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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day, now Here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>As we were wrapping up the three o'clock hour there

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<v Speaker 2>we were playing some Jeff Brohms sound as he was just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think, being very honest. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>everything he had said there was just the truth and

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I mean, I don't think anybody was detecting

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, but you know, him saying that he supports

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<v Speaker 2>his players, but obviously he didn't agree, wasn't happy with

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<v Speaker 2>the decision because Louis was a much better team when

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<v Speaker 2>they've got somebody like Colin Lacy out there, which all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff is true, but it's almost like when playing

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<v Speaker 2>that I was a pub was playing it from the

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<v Speaker 2>press conference video, like you could kind of see that

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<v Speaker 2>he was understanding, Yeah, this I don't like it, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>agree with it, but this is the way it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to support him and we'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>have him back. Some people have on the text line

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<v Speaker 2>acted like, you know, they think he's just saying that

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<v Speaker 2>to look like a guy who still is open to

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<v Speaker 2>nil and maybe he wouldn't want him back, And look,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. Maybe right. I don't know, but I did say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there are fans out there that I think

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<v Speaker 2>if Jeff said, the hell with him, he's gone kick Rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need him. He quit on his team. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there are fans that if he said that, they would

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<v Speaker 2>they would say, hell, yeah, Jeff, you tell him. And

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<v Speaker 2>a few of you chirped up and said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>wish he would say that, And like, I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>because Colin Lacey he quit. Like I can't say that

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<v Speaker 2>you're wrong. We can call it opting out, but like

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<v Speaker 2>it's quitting, and it's weird that he can quit. And

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<v Speaker 2>yet because of the players having all the control and

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<v Speaker 2>the power, like he could still potentially stick around, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he can leverage the situation, and he probably will.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we'll be successful. I don't know. Only time will tell.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I mean by he could leverage a situation

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<v Speaker 2>is that he knows Louisville was able to see when

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<v Speaker 2>healthy that he's a really good weapon to have on offense,

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<v Speaker 2>and with that they might need to come with a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more money for the next inile package. But

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<v Speaker 2>then again, you know, do you tell them, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not paying you the whatever you were owed because

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<v Speaker 2>you stopped playing, but we'll work on a package for

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<v Speaker 2>next year. Like, if that's the case, one, do you

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<v Speaker 2>even have the ability to do that, because as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't technically pay for play. You weren't paying Colin

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<v Speaker 2>Lacy to play here, you were just paying him to exist.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean quite literally, that's what the NIL contracts are,

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<v Speaker 2>Marketing appearances, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a tricky situation. That's why I tried to

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<v Speaker 2>set it up and make it clear that I think

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<v Speaker 2>you could have completely different reactions on this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>him opting out, quitting and yet still potentially coming back

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<v Speaker 2>next year. You could have completely different reactions and opinions

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<v Speaker 2>on it, and I can understand both sides totally, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's just, you know, it's a new world. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if there was strictly a salary cap, everything would be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot easier for coaches and everybody involved. Meaning if

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<v Speaker 2>everybody had a max where yeah, you've got the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two million that each athletic department is allowed to pay

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<v Speaker 2>out annually to their student athletes, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a maximum on what you're allowed to do with nil

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<v Speaker 2>that would that would make it to where, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the top tier you have even you

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<v Speaker 2>have an even playing field. Right, It's just the kid's

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<v Speaker 2>got the same money. He's just going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>decide where he wants to go for football reasons, right,

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<v Speaker 2>or for where he wants to live. That kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Money wouldn't be if you've got a really good player.

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<v Speaker 2>Money wouldn't be the ultimate kicker, because it'd be the

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<v Speaker 2>same for the really good players. Now, sure there'd be

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<v Speaker 2>some players that don't get the maximumount that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just thinking out loud here, like what is

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<v Speaker 2>the formula that you could put in place here where

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<v Speaker 2>this is regulated? And it's clearly a part of college

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<v Speaker 2>sports moving forward where you know guys are getting paid,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, it's not such a free for all. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the wild wild West as they say. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there are some out there that have a plan

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<v Speaker 2>that would certainly work a lot better than what we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing right now. But we ain't there yet, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know when we're going to be. Because again, next year,

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<v Speaker 2>when you can start to pay athletes, yes, that does

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<v Speaker 2>provide some guardrails because you know, the teams that want

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<v Speaker 2>to compete at a high level, they're all going to

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<v Speaker 2>be maxed out and it's going to be split up.

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<v Speaker 2>And that seems okay, yeah, that makes sense, But no,

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<v Speaker 2>nil is still going to be something that is utilized

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<v Speaker 2>to be the you know, the kicker, the cherry on top,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, when it comes to really having leverage

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<v Speaker 2>over a different program. And look, the rich I've just

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<v Speaker 2>gotten richer for the most part, because the schools that

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<v Speaker 2>have the best facilities, that have the best tradition, that

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<v Speaker 2>have the best resources, that play on national TV, that

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<v Speaker 2>have won national championships, that have put guys in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA, those programs are still I mean, those

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<v Speaker 2>programs had had benefits then that the habit that the

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<v Speaker 2>have nots don't didn't have And it's still the same.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I do think at times we we

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<v Speaker 2>act as if this has changed the product that we

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<v Speaker 2>love a lot more than it actually has. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>easy to say that until it's your team that has

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<v Speaker 2>been impacted by it. In Louisville, I mean, let's make

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<v Speaker 2>no mistake about it, Colin Lacey was playing his best

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<v Speaker 2>football and he just decided, well, I'm out, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and Company. We are feel about Thornton's here

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<v Speaker 2>in into Thornton's. I mean, and I oftentimes encourage you

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<v Speaker 2>guys to become Refreshment Awards members. And if you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done it by now, I guess you're not going to,

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<v Speaker 2>but just you know, there is still an option to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. But I'm telling you to stop in at

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<v Speaker 2>Thornton's not just because you'll save money on fuel when

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<v Speaker 2>you get when you hit the gas pump as a

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<v Speaker 2>member of the Refreshment Awards program, but you're also gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be able to take advantage of all the great food

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<v Speaker 2>items they have. They've unveiled some really cool food items

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<v Speaker 2>over the years. You guys have heard me talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the pizza Wedge. It was like a Pizza Quesadia, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not around anymore. Maybe they bring it back one day.

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<v Speaker 2>Just for me. That'd be great because it was delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now, they've got tiketos that are to die for,

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<v Speaker 2>spicy beef and chicken. They've got cheese. You could get

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<v Speaker 2>three of them for three bucks. That's a cheap and

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<v Speaker 2>nutritious lunch. I mean, I can't speak to the how

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<v Speaker 2>healthy it is, but like you know, three tiketos, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll fill me up. I don't know about you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's just enough for me. So again, that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the many delicious items they have when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to food, breakfast, lunch, even a late I mean doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>sound like a dinner, But I mean if you needed

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<v Speaker 2>to get dinner there because you're in a rush and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have a lot of time, you could do it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could do it deliciously. Is that a word deliciously?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it is. I think a word I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Sometimes I just get to yap and I think, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have made up a few words there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see if they stick. Anyways. Point of the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing is that we're fueled by Thornton's. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>you knew that, but I wanted to tell you once more. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>last night Louisville in action against Spaulding, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the postgame show and you listen to the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of this show, I really don't have much to

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<v Speaker 2>add other than what was said last night. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel any different about this team today as I did

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<v Speaker 2>last Tuesday, as I did before they played their first

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<v Speaker 2>exhibition game against Young Harris. And it's not because I've

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<v Speaker 2>been further, you know, encouraged to be super optimistic and

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<v Speaker 2>expect this team to be a tournament caliber team. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just that I know that any any real learning point

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<v Speaker 2>or takeaway for me personally would just be a reach.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I mean by that is, I mean I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still encouraged by this team. They didn't do anything to

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<v Speaker 2>make me worried, but like if they did do something,

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<v Speaker 2>if there was a specific stat which there is, free

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<v Speaker 2>throws and that is something you got. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this on the post game show. Missing free

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<v Speaker 2>throws like they did last night, that's not really free throws.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't one of those things you can just chalk it

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<v Speaker 2>up to, well, what are you gonna do? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's Spaulding I mean, the arena is not even

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<v Speaker 2>halfway full, and uh, you know, maybe they weren't focused,

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<v Speaker 2>like and I guess maybe there's some truth to that,

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<v Speaker 2>But like I feel like, if you step to the

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<v Speaker 2>free throw line, it really doesn't matter if it's an

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<v Speaker 2>exhibition or who the opponent is. It's a free throw.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a it's a routine thing that you do,

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<v Speaker 2>and you may not be great at it, but like

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<v Speaker 2>you your your routine, your form, that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>your process when you step to the stripe, like it

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<v Speaker 2>should always be the same. It would be very unusual

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<v Speaker 2>and weird if it wasn't like, hey, here's my here's

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<v Speaker 2>my exhibition free throw form, Like here's how I here's

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<v Speaker 2>how I get in to shoot a free throw when

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<v Speaker 2>we're playing exhibit, Like it doesn't make any sense. So

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<v Speaker 2>that is something that you know, clearly they got to

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<v Speaker 2>be better at that when they play real teams, because

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<v Speaker 2>that is something that can beat you going twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>or thirty fourth the line. But other than that, like

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<v Speaker 2>let's say they didn't shoot the ball so well in

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<v Speaker 2>their first exhibition game, and last night they didn't make

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four of them, but they made eight of twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>That's thirty five percent. That's still a team percentage better

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<v Speaker 2>than most. And clearly you could tell they weren't trying

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<v Speaker 2>to run things to get a bunch of threes in

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<v Speaker 2>this game. So even if there was a stat that

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<v Speaker 2>was alarming for exhibition games, I wouldn't say that you

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<v Speaker 2>should ignore it. But I'm also not going to act like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go, we're doomed. Or if there's something that

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<v Speaker 2>was like overly impressive, like let's say, instead of making

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four threes last night like you did the first game,

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<v Speaker 2>you made thirty four threes, I mean, insanely unrealistic. But

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<v Speaker 2>I would also have to just, you know, remind myself

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly that this is an exhibition game and rarely

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember any of the act will play in

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<v Speaker 2>these games. So Jerry, one of our callers yesterday, called

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<v Speaker 2>in and I kind of disagreed with him. Initially, we

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<v Speaker 2>he's somebody who just likes to suck the fun out

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<v Speaker 2>of parties. But like I get it, Like it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of diff feel like a waste of time last night

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<v Speaker 2>for me, you know, not to say that, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>angry that my time was spent watching this team play,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I guess from my perspective, like I get

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<v Speaker 2>why it would be viewed that way in the eyes

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<v Speaker 2>of some because you know, it's falding and I doubt

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<v Speaker 2>we ever get rid of these exhibition games. Somebody asked

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<v Speaker 2>me that on the text line earlier. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>we ever just stop having these games? Because it does

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's I mean, I'm sure we're a little

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<v Speaker 2>sensitive to the attendance thing because for recent years, Louislle

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<v Speaker 2>basketball has been attended in a way we never really

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<v Speaker 2>thought we'd ever see. But again, we'll never know because

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<v Speaker 2>we can't go back and change things. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>you could be in a much different situation, meaning you

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<v Speaker 2>could be coming off of two years that weren't nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as bad as the last two years were for Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>and I still think you would have had a very

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<v Speaker 2>very light crowd for that game last night. Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that's anything to do really with where the

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<v Speaker 2>program has been lately. We're going to learn pretty quickly

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<v Speaker 2>how much fans are willing to buy tickets and go

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<v Speaker 2>to a game because the Tennessee game. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>sets up perfectly. It's a game against the top fifteen team,

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey's first regular season game. U of L is

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<v Speaker 2>marketing as marketing it as a wide out, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no football game, like I mean, it's it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to maybe I'm way off here because I

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<v Speaker 2>think you could get eighteen thousand plus there I do,

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe I'm way off, like maybe we get fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and and by the way, if you get fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and they're allowed, it's going to be a great atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a part of me that wants to very

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<v Speaker 2>early on in the season kind of shove people up

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<v Speaker 2>about like Louisville never being able to get a big

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<v Speaker 2>crowd for a basketball game again. And that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's nonsense for people to say. But maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be proven to be more correct than me. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know what tickets look like for

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<v Speaker 2>that game, but if the Louisville fan base is consistent,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll prove that they are willing to pay at ten,

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<v Speaker 2>get loud, get rowdy for a big event, meaning a

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<v Speaker 2>big game like Louisville Miami was sold out. The team

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<v Speaker 2>was coming off of you know, two out of three losses.

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<v Speaker 2>Miami's really good and that matters that. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason it was a big game. Miami was the

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<v Speaker 2>it was noon, so like Louisill sold it out. Crowd

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<v Speaker 2>was great. That that was you know, not that I

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<v Speaker 2>needed that, but that was encouraging for me to see,

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<v Speaker 2>just because you know, it'll be a surprise to me

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<v Speaker 2>if there is a really light attended game when you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a big game and the team is at least decent.

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<v Speaker 2>But this would be the first because Louisville, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>when was the last time they had a huge crowdut

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<v Speaker 2>a basketball game. It would have to be, gosh, it

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<v Speaker 2>would have to be the the Michigan game maybe, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>In that year they had a bunch of big games,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning when they played the number one Michigan's number one

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<v Speaker 2>in the country, Louislle knocked him off. Or maybe was

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<v Speaker 2>it the other way around. Louisville was number one in

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<v Speaker 2>the country, I think defending the number one spot against

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan who had just won the Battle for Atlantis, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was sold out, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>close to it. And then the rest of the year

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<v Speaker 2>they had some other big games that had big crowds.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next year, obviously you couldn't have big

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<v Speaker 2>crowds because of COVID. The year after that they started

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<v Speaker 2>off really rough and the crowd really never showed up

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that you would have expected, and they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been back since. I mean, they had a big

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<v Speaker 2>crowd on hand for the let's see, they had a

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<v Speaker 2>big crowd on hand for Russ's retirement number of retirement

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<v Speaker 2>and that was gosh, that was max last home game,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, so, I guess you know that would be because

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<v Speaker 2>that season would be the year where Mac left. Even

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<v Speaker 2>though Louis wouldn't great, there still were some games where

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<v Speaker 2>you had big opponents and you did big things like

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<v Speaker 2>retiring Russ's number to where you could get a big crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, that's that's who we are as a fan base.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying you got to like it or

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<v Speaker 2>accept it. It's just reality. If the opponents not really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting or good or expected to be much of a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, challenge, like a Spaulding or a young Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that is going to matter more than

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<v Speaker 2>anything as far as people spending their hard earn money

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<v Speaker 2>to go to games. And I look, I agree it

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<v Speaker 2>would be best for Louisville to have games with highly

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<v Speaker 2>attempt mean, you want sellouts every game, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not realistic. But I do think the conversation for me

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<v Speaker 2>at least will shift if we get to some of

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<v Speaker 2>these big games like Tennessee, Ole Miss. When you come

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<v Speaker 2>back from from the Bahamas, you got to play Ole

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<v Speaker 2>Miss in the sec ACC Challenge. You'll host Duke on

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<v Speaker 2>what is it December something, and then you have Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>I think is head at home?

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<v Speaker 3>That's New Year's Day?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, So like if Louisville looks like they're I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, it doesn't even matter. Like let's say Louel

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<v Speaker 2>does have a few losses at that time, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that would be you know, it's not the results you want,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're also playing really good teams. Like if you

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<v Speaker 2>get those big matchups and the crowds are super light,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's where I would really start to worry and

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<v Speaker 2>get sad. But I'm not there yet. And yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>know last night was not a highly attended game, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's awesome that the fans went, meaning the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that did go, I think it's great and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope they had a good time. But like anybody that

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<v Speaker 2>decided not to go, I just I can't with a

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<v Speaker 2>straight face like come on, where were you guys? Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>we go to support this team, like okay, well it's

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<v Speaker 2>their money to spend, and they may I'll be in it,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe they're saving their money because the Tennessee ticket's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be way more expensive. And as we discussed last night,

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<v Speaker 2>I know there are cheaper ways to get tickets spend on.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows that. And if you are somebody that just, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't usually buy tickets, hmm, what am I gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll go to go karts dot com. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>click tickets, then I'll click single game tickets, then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>click Spaulding, then I'll click two tickets. I'm gonna select

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<v Speaker 2>the upper level because I don't have a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go check out. You're you're spending one hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 2>before you leave to go, Like, that's not like you

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<v Speaker 2>can do that if you're U of L and your

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<v Speaker 2>ticket master, and clearly that's the financial decision they made,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just think it's it's it's really insane to

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<v Speaker 2>have that be the price point, especially from the direct

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<v Speaker 2>host meaning U of L. Like, you go to their website,

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<v Speaker 2>you click buy tickets, it takes you to their ticket

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<v Speaker 2>Master website and you check out, and you're one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>bucks in the hole just to buy the tickets. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not parking, that's not if you want to get a drink,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get food, Like, that's not a cheap

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<v Speaker 2>evening for most people this day and age. So if

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<v Speaker 2>they decided not to do it, like to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, where were you at? Like, I just think

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<v Speaker 2>that's lame. But they also doesn't mean that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that attendance is important because it is all right,

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<v Speaker 2>well we'll take a quick time out coming up here

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<v Speaker 2>just a moment. But I want to let you hear

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<v Speaker 2>this because Ron English, I saw the quote yesterday and

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<v Speaker 2>it really kind of it would be an exaggeration to

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<v Speaker 2>say that it floored me, but like it kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know? The defense has not been good this

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<v Speaker 2>year at times, and they've been a mess as far

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<v Speaker 2>as communication. They sub too much at times. There'll be

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<v Speaker 2>no difference in what the offense is doing, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>they'll run a new group out there. I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>weeks three was at three straight games where it was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty common to see two more guys on the field

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes than you're supposed to have, Like they're a mess,

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<v Speaker 2>guys running wide open. Like sometimes that happens, but like

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<v Speaker 2>it's happened too much for people to just assume, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you going to do? This defense doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>good players. So Ron english has I think been deserving

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of criticism, and he showed us during

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<v Speaker 2>the off season that he's willing to take the criticism.

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of fell on the sword, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the defense falling apart last year well,

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<v Speaker 2>when asked sort of about the and this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of those questions where the MIC's not on the person

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<v Speaker 2>asking it, so you can't really hear exactly what was asked.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think that matters a lot in this

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<v Speaker 2>answer that we're about to get. But let's I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe we can't hear it, but the person's

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<v Speaker 2>off Mike. But Ron english Man he sent it a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot like Kenny Payne with his answer, Oh yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what it was. It was about why they need

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<v Speaker 2>to why they need to make the scheme more simple,

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<v Speaker 2>And here it was his answer.

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<v Speaker 4>This has happened to us before. So we have a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of veteran guys that we thought would have a

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<v Speaker 4>little higher aptitude than they've had, and so we have

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<v Speaker 4>had to be less ambitious in what we are asking

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<v Speaker 4>them to do. And sometimes that can show up in

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<v Speaker 4>practice where they can execute all those calls, but.

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<v Speaker 3>In the heat of battle is something different.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, there's a chance he's just giving you

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<v Speaker 2>the God's honest truth. But I mean, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>could be someone like myself who doesn't really know a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot about the x's and o's of football. I

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<v Speaker 2>know enough, I know what I'm seeing. You can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>me a team's great when I've watched them all year,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I know that they're not. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't act like I'm a dumb ass, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be equipped to help ron English get things

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<v Speaker 2>figured out. But I also feel like again, others like

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<v Speaker 2>myself who know enough to be dangerous but would clearly

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<v Speaker 2>admit to not be an expert. I can tell by

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<v Speaker 2>watching that they're doing too much out there, so like complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you if it's complicated because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a I don't have an ability to know what

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<v Speaker 2>would be viewed as super complicated and what would be

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<v Speaker 2>viewed as super ski super simple as far as game plan.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can tell you by the body language of

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<v Speaker 2>the players all year and just by some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things you see out there that like, whatever you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not simple. It is very complicated. And Jeff Brahm

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<v Speaker 2>has mentioned that, like he's said, like it's too complicated,

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<v Speaker 2>like we need, you know, we need to simplify some things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't get the sense that when that was

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<v Speaker 2>said from Jeff that it was because the guys aren't

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<v Speaker 2>smart enough to figure it out. And he didn't use

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<v Speaker 2>those words. He used his words correctly. And look, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Ron English is just being honest, But to say that

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<v Speaker 2>we thought we would have betteran guys that would have

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<v Speaker 2>a little higher aptitude than they've had, and with that

416
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<v Speaker 2>we have to be less ambitious in what we're asking

417
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<v Speaker 2>them to do. I don't really think he's earned the

418
00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:40.960
<v Speaker 2>benefit of the doubt at this point, given the results

419
00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:44.599
<v Speaker 2>for him to be able to in other words, tell us,

420
00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:48.000
<v Speaker 2>these guys aren't smart enough to grasp mentally what I

421
00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:50.359
<v Speaker 2>want to do defensively. So I really got a dumb

422
00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:52.319
<v Speaker 2>it down for him. I mean, like, that's essentially what

423
00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:55.759
<v Speaker 2>he said, and he's blaming the players instead of taking accountability.

424
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<v Speaker 2>And I hate to hear that because the defense is

425
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<v Speaker 2>coming off of the best spinish they've had all year.

426
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<v Speaker 2>And I know it's Boston College, but they have some

427
00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.400
<v Speaker 2>momentum right now. I hope that they can really carry

428
00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:08.680
<v Speaker 2>with them. And if it is simple and that's what

429
00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:12.400
<v Speaker 2>made it work against BC, then hell yeah. But that

430
00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:14.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't sound like a guy who really thinks that his

431
00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:17.240
<v Speaker 2>plan and his ex you know, in his strategy, his

432
00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:20.799
<v Speaker 2>scheme is the problem. It's that the guys they don't

433
00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:24.440
<v Speaker 2>have the they don't have the level of aptitude that

434
00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:28.279
<v Speaker 2>they expected. I mean, that's just I don't know. Maybe

435
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<v Speaker 2>he's right, but like I wouldn't have said that even

436
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<v Speaker 2>if I believe that, I wouldn't have said it given

437
00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:34.519
<v Speaker 2>the situation that we have here. Quick break, we'll come

438
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<v Speaker 2>back on the other side. Keeould rolling along. It's coffee

439
00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:38.519
<v Speaker 2>and company. Feel boy Thorntons right here on Sports Talk

440
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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety you didn't know it, John, But I love

441
00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:45.920
<v Speaker 2>that song. Oh yeah, that song is such a vibe.

442
00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:49.519
<v Speaker 2>There's all kinds of different versions of it too, you know,

443
00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:51.200
<v Speaker 2>like different DJs that I guess.

444
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<v Speaker 3>Do you know the voice the show singer and the

445
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<v Speaker 3>singer in the song.

446
00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:56.680
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know who it is.

447
00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.960
<v Speaker 3>It's John Newman, Okay. The DJ is Calvin Harris.

448
00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's I knew there was a recognizable component here.

449
00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:04.880
<v Speaker 2>And Calvin Harris is that I mean he is he

450
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.799
<v Speaker 2>still around? Like I'm sure he's not dead, but like

451
00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Calvin Harris like someone I don't know a whole lot about,

452
00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:13.839
<v Speaker 2>can't really tell you much about him at all, But

453
00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:15.839
<v Speaker 2>I feel like anytime I've heard something and asked like

454
00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:19.960
<v Speaker 2>who is this, if he's involved, it's usually pretty good. Yeah,

455
00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:23.079
<v Speaker 2>my vibe so good stuff. There also big thanks to

456
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<v Speaker 2>make sure I get this correct. I want to get

457
00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to cite my source here because a cardinal

458
00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:32.240
<v Speaker 2>companion on Twitter sent me a message and I thought

459
00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:34.720
<v Speaker 2>it's worth mentioning. He mentions that, you know, free throws

460
00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.680
<v Speaker 2>were concerned last night for the team. However, he goes

461
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<v Speaker 2>on to see to highlight that a lot of the

462
00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:47.680
<v Speaker 2>guys you know that shot free throws poorly last night.

463
00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:49.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, typically don't shoot that poorly, and honestly, some

464
00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:51.519
<v Speaker 2>of them don't go to the free throw on a

465
00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:54.880
<v Speaker 2>whole lot. So the numbers from last night, I mean,

466
00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:59.079
<v Speaker 2>they are what they are, but I doubt that you'll

467
00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:01.799
<v Speaker 2>see well, I hope you won't see many games where

468
00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>you end up with that. I mean, of of the

469
00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.759
<v Speaker 2>two exhibition games, when you just think at numbers that

470
00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:12.960
<v Speaker 2>stand out from either a positive way or I suppose

471
00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:17.039
<v Speaker 2>a negative way. The positive is that from three point range,

472
00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you made thirty two threes in two exhibition games,

473
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:25.799
<v Speaker 2>which I mean that's that's a lot. That's sixteen per

474
00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:27.440
<v Speaker 2>right now, I don't know if you're going to be

475
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:28.839
<v Speaker 2>able to do that night in a night out. There

476
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:30.920
<v Speaker 2>are going to be some teams that, you know, make

477
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:32.839
<v Speaker 2>sure that rain Smith doesn't get a shot off that

478
00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:36.160
<v Speaker 2>make sure that they you know, make sure they're they're

479
00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:40.279
<v Speaker 2>well aware that when you've got a big like Noah

480
00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Waterman who's stretching the floor and stepping outside like you

481
00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:44.880
<v Speaker 2>know that is a guy that will comfortably take a

482
00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:47.240
<v Speaker 2>shot and drain it. So you know you're gonna have

483
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:48.839
<v Speaker 2>some teams that defend you a lot better where you're

484
00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:50.680
<v Speaker 2>not gonna get the looks that you got again hung Harris.

485
00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:53.680
<v Speaker 2>But this team, they were built to shoot threes. And

486
00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I've seen nothing at this point that that that tells

487
00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:58.400
<v Speaker 2>you that you're you know, you have a team that

488
00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:02.200
<v Speaker 2>can't really fill it up on any given night. Now

489
00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.519
<v Speaker 2>you're good when you are this dependent upon the three

490
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.640
<v Speaker 2>point line, You're gonna have nights where it goes against you.

491
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:09.839
<v Speaker 2>And look, that's one thing that we haven't really talked

492
00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:11.480
<v Speaker 2>about it. We don't need to at this point, but

493
00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Louisville style of play does make them vulnerable if if

494
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:16.319
<v Speaker 2>they have a night off. Now I don't I don't

495
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.640
<v Speaker 2>buy into the whole Well, hey, that's what you get.

496
00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:20.359
<v Speaker 2>You live by the three, you die by the three,

497
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:23.480
<v Speaker 2>because that's a really silly I mean, like anything that

498
00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:28.240
<v Speaker 2>you really utilize because you know, it's a strength, you

499
00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:30.160
<v Speaker 2>know what you do, you live and die by it.

500
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.599
<v Speaker 2>That's just how it works. Like it's really I'm not

501
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>ready to put it up there as one of those

502
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:38.200
<v Speaker 2>sayings in sports that is very very common but really stupid,

503
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.200
<v Speaker 2>like well, hey, win's a win. I mean, like we

504
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.920
<v Speaker 2>went there, right, Win's a win. Like so live and

505
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.680
<v Speaker 2>die by it. It's kind of just as silly in

506
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.240
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, but again that's just my opinion. So yeah,

507
00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>your style of play is going to make you at times,

508
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, vulnerable to a law for a loss, maybe

509
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:58.359
<v Speaker 2>against a team that's not that good, if you just

510
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:02.200
<v Speaker 2>have that bad of a night shooting. However, the analytics

511
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>still tell you that, like, if you can play this

512
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>way effectively, you will win a lot more games than

513
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:09.759
<v Speaker 2>you will lose, and you could be really really good.

514
00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean Alabama. I mean, I'm not saying what was

515
00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:15.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna be Alabama and make a Final four, but if

516
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 2>there's one and Pat Kelsey has said this before, if

517
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:21.680
<v Speaker 2>there's one team that you know, he feels like and

518
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 2>he's not comparing his team saying they're as good, but

519
00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>he mentioned Alabama at one of his press conferences that

520
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:28.920
<v Speaker 2>he's had since getting hired, that that is a team

521
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.519
<v Speaker 2>that he thinks is probably the most And I'm paraphrasing here,

522
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:33.039
<v Speaker 2>so maybe I'm actually putting words in his mouth, but

523
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>he brought up Alabama when asked about, you know, style

524
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:39.000
<v Speaker 2>of play comparisons because natoates in Alabama made a Final

525
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:42.160
<v Speaker 2>four last year and last year they were not good defensively,

526
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and that got talked about a lot because they were

527
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:48.799
<v Speaker 2>really bad defensively. But Natoates's teams at Alabama and nearly

528
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.359
<v Speaker 2>every other year since he's been in Tuscaloosa played the

529
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>same style offensively and were good defensively. So that's what

530
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey wants to do. Obviously, they're you know, their

531
00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:01.599
<v Speaker 2>butter is going to be you know, well, what's the saying.

532
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:03.759
<v Speaker 2>The bread and butter is going to be offense more

533
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:05.359
<v Speaker 2>than defense, right, Like they're not going to be out

534
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>there just beating teams because they're that good defense. So

535
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:09.279
<v Speaker 2>they're going to score a lot of points. But the

536
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:11.480
<v Speaker 2>team is built to do that and to go back

537
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.559
<v Speaker 2>to kind of having to live on, you know, living

538
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:16.480
<v Speaker 2>about the three, dying by the three. If you're somebody

539
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:18.880
<v Speaker 2>that is worried about that, it could always still come

540
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 2>back and bite you in the ass. But when you've

541
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:24.440
<v Speaker 2>got this many guys that are all going to play

542
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:28.160
<v Speaker 2>that all but maybe two have the green light at

543
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:30.920
<v Speaker 2>any moment because being a really good shooter is I mean,

544
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 2>shooting is a part of their strength. Like that's that's

545
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.039
<v Speaker 2>what makes them be able to play at a program

546
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.039
<v Speaker 2>like Louisville, and that's what's helped them be able to

547
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 2>have successful college careers up to this point is because

548
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>that's a tool that they've got in the toolbox, right,

549
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:43.279
<v Speaker 2>That's a weapon they have is they are good shooters.

550
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:48.319
<v Speaker 2>So I would say right now, some guys have a

551
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.839
<v Speaker 2>different green light, if you will, like Rain Smith, if

552
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:55.119
<v Speaker 2>he if he's comfortable, he could fire it at any moment,

553
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:56.640
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think there's going to be anybody taking

554
00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>any issue with it. I think Corn Johnson's same thing,

555
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe even Edwards as long as you know he's set

556
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:05.640
<v Speaker 2>and then everybody else, it just depends. Like you know,

557
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 2>Hadley can knock it down. That's not his strength, but

558
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 2>he is a guy that can shoot trail ray shooting

559
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.359
<v Speaker 2>is not his strength. He will still take them within

560
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:17.160
<v Speaker 2>the flow of what they're doing offensively, but you know,

561
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:21.920
<v Speaker 2>that's just not his strength. Prior you know, I don't

562
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 2>think he has the best looking shot, but he's proven

563
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 2>that he can certainly stretch the floor and knock it down.

564
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I worry a little bit about him leaning into the

565
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>three point shot more so than he needs to, because

566
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 2>this is certainly an offense where you can find yourself

567
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:38.319
<v Speaker 2>open and you've got the green light to do it.

568
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 2>But he's also really good at driving, and he showed

569
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 2>that last night. I mean he only took three three pointers,

570
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 2>made all three of them. So in the game, the

571
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>game against Young Harris, he came out kind of firing.

572
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know, so again maybe frank anselom Ivy, he's

573
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 2>probably he only played eight minutes last night. He's not

574
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna play a whole lot of minutes. But the Noah Waterman,

575
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.319
<v Speaker 2>that's a guy that literally he's not fast. He always

576
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>falls down, but he's got good size. He can stretch

577
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 2>the floor and knock down three. So it'd be different

578
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.759
<v Speaker 2>if you only had, like if you're if your team

579
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 2>was not deep and you really lived and died by

580
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>the three, and you needed night in and night out

581
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 2>to have three guys collectively shoot a thirty six percent

582
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:20.880
<v Speaker 2>or more, like, if that was such a core thing,

583
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 2>then you know, then you might be in trouble. But

584
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>let's say that the team percentage night in and night out.

585
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:31.279
<v Speaker 2>You know that after playing twenty games, if you shoot

586
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>it better than this percentage, you're in good shape. What

587
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>makes Louisville, you know that percentage maybe thirty eight percent

588
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>forty percent, which is really good for most teams, and

589
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>it'd be undoable for a lot of teams. It is

590
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 2>a big risk because most teams can't night in and

591
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>night out shoot it at forty eclipped. However, when you've

592
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>got this many guys, let's say two of them are

593
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>having an off night, well, hey, that means you're gonna

594
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>play Coren Johnson in case in prior a lot more

595
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.119
<v Speaker 2>than you played Chucky Hepburn and Terrence Edwards or you know,

596
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Ah Waterman or whoever. Like, you can have some guys

597
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.200
<v Speaker 2>that have an off night and it's not a big

598
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>ask or a real surprise if the other guys come

599
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>in and they and they fill it up too. Now,

600
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>if everybody's off, that's gonna be a recipe that you know,

601
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 2>will likely lead to you losing to some teams, and

602
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>that can happen, but it'll be a rarity at least.

603
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I hope our Happy National Internet Day, everybody, how do

604
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>you celebrate john You've got any big plans?

605
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Big plans, man? I mean, I'm playing this music off

606
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 3>of YouTube, which is on the Internet. If that's a

607
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 3>good way to celebrate.

608
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm telling you, man, I don't. I don't remember

609
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 2>life pre Internet. I do, but before the Internet was

610
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.319
<v Speaker 2>a thing, I never needed it as a kid, and

611
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>you didn't know you needed it if you never had

612
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 2>it before, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, we

613
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 2>utilize Internet connectivity rather it be cell service, network service

614
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 2>or just you know, hardline internet, and then we're using

615
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Wi Fi from that, like it is such an everyday

616
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.359
<v Speaker 2>part of our lives that I mean, we clearly take

617
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>it for granted. And I say this all the time.

618
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how anybody did this, meaning whatever you

619
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 2>want to call this, I mean, it is my job.

620
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Some of you wouldn't call it a job, but you know,

621
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.480
<v Speaker 2>believe it or not, they do pay me. I don't

622
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<v Speaker 2>know how anybody did this before the Internet, Like I

623
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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Like in a way I tell myself, you

624
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<v Speaker 2>could have really kind of gotten more create, like you

625
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<v Speaker 2>could have got lost and really created from a blank

626
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.319
<v Speaker 2>canvas if you will not to get artsy fartsy here

627
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 2>and act like this is anything other than what it is.

628
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>But you know, like the Internet provides, it's your fingertips

629
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<v Speaker 2>at any moment, an endless ability to get information or

630
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<v Speaker 2>find creative ideas or steal something somebody else is doing. Like,

631
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 2>there's all kinds of ways to figure out what you

632
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>want to do within your radio show or your podcast,

633
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>whatever it may be, because you can utilize the Internet.

634
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>It's just part of it. Back back in the day

635
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>before the Internet, did you read newspapers?

636
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I bet a lot of people if they

637
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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what to talk about, would refa into the newspaper.

638
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh, if Dave Jennings had to fill in today on

639
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 2>this show, he would come in here with the Courier

640
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 2>General sports section. Not kidding because you know he was

641
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 2>he was built different. He came up whenever he couldn't

642
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 2>rely on the Internet to do it. And I'm not

643
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>saying that to insult day, but like that was just

644
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>his routine. Like he would know where he was going

645
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:21.519
<v Speaker 2>to go. But like he didn't get his reps doing

646
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>live sports talk radio utilizing the internet. He did it

647
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>without the Internet for the majority of the time. And

648
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>I want to make him sound like a donis form mean,

649
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the Internet did exists, let's be real. But like even

650
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>before social media platforms and YouTube and whatnot, Like you know,

651
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>if you just go into websites and that's that's still

652
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>different than you know, going directly from a newspaper. But

653
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<v Speaker 2>I am very appreciati of the Internet. I don't know

654
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 2>what we would do without it.

655
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, the reason of today being National Internet Day

656
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 3>because it was launched on October twenty ninth of whatever year.

657
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Here's what it says. National Internet Day is October twenty ninth,

658
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 2>and it's a look back at you. Let's see.

659
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Now you got to be curious here, because to send

660
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:01.200
<v Speaker 3>you down a round.

661
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what would make this day National Internet Day,

662
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.559
<v Speaker 2>but now I got to look it up. It does

663
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>say that, let's see, let's just this is a better,

664
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.839
<v Speaker 2>better thing to look up. When did When was the

665
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Internet invented? So the Internet's official birthdate is January first,

666
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three. But that's not you know, that's not

667
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>that's not right.

668
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 3>In the older days of radio, we couldn't just look

669
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:26.000
<v Speaker 3>that up.

670
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Do you remember your first experience

671
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 2>on the internet.

672
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So my family had dial up, a course, they

673
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 3>did whenever I was a kid, and if everybody did

674
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 3>play a computer game or something, and sometimes games didn't

675
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.400
<v Speaker 3>require you to have internet, but if it did for

676
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 3>whatever reason you would hear that little, you know, ringing

677
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 3>and those very obnoxious noises that the computers would make

678
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 3>as it was trying to connect to the Internet, and

679
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 3>it took forever. That was really the adjust of my old,

680
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:52.599
<v Speaker 3>my original Internet experience.

681
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was Internet, but you were relying on

682
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 2>your phone connection service to to be on the World

683
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Wide Web. And that's that's a rare thing that we

684
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>we look back on and our first memories of it

685
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>are the same because we.

686
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Were there from the beginning of it. Yeah, if I

687
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:09.720
<v Speaker 3>was a lot.

688
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Younger, yeah, but you know when you and I would

689
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.039
<v Speaker 2>say I probably got online a little earlier and got

690
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>acclimated with the Internet, probably before a lot of people

691
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 2>my age. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong with that

692
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 2>because I was never like a video game guy, so

693
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I was super fascinated in every aspect by the Internet.

694
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Like I would just go to Ashjeeves dot com. I'm

695
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 2>not sure if you even remember that.

696
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 3>I know it's a search engine, right, Yeah, it was

697
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:32.119
<v Speaker 3>a search it was.

698
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 2>It might not have been the first, but it was.

699
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 2>It was the search engine I knew of and like

700
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.759
<v Speaker 2>I would just like athletes that I was big fan,

701
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.359
<v Speaker 2>like I would Google like any or again, now I've

702
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.599
<v Speaker 2>gone to just goog. I say Google because Google means search,

703
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>but it didn't used to be that. It was ask

704
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>jeeves dot com and it was the first search engine

705
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 2>that I ever used. And I remember like just looking

706
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 2>up stuff all the time, like and of course the

707
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 2>early days of like interacting on the Internet was all

708
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>AOL and stemes like that's how a lot of I mean,

709
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't say a lot of Maybe it was different

710
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 2>for different people where they grew up, considering their situation.

711
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 2>But I can just speak to people in my age

712
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.480
<v Speaker 2>range that are, you know, a little bit younger than me,

713
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 2>a little bit older than me, Like we mostly communicated

714
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.039
<v Speaker 2>through AOL and Steam Messenger. We didn't have cell phones

715
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 2>that were texting just yet. And by the time you

716
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 2>know that that became a thing, I think the Internet,

717
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:25.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, as far as AOL and stea messenger like

718
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>that kind of had had faded a little bit.

719
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 3>But were you a big MySpace guy?

720
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But see that's that's the age gap there. Like

721
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 2>my Space was way after I started getting on the internet,

722
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. For you, it was probably

723
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:41.199
<v Speaker 2>right around that time. But dial up was still a

724
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>thing probably back then, like I don't really like dialug

725
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 2>was around for a long time and we just accepted

726
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 2>that that's how it. That's how it like, because the

727
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Internet wasn't like there was no way like going and

728
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.639
<v Speaker 2>watching like a live video, like you knew going in

729
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to wait forever for it to buffer,

730
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>because that's just what it was. Yes, But then once

731
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 2>you got DSL. I remember DS that was a big upgrade,

732
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 2>like it was a new world. And of course now

733
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 2>you've got fiber for some people, and it's you know,

734
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 2>there's no delay, like if something takes like a millisecond

735
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>to load for me at home, I'm thinking something wrong

736
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:18.039
<v Speaker 2>like my WiFi down or something like that. So, yeah,

737
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the Internet's great. Don't know where life would be without it.

738
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's some people that think it ruined the world.

739
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, maybe maybe you're right. I have

740
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>no clue, but it's really all I know at this point.

741
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I remember I found Michael Jordan's I was at my

742
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 2>dad's work on his work computer. He was out, you know,

743
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:37.239
<v Speaker 2>doing work stuff, and I was on his work computer

744
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>in his office and I with ask Jeeves. I found

745
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan's like fan website and like you can you

746
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 2>can like you know, hit like contact us or something,

747
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and you can write messages. And I was I think

748
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 2>I sent him like fifty messages, thinking like Michael Jordan's

749
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 2>on another computer, probably in the locker room with the bulls,

750
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 2>and he's reading this. He hasn't wrote me back yet.

751
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:01.840
<v Speaker 2>He's probably getting ready for the game. Like that's that's

752
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that was the Internet. It was the first Internet Internet

753
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 2>memory for me.

754
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 3>Good stuff.

755
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, We'll come back on the other

756
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>side and wrap it up. Another good one. John, good stuff,

757
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 2>back to back. That's what he does. I mean, he's

758
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>he's there's the reason they pay him the big bucks.

759
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>It's the company man, DJ DJ John.

760
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I tell you in college, I was DJ Jazzy John.

761
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:29.159
<v Speaker 2>DJ Jazzy John. I mean it flows playoff of Jeff.

762
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>But if you told me that there was DJ Jazzy John,

763
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I would assume that it's somebody old enough to be

764
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 2>your grandpa, just because it's an old school name. But

765
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 2>you got an old soul about you, So maybe it

766
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 2>actually fits more so than you know, than than than

767
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>I realize. All right, So Cooper Flag, he has made

768
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 2>an I N I L history with a new Gatorade partnership.

769
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 2>So he's become the first male college basketball player to

770
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>sign with Gatorade. I don't know if we have any

771
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>any any number as far as how much he's going

772
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 2>to be paid for this. Obviously you would expect it

773
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 2>would be a lot of money. But the let's see here, Yeah,

774
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>the the others that have partnered with Gatorade in the

775
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 2>NIL era, at least as recently was Juju Watkins, the

776
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:20.119
<v Speaker 2>USC women's basketball player, Page Buckers who plays women's basketball

777
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 2>for Yukon, and then Shadoor Sanders of Colorado obviously Deon Sanderson.

778
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 2>So guy played a played a second yet and he's

779
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>already inking a deal with UH with the biggest you know.

780
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, at this point, there's no there's no way

781
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.519
<v Speaker 2>that there's a bigger drink brand out there than Gatorad.

782
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's the best, because clearly there are competitors,

783
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:44.280
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I don't know if this is a

784
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 2>sign that this guy is, you know, as legit as

785
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>they say. But if you think about it again, nobody's

786
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 2>really surprised because of the hype that's come with this guy,

787
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Cooper Flagg is believed to be a guy

788
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 2>that could be the best true freshman we've had in

789
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:05.559
<v Speaker 2>college basketball in a long time, maybe since Zion right,

790
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's why there's not a whole lot of surprise here.

791
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>But like what if you mean, what if he ended

792
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:14.280
<v Speaker 2>up getting an insane amount of money and it wouldn't

793
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:16.360
<v Speaker 2>be a big deal to a corporation like Gatoray. They

794
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>probably have had plenty of losses when it comes to

795
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:20.159
<v Speaker 2>what they spend on marketing that maybe they didn't end

796
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>up seeing a great return on that investment. But he's

797
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 2>never played a second, you know what I mean, Like,

798
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:29.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, there hasn't the freshman entering college not

799
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.039
<v Speaker 2>getting near the amount of money that transfers get is

800
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 2>the way that it should be. But that would be

801
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 2>the I mean, like again, imagine in the Nile world.

802
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Imagine if the Anile world existed with some of these

803
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 2>other recruiting busts and there wasn't the transfer portal. I mean,

804
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>imagine if Scalabasia the number one player in America that

805
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>went to Kentucky, they ended up being a pretty big bust.

806
00:38:57.719 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he ended up getting drafted in the first round,

807
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.000
<v Speaker 2>but he wasn't very good to Kentucky and he got

808
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 2>drafted based off the high school hype and then within

809
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>a few years was clearly out of the league. And

810
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he plays ball anywhere anymore. Like imagine

811
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>if somebody all right, we'll give you two million if

812
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:12.639
<v Speaker 2>you commit to Kentucky and like that's what you got,

813
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.199
<v Speaker 2>that'll make somebody never want to give to ANIL again. And

814
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that's happened to an extent. But that's why

815
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 2>for the sake of everybody involved, outside of those that

816
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>are giving money, it's best for everybody to not have

817
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.679
<v Speaker 2>the to not have the full transparency, if that makes sense,

818
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Because if you think about it, like if you're giving

819
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 2>an IL money and it's just to help the team

820
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 2>because it's you an individual, if you're giving ANIL money

821
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>because you own a corporation and you've got the money

822
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Speaker 2>to do it, you would be much more I guess

823
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you know aware of what kind of investment that was

824
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:50.360
<v Speaker 2>a good one a bad one if you knew exactly

825
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 2>where your dollars went. Now, with that said, there are

826
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>people who don't donate to ANIL because they want to

827
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>know exactly what their money's going towards, not only the program,

828
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 2>but like which player, and that'd be tough to I think,

829
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:03.599
<v Speaker 2>have full transparency on that. But I also get that

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<v Speaker 2>it's your money. If you're gonna spend that, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to know what it's going towards, right. I Mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate to call people suckers because I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 2>they are, but like, I get why there are some

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<v Speaker 2>people out there that say, man, college sports fans are

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<v Speaker 2>suckers because they're just giving money blindly to go get

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<v Speaker 2>players or transfers high school kids or kids that are

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<v Speaker 2>transferring to college, and that doesn't even get them anything,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they don't even know for sure if that money

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<v Speaker 2>is going there, that doesn't give them a season ticket,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't give them any kind of access, Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>just they're just giving their money away and hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>it all works out. It's really important, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>shaming anybody for doing it, but like, you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>else do you spend money on like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>Just take it, hope everything works out like it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like donating to the political committees and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, that's a good comparison. All right, quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but politics. John, just put the ball in motion.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking, we're talking election. Starting to Bob o'clock out

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<v Speaker 2>right here in Sports Talk seven ninety mm hm