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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, Johnny Mack with your daily

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<v Speaker 1>comedy news. It's a quiet one. It's a Saturday after

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<v Speaker 1>July fourth. I did do a new sweep on Friday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a little light. So think of today like

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<v Speaker 1>the day after Thanksgiving. Let me make you a turkey

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich and I'll heat up some mashed potatoes in the

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<v Speaker 1>microwave and tell you what I've got for you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you understand where I'm coming from here today? Yep. In Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>Max Tavern, the old city bar and restaurant known for

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<v Speaker 1>its ties to it's always sunny in Philadelphia, it is

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<v Speaker 1>closing down after fifteen years on Market Street. They posted

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram at the bar part owned by Rob Mack

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<v Speaker 1>and Caitlyn Olsen, it's closing. They thank supporters. They did

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<v Speaker 1>not give a reason for the closing. The bar. On

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<v Speaker 1>the Instagram post said when we open this bar, our

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<v Speaker 1>hope was to create a welcoming down to earthplace where

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<v Speaker 1>people could gather, share stories, laugh a little too loudly,

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy a drink or two among friends. What we

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<v Speaker 1>got was so much more loyal and loving community that

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<v Speaker 1>made Max Tavern feel like home. Not just to us

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<v Speaker 1>and the staff, but to everybody who walked through its doors.

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<v Speaker 1>Though Max Tavern may be closing, our gratitude to you

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<v Speaker 1>will remain open and overflowing forever. It's all kinds of interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the liquor license part, right, So what are they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do with that liquor license? Won't keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>on that one. Rob Mac making a lot of news lately,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it's always sunny in Philadelphia. Is coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me check the date for you, July ninth. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hear a lot from these guys this week

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<v Speaker 1>as they drum up attention for the new season. Not

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<v Speaker 1>sure closing a bar was the best way to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but and then again I'm talking about it. Good news

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<v Speaker 1>if you like Johnny Carson. They've unearthed fifty episodes that

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<v Speaker 1>Guests include loose Ball, Gilda Radner, Melbrooks, and Muhammad Alli.

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<v Speaker 1>Variety caught up with Seth Myers and said they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask him the lorn question because he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>sick of the lorn question. Seth said, I'm only not

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<v Speaker 1>sick of it because I find it incredibly flattering anytime

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<v Speaker 1>anyone asked me if I take over SNL, mostly because

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<v Speaker 1>my first five years on SNL, I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was falling into an elevator cheft. So it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>nice question for someone who really thought they were terrible

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<v Speaker 1>at the show. Well, Seth, do you really believe Lauren's

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<v Speaker 1>never going to retire? Seth said, I do. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>being glod with that answer. He just loves it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>If he had a hobby that was like, if I

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<v Speaker 1>can only get the show off my schedule, I'd start fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not Lauren. This is his first love, and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing keeps you more young than being surrounded by young people.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren is smart enough to know that. I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>Seth there. I strongly believe as you age, you need

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<v Speaker 1>something to do in your life. I enjoy being semi retired.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think i'd ever stop doing anything. I'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>host this podcast until I just physically can't. Won't that

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<v Speaker 1>be fun? Some ninety one year old guy ranting about

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<v Speaker 1>comedy in Adam Saylor Movies The Only Times asked Steph Toleev.

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<v Speaker 1>Does your comedy help open the door not just for

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<v Speaker 1>more great female comics, but comics who are female, who

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<v Speaker 1>were out there scaring the crap out of anyone and everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great question, Steph said. I think there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us. Maybe you haven't seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I don't know. If you know Jordan Jensen,

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<v Speaker 1>she's incredible. She's out there giving it to people too.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many. But I feel like there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>women like me, and they just don't have the platform

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<v Speaker 1>to openly talk about this kind of stuff. In my

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<v Speaker 1>meet and greet lines, it's all women being like, I

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<v Speaker 1>like these things. I want to say these things, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they've either lived a sheltered life and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel comfortable, or they're surrounding themselves with people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't like when people talk like that. Nothing I say

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<v Speaker 1>is like some weird, orpulsive thing. It's something gross we've

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<v Speaker 1>all done we've all had a bad sex story, we've

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<v Speaker 1>all embarrassed ourselves, we've all had really bad one night stands.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving a voice to not even just women, men

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<v Speaker 1>too maybe feel sheltered and feel like they can't be

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<v Speaker 1>their full self. The conversation switched to the LA comedy scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Toolov said, I think the LA scene right now

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. All the main clubs, the bookers are women,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very nice to see that because they're much

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<v Speaker 1>more inclusive with a lot more people in the lineups

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<v Speaker 1>are way more diverse. You're seeing a lot of new

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<v Speaker 1>people who kind of came out of nowhere that are

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<v Speaker 1>really funny. They've been doing comedy for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>but now getting the opportunity to be these bigger stages.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's because I'm on a higher level,

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<v Speaker 1>but the community feels much more inspiring and much more supportive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome to hear. I feel like when I first

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<v Speaker 1>moved here eleven years ago, i'd go to places like

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<v Speaker 1>the Comedy Store and I felt like people didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>me there. But now I feel like, even when newer

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<v Speaker 1>comics come, everyone is so much more supportive and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to meet people, and it just feels like a community.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when that happened, but it definitely feels

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<v Speaker 1>like that right now, which is awesome. I started out

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<v Speaker 1>here in the alt scene, which I think might be

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<v Speaker 1>in a bit of a down swing right now because

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<v Speaker 1>some of the bigger shows are not happening, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'll swing back again. They asked Steph about hosting

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<v Speaker 1>the Adult Video News Awards, the AVN Awards. I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself at the av AND Awards one night. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've told the story on the show. We had the

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<v Speaker 1>giggles because I don't expect you to know this, but

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<v Speaker 1>people who know porn movies know that sometimes they have

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<v Speaker 1>parodies based on real movies. I can't remember any actual titles,

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<v Speaker 1>and I won't make them up here, but we had

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<v Speaker 1>the giggles as they came out. And then also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the categories of best combination of us your imagination,

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<v Speaker 1>we just had just the big laugh. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>gave us a gift. And I got back to the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room and opened up the gift and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a glass thing several inches long. Here's your imagination, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what do I do with this? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not bringing this home. I'm not bringing this on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just left it in a hotel room and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the maid wonder what happened with that. Steph said,

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy was actually one of the writers. Every year

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<v Speaker 1>they asked a different comedian and they just put my

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<v Speaker 1>name for it, and that was it. I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say that was one of the coolest

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<v Speaker 1>experiences I've ever done in the porn industry. No matter

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<v Speaker 1>what you think about it, those people are so genuinely nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I will agree with that from my experience at the

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<v Speaker 1>av AND Awards, and they were so supportive, Like for

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<v Speaker 1>every award, people were getting up and clapping. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the girls I hosted with her parents were there, Like

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<v Speaker 1>these Midwestern parents were so happy their daughter was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're seeing stuff on screen, you're seeing the clips

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<v Speaker 1>that they're showing you what she's nominated for, You're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and they were like, ooh, great show, and what

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<v Speaker 1>a great award show. And I was like, what the heck.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really nice to see parents being supportive and

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<v Speaker 1>I got flashed a lot. Jeff Ross talked about out

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<v Speaker 1>working with Milton Burl. Burl passed away in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Frost hold at Howard Stern. Milton had giant hands,

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<v Speaker 1>and every time I got a laugh from behind the podium,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I kept going and I'm hitting pretty consistently

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<v Speaker 1>getting good laughs, and finally he's just interrupting me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>killing and he's interrupting me. Finally I go, Milton, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I see you in an antique shop this morning for

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred bucks. Milton gets up and starts doing a

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy Hackey yells out, hey, Milton, let the kid work,

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<v Speaker 1>remember when you used to. Milton runs down, kisses Buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Hacket on the lips. The place explodes, and I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is Milton and Buddy over eighty years of

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<v Speaker 1>homosexual experience, and the place goes wild, and I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I'd found my Yankee Stadium moment. I went back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Friar's Club afterward. I said to Buddy Hackett,

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<v Speaker 1>why would Milton do that? And he goes he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like when other people get a lot of laughs. He

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to trip you up. Ross decided to speak

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<v Speaker 1>to Milton himself and said, I went and had a

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<v Speaker 1>cigar with him, and I said, Milton, why would he

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<v Speaker 1>poke me like that? Milton said, remember they only remember

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<v Speaker 1>the home runs. It means I had too many jokes

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<v Speaker 1>and had to edit down just the home runs. And

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<v Speaker 1>even though he was trying to interrupt me and mess

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<v Speaker 1>me up a little bit, I was like, that's really

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<v Speaker 1>good advice. Milton and I went on to become very

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<v Speaker 1>good friends. I think he was testing me. Kathy Griffin.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Kathy, do I ever come on to hear

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<v Speaker 1>and tell you a story about Kathy Griffin that's like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy Griffin had an awesome day and impetted a pony

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<v Speaker 1>and said life is great. She's one of these comedians

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<v Speaker 1>that we talk about on the show that this just

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<v Speaker 1>always strife. Well, Kathy Griffin reveals why she turned down

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<v Speaker 1>hosting the View. She said, I'm gonna be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't enough to uproot her life to another coast, she said.

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<v Speaker 1>She told Barbara Walters, I'm gonna be honest. This is

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<v Speaker 1>how much money I made last year. I'll show you

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<v Speaker 1>my tax returns. I don't want you to think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>blowing smoke. But between moving costs and I'm so entwined

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<v Speaker 1>with my mom and dad, I have a house in

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<v Speaker 1>LA just isn't feasible for me to do. But I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to hear it directly from me, that all

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<v Speaker 1>sounds perfectly reasonable. Apparently Barbara Walters did not like that

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<v Speaker 1>one bit. She didn't care up their offered by a penny.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might have said something like can you

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<v Speaker 1>meet me halfway? And they didn't. But that's the real story,

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<v Speaker 1>that all seems fair. Joe Quasala is the writer and

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<v Speaker 1>star of a mockumentary called American Comic. It follows two

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<v Speaker 1>stand ups as they try to navigate the modern comedy world.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe said, every time he watches a movie or TV

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<v Speaker 1>show that incorporates stand up that doesn't look like a

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<v Speaker 1>comedy club, audiences in a room that size wouldn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like that that wouldn't get a laugh. So when Joe

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<v Speaker 1>made his own project, he said he tried to reverse

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<v Speaker 1>engineer it. By analyzing what doesn't work. It would hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>path to success. I thought about my main problems with

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<v Speaker 1>depictions of stand up comedy and landed on three areas,

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<v Speaker 1>of those doesn't come across correctly, it all goes south.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to nail all three. Among comedians, there

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<v Speaker 1>might be varying opinions on the ideal setting for a

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<v Speaker 1>stand up show, but most will agree that intimacy is key.

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<v Speaker 1>That means close quarters, low ceilings, the audience's proximity of

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<v Speaker 1>the stage and to each other. A lot of comedy

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<v Speaker 1>clubs are designed with these qualities in mind. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is your comedy news for two. I hope you're enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday weekend. It's very very nice weather here in

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<v Speaker 1>the Northeast, and hopefully everybody has an awesome three day weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got stuff for tomorrow and I'll see then.