Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. There's a lot going on on
Speaker 1: this Friday, on this fallback Friday.
Speaker 2: One thing that's not going on actually and is encouraging
Speaker 2: is the briefings have stopped. And when the briefings stop
Speaker 2: and related to the fire, you sense that there is
Speaker 2: at least for the moment, some control around this fire
Speaker 2: and the series of fires.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about the eight am briefing that we've
Speaker 1: had every single morning from La County Fire, cal Fire
Speaker 1: and all of the local officials. That didn't happen this morning.
Speaker 1: Good news, Palisades Fire up to thirty one percent containment,
Speaker 1: Eaten fire sixty five percent containment with no new growth.
Speaker 2: The follow up from yesterday on the fire we will
Speaker 2: have And one of the cool things that happened is
Speaker 2: when we got off the air yesterday, I got a
Speaker 2: call on the hotline from a retired LAFD guy who
Speaker 2: really laid out the super Scooper question of why.
Speaker 1: We don't actually buy one as opposed to lease.
Speaker 2: And what their actual value is in certain situations fighting
Speaker 2: a fire and what their actual value isn't in certain,
Speaker 2: So we're going to get into that. In fact, he's
Speaker 2: going to join us. That'll happen the next hour. But
Speaker 2: in any case, we will address a lot of the
Speaker 2: fire issues as the show goes on. But we can
Speaker 2: turn our attention a bit today to Washington. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot going on. Number one, you have
Speaker 1: probably heard it, but we're going to talk about it
Speaker 1: anyway because it's that important. The Supreme Court upholding that
Speaker 1: TikTok ban unless somebody buys it before Sunday, likely, I'm
Speaker 1: unlikely going to happen. President Biden already said he's not
Speaker 1: going to enforced it. This is his last day in office.
Speaker 1: Trump has said that he wants to put a stop
Speaker 1: to this, put a hold on it, and we're going
Speaker 1: to talk more about that.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the reality is, and I've said it before,
Speaker 2: I said it from the beginning, TikTok's going nowhere. What's happening.
Speaker 2: You're already seeing it, Biden saying, And we're not going
Speaker 2: to force it. Trump's administration well enforced either. They may
Speaker 2: transfer it over to one of these richie riches who
Speaker 2: is now around the Trump Orbit and in Washington, but
Speaker 2: we'll see you in any case. John Decker is in
Speaker 2: Washington to give us a sense of what's going on
Speaker 2: in Washington on this TikTok band and more.
Speaker 3: Hi, John, Hey, how.
Speaker 4: Are you doing? Both of you doing today?
Speaker 2: We are much better today. It's been an eventful week,
Speaker 2: as you're aware, Gil, I know, bring us up to
Speaker 2: speed on what your take is and what you're hearing
Speaker 2: it in Washington about TikTok and beyond.
Speaker 4: Well, I said in the more than two hours of
Speaker 4: oral arguments last Friday in the Supreme Court, and the
Speaker 4: decision by the Supreme Court, which is unanimous, does not
Speaker 4: surprise me at all. The Supreme Court ruling unanimously that
Speaker 4: this TikTok ban can essentially go into effect on Sunday.
Speaker 4: They bought into the argument put forward by the government
Speaker 4: by the Solicitor General of the national security concerns that TikTok,
Speaker 4: which was owned by a Chinese company by Dance, poses,
Speaker 4: and those national security concerns, as expressed by the Solicitor
Speaker 4: General are that China could potentially collect the data from
Speaker 4: the one hundred and seventy million Americans to use TikTok
Speaker 4: the Supreme Court rejecting the First Amendment arguments that were
Speaker 4: being made by the social media company.
Speaker 1: So what's next though, Because Sunday comes around, the band
Speaker 1: goes into effect. Biden says he's not going to enforce it.
Speaker 1: Trump the same thing.
Speaker 4: What does it all mean, Well, the duty of a
Speaker 4: president is to enforce our laws, and that is a
Speaker 4: constitutional mandate. The president and the president elect cannot simply
Speaker 4: use an executive order to do away with this law.
Speaker 4: It was signed by President Biden last April. If President Trump,
Speaker 4: once he's born in on Monday, wants to do something
Speaker 4: about this TikTok law, then his only source and solution
Speaker 4: to this is to go back to the one hundred
Speaker 4: nineteenth Congress, this Congress and say I want you to
Speaker 4: undo the law that you've passed overwhelmingly in the last Congress,
Speaker 4: and it passed in the Senate seventy nine to eighteen.
Speaker 4: So that's the option that's really on the table for
Speaker 4: President Trump once he's sworn into office. If he wants
Speaker 4: to keep TikTok as an app, an ongoing social media
Speaker 4: option for people who wish to use it.
Speaker 3: That's a big mountain to climb. I should mention.
Speaker 2: John Decker is the only lawyer who's in that White
Speaker 2: House press course, and we're talking with John now about
Speaker 2: the law. He knows it very very well, So John,
Speaker 2: I'm hearing. Yeah, but Biden's kind of saying not going
Speaker 2: to enforce it. Trump people, this again sort of just
Speaker 2: the buzz is, we won't enforce it either. It seems
Speaker 2: everybody wants it. There's a lot of popular support for it.
Speaker 2: What about that you pass a law and then there's
Speaker 2: sort of this memo of understanding that it's not going
Speaker 2: to be enforced.
Speaker 4: It's very strange. After all, President Biden last April signed
Speaker 4: this law. He was one of those advocates that said
Speaker 4: that TikTok is a national security concern to the US
Speaker 4: And after all of that a year later to say
Speaker 4: I'm not going to enforce it, it's very odd to me.
Speaker 4: You know, perhaps he just wants to essentially kick the
Speaker 4: ball down to the next administration and have them deal
Speaker 4: with this issue. But it passed overwhelmingly in the House,
Speaker 4: passed overwhelmingly in the Senate, signed by President Biden, and
Speaker 4: indeed it is a problem that Donald Trump will now
Speaker 4: have to take on. And a reminder with Donald Trump
Speaker 4: was president, he actually signed an executive order to ban
Speaker 4: TikTok in the US that was struck down by the
Speaker 4: federal courts. He's now had a change of heart as
Speaker 4: it relates to TikTok. In fact, the CEO of TikTok
Speaker 4: will be attending his auguration on Monday. So there are
Speaker 4: a lot of unknowns. But as the law stands and
Speaker 4: upheld by the Supreme Court, TikTok, unless it's sold by
Speaker 4: that Sunday deadline will not be available for download on
Speaker 4: any of the apps that you use to download these
Speaker 4: social media applications.
Speaker 1: We know that Congress, though the new Congress, of course
Speaker 1: as of Monday, will have a different makeup than the last.
Speaker 1: The Republican mandate is what I'm referring to. Thoughts on
Speaker 1: that as it.
Speaker 5: Relates to the vote, Well, that's right, but there's a
Speaker 5: lot of arms that you need to twist to reverse
Speaker 5: the decision made by the one hundred and eighteenth Congress.
Speaker 4: Seventy nine to eighteen was the vote in that last Congress,
Speaker 4: which means you had a significant number of Republicans joining
Speaker 4: with Democrats. And look, the dynamics are different now than
Speaker 4: they were in the last Congress. Perhaps with Republicans in
Speaker 4: control of both the House and the Senate, you get
Speaker 4: a different outcome to try to reverse this law that
Speaker 4: passed last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as you say, boy that those numbers are
Speaker 2: pretty damning, I don't know that you can you can
Speaker 2: reverse that. But nonetheless, I mean, obviously it seems as
Speaker 2: though the incoming administration is on the page that the
Speaker 2: public is on, which is in general wanting TikTok to
Speaker 2: to continue. So, uh, this is a, I guess, a
Speaker 2: developing story. But thanks John Decker, and appreciate very much
Speaker 2: your legal perspective as well.
Speaker 4: Thanks Mark, Thanks marlay.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Washington is rocking and rolling. This isn't you know? This
Speaker 2: is a substantial, substantial development.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's freezing as well. And there are yeah,
Speaker 1: reports now that the inauguration is going to be moved
Speaker 1: indoors because of the freezing temps expected one of the
Speaker 1: coldest on record come Monday. So we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. I told you I grew up in Washington,
Speaker 3: d C.
Speaker 2: So I know a lot of people who are in
Speaker 2: government and at very high levels. Actually, I mean I was,
Speaker 2: you know, I was a kid I was just but
Speaker 2: I would the kids I was going to school with,
Speaker 2: like there, you know, dad was vice president and the
Speaker 2: other dad was Secretary of Commerce and this kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So they're going to these inaugurations, right, and all I'd
Speaker 2: hear about is that it's so cold you just want
Speaker 2: it to be over. And so in a way, it
Speaker 2: is cold in Washington in January. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: not like, well, if the weather's good, it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: My point is moving it inside is not only smart,
Speaker 2: it should be policy. It should always be inside in
Speaker 2: my judgment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and this is one of the coldest.
Speaker 1: I mean to your point, but this forecast for Monday
Speaker 1: is the coldest in forty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mentioned Jimmy Carter, you know, was there. He
Speaker 2: was in the teens for Carter. I think a windshow
Speaker 2: was in the team. So it was probably around twenty
Speaker 2: degrees anyway, So major news out of the Middle East, right, myla.
Speaker 2: We were waiting for this moment, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was supposed to happen yesterday the
Speaker 1: vote it got delayed, and then that vote officially happened
Speaker 1: early Friday local time. So it's been some hours and
Speaker 1: now that ceasefire agreement is in effect after that quote
Speaker 1: last minute crisis. So this is a three phase deal
Speaker 1: that was cut and the first phase goes into effect Sunday,
Speaker 1: just a couple of days from now, of course, and
Speaker 1: this means the release of believe about thirty three hostages
Speaker 1: that includes a few Americans as well. That's phase one.
Speaker 2: It also includes as I was reading, it's hostages that
Speaker 2: have lived and hostages that have died during this entire time.
Speaker 2: So what then is It's followed then by as I
Speaker 2: understand it, phased agreements, that is to say, releases that
Speaker 2: will follow, particularly on the release of Palestinian prisoners on
Speaker 2: the Israeli side, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, about twelve hundred to fifteen hundred Palestinians will be
Speaker 1: released in exchange for the hostage release.
Speaker 2: And there's always kind of an asymmetry between the number
Speaker 2: of Palestinian prisoners who are released and hostage.
Speaker 3: It just happened when.
Speaker 2: Israeli soldiers are captured, they trade eleven hundred Palestinian prisoners
Speaker 2: for the release of one Israeli soldier type thing. So
Speaker 2: again the imbalance here. It's not a one to one release,
Speaker 2: but this really I think most importantly, apart from that
Speaker 2: brings an end to the fighting in Gaza. And it's
Speaker 2: an extraordinary thing that this has gone on as long
Speaker 2: as it has. It's been a horrifying humanitarian crisis during
Speaker 2: all of these many months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, of course they're calling this a fragile
Speaker 1: and extremely complex agreement, even hamas getting the hostages safely
Speaker 1: to a handover point will present significant security challenges. So
Speaker 1: we'll see how it all starts to play out as
Speaker 1: of Sunday. But of course this is something that's been
Speaker 1: in the works. We've heard over the last fifteen months
Speaker 1: since October the seventh, of course, that there were so
Speaker 1: many times we got close to a deal, they've reached
Speaker 1: a deal, and then of course that just fell apart.
Speaker 1: So we finally have accomplished this. We'll wait and see
Speaker 1: what happens come Sunday.
Speaker 2: And it's you know, a contentious thing in Israel. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was never this agreement in Israel that.
Speaker 3: On a.
Speaker 2: Net Yaho is a very very troubled figure politically in Israel,
Speaker 2: and there's a tremendous amount of distrust of Net Yahou
Speaker 2: and anger toward Net Yahoo. And there's also i'd suggest
Speaker 2: because of this hostage crisis, support for Netan Yahoo that
Speaker 2: he wasn't getting before October seventh.
Speaker 1: And you know, the Trump administration is taking a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for this for saying not long ago, you know,
Speaker 1: they'll be held to pay if the hostages aren't released
Speaker 1: before I become president again. And the White House even
Speaker 1: confirming that Trumps did help in this final negotiation in Doha.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought one of the encouraging things, and maybe
Speaker 2: it's you know, one of the last encouraging things in
Speaker 2: the sense that there is a kind of a group
Speaker 2: effort that is claimed as a group effort, was that
Speaker 2: both sides, Trump people and Biden people helped broker this deal.
Speaker 2: So they did it together, and they were ready to
Speaker 2: recognize that it took both sides them together to get
Speaker 2: the deal done. I mean, this, for example, is a
Speaker 2: contrast to the Reagan administration. You remember that Reagan and
Speaker 2: this is demonstrably true. You can google what I'm about
Speaker 2: to tell you. The Reagan administration actually back channeled with
Speaker 2: the Iranian hostage deal such that the Iranian hostages were
Speaker 2: not released. During the Jimmy Carter administration, the release of
Speaker 2: the hostages was held up until Reagan was inaugurated. It
Speaker 2: was it's horrifying to think about it. Frankly, I thought
Speaker 2: it was. You know, when you look back at that
Speaker 2: bit of history, it's incredible. You want to get these hostages, said,
Speaker 2: are American hostages being held by Iranian terrorists, and the
Speaker 2: Reagan people engineered a deal so that they would be
Speaker 2: remain hostages until Jimmy Carter was out of office and
Speaker 2: Reagan was in office.
Speaker 3: So that's not what happened here, Okay.
Speaker 2: What happened here was both sides brokeer this deal, and
Speaker 2: the deal is actually beginning prior to Trump getting in office,
Speaker 2: prior by a day or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: But it's still I think.
Speaker 2: It stands in stark contrast to that example that I
Speaker 2: just gave you from American history.
Speaker 1: So off the top, we were talking about the phases one, two,
Speaker 1: and three. Learning a little bit more about that. So
Speaker 1: Phase one, as mentioned, will last about six weeks. That
Speaker 1: features a ceasefire, a withdrawal of Israeli troops, swap of
Speaker 1: hostages and prisoners as we discussed, and an influx of
Speaker 1: humanitarian aid reportedly into Gaza. US hostages held in Gaza
Speaker 1: will be released in that first phase the second though
Speaker 1: the second and third phases are less developed. That's why
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of information. We haven't said
Speaker 1: a lot about that. Those details will be decided during
Speaker 1: the first phase, so those details for phase two and
Speaker 1: three have yet to be worked out.
Speaker 3: That's what we know.
Speaker 2: And the important thing is the vote in Israel, which
Speaker 2: had been bumped by a day, as Marla was saying,
Speaker 2: it has now been held and that deal is underway. Again,
Speaker 2: these are fragile arrangements. We hope this cease fire holds
Speaker 2: and this deal continues. So building back La and southern
Speaker 2: California after this unprecedented loss. You've done a lot of
Speaker 2: reporting on this and I think talking to public officials.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So first and four of us we had La
Speaker 1: the City Council Willmen Tracy Park, she represents the eleventh
Speaker 1: district on the La City Council. She joined me last
Speaker 1: night on the Fox eleven News at six o'clock. And this,
Speaker 1: of course comes on the same day that there was
Speaker 1: some frustration of the repopulation people being able to come
Speaker 1: back to their homes in evacuated zones, and earlier in
Speaker 1: the day yesterday, the sheriff was saying it's going to
Speaker 1: be at least a week for the majority of people.
Speaker 1: But then there were some evacuation orders lifted and some people,
Speaker 1: as Amy King has been reporting, more than ten thousand
Speaker 1: have been allowed to go back to their homes and
Speaker 1: the Palisades Fire alone, and then some yesterday got to
Speaker 1: go back home and the Eaten Fire. Now, mind you,
Speaker 1: a lot of these people, especially in the Eating Fire,
Speaker 1: they don't have power, so they just got to go
Speaker 1: check their house out, and then they left for the night,
Speaker 1: so they're still out of their homes. Tracy park with
Speaker 1: me last night at six. I asked her, are you
Speaker 1: happy with the pacing of all this? And here's what
Speaker 1: she Are you satisfied with the pace?
Speaker 6: No, I'm not, Sam, And I'm also not satisfied with
Speaker 6: the level of communication or the details so that we
Speaker 6: can manage expectations around the timing and the process for this.
Speaker 6: These are decisions that are being made by the Unified Command,
Speaker 6: which is led by CalFire in partnership with the Utilities
Speaker 6: and DWP. I have been pushing hard to try to
Speaker 6: make this happen as soon as possible, but those, unfortunately,
Speaker 6: are decisions that are not made by the Council office.
Speaker 1: Okay, so she's not happy with it, basically saying, my
Speaker 1: hands are tied. This isn't a council decision. This is
Speaker 1: a CalFire Utilities decision. Meanwhile, we did talk about rebuilding
Speaker 1: and redevelopment, and this is pretty shocking to me. She
Speaker 1: talks about how long it could be before that process
Speaker 1: can even begin.
Speaker 6: In addition to the orders from the Governor and the
Speaker 6: executive directive from the Mayor, on Tuesday this week, I
Speaker 6: introduced to a package of legislation more than two dozen
Speaker 6: motions that le foundation for recovery and rebuilding in the
Speaker 6: Pacific Palisades. We are going to do everything that we
Speaker 6: can to bring services on site, to consolidate processes, and
Speaker 6: to make this as efficient as possible. But I also
Speaker 6: want to manage some expectations here. Everything in the Palisades
Speaker 6: has been destroyed. All of the underground infrastructure, gas lines,
Speaker 6: water lines are all broken, power lines above ground are
Speaker 6: all down. Just clearing the toxic ash and debris and
Speaker 6: rubble is likely to take nine months or a year.
Speaker 6: So we are a ways out until actual building begins.
Speaker 6: But we are already bringing the resources to get that done.
Speaker 3: This is so right on what she said, and it's
Speaker 3: so lost in all of it.
Speaker 2: I think you've got to clear just the cleanup could
Speaker 2: take almost a year.
Speaker 1: And you think about all the hazardous materials that are
Speaker 1: coming from the cleanup as well. So it's and then
Speaker 1: only then can the rebuilding actually begin and the permitting process.
Speaker 1: We know that the governor has issued executive orders to
Speaker 1: speed all of that up, and that is great, but
Speaker 1: in the meantime, it's going to take We're going to
Speaker 1: be in twenty twenty six before rebuilding can even begin.
Speaker 2: You know, these plumbing fixtures, when they're melted and they're gone.
Speaker 2: Apparently the build back on that alone is immense. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've just talked about the cleanup being immense, but building
Speaker 2: back what she spoke of the infrastructure, the electric the plumbing,
Speaker 2: it's incredible. So water quality can be impacted, and you
Speaker 2: know the campfire in Paradise, California, the Mali fires. When
Speaker 2: an entire neighborhood is lost in a fire, the water
Speaker 2: system is compromised often, and I'm reading more and more
Speaker 2: about the fact that civil engineers and those who come
Speaker 2: with great and academic training in this area say you've
Speaker 2: got to be really careful because toxic byproducts can be
Speaker 2: part of that water build back if you're not careful.
Speaker 2: In other words, you can really, if you're not careful,
Speaker 2: affect the reliability of drinking water. So these are all
Speaker 2: things that it's not just building back the structure, it's
Speaker 2: the infrastructure associated with it that really has to be focused.
Speaker 1: To me, Yeah, you hit the nail on the head
Speaker 1: with that. And then of course there's all the talk
Speaker 1: about building back smarter, more fireproof, if you will, fireproofing,
Speaker 1: but even fire officials say that fire proofing entirely is
Speaker 1: not possible. You know, it is possible to design a
Speaker 1: building that won't easily easily ignite, But then again, when
Speaker 1: you are dealing with home heart, when you're dealing with
Speaker 1: these extreme situations like what we just dealt with, those
Speaker 1: protections can only do so much.
Speaker 2: Right, These are supercharged flames, and if they're setting a
Speaker 2: blaze long enough, entire area, even even concrete and glass
Speaker 2: is going to go. And we talked to a couple
Speaker 2: of people just in the this week who have lost
Speaker 2: homes and structures in Malibu, and they'd had those building
Speaker 2: materials exactly exactly so we know that, so this is
Speaker 2: a monumental task ahead, but it will continue. And it's
Speaker 2: a question of and there are you know, there are
Speaker 2: a couple of things. Will take a quick break and
Speaker 2: then I just will button it out with There are
Speaker 2: a couple of things that municipalities, cities and cooperative agreements
Speaker 2: between the public and those entities are doing to make
Speaker 2: things fast tracked and to help with rebuilding and building
Speaker 2: materials I'm talking about. We'll just touch on that a
Speaker 2: little bit when we come back. Also in the next hour.
Speaker 2: I just want to mention again we had the question
Speaker 2: about the Super Scoopers and how much they are and
Speaker 2: whether it's worth it, and I got that call yesterday
Speaker 2: right when we got off the air, and Steve Kraeker
Speaker 2: is brilliant and he will just set us straight on
Speaker 2: exactly the value of these Super Scoopers and why we
Speaker 2: lease instead of buy.
Speaker 3: It's always fun.
Speaker 2: On Friday on the Gary and Shannon Show, Mark and
Speaker 2: Marla's sitting in.
Speaker 3: They'll be back on Monday.
Speaker 2: We're just talking about the rebuild effort in La after
Speaker 2: these devastating fires. I mean, it's a monumental task. We
Speaker 2: mentioned the cleanup alone could take a year or more.
Speaker 2: I mean a year might be an optimistic.
Speaker 1: Yes, So Councilwoman Tracy Park, who represents part of the
Speaker 1: Pacific Palisades for the La City Council, she was with
Speaker 1: me last night and said estimated nine months to a
Speaker 1: year for the debris to be removed, but then there
Speaker 1: are estimates that it could take years. A lot of
Speaker 1: that because of the topography of the land as well
Speaker 1: as the sheer amount of toxic materials that need to
Speaker 1: be collected. So we're looking at probably a very very
Speaker 1: long timeline before rebuilding can begin.
Speaker 2: But you're gonna have to and you're gonna have to find,
Speaker 2: you know, demic changes that are going to have to
Speaker 2: go into place in terms of building materials. And you know,
Speaker 2: we were saying before the break that these fire resistant
Speaker 2: materials they won't, you know, bullet proof your house in
Speaker 2: effect from fire, but they will help. And obviously I
Speaker 2: think the build well the structures that are rebuilt will
Speaker 2: have to honor that. And they can also be incentivized.
Speaker 2: You know, you can economically incentivize using these fire resistant
Speaker 2: materials so that the state and a lot of these
Speaker 2: communities can I'm talking about essentially local institutions can offer
Speaker 2: incentives if you'll use these fire resistant materials in the
Speaker 2: build back.
Speaker 1: And then how about this. I heard from a real
Speaker 1: estate agent who covers the Pacific Palisades and he sent
Speaker 1: me what he calls the first listing of a home
Speaker 1: since the fires went on the MLS yesterday. This is
Speaker 1: a home that burned down. I'm looking at the square footage.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find that information. But the lot itself,
Speaker 1: after burning down, is now listed for nine hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety thousand dollars, so for a million bucks. First home
Speaker 1: went on sale in the Palisades. Of course, you can
Speaker 1: buy the land, you got to rebuild.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the point.
Speaker 2: It's not a home yet, it's just a piece of land,
Speaker 2: but it's a piece of land and a very valuable
Speaker 2: place in Los Angeles. And the question becomes how long
Speaker 2: will it take for the Palisades to build back?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's one of those questions that
Speaker 2: is ongoing.
Speaker 1: And then there's the other issue of go fundmes and
Speaker 1: the conflict with getting a GoFundMe and FEMA. So our
Speaker 1: reporter Gena Silvia last night did this story that I
Speaker 1: think it's really important to stress. And that is all
Speaker 1: the crowd sourcing, all the crowdfunding that we're seeing for people.
Speaker 1: You know, it's great, but guess what when seeking assistance
Speaker 1: after the wildfires, you have to ensure that GoFundMe and
Speaker 1: FEMA funds are used for different purposes to avoid legal issues.
Speaker 1: In other words, FEMA assistance is intended for uninsured or
Speaker 1: underinsured losses and cannot duplicate benefits from other sources like
Speaker 1: insurance or go fundme. We knew that about insurance, but
Speaker 1: we did not know that necessarily about GoFundMe. So if
Speaker 1: you're using a GoFundMe and then you apply for FEMA,
Speaker 1: the funds must be for different purposes. You need to
Speaker 1: specify this clearly, otherwise FEMA will deny you coverage.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me help here, because I think if
Speaker 2: you are going to do a go fund me, and
Speaker 2: it's smart to do so, I think the needs are profound,
Speaker 2: you need to probably mention or specify that you're going
Speaker 2: to cover immediate expenses so.
Speaker 1: Not to rebuild. So don't exactly don't use phrases like
Speaker 1: help us rebuild.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, So the minute you say help us rebuild.
Speaker 2: FEMA is not going to come near you with their
Speaker 2: support financially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then how about this. We talked to an
Speaker 1: attorney and if you you know, unknowingly do this and
Speaker 1: you collect funds from FEMA, guess what the A FEMA
Speaker 1: can demand repayment and may file criminal charges for defrauding
Speaker 1: the government. I mean that's worst case scenario.
Speaker 2: But oh, the government will get their money back. They'll
Speaker 2: get their money back.
Speaker 1: So it could backfire.
Speaker 2: That is a super important detail and it's one that
Speaker 2: I wasn't aware of. But I look at these FEMA
Speaker 2: stipulations and they're very specific. So if you are involved
Speaker 2: in some kind of GoFundMe, please be careful because I'd
Speaker 2: hate to see that happen where the government says, sorry,
Speaker 2: we can't help now because you have talked about these
Speaker 2: funds going toward the build back.
Speaker 3: You know. Bob Eucker died yesterday. Such a loss at.
Speaker 2: Ninety years old, brilliant Milwaukee brewer, and his hometown of
Speaker 2: Milwaukee mourns his passing. But he became a larger than
Speaker 2: life figure right because he became well a comedian and
Speaker 2: a comic actor who was in mister Belvitere.
Speaker 3: You know, he is the first.
Speaker 1: Major league Yeah, major league, my favorite, just a bit outside.
Speaker 3: And he was a talk show favorite. Here he is.
Speaker 3: Opening day must bring back a let.
Speaker 7: Letter letter h for for a guy like myself who
Speaker 7: was one of the all time greats.
Speaker 3: I guess opening days are.
Speaker 7: I can remember I think my first opening day. They
Speaker 7: had told me we were playing a night game, and
Speaker 7: I found out we'd played that afternoon.
Speaker 3: So I kind of got some bad infro there.
Speaker 7: I kind of missed that Opening Day to me was
Speaker 7: going out to the bullpen early and stocking it with
Speaker 7: sandwiches and candy bars, and because I knew that's where
Speaker 7: I was going to be the rest of the day
Speaker 7: and probably the rest of the year, you know.
Speaker 2: And there's nothing the great Bob Buker, And you know,
Speaker 2: he took his baseball very seriously. He was a play
Speaker 2: by play guy and just a beloved member of the
Speaker 2: baseball community and a pillar of baseball in a Wisconsin
Speaker 2: as well. And apparently, when the Brewers clinched the National
Speaker 2: League Central title in twenty twenty four, Pat Murphy, the manager,
Speaker 2: threw an arm around Uker in the locker room, pulled
Speaker 2: him in tight as players uncorked champagne and they showered
Speaker 2: him in champagne.
Speaker 3: It was really and they all chanted. Yuk yuk yuke.
Speaker 2: Bob Uker passes away mister baseball at ninety.
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