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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It

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is episode one hundred and trace. I'm Michael Hardy here

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as always here with Dan Reikert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, aye, that's me.

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Speaker 1: Sorry one hundred and twas Sorry Dan, I went low

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brow Spanish for a second.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's much better.

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Speaker 1: I only listened to French and Mary.

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Speaker 2: That's what I say. That's my catchphrase.

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Speaker 1: Wow, nice bag at nice? How's it going good?

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Speaker 2: I just got run this light outside when we do this, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We've done a few this year. I feel like it's nice.

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I like it because it's not one am on the

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East Coast.

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Speaker 2: I like the late night podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you both do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm drinking coffee like it's so odd. And the

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light on my face isn't my my fake light ring light,

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which is like very glaring. It's the on.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, just a green wall at all times when

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I'm recording stuff here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you have blackout curtains?

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Speaker 2: I feel like you Those are blue, but if you

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close them, the light doesn't come in.

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Speaker 3: Blackout curtains doesn't mean they're black. It means that it

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blacks out the sun.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't hurt though, if it is right I wonder how.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's extra if they're also black. Yeah, I wonder.

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Speaker 1: How different my bookshelf is from. Oh, Paul probably doesn't

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have a bookshelf.

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Speaker 2: No, he's got he's got some baseball books. He's got

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some like he had some old Stephen King stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There are like six wine books that are actually out

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for studying that are not on the shelf right now.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, he's got a lot of those. Yeah. I

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think you are you know, I think you are cool.

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You've got a passion and you follow it and you're

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on a passion about it. I respect it. I did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm over there and give you a niggy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree more with Mary.

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Speaker 1: Actually, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I get on my side. Let's beat them up.

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Speaker 1: I have my test on May first for two.

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Speaker 2: All right, what different colors can wine be? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Fuck god? See this is why I need to study

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more blue.

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Speaker 2: Or red red? Is there a blue wine?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: They should do that gimmick words.

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Speaker 1: Like in purple white, like Surrah and pinotage like a bluish.

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Speaker 2: I got I'm gonna change the marketing of the wine world.

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Remember like in the nineties when pop Secret would do

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like oh, it's popcorn, but these are like pink and

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green and blue popcorn. Or here's you know, blue ketchup

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and stuff like that. I'm gonna start a line of

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wines and it's gonna be wacky colors and flavors, and

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it's gonna be like squeeze its. They will all have

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faces on the side of the bottle, and they'll all

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have different personalities. Goofy gray Pear's, you know, billy blue

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raspberry wine goo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it changes the color of your tongue.

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Speaker 1: Wacky banana is to die for?

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Speaker 3: Can you put googly eyes on the bottles? I've always wanted.

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Speaker 2: This would get me more into wine. You'd get people

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like me.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people doing similar stuff in

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like the natural wine world that are trying to make it,

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like yes, less stuffy and more fun, and they're.

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Speaker 3: One time during Christmas, I bought a bottle of wine

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because it came with a tiny Santa hat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we need to gimmick up the wine industry.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's got so it was.

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Speaker 3: So cute and I was look at him, he's got

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a little hat on. Like if you put little cowboy

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hats on your wine, I'd be like, let's get them

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all got a industry is.

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Speaker 1: Just as gimmicky as video maybe not as video games,

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but it's close. Like there's.

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Speaker 3: I had to bust out the full name for that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Michael, there are some people that are trying some

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uh some questionable stuff marketing wise.

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Speaker 2: Are there wine pre order bonuses?

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Speaker 1: Oh? God, yeah, dude, people people like people. Uh with

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some of the most expensive wines in the world, you

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have to pre order and you only you get like

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a lottery to to order them. And then you yeah.

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Speaker 2: You don't get like a special catwoman level if you

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do it, Like what do you get if you pre

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ordered bonus? A wine?

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Speaker 3: You can peel off the lady on the other side. Okay,

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I mean I'm giving the wine industry free ideas.

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Speaker 1: Here you're pouring nineteen brunello and fucking foon Kay Johnson

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comes out of the bottle. Nice. I would buy that,

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that would be I would have questions about that.

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Speaker 3: What are those chocolates?

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Speaker 1: Kinder surprise already a wine bottle.

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Speaker 3: There should be wino surprises. There's a little plastic trinket

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in each bottle that you get that you might choke on,

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so there is a warning on the.

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Speaker 2: Cracker Jack Yes, yeah, or cereal.

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Speaker 3: You could have a cracker Jack wine with the special

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feature isn't even that it tastes good. There's just an

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item in there.

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Speaker 2: You get a cork that changes color based on like

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how wet it gets with the wine.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: The process was. It was cereals. Sometimes you'd get a

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plastic spoon that would be like, oh, it's neon green,

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but then when it touches the milk it turns blue. Thought, oh,

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they should have a cork that when it touches the

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wine it changes color. But that just happens.

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Speaker 3: I remember that serial gimmick, and that was really special.

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Your idea is faltered, but I do like your vision.

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There are there were beer bottles that I thought were

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cool that they the label changed color and the beer

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was cold enough to drink, of course, which is like

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it's real courses, it's red wine. But if it's too

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cold or too warm, the bottle gets all weird. Yeah,

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and it's like no, no nons to be classic room temp. Yeah,

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the actual wine colors, it's not the right thing.

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Speaker 1: You and this blue wine thing, you got to see

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it through blue wine? What the hell is the name

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of that comedian with the Guinness Coors joke.

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Speaker 2: That I love.

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Speaker 1: Uh he's from Colorado. No, hmm, I'll figure it out.

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He's got like, yeah, you guys.

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Speaker 3: Like a lick a stick, but it's like stuff. No,

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lick a stick is different. Yes, it means it does

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have the pixie stick stuff, but you lick the stick

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and then you dip it.

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Speaker 2: Those are fun sticks, right, fun dip but dip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we found a way we got.

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Speaker 2: I don't love those because like that you bite is

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chalky and weird. And I also I never like to

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as much as I like sugar, I need to be

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a part of something. It can't just be sugar.

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Speaker 3: I was just wondering, is there a way to bring

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the fun of fun dip to winem?

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Speaker 2: Could you make like a bowl of wine that you

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dip cheese into or something?

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Speaker 3: See I knew the cheese was somehow going to make

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its way into this conversation, but I don't think we're

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there yet. I'm thinking of like a fun straw that

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has like lots of different like swivels in it, but

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it's also a cookie.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, I feel like it would get soggy.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't survive long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like.

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Speaker 2: I like any gimmick where you eat the thing, like

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like a tortilla bowl, you know, where it's like, this

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is a vessel and then I eat it. I like it.

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Speaker 3: Or the hat from the Simpsons where it was like

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a Western hat and the cheese was in thee.

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Speaker 2: That specific reference got me into trouble because I made

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a bed ten years ago and Giant Bond was like, oh,

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I'll eat a hat if this thing doesn't happen, and

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I thought in my head, like, oh, it's no big deal.

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If I lose, I'll just go one of those from

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the Simpsons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that is real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't. They don't exist for many many years.

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Speaker 1: I think there is.

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Speaker 3: There is a world in which have you ever seen

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those hats that have like two beers on each side?

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Speaker 1: I owned one.

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Speaker 3: Can they do that for wine?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You just put words and you couldn't straw. Yeah,

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hat like a tricorn.

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Speaker 3: I just like the point of the side is that

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it looks really good at like a baseball game, you know,

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where other alcoholics are. But winos want to be like fancy,

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so it has to be something that like looks.

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Speaker 1: Like I think you guys need to spend more time

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around people who are railing a wine. They're not all

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every other wee. There's some oh yeah, true, other people

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besides me. It's it's not the most it's not always

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this glamorous thing.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it feels like most wine people are also

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into boats, which.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, boats are I agree.

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Speaker 3: So it's like a pair of sperries. But there's like

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a place where you can put mini wine bottles.

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Speaker 1: In the uh you got? I got some people to

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show you that are characters in the wine industry who

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are like the most down to earth farmers who would

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make stone Cold look preppy. Okay, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Would hang out with them, I know. No.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever happened to the beer hats? I feel like

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I have one day They're bad.

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Speaker 2: I thought they'd be great, and then I got one

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as a gift one so I'm like hell yeah, And

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I put two beers in there and I drank a

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little bit and it's kind of hard and weird to

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drink with it, and then it's worse afterwards because it's like,

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I guess I probably should have found a way to

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actually clean it, but like beer just kind of stays

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in the straw, and it's not like you're using it

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every couple of days and keeping it flushed out, so

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it just gets gross and smelly and it's not good.

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Speaker 3: It does sound gross, especially if it's those fun windy

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straws that are like, yep, it could be pretty gross.

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I have a novelty beer baseball hat a bat that

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I got from the Portland Pickles. They have a baseball team,

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and you can buy a bat that's hollow, like a

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plastic bat, and you can fill it with beer and

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it comes with a lid. You know, it's like the

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bottom of the bat. You can screw it on and

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you can like swing with it and everything, and the

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beer's in there and it's totally solid. But what happened

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was is like I got drunk on beer bats, bat beer,

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and then I went home and like threw the bat

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in like a closet and the next time I was like,

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let's go to this Portland Pickles game. I took out

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my bat and opened it and it was fucking gross.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my fault.

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Speaker 3: It's my fault. I could have rinsed the beer.

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Speaker 2: That handsome gimmick though, that's that's the type of stuff

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you need to bring the wine is because like that

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is a good gimmick. I feel like beer and like

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candy and kids foods have so many.

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Speaker 3: Good wine and a beer bat like you need to

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have like its own things. The juxtaposition, like a book.

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just straight up liquid in there and you have to

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hold it a very specific angle. Or all the wine phones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like people get those fake bibles that like

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hold guns, like, no do that with wine.

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Speaker 1: That blue one here is a fake book that's.

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Speaker 2: Your gun wine book. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If you pull it, the wall opens up and there's.

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Speaker 1: Like a gimp back there like oh yeah, yeah, you

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love that bit. You do that all the time. Rob

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does it too. I would love to hide that's I would.

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I could probably fashion a wine gun book. I don't

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know what they like.

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Speaker 2: I don't have anything to hide as far as like

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I don't have guns, weeds, legals, so I don't have

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to like hide weed. Like it's the nineties, Like I

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don't really need to tuck anything away. But I like

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the idea of that, you know, like a fake book

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or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cooling.

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Speaker 3: Book just for the novelty of it. You don't have

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to put anything dangerous in there. But if you really want,

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I'll buy you a gun.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I want a gun, A little one. No,

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I've got a gun to shoot salt for when woods

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come out.

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Speaker 1: That's good for house flies. Yes, it's bursting. We use

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it for like mementos, like from dates and traveling and whatnot.

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I like playbills from stuff. It's just of Amanda. There's

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some there's some stuff in here that I can't show you. No,

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I'm just kidding, but like like name tags from people's weddings,

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we put it and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: Yet one of those boxes, Yeah, it's bursting.

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Speaker 1: I need a new one. But it's the night before Christmas.

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Throw them off. They'll never know what was that?

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Speaker 2: Wasn't the Scrooge thing? What is the night before Christmas?

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Is that just a poem or something?

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Speaker 1: Scrooge is Christmas Carol? Night before Christmas? Yeah, it's a

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poem through the house. Yeah you're sleeping. Not even or

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not a creature was stirring. Not even a mouse went

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out on the rooftop or rose such a clatter or something.

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It's not like I memorize the entire thing. Yeah, I'm

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not like, I'm not continually thinking about Christmas all the time.

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So I do singing a Christmas carol while we were

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making our bad earlier.

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Speaker 3: Also, all of his books are hollow, and they're filled

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with drugs.

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Speaker 1: It's not drugs. I mean it's legal. It's a drug,

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but it's legal. There's several one here.

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Speaker 2: I keep all my marijuana in a red dead redemption

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two leather caddy thing that rocks are something that I

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know exactly. Yeah, that's my that's my weed thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my weed thing. Mine's in my grandma's candy dish.

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I don't know how she would feel about that, but

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I do like to keep her with me because my

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Carama was really cool. No, I don't think so. She

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really liked farm veil on Facebook, and she liked uh

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water aerobics, and she liked to make blueberry muffins.

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Speaker 2: This is some classic old lady stuff I like.

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Speaker 3: I know, she was a class she was she was

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a standard, but she was a knockout gal and I

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really like her. She was killing it. But anyway, when

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she passed, I was a to get some items from her,

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just as everybody in the family, and some things that

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were really important to me was her tea set because

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we used to have tea when I was like a kid,

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and her candy dish because I always just remember like

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having like little old lady candy in there and being like,

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all right, you know the one with the strawberry absolutrapper

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and stuff. Very important. Anyway, I don't really actually keep

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hard candy in the house yet. I mean, one day

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I think I will, but right now it's filled with

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my weed pen and my CBD gummies and et cetera,

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et cetera. And I never really thought about it until

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just now. But I don't know if that's like the

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right place for it, but I do look at it

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a lot, and I really like thinking about her.

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Speaker 2: I think that works. There's nothing inherently wrong with some weed.

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Yeah it's legally, Grandma would be. Yeah, yeah, it's legal,

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but it's stupid still some places like it's completely legal

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recreationally here, but there's a dispensary near me, but the

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dispensary laws are like fucking weird here, so I had

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to get a medical license. Oh that is weird, And

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it's just it's just one of these stupid charades you.

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Speaker 3: Give someone twenty bucks and they're just like you need it,

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and they give you a piece of paper.

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Speaker 2: You know, you get on a video call with some

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guy and you say, like, yes, I have anxiety and

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sometimes I have trouble sleeping. And you have to go

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through this whole thing and submit a form to the

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state and do all this stuff and then it costs money,

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right yeah, yeah, but then you're good for like three

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years and by the time that's up there will be

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actual recreational dispensaries.

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Speaker 3: Here I think so too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like bars will sell THHD drinks. You can

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buy gummies and TC drinks at the grocery store, but

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for like actual like I like the vape cartridges and

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stuff like if you want to get flour or that,

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you have to go to an actual like medical dispensary. Still,

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it's weird.

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Speaker 3: Portland's always been like kind of the wild West for

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that stuff. We've always been the first to legalize. In fact,

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we criminalized all drugs. I don't know if you guys

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knew that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, heroine stuff, didn't it not go well?

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Speaker 3: It has been great, but it's controversial of like literally

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if it's because like that's a bad idea or if

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the reality is like yeah, if you're if you're doing

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like a lot of hard drugs and stuff like that.

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The idea here was like instead of putting them into jail,

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they have to go to rehab because they probably shouldn't

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be addicted to heroin. Now if all of the rehabilitation

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places are full and they can't go anywhere, and now

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they can't go to jail because it's decriminalized, what happens

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is is you have a bunch of addicts hanging out.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't joke. It's just it's just, oh no, I

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shouldn't joke.

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Speaker 3: There going on.

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Speaker 1: You had that like the policymakers in Portland or Oregon

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were like, holy ship, way more people like drugs than

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we expected. Yeah, popular, Yeah, I know the people. It's

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a serious problem. It's just like they did not they

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didn't correctly fathom how many people would need the rehab.

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Speaker 3: They didn't fund, which is probably like bigger, bigger controversy.

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But it is decriminalized I think currently as far as

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I'm aware, like you can do anything. We also had

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like free range on on like CBD and th HC

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in your drinks. So right right now, if you're getting

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a CBD soda. It probably came from a can because

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it needs to be regulated, you know, like they have

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to toss it in a.

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Speaker 2: Mountain milligrams max. Yeah, just like.

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Speaker 1: Beer, okay or wine.

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Speaker 3: Five years ago in Portland they would be like, do

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you want a slushy from our slushy machine. We're also

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adding like two droppers of THHC into it, and we

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feel like.

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Speaker 2: Just loosely, just like like jungle juice, shake it up

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with weed.

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Speaker 3: And if they're like feeling it, they just put more

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droppers in.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like that. I like the I like

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knowing exactly how many milligrams I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: That insane telling you it was the wild West. There

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was a point in time, this was like before the

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government recognized that you really need to regulate this ship

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where Portland was just shoving it in any drink. You

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could add it as a bonus. You could be like, yeah,

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I'll have a you know, like I would like a

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whiskey soda and put two droppers of fucking weed in

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there too.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: An hour after Mary has a slushy, she's just at

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the table.

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Speaker 3: It did happen to me. I definitely did like accidentally

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like have way too much of my like dropper or whatever.

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At one point it probably happened to a lot of people,

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which is probably why they regulated the shit out of it.

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I just think like it's interesting because we're often the

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testing grounds of what ends up happening with the rest

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of the United States. So when everyone's like, it's so crazy,

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like you can buy weed now, but you know you

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do have to have the little fake license. You guess

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that was like us like ten years ago and now

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it's just like crazy over here. Yeah, you are kind

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of Maybe you guys will treat it like you know,

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drugs soon.

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Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of drugs, I watched Dread from twenty twelve finally.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a great one.

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Speaker 1: The yeah, really good movie. Daniel record, like like Giant

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Bombies guys have been recommending. Well, the poster was in.

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Speaker 2: The poster up there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good movie. Fantastic. What's the drug called?

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Like it as their perception of time.

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Speaker 2: I forget what it's called, but it's a very movie

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drug name. Yeah, that's the video of a movie. Yeah,

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that's right. It's a total video game of a movie.

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Like in the best way.

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Speaker 1: It's very It almost had Zack Snyder vibes, which I

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don't usually like maic book comic book like uh to

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put it like I had Sin City? Who did was

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that Zack Snyder? I think that it had like it

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definitely HD the comic book influence. But it was good.

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I liked it. Okay, Yeah, it's a good movie. If

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you haven't seen it, it's like an hour and a

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half of cool stuff. Carl like this. It's just really

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badass cop. I think we need more cop movies, is

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what I'm trying to say, speaking of regulating drugs and

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and more cops.

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Speaker 3: More drugs.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of good drugs, more tariffs, higher percentages.

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Speaker 3: No less eggs.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put all those on my soundboard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be really good. Play it, but don't tell

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anybody who is saying it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I have that contex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I have like a you can

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you know when it's Jeff Grubb, you know when it's

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Mike Manatti talking.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Glitter Day.

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Speaker 1: There you go. You don't really know it's.

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Speaker 2: Jack Stop in a rape Fores. What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Can you guess? Who that is? Guess who it is?

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Speaker 2: Stop in a rate for Do you think it's back

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al Art?

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Speaker 1: I think it's Gilbert Godfrey.

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Speaker 2: Who is that? It could be anyone?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, Yeah, I don't. I think you could

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play a sound by me saying more tariffs, and I

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don't think people would know what it is who it is.

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Speaker 2: People would not know whom sun as Jack and Off

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in a rainforest cafe.

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Speaker 1: No, did he do that? Was that a thing? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Nice?

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Speaker 1: I have more respect for him now I have less.

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That's fair.

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Speaker 2: He's listening.

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Speaker 1: I Mike it was low before. Does he listened fire Escape? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he definitely does. And Mike, he kills him

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whenever we talk about like j RPGs and stuff. He

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hates it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I like j RPGs. I submitted one for our

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top one hundred. Marry did not include it in the

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actual bracket though, which one PERSONA five and I and

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Kingdom Heart? Oh? Actually, Dan, you were very taken aback

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that I had Kingdom Heart. It does an honorable mention.

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Speaker 2: That is fucked up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you knew that I liked that game, Yeah,

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the first one, not the other twelve What did you don't.

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Speaker 2: Strike me as that guy? What do you like about it?

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Speaker 1: It's it's like mostly nostalgia. I played it is the

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nostalgia or no, no, no, no, just that game specifically the music,

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the soundtrack. That game is like the most I've ever

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been into Final Fantasy. No, that's not true. I like

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Final Fantasy six, but that's about it. Like remake was cool.

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I've not touched Rebirth yet, but I don't know something

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about Kingdom Hearts the vibes of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, then you should have put a higher on your list.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not saying that shouldn't been there, but

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Persona five was high on my list. It was like

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number fifteen for me.

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Speaker 3: What's not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It was actually where was it? Let me look,

471
00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:48,599
I haven't played it five times like somebody we know, But.

472
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 2: Well, it would have been annihilated in the first round.

473
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Yeah, very fair unless it went

474
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,359
up against I just I was.

475
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Speaker 3: Like, if you guys feel really strongly about a game

476
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,440
and you're like, it's very important that it's in this show,

477
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,279
I was like, put it high on your list?

478
00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:10,799
Speaker 1: Does this look high brow to you?

479
00:21:10,839 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 2: What am I looking at it?

480
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: It's a wine zine called Noble Rot. Look at it?

481
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 2: A wine zine?

482
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 1: What about this looks high brow to you?

483
00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: Uh, audio listener, he's got He's just got a wine zine.

484
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,079
That's what else to say about this? I don't know

485
00:21:25,079 --> 00:21:28,119
what I'm looking at. It's essays about fucking wine with cartoons.

486
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all, none of these images have wines.

487
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,640
I don't think it's a.

488
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 1: Very good direct.

489
00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:35,279
Speaker 2: You got a guy in an ascot drinking wine.

490
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,319
Speaker 1: That's Benedett Cumberbatch. Kara writes for this magazine. She's super

491
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:39,799
into wine.

492
00:21:39,839 --> 00:21:44,319
Speaker 3: She's it's a zine proven anything.

493
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 2: No, this is doing nothing.

494
00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:47,279
Speaker 1: You think that doesn't look like that?

495
00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 3: That doesn't look like it's for wine.

496
00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: Look at those?

497
00:21:50,599 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 2: Look at these pointing at a man's chest.

498
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,079
Speaker 1: It's muscles. That's a bicep. It's a big one.

499
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,599
Speaker 3: At some point they become boobies when that.

500
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,559
Speaker 2: Look at I mean, we don't need to keep looking

501
00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:04,839
at your wine zines, Mike.

502
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,079
Speaker 1: Look at this. Look at that little person. Nobody cares

503
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,799
like hiking the bottom of the page. Look at this

504
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,480
a vineyard?

505
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,599
Speaker 3: What a weirdo?

506
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: Wine's cool into it?

507
00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:20,079
Speaker 2: Nobody don't at all. I'll take wine over Kingdom Hearts.

508
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 3: But I think it could be cooler, and I also

509
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,240
think that's super fair.

510
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it could. I agree, everything could be cooler.

511
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 3: Number twenty five on your.

512
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Speaker 2: List, it's pretty low.

513
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: That's pretty much you busted out that wine zine to

514
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,920
distract me from your hypocrisy.

515
00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 1: Real piece of your laser focused today. Not expect that.

516
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm not letting you get away with it.

517
00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:47,599
Speaker 2: She recommended you recommended a game and I played it,

518
00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:49,079
so good side.

519
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,279
Speaker 1: Do we want to talk about video games now? Are

520
00:22:51,279 --> 00:22:51,559
we doing?

521
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is transitional and I'll tell

522
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,039
you why. This isn't so much about like what games

523
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,200
we've been playing recently. This is a game I played

524
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,160
last EPI and I was like, I'm actually surprised with

525
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,519
how much I liked it. It was completely shocking and

526
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:08,039
like daring. I think it's a bit controversial, but I

527
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:10,559
think it's I think it's great and I really recommend it.

528
00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:13,799
And it was called my side and I was like,

529
00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:16,240
I don't think Dan will probably play this, but I

530
00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:18,240
was like, I do recommend that Dan play it. And

531
00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:21,359
so when we finished recording the episode, Dan dm me

532
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,559
and said, I actually do have like time, I don't

533
00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:28,240
need to go to bed yet I am feeling it.

534
00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:30,519
So I might stream this game. And I went, oh

535
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:32,519
my god, if you stream this game, I will sit

536
00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:34,279
in chat and I will watch it with you. And

537
00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:37,039
I said, just promise me that you like won't quit immediately.

538
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,359
There are some like wai Fu because that's the that's

539
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,000
like the hook of this game is that it's like

540
00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:44,599
it's it's joking that maybe you're like playing a waif

541
00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:46,720
fu sim game.

542
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: But Dan wouldn't like, but you think that he would

543
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,720
like it. It's about you have.

544
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: To get past that part. So a promise me you'll

545
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,559
at least play like fifteen twenty minutes. And he was like, okay,

546
00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:01,920
well you boots this game up. I don't know, like Dan,

547
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,720
you want to explain your experience. But like I'm in

548
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:08,200
chat the whole time going like, please don't quit, please

549
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:08,880
do not quit.

550
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: I didn't. I went for longer than I said I would.

551
00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:14,079
Speaker 3: You did go for longer than you said you would.

552
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:16,720
There were some risky things, there was also stuff you liked,

553
00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:19,079
like cutting the vegetables, like the oh yeah.

554
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: Like a mini game. Yeah yeah.

555
00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:22,079
Speaker 3: The game has a lot of mini games where like

556
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,680
this wife Fu girl is like, come into this game

557
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:27,839
with me, and you like literally get sucked into the

558
00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:29,799
game and she's like, help me cook, and she's like,

559
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,799
play it. Play a game with me. Play play like

560
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,519
this shitty little like fake console game with me. And

561
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,000
it was funny because you won, even though she's supposed

562
00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:41,519
to get like a lot better at the game, but

563
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:44,319
you actually you're not gonna go easy on. Yeah, you

564
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,240
moved her as yeah, I know what I'm doing. She's cute,

565
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,000
but there were parts where you were like getting really concerned.

566
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,279
I think this one point she was like she was like,

567
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,759
let's go into my bedroom, and you were like, I'm

568
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:02,240
not going to jail, and everyone in chat, myself included,

569
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,240
were like yelling like you have to go into the bedroom.

570
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,599
It's a part of the experience of this game. You're

571
00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:09,680
you're not going to go to jail, like you're not

572
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,799
going to get in trouble. But you were like very

573
00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:17,119
apprehensive because she kept it's the illusion that maybe there's

574
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,119
like something weird or pervy going on, but it doesn't.

575
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,480
Nothing happens. You play this game. You did a good job,

576
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:29,720
and I respect your choices, but my problem here is

577
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,920
like there's this very iconic clip, and I do think

578
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,200
we should clip it of your stream where something is

579
00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:40,400
rattling in her dresser or stand up dresser right, and

580
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,519
it feels not good, like there's something wrong, and she's like,

581
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,920
don't ignore my dresser and play this game with me,

582
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,920
and you're like okay. But everyone, you, the audience, everyone

583
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:53,400
were like looking at the dresser. Something's going on. Why

584
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,039
is it rattling? Why is it shaking? Like, what's going on?

585
00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:58,440
And so you finally stand up and you walk up

586
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,359
to the dresser and you put your hand out to

587
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,160
open it and she gets in the way. She just

588
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,000
stop it. How dare you invade my privacy? That's where

589
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:12,160
I keep my underwear and you shut the game down

590
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,240
without without a second thought.

591
00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:17,279
Speaker 2: I forgot what it was that made me shut the

592
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:18,440
game down. But that checks out.

593
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,759
Speaker 1: That is literally weird.

594
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm here and everyone in chat goes no, no, no,

595
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:26,279
That's that's the moment.

596
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: Where it's not really good.

597
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm not looking at some anime girls underwear. I'm not

598
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,960
doing that. You get a patty wagon that's not having

599
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,200
It's just.

600
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,519
Speaker 3: You don't want it. You don't get yeah, carried away.

601
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:44,799
Speaker 2: You're going to miss no I don't the forty year

602
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,200
old buried man. I'm not looking at the anime and

603
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:47,839
your pants.

604
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: That's what happens when you break the law. The cops

605
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:52,119
come and throw you in a panty wagon.

606
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: No, not it where the phrase comes from? What is

607
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,599
in her dresser that she's hiding? I don't know.

608
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,559
Speaker 2: I got the fuck out of there.

609
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,839
Speaker 3: It's a really big spoiler, but it's kind of where

610
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:03,480
the game takes a dark twist.

611
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: Oh, Dann's stomach some underwear. Yeah.

612
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: The concept of this game is that it starts like

613
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,599
a cute little wife ou sim but it gets really dark,

614
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,599
and that's I think, what's so interesting about it. But

615
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,599
the more I say, the more it spoils all of

616
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:18,359
the twists and turns of this game. So what was

617
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,960
such a bummer is that Dan got through all of

618
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,599
the like mini games of cutting carrots and vegetables and

619
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:27,440
playing games with his like little WIFEU girlfriend, and then

620
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,119
the second she said underwear.

621
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,759
Speaker 2: He was like, ah, look you give me some marioware

622
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:34,960
cooking mom of many games. I'm game to go along

623
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,759
with that. But if you start talking about underpants in

624
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:37,400
an anime game.

625
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: But Princess Peach is like stay away from my undie drawer.

626
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,799
You're like, I hate this game out of ten.

627
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Princess Peach started talking about her pennies, I would

628
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:46,680
disavow Mario.

629
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you jay it.

630
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,759
Speaker 2: I would have major issues at Princess Peach in the

631
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:54,279
Switch to Mario game was like, check out my penties.

632
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:55,880
I'd be like, I don't know what happened to Memoto.

633
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:57,920
This isn't the Miamoto. I know the Switch to.

634
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: Direction that's the launch game next to Mario Kart. Whatever

635
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:06,359
is Princess Peaches panties panty raid.

636
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: To catch them?

637
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:15,759
Speaker 2: Not doing metric for playing the Panty Princess game.

638
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: And the sequel, Jack Off Mario.

639
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:23,559
Speaker 2: Look, if Jack Off Mario is a switch to Launch game,

640
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:24,799
that will be bold in a way.

641
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: I would that they're kind of you know the haptics. Yeah,

642
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:34,839
it's an HD translation and it means something different. Yeah,

643
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:37,640
really translation.

644
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,079
Speaker 3: I have done this in the mini games and enjoyed it.

645
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,559
Speaker 2: But let's check an episode in Mario Party. That's totally innocent.

646
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,960
I'm not whacking off Mario.

647
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,519
Speaker 3: All the time, totally innocent. I think that like we're

648
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,440
skirting a line here, and I don't think her saying

649
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,200
she's gaslighting you. In that scene, she's saying, don't go

650
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:59,440
in there. That's where I keep my panties to prevent

651
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:00,799
you from wanting to go in there.

652
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: It worked.

653
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:05,119
Speaker 2: I would leave, I would leave the facility and call

654
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,119
the police off. That happened.

655
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: But that's how she tricked you, because there was there

656
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:11,160
was something in there that was worth seeing.

657
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't're easy easily manipulated dance.

658
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: She manipulated you, and she she won. I think you

659
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,640
should boot it up again. Manipulated, and I think you

660
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,680
should open up the closet and see what's in there.

661
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: Nope, already on insult. I gave it a shot. I

662
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:26,160
did what I said I was gonna do.

663
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: They burned it in the backyard at FBI.

664
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: I just wanted to let you know that the soon

665
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,920
as she brought up panties, I have deleted this game.

666
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,319
Speaker 2: And I did two rosaries. I called the FBI. I

667
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:37,720
did everything I was supposed to do.

668
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: Dan gets taken to guantanamo because he continues playing the game. Yeah,

669
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,599
people get thrown in there for less.

670
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah.

671
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,799
Speaker 1: Uh let's yeah, let's talk like torture and tariffs and uh.

672
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: Things.

673
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about games? Do you want to talk about

674
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:03,839
the games? All right, we're back. What we're saying, you're

675
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,480
just about to like talk shit about someone because you

676
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,799
didn't know I was coming back yet from the break.

677
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,119
What were we saying, Yeah, yeah, go ahead, tell the people,

678
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:13,119
tell the people, MIKENI Oh no, Mike, I do too.

679
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: He's like one of my favorite people, so do I.

680
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: But you were just talking about him, Mary? What were

681
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:23,799
we saying? All right, so we talked about my side,

682
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,319
I mean the clitoris and that we talked about the clitorists. Okay,

683
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,720
I'm very curious. I have ac Shadows downloaded, Dan, I

684
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,400
believe have you both tried it?

685
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: I've tried it, but I'm only two hours in.

686
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,519
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a decent.

687
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,079
Speaker 3: You're the one, and then I have questions for you

688
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:43,519
because I'm enjoying it so far, but I'm very early in.

689
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to try it.

690
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: I I historically have greatly disliked the Assassin's Creed serious.

691
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:52,559
The only one I liked enough to beat was the

692
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:54,359
second one, and even then I thought that was like,

693
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,200
that's a good eight out of ten game. It kept

694
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,039
my interest. There wasn't a lot else that I wanted

695
00:30:58,039 --> 00:30:59,559
to play at the time. So I don't love it,

696
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:02,480
but it's you know whatever. And I haven't even really

697
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,920
touched the last couple, like just the settings, and it

698
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,359
was like grease and stuff just I don't know big

699
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:09,400
axes and Viking stuff. Didn't that's not really my thing.

700
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:11,440
So this one being like, oh, okay, it's like more

701
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,680
like a like Ninja, you know, Shanobi type stuff. It's like, oh,

702
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,960
I'll give this a try here. It's always liked the

703
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,359
idea of that to like I remember like Tenshu back

704
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:20,599
in the day and being like, oh, I'll just sneak

705
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:23,519
around on rooftops and throw you know, sharrikins and stab people.

706
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:25,680
But I suck at stealth and I've always hated the

707
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,119
assassin's screed style of stealth. There were so many just

708
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,880
like instant fail type shit. And when I started up Shadows,

709
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,279
you know, I always look at the options of everything,

710
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:35,640
got to turn off motion blur on everything. I saw

711
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,920
there was separate difficulty sliders for combat and stealth, and

712
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,680
I was like, oh, okay, cause I like combat and

713
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,319
I'm good at combat. Stealth I don't like it. I'm

714
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:47,119
not good at and so I saw when you bring

715
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,200
it down, it's like, oh, so enemies will take longer

716
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,359
to react to stuff, basically saying like, hey, they're gonna

717
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:53,559
be dumber. You can sneak up on these motherfuckers and

718
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:55,599
just stabbing way easier. And I'm like, that sounds great,

719
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,640
that sounds perfect you.

720
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,519
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just fucking love the guy who doesn't

721
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:02,519
like stealth in his back.

722
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: I heard your solid I heard a million times. But

723
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,079
also I second stealth in the Metal Gear games too.

724
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:12,039
I just like the story up.

725
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:15,559
Speaker 1: That'll not gonna beat it that horse. Sorry.

726
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,119
Speaker 3: I think that Dan is like it's compartmentalizing because he

727
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,480
has PTSD from some kind of wartime trauma, and so

728
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:25,640
he's gotten really good at putting certain parts of his

729
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,480
brain in a box.

730
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,119
Speaker 2: And I don't talk about Korea.

731
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can have thoughts that should not align, and

732
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:35,720
they can both be Dan.

733
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a complex human being. I agree you were

734
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,480
talking about shadows. Stealth has separate sliders. I think Valhalla

735
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:46,559
and Odyssey had that as well.

736
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:50,119
Speaker 2: Okay, but those seemed especially boring even for Assassin's screen

737
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,000
like the setting. I just I just something about the

738
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,559
big axes and ship like I'm sure you can get

739
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,400
swords and stuff. I don't know that just Viking.

740
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: Ship and all that Valhalla specifically. Sure he was grease,

741
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,880
completely different millennium.

742
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Probably it's their neighbors, Like I don't know the same

743
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,480
thing analization from.

744
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,559
Speaker 1: Nasty neighbors in any sense time or geographically.

745
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,599
Speaker 2: History major, Yeah, I'm sure they're wine Field didn't interlink.

746
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,839
Speaker 1: I'm not a history major. I just played both games,

747
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,079
not talking.

748
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,119
Speaker 2: Out of my ass because I don't know what I'm

749
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:21,160
talking about.

750
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: One of his books back there gave all this insight.

751
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:26,279
Speaker 2: Yep, I guess I'm just trying to say that Ninjas

752
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:29,119
seem cool, yes, and the other stuff didn't seem cool tonight.

753
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree Ninjas and US is samurai correct?

754
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:34,119
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, And like I played ten hours, and like

755
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,359
I played as the guy for like the very beginning,

756
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,240
and then you switch to the Ninja lady very quickly,

757
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:41,519
and it's like, oh man, hell, I'm super mobile, and

758
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:43,200
like I got this grappling hook, and like it actually

759
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400
felt really good. Like I used to hate the climbing

760
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,160
mechanics of Assassin's Creed. I felt like that just the

761
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,039
controls never did exactly what you want them to do.

762
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,240
I'd hop off buildings without meaning to and all this shit.

763
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,000
It all just works the way you want to do here.

764
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,039
It's just like, okay, hold forward an X and you're

765
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:56,960
gonna do a bunch of cool hopping up climbing stuff

766
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,279
and grappling, hook swing. All that stuff all felt great.

767
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,200
Stabbing dudes awesome. A lot of good physics stuff, like

768
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,920
all the destructible like boxes and bamboo and stuff. Everything

769
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,319
was just kind of like tickling my brain in the

770
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,119
right way. It's like, oh shit, I might actually like

771
00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:09,559
like this Assassin' Screed game.

772
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:15,039
Speaker 3: And the slicing of the uh there's like baskets of stuff,

773
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:17,719
and when you're killing people with your samurai sword, if

774
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,599
you slice through a basket, slices down at this like

775
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,159
fun angle, like it really was sliced with a sword,

776
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,760
not you know what I mean. It doesn't just cut

777
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,679
in half or explode. It looks sliced through with a sword.

778
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,800
It's but that's fun like that in the little details

779
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,480
to make you feel like you're throwing a sword around totally.

780
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: Like there's those little satisfying things that just like you

781
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,159
wouldn't expect, not like a scripted thing. It's just like,

782
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,440
oh man, okay, I just dove through this paper door

783
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,039
and stabbed a dude, and like that type of shit's

784
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,440
really fun. And then there were stuff I was really

785
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,119
appreciating too, where it's like I would just be running

786
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,679
around exploring and I would see like some dudes that

787
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,679
had like enemy health bars, and I don't even kill

788
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,119
these dudes, don't know what their deal is, and I

789
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:54,599
would kill them and it would do the big like

790
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:58,480
flourish where it's like you killed this high ranking guy

791
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:00,480
that it helped murder your family or what ever. It's like,

792
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,119
oh shit, and to the like objective screen, and it wasn't.

793
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:06,639
I wasn't even like tracking a quest. I just found

794
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:08,599
a dude and he looked evil and I killed him,

795
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:10,239
and I was like, oh shit, that's awesome. And it

796
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:10,880
reminded me of.

797
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: Like mercenary to kill everybody, you know, Oh, I was

798
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,480
just killing everyone.

799
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: There is that that sounds almost like the fact that

800
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:20,039
there was supposed to be this gravitas around the kill

801
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:21,679
and there wasn't almost sounds bad.

802
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: No, I think it's awesome because it's like I like

803
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,199
that about an open world game where it's like, sure

804
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,239
you can follow the quest and everything and get all

805
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,079
the story stuff and then wind up killing him. But

806
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,519
in real life, like you know, sometimes you just run

807
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,800
across an evil guy and well, I guess that doesn't

808
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,400
happen in real life.

809
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,559
Speaker 1: But I think parents is my point. Okay, no, no, no, right,

810
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,639
I'm really not trying to show on this. I I like,

811
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:42,480
I'm excited to play this and I've played every single

812
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,400
Assassin's Creed, every single one. I love this series.

813
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: But do you play like Mercenaries Playground of Destruction?

814
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: Have I played Mercenaries player? I am Mercenary? Have I? Okay?

815
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I figured it seems like a my game. Okay, yeah,

816
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,719
all right, So what you know the Deck of fifty

817
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,480
two thing, and it's like the same thing. You could

818
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,159
be like just driving around the mountains or in a

819
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:04,639
helicopter's like oh shit, there's the Jack of Spades and

820
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:06,159
you go down there and you crash a helicopter in

821
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,440
his head and kill them. That they gave me that

822
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:10,360
type of feeling like I can just find these guys

823
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,559
in the world and kill them.

824
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:12,039
Speaker 1: That's good.

825
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's that's all to say that. Like

826
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,360
for the opening hours, there was just a lot of

827
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,960
stuff that I was like, oh shit, this is clever,

828
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:18,960
this is cool, like it's clearly a very well made game.

829
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,119
But I also was knowing the whole time that like, oh,

830
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:24,159
as soon as something comes along, like right now, I'm

831
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:25,960
not I don't have any new games I'm playing. Really,

832
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:28,920
as soon as something does come around, I'm gonna probably

833
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,519
drop this and fall off and not come back, like

834
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:32,559
I wasn't hooked on that level. And sure enough, this

835
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:34,440
game that we'll talk about on the next episode came along,

836
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,840
and I was like, well, this is all I'm playing now,

837
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:39,599
and I look back at it now and it's like, yes,

838
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:41,599
I do think Shadows is one of the best assassin's

839
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:43,719
screens I've played. But at the same time, a lot

840
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,679
of the stuff I don't like about the series, namely

841
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,159
it's just dry and boring, and like I don't give

842
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:50,320
a fuck about any of these characters or anytime there's

843
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,039
a cut scene, it's just like, these are the most

844
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,800
boring fucking characters I can imagine, even though Ninja's are

845
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,400
cool and the setting's cool and everything, it's just like, uh,

846
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,519
like I hated the voice acting, the English voice acting,

847
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:02,719
and then I switched it to immersive mode, which is

848
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,679
like a mix of the actual like Portuguese and Japanese

849
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:06,639
and stuff, and that helped a lot, But like still,

850
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:09,039
the actual story and the characters were just boring me

851
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:11,599
to tears. So I don't know if I'll be going back,

852
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,360
but I will say that like I did not I'm

853
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,719
not even saying I didn't hate it. I'm gonna say

854
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,199
I did enjoy it. I think it's a good game.

855
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,119
I just don't think I'm gonna go back to it.

856
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: Are they doing a good job of encouraging you to

857
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,159
play as both characters? Are you just sticking to that

858
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:25,079
come back?

859
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: I've only had I saw the guy at the very beginning,

860
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,639
during like a tutorial, and then I've been now a

861
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,199
or you know, the girl for like eight plus hours

862
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:36,599
and has not even mentioned the dude again. I can't

863
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,199
It's not a GTA swap back to him type thing yet.

864
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,480
I don't know. Maybe he does want to go back

865
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:40,719
to them.

866
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I liked I love Assassin's Creed Syndicate the

867
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,400
London Industrial Revolution one with Jacob and Evie brother and sister.

868
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,000
That was super cool because you could.

869
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,639
Speaker 3: Choose which story you were watching based on which one

870
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:52,960
you were swapping too, and.

871
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: That that was more of a case of they both

872
00:37:56,159 --> 00:37:59,320
function the same way. Their animations were just very different.

873
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,480
He was more brute forest brass knuckle kind of stuff.

874
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:06,079
She was like acrobatic and stab in between specific ribs

875
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,599
kind of fighting. But I was curious. I had seen

876
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:13,000
in previews that use the case, for instance, cannot crawl

877
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:18,079
through small holes like she can. Have you encountered artificial

878
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,360
stuff like that? That's like, oh, he can't do this

879
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:21,639
very menial thing.

880
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: Hard to say considering I haven't played at them, or rather.

881
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: I guess in your case, have you seen anything that

882
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,400
she can't do that he supposedly can?

883
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,639
Speaker 3: I know that she can. Can he grapple because when

884
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:35,360
we played is Him, all he did was fight sequences,

885
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,159
And she's the one who is acrobatic and has the

886
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:41,280
grapple and the ability to like tiptoe and like swan

887
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,400
dive and stuff like that. So I would be surprised

888
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,039
if they have a grapple for him, But maybe they do,

889
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,400
oh like the grappling.

890
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 2: Hook then yeah, oh yeah.

891
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: It's like her thing is silent Assassin. That's like her

892
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,800
whole mobile bag and every time we play him, it's

893
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,199
like you're in so you're in war, can't go kill

894
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,559
all these people? Well, and you just throw your sword around.

895
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: Like maces and shit, too right, I've seen he gets

896
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,079
like these like long sticks.

897
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: Later on, Yeah, he has heavier and I think he's

898
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,119
like more about there's like a perry system and stuff

899
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:11,760
to make sure that.

900
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

901
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: But what I found was interesting is like when you're

902
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,679
when you're doing combat as him, it's like, here's how

903
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,079
you perry, here's like how you dodge. Just make sure.

904
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,880
And then as soon as you play as her, they

905
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,199
were like, if you see this red light, that means

906
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,599
it's an unpariable right attack, you have to dodge it.

907
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:31,400
And that was not shown with the guy.

908
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: So he's more brude force like and yeah, yeah, okay.

909
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I I but today point we haven't. We

910
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,679
haven't played as I swear. You play as the guy

911
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,480
for like the first thirty minutes and you kill a

912
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:45,840
bunch of people, and then I played as the girl

913
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,679
the rest of the time, and I really liked her.

914
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,920
But she has a totally different combat style and she's

915
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,599
much more focused on, you know, dance up this wall,

916
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,039
get behind them, and then stab them in the neck,

917
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:57,519
and that's what she'd like, that's her thing.

918
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: But you you sorry if you said this already. Have

919
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:03,320
either of you gotten to the point where you can

920
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,039
switch at will if you want.

921
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: To help you? No, I literally have not seen the guys.

922
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,280
The first thirty minutes.

923
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: I thought you were doing that choice.

924
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,119
Speaker 2: No I did. Yeah, the game has not acknowledged that man.

925
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: For like Tanna, it's all about her and her mask journey.

926
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:18,960
She's trying to get this mask. She's very upset about it.

927
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,000
Every time she's riding her horse, they always add in,

928
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,280
you know, dead in the little horse pieces of Oh

929
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,000
the horse is actually quite effective. You are fast on

930
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,199
this horse. It's really fun to to be able to

931
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,760
ride a horse. But when you're riding a distance, they'll

932
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,679
always say something and she's always like, I've got to

933
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,440
get that mask back, and it's just like I know

934
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,280
I'm the one who's playing this. Usually when there's like

935
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,079
a dialogue in horse riding in a game, it's to

936
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,280
add color commentary, right like between characters that you can

937
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,360
learn more about them and their hat past and their

938
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,239
history or like their dynamic. But in this game, her

939
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,360
her horse commentary is like as I have said previously,

940
00:40:57,679 --> 00:40:59,840
I have to get this mask back. It's very important.

941
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,400
It's like, yeah, I fucking know.

942
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:06,119
Speaker 2: That I don't a mask at all. What I thought

943
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:07,559
they just like killed your dad or something.

944
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: The moon's falling to Earth and you got three days

945
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,400
to beat the game.

946
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: Oh I see. Yeah, I was gonna say, Oh, I

947
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,880
wonder if they're not saying it as much with me,

948
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,000
or if I just forgot. I probably just forgot.

949
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 3: It's the second at Yeah, you're probably like, we're looking

950
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,039
at you know, blue sky, and then the cut scene

951
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,400
had ended, and you like the game.

952
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:31,559
Speaker 1: I'm so popular.

953
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: No, I'm not a phone game guy. I'm really not.

954
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: No, I know, to your credit, you you don't. You're

955
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,960
not like a on listening to podcasts while you watch movies.

956
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,639
You're very attentive with with movies, but with games.

957
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Actually, honestly, with with this that was so boring, and

958
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,280
I did give such zero ships about the story that

959
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,679
I did wind up like listening to podcasts and stuff

960
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,840
and just running around, jumping up buildings and finding treasure

961
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,400
chests and stuff.

962
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: I do like jumping around, though. I think I think

963
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,880
it is a really well made The scene I played

964
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,960
with the girl, which is by the way to get

965
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,360
the mask back. It's the very first thing you do

966
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,960
with her. Dnne Okay, well, I think it was extremely

967
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,480
well designed. The space was designed for you to play

968
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,320
and be able to like hop, skip and jump your

969
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,400
way through the building. That feels good to you. I

970
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,000
don't think it was obvious. There's always like this commentary

971
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,639
about like white paint, right like like where you want

972
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,000
them to go. S game does not do that, but

973
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:39,119
it uses really good visual cues where it's like, so

974
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,280
when you get to the first building, there's two giant

975
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,400
guards of the building that are like, you're not coming

976
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,920
in here, and it's like, okay, I guess I'm not

977
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,559
going in there. And so you look around the building

978
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,039
and there's just these boards against the building, and it's like,

979
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,960
I'm a ninja. I bet I can run against those boards. Again,

980
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,679
there's no white paint. There's nothing like very glaringly obvious.

981
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,639
It's just a visual cue that I think is for

982
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,199
the average gamer. You're gonna be like, I'm a ninja,

983
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:05,760
I bet I can do that, and sure is shit,

984
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,239
you absolutely can. There'll be these pillars throughout the location

985
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,960
where it's like, again there's no color or like lighting cues.

986
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:18,800
It's just you're a ninja. I bet I could jump

987
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,440
from pillar to pillar really delicately, and sure, is shit,

988
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:28,199
you absolutely can. It gave you really nice, delicate ways

989
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,199
of guiding you through the space, but did not feel forced,

990
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:32,760
didn't feel like it was telling me what to do.

991
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,360
I just felt like I was playing in the space

992
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,920
and being really cool, fun ninja the whole time. I

993
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,119
think they I think they handled that first area like

994
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:42,559
it was designed impeccable, and.

995
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:44,159
Speaker 2: They had that across the whole open world, Like I

996
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:46,719
remember having that thought when there's like these big pirate

997
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,559
ships in the ocean. I don't know if you went there,

998
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:50,320
but like you can climb on you can climb up

999
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,440
to the very top of these masks and all this stuff,

1000
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,960
and the pirate ships are conveniently close enough to where

1001
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,639
you could jump from like the top of a mask

1002
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,559
onto like you know, the board on another one. And

1003
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:00,480
it's like but like Mary said, it's not like, hey,

1004
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:02,440
check you should jump from ship to ship. It's just like, oh,

1005
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,000
I bet I could, And then it's like, yep, all right,

1006
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,760
I thought of that. That's cool. Like the park corset

1007
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,280
does feel pretty great in this game.

1008
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:11,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's been constructed in a way

1009
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:14,519
that for the first time in a long time, I

1010
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:18,559
feel like it's encouraging you to play with the space

1011
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:20,960
design and run around like a fun little ninja that

1012
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,320
you are. I did not want to be discovered. One

1013
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,519
time I was accidentally discovered, and I actually I restarted

1014
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:28,320
because I was like, I don't want to fight my

1015
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,519
way through this space. It is more fun for me

1016
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:35,000
to acrobatically dance around this space. And that really was

1017
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:38,760
a joy for me to just like run around and

1018
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,559
use my zip line or whatever it is I could

1019
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:43,880
to like get through the different areas, and it does

1020
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,719
encourage you. There'll be some cues. One of them was like, hey,

1021
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:49,880
you'll be able to see people better if you get

1022
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,840
to a high advantage point. So I was like, all right,

1023
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,119
if you look around the space just like the ship,

1024
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,400
you will find the highest piece of wood that they

1025
00:44:57,519 --> 00:44:59,840
want you to clearly climb. And then they have a

1026
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,599
bagging system just like metal gear. We can like tag

1027
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:05,760
all the enemies so that you know where it ought

1028
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,599
to go. Because you'll be discovered once you do all

1029
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:12,800
that stuff. I feel like they've given you enough tools

1030
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,920
where you can be sneaky. I did not alter the

1031
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,960
game's settings, and I figured it out, like I don't

1032
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,920
think I'm the most sneaky person either, Dan, And they

1033
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,840
gave me enough where I could do it without getting discovered,

1034
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,440
and that felt really good for me.

1035
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:32,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I appreciate the level of like accessibility stuff

1036
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:35,119
and you know, just combat and like the options, Like

1037
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,360
more options are never a bad thing, And I was

1038
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,159
impressed at the suite they give you in this.

1039
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: I agree. I think people are really liking it. I'm

1040
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,199
gonna be playing it some more. It's kind of taken

1041
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,559
place of a vowed right now for me because it's

1042
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:49,719
it's my console game of choice. Right now I'm gonna play.

1043
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,360
I'm gonna play a lot more of it. I owe

1044
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,000
a lot more of it, and I am looking forward

1045
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:53,280
to it.

1046
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: Uh, Elephant in the room. Yeah, I think there's like

1047
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,159
discourse online going around about oh, like Ghost of Sushima

1048
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:05,360
already did this. Better half of me is like, I

1049
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,599
think they kind of shot themselves in the foot. You'd

1050
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:10,119
be soft way back in the day when Alex Hutchinson

1051
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,800
was like, oh Japan's too obvious or whatever, Like I

1052
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:17,119
think that sets them back of it too obvious. But

1053
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,800
also I think there's more room. There's room enough for

1054
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,039
more than one open world game.

1055
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: So different to me too, Like I.

1056
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,039
Speaker 1: Love, for the record, I love Ghost Sushima, and I'm

1057
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:30,920
not saying I can't enjoy this as well. I'm saying,

1058
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,159
is there any like it does it's doing, it's separating

1059
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:36,199
itself from that different I.

1060
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: Mean, there's a lot of just Assassin screed shit in

1061
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,360
this where it's like you were climbing tall temples and

1062
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,599
stuff like that that like, you know, I don't remember

1063
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:46,840
the amount of like vertical mobility in Sushima that this has.

1064
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,159
Speaker 1: It's more for sure.

1065
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, It's just it's got a different vibe to it.

1066
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:54,719
I think, I I think I probably prefer Sushima. But yeah,

1067
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,519
it doesn't. This doesn't feel like, oh, it's just another

1068
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:57,159
one of those.

1069
00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: Cool I Like I said, I could very well like

1070
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,599
them both. I'm going to play Shadows tonight if I

1071
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:05,559
get time, because I really like I like Assassin's Creed.

1072
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:07,440
I've been There's even been titles I've kind of been

1073
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,519
an apologist about. I did not like val HeLa whatsoever.

1074
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:13,079
I got bored to death. I liked Odyssey, but it

1075
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:17,920
got overloaded activities. Bloated Origins is my favorite Assassin's creed

1076
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,360
of all time, So like, I'm curious to see what

1077
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,719
they do with this new chapter.

1078
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:25,039
Speaker 3: While we're comparing two games, do you mind if I

1079
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:27,519
transition to a game that I keep comparing to another game?

1080
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: Go for it?

1081
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: So I'm finally playing. I think it's called split Back Sweciction.

1082
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1083
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wrote it as split Faction because I cannot remember.

1084
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember the game I read that.

1085
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,599
I was like, wait, what the fuck is the name?

1086
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:42,320
I know that's wrong.

1087
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: It's such a memorable title. So Dan, you played this

1088
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:49,599
last EPI and you were talking about how you were

1089
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:53,039
actually really enjoying it. You played as pigs who fart

1090
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:55,719
and stuff like that, and you said it was like

1091
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,199
really creative. So I was excited about it. So I

1092
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,480
also got this game and have been playing it. I

1093
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:05,639
have to be three fourths through this game. I feel

1094
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,039
very feel like I've almost beaten this game. Have you

1095
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:11,800
beaten the game? I'm just curious, Like what, No.

1096
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:14,079
Speaker 2: Bonk was a GDC for like a week, so we

1097
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:15,599
had to take you know, I don't think i've played

1098
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:16,960
since last time I talked about it. We are going

1099
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,360
to go back to it. But yeah, yeah, you're beyond

1100
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,000
me at this point.

1101
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:24,119
Speaker 3: Oh okay, great, Well, I just I've had a little bit

1102
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:27,440
of a different experience than you. I I do think

1103
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,360
that it is creative, and I think it's really interesting

1104
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,119
that you can play in lots of different spaces, Like

1105
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,079
you're in sci fi. Then you're like in this like

1106
00:48:33,199 --> 00:48:37,360
magical farm with giant vegetables that is actually quite cute.

1107
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,519
I got to this area with like giant giants and

1108
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:43,639
you're running between their hands, so they like come and

1109
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:45,880
scoop you up with their fingers and you like jump

1110
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,320
between giants, which it visually looks cool. And right now

1111
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,920
I'm in a fantasy area where like I'm a fairy

1112
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:55,880
and the other person is like a I'm going to say,

1113
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,760
like a sea otter, and so like they're doing stuff

1114
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,440
in the water and I can fairy around half fly,

1115
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,400
I guess.

1116
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: And just the one where there's like the bamboo things

1117
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,039
and like the ocean thing can like move you while

1118
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:09,719
you're holding out of the bamboo and you're going through

1119
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,280
a river. Does that sound familiar?

1120
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 3: It's I don't know if I'm seeing I don't know

1121
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,239
if I can place exactly what you're visually saying. But

1122
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,079
there is a point where, like the otter is like

1123
00:49:18,639 --> 00:49:21,119
moving my stuff in the water so that I can

1124
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:25,079
get past brambles and like nets and like stuff. I

1125
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:27,960
don't think it's an ocean, it's it's like an underwater cave.

1126
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,239
So okay, okay, anyway, I think there's some really cool,

1127
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,679
interesting stuff that this game is doing. I do really

1128
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,800
like that you can play into very different environments, right

1129
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:43,440
like sci fi changing it up to fantasy. It helps

1130
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,000
with our attention spans that every time I'm like okay,

1131
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:51,320
I feel like I've seen enough of this future dystopia

1132
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,360
that it shoves me into a different world. So I

1133
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,840
think that is nice. But I think I'm a bit

1134
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,440
of a hater because this aime isn't really doing any

1135
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,320
of these areas extremely well. I think because we're playing

1136
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,079
in these areas for a short period of time, by

1137
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:13,320
the time you really recognize that there's invisible walls everywhere,

1138
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,320
that it's kind of janky that you could like fall

1139
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,079
through the tomatoes or like the game doesn't want you

1140
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:21,960
to do very specific things, and the mechanically you're very limited.

1141
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,719
It's telling you literally what to do in every scene.

1142
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,559
By the time you're like okay, I I feel like

1143
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:30,880
I've seen it, they shove you in a new environment

1144
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:33,760
that you get to explore and think, I think it's

1145
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,880
tricking you into thinking that you have a lot of

1146
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,800
agency in this space, but you literally have none.

1147
00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: I guess Devil's advocate on that point, because like, I

1148
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,880
do agree with you in that, like it is very simple,

1149
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,119
Like the controls are very much like, Okay, in this area,

1150
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:49,360
you have you know, your R two does this, and

1151
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,239
then you can just basically jump and dash. You know,

1152
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,960
there's not a lot complicating going on. But I have

1153
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,920
to think that that would be kind of by design,

1154
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:58,119
considering it's supposed to be a game that, like you

1155
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,400
have to play co op and I'm a lot of

1156
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,559
people are bringing in friends or significant others and stuff

1157
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,000
that are not maybe normally wouldn't play games, would be like, oh,

1158
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,119
let's play this game together. And like, I think the

1159
00:51:08,199 --> 00:51:10,960
kind of simplified controls and stuff probably help with that.

1160
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,639
But it doesn't mean you're wrong about what you're saying there.

1161
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:16,480
Like it is, it's not a complicated game by any means.

1162
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,320
It's just kind of a roller coaster ride of just

1163
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,199
like now this, now, this is happening. Now that's happening.

1164
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: Don't forget to shoot the balloons. Yeah, like it's it's

1165
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,840
constantly telling you what to do, so you feel really

1166
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,079
busy and really valued both players at any skill level,

1167
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,320
And I will, I will acknowledge I think you are

1168
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,280
right that I think this is for lots of people

1169
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,559
at varying skill levels, so that you could play this

1170
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:39,000
with your younger brother, you could play this with like

1171
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,440
your girlfriend who like kind of is cool with your game,

1172
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:46,519
you know, hobby, but might not really want to play this,

1173
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:48,559
and you're like, this is a good in. I think

1174
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:51,320
this is a good in as someone who like plays

1175
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,599
a lot of games and gets a thrill out of

1176
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:56,360
being able to play a game with another person co op.

1177
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,639
I think that there are other games that do this

1178
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:03,000
so tr tremendously better. That it's just a bit of

1179
00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:06,920
a bummer to play this and have these very simple

1180
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,639
puzzle designs spoon fed to me in between like kind

1181
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,760
of gimmicky spaces where I don't actually get the full

1182
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,199
breath of being able to play and enjoy. I think

1183
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:20,639
that Portal two walked so that this game.

1184
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: Could crawl interesting.

1185
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there are other games that are doing

1186
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,239
it way better, and I.

1187
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:29,079
Speaker 2: Think it's a bummert. I definitely prefer Portal too.

1188
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: It's a fucking decade old, you know what I mean.

1189
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,400
Like this, we keep saying like, can you believe this

1190
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:37,320
games for two people? And I'm like, yeah, I actually can.

1191
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:40,360
There's a lot of games that do that. So, like,

1192
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,239
I don't think it's like this extraordinary innovative thing. I

1193
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,840
think that the idea that this game is getting this

1194
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,920
high praise for doing it. Maybe it's because it's doing

1195
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,280
it in such a handholdy way that we feel like

1196
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:59,559
everyone can participate and partake. But I think maybe it's hook.

1197
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: I think the thing is that that couch co op,

1198
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,800
which people misuse that term all the time. They think

1199
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,840
it's any time it's the same room. It's not co op. No,

1200
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,000
this is legitimately, couch co op is not a thing

1201
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:13,039
as much anymore. He used to so be a thing,

1202
00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:14,519
you know, all through the eight and sixteen bit and

1203
00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:16,760
beyond era, Like there is so much that And I

1204
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,920
think since you kind of got online games and stuff

1205
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,039
like that, and you know, multiplayer shooters and all that stuff,

1206
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,440
I think the idea of multiplayer is less. Oh I'm

1207
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,920
sitting down and playing. Contrast my friend on the same couch.

1208
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,519
I think it is almost a throwback to like, okay,

1209
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:30,199
me and my friend or me and my wife are

1210
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:32,760
sitting on the couch playing together. And I think that's

1211
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,599
why it's gotten so much attention, because it is. It's

1212
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:36,840
doing it very well at like a high level, you know,

1213
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,280
production wise, and there's just not a lot. I everything

1214
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,920
you're saying is true. I mean, I don't think it.

1215
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: Is compared to the other games of its magnitude. I

1216
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,920
think that if you want to play a game with

1217
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,199
your little niece who's not very good at games, I

1218
00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:54,239
would recommend ray Man Legends, which is extremely good for

1219
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,320
both levels of play and is extraordinary designed to have

1220
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,239
co opic experiences with other people where you can have fun.

1221
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:04,480
I think that there are like Mario games that do

1222
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:05,840
us extraordinarily better.

1223
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 2: But even like Raymond Legends, you know, like that was

1224
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,280
over a decade ago. I think, you know, so that

1225
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,320
that's all just that's right. I don't think there's.

1226
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: Been so much room for improvement in a decade. I

1227
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,920
I just I think I am disappointed that, like the

1228
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,760
fact that they're making these So Okay, I hear your point.

1229
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,960
I think what I'm saying is is like this game

1230
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,239
is getting a lot of praise that it's doing something

1231
00:54:26,679 --> 00:54:29,159
that games aren't doing anymore, which I think means there

1232
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,760
is a hole in the market for co op games

1233
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,960
that we should be filling.

1234
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: I agree.

1235
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 3: I am in agreement with that. I would love way

1236
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,639
more co op games to be in the market. I

1237
00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:41,760
think that this game is like really limited with what

1238
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,519
it's doing, but I can see why everybody's obsessed with it,

1239
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:46,440
and I think it's because it's doing something that everybody

1240
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,599
wishes they could be doing more with their friends, which

1241
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:50,800
is just like playing games together and enjoying like a

1242
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,519
nice co op experience.

1243
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:54,559
Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, I think that's totally fair.

1244
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: Okay, that's it.

1245
00:54:56,119 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: That's my ultimate way. Yeah, I'm not like, you know,

1246
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,559
I think it's a very really.

1247
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,119
Speaker 3: The story sucks and they're acting as such. Sorry, I

1248
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:08,760
don't think it's they're acting. I think the writing is

1249
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,840
like so exhausting. They fucking did it again. Instead of

1250
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,239
having two people who are getting a divorce, which is

1251
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,039
like Jesus Christ, dude, now it's two women who have

1252
00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:21,280
complete opposite writing styles and don't respect each other, and

1253
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,079
so you know, they'll be in one of their worlds

1254
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:26,480
and the other one will be like you wrote this,

1255
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:29,280
like are you okay, and it's just like, okay, well,

1256
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,800
I don't like her for saying that. And then they'll

1257
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,199
be in the other girls world and she'll be like, hey,

1258
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,760
did you write this about like needing to owe money

1259
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,719
because something's going on in your real life? And the

1260
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,320
girl's like, no, no, I don't know anybody money, And

1261
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,599
it's just like, that's fucked up that both of these characters.

1262
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:48,039
It's fucked up that you wrote.

1263
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: That that, Like do you live in the country, you idiot?

1264
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: You live in you idiot.

1265
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like country bumpkin versus like city girl who

1266
00:55:56,519 --> 00:55:59,480
owes money to a financial investor or something like that.

1267
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:01,840
And it's so obvious what they're doing, but.

1268
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:05,599
Speaker 2: It's incredibly on the nose and obvious. And yeah, I

1269
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,079
will not defend the writing at all. I just yeah,

1270
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:10,039
it's just that roller coaster co op thing. I do

1271
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:11,880
like it a lot, but I'm also not going to like,

1272
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,920
you know, die on the split fiction hill or anything

1273
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,199
like that, like be my top ten or anything.

1274
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,519
Speaker 3: I'm gonna complete it. I think it's I think it's

1275
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:20,840
doing its job, and I do enjoy playing with other people.

1276
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,280
I think this is going to be just like the

1277
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,400
other one, where it's like I suspect that this is

1278
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,960
going to be like one of these things where everyone's like,

1279
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,840
this is a game of a generation, everybody needs to

1280
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,079
play this, and I'm like, I don't. I don't agree.

1281
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,000
I don't think this is like super monumental. I think

1282
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:35,679
it's showing us. And now, like with this conversation, I

1283
00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:37,880
feel really confident in saying like this is just showing

1284
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,519
us that there's a gap in the market. We should

1285
00:56:39,519 --> 00:56:42,400
be making more games that we can enjoy playing with

1286
00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:45,800
our buds casually on a couch. But like Jesus, can

1287
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,360
someone else try this one? But Joseph, I I do

1288
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,199
think he does a decent job at it. I just

1289
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:55,280
think I think that the amount of value we're placing

1290
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,880
in these games is too damn high.

1291
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,599
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm totally with you, and like it takes too

1292
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:01,880
I had a lot of fun ideas and stuff, but

1293
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,599
by the end, Bunk and I were like, all right,

1294
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,280
this is going on too long. And then like when

1295
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,039
one Game of the Year and stuff like, oh boy,

1296
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:08,719
that was fun for a bit, but that is a

1297
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,079
game of the year, is crazy, you know.

1298
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all had the same reaction to It Takes two,

1299
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,440
which was like, that was a great experience. It ain't

1300
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:21,800
gonna be in our top ten. Yeah, same, Yeah.

1301
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,079
Speaker 2: No, I think we were closer than a may seem

1302
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:24,960
on our opinion on this.

1303
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's et.

1304
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: Et for the Atari twenty six? Based on the Steven

1305
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,920
Spielberg film Transition?

1306
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,079
Speaker 3: Wait, the original et from like thteen Dickity two.

1307
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,159
Speaker 2: Yep, the one that was so bad and they had

1308
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:47,119
to bury it in a landfill. Famously, it's stuck in

1309
00:57:47,159 --> 00:57:50,360
like a hole? Right, oh, so many holes. I got

1310
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,000
stuck in a billion holes. Well, it started as a

1311
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,639
Blake club game, and I'd beat.

1312
00:57:56,519 --> 00:57:58,079
Speaker 1: Those who don't know that is the Giant Bomb Show

1313
00:57:58,079 --> 00:57:59,519
where they like just play.

1314
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,159
Speaker 2: The worst games of all time. Yeah, and I got

1315
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:06,760
stuck with e T. It's the worst game I've ever beaten, for.

1316
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: Sure, No, you beat it.

1317
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,039
Speaker 1: It is.

1318
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:11,719
Speaker 2: It's very short. It's just it's impossible to figure out

1319
00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:13,280
what the fuck you're supposed to do, and you're just

1320
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,119
non stop falling into holes and it sucks ass. It

1321
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:17,719
looks like shit, it's an old.

1322
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: Titar game emulated emulator or did you play it on?

1323
00:58:20,639 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: I played through Grubbs sent me one of those Atari

1324
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,599
twenty six D like the new It's basically like the

1325
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:27,079
NES classic where you're like HD. So I played with

1326
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:30,079
an Atari joystick. Okay, I played on the actual cart

1327
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:31,960
so I. Actually it wasn't emulated. It was the cart

1328
00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:36,559
of ET. It is a piece of shit. Uh fast forward?

1329
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,360
Uh you know, six five or six days after that

1330
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,519
Blake Club episode, I am currently the number ten speed

1331
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:45,559
runner of that game in the world.

1332
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:54,639
Speaker 3: What nobody else wants to play it? I finish this game.

1333
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: There's not a ton but I am number ten in

1334
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,599
the world at speed running ET. I did.

1335
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:01,239
Speaker 1: Going on that and move up.

1336
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:03,679
Speaker 2: I don't intend to play.

1337
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: The game some more?

1338
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: Are you? I know? I did? I did.

1339
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: It's not good, but it's a funny thing to me

1340
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:11,639
to be one of the ten best in the world

1341
00:59:11,639 --> 00:59:15,320
at So that's where I'm at now with ET the Extraterrestrial.

1342
00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:16,639
Speaker 3: How long is it to be?

1343
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: My last time was under two minutes. Oh oh yeah,

1344
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,239
one minute forty three seconds is my number ten world?

1345
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:27,719
Speaker 1: How did you fill the number one?

1346
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: Number one is let me see the percent know RNG

1347
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:37,079
manipulation leader board is fifty nine seconds, so only one

1348
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:38,679
person in the world is done under a minute.

1349
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,559
Speaker 3: Oh you could do that.

1350
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: You should do this fucking game.

1351
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,239
Speaker 3: It's not my time.

1352
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there, get in there, sop it up. Fucking like

1353
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,280
how I don't fully understand how you even beat in

1354
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:56,920
two minutes.

1355
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:01,079
Speaker 2: It's just very random. There's like six map screens and

1356
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:02,920
you have to go around and not fall in holes,

1357
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,239
which is the hardest part, and then you have to

1358
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,239
like randomized you have to get three pieces of your

1359
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:09,559
fucking phone and you have to e T phone home,

1360
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,280
but then you have to like to call the spaceship.

1361
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,760
There can't be any other characters on the screen, so

1362
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,639
that's just random basically. And then when the clock counts

1363
01:00:18,639 --> 01:00:20,920
down for the spaceship to come down, it will only

1364
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,639
come down if there's no other characters on the screen.

1365
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:25,360
So it's a lot of just like randomly finding these

1366
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,119
three phone pieces and then hoping there aren't an FBI

1367
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:30,079
agent or a scientist on the screen when the spaceship

1368
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:31,119
comes down. It fucking sucks.

1369
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,079
Speaker 1: So that leaderboy that says no RANG manipulation, do they

1370
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:37,079
just mean they didn't just restart immediately when they got

1371
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:39,039
a bad No, you can do that.

1372
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:42,639
Speaker 2: But the thing is, you can guarantee the same layout

1373
01:00:42,679 --> 01:00:45,400
of where the phone pieces are if you start the

1374
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,480
first frame when the game starts up. So if you

1375
01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:49,639
turn on the atari wire like holding in the button,

1376
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,079
you can guarantee the same seed each time. So it's like,

1377
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:54,880
I know this piece is here, this piece is here,

1378
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,079
this piece is here. So you can't do that for

1379
01:00:57,159 --> 01:00:58,400
the leader ward, I'm on, how do.

1380
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,079
Speaker 3: You know that that guy didn't do it?

1381
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:00,559
Speaker 1: You think?

1382
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:02,559
Speaker 2: I mean, all the videos have to be on speed

1383
01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:04,559
run dot com so you can see, like if it's

1384
01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:07,440
on the title screen for even half a second, again,

1385
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,840
they're not doing or org.

1386
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: That makes sense. Yeah, it's interesting. I love the speed

1387
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:17,199
running community. They's so crazy and like they the levels

1388
01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:21,480
of obsession and interest. It intrigues me greatly. And all

1389
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:23,719
the rules that they create because they don't want people

1390
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,719
cheating to get these top scores. To me, the number

1391
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,360
one person just literally played this game for a very

1392
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,559
very long time until they got super lucky.

1393
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a it's an infuriating thing to do,

1394
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,800
but it's it's very fun when you succeed.

1395
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 3: It's in there, Dan, it's under a minute.

1396
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,519
Speaker 2: Ruin your life? Yeah, yeah, what.

1397
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:43,119
Speaker 3: Else are you doing?

1398
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: What is uh? What's wander Stop? So you wrote it?

1399
01:01:48,159 --> 01:01:52,000
You wrote it. Your order is dumb because I wrote

1400
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,280
it after on the list it's below this other game.

1401
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,559
But then in parentheses you said talk about this before

1402
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:00,000
the game instead of just rearranging.

1403
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: Well, that was just to make sure you were paying attention.

1404
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:04,320
I mean, like I wanted you.

1405
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:08,599
Speaker 1: I'm always on my What's wander Stop? And I will

1406
01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:09,800
not ask about spilled yet?

1407
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:16,199
Speaker 3: Such a good transition. Wander Stop is the new game

1408
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,199
by I hope I say that Davy Redden, Okay, this

1409
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,280
Stanley Parable and the Beginner's Guide. This is like a

1410
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:30,079
person who like is a very creative writer, but a

1411
01:02:30,199 --> 01:02:34,159
very different game than Stanley Parable or The Beginner's Guide,

1412
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:40,000
very different than all of the games that the studio that,

1413
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:43,719
like the studio heads have made previously. This game is

1414
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:51,400
about making tea straight up. You are a angry killer

1415
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,719
who like has a sword and a vendetta, and you're like,

1416
01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:55,239
I have to win and I have to kill all

1417
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,920
these people, but you're like overworking yourself and freaking out mentally.

1418
01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:02,440
There's a lot of dial I was, to be fair,

1419
01:03:02,679 --> 01:03:05,960
this is just my vibe and Dan, I think you'll agree.

1420
01:03:06,039 --> 01:03:09,039
It's just very talky for like a beginning of a game.

1421
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:12,239
Speaker 2: I I've seen.

1422
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:16,039
Speaker 3: Lots of talkie to be able to explain her mental anguish,

1423
01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:19,239
her like frustration with like not being at the level

1424
01:03:19,239 --> 01:03:22,760
that she wants to be at, her like disappointment, or

1425
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,159
of her own expectations of herself. And so the beginning

1426
01:03:26,199 --> 01:03:28,559
of this game is like a straight up twenty minute

1427
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,519
narrative overview of why she is so fucked in the head.

1428
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:39,320
It helps paint a picture. I do not like twenty

1429
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,880
minutes of dialogue, so it really it was a bit

1430
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,400
draining for me. But eventually, essentially what happens is like

1431
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,840
you're you burn out, you freak out, and you you

1432
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,480
get helped by this dude who makes tea, and he

1433
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,079
like takes you back to his coffee shop and he's like,

1434
01:03:55,079 --> 01:03:58,039
why don't you just relax for a little bit, I'll

1435
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:01,639
show you how to make tea. My character hates this.

1436
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,280
The dialogue options are a little rude. It'll give me

1437
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,400
three options and he'll be like, do you want me

1438
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,199
to show you how to make tea? And my options

1439
01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:13,559
will be like fuck, no, I hate you, no, I

1440
01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:16,000
never want to learn how to make tea, and oh,

1441
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:18,559
I guess, and it's just like, well, all these are

1442
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,639
bitchy and mean, so I'll pick the least bitchy of

1443
01:04:21,679 --> 01:04:25,519
the three. I don't know why they gave me dialogue

1444
01:04:25,519 --> 01:04:28,840
options if they're all mean, but I guess like, ultimately,

1445
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,400
they don't want you to have too much direction with

1446
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:37,239
the fact that your character is a mean, frustrated, overworked,

1447
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:44,519
pissy girl. They slowly want, I think, to turn you

1448
01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:47,440
into a to a relaxing tea lover.

1449
01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:51,079
Speaker 2: Perhaps I see. Okay, so there's a reason that they're

1450
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:51,480
doing that.

1451
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,239
Speaker 3: I suppose they have at that point.

1452
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,159
Speaker 2: Like, why give the option?

1453
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: I give me three options if they're all mean. Mechanically,

1454
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:03,480
I really like the design of this space. I think

1455
01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:07,639
it's beautiful. The tea shop is stunning. I love all

1456
01:05:07,679 --> 01:05:09,760
the different ways that you get to make tea. It

1457
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,360
kind of has this whimsical It reminds me of like

1458
01:05:14,039 --> 01:05:17,639
it reminds me like a Hairy Potter candy shop where

1459
01:05:17,639 --> 01:05:21,239
they're just like, you know, these giant ladders that swing

1460
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,039
throughout the place, so that because the tea pot is

1461
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:27,119
so big, and you have to like kick open a

1462
01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:29,719
valve and like put the water in and make sure

1463
01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:31,800
that it's boiled to the perfect temperature. And then you

1464
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,480
kick open another valve and it goes into the infusing

1465
01:05:34,599 --> 01:05:37,239
center and then you slide your ladder over and you

1466
01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:40,480
put in your tea leaves and your flavors and it marinates,

1467
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,320
and then you kick open another valve and it goes

1468
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:47,519
into the perfect tea cylinder where you like put your

1469
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:51,360
tea cup and you have to pour it just right

1470
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,719
so that the perfect amount of tea pours into the

1471
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,000
cup and it doesn't overflow, but it's not too low.

1472
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,719
And that feels good when you get it right. And

1473
01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:04,519
then you deliver the tea to the person they've given you,

1474
01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:06,079
you know, and they're like, oh, this is pretty good,

1475
01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:08,480
Like you should have some too. The game is filled

1476
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,079
with lots of little spaces where I can pour myself

1477
01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:14,440
the same cup from that pot, and then I can

1478
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,119
go to a nice bench and I can sit on

1479
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:20,119
the bench and drink my tea and I will think.

1480
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:24,800
My character will have realizations or thoughts about what's going

1481
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,159
on with my life, or like why I'm so stressed

1482
01:06:27,199 --> 01:06:31,559
or frustrated, and I basically grow as a character every

1483
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:34,719
time I just sit and have a cup of tea.

1484
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:38,239
So I think I understand. I think what it's trying

1485
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,199
to get me to do, which is like relax and

1486
01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:43,400
like not worry so much about the day to day

1487
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,800
stresses and actually just enjoy making a cup of tea.

1488
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,920
But my dude, like, as someone who really likes playing

1489
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,239
games where I serve customers, you guys know that I

1490
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,440
really love those sims where yeah and customers are like

1491
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,119
I want this, but I don't want any blueberries. And

1492
01:06:58,159 --> 01:06:59,599
I also took a big shit in the bathroom and

1493
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:00,880
you need to clear that up. And I'm like, oh

1494
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,480
my god, yes, yes, sir. And so I'm like balancing

1495
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,639
on these plays. This game is like the opposite of that.

1496
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,280
I was shocked that, like, within the first hour of gameplay,

1497
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,920
I had one customer. This is intentional, right, this is

1498
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,159
no an accident. They want me to be relaxed and

1499
01:07:16,239 --> 01:07:18,639
kind of like enjoy the experience of a customer. But

1500
01:07:18,679 --> 01:07:21,440
the second a customer showed up, I was like, Hey,

1501
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,039
what kind of tea can I make you? And the

1502
01:07:23,079 --> 01:07:25,199
guy was like, I don't know, Like life is so

1503
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:26,920
crazy and like I don't even know what I want.

1504
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,360
I was like, bitch, what do you want? Like I'm

1505
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,920
so fucking ready to make his tea. I'm on another level.

1506
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:37,159
It's like it's like I took adderall and this game

1507
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,239
really wants me to take a sedative and I am

1508
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,800
on the opposite playing field of like what this game

1509
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,519
wants me to be, but what I want to do

1510
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:45,000
with it.

1511
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: That's a great way of putting it. I feel like

1512
01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:48,800
I know exactly what you're talking about with that, Like yeah,

1513
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,280
you like if you play like cook Served Delicious, Yes,

1514
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:53,079
where it's like those games were just like, yeah, let's

1515
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:54,840
go like that is a certain thing that you expect

1516
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,679
from like you know, cooking and serving and stuff like that.

1517
01:07:56,719 --> 01:07:58,280
And it sounds like this is definitely going for a

1518
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,639
different vibe. And I think he was probably in a

1519
01:08:01,679 --> 01:08:04,559
tricky spot and Davey reddening with with like his previous

1520
01:08:04,599 --> 01:08:08,119
stuff being so meta and having weird surreal twists and

1521
01:08:08,119 --> 01:08:10,800
stuff like that with a Beginner's Guide and Stanley parable

1522
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:13,559
that it's almost that like m Night Shyamalan thing where

1523
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,239
it's like, you know, he kind of rose.

1524
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:17,159
Speaker 3: Not have a twist you a little bitch.

1525
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: Thing that made him is just like a certain way,

1526
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,920
and then people have this certain expectation like, oh, this

1527
01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:24,640
worst the twist. Oh I'm sure it's gonna be a

1528
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,600
little team making game. But then it's like you make

1529
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:27,760
an actual team making game.

1530
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, has Sean made a movie where just nothing changes

1531
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,479
to fuck with people? And that's like everything happens exactly

1532
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,479
as it plays. I haven't watched his last like six, I've.

1533
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:40,039
Speaker 2: Only seen a couple of a twist.

1534
01:08:40,079 --> 01:08:42,119
Speaker 3: I feel like all of them have such sense.

1535
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't watched a while. That movie is

1536
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:45,319
really fucking good.

1537
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: Last it was incredib I haven't seen it since the

1538
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,840
n but like it was awesome. Yeah, it's just a

1539
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:51,720
great movie.

1540
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,079
Speaker 1: And also is one of the most underrated actors, especially

1541
01:08:55,079 --> 01:08:57,760
in horror, with Arister pulling her back out for Hereditary.

1542
01:08:58,880 --> 01:08:59,720
I like Signs.

1543
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 2: I like saying I thought Signs that was one of

1544
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,920
my favorite movie theater experiences until like I did not

1545
01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:06,520
like the end. I know that's the common thing, but

1546
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,920
like had a twist.

1547
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah that's a twist though, is it.

1548
01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: No, It's like I think, Okay, good point, good point.

1549
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,079
I think I think that movie was very much him

1550
01:09:18,079 --> 01:09:19,560
trying not to do a twist where it's like all

1551
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,560
all the signs where there the whole time leading up

1552
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,239
to this, like they're allergic to water. They're like it's

1553
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:27,920
toxic to them. He always swung and thought wrong not

1554
01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:33,199
to swing. Yeah, he had asthma, so there his lungs

1555
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:35,680
were closed up. It's like Shraumalaan saying there wasn't a twist.

1556
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,359
I was everything happens. That's why he was a priest.

1557
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,600
Fucking mel Gibson. I am an apologist for the Village.

1558
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,960
That movie. I hated the Village. The Village is the

1559
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,640
one where I left the theater and I think.

1560
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 2: I'm done with this guy.

1561
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people I get it, but like

1562
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,119
I like that movie.

1563
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:55,359
Speaker 2: Oh, I hated that.

1564
01:09:56,319 --> 01:09:58,359
Speaker 1: I don't blame I didn't care for the Village.

1565
01:09:58,399 --> 01:10:00,279
Speaker 3: I do think it had good world building, but I

1566
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:03,239
just think sometimes it it kind of sucks the fun

1567
01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:04,279
out of the room when you're.

1568
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:07,520
Speaker 1: Like what, I didn't like the twist. I just like

1569
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,000
the I like the entire movie until he revealed what

1570
01:10:10,039 --> 01:10:10,680
was really happening.

1571
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 2: I think that's where I was. I think that made

1572
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,439
me mad and then like I didn't see the trees.

1573
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,039
Trees were trying to kill Mark Wahlberg.

1574
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:21,359
Speaker 1: That's happening. Yeah, dude, good movie. Oh lady.

1575
01:10:22,119 --> 01:10:23,199
Speaker 2: That am I a.

1576
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: Huge Shyamalan fan, and I'm just really weirdo. Have you

1577
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,600
seen Lady in the Water?

1578
01:10:28,079 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 2: No, I done.

1579
01:10:31,319 --> 01:10:32,119
Speaker 1: Us of a movie.

1580
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 3: I love it.

1581
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,319
Speaker 1: It's so stupid. It's that's It has.

1582
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 3: A character who only works out one side of her body,

1583
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,439
and so one of the one of theirs is super

1584
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,319
buff and the other one.

1585
01:10:41,279 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: He's the pool guys. Oh, it's like a motel hotel

1586
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:50,319
where there's like, what's her name from the village, Bryce Howard. Yeah,

1587
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,880
she's in the Lady in the Water Again. I think

1588
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,239
Shyamalan probably shows up at some point. The dude from

1589
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:00,920
Moonrise Kingdom, balding guy, the the two camera stuff and

1590
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,359
Moon Rise Kingdom, he's in Lady in the Water. But

1591
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,399
Lady in the Waters whole thing is Shyamalan like deconstructing

1592
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:08,920
fiction and it sucks.

1593
01:11:11,279 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 2: That was awesome.

1594
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, this is your role in the story,

1595
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,319
and then everybody misunderstands their role in the story, and

1596
01:11:16,359 --> 01:11:18,039
then once they figure it out, it all works. There's

1597
01:11:18,039 --> 01:11:20,199
like a secret grotto in the deep end of the pool.

1598
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,880
Oh my god, it's fucking awesome. The happening was also

1599
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,159
sick and what was the what was the twist in

1600
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:27,720
the happening?

1601
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: Like it was to kill you?

1602
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,279
Speaker 1: No, that wasn't the twist. That was the premise.

1603
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: Oh I just heard, like I said, I was done

1604
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,640
after the village and everyone that came after. I was like,

1605
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:36,079
what's the twist?

1606
01:11:36,119 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 1: And reel as well. I think the I think the

1607
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,680
twist was that it just stopped once it had killed

1608
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,640
enough humans. It was, you know, the last of us,

1609
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,079
the cordyceps. Yeah, the fungus is like apparently it pops

1610
01:11:46,119 --> 01:11:48,520
up in ant colonies or something when it's like senses

1611
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,880
that they're getting too they're imbalancing the ecosystem. I think

1612
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,239
the happening was like that plants were like, they're they're

1613
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:56,319
destroying us. Let's kill the humans and they kill enough

1614
01:11:56,359 --> 01:11:59,920
and it stops. Because I think Mark Wahlberg and Zoe

1615
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:03,319
Chanel during this like cabin it's you guys that.

1616
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 3: My friends saw that in theaters and halfway through the film,

1617
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,840
he predicted that the twist was that it was going

1618
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,640
to zoom out and that it was going to be

1619
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,199
m Night Shamalan making the movie because it was so

1620
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:18,079
bad that the twist was going to be this movie's

1621
01:12:18,119 --> 01:12:22,119
falling apart because the acting is so poor and that

1622
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:26,520
and the the director is freaking out. But then that

1623
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,560
never happened, and the movie just.

1624
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: Ended expecting that to be. The twist has to be intentional.

1625
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: No, they just didn't get it. Did you see a

1626
01:12:36,079 --> 01:12:38,479
big Mark Wahlberg? Guy? No, I hate you.

1627
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,399
Speaker 2: Seem like you might be a big Mark Wahberg.

1628
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect him love Yeah, I actually don't. Yeah,

1629
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,119
he's got rained and have you seen the Fighter? I

1630
01:12:47,159 --> 01:12:49,760
don't know. I think he's a good dude. He talks

1631
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,520
taking baths, he loves Jesus. What's not to like?

1632
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,039
Speaker 2: All the stars, all the stars of that?

1633
01:12:56,079 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: Have you? Oh? Actually? Oh ship? I went to one

1634
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,319
episode filming of Jimmy Fallon and Mark Wahlberg was the

1635
01:13:01,359 --> 01:13:04,119
main guest. Oh nice, And he made Jimmy Fallon take

1636
01:13:04,119 --> 01:13:05,279
an ice bath in his suit.

1637
01:13:06,079 --> 01:13:08,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god. There's videos of him and like those

1638
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,840
two talking to each other sounds like the thing conversation.

1639
01:13:13,119 --> 01:13:16,279
Speaker 1: It's like two robots trying to explain.

1640
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 3: To AI who are.

1641
01:13:20,079 --> 01:13:22,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a touring test where neither of them

1642
01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:23,840
knows their computers either.

1643
01:13:24,039 --> 01:13:27,520
Speaker 3: You like ice baths, that's true. I do like ice baths.

1644
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this? Jesus, dude, I have an

1645
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,960
n FT I have an n f T. It looks

1646
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,920
like my brother Donnie, and Jesus. Donnie was in Brandon Brothers,

1647
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,239
so he's better than I am. The Have you seen Devil,

1648
01:13:41,319 --> 01:13:45,319
that's the one in the elevator elevator? Yeah, Allen's I

1649
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,560
love it. I love it. It's just the old woman

1650
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,439
the whole time. I'm sorry I'm spoiling it, but I'm

1651
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:51,079
pretty sure.

1652
01:13:52,039 --> 01:13:54,079
Speaker 3: That is a huge spoil Yeah, it's.

1653
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,359
Speaker 1: Been forty years. No one's gonna watch it anywhere.

1654
01:13:56,359 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 3: It's also it's also bad.

1655
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,319
Speaker 1: It's a bad movie. I'm saving it. I remember I

1656
01:13:59,359 --> 01:14:02,199
spent a Apple gift card on that movie on iTunes.

1657
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,159
Oh my god, so like I have buyer's remorse, so

1658
01:14:05,159 --> 01:14:06,600
I'm like, oh, it was a sick movie. I spent

1659
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,520
that eight dollars. Really well, anyway, it's like a.

1660
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 3: Game where you're trying to you actually have the ability

1661
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,319
to plant seeds, and if you plant seeds in a

1662
01:14:19,359 --> 01:14:21,600
particular order. These are the things that I like about

1663
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,800
the game. I think there are things that I just

1664
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,680
did not understand right. I don't think I agree with

1665
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,199
it narratively or like what it's trying to make me be,

1666
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,159
but I like the mechanics of it. Making tea is

1667
01:14:32,199 --> 01:14:38,520
super fun, and designing plants and growing plants is very fun.

1668
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,840
They have a book that gives you a guide, but

1669
01:14:41,039 --> 01:14:43,399
it has you don't know which colors will lead to

1670
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,560
which types of plants. That's super fun. So you have

1671
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:51,079
to put certain colors in a certain design pattern on

1672
01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:54,479
the ground, and they use like an octagonal grid to

1673
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,119
give you a guide of where you want to plant things.

1674
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,119
Once you do it, and you make a new type

1675
01:14:59,119 --> 01:15:01,760
of plant and you water it, you get a particular seed,

1676
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,039
and then your book automatically updates to let you know

1677
01:15:04,119 --> 01:15:06,560
that if you use three blue flowers and one pink

1678
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,840
flower in the middle, it will make this very specific

1679
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,000
type of tree that will make a doesn't really matter,

1680
01:15:12,079 --> 01:15:16,479
but like a you know, a tte type. I shouldn't

1681
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,239
have used word T, I should have used any other letter,

1682
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,159
like a QQ plant that makes a sweet tea that

1683
01:15:22,279 --> 01:15:25,319
helps energize somebody. And so you keep all this stuff

1684
01:15:25,359 --> 01:15:27,439
in your booklets that you can recognize it later that way,

1685
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,279
when a patron comes in and they're like, I'm really

1686
01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:33,960
tired and I love mint, You're like sick. I know

1687
01:15:34,079 --> 01:15:37,239
exactly which type of plant gives me high energy, and

1688
01:15:37,279 --> 01:15:40,359
I also have a plant that tastes like mint. So

1689
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,479
I will combine those plants in my next tee for

1690
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,159
this and I will brew it up and then I

1691
01:15:46,199 --> 01:15:47,520
serve it to the guy and he's like, this is

1692
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,359
exactly what I needed. I'm stoked, Like let's have fun here.

1693
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,439
That feels good. It feels good to serve people. It

1694
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:58,319
feels good to like solve that that decision making of

1695
01:15:58,319 --> 01:16:00,920
like how do I design the per t for someone

1696
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:05,359
and give it to them aesthetically, it is so relaxing

1697
01:16:05,399 --> 01:16:07,640
and fun to make tea. I think they nailed the

1698
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,159
feeling of making tea. So I think it's cool and

1699
01:16:11,239 --> 01:16:13,600
I think it I think it is doing what it's

1700
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,399
intending to do, which is cozy. I just think I

1701
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,520
want to express that this is really more of like

1702
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:26,359
a story about an overworked, you know, traumatic trauma induced

1703
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,279
like main character who like feels like they're inadequate and

1704
01:16:29,319 --> 01:16:32,359
has like problems with like relieving that tension and stress

1705
01:16:33,279 --> 01:16:36,800
clumsily disguised as a cozy game that is okay, there

1706
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,079
is like a whole world that this game is trying

1707
01:16:39,119 --> 01:16:41,960
to put in there that I don't want, but.

1708
01:16:42,319 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: You can do, you can do appreciate like cozy games

1709
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,720
that are just cozy games, Like on the surface they're

1710
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,760
a cozy game. When you dig in their cozy game.

1711
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,319
Speaker 1: Like, that's what I trying to like speak to something

1712
01:16:52,359 --> 01:16:57,840
deeper that's no longer cozy. It's about tariffs, Like like

1713
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,479
like the movie Sign, I thought it was just about

1714
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,239
I thought it was just about a family living on

1715
01:17:03,279 --> 01:17:09,720
a farm, and turns out it's about faith and predestination.

1716
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,560
I just get, let me have these aliens invade this cornfield.

1717
01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:16,800
I and then yeah, it's my favorite movie of all time.

1718
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,439
But I still would prefer it was just a simple

1719
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,199
farm alion.

1720
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,319
Speaker 3: I think if this game was mostly about building tea

1721
01:17:23,319 --> 01:17:24,760
and at the very end she was like, man, I

1722
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,439
had a lot of trauma, but this solved it, I

1723
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,479
actually would have liked it. Much like Shyamalan. I think

1724
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,319
my struggle is that the very beginning of this game

1725
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,439
is all about trauma and like tension and dealing with inadequacy.

1726
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,560
And I was like when do I get to make

1727
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,000
the tea? So I think you need to be patient

1728
01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:45,199
with this game. I think it's for a very particular audience.

1729
01:17:45,359 --> 01:17:48,119
I absolutely can see people, especially people who are like

1730
01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:50,159
I want to be able to relax and take photos

1731
01:17:50,199 --> 01:17:52,000
and put them on the wall and build my tea

1732
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,039
shop and enjoy the experience of running around like hunting

1733
01:17:56,039 --> 01:17:58,640
for tea leaves in the garden and stuff like that.

1734
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,119
You will still like this game, just be aware that

1735
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:06,479
there is a huge narrative at play that you cannot

1736
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:07,840
bypass as far as I'm aware.

1737
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a game on the tip of my tongue

1738
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,279
that like does that, or there's several games where like,

1739
01:18:14,319 --> 01:18:16,119
I really think you hit it out of the park

1740
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:18,640
already with the mechanics and the simple like gameplay premise,

1741
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,680
you're trying too much. You don't have the writing chops,

1742
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,600
and even if you did, I don't want that here. Like,

1743
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,039
I guess it's cool to like kind of Trojan Horse

1744
01:18:27,159 --> 01:18:30,199
a story like that into something that seems much simpler

1745
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:33,840
than it is, But I always I usually just get annoyed.

1746
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, this game is extremely charming. It's extremely charming if

1747
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,119
you like look. Yeah, the visual style. Oh, can I

1748
01:18:41,119 --> 01:18:42,680
just say one more thing that I love about it, which.

1749
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: Is what's spilled?

1750
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,279
Speaker 3: Talk about spill the tea cup system. When somebody drinks

1751
01:18:47,279 --> 01:18:49,399
a cup of tea. Now the cup is dirty and

1752
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,399
so you need to wash it. They have a cute

1753
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,600
little train that runs through a waterfall, and so you

1754
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,000
put the dirty cup in the train and it goes

1755
01:18:58,039 --> 01:18:59,800
through waterfall and it comes out to game.

1756
01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: I like that. I'm a huge sucker for trains inside,

1757
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,720
like tiny trains in side places like restaurants and stuff.

1758
01:19:06,039 --> 01:19:09,319
Speaker 3: Esthetically, this place is it is whimsical. It feels like

1759
01:19:09,359 --> 01:19:12,119
you're in a kid's candy store again. I feel like

1760
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,079
it like it's like sucked out of like Hogwarts or

1761
01:19:14,079 --> 01:19:18,520
like some magical children's fantasy. It's beautifully designed. It's so pretty.

1762
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,399
I want to play in there all the time. I

1763
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,479
just do not want to have trauma.

1764
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,199
Speaker 2: That's fair. I think that's a reasonable request.

1765
01:19:28,039 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I asked. I asked Mike to wander Stuff

1766
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,920
first because I also played a game called Spilled. This

1767
01:19:38,039 --> 01:19:40,760
game is extremely simple. I just want to preface that

1768
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,359
this is the other half of wander Stop, which is

1769
01:19:44,399 --> 01:19:46,680
Spilled is a game where you are a tiny tug

1770
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:51,520
boat and you are cleaning up oil spills and garbage

1771
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,960
and debris. And when you do that, you get money

1772
01:19:55,319 --> 01:19:59,039
which you can build a bigger boat that has it's faster,

1773
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,279
you make get more efficient. It is literally like just

1774
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:08,239
the juice. It is all dewey. There's like no fucking premise.

1775
01:20:08,279 --> 01:20:11,399
There's no there's nobody being like, we gotta clean up

1776
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,760
all this oil. You know, the penguins are sick, Like

1777
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,039
none of that shit happens.

1778
01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:18,399
Speaker 1: It's just where it is that you're referencing, none.

1779
01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:21,239
Speaker 3: Of But I just say I was imagining what this

1780
01:20:21,359 --> 01:20:22,800
game's narrative would have been.

1781
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,079
Speaker 1: But then the oil spills and it becomes this existential

1782
01:20:27,119 --> 01:20:31,319
consideration on a metal level. Offs oh god, well it's

1783
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,319
oh god. I'm just I'm just formulating my waypoint pitch

1784
01:20:34,399 --> 01:20:37,319
before I do it. I'm not making I love point.

1785
01:20:37,319 --> 01:20:38,399
I miss sorry.

1786
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,520
Speaker 3: There's no there's no there are there are like little animals,

1787
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:44,880
but they don't there's no narrative. It's just like you

1788
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,600
see the oil and you go clean it up. This

1789
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,199
game is short. I just want to preface like this

1790
01:20:49,239 --> 01:20:51,239
is this is an indie ass India, and this is

1791
01:20:51,279 --> 01:20:53,359
made by like one person as far as I'm aware,

1792
01:20:53,399 --> 01:20:55,159
and it's very simple. I beat it within an hour,

1793
01:20:55,279 --> 01:20:56,880
so like keep that context in mind.

1794
01:20:57,119 --> 01:20:59,119
Speaker 2: This is like I feel like when you said, like, oh,

1795
01:20:59,119 --> 01:21:01,119
it's called spilled and play as a little tugboat that

1796
01:21:01,159 --> 01:21:03,720
cleans up oil, it sounded like something Mike would make

1797
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,680
up for the merry ass Game of the Year.

1798
01:21:07,119 --> 01:21:08,520
Speaker 1: Spell to an exclamation point.

1799
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this game is really cute. It sets

1800
01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:16,199
out to do what it wants to do, it completes

1801
01:21:16,239 --> 01:21:18,920
that task really quickly. As you upgrade your boat, you

1802
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,319
get to like shoot water out of your little tugboat,

1803
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:23,079
which is so cute. And then there's like fires in

1804
01:21:23,119 --> 01:21:25,279
some of the environments, and so you're putting out fires.

1805
01:21:25,399 --> 01:21:29,119
You're like sometimes you'll come across an oil covered like

1806
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,840
swan and you'll like clean them up and then they'll

1807
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,359
be like, oh, they don't actually say anything to you,

1808
01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:36,159
but yeah, if this was the other game, we'd be.

1809
01:21:36,079 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: Like, thank you.

1810
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,159
Speaker 3: I was so devastrated. This is just an animal. You

1811
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:42,000
clean it up and then it flies away and that's nice.

1812
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: What is going on in the world building that there

1813
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:50,199
is a giant black cat on the shore.

1814
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:55,399
Speaker 3: They don't explain anything. There's No, there's no narrative of

1815
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,119
this game. You're just playing cool. That's it.

1816
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: The size of a windmill. Yeah, okay, I know this

1817
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:01,319
game is.

1818
01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 3: Very dewey and it it's that's it. You're just in

1819
01:22:05,039 --> 01:22:07,560
the world and you're cleaning up oil. Period done. That's

1820
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,399
my pitch. I enjoyed it. It was one hour. It

1821
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,640
was I felt I felt relieved when I finished playing it.

1822
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,000
I was like, I cleaned the ship out of that

1823
01:22:15,039 --> 01:22:16,359
world game.

1824
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: This makes me want to go back to uh to

1825
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,359
two years ago the boat the fishing game.

1826
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: Oh, Dredge.

1827
01:22:23,359 --> 01:22:28,279
Speaker 1: Dredge was so fun. They have the Arctic or Antarctic DLC.

1828
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,079
I haven't played it. I might just go restart.

1829
01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:32,560
Speaker 3: That game was really I haven't played the DLC either,

1830
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,760
and I think that was my goady, Like was it

1831
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:35,359
two years ago?

1832
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1833
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 3: I loved that game.

1834
01:22:37,279 --> 01:22:42,039
Speaker 1: God That Wild Those That and Outer Wild both have

1835
01:22:42,119 --> 01:22:46,000
DLCs that I want to play, and I have distanced

1836
01:22:46,039 --> 01:22:47,920
myself from both games enough that I want to go

1837
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:48,680
back and replay.

1838
01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: I'd love to try the DLC About a Wild again

1839
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,399
because like, that was my game of the year, and

1840
01:22:53,399 --> 01:22:55,920
then the DLC I could not get it, and I

1841
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:56,760
should go back and.

1842
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 3: I had the narrative I didn't know where to go,

1843
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,239
and I was like, really, I was like, the space

1844
01:23:03,319 --> 01:23:06,119
is really big and it took it takes time to

1845
01:23:06,199 --> 01:23:08,760
have a whole twenty four hour cycle yep. So going

1846
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,359
somewhere and then having it not be the right direction

1847
01:23:12,199 --> 01:23:14,880
is kind of defeating. I do think that's a part

1848
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,560
of the game, which is like, oh, I wasted today,

1849
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,000
I better try again. But I quit for the same

1850
01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:21,760
reason Dan, which is like, if you're gonna fucking drag

1851
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,479
my ass all the way to Mars, there better be

1852
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,520
some fucking skeleton that I uncover in the sand. That is, like,

1853
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,039
you actually want to go to Venus, like I need

1854
01:23:29,079 --> 01:23:30,479
someone to guide.

1855
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,520
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. That's a game I'm not against, like you know,

1856
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,560
button my head against something and dying and stuff. That

1857
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,000
was a big part about her Wilds. But I did

1858
01:23:39,039 --> 01:23:41,039
feel like I was able to deduce things in like

1859
01:23:41,079 --> 01:23:43,039
the DLC. I was kind of like, I've done this

1860
01:23:43,159 --> 01:23:45,079
loop ten times. I don't know what the funck I'm

1861
01:23:45,079 --> 01:23:46,840
supposed to do here, and that was more frustrating than

1862
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:47,359
the fun for me.

1863
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,319
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I do want to go back to that

1864
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,920
and dredge though that Dredges really So.

1865
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,279
Speaker 3: Those games are very very valuable to me. I like,

1866
01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:56,840
I speak so highly of them, but I can fall

1867
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,600
off just like anyone else if I feel like my

1868
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,159
time is being wasted. That's just the reality I think

1869
01:24:02,199 --> 01:24:04,039
of us having so many games to play Like. That's

1870
01:24:04,079 --> 01:24:05,680
the other aspect of it, which is like you can

1871
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,279
really like a game, but being like, hey, I got

1872
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:10,159
eight other games I want to play, so you need

1873
01:24:10,199 --> 01:24:11,880
to give me a real good reason to get back

1874
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:12,279
in here.

1875
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: What's Disney's Extreme Skate Adventure? Dan? What the fuck?

1876
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 3: Dan?

1877
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 2: Look?

1878
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,079
Speaker 1: I know, is this a Mike MANAUGHTI thing?

1879
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 2: No, this is the Tony Hawks pro Skater thing. This

1880
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,560
is uh and as a result, I think it's probably

1881
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,119
the best thing Disney's ever made. It's just I heard

1882
01:24:32,119 --> 01:24:34,800
that there was a game made in two thousand and

1883
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,119
three or so for the PS two and it's using

1884
01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:38,720
the Tony Hawk four engine.

1885
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: Is that why I see a PS two on the

1886
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:41,039
floor behind you?

1887
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,359
Speaker 2: Oh, there's numerous reasons. There's PS twos and stuff behind me,

1888
01:24:44,399 --> 01:24:46,960
there's a VCR, there's I'm just I got a lot

1889
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,239
of old guy stuff going on there. Yeah, like those

1890
01:24:49,239 --> 01:24:52,479
serious says watching the VHS tapes on stream last night,

1891
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,920
meth Lab behind him, you can't see them looking at

1892
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:58,840
a game cube, and then sixty four like they're all

1893
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,119
out here with the wires everywhere. Are you watching on stream?

1894
01:25:02,399 --> 01:25:06,000
I bought a VHS tape of the best of tool

1895
01:25:06,079 --> 01:25:08,840
Time from Home Improvement.

1896
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor, Taylor.

1897
01:25:11,319 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's a site that does this is a

1898
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,840
new thing. Is the new VHS that was made happens.

1899
01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:23,800
It's called Real Cool. He's got a current sitcom and stuff.

1900
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 1: But really he's out of jail prison.

1901
01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:29,319
Speaker 2: He wasn't like he got arrested for like drug stuff

1902
01:25:29,319 --> 01:25:30,720
like before way before him approving.

1903
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,159
Speaker 3: He's in societal prison in the sense that I think

1904
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:36,079
people have shunned him because he's a bit of a quack,

1905
01:25:38,079 --> 01:25:38,359
you know.

1906
01:25:38,359 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: Like all I know about is based on the interview

1907
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,159
he did on The Norm Show about cocaine and prison

1908
01:25:42,359 --> 01:25:42,720
and jail.

1909
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:48,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was before his like you know, SUPERO.

1910
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: Before Santa Claus. Then that's when he.

1911
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 2: Got way bags like Santa Claus.

1912
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: I've seen all three of those. I could tell you

1913
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:57,560
every I could recite from memory, every Santa Claus movie, wonderful.

1914
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 3: I don't care for that actor to mellon, No.

1915
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: He's I like, look for some reason, the nineties were

1916
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,439
a very different time, and everyone on Earth fucking loved

1917
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,159
Home Improvement. It was the most popular funding. And then

1918
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:12,359
remember when DVD season started coming out when I was

1919
01:26:12,399 --> 01:26:14,800
in college of like just TV shows, I was like, oh,

1920
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,880
Home Improvement everyone. I got to get Home Improvement first

1921
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,359
season DVD and I start watching. I was like, this

1922
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:20,399
isn't really that funny.

1923
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 3: This is like it probably doesn't love but no reasons,

1924
01:26:24,039 --> 01:26:27,199
Like every time he would go to the guy his

1925
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:30,960
neighbor who like hit half his face, well yeah, yeah, yeah,

1926
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,119
I mean I grew.

1927
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 2: Up with that ship and now borland with his flannel

1928
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,439
on Tool Time and they would always be like, oh,

1929
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,640
we made a bathroom for dudes, and it's like, here's

1930
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,199
where the beer comes out for your toilet.

1931
01:26:40,319 --> 01:26:41,239
Speaker 1: I remember that.

1932
01:26:41,319 --> 01:26:44,199
Speaker 3: They did a man's bathroom. They did a man's they

1933
01:26:44,199 --> 01:26:45,239
did it several times.

1934
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: Ye. That's on my VHS tape of the Best of

1935
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:47,920
Tool Time.

1936
01:26:48,039 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: That's yeah, we were, we were. I would watch that.

1937
01:26:51,239 --> 01:26:53,000
We were really forward thinking family.

1938
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:54,560
Speaker 2: That's what I was doing.

1939
01:26:56,319 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1940
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: So okay, so it's just it's the toys for Bob

1941
01:27:00,159 --> 01:27:03,720
did a Tony Hawk game with Disney bullshit. But it's

1942
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,039
like using to Tony Hawks.

1943
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: Never thought here.

1944
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing. I don't give a shit

1945
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,520
about Disney stuff. So like all the levels are like

1946
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,039
Toy Story and Jungle Book and Tarzan and all this stuff.

1947
01:27:14,279 --> 01:27:16,359
But it just plays like a fucking Tony Hawk game.

1948
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,720
Like when it starts off, the controls are different, but

1949
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,279
then I looked at the options, it's like, turn on

1950
01:27:20,359 --> 01:27:23,079
pro controls and it just turns it into Tony Hawk.

1951
01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:25,359
It's like the same sound effects, the same like it's

1952
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,600
Tony Hawk's four kind of goals, structure and everything. I'm

1953
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,279
playing this games like this is just a fucking Tony

1954
01:27:30,279 --> 01:27:33,520
Hawk game. But I'm buzz Lightyear or whatever. Uh, it's

1955
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,199
pretty fucking good. Like, as a big Tony Hawk guy

1956
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:38,439
who's been thinking about Tony Hawk a lot lately, it's

1957
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,199
weird to be able to pull up a game from

1958
01:27:40,279 --> 01:27:42,479
twenty two years ago that I had never heard of

1959
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,520
and be like, this is basically a secret Tony Hawk game.

1960
01:27:46,039 --> 01:27:48,199
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, but it's got Disney stuff.

1961
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I can. I can look past the Disney

1962
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:52,880
stuff and just enjoy skating around. Oh but it's weird

1963
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,439
because it's like the most brand centric shit ever. So

1964
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,840
there's like a McDonald's and you go to the McDonald's

1965
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,520
and you go to the drive through microphone and like, hey,

1966
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,479
deliver these orders. So you're delivering like PS two rendered

1967
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,399
like three D, like you know, uh, fries and quarter

1968
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,880
pounders and stuff. And then you go to mister Nokia

1969
01:28:10,119 --> 01:28:12,159
and mister Nokia's like I got to get these new

1970
01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:14,039
ring tones. And you go around to everyone and you're

1971
01:28:14,039 --> 01:28:16,920
collecting their Nokia ring tones for their actual Nokia phones.

1972
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,760
And it's I deeply respect the marketing to children aspect

1973
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,039
of it, Like just trying to monetize kids. I have

1974
01:28:23,119 --> 01:28:25,880
to respect that. But yeah, it's a good skateboarding game.

1975
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,520
Speaker 1: As you're phrasing. Sometimes throws me off. Just trying to

1976
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:31,359
monetize kids.

1977
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,359
Speaker 2: I mean they're idiots, so like get their money. Yeah

1978
01:28:35,399 --> 01:28:37,479
for sure. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Mary, What's

1979
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:38,199
Guns of Fury?

1980
01:28:39,039 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 3: Guns of Fury is a game that I want to

1981
01:28:41,039 --> 01:28:42,920
sell to Dan? I think you're gonna really like this.

1982
01:28:43,119 --> 01:28:45,199
Speaker 1: You don't recommend games to me, ever, it's always Dan.

1983
01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:49,520
Speaker 3: What is the don't play like rat based tile games?

1984
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 2: Very often is the Benn Diagram of interest games wise,

1985
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,520
I think Mary, you and I probably overlap a lot

1986
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,560
more than me, and me and Mike have a good overlapped.

1987
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:00,319
Speaker 1: I think.

1988
01:29:00,399 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 2: I think what we're saying here is that I'm the

1989
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,119
most well rounded. I play everything, and you two are

1990
01:29:05,159 --> 01:29:07,279
a little more in your little niche the.

1991
01:29:07,159 --> 01:29:10,319
Speaker 1: Most opposite, open minded, and he's the least in a

1992
01:29:10,399 --> 01:29:10,920
niche hole.

1993
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah I agree. Yeah, thanks for saying that.

1994
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that that's how I would describe

1995
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:17,079
him at all.

1996
01:29:17,079 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: When it comes to me.

1997
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:20,359
Speaker 3: I think often Mike and I band together to take

1998
01:29:20,359 --> 01:29:22,439
you down all the time from your dumb opinions about

1999
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,279
some game that needs to be best, and it's actually

2000
01:29:24,319 --> 01:29:24,840
just okay.

2001
01:29:25,159 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 2: I think, I'm When did I do that last year?

2002
01:29:28,319 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: You do it every year you did?

2003
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,079
Speaker 2: Would give me give me examples?

2004
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:34,039
Speaker 1: You both did it with Pickman two years ago? What

2005
01:29:34,079 --> 01:29:35,039
was last year? Yeah?

2006
01:29:35,079 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 2: When was I? When was I stubborn?

2007
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: When we were last stubborn? Dan says, what did win

2008
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:42,960
Game of the Year last year?

2009
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:44,159
Speaker 2: Uh?

2010
01:29:45,359 --> 01:29:48,039
Speaker 3: Let me do our ghost last year category?

2011
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: I keep god, last year was kind of a funk?

2012
01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 3: Was it Astrobot?

2013
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Oh?

2014
01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:54,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course?

2015
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:56,319
Speaker 1: Keeps over.

2016
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,159
Speaker 2: Then he forgets about it, forgot, I forget everything. But yes,

2017
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:00,920
that's one of the best games ever.

2018
01:30:01,079 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: No metaphor was better.

2019
01:30:03,359 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 2: This looks like Metal Slug, which I like.

2020
01:30:05,119 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 3: Yes, so it's a kind of a I would say

2021
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,119
we have like a contra metal Slug vibe here asthetically

2022
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:16,520
so much fun. Everything you shoot explodes.

2023
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,079
Speaker 2: There's so many explosions in this.

2024
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,199
Speaker 3: It's crazy. You shoot everything and it all explodes. But

2025
01:30:21,239 --> 01:30:23,359
they've done really nice details where like if you shoot

2026
01:30:23,359 --> 01:30:26,079
a barrel or like an oxygen tank, it will shoot

2027
01:30:26,119 --> 01:30:29,239
up into the sky. It will explode the tower, and

2028
01:30:29,279 --> 01:30:30,840
then the guy in the tower will be like, oh,

2029
01:30:32,399 --> 01:30:35,520
it's really fun. Okay, here we go. Here's my next part.

2030
01:30:36,039 --> 01:30:37,199
It's a metroid Vania.

2031
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm writing this down.

2032
01:30:39,239 --> 01:30:42,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I get why you recommend this. Yeah, it's tank

2033
01:30:42,399 --> 01:30:46,640
just shot a laser. I'm seeing the metroid Vania map now, yeah, yeah,

2034
01:30:47,159 --> 01:30:49,640
he's got a lightsaber in the mac. What the fuck?

2035
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,279
Speaker 3: There's there's mechs.

2036
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,159
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Steam gameplayers.

2037
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,159
Speaker 3: They just games dewey as ship. It just plops you

2038
01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:57,680
in the world and so you'll go to all these

2039
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,000
different like explosion areas.

2040
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: But they are like God there's an ice gun.

2041
01:31:01,399 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, there's there's like twenty different guns, you guys.

2042
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 1: It's just shot a hole in a wall and open

2043
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,239
up a secret room allah the original Zelda.

2044
01:31:09,359 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 3: And then there's there's three different types of weapons, right,

2045
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,079
so there's like your main guns, there's your secondary gun,

2046
01:31:15,119 --> 01:31:17,119
which can be like a cannon, or it could be

2047
01:31:17,239 --> 01:31:19,840
like a laser gun. It could be all these different things.

2048
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,960
And then there's your third one. So it could be

2049
01:31:22,079 --> 01:31:26,560
a knife, but it could also be a boomerang fuck,

2050
01:31:27,239 --> 01:31:29,359
or it could be a fire starter. And all of

2051
01:31:29,399 --> 01:31:33,439
those help expand your Metroidvania world. So again, you might

2052
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,680
go to an area and you'll be like, well, I

2053
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,520
can't climb this, and I don't have a double or

2054
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,439
triple jump, so I guess I can't go here. But

2055
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,720
you will get an item. And if you get this

2056
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,720
very particular item, now all of a sudden, you can

2057
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,439
hit the button that's really high because this is an

2058
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:50,000
arc based throwing item, and now you can get to

2059
01:31:50,039 --> 01:31:53,359
a whole different area in the Metroidvania space. That's like

2060
01:31:53,359 --> 01:31:58,119
your new level. It has sick boss fights, it is challenging.

2061
01:31:58,199 --> 01:32:00,199
I have died a lot trying to like get the

2062
01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:03,239
boss fights to be completed. I've enjoyed the shit out

2063
01:32:03,239 --> 01:32:05,720
of this game. It's so funny. Is that, Like I

2064
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:07,439
had a lot of really I have. I had like

2065
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,720
seven games listed that I played in the last two weeks.

2066
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:10,840
This is my favorite.

2067
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I I already downloaded it. Yeah, it just that

2068
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,199
looks like a fun video game, such.

2069
01:32:19,079 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 3: A fun video game, and it knows that it's a

2070
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:25,880
fun video game, Like it knows what it's doing, it

2071
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,239
it knows its player base. There's so few negatives. The

2072
01:32:29,239 --> 01:32:30,880
only negative I can say is that, like for a

2073
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,680
game that's trying to compare itself to like Metal Slug

2074
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,439
and you guys all know like Metal Slug has like

2075
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:40,359
some of the most incredible animations, Yes, it's not of

2076
01:32:40,399 --> 01:32:44,239
that caliber. Sure, that's my only that's it. That's like

2077
01:32:44,279 --> 01:32:45,039
my only negative.

2078
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Well, the idea that type of gameplay with a metroidvania,

2079
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,760
like I you know, like Shadow Complex had guns and

2080
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,960
was a metroidvania, but it wasn't in the vein of

2081
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,680
like a contra Metal Slug type shooter. So like, I'm

2082
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:55,560
definitely for trying this.

2083
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super fun.

2084
01:32:57,399 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: I try it too, But you only recommend as it dance.

2085
01:33:00,319 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 3: I recommending it to both of you. I just think

2086
01:33:04,159 --> 01:33:10,119
a contra Detroidvania. I thought of Dan immediately, but I

2087
01:33:10,119 --> 01:33:13,760
think you will think you really like this game. This also,

2088
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:18,760
like it was really off my radar, my my like

2089
01:33:19,239 --> 01:33:21,720
moderator when I stream got this and was like, hey,

2090
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,560
I think you'd really like this game. And I would

2091
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,880
not have played this if he did not buy that

2092
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,680
for me, Like, I'm so grateful because the marketing or whatever,

2093
01:33:30,039 --> 01:33:33,079
for whatever reason, this totally blew over my radar, But

2094
01:33:33,199 --> 01:33:35,319
I'm really grateful that I played it, and so like,

2095
01:33:35,399 --> 01:33:38,479
this is why we have this podcast. Everybody needs to

2096
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,680
play this game. It's it's fucking great. This is the

2097
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,319
number one game and no one's fucking talking about it.

2098
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:45,920
Guns of Fury.

2099
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,039
Speaker 2: Okay, I will play it by the time we record next.

2100
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2101
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 3: This isn't just a challenge to you Dan or to Mike.

2102
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,920
This is to all of our listeners. This is the game,

2103
01:33:56,319 --> 01:33:59,359
and I stand by it. If you don't like this game,

2104
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:01,159
stop listening.

2105
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 2: Just don't take that seriously.

2106
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,600
Speaker 1: We got no one's talking about it.

2107
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,199
Speaker 3: How weird is that? And it's great. It's freaking great.

2108
01:34:13,279 --> 01:34:14,319
Speaker 1: What's dying the dungeon.

2109
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,119
Speaker 3: This is a very quick one. I really like, uh

2110
01:34:19,119 --> 01:34:21,960
these types of games where you I don't know, it's

2111
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:26,079
like deck building, but this one is with dice. So

2112
01:34:26,119 --> 01:34:29,439
you build a deck of dice and then you roll them,

2113
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,479
and based on your rolls, you fight, you turn base

2114
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,720
fight enemies in a dungeon, and it gets progressively harder.

2115
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,520
This game is very difficult. I think if you like

2116
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:45,479
turn based deck builders in dungeons and you want to

2117
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,239
try something different, this is the same thing with dice.

2118
01:34:48,399 --> 01:34:50,600
You play as a cute little frog. I think it's cute,

2119
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,840
a little difficult. I mean I'm not even getting past

2120
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:58,560
the first area, so maybe they need to uh maybe

2121
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,680
I suck or maybe the Katie to look at it

2122
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:03,640
a little bit. It's early access, so I suspect that

2123
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:06,920
this game needs to be fine tuned. I bought it

2124
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,920
in the sale, you know, like in the Steam sale.

2125
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,680
That's why I bought it, because it was on sale.

2126
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,800
So I think it's a great Steam sale game because

2127
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,039
I you know, it's like it's already not very expensive,

2128
01:35:17,239 --> 01:35:20,399
and when you add a you know, a ten percent

2129
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,399
or twenty thirty percent off, it's like ten bucks. It

2130
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,960
was great, So anyway, it's called die in the dungeon

2131
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,800
d I E. And I think that's just a little

2132
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:35,359
play on words because you roll dice and dicey dungeons

2133
01:35:35,359 --> 01:35:35,960
was already taken.

2134
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:38,279
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not a pun, that's just how

2135
01:35:38,319 --> 01:35:38,760
you spell it.

2136
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: But it's the word.

2137
01:35:40,079 --> 01:35:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it was color based, d y e ullo.

2138
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 2: Look at this guy. Wow.

2139
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,119
Speaker 1: It was a weirder tasting than I thought it would be.

2140
01:35:51,119 --> 01:35:54,239
Speaker 2: Audio listener to the audio listeners my deep throat of

2141
01:35:54,279 --> 01:35:54,840
the microphone.

2142
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it tasted different like I thought it'd be sweeter.

2143
01:35:57,399 --> 01:35:59,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a giant windscreen on it. That's gross.

2144
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:00,319
Speaker 3: That's how they get you.

2145
01:36:03,399 --> 01:36:04,199
Speaker 2: This is a hymn thing.

2146
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I I have such an overwhelming urbage to

2147
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:11,560
put cylindrical things in my mouth all the time.

2148
01:36:12,319 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2149
01:36:13,039 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, games, you want to, you want to? You want to?

2150
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:21,279
Want to talk about emails? Sure, hey, everybody as usual.

2151
01:36:21,399 --> 01:36:24,319
You can right into Jake. I don't know figure out

2152
01:36:24,319 --> 01:36:27,159
where the fuck to come in on that conversation. You

2153
01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:29,319
can ride into fire skate pass at gmail dot com.

2154
01:36:29,359 --> 01:36:31,680
I should mention I'm gonna mention this later on. I

2155
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,039
didn't talk about any games at all, which keen listeners

2156
01:36:35,079 --> 01:36:38,760
will have noticed because I was in GDC last week

2157
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:44,479
and I just wasn't. I was wasn't playing games playing games.

2158
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 3: You're playing one very particular game with our buddy Vinnie.

2159
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: Yes, that's where I was going with that. I forgot

2160
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,600
where I was going. Thank you you saved me. Yeah,

2161
01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:01,239
Vinnie and I are playing Total war Warhammer three two campaigns.

2162
01:37:01,279 --> 01:37:05,840
Based on how many people have signed up people like it,

2163
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,159
seems like a lot of you know about it.

2164
01:37:07,159 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 2: However, I think Warhammer might be popular. I've never heard

2165
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:10,560
about it anywhere.

2166
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:16,600
Speaker 1: It's just it's Vinnie is popular. I think if you're

2167
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,720
not a video tier patron for fire Escape, we Vinnie

2168
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,640
and I are doing a co op campaign in Total

2169
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,479
War Warhammer three. He is playing as Imrick with the

2170
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:26,880
High Elves, and I am playing as Oxy Ottle with

2171
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,760
the Lizard Men, and we're doing a good quote unquote

2172
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,199
order campaign. And then if you're not signed up to

2173
01:37:34,399 --> 01:37:36,720
next Lander on their video or their top tier, I

2174
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,640
believe uh that we're doing the Evil campaign over there.

2175
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:43,319
I'm playing as Count Knocklist in the Vampire Zombie Pirates.

2176
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,720
Vinnie is playing as skull Taker and the Demons of corn.

2177
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,840
So that's fun. It's been fun. We're going back and forth.

2178
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,159
So if you're listening to this episode and it goes

2179
01:37:53,199 --> 01:37:54,960
up on the day, there's a new episode over at

2180
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,600
next Lander for the Evil Campaign, and we're coming up

2181
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,960
on episode three for the Good Campaign next week.

2182
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 3: You're gonna want to be a Vineo tier level Patreon

2183
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,960
subscriber because you're gonna want to get those videos.

2184
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:11,079
Speaker 1: No, I noticed neither of you have said anything about

2185
01:38:11,079 --> 01:38:11,600
watching it.

2186
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:18,279
Speaker 2: I just I just don't want to be spoil the

2187
01:38:18,359 --> 01:38:21,319
high stuff in particular. I'm just trying not to get

2188
01:38:21,319 --> 01:38:23,159
spoiled on it right now. It's you know, the Lord.

2189
01:38:23,159 --> 01:38:29,640
It's a big time for the Hiles. Going to finish

2190
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:30,720
the Severn finale tonight.

2191
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,279
Speaker 1: I caught up on White Lotus. We have not started severnce.

2192
01:38:33,319 --> 01:38:37,560
I think that's our next show, White Lotus. Uh oh.

2193
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:39,880
In general, how are you liking the season compared to

2194
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,399
the first is? What is? No White Lotus.

2195
01:38:43,159 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 3: Lotus is much more of a slow burn this season,

2196
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,720
in my opinion, I think they all are right like

2197
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:51,840
the all the hook is like somebody dies, but the

2198
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:56,840
actual show is about watching these characters slowly transform and

2199
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,439
things like Bubble up to the surface to the degree

2200
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:04,079
that things start happening towards the final episode, maybe the

2201
01:39:04,119 --> 01:39:07,319
second to last episode. I just feel like the first episode,

2202
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,279
a lot of shit happened, right Like there was like

2203
01:39:09,319 --> 01:39:12,079
a lady who like was pregnant and I ended up

2204
01:39:12,079 --> 01:39:14,279
giving birth ing them. There was a lot going on

2205
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,560
in the in the first season, and in the second

2206
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,199
season this is slower like a birth in.

2207
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:25,279
Speaker 1: The first season. Yes, I just water bike, oh sure, sure, sure, yes, yes, yes,

2208
01:39:25,399 --> 01:39:26,960
very early on the staffer.

2209
01:39:27,399 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 3: But that like first episode is really stressful. I would say,

2210
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:33,479
like in this one, the stress is not from like

2211
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,640
a crazy thing that happens. The stress is from character

2212
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,399
dynamics that are like really intense. If you're paying attention

2213
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,159
to the dialogue and what's going on. There's like these

2214
01:39:43,199 --> 01:39:47,119
three iconic ladies. They're like a little like they're older,

2215
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:50,600
and they're stunningly beautiful. But every time one of them leaves,

2216
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,359
the other two talk about the person who's left. That

2217
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:57,880
is a very stressful dynamic to me. So, yeah, maybe

2218
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,920
there isn't crazy things happening all the time, but the

2219
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:05,319
dynamics between these these characters are very stressful. It's different,

2220
01:40:05,399 --> 01:40:08,159
it's stressful in a different way. This season, I'm liking it.

2221
01:40:08,199 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 1: I don't.

2222
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:09,399
Speaker 3: I don't dislike it.

2223
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: I like season one a bit more than two. However,

2224
01:40:14,119 --> 01:40:16,560
the character work in this season is really really good.

2225
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,600
It's really good Walton Goggins. I love this renaissance he's

2226
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,880
having with this and Fallout.

2227
01:40:22,319 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's great and what a totally different character than

2228
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:29,039
its Fallout character, but both so well done. He's a

2229
01:40:29,079 --> 01:40:33,079
tremendous actor. I also like whoever plays his girlfriend with

2230
01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:36,439
the teeth. She's amazing. I'm trying not to be disrespectful

2231
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:37,079
because I find.

2232
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:38,039
Speaker 1: Her stunningly beautiful.

2233
01:40:38,199 --> 01:40:40,359
Speaker 3: Yes, but if you were to describe her, I would

2234
01:40:40,399 --> 01:40:42,840
say she's super hot, and she's got big old teeth,

2235
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:47,399
and she she's a great actor. She owns that role entirely.

2236
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:48,479
I think she's phenomenal.

2237
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Patrick Schwarzenegger is so fucking good at being a huge douchebag.

2238
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 2: Schwarzinger's good in this. Yeah, he's like, oh wow.

2239
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,239
Speaker 1: His name is Saxon and he from this very white

2240
01:41:01,359 --> 01:41:04,039
like North Carolina Duke Chapel Hill family.

2241
01:41:04,079 --> 01:41:07,359
Speaker 3: He reminds me of Johnny every time he comes into

2242
01:41:07,359 --> 01:41:10,920
a scene. He's just like bebe Is and They're like,

2243
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,199
what are you talking about? He's like anyway, like, check

2244
01:41:13,239 --> 01:41:15,039
out my fucking dick, and then he like walks away.

2245
01:41:15,399 --> 01:41:20,199
Very he was acting, but that that's a good actor, right,

2246
01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:23,199
Like he's created a real hateable, punchable guy.

2247
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,359
Speaker 1: And I feel like all the time he spends talking

2248
01:41:26,359 --> 01:41:28,640
about his body and working out is just making fun

2249
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,199
of his dad. But it's it's dad, right, not that.

2250
01:41:31,279 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2251
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and is he the maid son when he has

2252
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,319
an affair with the maid?

2253
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:39,199
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.

2254
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,359
Speaker 3: Oh that's crazy. That's behind the scenes because because Arnold

2255
01:41:43,399 --> 01:41:47,119
Schwarzenegger famously had a kid out of wedlock with his maid,

2256
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,640
I understand. I think this is full blood, but I

2257
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:49,920
don't know.

2258
01:41:50,119 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to do that based.

2259
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,359
Speaker 3: On the fact that he really looks like Arnold, like.

2260
01:41:54,079 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 1: He's got Arnold vibes he does. So go watch uh,

2261
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:02,319
Vinnie and Mike save the world on fire Escape, and

2262
01:42:02,359 --> 01:42:05,119
then go watch Vinian Mike destroy the world on Next Lander.

2263
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,680
All right, we got some emails from uh Mary. Do

2264
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,880
you want to read this? First one from Rich from Pennsylvania.

2265
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:16,199
Speaker 3: Chat up, guys, I live in Philadelphia area and growing

2266
01:42:16,239 --> 01:42:18,880
up we always referred to Italian ice as water ice.

2267
01:42:19,039 --> 01:42:21,319
It wasn't until I was a full grown adult that

2268
01:42:21,399 --> 01:42:24,039
I realized that to anyone not from the area, water

2269
01:42:24,079 --> 01:42:26,600
ice just sounds like ice. Did you grow up with

2270
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,439
any weird regional names for things that you didn't realize

2271
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,079
were weird until years later. I know people in Minnesota

2272
01:42:32,119 --> 01:42:35,399
also allegedly refer to duck duck goose as duck duck,

2273
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,880
gray duck. That's fucked up right, all the best rich

2274
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,920
from Pennsylvania. I had no idea that you could say

2275
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:42,000
gray duck. That's weird.

2276
01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:45,199
Speaker 2: It's not allegedly, that is definitely it's the only state

2277
01:42:45,279 --> 01:42:47,199
in the country where it's not duck doug goose, it's

2278
01:42:47,279 --> 01:42:48,199
duck duck, gray duck.

2279
01:42:48,399 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird, Mary, you wrote one down. I don't know

2280
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,079
if this is regional or just you're being weird when

2281
01:42:54,199 --> 01:42:54,560
you say this.

2282
01:42:55,119 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 3: Everyone from Ohio says recpcs No.

2283
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 2: That's a weird thing. I ate a good chunk of

2284
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,560
a five pound bag of Reese's Pieces on Wednesday, and

2285
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,880
I was saying Reese's pieces every time I ate some.

2286
01:43:06,279 --> 01:43:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just ate a good chunk of a five

2287
01:43:08,279 --> 01:43:11,079
pound bag. How many pounds was a good chunk? Well?

2288
01:43:11,159 --> 01:43:12,319
Speaker 2: For the Et.

2289
01:43:12,359 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 1: They have five pound bags of Reese's pieces.

2290
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 2: Yes, Jeff Creb sent me five pounds of Reese's pieces

2291
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:19,319
that I had to shove through the mouth hoole of

2292
01:43:19,359 --> 01:43:21,479
an et mask for work on Wednesday.

2293
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 3: You did not have to do any of this.

2294
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm an artist, yours is a noble profession. Yes, I've

2295
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,840
heard people Saye's pieces, but it's I don't think it's

2296
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,359
a region. It's ohioh Grub says it too, and Mike.

2297
01:43:37,159 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 2: Wait, no, because maybe it's not Reagional, because I remember.

2298
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,319
Speaker 1: I think it's just Mary and like I've heard years ago,

2299
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:43,640
but they're not from Ohio.

2300
01:43:44,239 --> 01:43:46,119
Speaker 2: Louis c K says it that way, and we're seeing

2301
01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:48,479
him years ago when he said res PCs. Yeah, is

2302
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,680
he from Ohio? No, he's in New Yor. Well, he

2303
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:51,600
grew up in Mexico.

2304
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 1: I think Luis c K grew up in Mexico.

2305
01:43:54,039 --> 01:43:55,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like half Mexican.

2306
01:43:55,239 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a classic Mexican accent.

2307
01:43:59,079 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's just a Mary and Louis c K thing.

2308
01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes want to be a PECS. And I just

2309
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:09,960
think I'm going to die one day. I don't know.

2310
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:13,000
I can't do Louise. Okay, I shouldn't. I probably shouldn't.

2311
01:44:13,399 --> 01:44:16,199
Speaker 3: Probably not. So I try to think of like weird

2312
01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:17,760
dialects regional stuff.

2313
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,119
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the regional stuff from like Syracuse, well,

2314
01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:24,680
Syracuse itself. The pronunciation I think we've talked about We've

2315
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:27,399
definitely talked about this on fire Escape before, like way earlier.

2316
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,399
There's some listeners from Syracuse, and I think they got

2317
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,880
in an argument with me, or rather emailed in saying

2318
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:37,279
it looks like Syracuse and it's named after the Sicilian

2319
01:44:37,319 --> 01:44:42,279
city Syracusa. But everybody I grew up with who's from

2320
01:44:42,319 --> 01:44:44,640
there did not pronounce it like that. They pronounce it

2321
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,880
Syracuse like Sarahcuse instead of Syracuse.

2322
01:44:48,079 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 2: I would trust the people who live there, right.

2323
01:44:50,239 --> 01:44:52,279
Speaker 1: But there's other people who do who also live there

2324
01:44:52,279 --> 01:44:54,199
and emailed me saying I'm from here and I pronounce

2325
01:44:54,199 --> 01:44:57,520
it Syracuse. But I remember our like our chancellor at

2326
01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:59,960
SU when I was going to before I graduated, email

2327
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,319
all that all the students with like a it was

2328
01:45:02,359 --> 01:45:04,279
supposed to be a fun community building is like are

2329
01:45:04,319 --> 01:45:06,560
you a deer or a bear? Do you say Syracuse

2330
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:11,479
or Syracuse? Uh? And like most people who are from there,

2331
01:45:12,039 --> 01:45:14,000
of which there were not that many because people come

2332
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,319
from everywhere to go to ask. You were saying, no,

2333
01:45:16,359 --> 01:45:20,479
we say Syracuse. The Syracuse was just too it's easier

2334
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,399
to say Syracuse and like there's a specific kind of

2335
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:27,960
drawl from Syracuse that like, I don't say trailer, that's

2336
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,600
too hard on my vocal cords. Yeah, I said trout.

2337
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:32,079
But again there's other people who are like, I'm from

2338
01:45:32,119 --> 01:45:33,960
here and I don't say it like that. You're a moron.

2339
01:45:34,279 --> 01:45:37,399
Speaker 2: You said Syracuse so much now that my brain is

2340
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,800
refusing to acknowledge it as a word, and I can't

2341
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,079
remember how I used to say, Oh, there's a cool word.

2342
01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:46,399
Speaker 1: There's a cool phrase for that. Uh, semantic satiation happens,

2343
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:49,520
somatic satiation or something like that. It's a cool phrase.

2344
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 3: It's like when you say, like the word potato so

2345
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,000
much and you're like, that's crazy that that's even a

2346
01:45:54,039 --> 01:45:55,640
word potato.

2347
01:45:55,359 --> 01:45:59,199
Speaker 1: Clitorris clit taoris, clittoris, clittoris cloris.

2348
01:45:59,319 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 2: Joe Montanas like Joe Montana, that's not a guy. That's

2349
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,000
not even a series of words that Joe Montana doesn't

2350
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,239
mean anything. That Cartoon Network character. He's not a all

2351
01:46:07,319 --> 01:46:10,279
time Court Montana. That's like, I must be misremembering this.

2352
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, g spot, G spot, G spots, I mean the clitus.

2353
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:19,199
Neither of them exists, so it works. What the fuck?

2354
01:46:19,239 --> 01:46:22,159
Where we talk? Oh, regional stuff, most of the regional stuff?

2355
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,600
Uh Syracuse? Has I mentioned Syracuse because I was gonna say,

2356
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:30,520
we have regional cuisine. Uh chicken chicken speedies from the

2357
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,479
stay Air, which'm actually gonna make the night speedy. Oh yeah,

2358
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,560
cuisine not in the sense, and it's fancy cuisine, just

2359
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:36,319
like regional food.

2360
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 3: I mean chicken speedies.

2361
01:46:39,199 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, some nice Papa musavice and some chicken speedies.

2362
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:46,279
Speaker 2: Do you say little smokies?

2363
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:48,079
Speaker 1: Never heard of that before.

2364
01:46:48,279 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 2: Oh maybe that's little sausages. Yeah, like little hot dogs.

2365
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,319
Speaker 3: You gotta have little smokies and you and whoever when

2366
01:46:55,359 --> 01:46:57,560
you make maybe one of the moms comes with a

2367
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,640
fucking crock pot and she's like, I have the little

2368
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,720
smoke key and they're always smoking cross pot with like barbecues.

2369
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:06,560
Speaker 1: Why from the white latuce right there, I got a

2370
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:14,000
little smokies. Where's my little rezipam pipernet I brought? I'm

2371
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:18,840
I missing my pails. I salt potatoes. Salt potatoes are

2372
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,359
a thing in Syracuse as well. You literally boil potatoes

2373
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,319
in salt water and then you serve them with melted

2374
01:47:24,359 --> 01:47:26,159
butter and some like green onions.

2375
01:47:26,399 --> 01:47:27,119
Speaker 2: Sounds pretty good.

2376
01:47:27,159 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 1: Oh, it's good, it's great. It's just like Amanda when

2377
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:30,720
she first met me and I was telling her, I

2378
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,560
was like, yeah, we had like salt potatoes at the barbecue,

2379
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:34,720
Like what the fuck are those? And it's just you

2380
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,239
boil them in salt water. There's probably some nuances that

2381
01:47:37,239 --> 01:47:40,479
I'm not familiar with, but phrasing.

2382
01:47:40,079 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 2: Wise, we had the stuff where it's like everyone else

2383
01:47:43,119 --> 01:47:45,600
got soda pop hop, like you know, definitely grew up

2384
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:47,479
like every soda was a coke at one point. I

2385
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:48,680
don't think I heard pop much.

2386
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: I didn't either. We were soda.

2387
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:51,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2388
01:47:51,239 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 3: I think we used pop in Ohio, which is yeah.

2389
01:47:54,079 --> 01:47:58,319
But I think interchangeably you could use soda. But if

2390
01:47:58,359 --> 01:48:00,680
I asked for for me, if I were to ask

2391
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:02,319
for something right now, I'd be like, oh, I don't

2392
01:48:02,319 --> 01:48:04,439
want to pop, Like I would probably still say pop.

2393
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,560
Speaker 2: I think i'd say soda. Yeah.

2394
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: Water ice from Rich from the email is very weird.

2395
01:48:10,039 --> 01:48:12,239
I have a one of my good friends is from Philly.

2396
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,359
The way that people from Philly and Long Island say

2397
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:22,840
water is weird, the Philly water that's odd. I like it,

2398
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:24,119
It's got a nice ring to it, but I don't

2399
01:48:24,119 --> 01:48:28,960
say it like that, Oh are you? Are you? If? Okay,

2400
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,359
if you're waiting in a queue to get into a store,

2401
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:32,439
how would you phrase that?

2402
01:48:33,319 --> 01:48:35,239
Speaker 2: I've heard this. You're in line, You're in line?

2403
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mary, how would you phrase it?

2404
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,560
Speaker 3: My instinct is to also say I'm in line?

2405
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I think it's like a New York

2406
01:48:43,199 --> 01:48:44,960
thing to say online.

2407
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 2: Bank and her family all say, and then there's a

2408
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:51,359
lot of water going on there too, Yeah, yeah, although

2409
01:48:51,399 --> 01:48:55,960
you know what it's not. It's water w like O

2410
01:48:55,960 --> 01:49:00,840
O T E. It's like a lot to Long Island.

2411
01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, water almost, but like yeah, it's I think it's

2412
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,560
Jersey New York is online, I know, back of our

2413
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:11,560
you know, like the Long Islanders and Jersey. Jersey folks

2414
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,119
say Mario a lot.

2415
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,560
Speaker 2: That's that's just actually wrong.

2416
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I like, because yeah, I think in Italian

2417
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,039
wouldn't what would Mario be in Italent?

2418
01:49:21,079 --> 01:49:21,119
Speaker 2: Like?

2419
01:49:21,119 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 1: How would the I.

2420
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,159
Speaker 2: Think the argument is that like, oh yeah, on the

2421
01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:26,119
East coast wherever, there's a lot of guys named Mario

2422
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:30,520
pronounced Mario, but not that Mario. He says his own

2423
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,960
fucking name all the time to one of the like

2424
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,199
five words he says to me Mario. Guess he says Mario.

2425
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 1: I think the argument there is like Japanese developers, wouldn't

2426
01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:41,880
they fucked it up when they were making Mario.

2427
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm just listening to the man say his own name.

2428
01:49:44,239 --> 01:49:49,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess he would know to me Mario, Yeah, inline.

2429
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,560
I feel like there's another one that's always throws me

2430
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:54,640
off' worsh.

2431
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:56,680
Speaker 2: I would hear. My grandma is from the South and

2432
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:59,600
she would say worsh instead of oh, like.

2433
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,359
Speaker 1: Wash, yeah, yeah, I put in the wor. Yeah, there's

2434
01:50:02,399 --> 01:50:04,640
a I went to. I think you two know. I

2435
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,159
think I've talked about it before. I went to University

2436
01:50:06,199 --> 01:50:10,279
of Arkansas for two years and my ex's grandparents lived

2437
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:14,119
on Grand Lake in Oklahoma, which is a gorgeous little

2438
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:15,760
pocket of the country. If you've never been to Lake

2439
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,560
Country in Oklahoma, go if you're around, go check it out.

2440
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:24,399
Uh there's a place in Oklahoma that is spelled m

2441
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:28,319
I A m I Miami.

2442
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2443
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 1: It's not how they fucking say it. It is Miama, Miama.

2444
01:50:33,279 --> 01:50:35,159
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and Missouri.

2445
01:50:35,399 --> 01:50:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, Missouri and Miama. Yeah, it's a very Parker,

2446
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:43,319
posey in white lotus way of saying Miami, and that

2447
01:50:43,359 --> 01:50:46,600
always threw me off. But I kind of like Miamah.

2448
01:50:46,039 --> 01:50:47,199
Speaker 2: Kind of like that. I don't like Missouri.

2449
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:50,399
Speaker 1: I don't like Missouri. I don't like the state or

2450
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:53,199
how it Yeah, just about listeners, but.

2451
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 2: To them get out of state, Yeah, it's not good.

2452
01:50:58,399 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I spent a lot, not nearly as much time

2453
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:02,399
as Dan, I've spent a lot of time there, and

2454
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:08,359
I was always I'd rather read Oklahoma. Yeah, but yeah,

2455
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:10,960
it was always the stair. I'm actually curious if anybody

2456
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:14,640
from Syracuse says Syracuse because it's just too I actually

2457
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,119
get kind of tired saying Syracuse. It like wears me

2458
01:51:17,159 --> 01:51:18,960
out a bit. It's too just a strain on my

2459
01:51:19,039 --> 01:51:24,000
vocal cords trailer Syracuse Alien Alien.

2460
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:27,079
Speaker 3: I feel like you, Ohio. Well, least where I was

2461
01:51:27,159 --> 01:51:30,600
growing up, it wasn't so much that we that we

2462
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:34,000
said very specific words differently, but Valley girl accent is

2463
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:39,920
like very normalized there, and so just saying things with

2464
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:43,039
a strange inflection upwards that everything is like a question

2465
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,920
is very normal, but I don't know if like there's

2466
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:50,439
a very particular use case for an individual world word,

2467
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,800
whereas it's just like, you know, do you know where

2468
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,159
I can get a smoothie around here? Is like very

2469
01:51:55,279 --> 01:51:56,800
normal to talk like that.

2470
01:51:58,279 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 2: I don't like that. It's just not good. Yeah. Here,

2471
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,239
you get a lot of like the Minnesota people that

2472
01:52:06,239 --> 01:52:08,760
are just like any double o. It's like broom roof,

2473
01:52:09,319 --> 01:52:11,880
you know, like a lot of just like, yeah, I

2474
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,760
had me a broom like Tim Turry is like the

2475
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:14,880
most Minnesota man ever.

2476
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:19,279
Speaker 1: Tim. Tim's pronunciation of Boston is funny to me. Boston.

2477
01:52:20,199 --> 01:52:21,920
He says like, oh, yeah, we're going to Boston for

2478
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:23,199
Pax East, Like.

2479
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:25,399
Speaker 2: He's saying it with like a Boston accent.

2480
01:52:26,119 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it's just like the O is a

2481
01:52:28,119 --> 01:52:30,199
very hard O instead of an a W.

2482
01:52:30,279 --> 01:52:36,319
Speaker 3: Boston says mom, like ma'am, And sometimes that confuses me.

2483
01:52:37,279 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 1: My sister is the only one in our family who

2484
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:45,199
just has a like a where's Fargo, Dakota, Minnesota, North Dakota.

2485
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,960
My sister just has an Upper Midwest accent. I don't

2486
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:50,600
know where she got it. Her husband's not from the

2487
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:55,760
Upper Midwest. We are not she like, I don't know

2488
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:56,520
where she got it.

2489
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,359
Speaker 2: Would you truly for me to have any kind of accent? Uh?

2490
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:02,039
Speaker 1: Nothing stands out. I don't see.

2491
01:53:02,279 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 2: I do feel like that Midwestern, like like this is

2492
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:06,680
up for Midwestern. There is a Minnesota accent, but I'm

2493
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:08,640
not from here, so like, I just feel like Kansas

2494
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:11,439
is in the Midwest. Midwest doesn't have much of one.

2495
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:15,039
Speaker 1: You do say some stuff, how would you? Uh? You

2496
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:19,520
kind of have the George Bush pronunciation of nuclear, don't you.

2497
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,279
Speaker 2: No, Because there's an an accurate way of saying it

2498
01:53:21,279 --> 01:53:24,159
where you say nuclear, but it's well no, wait, it's

2499
01:53:24,159 --> 01:53:27,000
not no, that is the correct one. Nucular is the

2500
01:53:27,039 --> 01:53:30,279
wrong one. Nuclear is the right one. Yes, nucular is

2501
01:53:30,319 --> 01:53:32,640
the wrong way to do it. W fan over, I'm

2502
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,920
not thinking about clear Are you pro?

2503
01:53:36,399 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 1: Are you pro? Operation Iraqi? Freedom to Dan?

2504
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:40,039
Speaker 2: That was quite a jug, Mike.

2505
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Dan is a big book.

2506
01:53:42,039 --> 01:53:43,520
Speaker 2: The mission got accomplished, did it not?

2507
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,239
Speaker 3: The classic W.

2508
01:53:49,039 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 1: Closeted Cheney fan this whole time? One hundred three episodes

2509
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:56,199
in And finally about these tariffs, Dan, what do you

2510
01:53:56,239 --> 01:53:59,720
think about Halliburton and their oil interests? Dan?

2511
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 2: Uh, They're bad?

2512
01:54:03,199 --> 01:54:04,039
Speaker 1: I thought I had him.

2513
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:07,520
Speaker 3: He gets away for another episode.

2514
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,119
Speaker 1: Dan is always on his toes when it comes to politics.

2515
01:54:11,119 --> 01:54:17,439
I I'll get him. God masterful Perry Dan. Thank you

2516
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:19,720
Richard Pennsylvania. Dan, do you want to read this one?

2517
01:54:21,239 --> 01:54:22,920
It's from Actually hold on while you read it?

2518
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 2: All I say it notes on there. Hello, what's the

2519
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:32,039
worst name for the best thing? Anything? Food, movie, game, book, hobby, sex, position,

2520
01:54:32,079 --> 01:54:34,279
you name it. I'm a big fan of the Australian

2521
01:54:34,279 --> 01:54:37,079
band King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. I don't hate

2522
01:54:37,079 --> 01:54:38,600
the name, but I know a lot of people who do,

2523
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:40,800
and it legitimately makes them hard to recommend to people

2524
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:44,119
who I know would love their fantastic discography. That's left

2525
01:54:44,119 --> 01:54:47,239
from the West Coast, Australia. Simon PS, please don't tear

2526
01:54:47,239 --> 01:54:48,000
if my email.

2527
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't want Simon from Australia. It's not the same

2528
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:52,079
one though.

2529
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 2: The same way, you know. Yeah, let's tear. I got

2530
01:54:55,840 --> 01:55:01,199
a couple for a bad so good thing. I mean,

2531
01:55:01,479 --> 01:55:03,159
I don't consider this the best thing, but it was

2532
01:55:03,279 --> 01:55:06,119
very big for a while. Pubg uh, you know, like

2533
01:55:06,199 --> 01:55:09,920
that was a fucking terrible player. Unknowns Battleground. Yeah, that's

2534
01:55:10,119 --> 01:55:11,079
a terrible name.

2535
01:55:11,319 --> 01:55:13,399
Speaker 3: That's a really great example.

2536
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:17,399
Speaker 1: Dan, such a bad name, right with ship like that?

2537
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 2: A lot of ones are too many colon's and you know,

2538
01:55:20,119 --> 01:55:23,520
too many subtitles and stuff. There's a movie Mary learned

2539
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:27,079
about during your wedding thing, Sorcerer, which it is not

2540
01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:29,079
at all indicative of what the movie is about. It's

2541
01:55:29,079 --> 01:55:34,760
about driving trucks that had dynamite in them precariously and Sorcerer, right,

2542
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:36,199
we thought about that one before.

2543
01:55:36,239 --> 01:55:37,439
Speaker 3: You love that movie.

2544
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:39,159
Speaker 2: Incredible movie. Bad name.

2545
01:55:39,279 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sorcer doesn't even make sense.

2546
01:55:41,279 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't at all, like not on its own,

2547
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,199
a bad name, but for that movie, it's a bad

2548
01:55:45,279 --> 01:55:47,239
name because that's not indicative at all.

2549
01:55:49,079 --> 01:55:58,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that there's movies I don't. I don't know

2550
01:55:58,479 --> 01:56:01,600
if this person listens to the podcast, Dan, I'm not.

2551
01:56:02,119 --> 01:56:04,199
Can you see what's resting on top of my Rambo

2552
01:56:04,279 --> 01:56:07,000
Steel book? You have signed a mission.

2553
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,359
Speaker 2: To me to give mission impossible?

2554
01:56:10,439 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it's a DVD.

2555
01:56:12,359 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you're talking about. You're saying that's

2556
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:14,920
a bad.

2557
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: Title, bad radio. No. I was just thinking I was

2558
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,680
looking at my in my background. This is a complete

2559
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:24,520
not like tangent. I just no, not at all. I

2560
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:26,239
just noticed it was right there, and Dan and I

2561
01:56:26,239 --> 01:56:27,680
haven't talked about it yet in this episode.

2562
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:29,039
Speaker 2: Oh no, I understand what.

2563
01:56:29,119 --> 01:56:31,199
Speaker 1: I don't think this person listens to the show. Okay,

2564
01:56:31,239 --> 01:56:33,880
I'll explain it someday and then this whole terrible They

2565
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,720
will all laugh. Tangent will makes sense.

2566
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 3: More, Ali and the laser eyes.

2567
01:56:39,159 --> 01:56:41,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Video games are there so many?

2568
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 3: Warhammer forty thousand, Dawn of War, Soul Strong.

2569
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:51,159
Speaker 1: Total Total War, Warhammer three, everything in that Wherealm is bad.

2570
01:56:51,439 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll do my rare wrestling thing with you. Guys,

2571
01:56:54,159 --> 01:56:57,720
say you have you heard of the Steiner brothers vaguely? Okay?

2572
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,239
There was? There were classics in the eighties nineties, Rick

2573
01:57:00,319 --> 01:57:02,800
Steiner and Scott Steiner. They were just dudes from Michigan

2574
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:04,000
that would come just beat the shit out of you.

2575
01:57:04,079 --> 01:57:05,840
They were awesome. They were known as the Steiner Brothers.

2576
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,439
All the Rooms, the Steiner Recliner, the Franken Steiner, all

2577
01:57:08,479 --> 01:57:10,840
that everyone knows miss the Steiners. Rick Steiner has a

2578
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,720
son who's now a big deal in w A U. E.

2579
01:57:13,159 --> 01:57:15,079
He looks like his dad, he talks like his uncle.

2580
01:57:15,079 --> 01:57:17,439
He's fucking awesome. You think you just call his real

2581
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:20,520
name is Braun reck Steiner, which is a cool fucking

2582
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:25,039
name they named. But they named him bron Breaker, which

2583
01:57:25,079 --> 01:57:27,840
it's like he's a fucking Steiner. Call him bron Steiner,

2584
01:57:28,199 --> 01:57:31,439
Like bron Breaker is stupid as fuck, right, Yes, yeah,

2585
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:35,560
call him a Steiner anyway. Every just about wrestling, Mike.

2586
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:45,479
Speaker 1: I agree. The country Turkey, Mmm, I've never been I

2587
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:46,399
heard that not anymore.

2588
01:57:46,399 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 2: Didn't they change it or something I thought I'd referred

2589
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,600
to as like get a different name Turky or something.

2590
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why why are they not conforming to my understanding

2591
01:57:54,319 --> 01:57:54,760
of Turkey?

2592
01:57:55,119 --> 01:57:57,039
Speaker 2: Oh? I know, Mary's got to be thrilled now because

2593
01:57:57,039 --> 01:57:58,319
it's not the Gulf of Mexico anymore.

2594
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:01,159
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mary, you haven't been annoying the ship out

2595
01:58:01,159 --> 01:58:02,119
of us about Yeah.

2596
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:03,199
Speaker 2: We get it. Yeah, you love it.

2597
01:58:03,239 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: You're like party hat golf of Americas over here. Yeah.

2598
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,800
Also you've been like you've been. She sent us this

2599
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:14,720
map of Canada with like red lines from America into.

2600
01:58:14,479 --> 01:58:16,479
Speaker 2: It in Greenland. She's big on Greenland. Ship.

2601
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:21,319
Speaker 1: Now it's like the seventy sixth Tank Division and then

2602
01:58:21,359 --> 01:58:25,560
it's a line up Vancouver. It's weird, weird. You got

2603
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:26,000
to stop.

2604
01:58:26,439 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't need to hate expanding. You guys

2605
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:32,960
want to shrink your territory. What's going on here?

2606
01:58:33,119 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

2607
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, nuke the whales got a nuke something. You guys

2608
01:58:39,319 --> 01:58:40,840
want to not not grow.

2609
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:46,479
Speaker 2: That's what you always say. That's a fun I don't

2610
01:58:46,479 --> 01:58:47,920
even know what I think.

2611
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,079
Speaker 1: It's a great name for the first time recently. It's good.

2612
01:58:50,279 --> 01:58:52,840
That's like a great name. I describe it. It's almost

2613
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,960
like a mini chicken cutlet, but with other herbs in

2614
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:57,880
the breading, and it's like a It's a big pub

2615
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:00,720
food in Australia. So we did an Australian pairing night

2616
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:04,760
recently and my friend from Australia, well, his wife made them.

2617
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,720
I should put a caviar on top. So I don't

2618
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:08,399
know if that was like.

2619
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 2: I was at an Australian pairing night and then this

2620
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:14,840
person on top, Mike, you are you have descended so

2621
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,199
far into self parody like.

2622
01:59:17,359 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 3: That such a common food, there's no reason to put

2623
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:21,560
caviar on.

2624
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 1: You can put caviar. Oh, that was the first caviar.

2625
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:26,039
Have you guys had caviar before?

2626
01:59:26,399 --> 01:59:28,399
Speaker 2: I had caviar on a cool restrito.

2627
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:30,840
Speaker 1: Suddenly I'm not the only boogie one of the podcast

2628
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:32,920
on a cool rest rito. Yes, you put it on chips.

2629
01:59:33,199 --> 01:59:35,479
I did once. Yes, I get it. It's yeah, you

2630
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,520
were there, right, yep, yeah, yeah. He told me to

2631
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:39,880
dress up for this party, and you showed up in

2632
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:41,199
w W T shirt.

2633
01:59:41,479 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 2: The are you talking about?

2634
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 1: You said, let's go to existing conditions for New Year's Eve.

2635
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:49,640
Don Lee, who's who's like a friend of Giant Bomb East,

2636
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:52,960
is hosting it. It's one of his cocktails. And you

2637
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:54,920
said it's gonna be pretty like there's gonna be people

2638
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:56,760
dressed up. So I come in like a sport coat

2639
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:59,479
and chinos and you're in a WWET shirt.

2640
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:02,399
Speaker 2: I have pictures of us from that night. I'm wearing

2641
02:00:02,399 --> 02:00:04,800
a nice buttonup shirt. What the fuck are you talking about?

2642
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:09,439
Speaker 1: I promise you you're not. And I remember there.

2643
02:00:09,399 --> 02:00:11,119
Speaker 2: Was a New Year's Eve before it was twenty nineteen,

2644
02:00:11,119 --> 02:00:12,560
going in twenty twenty because I was about to start

2645
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:15,039
working in w DOE. I'm wearing a button up shirt.

2646
02:00:15,079 --> 02:00:16,800
I could clearly prove you wrong on this.

2647
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:19,479
Speaker 1: If show me a photo of you had existing conditions

2648
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:23,359
where you're not wearing a T shirt, Okay, I would

2649
02:00:23,399 --> 02:00:25,399
love to, all right, see it.

2650
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 3: When I got the opportunity to freelance for my very

2651
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:34,439
first time at game Spot for E three. I said,

2652
02:00:34,439 --> 02:00:36,640
what's the dress code? And the person who got me

2653
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:40,520
the job said, it's business casual. So I went to

2654
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:42,880
a store and I bought a nice pair of dress

2655
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:45,960
slacks and a simple pair of flat black dress shoes

2656
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:49,520
and a white collared like not like a fancy shirt,

2657
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,760
but like a like a nice white shirt that would

2658
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:55,640
go well with these black slacks. And I walked in

2659
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:57,640
on the first day of E three and all you

2660
02:00:57,720 --> 02:01:03,840
motherfuckers were wearing like chili sta nasty ass raggedy clothes,

2661
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:06,439
and I looked like I had just come in from

2662
02:01:06,479 --> 02:01:11,000
some kind of business meeting. And I went to his

2663
02:01:11,079 --> 02:01:13,479
name is Jan he worked on the live team, and

2664
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:15,199
I was like, what the fuck, dude, and he was like, yeah,

2665
02:01:15,399 --> 02:01:17,079
it's a business and you dress casual.

2666
02:01:19,039 --> 02:01:19,840
Speaker 2: Business casual.

2667
02:01:20,039 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 1: Dan to you, I discorded you the picture. Of course,

2668
02:01:24,039 --> 02:01:26,039
all the photos. It's just you stole my phone. You

2669
02:01:26,079 --> 02:01:26,520
and bonk.

2670
02:01:28,199 --> 02:01:29,119
Speaker 2: I'd send you the picture.

2671
02:01:29,159 --> 02:01:31,920
Speaker 3: No, I will, I will say from an outsider, I've

2672
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:34,920
been looking at this picture. Michael is dressed up and

2673
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,840
wearing a nice suit with a tie, and he's got

2674
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:41,520
like four corners in his little pocket. And Dan, you're

2675
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:43,079
just wearing a fucking black shirt.

2676
02:01:45,319 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 2: Especially, I only had like, like if I had buttons

2677
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:50,279
on a shirt, that was me being fancy. I got,

2678
02:01:50,319 --> 02:01:53,840
I got more, but not a w W shirt.

2679
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 1: That's on me. I got. I look good though.

2680
02:01:56,279 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 3: I think there's like a Roman Reigns shadow in it.

2681
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 1: There's yeah, button for sure. That's a fun night. That

2682
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:06,279
was a good cocktails.

2683
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, great place.

2684
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm all tapped out on a weird phrasing

2685
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:18,560
for stuff. Uh, I will read the last one from Morgan.

2686
02:02:19,199 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

2687
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:22,359
Speaker 1: Hello, arsonists. I like that people have been saying that

2688
02:02:22,439 --> 02:02:24,920
it's cool I want to burn stuff. Congrats on making

2689
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:27,199
it to one hundred episodes. Thank you, Thank you, love

2690
02:02:27,279 --> 02:02:29,279
listening to you all every two weeks, and love the tournament.

2691
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,680
My question is, it's four am and your phone rings,

2692
02:02:32,159 --> 02:02:33,960
and it's one of your fellow co hosts and they're

2693
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:36,039
in jail. What do you think they did to get

2694
02:02:36,079 --> 02:02:38,600
locked up. I'll get the obvious ones out of the way,

2695
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:40,640
like Dan is calling Mike because he assaulted at Taco

2696
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:43,000
Bell employee because they actually put vegetables in his food.

2697
02:02:43,479 --> 02:02:45,760
Mary is calling Dan because she did nothing wrong, But

2698
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:47,960
for some reason, there's a New Jersey housewife missing and

2699
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:49,479
no one has seen her since she said something rude

2700
02:02:49,479 --> 02:02:51,319
to Mary. But Mary did nothing after that. Dot dot

2701
02:02:51,319 --> 02:02:53,079
dot dot dot dot. And of course Mike is calling

2702
02:02:53,159 --> 02:02:54,800
Mary to let her know that he's actually escape from

2703
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,239
jail and he's right outside her window. I love the podcast.

2704
02:02:57,239 --> 02:03:00,680
Here's to one hundred more. It's Morgan from New Orleans.

2705
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 2: In reality, we would get because I don't think any

2706
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:05,800
of us are like. We don't drink and dry. I

2707
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:08,439
never did no like no.

2708
02:03:09,079 --> 02:03:12,439
Speaker 1: I I if I had to pick something for Mary,

2709
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:14,479
I would actually think it might have had to do

2710
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:15,640
with her temper.

2711
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a fight. Yeah, I think for

2712
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:18,359
real would be a fight.

2713
02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:21,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I know I don't have.

2714
02:03:23,199 --> 02:03:27,039
Speaker 3: Literally perfect I would never kill anyone. I just think

2715
02:03:27,199 --> 02:03:35,720
it would cause a scene. But I don't harry.

2716
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 1: Like I picked you up and moved you across the bar.

2717
02:03:38,359 --> 02:03:41,279
Speaker 3: She tried to open the bathroom. That's assault. She should

2718
02:03:41,319 --> 02:03:41,880
be in jail.

2719
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:45,239
Speaker 1: She tried to open a door the fucking nerve.

2720
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 2: I actually think my answer for both of you is

2721
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:48,800
a fight at a bar.

2722
02:03:49,399 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I'd moved past that.

2723
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:55,680
Speaker 3: There was a time if we can just be reasonable

2724
02:03:56,159 --> 02:03:58,119
where that was the number one thing that would have

2725
02:03:58,119 --> 02:03:59,399
happened to Mike, and we all.

2726
02:03:59,319 --> 02:04:02,159
Speaker 1: Kind of like hell our breath agreed, But I don't when.

2727
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 3: You are a spicy boy. But I think that that

2728
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:09,039
time has passed. But there was a time where you

2729
02:04:09,039 --> 02:04:11,840
would looking at you sideways.

2730
02:04:12,359 --> 02:04:14,119
Speaker 2: I don't think any of us are going to jail,

2731
02:04:14,159 --> 02:04:17,079
but I do think most likely for Mike, if it

2732
02:04:17,119 --> 02:04:18,880
had to be something would still maybe be a fight.

2733
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:20,199
He still got it in him somewhere.

2734
02:04:20,319 --> 02:04:24,159
Speaker 1: No, No, it's gone now, Chakra, it's gone now.

2735
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:26,399
Speaker 3: I think it's possible that if there was like a

2736
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:30,000
museum and they were like, we're having a really unique

2737
02:04:30,159 --> 02:04:34,800
museum and we have original candy bars that are one

2738
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:38,039
of a kind, and these are iconic and they are special,

2739
02:04:38,119 --> 02:04:41,079
and they're not actually to be held. These are just

2740
02:04:41,159 --> 02:04:44,920
for people to view for historical accuracy. I could see

2741
02:04:45,159 --> 02:04:49,039
like Dan dropping down and not touching the laser ground

2742
02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:52,359
and like slowly making his way to the glass that

2743
02:04:52,399 --> 02:04:56,319
would be taken style. Yeah, like the splits and you

2744
02:04:56,359 --> 02:05:00,239
look so hot and you're like you're just like barely getting.

2745
02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:05,479
Speaker 1: That's not she doesn't do that in the movie.

2746
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:09,920
Speaker 3: Like you're doing the smoke. You see the lasers and yeah,

2747
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:13,159
you use your now to just borrow from Batman. You

2748
02:05:13,239 --> 02:05:17,000
like have the Catwoman claws and you make a perfect

2749
02:05:17,319 --> 02:05:20,479
circle out of the glass and you take out the

2750
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:28,600
original Uh it doesn't the very first one.

2751
02:05:28,479 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 1: Ever made, and you replace it with a bag of sand.

2752
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:37,840
That's of course, yeah, from every movie Perfect crime. Where

2753
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:41,880
does where does he go wrong? That gets him arrested? Yeah?

2754
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:45,319
Speaker 3: I mean I think that once he gets it and he.

2755
02:05:45,239 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 1: Likes leaves and forget, he walks the whole thing and.

2756
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:52,039
Speaker 2: A brag on a podcast about it, and then he

2757
02:05:52,119 --> 02:05:54,520
went through all over him.

2758
02:05:56,199 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 3: He's got the evidence everywhere.

2759
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:01,359
Speaker 1: He's at the security line in the airport and they

2760
02:06:01,399 --> 02:06:04,000
find this one of a kind unique candy bar in

2761
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:07,239
his bags, like, oh fuck, I forgot I had stolen this.

2762
02:06:08,079 --> 02:06:08,760
Speaker 3: You will call it.

2763
02:06:09,479 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm on the straight and narrow. They can't pin nothing

2764
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:11,920
on me.

2765
02:06:12,239 --> 02:06:14,239
Speaker 3: I think that they'll also get Dan for looking at

2766
02:06:14,279 --> 02:06:16,399
pervy games. I think that one.

2767
02:06:16,239 --> 02:06:19,000
Speaker 2: Day she is and I will blame Mary in court

2768
02:06:19,039 --> 02:06:20,560
and I'll say, like she told me to do it

2769
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:20,840
for us.

2770
02:06:20,920 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 3: I didn't know that Panny Sniffer RPG. Three thousand was bad.

2771
02:06:25,079 --> 02:06:27,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't tell me that, Dan.

2772
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 1: I could actually see Dan, you would get arrested because

2773
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:32,479
you didn't know something was illegal.

2774
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:34,119
Speaker 2: I could see that, and you did it right in.

2775
02:06:34,039 --> 02:06:35,760
Speaker 1: Front of several police officers.

2776
02:06:36,079 --> 02:06:36,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2777
02:06:36,319 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 1: I just don't know what that thing would be. But

2778
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:39,079
I could see you fainting.

2779
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:40,720
Speaker 3: Or not sitting two guns in the air.

2780
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:42,279
Speaker 1: You would be like, I didn't know this was illegal?

2781
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:43,399
Still illegal.

2782
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what the likely thing is is like

2783
02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:47,840
when I went to be somewhere that you can't like

2784
02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:50,319
get in easily or whatever. I always was, I'll just

2785
02:06:50,359 --> 02:06:53,199
walk straight in. I've tried to sneak backstage when I

2786
02:06:53,239 --> 02:06:54,960
was a teenager at so many different de witty events

2787
02:06:55,000 --> 02:06:58,520
and stuff like that. So like that teg oh, you

2788
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:00,760
tell me to do that a Madison Square guard something

2789
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:01,399
like talking.

2790
02:07:01,239 --> 02:07:03,479
Speaker 1: About this is one of my favorite Dan stories. Have

2791
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:05,600
we talked about We must have at some point, like

2792
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:08,199
a while ago, Dan and I went to It was

2793
02:07:08,239 --> 02:07:11,279
the Dan correct me if I'm wrong before I worked there. Correct.

2794
02:07:11,479 --> 02:07:14,359
This was like twenty nineteen. Yeah, twenty nineteen.

2795
02:07:14,359 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 3: You're lucky didn't put you on the list.

2796
02:07:16,359 --> 02:07:18,319
Speaker 1: It was the first time I believe Stone Cold was

2797
02:07:18,319 --> 02:07:19,680
back at MSG in a while.

2798
02:07:20,399 --> 02:07:22,319
Speaker 2: It was like a special, and we went and.

2799
02:07:22,239 --> 02:07:24,760
Speaker 1: We watched it, and then we were backstage because a

2800
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:28,640
friend of our, Broadway Alex knew several people that were

2801
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:32,840
helping with the broadcast, and basically we got wrote, we

2802
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:35,399
got We were walking out with Broadway Alex and a

2803
02:07:35,399 --> 02:07:38,600
few people to the street didn't realize we were leaving

2804
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:40,840
the backstage, and Dan was of course peeking out because

2805
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:41,960
he's a big fan of a lot of these people

2806
02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:43,840
that are hanging around, and again he hadn't worked there yet,

2807
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:44,640
so there was you know.

2808
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:46,399
Speaker 2: Like, oh my got Stone cold tried.

2809
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even I was. It was like cool

2810
02:07:48,760 --> 02:07:50,840
for them to be in their vicinity. And then we

2811
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:54,600
didn't really realize we were leaving. We were kind of

2812
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:57,000
in a conversation that was naturally walking toward an elevator,

2813
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:58,960
and then we were on the other Oh shit, we're leaving.

2814
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:00,520
We were just backstage and now we're gone. So of

2815
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:04,079
course Broadway Alex and uh and his friend at the

2816
02:08:04,119 --> 02:08:07,279
time leave and me and Dan are just waiting. We're like, well,

2817
02:08:07,319 --> 02:08:09,039
do we go home? And Dan's like, no, I want

2818
02:08:09,039 --> 02:08:10,960
to get back backstage. And of course it was an

2819
02:08:11,039 --> 02:08:14,520
MSG event, so like NYPD had been hired, like had

2820
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:16,800
been I don't know, contracted. However, it works to be

2821
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:20,359
secure run security around the exterior of MSG. When we

2822
02:08:20,359 --> 02:08:23,039
were backstage, shit, you know, we had met the dude

2823
02:08:23,039 --> 02:08:25,159
who was like in charge of getting us backstage and

2824
02:08:25,199 --> 02:08:29,880
his name was Chad. So here I am trying to

2825
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:32,479
convince Dan we're not getting back in because we had

2826
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:36,159
left drunk, and Dan is telling an NYPD officer who

2827
02:08:36,199 --> 02:08:38,039
had no idea of what the fuck was going. He's like, dude,

2828
02:08:38,079 --> 02:08:40,000
I was just my job is to guard this door

2829
02:08:40,039 --> 02:08:43,800
and not let anybody through this little shady no handle

2830
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:48,159
door on like the west side of MSG. And Dan's like, oh, no, no, no,

2831
02:08:48,079 --> 02:08:52,760
we're looking for Chad. He I was like, Dan, he

2832
02:08:52,840 --> 02:08:54,640
doesn't give a shit. He's not gonna let us back.

2833
02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:57,000
He's like, oh, we were Chad was helping us out.

2834
02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:59,399
He's no, Chad asked for Chad. The guy's like, I

2835
02:08:59,439 --> 02:09:02,680
have not been in, I don't care about wrestling. I

2836
02:09:03,039 --> 02:09:03,399
get off.

2837
02:09:03,439 --> 02:09:04,439
Speaker 3: I don't know Chad.

2838
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:06,840
Speaker 1: Two hours. I don't give a ship.

2839
02:09:08,439 --> 02:09:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, my brain is not processing that. I'm not getting

2840
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:12,439
my way, and I have a gun in a chat

2841
02:09:13,239 --> 02:09:17,199
Chad needs us just bugging this cop.

2842
02:09:17,359 --> 02:09:22,760
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, he I I was so I couldn't tell

2843
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:25,720
whether I was suffering second hand embarrassment or if it

2844
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:27,119
was hilarious. It was a little bit of.

2845
02:09:29,319 --> 02:09:31,119
Speaker 2: I just tried to butt my head again something until

2846
02:09:31,159 --> 02:09:33,680
I get my way, and I just could not realize, why,

2847
02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:35,239
why is this not working? Chad?

2848
02:09:35,439 --> 02:09:37,920
Speaker 1: That would absolutely, I think, be it what was happening?

2849
02:09:38,199 --> 02:09:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got another one for Dan, which is getting

2850
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:46,159
arrested for starting a public fight because he walked in

2851
02:09:46,359 --> 02:09:50,399
the exit of a bathroom because the entrance has a

2852
02:09:50,439 --> 02:09:53,800
line and he walks in the entrance that he doesn't

2853
02:09:54,079 --> 02:09:57,680
brand in line, and someone finally calls you out on it.

2854
02:09:58,359 --> 02:09:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

2855
02:09:59,039 --> 02:10:01,399
Speaker 2: But here's the thing I've It's been a long time

2856
02:10:01,479 --> 02:10:03,000
since I've done it, because I've typically been in the

2857
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:05,520
press box, which has a dedicated bathroom, which is amazing.

2858
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:07,960
But if I were I would do it again. I

2859
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:08,800
would do it again.

2860
02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 3: I know you would. And I think one day someone's

2861
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:11,399
gonna call your.

2862
02:10:11,359 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 2: Number, but they do sometimes, And this is how it goes.

2863
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:15,920
You start walking in the exit and you hear someone

2864
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:18,520
from down the line be like asshole, and by the

2865
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:20,640
time anything can be done, you're already in there. Pissing.

2866
02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan doesn't wait skip.

2867
02:10:26,359 --> 02:10:27,800
Speaker 2: The line and get in there to beat my ass.

2868
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:31,079
Speaker 1: No, oh god, yeah, it'd be funny.

2869
02:10:31,159 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 3: True, there's like a social contract that you're allowed to

2870
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:35,399
call someone an asshole for skipping the line, but you

2871
02:10:35,399 --> 02:10:37,199
don't want to get out of the line, right.

2872
02:10:37,239 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 2: You have to get out of line and then him

2873
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:39,840
like no, it's a.

2874
02:10:40,079 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to stay.

2875
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:42,359
Speaker 2: It's the perfect crime.

2876
02:10:42,760 --> 02:10:44,399
Speaker 1: What if but you if you run into him on

2877
02:10:44,399 --> 02:10:45,159
the way out.

2878
02:10:45,279 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 3: The perfect crime is no, lie, he has to peek.

2879
02:10:48,199 --> 02:10:50,760
Speaker 1: No, you're on the way out and he's in line

2880
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:53,000
and you have to walk by him, and he reached.

2881
02:10:53,039 --> 02:10:54,359
Speaker 2: He's not going to get out of line to kick

2882
02:10:54,399 --> 02:10:54,680
my ass.

2883
02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:56,840
Speaker 1: He has to pee, but you're walking right by him.

2884
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:57,840
He doesn't need to leave a spot.

2885
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,760
Speaker 2: I am just like a shot on the night. I'm

2886
02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:03,000
just like back to my seat, like it's just no,

2887
02:11:04,039 --> 02:11:04,880
it's perfect.

2888
02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect. I could see that being it too, But yeah, Marry,

2889
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:07,479
I think that's what.

2890
02:11:07,479 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 3: A perfect crime means. A perfect crime is like there's

2891
02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:11,920
no it's a victimless crime. There's like nothing that I.

2892
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:13,039
Speaker 2: Wouldn't know, they would know.

2893
02:11:13,079 --> 02:11:15,439
Speaker 1: Perfect crime is like there's literally no way to prove

2894
02:11:15,479 --> 02:11:17,000
it with you.

2895
02:11:17,039 --> 02:11:19,239
Speaker 2: Oh, it's very easy to prove it's me. There's probably

2896
02:11:19,239 --> 02:11:20,760
on camera at a million different arenas.

2897
02:11:21,039 --> 02:11:25,079
Speaker 1: I someone I know often flies to other cities and

2898
02:11:25,159 --> 02:11:28,439
kills people and leaves, just picks a random city. It's

2899
02:11:28,439 --> 02:11:30,199
someone I know, I don't know. Oh, I know it is,

2900
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:32,920
and he leaves and he comes back, and no one

2901
02:11:33,039 --> 02:11:34,359
there's body perfect crime.

2902
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:36,039
Speaker 2: The bodies are victimless.

2903
02:11:36,239 --> 02:11:39,239
Speaker 1: I think it's victim for it for the victim, but like,

2904
02:11:39,239 --> 02:11:41,119
no one cares about this victim.

2905
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:42,680
Speaker 3: Outside of the victim. It's victimless.

2906
02:11:44,119 --> 02:11:47,039
Speaker 1: No, I mean leaving aside the victim, it's they're dead.

2907
02:11:47,199 --> 02:11:50,960
Get over It's fine. Once the victims dead, it's like

2908
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:52,920
they don't They literally don't exist. So I don't see

2909
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:54,319
how they could be a victim anymore because they're just

2910
02:11:54,399 --> 02:11:58,880
not victim. My friend does the same internal monologue ey

2911
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:03,039
time he kills someone. To adjust be lawyers. Yeah, that

2912
02:12:03,079 --> 02:12:05,399
would that'd be a really strong defense.

2913
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 3: Called to the stand. The person who was murdered.

2914
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:12,479
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't show up, must not have been that bad.

2915
02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:16,760
Speaker 1: If they really wanted to not die, they would have

2916
02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:18,760
put up more of a fight and not died.

2917
02:12:19,439 --> 02:12:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, simple to me.

2918
02:12:21,479 --> 02:12:25,960
Speaker 1: The pedant lawyer. Yeah, I don't, I don't who I

2919
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:32,760
think Mary is the most likely to get I digressed.

2920
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:35,960
Speaker 2: I was going to say that too. Yes, Mary's not

2921
02:12:36,039 --> 02:12:39,039
it's not an attack. It's just that I think that's realistic.

2922
02:12:39,319 --> 02:12:41,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2923
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:43,560
Speaker 3: I reluctantly accept this award.

2924
02:12:46,000 --> 02:12:51,439
Speaker 1: Thank you, well, thank you Morgan from New Orleans, morlans

2925
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:53,960
h Well, that's our show. Those are the emails.

2926
02:12:54,359 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2927
02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:57,279
Speaker 1: But daytime recording one.

2928
02:12:57,159 --> 02:12:59,760
Speaker 2: Of the rare ones. Yes we could. I mean, it's

2929
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:01,479
not a fisher yet because we haven't recorded it. But

2930
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:03,520
the plan is we're actually going to do a little

2931
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:06,199
recording here right after.

2932
02:13:06,039 --> 02:13:10,159
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, we'll promote that on our channels

2933
02:13:10,159 --> 02:13:10,520
if we do.

2934
02:13:10,479 --> 02:13:12,319
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on the On the Patreon, we'll definitely

2935
02:13:12,319 --> 02:13:14,680
have the Warhammer stuff and maybe maybe a little bonus.

2936
02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:20,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a there's two episodes up on Firescape of

2937
02:13:20,279 --> 02:13:22,920
Vinian Mike Save the World, and I believe the second

2938
02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:25,520
episode of Vinie Mike Destroy the World is up as

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of today, the twenty fourth, March twenty fourth. If you

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haven't watched it, and if you're not a Next Lander

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02:13:31,720 --> 02:13:37,479
subscriber patron, go subscribe. We also have merch at fire

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Speaker 2: We never know is it deep dish pussy?

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Speaker 1: Now Deep Dish Pussy is our patreon. Oh right, fire escape.

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Speaker 3: URLs, I can remember them.

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Speaker 1: I have very interesting conversations with our accountants. Come tax

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2948
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we bought that at a loss.

2949
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Speaker 1: It's not fire write that off.

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Speaker 3: Right that off to our text guy, right.

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Speaker 1: Off, Escape cast merch. Okay, just search fire Escape on

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that bikini is so sick. Get some. You can get

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a fucking about the Author.

2955
02:14:15,199 --> 02:14:16,800
Speaker 3: Tank time season is coming.

2956
02:14:17,079 --> 02:14:21,359
Speaker 1: You get some banana yellow banana hammock trunks. Those aren't

2957
02:14:21,399 --> 02:14:23,319
banana hammocks. You can get some water bottles, some hoodies

2958
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:26,960
want to I want these coasters. Why the funk aren't

2959
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:30,199
people telling me about these coasters? More? Send fote buy

2960
02:14:30,279 --> 02:14:32,520
these coasters, the mouse pads, not the about the Author one.

2961
02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:34,920
I'll freak out that one. Get the oh dorky Christmas

2962
02:14:35,159 --> 02:14:39,680
beanie that's sick is the season? Uh yeah, there's a

2963
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:41,600
I think we got a vibrator something.

2964
02:14:41,399 --> 02:14:44,760
Speaker 3: The most wonderful time of the.

2965
02:14:46,399 --> 02:14:50,880
Speaker 1: Go. Buy stuff there. We're over at on Patreon. If

2966
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:53,560
you want to get some ad free episodes, or you

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want to watch vide Mike Save the World, or just

2968
02:14:55,319 --> 02:14:57,359
get video versions of the episodes, you can go over

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We got several tiers, or if you just appreciate what

2970
02:14:59,039 --> 02:15:00,279
we do, we want to treat like a tip jar.

2971
02:15:00,399 --> 02:15:04,039
We are over at deep dishpussy dot com and uh

2972
02:15:04,159 --> 02:15:05,600
we'll be back in a couple of weeks. Dan, what

2973
02:15:05,640 --> 02:15:06,680
do you have going on in the meantime?

2974
02:15:07,079 --> 02:15:09,000
Speaker 2: Oh, lots of Giant Bomb stuff going on the power

2975
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:11,600
Block every day. We're streaming for like four or five

2976
02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:14,159
six hours a day, So just check out Giant Bomb

2977
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or game spot on Twitch and YouTube. We're streaming a

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lot of fun stuff about to make Jeff Grebb start

2979
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playing the game over Blood for Blake Clubs, So keep

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an eye out.

2981
02:15:22,039 --> 02:15:22,960
Speaker 1: Mary. What about you?

2982
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:27,000
Speaker 3: I stream on Mondays. That's how I found some of

2983
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:28,800
these sick games that I talked about on this EPI.

2984
02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:31,319
So if you want to see me play them before

2985
02:15:31,399 --> 02:15:35,560
I talk about them, check out my my twitch so

2986
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:37,680
you can watch me stream these games that I like

2987
02:15:37,720 --> 02:15:41,760
so much or don't like sick. What about you?

2988
02:15:42,199 --> 02:15:46,159
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What do you do? Games wise? Nothing?

2989
02:15:46,439 --> 02:15:49,600
I'm I'm a I got a wine test coming up.

2990
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:53,640
Can't really follow me there though, No, I mean I could,

2991
02:15:54,199 --> 02:15:59,920
you could. Yeah, I'm just I'm here. That's and that's

2992
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:01,640
good enough for me. I know you too. You need

2993
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:05,880
your popularity, and your your fucking popular.

2994
02:16:06,079 --> 02:16:08,439
Speaker 3: I am a little sick, burned.

2995
02:16:10,680 --> 02:16:17,279
Speaker 1: Popular. I got my I collect fuck that isapolis.

2996
02:16:19,319 --> 02:16:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not disagree with it.

2997
02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:24,399
Speaker 3: These are perfect. I can't ask for a more perfect impression.

2998
02:16:25,279 --> 02:16:31,039
Speaker 1: I love Portland. I'm so cool. I love pickles, I

2999
02:16:31,119 --> 02:16:36,719
love French bulldogs. My house is sick, my neighborhood is sweet.

3000
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:43,799
I've got a neighbor. I've got a neighbor who raises robots.

3001
02:16:43,879 --> 02:16:44,360
Speaker 3: Robots.

3002
02:16:44,479 --> 02:16:47,200
Speaker 1: I have a phone if they were his own. I've

3003
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:49,280
got a phone at the bottom of the will of Lammit,

3004
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and it's pronounced well Lammit, damn it.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's sweet here. It's the best city in the world.

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I'm into couzy games.

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Speaker 3: I remember one time, I forget the context, but you

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said that my phone was at the bottom of the

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Willama and that's a shame because I have so many

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texts on it because I'm so popular. You done got

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my phone back and I was like, I probably do

3013
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have a lot of unreads on that phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably still there. It probably hasn't run out

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of juice yet.

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Speaker 3: To this day, there is a fish swimming by my

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phone at the bottom of that river, and it is

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sad because that is a perfect, in good condition I

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phone in a perfect waterproof bag. It's going to be

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there for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Just FaceTime with a fucking barracuda. I don't think there

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are barracudas in the Wi Lama, but.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'd be concerning if they're a piranha in the river

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running through Portland.

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Speaker 3: There's barely fish in there. It's pretty polluted.

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Speaker 1: Well, everybody, thank you for joining. We will be back

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in a couple of weeks the new episode. In the meantime,

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go to our Patreon watch that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I'm giving you to a homework assignment for that

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Embargered game that I want to talk about next time. Yeah,

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I wonder if thembargo will even be up by the

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time that comes out. Yes, the day I think the

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embargo is that day? No, ye, yep, okay, we're good

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to take a look at that. I don't know, but o, yes,

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there's a game. I want talk to you too.

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Speaker 1: About We can delay the episode a few hours if

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we need to. We'll be back see you then.

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Speaker 3: Bye.