Speaker 1: Hi, this is Christina and a Carmen and this is
another episode of Spooky Teals, the podcast for all things
a Spooky Hunted places true crime in Latin America. And
today we just have a Paramol story. So yeah, like
I was saying in the episode portion that you will
only hear of your patreon, I only ended up doing
a paranormal case for this, so yes, but before that,
a listener story. And if you have a story that
you want to send to us, you can email a
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us on any of our socials just at Spooky Tells.
You can call the Spookie Hotline. You can also leave
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to get to us and been on discord. We love
receiving them, so yes, send us your stories please. Okay,
and here's our listeners story. I'm from Nicaragua. I've heard
one time from an old lady that used to sell
in the food market in Leon that she remember is
that when she was a child, her mother, that was
also a street vendor, would bring her along and one
time they got their way earlier than they used to,
around three am and they heard a very particular noise
and her mother recognized it as a noise from the
ka nawa and took her under the table and covered
her eyes so she wouldn't see it. That's scary. No, yeah,
that is scary. Never be that early. That's the lesson here.
The early worm does not get the worm the exactly. Yeah.
So from now on, they got there at five or
I would have. I'm okay, and then we'll take a
little break here and then do the paranormal case. Okay,
and we're back. Here's my paranormal case, the Luigi Mania
of El Serrito Wuichi May yeah, yeah, and Buigi Media.
So disclaimer. When I first heard about this case and
I saw the names, I thought it involved Mexicans because
I'm so Mexican centric, you know. Then I realized way
too late that it was actually Italians, not our white cousins.
I was bamboozled by their name. Now it's too late
to change. Okay. So you have a story about some
spicy whites, the Italians. Yes, yes, they are, honestly, I
guess besides Spaniards who colonized that they are the most
Latino white people, right, I think so, I think So
also when I think of Italians and Mexico, I think
of my Italian singer who was basically canceled, ran out
of Mexico because he said Mexican woman had mustaches and
he wasn't wrong, but he was canceled. That was actually
the first cancelation written and recorded, it documented in history. Yeah, yeah,
so that's what I think of anyway. So yeah, my bad,
my bad dick of Jersey Shore, which I'm sure Italians hate, right, Yeah,
I'm so sorry Italians. So so yeah, let's get into
this Italian American story.
Speaker 2: Wow, Spooky Tales first, it is and his Booky Tales first,
and that.
Speaker 1: Was my bad. I can't get over it, Okay, I
can't fucking dumb, all right, So yeah, not usually what
we talk about. So okay. So, on the night of Wednesday,
March third, nineteen twenty, several officers with the Richmond Police
gathered outside of a home on San Paolo Avenue in
else Rito, California, to investigate reports of strange activity. First,
a little about else Rito. It's part of the Bay Area.
It was founded by refugees from the nineteen oh six
San Francisco earthquake, and it was incorporated in nineteen seventeen.
Back then, when it was incorporated, only one five hundred
people lived there. Now it's like twenty thousand or something.
It was called rust Effirst, named after a German blacksmith
named Mattias Roost, but nobody liked the name. And that's
not a good name. It's fucking ugly. Yeah, and the
Spanish population that was already in the area referred to
this location as the Hill or else Rito already and
that's what stuck, because honestly, it is better. It's better
it does. When it was incorporated included what is Rust
and then like three or four other like small areas
that were all separate, but then they became one to
become elter Rito. Back then, there was no police department,
there was only one school, there was two churches, and
most people still had like cattle instead of cars in
nineteen twenty so. And it was also over twenty five
percent Italian when this took place. And this this neighborhood
happened to be the Italian part of Encrito. Oh interesting,
so yeah, little Italyans in etc Rito. Yeah, not Mexican.
And while all this was taking place, the prejudice that
Italians face in the US was sort of still happening.
It was not happening in the Bay Area at all.
Are you saying? Elcerito was kind of like a refuge
because they were not like discriminated against in Enserrito. They
were just not discriminated against in this whole in the
Bay Area in general. They were like the people on top.
They were the founders of like areas. You know what
I mean, That's what I meant to say. Yeah, also
important to know, but this is nineteen twenty and spiritualism
was like an all time high. It's popping off. Yes,
it was the thing to be doing. Wigi bords love them,
people love them? Yeah, they had them, Okay, And so
now Uigimania again. Where before I started talking about the town,
I left off where police were at the door of
this San Pabla home. So what led police? Richmond police
didn't have police, of course, So what led Richmond police
to this Anda home? I started with a family tragedy
and then another family tragedy in the same family. Very sad.
The Moto family had been in the area for alost
twenty years. Nasato Moto, Sorry, I'm sorry, Nasa sounds like
an hold antone name, except I can see what you thought. Nazorrow,
Nat Suddle, Mama Mia. Yes, I'm sorry to sorry to
hold Italians. I'm so sorry. Okay. So, Nataro Moto was
considered a pioneer of Serrito. He had been there the
longest part of his family and then you know, they
all met, they had babies on that and then on
April thirteenth, nineteen nineteen, he suddenly died of a heart attack.
Very tragic, very sudden. No one was expecting it. That
same year, the youngest daughter of the mortal familya Moro. Again, like,
these are very Spanish names. So, and I can almost
understand Italian. I'm pretty sure I can learn it. Yeah. Same,
it sounds almost like Spanish. Yeah, it's very similar. Anyway,
Okennia Moto was taking a Christmas present to a friend
when a car hit her and fled the scene. And
there's reports of this accident where people say that she
drags herself fifty feet before collapsing in a ditch and
then dying from her injury. Oh wow, that's terrible. Yeah.
And three people were on the street when she was
hit and they ran over to help her, and they
saw that the car was slowing down after a hitter,
so they thought it was going to stop. They were
more concerned with helping e Kenya, and no one wrote
down a license plate or anything. Oh and the car left. Yeah,
the car just left. They didn't even get a good
look at it. Damn. And this obviously shook the remaining family,
particularly Maria, the matriarch of the family, and the police
had no idea how to find her daughter's killers, so
she took matters into her own hand. She consulted the
Ouiji board and it was actually Okenya Swuigi board. She
had gotten it to try and communicate with her dad,
who again died just like six months before her. Way,
how all those o Kenya, I can't find so Josie,
the older daughter was thirty nine or thirty so, and
Aquenya was still in high school high school age, but
I can't find her exact age fourteen or fifteen. I
want to say, gotcha, And so Maria, Josie the twenty
nine year old daughter, and Sussie Bottini, that's right exactly
that when I saw it, they were like wait, I
was like yeah. Anyway, they began to do seances together
to try and figure out the license plate of the
car who hit Auenya, and so they would sit there
and ask like what is the license plate number? And
they got a number. They took that number to the police,
but the police was like, this isn't even a license
plate number format, Like what is this number? Like yeah,
like it just didn't make any sense. But it also
just the police was like, okay, fine, well, like check
our system. I don't know what the system was, like
a piece of paper, I really don't have, like file
cabinet with like lights of the places ran down or
something something. But it didn't match anything they had in
their system. So the women they continued their seances more
and more to try and figure out because again they're
like they're just they're trying to figure it out. The
police isn't helping. They're obviously heartbroken. So yeah, they're doing
like nonsob sciences at this point. And this is when
things escalate where they're like this is what they're this
is consumed them. And then they worried that they had
unleashed evil spirits while doing these seances. Can't be good, no,
because then these evil spirits began to make demands and
this is like a over the course of two months
that oh okay, yeah, they started getting worse and then
the spirits were making demands. So the spirits told them
to start bringing in children during the seances. Why oh,
because they would make the connection stronger. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
I'm like, what are they going to do that possess them? No, no,
just it would make the connection stronger. Makes sense, right,
Then the spirits started making worse and worse demands. The
spirits sold them to cut off the hair, to cut
off the hair of the children and then burn the hair.
Then they demanded that money be burned, and then they
started with a few dollars, but by the end they
had burned seven hundred dollars. That's quite a bit. Yeah
today that would have been thirteen seventy one dollars. Well. Yeah.
They also were breaking furniture and burning that furniture. They
were doing twenty four hour seances, and during these twenty
four hour seiances, no one was allowed to leave, eat
or sleep. Damn, that sounds horrible. Yes. Then suddenly a
mysterious hole the size of a grave appeared in the yard,
and Maddie, I believe that that's where the spirits were
coming out from and now neighbors are like, what is
happening at the Model House? Like, something serious is happening.
They saw kids arriving but never leave. The windows were
all shut, they never came out. There was a holding
is going on here. Yeah, something is happening, especially in
the last week. They were like, wow, things are escalating,
We're worried and yeah. So this led neighbors to wonder
if people were being held against their will inside the
Model House or if there was dark magic being practiced.
I mean either one could be it. Yeah. They tried knocking,
but Mariamro never opened the door, and so then the
neighbors went to the local marshall, who then went to
the Richmond well. First the local marshall went and knocked,
but Madia didn't open the door. So then he went
to the Richmond Police and he the Richmond Police Chief
and six officers and a Catholic priest went down to
the Motor house and they tried knocking. They weren't like,
nobody answered, so then they broke down the door and
when they were finally able to enter, police found twelve
people inside, seven adults and five children, and the seven
adults were all arrested the I don't know if they
were teenagers or like young adults, but they were taken
into custody too, and then the kids were all placed
in different homes. The news of this arrests were sensational nationwide.
The next day, like wildly reported, and there was a
mass meeting in the city of Enserrito of town whatever,
the State Commission in Lunacy. That was the Department of Health.
Oh okay, that was their name, the State Commission in
the Lunancy. They announced that every single resident would be
psychiatrically evaluated because of this. Yeah, they feared that this
was going to spread, I guess, and this hysteria over
the wigi board. But yeah, I don't see how I
feel like upon hearing that, that would make people want
to see what all of us is about and go
get a wigi board. I mean, if I didn't have
one before, I probably would have went to go get one.
I'd be like, I might I might need to try this, Yeah, yeah,
just to see, just to see, Yeah, just to say,
and that's how they get you. That's she's mosas. That's
how they get us or the ghosts. Yeah, that was they.
That's what I'm talking about they are the ghosts. Yeah,
that's how the ghosts get You said that she is Mosas.
That's how the ghost get that she's Mosas. Oh okay, wow,
I'm my brain because I'm so tired right now. I
think so, I don't think it's me. Yeah, anyway, So yeah,
the Commission in Lunacy feared that this was going to
be a widespread issue and not just the initial twelve
that was in the house. That were in the house,
and those initial twelve, it was fifty five year old
Maria Moro, her twenty nine year old daughter, Josie Soldavani
Toldavini Soldavini Solavigni, I We're so sorry, Oh my god,
her thirty year old son in law, Charles, and then
her grandchildren, four year old Marino and two year old Eleanor.
And then there was fifteen year old Adeline Bottini Bini.
This is when I was like, oh shit, they're not
Mexican like Adeleine Bottini. Yeah, her younger sister, Rosie Bottini,
and then her parents, Susie and John, and then there
was two cousins there, Louis and Harry Ferradio. So it's
like guy Fieria Ferrari. Yeah yeah, and then they're oh, sorry,
two more people. I think they these were neighbors, but
thirty five year olds Ida Benno and her daughter Tessi Bene.
So I could have been Mexican, you know, I'm sorry.
I never met a Mexican named Tessi. But okay, go
on anyway. Okay, So when police descended upon these twelve, Maria, Josie, Idolen,
and Susie were super upset. But not because the police
came knocking their door down. No, because they interrupted the seance. Okay,
I had to find the urge to cut you off
and say what you just said? I knew I could tell,
I could see yeah, like that guy that mean with
the vein. Yeah, that was it. Yeah. Yeah. And the
police noticed right away that the women appeared pale and
malmourished and were completely obsessed with the spirit world. They
would not shut up about the spirit world. Oh wow. Yeah,
and so they were quickly considered insane and sent to
separate asylums for evaluation. The men were all released. To
be fair though, crickets uh interesting, uh yeah, yeah, the
men were not the ones in the same state of mind,
right right, right, yeah, yeah, and so while speaking with
experts at the three separate facilities, all of the four
women told doctors that they were convinced that they had
opened a door to the other side and were releasing
evil spirits. Maria I explained to doctors that the family
had started using the Wiji board to help capture her
daughter's killers because they weren't doing their jobs. So officers
weren't doing their daughters clearly, obviously, and so the women
all said, you know, separately to these experts doctors that
the spirits came through during their sessions had given them
license plate numbers that belonged to the men that had
killed Okenya. And then they also said, then the tables
turned because the spirits began to make these strange requests,
and those are the requests that I mentioned earlier, like
the children being brought in, their hair being cut and burned,
all those things. Adeline told the doctors, we cut my sisters,
and Adeline is the younger neighbor. We cut my sister
Rosie's hair because we were told she would die otherwise.
That's what the spirits were saying. Josie told them my
sister Jenny, that's what they called Okenya had used the
Ouiji board in talking with my father, and I was
talking with her, we heard strange sounds and voices, and Adeline,
maybe because she was younger, she seemed to be the
one to be able to communicate with the spirits the most.
And she had also said, quote, I have been in
a trance for some time, and I know what the
Wiji board tells me is true. And a quote nice
and yeah. The story became or it blew up overnight.
It made headlines and newspapers across the country. In Nebraska alone,
there was like seventy one articles about the story, damn
all the way in about Nebraska, and there was headlines
from the Chicago Daily, the Tuscaloosa News, the Omaha Evening
b and also this headline from the Oakland Tribune, which
I know Oakland is like right in this area, so
it's not nationwide, but the headline from the Oakland Tribune
read el serrito wuigi zeliz keep woman prisoner in history house.
Doesn't sound good. No, it's not looking good for these
nope women here, these zealots. As the story gained traction,
local government officials panicked about how much this craze was
going to spread, and that's when they were like, everyone
needs to get evaluated. There was calls from state senators
to quote step in and prohibit the sale of wigi
boards altogether. Damn Yeah. The same senator also said that
using wigi bards was as bad as a drug habit. Oh,
come on now. One reverend all the way in New
York said that churchless town of Esserito is almost forgotten,
well nigh forsaken by the organized Christian churches. Forsaken. Wow.
After a few interviews, the State Commission in Lunacy aka
the of Health concluded that there, I'm just I love
that name, the State Commission in Lunacy. I can't get
over it anyway. And they concluded that there was no
need to evaluate everyone in the town because because the
mania had been contained to only those twelve. Okay, I
mean that's reasonable, it makes sense. The women were released
from the asylum after three weeks of treatment. Doctors felt
that they just needed to rest and be away from
each other. That was the Cure's a good solution. I mean, yeah,
they're probably egging each other on shit. Yeah, It's like
when you're with your cousins and you're like oh my god,
did you hear that? They're like, no, no, I heard it.
I felt Did you feel that? Yeah, so yeah they
were probably so. Yeah, they just needed to rest and
to be away from each other. And yeah, after leaving
the asylum, the youngest adeline, she graduated high school, she
moved out of El Serrito. She eventually got married. Everyone
else stated the area, and yeah, lived out their lives
like normal, And this little Wigi board craze was just
a blur, blurer in the past, as they say. And yeah,
that was the time Sero went Wiji board crazy, apparently
not involving Mexicans but Italian Americans. Yes, yes, yeah, what
a fascinating story. Yeah I thought so, I thought so. So,
you know, what fun wind to cover. Anyway, like, at
the end of the day, no harm was done. Everyone survived,
other than a short stint at the lunacy whatever the
hell it was called. Yeah, the asylum, Yeah, signed by
the Commission in lunacy. Yeah yeah so so yeah, shorter episode.
But again, I was busy today. It was an eventful
day today at the time of recording Setember twenty twenty five,
I was a little busy. Yeah, yep. Anyway, let's take
a little break here and then we'll do spooky recommendations
and we're back. Do you have spooky recommendations? I do.
I actually just finished reading Sharp Objects by Gillian Flynn,
who famously wrote Gone Girl, but this was actually her
debut novel. Oh I don't know that. And I also
recently finished watching Dawn. What's it called the one I
was telling you about the documentary Unknown Numbers? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
we're going to talk about it on Patreon. Yeah, so
I'm not going to watch it. People will know I've
talked about a non number or something like that on Netflix.
And if you watch that and want to read a
fiction something that sort of reminds you has the same
small town weirdness of that documentary as well as toxic
motherness vibes. I don't know what I'm saying. I keep
adding this towards that are it's necessary here for it,
but it but very much after as I was reading it,
I was like, this has the vibes of that documentary,
but worse because there is some child deaths in Sharp Objects. Oh,
sharp Objects? Yeah, yeah, sorry, because I was kind of
like talking about the two and I was saying, how
sharp Objects reminded me of that documentary because the same
small town toxic Say. Yes, okay, I somehow thought you
were going to bring up a different book. No, no,
I'm talking about My recommendation is Sharp Objects by Gillian Flynn,
and now saying that if you watch our documentary and
are wanting to read like a fictional sort of version
of that, but worse, way worse than Sharp Objects would
be a good read. Let me read the synopsis real quick,
okay that description. Fresh from a brief stay at a
psych hospital, reporter Camille Preeker faces a troubling assignment. She
must return to her tiny hometown to cover the murders
of two preteen girls. For years, Camille has hardly spoken
to her neurotic, hypochondriac mother or to the half sister
she barely knows. A beautiful thirteen year old with an
eerie grip on the town. Now installed in her old
bedroom and her family's victorian mansion, Camille finds herself identifying
with the young victims a bit too strongly. Dogged by
her own demons, she must unravel the psychological puzzle of
her own past if she wants to get the story
and survive this homecoming. So it was a good reading,
full of one twist I predicted the other twist. I
was like, what the I didn't see that coming, although
I think in hindsight I should have. But it'd be
like that sometimes. Yeah, it was a dark read. But
you know that's my kind of read, and you're yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was a good read, good thriller. Okay, okay, I
might read it. It's a short read. It's only two
hundred and fifty four pages. Oh that is short. I
finally read Oh my god, what was it that v
Castro book? Oh, goddess a filth? Yes, I finally read
Got Us a Filth? Very fun?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: Not the best thing? Ever? It was fun. I love that.
I could not believe the end or not the end,
but I couldn't believe the Actually I could, but I
couldn't believe the priest in that book. Yeah yeah, if
you know, you know, But yeah, no, it was a
very fun read. I'm very glad. It was very much
how you described sheikan asked, meet the craft. Yeah that
was literally it. It Wait was fun. I laughed, I cried,
I was mad. Yeah, it's good. Why I wait? Sorry,
really quick commendation. If you have watched that documentary Unknown
whatever the hell it's called, on Netflix, then you should
watch the YouTube video by Olay and Kenny j. D.
There's a video of them together about the documentary. And
I don't even think I finished watching it. It's just
a funny shit. Ever though, like I started watching it
and I was like, I need's watch documentary. Yeah, it
don't make so much more sense because they don't really
they don't describe, they don't do a recap. They just
talk about it. But it was off the hook and
we'll talk about it when we do when you after
you watch it for the Batrios. But that video was hilarious.
It's a rightful commentary as well. Okay, okay, yeah, I
need to won't watch it, and it reminded me. Sorry,
it reminded me because when you were like why iata
and you made like a punching fist because throughout the video, Olay,
it's like I would have just I would have punched
her about the mom That's funny. She's like why did
nobody beat her? Ass? I mean, some people just that's
what they mean. I'm not don't know. I mean, I'm
not calling for it. I'm just saying no, some people
kind of you know, it would do them some good.
Some people some people, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, my speaking recommendations,
I oh, yeah, well I read Goddess of Filth and yeah,
it was fantastic. I butch is a brook book. I
need to send out the discussion questions. I'm I don't
know why. I just don't want to even because I
already finished the Bewitching. I'm halfway through the Bewitching and
aching to talk about Okay, okay, I'm going to send
out the discussion question I'm going to get people like
two days just to say that I gave you some
days to say anything about it, and then we'll record
our episode on but You so we can move on
to the Bewitching. Because the Bewitching has been it was
the perfect fall spooky book. Yeah again, I'm like three
fourths of the way through and yeah, it's been a
great read so far. So but no my spooky recommendations,
which I haven't read but I'm excited to. So. First
one Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones. I've heard that's about
it at that bookstore that I was telling you about.
And uh, it's about werewolves. That's all I know about it.
I don't know anything else. But so far, I've liked
two of his other books I've liked. Obviously, I loved
Deep Beflow, Hunter, Hunter, and then I forgot the other
book that I liked. I really can't you remember read
The Only Good Indians? Oh no, No, it was the
other one that some people like, don't care for it,
and I thought it was Okay, my Heart, yes, I
I haven't one. White people didn't like My Heart is
a Chainsaw, but I did like parts of it. I
was also read with The Only Good Indians. Okay, that's
the one I always need for me. I've heard amazing
things about it too. But this is one of his
earlier books, if not his debut. I don't remember. But
someone said werewolves and I was like, I'm there, I'm there,
and so yeah, that one and then the other one
I've been meaning to read for the longest time, The
Change Aline. Oh I that is also my TBR tag
do on lippy Yes, So yeah, that's the other one
that I've been wanting to read. Wait you did. You
didn't even say it was called You just showed it.
Not everyone is watching The Change Aline by Victor Leval
and I read another book by Victor Lavelle and I
can't remember the name of it, but it was The
Devil Something, The Devil Book. I read one as well,
Lone Women, which was amazing. Oh yeah, I love the
Devil one. I really can't remember the name. I know
Devil's there if you look up Devil. It was a
past recommendation you made as well. It was. I did
talk about it extensively after I finished. It was so good.
Highly recommend day and so we'll see. We'll see when
I get to the but I'm excited for both of them. Cool.
I did also make a video about it, and now
I'm talking about you, and I haven't watched it. No,
I haven't posted it. Oh, so many videos I haven't posted.
I finally feel alive today. Hey, you have a little log.
Oh well they're not edited, but I do have a
log of some okay, nice anyway, Sorry, were you gonna
see something else? I was just gonna say. I guess
that brings us to the end of the episode. Yes, yes,
it does. Other than reminder that you can catch us
live at the event. The KUKUOI is going to get you.
November first, a Saturday, in a Yakama reminder to all
the Yackamanians, the Yakamaites. Yes, I will extend that to
everyone in Washington. Make that drive. Yeah, it's probably only
a couple hours. It is seven pm at the Baptist
Event Center in Yakama November first. We will be there
as well as Jonathan of Latinos against Booky shit. Yeah,
it's gonna be great. We're gonna talk about stuff, scary stuff,
a spooky stuff. It's gonna be great. And there's gonna
be in a spooky medcalo, which I am so excited for.
I will be at the Spooky marcalom So. Yeah, thanks
for reminding me to say that you're welcome. Well, thanks
for saying it. Yeah, actually welcome for that. Actually yeah
all right, so now this brings us to that an episode. Yeah. Yeah.
Other than that, I don't know, watch out for any
Marias that you're doing seances with because they might get
a little upsessed. They will get obsessed, yes, Maria Moro,
and especially if they're Italian, as we've learned from this story. Yes,
all right, say spooky. We'll catch up reale next time.
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