Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Oh, guess what day it is.
Speaker 3: Guess what day it is?
Speaker 2: Huh anybody, It's hump Day.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is hump Day. Welcome to the Big Blue
Speaker 4: Insider Dicabriel with you. Wednesday edition of our program. Coming
Speaker 4: up tonight, John Clay of the Herold Leader. He will
Speaker 4: talk about, among other things, the fact that Sovereignty will
Speaker 4: not run in the Preakness. That word came out of
Speaker 4: late yesterday Bill Mott, the trainer who had basically planted
Speaker 4: that seed of doubt on national television after the Kentucky
Speaker 4: Derby win, deciding along with the rest of the connections
Speaker 4: of the horse, that the colt will not run for
Speaker 4: the second jewel of racing's Triple crowns. So that has
Speaker 4: touched off a lot of debate among fans who like
Speaker 4: horse racing and cover the race as well out immediate people.
Speaker 4: And we'll touch on that in just a moment. So John,
Speaker 4: we'll talk about that, as well as Mark Pope's work
Speaker 4: through the Portal and Mark Stoop's work through the Portal
Speaker 4: as well. There is news on that a little bit
Speaker 4: later on. Of course, we'll have Sean Woods, our unforgettable guard.
Speaker 4: He joins us each and every Wednesday, and Gary Moore,
Speaker 4: our West End bureau chief, will check in as well.
Speaker 4: The news from the portal for Kentucky as basically, the
Speaker 4: subheadline is depth. Because the Wildcats needed help at wide receiver,
Speaker 4: they got it and this guy ended up being more
Speaker 4: than just depth. He manned up being someone who makes
Speaker 4: an impact on this team. And as far as O
Speaker 4: line is concerned, the Wildcats need more numbers there and
Speaker 4: they have signed a kid out of the portal who
Speaker 4: will provide, like I said, more depth for the Wildcats.
Speaker 4: We'll start with the wide receiver though. He's a guy
Speaker 4: who played both at SMU. He was there last year
Speaker 4: and Oregon. Ashton Cozart chose Oregon over Alabama, Florida, I'm
Speaker 4: sorry Florida State, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Texas. And he also
Speaker 4: is pretty quick in one hundred he clocked a ten
Speaker 4: point seventy four and was a broad jumper as well,
Speaker 4: So a terrific athlete coming out, and things of course
Speaker 4: didn't go the way he had hoped at Oregon, so
Speaker 4: he transfers to SMU. He did not play in his
Speaker 4: first and only season in Eugene, so he transfers to SMU.
Speaker 4: Played in four games at one catch for twenty four yards.
Speaker 4: But this is a team Kentucky that needs people at
Speaker 4: wide out, so he's got a chance to compete with
Speaker 4: guys like Kendrick Law and JJ Hester and Harley Gilmore.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll see how this guy makes out. You know,
Speaker 4: he's got the speed, but evidently he just lacks some
Speaker 4: skills right now to be a frontline wide receiver. And
Speaker 4: you gotta have skills, of course to play in the SEC.
Speaker 4: And you could say the same thing about a young
Speaker 4: man named Rob Foegler six seven, three oh four at
Speaker 4: a ball State. Did not play in either one of
Speaker 4: his two seasons with the Cardinals, so he'll have three
Speaker 4: years left at Kentucky. He's from Cincinnati Cincinnati sant X
Speaker 4: and coming out of high school, got offers from Pittsburgh, Indiana,
Speaker 4: Georgia Tech, but as we said, did not get any
Speaker 4: run at ball State. No idea what he's getting to
Speaker 4: play if it's a full ride or whatever at Kentucky.
Speaker 4: But the bottom line is if they want to get
Speaker 4: this unit back to where the big Blue Wall was
Speaker 4: back in the day, back in the glory days, they
Speaker 4: need depth. They need to be able to rotate people
Speaker 4: in and out, and they have built quite a bit
Speaker 4: right now through the portal with kids from Arkansas, Bowling Green,
Speaker 4: Western Kentucky and the actually Go state. They got kids
Speaker 4: coming back. But they got to replace the likes of
Speaker 4: Marcus Cox and Eli Cox, Gerald Mincey. So it's a project,
Speaker 4: there's no question about that. And they got to get busy.
Speaker 4: So we'll find out more about them when the season begins.
Speaker 4: We won't know much during the summer what they call
Speaker 4: camp when they actually used to camp, not literally, not
Speaker 4: with tents and sleeping bags, but two days and things
Speaker 4: like that. They have kind of you hear JEFFI Corel
Speaker 4: talk about it, they have really gone soft on these players.
Speaker 4: I don't know that I buy that, But when you
Speaker 4: hear old timers like Jeff and others back when we
Speaker 4: were there, you know, two and three days and things
Speaker 4: like that, sometimes four days. But it's it's a different time,
Speaker 4: no question about that. Well, look at the portal. But
Speaker 4: now you've got to hope that all of these guys
Speaker 4: are hanging out together, working out together, lifting, building all that,
Speaker 4: because that was the strength of the big Blue Wall.
Speaker 4: And one of the guys who was here for Sadly,
Speaker 4: the last season that the Wildcats had John Salarman was
Speaker 4: Eli Cox and the UK football program right now has
Speaker 4: some features on its social media platforms where players who
Speaker 4: are moving on, including Cox, and they did one with
Speaker 4: Zion Childress as well, talk about what they got out
Speaker 4: of playing for Kentucky and essentially why they came here
Speaker 4: and why they believe it could be if you're a recruit,
Speaker 4: could be the place for you. Here's Eli Cox.
Speaker 5: For me, in Kentucky was the obvious choice. I grew
Speaker 5: up ten miles away from the stadium. My parents had
Speaker 5: season tickets from me when we were kids, and this
Speaker 5: is a dream come true to be able to play here,
Speaker 5: and it was even better to actually have a solid
Speaker 5: career and hopefully have a chance of the NFL. I've
Speaker 5: known coach Soups for a long time now, and you
Speaker 5: know he's a players coach, and anything that the guys
Speaker 5: need here or anything that he thinks would help us,
Speaker 5: even the slide, He's going to make sure that we
Speaker 5: get and I think he's always listening to the players
Speaker 5: and is always ready to listen to feedback, be it
Speaker 5: good or bad, of how he can do his job
Speaker 5: better and to serve the players. So I think it
Speaker 5: was really unique to be able to play at a
Speaker 5: school that has, you know, a nickname and tradition for
Speaker 5: offensive line play. You know, it's not an often glorified position,
Speaker 5: but you know, being a part of a big blue
Speaker 5: wall meant a lot to me. And you know, when
Speaker 5: I first showed up with Coach Larmon and Drake Jackson,
Speaker 5: Logan Stenberg, Mason Wolf, Luke Fortner or Austin Dotson, I
Speaker 5: could go land and Young and just go on and
Speaker 5: on down the line of the guys that set a
Speaker 5: standard of elite offensive line play by the way they played,
Speaker 5: I mean the way they the relationships that they had
Speaker 5: with each other, and how tight knit those groups were
Speaker 5: and how well they played together, and the way coach
Speaker 5: Larmon coached and built his room with something that was
Speaker 5: really special. And I think that's a tradition that we're
Speaker 5: going to get back to here soon. I think if
Speaker 5: you want to talk about just the plays that truly
Speaker 5: has even in this poor and aile world, like a
Speaker 5: family atmosphere, like the relationships that you build, and just
Speaker 5: the fan buy in being in Lexington, that it's one
Speaker 5: of the best places play college football. You're in the
Speaker 5: SEC and you're at a school that will do everything
Speaker 5: can to make sure that you reach your maximum value
Speaker 5: potential as a player in.
Speaker 4: The person that is from the Twitter account or the
Speaker 4: X account, if you will, of the UK football program itself.
Speaker 4: And if you wonder about you know, why are they
Speaker 4: releasing these now? Because most of the recruiting, if not
Speaker 4: all is over, well it's never over, as you well know.
Speaker 4: And you don't start moving these things in front of
Speaker 4: prospective recruits before their senior years. You do it now.
Speaker 4: These are directed at really any kid who might even
Speaker 4: be thinking about Kentucky freshman, sophomore, junior as well as senior.
Speaker 4: And we all know this that recruiting is an ongoing process.
Speaker 4: But in terms of impact, I remember when we went
Speaker 4: to cover gosh was that eighteen years ago? The Music
Speaker 4: City Bowl, the first one under Rich Brooks. It was
Speaker 4: the first media avail the week prior to the game,
Speaker 4: the week of the game actually, and we all show
Speaker 4: up in Nashville on Monday, and I remember we talked
Speaker 4: to Joker Phillips about this and Rich Brooks and we
Speaker 4: probably talked about it before they even left for Nashville.
Speaker 4: But they reiterated the fact that this would help recruiting,
Speaker 4: but not immediately because at that point we're talking about
Speaker 4: the final week of December. At that point, recruits had
Speaker 4: made up their respective minds, So you've got to get
Speaker 4: in front of it at that point, juniors and some
Speaker 4: sophomores and plant that seed. So that's what they're doing
Speaker 4: right now and looks it's a bombardment. It's twenty four
Speaker 4: to seven three sixty five, not just for Kentucky but
Speaker 4: for any school interested in using social media for recruiting.
Speaker 4: And if you're not doing that, just get out of
Speaker 4: the business because that's how you reach recruits now obviously,
Speaker 4: So check it out to the UK football site on Twitter,
Speaker 4: it may be on other platforms. That's why I saw it,
Speaker 4: and just gets called Kentucky Football basically, and of course
Speaker 4: there's always the UK Sports Video people do a terrific job.
Speaker 4: Oh and speaking of recruiting, there was a tweet earlier
Speaker 4: today from a young man who goes by Big Blue
Speaker 4: Flave of Flave, and he shared a clip from a podcast,
Speaker 4: I think it's called The Underdog Podcast. A couple of
Speaker 4: guys talking about UK's facilities as they relate to guys
Speaker 4: in a portal here.
Speaker 6: It is everybody but Kentucky out in the country. By
Speaker 6: the way, facility check every other university. Kentucky's facilities looks
Speaker 6: special on these videos, and I don't see enough of
Speaker 6: the other portal commits doing like tours of the facility,
Speaker 6: like on social media and stuff. And I think that's
Speaker 6: for a reason, because they're watching, like jeal and Low
Speaker 6: in the possing like videos and pictures of the Kentucky facilities,
Speaker 6: and they're like, we don't want to, we don't want
Speaker 6: to post docs them. Kentucky facilities look insane.
Speaker 4: And within that tweet, he wrote, you know, everybody said
Speaker 4: our program died when it went to Fadville, and I
Speaker 4: retweeted as seeing who I never heard that at all.
Speaker 4: I heard some people concerned or read some comments from
Speaker 4: people concerned about recruits who went with Caliperi, and I
Speaker 4: know some people were concerned that Calipari might come back
Speaker 4: and beat Kentucky and what might happen, and and sure
Speaker 4: enough it happened, and you know what, the program stayed
Speaker 4: in business. Nobody said the program died. If you, if
Speaker 4: anybody did, please direct me to that in hindsight, so
Speaker 4: uh and again, these are the facilities Caliperi believed needed
Speaker 4: to be upgraded, to the point where he was so
Speaker 4: angry about it about not getting what he wanted. I
Speaker 4: don't know if this is why he left, but it
Speaker 4: was just another thing that got him sideways with Mitch Barnhardt.
Speaker 4: Now I know there are some facilities out there that
Speaker 4: are pretty damn good. Kentucky's not too bad when you
Speaker 4: factor in rupp Arena, not too shabby. Coming up in
Speaker 4: a couple of minutes, we'll talk with John clay At,
Speaker 4: a Herold leader. After the break, we'll talk about the
Speaker 4: Preakness and more. A lot of weirdness going on in
Speaker 4: the NBA involving some former Wildcats. Later on. Sean Woods
Speaker 4: and West End Bureau chief Gary Moore here on six
Speaker 4: thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Moon Sider. Coming
Speaker 4: up in just a few minutes, John clay At, a
Speaker 4: HEROD leader who wrote this morning in this morning's paper
Speaker 4: about the fact that Sovereignty will not run in the Preakness.
Speaker 4: Bill Mott and the handlers the connections from Godolphin Racing
Speaker 4: have decided that two weeks just aren't enough rest for
Speaker 4: a three year old coming out of Kentucky Derby, and
Speaker 4: truth be told, they're probably right, although it's been done
Speaker 4: more than one occasion, as we all know. But it
Speaker 4: has just ignited another controversial period in racing where people,
Speaker 4: first of all, think that it's wrong to not run
Speaker 4: the horse, and that it's a weak excuse and all that.
Speaker 4: You know, it's the kind of thing where I used
Speaker 4: to fall right in line with that because horses have
Speaker 4: done it for years and years, but so much has
Speaker 4: changed in the industry and I think it's time to change.
Speaker 4: I said this last year as well, that if you
Speaker 4: really care about the well being of the horse, you'll
Speaker 4: change the Triple Crown. You'll change the calendar. And I
Speaker 4: know you do away with a lot of tradition, but
Speaker 4: go back through their history books and you'll see that
Speaker 4: this wasn't always the calendar for the Triple Crown races.
Speaker 4: You know, two weeks to the Preakness, three more to
Speaker 4: the Belmont. Back in the day. They spaced them out
Speaker 4: quite a bit and it ultimately fell into this path
Speaker 4: and then it was named at some point the Triple Crown,
Speaker 4: and it became a great thing for sports and for racing,
Speaker 4: then we had that long lull where we didn't have
Speaker 4: a triple Crown winner for nearly forty years. We should have.
Speaker 4: There were horses that should have won it and either
Speaker 4: got bad rides or bad breaks or whatever, or had
Speaker 4: to scratch out of one of the races. But the
Speaker 4: bottom line is the breed has changed. Now with all
Speaker 4: these purses that are so great for the owners, breeders, riders,
Speaker 4: everybody involved, you got better fields at better times. But
Speaker 4: what that means is they really started breeding more for
Speaker 4: speed than for stamina. And yeah, they can do that.
Speaker 4: And it's taken a while for breeding practices and successes
Speaker 4: to catch up with the sport, but it has happened,
Speaker 4: and now you don't see the stamp and horses that
Speaker 4: you used to. You know, there's a reason there used
Speaker 4: to be a race called the Derby Trial Saturday a
Speaker 4: week before the Kentucky Derby because a lot of horses
Speaker 4: raced in that race to see if they were ready
Speaker 4: for the Kentucky Derby a week later. Never happens now.
Speaker 4: If there's a race after the Bluegrass Stakes at Lexington,
Speaker 4: like at Keenland, like the Election in Stakes or whatever,
Speaker 4: people wonder is that race too close to the Kentucky Derby,
Speaker 4: you know, is the horse going to be too tired? Well,
Speaker 4: Charismatic jumped up and won the Derby after running in
Speaker 4: a race after the Bluegrass Stakes, but you don't see
Speaker 4: that much anymore. The stamina is not there. So if
Speaker 4: you care about the horse and you care about the
Speaker 4: Triple Crown, you got to change it. And I know
Speaker 4: you got to make the folks in Baltimore understand that,
Speaker 4: and the folks in New York at Belmont Park understand that.
Speaker 4: So we'll talk to John Clay about that coming up.
Speaker 4: Some of the other things you'll see on Twitter these
Speaker 4: days the baseball Wildcats fighting for their lives again. They are,
Speaker 4: according to D one Baseball Projections, one of the last
Speaker 4: four in as we speak. Two weeks ago, Kentucky was
Speaker 4: solidly in a three seed, maybe a two. Now, it
Speaker 4: says here the Wildcats will be lucky to get in
Speaker 4: if they can keep winning. They got a series coming
Speaker 4: up this weekend with Oklahoma. After that they've got to
Speaker 4: go to Vandy. But according to D one Baseball, these
Speaker 4: are the last four in Kentucky, Kansas State, the Purple Wildcats, Iowa,
Speaker 4: and Xavier. Quite the coincidence, Xavier came to town a
Speaker 4: few weeks ago and beat Kentucky. That might be the
Speaker 4: win that puts Xavier in the tournament. A win back
Speaker 4: on March twenty fifth, And if you go back and
Speaker 4: look at that game, it was scoreless until Xavier scored
Speaker 4: six runs over the next three innings and the Wildcats
Speaker 4: put up two but then gave up three and the
Speaker 4: ninth it was just a mess. Nate Harris pitched, he
Speaker 4: was not sharp, gave up six hits, five earned runs,
Speaker 4: and after that and by the way, the bullpen took
Speaker 4: over and other than one player did really well. Simon
Speaker 4: Gergerson Gregorson Rauter had a bad night, but since then
Speaker 4: he and Harris have been Razors sharp in almost every outing.
Speaker 4: Harris struggled against Tennessee, otherwise he's been excellent. So the
Speaker 4: baseball Wildcats with a big challenge this week. They've got
Speaker 4: to win the series and if they can somehow sweep it,
Speaker 4: that would be huge. Another nugget from Corey Price. As always,
Speaker 4: this year UK and U of L will play on
Speaker 4: November eleventh. That's the earliest that game has ever been played.
Speaker 4: It has been played in the month of November just
Speaker 4: a couple of times, but around Thanksgiving, so that kind
Speaker 4: of made it okay in my opinion, on the twenty
Speaker 4: sixth and eighty three and on the twenty seventh of
Speaker 4: November in ninety three. And so there's been some fallout obviously,
Speaker 4: and how just how terrible that is, and it's terrible
Speaker 4: for the game and all that. Well, they both teams
Speaker 4: have got to work to make it even more relevant nationally.
Speaker 4: Kentucky get back to the top ten consistently. Louisville get
Speaker 4: back to the top ten, to top fifteen every once
Speaker 4: in a while. Remember back in the day when this
Speaker 4: game matched teams that were in the top five or
Speaker 4: the top ten. Denny Crumb coaching against Rick Patino or
Speaker 4: Eddy Sutton, it was a marquee matchup. Gets up to
Speaker 4: these teams to make it that way again. Don't blame
Speaker 4: the networks, don't blame the conferences. Those teams have got
Speaker 4: to get the job done. John Clay's next on six
Speaker 4: thirty welcome back to the Big Blue and Cider. As promised,
Speaker 4: mister John Clay, veteran of the UK beat sports columnists
Speaker 4: for The Herald Leader. But before we talk Entucky sports,
Speaker 4: UK Sports. John, your column today is about Sovereignty skipping
Speaker 4: the Preakness. This is becoming more and more frequent, and
Speaker 4: we'd like people to either go online or buy the
Speaker 4: paper and read it, but without giving away the store.
Speaker 4: Tell me, tell me why you wrote what you wrote today.
Speaker 7: Well, Sovereignty is the fourth Kentucky Derby winner in the
Speaker 7: last seven years, is to bypass the Preakness yesterday. The
Speaker 7: announcement yesterday was really no surprise.
Speaker 2: To those of us who we're.
Speaker 7: Talking to Bill who talked to Bill Mott and Michael
Speaker 7: Vanahan of Good Dolphins on Sunday morning after the race
Speaker 7: there at the barn there at Churchill Downs. The way
Speaker 7: they talked that day, we all came away. It was
Speaker 7: funny because Jason Frakes, who covers horse racer high school sports,
Speaker 7: but us a horse racing for the Courier. Jason, when
Speaker 7: we got done talking to Bill, Jason said, well, I
Speaker 7: guess I won't be booking that flight to Baltimore because
Speaker 7: we got Even though they said they were going to,
Speaker 7: you know, make a decision a few days, the vibe
Speaker 7: we got definitely was that, you know, they're going to
Speaker 7: skip the Brisness and focus on the Belmont. So I
Speaker 7: just think that, you know, horse racing, part of the
Speaker 7: horse racing the deal over time has been that they
Speaker 7: stand sometimes stand too long on tradition and not changing
Speaker 7: with the times. But we've got a definite threat, definite
Speaker 7: trend here. And Bill Mitt said when we talked to
Speaker 7: him on Sunday, the biggest concern is just two weeks
Speaker 7: between the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness. And as he said,
Speaker 7: over time, we've learned that the more spacing can give
Speaker 7: horses a little better they do and the longer their
Speaker 7: careers last. So my column today kind of makes the
Speaker 7: argument that some you know needs to change. If we're
Speaker 7: gonna the Triple Ground needs to change and change with
Speaker 7: the times. Do I think that's going to happen. No,
Speaker 7: Because one thing that's different about the Triple Crown, It's
Speaker 7: not like the Breeders' Cup. The Breeders' Cup is an organization.
Speaker 7: The Triple Crown is not. It's a name, but the
Speaker 7: three tracks Churchill Downs for the Derby, Pimlico for Breakness,
Speaker 7: and Delmont Park for the Belmont. Although it's going to
Speaker 7: be run this year at Saratoga like it was last
Speaker 7: year because Belmont's under renovation. They have different owners who
Speaker 7: operate independently, so I don't expect there's going to be
Speaker 7: a change anytime soon, but I think we're going to
Speaker 7: see more and more of this. We're definitely seeing a
Speaker 7: trend with four out of the last seven Derby winners.
Speaker 4: Not going on to the breakness, well, people, you bring
Speaker 4: up a great point. May I realize the triple crown
Speaker 4: was a term that was coined by a sports writer
Speaker 4: way back in the day, and it's stuck. I mean,
Speaker 4: like all great labels, it's stuck. And you make a
Speaker 4: great point about the racetracks. But the thing is they
Speaker 4: all benefit from and enjoy the trappings of the triple crown.
Speaker 4: And as I mentioned last night, it's always better for
Speaker 4: racing when a horse goes for a triple crown because
Speaker 4: just look at the attendance figures, especially the Belmont. You know,
Speaker 4: when you've got a horse that's racing for the triple Crown,
Speaker 4: you'll have a healthy crowd because for one thing at Saratoga,
Speaker 4: but not as good as it should have been with
Speaker 4: a triple crown. Now I've done John, I've done a
Speaker 4: one eighty, and I don't know how how long ago
Speaker 4: it was, and maybe all along you've believed this, But
Speaker 4: for the longest time I dug in. It was like
Speaker 4: me against a designated hitter. You know. I finally gave
Speaker 4: up on that because no one's listening to me. But
Speaker 4: I dug in because of the tradition of the Triple Crown,
Speaker 4: and I wondered, would it cheapen if they space their
Speaker 4: races longer, wider apart. Would it cheapen the feet? Then
Speaker 4: I went back and started looking at the history and John,
Speaker 4: I'm sure you've seen this. This wasn't always the calendar
Speaker 4: for the Triple Crown. It was different. It's changed several times.
Speaker 4: That's one argument. But the one I think most of all, John,
Speaker 4: is the one I make for poly Track and everybody
Speaker 4: else hates it, except for Turfway Park. If we really
Speaker 4: want what's best for the horses, will change it, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean right right now?
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I'm I'm was with you. I have for
Speaker 7: a long time. There. I said you need to keep
Speaker 7: it just because at that time it was more because
Speaker 7: nobody had accomplished it. We went thirty seven years between
Speaker 7: you know, between Affirmed and American Pharaoh in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 7: But now I think it's gotten to be more like
Speaker 7: a safety issue, more of a demand issue. My thing
Speaker 7: is is that you bring up the designated hitter. I mean, look,
Speaker 7: look at baseball. Baseball finally went to Major League Baseball
Speaker 7: finally went to the pitchclock. But last year or the
Speaker 7: year before, you know, they fought that for so long.
Speaker 7: Same thing with the designatedor. And I was with you.
Speaker 7: I was against the designated or. I was especially against
Speaker 7: the designated hitor coming to the National League because I
Speaker 7: thought it took a lot of strategy out of the game.
Speaker 1: But now the.
Speaker 7: Designator I still watch baseball. I think baseball is better
Speaker 7: with the pitchclock. I think baseball's better with the When
Speaker 7: the outlawed the shift, they change with the times.
Speaker 4: Football.
Speaker 7: I think one of the reasons the popularity of the
Speaker 7: NFL is that they have tweaked the rules over the
Speaker 7: years to change with the times, to make it more
Speaker 7: of an offensive game, to make it easier for past
Speaker 7: blocking and that sort of thing. But horse racing have
Speaker 7: they're doing a little more of that, but not they
Speaker 7: haven't been as quick to change. So I mean, I
Speaker 7: think the proposal that you moved the Preakness to the
Speaker 7: first week in June or early in June, and you
Speaker 7: moved to Belmont to early in July. Makes a whole
Speaker 7: lot of sense. But whether they'll do that, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I saw somebody yesterday on social media say, what if
Speaker 7: we said the Derby, the Belmont, and the Travers are
Speaker 7: the real triple Crown? Would that make any you know
Speaker 7: with that? You know in modern horse racing? Is that
Speaker 7: more realistic for a triple Crown and just leave the
Speaker 7: Preakness out of it? You know, I don't know. I'd
Speaker 7: like to see I would like to see tradu hold
Speaker 7: and I've been to Pimlico. Obviously Pimlico is in bad
Speaker 7: shape there. Supposedly someday, I guess they're going to make
Speaker 7: finally make improvements there. But that race has a lot
Speaker 7: of tradition and so forth. So I would like to
Speaker 7: see it stay in the mix. But you know, we'll, we'll,
Speaker 7: we'll see what happens. One thing I think is a
Speaker 7: little different this year. Bill there's you know, Dick, You've
Speaker 7: been around a long time too. There is maybe not
Speaker 7: a more respected trainer than Bill Mott, right, I mean,
Speaker 7: he's a classy guy. He's a respected trainer. He may
Speaker 7: be the best turf trainer, uh in the history of
Speaker 7: horse racing, and he's had a lot of success here
Speaker 7: lately on dirt. You know, remember Bill wouldn't We didn't
Speaker 7: run into Derby for a long time. He didn't get
Speaker 7: two year olds and he didn't think three year olds
Speaker 7: which should be running, you know, he didn't want to
Speaker 7: rush him along. He's kind of changed his thinking lately.
Speaker 7: But for Bill Mott to say, hey, and good Dolphin too,
Speaker 7: because Godolfa wants to They won a lot of races
Speaker 7: and they want to win races. For them to say,
Speaker 7: you know, this isn't the best interest of his horse,
Speaker 7: it's not in the best interest what we want to do.
Speaker 7: To me, I think carries a lot of weight.
Speaker 4: Oh I couldn't agree more. And that's what John surprised
Speaker 4: me more. Really, I wasn't surprised at all that Bill
Speaker 4: Mott soft sold the idea on live TV right after
Speaker 4: he hoisted the trophy. But the first thing that came
Speaker 4: to my mind was, man, go, Dolphin's been chasing this
Speaker 4: Kentucky Derby for years and years and they're doing it right.
Speaker 4: They're buying good blood. They're buying mayors now and trying
Speaker 4: to breed instead of purchase. You know, Kentucky Derby winners,
Speaker 4: and they hire a guy like Bill Mott. Nothing against
Speaker 4: Albert Trony and some of the other trainers they had,
Speaker 4: but I thought, man, these folks have wanted this for
Speaker 4: so long. But you got to respect Bill Mott, like
Speaker 4: you said, and so I guess we shouldn't be too shocked. Well,
Speaker 4: you made a good point about the NFL, and the
Speaker 4: biggest reason, of course, that the NFL makes its changes
Speaker 4: and makes the game more entertaining is for television, not
Speaker 4: for the people in the stadium. They am, they're important too,
Speaker 4: but it's once they turned to TV and wrapped their
Speaker 4: greedy little arms around it, uh that that industry took off.
Speaker 4: And that's another thing we got to remember about the
Speaker 4: triple crown. Yeah, we love to see the big crowds
Speaker 4: you and I do at the race tracks, and the
Speaker 4: figures on the betting handles are phenomenal, but it's about ratings, man,
Speaker 4: And you know, you get somebody going for their triple Crown,
Speaker 4: you're going to get the numbers right.
Speaker 7: Because this is this is the time of year when
Speaker 7: the general public who are the casual racing fan pays
Speaker 7: attention to ors racing. I mean, the Breeders' Cup is
Speaker 7: a great event, but it's in the cover November.
Speaker 4: You got football going on.
Speaker 7: It's got a lot of competition. Uh you know, Uh,
Speaker 7: the NBA is starting up. It's got a lot more
Speaker 7: competition than right now. Right now, basically it's Major League Baseball.
Speaker 7: It's the only competition. Well, you got the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 7: I think that you got the NBA playoffs, but uh,
Speaker 7: you know, because they want to see King a horse
Speaker 7: accomplish a triple crownd chrise. You talk every year about
Speaker 7: the super horse, that sort of thing. So so yeah,
Speaker 7: and but you know, we'll see what happens. I just
Speaker 7: don't expect there to be a change. I think the
Speaker 7: these three tracks will dig in. I've seen before where
Speaker 7: Niris said that they'll never move to Belmont as the
Speaker 7: timing at the Belmont. So you know, I don't know.
Speaker 7: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: You know, when you dig in like that, you're just
Speaker 4: hurting yourself. And I would think that any any thought
Speaker 4: of moving the Prequens out of Baltimore is going to
Speaker 4: be I think met with all kinds of resistance. I'm
Speaker 4: not crazy about that idea either. But if they don't
Speaker 4: make them move that they keep saying they're going to
Speaker 4: make and and bring Pimlical back to life, then they
Speaker 4: may have no choice but to make that kind of change.
Speaker 4: So John Kay is the veteran sports columns and a
Speaker 4: Hall of famer by the way Basketball Writers Association, we
Speaker 4: will talk with basketball with John on the other side
Speaker 4: of the break in a little football here on six
Speaker 4: thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're talking with John Clay. He
Speaker 4: is a sports columnist for the Herald Leader and a
Speaker 4: member of the Basketball Writers Hall of Fame and a
Speaker 4: guy who's seeing his share of UK basketball and Mark Pope.
Speaker 4: You talk about stirring up enthusiasm, John, I mean, it
Speaker 4: was a little more than a year ago that he
Speaker 4: arrived and then he starts putting in roster together and
Speaker 4: everybody seemed pleased, had a good time with the season.
Speaker 4: But man, the excitement for this roster he's put together.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering, is this going to be an annual event?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I probably will. The way the way things are
Speaker 7: going structure down with the transfer portal and so forth. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean who knows. I mean, everybody's obviously,
Speaker 7: as you said, very enthusiastic. I've seen where people have
Speaker 7: rated Kentucky's transfer portal hall at the top or near
Speaker 7: the top in college basketball. But it's you know, it's
Speaker 7: hard to know how they're going to put together, how
Speaker 7: they're going to play together, that sort of thing. I
Speaker 7: think one thing you have to be encouraged about is that,
Speaker 7: as you mentioned, Mark had to do the same thing
Speaker 7: last year, and look what. Look at the job he did.
Speaker 7: I mean when from really from the start of the season.
Speaker 7: These guys look like they played together for a long
Speaker 7: time when they didn't even know each other until they
Speaker 7: got on campus. So if you go by pass performance
Speaker 7: like we do with the horses, you have to say
Speaker 7: that Mark looks like he's doing the same job again.
Speaker 7: But you know, it's interesting pieces that he's brought in.
Speaker 7: I guess he's got maybe one or two more spots.
Speaker 7: We'll see how they fit together. But yeah, you have
Speaker 7: to be encouraged when you look at the resumes of
Speaker 7: the guys he's brought in.
Speaker 4: On three s Texas rank number one and Kentucky rank
Speaker 4: number two. Yeah, Well, like you said, the proof is
Speaker 4: is a putting but you know what I think is
Speaker 4: a big advantage for them, John, And it may have
Speaker 4: hurt them a little bit because they were behind on
Speaker 4: defense for quite a while and maybe Pope picks up
Speaker 4: on that and concentrates more on that earlier. But the
Speaker 4: way his teams play offense, it really demands you know,
Speaker 4: great on court chemistry and so when they jump into that,
Speaker 4: and the key there is going to be which big
Speaker 4: guy can pass the ball the way a Marii Williams
Speaker 4: did right?
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, that's that's a that's a very good point
Speaker 7: because yeah, obviously passing is a big part of his offense.
Speaker 7: The way with their spacing and so forth and how
Speaker 7: they play, I think too the advantage that he had
Speaker 7: this year. You know, coming in last year coach at
Speaker 7: b YU and you hear from people and you saw,
Speaker 7: you know at b YU, you know they were a
Speaker 7: good offensive team as a really progressive NBA style offense,
Speaker 7: but I'm not sure how many people actually saw it.
Speaker 7: And Kentucky gets so much more visibility they saw it
Speaker 7: last year and say hey, I want to play in
Speaker 7: that system. That's a system that will help me in
Speaker 7: the success that he had getting that team to the
Speaker 7: Sweet sixteen and being a good team and a great
Speaker 7: conference last year. I think all of that helps him,
Speaker 7: you know, kind of backing up a little bit on
Speaker 7: the point about the transfer portal and getting the pieces
Speaker 7: to fifth. You know, I went to the Final four
Speaker 7: because of that, mainly because of the Hall of Fame
Speaker 7: induction was held there, but you know, attended the games,
Speaker 7: went to the press conference, wrote from the file four.
Speaker 7: One of the things that Truckby is when Todd Golden
Speaker 7: to Florida coach, when he was asked about the transfer portal,
Speaker 7: he said, the biggest thing for them. They knew after
Speaker 7: their first year or the year before at Florida that
Speaker 7: they had a good offensive team, but they weren't tough enough.
Speaker 7: They needed to be tougher. They needed more of an
Speaker 7: inside presence. So they went out and got two guys
Speaker 7: that maybe people hadn't even heard of. One in particular,
Speaker 7: the guy from Washington how we pronounced his name sheriff
Speaker 7: knew or however name Washington State. And you know he
Speaker 7: wasn't a highly regarded transfer portal guy. I'm sure they
Speaker 7: didn't have him ranked near the top of the transfer portal,
Speaker 7: but he was invaluable to what Florida needed. They needed
Speaker 7: that piece, and I think Mark after last year seeing said,
Speaker 7: I'm sure he probably said, you know, we need to
Speaker 7: be better. We were really good offensively, but we do
Speaker 7: need to be better defensively, and that you know, players
Speaker 7: that he looked for, and I think that's a big
Speaker 7: piece instead of the ratings. Nothing against the ratings, but
Speaker 7: a lot of times it's more about the pieces to
Speaker 7: fit together than just getting talent. And it's just acquiring talent.
Speaker 7: So we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 4: I was to your point. I was a little surprised
Speaker 4: that Amari Williams wasn't more of a presence defensively as
Speaker 4: a rim protector he turned out to be. He was,
Speaker 4: He was not bad. He was okay, you know, three
Speaker 4: time defender of the Year in his conference. But for
Speaker 4: whatever reason, I thought he'd just be a real fly
Speaker 4: swatter back there, and ultimately as the team got better,
Speaker 4: he got better. But I'm with you, I want to see,
Speaker 4: you know what they're like. And man, he's gone for
Speaker 4: size this year, hasn't he.
Speaker 7: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. He's got some big kids.
Speaker 7: And then bringing in the former kid from Lexton Catholic.
Speaker 7: You know, even though he's a walk on, I think
Speaker 7: he's I wouldn't be surprised if he is an integral
Speaker 7: part of the team, even if it's coming off the bench.
Speaker 7: But yeah, he's definitely you can guta look at he's definitely.
Speaker 7: He's targeted size. He felt like that, you know, we
Speaker 7: need that and he had he had some decent size
Speaker 7: last year, as you mentioned with Amar and you know
Speaker 7: Andrew Carr six', eleven Guy. Garrison those guys are big.
Speaker 7: Guys but, YEAH i THINK i would guess that mark
Speaker 7: and we, HOPEFULLY i think we're going to get to
Speaker 7: talk to him next. Week one of the things that
Speaker 7: he targeted, was you know that we need a little
Speaker 7: be better, defensively and who are guys THAT i can
Speaker 7: get who will fit into my offensive system but will
Speaker 7: also be good defensive.
Speaker 2: Players.
Speaker 4: Yeah now they're going to Miss Lamont butler up. Front,
Speaker 4: yeah so that's going to be vital to see how
Speaker 4: they make that transition and who is the leader up.
Speaker 4: THERE a few minutes left With John, clay what was
Speaker 4: your response and your reaction When Travis perry.
Speaker 7: Left a little, surprised but not totally. SURPRISED a little
Speaker 7: surprised to be as A kentucky kid that he would,
Speaker 7: Lead BUT i think he wants to. PLAY i think
Speaker 7: people can't forget he didn't play in The tennessee game
Speaker 7: at the end of the, season in the tournament After
Speaker 7: Lamon butler had come. BACK i think he probably saw
Speaker 7: the writing on the wall with the guys that were brought,
Speaker 7: in you, know to shame because.
Speaker 2: He's A kentucky.
Speaker 7: Kid BUT i think he's got a landing spot at Ole.
Speaker 7: MISS i really Like Chris. BEARD i Think Chris beard
Speaker 7: is a heck of a. Coach and If Chris pard
Speaker 7: Thinks Travis peary can play for, him AND i Think
Speaker 7: Travis perry can play for, Him so you, KNOW i
Speaker 7: hate to see him Lee kentucky as A kentucky, kid
Speaker 7: BUT i wasn't totally.
Speaker 4: Surprised, Yeah i'm with. You my thing is he IS
Speaker 4: i think a shooting guard trapped in a point guard's.
Speaker 4: Body SO i really want to see how he fits
Speaker 4: into That Ole miss. System they like to get up
Speaker 4: and down the, floor you, know and he's got that
Speaker 4: period between freshmen and sophomore years when a lot of
Speaker 4: kids move. Up BUT i think you're. RIGHT i think
Speaker 4: when he saw as, Well Colin chandler just absolutely blossoming
Speaker 4: at the end of the, year that was something to,
Speaker 4: see wasn't.
Speaker 7: It, Right Absolute it's funny because of a friend of
Speaker 7: mine who is a basketball guy but not really. Connected
Speaker 7: he's been telling me early, on, SAID i guarantee you
Speaker 7: by the end of the, Year Colin chandler is going
Speaker 7: to be a big factor on this. Team and he
Speaker 7: was really headed in that direction towards the end of the,
Speaker 7: year So i'm sure that figured into. It why did
Speaker 7: you his thinking as?
Speaker 4: Well why did your friend say, That you, know he
Speaker 4: just when he.
Speaker 7: Liked his athletic ability and the fact that he had
Speaker 7: been off for two. Years it was going to take
Speaker 7: him a little while to. Develop but with his athletic,
Speaker 7: ability he thought that he would be a good. Player
Speaker 7: he would be one of those guys that people maybe
Speaker 7: got off to slow start and, say, oh, well he's not.
Speaker 7: Ready but by the end of the, year he'll be a.
Speaker 7: Factor AND i think HE i think you're. RIGHT i,
Speaker 7: mean he's going to be even much more of a
Speaker 7: factor next year now that he has a full off
Speaker 7: season where he already knows the, system you, know the
Speaker 7: going into next year where he was trying to learn
Speaker 7: everything coming off a two year. Layoff so uh, YEAH
Speaker 7: i think he'll definitely be a big factor next.
Speaker 4: Year you. Know i'm sure you heard The John rostein
Speaker 4: interview the, podcast and of Course mark's gonna gush about,
Speaker 4: everybody BUT i really believe he was absolutely sincere when
Speaker 4: he talked About Trent, noah you, know and he talked
Speaker 4: About trent all year long about, it but you know
Speaker 4: This Trent noah like, this this element of wonderment and his,
Speaker 4: voice and having having watched and play throughout The sweet,
Speaker 4: SIXTEEN i GUESS i should say. It it doesn't surprise.
Speaker 4: Me BUT i think given his, Size, John he'll be
Speaker 4: able to carve out more playing.
Speaker 7: TIME i think the biggest thing With, trent know is
Speaker 7: he'll had sort of like we've talked about before With Colin,
Speaker 7: chandler a year in the, system but he'll have a
Speaker 7: year where he's in the weight, program in the conditioning.
Speaker 7: PROGRAM i think he'll get bigger and, stronger WHICH i
Speaker 7: think will help, him you. Know AND i think there were,
Speaker 7: things not just, offensively but he showed some things defensively
Speaker 7: That mark. Alike not that he's a great, defender.
Speaker 2: But he can.
Speaker 7: BE i think he's got a chance to be a
Speaker 7: much better. Defender so he as you mentioned About Travis
Speaker 7: perry being the shooting guard and a point guard's, BODY
Speaker 7: i Think trent has a little bit of an advantage
Speaker 7: in that that he's, bigger and you, know you show
Speaker 7: what he can do kind of instant offense off the.
Speaker 7: Bench BUT i think it's really going TO i think
Speaker 7: he should really benefit from having a whole off season
Speaker 7: in the, system not as a, freshman but a, sophomore
Speaker 7: with some institutional knowledge of how things are, done how
Speaker 7: they are, done and What Mark pope wants to. DO
Speaker 7: i think that'll really benefit.
Speaker 4: Him and when he builds that upper body, strength he'll
Speaker 4: be even better. Defensively. Right that'll keep him on the. Floor,
Speaker 4: John BEFORE i let you, GO i was able to
Speaker 4: watch Your Cincinnati reds last night play The. BRAVES i
Speaker 4: don't have THE mlb, package SO i, Said, man they
Speaker 4: wasted a great pitching, performance Didn't they lost in A.
Speaker 7: Yeah they've done several of. Those they just can't they
Speaker 7: can't seem to score, consistently score runs. Consistently the offense
Speaker 7: has just not been. There you, Know matt, McLain who
Speaker 7: was really on a couple of years ago and obviously
Speaker 7: missed last. YEAR i guess it's still the. RUST i,
Speaker 7: mean he's hitting below two. Hundred you, Know they've had
Speaker 7: some other guys that they thought were going to be
Speaker 7: good offensive players who are not have have not been
Speaker 7: able to. PRODUCE i think It's stevenson Back, helps but,
Speaker 7: yeah they've they've. Wasted their pitching has been really really,
Speaker 7: good especially the. ROTATION i, MEAN i don't know that
Speaker 7: there's too many rotations better than the rotation they have.
Speaker 7: Gone starting rotation with The Hunter, Green wilodolo and you,
Speaker 7: know the guy they got From Kansas City. Singer he's pitched,
Speaker 7: well but he hasn't gotten a lot of run support
Speaker 7: the last few, Games so you, know we'll. SEE i
Speaker 7: like What Frank ConA has. DONE i think he's brought
Speaker 7: a different kind of attitude to the, team but they
Speaker 7: got to start scoring runs on a more distant basis
Speaker 7: if they're going to have a chance to being in
Speaker 7: the hunt for the.
Speaker 4: Playoffs it's a winnable. Division My cardinals aren't any. Good
Speaker 4: i'd love to see The reds jump up and win
Speaker 4: it so, well you, know but you're A reds. Fan
Speaker 4: you're used to that, though, right, yes, right sad to
Speaker 4: say sad to Say, john thank you so. Much watch
Speaker 4: For john's work At kentucky dot com and of course
Speaker 4: on ex For twitter At john Clay. Ivy thank, you,
Speaker 4: Sir thank. You dick coming up an Hour number. Two
Speaker 4: Unforgettable Guard Sean wood And west M bureau Chief Gary.
Speaker 4: Moore that's ALL i had on six thirty W.
Speaker 8: Ipecacutacta don't.
Speaker 4: S welcome back to The Big. Moon sider joining us
Speaker 4: now does each and Every wednesday Is Sean. Woods the
Speaker 4: unforgettable guard Is jersey hangs in the raptors of. Rup
Speaker 4: he's not a head coach At Scott County High school.
Speaker 4: Coach last week you sent me a tweet From Jeff
Speaker 4: goodman From he's obviously a writer and a podcaster and
Speaker 4: covers college, basketball and he had polled twenty five or
Speaker 4: more high major coaches about salary numbers for the. Year
Speaker 4: but some of these numbers showan are just mind. Boggling
Speaker 4: top ten to fifteen guys getting two and a half
Speaker 4: to four million projected all conference player one and a
Speaker 4: half to two and a half, million projected starters half
Speaker 4: a million to one and a half and projected bench
Speaker 4: players two hundred to seven hundred. Thousand, now i know
Speaker 4: you're all in favor of the players getting what they've
Speaker 4: deserved all, along But i've got to think from the
Speaker 4: head coach's, position and of course you're a high school,
Speaker 4: coach you've coached, college you've played. Collegeball how much more
Speaker 4: challenging does this make? It four, coaches especially assistant, coaches
Speaker 4: you need to earn the respect and trust of these
Speaker 4: kids when they're making that kind of.
Speaker 2: MONEY i, mean you said the, Best. DICK i, mean.
Speaker 1: It's like the prisoners are starting to roll, with you,
Speaker 1: know run the. Asylum you, know they're coming in with
Speaker 1: this type of, salary and with that type of salary
Speaker 1: brings on a different, mentality you, know and it's hard
Speaker 1: to treat young people who are supposed to be amateurs like.
Speaker 2: Pros but that's.
Speaker 1: How you're going to have, to you, know treat them
Speaker 1: loud because from a disrespect, standpoint from a from a
Speaker 1: from a, uh you, know what they're doing on the,
Speaker 1: court to academics to every little, thing you, know and
Speaker 1: then some of. Them you get every kid is not
Speaker 1: going to be, good so but you still got to
Speaker 1: pay them the, money you, know like. EVERYBODY i, mean
Speaker 1: this is this stuff right here is free agent see
Speaker 1: in THE.
Speaker 2: Nba you know What i'm.
Speaker 4: Saying oh, Sure.
Speaker 1: So if you're paying a kid two point five to four,
Speaker 1: million say he's not as good as you thought he,
Speaker 1: was but you still got to pay that. Too and
Speaker 1: then you got the other kid that's supposed to be
Speaker 1: a projected bench player who's making two hundred to seven hundred,
Speaker 1: thousand but he's he's producing more so than the projected elite.
Speaker 1: Guy and he starts to play more than that projected elite.
Speaker 2: Guy what, Happens oh, yeah oh, yeah he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna want more. Money he's gonna want that. Money that
Speaker 1: that you know What i'm. Saying so now you're getting
Speaker 1: into the locker. Room you, know why is this? Guy you,
Speaker 1: know he's making this type of money And i'm making
Speaker 1: this But i'm producing more than, him you know What i'm.
Speaker 2: Saying now you get the parents. Involved now they're calling the.
Speaker 1: Coach you, Know now what's supposed to be important is
Speaker 1: the betterment of the. Team now is getting more. Personal
Speaker 1: you know What i'm, Saying it's all about money, Now
Speaker 1: it's not about you know how this team is gonna,
Speaker 1: fare you, know going, forward trying to make win a,
Speaker 1: championship you, KNOW sec, CHAMPIONSHIP ncaa championship or.
Speaker 2: Whatever it's Just claudi's.
Speaker 1: UP i, MEAN i just can't see how you can
Speaker 1: sustain the locker room when there's a, comparison and money
Speaker 1: is a.
Speaker 4: Comparison how much more important Than sean is it for
Speaker 4: any head, coach not Just Mark, pope but any head
Speaker 4: coach to nail it when they're bringing in kids through the,
Speaker 4: portal you got a. Chance you, know it's. DIFFERENT i
Speaker 4: know if you're recruiting a high school, kid but it's,
Speaker 4: similar of, Course but to get to know a kid
Speaker 4: when you're scouting, them when you're talking to, them to
Speaker 4: make sure they've got the character that can at least
Speaker 4: assure you up front that the locker room is not
Speaker 4: going to be that great of an. Issue now things,
Speaker 4: CHANGE i know, that BUT i got to, think, man
Speaker 4: there's so much more pressure on these coaches, now no
Speaker 4: doubt about.
Speaker 2: It because when you everybody's transferring for a.
Speaker 1: Reason, Right, Okay now you're transferring either because you and you,
Speaker 1: know sometimes these guys are transferring their coaches want them to.
Speaker 2: Leave if that makes, sense you know What i'm.
Speaker 1: Saying so so you, know some of these kids are
Speaker 1: transferring and not even coming in on a visit until
Speaker 1: after the, fact so you're not really getting.
Speaker 2: To know these guys only through you.
Speaker 1: KNOW i hope some of these guys are calling the
Speaker 1: coaches and, say, hey tell me your experience with this
Speaker 1: kid while he played with. YOU i hope you're doing.
Speaker 1: That and if you, are you, know some coaches that
Speaker 1: want to get rid of them may tell you something
Speaker 1: just to just to make sure that you take, them
Speaker 1: to take them up their, hands because they're Not they're
Speaker 1: not Gonna they're not.
Speaker 2: Gonna pay that.
Speaker 1: Kid that the reason why you're. Leaving you're leaving for
Speaker 1: more money for the most, part and place that you.
Speaker 1: At they're saying to, you, well we know who you
Speaker 1: are in our, minds you're not worthy.
Speaker 2: Of that type of.
Speaker 1: Money so other team who just needs bodies and another talented,
Speaker 1: kid but don't know the character of the, kid is
Speaker 1: gonna pay that kid that money that the other school
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna pay. Him and he turns out to be
Speaker 1: a third. There it's, Hard, DICK i mean it's super.
Speaker 1: Hard and LIKE i told you before when we, talk
Speaker 1: the best thing That pope did for this past team,
Speaker 1: was even though you, know injuries came, about they play
Speaker 1: seventh in THE, sec which is not you, know you
Speaker 1: Know kentucky expects more than. That but he did a
Speaker 1: great job with character. Kids you, know he struck lighting
Speaker 1: in the bottle with great character kids who wanted to be,
Speaker 1: here no matter if it was money or. Not they
Speaker 1: have to put that jersey on and play at the
Speaker 1: Taj mahal of college. Basketball, well now it's not going
Speaker 1: to be that every year, anymore because it's getting more and.
Speaker 1: More you, know these kids are getting more and more,
Speaker 1: selfish more and more hungry for chasing the dollar more
Speaker 1: so than chasing a place where they can grow and
Speaker 1: win a championship and.
Speaker 2: Help that coach be.
Speaker 1: Successful that's the line that you just got to be careful.
Speaker 2: Of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah and it's gonna get harder every year for
Speaker 4: like you, said for. Coaches And i'm wondering now, too
Speaker 4: a guy like you you have. Played you were a
Speaker 4: great high school, player you were a great college. Player
Speaker 4: part of a great story in college. Basketball you've COACHED
Speaker 4: d one, Basketball you've coached a team to the Nca.
Speaker 4: Tournament you're coaching a high school. Program now that's got
Speaker 4: all kinds of. Tradition but what is going to BE
Speaker 4: i guess it'll vary from kid to. Kid maybe what
Speaker 4: is the role your role now going to be in?
Speaker 4: Recruiting with all this, money all this money flying, around
Speaker 4: all these figures flying, around AND i know that oftentimes
Speaker 4: high school coaches are eliminated from the process and THE
Speaker 4: aau guys are the. Middleman tell me what your thoughts
Speaker 4: are going into your new.
Speaker 1: Job, well BECAUSE i do have great experience And i'm.
Speaker 1: Coming you, KNOW i was one of the guys that
Speaker 1: you had them press and one of the guys that
Speaker 1: was evaluating you from a from a high school. Standpoint you,
Speaker 1: Know i'm just gonna be able to WHAT i. Bring
Speaker 1: gonna bring to the table is the educated part of
Speaker 1: what to look, for you, know to prepare these kids
Speaker 1: for that when they get, there and also.
Speaker 2: What turns a coach, on what turns the.
Speaker 1: Coach, off what they're looking, for and you, know also
Speaker 1: to bear and hopefully advise them as far as what
Speaker 1: they're worth is, yeah you know that that's going to be.
Speaker 1: Big and you know a big part of my job,
Speaker 1: too and What i'm trying to bring to the table.
Speaker 2: Is to show them their.
Speaker 1: Worth but you have to work hard to become worthy
Speaker 1: of what you're asking for when it comes to you,
Speaker 1: know moneies and attraction from a player. Standpoint so that's
Speaker 1: What i'm bringing to the table that. Part so when
Speaker 1: you leave, me first of, All i'm gonna help you
Speaker 1: through the process from a from a negotiating standpoint and
Speaker 1: show you what you're. Worth And i'm be honest with
Speaker 1: college coaches, too so they're not wasting their time thinking
Speaker 1: this kids better than what he is Or i'm telling
Speaker 1: a coach that this kid's better than what you think he.
Speaker 1: Is you know What i'm, saying because most of them
Speaker 1: gonna trust me because of my. Experience so that's What
Speaker 1: i'm going to bring to the, table more so the
Speaker 1: most high school coaches. Period but you, know the mindset
Speaker 1: is What i'm going to work. On you know What i'm, Saying,
Speaker 1: like you got to have some type of you got
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: Humbled you, know some of.
Speaker 1: These kids now are coming, in you, know getting raised
Speaker 1: and things like, that and they're thinking, that you, know
Speaker 1: because they were a high School All american or a
Speaker 1: state all state, guy that everything's going to be the
Speaker 1: same when they get to. College, no every freshman, struggles
Speaker 1: and they're going to struggle even more now because you're
Speaker 1: playing against more grown, men older guys that are not
Speaker 1: just twenty, two eighteen to twenty. Two you're dealing with
Speaker 1: kids now there are twenty to twenty.
Speaker 4: Six oh, yeah oh, yeah that's a great.
Speaker 9: Point so you come into you, know you're not doing
Speaker 9: a four year deal to where you used to playing
Speaker 9: against the guy as a, freshman and you plan against you,
Speaker 9: know you coming in if your talent to eighth, grade
Speaker 9: are coming in.
Speaker 1: As a in high school as a talented, freshman and
Speaker 1: you're going to struggle a little, bit but you're good
Speaker 1: enough to play on the varsity as a. Freshman, Okay
Speaker 1: now when you go to, college you got to add
Speaker 1: two more years to, that if that makes.
Speaker 10: Sense and these coaches now got to be careful of
Speaker 10: how many high school especially the high, majors of how many.
Speaker 1: High school kids are you're going to take that you
Speaker 1: got to pay a high dollar to get compared to
Speaker 1: the transfers that have experienced stronger so, long stronger mentally and.
Speaker 1: Physically you know who you're getting at a decent price
Speaker 1: of maybe half a, Million but you're going to get
Speaker 1: this McDonald All american that you've got.
Speaker 2: To get one point two to two million two.
Speaker 1: That's not worthy of that because they ain't excuse my,
Speaker 1: language p to.
Speaker 4: Drop and then maybe there will be some, day but
Speaker 4: you don't know from year to year if they're going
Speaker 4: to be on your.
Speaker 1: Team what happened to the day's dick of earning a?
Speaker 1: Raise you know What i'm, saying not coming in with
Speaker 1: a high, dollar but earning your keep and deserving a
Speaker 1: rays more so than coming in at a high dollar
Speaker 1: at a high. Clip even going into THE, nba there's
Speaker 1: only so much you can make as a, rookie, right
Speaker 1: and then you earn your keep to get that next
Speaker 1: contract that pays you.
Speaker 2: More that's. Right that should be the same thing in.
Speaker 4: College maybe it will Be Shawn. Woods my guess he
Speaker 4: is an unforgettable. Guard As jersey hangs in the raptors
Speaker 4: of Rupp we'll come back and talk more basketball in
Speaker 4: just a minute on six THIRTY Wlap welcome, back we're
Speaker 4: talking With Sean. Woods he's now the head coach At
Speaker 4: Scott County High. School he of course is one of
Speaker 4: the unforgettables and we talk basketball each week with a.
Speaker 4: Coach one more recruiting question for. You you. Got let's
Speaker 4: say you've got a high profile, Kid you've got, recruits
Speaker 4: recruiters coming in every week and spinning their, pitch respective.
Speaker 4: Pitches whether you are in on any of these gatherings or,
Speaker 4: not what kind of things will you tell? Recruits in other,
Speaker 4: WORDS i guess warning might be too strong a, word
Speaker 4: but how will you educate a perspective recruit on how
Speaker 4: to listen to these guys because some of, them as you,
Speaker 4: know will tell you everything you want to. Hear and
Speaker 4: then you had other guys and recruits told us. This
Speaker 4: Cali perry told Them kentucky's not for, everybody and it's
Speaker 4: gonna be the hardest thing you ever. Did AND i
Speaker 4: got to Think bettino was the same way with a
Speaker 4: lot of his. RECRUITS i know he didn't recruit, you
Speaker 4: but that's how it turned. Out what can you share
Speaker 4: with kids when it comes to hearing all the praises
Speaker 4: and all the recruiting pitches and then it might turn
Speaker 4: out to be something else once you get to. Campus well, me.
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i know most of these college coaches AND i
Speaker 1: can read them like a. Book And i'm sure that
Speaker 1: when a college coach comes to my, place comes to
Speaker 1: sky and recruiting my, players they know that they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be on the up and. Up And i'm
Speaker 1: Not i'm not gonna sell my kid down the road
Speaker 1: and put him in a bad situation because we're already
Speaker 1: dealing with TRANSFERRED i, mean transferring is not only into college,
Speaker 1: ranks their high school kids are transferring at a rapid rate.
Speaker 1: Now and you, know coaches are looking for, stability they're
Speaker 1: looking for, Character they're looking, for you, know guys that
Speaker 1: they can they can. Trust but in today's, age because
Speaker 1: there's so much money, involved it's hard for. That so
Speaker 1: what my deal is is.
Speaker 2: This you, know.
Speaker 1: Your character is gonna take you a long, way and
Speaker 1: that's the only. THING i can't control you once you leave.
Speaker 1: Me But i'm gonna try to put my kid in
Speaker 1: the best situation from a long term, standpoint And i'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to be.
Speaker 2: Honest not only with the, kid my kid that the
Speaker 2: colleges are coming to. Recruit BUT i got to.
Speaker 1: Be honest and make that school honest with me on you,
Speaker 1: know how they see. Him you, know Hopefully i'll sit
Speaker 1: be in the city is with when that guy comes
Speaker 1: in to. Recruit you, know my, Players i'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to ask those questions with.
Speaker 2: It you, know what is your? Max what is your
Speaker 2: what is your? Max as far as n il's.
Speaker 1: Concerned you, KNOW i may have a kid that doesn't
Speaker 1: you know that just that's not that type of kid
Speaker 1: that even deserves IN il. Money but you, know and
Speaker 1: and when that, COMES i got to be honest with
Speaker 1: my kid to, say you're not that level, kid and
Speaker 1: this is your.
Speaker 2: Level you need to do. This but IF i have
Speaker 2: a high.
Speaker 1: Major, kid a mind major college, kid Then i'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna educate them as much as.
Speaker 1: Possible but only not only, That i'm gonna ask the
Speaker 1: tough questions to the to the to the guys that
Speaker 1: are coming in to recruit. Them you know those, deals
Speaker 1: you know how much money you. Got you know what
Speaker 1: if this situation, happens because it's going to. Happen what
Speaker 1: if he becomes an all conference, player you, know or
Speaker 1: or more attractive to somebody's needs at a higher. Level
Speaker 1: how are you going to be able to? Sustain and
Speaker 1: if you can't, sustain at least we know going in
Speaker 1: that you, know if this kid becomes all all of,
Speaker 1: this all that and becomes more attracted to the high major,
Speaker 1: schools knowing that this is going to, happen you, know
Speaker 1: we know this going.
Speaker 2: In this is how it. Works so it's nobody. Surprised.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah we've we've talked a lot about parents here
Speaker 4: of the last two or three conversations you AND i have,
Speaker 4: had and, Uh i'm, wondering was your Mom you've talked
Speaker 4: about your mom a. Lot was she involved in your
Speaker 4: recruiting at? All did she sit, in did she have?
Speaker 4: Questions what did? What how did that? Work?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah my mom never questioned my coach THAT i
Speaker 1: was playing. Right but as far as the recruiting, process oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: She was right, there no doubt about. It you.
Speaker 1: Know she she told Coach, sutton Asked Cose sutton point
Speaker 1: blank and told him she, SAID i know My. SEAN
Speaker 1: i think My sean is better than your Shank.
Speaker 2: And is that going to be a? Problem and.
Speaker 1: She was exactly, right and and you, know she asked
Speaker 1: those tough questions you, Know Bob knight came in to
Speaker 1: my home and he couldn't he couldn't intimidate my. Mom you,
Speaker 1: know my mom.
Speaker 2: Once you got, me now you got. Me you, know
Speaker 2: she wasn't gonna question my. Minutes you, know none of.
Speaker 2: That my mom never said anything To Coach.
Speaker 1: Patino matter of, fact she barely even spoke To Coach
Speaker 1: patino and vice, versa because that was my. World then
Speaker 1: that was me becoming an adult and trying to figure
Speaker 1: some things, out you, know and she allowed. That you,
Speaker 1: know these parents, now they want they want to control,
Speaker 1: everything every, narrative and that's what makes the experience.
Speaker 2: Money and nobody wants to deal with.
Speaker 1: You you, Know i'm not going to you know What i'm,
Speaker 1: saying deal with that type of situation with. Parents you,
Speaker 1: know it's got to be a trust. Heal you, know
Speaker 1: because of my, EXPERIENCE i DON'T i have more experience than.
Speaker 2: Any parent out. There i'm not going to misuse a.
Speaker 1: Kid i'm gonna try to get them to be to
Speaker 1: become the best players they can be BECAUSE i need them.
Speaker 2: To become the best player to be SO i can,
Speaker 2: win you know WHAT i.
Speaker 1: Mean, so so you know we're going to be on
Speaker 1: the same. Page But i'm not going to try to
Speaker 1: win the dinner. TABLE i didn't try to win it
Speaker 1: WHEN i was in WHEN i was coaching, college And
Speaker 1: i'm not going to try to do it, Now dick and,
Speaker 1: uh you, know that's the reason Why Scott county hired
Speaker 1: me because of my experience and HOPEFULLY i don't have
Speaker 1: to deal with those situations because parents are ruining these
Speaker 1: kids at a rapid. Rate and if you go watch
Speaker 1: a high school, game you see parents acting like an,
Speaker 1: idiot you, know sitting there at half, court you, know
Speaker 1: challenging the, reps challenging the, coach talking about the, coach
Speaker 1: going on social media saying bad, things and your kid got.
Speaker 2: To go back and play for that.
Speaker 4: Guysmates in the hallway.
Speaker 2: Exactly so you know WHAT i.
Speaker 1: Mean so that's you, know you, know you, know and
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be that type of party.
Speaker 2: Here that's going to make got kind of. Unique trust.
Speaker 2: Me you, know we won't have one conversation.
Speaker 1: At the beginning and then after, that you, know is
Speaker 1: every day gonna be? Peachy, no but nowhere every day's.
Speaker 1: Peachy is he gonna have a bad? Game is somebody
Speaker 1: else gonna play more than. Him is he not gonna
Speaker 1: get shots that he want to?
Speaker 2: Get so on and so.
Speaker 1: Forth as a head basketball, coach in my, Experience i'm
Speaker 1: not dealing with. That i'm at the end of the,
Speaker 1: day if you, win everybody gets what they, want and a,
Speaker 1: coach you ain't got to score twenty five points a
Speaker 1: night for a coach to think that you're good enough
Speaker 1: to play at that.
Speaker 2: University that's not how it.
Speaker 4: IS i like The i'm not gonna win a dinner.
Speaker 4: TABLE i will remember that WHEN i think about recruiting.
Speaker 4: Now and by the, way in all, Fairness Sean sutton
Speaker 4: did become a good guard At Oklahoma. State like three
Speaker 4: years into his. Career he got better and was a
Speaker 4: better shooter and. Passer but, YEAH i think the the
Speaker 4: india Of sean was a little bit better or a
Speaker 4: lot better than the. Coaches, kid, coach thank you so
Speaker 4: much as always great talking to.
Speaker 1: You saying You.
Speaker 2: Dick always buddy up.
Speaker 4: Next Gary moore Or West End Bureau Chief back in a,
Speaker 4: minute six thirty, Wlap welcome back to The Big blue And.
Speaker 4: Cider it Is, wednesday which means we cast our eyes
Speaker 4: to the, west where we find Our West end bureau,
Speaker 4: Chief Gary, moore joined your each and every. Week there's
Speaker 4: a lot on his. MIND i can tell you, that
Speaker 4: well there.
Speaker 11: Is it's two guys in a six. PACK i got
Speaker 11: six things to bring up, here six, swigs and you
Speaker 11: got to help me with. This there's a lot of
Speaker 11: stuff we got to unpack here, Today. Dick, first of,
Speaker 11: course the big story over here In Derby. Town less
Speaker 11: than three days after the Thrilling derby one fifty one,
Speaker 11: Wins sovereignties peeps notify the preetness peeps that they were
Speaker 11: chickening passing On pimlico to concentrate on The belmont next. Month,
Speaker 11: hey thanks for the triple, crown buzzkill. Pal after, that
Speaker 11: the most and all of this after the moment to
Speaker 11: Watch derby since what nineteen eighty?
Speaker 3: Nine it's a record.
Speaker 4: This year FOR.
Speaker 11: Nbc also a, record by the, way three hundred and
Speaker 11: forty nine million bet on The Derby day. Program SO
Speaker 11: i have two questions for, you, sir since you have
Speaker 11: covered horse racing for decades and probably have forgotten more
Speaker 11: Than i'll ever know about horse. Racing Number, one given
Speaker 11: the great storyline journalism and, sovereignty going neck and neck
Speaker 11: down the. Stretch why wouldn't they want to try for
Speaker 11: the triple? CROWN i, mean are horses more fragile? NOWADAYS i,
Speaker 11: mean didn't bother secretary and a bunch of others that
Speaker 11: have done this in a couple of weeks? Time and
Speaker 11: also does this now mean like some have said that
Speaker 11: The preakness has got to be moved more than just
Speaker 11: two weeks after the, DERBY i think D Wayne lucas had,
Speaker 11: said moved The preakness To Memorial day in The belmont
Speaker 11: To july.
Speaker 3: Fourth what do you, Think, WELL.
Speaker 4: I think you've nailed it. All to answer your first, Question,
Speaker 4: yes they are more fragile because readers have changed the
Speaker 4: way they are. Doing they've changed the. Science they are
Speaker 4: breeding more for. Speed and you don't need to race
Speaker 4: thirty odd times to make your. Money now you got
Speaker 4: a good horse and you win two or three races
Speaker 4: or even place and three or, four the purses are
Speaker 4: so great that you make your. Money you can pay your,
Speaker 4: bills you can pay the note on your, farm you
Speaker 4: can pay the, help and you don't need to run
Speaker 4: that horse into the. Ground you might not make as much,
Speaker 4: breeding but you'll cover your. Bills and that's the first
Speaker 4: thing you got to. Do but to your, point AND
Speaker 4: i talked about this earlier on the show With John
Speaker 4: clay and and myself THAT i talked to. Myself of,
Speaker 4: course that's a good way to get an intelligent. Answer,
Speaker 4: yeah And gary had did the. TURNAROUND i Told John clay,
Speaker 4: this it's, like AND i know how you feel about
Speaker 4: the designated. HITTER i finally gave. Up i'm, like, look
Speaker 4: you got to make the change for the good of the.
Speaker 4: Game As john pointed, out THE nfl has made change
Speaker 4: a rule changes to make the game more pat for the. Fans.
Speaker 4: Yep and this is what The Triple crown's. About it's
Speaker 4: building the fan. Base so why not move it Now
Speaker 4: if it's better for the, horses if it's better for the,
Speaker 4: fans and it's not locked in as traditionally as you might,
Speaker 4: think because back in the day they ran the calendar
Speaker 4: was all over the. Map so you, know quit being
Speaker 4: so stubborn and do the smart thing in terms of your.
Speaker 11: Business you got more time to promote it, too think
Speaker 11: about stretching this out and like we're building up just you,
Speaker 11: know now just a week, away, now two weeks. Whatever,
Speaker 11: yeah all, right we solved that.
Speaker 3: Problem second swig in a six.
Speaker 11: Pack we go from horse racing to pennant racing college
Speaker 11: baseball season down to the final two regular season. Weekends
Speaker 11: and by the, way do they actually award real pennants
Speaker 11: the felt things to the winners or just buy those
Speaker 11: in the?
Speaker 3: Bookstore?
Speaker 4: Right those are ones? Though you fly over the, Stadium,
Speaker 4: yeah that's what it is there you.
Speaker 11: Go, yeah, anyway last night over here At Jim Patterson,
Speaker 11: stadium NINETEEN U ofl beat the number Ten Vandy boys
Speaker 11: five to, four the battle of the, barrel barrel of
Speaker 11: SOMETHING i don't, know probably, beer you.
Speaker 4: Know college.
Speaker 11: Guys cards are now thirty three and, fifteen tied for
Speaker 11: sixth place in THE. Acc now they get three at
Speaker 11: third Place Georgia tech Starting friday. Night My, hilltoppers like Your,
Speaker 11: wildcats got the week off for. Finals cats need a break,
Speaker 11: though after that miserable over three weekend. Start vegas doesn't
Speaker 11: get any Easier friday when number Sixteen oklahoma is in for.
Speaker 11: Three Senior day is On. Saturday by the, way what
Speaker 11: is your biggest problem that you? See The cats have
Speaker 11: to fix if they want to go far into the
Speaker 11: tournament and.
Speaker 4: Beyond they gotta get back to what they were doing
Speaker 4: successfully before Your toppers beat, them and that's actually now
Speaker 4: four game losing. Streak, yeah they were finally getting quality
Speaker 4: at bats and matching good pitching with good. Offense but
Speaker 4: this offense is not nearly as explosive as it was last.
Speaker 4: Year it's not as. Consistent they do have some injuries
Speaker 4: to keep. Players Patrick carrera being at has really affected
Speaker 4: them quite a bit more THAN i thought it. Would
Speaker 4: but they've just got to put all that behind him
Speaker 4: and put runs on the board because they're pitching for
Speaker 4: the most part has been pretty. Good. Now you got
Speaker 4: to throw out that first game like a bad horse
Speaker 4: race Against Mississippi state when they got run, Ruled but
Speaker 4: it looked like they were getting, pitching hitting in defense
Speaker 4: at just the right. TIME i don't know if there's
Speaker 4: Time gary to reclaim, that but they've got to do it.
Speaker 3: Now third swig at a six.
Speaker 11: Packs speaking OF uk AND u OF, l is it
Speaker 11: true the Annual cards And Cats Governor's cup football game
Speaker 11: maybe move back to the first game of the season
Speaker 11: for both. Schools lousville Ad Josh hurt said last week
Speaker 11: that the powers that be in charge of all this stuff.
Speaker 3: Are talking about.
Speaker 11: It josh himself, said, quote ESPN's got a big say
Speaker 11: and when these games take, place and they're going to
Speaker 11: do what they think is best from a viewership standpoint.
Speaker 11: Unquote in other, words it's going to get, moved all.
Speaker 11: Right so which do you prefer opening the season with, it,
Speaker 11: say maybe even On Labor, day as one scenario has,
Speaker 11: it or just keeping it for last where it's been
Speaker 11: since nineteen ninety, four or even In week three like
Speaker 11: it was during The Rich brooks.
Speaker 4: Days The rich brook stage was About brooks wanting his
Speaker 4: team to be more capable and ready to play that.
Speaker 4: Game but let's work. Backwards having the game at the
Speaker 4: end of the, Season i'll have to admit has worked
Speaker 4: out on several occasions For kentucky needing a win to
Speaker 4: get to A bowl game or providing. Momentum but with
Speaker 4: a CAPITAL. B i'm in the hype business in a
Speaker 4: sports talk radio show, host And i've always said this
Speaker 4: As Opening day was a god send or people like.
Speaker 4: Me and when you go, back as you mentioned in ninety,
Speaker 4: Four Howard schnellenberger And Bill curry put their heads, together
Speaker 4: agreed to play this, game played it on day one
Speaker 4: of the, schedule and to his, Credit, schnellenberger as smart
Speaker 4: as he, was agreed to play the first four In
Speaker 4: lexington because he couldn't get THE u OF l donors
Speaker 4: off their red and black butts to build him a new.
Speaker 4: Stadium and once the game started to pile, UP u
Speaker 4: OF l people suddenly woke, Up, man we need a new.
Speaker 4: Stadium and it. Happened, okay now they move it because OF.
Speaker 4: Tv they move it to the end of the. Year
Speaker 4: THE sec network had a lot to do with. That
Speaker 4: but and a lot of people mistakenly, thought, well now
Speaker 4: it's going to be part of that great weekend of you,
Speaker 4: know traditional. Matchups who cares outside of the state Of
Speaker 4: kentucky about this game right? Now nobody does because they're
Speaker 4: busy looking at all those other great. Matchups it got.
Speaker 4: Lost and you, Know i'm not a bright, person but
Speaker 4: that is exactly WHAT i. Predicted this game is gonna
Speaker 4: get lost among all of those big. Games so now
Speaker 4: go back to the first week when you're the only
Speaker 4: game in, town maybe that night or that, afternoon and
Speaker 4: all of college football is looking in On kentucky And.
Speaker 4: Louisville it just makes too much sense said correct.
Speaker 11: It actually it's been the last game Since louisville joined THE,
Speaker 11: acc WHICH i think was what Four.
Speaker 4: Yeah But louisville has still wanted it on opening. Day
Speaker 4: It's kentucky that didn't want it. There And i've always
Speaker 4: felt gary like it was an advantage For louisville because WITH,
Speaker 4: uk with all due respect to THE, acc WITH uk
Speaker 4: working through THE, sec you're gonna have a lot more
Speaker 4: lumps and bruises at the end of the year going
Speaker 4: through that. Schedule and you will right now A acc,
Speaker 4: schedule no.
Speaker 11: Doubt forth Swig and while we're talking college, football what's
Speaker 11: With Nick saban Bending trump's healed up ear about nil
Speaker 11: money and how those deals are hurting college, sports never
Speaker 11: mind how much the coaches rake, in especially with the buyout.
Speaker 3: Clauses we got to do something about these damn.
Speaker 4: Kids.
Speaker 11: Okay trump's administration is thinking about an executive order increasing
Speaker 11: scrutiny of the explosion and payments to college. Athletes according
Speaker 11: To Wall Street, journal what does all that gobbledygook? Mean
Speaker 11: who knows first he wants to Pardon Pete? Rose now
Speaker 11: this just butt, out. Man The house VERSUS ncaa settlement
Speaker 11: is going to get approved any day. Now so my question,
Speaker 11: is why Would saban waste The president's time on some
Speaker 11: sidebar stuff that'll probably end up in a court of
Speaker 11: law again.
Speaker 4: Anyway because he, Can BECAUSE i Think saban in some
Speaker 4: ways fancies himself and is now the conscience of college
Speaker 4: football given the platform he has FROM. Espn and you,
Speaker 4: remember and you talked about this a week or two,
Speaker 4: ago he tried to pressure college football into changing the
Speaker 4: rules so teams couldn't play so quickly at the line
Speaker 4: of scrimmage and that fell. Flat, well what, Happened saban
Speaker 4: changed the way he played his team and they ended
Speaker 4: up being very successful with. It BUT i just think
Speaker 4: he likes being front and. Center he's probably A trump,
Speaker 4: supporter and it's something Else trump can get out there
Speaker 4: in front of and distract people from the destruction that
Speaker 4: he's wreaking. Elsewhere, agreed fifth swig.
Speaker 11: Stay in college football for a. Second Imagine, dick if you,
Speaker 11: will a hotshot quarterback drafted in the first round by The,
Speaker 11: colts and this big man on campus also wore in
Speaker 11: college number. Nineteen so he, Says i'm going to ask
Speaker 11: This united, guy whoever he, is if he'll retire his
Speaker 11: number SO i.
Speaker 3: Can continue my brilliance is number.
Speaker 11: Nineteen, well then you kind of can imagine what went
Speaker 11: Through hall Of Famer Lawrence taylor's mind when The giants
Speaker 11: number one draft punk pick. Pick Abduall carter asked to
Speaker 11: Where taylor's retired number fifty, six not even playing it
Speaker 11: down yet in THE nfl normally balls that big are
Speaker 11: Chasing Indiana. Jones of, Course taylor, said get your own
Speaker 11: number and make it. Famous and the other number he
Speaker 11: wanted the one he wore At Penn state number. Eleven oh, Sorry.
Speaker 11: Charlie Louisville's Phil simms had that one, retired but was
Speaker 11: willing to unretire it Until phil's family thankfully vetoed that.
Speaker 11: Idea But phil's a good guy to, offer just Like
Speaker 11: Joe namath was a good guy to offer up his
Speaker 11: number retired number twelve To Aaron rodgers remember when he
Speaker 11: came to the Jetsah and to his, Credit aaron, declined
Speaker 11: out of respect To Broadway Joe, dick retired numbers should stay, retired, right.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir And Abdull, carter here's the. Deal if you
Speaker 4: want that, number especially In carter's, situation you should have
Speaker 4: to stand from center nose to. Nose maybe not that
Speaker 4: close With Lawrence. Taylor, HEY i want your, number AND
Speaker 4: i want your, blessing AND i want it. Now i'd
Speaker 4: pay to see. That AND i was about to, say
Speaker 4: and please have the cameras, rolling oh, man because his
Speaker 4: head may be rolling down the. Street it's these kids, Today,
Speaker 4: Gary and you got to, WONDER i Hope i've due A.
Speaker 4: Carter knew Who Lawrence taylor. WAS i, mean he was
Speaker 4: only the greatest linebacker in the history of the. Game
Speaker 4: he reinvented the position and made it possible for. GUYS
Speaker 4: i Got Dull carter to play the position the way
Speaker 4: he does and make the money he's about to. Make
Speaker 4: and then they have the nerve to stand in. There
Speaker 4: tell me a Young cincinnati read who's gonna come to
Speaker 4: camp make the team and, say you, KNOW i really love.
Speaker 11: Fourteen, yeah ball's that big or floating in outer, SPACE i.
Speaker 4: Think, yeah you're. Right they've got their own.
Speaker 11: Orbits our sixth and final, SWIG Nbc sports announced they're
Speaker 11: going to use AN ai generated voice a FORMER nba
Speaker 11: narrator and by the, Way West virginia Alum Jim fagan
Speaker 11: for elements of their coverage and their promos when they
Speaker 11: get the association back on the network This. October How
Speaker 11: figan passed away in twenty seventeen had great. PIPES i,
Speaker 11: mean go back on YouTube and look up some of
Speaker 11: the stuff he's.
Speaker 3: Done he's got that.
Speaker 11: Voice well you'll know it when you hear it again
Speaker 11: if you're not familiar with anybody. Listening BUT i have
Speaker 11: to ask, you what kind of a computerized can of
Speaker 11: worms does this open? Up how close are we this
Speaker 11: is not too ridiculous to think about. This how close
Speaker 11: are we to say A Vin SCULLY ai voice not
Speaker 11: just doing, promos but calling a Live dodgers, game or
Speaker 11: even closer to, Home, dick what if you fed video
Speaker 11: into a program and you got AN ai play by
Speaker 11: play From Kwood ledford on the FIVE uk. Game don't
Speaker 11: tell me it couldn't. Happen we got a man on
Speaker 11: the moon several. Times the possibilities are.
Speaker 4: Spooky a man on the, moon if you say. So
Speaker 4: we had a math teacher At trinity who at least
Speaker 4: acted like you didn't believe. It, oh that was all
Speaker 4: done In, arizona you, know you, know and you worked
Speaker 4: In La La land for most of your. Career the artists,
Speaker 4: themselves the, actors the, writers voiceover, artists they are so
Speaker 4: locked in against this as well they should. Be this
Speaker 4: will be. Terrible and as you were talking About Vince,
Speaker 4: scully it made me, UNDERSTAND i guarantee. It there's somebody
Speaker 4: out there right now working on that course of, course
Speaker 4: and they tried to do, that and they use it
Speaker 4: still in some. Cases, similarly, defeed information about ball games
Speaker 4: a new computer and the computer spits out a game.
Speaker 4: Story they've been. TERRIBLE i can only hope this will
Speaker 4: be terrible.
Speaker 11: Too you can always, tell, well, oh you'll never have
Speaker 11: a phone in your, pocket and That Dick tracy on
Speaker 11: that watch that he's talking on the, phone doesn't forget
Speaker 11: that's all cartoon stuff that will never, happen.
Speaker 4: You know what that's for the twenty first. Century, Hello
Speaker 4: Gary moore is Our Western bureau. Chief we'll come back
Speaker 4: with some hot reasons just a minute here on six
Speaker 4: point THIRTY. Wlap welcome. Back we're talking with Our Western bureau,
Speaker 4: Chief Gary. Moore he has presented two guys in a six.
Speaker 4: Pack come for a couple of hot. Rains gary from
Speaker 4: the courtrooms Of. America more. Nonsense there is one hundred
Speaker 4: million dollar lawsuit in play, now brought not By Shador,
Speaker 4: sanders but by a fan who goes By John doe
Speaker 4: says he's a dedicated fan of The Colorado buffaloes suing
Speaker 4: The National Football league on behalf Of Shador, sanders wanting
Speaker 4: a formal acknowledgment from the league regarding emotional distress caused
Speaker 4: by actions and statements About sanders that dropped him in
Speaker 4: the draft of the fifth. Round they want a retraction
Speaker 4: of slanderous statements quote, unquote an apology for any harm.
Speaker 4: Caused it was rep, uh implementation of fair practices in
Speaker 4: the drafting. Process please what does that? Mean and any
Speaker 4: additional remedies keeping the door open that the court deems,
Speaker 4: appropriate including compensatory. Damages my question to you, is what's
Speaker 4: the over and under on how quickly this is. Dismissed
Speaker 4: you think they toss? It did he handback the papers
Speaker 4: with coffee stains on it to the attorneys or do
Speaker 4: they waste the taxpayer's money and spend time talking about this.
Speaker 11: NONSENSE i think taxpayer money is gonna get wasted somewhere
Speaker 11: down the. Line but let me let me get back
Speaker 11: to you with the question of my Own why is
Speaker 11: It John? Doe why Doesn't dion just use his real?
Speaker 11: Name come, on who else could it? Be who else
Speaker 11: could it be to file something stupid like? This whould get?
Speaker 11: Hurt wh would get butt? Hurt over all?
Speaker 4: This that's, fair that's a fair.
Speaker 11: Question oh, YEAH i can't believe. It, well of, COURSE
Speaker 11: i was just gonna, SAY i can't believe a lawyer
Speaker 11: would take this. Case but some of the Lawyers i've
Speaker 11: known over my, life it's not.
Speaker 4: Surprising oh, yeah that's that's Their their fifteen seconds on THE.
Speaker 4: Espn our second odd rate is About Bill, belichick the noted.
Speaker 4: Author he was at a book signing up In New.
Speaker 4: York there was no sign Of Jordan, hudson his twenty
Speaker 4: four year old. GIRLFRIEND i got no problem with the age.
Speaker 4: Difference look good for, you good For that's. Fine if that,
Speaker 4: works go. Ahead BUT i find it really fascinating that
Speaker 4: he has basically benched her when it comes to her
Speaker 4: being sort of a pr go between thanks to THAT
Speaker 4: Cbs Sunday morning. Debacle when everybody who cares about this
Speaker 4: story knows how they met and she jumped In. Gary
Speaker 4: is this the biggest benching For belichick since he Promoted Tom.
Speaker 11: BRADY i think it. Is that's a good that's a good.
Speaker 11: QUESTIONED i have a feeling it may not. Stick something's gonna.
Speaker 11: Happen she seems to be a very forceful force of
Speaker 11: nature in his.
Speaker 4: Life you.
Speaker 11: Know i'm just reminded of That Glenn close line To
Speaker 11: Michael douglas In Fatal. Attraction i'm not gonna be ignored, Here.
Speaker 11: Dan something tells me, that in the back of my,
Speaker 11: mind that's gonna something like that is gonna pop up
Speaker 11: here in their relationship at some. Point i'm and what
Speaker 11: would have Hurt bill to have worn a shirt with
Speaker 11: actual buttons on it when he did that? Interview what
Speaker 11: the hell was?
Speaker 1: That you?
Speaker 4: Know the consolation prize for her is her real estate
Speaker 4: business or whatever it is she's got, going which evidently
Speaker 4: is now worth since she started seeing, him in excess
Speaker 4: of eight million. Dollars. Nice so if she can't come
Speaker 4: along to the book, signing she can sit back and
Speaker 4: balance her checkbook right.
Speaker 3: As he balances her on a.
Speaker 4: Beach, yeah very, well, put very very very, good very.
Speaker 4: Nice uh, WELL i think we've covered. Everything my thanks
Speaker 4: to you for your time as always thank.
Speaker 3: You where are we ON?
Speaker 11: X i'm at nine to five to Five, Gary where
Speaker 11: the hell are?
Speaker 4: You i'm still a Big blue. Insider. One thank, You,
Speaker 4: shart talk to you next. Week you got. It you,
Speaker 4: know WHEN i think back on THE uku OF l football,
Speaker 4: SERIES i was impressed With curry And, schnellenberger as frank
Speaker 4: as they, were when they talked about playing the game
Speaker 4: on the opening weekend when most coaches would love to
Speaker 4: have a marshmallow there so you, can you, know see
Speaker 4: what you've got with your, team you, know figure out
Speaker 4: what's what if you've got any injuries you need to get.
Speaker 4: Through but they specifically talked about the fact that and
Speaker 4: they said it with, respect but they were tired of
Speaker 4: spending the summer hearing people either on the radio or
Speaker 4: talking on television or whatever in the grocery store aisles
Speaker 4: talking ABOUT uk basketball. Recruiting and of, course back then
Speaker 4: both basketballs were doing very, well and, we're you, know nationally,
Speaker 4: iconic and why wouldn't we talk about as talk show,
Speaker 4: hosts as fans, Recruiting because when it came to, football
Speaker 4: there wasn't much to talk. About you, KNOW u OF
Speaker 4: l was going to open with Whoever kentucky was going to,
Speaker 4: open probably all due respect with A mac team or
Speaker 4: somebody they knew they could. Handle but, man when they
Speaker 4: put that game, together all of that changed. Instantly fans
Speaker 4: went at each, other sniping at each other in a
Speaker 4: fun way and in a stupid way. Sometimes but we
Speaker 4: in the hype, business we had so much more energy
Speaker 4: around the opening of college football, season which is WHY
Speaker 4: i loved. It So i'm Glad gary brought it. Up that's,
Speaker 4: it good night from the garage And.
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