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Speaker 1: I'll start to you want to present some off the

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bench with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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yeah yeah, off the bench with Jacob Hester and T

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Speaker 2: I got to come off the pitch.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abart.

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Speaker 2: Yo, what's happening y'all? Welcome in our number two of

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OTV here on this Thanksgiving week. Love to see it, guys.

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Speaker 3: Remember twenty twin May twenty four, Thanksgiving right around the

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corner and LSU off. The snide is they beat Vanderbilt

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twenty four to seventeen on Saturday, get the big dub.

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But it comes on a day in which many of

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your enemies falter.

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Speaker 2: And uh man? Is that not the absolute best right?

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Speaker 3: If I can't be happy, I don't want anyone to

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be happy. And we've had all these two lost teams

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in the SEC, and we've been talking so much about

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out how.

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Speaker 2: Many of them do you get in? How many of

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this or that?

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Speaker 3: Well, now there's a bunch of three lost teams in

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the SEC. After Ole miss falls to Florida, A and

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m falls to Auburn and Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Gets dominated by Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: So I asked you during the break or we asked

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you last segment, Jake, you know what was your favorite one?

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Taylor said, A and M, what about you, what was

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your favorite loss to enjoy from afar like you were

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siffing on a delicious, bitter beverage of your enemy's tears.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you kept it only to the sec for Tata,

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because if you did not, we all know he was

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going to go Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean, but like again, if you're someone

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trying to flex on the Colorado lost, like, yeah, you're

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just so off base. This is still such a massive

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step forward for Colorado.

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Speaker 2: It is. And yeah, no, no, I mean he's a

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certified proprietor. We know this for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean he literally is like one of the best

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players to ever play for his favorite football team and

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he hates him.

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Speaker 2: It's so but it's beyond reproach.

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Speaker 5: But I didn't see said yeah, I know, how about

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that kind of you know, Florida and Kansas, And speaking

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of Florida, I'll probably go the old Miss loss.

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Speaker 4: Was the one that I think I enjoyed the most

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because we like we all know, like behind the scenes,

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we know how much they've put into this roster. We

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know that the donors were like, hey, here it is.

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But if you don't get it done, that's it. That's

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all you're going to get. Now, if you win, that's

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going to create excitement, and you know, obviously you'll get

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things rolling and maybe there will be more there and

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you'll benefit off that run. But right now, it's a

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school that feels like they did everything they possibly could

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to be the team this year. And now you look

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up and you're eight and three, yeah, and nine, and

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is like if nine and three, because I still expect

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them to win the egg balls, Misissippi State's just a

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bad football team. But nine and three, after everything you've

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done this year, I think about it like, you know,

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nine and three around here around a lot of places

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like well and the ultimate.

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Speaker 3: And the kind of ultimate, brutal, cruel, ironic twist for

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all miss What has held them back the last couple

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of years, Remember they would have made a twelve team

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playoff two of the last three years. What held them

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out of a fourteen playoff was their inability to beat

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the big dogs, the Alabamas and Georgia's.

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Speaker 2: This year, you finally did it. You didn't just beat

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Georgia I mean, you dominated.

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Speaker 3: Them, but you lost to a bad Kentucky, You lost

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to a four loss kind of bad Lsue, and now

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you've lost to you know, five loss Florida team. Yeah,

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a five loss Florida team exactly. That's what I'm saying, Like,

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so you finally get over the hump in terms of

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proving that you can hang with the big dogs, but

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you lose focus through other weeks.

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Speaker 2: And this one's gotta hurt the worst.

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Speaker 3: Not just because it's the one that keeps you out

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now and breaks all of your jopes and dreams, but

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it's also if you were playing incredible, you know, like

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everybody's actually old.

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Speaker 2: Moss is the best team in the nation, which you

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Speaker 3: Do you see why get mad when people just tell

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me they know who the best team is, right, like

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anybody knows this year and that again, that's fine, but

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maybe better personally in my opinion, but at a certain point,

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the records have to take over. Cause these team that

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lost this weekend, everybody's been saying got a shadow of

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a doubt that oh, they're definitely better the next They're

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definitely better the next. But once again we have a

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weekend that proves that we don't know what's gonna happen

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when you actually line it up and snap it and

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to at a certain point you have to take opinion

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out of it and rely on objectivity. Because everybody was

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saying that they thought that Old Miss was the best

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in the country, maybe playing the best football in the

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entire and I agreed. I remember, I was adamant, I'll

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give it. I think you Jake, we're on Florida two

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this week, and so was Aaron. We'll give you all

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credit because I was adamant. I thought Old Miss represented

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a way worse matchup for Florida than did LSU. I

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thought that the Florida box score was a little wonky

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last week, and the LSU actually, like you know, with

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the box were like that you normally win that whatever.

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looked locked it. I mean, Ole Miss did definitely leave

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some opportunities on the board. But it's again, I don't

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feel like Olmost blew the game. I feel like Florida

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Speaker 4: I don't want to give myself too much credit. I said,

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this game is gonna play out two ways, said, Florida

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is either going to win it or Old Miss is

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gonna blow him out. Yeah, like, I feel like that

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the plays that they had to make, and they got

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getting the ball back after a review or whatever, and

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Jackson dort Well go craft for a little bit and

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Speaker 2: It was a weird sequence.

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Speaker 3: Like he was in the midst because that drive had

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a lot of early success. It felt like he was

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in the midst of one of those legendary drives that

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a program remembers forever. Right, you're gonna save this game,

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you're gonna escape the swamp, your playoff hopes are gonna

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be left alive, and you're all gonna think back to

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this moment. And then he threw the first pick. Awful

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throat triple coverage. I mean, I don't even know no

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idea what he was thinking. Yeah, he had single coverage

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he had everybody with the coverage on one receiver. Basically

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he had nothing really underneath. And then on the right side,

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a receiver that's made a bunch of plays here down

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the stretch. He never even thought about looking over to

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that is what makes Jackson Dart from a top three

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best quarterback in college football to a guy whos probably

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fifteen sixteen, Yeah, is that play because he can't get

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rid of that play. Now when he's on he's as

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good as anybody. I truly believe that. But when you

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talk to NFL scouts. We have Jim Nagie on our

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show on off campus every single week, and we'll ask

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him about different players, and that's kind of the word

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you get back from Jackson Dart too. It's like teams

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won't fully get themselves over to him because of those players.

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Speaker 3: Well and then so but then almost defense forces the

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three and out, gives you the ball right back with

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great field position, and you throw another pick, but then

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there's a review, turns out the ball barely hit the grounds.

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mean a brutal ending for Jackson Dart, a heartbreaking ending

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for all miss and on the other side of the docket,

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shout out to Billy Napier, Scott Strickland in the entire

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Florida Gators program.

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Speaker 2: Remember Scott Strickland a.

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Speaker 3: Few weeks ago giving Napier the vote compensation he is

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going to be back next year. That weekend, you get

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blown out by the Texas Longhorns, which that win looks

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better now for Texas. You know, as we try to

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figure out how good Texas is or is true, but

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you get dominated by Texas.

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Speaker 2: What do you do next?

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Speaker 3: You come back, you're ruining LSU season and sniff out

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any hopes they had to. Remember, SE's a championship. Ten

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wins is still very much to play for LSU. Florida

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ruined that. And now a second week in a row,

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you've crushed opponent's dreams. You go and beat a very

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good old Missing that everybody was saying was playing the

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best in the entire country, and you did it, playing solid,

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solid football, really good defensively, getting after the quarterback. DJ

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Lagway continues to be fantastic, and now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: A little hope, a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Of light here because you're not going to spend thirty

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million dollars firing your coach. You're going to spend a

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ton of money in this you know, period until June thirtieth.

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I think Florida is actually gonna be probably one of

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the top ten spinders in the entire country.

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Speaker 2: And most importantly, you have a.

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Speaker 3: Five star true freshman quarterback that Jake isn't getting it

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done with his legs right, like getting it done with

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his arms, And so what happened when he gets healthy

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over the course of a year and he gets his

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legs back and he gets older, more experienced and can

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Speaker 2: Better like the ceiling.

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Speaker 3: It's an exciting time when you have a guy like

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Lagway in his first year and you have money to spend,

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like Florida's going to this offseason, and.

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Speaker 4: You have a quarterback in Lagway that is all in

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with Billy Napier as well, Like that was one of

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the things that people talked about, like, hey, he is

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tied in with Billy Napier. Like if you make a move,

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just no, DJ Lagway might also make a move. And

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so like they've got a great relationship there. And like

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last week, I can tell a shoe. He was highly impressive.

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He's got one hamstring and he's out there, doesn't take

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a sack against a good rush and continues to you know,

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deliver the ball on time, on point. He's a really

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good football player. He continues to get better. I thought

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this was another great week for him. And so Florida

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is not quite there yet. They still have some deficiencies

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on their roster. We'll see what the recruiting class can

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end up like. But I think for them too, you

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at receiver and some other positions.

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Speaker 2: For DJ Lagway, what is uh jj pegeese? What are

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Speaker 2: What are you trying to bounce it? Come on now?

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Speaker 3: We doesnet give him the ball too many times? If

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you are not a running back.

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Speaker 2: You are massive.

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Speaker 3: You have to get north and south and just fall

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Speaker 2: Our guy was.

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Speaker 3: Feeling himself entirely too much, trying to bounce that last

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Speaker 4: No, And you're a defensive tackle. You're in there for

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a purpose. The purpose is not to get sweet feet.

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he's just feeling stuff a little too much. The swamp

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this was a really massive win. And then finally Alabama

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Speaker 2: It's not been a good year. The offensive line has

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been horrible.

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Speaker 3: Remember they were injured all hell. It's been the huge

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weakness of this team. And that offensive line just dominated

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the Crimson tide. I know, a defensive line that Lshue

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struggled with mightily. They may look like children. I mean,

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here are the rushing numbers. By the way, you hold

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Alabama just two hundred and thirty four total yards. And

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this is my favorite. So it's funny we all have

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different favorites. But here are the rushing numbers. Alabama ran

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at fifty times excuse me. Alabama ran at thirty times

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for seventy yards. Two point three yards were carried. Oklahoma

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ran at forty nine for two sixty fifty carries, and

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you averaged five yards of pop. How about Jackson Arnold,

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he carried the ball twenty five times, he only threw

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at eleven.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they straight up just said now we're gonna

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run the ball, We're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna shut you down defensively, and they dominated the Crimson

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Tide and they end up winning twenty four to three.

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And it's even with like on the first drive they

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come out and fumble album makes a ton of big plays.

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It looks like Ryan Williams as a touchdown. O, wait,

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his foots out of bound. Then the defense home's a

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field goal. But at that time, it felt like, Okay,

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Alabama's gonna win this game. I would have never fathomed

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that that would be the final time the alabam would

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find the scoreboard for the rest of the night.

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Speaker 4: No in Oklahoma. Now they only get their second SEC win. Yeah,

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I mean, which is wild. They've been in more games,

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but still only the second one. And that was a

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game that I think a lot of it's just assumed

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I know I did, and I'm like, man, I'm looking

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at the matchup. Oklahoma plays hard Brent Vinnables, we know

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kind of his DNA, but they don't have enough juice.

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And not only they have enough juice, they went out

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there and dominated physically that game, and they look they

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had a a great plan for Jalen Milroe. And it

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just continues like for whatever reason, you go back, you

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look at LSU the last couple of years, You've had

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no plan to stop Jalen Milroe. It's like that's, you know,

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been the the thing. Certainly it's cost you in those games.

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And so shout out to Oklahoma that defense. They're gonna

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come in here kind of with the same intensity like that.

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Speaker 2: Got to worry about it. Running quarterback. Ye yeah, Arnold

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ARLs had that. I mean no, I always had success

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with this whole this whole year. Really, you just did

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a great.

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Speaker 4: Job against one again a guy that has over six

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hundredrushing yards in Diego Pavia.

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Speaker 2: You gotta do it again. Brince Simonosa is no talking

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the terrible, terrible call. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it was twenty four to three, and what was

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it like early fourth quarter? I believe it looked like

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Ryan Williams had an incredible touchdown on fourth and three. Uh,

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the rest called legal touching, saying that he was covered up.

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I don't think he actually was covered up, touched on

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off the board turnover on downs. But I want to

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be clear, Okay, is that a bad break? Absolutely? They

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ain't winning that game no matter what. Okay, I'm not

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gonna let a score. I'm not gonna let you off

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the hook blaming the referees on a score that would

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have put you down fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Would have put you down fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Not a lot of time left on a night again

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where you've thrown three picks, have two hundred and thirty

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total yards, and are getting out rushed two fifty to four, Like,

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get out of here, Get out of here. No, No,

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that ain't. It's a bad break, but it ain't the game.

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It ain't the game. Oklahoma just dominated every single phase

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of the game. And QB lead wasn't working this week.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, the old quarterback duo was not getting done.

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I gotta get good in that.

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Speaker 3: Ou offensive line because they've been bad and now this

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Oklahoma game. We'll dive into the next couple of games.

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But yeah, it looks way more fascinating for ill. Let's

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shoot now going to senior day as I don't have

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any idea who wins as I about it and think

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about it on this Monday. All right, coming next, we

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Speaker 1: How quickly will this segment leave the rails. It's off

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the bench with Hester and T Bob.

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Speaker 2: It's going on, y'all.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to ot bay.

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Speaker 3: You can take a lot of tailor hanging out with

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you to Day's the only opsode we haven't talked about yet.

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Text A and M at Auburn. Of course you can

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see in the document there or can you see No,

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I don't think I put it in there. But Mike

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Elko last week asked about Auburn, saying our focus is

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solely on Texas, I mean Auburn. Well, unfortunately the Freudian

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slip came true as Texas A and M looking like

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a team that was indeed focused on Texas and not

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ready for an Auburn team that is not good but

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still has.

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Speaker 2: Very good wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Cam Coleman and Kadrie Lambert Smith have actually been really solid.

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You got the Okay. Here's Mike Elcho last week at

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his press conference.

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Speaker 6: There's already so much talk about November thirtieth, and it

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was announced as a night game today. How do you

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deal with that with your guys and saying, hey, we

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still have something ahead of us at Auburn or is

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that even a big issue with your team?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's an issue.

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Speaker 8: I think when you're in the situation we're in, it's

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easy to focus on the task at hand, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think you know those big games earlier in the year,

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you know, maybe you look ahead. If if we didn't

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have that steak, what's that steak? Maybe you would worry

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about it. I think our focus is single handling on Texas.

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I'm on Auburn right now and locked in on what

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we got to get done. Oh God.

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Speaker 3: People talking about things aging like milk, I mean every

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bit of it, every bit of it. And then again,

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for some reason, text and m fans strike me as

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like huge adult milk drinkers, just.

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Speaker 2: Just casual milk. You're not.

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Speaker 3: They're having like a ham sandwich at lunch, and they asked, like,

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Jimmy John T, do you have any milk.

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Speaker 2: For lunch or a ham? Samid? Did your dad not

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make you drink milk with you? When I was a kid,

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I drank milk every meal, every meal, every.

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Speaker 3: Single meal, I drink milk. And a certain age though,

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you gotta stop drinking the milk.

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Speaker 2: Not you can't drag jack bel No, but like a

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good and cold glass. Yeah, yeah, anything sweet, anything sweet? Yeah,

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I want milk, absolutely be so with spaghetti anymore.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: A and M's type person. Yeah with ever. Yeah, you're

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having a steak at lunch, they want milk. You're like,

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what are you talking about? It does not bad? But yeah,

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A and m uh not focused, not focused, not ready

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for everything to say.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I will give him this credit, so I think

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they did. I'm still a big Marcel Reid fan. I

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still think he's going to be very good. I think

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the touchdown throw he had to make it, he had

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to make it twenty one to fourteen was fantastic. But

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a bigger deal to me, Jake is I'll give both

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teams credit here. Great mental toughness from Texas A and

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M to go down twenty one to zero in Jurdin

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hair and come back and tie that game, because that's

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that's a that's a crazy hill at the climb in

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that stadium. Also great mental tough to a bad Auburn

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team because anytime the other dog jumps out to a

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big lead but then watches it dissipate, they normally just

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completely crumble, right, and so good on Auburn to want

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it becomes twenty one twenty one, basically saying okay, game

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on and then finding a way to go score the

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tud find a way to tie it up with the

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with the great drive by Peyton Thorn, the fourth and

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two scramble at the end to push it into ot

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and then obviously finishing in the fight. So I was

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a bit impressed with both teams in that way. But

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uh my god, you want to talk about just a

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brutal disappointment for Texas A and M, who, as Taylor said,

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once again, seems faded to be Texas eight and four

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unless they can be Texas' tific focused and maybe But

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I like, I'll say this, not that this matters at all.

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I do think that the eight and four is a

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better eight and four this year, But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean every you know, you know that goes no.

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Speaker 3: I think I think there can be I can I

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think the results can be the same, but it could

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be better. But then again, I think the Nebraska But basically.

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Speaker 4: I think the expectations changes too, like depending on what

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it is. Like I'll look at South Carolina a couple

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of years ago, whenever they beat Clemson and Tennessee to

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finish the season, like whatever their final record was that year. Yeah,

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that's different because of how you finish and who you

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beat at the end of the year. But A and

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M's expectation was much greater than South Carolina's at that time.

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Speaker 2: It's just like with LSU, uh, you know, eight and four.

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Let's say let's say you went.

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Speaker 4: Eight and four and you beat Old Miss, you beat Bama,

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and you would have won the opener against USC. Do

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you think that would have changed anybody's feeling about being

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eight and four in Baton Rouge. That's not rhetorical. I'm

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asking if you what if you beat USA, you beat USC,

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you beat Bama, you you you know, you beat Old Miss,

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like and those are three of your wins.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you lost to oh yeah, be insane whoever

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is for me Caroline there? Yeah, I mean what I'm.

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Speaker 4: Saying like that, Like it doesn't matter who you beat

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and how you got there. I think at places like LSU,

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like A and M, like some of these schools that

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have more expectation.

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Speaker 2: Now A and M hadn't won anything since Jesus.

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Speaker 4: Was a boy, but still like they have that expectation

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to go play for championships, and so we might think

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from the outside looking in, it's not bad, but like within,

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you know their their you know their fans and their

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administration and people that care about that program.

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Speaker 2: You lose this game three and four, I don't think

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they care how they got there. Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: And well it is crazy too because after the LSU game,

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it kind of reminds you of LSU after the Arkansas

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game where A and M, to your point, Jake was

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riding very high. It felt like the world was their

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oyster and it's kind of all falled apart. South Carolina

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had a similar rhythm to this, only South Carolina pulled

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it away in the end where they got out to

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big lead. Marcel Rena and him found a way to

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come back, and at the time during the games, I'm like,

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that's very impressive, dude, like the momentums on their side,

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and then it just it just stopped. The team's just

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not A and M's just not consistent enough right now.

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And again Auburn is not any good, but cam Coleman

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is really freaking good and Caldar Lambert Smith is really good.

476
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And the new overtime rules suck and they just basically

477
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,359
make it a coin flip once you get past the

478
00:23:09,839 --> 00:23:10,680
so stupid the.

479
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: Second ot that dropped from Daniels.

480
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: So if you missed it, the the A and M players,

481
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,839
a well designed play, was a great play, work perfectly

482
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,880
and the receiver just dropped it. And that's gonna stick

483
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,200
with him forever. What a brutal, brutal beat.

484
00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 4: Like the fact that that's how we're ending. And I know,

485
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,000
I know why they did it. The LSU seven overtime game.

486
00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:32,599
Speaker 2: We get all that.

487
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,079
Speaker 4: I guess it is kind of poetic that A and

488
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,799
M now because of that game they won, they lose

489
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because the new overtime rules.

490
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Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, It's gotta be something better. No,

491
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,480
I mean, well, okay, so I talked about at least

492
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,680
to play from like the tin one play from the

493
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ten or something. So here's my deal on it is.

494
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Speaker 3: Okay, I get when people complained about p k's in

495
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,000
soccer because it's kind of not representative.

496
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Speaker 2: Of the game. What guy you there?

497
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 3: At least it's not one well say, and like, I

498
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,720
get why maybe penalty shootouts even though shout outsideko great

499
00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:06,000
dub Friday night in the in the shootout.

500
00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: But I think college football had it right.

501
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,799
Speaker 3: They had the best of both worlds where they had

502
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,839
a sort of gimmicky all in set up that created

503
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,759
the ability to win the game and sort of go

504
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,720
ahead and end it and and have fun while doing

505
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:28,519
to create high leverage moments, but it also had enough

506
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:32,319
actual football left in there, right when you're starting from

507
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,039
the twenty five and and and then yeah, you want

508
00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:39,160
to have be forced to go for two And you say, well,

509
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,880
how's that different, Well, because you had to earn the

510
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,279
chance for that two point conversion, So even the force

511
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:44,759
to go over two makes a lot of sense. Right,

512
00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:46,559
Let's let's try to kind of put our thumb on

513
00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:51,799
the scale in this game. Uh, you've crossed the threshold

514
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,720
into being two gimmicky two underrepresentative of the game when

515
00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,559
you're just dueling two point conversions. I mean, it's a sighting,

516
00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:04,839
but it's not it's it's not a super satisfying way

517
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,279
for a for a winner to be declared in my opinion, Yeah.

518
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Speaker 2: It's just right. You didn't have to change it because

519
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:13,880
of one outlier game.

520
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Speaker 4: It's not addictive of of the rest of the game

521
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,599
leading into that. I think about how much you know

522
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,440
went into that game to get to that point and

523
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,880
the comeback and then you know Auburn finds away a

524
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,960
couple of different times, and then we're going to decide

525
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,240
that based off of two point conversion, and you know

526
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,680
that's going to give some teams advantages. And I know

527
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,559
we don't get there often, but like think about, like

528
00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:37,599
if if you're a team like hey, we are a

529
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,119
running football team and we're coming downhill.

530
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: That that that doesn't bode well for you.

531
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,839
Speaker 4: There's teams in there's situations that two point conversions are

532
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,319
something they can thrive, Like LSU did not play well

533
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:49,799
in a two point conversion situation.

534
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: That is not how they're set up.

535
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen that kind of play out. That's

536
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,440
not how they're set up that. Hell, I'd rather them

537
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,880
be Seriously, I'd rather than be like on the ten

538
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:03,880
than the two. But that's how we're going to decide,

539
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,400
like a massive, massive game with playoff implications.

540
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I don't love it. So in

541
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,880
the end, the pretty fun night at Jurdan Hair. Uh

542
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,160
did they rush the field too? Yeah? Oh man? Are

543
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,359
you all starting to feel? No? I mean I've always

544
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:29,920
because I've heard, I've already I've heard so many times.

545
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,279
Speaker 4: This weekend looks like Denim Springs High schools out there

546
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:35,799
today like that shut up?

547
00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: No, I just know, and I've heard I heard from

548
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,680
like seventy three people, and I just hunt who cares?

549
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,440
Who cares? Who cares? It's it's just it's just too much,

550
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:48,279
just too much the.

551
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: Whyt's and little if you're ever defending yourself with what Clemson.

552
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: Does, No, I'm just saying, do it every game? Like

553
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:04,240
why those it sucks? Well, I do agree with Tayte.

554
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: It becomes a problem when it's screwed up the game

555
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,119
like Airzonna say, rush the field with one second of

556
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,720
What if the game got rushed with thirty seconds left?

557
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,559
Speaker 8: I don't, I don't remember, but like it was in

558
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,200
a state like if y'all, if you'll, if y'all sit

559
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,799
down and watch the referees sitting there looking in the

560
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:22,880
replay monitor trying to figure out how to add and

561
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,279
there are fans with camera phones like right in the

562
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:27,680
dude's face, like come on, guys, like I get it,

563
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,880
you're excited, but like you're also not on the team, Like.

564
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: Just just just move.

565
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: I understand all of the dynamics that play, all the vibes.

566
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:38,359
I understand how every team that rushed the field. I

567
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,319
understand how everyone got there. I really do.

568
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,599
Speaker 2: I'm not even like being a champion for it. I

569
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,400
really just literally don't care what I'm saying.

570
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,559
Speaker 3: I feel like this this was it was Oklahoma that

571
00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:52,240
rushed like thirty seconds left. Yeah, I mean this this

572
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:54,279
is the time where it kind of it did cross

573
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,720
some sort of thresholder in my mind.

574
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: And not possibly impact the game. Yeah. Now, I'm like

575
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,920
principal inner where it's like, have I changed? Am I

576
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,400
off out of touch? No, they're out of there, They're wrong,

577
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,240
They've changed.

578
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,559
Speaker 3: I do think like I think we got a little

579
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:12,640
bit of main character syndrome going on here.

580
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: You know, I'll be old here. I don't like it.

581
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:20,640
It was und which one were we watching at Don

582
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:26,119
Juan where they rushed the field Because we were.

583
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: Channing every time it looked like A and M was

584
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,240
gonna win, the bar started channing no hose for Hugh,

585
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,039
and then every time it looked like Auburn was gonna win,

586
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:39,599
they started chanting hose for you. So congratulations, congratulation to

587
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,559
Hugh in his accumulation of host not that.

588
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: Anything was stopping him before. But yeah, I was like,

589
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,559
why are we you just it took you three overtimes

590
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,839
or how many were it four? Come on? Man, But

591
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:54,599
I mean, look for the high emotion of the game,

592
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Like again, it leads. I understand the context, I understand why,

593
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,880
but if Everyboddy rushes the field and nobody then it's not.

594
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 8: We used to see it maybe every two or three years,

595
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,160
and maybe we see it every week now. But like

596
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,759
with Arizona State, they were a three point favorite in

597
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:11,200
this game.

598
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,599
Speaker 3: Well but you again, but again see that the thing

599
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:20,000
do not. I still don't criticize the kind of settings,

600
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,400
the circumstances of LEDs because like to Jake's point, like,

601
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,000
I mean, yeah, Arizona State's been god awful forever. And

602
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,759
this is basically a playoff elimination game, and it's a

603
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:30,440
game where they were out to a big league, looked

604
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,119
like they were in firm control, and then they damn

605
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,960
near lost it at the end. Right, So they had

606
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,000
this emotional rollercoaster of a day. They finally survived. It's

607
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,960
the first big.

608
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,119
Speaker 2: Home win in years and years.

609
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,319
Speaker 3: I mean, hell, they're probably the most justified one of

610
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,839
the of the bunch, but it's just yeah, I think

611
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:51,599
I'm just old, and I think a lot of it

612
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,519
as kids just wanted to do it for social media.

613
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: What do you that kills? What do you do in

614
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,960
the Arizona State situation? Because like it took him almost

615
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,559
twenty minutes to get a off the field.

616
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Speaker 3: I don't know what you do in any situation because

617
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,599
if thousands of people want to do something, you can't.

618
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Speaker 2: Sup.

619
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 8: Oh, if i'm the ref, I'm spotting the ball and

620
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,920
be like thirty five second play clock, you don't have

621
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,160
the fans off the field, stay a game.

622
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,279
Speaker 2: But we're just going to continue to.

623
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: Do this until you get all the b yu get

624
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,039
delative game all the day, down to like the one

625
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:20,000
yard line, the one player, one to go score and

626
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:20,599
win the game.

627
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,559
Speaker 2: Love it. I was.

628
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,359
Speaker 8: I was pulling for BYU so hard at the end

629
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:25,000
of that game, though, I'm like, I want them to

630
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,440
win now.

631
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Because he's stupid a b YU fan. But go into

632
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:29,839
the game. I want to.

633
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: Speaking of milk drinkers now, Mormon, uh camp Scattabo is awesome,

634
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,599
though he's excellent speaking of milk drinkers.

635
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,279
Speaker 2: And look, that game basically played out like we thought. Man.

636
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,279
Speaker 3: You know, BYU is very solid, so's Arizona State. But

637
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:53,319
BYU doesn't have someone like Tyson and Scatterbow and and

638
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:55,680
I think Sam Levit's just a bit better right now

639
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,839
than rets Off is.

640
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,759
Speaker 2: So shout out, shout out to Arizona State. Massive win

641
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,039
over the weekend. All right, they got a real chance,

642
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:08,079
by the way, I'm just I mean, what like winning

643
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:09,720
the Big Twelve. We're winning a playoff, winning the Big

644
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,680
Twelve and winning a playoff game, winning it all?

645
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:16,839
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, when we get back more off

646
00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:21,400
the bench, Off the bench, go.

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got to main event.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the ninth ranked morning sports show in America.

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Off the Bench.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, what y'all? Welter back to OTB.

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Speaker 3: We got a brand new ap Top twenty five Oregon,

669
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:59,519
Ahia State, Texas, penn State, and Notre Dame round out

670
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:04,640
of the top five. Before You're getting a joj at Tennessee, Miami,

671
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:12,960
SMU and Indiana coming in at number ten. I'm very

672
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,440
excited because of nothing else. Now we will finally get

673
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,000
to be able to put my Indiana theory to the test,

674
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,559
because I think Indiana is a damn good football team.

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Speaker 2: You know.

676
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,799
Speaker 4: So you're like Danny Canell and think it was two plays,

677
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,640
two plays in that game that go a different way

678
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,240
and they're in it.

679
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,559
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think in a rematch of them,

680
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,359
in a rematch of them in Ohio State, I don't

681
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,960
think that. I don't see the angle or Indiana wins right.

682
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,079
Look at what the Ohio State pass rushed it to him.

683
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,599
I was very impressed with of how Indiana ran the ball.

684
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:44,720
I was very impressed with their defense at times. Now

685
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,640
in a game like that, when you're trying to punch up,

686
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,440
of course, if you have those two like it should

687
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,960
have been seven and seven and a half, or at

688
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:53,480
least make Ohio State earn it.

689
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,839
Speaker 2: With like a touchdown before half.

690
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,839
Speaker 3: They got to drive the length of the field right,

691
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,319
like probably should have been seven to seven. You give

692
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,680
a punt return touchdown. Not that that's actually I think

693
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,480
that's more of like a credit to Ohio States.

694
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,519
Speaker 2: That's one of those things that drives me crazy.

695
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 4: Is like when somebody's say and you didn't say you

696
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:13,960
just I mean both, like Danny this morning, like they

697
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,000
gave up a punt touchdown, Like, hey, I know you're

698
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,760
a quarterback and you weren't in these meetings, But it's

699
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,800
a phase of the game. Special teams is a phase

700
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,039
of the game. It's a part of the game flow.

701
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:27,559
It's a part of what you can get done. It

702
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,039
bothers me so much when everybody, well, if you didn't

703
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,519
give up the punt return, it's a part of the game.

704
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:35,039
It's just like giving up a sixty five yard post round.

705
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,719
It's just like sack fumble ball going the other way.

706
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,239
It's like it's it's look, Boise State gave up a

707
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,559
kick and a punt to Oregon earlier that I think.

708
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,159
Speaker 3: I think, like the thing is, it's because those touchdowns

709
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,599
don't happen is often and so part of the game. No,

710
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:49,880
I'm not saying it's not a part of the game,

711
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,599
but when that happens and you're the team trying to

712
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:55,360
create an upset, you are never going to win. Like

713
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,519
bottom line, Ohio State beats you right there, but they

714
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:02,280
were also just a better team. Uh, but I don't understand.

715
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,440
But still I think Indiana look pretty solid from what

716
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:09,000
said game. I just don't understand this idea of like,

717
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,920
so Indiana's lost to Ohio State is like worse than

718
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Notre Dame's lost to Northern Illinois. But both them just

719
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,960
have beaten bad teams, but they beat them badly, right,

720
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,679
which you should get credit for to continue to beat

721
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,719
like teams that are below you, that that thing chosly

722
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,599
beating them a wide margin. But it's like, so they

723
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:34,760
lose to Ohio State and all of a sudden they suck.

724
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:38,239
But all these set teams that you would have told

725
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,320
me were a million times better than just lost to

726
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:43,679
like five hundred teams over the weekend. But that's okay

727
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,119
because the SEC is the SC and they're just the best.

728
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,079
Like I don't know, man, I know the SEC is

729
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:52,119
the best conference. I definitely understand that. But this idea

730
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:54,920
of we just know who's best because of recruiting rankings

731
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,079
and everything. I just at a certain point you got

732
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,119
to let some of the records take over. And I

733
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:04,880
cannot wait to see the stumping for which three loss

734
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480
SEC team's gonna get in, right, because somebody.

735
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:08,119
Speaker 2: Will North Carolina.

736
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,639
Speaker 3: I mean that would be the best, that would be

737
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,599
that would be the most acceptable one to me. They're

738
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,599
playing the best football, they're training in the right direction.

739
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,840
Their losses came earlier in the year. They'd have a

740
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,000
recent win over a very good Clipson team, there'd be

741
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,360
a T twelve win right there, Like, yeah, I think

742
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,559
they easily have the most. But trust me, there's gonna

743
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:27,840
be that Alabama push coming. They ain't dead yet. But

744
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,679
it just continues to crack me up.

745
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,639
Speaker 2: How all SEC losses are good losses because they come

746
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:35,880
to the SEC. Well, why do we even have the

747
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,599
other conferences?

748
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: Then?

749
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,119
Speaker 2: If it's the only conference that matters? Why why? Why

750
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,000
why do we even have the the conference? Then?

751
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:45,199
Speaker 3: If you can't lose a game in another conference and

752
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,159
have it be a good loss, even when it comes

753
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,519
to an Ohio State team that looks like they probably separated,

754
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,480
like they're probably one of four teams that you feel

755
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,440
like or what you would call like a national championship contender,

756
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:00,559
a favorite, like when Will Howard plays like that, it's

757
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:04,159
going to be very hard to beat Ohio State.

758
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 4: So I'm with the on Ohio State and you know,

759
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,280
they've actually played a couple of teams with a pulse.

760
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Speaker 2: They've played Oregon, they've played.

761
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,159
Speaker 4: Penn State, they've played Indiana, and you know, the scheduling

762
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,920
with now these massive conferences is so imbalanced that it's

763
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,599
hard to kind of even within the same conference kind

764
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,039
of have the same argument about different teams.

765
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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people are hating.

766
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 4: Right now on Oregon and Ohio State because there's a

767
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,559
lot of people throwing shade at the SEC for Cupcake

768
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:32,480
Week that we just had and Oregon Ohio State, neither

769
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,239
one of them played a P four team in the

770
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,880
non conference, neither one of them Lague one, and so like, well,

771
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:40,760
like you can't call that out if you're not going

772
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,559
to call this out. Like Oregon played a good Boise

773
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:46,519
State team, I get that, but they did not play

774
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:47,400
a power for team.

775
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,079
Speaker 2: Same thing for Ohio State.

776
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: And then you look at you know, Georgia played Clemson,

777
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,400
Tennessee played in C State, LSU played USC.

778
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,599
Speaker 2: I'm not saying all those teams are good.

779
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:57,199
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that's what's going to get pointed out

780
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,719
and kind of the going back and forth. I'm not

781
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,599
looking four to it either, because it's going to be

782
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,239
nauseating just hearing the takes and the way they try

783
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,239
to find a path for a lot of different teams,

784
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,519
not only in the SEC, I think probably in the

785
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:12,880
Big ten as well. While they just handwave teams like

786
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,719
an SMU, like Arizona State that we've talked about, I mean,

787
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,079
some of these teams in the Big twelve and the

788
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:20,000
ACC aren't even going to be a part of the

789
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,159
conversation while they're talking about three lost teams from one conference.

790
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: Even SMU is weird though, And I understand that they'll

791
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,079
get in because its an autobid, so it's different, but

792
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:31,679
like I feel like they have more respect than in

793
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:34,960
Indiana does. And SMU's played the easiest Power Force schedule

794
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,920
in the country.

795
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 4: It was easiest, It was easiest before the season, and

796
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,480
some of those metrics have changed a bit.

797
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 2: Which where what was it? Louisville? Is that there? Who

798
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,679
is SMU beat? That's good? Duke?

799
00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:51,599
Speaker 4: Duke's at three? Yeah, they beat Duke on the road.

800
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,079
They beat Louisville on the road. They beat TCU sixty

801
00:38:55,119 --> 00:39:00,000
six to forty two. Trying to think about other wins

802
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:03,599
they have on their resume, I know they beat I

803
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:05,760
mean UV eight didn't me anything on the road last week.

804
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,480
Uh Pitt at the time was a big win for them.

805
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I guess I'm

806
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,679
just I just I don't know. Whatever doesn't matter.

807
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: I don't need, I don't need to be upset about

808
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,760
the Indian disspect because they'll get in now and they'll

809
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,079
play one of these two lost SEC teams and we'll

810
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,880
see what the what the measure of them really is.

811
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:26,159
I do think Ohio State separated from a pack uh

812
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,960
a bit personally. But if you had to choose four,

813
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:33,280
oh shoot, we gotta go to break, So maybe think

814
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,400
about this during the break.

815
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: Like who are you?

816
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:39,159
Speaker 3: Who are your national championship contenders? Do you think anybody's

817
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:41,519
separated from the pack. We'll talk about it next here

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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the best morning sports this show around

844
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,039
Off the Bench with Hester and t Bob.

845
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 4: H Right, Welcome back heat OTV. Here on one of

846
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,199
four five ESPN baton rouge Tea. Bob asked a question

847
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,639
about maybe the four best teams. I believe, as we

848
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,880
sit here and have one more week left in the

849
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,920
regular season, I think that we all can agree that

850
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,039
Oregon and Ohio State have firmly put themselves in the

851
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:32,039
top spots, right, I mean, as he might have any

852
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,239
objection to those two teams.

853
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,559
Speaker 2: No, I mean that should be the first two teams.

854
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,840
I think anyone would mention.

855
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, they're not going to both get top four

856
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,239
seeds because they play in the same conference, and you know,

857
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,960
depending on how the conference championship game goes, can Ohio

858
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,800
State get the revenge on Oregon. That's going to be

859
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,320
a hell of a five seed somewhere in the College

860
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,280
Football Playoff. And then you've got teams three through six

861
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,920
in the AP top twenty five. You've got Texas, Pinceed

862
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,280
Notre Dame in Georgia. I think it's wild that that's

863
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,599
kind of where the debate starts as you get right

864
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:09,199
into it. Three four, five, six, it's like, Okay, well,

865
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:12,239
do you really trust any of those teams and and

866
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,880
kind of what they can do.

867
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: Can they take over a playoff and can they go

868
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,960
win it? No? I think I.

869
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 3: Think that in terms of the teams that I think

870
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,320
I think there's a lot of playoff caliber teams in

871
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,880
terms of teams that I feel are national championship good.

872
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: Oregon will be one of them.

873
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: Ohio State absolutely one of them. I'm tempted to maybe

874
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,880
even say in Ohio State first because that game was

875
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,159
in Austin and they played it so well. But like

876
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,159
I understand, if you're like you're a new that's ahead

877
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:43,239
to head, that's fine. But I've just was so impressed

878
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,280
with Will Howard over the weekend also in that Oregon game,

879
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,639
will have I mean, We'll Howard's been really good all

880
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,280
year long. To be fair, I think I think those

881
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,639
two teams, I think Texas still has the potential, right,

882
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,559
I mean, we need to see them against a very

883
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:00,400
good team. We'll see them against A and not a

884
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,199
very good team, but we'll see them against A and M.

885
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,159
And then we'll see them if they win that against

886
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:06,480
Georgia in the ST Championship, and that will tell us

887
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,159
a lot, because again Texas hasn't played a lot of people,

888
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:14,480
but they've generally beaten the hell out of who they

889
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:17,679
have played. But then they, like Indiana, did fail their

890
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,519
kind of one big test, only this one was at home.

891
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,800
Which is even worse for them, So could they exact

892
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,840
some sort of revenge in se championship? For me, the

893
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,320
tough one are the Georgia Bulldogs. Is Georgia good enough

894
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,199
to win a national championship this year? Because part of

895
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,639
me says yes. I think their schedule is also so

896
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,960
tough that they're they're going to be the most battle tested,

897
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,320
which will pay dividends for them. But they do have

898
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,920
these low moments this season that have cropped up where

899
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:51,559
you expect, like whether it's a Kentucky game play, like

900
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,599
you keep expecting them to pull out of it and

901
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,079
they're like, oh wait no. Some days this year Georgia

902
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:59,920
just isn't that good. So I don't know consistency why

903
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:03,639
maybe feels like a high state Oregon Texas and then

904
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:05,599
and then, and if I was gonna throw four team in,

905
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:08,599
it would be Georgia. Everybody else is really good, but

906
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:10,880
I think everybody else could, like I would not consider

907
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,719
them to be national championship good or national championship favorites.

908
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: You know.

909
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,639
Speaker 4: The thing that I can't like get out of my

910
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:20,719
mind is just like when you get in a playoff situation,

911
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,920
just like in the NFL it's like the head coach

912
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,679
matters even more so, like Kirby getting his ready, his

913
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,400
team ready for the playoff is fascinating to me because

914
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,880
you know, they've been there, they've done that, they've won

915
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,159
those national championships, and how much you know, how much

916
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,079
is that going to you know, kind of change the scales,

917
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:40,480
flip the scales. Uh, if you go against the head coach,

918
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,320
it's just never been there before. So there's a couple

919
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,159
of different dynamics. But it is while we're sitting here,

920
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:46,880
like there's two teams that we trust, and there's a

921
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,079
handful of teams that we think maybe sort of kind

922
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:50,639
of can find their way.

923
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:52,519
Speaker 2: I mean, even once we get past Georgia, it's.

924
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: Like it's Tennessee, Miami, SMU, Indiana, Boise State, and Clemson.

925
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:57,639
Speaker 2: No. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I think all

926
00:44:57,679 --> 00:44:59,440
those teams can beat each other, right.

927
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:03,159
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any clear favorite amongst that crew,

928
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,840
which that's why the opening rounds are told to play

929
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,719
are gonna be so much fun.

930
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,679
Speaker 4: If Clemson goes out and they house a good South

931
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:12,840
Carolina football team, where do you.

932
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 2: What do you do with them? They get two bitch potentially. Yeah. Yeah,

933
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:19,159
and that point because the way is being cleared with

934
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,119
multiple losses and some of these other.

935
00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 4: One of Miami and SMU, if they continue to win,

936
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,679
they still would have a loss in the ACC Championship game.

937
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that team loses probably out of it. Yeah,

938
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,079
so Clemson could Clemson could definitely sneak in here, dab

939
00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:36,119
own company right when you counted them for dead. Uh,

940
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:37,800
we'll see coming.

941
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: Up in our three of O TV, I want to

942
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:41,920
switch over to the NFL. We're gonna do a weekend winners.

943
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,199
We got a ta NFL Story of the Day day.

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