Speaker 1: Bassis dropping Soccer's morning show. Welcome to DH for another week, John,
Speaker 1: hear you there, And it is that week in the
Speaker 1: two week period when it comes to Major League Soccer
Speaker 1: where you hit the windows and it is it is entry,
Speaker 1: it's re entry, it's waivers, it's the half day trade
Speaker 1: deadline show that we kind of have and we drift
Speaker 1: in and out and we let you know those kinds
Speaker 1: of things. So we're kind of getting into that particular
Speaker 1: part of the season. We've also got an MLS Cup Final.
Speaker 1: We've also got some news related to the MLS Cup
Speaker 1: Final involving a player in particular and frankly, the stunning
Speaker 1: work that this particular person did outside of normal behavior.
Speaker 1: Morning Abbey, Happy Cyber Monday. That'll be a part of
Speaker 1: Opening Kickoff. By the way, Opening Kickoff probably has like
Speaker 1: two or three separate things, so traditional Monday. I know
Speaker 1: that Bart's going to be joining us an hour number
Speaker 1: two because we've got to talk about the women's national
Speaker 1: team and what happened with the matchup against England, and
Speaker 1: it would give Bart a chance to continue discussing the
Speaker 1: perpetual virtues of Naomi Gheirma. It was Emma Hayes coming
Speaker 1: home in front of eleven gazillion people in attendance for
Speaker 1: this particular match, Veigman versus Hayes. We'll get into that
Speaker 1: an hour number two with Bart, and I know that
Speaker 1: Bart also wants to talk about his beloved West by God, Virginia,
Speaker 1: where apparently Neil Brown is out at six and six
Speaker 1: in the American football side of thing. So Bart has
Speaker 1: apparently a rant having to do with West Virginia football.
Speaker 1: And you know, we are not above crossing the streams
Speaker 1: here on the Morning Show because it is that rivalry
Speaker 1: time in college football, and it also gives us a
Speaker 1: chance to plug the college football shows that we have
Speaker 1: over at OSG Sports where the review is now up
Speaker 1: and running, where we actually had a rather large class
Speaker 1: last time out. So it was myself, Marty's Rinco based
Speaker 1: in Dallas, John Fox, who is on the road chasing
Speaker 1: after one of his favorite jam bands, and I think
Speaker 1: he was in Westchester, New York in a hotel room,
Speaker 1: and it's Phil Canter and John Wilkerson. So the five
Speaker 1: of us were there, taped it and released it yesterday
Speaker 1: very early this morning. So set your notifications for that,
Speaker 1: John Wilkerson and I have the review coming up in
Speaker 1: the midweek. We're going to be joined by the play
Speaker 1: by play voice of Arizona State Football American Football. As
Speaker 1: a part of our discussion there, we'll go over the
Speaker 1: week that was, get you ready for the championship games,
Speaker 1: football on a budget, all that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 1: that's your plug for the college football side over at
Speaker 1: OSG Sports. So a morning four card, and we've got
Speaker 1: a lot of things to get into overseas, might be
Speaker 1: today and tomorrow, depending on where we are. There's some
Speaker 1: fun stuff involving the FA Cup and moments that is
Speaker 1: kind of kickoffish that we might hold well. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we've got you know, we have a lot of things
Speaker 1: to get into from a lot of different places, and
Speaker 1: that's kind of where we are. We got the college
Speaker 1: game to get into this week. We are tracking down
Speaker 1: and we can do this because they continue winning. The
Speaker 1: SDH Bump does in fact live later this afternoon on tape,
Speaker 1: we're going to catch up with Sue Patburg. Sue Patburg,
Speaker 1: the head coach at Emery. Emery is in the final four.
Speaker 1: They're hitting the Las Vegas and Division three Big one
Speaker 1: for Clayton State on the men's side, they knocked off
Speaker 1: Limestone in overtime and they continue on in the Division
Speaker 1: two men's championship. They're going to be facing Lynn Lynn
Speaker 1: University out of Florida next weekend. So we're efforting Clayton State.
Speaker 1: We are efforting the physical property of a completed interview
Speaker 1: with our friends at Emory and Columbus State. The Cougars
Speaker 1: won yesterday on the women's side in Division two and
Speaker 1: they await their opponent coming up next weekend. They knocked
Speaker 1: out the University of North Georgia. So Columbus States women
Speaker 1: continue to win a Division two, Clayton State's men continue
Speaker 1: to win in Division two, Emery's women continue to win
Speaker 1: in Division three. And so we're going to continue to
Speaker 1: chase down those guests and those coaches as we go
Speaker 1: see if we can get some of them live this
Speaker 1: week because of the space that we have in the
Speaker 1: morning show that we have. So it's a couple of
Speaker 1: different a couple of different things there, and we also
Speaker 1: want to catch up over time here in December with
Speaker 1: our friends in western North Carolina. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw Scott Wells post from his account attached to
Speaker 1: Gardner Webb's soccer program. But I want to catch up
Speaker 1: with all of them and find out how they are
Speaker 1: and what do they need. Do they need anything? Are
Speaker 1: they okay? What do they need from us? How did
Speaker 1: their seasons go, what was it like, what did they learn?
Speaker 1: That kind of stuff. So we'll catch up with our
Speaker 1: friends in western North Carolina as well and find out
Speaker 1: how they are and find out what they're up to.
Speaker 1: So busy times, Like I said, we have the MLS
Speaker 1: deadlines and the intrigue of the end of the season
Speaker 1: MLS Cups coming up this weekend. It's Red Bulls and
Speaker 1: it is lag we'll talk about that, a couple of
Speaker 1: different things that we have going on this morning, so
Speaker 1: plenty to talk about. Whatever's on your mind from the weekend.
Speaker 1: How do I think? That's what the folks at Texas
Speaker 1: Aying and at the Texas A and M say. Morning og.
Speaker 1: So it's good to have all of you here with
Speaker 1: us this morning. All right, Opening Kickoff. Let's see which
Speaker 1: version of opening actually tell you what? Yeah, let's do
Speaker 1: the short version because there's some other things we'll get into. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Abby mentions, happy Cyber Monday. How much of your shopping
Speaker 1: after today? And you know that the people and businesses
Speaker 1: will continue to tease even after today. Hey, Cyber Monday
Speaker 1: still going on. We still have some time. You still
Speaker 1: have some time left up until midnight you know tomorrow
Speaker 1: or Wednesday, after Cyber Monday. How much of your shopping
Speaker 1: is done? I am a twelve month a year shopper.
Speaker 1: So I'm a really bad example as to how much
Speaker 1: of my shopping is done. It's kind of done in
Speaker 1: fits and starts and stages. Admittedly, I still have half,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe half of maybe half of my shopping done.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that's about right. So how much of your
Speaker 1: shopping is done at this point? How much of your
Speaker 1: shopping is done, completed? Done? And then after today, how
Speaker 1: much of your shopping is done? How much of your
Speaker 1: shopping do you get done on Cyber Monday, and how
Speaker 1: much of it was already done heading into today. That's
Speaker 1: the larger question that I have is you know, if
Speaker 1: I am someone that shops consistently through the year. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know if I'm a good gauge
Speaker 1: for letting me know, then letting everybody else know how
Speaker 1: much shopping I've done, because then and I'm, of course,
Speaker 1: and I'm also an impulse shopper, where, in addition to
Speaker 1: shopping year round, if I see a bargain and I
Speaker 1: know that something's gonna fit for somebody, then I'll do that. Rich,
Speaker 1: We'll put a bookmark in that for hour number one,
Speaker 1: because that's sports business. So our intrepid producer from Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: Rich Ransom So from the Pennsylvania Precinct reporting end this morning.
Speaker 1: Good morning rich So, like I said, I'm probably a
Speaker 1: bad example, but I wanted to ask and see if
Speaker 1: being a bad example, if I was on par with
Speaker 1: everybody else, or if I'm behind, or if I'm ahead
Speaker 1: or all these kinds of things. Morning Pars. So that
Speaker 1: was that's my biggest question this morning as we roll
Speaker 1: through here cyber Monday. How much shopping do you get
Speaker 1: done today? Are you done after today? Outside of the
Speaker 1: like the impulse oh, I think that person will like this,
Speaker 1: like the heavyweight shopping that you're locked into your gifts,
Speaker 1: you're locked into your guests, you know what's going on.
Speaker 1: How much is done after today? And then and like
Speaker 1: I said, outside of the whole notion of ooh, I
Speaker 1: like in the shiny object shopping, the impulse shopping that
Speaker 1: we do, of the hardcore list of shopping and gifts
Speaker 1: and people, after cyber Monday, how much of your shopping
Speaker 1: is done? Just a question, That's That's what I was
Speaker 1: wondering as I was trying to get everything ready for
Speaker 1: this morning. It's like, okay, cyber Monday. You see all
Speaker 1: the ads pop up in your emails and everything, and
Speaker 1: so cyber Monday here, Cyber Mondy here, cyber money here.
Speaker 1: So that was my that was my question for the
Speaker 1: morning when it came to Opening Kickoff anyway, is what's
Speaker 1: the deal with your shopping and your Cyber Monday and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So that's where that's where
Speaker 1: my head was with that so bad example me, most
Speaker 1: of it's done, but I shopped twelve months out of
Speaker 1: the year. So that's why I said, I wanted to
Speaker 1: compare notes this morning for Opening Kickoff, brought to us
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Speaker 1: So early precincts reporting in Abby says she's lucky and
Speaker 1: doesn't have to shop doing the traditional Honukah which does
Speaker 1: not entail gifts. Never have to do any shopping except
Speaker 1: during the year for birthdays. Pars is already nearly completely
Speaker 1: done shopping already nearly completely done. That sounds like there's
Speaker 1: some impulse shopping that's going to be done there part
Speaker 1: maybe one or two people left on the list. And
Speaker 1: Morning Rich and Morning Pars, Morning Abby, Morning Og Morning
Speaker 1: four Card And so I'm, like I said, I'm comparing
Speaker 1: notes this morning like I said, horrible example me, but
Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask where folks were in their
Speaker 1: cyber Monday shopping and if you're done after like today.
Speaker 1: But of course we all know that Cyber Monday shopping
Speaker 1: will lend itself into Tuesday and Wednesday, say cyber Monday,
Speaker 1: and we still got some stuff here, We still got
Speaker 1: some stuff to do, We still got some stuff going on.
Speaker 1: You know, panic sets in. Oh crap, I feel I
Speaker 1: feel left out and all that kind of stuff. Might
Speaker 1: help if I actually send an email. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you get whatever the heck else is going on,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like you're wondering why folks aren't
Speaker 1: popping in. It's like, well, hey, you know why because
Speaker 1: you didn't send the email. M m m m. I
Speaker 1: feel like I need dialing music or something. Uh mm hmmm. Okay,
Speaker 1: there we go. All right, So that's it's a studio space,
Speaker 1: so we'll see so nothing like nothing like wondering why
Speaker 1: folks are around, and then you find out why folks
Speaker 1: are around. Uh haven't happy really hasn't started? Uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: so yeah, because John's an idiot, he didn't send the
Speaker 1: link out in time. I am. I'm gonna do a
Speaker 1: bit of a crash course with Abe this morning, because yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm adult. It's a Monday. Oh oh oh, I gotta
Speaker 1: find out what he's wearing. All right, So here we go.
Speaker 1: He's all settled in. So what do you wear an Abe?
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm just wearing a Puma T shirt.
Speaker 4: I guess just maybe soccer oriented with a little crest.
Speaker 4: But it's not anything country specific. I apologize for my
Speaker 4: my cell phone situation. I have like multiple contingencies to
Speaker 4: remind myself to bring my computer and it's fitting.
Speaker 3: It's fitting at home right by the doorway. H So
Speaker 3: we're on the phone.
Speaker 1: Today, that's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: if I sent you the link at nine oh five,
Speaker 1: it would have been you know, we'd be all there.
Speaker 1: Since last time we talked, Garth Lockerly had his press
Speaker 1: conference and discussed the future and Rob Valentino is not
Speaker 1: a part of that future with Atlanta United as the
Speaker 1: head coach coming up in the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 1: Now we've had that, we're trying to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 1: is it a technical director, then coach? Is it coach
Speaker 1: then technical director? Does everybody sit across the table? Do
Speaker 1: they break bread? Do they go to an Italian restaurant
Speaker 1: and have a five course meal? Is it speed dating?
Speaker 1: Is it two minutes with this guy? You hear a ding,
Speaker 1: Garth hits a bell, and you go to the next
Speaker 1: guy at the next table. That's where we are right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, let's start with Rob Valentino.
Speaker 3: I don't think we were overly surprised that he's not
Speaker 3: going to be the choice.
Speaker 4: I think certainly the timeline and a lack of announcement
Speaker 4: sort of led towards that direction.
Speaker 3: But I do think there are a lot of people who.
Speaker 4: Were disappointed and certainly liked the late season movement of
Speaker 4: the squad. But but Garth locker Away made it very
Speaker 4: clear they're looking for someone with a little bit more
Speaker 4: experience and and look as the guy essentially running the team,
Speaker 4: that that's that's certainly up to him if that's what
Speaker 4: he wants.
Speaker 3: I'm not in love with the timeline he presented.
Speaker 4: I mean, he talked about hoping to have this stuff
Speaker 4: in place by Christmas.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm sitting here in my Christmas.
Speaker 4: We haven't even gotten a Thanksgiving yet at the time
Speaker 4: he made these comments, that's five weeks away, Like, like,
Speaker 4: what's the timeline?
Speaker 3: Why is it taking so long?
Speaker 4: Maybe it has something to do with teams that are
Speaker 4: still involved in MLS Cup playoffs. Certainly we're down to
Speaker 4: two now, so unless it's one of those two teams.
Speaker 4: But I wasn't in love with the timeline, especially when
Speaker 4: training camp is going to be right around the corner
Speaker 4: by the by the time you get things set in place.
Speaker 3: But I'm interested. I'm interested to see.
Speaker 4: Who they settle on in kind of what the arguments
Speaker 4: for that person over Rob Valentino ultimately is gonna be.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping it's more than just experience. I think we've
Speaker 4: seen across sports. Just because you had experience doesn't mean
Speaker 4: you're the right guy for the job. Just because you
Speaker 4: don't have experience doesn't mean you're the wrong.
Speaker 3: Guy for the job.
Speaker 4: So I think you're coming in and there's gonna be expectations.
Speaker 4: That's the other aspect of this, whether you want to
Speaker 4: believe it or not, whether you feel like there's a
Speaker 4: rebuilding phase and a lot of movement.
Speaker 3: Is going on. We said goodbye to I talked with
Speaker 3: you about the future.
Speaker 4: I was like, everyone up top is up for grabs,
Speaker 4: and we've seen departures already up top. I mean, based
Speaker 4: on how this season ended, based on the eliminating Miami
Speaker 4: in an unfortunate end to Orlando City, there's gonna be
Speaker 4: expectations coming in. This is not gonna be viewed as
Speaker 4: a rebuild, at least not by the fan base. Whether
Speaker 4: whether the team views it that way is one thing.
Speaker 4: The fan base is not going to and so it's
Speaker 4: got to be a situation where this coach can get
Speaker 4: up and running immediately and see some results. I mean,
Speaker 4: I know it's a long time ago, but the expectations
Speaker 4: coming into this past season were top four in the East,
Speaker 4: one of the most potent offenses.
Speaker 3: In the entire MLS.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you're necessarily gonna have those expectations, but
Speaker 4: battling for a home playoff game is gonna be among them,
Speaker 4: especially the way you ended the season with I think
Speaker 4: six of your last eight or five of your last
Speaker 4: seven being wins. That's gonna be the expectations. So they
Speaker 4: need to get a guy in quick. If they're gonna
Speaker 4: make severe changes and adjustments to the formations and what
Speaker 4: they're asking players to do and the roles of each guy,
Speaker 4: stuff like that, get it in quicker, and so I'd
Speaker 4: be quite frankly disappointed if we're still sitting here, you know,
Speaker 4: mid December, late December without a name yet.
Speaker 3: So hopefully this gets done quick and we can start
Speaker 3: to move forward.
Speaker 1: What kind of an individual are you looking for in
Speaker 1: a head coach?
Speaker 4: Me specifically, I'm not gonna get into the tactics and
Speaker 4: trying to bring in a head coach that maybe fits
Speaker 4: the personnel or doesn't fit the personnel. I think there's
Speaker 4: enough change over over the course of the given year.
Speaker 4: I think you also have a team that's quite young
Speaker 4: based on who is gonna stay and who's gonna go
Speaker 4: that that you can probably mold and shape some sorts
Speaker 4: of playing styles.
Speaker 3: And I also think you're gonna have a team that
Speaker 3: that is.
Speaker 4: Full of player leadership, especially with Gooz coming back, and
Speaker 4: congratulations to him.
Speaker 3: I know there was a little bit of question on.
Speaker 4: That, but but I think I do think you're gonna
Speaker 4: have some player leadership that's gonna help out the coach
Speaker 4: to player messaging. So I'm looking for a winner, and
Speaker 4: I know that's that's easy to say, but I need
Speaker 4: someone that's gonna look like he makes a difference. And
Speaker 4: I don't really know how you do that necessarily. I
Speaker 4: don't think it's about motivation. Like, like one of my
Speaker 4: biggest concerns about the Rob Valentino higher if he would
Speaker 4: have been here, is you can't play the way you
Speaker 4: played like the last third of the season, or really
Speaker 4: the last eight games, Like you can't play with that
Speaker 4: mindset and mentality and desperation the whole season, like like
Speaker 4: you're just gonna burn yourself out. So you need to
Speaker 4: be able to find wins without feeling like your back
Speaker 4: is against the wall. You gotta get a coach who
Speaker 4: can get this team off to better starts. Again, they
Speaker 4: they solved that issue for the most part in the
Speaker 4: last seven, eight, nine, ten games, but it was it
Speaker 4: was a serious issue early on.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4: Just looking for someone that that you can look at
Speaker 4: the team and he makes changes over the course of
Speaker 4: a game, over the course of the season that you
Speaker 4: say it feels like he had an impact on the results.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you get that.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just his general mindset, mantra and playing style
Speaker 4: to begin games. Maybe it's in game adjustments substitution patterns.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just Max the talent that you have finding
Speaker 4: something we didn't know was available to us. But I
Speaker 4: just want to coach that I feel like is going
Speaker 4: to essentially make a difference in results. And that's a
Speaker 4: very tough ask in this sort of sport. You're not
Speaker 4: exactly diagramming play calls and scripting your first fifteen plays
Speaker 4: or stuff like that. But I just want to feel
Speaker 4: like the managers makes a difference and hopefully we can
Speaker 4: find that guy.
Speaker 1: All right, another couple of minutes with a before he
Speaker 1: actually goes to work for you know, like getting paid
Speaker 1: to do things here On a reaction Monday, player player
Speaker 1: announcements were made also that we're attached to this roster.
Speaker 1: Looks like it's pretty much gonna be the same. Eighteen
Speaker 1: players under contract exercised options on four in discussions with three.
Speaker 1: Brad Effort, Jay Santi had their contract options exercise with
Speaker 1: Santi Sosa. It's because there is a team that is
Speaker 1: interested in South America and picking him up, and so
Speaker 1: what you do as you pick up the option to
Speaker 1: make sure you get paid. So that one's where that
Speaker 1: is six players contract options to client Santino Formino, Ronald Hernandez,
Speaker 1: Franco we Borro, Jamal, and Tyler. Club remains in negotiations
Speaker 1: with Ronald, Jamal and Tyler. All players eligible for the
Speaker 1: re entry Draft except for Tyler Wolf, who goes on waivers.
Speaker 1: Loan for Daniel Rios expires at the end of the
Speaker 1: calendar year, Daxon Q and Quentin Westberg retire. Any surprises
Speaker 1: out of that for you.
Speaker 4: No, I really don't think so we'll see who they
Speaker 4: end up bringing back. I think that could lean into
Speaker 4: my surprise or not surprised. But but you know, the
Speaker 4: obvious is the obvious with respector Rios and Wolf and Tira,
Speaker 4: you need someone more potent up top, someone that you
Speaker 4: can really just have a little bit more faith in.
Speaker 4: So so if those guys are back, I don't really
Speaker 4: expect it to be with the same expectations and necessarily
Speaker 4: the same role as we saw all them in.
Speaker 3: This year, at least not for Tierra.
Speaker 4: And I know he's getting up there at age I
Speaker 4: don't know, you know, you know, levels of fitness at
Speaker 4: that age in this sport, you know, you know when
Speaker 4: their prime is probably the youngest prime that you're gonna
Speaker 4: have across any major sport. It might be in soccer
Speaker 4: unless you're a running back in the NFL, but.
Speaker 3: But outside of that, So no, I don't think any surprises.
Speaker 3: I really was.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say nervous is not the right word, but
Speaker 4: but full of wonder. If they were gonna bring Guzan back,
Speaker 4: I think certainly there would be an understanding of the
Speaker 4: timeline for him, and more specifically a timeline for Josh Cohen.
Speaker 4: I think Gouz, to his credit, made that an incredibly
Speaker 4: difficult decision, and maybe a decision that was easy in
Speaker 4: the other direction to bring him back and give him
Speaker 4: one more year. I don't think they necessarily planned on it.
Speaker 4: I think they saw the form last year. They bring
Speaker 4: in Cohen, they set this timeline. We're gonna let Gooz
Speaker 4: right out into the sun, and he's got a complete
Speaker 4: throwback season, and so I think they had an original plan.
Speaker 3: And this is just me.
Speaker 4: I have no idea what the team's mindset is, but
Speaker 4: I think the original plan was a line of secession
Speaker 4: and this was gonna be Goose's last year and Josh
Speaker 4: Cohen was gonna come in and take over the starting
Speaker 4: role and we move forward. I think Gooz played so
Speaker 4: well he made it an easy decision the other direction to.
Speaker 3: Say, hey, we're gonna scrap that plan. This guy still
Speaker 3: got it. We're gonna go with him one more year.
Speaker 4: I think he's important to a team that's full of
Speaker 4: young guys that are still trying to build together. Probably
Speaker 4: also again if it were a different situation with your manager.
Speaker 4: But I think Gooz's experience can go bey on the
Speaker 4: field and be very important integral in communication between the
Speaker 4: manager and the rest of the team. I think that's
Speaker 4: an important aspect that I don't want to overlook as well.
Speaker 4: So the biggest surprise, which really isn't that big of
Speaker 4: a surprise based on how he performed, especially down the stretch,
Speaker 4: would be.
Speaker 3: Goose coming back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you had told me at mid season, I
Speaker 4: was like, Yeah, they're they're they're probably gonna let him
Speaker 4: ride off sunset and and it's it's coincterned. But that's
Speaker 4: not the case. I'm very happy to see that be
Speaker 4: the case. But of all the ones that were kind
Speaker 4: of minor surprises, maybe that one and then Ronald Hernandez.
Speaker 4: I think it's been so incredibly valuable for this team
Speaker 4: because of the variety of roles he can play. He's
Speaker 4: so flexible as a player that obviously, contract wise, they
Speaker 4: had to do what they had to do. But I
Speaker 4: would be a little surprised if they don't find a
Speaker 4: way to get him back.
Speaker 3: In the organization.
Speaker 1: All right, the fourth held up the light board and
Speaker 1: they added some minutes here we went past that fourth.
Speaker 1: What the fourth was doing? What's your week like? So
Speaker 1: you can get out of here and go get paid
Speaker 1: to work?
Speaker 4: Yeah, relatively normal this week to be honest. So we
Speaker 4: got through the post Thanksgiving nonsense and so and so
Speaker 4: we're we're just driving forward. Really enjoyed I know it
Speaker 4: was a day full of college football Saturday, but really
Speaker 4: did enjoy the MLS Cup playoffs, the conference semi finals here,
Speaker 4: so looking forward to MLS Cup when when we get there.
Speaker 4: But it was actually a pretty good week of competitive
Speaker 4: soccer there in the MLS.
Speaker 3: So so, I know a lot of people missed it.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was on the computer with the four TVs turned
Speaker 4: up to college football, but I was tuned in, ready
Speaker 4: to roll, and it paid off with some quality soccer.
Speaker 1: All right, my friend, get out of here. We'll see
Speaker 1: you next Monday.
Speaker 3: You got it, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 1: That's Abe, and Abe's gonna go and work at ninety
Speaker 1: two in the game and actually get paid for a living.
Speaker 1: And he's done talking with us, right, So there you go.
Speaker 1: A Abby's asking about Liam Welch and all the assistants.
Speaker 1: They are much like Rob under contract. I want to
Speaker 1: say till the end of the calendar year. Then we
Speaker 1: may have some answers as to what their futures are.
Speaker 1: But I do not know about the futures of the
Speaker 1: assistant coaches, and you know, the whole idea of I
Speaker 1: know that morning, let's say morning, Will Morning, Rich. David Moyes,
Speaker 1: David Moyes. Yeah see, now, Rich, you could probably just
Speaker 1: as easily sit there and say Sam Allardice, and I
Speaker 1: can guarant damn to you. I'm sure that somebody attached
Speaker 1: to Sam Allardyce probably sent a resume into the Children
Speaker 1: in So Health Care of Atlanta training ground to try
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, big Sam's available, Hey check it out.
Speaker 1: You know. But that was like way back in the summer,
Speaker 1: you know, like way back in the summer. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that there was a LinkedIn request from Sam Allardice to
Speaker 1: Garth Loggerway or a Land United or wherever it was,
Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, so yeah, David Moyes, David Moyes
Speaker 1: apparently is linked to some possible openings in the Premier
Speaker 1: League if things do not go certain ways for certain coaches.
Speaker 1: But and like I said, we got that to get
Speaker 1: into because it's a multiple match week ficture fantasy teams
Speaker 1: when it comes to that. But David Moys, David Moys,
Speaker 1: everybody here, you go four cards, like I guess EMMS
Speaker 1: will say no news to distract from MLS Cup this week,
Speaker 1: then that could very well be you don't want to
Speaker 1: upstage you've got and legitimately you only have six weeks
Speaker 1: before training camp. Since we're in December, it is literally
Speaker 1: mid January's training camp and if you are a club,
Speaker 1: then you don't want to distract from MLS Cup. Although
Speaker 1: there were some teams that did some things going into
Speaker 1: the weekend and through the weekend that we haven't had
Speaker 1: the chance to talk about that, we will here coming
Speaker 1: up in just a sec. But are we happy that
Speaker 1: the Purple team lost to Red Bulls. Abby says she
Speaker 1: hates both of them, but she hates the Purple team more.
Speaker 1: I understand that absolutely true. Morning Will Abby says one
Speaker 1: year contract would have been nice for Robs. Some of
Speaker 1: them met the supporters met with Garthur October sort of
Speaker 1: knew from what was said, Rob wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: the pick, but we're still hoping. Will is suggesting the
Speaker 1: likes of Jim Curtin and Gio Savarees going through the
Speaker 1: roster moves. Jamal liked him, but he's way too injury prone.
Speaker 1: And yes, Abby has to pay attention to the flags
Speaker 1: in the stadium, assuming Leam is gonna stay since he's
Speaker 1: the keeper. Coach Michael says, I think Garth's done a
Speaker 1: disservice to the next coach immediately has to be better
Speaker 1: than Rob better win and win fast. And so Derek
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, love to see it, and the the
Speaker 1: acronym o f yo okay. So Abe mentioned what happened
Speaker 1: this past weekend. Abby's mentioned it as well. You had
Speaker 1: Red Bulls beat the purple team that was that was
Speaker 1: the and if under a traditional environment the final being
Speaker 1: Red Bulls and lag it would be tremendous because if
Speaker 1: you are over the air and you are a network,
Speaker 1: you're looking at New Jersey and you're looking at Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: In theory, you might have eight people watching from New Jersey,
Speaker 1: considering it's not really New York. But then Los Angeles
Speaker 1: would be locked in place would be sold out. Dignity
Speaker 1: Hell Sports Park, Carson, California, it would be sold out.
Speaker 1: And so in a traditional sense, with the matchup being
Speaker 1: what it is, if it was the old days, and
Speaker 1: I mean literally just like two years ago, the networks
Speaker 1: would be pleased that you would have the two major
Speaker 1: media markets, one being somewhat adjacent and the other one
Speaker 1: being right there attached to a final with the way
Speaker 1: things are now involving the television partner that or the
Speaker 1: streaming service. Instead of a television partner, the streaming service
Speaker 1: that is now attached to the contract from Major League Soccer.
Speaker 2: NDER.
Speaker 1: And these are numbers that we don't get unless there
Speaker 1: is a press release after the fact where MLS cup
Speaker 1: will have X number of viewers, x number of good
Speaker 1: rich thank you. So the final is on Big Fox, okay,
Speaker 1: so that will be interesting. So I retract my statement
Speaker 1: to a certain degree. So you have free side of
Speaker 1: Apple TV, Fox Fox deport this. Okay, So that was
Speaker 1: so they've looped back, all right, So I take back
Speaker 1: part of my opening statement. I wonder now I will
Speaker 1: tweak what I was saying. I wonder what the numbers
Speaker 1: will be. I wonder what the streaming numbers will be.
Speaker 1: I wonder what the minutes will be when it comes
Speaker 1: to the streaming service in and of itself. And I
Speaker 1: wonder what with LA and New York adjacent, if the
Speaker 1: numbers will be impacted one way or the other when
Speaker 1: it comes to streaming versus over the air. Will the
Speaker 1: over the air audience be less, will they go will
Speaker 1: it be more? Because it is the two major media markets,
Speaker 1: one media and one media adjacent. I'm intrigued and I'm
Speaker 1: and I'm intrigued at how because you know that Fox
Speaker 1: and Fox deportees will sit there and they will they
Speaker 1: will tout their numbers, and they will salute and they
Speaker 1: will have trumpets going on in the air and all
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. And you look at Apple TV
Speaker 1: and I wonder just how much information we will get
Speaker 1: from them at the end of the day about subscribers
Speaker 1: streaming minutes peak time. Because we get all this information
Speaker 1: in traditional over the air television, we get that, but
Speaker 1: I wonder how much of that same information will be
Speaker 1: getting from Apple tear. It would be nice to have
Speaker 1: some kind of metrics, even I mean, because Peacock does
Speaker 1: it all the time. Peacock does it all the time,
Speaker 1: and they sit there and they'll be like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we had this many minutes and this many people and
Speaker 1: this was our peak viewing period and this and this
Speaker 1: and this and this and this. So I wonder if
Speaker 1: Apple TV will this time next week or probably Tuesday
Speaker 1: or something, after they do their analysis, Fox and Fox
Speaker 1: deporteeste will get you the overnights, and they'll get you
Speaker 1: the quick numbers and that kind of a thing. So
Speaker 1: you get a quick rating, you get a quick number,
Speaker 1: you get quick households, and then that'll roll over into
Speaker 1: the early part of the next week. I wonder how
Speaker 1: much information we get from Apple, Just genuinely curious because
Speaker 1: this is the top two media markets and what it
Speaker 1: will look like. So that, to me is my biggest
Speaker 1: thought pattern involving the top two media markets, not having
Speaker 1: to do with the folks in Fort Lauderdale for a
Speaker 1: championship game. What does it look like? I want to know.
Speaker 1: I will be intrigued as to what Apple tells us
Speaker 1: this time next week or eight days from now. Now,
Speaker 1: Michael Valverdi comes up with a point. The pooge injury
Speaker 1: completely changes the match on Saturday. Think it makes New
Speaker 1: York's chances way better. We'll get into juice boxes and
Speaker 1: a bit will monitor them as we go. But here
Speaker 1: are two moments from late in the match involving that
Speaker 1: particular gentleman and what he was up to for his club.
Speaker 1: As Lag would eventually win the Western Conference Final over
Speaker 1: Seattle Sounders once again courtesy of our friends at Apple
Speaker 1: TV and Major League Soccer Yellow Card Challenge. But good
Speaker 1: first time to Delcado.
Speaker 5: Delcado drives it, yobleh and pack poaching plot new Who.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a team that's worth fifteen goals in
Speaker 1: three games.
Speaker 2: I granted some of those when the game's gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, me being the wet blanket that I am.
Speaker 1: But it is.
Speaker 3: Oh, here we are.
Speaker 5: Pontificating about Seattle and it's just a bad giveaway from
Speaker 5: Alex rolled on spacings. There you lose possession and for
Speaker 5: the first time in this entire second half, spaces were
Speaker 5: there to be had. But everybody talks about pooch and paint,
Speaker 5: sil and tack. How about you ovilish twenty tlus goals
Speaker 5: in all competitions.
Speaker 3: And the biggest one in the Western.
Speaker 1: Conference Final ten years since they've hosted this thing ten years. Man,
Speaker 1: I feel like Jeremy Piven in gross point blank ten years.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I played those two moments for a reason.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you watched the Western
Speaker 1: Conference Final. We had a watch along at SDH and
Speaker 1: Jason doing the yeoman job that he was. We all
Speaker 1: kind of dropped in for the Eastern Conference Final. I
Speaker 1: had to leave because the Boss came home after spending
Speaker 1: a week with the mother in law, and so Jason
Speaker 1: did the yeomen work and he and he was there
Speaker 1: with you guys for the end of the watch along
Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel. Ricky Pooge after the match had
Speaker 1: a towel over his head and was hugging Greg Vanny
Speaker 1: and they were having a conversation. It was divulged that
Speaker 1: Ricky Pooge had a knee injury or suffered a knee
Speaker 1: injury in the game. In the game, Ricky Poosh got
Speaker 1: a knee injury in the match and played the final
Speaker 1: thirty minutes with it. That included those two moments that
Speaker 1: we played for you. Just a bit ago. Sunday, the
Speaker 1: Galaxy confirmed Ricky pooshe suffered a torn ACL on his
Speaker 1: left knee. He's gonna miss MLS Cup torn ACL revealed
Speaker 1: in an MRI performed on Sunday morning. This is from Lagayale.
Speaker 1: This is from LA Galaxy's front office. Pooge sustained the
Speaker 1: injury in the second half of the match, continuing to
Speaker 1: play over thirty minutes despite his injury, fighting the game
Speaker 1: winning assist on Yoviolich's eighty fifth minute goal poos you
Speaker 1: will undergo surgery on a date to be determined. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing they've got to let the swelling go down and
Speaker 1: they've got to get into a safe point to where
Speaker 1: they can fix the ACL. Seventeen and twenty this year,
Speaker 1: thirty seven goal contributions in thirty six matches play at
Speaker 1: all comps. Four matches played, four starts in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: four goals, four assists. Finished the MLS regular season sixteen
Speaker 1: and fourteen in twenty nine matches played, twenty eight starts,
Speaker 1: thirty goal contributions in MLS regular season play thirty seven
Speaker 1: goal contributions thirty six matches played, thirty four starts, all comps.
Speaker 1: So that came from La Galaxy last night about seven o'clock.
Speaker 1: Right now, juice boxes have LAG at a minus one
Speaker 1: twenty two ninety minute draws A plus two eighty eight
Speaker 1: Red Bulls to win in ninety minutes a plus two
Speaker 1: eighty nine. Derek mentions the burying of the lead by
Speaker 1: Lag in that press release. Ricky Pooge played thirty minutes
Speaker 1: on a torn ACL that included the imagination and the
Speaker 1: passing that we saw in the first sixty minutes, thinking
Speaker 1: you know, okay, Ricky Pooh, you're going to Ricky Pooge. Now,
Speaker 1: of course we're all gonna sit there and go back
Speaker 1: and go, okay, what was the moment where it happened
Speaker 1: when we go back and watch the match. But Ricky
Speaker 1: Pooge played thirty minutes on a torn ACL and got
Speaker 1: the assist on the goal to the Bishop Dejon Joviolch
Speaker 1: which got lag in the MLS Cup final. I will
Speaker 1: be intrigued to find out how Greg Vanny will I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna use the word fix, alter his lineup and
Speaker 1: figure out who's going to be the person pulling the strings?
Speaker 1: Is it Diego Fagundez. I will be intrigued to listen
Speaker 1: to what's going on with Greg Vanny this week as
Speaker 1: to as how he administers a fix to the lineup
Speaker 1: with the injury to Ricky Pooge. But Derek had it
Speaker 1: from the press release they buried the lead Ricky poshe
Speaker 1: played thirty minutes with a torn ACL and continue to
Speaker 1: do what he did looked about as normal as it
Speaker 1: was seven o'clock last night, we find out he's got
Speaker 1: a torn ACL and that added the context to me anyway,
Speaker 1: seeing Ricky Pooge literally with a towel over his head
Speaker 1: talking to Vanny. And then there was the moment that
Speaker 1: Pooge had with his parents where I think that Pooge's
Speaker 1: back was to the camera and wasn't There was no
Speaker 1: way to read obviously Ricky Pooge's lips, but I think
Speaker 1: he was breaking the news to his dad. That's something right.
Speaker 1: So Ricky Pooge played thirty minutes on a torn acl
Speaker 1: and included the game winning assist on the goal that
Speaker 1: got them to MLS Cup once again. I will be
Speaker 1: intrigued as to see what Greg Vanny does and how
Speaker 1: his lineup is different come this weekend. Rich says he
Speaker 1: still thinks that the Galaxy win, Orlando wasn't ready for
Speaker 1: the moment against the Red Bulls. Galaxy would be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a tall order for Red Bulls. But we've seen with
Speaker 1: Red Bulls that this is not our normal Red bull
Speaker 1: They are so much different with Emil Forsburg in that
Speaker 1: lineup that we have seen the difference with Red Bulls
Speaker 1: with and without. Had Forstburg been hell, they would not
Speaker 1: have been the seed that they were. That is obvious
Speaker 1: to me anyway, So emil Forsburg, had he been healthy,
Speaker 1: they would have been higher up in the in the standing.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a bit of a false read
Speaker 1: as to well, they're only, you know, the seed that
Speaker 1: they are, when in fact they are a far better
Speaker 1: team than that. But right now, heading into Los Angeles
Speaker 1: for MLS Cup, they are a plus two eighty nine
Speaker 1: heading out to California. Heading out to California, a plus
Speaker 1: two eighty nine. Obviously, we will monitor that as we
Speaker 1: go this week. But yeah, Red Bulls as a seven seed.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry they're not a seven seed, but we will
Speaker 1: see once again how Sandro Schwartz attacks lag without Ricky
Speaker 1: Pooge and rich about ratings as the rumor as the
Speaker 1: black helicopter folks like to say. MLS and Apple don't
Speaker 1: like the ratings, they don't release the numbers. So there
Speaker 1: you go. David talking about TV markets New York City
Speaker 1: and Boca Fort Lottedom pretty much the same population, just
Speaker 1: older down south Miami. Red bull the same thing, right,
Speaker 1: Oh man, let's see. Uh. Will was discussing coaching, coaching,
Speaker 1: the coaching vacancy for Atlanta United mentioned a couple of names,
Speaker 1: Jim curt and Gia Savareesi. I think that one of
Speaker 1: those individuals probably is going to be sought after by
Speaker 1: another team, and that team is Toronto bark Keeler joining
Speaker 1: us in about ten minutes, of course, happening in a
Speaker 1: Friday news dump situation, So I get I give Toronto
Speaker 1: FC a boatload of credit for this. By the way,
Speaker 1: in a Friday news dump where the United States media
Speaker 1: is in black Friday mode the day after Thanksgiving. You know,
Speaker 1: it's still a holiday weekend. It's a four day weekend
Speaker 1: for the US media and for people in the United States.
Speaker 1: All right, So US news media is in a holiday weekend,
Speaker 1: four day weekend, four o'clock on a Friday afternoon. You
Speaker 1: get this from Toronto FC. Toronto FC announced today that
Speaker 1: John Herdman has resigned his position as head coach of
Speaker 1: the club effective today. Quote. Personally, I've made the difficult
Speaker 1: decision that it's the right time for me to step
Speaker 1: away from the club as the organization defines its vision
Speaker 1: for the future, said Herdman. Continues, it has been an
Speaker 1: honor to where the Toronto FC Creston contribute to the
Speaker 1: growth of the club. Working with this dedicated group of
Speaker 1: players and staff has been a true privilege. I want
Speaker 1: to thank Keith Pelly and MLSC the ownership for the opportunity,
Speaker 1: and I also want to thank the incredible fans for
Speaker 1: the support they've shown me, both on and off the pitch.
Speaker 1: I wish the organization's success going forward, and I look
Speaker 1: forward to the next chapter in my career. Keith Pelly
Speaker 1: had a quote last sentence. Toronto Herdman was named head
Speaker 1: coach at Toronto SEEN in August twenty twenty three. During
Speaker 1: his tenure, he guided to the rest of the League's
Speaker 1: Cup group stage in the Canadian Championship Final. That's the
Speaker 1: end of the press release, and Rich quoting the line
Speaker 1: of the day. Traditionally in this situation, Morning Harry for us,
Speaker 1: like I said, the US media was in a four
Speaker 1: day weekend, which is ninety percent of the franchises in
Speaker 1: Major League Soccer, but at three point fifty seven as
Speaker 1: it was released by Toronto FC on a Friday. Anyway
Speaker 1: you get that from Toronto FC. So John Herdman in
Speaker 1: his press release, I have made the difficult decision that
Speaker 1: it's the right time for me to step away from
Speaker 1: the club as the organization defines its vision for the future.
Speaker 1: I have made the difficult decision it's the right time
Speaker 1: for me to step away. Sure you have with everything
Speaker 1: going on right now, with all the investigations personally, I
Speaker 1: have made the decision it's time to step away. You
Speaker 1: want to talk about helicopters and thought patterns and really,
Speaker 1: I mean this is a second Amy moment of a
Speaker 1: really and yes Rich as the line Rich says, or
Speaker 1: a Friday in Canada, lo l That is an offshoot
Speaker 1: of a beautiful line from Jay on Right, who is
Speaker 1: a longtime sports center TSN host, where there was a
Speaker 1: there was a one liner that he dropped once having
Speaker 1: to do with last week, and he said, there are
Speaker 1: no games and I'm paraphrasing, there are no National Hockey
Speaker 1: League games today, meaning on Thanksgiving Day here in the
Speaker 1: United States, because it is American Thanksgiving, or as we
Speaker 1: in Canada call it Thursday. He goes right on with
Speaker 1: the highlights. So yes, Rich, with the yes Rich, with
Speaker 1: the offshoot of that Jay on Right line. It was
Speaker 1: Friday in Canada, so it was a Friday news dump
Speaker 1: in Canada, and it was a four day weekend news
Speaker 1: dump in the United States, So that was where you
Speaker 1: ended up with John Herdman coming out with this couple
Speaker 1: of sentences, Keith Pelly coming out with a couple of
Speaker 1: sentences in a news dump to beat all news dumps.
Speaker 1: So the og to TFC can envision a cheater as
Speaker 1: its head coach and Rich says, yeah, can't be fired
Speaker 1: if I quit. I'm guessing this is one of those
Speaker 1: wink wink, nudge, nudge. How about you do this kind
Speaker 1: of a deal. I'm guessing there was some kind of
Speaker 1: a settlement, tell you what we will pay you X,
Speaker 1: just go ahead and do it now. My guess is
Speaker 1: Toronto FC anticipates that there is going to be more
Speaker 1: news or developments on this going forward. And both Herdman
Speaker 1: and Toronto FC were eviscerated in the Friday slash weekend
Speaker 1: media in Canada. So with the drone investigation continuing in
Speaker 1: Canada right now, so you have John Herdman being continues
Speaker 1: to be investigated once again. And this was how Armann
Speaker 1: Badakian phrased it at One Soccer. We'll get you to
Speaker 1: Rick Westhead here in a second. Once again, you don't
Speaker 1: want Rick west Head on a byline attached to you,
Speaker 1: And once again you had Badakian at One Soccer basically
Speaker 1: quote the press release with an introductory paragraph steps down
Speaker 1: from his position in the midst of an ongoing investigation
Speaker 1: regarding his potential role in the drone gate spying controversy,
Speaker 1: that I already saw his once assistant, Deft Priestsman fired
Speaker 1: from her role as head coach of the Canadian women's
Speaker 1: national team. So that was what Badakian said about it,
Speaker 1: leading into the quotes from the press release. So then
Speaker 1: you go to Rick Westhead and once again requested TSN
Speaker 1: somebody that you don't want to have attached to you.
Speaker 1: And so Westhead rolls through the release and here's what
Speaker 1: west Head added at the bottom. Herdman's been caught up
Speaker 1: in recent months in a dronespying controversy that has ensnared
Speaker 1: Canada soccer. Herdman did not participate in a third party
Speaker 1: review of allegations this summer about the inappropriate use of
Speaker 1: drones by national team staff because of quote scheduling issues.
Speaker 1: An investigator said, So this was literally and there is
Speaker 1: a reason that I have held on to a particular
Speaker 1: segment in a particular interview involving John Herdman. I want
Speaker 1: to take you back once again, take you back to
Speaker 1: July twenty six, Bark Killer joining us in a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes July twenty six, here's what John Herdman said
Speaker 1: as head coach of Toronto FC at the time.
Speaker 6: John, I have to ask you a question another topic.
Speaker 6: As you know, Canada soccer is in the spotlight for
Speaker 6: actions alleged actions at the Olympics. I know you're no
Speaker 6: longer involved with Canada soccer, but Kevin Blue today cited
Speaker 6: a systematic ethical shortcoming and I wonder if you could
Speaker 6: tell us how prevalent do you think spying is in
Speaker 6: world football? And during your time as Canada coach, were
Speaker 6: you a victim of it? What did you take part?
Speaker 1: To me?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I arrived back lit it last night
Speaker 7: from the Olympics. I had the chance to watch my
Speaker 7: boy play and obviously celebrate that moment with him, and
Speaker 7: it reminds you again how hard players work to get
Speaker 7: to that moment, the sacrifices they made with them and
Speaker 7: their families. It's certainly a big moment. So landing to
Speaker 7: that news was a surprise and shock, and I think
Speaker 7: firstly I'm devastated for the players. I think we have to,
Speaker 7: you know, moments like this, you know, respect that they've
Speaker 7: put some work in to be there. I've been a
Speaker 7: head coach of a team that's competed for medals, won medals,
Speaker 7: and you know, those players need the spotlight on their
Speaker 7: talents at this moment in time. This isn't a time
Speaker 7: to sort of nitpick about scouting at tournaments. I think,
Speaker 7: you know, whatever's happened, I think Canada SOCC are going
Speaker 7: to be conducting their internal reviews, which is the right
Speaker 7: thing to do, and I'll be happy to help them
Speaker 7: with that process for sure, to tell them about the
Speaker 7: experiences we had in our competitions, et cetera. But for me,
Speaker 7: you know, this is about the is. You know, we're
Speaker 7: really putting spotlight on something that isn't you know what
Speaker 7: this Olympics is about, which is their talent and and
Speaker 7: their moment to shine. And I think the quicker we
Speaker 7: get back there, the better.
Speaker 6: I think that's why it isn't it though it is
Speaker 6: taking place to get a little bit. I'm just wondering
Speaker 6: if you can give us your thoughts on how prevalent
Speaker 6: do you think this kind of thing isball.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, you know, I'll go through that process
Speaker 7: with Canada Soccer. I think anything I say now, you know,
Speaker 7: it's just going to bring more spotlight to this this situation.
Speaker 7: As I say, I'd like the spotlight to be back
Speaker 7: on our players as quickly as we can. You know,
Speaker 7: for me, you know, the integrity of their view is
Speaker 7: important and if I ask the contribute at all, I'll
Speaker 7: be there. I think everyone will be aware of situations
Speaker 7: from you know, previous coaches, et cetera that have been
Speaker 7: public I think there's there's things in the public domain
Speaker 7: now you know these things have happened before. But for me,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm hoping to help Canada Software in any
Speaker 7: way I can. But I would say, I just want
Speaker 7: this to be about the players, Like, yeah, I felt,
Speaker 7: I really feel for them. They have a game tomorrow
Speaker 7: and knowing what it's like in those environments, there's enough
Speaker 7: pressure as it is. They just need to be able
Speaker 7: to focus.
Speaker 1: Thank you. But can you say whether I do.
Speaker 8: That knowledge of or involvement in any type of tone
Speaker 8: users line during your time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I come back to the question, which
Speaker 7: is you know this is an Olympic Games it's the
Speaker 7: biggest event on the planet. You know, it's a sporting
Speaker 7: event that has massive integrity and for me, you know,
Speaker 7: we have to make sure that those things are upheld. Always.
Speaker 7: I've always gone into Olympic Games, World Cups, big events
Speaker 7: with integrity in mind and the ability to compete at
Speaker 7: the highest level, following the rules and processes. So, you know,
Speaker 7: for my side, as a say, I'll help kind of
Speaker 7: Towerrakhan without review, but I'm highly confident in my time
Speaker 7: as a head coach, not in an Olympic Games or
Speaker 7: we'll cope. We've never been involved in any of those activities.
Speaker 1: Highly confident in my time. Notice he didn't mention Conker
Speaker 1: Cat once again, that was four months ago. Multiple times
Speaker 1: the review knocked on his door, Penny Sheldon, you know,
Speaker 1: one of those just you know, we'd like for you,
Speaker 1: we'd like for you to.
Speaker 2: Help out, Penny Sheldon.
Speaker 1: And apparently John Herdman multiple times to ask, decided not
Speaker 1: to be a part of the review, bringing Bart Keeler Hi, Bart,
Speaker 1: good morning. Yes, so John Herdman out in a news dump,
Speaker 1: in a fantastic news dump by Toronto FC back on Friday,
Speaker 1: and before you came on, I was discussing the alleged
Speaker 1: systematic ethical shortcoming attached to Canada soccer and to Bev Priestman,
Speaker 1: who is I guess, in the soccer equivalent of time
Speaker 1: out and show cause. She is Kelvin Sampson, now I
Speaker 1: guess until further noted, and John Herdman in the news dump,
Speaker 1: at least in the American news dump sense, and then
Speaker 1: on a late Friday afternoon which was a traditional news dump.
Speaker 1: Since John Herdman out at Toronto FC. Personally, I think
Speaker 1: it's best that's what he says. I'm thinking that Toronto
Speaker 1: FC basically knows more than they think that the public knows.
Speaker 1: They know that Eli's coming, Hydra hart Girl and the
Speaker 1: hammer might be dropping, and they don't need to have
Speaker 1: anything attached to John Herdman with him being under their employer.
Speaker 1: That's my gut.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think this was a conversation between Toronto and Hardman, who.
Speaker 2: Is obviously.
Speaker 9: The focus, I mean, if not the sole focus of
Speaker 9: the investigation, the main focus of the investigation at this point,
Speaker 9: and there's an agreement between the two parties to just
Speaker 9: say let's cut ties before. Especially for Toronto this is
Speaker 9: a cya because they don't want to be stuck with
Speaker 9: any real surprises. They don't want to go any further
Speaker 9: into the offseason not having an idea if they're going
Speaker 9: to have.
Speaker 2: A coach, So they'd rather just say, Hey, we're.
Speaker 9: Gonna to leave and we'll go find someone else.
Speaker 1: And my gut thinks it might be Jim Curtin who
Speaker 1: wants to be the g SLASH technical director SLASH and
Speaker 1: a coach and have both titles in a place that
Speaker 1: would be the anti Philadelphia where Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I think.
Speaker 9: John I'm still not a fan of a coach being
Speaker 9: both GM oh.
Speaker 1: Neither am I No, neither am I? I mean I do.
Speaker 9: Think well, yes, I do think Curtain would like more
Speaker 9: control over roster decisions, because that was obviously the reason
Speaker 9: why it didn't go as well as it maybe could
Speaker 9: have in Philadelphia, and especially this year, was the reason
Speaker 9: why they fell so short. But I think Toronto would
Speaker 9: be a better landing place for Curtin than you know,
Speaker 9: some other yep that may exist, particularly very locally. Yes,
Speaker 9: but with the difference being that MLS will spend money
Speaker 9: and that is something that I know Curtin would like
Speaker 9: to have. I mean, I don't think Curtin is expecting
Speaker 9: them to spend eighty million dollars a year for him
Speaker 9: or however much they spent whatever it was when they
Speaker 9: bought this, you know, half the Italian national team. Yes,
Speaker 9: that that is still indicative of a club that is
Speaker 9: willing to spend some money to bring in actually good
Speaker 9: players up and down the roster. And that's something that
Speaker 9: Curtain hasn't had. And also, you know, I think if
Speaker 9: you're Jim Carton, you look at Toronto as a potential
Speaker 9: academy location where you can continue to mold the younger generation.
Speaker 9: So I don't I don't think Toronto's academy has been particularly.
Speaker 1: I don't robust product PRODUCTIVI.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that might be an opportunity for him as well,
Speaker 9: just to kind of take some of the things that
Speaker 9: he's learned from the Philadelphia side and put that into Toronto.
Speaker 9: I mean, Toronto is the what the largest city in
Speaker 9: Canada and one of the top five in North America.
Speaker 9: If it's a large city, and that would in theory
Speaker 9: mean that you have a great deal of talent to
Speaker 9: pull from on top of a great fan base that
Speaker 9: could you know, support you.
Speaker 1: Yep uh and rich once again making the point curtain
Speaker 1: to toront would hurt more than him going to Atlanta
Speaker 1: because it's unlimited budget one hundred Philadelphia. Absolutely true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but within the salary cap purview, yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, but you're gonna get three actual dps M.
Speaker 1: Yeah you are, and you can you can, you can
Speaker 1: drop plenty of you can drop plenty of dime on
Speaker 1: in Tim Horton's gift cards and Canadian tire bucks on
Speaker 1: bringing all of them in. Uh. You had you had
Speaker 1: you had requested time, Yes, salary cap Uh since this
Speaker 1: was a rivalry weekend in American football. Mm hmm. Uh,
Speaker 1: you had requested time at the beginning of your of
Speaker 1: your appearance here this week to discuss the situation I
Speaker 1: believe it West by God Virginia, and uh I will,
Speaker 1: I will yield the floor. Uh see, we need to
Speaker 1: get you over on the college football side of things.
Speaker 2: Over my podcasting start, John.
Speaker 1: We we need to get you over on the college
Speaker 1: football side to discuss West by God Virginia. I yield
Speaker 1: the floor for your opening statement on a Reaction Monday
Speaker 1: to discuss American college football and the situation at West
Speaker 1: by God Virginia. Proceed.
Speaker 2: So I just want to first off, say that.
Speaker 9: I've felt this season this year with a lot of
Speaker 9: people saying, well, this person is a really good person.
Speaker 9: This coach is just a really great guy and he's
Speaker 9: respected and loved, but the results in the field don't
Speaker 9: match that. And that has been the frustrating part with
Speaker 9: my fandom for two of my favorite teams this year,
Speaker 9: and when it came to West Virginia specifically, it it
Speaker 9: was six years of not believing the team was going
Speaker 9: to actually do something cool or great or exciting. We
Speaker 9: had a decent season last year and I think that
Speaker 9: was really what did it. And for Neil Brown is
Speaker 9: you had a really good close the season in twenty
Speaker 9: twenty three, you get the win over North Carolina up
Speaker 9: in Charlotte and the bowl game, you finished with nine wins,
Speaker 9: and you go, what can you use how.
Speaker 2: Can you use this to.
Speaker 9: Continue to climb to take that message they've been pushing
Speaker 9: for the past six years. And when you finished six
Speaker 9: and six a conference that was severely depleted by the
Speaker 9: two biggest.
Speaker 2: Teams leaving and bringing in some teams.
Speaker 9: That are not at that level, by the way, that
Speaker 9: you didn't have to play for the most part, we
Speaker 9: didn't play Colorado.
Speaker 2: We didn't play.
Speaker 9: Utah, you know, we we didn't have to play any
Speaker 9: of the big boys this year. That came in, and
Speaker 9: the fact that you weren't able to get to even
Speaker 9: seven wins during the regular season, the fact that you
Speaker 9: lost both of your games to the local rivals, and
Speaker 9: one of those very badly at home to open the season.
Speaker 9: After again, all this Pike was built, and the way
Speaker 9: that you know, the team continued to lose in the
Speaker 9: similar ways, with bad mistakes on individual parts, bad schemes
Speaker 9: both offensively and defensively. Being nice, being a good guy
Speaker 9: is great, but at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 9: a results based business and when you're not getting results,
Speaker 9: you know, there's no reason to keep you around. And
Speaker 9: that's just kind of where and I'm sorry to bring
Speaker 9: it up, but that's just where I've always been. With
Speaker 9: the Gonzale Paneda thing is, I know, he's a really
Speaker 9: great dude and he I'm sure people love playing for him.
Speaker 9: You got to win, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 9: if it doesn't matter if your players, your guys love
Speaker 9: playing for you, but if you're not winning, what does
Speaker 9: it matter?
Speaker 2: You know? I think probably could be said of Greg
Speaker 2: Berholter as well, where.
Speaker 9: A lot of the guys playing for Greg but can't
Speaker 9: have results that don't match those expectations. And now you've
Speaker 9: got to find someone who for WU. Anyway, you have
Speaker 9: to find someone who can hopefully continue a decent culture
Speaker 9: that's been built, but get results on the field and
Speaker 9: figure out how to win in a place that you're
Speaker 9: not going to get the best recruiting classes. But you've
Speaker 9: got to maximize the talent and we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1: You've got to go into Pennsylvania and get kids there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing for West Virginia is
Speaker 9: you've got Pittsburgh and Philly that are close by.
Speaker 2: You've got the Ohio area, which is always talent. You
Speaker 2: got the DMV there.
Speaker 9: You know, You've got plenty of areas to just go
Speaker 9: get talent outside of your state, and you got to
Speaker 9: maximize it. I mean, West Virginia for a while there
Speaker 9: is i mean piping amend from South Florida too, and
Speaker 9: we've lost that connection. But yeah, it was disappointing, It
Speaker 9: was unsurprising. It was a relief when it finally happened.
Speaker 1: Three ranked teams losses this year started this season at
Speaker 1: home against Penn State. You also lost to eleventh ranked
Speaker 1: Iowa State and seventeenth thrank Kansas, three of those at home.
Speaker 1: Then you lose backyard brawl thirty eight thirty four, and
Speaker 1: then you lose two of your last three to Baylor
Speaker 1: at home, yeah, by fourteen. And then in Lubbock where
Speaker 1: Texas Tech put fifty two.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wiped in Lubbock.
Speaker 9: I mean, those tortillas came and slapped across the face.
Speaker 9: You couldn't get up. And again, you have to get results.
Speaker 9: And I think most West Virginia fans would agree with me.
Speaker 9: We're not expecting you to win ten eleven games every.
Speaker 2: Year, but this particular season of the Big twelve, John
Speaker 2: was wide open.
Speaker 9: As you clearly see, you've got Arizona State, who's the
Speaker 9: first timer in the conference in the conference has never
Speaker 9: made a conference championship. We've been in this damn league
Speaker 9: for oh goodness.
Speaker 2: As the person who was there for the very first
Speaker 2: Big twelve.
Speaker 9: Game seventy to sixty three against Baylor, that is the problem, right,
Speaker 9: and Dana I think it's I think Dana's tenure kind
Speaker 9: of showed where we could be in the old Big
Speaker 9: twelve which is maybe hopefully getting a shot. We were
Speaker 9: expecting Neil, especially in the new Big twelve, to find
Speaker 9: a way to get us to the actual championship game.
Speaker 9: And I think that's just where we are at is
Speaker 9: we need to be the expectation or the goal of
Speaker 9: making a conference championship game needs to be realistic every year,
Speaker 9: not just you.
Speaker 1: Know, yes, a state statement game. All right, So, uh,
Speaker 1: now's go back to now that the American football discussion
Speaker 1: has has gone away, at least temporarily until I sit
Speaker 1: there and vent my spleen about my program with a
Speaker 1: six three million dollar buyout.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons that we brought you in other
Speaker 1: than American football was to discuss bomb hops on parade
Speaker 1: in in one day. And it felt at this time
Speaker 1: that was called.
Speaker 2: It looked no.
Speaker 1: Had ninety eight bazillion people Yeah, watching Veigman v. Hayes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it ended up a goalless draw.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if that.
Speaker 9: Was if you were to evaluate this game as an entirety,
Speaker 9: that was probably the only negative is no goals. And
Speaker 9: at some point it looked like maybe the only goal
Speaker 9: was going to come from a penalty kick, which was
Speaker 9: very erroneously called. I understand why it was called on
Speaker 9: the field, I truly do. I'm glad that var was
Speaker 9: implemented to not have that as a penalty kick because
Speaker 9: that was that was not a penalty kick.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's not a handball, you know, John.
Speaker 9: This is one of those where I saw someone tweet
Speaker 9: that they would or skeet.
Speaker 2: I forget which apple was on, but.
Speaker 9: They they were like, you know, we should make this
Speaker 9: kind of a Thanksgiving tradition. Ooh, I like that, and
Speaker 9: back and forth, depending on you know where it is.
Speaker 9: I honestly wouldn't mind a November window always being in Europe.
Speaker 9: I think the US men used to do this a lot,
Speaker 9: especially under Kleansman. I think they should get back to that.
Speaker 9: And it gives you something to just look forward to
Speaker 9: for the Thanksgiving slate. Gives you a little different taste
Speaker 9: on your palette other than the football you've been the
Speaker 9: American football you've been in.
Speaker 1: Seriously, if you started your day, you started your day
Speaker 1: in in in Angland, yep, with like a nine a m.
Speaker 1: Eastern time US kick, it's two o'clock in the afternoon, yep.
Speaker 1: You're done by eleven. You get your pregame show done,
Speaker 1: then you can focus on American football for the rest
Speaker 1: of the day. We have programmed a solution for.
Speaker 9: And for you know, a network like T and T
Speaker 9: and TBS, it doesn't really have college football, which is changing,
Speaker 9: I believe, but they are getting college football for the playoff.
Speaker 2: Is that this happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're a part of it.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know that.
Speaker 9: I think it's a great programming thing. And I think
Speaker 9: when you look at not just this being one versus
Speaker 9: two this year, because that's what it was, but just
Speaker 9: two programs that seem to value the women's teams very highly.
Speaker 9: That's the type of production you want to give to
Speaker 9: the rest of the world to force them to up
Speaker 9: their game when it comes to supporting with the women's side.
Speaker 9: And you know you're getting another one tomorrow with Netherlands.
Speaker 9: And I think that that on itself, John is really
Speaker 9: the big takeaway from this game, because when you're looking
Speaker 9: at the US play this game specifically, you don't have
Speaker 9: Triple Espresso, you don't have Katerina Macario. So those are
Speaker 9: four of your those are your four best attacking players.
Speaker 9: You know that, and if you're not having Sophia Smith
Speaker 9: start in the center it's going to be cat start
Speaker 9: in the center. And then after that you didn't even
Speaker 9: have like, you know, a the official who's still coming
Speaker 9: back from injury. You didn't really have a true striker,
Speaker 9: which needs to be something MH figures out long term.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm a little surprised that Ashley Hatch hasn't
Speaker 9: come back into the fold a little bit. Sho had
Speaker 9: a decent season for Washington. But when you don't have that, okay,
Speaker 9: well you don't score any goals, you still created some
Speaker 9: decent chances.
Speaker 2: You still had.
Speaker 9: Opportunities to put the ball in the back of the net.
Speaker 9: You know, Mary Rps proved that she's pretty darn good. John,
Speaker 9: I've heard this, so did a listen there, you know,
Speaker 9: And I think defensively you didn't really give up any
Speaker 9: true chances to England.
Speaker 2: That were super scary. I thought Germa did a great job.
Speaker 2: I thought Krueger had a pretty decent game.
Speaker 9: And I think that is the takeaway is, well, you
Speaker 9: didn't give up any real chances to a very good
Speaker 9: England team, and although you didn't score any goals without
Speaker 9: your top talent, you still created a decent amount of chances.
Speaker 1: Ten to four in the shots three to one on target,
Speaker 1: fifty four percent possession. But once again, possession for me
Speaker 1: is like time of possession in American college football is
Speaker 1: what you do.
Speaker 2: Says it earned from Friday and John means thet least squat.
Speaker 1: Yes, once again Americans in our review. Once again no
Speaker 1: attack in the midfield look disjointed, nothing hit the target.
Speaker 1: Second half. Now let's go through the numbers. A listener
Speaker 1: gets a five. It's like a listener gets a five,
Speaker 1: and we do this. Theodore Lloyd Hughes TLH was the
Speaker 1: one in response for the numbers, this time for my
Speaker 1: friends in soccer America. And we do this as a
Speaker 1: part of either agreeing, disagreeing, or refuting the numbers that
Speaker 1: are presented here, just to give everybody a baseline for
Speaker 1: what went down. So a listen air gets a five.
Speaker 1: Reliable as ever in all honesty, with such peerless performances
Speaker 1: from the defenders in front of her, she had very
Speaker 1: very little to do. Only say she had was from
Speaker 1: Leah Williamson. Header cornerkick, second half ball trickled into the
Speaker 1: Americans gloves with the ease. So she gets a five
Speaker 1: because so TLH promotes the everleven daylights out of her.
Speaker 1: She gets a five.
Speaker 9: I guess, yeah, I understand what he's saying, but that's bruh.
Speaker 1: Come on defenders once again, Naomi Gearmack, Casey Krueger was
Speaker 1: also and Casey Krueger, I needed to pull this, I
Speaker 1: needed to pull this highlight down. But Casey Kruger gives
Speaker 1: just as well as she received. Yeah, at ninety plus,
Speaker 1: there was a moment where it's a goalless draw and
Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, both sides are thinking, yeah, okay, it's cool,
Speaker 1: we'll get out of here, goalless draw. So Casey Krueger
Speaker 1: gets knocked off her feet and gets sent basically into
Speaker 1: the coaches area, the coaches box, and she's down for
Speaker 1: a little bit. But then when she gets back up,
Speaker 1: ball is sent forward and she is more than happy
Speaker 1: to dial up a receipt and it was an instant receipt.
Speaker 1: She wasted no time on the payback on this one.
Speaker 9: I really did like that in response from her, it
Speaker 9: was kind of funny because you know she got I mean,
Speaker 9: she did get a foul call for that instance on
Speaker 9: the sideline wow, as it should have been a foul,
Speaker 9: and she made sure that that wasn't just the only
Speaker 9: payback that England got for that, and that again, that's
Speaker 9: what this type of game, I mean, this game is.
Speaker 2: Not friendly. Both of these teams want to win.
Speaker 9: I mean again, England's number two in the world, they
Speaker 9: want to be number one.
Speaker 2: And if you're.
Speaker 9: Talking England is looking at this as the first real
Speaker 9: step toward preparing for Euros twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Well, you're not going to get a better team than.
Speaker 9: The US at euro So this is the best possible
Speaker 9: way to look at this as to prepare for that tournament.
Speaker 1: There was two hundred and forty eight years of history
Speaker 1: attached to those Also that also that I mean literally,
Speaker 1: but I like that. I like that laid in a man.
Speaker 1: Absolutely that A you're still dialed in, but B you're
Speaker 1: not going to take any is from someone that wants
Speaker 1: to try to to You know, you can you can
Speaker 1: give whatever degree of a hit you want. You can
Speaker 1: say it was cheap, you can say it was late,
Speaker 1: you can say it you know it wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: square or anything like that. But yeah, someone plows you over.
Speaker 1: Casey Kruger is like, Okay, I'll remember that. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like the Red Wings in the Avalanche where
Speaker 1: they wait three hundred and seventy one ways Jaron McCarty
Speaker 1: to chase after clothing you. It literally was within thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: Casey Krueger adheres to the code and gives the payback.
Speaker 2: I was saying, as she should.
Speaker 9: That's that's some also like some mom energy of like, ah,
Speaker 9: you're not getting this over on me, which I appreciate.
Speaker 1: Emily Fox, Emily Sonnett got sixes, No McGear Mccasey Krueger
Speaker 1: got seven's on the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah makes sense. Germa had a really good day. I
Speaker 2: think she again proved how how great she is at
Speaker 2: this sport.
Speaker 1: Yes, and is always top of the l or when
Speaker 1: it comes to the soccer for us PO DS MVPs,
Speaker 1: so you always it's Gnomi Girma and then it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about everybody else. Yeah, all right, So forwards
Speaker 1: midfield Roosevelt gets a five, Sam Coffee gets a six,
Speaker 1: Lindsay Horan got a four. T LH says a somewhat
Speaker 1: anonymous performance for captain Lindsay Horan, who continues to struggle
Speaker 1: to find the passing tempo needed, timing of late runs
Speaker 1: or the box threat took more shots three than any
Speaker 1: other player, but they were all rather poor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 9: Fair assessment of her. I thought Coffee was really darn
Speaker 9: good this game, though. I thought Rose had a really
Speaker 9: good game, with a couple of good recoveries, ball recoveries,
Speaker 9: especially higher up the field, which is kind of what
Speaker 9: I think Hayes realizes is going to be necessary for
Speaker 9: this team to truly generate a lot of chances, especially
Speaker 9: without triple Espresso. But when you get those three in there,
Speaker 9: getting me the ball, ball recover high up the field
Speaker 9: are going to be great ways to get those players
Speaker 9: into attack. So I thought Rhodes had a pretty good game.
Speaker 9: I don't think Lindsay was a four, but I would
Speaker 9: also have rated all the midfielders a slightly higher rating.
Speaker 1: So Lavelle quiet in the first half, looked impressive. After
Speaker 1: the break when Yasmine Ryan came off the bench, Ryan's
Speaker 1: pension for underlapping allowed Lavell to drive forward get into
Speaker 1: the box. Just one shot off target for Levell on
Speaker 1: an outing where she passed better than she.
Speaker 2: Attacked, and that well, I'm sure we'll get to her quickly.
Speaker 9: But Yasmin Ryan is the one player you should talk
Speaker 9: about after this game.
Speaker 1: Forwards, Emma Seares gets a four. Lynn Williams gets a five,
Speaker 1: Alissa Thompson gets a six. Let's see, so she speedster.
Speaker 9: I want to take a beat on Thompson. Sorry, go
Speaker 9: for This was a great game for Alyssa Thompson, not
Speaker 9: because she played great, but you know who she's going
Speaker 9: up against, John See Brons and I don't know if
Speaker 9: you know this, She's she's an elite I have heard player,
Speaker 9: I have heard, and I think for Alyssa this was
Speaker 9: a great chance to see what it takes to be
Speaker 9: the best. I mean Lucy Bron's's top ten player period,
Speaker 9: you know, as a right back, and that battle all game.
Speaker 9: I think Bronze absolutely got the better of Thompson for
Speaker 9: the most part. But I think that is a great
Speaker 9: learning game for a very young Alissa Thompson to again
Speaker 9: understand what it takes for her, which it's going to
Speaker 9: take for her to level up.
Speaker 1: Could have had the opening goal after five minutes when
Speaker 1: she picked up a Seares pass, took a touch, powerful
Speaker 1: shot the corner. IRPs pulls off a good save to
Speaker 1: keep it goalless. After the break, Thompson faded. Both her
Speaker 1: and Williams removed in the seventy third as it started
Speaker 1: to feel like the USA had stagnated going forward. Lynn
Speaker 1: Williams had almost twice as many caps coming in seventy three.
Speaker 1: Then all the other US forwards on the squad, combined
Speaker 1: to her credit passage in the first half, stopped to
Speaker 1: counter attack and its tracks at the half way line.
Speaker 1: Remains an elite presser and counterpresser, perhaps not the box
Speaker 1: threat needed in this game.
Speaker 2: Well correct, that was always gonna be.
Speaker 9: The problem is Lynn Williams is not a true nine
Speaker 9: and she doesn't really have the skills to be a
Speaker 9: false nine. That's not her game and it kind of
Speaker 9: showed the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yasmine Ryan, there were three paragraphs written by tlh a's
Speaker 1: Soccer America about Yasmine Ryan. Why were there three paragraphs
Speaker 1: written about the Gotham FC player.
Speaker 2: Well, I think first off, we didn't see a whole lot.
Speaker 9: From her in the October camp. Part of that is
Speaker 9: just because she that was her first time playing for
Speaker 9: the national team. But she came in and changed the game.
Speaker 9: I mean, you talked about a little bit of a
Speaker 9: lull happening midway through that second half, she came in
Speaker 9: and provided not just a spark, but an actual outlet
Speaker 9: for attack. She was making runs in behind, she was
Speaker 9: getting the ball at her feet and trying to take
Speaker 9: on players. It was a really good game for me,
Speaker 9: as mean Ryan to the point where you go, oh,
Speaker 9: this is a woman who after one camp, got her confidence.
Speaker 9: Because sometimes that first national team camp you come in
Speaker 9: and you're just brimming with confidence. You're overflowing with it
Speaker 9: because you're like, Oh, I got a call up, you know, finally,
Speaker 9: and that's great. But sometimes it can also be the
Speaker 9: opposite where you're like, oh, man, it's my first camp.
Speaker 9: I gotta be perfect. I gotta do this, I gotta
Speaker 9: do that. So, for example, Emma Sears, I think her
Speaker 9: first camp was great because she just kind of played
Speaker 9: the way she always has. I think he has me
Speaker 9: and Ryan now figured out how do I play within
Speaker 9: the system, how do I use my skill set to
Speaker 9: play within this system? Because she's very good on the ball.
Speaker 9: She's basically a midfielder who plays out on the wing,
Speaker 9: and I think she was able to do that a
Speaker 9: lot when she came into this game.
Speaker 1: Third ever cap, multiple slip passes across face goal should
Speaker 1: have been finished off cross forced Irp's offer line. You
Speaker 1: needed to be punched away. Also had the shot that
Speaker 1: almost won the penalty, but then it was reversed by
Speaker 1: var balance made it very hard for England defenders to
Speaker 1: guess which way she would go.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: Her switching wings during the match to increase in low
Speaker 1: brought out the best in level hoped to make and
Speaker 1: helped make the field feel bigger. If I could speak
Speaker 1: English goodly on a Monday.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the point about Levell is very important
Speaker 9: because I think Rosevela is best, but she has some
Speaker 9: wingers that she can combine with.
Speaker 2: Both Rose and Lindsay aren't exactly positionally sound, which is
Speaker 2: a fine thing.
Speaker 9: They're very good at what they do and so Leavell
Speaker 9: being able to play off yasmin Ryan on either side
Speaker 9: was really fun to watch. It really important for this
Speaker 9: team going forward because that is the most similar to
Speaker 9: what we're going to see from be it Swanson or
Speaker 9: Rodman or even Smith. I mean, they're going to interchange
Speaker 9: a lot because they're all good on it wherever they
Speaker 9: happen to be on the field. So Yasmin Ryan being
Speaker 9: able to do that is a good plug in for
Speaker 9: those players when they're gone.
Speaker 1: Jayden Shaw got a five Corbra and Albert got a five.
Speaker 1: Valley Centiner becomes the eighth different player twenty one years
Speaker 1: old or younger to appear for the USA and twenty
Speaker 1: four or the most in a calendar year. Since what year, sir?
Speaker 2: Well? Can I can I get a hint?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 9: Two thousands? It ain't recent, Probably ninety eighty nine or
Speaker 9: ninety Well, well, okay, I should have said twenty first century.
Speaker 9: But aw oh, twenty first century, twenty first century, but
Speaker 9: it ain't reach.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and nine, two thousand and two tally include
Speaker 2: or the twenty twenty three World Cup.
Speaker 1: Including Heather O'Reilly, Hope, Solo, Ali Wagner, a'bi wombat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight different player twenty one years old or younger
Speaker 1: to appear for the USA in twenty Yeah.
Speaker 9: I always feel I forget that that that was the
Speaker 9: start of the Hope Solo, Abby Womback transition because I
Speaker 9: always still think that the ninety nine ers are still
Speaker 9: all part of that team, and they weren't part of
Speaker 9: the twenty two thousand and three World Cup.
Speaker 1: It's correct, Yeah, A still undefeated record with the national
Speaker 1: team now fourteen oh to two, second time the USA
Speaker 1: has failed to win since ma Hayes became head coach
Speaker 1: in June. The other was a goalless draw against coach Rica.
Speaker 2: Yeah did they really that?
Speaker 1: Uh so you had you had the subs yellow cards,
Speaker 1: Coffee got one, Kelly got one at ninety plus four.
Speaker 1: It was a finish crew f I n n I
Speaker 1: s Yeah. Le Tavada was the ref in the middle.
Speaker 1: Havan and Paavoen were your ars, Satuminen was your fourth,
Speaker 1: Anti Munuka was your VR and your aba R was
Speaker 1: you can hunkn it. I just like I just like
Speaker 1: saying finish last names as we go through here. Shots
Speaker 1: on the day us A ten to four shots on target,
Speaker 1: three to one air go more saves for England three
Speaker 1: to one, six six corners compared to three twelve fouls
Speaker 1: called in the match seven on England, three off sides
Speaker 1: two for England. Position possession fifty four to forty six.
Speaker 1: Woopy blank and do. USA was off to the Hague
Speaker 1: and they're going to face off against the Netherlands and
Speaker 1: their last matchup twenty twenty four tomorrow at two forty
Speaker 1: five Eastern time.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought if I thought the referee had an
Speaker 9: interesting game.
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, so police proceed sir, with your There were
Speaker 8: a couple of times that well, first off, in like
Speaker 8: the first ten minutes, Lindsey Horand gets absolutely stomped on
Speaker 8: and no foul called.
Speaker 9: And I thought Haran had a couple of times where
Speaker 9: she got fouled and ref didn't do anything about it.
Speaker 9: But the penalty kick was probably the most controversial and
Speaker 9: most important part of the match. I think when it
Speaker 9: first happened, we all were like, that didn't look like
Speaker 9: in a handball, you know, and the fact that she
Speaker 9: gave it was a little I understand why she pointed
Speaker 9: to the spot, but it was very clear upon review
Speaker 9: that it was it should not have been given at
Speaker 9: all for multiple reasons.
Speaker 2: Mainly it didn't hit the non.
Speaker 9: Playable part the body, and also you know, it hit
Speaker 9: her thigh and then bounced up, so that was probably
Speaker 9: a bad decision to begin with.
Speaker 1: Okay. Two instances of refing down here that I wanted
Speaker 1: to get into, both from the Premier League this week.
Speaker 9: All right, Yeah, we never have refing issues in the
Speaker 9: Premier League, Johnny.
Speaker 1: No, we never do. And one has to do with
Speaker 1: a VAR check of four minutes and twenty seven seconds
Speaker 1: bright in Southampton and the VR eventual decision.
Speaker 9: Four minutes it ended like twenty seven to two. Why
Speaker 9: did we have that long of a.
Speaker 1: V VR check, big check to see if the goal
Speaker 1: that was the wrong one I was watching that was
Speaker 1: Switch Southampton. So this and once again what we do
Speaker 1: for references. We go to our buddy Dale Johnson who
Speaker 1: does a fantastic job of looking at the moments from
Speaker 1: the weekend in the prem that we look at here
Speaker 1: on Mondays and we just pull a couple of them
Speaker 1: unless there's something else from another match that really just
Speaker 1: raises our hair on our collective neck. So now Brighton
Speaker 1: Southampton Southampton thought they had a two to one lead
Speaker 1: and Saints players go off to celebrate a delay of
Speaker 1: about thirty seconds before ref's allow The onfield officials allowed
Speaker 1: to disallow the goal for an offside VAR checked to
Speaker 1: see if the goal could be awarded. They eventually wipe
Speaker 1: the goal off the board. Now, Dale Johnson says it's
Speaker 1: a decision which can be explained in law, but it
Speaker 1: took far too long, makes the decision seem worse than otherwise.
Speaker 1: Might have ref and his ar deemed that by flicking
Speaker 1: at the ball, Armstrong makes an obvious action which clearly
Speaker 1: impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball,
Speaker 1: and in that case the opponent was the keeper for
Speaker 1: Brighton bart ver Brugen. For Brugen's on his line didn't move,
Speaker 1: so how can he be impacted. The law intends to
Speaker 1: prevent an offside player doing something which affects an opponent.
Speaker 1: It could be, you know, kicking the ball dummy. We'll
Speaker 1: think of it this way, an act which, if not present,
Speaker 1: might result in the opponent taking a different decision. For
Speaker 1: Brugen cannot move from his position at the near post
Speaker 1: as the cross from Ryan Fraser goes close. No possible
Speaker 1: offense from Armstrong until he flicked his leg out. The
Speaker 1: law also says you don't have to think that Armstrong
Speaker 1: can score or even get a shot on target, only
Speaker 1: that the obvious action has an impact. So could Verbrugen
Speaker 1: could have moved over to the center of goal to
Speaker 1: archer sooner. The law does not demand that the keeper
Speaker 1: has been stopped for making a save, only that his
Speaker 1: ability to do so has been impacted.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, yeah, I mean I think they got
Speaker 9: this right.
Speaker 2: I do think that these types of offside.
Speaker 9: Ruling should take a little bit longer because you want
Speaker 9: to make sure you are interpreting all that.
Speaker 2: That you just said correctly.
Speaker 9: Of interfering with active play, that's the rule, right, if
Speaker 9: you are involved or interfere with active play, you're going
Speaker 9: to be considered offside. And in this particular moment, the
Speaker 9: lead striker where a ball literally runs right through his
Speaker 9: legs and it kind of basically looks like it just
Speaker 9: goes right through his legs and he's in an offside
Speaker 9: position or at least goes slightly behind him, but he
Speaker 9: does make an action that that to me is absolutely
Speaker 9: enough to call him off side because he's he's trying
Speaker 9: to get he is trying to involve himself an active play.
Speaker 2: It's not about touching. He made a.
Speaker 9: Play on a ball from an offside position that has
Speaker 9: definitely interfered with the goalkeeper's ability to make a play
Speaker 9: on the ball period. I think again, as the writer
Speaker 9: points out, got it correct, I do think that the
Speaker 9: time it took to get this correct is a problem.
Speaker 2: And that's where I do wish that from what I remember,
Speaker 2: the referee never went to the monitor for.
Speaker 1: This, I don't think so.
Speaker 9: I think this is the type of play where the
Speaker 9: referee should go to the monitor. It should be a
Speaker 9: very quick like, hey, he's in an offside position. We
Speaker 9: want you to make sure that you think that he's
Speaker 9: not interfering with play, or if he is interfering with play,
Speaker 9: let the on field official.
Speaker 2: Make that decision.
Speaker 9: Again, I think the problem with the Premier League is
Speaker 9: the center referee very rarely does go to the monitor,
Speaker 9: and I think they should empower them to do that,
Speaker 9: but they keep giving someone else who's not involved in
Speaker 9: the game at all more power than they should.
Speaker 1: Three minutes and twenty three seconds to determine if the
Speaker 1: action was interrupted, and then another minute and four seconds
Speaker 1: to check on the off side.
Speaker 9: Which the off side was pretty to me. The offside
Speaker 9: was pretty clear. The player was offside, you know, and
Speaker 9: so where I would be looking at it. And this
Speaker 9: is why, again I don't understand why when you watch
Speaker 9: it originally you should be checking for an offside. The
Speaker 9: goal scorer was not offside, okay, fine, but when you
Speaker 9: looked at it immediately that patch, you go, oh, that
Speaker 9: dude is offside, like he is in an off side
Speaker 9: position very clearly, and in fact, the goal scorer was
Speaker 9: darn close to being offside in his own right. So
Speaker 9: that's where I'm going. Okay, is very clear that there's
Speaker 9: an offside question. Yeah, the goal scorer may have been
Speaker 9: on side. Okay, fine, check that off. Fine, but then
Speaker 9: you have to go, well, this player was in an
Speaker 9: offside position.
Speaker 2: Roll the tape.
Speaker 9: Oh, that looks like it could be a problem. Hey,
Speaker 9: I forget who the center referee was, but hey, John,
Speaker 9: go go to the monitor. See if you think that
Speaker 9: this was interfering with active play the goalkeeper's ability to make.
Speaker 2: A play on the ball. And good job that.
Speaker 9: I'm not saying it would have taken less time. But
Speaker 9: I think the problem is when you're just have the
Speaker 9: center referee standing there almost twiddling his thumbs waiting for
Speaker 9: you know, putting his hand up to his ear, going
Speaker 9: oh I'm checking, they're checking. It just seems so passive
Speaker 9: versus a referee going to a monitor to go look
Speaker 9: at it, to say, okay, what do I think happened here,
Speaker 9: especially when in this case it was very clear the
Speaker 9: player was offside. This is not about MLS telling them
Speaker 9: to go to a monitor to maybe determine if they're
Speaker 9: offside or on side. We know they are because the
Speaker 9: primary league has that technology. So then for me, the
Speaker 9: next step should be on field official needs to look
Speaker 9: at the play to determine if this was offside or not.
Speaker 1: All right, and so if you go if you work backwards,
Speaker 1: let's just say you work backwards, even if you don't
Speaker 1: go to the monitor. The off side decision was a
Speaker 1: minute four That should have been the easiest one. To
Speaker 1: sit there and go yes, no, it's like ding ding
Speaker 1: ding boom, and then you move on and then working backwards.
Speaker 1: It would not have taken four minutes and twenty seven
Speaker 1: seconds to come up with a decision A. If you
Speaker 1: go to the monitor and take a peek with me.
Speaker 1: B maybe if you work backwards and go okay offside
Speaker 1: not offside? Okay, ding ding ding, We got that taken
Speaker 1: care of. It takes what fifteen twenty seconds? And then
Speaker 1: you go when you focus on the other three and
Speaker 1: a half minutes, it's get something done with two acts.
Speaker 9: I think to have that action take three and a
Speaker 9: half minutes to review his.
Speaker 2: Crazy Honestly, go to.
Speaker 1: The monitor, people, it ain't it's just look, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna hurt my feelings if you go to the monitor,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to think less of you, of an individual,
Speaker 1: if you go to the monitor.
Speaker 9: And again, then it puts that hand the decision making
Speaker 9: in the hands of the on field official, which is
Speaker 9: I think what most people would be more comfortable with.
Speaker 1: Yep. Item number two comes from Liverpool Manchester City and
Speaker 1: it's the Ortega penalty call. As he goes and he
Speaker 1: chases after this one, and this is an important point
Speaker 1: that needs to be made in these kinds of situations
Speaker 1: where I know that there was hue and cry, and
Speaker 1: there was quite a hue and quite a cry about
Speaker 1: it being nothing there because Ortega was making a play
Speaker 1: for the ball and it looked like Diaz just basically
Speaker 1: fell over Ortega and you get the penalty call. So
Speaker 1: Luis Diaz chasing after a loose ball Stephan Ortega is
Speaker 1: first to get to the ball, but then Luis Diaz,
Speaker 1: who is second, ends up making contact with Ortega. As
Speaker 1: Ortega is stretching to make contact, Luis Diaz goes over
Speaker 1: the top of Ortega and it is called a penalty.
Speaker 1: It is then reviewed. The penalty stands. So was there
Speaker 1: a case for offside? Was there a case for a
Speaker 1: red on Ortega? And was this even a penalty or
Speaker 1: was Louis Diaz kind of sitting there and fishing for
Speaker 1: a call? So this is what we're staring at in
Speaker 1: this particular instant. Yeah, so a lot. There's a lot
Speaker 1: to unpack here. And if you want to go through
Speaker 1: it in real time or instance to instance to instance
Speaker 1: instead of staring at it from thirty thousand feet and
Speaker 1: you want to walk through the play, go ahead and
Speaker 1: walk through the play as you see it.
Speaker 9: Well, So this is where I understand it's tough because
Speaker 9: most people are going to say or take a oh,
Speaker 9: well he gets the ball, or some level of that
Speaker 9: type of commentary. Right, I just want to reiterate that
Speaker 9: winning the ball as a defender does.
Speaker 2: Not mean that you are.
Speaker 9: Excused from making a foul. And I think that's the
Speaker 9: problem here is you can argue that in this case,
Speaker 9: the goalkeeper is their first Yeah, I think you can.
Speaker 9: But did they get the ball? And that's the question.
Speaker 9: I I don't know, John. This is the tough one
Speaker 9: because I get the point, but because there's very minimal contact.
Speaker 9: But the reality is the goalkeeper doesn't touch the ball. Right,
Speaker 9: he doesn't.
Speaker 2: He may get to the place first, but he.
Speaker 9: Doesn't touch the ball, so the attacker having to jump
Speaker 9: over them.
Speaker 1: He doesn't. The attacker is the attacker does not have
Speaker 1: to take evasive action.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to.
Speaker 9: He could have just ran over or ran through him,
Speaker 9: you know. And then we're talking about having a fight
Speaker 9: because someone's mad about that him running into the goalkeeper,
Speaker 9: and so to me is like, well, he at least
Speaker 9: tried to avoid him. Yeah, do I think he was
Speaker 9: probably I don't even know, you know, I don't think
Speaker 9: he was looking for a foul that bad thing. Anyway, Again,
Speaker 9: he didn't really drag his feet. He tried to ship
Speaker 9: with the goalkeeper and go overrom because he knew he
Speaker 9: could probably score from there. And again I think the
Speaker 9: goalkeeper gets the spot first. I don't know if he
Speaker 9: gets any of the ball, but he doesn't intentionally get
Speaker 9: the player. But he's in the path of the player
Speaker 9: to get to the ball and he's not in a
Speaker 9: position to play it at that point in time. And
Speaker 9: that is the problem with the goalkeeper when they go
Speaker 9: to the ground like that specifically, or any defender when
Speaker 9: they go to the ground once you have committed to
Speaker 9: the ground to winning that ball. Well you're no longer
Speaker 9: in consideration for playing that ball once it goes past you,
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. So it's hard for me
Speaker 9: to say like, oh, they're within playable distance. Now, It's like, well,
Speaker 9: the ball is behind them and they're laying on the ground,
Speaker 9: so what is playing? What is a playable distance at
Speaker 9: that point? I think eventually the I think this is
Speaker 9: probably the correct call. But this goes to one of
Speaker 9: those like, yeah, it's a foul, but it should it
Speaker 9: be a penalty kick.
Speaker 1: As it is class Yeah, that's the problem, a promising
Speaker 1: attack on a penalty rather than dogs no yellow card.
Speaker 9: Okay, so yeah, this is not dog so because there's
Speaker 9: a legitimate play on the ball, right, I mean, as
Speaker 9: as simple as that, right, I mean, he is absolutely
Speaker 9: the last of vendor.
Speaker 2: Is absolutely a dog so thing.
Speaker 9: But because I mean, I think it's fair to say
Speaker 9: this goalkeeper was making he wasn't trying to file the player.
Speaker 9: He was trying to the ball. He just didn't, right,
Speaker 9: I mean, I I don't even think he like reached
Speaker 9: out and tried to grab him.
Speaker 1: From what I can tell, you know, he's thinking ball first,
Speaker 1: and whatever happens happened.
Speaker 9: And so when we when we classified this as dogs,
Speaker 9: it's probably dogs so yellows maybe what they called it
Speaker 9: versus stopping a promising attack. But regardless, this outcome is
Speaker 9: because we this is not a red card because there
Speaker 9: was a legitimate play on the ball in the penalty area.
Speaker 9: We don't want to give teams both a red card
Speaker 9: and a penalty kick aka a goal down. You know,
Speaker 9: that's where we are now. At the same time, you know,
Speaker 9: I know it's it's unfair to call any penalties against
Speaker 9: Manchester City that somehow so sure you know those checks
Speaker 9: stopped clearing all of a sudden, I think is what happened.
Speaker 9: But yeah, that is just not a dog so red
Speaker 9: because there is a legit this is a legitimate play
Speaker 9: to win the ball.
Speaker 2: He just doesn't.
Speaker 9: And again even if he had gotten a piece of it,
Speaker 9: he still comes through and clears out the attacker. Again,
Speaker 9: winning the ball does not preclude you from fouling someone.
Speaker 1: All right, So what's going on with the soccer for
Speaker 1: us PO? D are you waiting for the next match?
Speaker 9: The match tomorrow, which is as you mentioned in didn't
Speaker 9: hug against Netherlands? And we will be recording for the
Speaker 9: episode after that later this week, maybe trying to get
Speaker 9: some different voices on here.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they respond and say they.
Speaker 1: Can do it.
Speaker 2: And kind of the it for actual matches.
Speaker 9: This the final US Soccer match of the season is
Speaker 9: is tomorrow, and then we'll be having some kind of
Speaker 9: year in review and twenty twenty five look forwards always
Speaker 9: like to do.
Speaker 1: Those, like.
Speaker 9: Resolutions for US Soccer will come up in the new year,
Speaker 9: but we'll also have some of our our our favorite
Speaker 9: moments of twenty twenty four coming out right before Christmas,
Speaker 9: and I'm sure doing some other things for the festive
Speaker 9: not festive fixtures, the festive what's the word we want
Speaker 9: to the festive foolishness that does during the holiday weeks
Speaker 9: and all.
Speaker 1: That absolutely what do you want to call it?
Speaker 2: Well, it's just holiday llao.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Yeah. So the yeah, the the
Speaker 1: shenanigans that we have during December as we get ready shenanigans,
Speaker 1: yeah yes, yeah, the Holida hullabaloo and the seasonal shenanigans
Speaker 1: where we where we try to pronounce finish uh yeah,
Speaker 1: finish referee cruise as best we can. Uh yes, we're
Speaker 1: looking forward to episode CV where you do not where
Speaker 1: you do not have to put up your resume, but
Speaker 1: you'll be looking at the US May after a full
Speaker 1: season of twenty twenty four. We will be catching up
Speaker 1: with you obviously again next week and whenever the hell
Speaker 1: you want to come drop by and vent about West
Speaker 1: By God Virginia and anything else going on in Bowl season.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, don we do have a Minimalist Cup
Speaker 9: final coming up this Saturday, so I must I will.
Speaker 9: I will say I will not be able to watch
Speaker 9: it live. I'll be at a Casey Musk Graves concert
Speaker 9: and so I'm doing two nights in a row with her.
Speaker 9: But I will be watching it on Sunday on my
Speaker 9: drive home.
Speaker 1: I assume someone else will be driving while you're watching.
Speaker 2: On my ride home, I should say checking and we'll
Speaker 2: be ready.
Speaker 9: I'm sure John, we will have to talk about referee
Speaker 9: wise on my whole Yes, of course I do have
Speaker 9: to say, John, Ricky Puig whatever with the strained, torn, torn,
Speaker 9: house severed, acl torn, insane, that he's still able to
Speaker 9: play that and play as I mean, that is for him,
Speaker 9: but that is a huge loss for Galaxy going to
Speaker 9: this match. I don't know if it changes like that.
Speaker 9: I still think they're the favorite, but man, that's cool.
Speaker 9: Also shout out to some women's soccer history. This will
Speaker 9: be the first MLS Cup final, another MLS Cup Final,
Speaker 9: as you say.
Speaker 2: Hosted in a World Cup final stadium. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: There you go, But no, definitely going to be looking
Speaker 1: at it all week long and trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what's going on. Jay Intlick, head coach for Columbus State,
Speaker 1: it's going to be joining us on the women, for
Speaker 1: the women as they continue to advance. He's going to
Speaker 1: be joining us tomorrow morning at nine thirty to break
Speaker 1: down what happened on the weekend and talk from some
Speaker 1: Division two women's soccer as well.
Speaker 2: We had Division one soccer up the Sea this weekend.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're going to be taking dives into
Speaker 1: college soccer and going through all that stuff. So we
Speaker 1: will be enjoying episode CV. My friend coming out later
Speaker 1: on this week. Once again, whenever you want to drop in,
Speaker 1: drop in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cheers y'all.
Speaker 1: There he goes, So what's the mug by the way,
Speaker 1: I forgot to ask.
Speaker 9: It, just as happy holidays because today is the first. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's the first day that I've seen you of the
Speaker 9: Christmas season.
Speaker 1: So okay, and so this is when everybody starts hanging
Speaker 1: up all of their stuff. Nice.
Speaker 2: Well I can't see, but my stuff is starting to
Speaker 2: go up. Okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we got we got the tree yesterday and
Speaker 1: we're waiting for the tree to flu before we add
Speaker 1: all of the appropriate Yeah, my tree will.
Speaker 2: Be going up today and tomorrow probably.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, be good, my friend. We'll see you soon,
Speaker 1: by y'all. All right, there goes Bart and uh yeah, Derek,
Speaker 1: incredulous player, what I got the ball? Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: also broke the player's ankle, I know, so all right,
Speaker 1: so yeah, we just got that. As I was trying
Speaker 1: to well, Bart was discussing things. Jayant, like the head
Speaker 1: coach at the Columbus State number two ranked team and
Speaker 1: Division two on the women's side, they're going to be
Speaker 1: joining he's going to be joining us tomorrow morning at
Speaker 1: nine thirty to discuss the week and the week that
Speaker 1: will be as they're chasing after a national championship. So
Speaker 1: good stuff there, all right, So let me go back
Speaker 1: and go back into the article. Yes, Tim Muselni and
Speaker 1: Miku Koivu don't forget Saku Koevu, Will and all of
Speaker 1: the other famous Finns. I want to go back to
Speaker 1: the article that Rich brought in to the timeline this morning.
Speaker 1: There is some other things that we do have to
Speaker 1: break down, and it's from our friends in Sportico so
Speaker 1: Lega MX teams to vote on a formal investment from
Speaker 1: Apollo and the NFL, and Lina MX does need the investment,
Speaker 1: I will say that. From our friends at Sportico Lega
Speaker 1: MX says it's reached a formal agreement on an investment
Speaker 1: from Apollo Global Management and the National Football League, pending
Speaker 1: a vote of approval from all eighteen teams to pull
Speaker 1: some of the league's commercial rights. I don't know how
Speaker 1: that's gonna work, because there have been for as long
Speaker 1: as folks can remember, the teams had their individual TV deals.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's gonna work out well. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't know if say Krusas Sul
Speaker 1: is going to like to share revenue with UH with Juarez,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna like that. Letters sent
Speaker 1: to owners on Friday, copy of which viewed by Sportico
Speaker 1: Lega MX president to Wan Carlos Rodriguez outline the agreement,
Speaker 1: which could be quote the largest transformation project end quote
Speaker 1: in history of Mexican football, the result of months in
Speaker 1: negotiation that started with a billion and a quarter dollar
Speaker 1: influx of capital from Apollo. Maayles has been advising the
Speaker 1: league and its talks with prospective investors. Agreement would give
Speaker 1: Lega MX more capital, stronger corporate governance, and a reorganization
Speaker 1: of the soccer pyramid in the country. The letter says,
Speaker 1: also includes the creation of an entity, La Commercializadora commerci
Speaker 1: Ali Zadora to house grouped commercial rights such as sponsorships
Speaker 1: and media deals. Perhaps most notably, the letter mentions participation
Speaker 1: in the investment by the National Football League and also
Speaker 1: talks with Major League Soccer about an expansion of their
Speaker 1: ongoing partnership and a possible League's Cup two point zero
Speaker 1: starting in twenty twenty seven. Lega MX clubs will have
Speaker 1: access to the deal points this week, the letter says,
Speaker 1: meetings later in the month with the goal of securing votes.
Speaker 1: Letter doesn't share specific financial details. Rodriguez did immediately respond
Speaker 1: to an email seeking comment. Representatives for NFL and molest
Speaker 1: declined immediate comment. Reps for Apollo and Maelis did not
Speaker 1: respond to an email seeking comment. So I ain't nobody talking.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing until the vote happens, and it's either Yate
Speaker 1: or Naid, We're not going to find out much. Apollo
Speaker 1: two years ago, prepping that that investment offered a Legia
Speaker 1: MX Sportico reported at the time that the firm was
Speaker 1: seeking twenty percent of the profits from the league's non
Speaker 1: Mexican media rights over the next fifty years, a bet
Speaker 1: that the most watched soccer league in the United States
Speaker 1: has significant commercial growth and its future beyond its home
Speaker 1: country offer contingent upon the clubs agreeing to sell their
Speaker 1: broadcast rights as a whole, and that's what we just
Speaker 1: talked about. Unlike most leagues, LEGAMX currently allows individual teams
Speaker 1: to ink their own commercial partnerships Chievas Club Amedica signing
Speaker 1: deals in the US, which has more than thirty six
Speaker 1: million people, because remember Chievas and Chievas I believe is
Speaker 1: Telemundo and Club America, I believe is Telemundo if if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, and last year, Leaga MX clubs had
Speaker 1: deals with five different broadcasters domestically four in the US,
Speaker 1: one of the most story teams. Clubamedica is owned by Televisa.
Speaker 1: Unclear how the financial terms offer changed in the years
Speaker 1: of negotiations followed on so unclear how likely it is
Speaker 1: that the richer Lega MX teams agree to a significant overhaul, because,
Speaker 1: like I said once again, if you want to try
Speaker 1: to get everything, why would why, I feel like Ross
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, why why why why would Club America?
Speaker 1: Why would achieve US? I mean, te Luca I believe
Speaker 1: has to deal specifically with Tudani and Santos Laguna I
Speaker 1: believe has one at least domestically with Fox Deporte's. Why
Speaker 1: would these clubs specifically like achieve US and Club America,
Speaker 1: Why would they Why? Why would they sit there and go,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think that I'm going to give
Speaker 1: up some of my I'm going to give up some
Speaker 1: of my my own rights, so everybody is just going
Speaker 1: to share. Why why if, if, why would I take
Speaker 1: less money to help out other folks? If you view
Speaker 1: the glass as the glass, you may understand that idea
Speaker 1: and more maybe maybe more money on the back end,
Speaker 1: as Rich says, you know, in theory, if that was
Speaker 1: to be the case, but in the short term, why
Speaker 1: would I sit there and negotiate on the whole unless
Speaker 1: you get Unless you get the teams that have those
Speaker 1: larger TV deals, you get them in line. Hey, this
Speaker 1: is for the betterment of the league. We can reinstitute
Speaker 1: promotion relegation with the League of Desenzo. And that One
Speaker 1: of the silliest things for me in the years past
Speaker 1: where involving Lega MX teams was that if you did
Speaker 1: not make the playoffs, you got fined for not making
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and the wors your team did, the more
Speaker 1: you got fined. Where is the incentive other than so
Speaker 1: the incentive by the league is that you better spend
Speaker 1: money if you don't spend it well, if you spend
Speaker 1: a lot of money and you still end up being
Speaker 1: bottom three or bottom four, let's say you finished last.
Speaker 1: If you spend money and you still finish last, hey,
Speaker 1: that should say something about uh, your front office. Then
Speaker 1: you continue to spend more money and invest more money
Speaker 1: after bad so after the Klaus Sura just as an I.
Speaker 1: This is once again from as from As In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three May first trio of Lega MX clubs are
Speaker 1: to pay performance related find yous to support teams in
Speaker 1: the league to expense you on. I get that just
Speaker 1: in general. I get it, But why why do that?
Speaker 1: You know? And the the uh, the fines that are there.
Speaker 1: It is literally for more then it would be otherwise.
Speaker 1: Oh great, now that that AS is up. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so you go to an article from AS and it
Speaker 1: just locks everything up. Good job, All right, we might
Speaker 1: be back. I think we might be back, at least
Speaker 1: on the hard line. Anyway, it's eleven oh two. I'm
Speaker 1: going to go ahead and apologize ahead of time and
Speaker 1: just say we'll be back tomorrow. Yeah, thank you, Abby,
Speaker 1: We're going to be back tomorrow. Jayant licked the head
Speaker 1: coach of Columbus State at nine point thirty, and then
Speaker 1: we got the rest of the show that we didn't
Speaker 1: get to talk about today and all the other things
Speaker 1: that are going on in and around the world. So
Speaker 1: thanks a lot for hanging out through the dead air.
Speaker 1: You're here, we're here, so once again, all right, so
Speaker 1: let me do this. Let's do gossip broberan inn window
Speaker 1: and then we'll we'll hang it up and we'll do
Speaker 1: it again tomorrow. So for some reason, the camera on
Speaker 1: and I don't know why I might just have to
Speaker 1: reset the whole fricking thing. So here we go. We'll
Speaker 1: do gossip rumeran in you window, what to watch, where
Speaker 1: to watch it, how to watch it, and then we'll
Speaker 1: get out of here and then we'll do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So I'm staring at other computers that you know, ISDN
Speaker 1: lines and everything, and it ain't working. So who knows
Speaker 1: what's going on? But anyway, gossip rumor, inn window, where
Speaker 1: to go, what to do? All right? So PSG apparently
Speaker 1: is in talks with moss Law that's from Lekeep Arsenal, Liverpool,
Speaker 1: Chelsea Spurs monitoring U twenty one for Jamie Gittens over
Speaker 1: at Bruce Who Dortmann that's from Florid and plettenberget Sky, Germany,
Speaker 1: United Spurs BARSAP. PSG sent scouts to watch Omar Marmouse
Speaker 1: at Eintruck Frankfort and Europa League on Thursday, born with
Speaker 1: willing to consider offers for Antoine Semeno, who got the
Speaker 1: hat trick on the weekend. Liverpool among the clubs interested
Speaker 1: in the Ganaan forward. Arsenal in advanced talks with Rails
Speaker 1: sociate did over at Roberto Olabe to succeed him to
Speaker 1: succeed ad a sporting director. Born with Brentford Southampton eyeing
Speaker 1: Fabio Silva on lone at Los Palmas from Wolves Bournemouth.
Speaker 1: Uh sorry Liverpool. Yeah, born with Brentford Southampton eyeing Fabio
Speaker 1: Silva on lone front I Los Palmas from Wolves. Liverpool
Speaker 1: hope to beat Manchester United to the signing of Milosh
Speaker 1: Kirkkesh from Bournemouth forty million pounds. Newcastle willing to sound
Speaker 1: here in Tierney in January, I'll hall all set to
Speaker 1: rival Arsenal for the signing of Alberto Molero, twenty one
Speaker 1: year old winger. Lowton would have to pay as much
Speaker 1: as a million and a half pounds to sack Rob
Speaker 1: Edwards because of the four year deal he's signed in
Speaker 1: the summer. That's from the three letter paper. So now,
Speaker 1: all right, what to watch? Where to watch it, how
Speaker 1: to watch it. We'll get into that here in a
Speaker 1: sec and then we'll get out of here. Apparently there
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Speaker 1: Match AFC Champions League, has a Lakhlee and Esteclol at eleven,
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Speaker 1: al Nasra on Alsade. Paramount Plus also has the Syriatte
Speaker 1: two forty five Roma and Atalanta Argentine Premier five forty
Speaker 1: five to Sheriff' Quarterboat with a Cohn Independent at view,
Speaker 1: a Divilla Argentino Juniors at seven thirty Germany and Italy
Speaker 1: and a women's friendly is at two thirty. Now that's
Speaker 1: today tomorrow you got union rumors, Rich, you might have
Speaker 1: to uh, you might have to tell me what's going on.
Speaker 1: But Apparently silly season is underway. According to folks in
Speaker 1: the timeline and Tommy Goops and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Apparently Ian Harks has been dealt so Bogert, Tom Bogert, Oh, wow,
Speaker 1: he had his check mark taken away. Okay, San Jose
Speaker 1: have acquired Mark, Anthony K, Dave Romney and Ian Harks
Speaker 1: from the Revs. Revs get around five hundred thousand in
Speaker 1: GAM and an international roster spot. So that means that
Speaker 1: once again and not really a shock, that Bruce Arena
Speaker 1: would go to familiar places to try the rebuild. Mark
Speaker 1: Anthony K, Dave Romney, Ian Harks to San Jose from
Speaker 1: New England. Revs get five hundred thousand in GAM and
Speaker 1: an international roster spot. Also on the board, New England
Speaker 1: is signing Malli International center back Mama du Fofana from
Speaker 1: Amian Let keep first reporting it. Sources say the deals
Speaker 1: around at one point seven million dollars constant started for
Speaker 1: AMI in the last three and a half years, started
Speaker 1: with Molly as well. So yeah, and Ricky Pooh's playing
Speaker 1: thirty minutes with the torn Aco So that's what we know.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Okay striker leaving the team to Austria. Okay, so thank
Speaker 1: you Rich. Like I said, I'm staring at other computers
Speaker 1: and HDMIS and ICDN lines are down, so this is
Speaker 1: where I'm doing to wrap up what I'm doing to
Speaker 1: wrap up the show. We'll be back at it again
Speaker 1: tomorrow nine oh five. Hopefully I'll be able to see you,
Speaker 1: you'll be able to see me. We can talk, we'll
Speaker 1: go through stuff, that's the official term. So since we're
Speaker 1: here in a little less than twenty two enjoy cyber Monday.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that tomorrow and you can tell me
Speaker 1: how you were and how much shopping you have left
Speaker 1: to do. For everybody here at SDH, maybe we'll have
Speaker 1: lighting and power and be in the twenty first century tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Thanks for dropping by. We'll catch up with you soon.
Speaker 1: Play safe, everybody, since it is the end of the show,
Speaker 1: that means we get to do this