WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:07.679 Horizon Talk Radio online from the Highlands of Scotland. We 2 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:16.199 are voices from around the world, the best talk on 3 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:21.239 your number one talk radio station either Horizon Talk Radio. 4 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:28.800 Yeah, if everyone welcome. Today's guest is Tim Physically is 5 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:34.000 a hypnotist at Britain's Fastest Hypnotist. Dot com is his 6 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:41.119 website and Tim's here today to discuss hypnotism. Obviously I'll 7 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:43.320 tease him with the first question, but it's not so 8 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:47.399 much teasing him and welcome to show anyway. Tim, It's 9 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:52.000 more to do with my brain, you know, for why 10 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:55.240 can't you do that like that? And we'll explain so 11 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:59.159 Qush actually the other day and when I emailed you, Tim, 12 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:05.840 why can't you actually hypnotize? People live there? Because psychics 13 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:08.799 do stuff and other people do stuff. And I found 14 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:11.719 it interesting because it was very real, you know, and 15 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.159 it actually worked for me, not the hypnotist, but the 16 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:18.640 other stuff. I guess you've got laws. 17 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.719 Yeah, No, it's all to do with the peculiar laws 18 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.959 that surround hypnosis, which varies from country to country. In 19 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:32.239 some countries you can't even practist, you know, it's just illegal. 20 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.599 In this country. Fortunately, it's okay. We can do it, 21 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:40.840 but there is the laws on where you can and 22 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:47.840 cannot practice hypnosis a bit there's sort of strange and arcane, 23 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:50.079 and they go back a long way to I think 24 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:52.799 as a nineteen fifty three hypnotism actor was the first one, 25 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:56.040 but there's been various amendments to it since then. And 26 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.439 so you can't do something like a hypnotic and doctrine 27 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:01.359 on a on a live but well, I don't think 28 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:06.480 you can include it in a broadcast. There's there's just 29 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:08.360 rules about what you can and you can't do, and 30 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:10.280 it's one of the things you're not allowed to do. 31 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:14.400 So yeah, I was just thinking if I needed your help, 32 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:19.719 you know, and we'll go into the rapid deep hypnosis 33 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.280 in a bit. I'm just thinking, you know, I've found 34 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:26.000 it with my problem, and I've only got one option. 35 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:28.840 I can't visit you in a clinic where you could 36 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:31.360 take care of me if you know there was a 37 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.680 problem with what you did. But you know, I want 38 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:37.199 to do it over the phone line. I mean, technically 39 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:40.800 that's the same thing as being in front of an audience, 40 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:42.400 isn't It's still over the phone line. 41 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:47.960 No, it's not. It's about it like the way is 42 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.000 that the way the law works, it's to do with 43 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:54.199 it being broadcast to an audience, So. 44 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:55.719 No, you can't. 45 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:58.319 But there are there are big problems with doing hypnosis 46 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.879 sober the likes of phone on skull anyway, because really 47 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:10.879 from a sort of care of the client perspective, really 48 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:12.560 you need to be in the same rumors them because 49 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:16.479 you want to make sure they're okay. Things. If you're 50 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:20.439 doing things online, if you get a drop connection, obviously, 51 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.120 then you've gotten You've got no way of monitoring what's 52 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.520 going on. You've got no way of speaking to somebody, 53 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:27.919 and if they're in a deep state of hypnosis, what 54 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:31.719 are you going to do so it? Yeah, I think 55 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:37.240 there are some hypnotherapists who do do hypnosis online. I'm 56 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:42.280 not one of them, but and that's sort of the 57 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:46.639 reason why. It's because it's just not an ideal way 58 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:48.479 to go about it in case you get things like 59 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:49.759 a drop connection or whatever. 60 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:52.759 Yeah, yeah, because I mean I can just imagine that, 61 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:56.759 you know, and then the person, because of the way 62 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.280 they are a whole feeling, you can't get back to 63 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:04.840 them and hypanetize them. So that, yeah, that's why we 64 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.800 have laws obviously. Yeah, So I'll read a bit better 65 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:09.960 you bio out because I should have done that first. 66 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:15.360 Tim uses a rapid deep hypnosis and other fascinating tools 67 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.480 which will tell us about soon to end addictions, trauma, 68 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:24.079 fixed relationship problems, and change lives. You can see reviews 69 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:27.680 and video clips on his website, which again is Britain's 70 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:34.000 fastest hypnosis dot com. He's been featured in The Natural 71 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:40.680 Press Radio TV and it'll probably tell us that he 72 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:44.800 actually was involved in Area Grande concert with the h 73 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:51.000 therapy afterwards to the people of that. So yeah, I've 74 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:54.879 only just sort of read a brief But tell us 75 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:59.360 what is rapid then the rapid deep hypnosis. What's the 76 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:01.600 difference between the different techniques? 77 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:07.800 I guess okay, uh, well, the what I call rapid, 78 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:13.000 I would say, is probably about ninety seconds. Anything under 79 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:16.800 two minutes I think is rapid, and that's to get 80 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:22.360 the kind of state where you can elicit genuinely hypnotic phenomena. 81 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:26.560 And one of the things that I do. If anybody 82 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:29.759 goes to britains pasatipnatist dot com and looks at the 83 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:33.480 videos on there, what you notice is that the typically 84 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:37.319 with kids when they come to see me I'm doing 85 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:41.040 certain things before i start any work of therapeutic work. 86 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:43.839 I'm checking to make sure I've got the hypnotic statement 87 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:47.800 and that that we're well placed to do things that 88 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:51.639 are actually genuinely useful. So I like to stick people's 89 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:55.839 hands to their head, stick them to the chair, those 90 00:05:55.879 --> 00:06:00.079 sorts of things which you cannot do unless you've a 91 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:06.720 genuine hypnotic state. So and so, in terms of rapid 92 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:11.079 what I'm talking about is maybe sixty ninety seconds to 93 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:16.959 get to that from nothing. And that's a bit different 94 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:19.720 from the way most other hypnotherapists go about it, because 95 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:26.600 typically they will use sort of very slow relaxational inductions 96 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.360 for hypnosis and they can last twenty minutes, half an 97 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.839 hour before they get anywhere. So it's you know, it's 98 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:37.319 strikingly different. And one of the things that actually I 99 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.920 find interesting about it is clients seem to prefer it 100 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:46.519 that they like to know that, oh, actually this is hypnosis, 101 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:48.560 but this is not just relaxation, and it's one of 102 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.079 the reasons that I like to do that for them. 103 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:56.639 Yeah, it makes sense because if you wanted relaxation classes, 104 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.839 you would go somewhere they didn't. If you wanted it 105 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:05.240 affair for a Pacific cause, you know, whether it be 106 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:11.040 PDSD or other reasons. I think it's a bit like 107 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.439 having a job, because you'd want the job now, and 108 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.040 then you know, because I just want to be fixed. 109 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:18.639 I'm not here for them. I can relax when I 110 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.040 get home. You know, you want the fixed, an't you 111 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.720 kind of thing you want to try and get real problem? 112 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:28.800 Yeah, exactly. Sorry. And the the other thing that another 113 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.439 reason why I like to work that way is because 114 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:37.240 many people are not very good at relaxing. And you know, 115 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:40.519 if somebody's if somebody comes in and they're really stressed 116 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:45.879 out and feel intense and they're anxious about everything, asking 117 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:48.279 them to relax is not necessarily going to be the 118 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.240 easiest thing in the world. You know, if they could 119 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.560 relax easily, they wouldn't be coming to see you in 120 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:59.120 the first place. So there's there's various different aspects to it, 121 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:05.720 but there are really good reasons for doing things quickly. 122 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:09.279 But like I said, what really surprised me was when 123 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.839 I started working in that way, the clients actually sent 124 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:12.639 to for bu. 125 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:18.240 Yeah, I'm going to be skeptical now because you know, 126 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:23.480 that's what it's all about we're discussing the work of 127 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:29.480 a hypnotherapist. How does it actually work? Then? So you're 128 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.639 going to you know, I'm just thinking, I'm coming to 129 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:38.840 you now. I've got very bad problems because I had 130 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:41.840 problems as a child in care. You know, I was 131 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:45.559 abused different ways. I've got probably got post traumatic stress 132 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.120 in a bad way. And you know, I've lived with 133 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:52.919 this forty years, maybe fifty years that some people have 134 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:57.679 lived with longer. But do they become a lot better 135 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.600 the first session or does it take several sessions or 136 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.960 it is a kind of no fixing them properly? But 137 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.759 it managed you managed to live with it after coming 138 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:10.039 to you. 139 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.759 Okay, there's a lot of questions there. Can you fix 140 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:19.919 them properly? As an interesting one, probably the best way 141 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:21.639 to think about that is if you were to get 142 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:24.159 a piece of paper and you screwed it up into 143 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.480 a ball, you'd wrinkle the paper up and you could 144 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:32.799 smooth that paper out, but what you'd never do is 145 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.120 be able to get rid of all the wrinkles. So, 146 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:39.799 and it's sort of similar, so you could, so, yes, 147 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:44.120 very often you can straighten things out, but what you 148 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:48.120 can't do is get rid of the wrinkles. Yeah, and 149 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:51.480 you wouldn't necessarily want to either, because if somebody has 150 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:56.720 been through a sort of very traumatic past, what you 151 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.559 wouldn't want to do is to erase all memory of that, 152 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.240 because that firstly, that is their past and it belongs 153 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:08.600 to them. But secondly, if you undertake to remove things 154 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:11.759 like memories, then how on earth is that person going 155 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.000 to protect themselves from the same thing happening again. If 156 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.200 somebody has recollections of the. 157 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:23.279 Things that have happened to at least they can go against. 158 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:25.639 So usually it's a case of. 159 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:35.399 Changing somebody's changing the way somebody relates to reality. Are 160 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:37.919 you quite happy to have a long answer, because because 161 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:39.799 I'm quite happy to give you a longish answer, and 162 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.919 I'll make I'll do the best to make it interesting. 163 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:42.799 Yeah. 164 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:46.200 No, The longer answers make people understand better, don't they? 165 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:49.360 Right? Okay, fair enough, Well, one of the things you 166 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:52.639 asked was like, you know, can it be done really 167 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:54.639 quickly if somebody has had it for a long time. 168 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:03.039 The answer is yes, under certain circumstances and for certain reasons. 169 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:06.919 I mean, you could ask most people what shape the 170 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:10.720 earth is, and most people would say it's a ball, 171 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:14.639 and then you could say, okay, well, let's suppose it's 172 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:17.480 not a ball. Let's suppose it's shaped like an ice 173 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:19.879 cream cone, like a ninety nine or something like that, 174 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:23.720 and that all you ever see is the round end. 175 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:26.759 You never see the point end, because if NASA or 176 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.840 the other space agencies showed you that instantly, all the 177 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.200 funding is going to disappear, and people would be like, well, 178 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.200 you know, what are those clowns that NASA playing at. 179 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:37.320 We know it's not that shape. But let's also suppose 180 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:40.080 we could shoot you up into space and you could 181 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.279 look down on the Earth and see the pointy end 182 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:47.799 with your own eyes. The question is, even though you've 183 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:52.120 got a lifetime of programming which has taught you one thing, 184 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:54.519 how long would it take for you to change your 185 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.480 opinion about the shape of the Earth. And the reality 186 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:01.639 is you could do that in an instant, So it 187 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.480 doesn't really matter how long somebody's had something that the 188 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:11.279 human brain is perfectly capable of unlearning things if they 189 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.600 if they're shown to be incorrect, and it can it 190 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:19.519 can unlearn anything. So if somebody's carrying around all sorts 191 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:21.679 of problems, those are things that they have learned as 192 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:25.159 they've gone through life, or maybe they learned it from 193 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:29.320 some traumatic experience or our sequence of traumatic experience. Those 194 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:32.080 things can be unlearned in exactly the same way that 195 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:38.639 you can unlearn other things. And so what we're really 196 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:43.399 dealing with is what I call the model of reality, 197 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:50.200 because when people interact with the world and have feelings 198 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:53.679 about themselves or about other people, what they're actually reacting 199 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:59.120 to is not reality. It's reality as they perceive it, 200 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:04.200 as they understand it. And everybody understands reality in a 201 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:07.960 different way. That's why if you go on Twitter, you 202 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:11.799 can you can get involved in any conversation and you'll 203 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.879 find that people have very, very different opinions about it, 204 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:19.000 and that's because they're all modeling reality in different ways. 205 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.360 So in order to correct problems for people, you're not 206 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:28.840 changing anything about them. All you're doing is using hypnosis 207 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:32.399 and other tools in order to change the way that 208 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:36.639 person models reality. And if you can do that, then 209 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:40.440 you can reshape their entire experience of life. If that's 210 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:41.480 what you want to do. 211 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:49.519 Well, yeah, I mean a lot of people will want 212 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:55.240 their problems solved when they quickly rather than later. Yeah. 213 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:57.679 Well, actually, it's very often better to do it quickly 214 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:03.519 because if again, if you think about it, the things 215 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.240 that affect you the most profoundly and the most deeply 216 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.759 are typically not things that took a long time to happen. 217 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:16.360 They're usually things that happened quickly. So in terms of 218 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.720 what's the best way to go about solving things, it's 219 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:25.679 typically best to do it. What would be example, Okay, 220 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:28.320 somebody could go in and out of London on the 221 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:32.000 train every day they're commuting to work, you know, they say, 222 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:34.399 they're reading the newspaper, all the rest of it. Then 223 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:38.240 one day the tray there's a train accident, it comes 224 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:41.480 off the tracks or collides with another train. People can 225 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:46.679 become traumatized in second and the results of that would 226 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:52.600 be very very profound. So if the human brain can 227 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:57.759 do something like that very very quickly in a bad way, 228 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:01.639 going from feeling relaxed and happy to traumatized and everything's 229 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.159 upsetting me, all the rest of it, then it's firstly, 230 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.559 it's obvious that it's perfectly capable of doing it in 231 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.399 reverse because the same amount of rewiring is required, that's all. 232 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:15.919 And secondly, it's probably best to do it quickly because 233 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.279 that seems to be the way the human mind works. 234 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.600 Does that make sense because. 235 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:23.759 A lot of people with these traumas the last thing 236 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.720 they want to do. It depends on the situation, you know, 237 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:32.399 health trauma problem with health might be different to somebody 238 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:36.039 who's got PTSD, seen a bum or you know, they 239 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:38.120 had to train crash or they've been a booze in 240 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:44.720 children's homes. They're different levels, I guess, but I'd certainly 241 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:49.399 agree that it's Yeah, my point. Sorry I've gone the 242 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:52.879 wrong way. My point I was trying to make. I 243 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:58.000 think they wouldn't want to do this several times because 244 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:01.200 the worst thing is keep remembering what why you're there? 245 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.480 You know, why am we going out to the counsel 246 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.600 of the fair hypnosis? You know? They don't want to 247 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.919 remember that. They want to literally raise everything, and most 248 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:14.120 people want to do it quickly. I mean I know 249 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.759 I would. Yeah. 250 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:18.919 Well, the thing is it makes sense to do it quickly, 251 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:20.919 like I said, partly because of the way our own 252 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:28.120 minds work, but secondly it is just the logical way 253 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:32.240 to go about it. If if people go from feeling 254 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.200 fine to being traumatized quickly, and that's typically the way 255 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:39.919 it happens, it makes no sense to put somebody in 256 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:46.120 two years of therapy for that, because if the the 257 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:49.399 best way to solve things is to use is to 258 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.600 exploit the same mechanisms that change people in the first 259 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.720 place in order to change them back. So that's basically 260 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.279 my sort of fundamental approach is how did this in 261 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:05.519 the first place? What must have happened, What sources of information, 262 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:08.319 what streams of information were going into this person's mind 263 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:10.640 and changed to happen to them in the first place, 264 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.440 didn't so I end up in this date. Okay, If 265 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.480 that's the case, then how do we do that in reverse? 266 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.519 And that's it's it's very, very different from the sort 267 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:24.960 of traditional way of going about solving things where I mean, 268 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:28.759 there was a fire in kings Tross station years ago, 269 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:31.400 I think it was King's Cross and I was sat 270 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.119 watching the television and they were talking to people who'd 271 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:37.000 had like two and three years of counseling after that, 272 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:42.359 and I literally could not understand it, because if somebody 273 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:46.240 is taking two or three years to solve a problem 274 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:48.920 like that, then clearly they're going about it the wrong way. 275 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.359 It just doesn't make sense because it ignores the way 276 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:53.720 people's minds actually work. 277 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:59.960 Well. My negative response to that would be the whoever's 278 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:04.359 trying to solve these poor people's problems, they're just doing 279 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:08.559 it for the money. On that occasion, because even these 280 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:13.000 well I guess they're called rapid counselors, rapid counselors a 281 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:16.400 bit similar to what you do in the hypnosis, Even 282 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:21.480 the counselors, because I've been to one for a reason 283 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.640 and they actually say that we prefer to see you 284 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:27.279 over the shorter period rather than the longer one because 285 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.759 it doesn't have an effect after so many weeks. I 286 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:35.400 think it's six weeks. Oh and of course the funding 287 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:40.480 is not always good after that. Yeah. 288 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:43.039 Well, I think if somebody has puts it, at least 289 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:44.759 puts a limit on the amount of time that they're 290 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:46.720 going to spend with somebody, I think that's a good thing. 291 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.119 My way of doing hypnosis is under normal circumstances, not 292 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:54.079 during COVID because things are having to be worked on 293 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:59.799 slightly differently, but they are under normal circumstances. My approach 294 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:04.759 tonosis is a single session for anything that includes. For 295 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:09.519 years I specialized in straightening out bulimia nervosa and anorexia. 296 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:13.519 Most recently i've been doing lots of work on chronic 297 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:16.200 alcohol conditions because of a book that a lady wrote, 298 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:21.440 Who Saw Me, which is on Amazon. And again, those 299 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.640 things are all undertaken in a single session, but there's 300 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:28.000 a big difference between a single session for chronic alcoholism 301 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:30.640 and a single session for a spider phobia. If it 302 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.599 was a spiderphobia, I'd expect to have that straightened out 303 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:39.680 in maybe sixty minutes, But with chronic alcohol I'm devoting 304 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:43.200 most of an entire day. So even though it's a 305 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:50.920 single session, it's it's a single long, intensive session for 306 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:54.519 certain things. And that's it's just because for some things 307 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:57.400 there is a lot of work to do. And the 308 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:01.400 example that you gave of somebody who's had, you know, 309 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:04.640 countless different traumas, all sorts of problems. Their life's been 310 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.079 a bit of a train wreck, So there can be 311 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:10.519 a lot to straighten out if you're going to help 312 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:13.920 a person who's been in that kind of situation, and 313 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:16.759 that's very different from somebody whose life has been fairly 314 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:22.920 straightforward but who's experienced a single traumatic event, And the 315 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:25.640 two things are completely different, so they require they may 316 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:29.319 require different approaches, but also the amount of time that's 317 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:33.720 required could be very different. One of the reasons why 318 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:37.440 I work in that way goes back to when I 319 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:42.359 was working on eating disorders, which initially because years ago 320 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.759 I was working in a way which is very similar 321 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:47.440 to the way ollther hypnotherapists worked, and it was I 322 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:49.599 do maybe an hour and a half one weeek and 323 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:54.039 an hour and a half the next. But when I 324 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:57.519 started working on eating disorders, I began to attract people 325 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:00.279 from further and further afield, and I had people lying 326 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.359 in from Thailand and Egypt, which if you're in the 327 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:06.480 northeast of England is really quite something for a hypnotherapist, 328 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:10.640 and there's no way under those circumstances that you can 329 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:13.200 have them come back every week. So I started rolling 330 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:17.000 everything up into one session, and what I discovered was 331 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:24.119 is actually better in terms of outcomes, because if you 332 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:28.240 do things and you break it into separate sessions, then 333 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:30.960 you've got the sort of one step forward, two step 334 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:33.480 backs types and types in O or two steps forward, 335 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:39.759 one step back, hopefully where somebody will managed to undo 336 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:43.319 some of the progress that they've made between sessions. If 337 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:46.000 you've got somebody, you know they're bombs on the seat 338 00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:47.680 in front of you, and you've got them there for 339 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:51.200 the entire day. There's no opportunity for that to happen. 340 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:54.000 So it's actually a much more efficient way to work. 341 00:21:55.160 --> 00:22:00.680 It can be exhausting, but in terms of is it best, 342 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.319 in terms of if somebody is really in a mess, 343 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:06.799 it's typically the best way to do it in my experience, 344 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:08.640 which is how I ended up working in this way. 345 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:14.359 Yes, so just typically, then what does the session involve? 346 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.559 I mean, you know, I'm just talking from layman's terms. Yeah, 347 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.039 I'm imagining. Then you sit me down somewhere or I 348 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.640 lay down, whatever the case may be, and then you 349 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:30.200 sort of put me into this state of half awake, 350 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.599 half of sleep. I call it because I'm sure that 351 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.079 you must know what's going on technically with your eyes, 352 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.640 but maybe the rest of your mind is somewhere else. 353 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.759 I'm just this is from somebody who doesn't know anything 354 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:47.519 about this. So what actually happens? And how do you 355 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:50.480 go on to cur them? Is it what you say? 356 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:53.160 What you do? Yeah? That kind of okay? 357 00:22:54.119 --> 00:23:01.480 All right, Well again there's in some way questions. 358 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:03.359 Makes it not. 359 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:05.000 Right. 360 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:08.279 The typical way that I go about things is first 361 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:13.079 when somebody post arrives in the other then I will 362 00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:17.160 give them a brief explanation of what hypnosis is and 363 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:20.839 how their own mind works. And typically I'll relate that 364 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:24.200 to the problem that they're coming to me because they 365 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.519 want to solve it. Occasionally I get to work on 366 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.720 things where people are just looking to improve things, but 367 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.440 normally it's a problem that brings somebody to my door. 368 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:37.039 So I'll give them an explanation of how their own 369 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:40.920 mind works and what suggestions is all about, and how 370 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:44.720 hypnotis changes things. And then, like I said, what I'll 371 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:48.640 typically do is give them a demonstration. And the demonstration 372 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:51.400 for me is a test to make sure that I've 373 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:55.279 got that I can get the kind of state that 374 00:23:55.319 --> 00:24:01.079 I want whereby their genuinely responsive to suggestion. And like 375 00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:04.519 I say, so, typically for me, I like to lock 376 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:06.599 people's eyes shut. I like to stick their hands to 377 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.599 their head. I like to glue their feet to the floor, 378 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.640 stick them and them to the chair. Sometimes I'll offer 379 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.160 them money to get out of the chair, so that 380 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:20.400 what I'm doing there is testing for myself that yes, 381 00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:23.799 this is hypnosis and this person is somebody that I 382 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:27.440 know I can work with using these methods, and secondly 383 00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:32.160 for that for that person, then they don't question whether 384 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:35.799 it's hypnosis. But all I'm using is words. I am 385 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:38.160 actually sort of hands on as a hypnotherapist or I like, 386 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:42.240 you know, I'm lifting people's arms and so forth. But 387 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:48.240 it's with words, and words are incredibly powerful, and it's 388 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:51.359 only because words are powerful that you can have things 389 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:59.000 like education systems. In terms of what is hypnosis, you 390 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:01.480 can think of it as a kind kind of relaxed concentration. 391 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:07.680 So what I'm talking about is describing reality to somebody 392 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:13.039 not in a way that it is not rejected, and 393 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:17.799 as long as it's accepted, then somebody models reality in 394 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:22.799 that way and it becomes their experience of reality because 395 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:27.039 they live inside the model. And that's basically what I'm 396 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:27.799 talking about. 397 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:33.359 So if somebody has believed about black holes, for example, 398 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.640 they've got no experience of a black hole, but most 399 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:39.839 people would say, well, it's a hole in space. 400 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:41.279 And you know, they've seen Brian Cox come on the 401 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.119