Speaker 1: So you're a successful YouTuber, and you're a nice young woman,
and you're an intelligent young woman, and so one day
you confess to something that you felt you had to do,
something that's done every day in America, and then all
of a sudden, everything changes and you are under attack
from people who used to be your friends. And I
want to talk with that Nicki Philippi, who's a new
friend of mine through her dad, Dirk, and we will
maybe even ask Dirk to come on set and take
a bow. He's a very gifted speaker himself and musician.
So we'll talk with Nicky about this. And this is
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Speaker 2: The Todd Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved by
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her Man.
Speaker 1: Today is a day the Lord has made, and these
are the times to which God has decided we shall live.
And I'm joined it in studio by Nicky Philippie. I
do shake hands if I guess if that's.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, my hand's all sweaty, but there we go.
Speaker 1: Just keep me pro welcome. You had an incredible experience
that most people will never know. Is first of all,
you became a genuine, for real YouTube star.
Speaker 3: I became a genuine, for real YouTuber. Yeah. I've been
doing it for fourteen years at this point, and it,
I mean, it changed my life. It changed my family's lives.
I've loved it the whole time, but the last few
years have been crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, yeah, we'll talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to embarrass you, but your dad
knows I said this. You remember this. The first time
I met you was at a speech I gave in
Corley and Idaho, and you came up and introduce yourself,
your dad. You guys were you We are the same church.
Do you remember the first thing I said to you?
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't, but he shook my memory that
you asked me like if I worked in entertainment?
Speaker 1: Thing? Yeah, it was, yeah, what do you do in entertainment?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, And it was how you presented yourself and poise,
et cetera. And I've seen your dad speak, and maybe
this is something that he's passed on to you. But
talk about the process. Of getting into YouTube how that happened,
and then we'll get into this. The only thing I
can describe it as an attack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So first off, I'm really bad at like
summarizing things. I'm going to try really hard, but I'm
a YouTuber, so I tend to just like glaborate on
and on and on, and then when it's like focus
on just the important parts, it's like I don't know
which part's important. It kind of all feels important. But yeah,
I had. I started off doing more like traditional entertainment
stuff in LA. I was working like indie films, commercials,
lots of theme park stuff. The irony is, I don't
know if I told you this when we talked last time.
I think I did, but I'm not sure. When I
used to drive to like my shows or being on
set or whatever, I would listen to KFI AM six
forty and so I would frequently listen to rush Limboss.
I'm pretty confident that I had heard you back in
the day at some point, because I listened every single
I'm sure. So it's very kind of ironic, very full
circle being here hanging out with you. But that's what
I was doing first, and I had worked a job
in Singapore with a theme park, came home because I
had an injury, and when I came back, I was like,
what am I going to do with my life? Like
I can't dance anymore, I'm not really that great of
an actress, Like I don't not a great singer. I
don't know, And long story short, I ended up uploading
to YouTube. It took me about six months. I kept uploading,
taking down, uploading, taking down, feeling so embarrassed, and then
I ended up uploading and just keeping it up and
deciding not to tell anyone. I'm still gonna say anything.
We'll see if anybody other than my parents watches my videos.
Kept it up and kind of slowly over the next
year or two, built my audience from there. Because I
was in LA, I started meeting a bunch of other
LA YouTubers, which this I mean fast forward. I think
this is a big part of the reason why our
whole cancelation became what it was is because from the
beginning I was very plugged in with like the LA
YouTube comunity, and I was lucky enough to be brought
in and me all of these super talented people, a
lot of them were not believers. We didn't share the
same worldview, but that wasn't necessarily a problem for me.
We bonded on a lot of the other creative things,
you know, yeah, just like making content, and that's also
a very different like it's a different thing being a creator.
So there's even a bond in that too, like we
know what we've been through, you know what I mean.
So yeah, I just kept making videos over the next decade.
I'm really trying to shorten here, because I could really
go off into fourteen different directions. I started off basically
making like beauty content. It's actually really funny. I'll back
up the very first video I uploaded onto YouTube. I
was so embarrassed that I opened it by being like, hey, guys,
welcome back to my channel. Long time no see. Even
that was my very first video on YouTube. I was
just I was so humiliated, and I just kind of
kept going. And so my channel really started off as
like beauty lifestyle type stuff. The irony in that is
not only did my mom say from the beginning, like
like okay, yeah, you like the beauty thing. I kind
of just liked it because of my background and entertainment,
like having to get ready to go on stage on camera,
but it's not like that was a passion of mine.
And she's like, how much can you really talk about?
Like what are you gonna run out of things to
talk about? I was like, ah no, I'll just keep going,
you know. And I had a good friend of mine
at the time who actually just texted me the other
day and was like telling me she was proud of me.
But she was like, why don't you talk more about
like political, social historical stuff. And I'm not saying this
is true, I'm just quoting her. She was like, you're
one of the most educated people I know on the topic,
like this is what you love. And I'm like, no,
that's not what I'm doing, which that also kind of
ties into once we fast forward to all the cancelation stuff.
But yeah, I just kind of kept doing beauty lifestyle
stuff because my background was dancing and singing in musical
theater as well. I was blessed enough in my journey
to be able to make a lot of really cool music.
I'm not one of those YouTubers that felt like above
doing covers, like doing covers. I think other people have
made a lot of really great music, and I got
connected with some really talented musicians and producers in LA
that did a really great job at what would be
the word not re engineering, rearranging music in a way
that we would take like these songs that I liked,
and then we would make them kind of our own.
So I put out a lot of really cool songs.
My dad actually played on one of them. We did
John Mayer in the Blood and it was really cool.
And yeah, I was just kind of doing my thing
over the years. I feel like that's probably the broadest
picture I could give of the journey without getting too
far into details.
Speaker 1: So I've become a fan of your work, and that's
not a phrase I use a lot because it means fanatic.
So I appreciate your work. And one of the things
you're very clever at doing is sort of I would
describe as a soft open You're very skilled at talking
with people, being conversational. That's hard when you are talking
to a camera to provide the illusion that you're talking
with people. Now through the years, and maybe you're the
same way you feel an audience because you get to
know them through comments and occasionally meet them at live events.
I've noticed that about you and then came this time
where you had to confess to something. And we do
this sometimes my wife will say to me, I learned
things about you and your show. I didn't know that
happened to you, or I didn't know you felt that way.
So I want to talk about the moment of the cancelation,
how that happens, and then this discovery of well wait
a minute, So this topic is the thing that makes
me verbote, and we'll talk about this with Nikki Philippi.
There is a topic that freaks people out. I get it,
it really does. It's stem cells. People hear that, they go, no,
I'm out because that's aboorded babies. I would not have
anything to do with a business that had anything to
do with the boarded babies. I didn't ever think I
would fly to Mexico for healthcare. Why would I fly
to a third world country for healthcare when we've got
the greatest healthcare in the world up here. Well, I
don't know your opinion, but certain events I've changed my
estimation of American healthcare certain events, and I view it
now much more as a two prong system to get
you to take pills or get cut open. And when
I had to run into this shoulder surgery and I
wanted to recover more quickly. I went to Renew Healthcare.
It's Renewed Dot Healthcare by the Way, Ue Dot Healthcare
in port of O, out of Mexico, on the recommendation
of a friend of mine who is a competitive masters swimmer,
third in the world by the way master swimmer. He
hurt his shoulder so bad that he couldn't move his
arm above his head, let alone swim, and he went
down to Renew and within weeks he was back to swimming.
They put these ethically gathered stem cells into his arm
fifty forty forty five million. They fought the inflammation, They
rebuilt tissue. They can do this in your lower back.
They can do this with neurological challenges. My shoulder recovered
fifty times faster than my shoulder I didn't have the
stem cells. And my buddy Boris ended up investing in
that company. And he doesn't do that lightly. He's an
investment professional. That wasn't a light decision he made. So
I would look you in the eye, loook anyone else
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It's renew dot Healthcare. Nicki Philippi's with me. So you
have been running in the circles of entertainment, and I've
run in those circles, not like you, but a little bit.
I used to have a Microsoft checkbook that in Los Angeles,
so I was super popular because I had fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Right, So I got invited to all the white parties,
to all the little white lines and all the beautiful
mirrors and seeing some of that stuff.
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, I'm excited to interview you on
my podcast as well because I can't wait to hear
all of your stuff in more detail hopefully.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, you'll get all the detail you want.
You go, you get in front of the camera, and
you talked about a heartbreaking decision you had to make.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So our dog Bowser, we had him for he
was about ten and a half years old, and he
had shown aggression before we had worked with a trainer
in the past. He was just I mean, he was
kind of an out of control dog in a lot
of ways, and he had actually attempted to bite people
a couple of times. There were just a few different
things that had come up, and basically he bit our
son in the face. And when that happened, and it
happened in like a blink too, I mean, and you
have to forgive me. I get nervous even rethinking it,
not only just my stomach kind of shudders when I
think about how grateful I am that my son was okay.
Like all he was left with. He has like a
little mark on his face and that's it. And I'm
sure everyone is seen, especially in the last few years,
which I don't think this is a coincidence, how many
stories have come out of kids being either mauled to
death or just having their face ripped off like it
literally makes me shudder when I think about how grateful
I am that my son was okay. But he bit
our son in the face, and after that it was like, okay,
stuff has happened, Multiple things have led up to this.
We need to rehome him, and so we had reached
out to an organization to talk about rehoming him, and
they basically walked us through the fact that they're like,
you cannot rehome this dog for a lot of different reasons,
not only like do bite laws very state by state,
but he had shown aggression before he was elderly, essentially
like that breed of dog. He was in the chapter
of his life where he was nearing the end anyways,
and so I mean, once again trying to not go
off in too many details, it was a hard phone call.
It was really devastating. I've been with my husband for
sixteen years. That was one of the few times I've
ever seen him cry, was when they told us, like,
you cannot rehome him. So we had to put Bowser
down and we did it in our home with an anesthesiologist,
if that's the term for it. And afterwards, I felt
like I had to tell the internet, mostly because a
lot of my videos over the years, you know, I
do a variety of videos, Like I said, I've done
beauty and lifestyle and music and this and that, and
I've done a lot of logs, and so my audience
that had really watched faithfully had seen from the very
beginning when we first brought Bowser into our home, and
it couldn't just be like, oh, Bowser's just non And
I didn't want to lie, not only because I don't lie,
but also because honestly, this is ironic. I thought, oh
my gosh, if I changed the story and then someone's
going to do some digging and then they're gonna find it,
you know, it's gonna blow up in this whole thing.
The best thing to do is to just tell the truth.
And so we filmed a video just basically telling everyone
what had happened, and after I put it up, we
put up an Instagram post, you know, to say like, hey,
this is what happened. I have a full video out
of my YouTube channel. And it was within minutes like
the post went completely viral. I actually ended up privating
my Instagram about twenty four hours later because the post
had like thirty thousand comments on it. It was insane,
and we started getting death threats immediately. I mean that night,
I remember I was getting texts and phone calls. The
next morning when I woke up, I had texts with
pictures of my house and my address, like we're coming
for you. You think you can hide you can't. Like
I had mentioned, I had become friends over the years
with a lot of the LA creator community, which, like
I alluded to earlier, I think that's a big reason
this blew up, because a handful of those creators I
don't know if they had been waiting for me to
like fall or what, or maybe it really just in
their worldview, this was the last straw, but this is
the thing that really set them off. So a lot
of them made videos about us, and from their worldview,
which I've learned a lot since that point that like, Okay,
this whole animal worship thing is a thing that runs
rampant culture. It makes sense to me now. Could not
have foreseen it. Then we were completely blindsided. Like there
were a lot of people that felt we did that
for views, And I'm thinking, like, man, I would take
that back if I could. And in some ways, not
like not the situation, not the fact that we put
Bowser down, but just this idea of like doing something
for views. It's like it was horrible. In a matter
of two days, we had lost all of our sponsorships.
Happened in March, I believe, and we had at that
point sponsorships booked out through Christmas, and all of them,
one by one just kept pulling because the mob, the
online mob, which that's a whole separate thing. I do
think that the online mob is representative of culture in
some ways. On the other hand, my dad and I
have talked about this a lot. I don't know how
many of these online people are actually people. I think
that like if they paid people to show up to
protests back in the day, like, how much easier is
it for there to be bots to stick on people
who don't align with your agenda? And if I had
learned one thing over the previous decade on YouTube was
that I did not necessarily align with the agenda of
YouTube corporate and a lot of these bigger corporate entities
that were involved in YouTube. So yeah, it just it
exploded really fast. And when we first posted it, actually
my manager had called me up and she was like,
you need to take that down, like you can honor
his memory without saying what happened. And first off, I
was like, well, it's already up. The internet doesn't forget,
which on a side note, people always ask us why
we still have this video up, and that's the reason
we still have it up. A the internet doesn't forget
what am I gonna do? Take it? It didn't happen,
But b I don't feel like we have anything to
be ashamed of. Like I said to you, if we
could go back, we've thought about it in circles over
and over and over. We would have done the exact
same thing. Would we have necessarily told everyone? I don't
know about that, you know, I think that it was
supposed to play out this way. God's done a lot
in my heart and in my husband's heart through this.
It's been painful, but I think it's been necessary. But
we wouldn't have changed, Like we still would have put
Bowser down at that point. But yeah, she'd said that
to me, I'm like, dude, I'm not going to take
this down. Like we've already told everyone, it's already loose.
But we eventually we parted ways as well, so everything.
We had five employees at the time, we had to
let everyone go. It all changed in the matter of
like a week. It was really depressing. It was really scary.
I think I cried from like honestly like four months,
like not to be true. Yeah, I get it, but
I mean at that point I had already put in
a decade of work into this. I had poured my
heart and soul into YouTube and worked really hard alongside
other people, and it was very hard for me to
wrap my brain around how doing something that I actually
thought and still think was right could get me in
so much trouble and change things so radically, Like it
kept feeling like not reality, Like I'm I going to
wake up? What the heck is this?
Speaker 1: There's an obvious comparison that people probably been making in
their minds in the podcast family Is that? Okay? If
you'd come on and said, hey, guys, you know, my
husband and I have been together for sixteen years. We
actually they got pregnant. It's not a good time for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So it made the really difficult decision of have an
abortion nothing, you'd still have sponsors, et cetera. My daughter's
a vegan, so she'd hear your story and she'd be
one of those people who's outage.
Speaker 3: I'll just tell you that, right and which, to be honest,
those are the only my husband gets mad when I
say this, but those are the only people whose anger
I kind of respect because I'm like, well, at least
you're really consistent.
Speaker 1: Right, you don't eat me, but it's like if.
Speaker 3: You eat burgers like, I'm sorry, I don't. You're missing
the consistency here.
Speaker 1: Let me share with you just a quick story of
something happened to me, because you speak of the mob
and I met the mob. I met the mob twice.
I mean, I've met the like Antifa types who've come
to my studio in Seattle with the intention of intimidating
me and then when they found out, wait, you actually
do carry guns. Yeah, I remember when I said that
on the show. But I'll tell you a story about
a lady, a lady who wished a painful death upon
my little girl, who at the time was in kindergarten.
And I'll share this with you. In a second. We're
talking with Nikki Philipi. There's a link to her podcast, YouTube, vlogs,
et cetera. In the shows. Yeah, same thing. We'll tell
the story, and I'll tell it because it was a lady.
I've confronted men. And there's a funny thing that happens
somehow in the world of talk radio. Male bullies get
the opinion that all talk show hosts are really small,
wispy little dudes. So back when I was big and
could intimidate people with physical bulk and a walk outside
and they look at you and they get this instant
step back of like, oh, oh gosh, you're not the
little dude we thought you were.
Speaker 3: No.
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I met the mob this lady when I was the
chief Digital Strategy at the RNC. She found my email
dress she sent me this note and she said, oh no,
she did it on social media. That's what she did
on social media. I hope your daughter dies slowly of
a really really painful disease like cancer, right kidding me? No,
she said this. I just she said this, and I
use this tool. I can't remember the name of the
two anymore. Where it was this incredible database. You took
someone's social media handle and that would find all their
email addresses. So I learned that she owned a jewelry
store in Maryland. So that weekends my wife and daughter
and I drove out and my wife stayed in the car.
She didn't want to see this lady. And my daughter
and I went in. My daughter was kindergarten, blonde, blue eyed,
very friendly little girl. She loved the shop and she
bought some trinkets. I bought them for her. And the
lady was so kind. You're oh, it's such a lovely girl,
and stands oh so in need of your daddy to
buy this to you? And oh and honey, you go
into the car with mom, And I said, you know,
I'd love to be able to know when you have
specialists coming. Let me give you my business card.
Speaker 3: Oh so she didn't even recognize you by your face.
Speaker 1: No, she looked at my business card, taught herm in
chief Digital Strategy, Republican National Committee. You m hm, that's
the little girl you wish death upon. Wow, So why
don't you come to the car with me? And why
don't you say it to her face? And she just shook,
I mean shoulders shook. She started to tear up. I
am so sorry. I can't believe what politics does to me.
I said, well, but she's right here. Well i'll give
your money back. No, no, wow, No, that's okay. I don't
want my money back. I bought that for my daughter.
But why wouldn't you go say this? Because I don't
believe it. I am so sorry. This is a real
wake up call for me. I said, well, I'm glad,
that's why I came. I didn't think you meant it.
I don't really think you meant it, but you know
they mean it at the time. Because I'm making you cry,
I'm sorry that.
Speaker 3: It's just incredible to me that, yeah.
Speaker 1: Social media for many people, and I got addicted to this,
the dopamine rush of owning the libs on Twitter. Oh
you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, boom boom boom.
And it's very un And so I was thinking about
about the people I've burned and the old days of
talk ready to get off my phone, you idiot. And
I guess it was my chance to experience that a
little bit, to experience that anger. But I have a
theory about you, and.
Speaker 3: God, oh, let's hear the theory.
Speaker 1: Well, let's hear first of all, how your approach to
doing your job has changed it all. If you've kind
of come back and started to make content again and
I've left back and looked at some of your older work,
and I see that you are weaving in so well
to your content. A little topic on medical freedom here,
and you know, and you do it in a very
wise and YouTube safe way, but people know what you're saying,
a little food freedom here, and then even some mentions
of your faith in Jesus just a little bit, and
you do it well enough that I think people can
take this as bits and pieces of something they'd want
to look at later, like, huh, she has this faith,
maybe I should. So how did that change for you
when you started to come back into the world.
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because you know, how you see yourself
versus how other people see you as always just that
very interesting because I feel like I've always kind of
had that in the mix. Like I used to kind
of joke. It wasn't really a joke, like I want
to be like a vitamin wrapped in chocolate, like I
want to you know, it's I want to have that.
I want to be like this this goodness out there,
but it's digestible whatever that means, which my view on
that has even kind of changed. That's probably, I guess
to shorten the answer to your question, The biggest thing
that has changed for me since going through all of
this is realizing that I can't control how other people
feel about me. So even if I want to be
a vitamin wrapped in chocolate, it's like someone might still think,
like I taste gross. You know that. It's like not,
I can't control people's reactions.
Speaker 1: An everlasting gobstopper though, so a gross.
Speaker 3: I've never tried it ever, looks in colstalker.
Speaker 1: Got what I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever tried one, though. He was
a joke in that.
Speaker 1: Okay, don't tell the kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not. I'm not that clued into yeah junk
food stuff slash, haven't watched really won kin a minute
but got it out.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, wait a minute, you're dead sitting her. Hey listen,
I think you're a great father. But that's no, it's
it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not because I can watch movies over and over
and I don't. My husband gets mad at me because
he's like, we just watched that. I'm like, but I
won't remember. I'm like, yeah, I'm paying attention to different
things and I forget. I miss like main points, like
the main candy in the movie apparently. Yeah, I've just
realized that, like I can't control how people are going
to take things, so I can try to be like
as nice and as sweet as I will. And it's
not that I don't think that that's not a worthwhile endeavor.
You know, all these books like my parents did have
me read growing up, you know, like how do one
friends and influence people? It's like, I think those are
worthwhile skills. But my opinion has changed in the sense that, like,
I don't think that guarantees you anything. And ultimately, especially
in the view of like the Gospel and how God's
going to work through you and through stuff, sometimes it's
just like, oh, well, you just got to say it,
Like you're going to be too concerned about, like, oh,
hurting people. It's like sometimes you just got to say it.
So it's funny because I feel like I've become more
emboldened since the cancelation to just say things more upfront.
Versus my past content. It was more I feel like
just like little drips here and there, Although I did
have a channel called Asniki that was an advice channel,
and I was definitely more bold on that channel. But
I still I mean, this is me being bold now,
so if I'm still soft maybe compared to you. For me,
it's all very bold.
Speaker 1: Well, I think because of the time I spent initially
in talk radio and what it was and how the
medium worked at that time, you know, bold was rewarded.
Maybe there's a gender difference. And I'm not really joking
about growing up redneck. I mean one of our solutions
in junior high in high school was on me you
at the church, that's where the fist fights occurred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a native Angelina.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys did you did the drive by
shooting some stuff? Right? That's Nikki hanging out the door
with the.
Speaker 3: Oh like a suburban Angelina. Just mean like more of
like an atheistic society through paintballs, yeah, you know, just
just different than the redneck meets you at church society.
Speaker 1: There's advantages to that. So I I had this experience
to where when I got to fill in for Rush
Limbaugh for the first time, and I was working with
that guy who you can't see on camera, Alex, that's Alex,
and I got this word, Hey, we're gonna ask you
a film for Rush. And I did it and it's cool.
Speaker 3: You guys go back that far by the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, long time.
Speaker 2: And the.
Speaker 1: When the the I went to the studio and I
was listening to the parodies of Rush, because he had
these parties that would run down the affiliates, like, you know,
six hundred stations just to make sure that everyone's getting
to feed, so the aranizations to catch catch on. Okay,
we're getting the EIB feed from New York. And it
was fine. And then I realized, oh my gosh, I'm
about to go on a program with the largest radio
audience that, in all reality will ever exist twenty five
million people. I mean not all at once, but you know,
five ten million persons every fifteen minutes. And I dropped
to my knees and prayed. And when I stood up
and the parodies ended, and then there was silence, and
then the beep of the satellites. All of a sudden,
I was grossly nervous and dry mouth.
Speaker 3: I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And then when I heard boom boom boom boom boom boom, yeah,
and I believed fully in my soul that someone was
going to walk in the door and go, oh wait
a minute. We didn't understand you're the redneck guy. No, no,
we can't have this is a big mistake. We thought
you were someone else. But it occurred to me later
and Alex and I talked about this that I said
to you, do you remember this? I said, you know,
it's really weird. I prayed during Russia's show, but not ours,
and you and I started to pray every morning before
the show. And Alex is a very stout, firm man
of God, and the show began to change, and I
found it very difficult to not speak God's word on
a consistent basis. And pastors weren't me about this. They said,
you're going to find that you find it very hard
to speak about things other than God's word. So I
have this theory with you, and I want to share
this with you. I can't believe we didn't bring this in.
And this is completely NION's fault. But she's a short timer.
She's leaving, so don't get to be too harder. She
forgot to bring you the bone frog coffee. That's nay
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Speaker 3: I don't drink coffee.
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to fix that.
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Speaker 3: It's a bonus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bonus, right, no longer commonists. We'll get
some for your debt.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 1: So here's my theory is, I think you got to
see and feel persecution. Now I'm not saying that you're
preaching the word of God when you had to put
bowser down. But God does not call the equipped, so
he equips the cold. And I think you live in
a time of persecution, and I think your generation is
going to face much more of it than you would
ever ever imagine. And the Lord Jesus had told us effectively, look,
they hated me first, blessed are you when they persecute
you in my name? And you're uniquely able to use
the platform you've been given and the personality with which
God gifted you to begin speaking these things into a
generation that they're chasing after teachers that their itching years
want to hear things. You live in a world where
pastors will say things that simply are not in the Bible,
and people don't know fifteen percent of Americans have a
biblical worldview, though I think about sixty five percent of
people call themselves Christians and I think it's something along
the lines of seven and a half percent of youth
pastors have an actual biblical worldview. That's creepy, right. So
I have this theory that you taste a little bit
of persecution and you live through it. Yeah, and you're
still Nikki and you still have a family that loves you,
and you still have a husband who loves you. So
that's my theory.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to disagree with that. I
think you know, when everything happened, which there was even
I mean there was even more that came after that.
It was kind of like a punch and then a
double punch because leading up to that time, before we
had our son. Should I even go off on this, You.
Speaker 1: Go off on whatever you want. You're professional.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I get a little paranlem because, like I said,
I can go on for hours. So it's like, I
don't know what I'm about to say, how long?
Speaker 1: I don't know what we need to do. We took
the brown endmen's out of the dish. There, we got
your managements all fine with the limo and everything.
Speaker 3: I don't get the bread. Oh, like diva comment, you.
Speaker 1: Don't get the van Halen thing.
Speaker 3: No, I think about it in terms of jaloh.
Speaker 1: Wait, you your dad was a successful studious You didn't
tell the van Halen story, the van Halen story. Van
Halen had a rider, okay, in their concert their concert
rider okay said that they wanted bulls of Eminem's with
all the broms from It's just to be jerk.
Speaker 3: I did pick up on the vibe though, because while
I'm not saying this is true, I've heard the same
thing of j Lo. So that's kind of what I thought. Yeah,
I just saying that's true or whatever, but you know,
picky about the foods or whatever, which I'm picky about
my foods too, it just wouldn't be Eminem's anyways. Wow,
back on focus. So after the Bowser situation, part of
the reason it was so prolonged was not just that cancelation.
And this is I guess kind of along the lines
of like the persecution and it really feeling like it
was targeted because of our faith. We had been going
on a journey for the previous like two years prior
to getting pregnant having my son, an adoption journey. Essentially,
I had thought for a long time that I didn't
want to have any biological children. This is kind of
it's fascinating to me because it's kind of part of
this whole thing as well. I think it's kind of
in the same subject vein. And the reason I thought
I didn't want to have biological children was very layered.
I dealt with chronic pain for a long time, so
that was part of it. I thought, man, having a
baby's going to like ravage my body, and then part
of it And I've actually referred to this is probably
like the biggest leftist lie I fell for, because even
though I was from I'm from LA I've really kind
of always been more conservative. Like I told you, i'd
be driving to like an event listening to KFI like
I've always been. I got married at twenty, you know,
I've always been more conservative. But at the time, the
kind of, like I said, the biggest leftist lie I
fell for was thinking, okay, well, over population, like there's
too many people on the planet, there's not enough resources,
and holding hands with well, what's the big deal about
my DNA? Why would I need to duplicate my own DNA? Like,
if there's all these kids that need homes, that need
moms and dads, like, why would I need to have
any children? And now to me, those are almost you know,
separate things. There obviously are orphans kids that need moms
and dads. Now without going to conspiratorial through our journey,
our eyes were opened a lot to oh, there is
corruption in our opinion, not only within CPS that we
started kind of seeing that's almost a yeah, separate topic,
but we experienced that. But also when we were looking
at adopting internationally, we confronted or we saw what we
started to believe, like, Okay, I think there might be
human trafficking going on here. And you know, it wasn't
so clear that we could get on the internet and
be like, hey, everyone, there's human trafficking happening here. But
stuff started presenting itself, and then we started reading certain
blog articles and encountering things that we were like, I
think there might be trafficking going on here. Just very weird.
The whole idea of how many orphans there actually were,
the whole idea of how many kids actually needed to
be ripped out of their homes in the States and
replace with new family it just all started being a big, giant,
confusing pot of questions honestly and basically, after we had
gone through this whole journey of like looking at international adoption,
looking at domestic private adoption, looking at fostering with the
possibility like fostering to adopt, we ended up getting through
the end of our journey with this foster program, which
was like it was a few months long, full of
like blood work and psychological interviews and evaluations and letters
written by family members. We had received a call from
the agency basically telling us that if we weren't willing
to change the age range that we were willing to
accept that they didn't have a use for us. Now.
On a side note, that was a completely different story
than what we had been told the whole time through
a journey, But I say all that to say that
was kind of the final thread for me, And I
was like, dude, am I sure that I don't want
to have babies? Like I'm getting to the point now
where I'm starting to get older? Are you sure? Nikki?
So we ended up trying for a child, got pregnant
the first month. That decision was made really fast, But
after the cancelation happened with Bowser about two months after that,
everything reared up again, but not in regards to Bowser.
A clip from a video that we had made when
we were documenting our adoption journey ended up going viral.
They took about I think it's like thirty seconds out
of a video that was over an hour long. Now,
besides the fact that the video was over an hour long,
that one video was part of a multi video series.
As you can maybe tell about me now from talking
to me, sometimes I'm honest to a fault. And when
we were going through looking at international adoption, we were
looking at different countries. You know, which country would be
the right fit. Every country has different requirements, different things
that they allow or don't allow, And one of the
countries that we had been looking at was Thailand, which,
ironically enough, we had actually been giving monetarily to a
anti human trafficking program in Thailand for almost a decade.
My dad actually has visited the home over there, and
in the video we had talked about like, hey, we
started looking at Thailand as an option, but now it
looks like Thailand's not gonna work either. And basically what
happened was when we were going through all of the
things that were laid out, like the qualifications One of
the things on the list was saying that the child
cannot appear online anywhere for a year or they will
take them back, or that you run the risk of
them taking them back. Now side note, I say this hesitantly.
You decide whether you want this in or not. That
also smells to me a little odd, a little bit like,
why wouldn't you want the child on the internet for
a year? Is it because they're gonna look the same
for about a year, they're gonna be more recognizable. Like,
this is weird to me. I'm not necessarily making that accusation,
but it smelled really weird.
Speaker 1: I never would have thought of that angle, but that's weird.
Speaker 3: Apparently a lot of people didn't. And the reason we
backed out though, was not, oh man, we can't put
them in our vlogs, like this is our job for
a living. If there were layers of an onion, yes,
we are online for a living. If they showed up
in the background or whatever, even that be a risk
of them being taken back. Really, it was a very
level headed, my very level headed assistant who was like, Nikki,
you can't guarantee that, like a full what if you're
at a birthday party? What if? And this used to
happen to me a lot back then. It doesn't happen
so much now, partially because I spend a lot of
my days at home with my newborn and being a milkmaker.
But back then, I would be out and about and
I would come home and I would open up Twitter
and someone has seen me out and taken a picture
of me, like, oh, I saw you, but I didn't
want to say hi. I was too nervous, and so
that's a picture that was taken. I mean, no big deal,
but like without my consent, I didn't okay this, And
so my assistant was like, dude, you can't. You can't
make that guarantee. You run the risk of taking a
child and then them being ripped apart from you again
because your lifestyle does not align with like the requirements
that this country has laid out. So we tried to
explain that I maybe over explained, which I might be
doing right now, but I explained that in the video,
they took a thirty second clip that made it basically
look like the reason we didn't adopt a child was
because we couldn't exploit them quote unquote, and that blew
up into its own thing, like literally all over again.
Cover of Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. So it was two
basically two cancelations backed back within a two month period.
And so that's really, to my defense, why I cried
for four months, it's because it like it exploded. And
then we moved here actually shortly after, because when we
started getting so many death threats and had to file
police reports, my parents were like, what are you even
doing there? Like just move here now, And we moved here,
and then everything blew up again in regards to the adoption.
And it's crazy too because the internet's like a bad
game of telephone. Like I still I mean this last week,
I probably got this comment three to five times from
people saying like, why should I listen to you the
girl who returned a handicapped child because she couldn't tell oh,
she couldn't exploit them. I'm like, why we weren't even
in the program? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: People quote know about us? It's crazy, right, there's some
things that I still get to this day, and I'll
tell you about in a second. Nicki Philippi's with us.
You'll relate to this because we were just talking about
and you talk about I don't use the word handicapped
and understand why people do. It's a very very decent word.
In regard to a company we work with called Alan Soaps,
This is named after a young kid. He's thirteen, he's
been through like eighteen operations, is effectively nonverbal, but a
brilliant kid and his dad. When Alan was in the womb,
his dad's name is John, the medical authorities came and
looked at the body structure that Alan had, and he
has a very rare disease that makes his spine very
very unique, and he's gonna have all these neurological issues.
They showed him the ultra sound and said that he
and his wife, Hey, why don't we kill the baby
for you? Why don't we just do that because the
baby's not going to have any quality of life. This
changed John and his wife. John was a very successful
digital marketer, and he realized, the world doesn't want my son.
How's he ever going to work? And then when he
was born and it turned out he was so profoundly autistic,
state authorities would contact him, Hey, you know, we have
homes for him. We could storm someplace for you and
you can get on with your life. And he had
this realization, Ah, gosh, my son's never going to work.
How's he going to sustain himself? So he left basically
the world of digital marketing, which he was very successful,
and he said, what's a product everybody needs? Soap? He
did not how to make it. So he interfaced with
a family who's from Europe. Three generations over here now
and three generations of soap making expertise. Alan invents the
soaps to the fragrances. Some of them come from well,
they come from his memories, things that mean something to him.
My favorite is cedarwood jasmine, and he was he remembered
the smell of that by going through his grandmother's memory
chest and pulling out wedding pictures and so there's a
lot of very unique sense there's unsensed. So now you
fast forward these years later, it's not one kid working
there or young person, it's three and all of them
are people that the I called the party would have
just thrown out. So the offer I make to viewers
listeners is this, you can continue to buy soap from
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So it's Alan Soaps dot com slash todd. I was
talking to you about meeting the mob and about that
experience and what you've met and what you've been through.
And let's say one more instance, and then I want
to ask you a question. Okay. I was speaking at
George Shown University and once again they came after my daughter.
So I was setting up to speak and I had
my desktop was showing on the on the projector behind me,
and there was a picture of my daughter and this
guy sitting in the front row says, and he's there early.
He goes, that's your daughter. Go, yeah, yeah it is.
So you give my speech and afterwards he raised his hand.
I said yeah. He goes, yeah, I'm the guy who
asked if that was your daughter earlier. You know, I
hope she dies of throat cancer, and I hope there's
nothing you can do for her. I hope it's painful
and it takes two or three years and there's nothing
you can do. And the place starts to boo. I mean,
to the defense of these college students. They start to boo.
I said, no, no, let them talk. He goes, well,
you don't want other people to have access to healthcare,
so why should she? This is Obamacare. What a comparison, right,
And I said, okay, well she's here. She's in the room,
so she's seated up in the back row, so honey,
would you stand up? And people turned around and he
turned around and I said, yeah, I got you. She's
not really here because I wouldn't bring her in such
a place. You're threatening a little girl because you say
don't want people to have access to health care. I do.
I just don't think Obamacare will do that. I think
it will destroy access to health care. And if that
doesn't explain my position, I'm pretty sure if you will
need to take off the contact, Philip, watch that your
parents give you as part of your trust fund in
the three thousand dollars sweatsuit. I don't want it to
get dirty. You and I could go out back and
we could probably figure this out real quick. Well, I
was just saying, I say, yeah, I know, you were
just saying, so meeting the mob, you met the mob,
But then Jesus met the mob. And I think about
our Savior and the things that were no doubt said
to him on the way to the cross, and yourself,
you saved others, save yourself. Look at you now, King
of the Jews, and that thing he said just before
he died about his tormentors, forgive them, father, they know
not what they do. How are you with forgiveness?
Speaker 3: Oh? I don't even know how to answer that question.
That's that was a much more profound question than I
expected you to ask. I mean, I want to say uh,
I want to say good like I'm not, you know,
but that at the same time, I know that I'm
a sinner, and I know that you know. My feelings
on the mob in general kind of changed day to day.
I will say, within the last few months, more than
more than anger at people, I've felt a lot of
shame at times, and just embarrassment like I should have known,
like why why did I share all of this? But
I feel like God's lifted a lot of that from
me recently. So I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I
didn't expect you to ask that. I almost don't have
an answer.
Speaker 1: How's your heart feel?
Speaker 3: I mean depends on the day and the time.
Speaker 1: How does it feel right now?
Speaker 3: Well, you asking me that, I guess it feels kind
of kind of sad. I go towards sadness more than anger,
you know. I don't you know when you said that,
like I have kind of a soft touch. I don't
tend to go towards like I don't tend to be
a fighter. I don't tend to go as much towards
like anger and rage. I tend to more like shut
down and kind of fall under the weight of people's
hate and anger. You know. So when you've told me
your stories of confronting the mob and like how strong
you've been, I'm like, man, I want to be more
like that because I kind of tend to like melt
under it.
Speaker 1: So wait, wait, you haven't melted.
Speaker 3: You're sitting right here, thank you.
Speaker 1: You haven't melted and you are strong in a different way.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's that strong to threaten the
jack a guy up.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean you said that to me last
time too, And I was like, I'll take that. I
appreciate that, but yeah, I mean I don't sit and
think about being angry at them all the time. Yeah, man,
I really don't even I feel like I'm at such
a loss for words. I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 1: But forgive. This is such a weird process. I was
talking to my daughter about this. You know, she suffered
some significant harm and we had a sermon at church
and it was about forgiveness, and she and I were
visiting about that afterwards, and she said, well, some people
just don't deserve it. I don't want to do that.
I don't want to call them and tell them. And
I said, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, you thought you
have to tell them? She said, I don't. No, no,
you tell Jesus. And let me ask you this, honey,
you forgiving them in confess into the Lord Jesus. What
does that do for them? She said? Nothing? Right? What
does it do for you? And I shared with her
he who extends mercy will receive it. I'm not saying
you're not a merciful person. I know you to be,
but that discovery to her that wait, I'm not doing
this for them. Know you're doing this because you love Jesus.
I wonder what our world would be like if we
forgave the big things as easily as sort of the
little things. What was done to you is not a
little thing. It's a big thing. But for instance, what
if we forgive political enemies in our heart every morning?
How different would our day be when we sit down
to concern political news and in advance say I forgive
all these people for all the evil that's being done
through them. I mean, I don't want to go too deep.
Speaker 3: But no, I mean you're making my wheels turn and
you're kind of making me think about the fact this
is like live on therapy or on screen therapy session. Okay,
you're making me think about the fact that like maybe
I've been sitting more in a place of like don't
be angry, like more neutrality type of thing, like let
it go. But I've I mean, yeah, you're making me
realize I've never I've never gone to the Lord in
prayer and like asked for him to give me a
feeling of forgiveness towards them, like help me to forgive them.
I've never done that. I think that's maybe why I
was caught off guard, because I've really just been trying
to sit in this camp of like, like I said,
more neutrality, like Okay, well you know they're in the wrong.
Like I know my worldview, I know what I feel
like the Lord has called us to do. But yeah,
that's you're definitely giving me something to bring to God
in prayer. That's really good.
Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, I think we owe it to ourselves to
examine that, and I know that there's probably things I
should forgive to talk with this so close us off
for us, Like what what do you think God is
calling you to do? Specifically? I know you've been pregnant
this you might not have an answer. Maybe it's continue
to do what you're doing. You live in the high
Mountains of Free American.
Speaker 3: I love that you call it that, by the way,
I think.
Speaker 1: That's kind of accurate, right.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a radio show host thing to
like have a name for the area, and I like
the one you've coined. I'm like that's perfect.
Speaker 1: I know it's in a podcasting area, just supposed to
start talking with the people.
Speaker 3: But I can't perfect.
Speaker 1: I love it, the little radio habits.
Speaker 3: I didn't mean that it's a slam. I like that
you named it.
Speaker 1: What do you think God is calling you to do professionally?
And I don't know that you separate that from being
don't call yourself a milkmaker. I got it.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that women who have to.
Speaker 3: Be It is one of my top jobs in life
right now. Which actually, you know, when I was talking
about the adoption thing, it's incredible because what that the
path that that led me down, I did not expect
in a million years. I did not realize that that
would lead me towards okay, yes, just you know, having
my own biological child. No, that led me on the
path towards this whole world of medical freedom, this whole
world like oh, in my opinion, I'm a little bit
radical when it comes to the birth thing. My eyes,
in my opinion, have been opened to the fact that
birth is something, and I realize there are emergencies. This
is not a shaming thing for women that have had
actual emergencies, and praise God for the hospitals when there
really are emergencies. But I think that it's something that
God made women to do that has completely been twisted
and altered and the whole experience has been I mean, dude,
I could go off on a whole thing about that,
and I did not expect that, like having my babies
at home. The minute I met them, it was such
a like almost one of my first thoughts was, this
is why they don't want people to have babies. Like,
even if I hadn't had that natural birth experience, I
think it's still the same thing. But I think that
all of it kind of builds together and holds hands
and it's like, wow, this natural birth experience in my environment,
in my home, grabbing my baby and holding them. It's like,
I mean, it's one of the closest feelings I've ever
had to God, because this person just comes out of
you and you're like what, they're looking at you, they're crying,
they're making noise, and you're like a brand new person,
Like what it's I mean, I have chills because it
was so soul altering and so yes, the milkmaker joke
is a joke, but that's a whole other thing. I
could go off on, like a rant about formula and
the lies that have been sold to women about their
bodies not working properly, and what milk like the fact
that God made us to make that milk for our babies.
Immune systems are meant to be built a certain way,
and I think that making milk is part of that.
So I am kidding, and that I'm not kidding because
I do believe that is one of the top jobs
that God has for me right now, is establishing my
baby's lives through being a milkmaker.
Speaker 1: No, that's perfect. No, but the fake people are making
another run at breast milk is not healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh exactly, We're going to give you some unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And they did that early on. They did that to me.
My mom gave into that, I think because a pediatrician said, right,
And but the powder, the powder, missus Herman.
Speaker 3: I know it's going to be so much, and I
know you and I are on the same page in
regards to all of that. I seen you talk enough
about this where I'm like, Okay, he gets it. Yeah,
But I didn't mean to not answer your question. To
answer your question, which is kind of still a non answer,
but it's a little bit of an answer. You know.
You had me start that book Experiencing God, and I'm
going through it slowly. It takes me a minute. I'm
also in another Bible study right now, but in I
think it was chapter one, he talks about, really what
my answer is to you, which is that we don't
have to know the whole plan in order to move forward.
And what I have known for the last three years
since the cancelation happened is like, Okay, my path forward
is not super clear, but God has made it clear
to me, my husband and my immediate family that I'm
not supposed to stop. You know, we did some marriage
counseling after everything went down, and it was pastoral counseling,
and the pastor echoed the same sentiment. He's like, dude,
if your husband, your family, you are not getting because
I'm like, maybe this is a sign I'm supposed to stop.
He's like, no, I don't think that's what's going on
if you're not getting a clear like stop. And so
at this point, I don't know where God's bringing me,
but I'm continuing to move forward. I am very passionate
as you can tell about a lot of topics. So
I'm going to continue to share, keep creating, praying for
God's wisdom and guidance. But I don't have a clear
trajectory like this is what I'm doing, see you all
there in four years, you know, five years. So I'm
just going to keep going forward and see what where
God leads me.
Speaker 1: It will involve I'm predicting and far for me to
put God. It will evolve communicating and involve this great
skill that He's given you, this conversational skill of people
listening feel like they're being talked with. So I appreciate
you coming on and what you're doing, and I accept
your kind offer to be on your program, which is
on YouTube much more successful than mine. But I beat
you in the audio sphere exactly, Beach in the audiosphere.
Speaker 3: Dude, I appreciate you bringing me on. You are the
first person really I've had. I've had kind of a
conversation about this with my friend Abby, but I haven't
really gotten to talk about this with people. And I've
been saying since I met you, like mom, I think
he is the perfect person to talk about this with
because he gets it. So I appreciate you bringing me
on your show. I'm really excited to interview you on mine.
You're actually going to be the first episode of my
brand new, relaunched podcast, so that's going to be exciting.
And I just I appreciate you and the work you're doing.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Nickie. Appreciate it all right, this is the
Todd Herman Show. Please go, be well, be strong, be kind,
and please make every effort to walk in the life
of Christ.