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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.

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For those of you who couldn't get enough of the

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Prince Andrew interview with BBC, well you're in luck. They're

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making a movie about the interview, and according to this

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report from Deadline, they want Hugh Grant to play Prince Andrew.

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So let's dive into this article from Deadline and let's

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see what's up. Headline Prince Andrews bombshell BBC interview to

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become a hot movie. Hugh Grant rumored to be on

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the wish list to portray the disgraced royal in Scoop.

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So the name of this movie is going to be

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Scoop and they want Hugh Grant to play Prince Andrew's

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bitch ass. I think that would be a good job,

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actually a good casting. Hugh Grant, very good actor, and

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I think you'd be able to hammer it home. The

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author of this article is Boz Bombing Boy. The story

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of how the BBA obtained the bombshell interview with Prince

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Andrew about his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein

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is to become a film called Scoop and Hugh Grant

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is one of the unconfirmed names on the wish list

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to portray the disgraced royal Deadline has learned, so anything

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with Hugh Grant attached to it is gonna come with

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a tremendous amount of publicity.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So when you get a lead character such as that,

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you're doing yourself a favor from the beginning, and then

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you add to it the solicious nature of all of this,

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and you have yourselves a hit on your hands. All

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you have to do is have a half competent script

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and people are gonna flock to see this movie. I

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know I'll be going to see it the day it

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comes out. Acclaimed your Honor. Screenwriter Peter Moffatt is writing

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the Scoop screenplay for the Lighthouse Film and TV production Company,

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which was launched two years ago by Hillary Salmon, Radford

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Neville and Nick Bess along with British indie Voltage TV.

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So this is an English production company and they're going

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all in. They want to make a movie on how

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this interview came about. And I'll tell you what, it's

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interesting content. We heard from the producer who put it

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all together and it was very, very telling and interesting

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to get a look behind the curtain how something like

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this comes about. Because remember, Prince Andrew wasn't forced into

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that interview. He could have turned it down. He could

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have said, no, thanks, want nothing to do with it.

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I'll speak to the authorities and that's it. But he

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didn't do that, right, So you got to tip your

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cap to BBC and to mate List and the rest

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of the crew for securing the interview in the first place.

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Now to get the inside story with sort of like

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a biopic almost, I am in one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I love movies like this, movies.

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Speaker 1: Like The Big Short, you know where they go and

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replay the scene for you. I love that kind of stuff,

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especially when the actual content, the original story, is compelling.

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The news is likely to be greeted with little amusement

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from Andrew's mother, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth IID and other

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members of the royal family. Buckingham Palace had hoped that

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when it came to the errant royal the less seen

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and heard the better. Well, again, they have no one

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to blame but themselves. They could force exile on this guy,

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but they haven't done it. Right now, we know Charles

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and William have had a few things to say, But

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the real issue at hand here is the Queen is

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blocking everybody from making a move on Andrew.

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Speaker 2: He's her favorite.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't want to see anything else happen to him,

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so she's putting the kabash on things. But the more

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you keep him in the public eye, the more he's

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out there, people are gonna want to dissect what happened,

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and people are gonna want to know more information. And

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that's why this movie such as this is going to

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be a blockbuster, because people want more information. The car

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crash interview had such an impact that the Duke of

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York was banished from royal duties. He was notably an

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absentia during the Queen's Platinum jew Belief festivities last month.

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Well remember he had COVID, right, Or that's what he said.

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With COVID being so transmittable, don't you think some other

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people that were part of his staff or he was around,

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they would have came down with it as well. Or

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was him getting COVID just a bit of a crafted

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storyline so he could save some face. Moffitt and Salmon

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both confirmed the news today, telling Deadline that production will

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be set up quickly. They intend for shooting to begin

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in November. A director has not yet been assigned, nor

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has cast him begun, although pitches have been made to

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selected agents. The reaction is always the same, Oh wow.

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Salmon said, if people want to be involved in a

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production like this, they understand this is going to be

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a big hit. People are gonna want to see this,

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and not just in the United States, not just in England, everywhere.

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So if you can get attached to something like this

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as an actor, one hundred percent, it's something you want

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to be involved with. When pushed on casting, Salmon said,

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we have, of course thoughts, but stressed no one is

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attached and she wouldn't comment on reports that Grant is

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in the mix. Moffatt explained that Scoop is about how

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the BBC Newsnight team got the scoop, then the actual

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filming of it, adding the other thing is why did

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he agree to do it? And I think that's one

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of the most pressing questions. Right, Prince Andrew should have

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never agreed to that interview, at least from his perspective, right,

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it was a bad idea and if he had Brettler

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as his counselor at that point, he would have never

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been involved with that interview, And if Prince Andrew was smart,

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he would have put all the blame on Epstein. Oh,

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I was blackmailed, whatever. But he couldn't even come up

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with something like that. How was it that he decided

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it was a good idea to do a great, big,

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long interview with Emily Matitless on the BBC. Moffatt asked

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incredulously as he reflected on the Duke's arrogance, ignorance and

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his charm, which he said quite often covers up for

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the bad stuff. That's what I think. And yeah, look,

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when you have a scumbag behind closed doors, a lot

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of times in public they have a different face on,

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but when that door closes, that face comes off and

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the serpent shows itself. Scoop will be based on Scoops

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behind the Scenes of the BBC's Most Shocking Interviews by

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Sam McAllister, a former Newsnight producer, which Samon said she

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optioned almost immediately. So that's the producer Sam McAllister that

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we had heard from previously about how this came about

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and about how she was able to secure this interview.

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With Prince Andrew and now they're going to put it

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into a movie form. And let me tell you what

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I am here for it, folks, I am excited about

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this one, packed with juicy, jaw dropping detail. McAllister accounts

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how she matelist as Me Wren, former Newsnight Editor Now

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Newsnight Now It's editor, secured the interview with the Duke

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of York, which broadcast in November of twenty nineteen, two

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months after Epstein was found dead in his jail cell.

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And I remember when the interview was happening. It was

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just mind blowing that this guy was such a boob.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, if I had any reservations up to that point,

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they were all stuffed after I heard him bumble his

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way through that interview. Salmon and Moffatt have collaborated previously

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I'm sure they're pretty decent. I know that that's sixty

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first Street. A lot of people are talking about it,

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so I hope that the movie will be good too.

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to really screw it up big time for it not

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to be entertaining, right.

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Speaker 2: Maitliss?

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Speaker 1: Then Newsnight's lead presenter forensically examined the Duke's relationship with

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Epstein and his paramore, Glene Maxwell. Paramore you mean co conspirator, general,

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all around scusbag and fellow child abuser. That's what you meant, right,

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who last year was convicted of child sex trafficking and

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other offenses. During the interview, the Prince said that he

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regretted continuing to associate with Epstein after the financier pedophile

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pled guilty to soliciting underage sex in two thousand and eight. However,

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the fact that he offered no apology to Epstein's survivors

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caused uproar and global headlines Life in a bubble, Samon said,

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was happening him not coming out and having any empathy

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Speaker 1: And if he really cared about what happened, and he

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wanted to do the right thing. He would have stepped

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up to the plate, wouldn'ty. He would have talked to

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the police, the FBI, somebody. The story Moffitt wants to

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tell is how Sam and those two extraordinary women Emily

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and Esmy made the interview happen under real stress and pressure,

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because once it was agreed, it happened in secret. Almost

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nobody inside the BBC could know about it for fear

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Speaker 1: Think about the stress leading up to it, not wanting

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it to leak, keeping it under wrap, and hoping beyond

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to be extremely relevant in court later, a real responsibility,

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particularly to Epstein's survivors. It was our one shot at

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looking at what Andrew had to say about Epstein. The

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seriousness with which Emily, Esmey and Sam were taking it,

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of course, was right, and they all deserve a big

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pat on the back. This was a big deal interview

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and the rest of it, Andrew would be in serious

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jeopardy over this interview. Admitting that this sounds a little crass,

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team and members of the Duke household is Private Secretary

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her father to a meeting with the BBC, makes for

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Speaker 1: Look, because they're gonna dramatize it. Obviously, we're gonna get

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a look behind the scenes at what Prince Andrew and

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at his daughter and Amanda Thirsk, and at least get

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a dramatized version of what his mind space was at

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the time. And for me, that's very interesting when it

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Salmon noted how sections of McAllister's book, which created a

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stir when it was serialized in the Daily Mail and

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published today July fourteenth, show how out of touch the

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Duke was. All the opportunities that Emily gave him to

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say the right things, to justify his French with Epstein,

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to say how sorry he was were wasted opportunities on

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the Duke's part. Well, that's because he really believes he

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didn't do anything wrong. The hubris and the ego and

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the narcissism. It won't let him have any sort of

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self reflection and he truly believes he did nothing wrong. Meanwhile,

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we all know that's not the case, and most of

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us out here believe everything Virginia has to say about

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this guy. Moffatt added that he has subsequently learned that

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once the cameras had stopped rolling, Maitlis had repeated her

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offer for him to go back in front of the cameras.

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Newsnight couldn't have been fairer to him.

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 1: The Duke was oblivious to how his performance had gone

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down in the room. He thought it had gone extremely well,

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said Salmon. The trouble with the Duke is that everybody

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laughs at his jokes all of the time, added Moffatt,

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who went on to say I don't think anybody ever

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those things give you a level of entitlement. He always

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feels in control of the time and space around him. Well,

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that goes back to his childhood and his rearing and

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his upbringing. But it certainly tracks with everything else we know.

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interview is being set up in a stateroom in Buckingham Palace,

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guy who's just used to all that stuff, said Moffatt.

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Imagine being a sound guy and having this knucklehead tell

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you how to put the mics on correctly. Here's an idea,

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Prince Andrew. Stick to what you know. That's grifting and

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being an asshole. Chunks of the Newsnight interview will be

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recreated for Scoop, but no real BBC footage will be used.

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Moffittt said that McAllister has been a huge help. But

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asked if cordiers at Buckingham Palace had participated in Moffatt's research,

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Salmon responded carefully, We've reached out to a wide variety

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of people who are involved behind the scenes of the

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interview and we're still in that process. Sam McAllister's book

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Scoops is published by One World Productions. McAllister is represented

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by Jen Thomas at United Agents, who negotiated the film rights. Well,

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another bit of media about Epstein, Maxwell or Andrew is

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in the works, folks, And I'll tell you what. This

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will be a good one for those of you who

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were interested in the interview and what went on behind

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the scenes. This is going to be your chance to

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get a good hard look, all right, folks. That's gonna

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do it for this episode. If you'd like to contact me,

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you can do that at Bobby Capuci at ProtonMail dot com.

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dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at

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be found in the description box. What's up everyone, and

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welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Sam McAllister, the producer

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who was responsible for wrangling up the Prince Andrew interview,

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is now facing backlash from her former colleagues at the BBC,

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as unnamed sources, unnamed people working at the BBC have

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come out and said that they're not too happy that

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she is cashing in here.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The question is why is BBC so worried about what

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Sam McAllister is doing? Did she or did she not

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wrangle this interview? And if she did, well, stop with

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the sour grapes. It's also been reported that there are

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some in the royal family who aren't too happy as well.

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My response to that is who cares at this point?

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Who really cares what those people think? What are you

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gonna lose access to being able to visit Prince Andrew?

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Speaker 2: Ah shucks.

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Speaker 1: So today we have an article from the Telegraph and

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the author of this article is Victorio Wood headline BBC

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anger as ex producer steals glory for Emily maitlist Prince

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Andrew interview. Sam McAllister catches in on scoop with her book,

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which is now being turned into a film, also ruffling

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some feathers in the royal family. Wouldn't it be scales

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in the royal family. Aren't they lizard people? So how

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would they have feathers? Isn't that what some of the

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conspiracy theorists talk about. They're lizard people, so I don't

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understand the feather comment here. All right, all kidding aside,

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let's dive in. It was the scoop of the decade,

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an extraordinary encounter that brought an abrupt end to the

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Duke of York's royal career. But the mastermind behind the

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Duke's now infamous Newsnight interview with Emily Maitlis is facing

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a backlash at the BBC, where senior figures are frustrated

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that she appears claiming all the glory while at the

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same time exploiting the process for financial gain. What what

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is BBC doing? Doesn't BBC exploit everything for financial gain,

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Every single heartbreaking story there is, they have to run

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it on the front page. Any sort of divisive bullshit,

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they have to run it on the front page. But

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now that Sam McCallister is trying to make a couple

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of bucks on the back of her work. By the way,

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let's not act like she's stealing somebody else's glory here,

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she's the one who wrangled up these interviews. Yes or no,

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nobody's come out and said that she's not. So what's

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the sour grapes about?

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Speaker 2: Are you mad?

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Speaker 1: Because she he's getting some glory here and the unnamed

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figures at BBC, Well, go on the record and say it.

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I can't stand all of these anonymous sources. Just go

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on the record and stop being a chunk. Sam McAllister,

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the former BBC producer who helped negotiate the November twenty

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nineteen interview, wrote a book detailing her version of events,

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which was recently snapped up by a film production company,

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And why wouldn't it be? There's obviously a lot of

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interest in the story. Still, there's obviously a lot of

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interest in Ms McAllister's version of the story, So why

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wouldn't a company swoop in and buy the rights? If

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I was producing films, I'd want as much content like

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this as I possibly could get. The book was serialized

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in a national newspaper, and McAllister has done a myriad

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of interviews in which she details every meeting, conversation and

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negotiation that preceded the interview. BBC sources are quietly seething

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at what they perceived to be McAllister taking the lion's

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share of credit when the success of the interview was

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considered very much a team effort. So again, whoever over

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at the BBC, they have to have a little bit

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of the credit, right. They can't go through their life

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knowing somebody else who did a lot of work gets

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the credit. So the big shots, the unnamed sources, the

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seething BBC sources, instead talk to the Telegraph. It's typical

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for media organizations or corporations to do stuff exactly like that.

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They'll cherry pick their favored members of the media that

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write good, wholesome stories about them even when they shouldn't,

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and then they'll have that person in the media or

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that outlet run a puff piece on them. And that's

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basically what's going on here BBC. Some jerk off at BBC,

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some unnamed source reached out to the Telegraph, a paper

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that's been relatively friendly to Glenn Maxwell, by the way,

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and now they're running this story talking about how Sam

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McAllister shouldn't be trying to steal all the glory, trying

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to put her in a light like she's doing something

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wrong by trying to cash in and make a few bugs.

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None dispute that the former producer played a critical role

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in securing the award winning scoop, but many of her colleagues,

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including Matelists, who won Interview of the Year for the

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program at the British Journalism Awards in twenty twenty, are

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reduced to peripheral figures in various publicity interviews and webinars. Well,

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you know why, because everybody's the hero in their own story, folks.

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I know that's breaking news, but I mean, come on,

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what is she supposed to say she's trying to sell

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a book. I was the central figure and get this interview,

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and no one's disputing that she played a critical role

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in securing them. So why even be childish and run

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to your friends over at the Telegraph and winge and cry.

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There is irritation and upset that the interview and events

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leading up to it have been monetized. One of the

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main reasons the Duke agreed to go on Newsnight was

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because of the program's gravitas and reputation for conducting in depth,

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hard hitting interviews. Sources contend. Sources contend their sources over

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at the Telegraph I'm guessing are Prince Andrew himself and

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his circle. They have run many, many favorable pieces in

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the Telegram for I mean the Telegraph, for Prince Andrew

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throughout this whole entire thing, and even for Glenne Maxwell.

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So the Telegraph is one of those outlets that I

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look at kind of like here in America, the same

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way I look at something like, you know, guard garbage ass.

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Washington Post another one of these outlets that really has

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no desire to truly educate. They only want to divide.

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And furthermore, who cares what Prince Andrew understood? Oh well,

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he chose to go with these guys because they wouldn't

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spill the beans on him. Afterwards, Well, guess what it's

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about time someone spilled the beans on his bitch ass.

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Speaker 2: In this case, it has been.

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Speaker 1: Blown wide open with every cough and spit repeated time

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and time again. A BBC insider said there is internal

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disappointment because it is not the done thing to expose

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how you go about these journalistic practices, and also because

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a lot of people who did a considerable amount of

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work on this show are being written out of the

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process in pursuit of one person's career. Former colleagues find

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that disappointing. Here's an idea, write your own book. And furthermore,

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these journalistic practices, what is this a magician shop? What

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do you phil fucking Dunfey over here? Oh, I can't

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tell you the secrets of my magic trick. Take it easy, okay.

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Nobody cares about your journalistic internal practices. We all know

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your scumbags, we all know how you roll, and we

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all know that you were running cover for Epstein and

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Maxwell and probably Jimmy Saville as well, at both BBC

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and Buckingham Palace. There is also a frustration that McAllister's

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version of events is being accepted as fact.

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Speaker 2: Oh here we go.

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Speaker 1: So the Palace says jump, and the telegraph says, well,

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how high? And it goes over and over and over again.

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You know, it's pretty funny when you see outlets, especially

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journalistic outlets like this, try and whitewash bullshit. You mean

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to tell me that the BBC can't write their own

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version of events. If you take dispute with what Sam

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McAllister has to say, write your own book. Nobody's stopping you.

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One royal source echoed the Queen on the subject, Riley,

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noting that recollections may vary. There are specific critical details

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which several insiders can test. Oh, I'm sure there are.

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And you notice they say insiders sources, they never give

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you a name. So I'm gonna go with maybe the

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Telegraph's just running bullshit here? How about that?

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if I believe them?

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Speaker 1: Who are their sources? I have a big problem with

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the whole unnamed sources thing. Now, when you're talking about

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unnamed sources for national security reasons, that's one thing.

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Speaker 2: But what are you so worried about going on the

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record for here?

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Speaker 1: If you work at BBC, if you're pissed off at

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Sam McAllister, why try and take shots at her underhanded,

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coward like in the media instead of just calling her

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up and addressing it directly. Another said they certainly do

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not recognize everything that has been stated.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Samic mac allisters went on record

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saying this with her name a book, doing a media tour,

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and unnamed sources are saying some of it's not true.

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So until you people go on record and you know,

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put your name behind your bullshit, kind of hard to

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believe what you have to say. McAllister claims the Duke

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agreed to the interview after she taunted him about his

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Randy Andy nickname. Multiple sources can test McAllister's claim that

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Donald McCabe, the Queen's Communication secretary, only fleetingly popped into

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the interview room and left before the camera started rolling,

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a move she brands a missed opportunity. In fact, they

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say mister McCabe was in the room throughout, diligently making notes.

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Well if that's the case, isn't that even worse? How

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don't you stop the interview? You just let it happen. So,

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mister McCabe, even if he was there is an absolute

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toolbag way to go. Mister McCabe, you should be fired

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right along with Amanda Thirsk. For the Duke, the fallout

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from the interview was catastrophic. It came after Virginia Roberts,

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who was widely trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein, the convicted sex offender,

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claimed she was flown to London and forced to have

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sex with him when she was seventeen. Quiz by matlists,

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the Duke failed to express any regret over his friendship

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with Epstein. Or empathy for his victims, not victims survivors.

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What I mean, it's the telegraph, okay, Like did the

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whole entire newsroom fallen at their head? Why are you

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still calling people victims survivors? Is your first day or

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is it an underhanded uh, you know, slap towards the survivors.

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There's no reason to still be calling these ladies victims

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after all of these years, and especially after they themselves

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have come out and said that they'd prefer not to

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be called that. He insisted he had no recollection of

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meeting Miss Roberts and said he was at Pizza Express

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and woking on the night in question, also revealing that

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he did not sweat to u to a peculiar medical condition.

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I mean, imagine coming out and saying that in an interview. Well,

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I couldn't have done what you said I did because

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I can't sweat. Oh I'm also allergic to horses, but

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I just rode one over here. It's the kind of bullshit,

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ludicrous nonsense. This guy has been pitching like he was

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Max Scherzer for the last ten years. Within days, he

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had been effectively sacked as a working member of the

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royal family, Several months later, he was served with court

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papers in a civil sex abuse case that ended with

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him paying Miss Roberts around twelve million pounds without admitting liability.

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Yep again, because everybody who has never done anything like

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this is just gonna pay all this money out that

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they don't even have.

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Speaker 2: Bro is broke.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't for his mom and there drifting, what

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would he be doing for a living? What exactly is

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his skill set? Despite the dramatic consequences, the monetization of

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the interview was not expected, and many at the Palace

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consider it unedifying. Oh okay, that's nice. So in other words,

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we don't want you to make a book, so we're

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gonna come out and say that it's all a cash grab.

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They're so transparent at this point, they're so transparent, they're translucent.

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How can anyone look at the royal family and not

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just want to mock them and be sarcastic about the

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stupidity that they're getting up to. A friend of the

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Duke told the Telegraph, you notice how the Telegraph knows

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a lot of Prince Andrew's friends, and how they're quick

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to go and talk to the Telegraph. Oh I wonder

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why the latest exploitation for financial gain of a book

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and now a film of what was and remains a

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very difficult time for the family is unwelcome, not least

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as the account of events leading up to and around

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the interview appear to have elements of dramatic license. So

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this is really ironic, isn't it. They're out here talking

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about how this is unwelcome. You know what else was unwelcome?

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And I'm pretty sure I can speak for people when

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I say this. The fact that Prince Andrew was palling

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around Jeffrey Epstein, the fact that Prince Andrew was at

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Jeffrey Epstein's house while someone was getting raped, the fact

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that Prince Andrew allegedly was engaged in the abuse himself.

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So you want to talk about unwelcome, all of that's

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unwelcome too. Sorry that the royal family's being put on blast,

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But guess what, it's not the year ten ninety nine anymore.

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It's not the year fourteen hundred, and there's no tutors

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coming to chop off anyone's head. So you're gonna have

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to deal with the criticism like everybody else. Put on

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your big boy pants, your big girl pants and get

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to it. And if you don't want criticism like this,

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here's an idea conduct yourselves correctly. Recent claims in the

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media surrounding the alleged existence of a shocking photograph of

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the Duke, said to have been captured by a photographer

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working for the BBC on the day of the interview,

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have also been dismissed as nonsense. No one involved is

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said to have seen or heard of such a photograph.

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Speaker 2: No one but the people. Huh.

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Speaker 1: So again this this is a puff piece right here, folks,

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I want you to understand what this article is. This

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article is trying to run cover for the Royals, for

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BBC and for Prince Andrew. That's exactly what it is.

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And the Telegraph has been at it since the beginning.

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In her book Scoops, McAllister repeats a celebratory tweet from

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Asmi Wren, the Newsnight editor, who paid full credit to

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her for securing the world exclusive. The producer writes, credit

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is a tricky issue. Others had worked with me and

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had borne the strains too. I wanted to make sure

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everyone got mentioned every time. After all, there was enough

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credit to go around for everyone. So why is everyone

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crying now because Sam was smart enough to cash in

519
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on it. I cannot stand sour grapes. And I really

520
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don't like people who hate on other people for success.

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That's the worst shit in the world. It's like everybody

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with an opinion who has never done shit. Oh, I

523
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can do this better, I can do that better, I

524
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can make this better.

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Speaker 2: Then do it?

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Speaker 1: What do you say and around for go and do

527
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:08,359
it and shut your yap. A spokesperson for One World,

528
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the publisher of scoops set, Sam's book speaks for itself

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and she shares credit in it and in interviews. A

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BBC spokesman declined to comment, noting that once staff have

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left the BBC, they have left. Buckingham Palace declined to comment. Boy,

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this sure sings to me like sour grapes, folks. And

533
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if you do work as far as being a producer

534
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a field journalist, you should get all the credit in

535
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,720
the world for that, because guess what you think, Sean

536
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:41,039
Hannity's bitch ass, Tucker Carlson, Rachel Maddow, They're out on

537
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:44,359
the ground getting these stories. No, it's these producers that

538
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,279
are doing the real work. And then your favorite newsreaders

539
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,359
who are making as much as athletes, by the way,

540
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just mimic and parrot what is put in front of them.

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So yeah, Sam McAllister, other field producers, they should get

542
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,960
some credit. And if they want to make a book,

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God bless and if the people at the BBC and

544
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:04,480
the Royal family don't like it, well you know what

545
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they can do, right, they can all shut their yaps.

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All right, everybody that's gonna do it for this episode.

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I'll be back later on with a little bit more

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and I hope that all of you have a fantastic Sunday.

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If you'd like to contact me, you can do that

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at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O

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