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Speaker 1: welcome to the show, Michael g Retchiehi and Michael.
Speaker 2: I'm fine, Thank you, Alex hell you.
Speaker 1: I am doing fantastic, my friend, Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us today on the show. I've been doing
Speaker 1: some research on the work that you've been doing for
Speaker 1: a few years now, a couple of years you've been
Speaker 1: doing this many years, yes, a few years that you've
Speaker 1: been doing the Joseph Communications, and the work that you've
Speaker 1: been doing is really beautiful and really helpful to humanity,
Speaker 1: and I think I think it's you know, we really need
Speaker 1: to put a shot a spotlight on this work that
Speaker 1: you've been doing over these years, because it's very powerful,
Speaker 1: powerful knowledge, powerful information, powerful energy that the Earth I
Speaker 1: think truly needs right now. So before we even get started,
Speaker 1: I appreciate all the work that you've been doing all
Speaker 1: these years, my friend, So thank you, thank you. So
Speaker 1: you are a you are a trans a trance medium
Speaker 1: which is another word for a channel, essentially correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, yeah.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: Exactly. So let's go back.
Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit. What was your what
Speaker 1: was your childhood like before any of this began?
Speaker 3: You know, did you yeah? Did you wake up? And
Speaker 3: did you did? Four years old?
Speaker 1: Did you like, I need to be a trans medium
Speaker 1: when I get older, Like, how did.
Speaker 2: That work out? At four years old, I wondered why
Speaker 2: there was someone sitting in my bedroom chair in the
Speaker 2: morning when I woke up. Of course, at four years old,
Speaker 2: I wondered why ielt so strange when I went into
Speaker 2: buildings that I hadn't been in before. At four years old,
Speaker 2: if I went into a crowd situation, I wondered why
Speaker 2: I was completely drained. And at five years old, I
Speaker 2: was obsessed with death. While still the children were playing football,
Speaker 2: playing out, I was worrying because I knew that I'd
Speaker 2: have to die one day and that didn't make sense
Speaker 2: to me. And I thought, even at that young age,
Speaker 2: if no matter what I achieve in life, what's the point,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to die. I was brought a Catholic.
Speaker 2: I was considered at the priesthood for a while, and
Speaker 2: my parents blessed them, were wonderful about how I was,
Speaker 2: but didn't understand it. And it wasn't until my early
Speaker 2: twenties when I went to a traumatic emotional experience. But
Speaker 2: as a result of coming out of that experience, I
Speaker 2: began to investigate the bigger picture, the spiritual side of life,
Speaker 2: and that led me to developing as a medium. I
Speaker 2: sat with my spiritual mentor for seven years. I was
Speaker 2: working at the time full time advertising executive, world away
Speaker 2: from what I now.
Speaker 3: Do, very spiritual, very spiritually. I worked also at the industry.
Speaker 2: It was small potatoes though it wasn't on a grand scale,
Speaker 2: and I would sit with my spiritual mentor, Joe once
Speaker 2: a week, every Sunday, and we would tune in. And
Speaker 2: the remarkable thing was that as we tuned in, we
Speaker 2: would see the same people, the same personalities, and Joe
Speaker 2: would be able to start a message, a communication. I
Speaker 2: would take the middle bit and she would take the
Speaker 2: end bit. Now you can imagine how that boosted my
Speaker 2: confidence in that I wasn't going mad. I was actually
Speaker 2: in touch with something greater than this world, something more
Speaker 2: advanced than this world. And at the end of that period,
Speaker 2: I began to take services in spirituals churches, and I
Speaker 2: began to take one to want readings with people. But
Speaker 2: I was never satisfying with that alex because I wanted
Speaker 2: to know more. Yes, it was fine to speak one,
Speaker 2: to want to someone and to give them comfort from
Speaker 2: their relatives and from their friends in another dimension. But
Speaker 2: I was concerned with the world. I was concerned with
Speaker 2: this world, and I was concerned with the other world.
Speaker 2: If these communications were coming to me, which they were,
Speaker 2: where were they coming from, what was their purpose? And
Speaker 2: rather than addressing one person at the time, how about
Speaker 2: addressing the whole world? Because the whole world needs it,
Speaker 2: and the whole world isn't aware of its spiritual heritage,
Speaker 2: isn't aware of the bigger picture. And that's what concerned me.
Speaker 2: And so, after many years of working professionally as medium,
Speaker 2: I sat with John, my mentor, and one day she
Speaker 2: revealed something to me that I hadn't known. And we'd
Speaker 2: known each other for years, she was like a second
Speaker 2: mother to but on this particular day, she looked crestfall,
Speaker 2: she looked unhappy, and she revealed that she'd been a transmedian.
Speaker 2: But she'd been a trans medium in her own home
Speaker 2: and she'd sat with a close friend and as she
Speaker 2: was taken over, the close friend had written down the
Speaker 2: communication that came through long hat. How she did that,
Speaker 2: I don't know, because it comes through a speed. But
Speaker 2: then the close friend passed, and at the close friend's funeral,
Speaker 2: her daughter came up to John and said, is there
Speaker 2: any keepsake from my mother that you'd like? And John said, yes, please.
Speaker 2: That book that put us in touch with somebody that
Speaker 2: she called the Man in Red is very important to me.
Speaker 2: It's very important to the world. There's wonderful philosophies in there.
Speaker 2: Could I have that place? And the daughter said, that
Speaker 2: book is the work of the devil. I've thrown it
Speaker 2: on the fire. Now, Joan, all these years later, this
Speaker 2: had happened some years ago, was still suffering from that.
Speaker 2: I could see how upset she was that that information
Speaker 2: had been lost. And by that time, I've been working
Speaker 2: as a meetium for around seven years, and the cog
Speaker 2: started turning in my head and I thought, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: I don't think that information is lost. I think I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I think that I can bring it through.
Speaker 2: So I suggested this to Joan, and she was ecstatic
Speaker 2: about this. She said, yes, we can sit. Next week
Speaker 2: we'll start and I said, well, no, I've got a
Speaker 2: friend who for many years has wanted to be involved
Speaker 2: in a serious spiritual project with me, and I feel
Speaker 2: that I should sit with him. And she said that's fine.
Speaker 2: There was no ego. Yeah, that's fine, do it. See
Speaker 2: what happens. And so we my friend had an attic
Speaker 2: space in a little terraced house in the northwest of England,
Speaker 2: and so we decided on a Friday afternoon that we
Speaker 2: would turn the phones off. You could unplug the phones
Speaker 2: in those days, and we went up into the attic space,
Speaker 2: put a tape in the recorder cassette tepe and instantly
Speaker 2: somebody wanted to talk to me. In those days, it
Speaker 2: was clairvoyance. It wasn't trance, and the connection was a
Speaker 2: little rocky because I hadn't connected with that person before.
Speaker 2: It lasted for around forty to forty five minutes, and
Speaker 2: at the end of it we switched the tape off.
Speaker 2: I was exhausted, completely worn out, and I looked at David,
Speaker 2: my friend, and I said, we've got something here. This
Speaker 2: is not snippets of information, this is a narrative. This
Speaker 2: is a complete chapter and if we sit regularly, then
Speaker 2: we're going to have a book. I don't know what
Speaker 2: we'll do with that book. I don't know how we'll
Speaker 2: get it printed, but there is the makings of a
Speaker 2: book of highly spiritual information there. And it went on
Speaker 2: from there, and at the end of the first book, Revelation,
Speaker 2: Joseph announced that I will be doing a second book.
Speaker 2: You know, there was no getting of the book, and
Speaker 2: so we brought for the second book, Illumination. And at
Speaker 2: that time we connected my partner Jane and myself connected
Speaker 2: with a gentleman called Tony, who is part of the
Speaker 2: technical crew that you saw earlier, who has a fabulous
Speaker 2: place called the Sanctuary of Healing in Lancashire. It's a
Speaker 2: complimentary technique place where people come to be healed, where
Speaker 2: people come for spiritual inspiration and information. And he was
Speaker 2: given the first book. He didn't realize we were just
Speaker 2: down the road from him, and that he sat up
Speaker 2: all night reading this book and kept jabbing his wife
Speaker 2: in the ribs and saying, Sheila, this is a wonderful book.
Speaker 2: Where are these people? He saw our address, We were
Speaker 2: just down the road. He invited us in and he said,
Speaker 2: where are you with the second book? And I said, well,
Speaker 2: we've put it together, but we haven't printed it yet.
Speaker 2: Instantly wrote as a check to publish the second book,
Speaker 2: but only that. We decided that we would take Joseph
Speaker 2: on the road, as it were, to prove to people
Speaker 2: that we weren't making this up, that there was actually
Speaker 2: a spirit talking to people and giving this information. So
Speaker 2: in the Sanctuary Healing, we're in the Sanctuary Healing now.
Speaker 2: We held a number of trans evenings and I was terrified.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what would happen. I thought, what happens
Speaker 2: if doesn't come through?
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 2: So I would sit in this room, which is Tony's office,
Speaker 2: and Jane would instruct the people how to behave during
Speaker 2: the trans session, and she would say, don't open suites,
Speaker 2: please turn your phones off, don't talk to each other,
Speaker 2: and all of those things they did do during the
Speaker 2: draft session. And then she would comfort me and I
Speaker 2: walked down the sort of hallway. I would sit down
Speaker 2: as myself, I'd take a breath, and I'd stand up
Speaker 2: as Joseph, and he would talk for up to half
Speaker 2: an hour and a half, and I was rooted to
Speaker 2: the spot from the torso downwards didn't move at all.
Speaker 2: I closed my eyes and just let him talk and
Speaker 2: talk and talk. And we held transcessions around the country
Speaker 2: and in Ireland. And as we were doing this, we
Speaker 2: were also preparing the third book, Your Life After Death.
Speaker 2: And I've got to say at this Stagehounts that we
Speaker 2: don't look for profit from the books. We look to
Speaker 2: pay for the print of the books, but we don't
Speaker 2: take any money. We want this information out as far
Speaker 2: and as wide as possible. When my partner Jane and
Speaker 2: myself got together, immediately we were contacted by members of
Speaker 2: Joseph Soul Group night and day. I was younger then,
Speaker 2: I had the energy then, and night and day. For
Speaker 2: two years, three years, all this information was coming through
Speaker 2: from different communicators about life, the universe and everything. And
Speaker 2: initially Jane was writing this down Longhan and we eventually
Speaker 2: published all those lectures or addresses better word, in a
Speaker 2: book called Many Voices, One Mission that collected all those
Speaker 2: communications together into different sections health, Approach to Life, Approach
Speaker 2: to Death, Approach to Spiritual Realms, Personal Spirituality, and we
Speaker 2: also transcribed all the transmittings that we hadn't and put
Speaker 2: those together into a collective volume called Transmission, and it's
Speaker 2: gone on now for decades.
Speaker 3: Michael, let me ask you before we continue.
Speaker 1: You were raised Catholic, and I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people I was also raised Catholic, a lot of people,
Speaker 1: not only Catholic, but other any religion when they have
Speaker 1: that kind of programming, and I call it programming, and
Speaker 1: I don't mean that a negative way. It's just what
Speaker 1: our caretakers are, our parents did because that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's how we chose this path as assault.
Speaker 3: We came down. How did you It doesn't seem like
Speaker 3: you had any.
Speaker 1: Issues with how what you're doing now is obviously as
Speaker 1: that lady said, the Devil's work.
Speaker 3: So was there any reconciliation with.
Speaker 1: You or it just was like, yeah, that whole Catholic thing,
Speaker 1: I'm not it's not ringing true for me. Or did
Speaker 1: you bring in did you keep any of Jesus's true
Speaker 1: teachings as opposed to the Church's teachings or Paul's teachings
Speaker 1: or anything like that with your work.
Speaker 2: Kept all of the christ teachings, the Christos teachings. Yes,
Speaker 2: I rejected aspects of the dogma because they didn't make
Speaker 2: sense to him. A teenager, I was bullied at school,
Speaker 2: and I found that I could forgive those people. There
Speaker 2: was nothing to forgive, really, but I found that I
Speaker 2: could forgive them. And to my mind, I thought, if
Speaker 2: I can forgive some that has attacked me repeated them,
Speaker 2: how can I believe in a god that if I
Speaker 2: do something wrong in inverted commons will condemn me to
Speaker 2: a negative situation forever? And it didn't make sense.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: This is a God of love. How can a god
Speaker 2: of love treat people in that way? And so the
Speaker 2: first steps away from the religious dogma were already there,
Speaker 2: and then, through various emotional upsets as I was growing up,
Speaker 2: I did walk away from the church, but not from
Speaker 2: the teachers.
Speaker 3: Were you ever frightened by this stuff?
Speaker 1: Or you always just kind of comfort ya explain? Because
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean, I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but when I wake up in the morning and I
Speaker 1: see someone that I don't know sitting there at the
Speaker 1: edge of my bed at four years old or at
Speaker 1: forty years old, it doesn't matter. I'm there's something gonna
Speaker 1: get something's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: So you know, now, I'm.
Speaker 1: Sure you're like oh, hi, Bob, and you just go
Speaker 1: have your coffee in the morning or your tea.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, isn't it. There was a person that was
Speaker 2: looking for a relative, a person from that sign looking
Speaker 2: for a relative on this side kept waking me up.
Speaker 2: This was whilst I was We're working and the advertising
Speaker 2: gave you at three o'clock in the morning, and they
Speaker 2: would stand by my bed. When you get so used
Speaker 2: to people, let's say, do you know what time it is?
Speaker 2: And I turn over and go back to sleep.
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Speaker 2: But initially as a child, yes, it was frightening, but
Speaker 2: it was also frightening because of my sensitivity. Was in
Speaker 2: order to connect as a medium and work as a
Speaker 2: transmitting you have to have a certain amount of sensitivity
Speaker 2: to higher vibrations, yes, and that makes you a very
Speaker 2: sensitive tuning for And I used to be friend of
Speaker 2: the fact that I didn't approach life as other people
Speaker 2: approached life, as the children around me approached life. And
Speaker 2: I used to think, not that there's anything wrong with them,
Speaker 2: but there was something wrong with me. Why am I different?
Speaker 2: Why is this happening to me? Why can I sense things?
Speaker 2: Why doesn't anybody understand? And this is all with the
Speaker 2: mind of a child, of course, But it wasn't until
Speaker 2: I began to sit with John, my spiritual mentor that
Speaker 2: everything made sense. And also, up until that time in
Speaker 2: my life, my mind was in control of me. My
Speaker 2: headmind was in control of me, and the chaos of
Speaker 2: the world was in control of me. As I began
Speaker 2: to open up to spiritual possibility and spiritual connection, suddenly
Speaker 2: I was in charge of me, not the world being
Speaker 2: in charge. And from that point onwards, my life expanded
Speaker 2: where it hadn't done before. But I was also fascinated,
Speaker 2: as well as being a little bit afraid. I was
Speaker 2: also fascinated by how things worked. There are communicators there,
Speaker 2: Where did they live? What's life like for them? How
Speaker 2: do they connect with us? Is there one heaven? Or
Speaker 2: is heaven a misnomer? Is heaven simply a frequency of vibration?
Speaker 2: But there are other frequencies of vibration above that, and
Speaker 2: above that, and about that and above that, and where
Speaker 2: do they eventually lead? So all these questions I wanted
Speaker 2: to ask, and I wanted answers to not for myself particularly,
Speaker 2: but to be able to say to people, there is
Speaker 2: a different way, There is a different world. There is
Speaker 2: a world that you can connect to. I out here,
Speaker 2: but most of all, in here, within you and within yourself,
Speaker 2: You'll find the answers to so many things. And it
Speaker 2: will change the way that you look at life, you
Speaker 2: look at other people, you treat other people, you treat
Speaker 2: this world, and it will bring you peace. It will
Speaker 2: take away your fear of death, it will take away
Speaker 2: your fear of each other. And so that was the motivation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, doing the work that I do with this show
Speaker 1: and other things that we do, the concept of death
Speaker 1: is not as fearful as it used to be to me,
Speaker 1: at least after speaking to over one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: near death experiencers alone. But just the experiences and the
Speaker 1: understandings of things that have happened to me, that's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's I'm like, oh, I'm just part of this.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just I'm enjoying the ride is a ride.
Speaker 1: We're enjoying it, and sometimes it's rough and sometimes it's fun,
Speaker 1: but it is it is that it's just a right.
Speaker 1: I have no fear truly of death. But like I
Speaker 1: always tell people, like Yeah, everybody wants to go to heaven.
Speaker 3: But just not right now.
Speaker 1: Uh So, during so, during this whole process, I asked
Speaker 1: this question because there's a lot of people listening who
Speaker 1: are going through what you're going through. They're either having
Speaker 1: their own spiritual awakening, things are opening up within them.
Speaker 1: Did you ever just feel like this is insane? I'm
Speaker 1: going crazy? I am you're psychosis and your brain You're like,
Speaker 1: I am, this can't be real. Did you have that
Speaker 1: happen and how did you deal with it and get
Speaker 1: out of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that's the things you want to answer. Yes,
Speaker 2: I did feel like I was going on, particularly as
Speaker 2: a child, felt like I was going But as I
Speaker 2: began to sit one too one with you, they understood
Speaker 2: what I was saying. They recognize the people that came through,
Speaker 2: they recognize the situations in their lives. They would ring
Speaker 2: me up and say, you told me X would happen,
Speaker 2: and it's just happened down to the smallest detail. Now,
Speaker 2: if I was going mad, that wouldn't happen. And so
Speaker 2: there was evidence upon evidence upon evidence, and that's what
Speaker 2: convinced me. I mean, I suppose sometimes I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm going mad. Now. But it's not because of the
Speaker 2: spiritual world. It's because of this world, and it's because
Speaker 2: of the influence of the collective field of human consciousness
Speaker 2: that we all contribute to. And the picture that we
Speaker 2: are forming at the moment is wrong, it's skewed. But
Speaker 2: if you're sensitive, as you know, you can pick that
Speaker 2: up and you can feel the insanity and you look
Speaker 2: at the world and you say, why are you getting
Speaker 2: up today and saying today I'm going to harm somebody
Speaker 2: and I don't care. Today, I'm going to look after
Speaker 2: me and nobody else. Today, I'm going to pursue the
Speaker 2: illusion of power. Today, I'm going to pursue the illusion
Speaker 2: of money. Those things are my God, Yeah, but they're empty,
Speaker 2: they're shallow, they don't bring you anywhere, they don't evolve
Speaker 2: you as the spirit that you really are. And so
Speaker 2: it's that side of the equation that is difficult to
Speaker 2: deal with. And that side of the equation is difficult
Speaker 2: to deal with when you come back from a transtrict
Speaker 2: because you feel that you are being plunged back into
Speaker 2: a heavier vibration, and that heavier vibration has a vicelike
Speaker 2: effect on you until your vibration slows down to match
Speaker 2: that frequency once again.
Speaker 1: It's almost it's almost like a decompression, like you've been
Speaker 1: in the demotion for such a long time and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're flown up into the air
Speaker 1: and now you're free and you can move clearly, and
Speaker 1: everything's so nice, and then you've plunged back down.
Speaker 3: It takes a minute for you to acclimate.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, actually in my case. And it must be
Speaker 2: different for every medium. I'm not saying it's like that
Speaker 2: for every meeting, but for me it can take days.
Speaker 2: Following bringing through a chapter of the Joseph Communications books,
Speaker 2: it would take me a week to recover. I'd stay in,
Speaker 2: I couldn't go out, and then I would just click back,
Speaker 2: say after four or five days, usually about four o'clock
Speaker 2: in the afternoon, I thought, oh, I'm back, I'm normal again.
Speaker 2: I can relate to this particular vibration.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Michael, though, so, from my experience
Speaker 1: working with psychics, mediums and channels, my understanding of their
Speaker 1: process on a physiology, on the physical level is that
Speaker 1: the nervous system needs to be upgraded to handle the
Speaker 1: amount of energy in the amount of frequency that comes in.
Speaker 1: If not, you can fry or something could pop. I
Speaker 1: mean literally, but generally from my understanding too, those energies
Speaker 1: don't come in until you're physically ready to handle them,
Speaker 1: and it might be a rough go of it, but
Speaker 1: eventually you do get used to it. So I know
Speaker 1: channelers who've been channeling for forty years and they pop
Speaker 1: in and pop out no problem because they're so used
Speaker 1: to that energy and that frequency. What is it about
Speaker 1: your process that it wipes you out? So I mean
Speaker 1: that sounds like from my experience early channeling, like I've
Speaker 1: heard of that happening with channels when they first start out,
Speaker 1: that they're brought in and they're just done, like they
Speaker 1: can't move. They'd like comatos for a couple of days
Speaker 1: and then but slowly it does acclimate.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't seem to have happened to you. Why
Speaker 3: do you what do you think is happening?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's because I contact different communicators
Speaker 2: on different levels. And if you've looked at our books,
Speaker 2: you've looked in particular our book before it it connected
Speaker 2: with an angelic level, connected levels possible, and I think
Speaker 2: that's the reason why it takes me so long to
Speaker 2: come back to normal, and then again, we're all put
Speaker 2: together in a different way, and it could be to
Speaker 2: do with my physicality. I'm not sure, but I would
Speaker 2: guess it's to do with the different frequencies that I
Speaker 2: connect with, and I'm never sure which frequency it's going
Speaker 2: to be. Joseph was one communicator. The person gentleman is
Speaker 2: another communicator. We have a gentleman we call the Big
Speaker 2: Indian another nickname because he's a tall gentleman and he
Speaker 2: was a Native American in one life, a lovely, loving spirit,
Speaker 2: and we communicate with him. But also I communicated on
Speaker 2: an angelic level, So I've communicated with beings that you
Speaker 2: would call angel and the after effect of that is extremely.
Speaker 1: Dready, I'm going to ask this question because there's people
Speaker 1: in the audience thinking it right now, because you are
Speaker 1: going to so many different entities or energies or beings
Speaker 1: that are coming in that you're channeling. Is what kind
Speaker 1: of stop gap or protection is there from you bringing
Speaker 1: in a negative entity quote unquote where people are like, well,
Speaker 1: are you just opening yourself up to all these people?
Speaker 1: What if a bad spirit comes in or what have you?
Speaker 2: Know?
Speaker 1: Something something negative some sort of you know, trickster, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. I asked that quote. I know the answer
Speaker 1: in my head, but I want you to answer for
Speaker 1: the audience, because it is.
Speaker 3: It's a question that gets asked a lot.
Speaker 2: No, that's fine. There are two answers to that. One
Speaker 2: is connection with the divine. So before any connection, I
Speaker 2: ask that I'm connected to the highest white light to
Speaker 2: divine love, and ask for divine protection, and that anything
Speaker 2: that comes through me and to me comes from that source,
Speaker 2: comes with that permission and cannot come from anywhere else.
Speaker 2: And the second protection is motive. What's my motive. My
Speaker 2: motive is not to cause chaos. My motive is to
Speaker 2: reconnect people with their spiritual ability, and not to say
Speaker 2: this is the way it is, but to say this
Speaker 2: is the way I have received it. Look at it
Speaker 2: if it offends you, sling it out. If it doesn't
Speaker 2: offend you, discover more, and at each stage go within
Speaker 2: to check via your heart center whether this information balances
Speaker 2: with you, connects with you, means something to me, and
Speaker 2: if it doesn't, throw it away. Not here to lecture
Speaker 2: or to change your mind on anything. I'm saying, here's
Speaker 2: some information. This is spiritual information. I believe it to
Speaker 2: be high spiritual information, and I believe that you will
Speaker 2: too if you examine it. But if you don't, that's fine.
Speaker 1: That is really aligned with what we promote here in
Speaker 1: next level Soul, which is the powers within you. Yes
Speaker 1: and yeah, not putting yourself up as a guru. And
Speaker 1: in the negative sense of guru. There is a positive
Speaker 1: sense to guru, but the negative sense of Guru where
Speaker 1: all the answers are through me, it's just another another
Speaker 1: avatar to the church. You're asking for a middleman or
Speaker 1: a middle woman to go to spirit where all the
Speaker 1: power does live within you, and you're trying to awaken
Speaker 1: that within people.
Speaker 3: And that's what we try to do here as well.
Speaker 3: So I appreciate that approach without question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to be able to bake off
Speaker 2: from it. So I'd love to be able to say
Speaker 2: job done, but I can't in conscience. It's in conscious
Speaker 2: that keeps me going. That's why I keep doing what
Speaker 2: I do or what we do do.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that there was that spirit at three o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning that kept waking you up. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: they're fun that way. Can you do it at six
Speaker 1: at least can I get a few more hours? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But for mediums, to my understanding, some have issues with it,
Speaker 1: but most have this on off switch, meaning like the
Speaker 1: open sign is in, the closed sign is on. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming you've developed that during your.
Speaker 2: Developed Yes, I used to see people all over the place.
Speaker 2: We once went into an antiques place, oh near and
Speaker 2: we're looking at a very nice table and the chap
Speaker 2: turned up and said, that's my table. And this poor
Speaker 2: spirit had been hanging around this table, preferring to to
Speaker 2: make sure that his table didn't go anywhere he didn't
Speaker 2: want it to go, rather than moving on into the light.
Speaker 2: I've had people come up to me in the street
Speaker 2: and say, I used to work here. I used to
Speaker 2: work in this mill. So you have to have an
Speaker 2: off switch. There has to be an off switch.
Speaker 3: I want to go into the deep end of the pool. Here.
Speaker 1: You on this, Michael, because I think this is going
Speaker 1: to be a fun conversation. So when spirits are like
Speaker 1: you're just explaining the table spirit will use a table
Speaker 1: spirit as an example. To my understanding, there is no
Speaker 1: past life or future life that all lives are happening
Speaker 1: at the same time, which is difficult for us to comprehend.
Speaker 1: So that means that there is an oversoul, if you will,
Speaker 1: or a higher self, whichever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: and that higher self has laid out multiple lifetimes. Could
Speaker 1: be millions, thousands, hundreds, we don't know, but they're all
Speaker 1: playing out at the same time, give or take. And
Speaker 1: again we think linear in a linear fashion because that's.
Speaker 3: What we are here.
Speaker 1: We're the other side to my understanding, does not that
Speaker 1: the table ghost, I'll call them the table spirit, the table.
Speaker 3: Ghost, that.
Speaker 1: Version of him, the character from the over soul, that
Speaker 1: that incarnation is that has decided not to leave this
Speaker 1: reality at this point. Now, it's not because that soul
Speaker 1: is stuck here and that's the only soul. And like
Speaker 1: people think that, like it's one soul goes into another life,
Speaker 1: then goes into another life, and it's just one soul.
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Speaker 1: But the concept that we're talking about is an over
Speaker 1: soul which has multiple lifetimes going on at the same time,
Speaker 1: so that that that is an impression that has decided
Speaker 1: to stay around for the evolution of itself in that incarnation. Say,
Speaker 1: I'm going deep here. I'm going into really deep weeds.
Speaker 1: I want to hear your explanation, is that what I'm
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Does that make sense to you from
Speaker 1: your understanding of how the other side works? Because that
Speaker 1: opens up the idea of ghosts. Why are ghosts there?
Speaker 1: Why are you know, spirits hanging around a house or
Speaker 1: a table or you know, on a car or something
Speaker 1: like that. Why are they hanging around when there's a light.
Speaker 1: There's the other thing. And I'm asking this question because
Speaker 1: a lot of people are curious about ghosts because we've
Speaker 1: all seen ghosts that are not what you're seeing. You're
Speaker 1: seeing spirit from a mediumship standpoint, where other people actually
Speaker 1: see ghosts who appear or hauntings or things like that.
Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to get a clear understanding from
Speaker 1: your point of view.
Speaker 2: It tends to be the degree of their connection with materialism.
Speaker 2: If during that life, say the life of that person
Speaker 2: was stood by their table, they haven't investigated anything spiritually
Speaker 2: at all and have been totally locked into this world
Speaker 2: being all there is. It's very difficult when they pass over,
Speaker 2: despite help from higher vibrations, to accept that there is
Speaker 2: anything else. In fact, many of the spirits that are
Speaker 2: seen that try to help those people across are regarded
Speaker 2: by the person that's stuck as ghosts themselves. Ghosts are coming, Tossine,
Speaker 2: I'm not going with them now. What happens in many
Speaker 2: cases is that a relative comes someone that they recognize,
Speaker 2: their mother, their father, their brother, their sister, and at
Speaker 2: that point then they go because the love link is there,
Speaker 2: the love link is re established. They recognize that person,
Speaker 2: they recognize the signature vibration from that person, so they
Speaker 2: know they're not being deceived, and off they go into
Speaker 2: the light. But until that time, they are so connected
Speaker 2: to the material aspects of this world and believe this
Speaker 2: to be the only place there is that until you
Speaker 2: can get a psychic crowbar in there and convince them
Speaker 2: that there's more that their stock. Of their own volition,
Speaker 2: they could move out at any time, but they choose
Speaker 2: not to do so because they haven't investigated that greater
Speaker 2: option yet. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: It makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 1: When you said that that table spirit felt like they're
Speaker 1: being visited by ghosts because they don't know that they're
Speaker 1: that they're dead. It's that old movie from the nineties
Speaker 1: called The others with Nicole Kidman. You should watch that
Speaker 1: movie's fantastic. It's it's I think it takes place in
Speaker 1: like the late eighteen hundreds or something like that. And
Speaker 1: there's a house, a big house, and it's a family
Speaker 1: that's there. It's Nicole Kidman and the kids and stuff.
Speaker 1: They think they're being haunted. But a spoiler alert for
Speaker 1: everyone who's not seen it, they're the actual ghosts, and
Speaker 1: the people that they think are ghosts are the people
Speaker 1: are that moved into the house and they think they're
Speaker 1: being haunted, and it's and you don't know about.
Speaker 3: That till the ends up. Sorry, sorry about the spoiler alert. Guys.
Speaker 3: It's a thirty to forty year movie.
Speaker 1: But but that makes a lot of sense like that,
Speaker 1: because I've heard that they just don't they don't know
Speaker 1: yet that they're even passed.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they do but accepted. Let me tell you a
Speaker 2: little tale. I went into my spiritual mentors home many
Speaker 2: years ago and sat by the you do when you
Speaker 2: go into a close friend's house. What's that terrible smell?
Speaker 2: And she said, I don't know, I can smell it too,
Speaker 2: And the fireplace, the fire wall disappeared, and I was
Speaker 2: in a wood, and there was a man standing in
Speaker 2: that wood, and he was standing by his own body.
Speaker 2: And this man, who was a scientist, had had a
Speaker 2: heart attack and his body was on the floor, but
Speaker 2: he was standing next to it, and he wouldn't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: And he recognized that I was there, and he said,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in you. I don't believe in that
Speaker 2: sort of thing. You don't exist. And I said, well,
Speaker 2: how are we having this conversation then? And there was
Speaker 2: an argument, not a heated argument, but an argument between
Speaker 2: the twos, with me trying to convince him that he
Speaker 2: died and should be moving on and him not having
Speaker 2: any of it and putting his faith in this corpse
Speaker 2: that was on the floor. Now, there's always someone who
Speaker 2: instructs me in the circumstances. I don't go in alone.
Speaker 2: There's there's somebody. It's a different spirit on different occasions.
Speaker 2: And he said, keep him talking. So I kept talking
Speaker 2: to this gentleman. And he came back with his mother.
Speaker 2: And you should have seen the change in this man
Speaker 2: when he saw his mother. It was a tearful event
Speaker 2: and he went over to his mother left his body
Speaker 2: went out into a corridor of light that disappeared, and
Speaker 2: then we were back to being sitting in a living
Speaker 2: room in the northwest of England.
Speaker 3: Michael, you live an interesting life, sir, very great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's just one incident. I've been called into
Speaker 2: all kinds of disturbed houses.
Speaker 1: And have you ever been Yeah, have you ever been
Speaker 1: in a situation that you were scared?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: And those like the angry angry spirits.
Speaker 2: I can tell you a horror story if you like.
Speaker 2: It's transmittable. I was called into the end of it
Speaker 2: is not what you'd think. I was called into a
Speaker 2: disturbed house locally, and drawings were appearing on the wall,
Speaker 2: Sketches were appearing on the wall, and it felt extremely
Speaker 2: dark when I went in. And I went I said,
Speaker 2: can I go through your house and check every room
Speaker 2: one at a time? They said yes, that's fine. So
Speaker 2: I went into the bathroom and there was an old
Speaker 2: woman there standing there and she said I'll kill you
Speaker 2: and I said, I don't think you will. You're on
Speaker 2: a different vibration. And she said I'll scratch your eyes out,
Speaker 2: and she was really angry, vicious, violent. And the guy
Speaker 2: who was working with me on this particular occasion was
Speaker 2: the big Indian that I mentioned earlier, and he drew
Speaker 2: across in front of him. I'll go cross and pushed
Speaker 2: and pushed this woman back and back and bike and
Speaker 2: she disappeared, and I thought, well, that's the bathroom sorted out.
Speaker 2: There was another spirit on the on the stairs, a man,
Speaker 2: and he was extremely violent, and the big Indian with
Speaker 2: a wall of light, pushed him out of the house.
Speaker 2: And we went through each room and cleared vibrationally. Each
Speaker 2: room cleared dark vibrations, he replaced them with light vibrations.
Speaker 2: And then he said to me, talk to the daughter
Speaker 2: of the house here. And I said why. He said,
Speaker 2: because she's causing this. And so I sat them down,
Speaker 2: and he was telling me what to say to her,
Speaker 2: and he said, ask her why she's so angry at God.
Speaker 2: So I said, why are you so angry at God?
Speaker 2: And she said, because of the death of my brother.
Speaker 2: I can't forgive him for that. And her brother had
Speaker 2: died early and she had aimed God for this, and
Speaker 2: as a result of this, she was bringing this mischief
Speaker 2: into the house. And so I explained to her, I said,
Speaker 2: you've got to let this go. This is this is
Speaker 2: harming your parents. It's harming the vibrations around you. It's
Speaker 2: harming you. Will you do that? And eventually she said yes.
Speaker 2: I went home two weeks later, the phone running. It's
Speaker 2: back and I was listening to the guy who was
Speaker 2: with me, and he said, tell her, as long as
Speaker 2: she holds onto it, it will keep coming back. And
Speaker 2: I said, I'm sorry. There's nothing I can do until
Speaker 2: she changes her mind, literally, and at that point we
Speaker 2: can clear the house.
Speaker 3: That's fascinating. That's fascinating. So two questions. One, where did
Speaker 3: the go? Where did the spirits that you pushed out
Speaker 3: of the house go?
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't seem like they were attached to the house.
Speaker 1: They were attracted by the energy of the of the daughter.
Speaker 1: So those are two different kinds of ghost specters, spirits,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Because there's you know,
Speaker 1: I died in this house and I'm haunting it now
Speaker 1: because I don't want to leave it because of the
Speaker 1: same like the table, So that there's that one version.
Speaker 3: But then these negative entities.
Speaker 1: Who seem to be roaming the earth or if you will,
Speaker 1: like the anger, I'll scratch your eyes out. And the
Speaker 1: staircase lady scary as gentlemen, very violent, very angry. They
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the house, so they were
Speaker 1: brought in by the energy that she was projecting. So
Speaker 1: can you explain to people how powerful that is in
Speaker 1: our lives that the more negative things that we think about,
Speaker 1: the more negative energy.
Speaker 3: Comes towards us.
Speaker 1: Not everybody's going to have ghosts coming towards them or
Speaker 1: haunting them or anything like that. But this was a
Speaker 1: very extreme experience, very very extreme instance, isn't it It was.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you will agree, like attract's line, our dominant
Speaker 2: beliefs and vibrations attract more of the same thing. Now,
Speaker 2: she was expecting chaos and she was attracting chase as
Speaker 2: to where those spirits went. And there are lower vibrational
Speaker 2: frequencies as well as higher vibrational frequencies, and of their
Speaker 2: own volition, those spirits had taken themselves into a lower
Speaker 2: vibrational state, and so they would be returned to that
Speaker 2: lower vibrational state. But that's not a judgment and it's
Speaker 2: not a prison because at any point they can say
Speaker 2: to themselves, I think I've had enough of these. I
Speaker 2: think I would like a little light in my life.
Speaker 2: I think I would like to think in a different way,
Speaker 2: and as a result of them doing that, they alter
Speaker 2: their frequency and the help that is always around them
Speaker 2: is available to take them out of the situations that
Speaker 2: they put themselves into.
Speaker 1: Michael, can I tell you a story I've had. I
Speaker 1: have a few of them, not nearly as cool as yours,
Speaker 1: But there is a near death experiencer that came on
Speaker 1: and she had a negative experience, which is very interesting
Speaker 1: because near death experiences I've had maybe three that were negative.
Speaker 1: Most of them are always very positive, not very if
Speaker 1: it's rare, it's rare in the near death experience world
Speaker 1: to have a negative one. But she had a negative
Speaker 1: one where she was pulled down into this hellish landscape
Speaker 1: and there were negative entities around her and all of
Speaker 1: this stuff, and the moment she she was there, she
Speaker 1: said around seven days whatever how she tracked that. I
Speaker 1: have no idea, but she said she felt that she
Speaker 1: was about like a week that she was down there hiding,
Speaker 1: and it was just just as a hellscape, but like
Speaker 1: in a city. It was like one of those abandoned
Speaker 1: apocalyptic cities kind of thing. That was the environment she
Speaker 1: was in, and she had a lot of negative entities,
Speaker 1: you know, doing things to her and scaring her and
Speaker 1: all this kind of it was very negative. But the
Speaker 1: moment she said, I don't want this anymore, I want help.
Speaker 1: The second she said that, I.
Speaker 3: Think it was.
Speaker 1: And it might be it might not be remembering, but
Speaker 1: I think it was either Jesus.
Speaker 3: Or an angel or both.
Speaker 1: That light showed up, everyone scattered, and she was pulled
Speaker 1: right out of it and she went straight to a
Speaker 1: higher vibration. So when you said that, that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense to what we are because we can
Speaker 1: choose in our lifetime, we can choose to live in
Speaker 1: a negative state or a positive state.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And.
Speaker 1: Right now, though Michael, the world seems to be going
Speaker 1: it seems that's two things happening right now. I think
Speaker 1: that there's more light and higher consciousness on the planet
Speaker 1: than there has been in a long time. If ever,
Speaker 1: there's more conversations like this, there's more people awakening, there's
Speaker 1: more people questioning. Higher consciousness is happening. Certain things are
Speaker 1: not acceptable anymore, and we're being tested constantly by politicians
Speaker 1: around the world, by war, by economics, by everything. We're
Speaker 1: being tested constantly on that. So I do believe that
Speaker 1: there is more consciousness and we are awakening more.
Speaker 3: But on the same token, we.
Speaker 1: Are aware of more negativity, more whole, more violence, greed,
Speaker 1: more power, hungry, all of that. We're aware of it
Speaker 1: because of our technology. It's not that it hasn't been
Speaker 1: here before, because it's actually been much worse.
Speaker 3: In the past than it is right now.
Speaker 1: But we're aware of it more, and that's screwing with
Speaker 1: our ability to understand the reality.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense to you and.
Speaker 2: What you said? I think. I think the difference currently
Speaker 2: is that we are consciously rejecting God. I use the
Speaker 2: term God quite boldly, quite openly, not the God of religion,
Speaker 2: not the God that I have to go to someone
Speaker 2: else in order to connect with, but the higher power,
Speaker 2: the higher energy, the higher love that we are each
Speaker 2: a facet of. And there seems to be deliberate, deliberate
Speaker 2: moves across the globe at the moment to say, there's
Speaker 2: no God, we're your God. Follow us, we will show
Speaker 2: you what to do.
Speaker 3: Come to evils in every industry, in every industry, and every.
Speaker 2: Every aspect, every aspect. But in rejecting God, we reject
Speaker 2: what we really are. We see God as separate from us.
Speaker 2: I believe and that the communications indicate that God and
Speaker 2: the individual in inverted commas are the same thing. We
Speaker 2: are facets of the same thing, sent out to experience
Speaker 2: and to grow, and to bring that growth back to
Speaker 2: the whole. So we are disconnecting ourselves from what we are.
Speaker 2: And a house divided against itself cannot stand. And this
Speaker 2: is what's happening. But it is a deliberate mood. There's
Speaker 2: no God. Don't turn to any greater power. There is
Speaker 2: no greater power. You have no greater power. We're in
Speaker 2: control of you. We will sort out your lives. It
Speaker 2: will be according to how we say you should live,
Speaker 2: and we say you should do. And this is why
Speaker 2: we've got such negativity, such violence. We are denying ourselves.
Speaker 2: And the whole theme of the communications is to put
Speaker 2: us back in touch with ourselves with what we are
Speaker 2: to say. There is a greater power, but the greater
Speaker 2: power isn't now there. The greater powers in here, and
Speaker 2: you can connect to it. You have two minds. You
Speaker 2: have this the calculator in your head, the headmind, and
Speaker 2: you have the heart center. And the heart center connects
Speaker 2: you to greater intelligence, to greater love, to greater purpose,
Speaker 2: and to a plan that works, that harms no one,
Speaker 2: that loves.
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Speaker 2: That is harmonious, that doesn't seek to take from him
Speaker 2: or to dominate it. And all you have to do
Speaker 2: is to move your consciousness from here to hear daily
Speaker 2: and listen to yourself speaking to you. What are you
Speaker 2: really saying? Never mind what you're being told to say
Speaker 2: and told to believe. What do you believe? What are
Speaker 2: you saying from in here? And then everything changes?
Speaker 1: What advice do you have for somebody who has such
Speaker 1: strong convictions in their story that they believe because they're stories.
Speaker 1: They're all stories. Everything is a story from every religion
Speaker 1: is a story. So the story of the country we
Speaker 1: live in, the religion we are, how people should be treated,
Speaker 1: those are all stories. Those are all ideas that we
Speaker 1: have been indocrinated with. Whichever wherever you are. How if
Speaker 1: someone is stuck in that but they are watching this,
Speaker 1: that means that there is a question inside of them that.
Speaker 3: Is not being answered.
Speaker 1: There is a curiosity whether they're watching this just to
Speaker 1: leave a negative comment about these two are insane, Yes,
Speaker 1: but they're watching it.
Speaker 3: So I always find that fascinating. Why are you here
Speaker 3: if you're leaving, Why are you watching this?
Speaker 1: What's drawing you to this? That's something I always find
Speaker 1: that fascinating with people. So for somebody who is so
Speaker 1: indoctrinated within their own story, but yet is trying in
Speaker 1: a subconscious or maybe conscious way, to open themselves up
Speaker 1: and start to listen, like you said, internally to who
Speaker 1: they truly are or what they truly believe, without the dogma,
Speaker 1: without the other stories from other people.
Speaker 3: What advice are there?
Speaker 1: Any techniques, any ideas, anything that they can do to
Speaker 1: break free from that internal programming, which I tell you
Speaker 1: I've been dealing with it all my life.
Speaker 3: We all do. We all deal with it. It's tough.
Speaker 2: We have an internal compass, we have a conscience. We
Speaker 2: might stamp on it, we might look it away in
Speaker 2: a drawer somewhere inside ourselves. Each of us knows what
Speaker 2: is the right thing to do and the not so
Speaker 2: right thing to do in any situation. But we we
Speaker 2: become comfortable, We become comfortable with a way of life
Speaker 2: that may not be right for us because it's what
Speaker 2: we expect and what we're used to, and it's scary
Speaker 2: to step outside of that doctrine. It's scary to step
Speaker 2: outside of that belief system. But we're not honoring ourselves
Speaker 2: by not questioning. And what I would say to someone
Speaker 2: who is having some doubt or some discomfort from somewhere
Speaker 2: within them is question. Ask. It's all right. You don't
Speaker 2: have to feel guilty about questioning. Questioning. Is that the
Speaker 2: best thing that you can do spiritually speaking and asked
Speaker 2: to be shown, not to be dominated, not to be controlled,
Speaker 2: but ask to be shown in the circumstances that come
Speaker 2: to you in life, as to be shown the answers
Speaker 2: to the questions that you are perhaps afraid to ask.
Speaker 2: And you will find that the higher Self and that
Speaker 2: the divine within speaks to us in all kinds of ways.
Speaker 2: You might be waiting for a bus and the person
Speaker 2: next to it you will say somebody something and you'll think
Speaker 2: that's answered my question, how did they know? Or you
Speaker 2: watch the TV and you'll be watching a comedy program
Speaker 2: and somebody will say something that makes absolute sense in
Speaker 2: terms of answering the question that you, perhaps to this
Speaker 2: point haven't dared to ask. So have faith in yourself,
Speaker 2: have faith in the divine within, that you are being steered.
Speaker 2: And as long as your motive is not to harm,
Speaker 2: and as long as your motive is to treat people
Speaker 2: in yourself with respect, with love, with kindness, then you
Speaker 2: can't go wrong. But you've got to get past that
Speaker 2: point of I feel guilty or I'm not allowed to
Speaker 2: ask this. Yes, you are who says you're not allowed
Speaker 2: to ask this?
Speaker 3: Michael.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you as a young man, but
Speaker 1: when I was a young man in Catholic school, I
Speaker 1: would constantly ask the nuns. Hey, in the Bible, it
Speaker 1: says that Jesus was like the last we see him
Speaker 1: at twelve, and then YadA, YadA, YadA, he rides in
Speaker 1: on a donkey at thirty. What happened in those eighteen years?
Speaker 1: It seems like that's pretty important stuff. We don't talk
Speaker 1: about that. What do you mean we don't talk about that.
Speaker 1: That's a very obvious hole in the plot of this story, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, he just shows up as the son of God,
Speaker 1: like this makes no sense, like he had a human experience.
Speaker 1: But those are the questions that need to be asked.
Speaker 1: And all the great teachers, and I think you would agree,
Speaker 1: all the great spiritual teachers of throughout history say question everything.
Speaker 5: I say, question at all, fine, yeah, yeah, yeah, all
Speaker 5: the time you gets an answer, but then question not
Speaker 5: answer is your life goes on because the expansion of
Speaker 5: consciousness is an ever unfolding, So what you consider to
Speaker 5: be the answer this year may be enhanced so that
Speaker 5: it's a different answer or an evolved answer next year.
Speaker 2: The mind is a trap. The physical mind is a trap.
Speaker 2: It's in a box. We've got to keep opening that
Speaker 2: box and be open to possibilities and open to new concepts,
Speaker 2: and open to higher vibrations and allow those to flow
Speaker 2: through us so that they can bring with them a
Speaker 2: sense of who we are and a greater understanding of
Speaker 2: who we are, where we're going, how we relate to
Speaker 2: this world, how we relate to other people, and what
Speaker 2: our true path is.
Speaker 3: Very true, very very true.
Speaker 1: Now, Michael, I know we spoke earlier before we came
Speaker 1: on that you were going to hopefully.
Speaker 6: Channel, hopefully hopefully channel because you don't do it often,
Speaker 6: especially not on a show, and you don't really know
Speaker 6: who's do you have any idea who's coming in?
Speaker 2: It's the Persian Gentleman, because he's been with me since
Speaker 2: before he began speaking, He's been stopped by the side
Speaker 2: of me. He's dressed in a green robe, a very
Speaker 2: flamboyant gentleman. And he's always in a robe that has
Speaker 2: sort of embossing on it with patterns on it. He's
Speaker 2: raising an eyebrow as I say this. But he's got
Speaker 2: a great sense of humor. Now I have no idea
Speaker 2: what he will say. You'll find that I don't change.
Speaker 2: Many chance that trans mediums their voice changes, their attitude
Speaker 2: changes doesn't happen with me. And I always think, well,
Speaker 2: it's my voice box, why should it change. It's the
Speaker 2: information point. So if you will bear with me as
Speaker 2: I attempt to tune into the Persian gentleman.
Speaker 1: So let me know before you jump in, what is
Speaker 1: the process that you're going to go through for everybody
Speaker 1: to understand?
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: It is vacating my sense of ability. It isn't allowing
Speaker 2: PG to come so close that he influences what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking, and delivers a communication. It's it's he
Speaker 2: steps in close to me, very close to me, so
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of separation between the two of us.
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the communication, he will
Speaker 2: step out again and leave what's left to me here.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like the way you're doing it. Specifically,
Speaker 1: it almost sounds like the movie Ghost.
Speaker 2: When suppose that's a good analogy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, WHOOPI Goldberg sitting there and someone just
Speaker 1: steps they actually step in, and it comes out, and
Speaker 1: it's that person talking through the body.
Speaker 3: And then when it and when.
Speaker 1: She wipes out, she's I don't think she got exhausted,
Speaker 1: but the ghost got exhausted part as part of the
Speaker 1: story plot. But it sounds something like that, but it's
Speaker 1: a little different. I don't think it's a.
Speaker 3: Full like you're still there, right, You're you're still around.
Speaker 2: On occasion when we were bringing the books through, I
Speaker 2: would be standing behind myself looking at myself, and on
Speaker 2: occasion I would try to interrupt. I think, well, I
Speaker 2: want to ask a question at this point, and I
Speaker 2: find that I couldn't speak in my own voice, I
Speaker 2: couldn't move, I couldn't do anything I wanted to do
Speaker 2: until the communication was over and the communicator would move
Speaker 2: to on side.
Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, now with this with the Persian gentlemen,
Speaker 1: is this just a straight kind of lecture or is
Speaker 1: this a question and answer?
Speaker 2: So I'm aware, I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I connect to it, all.
Speaker 3: Right, so he'll he'll let me know as we move forward.
Speaker 2: I assume. So, Alex, I have absolutely no idea until.
Speaker 3: Do you remember any of this? Will you remember any
Speaker 3: of it?
Speaker 2: Depends? Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Sometimes it's half remembered.
Speaker 2: I know, I love this.
Speaker 3: I love this is great.
Speaker 2: I'm just an ordinary chat but extraordinary things happen.
Speaker 3: You're just trying to say, hey man, I'm just here
Speaker 3: for that. I just work here. I just work here.
Speaker 2: That's always been my attitude, you know.
Speaker 3: Well, all right, so they're ready to do this, Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So I'll close my eyes so I can
Speaker 2: zero in on right, He's right, Okay. Many things have
Speaker 2: been said today, many single words that are immense concepts.
Speaker 2: There is one that I would like to share with
Speaker 2: you to end this communication, and it is the word trust.
Speaker 2: Trust Trust who trust the news, Trust the people around you.
Speaker 2: Trust what you are being fed over the internet, via
Speaker 2: your computers, via your phones. Trust all the input that
Speaker 2: you have that you are being bombarded with daily. And
Speaker 2: I would say trust those things to a degree. But
Speaker 2: the trust that I am talking about comes from within,
Speaker 2: comes from your soul, comes from the greater self, comes
Speaker 2: from the you that is the complete you. And there
Speaker 2: is a complete you. There is only a jigsaw piece
Speaker 2: of you operating at the moment here on earth. And
Speaker 2: yet you expect that to be the complete you. You
Speaker 2: expect that to be your complete experience, your complete output
Speaker 2: and input, to be in effect, all that you are.
Speaker 2: You are so much more than that. I would ask
Speaker 2: you to trust in the divine, to trust in the
Speaker 2: God within. But before you trust in the God within,
Speaker 2: before you trust in the divine, learn to trust your
Speaker 2: greater self. If you can't trust yourself, who can you trust?
Speaker 2: And how do you connect with your greater self? You
Speaker 2: connect by first of all, becoming still. And there is
Speaker 2: such a need in every life at the moment for stillness, stillness.
Speaker 2: How often in every day do you become still? How
Speaker 2: often do you sit down, switch off the point, switch
Speaker 2: off the compute, sit there in silence. And the reason
Speaker 2: you don't do it is because it is uncomfortable. Those
Speaker 2: are unplumbed depths, those are areas of your life that
Speaker 2: it is scary to contemplate. But I tell you, if
Speaker 2: you sit in silence, in stillness, if you ask to
Speaker 2: be connected to your greater self, then as you do
Speaker 2: that daily, and I say daily as a discipline, you
Speaker 2: will find that you are infused with thoughts that you
Speaker 2: have not had before, with directions you have not received before,
Speaker 2: with an outlook on the world that you have not
Speaker 2: considered before. And all these things are positive. All these
Speaker 2: things add to your experience of life. All these things
Speaker 2: elevate you and bring you closer in consciousness to what
Speaker 2: you truly are. Bringing you in consciousness to what you
Speaker 2: truly are is our mission. That is why we communicate
Speaker 2: with you. We could have moved on into greater spheres
Speaker 2: of light millennia ago, but we are connected with you.
Speaker 2: You are a part of us. We are a part
Speaker 2: of you, and we cannot, in conscience move on until
Speaker 2: we have extricated you from the dense vibrations that you
Speaker 2: have placed yourselves in. And extricating yourself from those vibrations begins.
Speaker 2: The moment you connect to your greater self, you connect
Speaker 2: to greater consciousness. Michael mentioned that the mind is in
Speaker 2: a box. It is not in a box. It is
Speaker 2: in a trap. It is in a steel trap, it
Speaker 2: is in a titanium trap. And it is in that
Speaker 2: trap because society has fashioned that trap for each of you,
Speaker 2: because it is not in the interest of society for
Speaker 2: you to live from the point of view of a
Speaker 2: spiritual society, you need to escape for a time each
Speaker 2: day from that trap. And you escape by wishing, by willing,
Speaker 2: by seeking to connect with your greater sent And if
Speaker 2: you do this regularly, and you don't have to tell
Speaker 2: anyone you're doing it except yourself, if you do this regularly,
Speaker 2: then that metal that contains your mind will melt away,
Speaker 2: will dissolve, will disappear, and you will reconnect to the
Speaker 2: higher vibrations that will bring comfort, peace, direction, and an
Speaker 2: understanding of this world and other worlds we see. If
Speaker 2: you were to look through our eyes as we look
Speaker 2: out on the earth level of existence, the earthly level
Speaker 2: of existence, you would see sleepers. You would think, well,
Speaker 2: half the world sleeps.
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Speaker 2: Twelve hours. The other half of the world sleeps. The
Speaker 2: other twelve hours. Now, there are so many sleepers. They
Speaker 2: are moving, walking, talking sleepers, and we wish to waken
Speaker 2: the sleepers, but we can only suggest. We can't do
Speaker 2: it for you. We're not allowed to force you wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to. Fortune in love, we invite you to awaken,
Speaker 2: and you awakened by investigating. Perhaps you have never considered
Speaker 2: life after death. Investigating. Throw out that which seems nonsense,
Speaker 2: retain that which seems true to you. Investigate, Investigate spirituality,
Speaker 2: not religion necessarily, but spirituality. Read up on what is
Speaker 2: to come for Read reputable books. Read the books from
Speaker 2: the ages that have told you back into age at times,
Speaker 2: how things really are beyond this earth. Give yourself permission
Speaker 2: to explore, to open up, to investigate, to discover, to see,
Speaker 2: to hear, to smell, and today spiritually enrich your life.
Speaker 2: And enriching your life, you enrich everyone else's life because
Speaker 2: you become a lantern. You become a beacon for the
Speaker 2: light and the aura that is around you, and the
Speaker 2: vibrations that you send out subconsciously become vibrations of light
Speaker 2: that attract to you other people, someone down the streets,
Speaker 2: someone across the world. You are not privy to who
Speaker 2: you affect, but affect them, you will change them. You
Speaker 2: will open up their mind, their mind traps. You will
Speaker 2: and that is your task. You may work nine to five,
Speaker 2: you may be retired, you may be too young to work.
Speaker 2: But there is the work to do. The important work,
Speaker 2: the vital work for this world, and the vital work
Speaker 2: for this world at this moment is to reawaken spiritual values,
Speaker 2: to show people the spiritual way forwards. And when enough
Speaker 2: of you connect in light, all violence ends, all upset ends,
Speaker 2: all pain ends, all personal suffering ends. This sphere was
Speaker 2: not intended to be a sphere of discontent. It was
Speaker 2: originally created to be a playground for angelic travelers, a
Speaker 2: playground where spirits could become more, could investigate themselves, could
Speaker 2: discover more about themselves through going through certain sets of circumstances.
Speaker 2: And then it became clouded, But that is a whole
Speaker 2: other story. It is cloud it is dense, it is dark,
Speaker 2: but it needn't be so. And the change comes not
Speaker 2: with those who believe themselves to be in chown, not
Speaker 2: with those who won't control, not with those who control money,
Speaker 2: not with those who lost for power. The change comes
Speaker 2: with you. If you've ever said, what can I do?
Speaker 2: Little me? Correct that, what can I do for it.
Speaker 2: What can I do? God everything, show me what to do,
Speaker 2: and I will do it. So this is an invitation
Speaker 2: to spend a degree of your time every day, even
Speaker 2: if it is only five minutes. Spend those five minutes wise,
Speaker 2: Discover more about self, Discover more about you as a spirit.
Speaker 2: Become a vessel and a radiator, a vessel for and
Speaker 2: a radiator of the light. It is time for each
Speaker 2: of you to make a difference. Believe me, civilization has
Speaker 2: fallen before. We do not want to see it fall again.
Speaker 2: It's up to you. God, bless you, and my love
Speaker 2: and the love of my companions, my brothers and sisters,
Speaker 2: of my vibration and the love of higher vibrations is
Speaker 2: with you now as you listen to this and every day,
Speaker 2: all you need to do is tap into it and
Speaker 2: use it. Onse you've got what's left of me.
Speaker 3: Now. How are you feeling, my friend? Are you okay?
Speaker 3: I will be, you will be. You're not going to
Speaker 3: be out. You're not going to be out for a week, right?
Speaker 2: I hope not. I hope looking forward to some good
Speaker 2: food tonight.
Speaker 1: Do you mind just explaining to people what you're feeling
Speaker 1: right now so they understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like there is a wall of division
Speaker 2: between my normal consciousness and where I've just been. It
Speaker 2: feels like there is a ward of cotton wool right
Speaker 2: across my head that prevents me operating as I would
Speaker 2: normally operate in every day lap. There is a heaviness
Speaker 2: around my head. There is a feeling around my eyes
Speaker 2: of draining, like a draining, And there is a gradual
Speaker 2: excuse me, a gradual disconnection with the communicator because you
Speaker 2: stepped to one side and I can see him receding
Speaker 2: into the distance, which is only an analogy, but there
Speaker 2: is still a connection to my solo plectures which is disappearing.
Speaker 2: It will disappear over the course of time, you know,
Speaker 2: an hour is so something?
Speaker 3: All right? All right, Well, I won't push you. I
Speaker 3: won't push you much more Michael today.
Speaker 1: So where can people find out more about you and
Speaker 1: the amazing work you're doing.
Speaker 2: Well. I think we've sent links to you.
Speaker 3: I think your team, yeah, the oh, they'll be in
Speaker 3: the description. We have two.
Speaker 2: Hundred and seventeen videos on our YouTube channel, the Joseph Communications.
Speaker 2: We have a website, the Joseph Communications dot co dot UK.
Speaker 2: I have a free step by step course in Higher
Speaker 2: Consciousness Living that I developed two help people develop their
Speaker 2: spiritual gifts that they so wish to do safely in
Speaker 2: their own homes and in their own town. So that's
Speaker 2: on YouTube, Step by Step Course in Higher Consciousness Living. Then,
Speaker 2: of course there are the books, and there is the
Speaker 2: World Meditation Alliance, where we connect weekly with souls across
Speaker 2: the globe, not in a cultish way, but to simply
Speaker 2: bring light into this world and bring specific vibrations into
Speaker 2: this world to help heal this world and put things right.
Speaker 3: Beautifully said, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I think that's everything. I think that's every link. I
Speaker 2: probably missed something.
Speaker 3: It's all good.
Speaker 1: We'll have it on Facebook as well.
Speaker 2: We're on Facebook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course. My god, it's been such
Speaker 3: a pleasure talking to you. This is such a beautiful conversation.
Speaker 1: I do, Holly, I truly hope that this will help
Speaker 1: people when they watch it, whenever they watch it throughout this,
Speaker 1: throughout time, whenever it's someone this find somebody that I
Speaker 1: really do is help them on their path, on their
Speaker 1: spiritual path to hopefully awaken them. So I do appreciate
Speaker 1: you and everything that you and your organization are doing
Speaker 1: to awaken the planet.
Speaker 3: My friend, so I appreciate you and thank you so
Speaker 3: much for being here.
Speaker 2: Thank you it's been a dear line, and thank you
Speaker 2: so much for inviting God blessed.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
Speaker 1: If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll
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