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Speaker 2: Help me.
Speaker 1: Now that we covered that, here's your host, Liss.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Ultras at a Ghost. Back again is Daisethy.
Speaker 2: Daisethy. What's up? Back again. Guess who's back. Me. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know where you're going with that,
Speaker 2: but okay. So what are we talking about today, Liz?
Speaker 3: We are talking about vampiros. I don't know how to
Speaker 3: say zombies in Spanish.
Speaker 2: Zombias i think that's how you zombias it sounds right
Speaker 2: it sounds right yeah you know two of the things
Speaker 2: that i love the most and they're both have something
Speaker 2: in common they're both undead they're both undead but one
Speaker 2: pulls it off better.
Speaker 3: Than the other definitely i can't imagine fantasizing about a
Speaker 3: zombie Oh.
Speaker 2: Dear God, no. If anything, I have nightmares about zombies.
Speaker 2: From all the creatures, you know, from the monster world,
Speaker 2: zombies scare me the most. But I loved watching the movies.
Speaker 2: My first encounter with zombies was Michael Jackson's Thriller. I
Speaker 2: remember on MTV, they would play that shit like every
Speaker 2: half an hour when it first came out. And oh
Speaker 2: my God, you know, I was fascinated. I was freaked out,
Speaker 2: but I was fascinated. It was really creepy. Ghosts, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: ghosts are scary, but vampires... Don't really freak me out.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a vampire when I was in
Speaker 2: high school. Goals. Anybody out there who's listening to this
Speaker 2: that knows me, they know I was obsessed with being
Speaker 2: a vampire when I was in high school.
Speaker 3: Were you a goth girl?
Speaker 2: I didn't have the money to dress like a goth.
Speaker 2: I was an internal goth girl. Not to say that
Speaker 2: when I was older, I did get to go to
Speaker 2: some goth clubs and I did get to dress up,
Speaker 2: which was really cool. Me and my husband, we used
Speaker 2: to go to goth clubs all the time. But when
Speaker 2: I was younger, I don't think that was even a
Speaker 2: thing when I was in high school. I was still
Speaker 2: wearing my Mary Janes, trying to be Miss Clueless, Miss Sheriff.
Speaker 2: But no, I mean, I had a dark soul. I
Speaker 2: love that stuff. You know, watching Bright Night. And there's
Speaker 2: this scene where the chick, she's transitioning from human to vampire.
Speaker 2: And she's all sweaty. And, you know, she lifts up
Speaker 2: her face and you can see her fangs, her cute
Speaker 2: little baby fangs. I'm like, I want to look like that.
Speaker 2: That is just like the coolest shit ever. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, to live forever. Young, beautiful, strong, powerful. Nobody
Speaker 2: wants to be a zombie. You know, I.
Speaker 3: No, I always kind of like the zombie from Hocus Pocus, though.
Speaker 2: Billy?
Speaker 3: Was that his name?
Speaker 2: I never watched that. No, I never watched Hocus Pocus.
Speaker 3: You never watched? Daisy, come on now.
Speaker 2: I never watched it.
Speaker 3: A few years ago, I was Winifred, which you probably
Speaker 3: wouldn't even know who she is.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: It was Bette Midler in the movie. And my husband
Speaker 3: was Billy the zombie. I think his name was Billy.
Speaker 2: Billy. Do you have pictures? You need to send me pictures.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I need to see. That's so cool.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'll send you one right now. I'll find one.
Speaker 3: We're talking. So do you want to start off with
Speaker 3: zombies or do you want to start with vampires?
Speaker 2: You know what? The spin is strong with vampires. I
Speaker 2: guess I'll start off with zombies. In my notes, I
Speaker 2: got kind of like a little backstory on zombies. Zombie
Speaker 2: folklore has been around since the 17th century in Haiti,
Speaker 2: where West African slaves were brought in to work on
Speaker 2: Haiti's sugarcane plantation. So Voodoo is a religion based in
Speaker 2: West Africa, practiced throughout Haiti and the Caribbean, Brazil, South America,
Speaker 2: and other places with African heritage. Many people who follow
Speaker 2: the voodoo religion today believe zombies are myths, but some
Speaker 2: believe zombies are people revived by voodoo practitioners known as bokor.
Speaker 2: So the bokors have a tradition of using herbs, shells, fish,
Speaker 2: animal parts, bones, and other objects to create concoctions, including
Speaker 2: zombie powder.
Speaker 4: Ooh.
Speaker 2: Which contains tetrodotoxin, which is a deadly neurotoxin found in
Speaker 2: pufferfish and some mother marine species. So use carefully at
Speaker 2: a sublethal dose. Tetrodotoxin combination may cause zombie-like symptoms. such
Speaker 2: as difficulty walking, mental confusion, and respiratory problems. High doses
Speaker 2: of tetrodotoxin can lead to paralysis and coma, so this
Speaker 2: could cause someone to appear dead and be buried alive
Speaker 2: and then later revived. I don't know if you heard
Speaker 2: stories from back in the days, you know, people are
Speaker 2: mourning their dead and then all of a sudden they
Speaker 2: pop up and, you know, like, hey, I'm alive.
Speaker 3: That's insane. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And those people will be called zombies. And, you know, yeah. So, yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's a little backstory to that. And then, of course,
Speaker 2: a major turning point in zombie lore came back. with
Speaker 2: American filmmaker George A. Romero. He did Night of the
Speaker 2: Living Dead in 1968. So this low-budget film inspired in
Speaker 2: part by I Am Legend, which was a novel written
Speaker 2: in 1954 by Richard Matheson.
Speaker 3: Do you know I've never seen that?
Speaker 2: I Am Legend?
Speaker 3: I've never seen I Am Legend or the other zombie
Speaker 3: one you just said.
Speaker 2: Liz!
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's how I feel about Hocus Pocus.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I can't believe you never watched those movies.
Speaker 2: They were really, really good movies. I highly recommend you
Speaker 2: to watch those. I am legend. I want to say
Speaker 2: they were supposed to be vampires. They couldn't come out
Speaker 2: during the daytime. Otherwise, they'd burn. So I never read
Speaker 2: the book. I saw the movie. In other words, yeah,
Speaker 2: George A. Romero, he was like one of the first
Speaker 2: ones to actually do movies about zombies. I think he
Speaker 2: was the one, you know, that came up with the,
Speaker 2: you know, the ideals that zombies came back. They had
Speaker 2: a hunger for human flesh. There was a Return of
Speaker 2: the Living Dead where they specifically wanted brains. That's what
Speaker 2: they wanted to eat. There's different types in movies. Let's see.
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch iZombie, the show?
Speaker 2: I've never watched iZombie. Is that the one that came
Speaker 2: out on SyFy?
Speaker 3: I watched it on like Netflix.
Speaker 2: Because there's another one on Netflix that shows how it
Speaker 2: all happened. And that one, I was watching it and
Speaker 2: it was actually really good. I mean, the anxiety that
Speaker 2: I got from watching that show. I mean, it was intense.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the name of it, though.
Speaker 3: And you were rethinking your teenage dreams.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God, dude. Yeah. Zombies. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: have dreams that I'm in a zombie apocalypse. And I'm
Speaker 2: trying to shoot zombies, right? Because I'm like, I have
Speaker 2: a gun. I can shoot these zombies. But for some reason,
Speaker 2: my gun is not a gun after all. It's literally
Speaker 2: my fingers. Nothing's happening. So that's scary.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to decipher that.
Speaker 2: You know, the thing is that I play a lot
Speaker 2: of Resident Evil too. So that's where a lot of
Speaker 2: my nightmares come from. You know, that also leads me
Speaker 2: to how zombies come to be. There's some movies where
Speaker 2: it's voodoo. Other movies where it's some kind of like...
Speaker 2: a chemical that brings them back to life and resident
Speaker 2: evil it was some kind of a genetic virus that
Speaker 2: was made as a bioweapon yeah there's different ways and
Speaker 2: of course how you make other zombies by a bite
Speaker 2: you get bitten you get turned into a.
Speaker 3: Zombie wasn't there what was the show with drew barrymore
Speaker 3: she became a zombie because it was it was on
Speaker 3: again netflix i think and it was like a ball
Speaker 3: or something it was like a spider ball that went
Speaker 3: into her mouth and it turned her into like a
Speaker 3: She had to eat brains after that?
Speaker 2: Oh, shit. I've never seen that.
Speaker 3: It was so funny. It was such a good show.
Speaker 3: I can't remember the name of it, though.
Speaker 2: Drew Barrymore.
Speaker 3: Drew Barrymore was in it.
Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Okay. I've never seen that. But yeah, the
Speaker 2: idea of zombies, it really freaks me out. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you remember some years back, there was these
Speaker 2: quote-unquote zombies in Florida. What was it? The bath salts? Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The bath salts and then eating their friends' faces
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 2: Dude, that is crazy. I think that's the closest we've
Speaker 2: ever gotten to actual zombies. That is crazy. Right? Yes, yes. So, yeah.
Speaker 2: What else do we have on zombies? I mean, like
Speaker 2: I said, we have their close cousin, which is vampires.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I prefer zombies than vampires. The other
Speaker 2: way around. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was like, whoa, that really just changed your
Speaker 3: whole view.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. Okay, well, actually, one thing
Speaker 2: that I always think about, what would I do if
Speaker 2: all of a sudden we were in a zombie apocalypse?
Speaker 2: How would you feel about that? How long do you
Speaker 2: think you would survive a zombie apocalypse?
Speaker 3: I'd survive a good bit as long as I had
Speaker 3: resources around me and a way to make like a barricade.
Speaker 3: I watched all The Walking Dead. I know what's up.
Speaker 3: I like how Michonne like cut off the zombies' mouths
Speaker 3: and made them like their her backpack basically that was
Speaker 3: like it just like roped him up.
Speaker 4: I like that that was bad you know i mean
Speaker 4: i think that's a whole lot better than getting the
Speaker 4: guts of the uh of the zombies and smothering your
Speaker 4: skin all over the place so you can blend in
Speaker 4: that was nasty and.
Speaker 3: They do it like twice and then they don't do
Speaker 3: it anymore like if you know it works why.
Speaker 2: Stop why would you want to point.
Speaker 3: Of that I wouldn't want to, but if it's that
Speaker 3: or die, I'd do it. You know what?
Speaker 2: That's one thing that I had an issue with with
Speaker 2: the prequel of Walking Dead.
Speaker 3: I couldn't get into that.
Speaker 2: I did not like it. I think we stopped at
Speaker 2: a certain point. I thought it was pure freaking garbage.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, zombie apocalypse starts and they're like,
Speaker 2: you know what? I know what to do. Let me
Speaker 2: put this stuff all over me. And how did they
Speaker 2: even come up with that? You know, it's like they
Speaker 2: already did it in the second one.
Speaker 3: How do you know that it wouldn't infect you? That
Speaker 3: wouldn't be my first go-to move?
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: Because what if it seeps in through your skin and
Speaker 3: that's how you turn into a zombie?
Speaker 2: And what are the chances that, you know, two separate
Speaker 2: groups of people would actually think of doing the exact
Speaker 2: same thing? Oh, yeah, that's going to work.
Speaker 3: And such a dangerous thing if you don't even understand
Speaker 3: the disease.
Speaker 2: That's nasty. What if you have like a paper cut
Speaker 2: or something? You're fucked. Gets into your eyes.
Speaker 3: That's like the worst idea ever.
Speaker 2: It was dumb. It was really dumb. I mean, it
Speaker 2: worked in the first Walking Dead, but then when they
Speaker 2: try to redo it again, I'm like, oh, come on.
Speaker 2: I can't think of something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even make it through the first episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was garbage. I couldn't stand the cast. Nobody
Speaker 2: was redeemable. I wanted them to all die. And then
Speaker 2: we could start over with some fresh people. Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: I'm good with that. Why?
Speaker 3: How long do you think you'd last?
Speaker 2: I mean, like you said, I think I'd last a
Speaker 2: pretty long time. I would know to barricade myself somewhere,
Speaker 2: you know, somewhere safe. I would probably find a market
Speaker 2: and barricade myself right there for the time being. You
Speaker 2: got everything you need. You got your food. Most likely
Speaker 2: there's first aid kits lying somewhere around there. You know,
Speaker 2: you can survive there a pretty long time. You know
Speaker 2: where your exits are at. And that's what's important. You
Speaker 2: got to know where your exits are at. And you
Speaker 2: have to have a way to get out just in
Speaker 2: case shit hits the fan. I thought about this a
Speaker 2: long time. Every time I would go to like a
Speaker 2: new job, I'd be eating my lunch in the back.
Speaker 2: And I'd look around, I'm like, I would go there
Speaker 2: if zombies were to, you know, invade my job. I'd
Speaker 2: be able to survive for a good minute up there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They're like, Daisy, this is your orientation. This is HR.
Speaker 3: You're like, all right. But if the zombies come, what
Speaker 3: is the exit strategy here?
Speaker 2: There has to be an exit strategy. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2: You know what? My favorite one. There was, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've ever seen it, you say you didn't
Speaker 2: watch Night of the Living Dead, but there was another
Speaker 2: one called Day of the Dead, which was the sequel.
Speaker 3: I haven't.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Night of the Living Dead, now you survived
Speaker 2: and now it's the day and where do you go?
Speaker 2: These people, oh my God, they found the perfect place
Speaker 2: to hole up, a shopping mall.
Speaker 3: It's perfect, but it's a lot of space, too, to protect.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: So granted, they put a lot of work into, you know,
Speaker 2: securing the place. So right off the bat, these guys,
Speaker 2: they already had some, you know, big rifles. And, you know,
Speaker 2: so they were able to, like, kill off all the
Speaker 2: zombies that were inside. They threw them out the roof,
Speaker 2: cleaned it up really nice. Once everything was cleaned off.
Speaker 2: and everything was secured, oh my God, they had it
Speaker 2: freaking made. You know, they had clothes, they had beds.
Speaker 3: Can you still play the video games in there? Or
Speaker 3: would they hear you outside? If I could sit in
Speaker 3: there and play Galaga all day, I'd be like, all right.
Speaker 2: Cool, I live here now. I think you'd be good because,
Speaker 2: I mean, not only is it well fortified, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, you have all your security measures in place,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Oh, and the food court.
Speaker 2: The fucking food.
Speaker 3: You got the pretzels.
Speaker 2: Dude, oh my God. You know, hopefully everything's still well stocked,
Speaker 2: you know, but I mean, yeah, you could survive a
Speaker 2: long time. If there's no outdoor electricity, they have generators.
Speaker 3: True, true.
Speaker 2: So you're good. You're good, you know. The only thing
Speaker 2: is you might have to go on a run to
Speaker 2: go get, you know, fuel for the generator, but.
Speaker 3: I think the worst part about a zombie apocalypse, if
Speaker 3: you run into other people, being able to trust them
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, and that's something that, you know, put
Speaker 2: the fear into you in these shows. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'd backstab anyone before they got the chance to backstab me.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I'd use them for what I needed to first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. You know, after you have your mall
Speaker 2: all set up, the mall is really big. The mall
Speaker 2: that they were in, it was small. It wasn't, you know,
Speaker 2: like super huge. So they were good. But yeah, I'd
Speaker 2: be afraid of somebody coming in and, you know, taking
Speaker 2: everything that I have, screwing me over for it. You know,
Speaker 2: I think, you know, a situation like that kind of
Speaker 2: shows the bad part of humanity. But would you want
Speaker 2: to survive something like that?
Speaker 3: If I knew that there was other survivors, if it
Speaker 3: was only me? I don't know. But how would you
Speaker 3: know unless you tried for a bit?
Speaker 2: Damn. Well, I'd want at least another person with me.
Speaker 2: I think I'd last. If I don't have somebody with me,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to last long at all. I'm going
Speaker 2: to lose my shit. You need human companionship. Yeah, definitely. And, uh, okay.
Speaker 2: And if you were bitten, how would you take that?
Speaker 2: Would you hide it? Would you tell somebody, Hey man,
Speaker 2: you know what? Just off me. Just, I don't want to,
Speaker 2: you know, or would you want to be put outside
Speaker 2: and you could join the rest of the other zombies?
Speaker 3: That's a really tough one. Cause if you get put
Speaker 3: outside and they get you before you turn, that's going
Speaker 3: to be a slow agonizing death.
Speaker 2: You gotta time it just right.
Speaker 3: If I could time it, you could throw me out there.
Speaker 3: If not, I'd probably tell someone to take care of me. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to. Oh God, that's scary. If I
Speaker 2: were to get bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just, you know, drug me, drug me, get me drunk.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't want to feel it. Just give me some drugs.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 3: So at a dispensary, that's where I'd be held up.
Speaker 2: Oh man. See that, that would, you know what? Seriously though.
Speaker 2: I mean, in a situation like that, you kind of
Speaker 2: need a liquor store and a dispensary.
Speaker 3: That would be funny. If you become a zombie and
Speaker 3: you're high, does that mean that the zombie is now
Speaker 3: high for eternity? Or does that wear off?
Speaker 2: No, I think it wears off. He'd have the massive munchies, though.
Speaker 2: He'd be the hungriest fucking zombie out there. He'd be
Speaker 2: more aggressive than the other fucking zombies.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't even be aggressive. He'd be giggling in the corner.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
Speaker 3: Giggling on toes.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I'd be the ditziest freaking zombie. If
Speaker 2: that's the case, oh, my dear Lord. oh man but
Speaker 2: what a way to go though shit yeah actually you
Speaker 2: know what did you ever see any of the resident
Speaker 2: evil movies no oh my god okay well that's an
Speaker 2: acquired taste right there but i like them you know
Speaker 2: a lot of people talk shit about them they didn't
Speaker 2: go by the video game yeah yeah i enjoyed it
Speaker 2: i thought i thought the chick nila jojovic i thought
Speaker 2: she was badass in that movie She was so cool.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be her. One of the movies, there
Speaker 2: was this character called Carlos Oliveira. And he was trapped
Speaker 2: in this car, surrounded by zombies. And what does he do?
Speaker 2: He finds a joint inside one of his pockets. He
Speaker 2: lights it up and smokes. And then he blows himself up.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, yeah, yeah. It was sad.
Speaker 2: It was really sad. He was a cool character. But
Speaker 2: like I said, what a way to go.
Speaker 3: On his terms and happy, I guess.
Speaker 2: That's right. That's how I want to go. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all I have on zombies.
Speaker 3: So now we'll move on to Daisy's preferred creature. The vampires.
Speaker 3: Vampire myths trace back millennia to ancient civilizations where blood
Speaker 3: drinking or life force consuming entities were recorded. When you
Speaker 3: hear the word vampire, people picture a pale figure in
Speaker 3: a black cape rocking some sharp fangs. Maybe sitting up
Speaker 3: in a coffin, hiding inside of a castle. Or maybe Dracula,
Speaker 3: standing beneath a full moon. But the idea of a
Speaker 3: vampire is much older than Bram Stoker's version. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Stoker's.
Speaker 3: Stoker's version.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: The idea of the undead returning and feeding on the living,
Speaker 3: whether through consuming their blood or stealing a person's life force,
Speaker 3: appears in cultures around the world and stretches back thousands
Speaker 3: of years. Tonight, we're going to talk about the history
Speaker 3: of vampires from ancient demons and restless dead to Count
Speaker 3: Dracula in the way that modern vampire has been shaped
Speaker 3: by books, movies, and television. See, Joe did this to
Speaker 3: us from the Film Joe podcast. He made us incorporate
Speaker 3: movies into everything.
Speaker 2: Movies is my life. I can't get into a conversation
Speaker 2: without referencing something to a movie.
Speaker 3: So my son's girlfriend doesn't watch TV. So every time
Speaker 3: I make a reference, she never gets it, which is weird.
Speaker 3: But I feel rude always making references, but I do
Speaker 3: it all the time. And she's always like, oh, I
Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about. And I feel like
Speaker 3: a jerk.
Speaker 2: That person sounds sus. I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: She's the sweetest girl.
Speaker 2: She has some head in the gym. You don't watch TV?
Speaker 3: You got a feeling, huh?
Speaker 2: I'm sure she's awesome. But no TV. I can't imagine
Speaker 2: not watching TV.
Speaker 3: Me either. That's my downtime. That or video games. It's
Speaker 3: just like that's like mindless. Don't want to think about anything.
Speaker 3: Just blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: That's like my happy place.
Speaker 2: My happy place is if I'm stressed out and I
Speaker 2: need to escape from something, I'll watch Impractical Jokers.
Speaker 3: I don't like it without Joe, but it's so funny.
Speaker 3: What are you eating or drinking over there? I see tajin.
Speaker 3: I see hot sauce. I saw like tequila. What is
Speaker 3: going on over there?
Speaker 2: What is happening?
Speaker 3: Is that a doll? You have, like, Barbie dolls?
Speaker 2: What is going on? What are you doing? It's a
Speaker 2: She-Ra doll.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's so badass.
Speaker 2: And that's the castle.
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2: Lucky. I have her boyfriend. Oh, shit. I have her boyfriend. Both.
Speaker 2: It's heartbeat, so I don't know if you can see that. Dude.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tony, he bought this for me. I want to
Speaker 2: see for Valentine's Day when we were still dating. And
Speaker 2: he bought me the castle with a bunch of dolls. Oh,
Speaker 2: my God. I lost my shit. I actually sat down
Speaker 2: and I played with all of these things.
Speaker 3: You're like, Tony, Tony, you're.
Speaker 2: Him.
Speaker 3: Just pretend.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I've always wanted this. But yeah, Tony
Speaker 2: surprised me with this. I'm like, oh, my God, this
Speaker 2: is freaking awesome. I was so happy. Yeah, I'm about
Speaker 2: to take a shot right now.
Speaker 3: That's a good guy.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
Speaker 3: You're doing shots. I just didn't know what was happening
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 2: I don't use salt. I use tajin and I don't
Speaker 2: have any lemon.
Speaker 3: So if you're going to make- Tajin and tequila?
Speaker 2: Eat the lemon. You got to sprinkle on some tajin
Speaker 2: and oh my God, it is so good. Margaritas. Instead
Speaker 2: of lining the rim with salt, use tahini.
Speaker 3: I would never put salt on my food.
Speaker 2: Really? Oh, you don't like the.
Speaker 3: I'm not a psychopath. I do sugar.
Speaker 2: Psychopath.
Speaker 3: Back to it. So long before people used the word vampire,
Speaker 3: ancient civilizations told stories about supernatural beings that preyed upon humans.
Speaker 3: One of the earliest examples comes from ancient Mesopotamia. The
Speaker 3: Mesopotamians believed in demons such as Lamashtu, a frightening female spirit,
Speaker 3: listen to how she's described, with the head of a lion,
Speaker 3: donkey teeth, her naked breasts, a hairy body, and bloodstained
Speaker 3: hands with these long fingers, which I can't stand long,
Speaker 3: like lanky fingers. It does something to me.
Speaker 2: A man made that. That is just, that is jacked up.
Speaker 3: And this thing was said to attack pregnant women and infants.
Speaker 3: Although she did not drink the blood in the way
Speaker 3: modern vampires do, she was believed to steal life and
Speaker 3: cause death. There was also another Mesopotamian spirit, Lilitu, who
Speaker 3: became associated with the night and attacking sleeping people. Over centuries,
Speaker 3: stories about Lilitu influenced later legends, including the figure of
Speaker 3: Lilith in Jewish folklore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought you were going for. Okay, cool.
Speaker 3: Ancient Greece also has vampire-like beings. The Empusa was a
Speaker 3: shape-shifting demon said to lure travelers before killing them. Another creature,
Speaker 3: the Lamia, was often described as a woman who preyed
Speaker 3: upon children and in later versions of the legend consumed
Speaker 3: blood or flesh.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that one tripped me out because when I
Speaker 2: was younger, I used to read books written by L.J. Smith.
Speaker 2: You may know her from The Vampire Diaries.
Speaker 3: I never got into that show. I tried. I watched
Speaker 3: like an episode and I couldn't do it. The girl
Speaker 3: was just too... I don't know.
Speaker 2: You should read the books. They're a little bit dated,
Speaker 2: but I mean, it's still a fun read. Yeah, one
Speaker 2: of her books, it was the Night World series. And
Speaker 2: the vampires were called Lamia or Lamia. I don't know
Speaker 2: how you pronounce it, but.
Speaker 3: You're probably saying it right.
Speaker 2: Lamia, Lamia. Yeah. And basically, they were... And these vampires
Speaker 2: were a type of vampire that was born that way.
Speaker 2: And once they reach a certain age, they stop aging.
Speaker 2: That was the lore in the book. So I thought
Speaker 2: that was kind of cool. And then they can make
Speaker 2: your traditional vampire where they're bitten and they stop aging
Speaker 2: from there. But the Lamia, they were born as vampires.
Speaker 3: And the people they bit stopped aging at the point
Speaker 3: they were bitten?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Or the point they reached the age.
Speaker 2: No, no, no. At the point they were bitten. So
Speaker 2: if the vampire bit you at the age of 25,
Speaker 2: that's where you stay.
Speaker 3: I'd be chill at 25. My body didn't really hurt then.
Speaker 2: 25 was good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Chill bite age.
Speaker 2: I'd go for that. I would not want to be
Speaker 2: a vampire now, though. No, I'm good.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Back pain for eternity.
Speaker 2: If I could shapeshift back into my younger self. There
Speaker 2: we go. Now we're talking.
Speaker 3: All right. These creatures were not vampires in the modern sense,
Speaker 3: but they shared one important feature. They fed upon the living.
Speaker 3: By the Middle Ages, vampire belief began to take on
Speaker 3: a form that would become much more familiar. Familiar. Familia.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to not lose my R's. Like, I wanted
Speaker 3: to say familia. Familia. But I'm trying to say familiar.
Speaker 3: And then I thought I overdid it with a yulier.
Speaker 3: It was just too much.
Speaker 2: Everybody, you know what? When we were doing the Film
Speaker 2: Joke podcast, I remember there was a listener that said
Speaker 2: that they loved your accent.
Speaker 3: I don't even think I have one. But there's certain
Speaker 3: words with that. Like if I say stairs too fast,
Speaker 3: it's stairs.
Speaker 2: Stairs.
Speaker 3: But if I say stairs.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: I have to remember to say stairs. But then if
Speaker 3: I overdo it, it's like stairs. It becomes aggressive.
Speaker 2: I fell down the stairs. I like it. I think
Speaker 2: it's cute.
Speaker 3: Across Europe, many people believed that the dead could sometimes
Speaker 3: return to harm the living. These beings were often called revenants.
Speaker 3: A revenant was a corpse that rose from its grave
Speaker 3: because something had gone wrong or a person had died
Speaker 3: suddenly or they had been cursed or some thought because
Speaker 3: they were considered wicked during life. Or perhaps the community
Speaker 3: simply believed that they were responsible for a series of
Speaker 3: unexplained deaths. At a time when medicine was poorly understood,
Speaker 3: diseases could rapidly spread through villages. And when several family
Speaker 3: members died within days or weeks, people searched for explanation.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they blamed the dead. One corpse might be accused
Speaker 3: of returning at night to drain the strengths of relatives.
Speaker 3: Communities sometimes dug up bodies and performed rituals intended to
Speaker 3: prevent the dead from returning. The rituals varied. Some involved
Speaker 3: dismembering the deceased or putting rocks over the body. Oh,
Speaker 3: this one was kind of weird. Putting poppies in the grave. Poppies.
Speaker 3: Like Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 2: I'm familiar.
Speaker 3: I've never heard that until this.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Or some would put a coin in the dead person's mouth.
Speaker 3: Some even place sickles across the buried person's neck. So
Speaker 3: if they rose up, their head would be cut off.
Speaker 3: Like they wouldn't cut their family member or friends off. Damn.
Speaker 3: But they set it up. So like if they tried anything.
Speaker 2: I dare you.
Speaker 3: Or I'm sure you've heard of burying them upside down.
Speaker 3: So if they tried to get out of the grave,
Speaker 3: they'd go down instead of up.
Speaker 2: The one that I don't know if you have it there,
Speaker 2: but the one that I know of is that they
Speaker 2: would put a stake through you. So that you wouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to get back up. That's where the whole myth, well,
Speaker 2: legend where. That's how you can kill a vampire, but
Speaker 2: put a mistake through his heart. But initially, it was
Speaker 2: to keep them in their grave.
Speaker 3: I didn't list it because there's so many. That was
Speaker 3: the end of my list, but I have heard of
Speaker 3: that one before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's cool.
Speaker 3: But they did some gnarly stuff to try to get
Speaker 3: these people in. They had like metal cages. They had
Speaker 3: all kinds of nonsense, but I just listed some. But
Speaker 3: these practices have actually been discovered in archaeological sites across
Speaker 3: parts of Europe. The word vampire became widely known during
Speaker 3: the 18th century. During this period, reports of alleged vampire
Speaker 3: attacks emerged from parts of Eastern Europe, especially in the
Speaker 3: areas that are now Serbia and neighboring regions. Two famous
Speaker 3: cases captured the attention of Europe. The first involved Pitar Blagojevic.
Speaker 2: That sounds legit.
Speaker 3: Who died in 1725. According to reports, several people in
Speaker 3: the village claimed that Pitar, I'm not even going to
Speaker 3: say his last name again, appeared to them after his death.
Speaker 3: And soon afterward, villagers began dying. When his grave was opened,
Speaker 3: witnesses claimed his body appeared unusually well preserved. To them,
Speaker 3: this was evidence that he had become a vampire, which
Speaker 3: it could have just been the temperature.
Speaker 2: But it could have been, you know, it could have
Speaker 2: been so many things like, you know, maybe like the
Speaker 2: minerals in the soil that he was buried in. You know,
Speaker 2: that could have preserved him as well. I don't know
Speaker 2: where I heard that. I heard it somewhere, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Another famous case was Arnold Paoli, a former soldier who
Speaker 3: died in 1726. Local residents claim that Paoli had once
Speaker 3: encountered a vampire himself. He believed he had taken precautions
Speaker 3: to protect himself. After his death, villagers reported seeing him again.
Speaker 3: And when more people died, authorities actually went out and investigated.
Speaker 3: And then they actually wrote reports... and they were circulated
Speaker 3: throughout Europe. And suddenly, educated people in Paris, London, and
Speaker 3: Vienna were debating whether vampires were real. These incidents became
Speaker 3: known as the vampire controversies. Then to 1728 in New Orleans,
Speaker 3: where more men than quote-unquote respectable women were, because, you know,
Speaker 3: they had to be respectable if they were deemed fit
Speaker 3: for marriage. So the French crown, King Louis XV, sent
Speaker 3: a bunch of young women to the newly colonized you know,
Speaker 3: French colonized New Orleans to populate the area.
Speaker 2: French Quarter? Yes.
Speaker 3: The women were sent by boat. The young French women
Speaker 3: arrived in New Orleans to marry settlers and help grow
Speaker 3: the colony. They were called the Casket Girls because supposedly
Speaker 3: they brought small coffin-shaped trunks, or casquettes in French, containing
Speaker 3: their belongings. They were housed with the Ursuline nuns at
Speaker 3: the Ursuline convent. Later folklore claimed the girls were actually vampires.
Speaker 3: with the mysterious trunks supposedly containing their coffins, according to
Speaker 3: legend that the trunks were kept in the convent's attic
Speaker 3: and eventually sealed shut because something sinister was supposedly happening.
Speaker 3: Some say that they brought zombies... Zombies, hi! Some say
Speaker 3: that they brought vampires with them. Others say that they brought, like,
Speaker 3: soil of vampires, and somehow that did it. I'm not
Speaker 3: really sure, but realistically, they were in ships kept under there,
Speaker 3: so they probably contracted something When they got off their boat,
Speaker 3: they looked pale, but because they hadn't seen sun in
Speaker 3: however long, however many weeks, months, whatever, so obviously they're
Speaker 3: going to look pale.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And if you don't have vitamin C and you're on
Speaker 3: a boat, you can get scurvy which causes bleeding gums
Speaker 3: so okay or they brought some sort of disease and
Speaker 3: then people in the area started dying because maybe they
Speaker 3: brought tuberculosis or something with them so people are dying
Speaker 3: so they're like oh they're.
Speaker 2: Vampires yeah somehow you know traveling by ship does not
Speaker 2: sound you know very nice back in those days Oh,
Speaker 2: it's probably disgusting. God, that sounds horrible.
Speaker 3: No showers.
Speaker 2: No pools. No margaritas.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 2: No margaritas.
Speaker 3: No tajin.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 5: No tequila.
Speaker 2: No tequila. Oh, man. That sounds horrible.
Speaker 3: Then there's the story of Count St. Germain. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you've ever heard of him.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of him.
Speaker 3: We should do a whole thing on him. The enigmatic
Speaker 3: 18th century occult figure whose real identity to this day
Speaker 3: remains a mystery. He appeared among the wealthy and powerful circles.
Speaker 3: He was like a mysterious European aristocrat. And he was
Speaker 3: seen a lot around Europe, especially around France. He claimed
Speaker 3: or was rumored to have extraordinary knowledge of alchemy, languages,
Speaker 3: could play multiple instruments, knew a lot about science, history.
Speaker 3: And he spoke of things like he was actually there.
Speaker 3: The biggest legend is that he was immortal or he
Speaker 3: discovered the elixir of life. People claim that he looked
Speaker 3: the same for decades. He was always like right around
Speaker 3: 40 years old. And stories say that he could predict
Speaker 3: the future. He could turn ordinary materials into precious metals.
Speaker 3: And he possessed immense secret knowledge. And I know it
Speaker 3: sounds like just an alchemist, but there is also a
Speaker 3: story of him in New Orleans when he had like
Speaker 3: this big lavish party and everyone left and it was
Speaker 3: just him and a girl. And supposedly like he, she
Speaker 3: jumped off the ledge and she was saying, he tried
Speaker 3: to bite me. He tried to bite me. And then
Speaker 3: he disappeared. And when the police went into his house,
Speaker 3: the wine bottles he had. actually had like wine and
Speaker 3: blood mixed together oh shit it's a whole long thing
Speaker 3: i'm just giving you the very short version you.
Speaker 2: Know it's funny though because you're uh when you're reading
Speaker 2: this to me i'm obviously going towards movies and you
Speaker 2: know this was obviously a lot of this stuff was
Speaker 2: obviously inspiration for you know a lot of vampire movies
Speaker 2: when you mentioned the the wine and the blood Automatically,
Speaker 2: what comes to mind is The Lost Boys, where David
Speaker 2: gives Michael the wine and he drinks it and he
Speaker 2: becomes a vampire because there's blood in there. Yeah, Lost Boys.
Speaker 3: So although St. Germain, Count St. Germain, was reportedly dead
Speaker 3: by 1784, stories of mysterious sightings continued afterwards in different
Speaker 3: time periods. Yet he always appeared the same age. And
Speaker 3: he has sightings as recent as like the 1970s. And
Speaker 3: the reason they know what he looks like is because
Speaker 3: back then he sat for paintings. So they have actual
Speaker 3: paintings of him.
Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
Speaker 3: That they can compare him to.
Speaker 2: Damn, that's crazy. Like the Elvis sightings. Elvis is probably
Speaker 2: a vampire too.
Speaker 3: I've heard Christopher Walken was. They always say that on
Speaker 3: like TikTok.
Speaker 2: What? I've never heard that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Go down that rabbit hole one day at 2 a.m.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: This is the last example of a vampire, but Mercy Brown,
Speaker 3: which I did the whole episode, she was a young
Speaker 3: woman from Rhode Island whose death in 1892 became one
Speaker 3: of America's most famous vampire legends. She died of tuberculosis,
Speaker 3: as did several members of her family, but at the time,
Speaker 3: people didn't understand how tuberculosis spread, and families sometimes believed
Speaker 3: a deceased relative was draining the life from those who
Speaker 3: were still sick. After Mercy died, her relatives became ill,
Speaker 3: and locals suspected she was a vampire. Her body was
Speaker 3: exhumed about two months after death, and her heart and
Speaker 3: liver were actually removed and burned, and the ashes were
Speaker 3: reportedly mixed into a drink and given to her sick
Speaker 3: brother Edwin as a supposed cure. Edwin died soon after,
Speaker 3: and the story became part of American folklore and is
Speaker 3: often cited as one of the last vampire-related exhumations in
Speaker 3: New England.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Obviously, when you think about vampires and you go back
Speaker 2: into history, you obviously think of the vampire himself, Vlad Draku,
Speaker 2: who later on was Dracula. Apparently, Vlad Draku was actually
Speaker 2: an actual person, also known as Vlad the Impaler. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they said he was a vampire or
Speaker 2: they just got his story and said, you know what,
Speaker 2: this would be a good base for a vampire story.
Speaker 2: Because apparently, he used to... chop off their heads, put
Speaker 2: them on a stick, and he would drink their blood.
Speaker 2: He would dip the bread into the blood and he
Speaker 2: would eat it.
Speaker 3: He's a complete sicko.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I'm sure there's more to that, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the whole thing where, you know, you live forever and,
Speaker 2: you know, the blood is power. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of folklore does revolve around that, where, you know, drinking
Speaker 2: blood does, you know, make you powerful. Yeah, I always
Speaker 2: found that fascinating. But that's cool. You know, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: He came up with, you know, all these other people,
Speaker 2: you know, those accounts. I think that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot more. I just picked some of
Speaker 3: the more well-known ones, I guess. I probably should have
Speaker 3: gone the other way and gone less known.
Speaker 2: No, but that's cool. I like that. I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I said, you know, a lot of people would
Speaker 2: have gone straight to, you know, Vlad the Impaler.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's in here.
Speaker 2: Oh, he is. Yeah, he's the vampire.
Speaker 3: Today, historians and scientists believe that there were many reasons
Speaker 3: vampire stories spread. One was disease. Tuberculosis, for example, often
Speaker 3: affected several members in the same family. Victims became pale, thin,
Speaker 3: and weak before dying. To grieving relatives, it could seem
Speaker 3: as if one dead family member was somehow draining life
Speaker 3: from others. Another explanation involved the natural process of decomposition.
Speaker 3: People in the 18th century didn't understand how bodies changed
Speaker 3: after death. A corpse buried during cold winter might remain
Speaker 3: surprisingly well preserved. And as the body... Decomposes, gases can
Speaker 3: cause swelling, and fluids can emerge from the mouth or nose,
Speaker 3: creating the appearance that the body has recently fed on blood.
Speaker 3: What looks supernatural to villagers often had a natural explanation.
Speaker 3: Everything changed in 1897. That was the year author... I
Speaker 3: don't know why it's so hard for me to say
Speaker 3: his last name. Bram Stoker published Dracula. Stoker did not
Speaker 3: invent vampires. Instead, he gathered together centuries of folklore and
Speaker 3: transformed it into one unforgettable... One unforgettable character. Count Dracula.
Speaker 3: Dracula lived in a castle in Transylvania. He slept in
Speaker 3: a coffin, he drank human blood, and he could transform
Speaker 3: into a bat. He feared sunlight, garlic, and religious symbols.
Speaker 3: Many of these traits came from earlier folklore, while others
Speaker 3: were Stoker's own inventions or adaptations. Dracula quickly became one
Speaker 3: of the most famous vampires in history. Many people ask
Speaker 3: if he was based on a real person. One name
Speaker 3: he is often connected to is Vlad III, also known
Speaker 3: as Vlad the Impaler. Vlad was the 15th century ruler of, ah,
Speaker 3: these words, Wallachia?
Speaker 2: Wallachia? I think it's Wallachia.
Speaker 3: What she said. It's now known as Romania. He's known
Speaker 3: for his brutal treatment of enemies, especially impalement. His father
Speaker 3: had belonged to the Order of the Dragon, which gave
Speaker 3: Vlad the nickname Draculea? Draculea?
Speaker 2: Draculea. Yeah, Draculea.
Speaker 3: Then, which meant roughly the son of the dragon. And
Speaker 3: Bram Stoker used the name Dracula. However, historians generally agree
Speaker 3: that Vlad's influence on the novel was probably limited. There's
Speaker 3: also little evidence that Stoker based Count Dracula's personality or
Speaker 3: supernatural abilities directly on Vlad. Still, the connection has become
Speaker 3: part of popular culture. And then the 20th century gave
Speaker 3: vampires a new life. In 1922, the silent film Nosferatu
Speaker 3: introduced one of cinema's creepiest vampires, Count Orlok.
Speaker 2: Orlok? Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 3: Unlike the elegant Dracula, Orlok looked almost corpse-like with long fingers,
Speaker 3: sharp teeth, sunken eyes, and he helped establish the image
Speaker 3: of the frightening vampire. Then came actors like Bela Lugosi.
Speaker 2: Bela Lugosi, yeah.
Speaker 3: Whose portrayal of Dracula in 1931 became iconic. His cape, accent,
Speaker 3: and dramatic presence influenced generations of vampire films. Later came
Speaker 3: Christopher Lee, who portrayed Dracula in a series of hammer
Speaker 3: horror films during the 1950s through the 70s. His version
Speaker 3: was darker and more violent. And by the 20th century,
Speaker 3: vampires had changed. They were no longer always monsters. Sometimes
Speaker 3: they were heroes. Sometimes they were tragic figures. And this
Speaker 3: is Daisy's favorite. Anne Rice's Interview with the Vampire.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Presented vampires as emotional, immortal beings who were struggling with loneliness.
Speaker 3: And then one of my favorites, the television series Buffy
Speaker 3: the Vampire Slayer, mixed horror, comedy, and romance.
Speaker 2: I love Buffy. Oh, my God.
Speaker 3: So good.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. So good.
Speaker 3: And then Joe's favorite, the Twilight series, introduced vampires to
Speaker 3: a new generation through stories of love and identity. He's
Speaker 3: going to punch me for that.
Speaker 2: No bullshit. I did like it's my guilty pleasure.
Speaker 3: Girl, I read all the books. I could not wait
Speaker 3: until the movies came out. I loved him. He's the
Speaker 3: one that knocks him. I'd probably still watch him now.
Speaker 3: I'd probably be cringed out, but I'd still watch him.
Speaker 2: It's a guilty pleasure. But did you watch? Was it
Speaker 2: Rising Sun or the book that was written on his perspective?
Speaker 3: Was it the third book?
Speaker 2: OK, so we have, you know, Breaking Dawn and all those.
Speaker 2: But there was another one. Where it's written on, what's
Speaker 2: his face, Edward's perspective. This came way after.
Speaker 3: Oh, I only read the three in a row. I
Speaker 3: didn't read anything after that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't read it. I think I got the audiobook.
Speaker 2: All it is, it's his inner monologue. It's not being
Speaker 2: told from his perspective when he first sees Bella. There's
Speaker 2: the back and forth between him and Bella. But no,
Speaker 2: it's not that at all. It's his inner monologue, like
Speaker 2: him thinking, oh, my God, she thinks or, you know,
Speaker 2: her scent. And it's just him fucking complaining. And it's,
Speaker 2: don't do it. You know, I read another book where
Speaker 2: it was from the point of view of the other person.
Speaker 2: And it was awful. because it's literally the story of
Speaker 2: him and how he felt and what he was going
Speaker 2: through it was the story it was his character he
Speaker 2: had dialogue no this was just inner monologue and it
Speaker 2: was just garbage.
Speaker 4: Yeah that doesn't sound very good no it's no bueno
Speaker 4: he's a little bitch.
Speaker 3: No bueno no basura basura so the Twilight series introduced
Speaker 3: I think I already said this.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: Introduce vampires to a new generation through the story of
Speaker 3: love and identity. More recently, shows like The Vampire Diary
Speaker 3: and What We Do in the Shadows have explored everything
Speaker 3: from romance to comedy. The vampire has become one of
Speaker 3: the most flexible creatures in fiction. It can be terrifying, seductive, funny,
Speaker 3: or deeply human. It seems like each reflects the fears
Speaker 3: and interests of the culture that creates them. For thousands
Speaker 3: of years, vampires have changed with us. Ancient people imagined
Speaker 3: demons that stole life. Medieval villagers feared the restless dead.
Speaker 3: 18th century Europeans debated whether corpses could rise from their grave.
Speaker 3: Victorian readers met Count Dracula. And modern audiences continue to
Speaker 3: reinvent the vampire in novels, movies, television, and games. Perhaps
Speaker 3: vampires remain popular because they represent some of humanity's oldest fears. Death, disease,
Speaker 3: and the unknown. and the unsettling question of whether the
Speaker 3: dead are truly gone. As long as people tell stories
Speaker 3: about the darkness, there will likely be vampires waiting inside
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: I love vampires.
Speaker 3: So if you heard a scratch at the window, would
Speaker 3: you invite them in?
Speaker 2: No. They're staying out there. No. If I was younger,
Speaker 2: if I was 25, which we've already said that that
Speaker 2: was like the perfect age. If I was 25, yes.
Speaker 2: At my age, no, no. said i romanticize the hell
Speaker 2: out of vampires i mean that they're the perfect hunters
Speaker 2: be perfect they're beautiful they don't age you know and
Speaker 2: i think that their beauty is what helps them hunt
Speaker 2: for their prey there's different types of vampires too some
Speaker 2: that have mind control some that can read your mind
Speaker 2: some that can fly some that can other animals like
Speaker 2: a bat or wolf. Some that can actually live in
Speaker 2: sunlight like the Twilight vampires.
Speaker 3: Oh, sparkly.
Speaker 2: And you know what, though? I mean, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: the reason that they made them sparkle is not just
Speaker 2: to be, you know, bedazzled vampires. Stephanie Meyer portrayed them
Speaker 2: that way because that made them the best hunters. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, you see somebody sparkling. Are you going to
Speaker 2: run away from that shit?
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: I want to see what you sparkle. I want to
Speaker 2: touch you.
Speaker 3: Bitch, why are you sparkling?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're like, well, come and see. You know,
Speaker 2: you come and see and then bam, you're praying.
Speaker 3: I should have written some of these down, but I
Speaker 3: was looking at Reddit because to me, if there were
Speaker 3: vampires anywhere in the world right now, there are no Orleans.
Speaker 3: Like that's the vampire central to me.
Speaker 2: Well, that's where Ed Rice got all of, you know,
Speaker 2: that's how she was inspired. All of her vampires come
Speaker 2: from New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they're definitely there. If there's anywhere in the
Speaker 3: world that there's like a group, that's them. But they
Speaker 3: have all these stories of people that will be like,
Speaker 3: I had this knock, I opened the door, and then
Speaker 3: I let this guy in and I totally forget what
Speaker 3: happens after this. Like, so I think they definitely have
Speaker 3: some sort of mind control or mind erase power or
Speaker 3: hypnotic or mesmer or something going on.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I'd be a total victim.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 2: Who portrayed the sexiest vampire?
Speaker 3: Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2: You know what? Brad Pitt. I've been known to be
Speaker 2: the stalker of Glenn Powell, but before Glenn Powell, there
Speaker 2: was Brad Pitt. And my dear Lord, he was so,
Speaker 2: he still is beautiful. And you know what? He is
Speaker 2: the most sexiest vampire. I was going to go with
Speaker 2: the vampire from Fright Night. Have you ever seen Fright Night?
Speaker 3: I gotta look him up now I might have seen.
Speaker 2: It it's with Chris Sarandon oh I did see that
Speaker 2: I mean he's not as sexy as Prince Humperdinck.
Speaker 5: Yes Humperdinck yes I mean he's not the best looking
Speaker 5: man he doesn't come close to Brad Pitt but there
Speaker 5: was something so seductive.
Speaker 2: Like you know what dude just bite me already like
Speaker 2: damn oh.
Speaker 3: There's like a Fright Night with Colin Farrell I haven't
Speaker 3: seen that. I'd probably watch that one.
Speaker 2: You know what? It's not as good. You know what?
Speaker 2: It's its own entity. It's similar, but different.
Speaker 3: I feel like this has turned into a Film Joe podcast.
Speaker 2: I know, it's my fault. I mean, we're talking about
Speaker 2: creatures that have been made famous by movies, books and movies.
Speaker 3: You can't really talk about vampires without talking about, because
Speaker 3: I feel like with many creatures, with witches, with everything,
Speaker 3: media shapes how people picture them. Like even at the beginning,
Speaker 3: like when you picture it, don't you always think like
Speaker 3: the sit up in the coffin or the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, ah, ah, ah. That was the count. You know,
Speaker 2: that's how it was made famous. Yeah, I can't. talk
Speaker 2: about something unless I reference a freaking movie. I prefer...
Speaker 2: It's kind of pathetic, but I love the movies where
Speaker 2: the vampire is portrayed by someone sexy and seductive. I
Speaker 2: love the conflict within them. They're still trying to deal
Speaker 2: with being... A vampire. And I love it. The inner conflict.
Speaker 2: You still feel like a human, but you're not. You're
Speaker 2: something totally different now. You have to survive in a
Speaker 2: totally different way. You have to survive by taking human
Speaker 2: blood and sometimes even killing them. Yeah, I love vampires.
Speaker 2: I think they're awesome. If I was younger, I had
Speaker 2: no family. I would love to be a vampire, but
Speaker 2: I would be a good vampire. I'd be a vigilante.
Speaker 3: So how would you feed? Can you feed off animals only?
Speaker 2: No, no.
Speaker 3: But even then.
Speaker 2: Feeding off of people, but I'm feeding off of the
Speaker 2: bad people.
Speaker 3: Oh, I gotcha.
Speaker 2: So I'd be a vigilante. I'd be out there killing,
Speaker 2: you know, all the bad people, cleaning up the streets.
Speaker 3: Dexter vampire.
Speaker 2: You know, not as weird as him. That was a
Speaker 2: cool show, by the way. Yeah, I'd be a cool vampire.
Speaker 2: I'd dress all in black.
Speaker 3: I do anyways. Am I a vampire?
Speaker 2: Oh my God.
Speaker 3: And I love the nighttime.
Speaker 2: Me too. Oh my God. I used to love going
Speaker 2: to the beach at night.
Speaker 3: Wait, I burn in the sun. I, oh my God.
Speaker 3: Am I a vampire?
Speaker 2: We're vampires because I burn to a crisp. I do
Speaker 2: not tan. I turn red. I don't leave the house
Speaker 2: unless I have some kind of makeup on.
Speaker 3: So the big question, vampire versus zombie, who would win?
Speaker 2: Um i'd say uh okay well that's kind of a
Speaker 2: tough one okay so i'm gonna give the zombies they
Speaker 2: there's usually a butt ton of them there's usually a
Speaker 2: fuck ton of them so i don't know i think
Speaker 2: even so vampires would definitely win they're smarter they're faster
Speaker 2: they have supernatural powers zombies are slow they're stupid they
Speaker 2: have one track mind definitely vampires would win.
Speaker 3: Even the high zombies?
Speaker 2: High zombies? Oh, the high zombies.
Speaker 3: They still have munchies. Yeah, because the vampires literally could
Speaker 3: just be like, all right, I'm a bat. Like and
Speaker 3: then fly up and then what?
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: By the time the zombies figure out how to climb
Speaker 3: a pole, you know what I mean? They already woke
Speaker 3: up from their nap.
Speaker 2: Not to mention, I mean, a vampire is already dead.
Speaker 2: So a zombie is not going to want to eat
Speaker 2: something that's already dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Because I mean, in essence, vampires are zombies. They're just
Speaker 2: like higher up on the food chain. They look better.
Speaker 3: Better looking zombies.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: See, I think he's so Brad Pitt looks so good
Speaker 3: in that. But then I think it was a Joe
Speaker 3: or someone or someone told me how he's like the
Speaker 3: other actors said he stunk. during the filming like he
Speaker 3: smelled bad and that kind of taints my image a
Speaker 3: little bit but I try to ignore that but it
Speaker 3: always pops in my head.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean I still take him I
Speaker 2: don't care what he smells.
Speaker 3: Like nose plugs just go in I'll.
Speaker 2: Just breathe through my mouth it's okay oh then you
Speaker 2: can taste it it'll get in your mouth oh man
Speaker 2: but you know what though on the upside if he
Speaker 2: did smell bad you can give him a bath look
Speaker 2: at how caring he was I'm so caring Maybe you're
Speaker 2: a little ripe there. Glenn Powell would make a good vampire.
Speaker 3: I know. I'm surprised he hasn't.
Speaker 2: I hate him, though. He has a girlfriend now. I
Speaker 2: don't like her.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just a beard for when he's waiting to
Speaker 3: get with you.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. That's what it is. Because this bitch,
Speaker 2: she's like, he's tickling 40. And he's with some chick
Speaker 2: that's like 20-something years old. Motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Like we could have had, don't be that guy. Glenn,
Speaker 3: don't be that guy. Don't do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he still looks very youthful. He's still very,
Speaker 2: you know, like he loves to party and, you know,
Speaker 2: seeing him on Instagram, you know, he loves to party.
Speaker 2: He's still, you know, very college mentality.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But, you know, sooner or later, that's going to catch
Speaker 2: up to him. And no, they have nothing in common. Nothing.
Speaker 2: So I'm just waiting for it to figure out.
Speaker 3: So email Daisy at.
Speaker 2: Like iloveglenn.com. I would love to do an interview with him.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That's reaching. My brother, he's more of
Speaker 2: the one to do interviews with producers and, you know,
Speaker 2: and everything. And he told me, he's like, you should
Speaker 2: do that. I'm not down for that, but... If Glen
Speaker 2: Paul would just say, Daisy, let's do this. I'm fucking there, dude.
Speaker 2: I am still there.
Speaker 3: You'll be like, first question. You'll be like, how you doing?
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: What side do you like to sleep on?
Speaker 3: Just be fangirling.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
Speaker 3: Boxers or briefs? I hope.
Speaker 2: You know what? I see him as a boxers guy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: There's not very many brief guys out there. There's some,
Speaker 3: but not many.
Speaker 2: That's just gross.
Speaker 3: I feel like boxer briefs or boxers are kind of
Speaker 3: like the majority.
Speaker 2: I'll do boxer briefs, you know, the little snug ones.
Speaker 2: That's fine, you know, but those ugly, tighty-whities, that's it.
Speaker 2: But I was probably like that with New Kids on
Speaker 2: the Block.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Jordan what jordan i loved him you
Speaker 3: know i love jordan and uh and joey I thought
Speaker 3: they were so good. Joey was too short, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Going back to the accents, I loved their Boston accent. Oh,
Speaker 2: my God. So freaking cute. My walls were completely covered
Speaker 2: in magazine pages.
Speaker 3: What is it? Teen Bop and all those.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: Bop and Big Bop. Yes.
Speaker 3: And I had the bedspread, too. I did, too.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. My family from Puerto Rico loved. They
Speaker 2: sent me a birthday present one year. And I remember
Speaker 2: they called me in the morning, sent me happy birthday.
Speaker 2: And they're like, mail should be coming soon. So call
Speaker 2: us when you get it. Big old puffy thing comes
Speaker 2: into the mail when I opened it up. Oh my God.
Speaker 2: I slept with that to the very end. Oh my God.
Speaker 2: I love that red spread.
Speaker 3: Mine too. I don't even know what happened to mine.
Speaker 3: I know it was falling apart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mine's those too.
Speaker 3: I probably got thrown away or something, but I wish
Speaker 3: I still had it.
Speaker 2: I think mice got to mine. You know what I
Speaker 2: still have? What?
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: I think it's just two of them that I have now.
Speaker 2: Jordan and Donnie and the Barbie-sized dolls. You remember those?
Speaker 3: Why don't you have those out? I don't know where
Speaker 3: they're at.
Speaker 2: They're packed away somewhere. I need to go through my
Speaker 2: boxes when I moved out here. But yeah, I have Donnie.
Speaker 2: He's wearing a white jacket that has like a British
Speaker 2: logo on it. And it actually has, on his back,
Speaker 2: it has the duck tail. The long tail.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The rat's tail or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yes. Same thing with Jordan. Jordan has his, it's a
Speaker 2: black outfit with red and he's wearing red socks with
Speaker 2: it and has a little microphone and everything. It's so
Speaker 2: freaking cute. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love him so much. He was like, yeah, I loved,
Speaker 3: loved him.
Speaker 2: He still looks good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does.
Speaker 2: He looks really good.
Speaker 3: But you know what makes him sexier is he's still
Speaker 3: into his wife and his wife is age appropriate. And
Speaker 3: doesn't that make a guy just like so much more?
Speaker 3: You know, seriously, you know what?
Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie. If Glimpo had gone with
Speaker 2: somebody age appropriate and maybe a brunette, because I don't
Speaker 2: know why blondes, it just kind of irks me.
Speaker 3: I go blonde sometimes when I have the mood. I
Speaker 3: just dye my whole hair, bleach it off.
Speaker 2: You know what? My hair used to be so blonde
Speaker 2: and it got darker as I got older.
Speaker 3: My hair used to be bright red. Now it's like brown.
Speaker 2: Oh, shit. Like an auburn?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a... You can't tell because I had
Speaker 3: the lights in here and my cat... bit the cord
Speaker 3: so now it's only green oh.
Speaker 2: Shit how did she not like get electrocuted I.
Speaker 3: Don't know no it's one of the LED things but
Speaker 3: now this doesn't work so I can't change the light
Speaker 3: so now it's just green.
Speaker 2: I've been wanting to do that to my room I've
Speaker 2: been wanting to put like you know little lights in my.
Speaker 3: Room don't let a cat in there yeah no.
Speaker 2: Shit my cat's stupid she wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: Well thank you so much Daisy for coming on thank.
Speaker 2: You so much for having me it's a blast as
Speaker 2: always thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, and it's going to happen again, so get
Speaker 3: ready for it.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: Bye.
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