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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Ouch! Was that a ghost? This podcast may

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<v Speaker 1>contain graphic material which some listeners may find disturbing. Listener

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<v Speaker 1>discretion is advised. Is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Help me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we covered that, here's your host, Liss.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Ultras at a Ghost. Back again is Daisethy.

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<v Speaker 2>Daisethy. What's up? Back again. Guess who's back. Me. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know where you're going with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but okay. So what are we talking about today, Liz?

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<v Speaker 3>We are talking about vampiros. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 3>say zombies in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>Zombias i think that's how you zombias it sounds right

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds right yeah you know two of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that i love the most and they're both have something

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<v Speaker 2>in common they're both undead they're both undead but one

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<v Speaker 2>pulls it off better.

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<v Speaker 3>Than the other definitely i can't imagine fantasizing about a

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<v Speaker 3>zombie Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Dear God, no. If anything, I have nightmares about zombies.

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<v Speaker 2>From all the creatures, you know, from the monster world,

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<v Speaker 2>zombies scare me the most. But I loved watching the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>My first encounter with zombies was Michael Jackson's Thriller. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember on MTV, they would play that shit like every

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<v Speaker 2>half an hour when it first came out. And oh

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<v Speaker 2>my God, you know, I was fascinated. I was freaked out,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was fascinated. It was really creepy. Ghosts, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>ghosts are scary, but vampires... Don't really freak me out.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be a vampire when I was in

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<v Speaker 2>high school. Goals. Anybody out there who's listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>that knows me, they know I was obsessed with being

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<v Speaker 2>a vampire when I was in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you a goth girl?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have the money to dress like a goth.

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<v Speaker 2>I was an internal goth girl. Not to say that

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<v Speaker 2>when I was older, I did get to go to

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<v Speaker 2>some goth clubs and I did get to dress up,

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<v Speaker 2>which was really cool. Me and my husband, we used

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<v Speaker 2>to go to goth clubs all the time. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I was younger, I don't think that was even a

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<v Speaker 2>thing when I was in high school. I was still

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<v Speaker 2>wearing my Mary Janes, trying to be Miss Clueless, Miss Sheriff.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I mean, I had a dark soul. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that stuff. You know, watching Bright Night. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>this scene where the chick, she's transitioning from human to vampire.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's all sweaty. And, you know, she lifts up

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<v Speaker 2>her face and you can see her fangs, her cute

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<v Speaker 2>little baby fangs. I'm like, I want to look like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just like the coolest shit ever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to live forever. Young, beautiful, strong, powerful. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be a zombie. You know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I always kind of like the zombie from Hocus Pocus, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that his name?

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<v Speaker 2>I never watched that. No, I never watched Hocus Pocus.

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<v Speaker 3>You never watched? Daisy, come on now.

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<v Speaker 2>I never watched it.

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<v Speaker 3>A few years ago, I was Winifred, which you probably

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't even know who she is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Bette Midler in the movie. And my husband

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<v Speaker 3>was Billy the zombie. I think his name was Billy.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy. Do you have pictures? You need to send me pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to see. That's so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I'll send you one right now. I'll find one.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking. So do you want to start off with

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<v Speaker 3>zombies or do you want to start with vampires?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? The spin is strong with vampires. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I'll start off with zombies. In my notes, I

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<v Speaker 2>got kind of like a little backstory on zombies. Zombie

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<v Speaker 2>folklore has been around since the 17th century in Haiti,

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<v Speaker 2>where West African slaves were brought in to work on

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<v Speaker 2>Haiti's sugarcane plantation. So Voodoo is a religion based in

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<v Speaker 2>West Africa, practiced throughout Haiti and the Caribbean, Brazil, South America,

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<v Speaker 2>and other places with African heritage. Many people who follow

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<v Speaker 2>the voodoo religion today believe zombies are myths, but some

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<v Speaker 2>believe zombies are people revived by voodoo practitioners known as bokor.

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<v Speaker 2>So the bokors have a tradition of using herbs, shells, fish,

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<v Speaker 2>animal parts, bones, and other objects to create concoctions, including

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<v Speaker 2>zombie powder.

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<v Speaker 2>Which contains tetrodotoxin, which is a deadly neurotoxin found in

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<v Speaker 2>pufferfish and some mother marine species. So use carefully at

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<v Speaker 2>a sublethal dose. Tetrodotoxin combination may cause zombie-like symptoms. such

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<v Speaker 2>as difficulty walking, mental confusion, and respiratory problems. High doses

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<v Speaker 2>of tetrodotoxin can lead to paralysis and coma, so this

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<v Speaker 2>could cause someone to appear dead and be buried alive

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<v Speaker 2>and then later revived. I don't know if you heard

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<v Speaker 2>stories from back in the days, you know, people are

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<v Speaker 2>mourning their dead and then all of a sudden they

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<v Speaker 2>pop up and, you know, like, hey, I'm alive.

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<v Speaker 3>That's insane. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And those people will be called zombies. And, you know, yeah. So, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a little backstory to that. And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>a major turning point in zombie lore came back. with

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<v Speaker 2>American filmmaker George A. Romero. He did Night of the

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<v Speaker 2>Living Dead in 1968. So this low-budget film inspired in

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<v Speaker 2>part by I Am Legend, which was a novel written

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<v Speaker 2>in 1954 by Richard Matheson.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know I've never seen that?

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<v Speaker 2>I Am Legend?

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen I Am Legend or the other zombie

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<v Speaker 3>one you just said.

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<v Speaker 2>Liz!

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's how I feel about Hocus Pocus.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I can't believe you never watched those movies.

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<v Speaker 2>They were really, really good movies. I highly recommend you

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<v Speaker 2>to watch those. I am legend. I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>they were supposed to be vampires. They couldn't come out

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<v Speaker 2>during the daytime. Otherwise, they'd burn. So I never read

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<v Speaker 2>the book. I saw the movie. In other words, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>George A. Romero, he was like one of the first

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<v Speaker 2>ones to actually do movies about zombies. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>was the one, you know, that came up with the,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the ideals that zombies came back. They had

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<v Speaker 2>a hunger for human flesh. There was a Return of

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<v Speaker 2>the Living Dead where they specifically wanted brains. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to eat. There's different types in movies. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever watch iZombie, the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I've never watched iZombie. Is that the one that came

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<v Speaker 2>out on SyFy?

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<v Speaker 3>I watched it on like Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's another one on Netflix that shows how it

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<v Speaker 2>all happened. And that one, I was watching it and

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<v Speaker 2>it was actually really good. I mean, the anxiety that

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<v Speaker 2>I got from watching that show. I mean, it was intense.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the name of it, though.

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<v Speaker 3>And you were rethinking your teenage dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God, dude. Yeah. Zombies. Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>have dreams that I'm in a zombie apocalypse. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to shoot zombies, right? Because I'm like, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a gun. I can shoot these zombies. But for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>my gun is not a gun after all. It's literally

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<v Speaker 2>my fingers. Nothing's happening. So that's scary.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to decipher that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the thing is that I play a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Resident Evil too. So that's where a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>my nightmares come from. You know, that also leads me

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<v Speaker 2>to how zombies come to be. There's some movies where

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<v Speaker 2>it's voodoo. Other movies where it's some kind of like...

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<v Speaker 2>a chemical that brings them back to life and resident

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<v Speaker 2>evil it was some kind of a genetic virus that

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<v Speaker 2>was made as a bioweapon yeah there's different ways and

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<v Speaker 2>of course how you make other zombies by a bite

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<v Speaker 2>you get bitten you get turned into a.

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<v Speaker 3>Zombie wasn't there what was the show with drew barrymore

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<v Speaker 3>she became a zombie because it was it was on

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<v Speaker 3>again netflix i think and it was like a ball

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<v Speaker 3>or something it was like a spider ball that went

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<v Speaker 3>into her mouth and it turned her into like a

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<v Speaker 3>She had to eat brains after that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, shit. I've never seen that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so funny. It was such a good show.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember the name of it, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Drew Barrymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Drew Barrymore was in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow. Okay. I've never seen that. But yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of zombies, it really freaks me out. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you remember some years back, there was these

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<v Speaker 2>quote-unquote zombies in Florida. What was it? The bath salts? Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The bath salts and then eating their friends' faces

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, that is crazy. I think that's the closest we've

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<v Speaker 2>ever gotten to actual zombies. That is crazy. Right? Yes, yes. So, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What else do we have on zombies? I mean, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, we have their close cousin, which is vampires.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I prefer zombies than vampires. The other

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<v Speaker 2>way around. You know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I was like, whoa, that really just changed your

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<v Speaker 3>whole view.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no. Okay, well, actually, one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I always think about, what would I do if

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden we were in a zombie apocalypse?

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<v Speaker 2>How would you feel about that? How long do you

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<v Speaker 2>think you would survive a zombie apocalypse?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd survive a good bit as long as I had

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<v Speaker 3>resources around me and a way to make like a barricade.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched all The Walking Dead. I know what's up.

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<v Speaker 3>I like how Michonne like cut off the zombies' mouths

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<v Speaker 3>and made them like their her backpack basically that was

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<v Speaker 3>like it just like roped him up.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that that was bad you know i mean

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<v Speaker 4>i think that's a whole lot better than getting the

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<v Speaker 4>guts of the uh of the zombies and smothering your

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<v Speaker 4>skin all over the place so you can blend in

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<v Speaker 4>that was nasty and.

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<v Speaker 3>They do it like twice and then they don't do

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<v Speaker 3>it anymore like if you know it works why.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop why would you want to point.

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<v Speaker 3>Of that I wouldn't want to, but if it's that

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<v Speaker 3>or die, I'd do it. You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>That's one thing that I had an issue with with

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<v Speaker 2>the prequel of Walking Dead.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not like it. I think we stopped at

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<v Speaker 2>a certain point. I thought it was pure freaking garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, zombie apocalypse starts and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what? I know what to do. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>put this stuff all over me. And how did they

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<v Speaker 2>even come up with that? You know, it's like they

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<v Speaker 2>already did it in the second one.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you know that it wouldn't infect you? That

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be my first go-to move?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Because what if it seeps in through your skin and

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<v Speaker 3>that's how you turn into a zombie?

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<v Speaker 2>And what are the chances that, you know, two separate

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<v Speaker 2>groups of people would actually think of doing the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same thing? Oh, yeah, that's going to work.

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<v Speaker 3>And such a dangerous thing if you don't even understand

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<v Speaker 2>That's nasty. What if you have like a paper cut

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<v Speaker 2>or something? You're fucked. Gets into your eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like the worst idea ever.

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<v Speaker 2>It was dumb. It was really dumb. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't even make it through the first episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was garbage. I couldn't stand the cast. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>we could start over with some fresh people. Yeah, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good with that. Why?

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<v Speaker 3>How long do you think you'd last?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like you said, I think I'd last a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty long time. I would know to barricade myself somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>and barricade myself right there for the time being. You

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<v Speaker 2>got everything you need. You got your food. Most likely

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<v Speaker 2>where your exits are at. And that's what's important. You

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<v Speaker 2>case shit hits the fan. I thought about this a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. Every time I would go to like a

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd look around, I'm like, I would go there

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<v Speaker 2>if zombies were to, you know, invade my job. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be able to survive for a good minute up there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, Daisy, this is your orientation. This is HR.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, all right. But if the zombies come, what

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<v Speaker 3>is the exit strategy here?

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<v Speaker 2>There has to be an exit strategy. Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? My favorite one. There was, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever seen it, you say you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>watch Night of the Living Dead, but there was another

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<v Speaker 2>one called Day of the Dead, which was the sequel.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Night of the Living Dead, now you survived

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's the day and where do you go?

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<v Speaker 2>These people, oh my God, they found the perfect place

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<v Speaker 2>to hole up, a shopping mall.

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<v Speaker 3>It's perfect, but it's a lot of space, too, to protect.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>So granted, they put a lot of work into, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>securing the place. So right off the bat, these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were able to, like, kill off all the

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<v Speaker 2>zombies that were inside. They threw them out the roof,

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<v Speaker 2>cleaned it up really nice. Once everything was cleaned off.

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<v Speaker 2>and everything was secured, oh my God, they had it

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<v Speaker 2>freaking made. You know, they had clothes, they had beds.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you still play the video games in there? Or

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<v Speaker 3>would they hear you outside? If I could sit in

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<v Speaker 3>there and play Galaga all day, I'd be like, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, I live here now. I think you'd be good because,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, not only is it well fortified, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you have all your security measures in place,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and the food court.

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<v Speaker 2>The fucking food.

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<v Speaker 3>You got the pretzels.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, oh my God. You know, hopefully everything's still well stocked,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but I mean, yeah, you could survive a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. If there's no outdoor electricity, they have generators.

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<v Speaker 3>True, true.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're good. You're good, you know. The only thing

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<v Speaker 2>is you might have to go on a run to

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<v Speaker 2>go get, you know, fuel for the generator, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the worst part about a zombie apocalypse, if

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<v Speaker 3>you run into other people, being able to trust them

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<v Speaker 3>or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know, and that's something that, you know, put

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<v Speaker 2>the fear into you in these shows. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd backstab anyone before they got the chance to backstab me.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'd use them for what I needed to first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's tough. You know, after you have your mall

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<v Speaker 2>all set up, the mall is really big. The mall

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<v Speaker 2>that they were in, it was small. It wasn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like super huge. So they were good. But yeah, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be afraid of somebody coming in and, you know, taking

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I have, screwing me over for it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, a situation like that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>shows the bad part of humanity. But would you want

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<v Speaker 2>to survive something like that?

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<v Speaker 3>If I knew that there was other survivors, if it

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<v Speaker 3>was only me? I don't know. But how would you

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<v Speaker 3>know unless you tried for a bit?

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<v Speaker 2>Damn. Well, I'd want at least another person with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'd last. If I don't have somebody with me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to last long at all. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to lose my shit. You need human companionship. Yeah, definitely. And, uh, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you were bitten, how would you take that?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you hide it? Would you tell somebody, Hey man,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what? Just off me. Just, I don't want to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or would you want to be put outside

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<v Speaker 2>and you could join the rest of the other zombies?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a really tough one. Cause if you get put

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<v Speaker 3>outside and they get you before you turn, that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a slow agonizing death.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta time it just right.

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<v Speaker 3>If I could time it, you could throw me out there.

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<v Speaker 3>If not, I'd probably tell someone to take care of me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to. Oh God, that's scary. If I

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<v Speaker 2>were to get bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just, you know, drug me, drug me, get me drunk.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to feel it. Just give me some drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So at a dispensary, that's where I'd be held up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man. See that, that would, you know what? Seriously though.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in a situation like that, you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>need a liquor store and a dispensary.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be funny. If you become a zombie and

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<v Speaker 3>you're high, does that mean that the zombie is now

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<v Speaker 3>high for eternity? Or does that wear off?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it wears off. He'd have the massive munchies, though.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd be the hungriest fucking zombie out there. He'd be

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<v Speaker 2>more aggressive than the other fucking zombies.

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<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't even be aggressive. He'd be giggling in the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 3>Giggling on toes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. I'd be the ditziest freaking zombie. If

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<v Speaker 2>that's the case, oh, my dear Lord. oh man but

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<v Speaker 2>what a way to go though shit yeah actually you

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<v Speaker 2>know what did you ever see any of the resident

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<v Speaker 2>evil movies no oh my god okay well that's an

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<v Speaker 2>acquired taste right there but i like them you know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people talk shit about them they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go by the video game yeah yeah i enjoyed it

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<v Speaker 2>i thought i thought the chick nila jojovic i thought

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<v Speaker 2>she was badass in that movie She was so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be her. One of the movies, there

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<v Speaker 2>was this character called Carlos Oliveira. And he was trapped

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<v Speaker 2>in this car, surrounded by zombies. And what does he do?

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<v Speaker 2>He finds a joint inside one of his pockets. He

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<v Speaker 2>lights it up and smokes. And then he blows himself up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, you know, yeah, yeah. It was sad.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really sad. He was a cool character. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, what a way to go.

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<v Speaker 3>On his terms and happy, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. That's how I want to go. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I have on zombies.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we'll move on to Daisy's preferred creature. The vampires.

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<v Speaker 3>Vampire myths trace back millennia to ancient civilizations where blood

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<v Speaker 3>drinking or life force consuming entities were recorded. When you

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<v Speaker 3>hear the word vampire, people picture a pale figure in

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<v Speaker 3>a black cape rocking some sharp fangs. Maybe sitting up

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<v Speaker 3>in a coffin, hiding inside of a castle. Or maybe Dracula,

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<v Speaker 3>standing beneath a full moon. But the idea of a

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<v Speaker 3>vampire is much older than Bram Stoker's version. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Stoker's.

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<v Speaker 3>Stoker's version.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea of the undead returning and feeding on the living,

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<v Speaker 3>whether through consuming their blood or stealing a person's life force,

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<v Speaker 3>appears in cultures around the world and stretches back thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of years. Tonight, we're going to talk about the history

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<v Speaker 3>of vampires from ancient demons and restless dead to Count

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<v Speaker 3>Dracula in the way that modern vampire has been shaped

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<v Speaker 3>by books, movies, and television. See, Joe did this to

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<v Speaker 3>us from the Film Joe podcast. He made us incorporate

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<v Speaker 3>movies into everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Movies is my life. I can't get into a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>without referencing something to a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>So my son's girlfriend doesn't watch TV. So every time

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<v Speaker 3>I make a reference, she never gets it, which is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel rude always making references, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>it all the time. And she's always like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what you're talking about. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>a jerk.

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<v Speaker 2>That person sounds sus. I don't know, man.

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<v Speaker 3>She's the sweetest girl.

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<v Speaker 2>She has some head in the gym. You don't watch TV?

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<v Speaker 3>You got a feeling, huh?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she's awesome. But no TV. I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>not watching TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Me either. That's my downtime. That or video games. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just like that's like mindless. Don't want to think about anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Just blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like my happy place.

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<v Speaker 2>My happy place is if I'm stressed out and I

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<v Speaker 2>need to escape from something, I'll watch Impractical Jokers.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like it without Joe, but it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you eating or drinking over there? I see tajin.

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<v Speaker 3>I see hot sauce. I saw like tequila. What is

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<v Speaker 3>going on over there?

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<v Speaker 2>What is happening?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a doll? You have, like, Barbie dolls?

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on? What are you doing? It's a

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<v Speaker 2>She-Ra doll.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's so badass.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the castle.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucky. I have her boyfriend. Oh, shit. I have her boyfriend. Both.

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<v Speaker 2>It's heartbeat, so I don't know if you can see that. Dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tony, he bought this for me. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see for Valentine's Day when we were still dating. And

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<v Speaker 2>he bought me the castle with a bunch of dolls. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my God. I lost my shit. I actually sat down

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<v Speaker 2>and I played with all of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, Tony, Tony, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Him.

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<v Speaker 3>Just pretend.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I've always wanted this. But yeah, Tony

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<v Speaker 2>surprised me with this. I'm like, oh, my God, this

423
00:19:47.829 --> 00:19:50.450
<v Speaker 2>is freaking awesome. I was so happy. Yeah, I'm about

424
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<v Speaker 2>to take a shot right now.

425
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<v Speaker 3>That's a good guy.

426
00:19:52.380 --> 00:19:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay.

427
00:19:53.099 --> 00:19:55.400
<v Speaker 3>You're doing shots. I just didn't know what was happening

428
00:19:55.420 --> 00:19:55.700
<v Speaker 3>over there.

429
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<v Speaker 2>I don't use salt. I use tajin and I don't

430
00:19:57.339 --> 00:19:57.980
<v Speaker 2>have any lemon.

431
00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:00.339
<v Speaker 3>So if you're going to make- Tajin and tequila?

432
00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Eat the lemon. You got to sprinkle on some tajin

433
00:20:02.980 --> 00:20:07.119
<v Speaker 2>and oh my God, it is so good. Margaritas. Instead

434
00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:09.660
<v Speaker 2>of lining the rim with salt, use tahini.

435
00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:11.220
<v Speaker 3>I would never put salt on my food.

436
00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:12.230
<v Speaker 2>Really? Oh, you don't like the.

437
00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:14.740
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a psychopath. I do sugar.

438
00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Psychopath.

439
00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:20.819
<v Speaker 3>Back to it. So long before people used the word vampire,

440
00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:25.900
<v Speaker 3>ancient civilizations told stories about supernatural beings that preyed upon humans.

441
00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.349
<v Speaker 3>One of the earliest examples comes from ancient Mesopotamia. The

442
00:20:30.390 --> 00:20:35.799
<v Speaker 3>Mesopotamians believed in demons such as Lamashtu, a frightening female spirit,

443
00:20:35.940 --> 00:20:38.599
<v Speaker 3>listen to how she's described, with the head of a lion,

444
00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:45.180
<v Speaker 3>donkey teeth, her naked breasts, a hairy body, and bloodstained

445
00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.779
<v Speaker 3>hands with these long fingers, which I can't stand long,

446
00:20:48.819 --> 00:20:50.859
<v Speaker 3>like lanky fingers. It does something to me.

447
00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:55.660
<v Speaker 2>A man made that. That is just, that is jacked up.

448
00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:59.440
<v Speaker 3>And this thing was said to attack pregnant women and infants.

449
00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:02.059
<v Speaker 3>Although she did not drink the blood in the way

450
00:21:02.140 --> 00:21:04.980
<v Speaker 3>modern vampires do, she was believed to steal life and

451
00:21:05.019 --> 00:21:10.569
<v Speaker 3>cause death. There was also another Mesopotamian spirit, Lilitu, who

452
00:21:10.589 --> 00:21:14.670
<v Speaker 3>became associated with the night and attacking sleeping people. Over centuries,

453
00:21:14.769 --> 00:21:19.109
<v Speaker 3>stories about Lilitu influenced later legends, including the figure of

454
00:21:19.230 --> 00:21:20.769
<v Speaker 3>Lilith in Jewish folklore.

455
00:21:21.130 --> 00:21:23.069
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I thought you were going for. Okay, cool.

456
00:21:23.460 --> 00:21:28.259
<v Speaker 3>Ancient Greece also has vampire-like beings. The Empusa was a

457
00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:33.180
<v Speaker 3>shape-shifting demon said to lure travelers before killing them. Another creature,

458
00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:36.349
<v Speaker 3>the Lamia, was often described as a woman who preyed

459
00:21:36.410 --> 00:21:39.349
<v Speaker 3>upon children and in later versions of the legend consumed

460
00:21:39.410 --> 00:21:40.170
<v Speaker 3>blood or flesh.

461
00:21:40.549 --> 00:21:43.470
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that one tripped me out because when I

462
00:21:43.470 --> 00:21:46.730
<v Speaker 2>was younger, I used to read books written by L.J. Smith.

463
00:21:47.170 --> 00:21:50.119
<v Speaker 2>You may know her from The Vampire Diaries.

464
00:21:50.140 --> 00:21:52.460
<v Speaker 3>I never got into that show. I tried. I watched

465
00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:54.259
<v Speaker 3>like an episode and I couldn't do it. The girl

466
00:21:54.299 --> 00:21:55.359
<v Speaker 3>was just too... I don't know.

467
00:21:55.420 --> 00:21:58.180
<v Speaker 2>You should read the books. They're a little bit dated,

468
00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:00.849
<v Speaker 2>but I mean, it's still a fun read. Yeah, one

469
00:22:00.869 --> 00:22:04.069
<v Speaker 2>of her books, it was the Night World series. And

470
00:22:04.329 --> 00:22:07.730
<v Speaker 2>the vampires were called Lamia or Lamia. I don't know

471
00:22:07.750 --> 00:22:08.529
<v Speaker 2>how you pronounce it, but.

472
00:22:08.670 --> 00:22:09.609
<v Speaker 3>You're probably saying it right.

473
00:22:09.869 --> 00:22:14.609
<v Speaker 2>Lamia, Lamia. Yeah. And basically, they were... And these vampires

474
00:22:15.089 --> 00:22:18.789
<v Speaker 2>were a type of vampire that was born that way.

475
00:22:19.329 --> 00:22:22.529
<v Speaker 2>And once they reach a certain age, they stop aging.

476
00:22:22.869 --> 00:22:25.940
<v Speaker 2>That was the lore in the book. So I thought

477
00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:29.220
<v Speaker 2>that was kind of cool. And then they can make

478
00:22:29.740 --> 00:22:33.559
<v Speaker 2>your traditional vampire where they're bitten and they stop aging

479
00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.660
<v Speaker 2>from there. But the Lamia, they were born as vampires.

480
00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:41.029
<v Speaker 3>And the people they bit stopped aging at the point

481
00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:41.589
<v Speaker 3>they were bitten?

482
00:22:41.609 --> 00:22:41.690
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

483
00:22:42.109 --> 00:22:43.349
<v Speaker 3>Or the point they reached the age.

484
00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:45.069
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no. At the point they were bitten. So

485
00:22:45.210 --> 00:22:49.190
<v Speaker 2>if the vampire bit you at the age of 25,

486
00:22:49.190 --> 00:22:49.990
<v Speaker 2>that's where you stay.

487
00:22:50.750 --> 00:22:54.009
<v Speaker 3>I'd be chill at 25. My body didn't really hurt then.

488
00:22:54.009 --> 00:22:55.150
<v Speaker 2>25 was good. Yeah.

489
00:22:57.289 --> 00:22:58.250
<v Speaker 3>Chill bite age.

490
00:22:58.730 --> 00:23:00.730
<v Speaker 2>I'd go for that. I would not want to be

491
00:23:00.750 --> 00:23:03.170
<v Speaker 2>a vampire now, though. No, I'm good.

492
00:23:03.849 --> 00:23:03.950
<v Speaker 4>No.

493
00:23:04.029 --> 00:23:05.710
<v Speaker 3>Back pain for eternity.

494
00:23:06.630 --> 00:23:09.970
<v Speaker 2>If I could shapeshift back into my younger self. There

495
00:23:10.019 --> 00:23:11.359
<v Speaker 2>we go. Now we're talking.

496
00:23:11.950 --> 00:23:16.619
<v Speaker 3>All right. These creatures were not vampires in the modern sense,

497
00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:19.420
<v Speaker 3>but they shared one important feature. They fed upon the living.

498
00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:22.920
<v Speaker 3>By the Middle Ages, vampire belief began to take on

499
00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:27.329
<v Speaker 3>a form that would become much more familiar. Familiar. Familia.

500
00:23:27.549 --> 00:23:30.029
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to not lose my R's. Like, I wanted

501
00:23:30.049 --> 00:23:32.869
<v Speaker 3>to say familia. Familia. But I'm trying to say familiar.

502
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.309
<v Speaker 3>And then I thought I overdid it with a yulier.

503
00:23:35.329 --> 00:23:36.589
<v Speaker 3>It was just too much.

504
00:23:36.869 --> 00:23:38.589
<v Speaker 2>Everybody, you know what? When we were doing the Film

505
00:23:38.609 --> 00:23:40.769
<v Speaker 2>Joke podcast, I remember there was a listener that said

506
00:23:40.789 --> 00:23:42.289
<v Speaker 2>that they loved your accent.

507
00:23:42.470 --> 00:23:44.390
<v Speaker 3>I don't even think I have one. But there's certain

508
00:23:44.430 --> 00:23:47.700
<v Speaker 3>words with that. Like if I say stairs too fast,

509
00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:48.500
<v Speaker 3>it's stairs.

510
00:23:48.539 --> 00:23:49.019
<v Speaker 2>Stairs.

511
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:50.680
<v Speaker 3>But if I say stairs.

512
00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

513
00:23:51.339 --> 00:23:54.180
<v Speaker 3>I have to remember to say stairs. But then if

514
00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:57.160
<v Speaker 3>I overdo it, it's like stairs. It becomes aggressive.

515
00:23:57.180 --> 00:23:59.529
<v Speaker 2>I fell down the stairs. I like it. I think

516
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:00.309
<v Speaker 2>it's cute.

517
00:24:01.829 --> 00:24:05.410
<v Speaker 3>Across Europe, many people believed that the dead could sometimes

518
00:24:05.490 --> 00:24:08.829
<v Speaker 3>return to harm the living. These beings were often called revenants.

519
00:24:09.470 --> 00:24:11.789
<v Speaker 3>A revenant was a corpse that rose from its grave

520
00:24:11.869 --> 00:24:15.269
<v Speaker 3>because something had gone wrong or a person had died

521
00:24:15.369 --> 00:24:19.349
<v Speaker 3>suddenly or they had been cursed or some thought because

522
00:24:19.589 --> 00:24:24.079
<v Speaker 3>they were considered wicked during life. Or perhaps the community

523
00:24:24.140 --> 00:24:26.559
<v Speaker 3>simply believed that they were responsible for a series of

524
00:24:26.660 --> 00:24:30.319
<v Speaker 3>unexplained deaths. At a time when medicine was poorly understood,

525
00:24:30.420 --> 00:24:34.240
<v Speaker 3>diseases could rapidly spread through villages. And when several family

526
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:38.089
<v Speaker 3>members died within days or weeks, people searched for explanation.

527
00:24:38.369 --> 00:24:41.309
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they blamed the dead. One corpse might be accused

528
00:24:41.349 --> 00:24:43.789
<v Speaker 3>of returning at night to drain the strengths of relatives.

529
00:24:44.170 --> 00:24:48.509
<v Speaker 3>Communities sometimes dug up bodies and performed rituals intended to

530
00:24:48.569 --> 00:24:52.410
<v Speaker 3>prevent the dead from returning. The rituals varied. Some involved

531
00:24:52.470 --> 00:24:55.950
<v Speaker 3>dismembering the deceased or putting rocks over the body. Oh,

532
00:24:55.970 --> 00:24:58.910
<v Speaker 3>this one was kind of weird. Putting poppies in the grave. Poppies.

533
00:24:59.230 --> 00:24:59.849
<v Speaker 3>Like Wizard of Oz.

534
00:25:00.069 --> 00:25:00.650
<v Speaker 2>I'm familiar.

535
00:25:02.170 --> 00:25:03.390
<v Speaker 3>I've never heard that until this.

536
00:25:03.410 --> 00:25:04.109
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

537
00:25:04.430 --> 00:25:07.049
<v Speaker 3>Or some would put a coin in the dead person's mouth.

538
00:25:07.789 --> 00:25:11.900
<v Speaker 3>Some even place sickles across the buried person's neck. So

539
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.220
<v Speaker 3>if they rose up, their head would be cut off.

540
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.619
<v Speaker 3>Like they wouldn't cut their family member or friends off. Damn.

541
00:25:18.210 --> 00:25:20.509
<v Speaker 3>But they set it up. So like if they tried anything.

542
00:25:20.569 --> 00:25:21.190
<v Speaker 2>I dare you.

543
00:25:22.710 --> 00:25:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Or I'm sure you've heard of burying them upside down.

544
00:25:25.019 --> 00:25:27.319
<v Speaker 3>So if they tried to get out of the grave,

545
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:28.839
<v Speaker 3>they'd go down instead of up.

546
00:25:30.019 --> 00:25:31.660
<v Speaker 2>The one that I don't know if you have it there,

547
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:34.180
<v Speaker 2>but the one that I know of is that they

548
00:25:34.220 --> 00:25:38.250
<v Speaker 2>would put a stake through you. So that you wouldn't

549
00:25:38.289 --> 00:25:42.309
<v Speaker 2>be able to get back up. That's where the whole myth, well,

550
00:25:42.609 --> 00:25:45.380
<v Speaker 2>legend where. That's how you can kill a vampire, but

551
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.099
<v Speaker 2>put a mistake through his heart. But initially, it was

552
00:25:48.140 --> 00:25:49.779
<v Speaker 2>to keep them in their grave.

553
00:25:50.140 --> 00:25:52.900
<v Speaker 3>I didn't list it because there's so many. That was

554
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the end of my list, but I have heard of

555
00:25:54.500 --> 00:25:55.180
<v Speaker 3>that one before.

556
00:25:55.500 --> 00:25:56.299
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that one's cool.

557
00:25:56.609 --> 00:25:58.660
<v Speaker 3>But they did some gnarly stuff to try to get

558
00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:00.769
<v Speaker 3>these people in. They had like metal cages. They had

559
00:26:00.849 --> 00:26:04.329
<v Speaker 3>all kinds of nonsense, but I just listed some. But

560
00:26:04.369 --> 00:26:08.329
<v Speaker 3>these practices have actually been discovered in archaeological sites across

561
00:26:08.369 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 3>parts of Europe. The word vampire became widely known during

562
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:15.289
<v Speaker 3>the 18th century. During this period, reports of alleged vampire

563
00:26:15.309 --> 00:26:18.609
<v Speaker 3>attacks emerged from parts of Eastern Europe, especially in the

564
00:26:18.730 --> 00:26:22.869
<v Speaker 3>areas that are now Serbia and neighboring regions. Two famous

565
00:26:22.910 --> 00:26:28.299
<v Speaker 3>cases captured the attention of Europe. The first involved Pitar Blagojevic.

566
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:31.460
<v Speaker 2>That sounds legit.

567
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:36.579
<v Speaker 3>Who died in 1725. According to reports, several people in

568
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:39.190
<v Speaker 3>the village claimed that Pitar, I'm not even going to

569
00:26:39.210 --> 00:26:41.890
<v Speaker 3>say his last name again, appeared to them after his death.

570
00:26:42.150 --> 00:26:46.700
<v Speaker 3>And soon afterward, villagers began dying. When his grave was opened,

571
00:26:47.019 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 3>witnesses claimed his body appeared unusually well preserved. To them,

572
00:26:50.940 --> 00:26:53.579
<v Speaker 3>this was evidence that he had become a vampire, which

573
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:54.920
<v Speaker 3>it could have just been the temperature.

574
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.359
<v Speaker 2>But it could have been, you know, it could have

575
00:26:57.380 --> 00:26:59.460
<v Speaker 2>been so many things like, you know, maybe like the

576
00:26:59.539 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 2>minerals in the soil that he was buried in. You know,

577
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.369
<v Speaker 2>that could have preserved him as well. I don't know

578
00:27:06.380 --> 00:27:08.910
<v Speaker 2>where I heard that. I heard it somewhere, but yeah.

579
00:27:09.650 --> 00:27:14.710
<v Speaker 3>Another famous case was Arnold Paoli, a former soldier who

580
00:27:14.750 --> 00:27:19.309
<v Speaker 3>died in 1726. Local residents claim that Paoli had once

581
00:27:19.369 --> 00:27:23.220
<v Speaker 3>encountered a vampire himself. He believed he had taken precautions

582
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.799
<v Speaker 3>to protect himself. After his death, villagers reported seeing him again.

583
00:27:27.460 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 3>And when more people died, authorities actually went out and investigated.

584
00:27:31.259 --> 00:27:34.299
<v Speaker 3>And then they actually wrote reports... and they were circulated

585
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.650
<v Speaker 3>throughout Europe. And suddenly, educated people in Paris, London, and

586
00:27:37.670 --> 00:27:41.630
<v Speaker 3>Vienna were debating whether vampires were real. These incidents became

587
00:27:41.690 --> 00:27:47.390
<v Speaker 3>known as the vampire controversies. Then to 1728 in New Orleans,

588
00:27:47.690 --> 00:27:52.869
<v Speaker 3>where more men than quote-unquote respectable women were, because, you know,

589
00:27:52.890 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 3>they had to be respectable if they were deemed fit

590
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.299
<v Speaker 3>for marriage. So the French crown, King Louis XV, sent

591
00:27:59.619 --> 00:28:03.210
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of young women to the newly colonized you know,

592
00:28:03.329 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 3>French colonized New Orleans to populate the area.

593
00:28:06.900 --> 00:28:08.140
<v Speaker 2>French Quarter? Yes.

594
00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:11.180
<v Speaker 3>The women were sent by boat. The young French women

595
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:13.960
<v Speaker 3>arrived in New Orleans to marry settlers and help grow

596
00:28:13.980 --> 00:28:17.299
<v Speaker 3>the colony. They were called the Casket Girls because supposedly

597
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:22.750
<v Speaker 3>they brought small coffin-shaped trunks, or casquettes in French, containing

598
00:28:22.769 --> 00:28:26.150
<v Speaker 3>their belongings. They were housed with the Ursuline nuns at

599
00:28:26.170 --> 00:28:30.329
<v Speaker 3>the Ursuline convent. Later folklore claimed the girls were actually vampires.

600
00:28:30.869 --> 00:28:35.130
<v Speaker 3>with the mysterious trunks supposedly containing their coffins, according to

601
00:28:35.170 --> 00:28:37.940
<v Speaker 3>legend that the trunks were kept in the convent's attic

602
00:28:38.019 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 3>and eventually sealed shut because something sinister was supposedly happening.

603
00:28:42.460 --> 00:28:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Some say that they brought zombies... Zombies, hi! Some say

604
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:49.799
<v Speaker 3>that they brought vampires with them. Others say that they brought, like,

605
00:28:49.900 --> 00:28:54.150
<v Speaker 3>soil of vampires, and somehow that did it. I'm not

606
00:28:54.190 --> 00:28:58.630
<v Speaker 3>really sure, but realistically, they were in ships kept under there,

607
00:28:58.750 --> 00:29:02.049
<v Speaker 3>so they probably contracted something When they got off their boat,

608
00:29:02.089 --> 00:29:05.039
<v Speaker 3>they looked pale, but because they hadn't seen sun in

609
00:29:05.180 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 3>however long, however many weeks, months, whatever, so obviously they're

610
00:29:08.859 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Speaker 3>going to look pale.

611
00:29:10.109 --> 00:29:10.420
<v Speaker 2>Right.

612
00:29:10.750 --> 00:29:13.529
<v Speaker 3>And if you don't have vitamin C and you're on

613
00:29:13.569 --> 00:29:17.339
<v Speaker 3>a boat, you can get scurvy which causes bleeding gums

614
00:29:17.859 --> 00:29:20.779
<v Speaker 3>so okay or they brought some sort of disease and

615
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.109
<v Speaker 3>then people in the area started dying because maybe they

616
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.829
<v Speaker 3>brought tuberculosis or something with them so people are dying

617
00:29:25.869 --> 00:29:26.750
<v Speaker 3>so they're like oh they're.

618
00:29:26.609 --> 00:29:31.109
<v Speaker 2>Vampires yeah somehow you know traveling by ship does not

619
00:29:31.170 --> 00:29:34.420
<v Speaker 2>sound you know very nice back in those days Oh,

620
00:29:34.450 --> 00:29:37.309
<v Speaker 2>it's probably disgusting. God, that sounds horrible.

621
00:29:37.710 --> 00:29:38.450
<v Speaker 3>No showers.

622
00:29:38.910 --> 00:29:40.910
<v Speaker 2>No pools. No margaritas.

623
00:29:42.299 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Nope.

624
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 2>No margaritas.

625
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:44.339
<v Speaker 3>No tajin.

626
00:29:45.980 --> 00:29:46.299
<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

627
00:29:46.339 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 5>No tequila.

628
00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>No tequila. Oh, man. That sounds horrible.

629
00:29:51.380 --> 00:29:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Then there's the story of Count St. Germain. I don't

630
00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:54.900
<v Speaker 3>know if you've ever heard of him.

631
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:56.140
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of him.

632
00:29:56.670 --> 00:29:58.950
<v Speaker 3>We should do a whole thing on him. The enigmatic

633
00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:02.190
<v Speaker 3>18th century occult figure whose real identity to this day

634
00:30:02.250 --> 00:30:06.910
<v Speaker 3>remains a mystery. He appeared among the wealthy and powerful circles.

635
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<v Speaker 3>He was like a mysterious European aristocrat. And he was

636
00:30:11.730 --> 00:30:15.529
<v Speaker 3>seen a lot around Europe, especially around France. He claimed

637
00:30:15.670 --> 00:30:19.390
<v Speaker 3>or was rumored to have extraordinary knowledge of alchemy, languages,

638
00:30:19.750 --> 00:30:23.549
<v Speaker 3>could play multiple instruments, knew a lot about science, history.

639
00:30:23.789 --> 00:30:26.029
<v Speaker 3>And he spoke of things like he was actually there.

640
00:30:27.069 --> 00:30:29.670
<v Speaker 3>The biggest legend is that he was immortal or he

641
00:30:29.710 --> 00:30:32.569
<v Speaker 3>discovered the elixir of life. People claim that he looked

642
00:30:32.589 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 3>the same for decades. He was always like right around

643
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.420
<v Speaker 3>40 years old. And stories say that he could predict

644
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.059
<v Speaker 3>the future. He could turn ordinary materials into precious metals.

645
00:30:42.700 --> 00:30:46.160
<v Speaker 3>And he possessed immense secret knowledge. And I know it

646
00:30:46.180 --> 00:30:48.160
<v Speaker 3>sounds like just an alchemist, but there is also a

647
00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>story of him in New Orleans when he had like

648
00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 3>this big lavish party and everyone left and it was

649
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:57.630
<v Speaker 3>just him and a girl. And supposedly like he, she

650
00:30:57.710 --> 00:30:59.990
<v Speaker 3>jumped off the ledge and she was saying, he tried

651
00:31:00.009 --> 00:31:01.710
<v Speaker 3>to bite me. He tried to bite me. And then

652
00:31:01.809 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 3>he disappeared. And when the police went into his house,

653
00:31:05.339 --> 00:31:08.339
<v Speaker 3>the wine bottles he had. actually had like wine and

654
00:31:08.380 --> 00:31:10.980
<v Speaker 3>blood mixed together oh shit it's a whole long thing

655
00:31:11.019 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 3>i'm just giving you the very short version you.

656
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.740
<v Speaker 2>Know it's funny though because you're uh when you're reading

657
00:31:15.779 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 2>this to me i'm obviously going towards movies and you

658
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 2>know this was obviously a lot of this stuff was

659
00:31:22.339 --> 00:31:26.380
<v Speaker 2>obviously inspiration for you know a lot of vampire movies

660
00:31:26.740 --> 00:31:30.049
<v Speaker 2>when you mentioned the the wine and the blood Automatically,

661
00:31:30.089 --> 00:31:33.589
<v Speaker 2>what comes to mind is The Lost Boys, where David

662
00:31:33.650 --> 00:31:36.109
<v Speaker 2>gives Michael the wine and he drinks it and he

663
00:31:36.150 --> 00:31:39.339
<v Speaker 2>becomes a vampire because there's blood in there. Yeah, Lost Boys.

664
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.940
<v Speaker 3>So although St. Germain, Count St. Germain, was reportedly dead

665
00:31:42.980 --> 00:31:48.559
<v Speaker 3>by 1784, stories of mysterious sightings continued afterwards in different

666
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.650
<v Speaker 3>time periods. Yet he always appeared the same age. And

667
00:31:51.690 --> 00:31:54.789
<v Speaker 3>he has sightings as recent as like the 1970s. And

668
00:31:54.829 --> 00:31:56.809
<v Speaker 3>the reason they know what he looks like is because

669
00:31:56.849 --> 00:31:59.250
<v Speaker 3>back then he sat for paintings. So they have actual

670
00:31:59.309 --> 00:32:00.089
<v Speaker 3>paintings of him.

671
00:32:00.630 --> 00:32:01.089
<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow.

672
00:32:01.150 --> 00:32:02.170
<v Speaker 3>That they can compare him to.

673
00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:06.750
<v Speaker 2>Damn, that's crazy. Like the Elvis sightings. Elvis is probably

674
00:32:06.769 --> 00:32:07.309
<v Speaker 2>a vampire too.

675
00:32:07.750 --> 00:32:10.170
<v Speaker 3>I've heard Christopher Walken was. They always say that on

676
00:32:10.190 --> 00:32:10.769
<v Speaker 3>like TikTok.

677
00:32:10.970 --> 00:32:13.450
<v Speaker 2>What? I've never heard that. Yeah.

678
00:32:14.220 --> 00:32:16.279
<v Speaker 3>Go down that rabbit hole one day at 2 a.m.

679
00:32:17.539 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

680
00:32:18.180 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 3>This is the last example of a vampire, but Mercy Brown,

681
00:32:21.099 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 3>which I did the whole episode, she was a young

682
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.329
<v Speaker 3>woman from Rhode Island whose death in 1892 became one

683
00:32:26.349 --> 00:32:30.250
<v Speaker 3>of America's most famous vampire legends. She died of tuberculosis,

684
00:32:30.430 --> 00:32:32.950
<v Speaker 3>as did several members of her family, but at the time,

685
00:32:32.990 --> 00:32:36.829
<v Speaker 3>people didn't understand how tuberculosis spread, and families sometimes believed

686
00:32:36.890 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 3>a deceased relative was draining the life from those who

687
00:32:39.380 --> 00:32:42.769
<v Speaker 3>were still sick. After Mercy died, her relatives became ill,

688
00:32:42.869 --> 00:32:45.670
<v Speaker 3>and locals suspected she was a vampire. Her body was

689
00:32:45.730 --> 00:32:48.410
<v Speaker 3>exhumed about two months after death, and her heart and

690
00:32:48.470 --> 00:32:51.740
<v Speaker 3>liver were actually removed and burned, and the ashes were

691
00:32:51.779 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 3>reportedly mixed into a drink and given to her sick

692
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 3>brother Edwin as a supposed cure. Edwin died soon after,

693
00:32:58.460 --> 00:33:01.319
<v Speaker 3>and the story became part of American folklore and is

694
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.859
<v Speaker 3>often cited as one of the last vampire-related exhumations in

695
00:33:04.900 --> 00:33:05.380
<v Speaker 3>New England.

696
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:05.940
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

697
00:33:06.329 --> 00:33:08.390
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, when you think about vampires and you go back

698
00:33:08.430 --> 00:33:14.730
<v Speaker 2>into history, you obviously think of the vampire himself, Vlad Draku,

699
00:33:14.890 --> 00:33:18.950
<v Speaker 2>who later on was Dracula. Apparently, Vlad Draku was actually

700
00:33:18.970 --> 00:33:24.259
<v Speaker 2>an actual person, also known as Vlad the Impaler. I

701
00:33:24.299 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they said he was a vampire or

702
00:33:27.099 --> 00:33:29.380
<v Speaker 2>they just got his story and said, you know what,

703
00:33:29.819 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 2>this would be a good base for a vampire story.

704
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:38.329
<v Speaker 2>Because apparently, he used to... chop off their heads, put

705
00:33:38.349 --> 00:33:41.990
<v Speaker 2>them on a stick, and he would drink their blood.

706
00:33:42.470 --> 00:33:45.109
<v Speaker 2>He would dip the bread into the blood and he

707
00:33:45.130 --> 00:33:45.599
<v Speaker 2>would eat it.

708
00:33:45.809 --> 00:33:47.029
<v Speaker 3>He's a complete sicko.

709
00:33:47.130 --> 00:33:49.529
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. I'm sure there's more to that, but yeah,

710
00:33:49.569 --> 00:33:53.019
<v Speaker 2>that's the whole thing where, you know, you live forever and,

711
00:33:53.170 --> 00:33:55.140
<v Speaker 2>you know, the blood is power. I think a lot

712
00:33:55.180 --> 00:33:58.420
<v Speaker 2>of folklore does revolve around that, where, you know, drinking

713
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:01.259
<v Speaker 2>blood does, you know, make you powerful. Yeah, I always

714
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.619
<v Speaker 2>found that fascinating. But that's cool. You know, that's awesome.

715
00:34:04.829 --> 00:34:06.549
<v Speaker 2>He came up with, you know, all these other people,

716
00:34:06.569 --> 00:34:08.889
<v Speaker 2>you know, those accounts. I think that's awesome.

717
00:34:09.269 --> 00:34:11.389
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot more. I just picked some of

718
00:34:11.429 --> 00:34:13.789
<v Speaker 3>the more well-known ones, I guess. I probably should have

719
00:34:13.809 --> 00:34:14.949
<v Speaker 3>gone the other way and gone less known.

720
00:34:16.050 --> 00:34:17.909
<v Speaker 2>No, but that's cool. I like that. I like that. Yeah,

721
00:34:17.949 --> 00:34:19.159
<v Speaker 2>like I said, you know, a lot of people would

722
00:34:19.179 --> 00:34:21.860
<v Speaker 2>have gone straight to, you know, Vlad the Impaler.

723
00:34:22.699 --> 00:34:23.340
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he's in here.

724
00:34:23.460 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh, he is. Yeah, he's the vampire.

725
00:34:25.980 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 3>Today, historians and scientists believe that there were many reasons

726
00:34:29.099 --> 00:34:33.780
<v Speaker 3>vampire stories spread. One was disease. Tuberculosis, for example, often

727
00:34:33.820 --> 00:34:38.019
<v Speaker 3>affected several members in the same family. Victims became pale, thin,

728
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.480
<v Speaker 3>and weak before dying. To grieving relatives, it could seem

729
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.980
<v Speaker 3>as if one dead family member was somehow draining life

730
00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 3>from others. Another explanation involved the natural process of decomposition.

731
00:34:49.820 --> 00:34:52.699
<v Speaker 3>People in the 18th century didn't understand how bodies changed

732
00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:57.000
<v Speaker 3>after death. A corpse buried during cold winter might remain

733
00:34:57.019 --> 00:35:01.909
<v Speaker 3>surprisingly well preserved. And as the body... Decomposes, gases can

734
00:35:01.949 --> 00:35:04.809
<v Speaker 3>cause swelling, and fluids can emerge from the mouth or nose,

735
00:35:04.909 --> 00:35:07.849
<v Speaker 3>creating the appearance that the body has recently fed on blood.

736
00:35:08.210 --> 00:35:11.730
<v Speaker 3>What looks supernatural to villagers often had a natural explanation.

737
00:35:12.809 --> 00:35:16.269
<v Speaker 3>Everything changed in 1897. That was the year author... I

738
00:35:17.070 --> 00:35:18.449
<v Speaker 3>don't know why it's so hard for me to say

739
00:35:18.469 --> 00:35:23.710
<v Speaker 3>his last name. Bram Stoker published Dracula. Stoker did not

740
00:35:23.789 --> 00:35:27.670
<v Speaker 3>invent vampires. Instead, he gathered together centuries of folklore and

741
00:35:27.710 --> 00:35:35.139
<v Speaker 3>transformed it into one unforgettable... One unforgettable character. Count Dracula.

742
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Dracula lived in a castle in Transylvania. He slept in

743
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:42.579
<v Speaker 3>a coffin, he drank human blood, and he could transform

744
00:35:42.619 --> 00:35:46.300
<v Speaker 3>into a bat. He feared sunlight, garlic, and religious symbols.

745
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 3>Many of these traits came from earlier folklore, while others

746
00:35:49.619 --> 00:35:54.340
<v Speaker 3>were Stoker's own inventions or adaptations. Dracula quickly became one

747
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.429
<v Speaker 3>of the most famous vampires in history. Many people ask

748
00:35:57.489 --> 00:36:00.260
<v Speaker 3>if he was based on a real person. One name

749
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.989
<v Speaker 3>he is often connected to is Vlad III, also known

750
00:36:05.030 --> 00:36:08.969
<v Speaker 3>as Vlad the Impaler. Vlad was the 15th century ruler of, ah,

751
00:36:09.489 --> 00:36:11.050
<v Speaker 3>these words, Wallachia?

752
00:36:11.309 --> 00:36:13.030
<v Speaker 2>Wallachia? I think it's Wallachia.

753
00:36:13.130 --> 00:36:16.510
<v Speaker 3>What she said. It's now known as Romania. He's known

754
00:36:16.530 --> 00:36:19.969
<v Speaker 3>for his brutal treatment of enemies, especially impalement. His father

755
00:36:20.010 --> 00:36:22.570
<v Speaker 3>had belonged to the Order of the Dragon, which gave

756
00:36:22.630 --> 00:36:25.650
<v Speaker 3>Vlad the nickname Draculea? Draculea?

757
00:36:25.670 --> 00:36:28.409
<v Speaker 2>Draculea. Yeah, Draculea.

758
00:36:29.090 --> 00:36:33.329
<v Speaker 3>Then, which meant roughly the son of the dragon. And

759
00:36:33.389 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Bram Stoker used the name Dracula. However, historians generally agree

760
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.219
<v Speaker 3>that Vlad's influence on the novel was probably limited. There's

761
00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:44.599
<v Speaker 3>also little evidence that Stoker based Count Dracula's personality or

762
00:36:44.780 --> 00:36:49.670
<v Speaker 3>supernatural abilities directly on Vlad. Still, the connection has become

763
00:36:49.730 --> 00:36:53.429
<v Speaker 3>part of popular culture. And then the 20th century gave

764
00:36:53.469 --> 00:36:58.179
<v Speaker 3>vampires a new life. In 1922, the silent film Nosferatu

765
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:02.460
<v Speaker 3>introduced one of cinema's creepiest vampires, Count Orlok.

766
00:37:02.980 --> 00:37:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Orlok? Yeah, I think that's right.

767
00:37:04.860 --> 00:37:10.010
<v Speaker 3>Unlike the elegant Dracula, Orlok looked almost corpse-like with long fingers,

768
00:37:11.010 --> 00:37:15.070
<v Speaker 3>sharp teeth, sunken eyes, and he helped establish the image

769
00:37:15.190 --> 00:37:20.070
<v Speaker 3>of the frightening vampire. Then came actors like Bela Lugosi.

770
00:37:20.300 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Bela Lugosi, yeah.

771
00:37:21.630 --> 00:37:26.210
<v Speaker 3>Whose portrayal of Dracula in 1931 became iconic. His cape, accent,

772
00:37:26.469 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 3>and dramatic presence influenced generations of vampire films. Later came

773
00:37:30.980 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Christopher Lee, who portrayed Dracula in a series of hammer

774
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.860
<v Speaker 3>horror films during the 1950s through the 70s. His version

775
00:37:37.900 --> 00:37:41.030
<v Speaker 3>was darker and more violent. And by the 20th century,

776
00:37:41.090 --> 00:37:44.610
<v Speaker 3>vampires had changed. They were no longer always monsters. Sometimes

777
00:37:44.630 --> 00:37:48.469
<v Speaker 3>they were heroes. Sometimes they were tragic figures. And this

778
00:37:48.570 --> 00:37:52.900
<v Speaker 3>is Daisy's favorite. Anne Rice's Interview with the Vampire.

779
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:53.659
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

780
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:58.099
<v Speaker 3>Presented vampires as emotional, immortal beings who were struggling with loneliness.

781
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 3>And then one of my favorites, the television series Buffy

782
00:38:01.539 --> 00:38:04.460
<v Speaker 3>the Vampire Slayer, mixed horror, comedy, and romance.

783
00:38:04.500 --> 00:38:07.659
<v Speaker 2>I love Buffy. Oh, my God.

784
00:38:07.820 --> 00:38:08.230
<v Speaker 3>So good.

785
00:38:08.329 --> 00:38:09.110
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. So good.

786
00:38:09.130 --> 00:38:13.909
<v Speaker 3>And then Joe's favorite, the Twilight series, introduced vampires to

787
00:38:13.949 --> 00:38:17.989
<v Speaker 3>a new generation through stories of love and identity. He's

788
00:38:18.010 --> 00:38:18.849
<v Speaker 3>going to punch me for that.

789
00:38:19.150 --> 00:38:22.409
<v Speaker 2>No bullshit. I did like it's my guilty pleasure.

790
00:38:23.570 --> 00:38:25.659
<v Speaker 3>Girl, I read all the books. I could not wait

791
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:27.579
<v Speaker 3>until the movies came out. I loved him. He's the

792
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 3>one that knocks him. I'd probably still watch him now.

793
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I'd probably be cringed out, but I'd still watch him.

794
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.619
<v Speaker 2>It's a guilty pleasure. But did you watch? Was it

795
00:38:36.500 --> 00:38:40.860
<v Speaker 2>Rising Sun or the book that was written on his perspective?

796
00:38:41.219 --> 00:38:42.119
<v Speaker 3>Was it the third book?

797
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.110
<v Speaker 2>OK, so we have, you know, Breaking Dawn and all those.

798
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 2>But there was another one. Where it's written on, what's

799
00:38:50.099 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 2>his face, Edward's perspective. This came way after.

800
00:38:53.260 --> 00:38:55.780
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I only read the three in a row. I

801
00:38:55.820 --> 00:38:57.090
<v Speaker 3>didn't read anything after that.

802
00:38:57.110 --> 00:39:01.630
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't read it. I think I got the audiobook.

803
00:39:02.050 --> 00:39:06.789
<v Speaker 2>All it is, it's his inner monologue. It's not being

804
00:39:06.869 --> 00:39:10.639
<v Speaker 2>told from his perspective when he first sees Bella. There's

805
00:39:11.460 --> 00:39:14.030
<v Speaker 2>the back and forth between him and Bella. But no,

806
00:39:14.190 --> 00:39:16.639
<v Speaker 2>it's not that at all. It's his inner monologue, like

807
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:19.099
<v Speaker 2>him thinking, oh, my God, she thinks or, you know,

808
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 2>her scent. And it's just him fucking complaining. And it's,

809
00:39:24.389 --> 00:39:27.429
<v Speaker 2>don't do it. You know, I read another book where

810
00:39:27.449 --> 00:39:29.449
<v Speaker 2>it was from the point of view of the other person.

811
00:39:29.469 --> 00:39:32.030
<v Speaker 2>And it was awful. because it's literally the story of

812
00:39:32.110 --> 00:39:34.050
<v Speaker 2>him and how he felt and what he was going

813
00:39:34.070 --> 00:39:36.789
<v Speaker 2>through it was the story it was his character he

814
00:39:36.829 --> 00:39:39.570
<v Speaker 2>had dialogue no this was just inner monologue and it

815
00:39:39.590 --> 00:39:40.949
<v Speaker 2>was just garbage.

816
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:42.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah that doesn't sound very good no it's no bueno

817
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:43.460
<v Speaker 4>he's a little bitch.

818
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:49.260
<v Speaker 3>No bueno no basura basura so the Twilight series introduced

819
00:39:51.179 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 3>I think I already said this.

820
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

821
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.679
<v Speaker 3>Introduce vampires to a new generation through the story of

822
00:39:55.739 --> 00:39:59.179
<v Speaker 3>love and identity. More recently, shows like The Vampire Diary

823
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.500
<v Speaker 3>and What We Do in the Shadows have explored everything

824
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.849
<v Speaker 3>from romance to comedy. The vampire has become one of

825
00:40:04.869 --> 00:40:09.469
<v Speaker 3>the most flexible creatures in fiction. It can be terrifying, seductive, funny,

826
00:40:10.289 --> 00:40:14.429
<v Speaker 3>or deeply human. It seems like each reflects the fears

827
00:40:14.510 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 3>and interests of the culture that creates them. For thousands

828
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.099
<v Speaker 3>of years, vampires have changed with us. Ancient people imagined

829
00:40:21.139 --> 00:40:24.909
<v Speaker 3>demons that stole life. Medieval villagers feared the restless dead.

830
00:40:25.630 --> 00:40:29.409
<v Speaker 3>18th century Europeans debated whether corpses could rise from their grave.

831
00:40:30.170 --> 00:40:35.230
<v Speaker 3>Victorian readers met Count Dracula. And modern audiences continue to

832
00:40:35.269 --> 00:40:39.510
<v Speaker 3>reinvent the vampire in novels, movies, television, and games. Perhaps

833
00:40:39.610 --> 00:40:45.360
<v Speaker 3>vampires remain popular because they represent some of humanity's oldest fears. Death, disease,

834
00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:49.019
<v Speaker 3>and the unknown. and the unsettling question of whether the

835
00:40:49.059 --> 00:40:51.780
<v Speaker 3>dead are truly gone. As long as people tell stories

836
00:40:51.820 --> 00:40:55.079
<v Speaker 3>about the darkness, there will likely be vampires waiting inside

837
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:55.300
<v Speaker 3>of it.

838
00:40:55.739 --> 00:40:56.460
<v Speaker 2>I love vampires.

839
00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 3>So if you heard a scratch at the window, would

840
00:40:59.340 --> 00:41:00.039
<v Speaker 3>you invite them in?

841
00:41:00.099 --> 00:41:04.429
<v Speaker 2>No. They're staying out there. No. If I was younger,

842
00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:09.130
<v Speaker 2>if I was 25, which we've already said that that

843
00:41:09.170 --> 00:41:12.909
<v Speaker 2>was like the perfect age. If I was 25, yes.

844
00:41:13.809 --> 00:41:19.820
<v Speaker 2>At my age, no, no. said i romanticize the hell

845
00:41:19.989 --> 00:41:23.139
<v Speaker 2>out of vampires i mean that they're the perfect hunters

846
00:41:24.260 --> 00:41:27.460
<v Speaker 2>be perfect they're beautiful they don't age you know and

847
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.530
<v Speaker 2>i think that their beauty is what helps them hunt

848
00:41:30.989 --> 00:41:34.090
<v Speaker 2>for their prey there's different types of vampires too some

849
00:41:34.150 --> 00:41:37.389
<v Speaker 2>that have mind control some that can read your mind

850
00:41:37.449 --> 00:41:42.369
<v Speaker 2>some that can fly some that can other animals like

851
00:41:42.409 --> 00:41:45.769
<v Speaker 2>a bat or wolf. Some that can actually live in

852
00:41:45.849 --> 00:41:48.110
<v Speaker 2>sunlight like the Twilight vampires.

853
00:41:48.389 --> 00:41:49.329
<v Speaker 3>Oh, sparkly.

854
00:41:49.349 --> 00:41:51.989
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, though? I mean, I think, you know,

855
00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:54.170
<v Speaker 2>the reason that they made them sparkle is not just

856
00:41:54.210 --> 00:41:58.079
<v Speaker 2>to be, you know, bedazzled vampires. Stephanie Meyer portrayed them

857
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.460
<v Speaker 2>that way because that made them the best hunters. I mean,

858
00:42:01.500 --> 00:42:03.460
<v Speaker 2>you know, you see somebody sparkling. Are you going to

859
00:42:03.500 --> 00:42:04.460
<v Speaker 2>run away from that shit?

860
00:42:04.940 --> 00:42:05.099
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah.

861
00:42:05.699 --> 00:42:07.780
<v Speaker 2>I want to see what you sparkle. I want to

862
00:42:07.820 --> 00:42:08.179
<v Speaker 2>touch you.

863
00:42:08.889 --> 00:42:09.969
<v Speaker 3>Bitch, why are you sparkling?

864
00:42:10.050 --> 00:42:13.110
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, you're like, well, come and see. You know,

865
00:42:13.329 --> 00:42:15.309
<v Speaker 2>you come and see and then bam, you're praying.

866
00:42:15.550 --> 00:42:17.250
<v Speaker 3>I should have written some of these down, but I

867
00:42:17.289 --> 00:42:19.590
<v Speaker 3>was looking at Reddit because to me, if there were

868
00:42:19.610 --> 00:42:22.179
<v Speaker 3>vampires anywhere in the world right now, there are no Orleans.

869
00:42:22.809 --> 00:42:24.329
<v Speaker 3>Like that's the vampire central to me.

870
00:42:24.369 --> 00:42:27.250
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's where Ed Rice got all of, you know,

871
00:42:27.409 --> 00:42:30.530
<v Speaker 2>that's how she was inspired. All of her vampires come

872
00:42:30.570 --> 00:42:31.309
<v Speaker 2>from New Orleans.

873
00:42:31.570 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like they're definitely there. If there's anywhere in the

874
00:42:33.820 --> 00:42:37.320
<v Speaker 3>world that there's like a group, that's them. But they

875
00:42:37.340 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 3>have all these stories of people that will be like,

876
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 3>I had this knock, I opened the door, and then

877
00:42:42.059 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 3>I let this guy in and I totally forget what

878
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:47.239
<v Speaker 3>happens after this. Like, so I think they definitely have

879
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 3>some sort of mind control or mind erase power or

880
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 3>hypnotic or mesmer or something going on.

881
00:42:53.260 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I'd be a total victim.

882
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:56.940
<v Speaker 4>Like.

883
00:42:58.170 --> 00:43:01.349
<v Speaker 2>Who portrayed the sexiest vampire?

884
00:43:01.510 --> 00:43:01.969
<v Speaker 3>Brad Pitt.

885
00:43:02.300 --> 00:43:04.780
<v Speaker 2>You know what? Brad Pitt. I've been known to be

886
00:43:05.019 --> 00:43:08.619
<v Speaker 2>the stalker of Glenn Powell, but before Glenn Powell, there

887
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.739
<v Speaker 2>was Brad Pitt. And my dear Lord, he was so,

888
00:43:12.780 --> 00:43:15.179
<v Speaker 2>he still is beautiful. And you know what? He is

889
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the most sexiest vampire. I was going to go with

890
00:43:16.940 --> 00:43:19.980
<v Speaker 2>the vampire from Fright Night. Have you ever seen Fright Night?

891
00:43:21.550 --> 00:43:24.269
<v Speaker 3>I gotta look him up now I might have seen.

892
00:43:24.210 --> 00:43:26.590
<v Speaker 2>It it's with Chris Sarandon oh I did see that

893
00:43:26.909 --> 00:43:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's not as sexy as Prince Humperdinck.

894
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:38.960
<v Speaker 5>Yes Humperdinck yes I mean he's not the best looking

895
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.699
<v Speaker 5>man he doesn't come close to Brad Pitt but there

896
00:43:41.739 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 5>was something so seductive.

897
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Like you know what dude just bite me already like

898
00:43:46.340 --> 00:43:47.119
<v Speaker 2>damn oh.

899
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.030
<v Speaker 3>There's like a Fright Night with Colin Farrell I haven't

900
00:43:50.050 --> 00:43:51.429
<v Speaker 3>seen that. I'd probably watch that one.

901
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>You know what? It's not as good. You know what?

902
00:43:54.059 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>It's its own entity. It's similar, but different.

903
00:44:01.260 --> 00:44:03.559
<v Speaker 3>I feel like this has turned into a Film Joe podcast.

904
00:44:03.699 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's my fault. I mean, we're talking about

905
00:44:06.500 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 2>creatures that have been made famous by movies, books and movies.

906
00:44:10.590 --> 00:44:13.449
<v Speaker 3>You can't really talk about vampires without talking about, because

907
00:44:13.489 --> 00:44:16.610
<v Speaker 3>I feel like with many creatures, with witches, with everything,

908
00:44:17.150 --> 00:44:21.090
<v Speaker 3>media shapes how people picture them. Like even at the beginning,

909
00:44:21.110 --> 00:44:22.969
<v Speaker 3>like when you picture it, don't you always think like

910
00:44:22.989 --> 00:44:24.710
<v Speaker 3>the sit up in the coffin or the.

911
00:44:24.789 --> 00:44:27.699
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, ah, ah, ah. That was the count. You know,

912
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.449
<v Speaker 2>that's how it was made famous. Yeah, I can't. talk

913
00:44:30.469 --> 00:44:33.670
<v Speaker 2>about something unless I reference a freaking movie. I prefer...

914
00:44:33.269 --> 00:44:37.369
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of pathetic, but I love the movies where

915
00:44:37.969 --> 00:44:42.340
<v Speaker 2>the vampire is portrayed by someone sexy and seductive. I

916
00:44:42.380 --> 00:44:45.619
<v Speaker 2>love the conflict within them. They're still trying to deal

917
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.110
<v Speaker 2>with being... A vampire. And I love it. The inner conflict.

918
00:44:50.289 --> 00:44:52.130
<v Speaker 2>You still feel like a human, but you're not. You're

919
00:44:52.230 --> 00:44:54.670
<v Speaker 2>something totally different now. You have to survive in a

920
00:44:54.710 --> 00:44:57.960
<v Speaker 2>totally different way. You have to survive by taking human

921
00:44:57.980 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 2>blood and sometimes even killing them. Yeah, I love vampires.

922
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I think they're awesome. If I was younger, I had

923
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:06.539
<v Speaker 2>no family. I would love to be a vampire, but

924
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.019
<v Speaker 2>I would be a good vampire. I'd be a vigilante.

925
00:45:09.260 --> 00:45:11.820
<v Speaker 3>So how would you feed? Can you feed off animals only?

926
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:12.949
<v Speaker 2>No, no.

927
00:45:13.050 --> 00:45:13.800
<v Speaker 3>But even then.

928
00:45:13.820 --> 00:45:15.789
<v Speaker 2>Feeding off of people, but I'm feeding off of the

929
00:45:15.829 --> 00:45:16.409
<v Speaker 2>bad people.

930
00:45:16.909 --> 00:45:17.269
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I gotcha.

931
00:45:17.309 --> 00:45:20.010
<v Speaker 2>So I'd be a vigilante. I'd be out there killing,

932
00:45:20.070 --> 00:45:22.110
<v Speaker 2>you know, all the bad people, cleaning up the streets.

933
00:45:22.389 --> 00:45:23.329
<v Speaker 3>Dexter vampire.

934
00:45:23.429 --> 00:45:26.449
<v Speaker 2>You know, not as weird as him. That was a

935
00:45:26.469 --> 00:45:29.550
<v Speaker 2>cool show, by the way. Yeah, I'd be a cool vampire.

936
00:45:29.849 --> 00:45:31.210
<v Speaker 2>I'd dress all in black.

937
00:45:31.750 --> 00:45:34.250
<v Speaker 3>I do anyways. Am I a vampire?

938
00:45:34.309 --> 00:45:35.050
<v Speaker 2>Oh my God.

939
00:45:35.090 --> 00:45:36.190
<v Speaker 3>And I love the nighttime.

940
00:45:36.210 --> 00:45:38.530
<v Speaker 2>Me too. Oh my God. I used to love going

941
00:45:38.550 --> 00:45:39.630
<v Speaker 2>to the beach at night.

942
00:45:40.250 --> 00:45:43.699
<v Speaker 3>Wait, I burn in the sun. I, oh my God.

943
00:45:43.780 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 3>Am I a vampire?

944
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.260
<v Speaker 2>We're vampires because I burn to a crisp. I do

945
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.300
<v Speaker 2>not tan. I turn red. I don't leave the house

946
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:52.019
<v Speaker 2>unless I have some kind of makeup on.

947
00:45:54.699 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 3>So the big question, vampire versus zombie, who would win?

948
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Um i'd say uh okay well that's kind of a

949
00:46:03.460 --> 00:46:07.909
<v Speaker 2>tough one okay so i'm gonna give the zombies they

950
00:46:08.010 --> 00:46:10.570
<v Speaker 2>there's usually a butt ton of them there's usually a

951
00:46:10.610 --> 00:46:13.590
<v Speaker 2>fuck ton of them so i don't know i think

952
00:46:13.650 --> 00:46:17.170
<v Speaker 2>even so vampires would definitely win they're smarter they're faster

953
00:46:17.769 --> 00:46:21.769
<v Speaker 2>they have supernatural powers zombies are slow they're stupid they

954
00:46:21.809 --> 00:46:25.309
<v Speaker 2>have one track mind definitely vampires would win.

955
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:27.219
<v Speaker 3>Even the high zombies?

956
00:46:28.050 --> 00:46:29.409
<v Speaker 2>High zombies? Oh, the high zombies.

957
00:46:29.429 --> 00:46:32.230
<v Speaker 3>They still have munchies. Yeah, because the vampires literally could

958
00:46:32.250 --> 00:46:34.150
<v Speaker 3>just be like, all right, I'm a bat. Like and

959
00:46:34.170 --> 00:46:35.230
<v Speaker 3>then fly up and then what?

960
00:46:35.289 --> 00:46:35.750
<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

961
00:46:35.789 --> 00:46:37.409
<v Speaker 3>By the time the zombies figure out how to climb

962
00:46:37.469 --> 00:46:39.130
<v Speaker 3>a pole, you know what I mean? They already woke

963
00:46:39.210 --> 00:46:39.699
<v Speaker 3>up from their nap.

964
00:46:39.739 --> 00:46:42.110
<v Speaker 2>Not to mention, I mean, a vampire is already dead.

965
00:46:42.340 --> 00:46:44.239
<v Speaker 2>So a zombie is not going to want to eat

966
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:45.239
<v Speaker 2>something that's already dead.

967
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

968
00:46:46.539 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Because I mean, in essence, vampires are zombies. They're just

969
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.300
<v Speaker 2>like higher up on the food chain. They look better.

970
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Better looking zombies.

971
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:54.659
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

972
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.019
<v Speaker 3>See, I think he's so Brad Pitt looks so good

973
00:46:58.039 --> 00:46:59.739
<v Speaker 3>in that. But then I think it was a Joe

974
00:46:59.820 --> 00:47:02.260
<v Speaker 3>or someone or someone told me how he's like the

975
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.920
<v Speaker 3>other actors said he stunk. during the filming like he

976
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.730
<v Speaker 3>smelled bad and that kind of taints my image a

977
00:47:07.829 --> 00:47:09.769
<v Speaker 3>little bit but I try to ignore that but it

978
00:47:09.809 --> 00:47:11.150
<v Speaker 3>always pops in my head.

979
00:47:11.010 --> 00:47:13.170
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean I still take him I

980
00:47:13.210 --> 00:47:14.309
<v Speaker 2>don't care what he smells.

981
00:47:14.090 --> 00:47:16.170
<v Speaker 3>Like nose plugs just go in I'll.

982
00:47:16.090 --> 00:47:19.829
<v Speaker 2>Just breathe through my mouth it's okay oh then you

983
00:47:19.869 --> 00:47:24.800
<v Speaker 2>can taste it it'll get in your mouth oh man

984
00:47:25.579 --> 00:47:28.019
<v Speaker 2>but you know what though on the upside if he

985
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.280
<v Speaker 2>did smell bad you can give him a bath look

986
00:47:30.300 --> 00:47:34.139
<v Speaker 2>at how caring he was I'm so caring Maybe you're

987
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:38.829
<v Speaker 2>a little ripe there. Glenn Powell would make a good vampire.

988
00:47:39.530 --> 00:47:40.889
<v Speaker 3>I know. I'm surprised he hasn't.

989
00:47:41.150 --> 00:47:43.369
<v Speaker 2>I hate him, though. He has a girlfriend now. I

990
00:47:43.389 --> 00:47:43.929
<v Speaker 2>don't like her.

991
00:47:44.289 --> 00:47:46.820
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's just a beard for when he's waiting to

992
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 3>get with you.

993
00:47:47.340 --> 00:47:49.219
<v Speaker 2>That's what it is. That's what it is. Because this bitch,

994
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>she's like, he's tickling 40. And he's with some chick

995
00:47:53.500 --> 00:47:57.619
<v Speaker 2>that's like 20-something years old. Motherfucker.

996
00:47:58.130 --> 00:48:00.110
<v Speaker 3>Like we could have had, don't be that guy. Glenn,

997
00:48:00.250 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 3>don't be that guy. Don't do it.

998
00:48:02.489 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, he still looks very youthful. He's still very,

999
00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, like he loves to party and, you know,

1000
00:48:07.780 --> 00:48:10.110
<v Speaker 2>seeing him on Instagram, you know, he loves to party.

1001
00:48:10.849 --> 00:48:13.230
<v Speaker 2>He's still, you know, very college mentality.

1002
00:48:13.250 --> 00:48:13.329
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1003
00:48:14.190 --> 00:48:16.210
<v Speaker 2>But, you know, sooner or later, that's going to catch

1004
00:48:16.289 --> 00:48:19.090
<v Speaker 2>up to him. And no, they have nothing in common. Nothing.

1005
00:48:19.489 --> 00:48:20.769
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just waiting for it to figure out.

1006
00:48:20.789 --> 00:48:23.139
<v Speaker 3>So email Daisy at.

1007
00:48:23.530 --> 00:48:27.380
<v Speaker 2>Like iloveglenn.com. I would love to do an interview with him.

1008
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. That's reaching. My brother, he's more of

1009
00:48:31.059 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the one to do interviews with producers and, you know,

1010
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and everything. And he told me, he's like, you should

1011
00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:39.260
<v Speaker 2>do that. I'm not down for that, but... If Glen

1012
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:43.059
<v Speaker 2>Paul would just say, Daisy, let's do this. I'm fucking there, dude.

1013
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:44.539
<v Speaker 2>I am still there.

1014
00:48:44.579 --> 00:48:47.079
<v Speaker 3>You'll be like, first question. You'll be like, how you doing?

1015
00:48:47.099 --> 00:48:49.280
<v Speaker 3>What are you doing?

1016
00:48:49.300 --> 00:48:51.090
<v Speaker 2>What side do you like to sleep on?

1017
00:48:51.110 --> 00:48:52.250
<v Speaker 3>Just be fangirling.

1018
00:48:52.469 --> 00:48:53.550
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

1019
00:48:54.289 --> 00:48:56.230
<v Speaker 3>Boxers or briefs? I hope.

1020
00:48:56.590 --> 00:48:59.489
<v Speaker 2>You know what? I see him as a boxers guy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1021
00:48:59.809 --> 00:49:02.090
<v Speaker 3>There's not very many brief guys out there. There's some,

1022
00:49:02.130 --> 00:49:02.849
<v Speaker 3>but not many.

1023
00:49:03.429 --> 00:49:04.190
<v Speaker 2>That's just gross.

1024
00:49:04.269 --> 00:49:06.530
<v Speaker 3>I feel like boxer briefs or boxers are kind of

1025
00:49:06.550 --> 00:49:07.110
<v Speaker 3>like the majority.

1026
00:49:07.659 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll do boxer briefs, you know, the little snug ones.

1027
00:49:10.739 --> 00:49:15.269
<v Speaker 2>That's fine, you know, but those ugly, tighty-whities, that's it.

1028
00:49:15.429 --> 00:49:16.969
<v Speaker 2>But I was probably like that with New Kids on

1029
00:49:16.989 --> 00:49:17.329
<v Speaker 2>the Block.

1030
00:49:17.909 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, Jordan what jordan i loved him you

1031
00:49:23.219 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 3>know i love jordan and uh and joey I thought

1032
00:49:27.219 --> 00:49:29.500
<v Speaker 3>they were so good. Joey was too short, but yeah.

1033
00:49:29.900 --> 00:49:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Going back to the accents, I loved their Boston accent. Oh,

1034
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:40.900
<v Speaker 2>my God. So freaking cute. My walls were completely covered

1035
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 2>in magazine pages.

1036
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:46.960
<v Speaker 3>What is it? Teen Bop and all those.

1037
00:49:47.019 --> 00:49:47.619
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

1038
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:49.260
<v Speaker 2>Bop and Big Bop. Yes.

1039
00:49:49.500 --> 00:49:52.010
<v Speaker 3>And I had the bedspread, too. I did, too.

1040
00:49:52.300 --> 00:49:54.929
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. My family from Puerto Rico loved. They

1041
00:49:54.969 --> 00:49:57.929
<v Speaker 2>sent me a birthday present one year. And I remember

1042
00:49:57.949 --> 00:50:00.030
<v Speaker 2>they called me in the morning, sent me happy birthday.

1043
00:50:00.309 --> 00:50:02.309
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, mail should be coming soon. So call

1044
00:50:02.349 --> 00:50:04.909
<v Speaker 2>us when you get it. Big old puffy thing comes

1045
00:50:04.949 --> 00:50:08.110
<v Speaker 2>into the mail when I opened it up. Oh my God.

1046
00:50:08.389 --> 00:50:10.969
<v Speaker 2>I slept with that to the very end. Oh my God.

1047
00:50:10.989 --> 00:50:11.929
<v Speaker 2>I love that red spread.

1048
00:50:12.090 --> 00:50:13.610
<v Speaker 3>Mine too. I don't even know what happened to mine.

1049
00:50:13.630 --> 00:50:14.650
<v Speaker 3>I know it was falling apart.

1050
00:50:14.670 --> 00:50:15.309
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mine's those too.

1051
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.380
<v Speaker 3>I probably got thrown away or something, but I wish

1052
00:50:17.409 --> 00:50:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I still had it.

1053
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<v Speaker 2>I think mice got to mine. You know what I

1054
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:20.920
<v Speaker 2>still have? What?

1055
00:50:21.059 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I have.

1056
00:50:24.539 --> 00:50:25.980
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just two of them that I have now.

1057
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:31.570
<v Speaker 2>Jordan and Donnie and the Barbie-sized dolls. You remember those?

1058
00:50:32.590 --> 00:50:34.809
<v Speaker 3>Why don't you have those out? I don't know where

1059
00:50:34.869 --> 00:50:35.309
<v Speaker 3>they're at.

1060
00:50:36.710 --> 00:50:38.869
<v Speaker 2>They're packed away somewhere. I need to go through my

1061
00:50:38.909 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 2>boxes when I moved out here. But yeah, I have Donnie.

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00:50:41.780 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 2>He's wearing a white jacket that has like a British

1063
00:50:45.619 --> 00:50:49.119
<v Speaker 2>logo on it. And it actually has, on his back,

1064
00:50:49.139 --> 00:50:52.050
<v Speaker 2>it has the duck tail. The long tail.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 3>The rat's tail or whatever.

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00:50:54.940 --> 00:50:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Same thing with Jordan. Jordan has his, it's a

1069
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:01.780
<v Speaker 2>black outfit with red and he's wearing red socks with

1070
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.550
<v Speaker 2>it and has a little microphone and everything. It's so

1071
00:51:04.570 --> 00:51:06.429
<v Speaker 2>freaking cute. Yeah.

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00:51:06.550 --> 00:51:08.949
<v Speaker 3>I love him so much. He was like, yeah, I loved,

1073
00:51:08.989 --> 00:51:09.349
<v Speaker 3>loved him.

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00:51:09.369 --> 00:51:10.309
<v Speaker 2>He still looks good.

1075
00:51:10.329 --> 00:51:12.110
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he does.

1076
00:51:12.409 --> 00:51:13.230
<v Speaker 2>He looks really good.

1077
00:51:13.849 --> 00:51:15.730
<v Speaker 3>But you know what makes him sexier is he's still

1078
00:51:15.769 --> 00:51:19.030
<v Speaker 3>into his wife and his wife is age appropriate. And

1079
00:51:19.070 --> 00:51:21.110
<v Speaker 3>doesn't that make a guy just like so much more?

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00:51:21.869 --> 00:51:23.469
<v Speaker 3>You know, seriously, you know what?

1081
00:51:23.550 --> 00:51:27.650
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to lie. If Glimpo had gone with

1082
00:51:27.670 --> 00:51:31.360
<v Speaker 2>somebody age appropriate and maybe a brunette, because I don't

1083
00:51:31.380 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>know why blondes, it just kind of irks me.

1084
00:51:35.820 --> 00:51:37.820
<v Speaker 3>I go blonde sometimes when I have the mood. I

1085
00:51:37.860 --> 00:51:39.190
<v Speaker 3>just dye my whole hair, bleach it off.

1086
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:40.900
<v Speaker 2>You know what? My hair used to be so blonde

1087
00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:42.619
<v Speaker 2>and it got darker as I got older.

1088
00:51:42.860 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 3>My hair used to be bright red. Now it's like brown.

1089
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:46.460
<v Speaker 2>Oh, shit. Like an auburn?

1090
00:51:46.619 --> 00:51:48.940
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like a... You can't tell because I had

1091
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.320
<v Speaker 3>the lights in here and my cat... bit the cord

1092
00:51:51.340 --> 00:51:52.869
<v Speaker 3>so now it's only green oh.

1093
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:56.449
<v Speaker 2>Shit how did she not like get electrocuted I.

1094
00:51:56.449 --> 00:51:59.389
<v Speaker 3>Don't know no it's one of the LED things but

1095
00:51:59.429 --> 00:52:01.769
<v Speaker 3>now this doesn't work so I can't change the light

1096
00:52:01.989 --> 00:52:03.369
<v Speaker 3>so now it's just green.

1097
00:52:03.130 --> 00:52:04.809
<v Speaker 2>I've been wanting to do that to my room I've

1098
00:52:04.829 --> 00:52:07.530
<v Speaker 2>been wanting to put like you know little lights in my.

1099
00:52:07.449 --> 00:52:09.690
<v Speaker 3>Room don't let a cat in there yeah no.

1100
00:52:09.630 --> 00:52:11.670
<v Speaker 2>Shit my cat's stupid she wouldn't do that.

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00:52:12.050 --> 00:52:14.909
<v Speaker 3>Well thank you so much Daisy for coming on thank.

1102
00:52:14.690 --> 00:52:16.949
<v Speaker 2>You so much for having me it's a blast as

1103
00:52:17.010 --> 00:52:18.760
<v Speaker 2>always thanks for having me on.

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00:52:21.190 --> 00:52:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, absolutely, and it's going to happen again, so get

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00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:24.170
<v Speaker 3>ready for it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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