1 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,519 Speaker 1: And we're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. 2 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:24,640 I'm Matt Kittle, senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist, and 3 00:00:24,719 --> 00:00:29,719 your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. As always, 4 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,600 you can email the show at radio at the Federalist 5 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:37,479 dot com, follow us on x at FDR LST, make 6 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,479 sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and of 7 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,520 course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:48,520 Our guest today is former California Senate Majority leader Gloria Romero. 9 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,359 She is leaving the Democratic Party. She is not alone. 10 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,159 She's changing the D behind her name to an R. Gloria, 11 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,159 thank you so much much for joining us in this 12 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,679 edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. 13 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, it's good to speak with you today. 14 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: Absolutely, as I said, you are not alone in this 15 00:01:09,519 --> 00:01:12,040 exodus that is going on that's been going on for 16 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,799 the past few years, in particular in this country. I 17 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,280 think it has everything to do with top leadership and 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,640 just the way that the Democratic Party has changed. I 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,599 want to get your perspective on this, but this from 20 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:27,920 a recent story. Romero, who served as a state lawmaker 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,959 for twelve years, made the announcement during a press conference 22 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,439 recently outside the California State Capitol in Sacramento, she explained 23 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:39,879 the decision was due to a feeling of misalignment with 24 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,519 the Democratic Party. You said, at the time in this 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,560 capital behind me, I served as both Senate Democratic Caucus 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Chair and the Senate Majority Leader. Today I say goodbye, audios. 27 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:58,599 I have had enough. What was it that finally or 28 00:01:58,879 --> 00:02:02,920 was there a single moment where you said enough is enough? 29 00:02:04,439 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's been a political journey. I mean my 30 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,319 roots have been very deep blue. 31 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: Matt, just to let you know, in my household, you know, 32 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,879 FDR JFK, RFK, these were heroes to me, and so 33 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,639 I've been very actively involved. At the time that I 34 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:28,599 was a teenager, very much invested in really working class politics, 35 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,960 taking a look at how do we lift oneself out 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,159 of poverty and move forward a great belief that this 37 00:02:34,479 --> 00:02:37,879 is a land of opportunity and that education is the 38 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,960 ticket to the American dream. So fast forward with those 39 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:47,080 with that backdrop for you to understand, I think there 40 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,199 were a number of issues that finally just said you know, enough, 41 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:54,280 I've had it, I'm out of here, And most recently, 42 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,439 I think it was the decision by the party elites 43 00:02:58,479 --> 00:03:03,439 and the big donors to a centrally wipe out eradicate 44 00:03:03,719 --> 00:03:08,560 fourteen million votes from Democrats in the primary in an 45 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:13,840 already rigged primary, to essentially, I think, conduct a political 46 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,879 coup in front of the entire world and choose who 47 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,960 they wanted to be quote unquote our leader. You know, 48 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:24,960 I as a legislator in the past, I had visited 49 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:31,680 other countries. I had gone on some election monitoring commissions 50 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:36,319 and investigations, and similar to what we've seen in Banana 51 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,560 republic type governments where we call it the vivaso, where 52 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:45,479 basically the finger is pointed to who they want, the elite, 53 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,319 who they want to become the leader. That's basically what 54 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:52,400 happened is they took out Joe and put in Kamala, 55 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:54,919 and I couldn't take that. In the so called Party 56 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,879 of Democracy. That was the most immediate issue, but it 57 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:02,560 really had been lead up to it any number of 58 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:06,560 policy issues, and for me especially which I hope we 59 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,000 can talk a little bit more about, and that is 60 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,159 how I have fought for school choice. I am one 61 00:04:13,159 --> 00:04:20,680 of those Democrats who fought for school choice, charters, opportunity scholarships, vouchers, homeschooling, 62 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,839 whatever you want to call it, and all along the way, 63 00:04:24,399 --> 00:04:29,279 I was essentially condemned by my own party as being 64 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:36,600 right wing for fighting to liberate mostly poor minority kids 65 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,079 from chronically failing schools. They call me right wing, and 66 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,000 I said, no, it is the morally right thing to do. 67 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,759 Speaker 2: There's nothing right wing about it. 68 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:47,519 Speaker 4: Laurie. 69 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: You have for a long time thought the good fight 70 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,480 a quixotic fight in California, let's face it, for school choice. 71 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,079 And I do want to delve into that in just 72 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:01,360 a bit. But you know, California is a state that, well, 73 00:05:01,439 --> 00:05:06,360 let's say, does not open its arms to alternative ideas, 74 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:11,759 to the institutions the government, government control cradle to grave 75 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,600 sorts of ideas. You're talking about freedom of choice when 76 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,079 it comes to parents trying to find a better way 77 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,079 for their kids, for their families, And like I said, 78 00:05:24,079 --> 00:05:25,959 we'll delve into that in just a moment, but I 79 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:28,439 wanted to get back to a point that you raised 80 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:33,759 most immediately, and that is we have a democratic party 81 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,600 in this country that is saying insisting that it is 82 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:43,959 the defender the protector of democracy against the likes of 83 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,319 Donald Trump, the likes of the Republican Party. They have 84 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,360 made that a core issue of this campaign. They're the 85 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:56,439 defenders of democracy, Gloria. Yet as you mentioned, they had 86 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,519 a rig system. What many have described does and I 87 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,319 think rightly so, a softer, silent coup against the current 88 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:08,680 president of the United States, who did indeed want to 89 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:13,120 run for a second term, was the nominee. But beyond that, 90 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:19,360 you have a party that has gone after unconstitutionally Donald 91 00:06:19,439 --> 00:06:23,079 Trump and trying to remove him from the ballot disenfranchise 92 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:29,000 millions more Americans in the primary system. How does the 93 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,759 Democratic Party in this country stand by the position that 94 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:37,519 it is the defender of democracy when there are myriaded 95 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,040 examples of the Democrats in this country trying to thwart 96 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,279 this representative style democracy. 97 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:49,439 Speaker 3: The sad truth is is it can no longer say that, 98 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:53,199 And that is really, I think a very sad point 99 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,920 and a major issue why I decided to leave. You know, 100 00:06:56,079 --> 00:06:59,319 I was on the executive board of the Southern California 101 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,519 Americans of a Liberties Union. Today the ACLU is missing 102 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,680 in action. We have seen the march toward authoritarianism, the silencing, 103 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,480 the censorship of those any of us who basically have 104 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,360 challenged or will think outside of the box of the 105 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:24,839 Democratic Party. We've all read nineteen eighty four. It is 106 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:28,839 alive today in twenty twenty four. And you know, when 107 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,959 I saw the lawfair that was beginning to be exercised 108 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,920 against Donald Trump. And that was still when I had 109 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,160 a d after my name, but I was still very 110 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,279 disturbed by what I. 111 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: Was seeing happening. 112 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:44,439 Speaker 3: I went online and I contributed to his campaign because 113 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,480 I said, as somebody who has been in the ACLU 114 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,040 who recognizes lawfair, I was the head. I was the 115 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,680 chair of the Public Safety Committee of the California State Senate, 116 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,519 and I was looking for always fairness under the law, 117 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:02,519 irrespective of one's politics or race, or greed or color. 118 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,600 And this was just so blatantly wrong. I began to 119 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:09,639 make campaign contributions to him as a Democrat back then, 120 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,399 just saying, I hope this sends a message that nobody 121 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:17,519 in America should tolerate this, Nobody who believes and talks 122 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,199 about being the party of democracy should tolerate this. 123 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,639 Speaker 2: And yet even when I finally left. 124 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: The Democratic Party was still jumping up and down and saying, well, 125 00:08:29,279 --> 00:08:31,800 you get to call him a felon and blah blah blah. Yeah, 126 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:34,879 a felon in your rigged system of justice, and I 127 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:36,039 couldn't take it anymore. 128 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,399 Speaker 1: Now you have served in California politics for a long time, 129 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,000 again with a D behind your name. I ask you 130 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:48,120 this two questions because I really want to get your 131 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,840 sense of where you believe things stand in what has 132 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:58,840 turned out to be a leftist, afar left Democratic party 133 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,080 in this country. I don't think there's getting denying that. A. 134 00:09:02,399 --> 00:09:06,679 Do you believe that Joe Biden is still the President 135 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,919 of the United States? Because he seems to be on 136 00:09:10,039 --> 00:09:12,879 vacation a lot and doesn't seem to be in the 137 00:09:12,919 --> 00:09:16,080 public very much, and never was too much in the 138 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,200 public eye, it seemed before, in terms of press conferences 139 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,440 and those sorts of things. Also, you've I would assume, 140 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,399 I don't want to assume. But have you met Kamala 141 00:09:27,399 --> 00:09:31,080 Harris and what do you think of her as the 142 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,639 new standard bearer of the Democratic Party? 143 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 3: Right, I think there's no doubt that Biden is the 144 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,559 president of the United States entitle only it is clear 145 00:09:44,639 --> 00:09:50,399 to me that this is a cabal basically that has 146 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,759 been running Joe Biden publicly and then hiding him from 147 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:57,320 the very beginning in the basement in Delaware when he 148 00:09:57,399 --> 00:10:01,440 was running in twenty twenty, and Kamala Harris is the 149 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,200 newly installed puppet. You know, I was for your listeners 150 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:12,080 to understand, I was a convention delegate for both Jesse 151 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,399 Jackson and for Barack Obama both times. I was the 152 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,200 California co chair for Barack Obama for his re election committee. 153 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,039 And I was one of the earliest Democrats Latinas especially 154 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,279 to have come out publicly and supported then Senator Obama 155 00:10:29,399 --> 00:10:32,759 mostly on his issue of school choice, his support for 156 00:10:32,919 --> 00:10:36,480 charter schools, and unlike Hillary Clinton, he wasn't tied at 157 00:10:36,519 --> 00:10:40,159 the hip to the Teachers' Union. Having said that, it 158 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,919 pains me to say that, I did begin to believe 159 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,679 that it really was as they say, you know, the 160 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,840 third term of Barack Obama, what we saw happening in Washington, 161 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:53,639 d C. Under Joe Biden, and it would be the 162 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,960 fourth term of Barack Obama if Kamala Harris were to 163 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,440 be installed. And I do not support or accept that, 164 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:03,120 and I think there needs to be change. So Joe 165 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,200 Biden is there in name only. It's clearly shown to 166 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:11,480 the world he has dementia, he's not functioning, He's being handled, 167 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,600 and Kamala Harrish should explain why she She must have 168 00:11:16,799 --> 00:11:20,039 seen this on a daily basis and allowed it to 169 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,039 go forward so she could come in, I believe, under 170 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,840 his co tails in the election and then assume office. 171 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,759 As to her, I have met her. She did interact 172 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:33,000 I think on one or two occasions with the Public 173 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:34,000 Safety Committee. 174 00:11:34,279 --> 00:11:38,799 Speaker 2: At that time, she was trying to have us lock up. 175 00:11:38,919 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: Mostly poor and minority mothers, mostly who weren't sending their 176 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:48,440 children to school, so they were being called truant. But 177 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,039 mind you, these were kids who were going to chronically 178 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,320 failing schools in California, so her quote unquote tough on 179 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:03,320 crime prosecutorial skills were being used to target these mothers 180 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:09,600 who were themselves dealing with the impacts of generational poverty 181 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:14,720 brought about in part by a crappy, failing education system 182 00:12:14,759 --> 00:12:17,799 that worked for the teachers' union elites but not for 183 00:12:17,879 --> 00:12:21,480 the kids themselves. So I did meet with her. We 184 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,039 also again to interact it a couple of times on 185 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:28,919 the first and probably second Obama campaign again too. 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Do you believe that they are running in 223 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:50,080 political peril of doing the same this time around? Have 224 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,879 things change since well the last election? 225 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,039 Speaker 3: I suppose I believe that things have significantly changed, and 226 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,120 there's a reason for this. In part, I believe this 227 00:15:02,159 --> 00:15:05,360 is to Trump's credit because I think it is a 228 00:15:05,559 --> 00:15:09,840 different Republican Party. This is a you know, the blue 229 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:15,519 collar billionaire businessman who has interacted and reached out with 230 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:21,879 people of all backgrounds, persuasions. Overall, I think he has 231 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:28,279 in a newly created, invented, worked on Republican Party, really 232 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,240 has shifted the party. And this is one of the 233 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:34,879 reasons why I gravitated towards it. The Republican Party today 234 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:39,159 under Trump has become the new party that represents working 235 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,759 class interests, Los de avajo, those from below, the more 236 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,919 poor people. The Democratic Party has completely capitulated to the 237 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:53,559 highly college educated, the Hollywood and coastal elite. As I said, 238 00:15:53,639 --> 00:15:56,639 as Robert F. Kennedy Junior said, when he walked away, 239 00:15:57,159 --> 00:15:59,960 we don't recognize this party anymore. And to some ex 240 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,960 ex we really didn't leave the party. The party left us. 241 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,080 It's what is this? 242 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: We don't recognize it anymore. 243 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:11,399 Speaker 3: So I think that with Latinos, I think there was 244 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,960 a real miscalculation from the Democrats to assume that if 245 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,840 they threw the borders open and just completely made a 246 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,960 mockery of what citizenship even means somehow, that they would 247 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,080 win the Latino vote. And nothing could be farther from 248 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,480 the truth. I think I and probably most Latinos want 249 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:38,480 a fair immigration system in place. We do want pathways 250 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:43,679 to citizenship, but we respect citizenship. We recognize the importance 251 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,000 of a border in defining a nation, and we want 252 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,159 to have fairness and the process. And the impacts of 253 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,919 this mockery of citizenship and the flinging open of the 254 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,519 border by the failed Border Czar Kamala Harris, it really 255 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:04,559 impacts us because this is where we've seen in Latino communities, 256 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,440 in the African American communities of Chicago and others that 257 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:12,200 we've seen on X going viral. This is where the 258 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,079 impacts are being felt. I always think what became a 259 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,599 turning point is when just what it was, a small 260 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,960 planeload of migrants were sent to Martha's vineyard to rest 261 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,759 among people, and how quickly they got rid of them. 262 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,400 But yet, I mean, when we take a look at 263 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,440 that Ohio town that just recently we've learned that there 264 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,119 were twenty thousand Haitians that were dropped into one county 265 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:42,440 in Ohio. That's major impacts on housing, on jobs, on crime, 266 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:47,000 on education, everything, And it's a real I think it 267 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:53,599 just shows the disdain and the disrespect for communities that 268 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:57,680 need help, and yet we're just told sit down, shut up, 269 00:17:57,799 --> 00:17:59,240 take it, and don't say anything. 270 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,559 Speaker 1: Our guest today is former California Senate Majority Leader Gloria Romero. 271 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,559 She is leaving the Democratic Party. She again is not alone. 272 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:15,160 Think of RFK Junior, think of Tulci Gabbard, think of 273 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,759 so many others. In the last few years, As Miss 274 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,960 Romero has I think poetically put it, we didn't leave 275 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,279 this party. The party has left us. And I hear 276 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,759 that from a number of former Democrats now independents or 277 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:36,400 Republicans in a number of cases. As well as to 278 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,079 the border, we have seen over the last three and 279 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,680 a half plus years in this country that the border 280 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:51,480 now extends into places like central and southern Ohio and 281 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:57,680 into Madison, Wisconsin, in Chicago, Illinois, and New York, New York. 282 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:02,279 And we're all paid for that. Of course, we're paying 283 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:07,319 a hefty price in so many different ways. US Representative 284 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:12,920 Chip Roy from Texas released a report recently that details 285 00:19:13,079 --> 00:19:15,599 the impact. I want to hear from you, someone who 286 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,680 has felt the impact of the border and over the 287 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:23,119 last again three and a half plus years, the significant 288 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,559 impact of the overrun of that order in places like 289 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:34,039 San Diego, all stretches of California. What is the impact 290 00:19:34,279 --> 00:19:39,440 in your blue state as it relates to the invasion 291 00:19:39,759 --> 00:19:40,400 in America. 292 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: You know, California is a border state, although Governor Newsome 293 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,480 and then Senator Kamala Harris now Vice President, really have 294 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,160 done nothing to really address California as a border state, 295 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,839 as I had indicated. You know, I do support legal 296 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:08,880 thought out pathways to citizenship. We can even go back 297 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,200 to the example of you know, President Reagan when he 298 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:16,200 did put forth and sign an amnesty bill, but something 299 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,519 that type of legislation was done under very different circumstances 300 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:21,160 than today. 301 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: Today. There really has been just a throwing open to 302 00:20:24,079 --> 00:20:24,440 the gate. 303 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:28,079 Speaker 3: You know, I've traveled extensively pretty much around the world, 304 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,640 and I tell you, I can't just walk into a country. 305 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,480 I have to show my papers every single time. I 306 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:36,240 have to apply for a visa and carry a passport, 307 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:38,279 and if not, I'm going to be taken away. 308 00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: So I think that it was something where. 309 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: That I believe that we have to have safe rules 310 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,839 here in Los Angeles, for example, and I think throughout 311 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,440 the country we have seen and I think especially this 312 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,759 is an issue that impacts women, where women increasingly have 313 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:05,000 become the victims of brutal, horrific crimes, assaults, murder, very 314 00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:09,279 young as well, and we should not accept that. 315 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,039 Speaker 2: And it has to be tied directly to these policies 316 00:21:13,079 --> 00:21:14,920 that have occurred. So what do we do. 317 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:18,519 Speaker 3: I do believe, and I have believed, that we build 318 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:23,519 a wall. I do believe that we have to develop 319 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,240 plans for what is an acceptable type of citizenship. If 320 00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:32,680 we don't accept and honor legal immigration, then why even 321 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,240 bother with it? You know, when I was in the legislature, 322 00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:38,960 I used to always have a ceremony on Flag Day. 323 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,279 I'd always do it in June and Flag Day, and 324 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:45,440 I would welcome those who had just become new citizens 325 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:48,839 of the United States, and I would hold this flag 326 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,799 swearing event in which I would invite the new immigrants, 327 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:57,680 new citizens from the district I represented, to join me 328 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,680 in saying their first flags salute as a new citizen. 329 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:04,799 And it became it grew into a very big events 330 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:07,640 each year. It was very festive. They would have children 331 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,920 and families, balloons, flowers. You could see tears in people's eyes. 332 00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:15,480 And this was the district that I represented, was very diverse. 333 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,519 You know, we had you know, white and Asian Latino, 334 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:23,000 not as many African Americans, but it was very, very diverse, 335 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,599 and you would see across the board that these were 336 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,759 people who believed as I do, that America, despite many 337 00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:33,400 flaws that we do have to address and remedy and change, 338 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:36,920 is a land of freedom and opportunity and a land 339 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,359 that is loved. And you would see that if you 340 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,960 just eliminate this and say, you know who cares open 341 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,720 the border and let anybody come and you get away 342 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,119 with anything, what is the value? And I think that 343 00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:52,799 is a real loss for the Republic, for democracy and 344 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,839 for what this land even means. 345 00:22:56,319 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more about particularly about those 346 00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:05,359 beautiful I mean in touching, heartwarming ceremonies that you have attended, 347 00:23:05,839 --> 00:23:08,680 I've reported on and so many others have as well. 348 00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:13,759 Those are individuals who did it the right way. I 349 00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:17,200 think the vast majority of America, vast vast majority of 350 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,079 Americans appreciate that. They respect that, but they do not 351 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:29,039 respect the politics driving what we have seen over the 352 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,240 last three and a half years. It is interesting that 353 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,039 you note you are not the only Democrat to say this. 354 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,359 There are many Democrats out there feel the same way 355 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,920 former Democrats in your case, that you believe we should 356 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,640 build a border, excuse me, a wall at the border, 357 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:52,359 just as President Donald Trump has said for many, many years. 358 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,880 But you know who also now supports you, Gloria Kamala Harris. 359 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, up, I mean again too. 360 00:24:01,599 --> 00:24:03,839 Speaker 3: I mean, not only did she cut and paste from 361 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,880 Joe Biden so much for her being the change agent, 362 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,799 but yeah, exactly Suddenly you know, when it's convenient, when 363 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:16,279 it's important, when she recognizes that the overwhelming numbers of 364 00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:22,119 Americans across all stripes support legal immigration and the building 365 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,279 of a border wall, she comes out in favor of this. 366 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:30,119 But you're right, and before her, like I said, Barack Obama, 367 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,400 I mean, this was not it was not unheard of. 368 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:37,599 There's nothing racist about saying we want to have a 369 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,039 border wall and a process, a legal process by Gloria. 370 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,559 Speaker 1: But Gloria, the old Kamala Harris, not the new and improved, 371 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,359 the reinvented Kamala Harris has said that those are the 372 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,960 sorts of xenophobic, racist, sorts of things that Donald Trump 373 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,599 has brought and divided this nation up until, of course, 374 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,839 the time she became the candidate for presidents. So what 375 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:04,279 gives Do you think she's had a real change of 376 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:07,240 heart here or is it just naked politics. 377 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:11,839 Speaker 3: I think Bernie Sanders said it best when he basically 378 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,480 outed her just a couple of days ago and said, no, 379 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:18,279 he used the term pragmatic, she's being pragmatic in order 380 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,720 to win. I would be more blunt and say, no, 381 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,519 she's lying in order to win. You know, I've seen 382 00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:28,839 a lot of politics in California and basically, sadly, sometimes 383 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,200 what people will do to survive an election. 384 00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:34,079 Speaker 2: I often laugh and say I wasn't a. 385 00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 3: Very good politician because I didn't want to play that game. 386 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:39,200 I said, look, I'm going to say what I think. 387 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,559 I'm going to do what I believe is the right thing. 388 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,839 And you pay a price for that when you go 389 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,000 up against some of the biggest political interests like the 390 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:52,400 California Teachers' Union, which represents failure and failing schools rather 391 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,799 than the kids in the schools. 392 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: So she did it. 393 00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:59,519 Speaker 3: She did it to basically, you know, read the polls 394 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:01,480 and say, oh, that program's not working. 395 00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:03,079 Speaker 2: I really do hope that the. 396 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: American people understand this, see this, look at her record 397 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,680 and if she won't speak about it. 398 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: I think it's important for us to speak about it. 399 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: Let's delve into policy, and it's been very difficult of 400 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:23,279 late to get Kamala Harris, the standard bearer for the 401 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:27,599 Democratic Party, the presidential candidate, to define what her policies 402 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,519 will actually be. Now she did most recently put out 403 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:35,960 a page of agenda items that reads more like the 404 00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:40,880 continuation of the joy Vibes pep rally that we've been 405 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,960 hearing about from the accomplish media over the last several weeks. 406 00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:48,680 But there are policy issues that we can look at 407 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,000 in terms of Kamala Harris's background, the Democratic Party's background, 408 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,079 and those policy issues, many of them have infuriated you. 409 00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:00,880 I see you were recently on Fox new was saying 410 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,519 and the story here says, spurned by her anger over 411 00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:10,039 calls to ban gas stoves, a long time California lawmaker 412 00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:13,559 has left the Democratic Party. I know that there are 413 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,519 more issues, as we've talked about, than gas stoves, but 414 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:22,319 I mean this is central to the whole massive climate 415 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,000 change cult that we have seen in this country, particularly 416 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:30,119 in the state of California, that has come to define 417 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,039 the Democratic Party. Let's talk a little bit about your 418 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:36,480 feelings on where these kinds of policies have landed the 419 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,599 Democratic Party. 420 00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,279 Speaker 3: Right, we'll go back to gas stoves, because that really 421 00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:41,839 is sort of at the end of the day. And 422 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,279 let no, I am not I cannot toast my tortella 423 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,680 and micro even it's suddenly gone like it's everywhere apparently. 424 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,200 But I think to that's would be cultural like no, 425 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,680 just we can't have it. But I think let's go 426 00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,920 back to it again too. I mean the withdrawal from Afghanistan. 427 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,079 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a child of Vietnam. 428 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: During that war, I helped a family from my hometown 429 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,599 bury their child who came back in a casket from 430 00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:16,759 the Vietnam War. He was twenty years old, Clarence Griego. 431 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,119 And I think you never forget a family's, especially a 432 00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:25,519 parents' pain at seeing their child being buried. They did 433 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:29,200 the right thing, They stood up, they gave everything. Whatever 434 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,000 one thought about the war, this child came home in 435 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,400 a casket. And we fast forward to tomorrow, September eleventh, 436 00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:39,359 we take a look at the withdrawal from Afghanistan, which 437 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,839 I believe was set up as a photo op for 438 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,599 Biden and. 439 00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:43,759 Speaker 2: Harris and the. 440 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:51,359 Speaker 3: Horrendous withdrawal and the sacrificing of thirteen American soldiers whose 441 00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:57,119 names Kamala Harris cannot say. I really hope that Donald 442 00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,680 Trump brings this up, and if he can, maybe even 443 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,720 just to mention a couple of the names, many of 444 00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:05,400 whom were from California, by the way, And so I 445 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,279 think to take a look at the international stage, I 446 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:12,240 think also as well to at foreign policy. October seventh, 447 00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,079 if we want to talk about dates, I mean, I 448 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,240 looked at Watch with horror as I saw women being abducted, 449 00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:21,160 the blood coming from you know, the assaults that were 450 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,920 taking place on them, and the abandonment of Israel is 451 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,799 a key ally. 452 00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:27,839 Speaker 2: You know, I was a university professor. 453 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: Before I was I went to the legislature, and I've 454 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,640 been at UCLA and some of our other campuses, and 455 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,720 I think, my god, how can Jewish students be threatened 456 00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:42,160 like this? Some years ago I went to Auschwitz and 457 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,720 I stepped inside that crematorium, and what's left of it 458 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,799 returned to America. And I think anybody who's ever been 459 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:53,240 there and has seen it, you cannot come home and 460 00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,440 not remember. And yet here we were at UCLA, which 461 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,759 is not, you know, just down the road from me 462 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,599 thinking what was going on and the abuse and the 463 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:07,440 threats against Jewish students. It's intolerable. So I think a 464 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,519 lot of the international issues, but I think the economy, crime, 465 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,000 the border are some of the main issues overall. And 466 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,799 of course we've seen that Kamala Harris was the deciding 467 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:26,720 vote on the legislation that locked us into just runaway inflation, 468 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:28,559 and she can run from that record. 469 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: So I think all of those are some of the 470 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:31,079 major issues. 471 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: When I was winding up my press conference and Sacramento, 472 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:36,599 somebody asked them about climate change and I said, look, 473 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,279 you know, I'm not giving up my tortillas. 474 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: You got to my guest of You're gonna have to 475 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,200 pry them. 476 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: Out of my goal and my cold dying hands to 477 00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:45,359 get that guestove away. 478 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:52,319 Speaker 4: Well, anyone reiterate how ridiculously expensive illegal immigration has become. 479 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,240 The watched out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 480 00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:58,119 Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and 481 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640 the economy and how it affects your wallet. Last year, 482 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,920 our government spent one hundred and fifty billion dollars to 483 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,519 take care of our legal immigration problem with inflation, that 484 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:09,200 number is much worse. Has that number gone up in 485 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,640 twenty twenty four. Whether it's happening in DC or down 486 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,440 on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 487 00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:14,039 Speaker 1: Be informed. 488 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 489 00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:19,160 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. 490 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: I hear you, and I think a lot of Americans here, 491 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,680 whether it be electric vehicles, evs that this administration has 492 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,400 claimed to be, you know, behind and building all kinds 493 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,599 of charging stations across the country, when it turns out 494 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,759 we've seen what half a dozen a dozen at best. 495 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,599 You know, this is part and parcel of a lot 496 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:51,400 of big government programs brought to us by the administration 497 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,279 and the party in power for the first two years 498 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:01,000 in particular of that administration's ten year and the impacts 499 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:06,000 are real, they're being felt. You mentioned inflation. You mentioned 500 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:12,160 Harris's vote, deciding vote in the Inflation Reduction Act, which 501 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,559 is probably I can't think of a bill that has 502 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:23,720 been worse named, less appropriately named, less factually named than 503 00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,960 what came out and what we're experiencing. What is life 504 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:35,200 like for your neighbors, your communities in California in particular 505 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:38,240 that you know, a lot of folks have said this, 506 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,960 and I wonder what you think about it that another 507 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:49,119 term for Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris will 508 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:56,079 be another four years of remaking the United States into 509 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,960 California in the worst ways. 510 00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. That is the path on 511 00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:05,839 which we are on. Gavin Newsom has had to confront that. 512 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,880 And mind you that Gavin Newsom is not popular in California. 513 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:14,480 Remember Kamala Harris when she ran in twenty twenty, our 514 00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:18,119 home state of California was not going to support her 515 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,519 in any way, and that's one of the main reasons 516 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:24,759 why she dropped out before getting a single vote, because 517 00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:26,720 she didn't want to be embarrassed. Well, that pretty much 518 00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:31,079 is still the same today. So I think using climate, 519 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,039 for example, as an issue is one that you know, 520 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:39,359 it's oftentimes, you know, the virtue signaling like oh, we 521 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,640 are the good guys, blah blah blah. In the meantime, 522 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:45,000 we find Kamala Harris with her lovely guest stove. As 523 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,480 we've seen from the photos she has posted on x 524 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,400 We've seen the so called environmentalists flying around the country 525 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,839 on their private jets, and so it's one where we've 526 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,119 got to take a look at it more carefully. I 527 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,119 think it's one where we find, especially some communities are 528 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:09,360 trapped by this effort to stamp out our livelihoods. My 529 00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:13,280 daughter Solidad or Sua, is the author of an article 530 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,679 along with Jennifer Hernandez that talked about what we call 531 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,559 what they called and Solidad calls the carbon economy, in 532 00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:25,400 which many communities like Latinos are especially in this economy 533 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:30,199 that will be wiped out if this sort of full 534 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,880 blown far left climate change policy goes into affect at 535 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,599 some point. And so I think there are issues that 536 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,239 we have to look at and discuss. And if we 537 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,280 had a fair impartial mainstream media, I think this would 538 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,199 be out there. Unfortunately we do not. So you know, 539 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,960 your listeners, your program. Thank god that Elon must took 540 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,639 over X, because we would be suppressed in our thought 541 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,480 without it. I think it's up to us, though, to 542 00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:01,000 really do everything we can to get the message out. 543 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,639 If you like how it's going out, it's just going 544 00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:07,800 to be intensified. If Kamala Harris wins well, I. 545 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: Can tell you this, we definitely appreciate real authentic thought 546 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,840 leaders like you, And when we say thought leaders, individuals 547 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,000 who have looked at the system that they have existed 548 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:25,159 in and questioned, I know, this isn't This isn't something 549 00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:28,440 that is new to you or new to so many 550 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,960 others in the Democratic Party in this country. There have 551 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,239 been questions for a long time. It got to a 552 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,519 tipping point whereas we talked about you said, enough is enough. 553 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,840 That's years in the making. I do appreciate that and 554 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,800 understand that. But the authentic thought is one that can 555 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,480 change a viewpoint, an opinion based on the facts. And 556 00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:54,880 the problem that we see that you just alluded to 557 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:58,559 over and over again is that Americans aren't being presented 558 00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:02,400 the full picture and certainly not the facts as we 559 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,719 see them in communities across the state of California and 560 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:13,679 this country. Speaking of individuals trapped in systems, we talked 561 00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:16,360 about it at the outset of the conversation. You have 562 00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:21,199 been a warrior for school choice in California, again, a 563 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,400 very difficult place to battle in that arena. Do you 564 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:37,519 see California ever truly embracing school choice with the existing 565 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,039 power structure in place? 566 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 3: With the existing power structure, No, it needs to change. 567 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:47,679 And let me just point out that, you know, I'm 568 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,440 the I have a PhD. I ended up chairing the 569 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,800 Senate Education Committee. My mother had a sixth grade level 570 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,199 of education, but she knew and she desired that each 571 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,400 of her children there were six of us in the family, 572 00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,719 would least graduate from high school, and all of us did. 573 00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 4: So. 574 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,159 Speaker 3: I've recognized that education is the key to the American dream, 575 00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:11,599 and I fervently have advocated for this. But what we 576 00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:16,159 have seen in California schools is really that California schools 577 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:19,320 are essentially held hostage by the powers that be the 578 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,719 most powerful political interest in California. It's not the oil company, 579 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,039 it's not pharmaceutical, it's not tobacco. It is the California 580 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,800 Teachers Association and its affiliate. That is where you find 581 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,559 the biggest gathering of the war chess that keep the 582 00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:40,840 Democratic Party tethered to them and in power. And so 583 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,519 if you want to change the system, you have to 584 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,000 confront the most powerful political player in California. And we 585 00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:53,400 are not there yet in terms of winning and securing victory. 586 00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:56,440 But the reason that's so important is, for example, in 587 00:37:56,559 --> 00:38:02,800 Kamala Harris's Oakland hometown that school district. Seventy five percent 588 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,880 of Latino and African American students do not read or 589 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,719 do math at basic level of proficiency. Seventy five percent. 590 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: That's incredible and cratyty. 591 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: And think about it. 592 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,039 Speaker 3: Remember she was trying to put the mothers of kids 593 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,840 that are deemed truant into jail, get them arrested for 594 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,760 the kids not going. But at the same time, when 595 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,119 she was Attorney General, she hitched herself to the very powerful, 596 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,199 deep pockets California Teachers Association to go to the California 597 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,440 Supreme Court to overturn a significant victory that was won 598 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,440 and upheld by a lower court. And it was brought 599 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,599 about by mostly working class of kids and families, many 600 00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:55,440 of them minority, who basically brought forth a challenge to 601 00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:59,719 the distribution, the training, the tenure of teachers, and really 602 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,719 call for an end to this ineffective form of education. 603 00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:08,840 She was right there the prosecutor in her basically prosecuting 604 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,480 her case against kids getting out of failing schools. That's 605 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,159 her record and the people should know that. So will 606 00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:19,039 we change with the current structure. No, you know, some 607 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,519 years ago I actually got a bit of attention. When 608 00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:26,079 I finally said and I was still a Democrat, then 609 00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:30,480 I just said I cannot support a Democrat any longer. 610 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,480 And in the recall election, I supported Larry Elder to 611 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,599 recall Gavin Newsom and the number one issue because I 612 00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:41,960 didn't agree with Larry on many issues, I agreed with 613 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:46,800 him on school choice. He was actively speaking out about 614 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,199 the importance of education and pointing out schooling and the 615 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,400 failures of these schools in California, especially for African American kids. 616 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,119 So I supported him on that primary place alone. So 617 00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:04,360 I think it's important to change, to move forward. I 618 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,079 have happily allied myself with Steve Hilton with California No 619 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:13,920 Golden Together. We want to across the aisle, regardless of party, 620 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,000 to talk about many of these issues and schools for me, education, 621 00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:22,440 access to quality schools in whatever form. That's a key 622 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,239 issue that I've been bringing up with California Golden Together. 623 00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: I think that's so interesting. I'm so glad you brought 624 00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:33,440 up the fact that Prosecutor Kamala Harris fought tooth and 625 00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:39,119 nail for the status quo, fought tooth and nail for 626 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,159 the teachers' unions, fought tooth and nail for these public 627 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:50,960 school systems that have so let down Latino, African American 628 00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:54,159 and all students in so many different ways. A final 629 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,239 question for you, been extremely generous with your time. I 630 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,119 very much appreciate, very much enjoyed talking to you. When 631 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:08,440 November arrives, the votes are counted, who wins in your estimation, 632 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:16,639 who is going to be elected president? Who will control 633 00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:23,440 the Congress at the end of the day. And do 634 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,960 you believe that Americans are so fed up, just like 635 00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,280 you are, that there could be a repudiation of the 636 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,599 Democratic Party at the polls this November. 637 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,519 Speaker 3: Well, as I said in my announcement, I will be 638 00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:40,239 voting for Donald J. Trump for President of the United 639 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,199 States of America. I hope he will win, but as 640 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,480 we know, hope is not a strategy. We've got to 641 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,400 get out and vote. Those who show up are more 642 00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:54,239 likely to direct this and it can't be just on 643 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,760 election day. Those days are over. There is no more 644 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,440 election day. It is an election, so you know balance 645 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,800 across the country. Some of them are going out in 646 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,400 a few days, others you know later. I really encourage 647 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,719 people to get out to vote. I'm very encouraged with 648 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,679 a reorganized new leadership of the Republican Party. Nationally, I 649 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,559 think there's been some good work on getting out the 650 00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:24,320 early vote. Ballot harvesting is real. One might not like 651 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,039 the rules, but you got to play according to the rules, 652 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,679 and I think depending on that we will see will 653 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,320 there still be cheating? Oh yes, I have no doubt 654 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,079 about it. I was always amazed as a candidate seeing 655 00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:38,559 how many names were dead and still on the voter 656 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,480 rules back then. I can imagine there are many more 657 00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,000 dead right now. So you've got to deal with that. 658 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,960 I think that with this whole mail in no signature proof, 659 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,239 which is absolute madness, I mean I need an ID card. 660 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,840 If I had been a delegate to the Democratic Convention, 661 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,000 I would have had to have shown my ID. So 662 00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:01,320 I think we have to bring that about and change it. 663 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,239 But we only will win if we get out and vote. 664 00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:09,119 Sign up to be monitors, watch that polling, Do not 665 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,960 walk away. Do not let middle of the night so 666 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:15,440 called water pipes to break in the windows to be 667 00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:16,119 tacked over. 668 00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 2: That was madness. We cannot allow that again. And if 669 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:20,800 we do. 670 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,199 Speaker 3: That, I think we're still probably going to have challenges 671 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,360 ahead of us. But I believe that America should have 672 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,880 had enough and is willing to bring back Donald Trump 673 00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:33,920 for a new term. 674 00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: Very good, all points well made. Thanks to my guest today, 675 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,480 former California Senate Majority Leader Gloria Romero, leaving the Democratic 676 00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:50,000 Party as so many others have of late. In fact, 677 00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:54,280 she is changing the D behind her name to an R. 678 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,119 As we move closer and closer to this critical election 679 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,320 for the Republic. You've been listening to another edition of 680 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,800 the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior correspondent at 681 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,199 the Federalist. You'll be back soon with more. Until then, 682 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,760 stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray. 683 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:31,519 Speaker 5: I heard the Fame Boy serison, and then it faded away.