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<v Speaker 1>Tonight, I'd like to welcome Steve Coburn. Steve is a

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<v Speaker 1>chemist and material scientist with over twenty years of industrial

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<v Speaker 1>experience and several patents for industrial processes relating to nanotechnology.

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<v Speaker 1>He is currently working in the area of carbon nanotubes

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<v Speaker 1>and working to start a nanotech company. In the UFO field,

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<v Speaker 1>he does high tech analysis of alien implants, UFO crash

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<v Speaker 1>debris and instrument scans of clients for the presence of

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<v Speaker 1>alien implants and other signs of recent contact. Steve, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. How you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Great? Great, great to be here, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have a very interesting background and you actually

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<v Speaker 1>worked with the late doctor Roger Lear. Tell us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about your background and good What got

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<v Speaker 1>you started doing this research.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doctor Leary's partner from two thousand and eight

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<v Speaker 2>to but he died in early twenty fourteen, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been interested in nanotechnology and chemistry, microstructures had

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with with that sort of thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've also been interested in the UFOs all my life,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was natural that when I got the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to work with doctor Lear, I chose to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually met doctor Lear after an object appeared in

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<v Speaker 2>my toe and I went over to him as a

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<v Speaker 2>patient and he removed it seven months later, and he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have anybody to analyze it, so I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>take it upon myself analyze the piece of the object,

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<v Speaker 2>and the result were quite remarkable. It was a sophisticated

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<v Speaker 2>nanotechnological device. And I went on to analyze several other

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<v Speaker 2>implants that he had removed from other patients that had

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<v Speaker 2>not been analyzed completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's interesting you said you had you know, UFO

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<v Speaker 1>contact or possible abduction experiences, you said earlier in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, now, and I find.

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<v Speaker 1>It interesting that you're also a material scientist working with

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<v Speaker 1>these carbon nanotubes that could possibly also be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the technology being used in the implants you researched. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you start doing your research, you know, because of these occurrences. No.

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<v Speaker 2>I happen to be working on carbon nanotubes at my

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<v Speaker 2>old job and we worked on those for about seven years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have several patents in the carbon downitube field,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just kind of a synchronicity that it

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<v Speaker 2>turned out that the alien devices apparently utilized carbon downtube electronics.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something that we're working on in birthly science but

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<v Speaker 2>have not perfected yet. But apparently it's a old technology

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<v Speaker 2>to them, and the carbon downtube electronics would be faster

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<v Speaker 2>and more robust, and the silicon electronics that we use

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<v Speaker 2>there are three D networks of carbon. Unity was built

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<v Speaker 2>right into the metal.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently very interesting. Now, do you remember any of your

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your first contact experience. How old were you and

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<v Speaker 1>could you tell us a little bit about it.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing I remember was was seeing a UFO

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<v Speaker 2>hovering over my parents' house when I was five years old,

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<v Speaker 2>like a fairly small scout craft, maybe fifty feet in diameter,

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<v Speaker 2>hovering right a bread at rooftop level. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>maybe four o'clock in the morning, before sunrise. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I blocked out and woke up like four hours later

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<v Speaker 2>with blood all down in front of me and remembered

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<v Speaker 2>somebody putting something up my nose. And Willie Streeber described

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<v Speaker 2>a similar experience in the book Communion, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's standard procedure for abductees to have an implant put

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<v Speaker 2>in at that age.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very interesting. Now, do you have any other memories

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<v Speaker 1>of any experiences after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remembered a few things spontaneously and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more under hypnotic regression after I found out for sure

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<v Speaker 2>that this was going on, after I met doctor Lear.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a lot of really strange stuff. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's no wonder that that people are having trouble believing

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<v Speaker 2>in all this because it's completely counter what we're taught

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<v Speaker 2>in school about. You know, aliens can't possibly be coming here,

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<v Speaker 2>it's too far away and all that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and apparently they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Were your experiences, would you say a positive nature or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think they had possibly malevolent purposes?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say my experiences have been malevolent or or

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<v Speaker 2>or completely negative. But there's like a lots of control

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<v Speaker 2>and inherent in it because they use they do what

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<v Speaker 2>they do what they want with you, as if you're

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<v Speaker 2>an experimental animal, and they they use mind control, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just it just introduces a strange feeling of a

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<v Speaker 2>loss of control that's really disturbing. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>have commented on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any memories of being taken on a craft?

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<v Speaker 2>H yeah, most of them have recovered under regression, but

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I've got some memories of being on board,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, my memories are pretty pretty similar to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other abductee reports, especially I really related to

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<v Speaker 2>Katherina Wilson's book I Forgot What I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>remember and Alien Jigsaw, if readers or listeners want to

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<v Speaker 2>read those, that pretty much sums up a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>my experiences too. Of mine were very similar to hers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, do you know what types of beings that you

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<v Speaker 1>were interacting with?

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<v Speaker 2>The standard grays that most people report as the ones

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<v Speaker 2>i've are the ones I've mostly seen, but I remembered

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<v Speaker 2>under regression seeing some tan grays on board an alien

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<v Speaker 2>mother at one point the ones that were on Willie

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<v Speaker 2>Streemer's book cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get back to your first end plant. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell us about that experience, how that came about?

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<v Speaker 1>First actual removement?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I well, how it was put in is I

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<v Speaker 2>was at my house watering the plants and taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of the place after work. My wife was at her

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<v Speaker 2>parents' house after my daughter was born, and she'd was

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<v Speaker 2>staying there for a while to have her mom help

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<v Speaker 2>her out with the baby, and I called her up

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<v Speaker 2>until her I was going to spend the night at

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<v Speaker 2>the house because I was getting tired, and I heard

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<v Speaker 2>some noises in the backyard. Went out in the backyard

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<v Speaker 2>and there were these two huge raccoons out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>one was about fifty pounds. Every one was about seventy pounds,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't even know they got that big, so

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<v Speaker 2>that was pretty surprising, and I it seemed fairly tame.

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<v Speaker 2>So I put some food out there for them so

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't need our avocados, and they were in our

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<v Speaker 2>avocado tree. And I watched the animals for a while

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<v Speaker 2>and then went in and went to bed. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up, there has been a lot of strange

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<v Speaker 2>stuff going on prior to that, and when I woke up,

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<v Speaker 2>I just realized that the aliens had been there. And

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<v Speaker 2>I had a pain in the side of my head

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<v Speaker 2>and a stinging pain in my left second toe, and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at my toe. There are two puncture wounds

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<v Speaker 2>there that disappeared within a few hours, and the two

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<v Speaker 2>puncture wounds lit up green under ultraviolet light, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the stinging pain got worse and became an electric shock

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<v Speaker 2>type pain that went all about all the way up

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<v Speaker 2>my leg. About four days after the incident, every time

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<v Speaker 2>I put some weight on that toe, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>went over to see doctor Lear and I told him

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<v Speaker 2>that to possibly alien implant.

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<v Speaker 1>And how did you How did you get into contact

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<v Speaker 1>with the doctor Lear?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was a synchronicity too. He worked only a

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<v Speaker 2>few blocks from where I worked in Camrio, California, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had been following his research for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Then all of a sudden, got an implant myself and

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<v Speaker 2>decided to go over and see him. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he believed me at first, but he gave me

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<v Speaker 2>a prescription to you to get the toe x ray.

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<v Speaker 2>And the prescription said give a copy of the patient.

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<v Speaker 2>So they gave me a copy of this X ray

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew intuitively I was going to see something,

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<v Speaker 2>but when I did, it would just that blew me away.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a heck of a difference between, like

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<v Speaker 2>I always said, there's a heck of a difference between

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<v Speaker 2>strongly suspecting that something like this occurs and knowing for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>The object looked like a bent piece of wire in

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<v Speaker 2>my toe, and it was actually the image on the

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<v Speaker 2>extra was actually smaller then it turned out to be

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<v Speaker 2>in real life, which was strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting now, how did the removal process go.

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<v Speaker 2>It went pretty well, it turned out, but the object

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<v Speaker 2>was brittle and it broke into twelve pieces on removal.

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<v Speaker 2>They instead of cutting it out, they tried to go

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<v Speaker 2>in through the side of the toe and pull it out,

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<v Speaker 2>and the object was brittle and broken to several pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>But that turned out to be a good thing because

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<v Speaker 2>it gave us some views of the interior without us

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<v Speaker 2>having to cut the object up. And one weird thing

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<v Speaker 2>is that all the pieces arranged themselves in their original

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<v Speaker 2>order when doctor Lear had a stored in blood serum.

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<v Speaker 2>That was really remarkable. We've got pictures of that. And

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<v Speaker 2>he gave me two pieces of the object to run

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<v Speaker 2>a series of tests on. I did light my cross

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<v Speaker 2>could be scanning, electronic cross could be and ed X

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<v Speaker 2>BOLK elemental analysis UH and ic PMS trace element analysis.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 2>We did. We did the magnetic testing and Geiger counter

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<v Speaker 2>testing and turn it was highly magnetic. That was one

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<v Speaker 2>thing we'd noticed that before we removed the object from

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<v Speaker 2>my body, it was at about a ten mila magnetic field,

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<v Speaker 2>and our associate, doctor Kuons thought that the magnetic field

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<v Speaker 2>may have may have had to do with its power source.

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<v Speaker 2>He thought that it was powered by zero point energy

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<v Speaker 2>by the interaction between some phone on mode in the

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<v Speaker 2>metal and the magnetic field. Another an usual thing about

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<v Speaker 2>the object of the metallic portion was made of meteoric

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<v Speaker 2>iron that the trace element pattern and it exactly matched wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly matched a group of nickelairon meteorites called hexahed rites.

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<v Speaker 2>And it produced no Like all the other implants the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Leer researched, it produced no. No inflammation in my

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<v Speaker 2>toe or nearly A foreign body will always produce inflammation

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<v Speaker 2>in the human body. So that's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard instances of the the nerves actually growing around

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<v Speaker 1>these objects.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right, there were, there were There are appropriate

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<v Speaker 2>sceptor nerves growing into these objects from in every case

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<v Speaker 2>that we've seen, including the implant in my toe. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's their connection to the nervous system. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>how they gather information apparently and also perhaps transmit information

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<v Speaker 2>to the body. And h there's some chemical cue to

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<v Speaker 2>cause the nerve cells to grow into them. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the pain that was expert ancing in my

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<v Speaker 2>toe was probably the nerve cells growing into the device.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, there's no immune response to the object.

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<v Speaker 2>Either, no, none whatsoever. It was highly unusual, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's been repeated like seventeen times now. None of them

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<v Speaker 2>had any any immune response whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you know the what the purposes of these

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<v Speaker 1>devices would be other than cracking?

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<v Speaker 2>Not for sure. We have we have abductee reports on

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<v Speaker 2>what the aliens say there for, and we have some

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<v Speaker 2>educated speculation on what they're for. But I'll just run

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<v Speaker 2>run that value, and you know, we may find out

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<v Speaker 2>that they do other things too. But logically they must

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<v Speaker 2>they must be tracking devices, but a lot of them

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<v Speaker 2>are probably not primarily tracking devices, And the ones in

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<v Speaker 2>the extremities, like the ones in the toe or the

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<v Speaker 2>the wrist, the leg, or probably are are mainly physiological

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<v Speaker 2>monitoring devices to measure all kinds of physiological parameters like

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<v Speaker 2>blood sugar, blood oxygen, uh of hormone levels, that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. And we have reason to believe from what

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<v Speaker 2>people have told us that that they can. Most of

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<v Speaker 2>the devices can be used to implant suggestions that are

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<v Speaker 2>hard to ignore because the subject always thinks it's their idea.

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<v Speaker 2>And doctor Kons thought that some of them could be

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<v Speaker 2>used as room bugs could pick up airborne sounds and

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<v Speaker 2>they transmit radio waves, but they're not always on, but

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<v Speaker 2>they sometimes they're transmitting, and so they're they're definitely transmitting

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<v Speaker 2>that information back to the people that put them.

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<v Speaker 1>In the most. I guess what areas of the body

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<v Speaker 1>are they mostly found in.

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<v Speaker 2>They're mostly found in the extremities in the head. There's

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<v Speaker 2>typically on somebody that's got a lot of alien activity,

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<v Speaker 2>there's typically one one above each year, a tiny one

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<v Speaker 2>above each year below the scalp and above the skull,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh one at the back of the neck, and

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<v Speaker 2>the t three vertebrae, and a brain implant. The brain

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<v Speaker 2>implants are hard to detect because they're they're made of

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<v Speaker 2>a conductive polymer. I actually analyze one of those two

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<v Speaker 2>that that fell out of somebody's nose, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because the alien the aliens told somebody that that

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<v Speaker 2>they were made of a conductive polymer, and and that

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<v Speaker 2>indeed was what the one I analyzed was made out of.

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<v Speaker 2>And they grow or said they grow tendrils throughout the brain,

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<v Speaker 2>and those implants can enable the aliens, according to what

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<v Speaker 2>they've said, to hear and see what the subject is

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<v Speaker 2>hearing and seeing in real time, and probably also hear

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<v Speaker 2>what they're thinking, and so that's getting that implant is

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<v Speaker 2>like connecting the person of the alien high of mind.

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<v Speaker 2>They're kind of a high of mind species, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the borer, gun star trek. You have seen them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And am I right in saying that some of

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<v Speaker 1>these have actually moved? When Trump been when yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking, I was speaking of this the state

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<v Speaker 2>of the station. All the ones that we've analyzed right now,

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<v Speaker 2>so far i've been up to now been stationary ones.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are moving ones too. We've never had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to analyze ones. We can't get them out, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're more rare than the stationary ones at any rate.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've had I've had contact with people say that

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<v Speaker 2>they have moving ones. And Whilly streamer out a moving

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<v Speaker 2>one in his ear. I think he still has it,

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<v Speaker 2>and doctor here I was going to take it out,

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<v Speaker 2>but he changed his mind at the last minute. Really

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<v Speaker 2>did that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is now? You said they emit radio signals?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Yeah, about ten percent of the time they're active

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<v Speaker 2>emitting radio signals. That's all of the implants that we

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<v Speaker 2>know of, including the movie ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Out.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie ones. The movie ones are probably also made

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<v Speaker 2>of a conductive polymer and they have these like ccilia

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<v Speaker 2>on them, like a like a microorganism would have that

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<v Speaker 2>enables them to move under the skin. And some people

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<v Speaker 2>report that it hurts quite a bit when they move.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, I can't imagine having something moving under my skin? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>How many? How many have you had removed from yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Just the one?

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<v Speaker 2>Just the one? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had any others that you know of that

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<v Speaker 1>you know may still be there?

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<v Speaker 2>I have actual evidence that at least two more. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that I think I have three or four more.

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<v Speaker 3>Would look.

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<v Speaker 2>The ones above the years I've got those. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember having a brain implant put in when I was five,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was telling you, and I think that standard

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<v Speaker 2>procedure for most abductees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when you're doing scans for these devices, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of equipment are you using?

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<v Speaker 2>The the standard scans that I use on people that

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<v Speaker 2>want to find out if they're abductees or not, or

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<v Speaker 2>a stead finder scan to scan areas of concern for implants.

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<v Speaker 2>It's are good at detecting metallic objects into the skin,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we do a gas meter scan UH for

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<v Speaker 2>the Tech Week. Magnetic fields and UH alien equipment can

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes magnetize things including human tissue. And if we get

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<v Speaker 2>a gas meter hit combined with a studfinder hit, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a high probability that's an implant. The implants are almost

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<v Speaker 2>always magnetic. And then I use I got your counter

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<v Speaker 2>to detect any trace of radiation once in a while

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<v Speaker 2>or something left behind. And and I use an ultraviolet

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<v Speaker 2>light to detect alien dyes that are left behind on

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<v Speaker 2>the body that stay up to a month, or indelible

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<v Speaker 2>dyes that are really hard to remove. And there's various

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<v Speaker 2>colors orange, green, yellow, green, and blue, and uh there

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<v Speaker 2>they shine very strongly under short wavev illumination. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>a that's a dead giveaway. If if I see those,

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<v Speaker 2>I know the person's been been taken within the last month.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they want to have this remove? Do you do

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<v Speaker 1>you refer them to a to someone to have them removed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've just been telling I don't have a doctor

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<v Speaker 2>working with me at this point in time, But I

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<v Speaker 2>just I just tell people to go to their GP

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<v Speaker 2>and say they have a foreign object that's bothering them

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<v Speaker 2>and try to get it removed. Insurance should cover it. Theoretically,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I can do at the moment. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to find a doctor who will come forward and

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<v Speaker 2>helped me with this research.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you analyzed them any recently? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not recently. The last The last stuff I analyzed

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<v Speaker 2>was actually some crish debris from a UFO that crashed

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<v Speaker 2>in New Mexico during the roswell time period.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven kind of results came from that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I also analyzed patient seventeen's implant to reanalyze part of

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<v Speaker 2>it about like three years ago. Oh. There were mostly

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<v Speaker 2>pieces of aluminum. There was one piece of like ultrapure

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<v Speaker 2>aluminum that appeared to have some sort of a different

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<v Speaker 2>crystal structure than regular aluminum, and it was very hard

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<v Speaker 2>and would give off sparks when you when you put

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<v Speaker 2>it on a grinding wheel, which is not what aluminum

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<v Speaker 2>typically does it with act even more like titanium or

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<v Speaker 2>steel in that regard. But it was incredibly strong, and

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<v Speaker 2>that also was the case with patient sixteens implant that

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<v Speaker 2>came out of his wrist. It was a steel a

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<v Speaker 2>steel carbon anitude metal matrix composite with a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of meteoric iron in it that was incredibly strong, and

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<v Speaker 2>diamond tools would even cut it. That'sn't heard of down

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<v Speaker 2>them tools could just about anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that should Yeah, that's very fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>The other crash Debrie samples were aluminum with some strange

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<v Speaker 2>impurities in them that would not be there in earthly

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<v Speaker 2>aluminum samples. A little guranium and thorium, rare earth gallium

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<v Speaker 2>and germanium, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you think it's possible that our government or

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<v Speaker 1>military industrial complex could be doing some of these implants?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's possible. I heard a rumor not

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<v Speaker 2>too long ago actually, that the aliens had given them

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<v Speaker 2>a large quantity of their implants as part of some deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope that's not true. That'll mean that it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be impossible to tell the difference between government implants and

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<v Speaker 2>alien implants. But there's some evidence that the government and

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<v Speaker 2>the aliens are working together anyway. But up to now,

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<v Speaker 2>government implants have been distinguishable because they're usually like like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, little computer chips, like a standard computer chip

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<v Speaker 2>under the skin. But alien implants are very very small.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're buch smaller. They're like the one in my

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<v Speaker 2>toe is like like one millimeter in diameter by like

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half four millimeters long, and they're much

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<v Speaker 2>that the technology is much greater in them, much more advanced.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sorry, what was your question?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, well I was gonna ask. I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to your contact experiences and ask if

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<v Speaker 1>you remember any direct communication with any of these beings.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, yeah, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, are any messages they told you, like.

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<v Speaker 2>When they told me, when they told me what the

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<v Speaker 2>what the brand implants were for? And uh, they'll sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>answer questions like that, not always, And there they remind

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<v Speaker 2>me of a high tech foreign military and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the stuff they do is secret on their end too,

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<v Speaker 2>And questions about what is your agenda? What do you

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<v Speaker 2>plan to do at point A and point B at

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<v Speaker 2>this or that time. They won't answer questions like that,

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<v Speaker 2>or hardly ever will, but they do sometimes ask answer

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<v Speaker 2>technical questions. And let's see, I remember them telling me

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<v Speaker 2>what the what the implants are for? And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>telling me a lot of a lot of teas report

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<v Speaker 2>this that they're concerned about us screwing up the planet

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<v Speaker 2>and possibly having a war that will be disastrous, and

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<v Speaker 2>we need to change our ways and become part of

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<v Speaker 2>the galactic community, and messages like that that's pre standard.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you in your regressions or any types of memories.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have memories of interacting with any reptilian beings

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<v Speaker 1>or insectoid beings.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing some ones that look like praying maniss

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<v Speaker 2>that are like the bosses of the grays. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>see them very often, but I remember seeing them on

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<v Speaker 2>a couple occasions.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I hear that a lot, that they're the bosses

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<v Speaker 1>of the grays, that they're they're somehow in control of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You think the Grays are just some type of biological

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<v Speaker 1>AI or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think maybe some of them are, but in general,

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<v Speaker 2>in general they are. They are races that in most

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<v Speaker 2>cases used to be more like us. And they've had

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<v Speaker 2>technology for so long that it's it's that it's changed them.

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<v Speaker 2>They've often, at least the short grays, have altered themselves

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<v Speaker 2>by genetic engineering and over exposure to radiation and overuse

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<v Speaker 2>of transporters and technologies like that, and now they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to fix themselves. And the Grays are an alliance of

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<v Speaker 2>like seven similar species, and they've all been changed by

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<v Speaker 2>technology to one extend or another. But I think the

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<v Speaker 2>short grazer and and the worst shape, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>part of the reason they're doing all these subductions. They

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<v Speaker 2>want people like us in their society, and they want

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<v Speaker 2>to fix themselves with human DNA or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there certain are there certain bloodlines that are actually

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<v Speaker 1>targeted more for these abductions and these implants.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's a it's a lineage thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They've mapped out all the blood lines of humanity long ago, apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>and they know what characteristics they're interested in, and they

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<v Speaker 2>hand pick individuals to be part of their program based

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<v Speaker 2>on their bloodlines and and genetic makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>I've spoken with a lot of researchers that that tend

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that there's an ongoing hybridization program. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>something that you have heard of or encountered or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>been been told.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they they they apparently genetically modify most of the

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<v Speaker 2>people that are involved in the program, and they also

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<v Speaker 2>have the people that are called that you're calling hybrids

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<v Speaker 2>or have a lot more alien DNA and are were

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<v Speaker 2>created in the program to try to create beings that

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<v Speaker 2>that look like humans but have all the gray abilities.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently they've had to put so much human DNA

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<v Speaker 2>and into them to make them look human that the

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<v Speaker 2>gray abilities are quite diluted, but they're they're a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more psychic and and intuitive than normal humans, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have faster reflexes, they're stronger, that sort of thing.

427
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 1>So do you think that these these hybrids that they're

428
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>actually walking amongst us?

429
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so. I don't know how. I don't

430
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:16.799
<v Speaker 2>know how many, but I have reasonablie if it's at

431
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 2>least a few thousand.

432
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Now from your experiences these beings are they do they

433
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>have the ability to, I guess travel interdimensionally? Are they

434
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>interdimensional beings? Or are are the are the have you

435
00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 1>they been physical the ones that you've encountered, Well.

436
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:41.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean they have time travel, so in that sense,

437
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:48.319
<v Speaker 2>they're interdimensional. They can travel between between alternate realities. In fact,

438
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>they told me that. One one thing they did tell

439
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>me is is that they don't like to use time travel.

440
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>It's more dangerous than space travel. You can get into

441
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>an alternate reality and it would be it might be

442
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>difficult to get out. And but no, I don't think

443
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>they're from from an alternate universe per se. They told

444
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>me that they're that they're from Their races are in

445
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>general from planets within one hundred light years of here,

446
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>one of which one of which is the rearticulate for

447
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and sixty one Earth some majoris three is another one.

448
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I find it interesting that you said they used to

449
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 1>be a lot more like us, and you know, all

450
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.519
<v Speaker 1>these things that they've done to themselves have changed their

451
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>appearance time. Do you think that they were very much

452
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 1>like humanoid beings possibly humans, you know, and they're they're

453
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>us in the future.

454
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I've heard some of them are. Yeah. Area fifty one

455
00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 2>supposed they made contact with a group of grays that

456
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 2>were humans from the future, from like a million years

457
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 2>from now. And typically these beings start looking like grays

458
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.599
<v Speaker 2>when they've had technology for well in excess of one

459
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:13.440
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand years, usually like on the order of a

460
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Speaker 2>million years. That's my understanding.

461
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Now, what are your thoughts on our secret space program?

462
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that we have operations on the Moon

463
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:31.039
<v Speaker 1>on the Mars?

464
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we've had a secret space program for

465
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:41.599
<v Speaker 2>a long time, according to my research. When the Air

466
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Force announced they were getting out of the space business

467
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen fifty seven, I believe it was, and

468
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 2>they formed NASA, that was for show. I mean, they

469
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:52.079
<v Speaker 2>never did get out of the space business. They've had

470
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.559
<v Speaker 2>a secret space program ever since then. NASA has always

471
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 2>been a dog and pony show to by the public

472
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 2>and to get all the space scientists under one roof

473
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>where they can be controlled and what they say can

474
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 2>be controlled. And the Air Force has been trying to

475
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:17.279
<v Speaker 2>advance in space for ever since then, and they've had

476
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>anti gravity powered craft. They're like, you know, primitive versions

477
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>or less sophisticated versions of what the aliens have since

478
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the late sixties. From one to understand, how.

479
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Far ahead do you think our military industrial complex is

480
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>as far as technology. I mean, I've heard up to

481
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty years.

482
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in general, it's about that. In certain areas are

483
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>more than one hundred years ahead, but yeah, about fifty

484
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 2>years in general.

485
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And do you think that we will ever see any

486
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>of this possible free energy technology, you know, anti gravity.

487
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I think we're probably going to see the anti gravity

488
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 2>before we see the free energy. I think in order

489
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to see the free energy, we're going to have to

490
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 2>change how we how we govern this planet and and

491
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, take the power out of the hands of

492
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 2>this this power elite that controls people that don't know

493
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:24.640
<v Speaker 2>all the oil companies and the pharmaceutical companies and and

494
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 2>the big industries in general. The reason we the reason

495
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 2>we haven't gotten off oil is not because there aren't

496
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>better ways of generating power, but because oil and so

497
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 2>called fossil fuels are as good as it gets as

498
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>far as the profit margin for the power elid. You

499
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 2>need to burn mega tons of the stuff to generate

500
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>any great amount of power, and it's a substance that

501
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.839
<v Speaker 2>occurs all over the planet. We're not running out. That's

502
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:55.279
<v Speaker 2>a myth that we're running out. It's generated from inorganic

503
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>reactions deeper than the Earth. There has nothing to do

504
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>with fossils, and to specifically at the crust out near

505
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 2>the crust mantle boundary. That's why if any place starts faulting,

506
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Speaker 2>oil comes to the service. It's actually the liquid that

507
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 2>the crystal plates float on. But in an event, we're

508
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 2>not running out, and you have to burn megatons of

509
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the stuff, and you can charge a hundred dollars a

510
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>barrel for it, and it's difficult to see any other

511
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 2>way of generating power have a higher profit margin than that.

512
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.960
<v Speaker 2>And they also control people that way. You need their

513
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 2>oil in order to generate power. If we had free energy.

514
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Then you could have a little box that would power

515
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:40.799
<v Speaker 2>your house and everybody would be independent. Yeah, they have.

516
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.519
<v Speaker 2>Even when they have things like nuclear power, for example,

517
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.319
<v Speaker 2>they want to make huge megapower plants out of it

518
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 2>that everybody has to depend on, rather than smaller units

519
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 2>that would be safer. You know, that brings on it

520
00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>all centralized.

521
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 1>That brings me to my next point of I think that's,

522
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, the reason why so many of us believe

523
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:11.599
<v Speaker 1>that or want to believe that these elites are in

524
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 1>control from an off planet or a malevolent source, or

525
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.519
<v Speaker 1>even some kind of demonic source. They don't want to

526
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>believe that humans just come up with this on their own,

527
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and then they want to enslave humanity just for the

528
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.639
<v Speaker 1>sake of power, just for the sake of money. But

529
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm still on the fence. Is it just

530
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>humanity and slaving itself or is there something out there that's,

531
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, controlling them, pulling their strings. What are your

532
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that.

533
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little of both. I think that

534
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the the power lead are extremely corrupt, morally bankrupt individuals,

535
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 2>and I think they probably are being influenced by aliens

536
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>of sun strike. Probably reptilians, like they say. And one reason,

537
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.679
<v Speaker 2>one reason I think that there's some alien influence involved

538
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>is bec because there seems to be a very long term,

539
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>multi century plan to do all this enslaving of humanity.

540
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 2>And I just don't believe that the humans are capable

541
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 2>of planning much beyond a human lifetime. Its just it

542
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 2>would be highly uncharacteristic anyway, for individuals that corrupt give

543
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 2>two hoots about what happens after they die. So aliens

544
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 2>have a much longer lifespan. So that's why I think

545
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that there probably is an alien alien influence involved with us,

546
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it's really the Grays. I think

547
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:39.679
<v Speaker 2>if it is aliens, it probably is the reptilians.

548
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

549
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's so many aspects of our society that

550
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>is going, I believe, in the wrong direction. I mean,

551
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:51.079
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing enhancements in technology, but what are we using

552
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>it for. I mean, most of the nation is staring

553
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>at their smartphones and not producing anything, not giving back

554
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:04.199
<v Speaker 1>to society, and you know, it's all about themselves and

555
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.760
<v Speaker 1>their devices, and just the nonsense that the media is

556
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 1>spewing out there. The agendas seem to get worse every year,

557
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 1>and people are just buying into it and going along

558
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 1>with it, and it doesn't seem to be changing in

559
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>any way. There's a few of us that are waking

560
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>up to this and becoming aware and spreading the word,

561
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't seem to be enough to be making

562
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:34.599
<v Speaker 1>a change that in the direction we need to go.

563
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we're making some progress, but I hope

564
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>it's it's not too little, too late. I mean, the

565
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Grays really do want us to wake up and do

566
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>things better and improve things. There's really no reason technologically

567
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>why things can be getting better and better on this

568
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 2>planet instead of worse and worse. The only reason they're

569
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:00.320
<v Speaker 2>getting worse and worse, in my opinion, is because the

570
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 2>power elite want more and more and more money out

571
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.599
<v Speaker 2>of us, and more and more and more control. And

572
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and when you disempower people and and uh make and

573
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, take all their money away and everything, and

574
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 2>then things are definitely gonna get worse and worse. The

575
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:22.079
<v Speaker 2>type of system that they that they have set up

576
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Speaker 2>and that they that they want to promulgate is and

577
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 2>sustainable and that the grades are concerned about that too.

578
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>And all the technology we we do have we use

579
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 2>for or release governments use for better ways of killing

580
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 2>each other. And we need to we need to, you know,

581
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 2>do something instructive as a race rather than always destructive.

582
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no reason why we ought to behave

583
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.599
<v Speaker 2>with every new technology like a kid that's found his

584
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>father's gun. I mean, as it's you know, we needed

585
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:55.239
<v Speaker 2>we need to be more responsible than that.

586
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Now you said that it's the grades that they want

587
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>to help us. I hear so many contrady stories about

588
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the Grays. Yeah, they're very misunderstood. I think some of

589
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:16.320
<v Speaker 1>them actually are leveling hyper robotic entities that may be

590
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>under control of reptilian races. But I hear some of

591
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>them are here to help us. So you've experienced primarily

592
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the ones that are here to help or so they.

593
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Say, well, yeah they're not they're not warm and fuzzy,

594
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 2>but and they're here. They're mainly here to help themselves

595
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.079
<v Speaker 2>to our resources and such, but they are here secondarily

596
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to to help the planet and to help us become

597
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>a more more sane and responsible race. Definitely, But I

598
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:49.920
<v Speaker 2>disagree with people say that they're total scum, sucking evil.

599
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just I just haven't really experienced.

600
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that there was an agreement with Eisenhower

601
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and the z T for technology in exchange for human abduction.

602
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there was. I don't have any any

603
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:10.760
<v Speaker 2>proof of that, but it certainly makes sense. I mean,

604
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>they had they had a big, a big to do

605
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 2>with UFOs over the White House in nineteen fifty two,

606
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 2>and they were trying to shoot and shoot them down

607
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>prior to that big time, and it sort of makes

608
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>sense that that somebody would have requested a meeting and

609
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower was actually missing during a couple of time periods

610
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>when people said they had a meeting with the Grays

611
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 2>at Patterson Air Force Base, it said that Kennedy met

612
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 2>with them too, And I was kind of mad that

613
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 2>they about them selling us out at first, but then

614
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I figured, well what else? What else really could they

615
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.000
<v Speaker 2>do that if they had not agreed to it, the

616
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Grays would have just done it anyway, and they wouldn't

617
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:58.159
<v Speaker 2>have gotten anything out of it. They wanted to get

618
00:39:58.199 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 2>technology out of it, at least.

619
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>So what are your thoughts on what's happening now with disclosure.

620
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 1>There's i'd like to say, interesting things happening. I don't

621
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 1>know what direction they're trying to come with this, with

622
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>the Navy sidings and all the mainstream media talking about

623
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 1>UFOs and now this whole craze with storm Area fifty one,

624
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.519
<v Speaker 1>it just seems like it's all happening at one time

625
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>more prevalent. Now, do you think that there's some sort

626
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:34.519
<v Speaker 1>of agenda.

627
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.880
<v Speaker 2>There, Yeah, I think there always has. There always has

628
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>been two conflicting agendas and government about disclosure. The intelligence

629
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 2>agencies want to keep the alien presence under wraps forever,

630
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of other government agencies want to disclose

631
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 2>or at least disclosed in a controlled manner after a

632
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 2>certain amount of time. And I think the Navy now

633
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:56.920
<v Speaker 2>believes that that time has come and that we should

634
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>we should be seriously preparing the public for for disclosure,

635
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 2>and they have a lot of pull, and I think

636
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:09.639
<v Speaker 2>that they and maybe some other government agencies have instituted

637
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<v Speaker 2>a push for this and said told the intelligence community

638
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.159
<v Speaker 2>community that enough is enough, We're going to do this.

639
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, several people have told me that that there's

640
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<v Speaker 2>more of a push for disclosure right now than ever before.

641
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<v Speaker 2>And it was really kind of abrupt because just like

642
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 2>two years ago, we were in the midst of another

643
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>crackdown on talking about UFO. So it goes in cycles,

644
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>but this cycle appears to be it appears to be

645
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 2>different according to what I've heard, and that that we

646
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.960
<v Speaker 2>may actually get disclosure at the end of it this time.

647
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that we will see it within I

648
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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to say the next five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a good chance. I'm not going to say

650
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<v Speaker 2>it for sure, but I think there's maybe a fifty

651
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>good chance we'll see disclosure within five years.

652
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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on what's happening with Trump? Do

654
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 1>you know I I don't really follow politics. I never

655
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>trusted the presidents. I always believe there are puppets. But

656
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I tell people, I do see something

657
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.559
<v Speaker 1>with Trump that I haven't seen before. I just don't

658
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>know if there's another agenda behind that, you know, a

659
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 1>hidden agenda behind the agenda. It's so hard to tell.

660
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 1>With with everything that's happened. What are your thoughts. Do

661
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you think he's on our side and he's trying to

662
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<v Speaker 1>get the ball rolling in the right direction for us?

663
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump Trump in part

664
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.880
<v Speaker 2>started this latest push towards disclosure. I know his I

665
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:45.840
<v Speaker 2>believe it was. His father was heavily involved in in

666
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>UFO research from within the government, and he knows all

667
00:42:52.280 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>about all about this stuff, and I think that he's not.

668
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Part of the reason that people are so against him

669
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<v Speaker 2>is that in the media because he's not a puppet,

670
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:05.880
<v Speaker 2>or at least he's not nearly as much of a

671
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 2>puppet as the last few presidents we've had, and that

672
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 2>worries a lot. And these people in the so called

673
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>deep state are very worried about him who he's, from

674
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 2>their point of view, loose cannon, and he wants to

675
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:20.159
<v Speaker 2>put things back the way they were.

676
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<v Speaker 1>So do you see do you see a victory for him?

677
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you think we're still going to keep going in

678
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<v Speaker 1>that same direction.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as disclosure or.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the election. Do you think that he

681
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<v Speaker 1>has a chance that we're going to keep moving in

682
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<v Speaker 1>that direction?

683
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<v Speaker 2>Do I think he's going to get re elected? You

684
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<v Speaker 2>mean or yeah, yes, I believe it will get re elected.

685
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<v Speaker 2>I think that people, that the deep state people are

686
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<v Speaker 2>not going to be able to counter the groundswell of

687
00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:01.079
<v Speaker 2>positive public opinion about Trump improving the economy and trying

688
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:03.920
<v Speaker 2>to stop this agenda of giving all power to illegal

689
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>aliens and and and all that sort of thing that

690
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<v Speaker 2>they've been doing this crazy stuff.

691
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<v Speaker 1>Now as far as all these other agendas, these you know,

692
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 1>these hidden agendas to you know, you see it. I'm

693
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to dumb us down through the media. Very suspect

694
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<v Speaker 1>of five G. I don't believe that it's going to

695
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.320
<v Speaker 1>be just for faster download speeds. I believe that there's

696
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.199
<v Speaker 1>some malevolent purposes behind that. What are your thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I totally agree. I mean, I've seen indications from

698
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<v Speaker 2>what I've been from from my research that five G

699
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.400
<v Speaker 2>can be weaponized and can be used to spy on people,

700
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and can be used to do mind control and several

701
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.679
<v Speaker 2>other things. And that's the reason the government's pushing for it.

702
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<v Speaker 2>So are it's not to down load PDF files faster

703
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 2>than than we can do now. Everybody, including Trump and

704
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:10.679
<v Speaker 2>government wants five year. They're just salivating for it, and

705
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<v Speaker 2>to the point where they're willing to launch like a

706
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 2>trillion dollars worth of new satellites in order to support it.

707
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<v Speaker 2>And this is in spite of the fact that it's

708
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 2>known for sure that radiation in that wave band is

709
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.920
<v Speaker 2>terrible for you and they're planning on bathing the planet

710
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and low levels of high gigurts tarts radiation, and nobody

711
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<v Speaker 2>knows what effect I'll have.

712
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<v Speaker 1>It can't be good, definitely. Now, as far as our

713
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>secret space program, a lot of the UFOs that do

714
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>you believe that those are actual off planet crafts or

715
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<v Speaker 1>do you think that's a lot of our military.

716
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.039
<v Speaker 2>I think most of them are alien. My personal opinion

717
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.199
<v Speaker 2>is that most of them are are alien, but maybe

718
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>a third of them or are ours. The percentage of

719
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.360
<v Speaker 2>ones that are ours is probably going to continue to increase.

720
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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely increased since the nineteen sixties and seventies. They

721
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 2>reportedly perfected the anty gravity craft to the point where

722
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 2>it was pretty safe and can carry large loads and

723
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>such around then around the mid nineties. So they have

724
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:43.039
<v Speaker 2>now a fleet of any gravity powered spacecraft. And a

725
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<v Speaker 2>Congressman from Alaska during that that hearing on disclosure that

726
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<v Speaker 2>they that they that Steve Bassett held in Washington, d C.

727
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<v Speaker 2>Actually admitted that during the proceedings.

728
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<v Speaker 1>Now, as far as the the alien species, the Grays,

729
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 1>for instance, they have an agreement that they can't intervene

730
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<v Speaker 1>with anything in our planet?

731
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<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there's a there's like an alien un

733
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<v Speaker 2>where all the powerful alien species interact, and I think

734
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<v Speaker 2>they've got got a rule that they cannot, you know,

735
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<v Speaker 2>interfere in primitive planets unless they have local government approval.

736
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<v Speaker 2>And the Grays now have local government approval to do

737
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.000
<v Speaker 2>certain things. But I don't think they can do anything

738
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<v Speaker 2>they want down here. Even still, I think they're also

739
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<v Speaker 2>there's subject to the will of other powerful alien species.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, have you seen an increase in implants since you

741
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<v Speaker 1>first started researching this?

742
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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say. I know that that most people

743
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>that to see me have implants, because that's a that's

744
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 2>a totally, very highly enriched, pre selected sample of people

745
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:15.039
<v Speaker 2>towards having implants or abduction activity. But as far as

746
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:21.719
<v Speaker 2>an increase in in abduction and the prevalence of implants

747
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:25.800
<v Speaker 2>in the general population, I think so, But I don't

748
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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't know. I don't know how to how

749
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:36.559
<v Speaker 2>to prove that. We'd have to do a study involving

750
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.559
<v Speaker 2>a large number of people to prove that. Certainly the

751
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 2>number of UFO sightings has gone up, and most likely

752
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 2>most most of those UFO sightings are abduction related. I mean,

753
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 2>I have reasonably. They fly thousands of sorties a day

754
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.519
<v Speaker 2>for supporting the abduction program.

755
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<v Speaker 1>Now, do you think that it's possible that we will

756
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<v Speaker 1>have disclosure from them and not it won't come from us.

757
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's possible. It's quite possible. I know. I've been

758
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:11.400
<v Speaker 2>saying that for years, that that the Aliens are going

759
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 2>to disclose themselves eventually if we don't. And it's possible

760
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<v Speaker 2>if the Aliens give them an ultimatum that they've got

761
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<v Speaker 2>to disclose or or or we will, and that would

762
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<v Speaker 2>certainly get the ball rolling, don't I don't know that

763
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<v Speaker 2>for a fact, but it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Very interesting now, Steve, I want to thank you again

765
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 1>so much for coming on tonight, and could you give

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00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>everybody your websites before you head out.

767
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sure, it's it's www dot Alien Evidence, Inc. I

768
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<v Speaker 2>n C dot webs dot com. And it needs a

769
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<v Speaker 2>little work at present, but it's got a couple of

770
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<v Speaker 2>papers on it on my implant and patient sixteen's implant

771
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 2>that I think people that are scientifically minded would find

772
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<v Speaker 2>very interesting. Both of them were sophisticated nanotechnological devices with

773
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<v Speaker 2>large amounts of carbon nanotubes in the interior, and I

774
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<v Speaker 2>urge everybody to take a look at those and there's

775
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:22.079
<v Speaker 2>there's ample evidence from my analysis that both the those

776
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<v Speaker 2>pieces were from off planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, and I want to thank you so much

778
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<v Speaker 1>again for coming on tonight, Steve, and you have an

779
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<v Speaker 1>excellent rest of your night.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you too, and thank you for inviting me tonight.

781
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<v Speaker 1>I want to welcome back to the show, host of

782
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<v Speaker 1>the Steiger Perspective, founder of sixty Seconds for Humanity, and

783
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.679
<v Speaker 1>our favorite philosopher, Wayne Steiger. How you doing tonight, Wayne.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, doing well? Thank you for having me back on, Chris.

785
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:50.599
<v Speaker 3>How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm good. I want to thank you again for

787
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>joining us. It's always a pleasure always have a great conversation.

788
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<v Speaker 1>And you have been on a few times. But you

789
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>know I've got some new subscribers since then, so just

790
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<v Speaker 1>give us a brief bit about what brought you down

791
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<v Speaker 1>your current path.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you know, I was much like everybody else.

793
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<v Speaker 3>Everyone wants success, you know, that's how you look at life,

794
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:26.360
<v Speaker 3>and mine was in that course. I had a course

795
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:30.599
<v Speaker 3>planned out and you know, went that way. Was you know,

796
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.960
<v Speaker 3>devout Christian or at least that's what I you know,

797
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:40.320
<v Speaker 3>proclaimed like everybody else, and then I don't know, it began,

798
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I guess for myself back in the early nineties, for myself,

799
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<v Speaker 3>as things begin well, this beginning, they did not add up.

800
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<v Speaker 3>They were more well, let's say, ambiguous in the structure.

801
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<v Speaker 3>Long story. Short after the the New Millennium, things just

802
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:06.760
<v Speaker 3>began to accelerate. And I don't know, I call it

803
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:11.480
<v Speaker 3>coming out of the godspell. And I suddenly realized that

804
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:15.760
<v Speaker 3>I had spent the majority of my life energy pursuing

805
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 3>worthless pursuits. You know, wealth, money, status, social it's what

806
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 3>everyone strives for. And I think I just got fortunate

807
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.880
<v Speaker 3>enough that was woke up, realized that Christianity was a

808
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:41.760
<v Speaker 3>false religion. And when you have basically that safety net,

809
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<v Speaker 3>because that's what religion does for you, It's a safety net.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if everything else goes to hell in the handbasket,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter. I got my religion, and you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have that, you know, then all of a sudden,

813
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:58.000
<v Speaker 3>the trap door opens and you go crap. So it

814
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<v Speaker 3>causes you to really begin to seek out, Well, well,

815
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<v Speaker 3>then what is the purpose? What is your purpose? Why

816
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:10.559
<v Speaker 3>are you here? How is this all related? For what purpose?

817
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<v Speaker 3>You know? And I tell people today, you know, it's

818
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 3>they say, well, do you believe in God? And I said, well,

819
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<v Speaker 3>I both don't believe in God, and I both believe

820
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.480
<v Speaker 3>in God. I believe that there is something above God.

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<v Speaker 3>All gods are a man construct. And I contend that

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<v Speaker 3>if there is a God that you know out of

823
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<v Speaker 3>my religion, well they have they been really scarce, particularly

824
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:43.480
<v Speaker 3>last two thousand years, no evidence. So I have pursued

825
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<v Speaker 3>the one thing that I think most people fear, Chris death.

826
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<v Speaker 3>And so when you don't have the religion anymore for guidelines,

827
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<v Speaker 3>you have to begin to look at it. As I

828
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<v Speaker 3>tell people, no one gets out of this life alive.

829
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<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't happen. And so we all are hoping

830
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<v Speaker 3>that there's a transmutation of consciousness, of our memories, our

831
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<v Speaker 3>existence into something else. And that's what I've dedicated my

832
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<v Speaker 3>life to now.

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<v Speaker 1>So that brings us perfectly into one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>things I want to talk about. What are we here

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<v Speaker 1>for in your experience? I mean, is this some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, training ground for the next level? I mean,

837
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<v Speaker 1>are we just some sick experiment for some alien species?

838
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Are we just a hologram? Are we projecting everything as

839
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<v Speaker 1>we go, are we creating our own reality? I mean,

840
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<v Speaker 1>what do you think is really going on with our

841
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<v Speaker 1>existence here?

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<v Speaker 3>So I've been reading some great books. You just bring up.

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<v Speaker 3>The Holographic Universe by Michael Tablet Talbot is a required reading,

844
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<v Speaker 3>I think for everyone, and you know Michael Newton, Doctor

845
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Newton's book The Journey of the Souls is another one.

846
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:18.800
<v Speaker 3>And I'm conflicted in both of the aspects. Number One,

847
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.800
<v Speaker 3>I think we do live in a hologram. I think

848
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:25.199
<v Speaker 3>we live in the idea or the thought of something

849
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:30.480
<v Speaker 3>greater than ourselves. It comes into that whole question, all right,

850
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:34.039
<v Speaker 3>So do you believe in prophecy? You know, that's what

851
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 3>I used to Well, then that lends itself to predestination.

852
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:42.880
<v Speaker 3>And if you believe in predestination, then really free will

853
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:46.280
<v Speaker 3>has very little to play in it because ultimately the

854
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:51.000
<v Speaker 3>predestination of destiny will be played out. And that is

855
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:56.039
<v Speaker 3>a matrix. That is what a matrix is. And I

856
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 3>don't like that. I don't like that construct. I don't

857
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:05.000
<v Speaker 3>like the idea of somehow another coming back over and

858
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:08.719
<v Speaker 3>over again to somehow learn some sort of uh you know,

859
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 3>karmic uh lesson. You know, I don't like I have

860
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:15.760
<v Speaker 3>a problem with that, But Chris, I also have a

861
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.559
<v Speaker 3>problem with the fact that one lifetime is not enough.

862
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:28.760
<v Speaker 3>It's just not enough. So what is the purpose? You

863
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:30.840
<v Speaker 3>know that The thing that I challenge all of my

864
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 3>listeners to is to answer the following question, where does

865
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:41.679
<v Speaker 3>your thought originate from? Where does your thought?

866
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let me ask you, where does your thought

867
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 1>originally create consciousness? Or does consciousness create what? You know?

868
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:57.400
<v Speaker 3>We manifest Recently, uh, there was in physicians I forget

869
00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:01.480
<v Speaker 3>which magazine it was in, but they have made a

870
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:07.039
<v Speaker 3>breakthrough in more understanding of the brain itself, and it

871
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 3>appears that our brain actually exists in multiple dimensions. Now

872
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.079
<v Speaker 3>that brings on a whole lot of interesting things the brain.

873
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:21.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, the very basic rudiment of our brain is

874
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 3>the reptilian stem, and then you get into the hippocampus,

875
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:31.320
<v Speaker 3>and then you get into the lobes and when you

876
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:39.800
<v Speaker 3>look at the panal gland. I contend that if consciousness

877
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:47.440
<v Speaker 3>exists in a tangible manifestation, which would be our brain,

878
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:52.840
<v Speaker 3>that brain is emitting an electrical signal. I think it's

879
00:57:52.880 --> 00:58:02.519
<v Speaker 3>four point eight amps. We know that the neurons in

880
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:09.760
<v Speaker 3>our brains are actually surrounded by electromagnetic fields, So each

881
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 3>thought that is generated is transformed to the nuclei of

882
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:19.119
<v Speaker 3>this neuron, which is quite fascinating when you look at

883
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:21.639
<v Speaker 3>the structure of them, and then then to know that

884
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 3>these neurons interact only to a destination that they are

885
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:30.880
<v Speaker 3>designed for, and all the other trillions of neurons that

886
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:34.800
<v Speaker 3>they meet they reject until it hits to the right point.

887
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:41.760
<v Speaker 3>And the question becomes, so does spirit soul? Is that

888
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 3>what we define consciousness as is that the soul is

889
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:51.440
<v Speaker 3>that the spirit essence of what makes you, Chris, you, me, myself.

890
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:54.639
<v Speaker 3>The thing the reality is is that you and I

891
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:59.639
<v Speaker 3>do not exist in the same reality. We share a

892
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:04.159
<v Speaker 3>like reality, but I can never occupy your space and

893
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:05.719
<v Speaker 3>you can never occupy mind.

894
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 1>And being attached to our body, there's so many things

895
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that our consciousness can do for our bodies that ancients

896
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:23.159
<v Speaker 1>have tapped into that we have long since lost. And

897
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>it seems like you know, they're you know, those in

898
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:32.280
<v Speaker 1>power are trying to suppress those natural abilities that consciousness

899
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 1>has to give us.

900
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And to amplify your point, here's the thing that

901
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.280
<v Speaker 3>I challenge all people with is that if you pray,

902
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:48.639
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people do I used to. I still meditate.

903
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Now what you're doing is simply practicing telepathic communication. And there's,

904
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, the way to answer that. You can't refute

905
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:06.039
<v Speaker 3>me on this. And if you think you're hearing from God,

906
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.880
<v Speaker 3>then guess what you've connected to a greater consciousness that

907
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 3>now the two of you are communicating telepathically.

908
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, that brings us to the spirit world. That brings

909
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:27.119
<v Speaker 1>us to communication with something other than humans, possibly, whether

910
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it be interdimensional beings or another version of humanity. Whether

911
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the ancients really were communicating, they believed it. Some of

912
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 1>our people in power today believe in this. So there

913
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:48.280
<v Speaker 1>has got to be something too, a communication with a

914
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:49.119
<v Speaker 1>spirit world.

915
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 3>I absolutely agree with you. I am reading this book

916
01:00:52.639 --> 01:01:01.480
<v Speaker 3>called Multidimensional Man by Jurgen Ziewey, and it's a fascinating book.

917
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 3>He really gets into a lot of what the journey

918
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:09.360
<v Speaker 3>of the souls. You know, I used to be afraid

919
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:14.840
<v Speaker 3>of death. Most people are. My wife works in the

920
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:20.199
<v Speaker 3>medical industry and in her field, a lot of people

921
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:26.239
<v Speaker 3>pass on and there is a syndrome that virtually, I

922
01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:29.280
<v Speaker 3>can tell you most of your listeners will most likely

923
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:34.760
<v Speaker 3>encounter unless they get over it. It's called the death syndrome.

924
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:39.639
<v Speaker 3>And this is what happens to people because they're so

925
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:44.840
<v Speaker 3>afraid of dying that they become into an agitated state.

926
01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Their spirit literally becomes agitated to where it affects the

927
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:53.360
<v Speaker 3>physical body. And what they have to do is basically

928
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 3>give drugs to quiet that person's mind down so that

929
01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:06.119
<v Speaker 3>the separation process can take place. So spirits do they exist? Well,

930
01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:08.199
<v Speaker 3>I think you have to get into this whole thing

931
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:11.800
<v Speaker 3>once I begin to face death and look at it.

932
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:16.639
<v Speaker 3>If death exists, in which it obviously does, because that's

933
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:22.679
<v Speaker 3>how we're getting out. Death has to be alive. Do

934
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:25.639
<v Speaker 3>you think about that. I mean, if it's a spirit

935
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:31.039
<v Speaker 3>of death, then that spirit is alive. It can't be dead.

936
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:40.480
<v Speaker 3>So I, particularly in the Western culture and civilization, we're

937
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:44.559
<v Speaker 3>taught to fear death from the minute you're born to

938
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.920
<v Speaker 3>the minute you get to your grave. You're you're You're

939
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:51.480
<v Speaker 3>taught to fear that because in essence, what it's saying

940
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:54.719
<v Speaker 3>is that you're not going to exist after that. And

941
01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:57.119
<v Speaker 3>that's why when you and I first started talking about

942
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.760
<v Speaker 3>the whole process, is consciousness trands me you to dead death?

943
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know now. I contend that there are spirits.

944
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:12.920
<v Speaker 3>I believe that we all have spirit guides. We're on

945
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:19.280
<v Speaker 3>a journey. And you know, reality, Chris is based upon

946
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:25.960
<v Speaker 3>five inputs. Three are chemical, two are electrical, and that's

947
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:29.320
<v Speaker 3>what we sense with everything of reality of our brains.

948
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:33.920
<v Speaker 3>We sense the chemical around us that inputs what we

949
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 3>considered to be taste, et cetera. And then you look

950
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:43.559
<v Speaker 3>at the electrical input, which is thought sight. That's what

951
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:44.599
<v Speaker 3>reality is.

952
01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Now. Earlier you were talking about how you don't want

953
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to be basically recycled, you don't want to come back

954
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.280
<v Speaker 1>or you know, reincarnation. What are your thoughts on that?

955
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that our consciousness is basically placed back

956
01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:08.599
<v Speaker 1>here until we learn what we're supposed to learn in

957
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:09.119
<v Speaker 1>this life.

958
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, according to doctor Newton, and he has, you know,

959
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:18.800
<v Speaker 3>thirty plus years of his practice in doing what they

960
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:24.679
<v Speaker 3>call a regression hypnosis. And in this book here he

961
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:29.960
<v Speaker 3>gives thirty different case histories, people who did not know

962
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:34.599
<v Speaker 3>each other, not even anything close. But the uncanny thing

963
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.440
<v Speaker 3>is is that they all reported virtually the same thing.

964
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:44.599
<v Speaker 3>So this gets a little weird. What's going on here?

965
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Now?

966
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:51.599
<v Speaker 3>They contend that when we leave our bodies, we are

967
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:54.840
<v Speaker 3>in a state of shock. The same way that we

968
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.639
<v Speaker 3>were in a state of shock. When we're born. You

969
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:02.599
<v Speaker 3>can only be born once. You cannot endure the experience

970
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:06.280
<v Speaker 3>of what we call the human birth process, it'll kill you.

971
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:14.760
<v Speaker 3>So when you depart your body, and sometimes people have

972
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:24.920
<v Speaker 3>that fear is so embedded that it literally freezes their

973
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 3>spirits when they depart the body, and it takes them

974
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:34.599
<v Speaker 3>sometimes a while to begin to accept it. Now there's

975
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 3>others who they say are old souls that are about

976
01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:42.199
<v Speaker 3>to get promotion. Apparently the progression is is that there

977
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:48.239
<v Speaker 3>is a progression. I'm a teacher. That's what I have

978
01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:54.480
<v Speaker 3>always been, apparently, and now according to these different patients,

979
01:05:55.239 --> 01:06:00.239
<v Speaker 3>when you get there, there is a pool that begins

980
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.960
<v Speaker 3>that they say is it comes from almost like here,

981
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:09.480
<v Speaker 3>and it pulls you. There's an energy force and it's

982
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:12.760
<v Speaker 3>one that once you tap into it, they say that

983
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 3>it's the most peaceful thing. It's many of them describe

984
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:22.719
<v Speaker 3>it as like a warm blanket coming out of the dryer.

985
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:29.039
<v Speaker 3>And that we go back and we're actually all part

986
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:34.840
<v Speaker 3>of tribes. There's no more than twenty in a tribe

987
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:41.920
<v Speaker 3>or a pod, and each pod or tribe has a teacher.

988
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:46.440
<v Speaker 3>And as we go through these life for aggressions. It

989
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:52.800
<v Speaker 3>is our progressions. It's apparently our choice, but you have

990
01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:55.800
<v Speaker 3>to do it in order to progress. Now, that's what

991
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.719
<v Speaker 3>this says, and there's a lot more to it. There

992
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:04.440
<v Speaker 3>is no God in the sense of what the Judeo

993
01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Christian or the Islamic or the Vedic projections of what

994
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:16.880
<v Speaker 3>God or God's are. There is something that permeates everything

995
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:22.880
<v Speaker 3>in the spirit realm. It's everywhere. Everyone knows it, everyone

996
01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:27.800
<v Speaker 3>is aware of it. There is apparently a higher counsel.

997
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Each of us apparently do go before and given accounting.

998
01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:38.280
<v Speaker 3>But it's not a prosecutical procedure. It's actually one that

999
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:42.000
<v Speaker 3>they say is interactive and engaging. Well, look at this

1000
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:45.199
<v Speaker 3>situation that you faced in your life. Why did you

1001
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:48.719
<v Speaker 3>make those decisions when you knew that you had ultimate

1002
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:53.519
<v Speaker 3>other choices? Why did you choose that particular path? Those

1003
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:58.000
<v Speaker 3>are the type of things. The whole thing of what

1004
01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:04.480
<v Speaker 3>they say about karma is not what is there. There

1005
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:11.920
<v Speaker 3>is nothing that's transferable. There are those spirits. They say

1006
01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:17.479
<v Speaker 3>that they become contaminated and they have to be segregated

1007
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:22.520
<v Speaker 3>from the other souls, and they're kind of put into

1008
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:28.239
<v Speaker 3>a place much to akin to what they created here,

1009
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:32.680
<v Speaker 3>and we're talking about murderers. We're talking about those who

1010
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:37.640
<v Speaker 3>find cruelty. They go into what they call an extensive

1011
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:42.560
<v Speaker 3>rehab program. Basically what is So that's one thought. Now

1012
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:49.479
<v Speaker 3>you read Zawi's book, and I've experienced myself through the

1013
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:54.199
<v Speaker 3>use of LSD back in the seventies of astro projection,

1014
01:08:55.800 --> 01:09:00.560
<v Speaker 3>got very good at that, and I saw a different

1015
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:06.079
<v Speaker 3>type of realm. I saw a realm where there were

1016
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:14.680
<v Speaker 3>many spirits, various sizes, various looks. But I do know

1017
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:18.399
<v Speaker 3>that there is something that's tangible and real. So I'm

1018
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:20.680
<v Speaker 3>sorry for taking up the time, but that kind of

1019
01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:25.439
<v Speaker 3>gives you the concentric view of what there seems to

1020
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:29.000
<v Speaker 3>be awaiting all of us. I don't know.

1021
01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's take that a little bit deeper. Now, going

1022
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:38.880
<v Speaker 1>beyond the spirit world, what about entities that may have

1023
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.520
<v Speaker 1>always been here, arconic entities or what some may call

1024
01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:48.840
<v Speaker 1>demonic entities. You know, entities of nature are something that

1025
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:53.319
<v Speaker 1>is beyond our dimension, that may have always been around

1026
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and could possibly be influencing humanity.

1027
01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:04.960
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting. F Paul Wilson uh great, great science fiction writer.

1028
01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:08.479
<v Speaker 3>He has a book called Night World. I recommend it,

1029
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:16.079
<v Speaker 3>but in his books he describes what he calls the otherness.

1030
01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:27.680
<v Speaker 3>This is a consciousness that they're indifferent. They really don't

1031
01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:36.560
<v Speaker 3>care humanity. It's consciousness, it's essence, Its energy is something

1032
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:41.720
<v Speaker 3>to be prized. But it's like, all right, the thing

1033
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:46.560
<v Speaker 3>gets you fine, if it gets you fine, And that

1034
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of puts us into a whole plane. I contend, Chris,

1035
01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:59.399
<v Speaker 3>no matter the greatest philosophers, the greatest christ conscious Buddhas,

1036
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:04.479
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to say, that have been here, I

1037
01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:09.960
<v Speaker 3>don't even think they broached what is still yet for

1038
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:12.760
<v Speaker 3>us to even conceive. I agree with you. I think

1039
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:16.079
<v Speaker 3>there is something I think Chris, that it's not good

1040
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:20.680
<v Speaker 3>and evil that is so finite. If that's where people's

1041
01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:27.600
<v Speaker 3>whole construct of their reality is predicated on good evil, Yeah,

1042
01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:30.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, you're going to be the uberus all over.

1043
01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.640
<v Speaker 3>You're going to be in a continual You're going to

1044
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.439
<v Speaker 3>be eating your own tail. That's what it's going to be.

1045
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:44.000
<v Speaker 3>That's insanity, and isn't isn't insanity defined an experiment that

1046
01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:46.920
<v Speaker 3>you'd continue to do the same experiment over and over

1047
01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:53.199
<v Speaker 3>again expecting a different result. Right, Well, then where does reincarnation.

1048
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:55.479
<v Speaker 3>There was a guy and I believe it was that

1049
01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:00.439
<v Speaker 3>cal Tech did a calculation experiment and you said, well,

1050
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:02.439
<v Speaker 3>let's just go back and if you take the Adam

1051
01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:05.920
<v Speaker 3>and Eve store right now, no one does, but you

1052
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:11.039
<v Speaker 3>have to go with some baseline. Where the hell did

1053
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:18.439
<v Speaker 3>all the souls come from? Seriously, I mean we're coming

1054
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:21.000
<v Speaker 3>in the back door somewhere. I mean, come on, you know,

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01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:25.800
<v Speaker 3>so something's going on here? I mean are we being

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01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:28.439
<v Speaker 3>set up? Not set up that's the wrong word. Are

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01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:35.840
<v Speaker 3>we anticipating something on a cosmic scale that you have

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01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:40.560
<v Speaker 3>to have gone through this process in order to absorb

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01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:43.520
<v Speaker 3>or to be able to move forward. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very interesting, And you know you mentioned it earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things, the hugest things that holds everybody

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01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:58.159
<v Speaker 1>back as a planet is religion. I believe that it

1063
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:05.359
<v Speaker 1>was created to enslave and keep us separate and at war,

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01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:11.239
<v Speaker 1>because to me, if there is a deity that requires worship,

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01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that's just a big red flag there. To me, I

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01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:17.399
<v Speaker 1>don't see why if it has infinite love that it

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01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:21.560
<v Speaker 1>would require your worship. And you know, what are your

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01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:22.079
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? You know, so I was a devoted Christian. I

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01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:29.079
<v Speaker 3>mean I was one of those people that supported Kenneth Copeland.

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01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I was in the Word of faith cult is what

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01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:38.159
<v Speaker 3>I would call it. So I believed in this Old

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01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Testament God that uh and it never was explained how

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01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.359
<v Speaker 3>it left one covenant and then started another new covenant.

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01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:52.479
<v Speaker 3>But that's where I believed at And when I finally

1076
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:58.479
<v Speaker 3>realized that a the story of the christ crucifixion ever happened,

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01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:03.000
<v Speaker 3>it it's you know, we can go into that in death.

1078
01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:07.119
<v Speaker 3>But here's the problem. So we have right this. You

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01:14:07.159 --> 01:14:11.000
<v Speaker 3>see this plaque right here, This plaque right here is

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01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:14.479
<v Speaker 3>First Corinthians thirteen four through eight. You know, I have

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01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:18.000
<v Speaker 3>it up there because if I ever meet the God

1082
01:14:18.319 --> 01:14:22.760
<v Speaker 3>that that wrote, that's a god I can dig. I

1083
01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:25.159
<v Speaker 3>tell people there isn't a God I've met in this

1084
01:14:25.239 --> 01:14:30.640
<v Speaker 3>world that I like. How can I so called worship

1085
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:34.920
<v Speaker 3>of God that I don't even like? And this Christian God, well,

1086
01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:38.960
<v Speaker 3>that's the problem. The Christians never had a god. They

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01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:44.520
<v Speaker 3>had to steal a god from a conquered people that

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01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:49.319
<v Speaker 3>you know were listen, the Hebrew God was not the

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01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:51.760
<v Speaker 3>god of the world. That at the same time that

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01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:55.760
<v Speaker 3>the Hebrews were coming about, we had the Samaran gods.

1091
01:14:56.159 --> 01:14:58.560
<v Speaker 3>But no one wants to talk about that. So where

1092
01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:01.920
<v Speaker 3>did this Hebrew god come from from? And what made him?

1093
01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Suddenly that the cat who gives ten commandments, who says

1094
01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:10.000
<v Speaker 3>thou shalt not kill. But yet in the very next book,

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01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:17.479
<v Speaker 3>he's commanding these Hebrews to commit genocide, to cut fetuses

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01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:21.600
<v Speaker 3>out of pregnant women's bodies, and to crush the skulls,

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01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:24.680
<v Speaker 3>and and and and and it gets even worse than

1098
01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:29.079
<v Speaker 3>that then, and you're reading the book of Deuteronomy, it's

1099
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:35.399
<v Speaker 3>there and Exodus is that. Then the women, the young girls,

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01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:39.840
<v Speaker 3>they're sold into the sex slavery to satisfy the lust

1101
01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:44.720
<v Speaker 3>of the Hebrew soldiers. This is a hell of a

1102
01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:50.640
<v Speaker 3>loving god. And somehow another we make this freaking miraculous

1103
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:57.439
<v Speaker 3>jump to this some alien hybrid that supposedly rapes a

1104
01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:02.920
<v Speaker 3>twelve year old girl, inseminates her with alien DNA that

1105
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:07.359
<v Speaker 3>produces a hybrid human that somehow another is supposed to

1106
01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:11.319
<v Speaker 3>deliver us from what I don't know, but claims to

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01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:14.720
<v Speaker 3>be the direct descendants of a Hebrew god.

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01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:22.920
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, it does seem that there's two different gods

1109
01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 1>that we're dealing with between the Old and New Testament.

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01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:33.239
<v Speaker 1>There's just so much I mean, war he would you know,

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01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:36.119
<v Speaker 1>a god that would command war or for you to

1112
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:39.479
<v Speaker 1>kill somebody, or or any kind of death. It doesn't

1113
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:44.079
<v Speaker 1>make sense that that is would be a loving creator.

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01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:49.399
<v Speaker 3>No, and mean pet what now I was gonna? You know,

1115
01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:58.800
<v Speaker 3>And the dedication of Solomon's temple, they slaughtered bulls, rams, goats, lambs.

1116
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:04.800
<v Speaker 3>They said for eight days straight that the blood flowed

1117
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:11.239
<v Speaker 3>out of the temple into the streets. Now I never

1118
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:16.560
<v Speaker 3>saw that when I was in that religion. Communion is

1119
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:23.520
<v Speaker 3>nothing more than symbolism for cannibalism. It really is. You

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01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:27.840
<v Speaker 3>can give me all the esoteric teachings behind it. I

1121
01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:30.720
<v Speaker 3>get it, but let's get real serious about that's what

1122
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:35.479
<v Speaker 3>it is. So I don't dig any god that requires

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01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:42.000
<v Speaker 3>a blood sacrifice me drinking blood. No, I renounced that God.

1124
01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:46.479
<v Speaker 3>I renounced this Jesus character because it never existed, you know.

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01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And here's my challenge to your listeners who are Christians.

1126
01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:57.079
<v Speaker 3>So here is three questions. I asked, Number one, which

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01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:05.960
<v Speaker 3>genius that's g n Us of man Homo sinned against God?

1128
01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Was it Neanderthal, Chromagna, Dennison, sapiens sapiens? Which one? All right,

1129
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:20.079
<v Speaker 3>now let's continue. So the next question, so God is

1130
01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:26.279
<v Speaker 3>a Christian. Yes, No. The next one the ambiguity of

1131
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:32.079
<v Speaker 3>this supposed savior, the true name of the Christ. You know,

1132
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:36.560
<v Speaker 3>it's real interesting. In the Gospel of John, they go

1133
01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:42.159
<v Speaker 3>to great links while this fictitious person as they painted

1134
01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:45.039
<v Speaker 3>the scene, and actually it's Francis Bacon who really did

1135
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.199
<v Speaker 3>the job, did a great job on it. But I

1136
01:18:47.279 --> 01:18:52.159
<v Speaker 3>digress of a supposed crucifixion, and at the moment of

1137
01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:58.960
<v Speaker 3>departure of death, the individual on this torture chamber, Rack

1138
01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:04.079
<v Speaker 3>says in the Hebrew tongue, you know, my God, my God.

1139
01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Wile host Alfrid say they did it from the English

1140
01:19:07.119 --> 01:19:15.039
<v Speaker 3>to the Hebrew. But yet prior to that one chapter,

1141
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:20.600
<v Speaker 3>prior to that, supposedly pontious pilot had them put above

1142
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:27.119
<v Speaker 3>the cross the three names of this Zamasiah. What are

1143
01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:35.279
<v Speaker 3>those three names? They don't exist, They're not in the book.

1144
01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't that clear up all the ambiguity, all the arguments.

1145
01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:45.359
<v Speaker 3>And here's what the bottom line of it is, Chris Man,

1146
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Homo sapiens sapiens are the only species that does not

1147
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:57.520
<v Speaker 3>know the moment of our creation, the moment we came

1148
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:04.000
<v Speaker 3>into existence. Contend it's because of this amnesia that all

1149
01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:08.039
<v Speaker 3>religion has been founded on. If we knew our true origins,

1150
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.159
<v Speaker 3>there would be no need for a religion period.

1151
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, there would be no need for a lot of things.

1152
01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would change, It would change our whole

1153
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:21.840
<v Speaker 1>reality if we actually knew what we are, where we

1154
01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:27.479
<v Speaker 1>came from. I have an interview tomorrow with doctor Lorraine Day.

1155
01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if you are familiar with her. She

1156
01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:34.119
<v Speaker 1>cured herself of cancer and she helps others, but she

1157
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:37.640
<v Speaker 1>just does it with her diet and positively. She cured

1158
01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:41.520
<v Speaker 1>herself basically with her with her diet and her her

1159
01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:46.039
<v Speaker 1>power of thought, and anybody can do this. We can

1160
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:49.239
<v Speaker 1>do this for ourselves. But they don't want us doing

1161
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:52.000
<v Speaker 1>this because they want us sick, They want us not

1162
01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:55.000
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to what's going on. They want us wrapped

1163
01:20:55.079 --> 01:20:57.680
<v Speaker 1>up in our phones and the technology and the newest

1164
01:20:57.720 --> 01:21:01.039
<v Speaker 1>stupid shows that are on TV. Because if we had

1165
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:05.479
<v Speaker 1>this ability to heal ourselves, and you know, the probable

1166
01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:08.720
<v Speaker 1>free energy that we could have, all these things, you know,

1167
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:11.359
<v Speaker 1>it would ruin It would ruin the world for the

1168
01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:14.600
<v Speaker 1>ones in control, you know, we live.

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01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:21.359
<v Speaker 3>I on my channel, we're going through magic, teaching the

1170
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:27.239
<v Speaker 3>whole science of magic. Magic in the literal translations, was

1171
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:32.000
<v Speaker 3>called science but anyone. So the conundrum we have here

1172
01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:38.479
<v Speaker 3>is us us homo sapiens sapiens. When they did the

1173
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:44.000
<v Speaker 3>human geno project, one that was a radical The church

1174
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:49.079
<v Speaker 3>still hasn't addressed it don't want to because when the

1175
01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:52.680
<v Speaker 3>human genome was mapped out, we found out something about us.

1176
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:57.640
<v Speaker 3>We're hybrids. There is no such thing as a true

1177
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:03.800
<v Speaker 3>human being. They still you know, no one likes the

1178
01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:07.560
<v Speaker 3>fact that we may have come from Ape man man,

1179
01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:11.239
<v Speaker 3>that was Ape. But yet no one wants to explain

1180
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:17.760
<v Speaker 3>how you get the rhesis hemoglomin in our blood? How

1181
01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:22.039
<v Speaker 3>did that get there? It's in us, it's not. And

1182
01:22:22.079 --> 01:22:26.079
<v Speaker 3>then to make it stranger, nearly and we thought initially

1183
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:30.520
<v Speaker 3>it was a smaller percentage. It's nearly seven percent of

1184
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:35.000
<v Speaker 3>this foreign DNA that they don't know where it comes from.

1185
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Call it junk dna.

1186
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and now they're finding the interesting thing about the

1187
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:45.600
<v Speaker 3>junk DNA. They're doing the human geno project too, the

1188
01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:52.800
<v Speaker 3>madiochondrial DNA, the feminine. Holy crap, this supposed junk DNA.

1189
01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Something ain't right, man. Somebody came into the kitchen and

1190
01:22:57.600 --> 01:22:59.239
<v Speaker 3>snuck something into the recipe.

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01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, I know they know this, and

1192
01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why they're spraying what they spray in

1193
01:23:07.439 --> 01:23:09.399
<v Speaker 1>the air. I think that's why they're putting what they

1194
01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:14.399
<v Speaker 1>put in the food. We can't eat healthy anymore. It's

1195
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>almost impossible. Everything is contaminated. It's very hard to find

1196
01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:24.800
<v Speaker 1>anything natural nowadays. They don't want us accessing our natural

1197
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:29.000
<v Speaker 1>abilities and powers. And yes, magic is real and we

1198
01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:31.319
<v Speaker 1>have the ability to tap into it because it's part

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01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of our universe. But they don't want us doing that.

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01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:36.600
<v Speaker 3>No, And you know the thing that you bring up,

1201
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:40.119
<v Speaker 3>So I was really a guy that you know, I

1202
01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:45.359
<v Speaker 3>have an identic memory. So I see, I remember everything

1203
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:48.840
<v Speaker 3>that I read, and so I knew the Bible front

1204
01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:54.840
<v Speaker 3>winder and backwards, and I knew about faith. If there's

1205
01:23:55.039 --> 01:24:00.039
<v Speaker 3>one thing that I took from my religion was I

1206
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:07.239
<v Speaker 3>knew the power of faith individually. Many stories I've read

1207
01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:10.680
<v Speaker 3>of people who in the Book of Proverbs it says

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01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:14.479
<v Speaker 3>laughter doeth the heart as a good medicine. I have

1209
01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:19.960
<v Speaker 3>read accounts of individuals who had basically a death sentence

1210
01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:24.520
<v Speaker 3>on their heart muscle. They had such advanced coronary disease

1211
01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:32.479
<v Speaker 3>that on two occasions they absolutely laughed themselves to a

1212
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:40.479
<v Speaker 3>new heart. Now how does the body regenerate organs? But

1213
01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:45.399
<v Speaker 3>we're finding out now that in our genetic code we

1214
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:53.600
<v Speaker 3>have the ability to do that. Yeah, I mean, you

1215
01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:58.399
<v Speaker 3>know me. I'll share other stories. So I worked these

1216
01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:04.840
<v Speaker 3>camp meetings crusades, like I said, with Kenneth Copeland, some

1217
01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:12.359
<v Speaker 3>with other evangelists, and we would have healing services. And

1218
01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:17.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, particularly when you have someone you know, an

1219
01:25:17.399 --> 01:25:20.560
<v Speaker 3>evangelist that's coming through, you know there's this number I

1220
01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:26.840
<v Speaker 3>can mention. But so with Kenneth Copeland Crusades Saturday morning

1221
01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:31.159
<v Speaker 3>was healing school. And I could tell you, Chris, people

1222
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:37.560
<v Speaker 3>with cancer, I mean, every disease you can imagine. If

1223
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:41.159
<v Speaker 3>you ever were at an Earl Roberts camp meeting, you'd

1224
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:45.560
<v Speaker 3>see this. And I was the thing that the reason

1225
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:49.159
<v Speaker 3>why those people got healed wasn't the fact that it

1226
01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:51.399
<v Speaker 3>was in the name of Jesus, wasn't the fact of

1227
01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>the guy laying hands on you. It was that those

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01:25:54.720 --> 01:26:01.119
<v Speaker 3>people came ready to receive their faith is all ready

1229
01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:05.079
<v Speaker 3>as far as they were concerned, All they needed was

1230
01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:07.640
<v Speaker 3>that point of contact and they were gonna get healed.

1231
01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:11.920
<v Speaker 3>It was already a foregone conclusion. That you could have

1232
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:16.039
<v Speaker 3>had Mickey Mouse up there and it would have produced

1233
01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:21.079
<v Speaker 3>the same results. That's the amazing thing we have about

1234
01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:26.439
<v Speaker 3>these bodies. This bind, this brain, this mind can heal

1235
01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:30.600
<v Speaker 3>these bodies. So you're right, they don't want people to

1236
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:30.920
<v Speaker 3>know that.

1237
01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>No, And then the saddest part is the doctors are

1238
01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>ruled by the pharmaceutical companies and you know you can't

1239
01:26:40.119 --> 01:26:42.439
<v Speaker 1>get there. They're not gonna stand up for which right.

1240
01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>So unfortunately you have to do your own research and

1241
01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:49.479
<v Speaker 1>heal yourself because you can't. You know, you can't expect

1242
01:26:49.479 --> 01:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the doctor to do it because every doctor, at least

1243
01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:55.039
<v Speaker 1>I've come across, seems to be corrupt.

1244
01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Seven out of ten of Americans are on a prescription.

1245
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Out of ten. We have so many antidepressants, antipsychotic antidepressants

1246
01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:12.439
<v Speaker 3>that our population has been prescribed, that we've contaminated the

1247
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:16.600
<v Speaker 3>drinking water. We have so much estrogen that we've put

1248
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:20.239
<v Speaker 3>into these prescriptions as well. Now here's the strange thing

1249
01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:22.680
<v Speaker 3>that you don't people don't stop and think about. Every

1250
01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>pill that you take is a chemical compound design to

1251
01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:38.479
<v Speaker 3>alter the natural enzymes, acids that you have, proteins in

1252
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:43.840
<v Speaker 3>your body. Now I find it interesting that when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the mentally insane, that what they have found

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<v Speaker 3>is by altering chemical balances within the brain itself that

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<v Speaker 3>it shuts down what I call these portals, the voices,

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01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:07.960
<v Speaker 3>the you know, the odd physical behavior, et cetera. No

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<v Speaker 3>different than the healing services. It's the same principle.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think that it could be possible that people

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01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that we're hearing voices, you know, it may not mean

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<v Speaker 1>that they're necessarily crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>But these no no i contend to bise minimal mind.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great book to read. By the way, this

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<v Speaker 3>guy's whole theory was this, if spirits exist, then their

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01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:50.399
<v Speaker 3>existence is only a minute variation of energy, internal time plan,

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<v Speaker 3>You and I, everyone else in this reality. The one

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01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:56.520
<v Speaker 3>thing that we do have common, it's almost like we've

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01:28:56.560 --> 01:29:00.840
<v Speaker 3>been tagged, is that we all generate this same time

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01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:05.920
<v Speaker 3>code frequency. It's what causes us to exist here. Now

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01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you alter that time code forward or backward, speed it up,

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01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:19.239
<v Speaker 3>slow it down, you phase out of this reality. Now

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<v Speaker 3>that gets into a very interesting thing. Then if one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite philosophers of the first century was Philo Filo,

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<v Speaker 3>in his writings of Moses and the Cosmos, wrote that

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<v Speaker 3>God is a god of creation, it's not a god

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<v Speaker 3>of waste. And that if there is a god that

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<v Speaker 3>is creating all the time, there cannot be one space,

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01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:50.720
<v Speaker 3>as he said, one cubit that would not have a

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01:29:50.840 --> 01:30:00.359
<v Speaker 3>life form in it. The Indians Native Americans believe that

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<v Speaker 3>the trees have spirits. In fact, many cultures do that

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01:30:05.359 --> 01:30:12.399
<v Speaker 3>spirits and habit forced. We can just go on and on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I contend this does happen. It is real. Uh

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<v Speaker 3>As I've been teaching people on sigils, Chris, we live

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<v Speaker 3>in a world of sigils. Every car manufacturer has a

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01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:29.359
<v Speaker 3>sigil on it, every corporation has a sigil, every government

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01:30:29.439 --> 01:30:35.359
<v Speaker 3>has a sigil, every religion has a sigil. And I

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<v Speaker 3>I'm becoming more aware we really do live in Alice

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<v Speaker 3>in Wonderland. We live in a world of magic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all hidden in plain sight. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've noticed, but I've noticed a lot more TV shows,

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01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:59.119
<v Speaker 1>movies a cult based. They're they're they're pushing witchcraft. Uh more,

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01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:02.159
<v Speaker 1>occult shows like that. I've noticed that a lot lately.

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01:31:02.960 --> 01:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's some sort of preparation, but

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01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:09.039
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of other stuff going on too that

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01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to talk about. But have you noticed that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I tell you this. There is an article out

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01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:21.479
<v Speaker 3>today that said that more people are replacing God with

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01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:29.960
<v Speaker 3>et with aliens. Now, that is very interesting, And the

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01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:33.800
<v Speaker 3>problem is is that the religions themselves are their worst enemies.

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01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:38.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, I tell people, you know why I left Christianity.

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01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:43.520
<v Speaker 3>It failed the background check. I put the resume and

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01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>started looking at the references. They weren't matching up. And

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01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:51.319
<v Speaker 3>that's the problem. It's framed. It's just like the pope

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01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:57.560
<v Speaker 3>today changes the Lord's prayer. Yeah, of that, I don't

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01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:00.279
<v Speaker 3>know what's the matter of pope? Two thousand year years

1305
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:03.119
<v Speaker 3>isn't enough to figure it out that Oh, now we're

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01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:06.840
<v Speaker 3>going to get the real intent. Well then what the

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01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:11.319
<v Speaker 3>hell have we been reading? And why? Because they screwed up?

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<v Speaker 3>And Chris, here's the thing what Christians don't realize. I

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01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:19.000
<v Speaker 3>never realized there were four other gods they tried in

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01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Christianity in the early days, really Bacchus, Dianaeus, and one

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01:32:26.319 --> 01:32:33.359
<v Speaker 3>other god. They failed. It didn't have anything. The problem

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01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:37.279
<v Speaker 3>was just like we now discovered, well, there's two different

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01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:41.399
<v Speaker 3>gods here that you're talking about. You know, you got

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01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:44.079
<v Speaker 3>this one that God that says he's jealous and vengeful.

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01:32:44.439 --> 01:32:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Now you got this one with this cat walking around

1316
01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:50.800
<v Speaker 3>saying that he represents the Father. Well, you know, the

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01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:54.319
<v Speaker 3>Father was never part of Judaism. So where the hell

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01:32:54.359 --> 01:32:56.800
<v Speaker 3>did Father come from? You know where it came from.

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01:32:56.880 --> 01:32:59.720
<v Speaker 3>It came from gnosticism, It came from the hell in

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01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:04.880
<v Speaker 3>this influences and take baptism. Where did baptism ever become

1321
01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:07.720
<v Speaker 3>part of Judaism? Then you're telling me you're opening the

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01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.479
<v Speaker 3>story with some guy called John the Baptist. You know

1323
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:13.239
<v Speaker 3>what they would have done with him, They just stone him.

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01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:21.039
<v Speaker 3>He would have been considered a heretic calling Godfather. There's

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01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:26.960
<v Speaker 3>no such thing in the Judaic mindframe. But we bought it,

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01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:32.479
<v Speaker 3>and all it's done is separate us. It's caused more

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01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:37.079
<v Speaker 3>people to die. You know, you said something earlier when

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<v Speaker 3>we started on this. If we didn't have religion, I

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01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:45.680
<v Speaker 3>dare say that man would be far more advanced in

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01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:49.960
<v Speaker 3>his consciousness of development than what we could ever begin.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that we would have breaken the need for

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01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:56.479
<v Speaker 3>what I call the spoken language.

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<v Speaker 1>It does seem that we had a much more effective

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01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:06.039
<v Speaker 1>way of communicating through symbols in ancient times because they

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01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>could hold so many different meanings if you knew how

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01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:10.479
<v Speaker 1>to look at it in the right way.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris spot On, you know, as I as I've done

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01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:20.560
<v Speaker 3>my study and you start studying in Kabbalaistic mythology on

1339
01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:26.439
<v Speaker 3>the Judaism side, Moses, do you know what the true

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01:34:26.520 --> 01:34:37.720
<v Speaker 3>what Moses literally translates magi magician. So Moses, which is

1341
01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:45.159
<v Speaker 3>moshi means magician. Well, if you follow the story, well

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01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:48.399
<v Speaker 3>that would make sense if he was considered to be

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01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Pharaoh's son. He would have been, and he went into

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01:34:52.720 --> 01:34:56.319
<v Speaker 3>what we would call the ministry, the temple priest. He

1345
01:34:56.600 --> 01:35:03.359
<v Speaker 3>learned the ancient Nolg we call it magic. They say

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01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:09.880
<v Speaker 3>that what most she did with Abenezer was that they

1347
01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:15.000
<v Speaker 3>were able to open up portals by rearranging the sigels

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01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:22.600
<v Speaker 3>of a certain language and by placing these siduals in

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01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:26.600
<v Speaker 3>a certain way. It invoked these spirits. Now, there is

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01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:31.119
<v Speaker 3>one theory that says out there that that's exactly what Tutmos,

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01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>who would have been in fact Pharaoh's son, the half son,

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01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:42.560
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what he did. That what he stole from

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01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Pharaoh's temple was the most powerful of the ability to

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01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:55.399
<v Speaker 3>pull in manifestations of deities from different planes, and it

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01:35:55.479 --> 01:36:00.680
<v Speaker 3>is said that this deity that Tutmos Moses hauled out

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01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:04.479
<v Speaker 3>is what we get the story of the crossing of

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01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:10.359
<v Speaker 3>the Red Sea, et cetera, et cetera. Very interesting, oh, fascinating,

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01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:13.159
<v Speaker 3>and you know there's another one out there. I did

1359
01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:16.199
<v Speaker 3>this on the Kibob and in what you when you

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01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:21.880
<v Speaker 3>really begin to read, what the the the records that exist,

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01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:27.760
<v Speaker 3>This god, this Hubrek god, is an alien. The key

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<v Speaker 3>Bob was its spaceship. Moses was more fascinating with the

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01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:39.039
<v Speaker 3>spaceship than the deity. He also, Moses apparently also got contaminated,

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01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:43.640
<v Speaker 3>uh with radiation by being too close to this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a fascinating story.

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<v Speaker 1>So all that being said, for the last few minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you see humanity going? You know, some see uh,

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01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, a mass awakening happening. According to the Yuga cycles,

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01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:03.159
<v Speaker 1>we're in a we're in an up cycle towards you

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01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:08.159
<v Speaker 1>a golden age. Some think that we're doomed, that we're

1371
01:37:08.279 --> 01:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>just gonna be so dumb down and destroyed by the

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01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere and the food and water that we have no

1373
01:37:17.079 --> 01:37:21.159
<v Speaker 1>hope and will just be eventually robot slaves. And then

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01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>there's the aspect of the planetary changes that we're seeing.

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01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I saw an article today in mainstream news

1376
01:37:27.760 --> 01:37:31.119
<v Speaker 1>estimating that humanity only has about twenty five years left

1377
01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>if we don't make changes to what they're calling, of course,

1378
01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:37.079
<v Speaker 1>quote climate change. But I mean, where do you see

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01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:39.439
<v Speaker 1>it all going? Do you think we have a chance?

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<v Speaker 3>Tath that you said that, because I was getting material

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01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:46.640
<v Speaker 3>for the Steiger perspective. Yes, I pulled out two of

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01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:51.079
<v Speaker 3>DVDs in my library, number one remembering the end of

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01:37:51.119 --> 01:37:54.399
<v Speaker 3>the world. It's already happened. From the Golden Age that

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01:37:54.439 --> 01:37:58.840
<v Speaker 3>you talked about, and again the ancient cities of the

1385
01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:03.520
<v Speaker 3>gods that we have recorded. We know that our ancestors

1386
01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:07.600
<v Speaker 3>saw Saturn in the nighttime sky, that it actually was

1387
01:38:07.640 --> 01:38:12.720
<v Speaker 3>called the Golden Light. I'll just be can't another short

1388
01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:16.079
<v Speaker 3>time we have here? I think we are truly at

1389
01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:21.720
<v Speaker 3>a crossroads. Transhumanism is advancing at such a rate. I

1390
01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:24.880
<v Speaker 3>am more alarmed by that than anything else. I am

1391
01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:30.399
<v Speaker 3>seeing the potential totalitarian crackdown on a level that we

1392
01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:34.039
<v Speaker 3>haven't seen. All the indicators in the bond markets in

1393
01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:39.840
<v Speaker 3>the future markets are pointing to something disastrous coming. I

1394
01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:44.159
<v Speaker 3>mean something a big shock. I don't like what I

1395
01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:48.600
<v Speaker 3>see putin and zing over there making a pact of

1396
01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:51.920
<v Speaker 3>what's going on. What they're saying is that Iran in

1397
01:38:51.960 --> 01:38:56.119
<v Speaker 3>the next six months will have a nuclear weapon. When

1398
01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:59.960
<v Speaker 3>you see that the tech titans are pushing for immortalent

1399
01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:09.800
<v Speaker 3>and pushing their despots, displayty and idea of their Vanna No, Chris,

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01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:12.159
<v Speaker 3>I think that we are. I think there's going to

1401
01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:16.800
<v Speaker 3>be a small amount of us that escape because it's overwhelming.

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01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:20.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, we have the millennials, we have the Generation z's,

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01:39:21.199 --> 01:39:23.159
<v Speaker 3>and now the new ones coming in which I don't

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01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:27.439
<v Speaker 3>even know what they're called yet. But the Generation z's.

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01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>They're they're they're they're trapped.

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01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Their their minds are gone. They spend more time on

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01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:37.600
<v Speaker 3>their black mirror devices than they do anything else. They

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01:39:37.640 --> 01:39:41.159
<v Speaker 3>can't think, they can't remember, they can't do any more

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01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:44.039
<v Speaker 3>than what their phone or the latest social media has

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01:39:44.079 --> 01:39:46.920
<v Speaker 3>them doing. This is alarming.

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01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>We see going to one else's alarming. I had I

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01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>think three videos removed between today and yesterday for community guidelines.

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01:39:59.279 --> 01:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>They had to do with nine to eleven false flags.

1414
01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I interviewed ole A Domaguard, doctor Fetzer. Those are all

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01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:11.760
<v Speaker 1>gone now because of this new wave of censorship. It's

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01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:15.800
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to shut everybody up. They don't want any

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01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:19.520
<v Speaker 1>information about anything that they don't you know, they don't

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01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>control the narrative getting out.

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01:40:21.439 --> 01:40:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I'm I started being shadow band about

1420
01:40:27.319 --> 01:40:31.359
<v Speaker 3>three months ago. My channel was growing, you know, fifteen

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01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:36.399
<v Speaker 3>hundred two thousand a month, explosive, and now it's regressing.

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01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:42.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting audits of supposed now of subscribers that they're

1423
01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:47.119
<v Speaker 3>telling me that they're auditing my account, and suddenly thousands

1424
01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:52.479
<v Speaker 3>of subscribers are gone. Yeah, this is scary. And I'm

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01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:54.920
<v Speaker 3>just teaching philosophy magic.

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01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you would think the things that they're censoring.

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01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:03.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's got to be something to it if

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01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:06.039
<v Speaker 1>they don't want us to hear it or see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can tell you this, I know from talking

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01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:16.159
<v Speaker 3>to some congress people. Yeah, let them keep on doing this.

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01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:22.600
<v Speaker 3>There is there is such a backlash forming now with

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01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:27.359
<v Speaker 3>both sides, Democrats and Republicans. This is the type of

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01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:31.399
<v Speaker 3>stuff that is making the Democrats afraid because if you

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01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:36.000
<v Speaker 3>see Google now beginning to put this listen, let's just

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01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:40.520
<v Speaker 3>call it what it is. It's fascism. It's not socialism,

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01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:42.640
<v Speaker 3>it's not communism. This is fascist.

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01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:44.079
<v Speaker 1>It's a modern day book burning.

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01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:48.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's exactly what. It is, no different than taking

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01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:51.039
<v Speaker 3>the witches out and burning them at the state, burning

1440
01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:54.840
<v Speaker 3>the books, throwing them in the river and Constantinople. But

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01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:59.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, this is what tell me, it's this not dictorialship.

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01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Every person around the world should be very, very alarmed

1443
01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:09.000
<v Speaker 3>by this. And so, answering your question, this is the

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01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:14.640
<v Speaker 3>thing I'm not liking. I mean, I know, I try

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01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:17.640
<v Speaker 3>to be as positive as I can, and I try

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01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:18.880
<v Speaker 3>to edify people, but.

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01:42:20.720 --> 01:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's it's just such an enormous force that

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01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:25.359
<v Speaker 1>happens to.

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<v Speaker 3>My concern is is that it's going to be something

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01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:35.640
<v Speaker 3>small that's going to start the spark. And I think

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01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:38.760
<v Speaker 3>we're going to you know, you look at the corn futures.

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01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:41.680
<v Speaker 3>I've been saying this now for the last two months.

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01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:48.199
<v Speaker 3>Wait till the spike and prices hit this fall. Uh,

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01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:51.680
<v Speaker 3>this is going to get crazy. That the balance of

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<v Speaker 3>what it takes to feed the world and what we're

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<v Speaker 3>producing now China in their bread basket, they're being hit hard.

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<v Speaker 3>All the bread basket sits around the world seem to

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<v Speaker 3>be I don't know, or ironically being affected by weather.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have give you the number you have. You

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<v Speaker 3>basically needs forty seven billion metric tons to feed the world.

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<v Speaker 3>This harvest this year is projected to be at forty

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<v Speaker 3>two so we have reserves. Yes, but remember this is

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<v Speaker 3>almost looking like Joseph in the Seven Years and I

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01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:38.000
<v Speaker 3>hear I spent the whole hour just ding in the

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01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:40.720
<v Speaker 3>whole Old Testament, you know. But hey, some of those stories,

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01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:44.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, you got to walk away and go, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to say. It looks familiar, doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>it right?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that all being said, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing we can do, you know, those of us

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01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>that are aware in a week, be good to ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>make the change in ourselves we need to see. Be

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<v Speaker 1>good to everyone else. Be the best person you can be,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, make your voices heard. If if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like something, express it. Don't just sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>let things happen.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if more people stood up against some of

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<v Speaker 1>this tyranny, that it would it would be may do something.

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<v Speaker 1>But no one's standing up except for the few of

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<v Speaker 1>us that already are.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. I've had people say well, you know, Google has

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<v Speaker 3>the right to anything that No, No, that's where you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>If Google was a private company, that'd be a different story.

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<v Speaker 3>But Google is a publicly traded company. They took money

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<v Speaker 3>from the public markets. That gives them an obligation to

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<v Speaker 3>the United States, to its citizens to uphold the laws.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is blatant censorship that they're doing, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to get smacked. Listen. I think they're going to

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01:44:56.199 --> 01:45:00.319
<v Speaker 3>be filed in the Justice Department for antitrust and time

1491
01:45:00.640 --> 01:45:04.439
<v Speaker 3>monopolizing of data. I think you're going to see sweeping

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01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:09.960
<v Speaker 3>indictments coming down to many of these CEOs, and Zuckerberg

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01:45:10.079 --> 01:45:11.640
<v Speaker 3>is won. I'm going to tell you what. I'm hearing

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01:45:11.680 --> 01:45:15.039
<v Speaker 3>stories in the Justice Department that Cat is going to

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01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:20.239
<v Speaker 3>be indicted. And I've understood as well. Canada is thinking

1496
01:45:20.239 --> 01:45:23.399
<v Speaker 3>about the same thing, so as Britain. He's basically given

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01:45:23.479 --> 01:45:26.920
<v Speaker 3>him all the finger, you know, And this is the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think there may be a day of justice. Yet,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris and watch Us be banned. This will probably be banned.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be the show that does it.

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<v Speaker 3>For both of them. Exactly. They were a good channel

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01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:43.479
<v Speaker 3>there at one time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was at least it was a good show,

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01:45:46.000 --> 01:45:46.479
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's true. It's true. It's it's and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. You know, I'm not a trunk supporter

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01:45:56.760 --> 01:45:59.600
<v Speaker 3>or a hater. You know. Listen, I didn't like the

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01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:01.960
<v Speaker 3>last guy that was in there. I didn't like the

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01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:04.800
<v Speaker 3>guy that was in there before. So you know, you

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01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:07.199
<v Speaker 3>kind of just get used to this, you know, it's

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01:46:07.279 --> 01:46:11.119
<v Speaker 3>just a different face me. Yeah, And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thinking to myself, you know, I play chess, I love strategy,

1513
01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:21.600
<v Speaker 3>and I know something about the art of war. And

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01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:24.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe you know, they listen to my radio show. I

1515
01:46:24.840 --> 01:46:26.960
<v Speaker 3>know there's some congress people that listen. I'm going to

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01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.439
<v Speaker 3>tell them, you know, you don't push your opponent into

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01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:34.640
<v Speaker 3>a corner because when you push your opponent into a corner,

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01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:39.439
<v Speaker 3>they no longer have any options. And that's when they

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01:46:39.479 --> 01:46:45.239
<v Speaker 3>have no longer any options, it gets dangerous. I'll leave

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<v Speaker 3>it at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very well, said Wayne. Thank you so much. That

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<v Speaker 1>was christ And of course you're gonna have to come

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01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>back on. You're probably the on the leader board right

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01:46:57.760 --> 01:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>now as it comes to return guests.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you. It's an honor, Chris, I enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I love your mind. It's it's open, it's a

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01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:11.720
<v Speaker 3>free mind, and that's what it's going to take, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the agility. I was thinking earlier, back in the day,

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<v Speaker 3>I was in ROTC and the drill sarck shit we had.

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01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I still remember the Cat Collins and I can remember

1531
01:47:26.279 --> 01:47:29.720
<v Speaker 3>him telling us and we were just we were just kids,

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01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, ro OTC. You know, I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Vietnam. And he said, the key to survival

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<v Speaker 3>is flexibility, adapting to the situation. That's what freethinkers do.

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01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:51.600
<v Speaker 3>They adapt to the situation. Yeah, and you're a great freethinker, Chris,

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<v Speaker 3>you really are. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Wayne. I appreciate that and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to the next one.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it, my friend. Absolutely well. You have a

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<v Speaker 3>great knife. All right, Thank you, Chris, Bye bye,