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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome to the show. It's Andy Pitcher
Speaker 2: for the new setup of Horizon Talk Radio. Today. We've
Speaker 2: got an excellent guest, Fast Rogero. He's got a book
Speaker 2: and it's on Amazon, and we'll get into that in
Speaker 2: a second. I'll just read a quick bio. It's it's
Speaker 2: Foost So first, a Ragio professional career spans the most
Speaker 2: forty years, is diversified and compelling, and it has consistently
Speaker 2: established an exciting cut and edge counseling programs in its
Speaker 2: pursuit of professional excellent and the personal life enhancement is published,
Speaker 2: researched or for clinical training and the therapist. He's worked
Speaker 2: in settings that have included clinics for deaf children, prisons
Speaker 2: and nurse and homes, substance aboose centers, impatient facilities, and
Speaker 2: as the president of the Community Psychological Center and Banger, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: In that capacity, developed the processed way of life counseling
Speaker 2: program has developed it into a formal text presented book
Speaker 2: called Fix Yourself Handbook, and it says, on radio guest
Speaker 2: list help your listeners become strong enough to live in
Speaker 2: the new normal. Wellder the COVID nineteen virus. So let's
Speaker 2: see how COVID and fixing yourself sort of all comes
Speaker 2: into the handbook. You know, to Fix Yourself Handbook. Welcome
Speaker 2: to the show. Forced This isn't my best area of expertise,
Speaker 2: but I do know that you know, through spiritual and
Speaker 2: sort of empowering yourself. I mean I kind of describe
Speaker 2: it as a bit like you're praying, but you're not
Speaker 2: kind of praying. You may be hoping for something better
Speaker 2: to happen, but if you don't spare yourself on. I
Speaker 2: know sometimes people are rock button, especially if they're in
Speaker 2: prison or they've got health problems. You rock bottom, But
Speaker 2: I think it's that spirit you need to get you
Speaker 2: through this. I won't carry on, but I'll be there
Speaker 2: for questions. Just tell us a bit about yourself and
Speaker 2: then a bit about the book, and we'll see where
Speaker 2: that takes us.
Speaker 3: Great Andy, thanks for inviting me on and as far
Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, I've been counseling for about four decades,
Speaker 3: all different kinds of settings. So I've been in private
Speaker 3: practice now for about thirty years, and everything from individual, family, marriage,
Speaker 3: substance abuse, all that kind of stuff. And the last year,
Speaker 3: like everyone else, we've been dealing with the effects of
Speaker 3: the of the COVID virus and isolation and depression and
Speaker 3: alcoholism and all those things that are that are that
Speaker 3: are cropping up because of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. In one of your bits I've read, I
Speaker 2: think I agree that most people that I'll explain it
Speaker 2: in a different way. Yeah, most people do this. They
Speaker 2: get them in the morning. What's the time, I'm running late,
Speaker 2: the kids got to go to school. I'm running to
Speaker 2: the bus stop or the taxi rank or getting in
Speaker 2: my car and there's traffic on the highway and it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's not not letting me through, and you
Speaker 2: know they're forever pressuring themselves and they need to slow down, basically,
Speaker 2: don't they, Because yeah, it just makes sense.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the first thing I tell everyone to do
Speaker 3: is slow down a little. But you're not going to
Speaker 3: make any changes, and you're not even going to be
Speaker 3: able to think about making changes until you slow down
Speaker 3: and let your brain do some you know, let it,
Speaker 3: let it do what it's supposed to do.
Speaker 2: And of course, you know, if you've got any problems,
Speaker 2: you do need to be brutally honest with yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the you know, those are the things
Speaker 3: I talk about in the beginning of the book. Slow
Speaker 3: down a bit so you can understand what's going on
Speaker 3: around you, take life off autopilot, stop just doing the
Speaker 3: same thing over and over again, and then ask yourself
Speaker 3: what's not working, what needs to change in your life,
Speaker 3: how you can make things better. And that requires a
Speaker 3: lot of honesty in people. You know, we don't always
Speaker 3: like to be honest. We like to be comfortable. We
Speaker 3: have to be protected. But you know, you be honest
Speaker 3: with yourself, then you get the rate in information about
Speaker 3: what has to change. Then you can go from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess a lot of people when it comes
Speaker 2: to these problems. Just another point at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the book, people's emotions get involved, I think as well,
Speaker 2: too much, because I mean, if you've got like a
Speaker 2: health problem and you know you don't know how to
Speaker 2: deal with it. The first thing you're going to think
Speaker 2: of is the pain or I'm not going to make it,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's going to get in the way
Speaker 2: of actually thinking about the positive side of that way.
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, I might get an operation, I might
Speaker 2: get better and yeah, So emotion versus thought is going
Speaker 2: to be a big problem for a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Well, I talk about that all time in the book
Speaker 3: and all the counseling I do. People get emotional and
Speaker 3: then they start reacting and then they stop thinking. And
Speaker 3: you know, with whatever you're going to do in life,
Speaker 3: if you have to have a plan for it, so
Speaker 3: you just make things work out. And if you're emotional,
Speaker 3: then you're reacting to things and it's hard to gather
Speaker 3: all the right facts. So I just tell people you
Speaker 3: can get your emotions into it later, but get your
Speaker 3: emotions into it based on the facts. Get the facts first,
Speaker 3: have a plan to move forward. And that's what my
Speaker 3: people did through the virus. I said, Okay, let's take
Speaker 3: our emotions out of it, stop worrying about things. Let's
Speaker 3: get a plan to get you moving forward. And those
Speaker 3: that did that came through this fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of this when you're going through
Speaker 2: that you know. I mean it's the fears of problem
Speaker 2: as well, and the anger, you know, because you wouldn't minute.
Speaker 2: You're beating yourself up because you know, you think it's
Speaker 2: your own fault, don't you. So that's part of the
Speaker 2: emotions feeling anger, I guess.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know. And uh again I've been telling people
Speaker 3: for years, stop worrying about it. You know, the hardest
Speaker 3: part of going in anything that seems difficult is worrying about, uh,
Speaker 3: what's going to happen before you get there. Once we're
Speaker 3: in it, once you're stuck in it, then you're then
Speaker 3: you have to go into action. People then start doing
Speaker 3: what they have to do, but it's all this worry
Speaker 3: about it before time, and that almost paralyzes you. You
Speaker 3: start thinking about what could possibly happen, and how it
Speaker 3: could go wrong, and what you're going to lose, all
Speaker 3: those kinds of things, and then before you know it,
Speaker 3: you stop doing anything because you're so uh taken taken
Speaker 3: up by your worry. It's just you know, again, have
Speaker 3: a plan, go slow, think about what you're doing, uh,
Speaker 3: and then you know, gradually look at take it one
Speaker 3: step at a time, and then work your plan.
Speaker 2: So well, Uh, what's the word. What would you say
Speaker 2: to people? Then from sort of the you know, obviously
Speaker 2: we've gone for the early bits of it, which is,
Speaker 2: you know, don't worry, get the facts and all that
Speaker 2: and make a plan. What's the next step after that.
Speaker 3: Well, what we're going to do now is we're coming
Speaker 3: through hopefully we're coming through this virus. The the antidotes
Speaker 3: are out the virus. You know, the shots are there.
Speaker 3: We're going to hopefully cure people of this. Then it's rebuilding.
Speaker 3: Then it's getting back out there and being social again.
Speaker 3: It's taking care of finances and whatever else you weren't
Speaker 3: being able to you weren't able to take care of.
Speaker 3: For some people, it's going to be dealing with physical problems.
Speaker 3: But again, it's just like going through the virus. If you,
Speaker 3: I keep telling people, try to talk to yourself using
Speaker 3: positive language. This is a hard thing that we went through.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem very positive. But in order to move forward,
Speaker 3: and it's just what you said, if you're having the surgery,
Speaker 3: you've got to be thinking of what you're capable of doing.
Speaker 3: Take it one step at a time and will you
Speaker 3: will rebuild your life. But if you keep thinking negative
Speaker 3: and talking negative, then that's the way you're going to
Speaker 3: you're gonna behave well.
Speaker 2: On an example, for the Corona virus. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm I've been doing radio on Freedom Talk Radio. Well
Speaker 2: just change the name. Actually that's what it's a new platform.
Speaker 2: But I was helping people in different mental health hospitals, prisons,
Speaker 2: just to kind of give them a voice, inspire them
Speaker 2: to talk out. But so I was kind of really
Speaker 2: strong and well learned in different aspects of that kind
Speaker 2: of life. But you know, when this out of the
Speaker 2: blue bomb hit us, this coronavirus, I was as weakened
Speaker 2: as petrified March last year, twenty twenty as anybody was.
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is these shocks can hit the
Speaker 2: strongest people or the weakest. They don't, you know, define
Speaker 2: who you are. And I'm telling you, you know, last year,
Speaker 2: for four weeks, I must have walked around like a zombie.
Speaker 2: You know, shock a bit like an accident where you've
Speaker 2: seen something terrible or you know something's gone really wrong.
Speaker 2: And for four weeks, I don't know what we did.
Speaker 2: I don't know how we got through the four weeks.
Speaker 2: But then what we had to do and we'll say,
Speaker 2: well they're talking about testing trace, that must be a
Speaker 2: good thing. Then they talk about something else, and then
Speaker 2: it turned into vaccines maybe on the horizon. And so
Speaker 2: a little bit by little bit, step by step, you
Speaker 2: had to give yourself hotly stressful all this. You really
Speaker 2: do have to give yourself hope and small steps for sure.
Speaker 3: Well you do, and you try not to listen to
Speaker 3: negative things. I mean, if you're going to listen to
Speaker 3: the media, then you want to learn, try to let
Speaker 3: what the facts are, what's the CDC saying, what's the
Speaker 3: World Health organ to say, and saying what are the
Speaker 3: good things you can do to help move this forward.
Speaker 3: But if you're going to follow the shock media and
Speaker 3: all those people that love to you know, bring the
Speaker 3: drama along, because people get hooked into that and they
Speaker 3: get obsessed hearing that those people are going to lead
Speaker 3: you in the wrong direction. You know, I've been telling people,
Speaker 3: you know, turn the televisions off when it comes to
Speaker 3: the virus. Turn you know, the radio is off unless
Speaker 3: you're listening to something like we're doing right now where
Speaker 3: you're going to push it. Where we're trying to push
Speaker 3: people forward. We're trying to give them a little bit
Speaker 3: of hope, but to you know, keep reporting deaths, and
Speaker 3: we keep reporting that this isn't going to happen, and
Speaker 3: we don't you know, there's going to be a collapse
Speaker 3: of this, and you know, we don't even know any
Speaker 3: of that. Later, you know, what we know is things
Speaker 3: are going to be redefined, and you know the world
Speaker 3: has been through this kind of stuff before, and we'll come.
Speaker 2: When I was younger, I was very, very nervous to
Speaker 2: take that vaccine, the first one to the second one
Speaker 2: in two weeks. And how I got myself when it
Speaker 2: was a day before it starts. You started thinking, wearing, sweating,
Speaker 2: what if. And even on the day when they first
Speaker 2: give you the shot, your body feels cold inside and
Speaker 2: you started just for a few seconds. It's a bit
Speaker 2: like when they give you some doctors give you medicines
Speaker 2: to do something to your heart, and it really feels
Speaker 2: like that. But you know, five minutes later after sitting down, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: I had no side effects whatsoever. And I'm unhealthy. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, I'm not as healthy
Speaker 2: as most people. So I'm unhealthy. And there was no
Speaker 2: problem with the fires of acting whatsoever. So people need
Speaker 2: to do exactly what you say and what the book says.
Speaker 2: You know, fix yourself really, isn't it.
Speaker 3: You just got to follow the fact, you know. You
Speaker 3: know a lot of these side effects are really that's
Speaker 3: telling your body that you're healthy. The body is trying
Speaker 3: to fight off a foreign substance, which is what the
Speaker 3: body's supposed to do. Once the body gets used to
Speaker 3: it and understands that it's in there to do its job,
Speaker 3: then the body will stop trying to fight it. And
Speaker 3: that's what we're finding a lot with that second dose
Speaker 3: of the of the Maderna vaccine. So you know, again
Speaker 3: it's like you said, I've never been a guy for
Speaker 3: vaccines either. You know, why put all this stuff in
Speaker 3: your body. I don't get flu shots. I'm pretty healthy.
Speaker 3: But you know, it is a no brainer. There's a pandemic.
Speaker 3: This thing kills people, so we're going to do that,
Speaker 3: you know. But again, if it's interesting with all the
Speaker 3: people I know who took their emotions out of this
Speaker 3: and stopped reacting and stopped listening to all the negativity,
Speaker 3: their lives, they said didn't change that much. Okay, they
Speaker 3: had to stay home, but it wasn't like they put
Speaker 3: him in a hospital or a prison. They were in
Speaker 3: their own homes where everything that they want is their
Speaker 3: families were there, you know. So I mean you can
Speaker 3: still go out, you have to wear a mask, you
Speaker 3: can't gather in places, but it's not like you're in
Speaker 3: a prison. We're just not looking at the positive parts
Speaker 3: of this. What we did is to try to stay
Speaker 3: healthy and stay alive, and we'll come through this. Like
Speaker 3: you said, you hopefully come off lockdown in April. We're
Speaker 3: just you know, we went down now in Pennsylvania. Here
Speaker 3: in the United States, we're coming up a bit again because.
Speaker 2: Everyone's around there on the internet and because of a
Speaker 2: had vaccine publish. It's the early days, the worries about
Speaker 2: you know, you can't touch this from Walmart, as you
Speaker 2: can't touch this from the postman, you can't touch this
Speaker 2: from the bin collection. So we got into that habit
Speaker 2: and I don't know what you want to call it,
Speaker 2: but even now we know it's not that bad now,
Speaker 2: you know, because the facts are saying you can't get
Speaker 2: the virus from letters, and you can't get it from
Speaker 2: this and that. But we're still psychologically trapped INSI But because.
Speaker 3: Are some of the things we doing. Uhh. When our
Speaker 3: emotions get into it, we start looking at things we
Speaker 3: shouldn't look out, like in the beginning of this where
Speaker 3: someone went on the computer and all the news reports
Speaker 3: and said, you better really take care of paper products.
Speaker 3: And then we couldn't find toilet paper. Of all things.
Speaker 3: Here we are in a in a pandemic, and what
Speaker 3: people thought was important was toilet paper. That's how that's
Speaker 3: how far it can go, so you know. Uh. And
Speaker 3: then of course once they bought it all, then there
Speaker 3: was none to be had, and people were you know,
Speaker 3: trying to find something these paper products because everyone else
Speaker 3: bought them all up. That's what happens when we get emotional. Uh.
Speaker 3: You know. But when we think, and we think with
Speaker 3: the facts and we stay working as a team, things
Speaker 3: usually work out.
Speaker 2: I might be asking you a silly question that we should.
Speaker 3: For somebody the come something we don't have, and those
Speaker 3: are all just, you know, not good ways to be.
Speaker 3: I always tell people that make yourself strong, know what
Speaker 3: you want inside.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Make sure that you you're you know, your world around
Speaker 3: you is good. You like what you've created, You like
Speaker 3: the world you live in. First, like yourself.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know then that that goes into that love yourself stuff,
Speaker 3: and then you could start getting into love. But love
Speaker 3: does not have to be this emotional dance that we
Speaker 3: make it and and make ourselves crazy. You know, if
Speaker 3: you love someone, it should be a nice, simple affection
Speaker 3: and you you like to be around them. Your emotion
Speaker 3: shouldn't be dancing all over the place. You can't make decisions,
Speaker 3: you're going too fast. Your stomach feel is in knots.
Speaker 3: That's not that's not love. That's just that's just emotion
Speaker 3: taking over. And and you know when when when you
Speaker 3: really love someone, it's like you said with your wife,
Speaker 3: you put that person first and you do things for
Speaker 3: them and and and you think things through. And if
Speaker 3: you do, if you approach love like everything else I'm
Speaker 3: talking about, it's a much easier way to live. But
Speaker 3: this emotional stuff where we beat each other up and
Speaker 3: lead us. We look for someone that's uh, that has
Speaker 3: something that you know, metaphysical stuff. You know, love is
Speaker 3: really a function of the spirit inside you, not your heart,
Speaker 3: not your brain. You know, it's it's a spirit. It's
Speaker 3: it's an unconditional giving kind of a thing. And again,
Speaker 3: we we don't understand it that way. We we have
Speaker 3: this hallmark kind of a definition of love where it's
Speaker 3: it's a function of the heart. You know, again, look
Speaker 3: at the facts. The heart pumps blood. That's what the
Speaker 3: heart does. Uh, you know, the brain looks for facts.
Speaker 3: Love really comes out of medica.
Speaker 2: That's so sure. Why are we beating ourselves up? You know,
Speaker 2: why don't you get to know the person before you
Speaker 2: judge them? Kind of thing? You know, we build wolves
Speaker 2: apace if you don't want to again, you.
Speaker 3: Know, we're and we're in the begin looks like we're
Speaker 3: in the beginning of this conversation. We got to go slow.
Speaker 3: If there's any place in the world you want to
Speaker 3: go slow, it's with love. You know, get to know
Speaker 3: the person, make the person your friend first, be a
Speaker 3: friend to that person, and go slow, and everything's going
Speaker 3: to show itself. And then you're really going to see
Speaker 3: if this you and this person are a fit and
Speaker 3: if you're not, and you've gone slow, usually you can
Speaker 3: part as friends. But we go so fast because it
Speaker 3: feels so good and we can't get enough of it.
Speaker 3: And you know, in two or three weeks we've just
Speaker 3: you know, we're planning our future with this person. You know,
Speaker 3: i'd go slow, take your time, make that one part
Speaker 3: of your life, not the main part of your life.
Speaker 3: If it's going to take off and be something that
Speaker 3: you really really think is important and can work, then
Speaker 3: start putting more into it. But in the initial two
Speaker 3: or three months, take your time, go slow and think
Speaker 3: about what's going on here. Look for the red flags.
Speaker 3: If there aren't any.
Speaker 2: Great Yeah, I mean I must have known I was different.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you call it lucky, do
Speaker 2: you call it compatible? But I don't know. I met
Speaker 2: my wife in ninety one in October. It was my
Speaker 2: birth stay in the late part of October ninety one.
Speaker 2: We married in February ninety two, twenty six, and March
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. She's another room. So yeah, we rushed it,
Speaker 2: but I think her hearts took over her head to
Speaker 2: start with. And then you know, you get married, reality
Speaker 2: sets in and you know, I don't really know you
Speaker 2: do a hang. I just married you, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's but that was kind of fun because your heart
Speaker 2: taken over for me anyway was good. It was That
Speaker 2: was the best part of it. And then getting to
Speaker 2: know people. I suppose wasn't as good to start with,
Speaker 2: but then, yeah, you get more for life anyway, don't you.
Speaker 3: You're doing it even if you go slow, you still
Speaker 3: have all the time in the world for the excitement
Speaker 3: and all that stuff of the heart. And then you
Speaker 3: know you're doing it with the person. And for some
Speaker 3: people it's going to take a couple of years. Some
Speaker 3: people may go be able to do that as you have.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know, I for me, I like
Speaker 3: to go a little slower, and my wife and I
Speaker 3: took our time, and you know, and now it's you know,
Speaker 3: we've been you know, we're together all these years and
Speaker 3: it's still a romance. It's still I still look forward
Speaker 3: to going, you know, leaving the office and going home
Speaker 3: and being with her. So when you can have that
Speaker 3: longevity and it feels good all the time, well that's
Speaker 3: a real nice way to live life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we first met, I mean this might sound silly,
Speaker 2: but this was our way of doing it. Even though
Speaker 2: we didn't have children. For seven years, we had many
Speaker 2: holidays or breaks away from each other even though we
Speaker 2: were married. I know it sounds silly to most, but
Speaker 2: I think people also need the space, you know, as well.
Speaker 2: As the the being togetherness and looking forward to going on.
Speaker 2: You need a better space too in the early days anyway.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you do. I think even as you're
Speaker 3: married a little while, it's nice to take an afternoon
Speaker 3: and do something separately, because when you know you miss
Speaker 3: each other, you come back and you're kind of rejuvenated
Speaker 3: and ready to go again. You know. Again, that's taking
Speaker 3: it slow. That's that's taking your time, and you do
Speaker 3: things for yourself and you do things for the relationship.
Speaker 3: I've always advised that to people, don't be with each
Speaker 3: other twenty four to seven. Uh, you know, spend a
Speaker 3: little time a part and have a few interests that
Speaker 3: you know that are your own.
Speaker 2: Okay, what have you done for other people? Then? Have
Speaker 2: we helped people in prisons and you know that kind
Speaker 2: of environment institutions?
Speaker 3: Well, I started really a nearly part of my career.
Speaker 3: I was working in a substance abuse facility just to
Speaker 3: come out of graduate school, and I got an offer
Speaker 3: to just go into the in for a few hours
Speaker 3: a week and do some interviews and help them diagnose people.
Speaker 3: So I went in and it felt good. You know,
Speaker 3: it was a place that needed people like me to
Speaker 3: be there and do something. So and I went in
Speaker 3: This is in eighty four and I stayed till eighty nine,
Speaker 3: so it was five years. And you know, the way
Speaker 3: you help people there, first of all, is just to
Speaker 3: help them understand that they're not Most of them are
Speaker 3: not bad people. You have you have your people that
Speaker 3: are just you know, they're just evil people. But for
Speaker 3: the most part, people are in prison because they made
Speaker 3: a mistake or they had a bad breaker. They just
Speaker 3: came up without the you know, the support many of
Speaker 3: us have had. So you try to get them to
Speaker 3: see that they in fact can go out there and
Speaker 3: they can go and have a good life, and that
Speaker 3: there is a good person inside them. So, you know,
Speaker 3: I spent five years doing that, and you know, very
Speaker 3: rewarding for me and for them, you know, because they
Speaker 3: someone finally said, hey, you're not bad. You don't have
Speaker 3: to be locked up. You can go out there and
Speaker 3: make something of yourself and give something back back. And
Speaker 3: people understand that that's you know, that they have the
Speaker 3: capacity to do that. It's very much life changing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine being that person that helps that.
Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine being you helping the other person I mean,
Speaker 2: I know how I'd want to help them, but I
Speaker 2: just worry that I guess that there would be too
Speaker 2: negative of the support they get in you know, how
Speaker 2: can a therapist fix my problems? You know, when I'm
Speaker 2: in prison, I've yeah, I made a mistake, I've robbed
Speaker 2: the shop, or I've whatever you've done. You know, you've
Speaker 2: got ten years in jail, something quite serious. But this
Speaker 2: man comes along and he's going to try and fix me.
Speaker 2: Is it about making that I think you've already said that. Actually,
Speaker 2: Is that about making them feel that they can can
Speaker 2: do it and they can go back into the society.
Speaker 2: Or is it about them opening up and making them
Speaker 2: selves sort of admit what they've done wrong and make
Speaker 2: them look forward to the Foodsure, and then you just
Speaker 2: you know, help them with with that rather than the yeah,
Speaker 2: do you get them to help themselves or do you
Speaker 2: help them? That's it?
Speaker 3: Well, well, you know it's actually both. You know, we've
Speaker 3: all had or may many of us have had. We
Speaker 3: can go back and say, there was that one person
Speaker 3: that came into our lives, maybe said something or did
Speaker 3: something or helped us, and that was just that one
Speaker 3: person that said, hey, you're a good person, you can
Speaker 3: make it. And it changed the way we thought about
Speaker 3: ourselves for a moment. And you know, somebody it took
Speaker 3: the time to say, hey, you're a good person.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know. So it starts there and then there, and
Speaker 3: then after they build up a little trust and you
Speaker 3: know you're seeing them a couple times a week. Uh,
Speaker 3: then they look forward to seeing you because that's the
Speaker 3: positive that they're getting in their life. And and then
Speaker 3: a lot of times they start to normalize that, they
Speaker 3: start to realize that, Okay, this could be something that
Speaker 3: I can I can do in my life, and then
Speaker 3: they start to work with it. But it's it's that
Speaker 3: initial person that said, hey, I can't be concerned with
Speaker 3: what you did. I'm going to be concerned hopefully with
Speaker 3: helping you move in a different direction. And you know,
Speaker 3: they don't get a whole lot of that. So if
Speaker 3: you can give them that in the beginning, you know,
Speaker 3: they're people. You know, that's why I look at it now.
Speaker 3: I'm not their judge and I don't intend to judge them,
Speaker 3: but if I can help them, I'll certainly try to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like some of these quotes as well that
Speaker 2: you've got in the handbook. You can be limited, limitless,
Speaker 2: but the world likes to tell you otherwise. Trust the
Speaker 2: spit inside you. I mean that one on his own
Speaker 2: is very good. I think I like the third one.
Speaker 2: Beware of using angers a tool in your life. You
Speaker 2: may get what you want, but the cost of your
Speaker 2: spirit is a high one. There's something in fact. All
Speaker 2: of them are good quotes to motivate yourself every day.
Speaker 2: Own opportunities to make changes in your life. Let go
Speaker 2: of yesterday, embrace for today, and change your life. Well
Speaker 2: it's quite simple, but when you actually read it, it
Speaker 2: feels more important.
Speaker 3: You know. I didn't want to write a book, and
Speaker 3: the book is really based upon my career as a psychologist,
Speaker 3: but I didn't want to create something new that people
Speaker 3: had to try to figure out. What I put in
Speaker 3: the book is just the things that we all can do.
Speaker 3: It's all the stuff that's really inside us. We just
Speaker 3: have to learn how to go get it and work
Speaker 3: with it. That's really all I did. Anyone in the
Speaker 3: world who reads this book can do it. It's it's
Speaker 3: it's not just written for some people. Anyone who really
Speaker 3: wants to change life and really wants to be you know,
Speaker 3: more capable, more powerful on the inside, more happy, more loving,
Speaker 3: all those things. Can do all these things because what
Speaker 3: I've done at the end of each chapter, the thirty
Speaker 3: six chapters, and at the end of each one, I've
Speaker 3: given the exact steps that we can take to change
Speaker 3: to make the changes. So and I think that's what
Speaker 3: was missing in the literature. You know, you get a
Speaker 3: whole lot of things like love yourself, and then people say, well,
Speaker 3: how do I do that? Well, it's in the book.
Speaker 3: This is these are the things you have to do.
Speaker 3: If you do these things, you're going to move in
Speaker 3: that direction. So you know, it's not a complicated program.
Speaker 3: It's very simple. It's very logical when you look at it.
Speaker 3: It's just I took the time to put it, to
Speaker 3: put it into a format that that makes sense. That's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of I mean, was trying to
Speaker 2: promote your book here, but I was just thinking the
Speaker 2: other side of it. There's a lot of people that
Speaker 2: don't like reading books. But I guess whether you listen
Speaker 2: to it in audio, whether you read a book, or
Speaker 2: whether you just ask somebody about it, it's all the
Speaker 2: same message, but in a different way. I'm a bit
Speaker 2: what's that word? Oh? Yeah, So I answer that one first,
Speaker 2: and I've just got another question. Yeah, so go ahead, yeah, first,
Speaker 2: go ahead. I was just I was going to give
Speaker 2: another question, but I thought you want to answer that
Speaker 2: one first.
Speaker 3: What I tell you know, people don't like to read books,
Speaker 3: some of them. The way I wrote the books, so
Speaker 3: it is for the people that don't like to read
Speaker 3: it because the chapters are only four or five pages long.
Speaker 3: I didn't want a long, drawn out kind of a presentation.
Speaker 3: So when I wrote it, I put the problem like
Speaker 3: getting honest with yourself. Then I'll give three or four
Speaker 3: pages of the things that we you know, the important information.
Speaker 3: Then I go right into okay, now'll start doing these things.
Speaker 3: So and usually the people that don't like to read
Speaker 3: other men, you know, so men are reading this a
Speaker 3: lot because all of a sudden somebody said, okay, I
Speaker 3: don't like to read a lot, but gee, it's only
Speaker 3: in it's only three or four pages. I could read that.
Speaker 3: I could read three or four pages a day, and
Speaker 3: you know, almost anyone can do that. And then look
Speaker 3: at what I need to do to start changing some
Speaker 3: things around. So when you take those things into consideration,
Speaker 3: and you write a book, then you're you're getting at
Speaker 3: those people who may have a difficult time reading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just thinking if somebody really was not
Speaker 2: well for whatever health reason, or they've had a major
Speaker 2: loss in their life, or you know, a marriage split up,
Speaker 2: somebody died, that kind of thing, like one of the
Speaker 2: major sort.
Speaker 3: Of it's a very practical way to look at so
Speaker 3: easy mine.
Speaker 2: I've certainly enjoyed every second.
Speaker 3: Thank you, so have I. And you can get the
Speaker 3: book on Amazon have it in the UK, Amazon Barnes
Speaker 3: and Noble. Uh. If people want to go to the website,
Speaker 3: it's my name Fasterregio dot com, or you can type
Speaker 3: in the Fix Yourself handbook and you'll find the website
Speaker 3: and then once you get there, it has everything about
Speaker 3: the book, and it has all the interviews I've done
Speaker 3: that you know that we're posted. Is about eighty of
Speaker 3: them on there, so they could hear a lot of
Speaker 3: what's going on this chapter outlines for there, as I said,
Speaker 3: excerpts from the book, so they can look at it
Speaker 3: and see, Okay, is this something that I think is
Speaker 3: going to help me make some change? So uh, you
Speaker 3: know again, Amazon Barnes and Noble or my website.
Speaker 2: Well, I suppose I should have asked this at the beginning.
Speaker 2: It's probably obvious, but what made you come up with
Speaker 2: the total? How you know how to fixure? You know?
Speaker 2: It's it's probably self explainatory, isn't it. It's a brilliant nicely.
Speaker 3: Is what I wanted people to do is? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: wanted to understand people understand that you can do this yourself,
Speaker 3: you know, you just it's it's a it's a program
Speaker 3: for life. It's something you can work with every day.
Speaker 3: Once you start to get the hang of it, it
Speaker 3: becomes fun. Uh. And you it's not like you and
Speaker 3: it's not that you're broken. It's that everything around needs fixing,
Speaker 3: you know. But people try to fix the external world
Speaker 3: and and that's never gonna happen. So you know, no
Speaker 3: one's going to cooperate with what we want. So I
Speaker 3: always say, why not fix what you what you're dealing with,
Speaker 3: and then be happy yourself? Then the chances of being
Speaker 3: happy outsider are just a whole lot better.
Speaker 2: Ah the wait, it's been brilliant talking to you, And
Speaker 2: I hope the book sell goes well. And if you're
Speaker 2: bringing any more books, out we can chat again.
Speaker 3: That sounds great. I appreciate you asking me.
Speaker 2: No problem at all, It's been brilliant. Take care.
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