WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:04.559 For fifteen years, the Big Show dominated the Utah sports 2 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:09.199 talk airwaves. First it was Craig Bowler Jack and Gordon Monson, 3 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:14.519 followed by Spence Check its in Monson. Now all three 4 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:18.719 are reunited on the Drive. It's time for the Big 5 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:23.120 Show Hour on the Drive at Spence check Its exclusively 6 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:25.239 on ESPN seven hundred. 7 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.960 It is time for the Big Show, Big Hour. 8 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:35.960 And as a result of some logistics, it's been difficult 9 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:40.280 to get all three of us in studio, but we 10 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:44.600 have accomplished it today on this Thursday afternoon, so we 11 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:48.679 have Craig Bowler Jack sporting. I love the look whenever 12 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.600 it's game day, and let's make sure their mics are 13 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:53.920 on whenever it's game day. It just looks like you 14 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:56.759 did a set as a crooner down at Graycie, singing 15 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:59.159 a little Sinatra and just walking right across the street. 16 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.039 I just loosened the time. It was a tough three 17 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:05.120 hour little gig, but I'm good. It was that lunch crowd. 18 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:05.879 It's tough out there. 19 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:09.799 I love the look man and just smashing beers. It's 20 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:12.640 unreal on a Thursday, Gordon, it looks like that looks 21 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:14.840 like a Budweiser in your in your cup, and I 22 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.319 know I know that you're not necessarily one that in vibes. 23 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:20.799 What are you drinking in the early afternoon stages of 24 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:21.519 a Thursday. 25 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:24.599 It is apple beer, So it's not real beer. 26 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:27.359 No, well, I mean it's apple beer, but it doesn't 27 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:29.159 I don't think it has alcohol in it. 28 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:29.799 Are you sure? 29 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:31.319 We'll find out during the show. 30 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:34.799 It seems loose Spence. All I know is back in 31 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:35.120 the day. 32 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:36.680 I know he won't love you sharing this, But for 33 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:38.480 about a week if pat Dad was like, man, I 34 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:43.319 really love kombucha. It makes me feel grand, Like you know, there's. 35 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:44.400 A little bit of hitting there, right, yeah, just so 36 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:47.280 you know, bops, that's why you're feeling good. So apple beer? 37 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:49.560 Is this a new a new hobby of you? 38 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:52.120 Actually, it's a trip in time for me because when 39 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:55.120 I was a kid on the East Coast, apple beer 40 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:56.840 was a little more of a thing. Sure, you know, 41 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.959 uh and uh, But I haven't really had luck since then, 42 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.680 so I thought, what the heck I went grocery shop 43 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:03.879 in this. 44 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:06.920 I don't believe that for a second or video of this, Yeah, 45 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:07.959 I don't believe that for a second. 46 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:09.560 Where'd you go? Because we're calling right now. 47 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.680 I went to the grocery stores down the street from me. 48 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:15.800 I was supposed to pick something up. Yeah, And I 49 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:19.280 picked up a cart and went up and down the aisles. Man, 50 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:21.680 And you know what, It's just so amazing what's in 51 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:25.039 these grocery stores. You take it for granted, right, But 52 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.919 I mean I'm not there very often. And so I 53 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.879 started looking around, and I was going, how come Lisa 54 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:33.639 never gets that? And so I started just cherry picking 55 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:34.719 stuff off the aisle. 56 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:36.400 You would wait, did you leave you to your own 57 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:37.439 devices at the store. 58 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:39.759 Yeah, she wasn't there. It was just me. 59 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:42.840 But he's talking like he wants the Nobel Peace bass 60 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:44.039 and he went grocery shops? 61 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.120 You really? Did you hit all the aisles, all twenty 62 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:47.479 four of it. 63 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:49.000 I didn't go up down every one of them, but 64 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.800 I went up. I think I skipped the the kitchen 65 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:56.360 cleaning applying stunning. Yeah, but I went up and down 66 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:56.840 most of them. 67 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:57.479 Wow. 68 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:00.479 So did you do this as a pushcart or just 69 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:07.240 what you got in the little scooter? I would pay 70 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.840 to see that, just rolling around the store in a 71 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:13.960 little the way the way, hold on here, when you 72 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:16.599 guys go to the grocery store. Yeah, what do you buy. 73 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:19.159 The necessities that I need to live? Like? 74 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:22.560 What though? I mean, do you spoil yourself with a 75 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:25.919 little treat here and and something that's less than healthy 76 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:26.439 over there? 77 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:27.000 Yeah? 78 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:28.879 You know what, Usually it's a list that I'm mean 79 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.560 given from Sharon saying break free. But sometimes, you know, 80 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.439 I'll go on my own just because like I need 81 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:40.080 idprofen bad, you know, Okay, something like that. After these 82 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:43.080 long road trips, I'm out. I got where I need 83 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:47.159 some help to. Yeah, exactly, that's a headache right there. 84 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:48.240 So what do you buy? 85 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:50.039 It's it's whatever, you know. 86 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:53.759 Sometimes I'll see a special on Cheetos and I haven't 87 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.680 had the tough Cheetos in a while. Okay, you know, 88 00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:00.360 two bags five nine with the card, you know, with 89 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.000 my card, so i'll see what the heck I'm taking them. 90 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:06.639 I'll leave one in my office and then just throw 91 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:07.319 one in the kitchen. 92 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:08.240 Yeah. 93 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:10.879 You know what I got today that I've never bought before? 94 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:11.719 I can't wait time? 95 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.639 Yeah? Yeah, those what do you call those little potato 96 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:19.720 puff things? Like in Napoleon Dynamite that he was putting. 97 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:23.720 Tater tots potato puff things. That's not even a hard 98 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:28.920 thing to pull tater tots what do you call potatoes? 99 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.000 And little slits? And you fry them? What do you 100 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:34.120 call those? Do you understand that you have to warm 101 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:37.079 those up? Yeah? You just can't open the bag and 102 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:39.079 eat them. Yeah. 103 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:41.680 In fact, we got one of those do dads that 104 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:44.680 air fryer things. 105 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.240 You can use the air fryer to make some tater tots. 106 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:47.560 Yeah. 107 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.319 Okay, Well it looks like you're smashing a budweiser right 108 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:51.399 in front of it. 109 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:51.959 You know. 110 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.560 Do you think people would judge me? 111 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.360 I wouldn't. No, man, I can't speak for the community. 112 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:01.040 If it's five o'clock, i'd say on, but it's three 113 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.480 three oh seven, so I thought maybe a little early. 114 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:07.439 But that's okay, it's five o'clock someplace, you know. The 115 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.279 first thing I thought of was the great late Jerry Sloan, 116 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.040 who liked to throw a few ice cubes in a 117 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:12.720 cold bud light. 118 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:13.720 Really. Yeah. 119 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:16.920 One of my jobs when I was the pr intern 120 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:19.000 for Dave all Read and Kim Turners, I had to 121 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.160 keep six beers back for hot Rod and two beers 122 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:22.839 back for Jerry. 123 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:24.560 Because in the media room back in the day they 124 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:26.720 had beers. They did absolutely not any longer. 125 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:28.680 I wouldn't judge you, but I think there's a portion 126 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.279 of our community that's been enjoying your recent work with 127 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:33.000 the trip that might judge you a little bit. 128 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:34.399 If you're smashing beers. 129 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:36.879 I think that I'm doing that. Well, look, if that's 130 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:39.680 your thing, then go forward. But I'm just saying, when 131 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.360 I walked in here, there's a police officer driving by, 132 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.199 and would that be ill? 133 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:45.000 Yeah, you would be. 134 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.079 That's called an open container And I could go down 135 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:49.079 all the laws if you want to. 136 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:49.480 We can. 137 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.800 We can dissect every single one of them in Vegas. 138 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:54.560 You'd be fine. 139 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:57.639 Can you imagine getting an alert on your phone that 140 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.600 Monson has been detained for an open container in downtown? 141 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.480 So I would not believe that to be true. 142 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:06.040 For but if I had this Benson it was filled 143 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:08.439 up because it started up here. If it's filled up 144 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.160 there and it's got the phamy head on it and 145 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:15.639 all that stuff that's they found my head, would would 146 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:16.959 would the police officer? 147 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:17.560 Yes? 148 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.480 To me, I think a cop would inquire as to 149 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:23.399 what the beverage was in in your plasticut there. 150 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:25.839 I don't know if they have like a little scary strip, 151 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:28.920 they may have put in there to see if it. 152 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.399 Reacts to it well. And also since you're new to 153 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:34.800 the game, red red plastic cups, Yeah, the red Solar Bear. 154 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:36.639 That's why everybody has the red solo cups. 155 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.639 Okay, okay, because I had one to lose at home, 156 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:39.040 I could he. 157 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:41.839 Use see this is a giveaway. Well it's also apple beer. 158 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:47.680 You're fine red plastic or you had to go if 159 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:48.240 you know what I mean. 160 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:54.600 Okay, So look like that caught off guard bowler, welcome 161 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:55.720 back to civilization. 162 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:58.439 Friend here, you shouldn't be wearing socks. 163 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:01.160 Really, that wouldn't I completed if he was. 164 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.199 If I was in Miami like I was like five 165 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:06.600 days ago, should just warn no socks. And we did 166 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:09.439 Big T's idea. We just went the the Don Johnson 167 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.000 Miami Vice Look no tie, which felt good for change. 168 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:13.480 Actually to go down to the South Beach. 169 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:15.839 Yeah we actually did. Yeah, not much. It rained the 170 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.439 entire you know, little no No. That was New York. 171 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.519 I get mixed up where I am sometimes Miami was beautiful. 172 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:24.399 Orlando was very nice as well. But to Spens and 173 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:26.399 if we were talking earlier, I mean that the schedule 174 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:29.240 has been insane and we hit the road again for 175 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:31.279 a quick trip to Phoenix, and then we come back 176 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:35.199 and head to New Orleans and by the middle of January, man, 177 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:38.279 we've we've, we've, we've put some miles on those airplanes. 178 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:39.839 Let me tell you that, right, this is the time 179 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:40.199 of year. 180 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.480 Because I did pre aff and post for seven years, 181 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:44.839 and even because I never traveled, we were at the 182 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:47.680 at the arena and that was no. This is the 183 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:49.319 time of year where you walk out of you and 184 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:51.800 for me, it was like one thirty am, and you're 185 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:54.000 just like, dude, I need to I don't care if 186 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:55.920 you're a coach, a player, a broadcast. This is the 187 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.000 time of year where you lose track of the days 188 00:07:58.040 --> 00:07:58.879 and like where you're at. 189 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:00.920 Here's the biggest thing to have in me? What side 190 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:03.680 of the bed do I get off and out of? Okay, 191 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:05.199 I mean it's weird. I wake up and I go 192 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:06.920 I am totally lost. I don't know if people who 193 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:11.079 travel a lot feel the same WA's. And the thing 194 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:12.920 I've been trying to do is make sure you know 195 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.000 as you get older, you say I can handle it. 196 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.800 But one night I remember, on this last road trip, 197 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:21.639 I stayed in Room nine seventeen, the next night. I 198 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:25.720 was in seven nineteen, you see, So okay, all of 199 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.399 a sudden, my mind flashes back to the ninth floor, 200 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:29.600 or mind the seventh floor. 201 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:31.160 Yeah, and you go crap. 202 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:33.559 So you go up to the seventh floor and you 203 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:36.600 throw your cart across a little you know, if it 204 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:39.480 doesn't beep or go click click, just start knocking loud. Yeah, 205 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.080 then I go back up to the ninth floor and 206 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:42.639 try it again. So that's what I did. 207 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:44.960 Well, I'm glad you're back. It's good to be bad guys. 208 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:46.559 I'd love to see you know. This is where you know, 209 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:48.039 this is where it all starts. This where it is. 210 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:51.519 Yet I gotta ask a quick question about this travel thing. 211 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.559 You remember back when people were telling us that Carl 212 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:58.240 had in his contract that he had to have a 213 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:02.080 couple of baskets are fresh fruit in this hotel? Yeah? 214 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.240 Was that true? I don't know. 215 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.480 I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, if you hear rock 216 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:11.080 stars only have green m and ms right in the 217 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:14.200 green room or whatever. I mean, everybody has this, you 218 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:15.559 know oddity that they like. 219 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:16.799 You have anything that you have? 220 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:18.200 Are you kidding me? 221 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.679 They would laugh me right through, Like Bullerjack wants what Yeah, right? 222 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:25.559 You ever you ever raide the bar? 223 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:27.799 I try to stay away from that. 224 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.679 Isn't like two hundred bucks if you if you eat 225 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:31.919 a bag of potato. 226 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:33.279 Chips, it's not two hundred dollars for a bag of 227 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:35.840 potato chips. But it's not economic depends. 228 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.080 On what city. If you're in San Antonio versus New York, 229 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.480 if you're in Sacramento versus Miami. It is a night 230 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:45.840 and day price difference night and day. 231 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:52.000 So people wonder this spencer you drive this bro. I 232 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:53.360 think people wonder. 233 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:57.679 Yeah, we got an hour here, We're fine. 234 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:03.559 Okay. What are the players? What is their situation from city? 235 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:04.279 This city? 236 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:04.879 Is it? 237 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:08.200 I mean, is it posh? Is it just routine? 238 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:08.919 Is it? What? 239 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:10.720 What are their accommodations? 240 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.320 Well, it's nice according to the NBA Players Union, I 241 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:18.000 do believe hotels are in the five star category. That's 242 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:23.360 part of the contract. Yes, per diem, Yes, well, you know, 243 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:27.639 food at their disposal in the hotels. But I'll be 244 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:30.240 honest with you, all the years I've traveled, I really 245 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:35.200 think that it's a routine that everyone has to decide 246 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:38.399 on how to do it themselves and what works for you. 247 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:41.039 I mean, Tea has told me in the older days, 248 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.080 because they used to play back to back to back, 249 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.879 and there were some days in the Sloan era especially, 250 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.159 but the back to backs are rough. 251 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:49.200 I mean there's naps. 252 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:51.759 I mean, it sounds crazy for young men to say 253 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:54.000 it's nap time, but I think you have to catch 254 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:57.240 your best rest whenever you possibly can, and it depends 255 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:00.279 on your body. Some sleep on the flight, some one. 256 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:05.399 Some stay busy with whether it's movies uh or looking 257 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.799 at at game film honestly uh. And others just I 258 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.080 think just try to just just chill. 259 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:15.440 The players, watch what they eat. Who is the player 260 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.320 Spencer used to eat the cheeseburgers. 261 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.080 I was Mel Turpin Dinner Bell Mel. Yeah. 262 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:22.919 I thought there was another one. I'm forgetting his name 263 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.360 right now, but he he ate like a teenager. 264 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:29.320 But you know, I don't think the NBA, any training 265 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:32.279 staff in the league now would allow that, the least 266 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.360 in the sense of them presenting to that on the 267 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.240 flight or in a hotel gathering where they get together 268 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.879 for team meetings and then they have a meal. There's 269 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:43.600 no way unless they jump out on their own and 270 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.519 go to smashburger. I don't know maybe once in a 271 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:49.000 while they do. They got to treat themselves on occasion. 272 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:51.919 Let me ask you this because I love the Gordon 273 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:54.720 asked if NBA players staying nice, it's like a lacina 274 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:55.919 with Jimmy Johns for life. 275 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:56.559 Of course. 276 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:05.679 Has Yeah, the buffet, how accommodating. 277 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:08.279 Made order pancake Walker just nailed a thousand Marrion points 278 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:09.679 so he can get some milk in the morning. 279 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:10.440 Give me a break. 280 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:14.720 But I am curious. Gordon as Gordon, as only Gordon 281 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:17.039 can do. Gordon does bring up an interesting topic. I 282 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:20.879 wonder how it's changed because I think it was Wickerstram 283 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:25.120 somebody about four years ago, five years ago, because I 284 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:29.200 can remember doing postgame my final year doing postgame with 285 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:33.320 Britain and we would notice it was a Warriors game 286 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.960 and there were about six or seven young ladies in 287 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:40.600 the arena just sitting there and we're. 288 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.039 Kind of like what's going on here? Like how'd they 289 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:42.320 get in? 290 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:45.759 And Klay Thompson walks out and all six or seven 291 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:49.480 of them just follow Clay out back and the disappear. 292 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:50.120 End of the night. 293 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.159 Well I didn't follow them. I don't know where they went. 294 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:54.679 But the piece that Wickerstram wrote, he called it the 295 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.600 tenderfication of the NBA. Whereas back in the day, like 296 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.799 Gordon was talking about, and I saw this, you know, 297 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:04.039 in my own travels. But you've traveled with the teams 298 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:06.360 of more than I have. You know, players get done 299 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:08.399 with a game, go back to the hotel, and then 300 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:10.480 they're out. They go to the club, right they want 301 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:12.240 to meet women, they want to hang out, and that 302 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:13.080 was kind of the deal. 303 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:17.080 And now with dating apps, they land. 304 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:19.960 And boom, you're swiping and oh, a girl sees Klay 305 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:21.960 Thompson match with me on Tinder, so I'm going to 306 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.159 go meet him after the game. They don't have to 307 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:25.840 go out the way they used to if they want 308 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:28.240 to meet women. And also there's a little bit more 309 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:30.519 of an understanding of how to take care of yourself 310 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:34.559 because of the implementation of strength and conditioning coach and nutritionists. 311 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:37.279 Like teams, they don't want these twenty one to twenty 312 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.600 two year old players going out and smash into kuila shots. 313 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:41.720 I think they take care of themselves better now in 314 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:43.000 a way they didn't back in the day. 315 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.279 I would agree that there's more on the line today 316 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.840 than ever because they make it very clear in the 317 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:53.799 NBA and the rookie symposiums that are held. Look, here's 318 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.279 the way you're supposed to act, and the team also 319 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:58.120 expects the same thing. 320 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.919 At what point is an intrusion into privacy? Because you know, 321 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:05.080 that's a great point. 322 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.960 You still have your private life, right. It was Tom 323 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.360 Habershaw who wrote that piece. My bad Tom Habershaw, Yeah, 324 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.639 who wrote the piece about the tender use in the NBA. 325 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:17.039 But I remember one time at Marina del Rey. We 326 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:19.399 were standing at a hotel there and the team hotel 327 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:23.000 was next door, the Ritz and and uh, yeah, you've 328 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:26.279 been there many times, and the jazz are in the playoffs, 329 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.720 and there was a certain jazz player who was checking 330 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:36.080 his cousin into the hotel right when a few of 331 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:40.720 us media people walked and he was checking her in, 332 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.519 and and he happened to also be married at the time, 333 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:48.200 and he was checking this cousin in, and it was 334 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.039 just really kind of weird because it was like, Okay, 335 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:55.120 it's really none of our business what so and so 336 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.320 is doing, but that's what he was doing. 337 00:14:58.360 --> 00:14:59.519 How do you know it wasn't his cousin. 338 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:01.519 We were pretty sure. 339 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.480 Can't people have attractive cousins. 340 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:08.559 Uh, could be a sister. It's a dangerous question in Utah. 341 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:11.480 Yeah, true, it could be a sister. Well, your point is, well. 342 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:13.360 I don't want to jump to a conclusion, but we 343 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:14.679 kind of did. 344 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:15.039 Think. 345 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:17.519 I think the bottom line to it is that there 346 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:21.240 is space that men live and women who travel in 347 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:25.399 the WNBA or whatever, you know, there still is a privacy. 348 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.559 I think the players respect that, the coaches as long 349 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:32.759 as it doesn't impact that the team concept of winning 350 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:36.320 and moving forward. Uh, you know, I'll tell you what. 351 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.440 There's some nights at three o'clock you just don't you don't. 352 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:41.960 I can't say it, but you know what I'm talking about. 353 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:44.759 You just want to go to get your butt upstairs, 354 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:47.480 throw your sixty pounds bag that you've been on the 355 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:51.039 road for seven days, and just try to find some sleep. 356 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:54.279 I think this particular player, jazz player, just wanted to 357 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:55.240 take a little comfort. 358 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:59.240 Ah, not a pillow, simon. But you know, look, does 359 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:03.159 it happen sure? I mean, but is this exclusive to 360 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:03.639 the NBA? 361 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:04.159 No? 362 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:06.639 I mean business trips whatever you make. You know, you 363 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.120 can break it downever you want. But look, traveling is, 364 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:12.840 in my opinion's still difficult mentally, physically, and if you're 365 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:16.399 making the kind of money that is in the NBA, 366 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:20.480 the National Football League, Hockey Baseball, there is so much 367 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.480 at stake now, even more that if you want to 368 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:26.279 stay in this league and they're pushing you every day 369 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.240 because there's somebody else rumored to be on their way, 370 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:32.879 and so I think the pressure of just being who 371 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:37.600 you are and keep it for six months, that's your job. Obviously, 372 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:40.440 you work out during the off season, and you may 373 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:43.240 go overseas, you may play in summer leagues or whatever 374 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:46.399 it may be. But man, you've got to be uber focused. 375 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:49.240 Especially with a team like the Jazz, because you play hungover. 376 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:50.200 I can't imagine. 377 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:52.120 Well, I mean, if you're a star, if you're an 378 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:55.200 established star, then people aren't going to really question you 379 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:58.320 about what your routine is. But if you're in the 380 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:01.200 Jazz situation and you're trying to prove yourself and you're 381 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.680 trying to improve as you do it, if I were 382 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:06.400 one of those guys that wouldn't be messing around, I. 383 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:07.240 Wouldn't do a thing, man. 384 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:11.039 I would play ball, sleep and eat, play ball, sleep 385 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.119 and eat. As they say is you're living in the tube, 386 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:18.279 which means the bus, the arena, the hotel, and the plane. 387 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:19.880 That's it. That's it. 388 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:23.160 That's your life, and the money you make is the reward. 389 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:25.720 And right now, the jazz especially, there's a lot of 390 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:28.519 players out there that are still unknown in their own 391 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:32.119 minds or their contracts, and their agents are trying to 392 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.799 make sure that they play, they live to play another day. 393 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:38.119 Because I loved your interview with Tony coming in, I 394 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:41.000 mean Tony spot On. I mean, there's a lot of ifs. 395 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.640 There's a lot of players that are potentially ready to 396 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:46.599 be drafted that could easily jump in and take a 397 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:49.799 place or two of multiple jazz players. And over this 398 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:52.400 next three years, man, you've got to be solid if 399 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.319 you're going to survive. Danny Ainge and Justin Zanik. 400 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:59.039 Do you remember Ron Fellows O? Yes, Na sounds familiar, 401 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:02.839