1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,600 Speaker 1: Dot com. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,879 Speaker 2: This is Cougar Sports on ko v O probo k 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,480 U d d H D two one O three nine 4 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:08,800 at ninety eight three. 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,839 Speaker 1: ESPN the Fan all rahs. 6 00:00:15,759 --> 00:00:18,199 Speaker 2: Each just time to check in with Preston and Garrett 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,519 Handy of Handy and Handy for sports Court. Handy and 8 00:00:21,559 --> 00:00:24,960 Handy are your accident and personal injury attorneys ready to 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,160 assist with any related questions you may have Visit them 10 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:33,320 online at Handylawutah dot com. Big Firm Experience, Small Firm Attention. 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,719 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the sports One of three nine ninety 12 00:00:38,799 --> 00:00:41,079 point three is being a fan. I've at Brittle broadcasting 13 00:00:41,079 --> 00:00:43,439 from our Banterwealth Studios Batterwealth dot com. Get on that 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,840 free Q and A no obligation to advest Q and 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:51,359 A with our tax more Wealth Advisors, Certified Financial Planners Banterwealth, 16 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:53,000 Banterwealth dot com. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: It is time for one of my favorite segments. 18 00:00:56,039 --> 00:00:59,039 Speaker 3: That's right as little sports Core Baby Handy and Handy 19 00:00:59,079 --> 00:01:02,520 Handy Law yout dot com. What do we talk about 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,640 in this segment, Well, it's time to play judge and jury. 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: What's the verdict on the biggest headlines in sports and law. 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: It's time for that Sports Court Each week, we break 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,719 down the real life legal drama, intersecting with your favorite athletes, teams, 24 00:01:14,719 --> 00:01:21,280 and leagues, from contract disputes, any okay, sideline, scandal's court 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,359 and battles you nade it. We're delving deep into it 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,200 with Utah's most trusted injury attorneys. I believe we got 27 00:01:28,239 --> 00:01:30,439 Garrett Preston Handy on the line right now, don't we ap. 28 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:34,680 Let's go, gentlemen. How you guys doing today? 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: Hey? Good? 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: How are you doing? 31 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: Man? 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 4: Thanks for having us. 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,359 Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic. Appreciate you guys joining us. How's your brackets? 34 00:01:42,359 --> 00:01:43,719 Speaker 1: Guys? Are they busted yet? 35 00:01:43,719 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: How you guys feeling about March maddeness? 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 5: I didn't do it, bracket. I used to do brackets. 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:57,239 I don't do them anymore. And sadly, my excuses because 38 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:00,680 I used to follow teams when guys would play three 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,560 and four years, and you would know teams when they'd 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,760 have junior and seniors and they'd had a experienced point 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,639 guard and they were battle tested in the tournament. And honestly, 42 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:13,879 now I just don't even follow a lot of these programs. 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,599 You know, it was fun following players through their college 44 00:02:16,599 --> 00:02:18,840 career and then when they went into the pros. It's 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,240 just it's lost a little bit of its luster. 46 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:24,159 Speaker 1: You're you're the get off my lawn guy. 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 5: You know, I still watch it. I still will watch 48 00:02:29,159 --> 00:02:32,759 games tonight, and I like doing that. I just don't 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,960 like going into a bracket with you know, I used 50 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,199 to try to put some little time into it when 51 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,639 that probably didn't matter at all. 52 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: Right, Well, high Point and that squad ended up knocking 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,039 off with Wisconsin. I mean they got a we got 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,520 a five twelve upset. You can just pick all the upsets. 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,280 I did one of my brackets. I only hit on 56 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,879 maybe one or two of them. Obviously I did pick 57 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:57,919 the high Point one, but you know, picking the the 58 00:02:58,039 --> 00:03:00,520 underdog as well, so the Cinderella's or is that you're 59 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,240 rooting for as well? 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: We gotta when they got one in high Point. 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: They're a three point shooting team. 62 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:07,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I gotta get back into it. 63 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: Well, I had Wisconsin through to the sweet sixteen, so 64 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,000 so quit rubbing it in, Ben. 65 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,719 Speaker 5: Well, guy, I used to like to have my paper copy, 66 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:19,759 you know, and crossing out teams and all that, you know, 67 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,840 and it's just, yeah, I'm I'm a little bit get 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:23,879 off my long guy. 69 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:27,159 Speaker 1: It's okay, man. We all get there, you know, sooner 70 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:27,639 or later. 71 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: I'm not there yet, you know, but I'm sure I'm 72 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,039 gonna be there here in the next couple of years, 73 00:03:33,039 --> 00:03:35,840 no doubt about it. Garrett Preston Handy on the line. 74 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:39,400 Let's get into some of the eligibility issues right now. 75 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:43,560 Eligibility anti trust lawsuits are a plenty. This may be 76 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:49,240 the last March Madness without former pros. What's the latest 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,840 on this with eligibility and March Madness, n CUAA tournament 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,960 implications and NBA player implications. 79 00:03:56,439 --> 00:03:59,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're doing this just as part of you know, 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,360 today's March Madness starting. And one of the guys we 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,919 go to on our legal issues is Michael mccannon who 82 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:08,199 writes a lot of articles on legal issues, and in 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,479 honor of this, he did a legal issue in the 84 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:13,280 premise that he threw out there was this, will this 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,439 be the last March Madness where we don't have former 86 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,079 pro players NBA players playing for college teams. That's a 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,040 crazy statement, isn't. But the reason we're talking about is 88 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:29,399 because over the last year there have been several eligibility 89 00:04:29,439 --> 00:04:32,839 fights by football players by basketball players and the reason 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,279 we're having eligibility fights is for one reason, nil and 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,959 there's money to be made. You know, in the past, 92 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,120 guys had five years to play four and when they 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,160 were done, they didn't care about you know, running ladders 94 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,519 and windsprints and getting knocked around and getting hit in 95 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,920 the head. They were done with it. But where players 96 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,240 now are seeing the option to extend their eligibility, they're 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,639 doing everything they can. The Patriots say that this was 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,839 our guy, Diego Pavia, who got an extra couple of years, 99 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,360 you know, when he filed his things. So we've seen 100 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,279 a lot of them going on. And you know, the NCAA, 101 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,839 they they agreed to you know, nil after the courts 102 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,240 came down on it, and they agreed to the House settlement, 103 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,240 which is revenue sharing. But they seem to want to 104 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,759 die on this hill of eligibility, they really do. And 105 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,120 so there are many challenges, and the challenges come out 106 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,199 of this anti trust argument that it's anti competition, And 107 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,519 the craziest ones that we're talking about today are where 108 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,519 former professional basketball players have tried to get additional eligibility, 109 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:41,120 you know, and so that seems crazy, right, but one 110 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:46,000 European player he actually was granted eligibility. He won his case, 111 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:48,800 and a lot of it talked about were these school 112 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,879 related things and the decision. But then the other crazy 113 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:54,480 one was this guy from that played at Alabama. He 114 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,439 was a really good player at Alabama. He actually got 115 00:05:56,519 --> 00:05:59,720 drafted in the NBA and was relegated to the G League. 116 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,839 And while he's in the G League, he's going, hey, 117 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,360 this isn't very good. You know, someone talked him into 118 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,000 fighting eligibility, and this year he did that. He filed 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,319 a lawsuit against the NCAA who said, no, we're not 120 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:13,439 letting you back in. And he actually won his injunction 121 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:16,199 and the court said, yeah, we're going to enjoin the 122 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,560 NCAA from enforcing their eligibility rule. And so he actually 123 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,279 played six or eight games for Alabama, and as it 124 00:06:23,319 --> 00:06:25,160 made it through the court, the court looked at it 125 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,519 and said, no, wait a minute, you're not playing. And 126 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,439 right now he's appealing that. So the idea is that 127 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:33,639 we're going to see a lot of these and you 128 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,519 know what that says here in the article. The legal 129 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,879 hurdle for the NCAA and its members is the new 130 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,519 world challenge of sports increasingly resembling professional sports, and that's 131 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:46,480 what we're seeing. And so the idea of guys from 132 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,560 professional leagues going back to college is kind of crazy, 133 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,199 but again, they're doing it for money. What could happen here, 134 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,680 Ben is Congress could step in and they see this 135 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,120 problem and they could say, hey, wait, wait a minute, 136 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,480 we are going to exempt any of these claims making 137 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:08,319 any anti trust claims just because it's really like professional sports. 138 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:10,839 And as we know, it's professional sports. They have labor 139 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,519 unions and they've agreed, you know, they've agreed by their 140 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,959 contract that they can't pursue anti trust claims. The other 141 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,600 way it could make it is we're going to see 142 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,800 a bunch of these claims and sports Court thanks you 143 00:07:21,839 --> 00:07:24,040 because they give us a lot to talk about. And 144 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,959 the courts are really split on this. Some say no, 145 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,360 you get next three year of eligibility, You get next 146 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,480 three year of eligibility, and some courts are saying, no, 147 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:34,240 you don't, you don't qualify, you used up your eligibility. 148 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,519 So the courts are going across the board us. So 149 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:38,439 we're going to see a bunch of these One thing 150 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,439 that could happen is one of these cases goes up 151 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,800 through the court process. It makes it, it gets denied 152 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:46,160 or gets granted, it gets appealed, and it makes it 153 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:48,720 to the United States Supreme Court, where they could actually, 154 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:51,240 if they want to spend their time looking at this, 155 00:07:51,399 --> 00:07:54,480 they could, you know, really give an outline what the 156 00:07:54,519 --> 00:07:57,959 reals on eligibility are. So that's just to talk about it. 157 00:07:57,959 --> 00:08:00,680 With March madness and things going on here and the 158 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,879 eligibility fights, we're gonna see down the road. 159 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: Man, No wonder you to get off my lawn, guy, 160 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,399 because of all these NBA players trying to come back 161 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:10,720 and make money. It's all about the filthy luker with 162 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:11,360 these guys. 163 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's also the one and done guys. You 164 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,199 have a you have a hard time following a team 165 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,680 and knowing who's gonna be there from year to year. 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,480 I think that's part of it because the stars, the 167 00:08:21,519 --> 00:08:23,680 stars really are the one and done guys. You know, 168 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,199 they're not the guys that are in their third and 169 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,560 fourth year and you know, and we're all Americans and 170 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,480 that type of thing. That's part of it. But I 171 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:32,639 do like watching the games. I just don't do my bracket. 172 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,120 That's that's the thing there. 173 00:08:34,879 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: All right, let's get an update no, and I respect that, 174 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,799 still still watching the games, just not allocating the bandwidth 175 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:44,879 that you used to and strategically filling it out exactly. 176 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Maybe you need to put some money on it, like 177 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,559 Kyle she does. 178 00:08:50,639 --> 00:08:52,159 Speaker 3: If you get a little money and on it, then 179 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:55,120 you're gonna, yeah, you know, put one hundred dollars down, 180 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,320 maybe with some friends and family members on that bracket, 181 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,120 and uh, maybe you'll be filled out. Well, cal she 182 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,240 is essentially doing that right. Prediction market caw she hit 183 00:09:04,759 --> 00:09:08,840 Is has been making some waves over the last year 184 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,440 or so, and now they're getting hit with a big 185 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,759 way with criminal charges in Arizona. What's going on with this? 186 00:09:15,919 --> 00:09:18,759 How different is this than maybe civil cases? 187 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Ben, I mean if you put some money 188 00:09:21,919 --> 00:09:24,360 on a game like you just said, I mean that 189 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:28,440 is that gambling? Is that sports betting? Or or is 190 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,720 it not right? These prediction markets? I'm not sure. I 191 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:37,639 totally understand the distinction. Apparently ninety percent of the trading 192 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,960 volume on Call she Is is sport essentially sports betting, right, 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,159 So you know, the question is really what is the 194 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,679 distinction here? And that distinction really matters because what the 195 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,799 state of Arizona is doing is they're saying, this is 196 00:09:53,879 --> 00:09:59,840 essentially gambling, and you're operating an illegal gambling operation in 197 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,120 the state of Arizona, and that's against the law. And 198 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,399 so we're going to bring you, bring charges against you 199 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,200 for violating these criminal charges right against this company for 200 00:10:10,519 --> 00:10:13,879 you know, operating in an illegal gambling ring. And so call 201 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,200 She's you know, their defense in this whole thing is 202 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,279 to say, no, no, no, we're not a We're not we're 203 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:23,320 not we're not doing gambling. We're a prediction market. And 204 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,919 and again, to me, it's sort of a distinction without 205 00:10:25,919 --> 00:10:28,639 a difference. I guess I'm I'm showing my cards here. 206 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,320 I'm citing with Arizona a little bit on this, and 207 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:33,600 even the state of Utah, who's who said the same 208 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:35,960 thing in a in a different roundabout way. You know, 209 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,720 Call She's kind of taken the advance the offense here 210 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,639 in the state of Utah, because the question really comes 211 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:45,519 down to what is a prediction market and and they 212 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:49,840 would say that they are a commodity futures trading platform 213 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,759 or something like that, right, that these are these are swaps, 214 00:10:55,919 --> 00:10:59,320 you know, instead of betting against the house type of situation. 215 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,919 And so if it's a commodity futures trading that falls 216 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,639 under the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which is a federal agency. 217 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,039 Federal law applies and they can operate these things, and 218 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,320 states don't really have a say, right, and so that 219 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,600 is an issue that's an issue here. It's an issue 220 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:20,279 of states law versus federal law and what applies and 221 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,519 what are these things? And so of course it has 222 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,360 significance because, like I said, ninety percent of the trading 223 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:31,000 volume is essentially sports betting. And so you know, we're 224 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,639 going to Arizona's pushing the issue, and I think other 225 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,519 states are going to as well. I think there's a 226 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:38,879 lot of people that have major concerns about prediction markets. 227 00:11:38,919 --> 00:11:41,679 So we'll see what the courts, what the courts to 228 00:11:41,759 --> 00:11:42,159 do with it. 229 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: I'll say this. 230 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:45,799 Speaker 3: I mean, look, it is fun to get out on 231 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,799 the golf course, bet with the boys, do a little. 232 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: Bracket here and there. 233 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: But I don't know there's like long term impact, especially 234 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,399 for men right now, young men and these betting markets. Man, like, 235 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,000 there's some issues there, like wonder like the there's like 236 00:12:02,039 --> 00:12:05,000 an obviously we know that there's some addictive behaviors there, 237 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:06,279 right and people can. 238 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Get underwater real quick. 239 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: Is there a liability issue with some of these like 240 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,000 betting markets as well, from like a personal consumer standpoint 241 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,759 and an addition standpoint. 242 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: I think we're going to see those kinds of cases, 243 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,279 you know, where there's a currently I mean, just as 244 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,039 a quick side note, there's a social media trial going 245 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:28,759 on right now in southern California. In fact, it might 246 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:33,399 be wrapping up. But the argument is basically, these platforms, 247 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,000 these apps are addictive, right, and they're designed to be addictive, 248 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,679 and it causes harm to people. And I think it's 249 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,120 a very similar argument for you know, online gaming and 250 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,919 gambling platforms, that they've made these so accessible to all 251 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,159 kinds of people that really shouldn't be doing this, right. 252 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:57,679 So anyway, yeah, I think we're going to see it. Ben, 253 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,240 to answer your. 254 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: Question, yes, indeed, yes. All right, let's move on to 255 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,080 the football field. 256 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: Nebraska football players are challenging the College Sports Commission and 257 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,919 nil go on nil restrictions. There's a review on these 258 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:12,679 nil deals. What's going on here? 259 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, So when it became as part of the House Settlement, 260 00:13:17,879 --> 00:13:22,480 when it became legal to have nil deals, one of 261 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:26,559 the safeguards that was put in place later was that 262 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,639 the College Sports Commission would have a chance to govern 263 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,960 NIL contracts. And what they did was they used a 264 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:41,720 group called nil go to vet contracts, you know, NIL contracts, 265 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:47,320 and the statistics are that they have actually approved one 266 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,360 hundred and sixty six million dollars in NIL contracts and 267 00:13:51,399 --> 00:13:54,840 they have reviewed there's another thirty million sitting there that 268 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:57,919 have been reviewed and have not been cleared. Well, there's 269 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,840 eighteen players on the Nabaska football team and they had 270 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:06,600 some of their contracts in ILE contracts not approved by 271 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:11,039 nil GO. And we've all heard this that contracts over 272 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,639 six hundred dollars have to be reviewed and approved. And 273 00:14:16,279 --> 00:14:19,159 what was said when this wasn't approved. It basically says 274 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:24,159 that these football players made media rights with partner play Fly. 275 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:27,720 They were rejected due to a practice called warehousing. I've 276 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,399 never heard that, in which the entity buys the players 277 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:34,399 nil rights for future partnerships and endorsements. They're saying that 278 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,960 it didn't comply with what to get the green light 279 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,639 from nil GO clearing house and commercials because it wasn't 280 00:14:42,679 --> 00:14:46,919 really listed, it wasn't specified in the contract. And these 281 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:50,399 players have decided to challenge this and they are suing 282 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:55,159 and they've entered into arbitration and apparently these contracts were 283 00:14:55,799 --> 00:14:57,679 combined up to about a million dollars, so it's no 284 00:14:57,799 --> 00:15:01,320 small amount of money. These players have decided to challenge 285 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,000 this and go to arbitration to see if these you know, 286 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,320 if nil go and the commercial they the College Sports 287 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,399 Commission is applying this correctly. I think they're trying to 288 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,679 get just, you know, through this, you know, a lot looser, 289 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,960 you know, everything that's going on with anal contracts and 290 00:15:19,039 --> 00:15:22,519 transfer portal, just be looser with it and less oversight. 291 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:25,480 So it could be really precedent setting. You know that 292 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:28,679 these players are challenging that it could be precedent setting. 293 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,360 And I think I think what happened when the house 294 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,480 settlement was agreed to that they wanted some predictability and 295 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:38,120 some oversight. So you know, we heard we've heard this 296 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,960 term wild West with everything that's going on, and there's 297 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,799 no predictability, there's no safeguards, there's no rules. But this 298 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,519 is one of the rules they're trying to put in place. 299 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,200 And if you look at the percentages, they have approved 300 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,879 a lot of these, but they just didn't prove this 301 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:53,639 because it looked like they were trying to manipulate it 302 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:57,240 with these future deals, you know, and it didn't qualify 303 00:15:57,279 --> 00:15:59,279 as I saw it, And so we'll see what happens 304 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,000 at arbitration. All of these guys have separate claims, but 305 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,720 because they're similarly situated and very similar, they're presuming them together. 306 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:12,879 Speaker 3: Love it, man, it's crazy that, you know, the Nile world. 307 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Yes, is the wild wild West. It's been chaotic. 308 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:20,399 Speaker 3: I want to say that it's been a net positive overall, though, 309 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:24,840 Like especially in football, you know, looking at Indiana win 310 00:16:24,919 --> 00:16:28,600 the National championship and looking at teams like even BYU 311 00:16:28,919 --> 00:16:34,799 and SMU, and you see these these teams Vanderbilt, Indiana 312 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,320 and Vanderbilt have been the worst power for Power five 313 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:42,559 teams in college football over the last sixty years, and 314 00:16:42,679 --> 00:16:46,200 now their top twenty five programs in Indiana just won 315 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,759 to Natty and b YU is a top fifteen program. 316 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:52,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the pendulum's gonna swing, gentlemen, we. 317 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:55,399 Speaker 5: Know, but I think up to this point it has 318 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,480 even some things out. You see parody in these big 319 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,600 leagues like the SEC, you see some parody, you know, 320 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,720 and it has even some things out. But it's it's 321 00:17:04,759 --> 00:17:08,839 still a struggle for those you know, mid powered teams, 322 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,680 you know, the power teams to kind of reach that 323 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,000 higher level. I think, you know, I mean, it's it's 324 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,680 it's the wild West, you know. I mean, I'm the guy, 325 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:19,000 you know, get off my lawn, you know, And let's 326 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:20,880 go back to the let's go back to the old 327 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,160 style of recruiting and players or student athletes. But there's 328 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,519 no going back. He can't turn the clock back on that. 329 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:30,960 So everybody needs to compete with the same rules. And 330 00:17:31,279 --> 00:17:34,680 you know, and Garrett's going to talk about a case 331 00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:36,880 right now with the Big Ten, which is kind of 332 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,039 trying to open up you know, less predictability and more 333 00:17:41,079 --> 00:17:43,599 wild wet. So you know, I think if everyone can 334 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,079 get some predictability and there's maybe what's called a salary cap, 335 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:50,359 you know, there might be even it might work out 336 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,680 better for the players for sure. 337 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 338 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: Big Ten pushes on tampering rules and changes as the 339 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:59,400 legal challenges mout, what do you have here with the 340 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,079 Big Ten for tampering rules? 341 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:05,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're and like President said, we're talking about nil chaos, right. 342 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,279 But the other the cousin to that or whatever is 343 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,480 is the transfer portal, right, and so and potential tampering 344 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,079 that's going on. I mean, I just was going to 345 00:18:15,079 --> 00:18:17,119 bring up the fact that you know, we remember Dabo 346 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,519 Sweeney of Clemson, he accused the old miss Coach of 347 00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:24,440 tampering with a transfer player very publicly a couple of 348 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,359 months ago. And this stuff's going on, right, and to 349 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:33,799 what extent and by what schools we don't really totally know. 350 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,480 But the Big ten wants to step in and say, hey, 351 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,599 we need to put a pause on the NCAA investigating 352 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,000 these sort of tampering issues. And the reason they're saying that, 353 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,960 as they're saying, there's just there's a disconnect now between 354 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,759 the old tampering rules that are pre pre house settlement, 355 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,559 pre nil, pre transfer portal and what's going on now, 356 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,319 and that these rules just we can't really the nc 357 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,079 DOUBLEA anyway can't apply these rules in any credible or 358 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,400 equitable way right now to enforce them. And so again, 359 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:10,599 like Preston said, I mean, I think that the cynical 360 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,839 side of this is to say, Okay, Big ten, you know, 361 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,559 I'm sure you're getting what you want to here. They're saying, hey, 362 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,559 in C double A, don't don't look. 363 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: At what we're doing. 364 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: Just you know, the rules don't really work, so let's 365 00:19:21,519 --> 00:19:25,160 not enforce them, and let's just put that on ice 366 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,240 for now until we can get some sort of you know, 367 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,319 rules scheme that's gonna work for everybody. And so who 368 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,400 knows when that's gonna be. 369 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:37,319 Speaker 1: But that's what they want, that's what they want. When 370 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,119 will they get it? 371 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:41,319 Speaker 3: I mean, Donald Trump is getting involved in this. I 372 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,519 mean he's hearing from Nick Saban urban Meyer. I don't 373 00:19:44,519 --> 00:19:46,160 know if those are the guys i'd want to listen to. 374 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:50,279 As far as the uh, you know, opinion makers. I 375 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,720 know they're big names, but those guys were cheating. Those guys, 376 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,559 at least their donors. Those guys were doing backdoor deals 377 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,559 to build up their rosters all day. And now they're 378 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:02,880 gonna come up and be like, oh yeah, let's put. 379 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:03,599 Speaker 1: A salary cap. 380 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,799 Speaker 3: These kids can only make forty thousand dollars a year 381 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,359 plus their scholarship. 382 00:20:08,759 --> 00:20:12,519 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, did we trust you know, what 383 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,279 are they saying. 384 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 5: They're saying, get off my lawn, Get off the lawn. 385 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,599 Speaker 3: Let's go back to the good old days when we 386 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,599 could cheat behind closed. Did you hear the ed Ordron, 387 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,079 like Ed Ordron, the former LSU coach national champion, and 388 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,759 he was asked a question about the new era and 389 00:20:31,839 --> 00:20:34,079 he's like, oh, yeah, like I would love to do 390 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,160 it this era, Like I used to have those guys 391 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,920 coming to the back door. Now they can come through 392 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:38,480 the front door. 393 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 4: Exactly, you know what I mean. 394 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: So anyway, racket, it's a racket. 395 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: It's the it's the only Goopoly's the college football cartel, 396 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,440 the college football caball that you know under the guys 397 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:58,799 of amateurism and uh student athletes. Anyways, gastonov versus NFL 398 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,920 and ESPN Films for far thirty for thirty clip was 399 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:02,920 dismissed by court. 400 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:04,519 Speaker 1: Last thing here, what do you got for me? 401 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is an interesting case. You know, I've watched 402 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:12,680 a lot of those thirty for thirties and ESPN puts 403 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,519 on some really good ones, and I think the best 404 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:20,079 one is the one called what is It Survive? In advance? 405 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,200 The NC State wolf packt that one with Valvano. If 406 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,880 you haven't seen that, you got to watch it. That's 407 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:30,559 that's March madness to it's a heightened degree. But Mark 408 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:34,319 Gastineau as part of the New York Sack Exchange was 409 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,680 on a thirty for thirty where they highlighted these guys 410 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:39,440 during the Jets when they were had a really good 411 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,759 defensive line. Well as part of this production, you know 412 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:49,000 you're watching the program. Here, Gastineau approaches Brett Farv at 413 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:51,839 a trade show or something that Brett Farv's at and 414 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,720 he kind of, you know, he kind of gets in 415 00:21:55,799 --> 00:21:57,480 his face. And the reason he gets his face is 416 00:21:57,519 --> 00:22:01,359 because Gastona up to that point had held the season 417 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:04,960 sack records of like nineteen or twenty sacks in the season, 418 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:09,599 and he the claim was that Brett Favre you know, 419 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,480 took a dive and didn't let Michael Strahan have to 420 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,480 chase him down and sack him, and so he basically 421 00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:21,319 gave the record to Strahan and Gastinos kind of gets 422 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:22,799 in the state says, hey, man, why'd you do this? 423 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,839 She took my record from me. That was uncool and everything. 424 00:22:24,839 --> 00:22:28,480 And so Gastineau doesn't come off looking good in this video. 425 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:31,559 He looks kind of, you know, silly and kind of 426 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,400 a you know, kind of a sour apple guy. So 427 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,400 he sued ESPN Films in the NFL Films over this, 428 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,440 alleging that they had violated his use of name, image likeness, 429 00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:45,759 they breached the contract, and they had maliciously and falsely 430 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,319 presented him in a, you know, an unkind way. Basically, 431 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,680 he looked kind of dumb. But he filed a lawsuit 432 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,240 against this, and the court has come down now and 433 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:59,200 they've dismissed his lawsuit. Basically, they're saying, hey, Mark, when 434 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,000 you agreed to be part of this filming it, you 435 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,359 agreed that we would present this in a way that 436 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,880 we thought was interesting for the people. And this was 437 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,160 filmed and we would edit it and that type of thing, 438 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,480 and we're sorry you kind of agreed to that and 439 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:14,400 being part of this. And so they dismissed his lawsuit. 440 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,279 They basically said, Mark, even if the facts are everything 441 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,240 is you present them and all in light favorable to you, 442 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,400 you still lose this case. So they've dismissed his lawsuit 443 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,319 and hopefully he doesn't appeal it, but he might, but 444 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,559 I think it's a losing cause. 445 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: Gentlemen, always a pleasure, always a blessing, talking sports cord 446 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:34,519 with you. 447 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: That is our segment, guys. 448 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: But you guys know sports and law, but you're best 449 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,559 at injury injury law. 450 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: So tell us how we can support you. 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Always a pleasure, Thanks so much 472 00:24:39,559 --> 00:24:40,000 for hopping on. 473 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 5: Thanks thank you, Ben. Have a good one. 474 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: There you have it. 475 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: That's handy law Utah dot Com little scoreboard report. North 476 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,839 Carolina the sixth seed. You take it on VCU twenty 477 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,720 eight twenty one right now with about five minutes remaining 478 00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:57,920 in the first half, and I believe most the other 479 00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:02,240 games have gone final. TCU sixty six sixty four gets 480 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:05,599 the win Overhio State, Nebraska seventy six to forty seven, 481 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,680 over Troy Louisville eighty three seventy nine over South Florida 482 00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:14,079 high point with the Shocker eighty three eighty two over Wisconsin. 483 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,920 The five seed Duke gets the win seventy one sixty 484 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,799 five over Seattle. 485 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,519 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt gets the win over McNee. 486 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 3: Seventy eight sixty eight, the five seed over the twelve 487 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,839 seed Michigan State ninety two sixty seven, a nice win 488 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,880 for them, North Dakota State, and then Arkansas gets the 489 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,359 win versus Hawaii ninety. 490 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: Seven seventy eight. 491 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: So that's the most recent NCAA tournament score board update 492 00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:41,240 for all you Cougar fans in Cougar Country, and I 493 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,759 believe there was kind of an interesting stat that dropped 494 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,519 regarding as some ESPN insights here, Duke is the eighth 495 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:52,519 one seed in NCAA tournament history to win by six 496 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:55,160 or fewer points against a sixteen seed. 497 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,279 Speaker 1: Now check this out. Three of the previous. 498 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 3: Seven lost their next game, and only one of them 499 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,079 went on to reach the Final four. 500 00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: That was Illinois in nineteen eighty nine. How far will 501 00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:10,400 do go? 502 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: Do they lose the next game, do they lose before 503 00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:18,079 going to the sweet sixteen? Or do they get bounced 504 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,839 to the sweet sixteen? Only one all these teams, right, 505 00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:26,000 what do you got for me, Apee is that they match. 506 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: Up against TCU. So TCU has been on a heater lately. 507 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: If you're buying into teams getting hot, let's go Big 508 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,000 twelve knockoff. Dude, I don't care about my bracket. I 509 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,759 care about the Big twelve right now. I should have 510 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:41,440 hit a bracket of just big twelve homerism. 511 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:42,799 Speaker 1: Did I didn't do it? Did you do a Big 512 00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:45,920 twelve homer bracket? Not intentionally? I don't. I don't think 513 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,680 I did, not intentionally, but maybe subconsciously he did. Possibly possible. 514 00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 3: All right, guys, we'll go to break coming up next, 515 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,519 Dave Rose will join us to preview this BYU Texas 516 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,599 game and get his thoughts on this uh the history 517 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,480 of the NCAA tournament at by U, So make sure 518 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:10,799 you stay tuned UH and appreciate Handy and handy handy 519 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,880 law Utah joining us for a sports score. 520 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: We've got a great show, by the way, uh A