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Speaker 1: What's the verdict on the biggest headlines in sports and law.
Speaker 3: It's time for that Sports Court Each week, we break
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Let's go, gentlemen. How you guys doing today?
Speaker 1: Hey? Good?
Speaker 4: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: Thanks for having us.
Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic. Appreciate you guys joining us. How's your brackets?
Speaker 1: Guys? Are they busted yet?
Speaker 3: How you guys feeling about March maddeness?
Speaker 5: I didn't do it, bracket. I used to do brackets.
I don't do them anymore. And sadly, my excuses because
I used to follow teams when guys would play three
and four years, and you would know teams when they'd
have junior and seniors and they'd had a experienced point
guard and they were battle tested in the tournament. And honestly,
now I just don't even follow a lot of these programs.
You know, it was fun following players through their college
career and then when they went into the pros. It's
just it's lost a little bit of its luster.
Speaker 1: You're you're the get off my lawn guy.
Speaker 5: You know, I still watch it. I still will watch
games tonight, and I like doing that. I just don't
like going into a bracket with you know, I used
to try to put some little time into it when
that probably didn't matter at all.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, high Point and that squad ended up knocking
off with Wisconsin. I mean they got a we got
a five twelve upset. You can just pick all the upsets.
I did one of my brackets. I only hit on
maybe one or two of them. Obviously I did pick
the high Point one, but you know, picking the the
underdog as well, so the Cinderella's or is that you're
rooting for as well?
Speaker 1: We gotta when they got one in high Point.
Speaker 3: They're a three point shooting team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I gotta get back into it.
Speaker 4: Well, I had Wisconsin through to the sweet sixteen, so
so quit rubbing it in, Ben.
Speaker 5: Well, guy, I used to like to have my paper copy,
you know, and crossing out teams and all that, you know,
and it's just, yeah, I'm I'm a little bit get
off my long guy.
Speaker 1: It's okay, man. We all get there, you know, sooner
or later.
Speaker 3: I'm not there yet, you know, but I'm sure I'm
gonna be there here in the next couple of years,
no doubt about it. Garrett Preston Handy on the line.
Let's get into some of the eligibility issues right now.
Eligibility anti trust lawsuits are a plenty. This may be
the last March Madness without former pros. What's the latest
on this with eligibility and March Madness, n CUAA tournament
implications and NBA player implications.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're doing this just as part of you know,
today's March Madness starting. And one of the guys we
go to on our legal issues is Michael mccannon who
writes a lot of articles on legal issues, and in
honor of this, he did a legal issue in the
premise that he threw out there was this, will this
be the last March Madness where we don't have former
pro players NBA players playing for college teams. That's a
crazy statement, isn't. But the reason we're talking about is
because over the last year there have been several eligibility
fights by football players by basketball players and the reason
we're having eligibility fights is for one reason, nil and
there's money to be made. You know, in the past,
guys had five years to play four and when they
were done, they didn't care about you know, running ladders
and windsprints and getting knocked around and getting hit in
the head. They were done with it. But where players
now are seeing the option to extend their eligibility, they're
doing everything they can. The Patriots say that this was
our guy, Diego Pavia, who got an extra couple of years,
you know, when he filed his things. So we've seen
a lot of them going on. And you know, the NCAA,
they they agreed to you know, nil after the courts
came down on it, and they agreed to the House settlement,
which is revenue sharing. But they seem to want to
die on this hill of eligibility, they really do. And
so there are many challenges, and the challenges come out
of this anti trust argument that it's anti competition, And
the craziest ones that we're talking about today are where
former professional basketball players have tried to get additional eligibility,
you know, and so that seems crazy, right, but one
European player he actually was granted eligibility. He won his case,
and a lot of it talked about were these school
related things and the decision. But then the other crazy
one was this guy from that played at Alabama. He
was a really good player at Alabama. He actually got
drafted in the NBA and was relegated to the G League.
And while he's in the G League, he's going, hey,
this isn't very good. You know, someone talked him into
fighting eligibility, and this year he did that. He filed
a lawsuit against the NCAA who said, no, we're not
letting you back in. And he actually won his injunction
and the court said, yeah, we're going to enjoin the
NCAA from enforcing their eligibility rule. And so he actually
played six or eight games for Alabama, and as it
made it through the court, the court looked at it
and said, no, wait a minute, you're not playing. And
right now he's appealing that. So the idea is that
we're going to see a lot of these and you
know what that says here in the article. The legal
hurdle for the NCAA and its members is the new
world challenge of sports increasingly resembling professional sports, and that's
what we're seeing. And so the idea of guys from
professional leagues going back to college is kind of crazy,
but again, they're doing it for money. What could happen here,
Ben is Congress could step in and they see this
problem and they could say, hey, wait, wait a minute,
we are going to exempt any of these claims making
any anti trust claims just because it's really like professional sports.
And as we know, it's professional sports. They have labor
unions and they've agreed, you know, they've agreed by their
contract that they can't pursue anti trust claims. The other
way it could make it is we're going to see
a bunch of these claims and sports Court thanks you
because they give us a lot to talk about. And
the courts are really split on this. Some say no,
you get next three year of eligibility, You get next
three year of eligibility, and some courts are saying, no,
you don't, you don't qualify, you used up your eligibility.
So the courts are going across the board us. So
we're going to see a bunch of these One thing
that could happen is one of these cases goes up
through the court process. It makes it, it gets denied
or gets granted, it gets appealed, and it makes it
to the United States Supreme Court, where they could actually,
if they want to spend their time looking at this,
they could, you know, really give an outline what the
reals on eligibility are. So that's just to talk about it.
With March madness and things going on here and the
eligibility fights, we're gonna see down the road.
Speaker 3: Man, No wonder you to get off my lawn, guy,
because of all these NBA players trying to come back
and make money. It's all about the filthy luker with
these guys.
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's also the one and done guys. You
have a you have a hard time following a team
and knowing who's gonna be there from year to year.
I think that's part of it because the stars, the
stars really are the one and done guys. You know,
they're not the guys that are in their third and
fourth year and you know, and we're all Americans and
that type of thing. That's part of it. But I
do like watching the games. I just don't do my bracket.
That's that's the thing there.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get an update no, and I respect that,
still still watching the games, just not allocating the bandwidth
that you used to and strategically filling it out exactly.
Speaker 1: Maybe you need to put some money on it, like
Kyle she does.
Speaker 3: If you get a little money and on it, then
you're gonna, yeah, you know, put one hundred dollars down,
maybe with some friends and family members on that bracket,
and uh, maybe you'll be filled out. Well, cal she
is essentially doing that right. Prediction market caw she hit
Is has been making some waves over the last year
or so, and now they're getting hit with a big
way with criminal charges in Arizona. What's going on with this?
How different is this than maybe civil cases?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Ben, I mean if you put some money
on a game like you just said, I mean that
is that gambling? Is that sports betting? Or or is
it not right? These prediction markets? I'm not sure. I
totally understand the distinction. Apparently ninety percent of the trading
volume on Call she Is is sport essentially sports betting, right,
So you know, the question is really what is the
distinction here? And that distinction really matters because what the
state of Arizona is doing is they're saying, this is
essentially gambling, and you're operating an illegal gambling operation in
the state of Arizona, and that's against the law. And
so we're going to bring you, bring charges against you
for violating these criminal charges right against this company for
you know, operating in an illegal gambling ring. And so call
She's you know, their defense in this whole thing is
to say, no, no, no, we're not a We're not we're
not we're not doing gambling. We're a prediction market. And
and again, to me, it's sort of a distinction without
a difference. I guess I'm I'm showing my cards here.
I'm citing with Arizona a little bit on this, and
even the state of Utah, who's who said the same
thing in a in a different roundabout way. You know,
Call She's kind of taken the advance the offense here
in the state of Utah, because the question really comes
down to what is a prediction market and and they
would say that they are a commodity futures trading platform
or something like that, right, that these are these are swaps,
you know, instead of betting against the house type of situation.
And so if it's a commodity futures trading that falls
under the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which is a federal agency.
Federal law applies and they can operate these things, and
states don't really have a say, right, and so that
is an issue that's an issue here. It's an issue
of states law versus federal law and what applies and
what are these things? And so of course it has
significance because, like I said, ninety percent of the trading
volume is essentially sports betting. And so you know, we're
going to Arizona's pushing the issue, and I think other
states are going to as well. I think there's a
lot of people that have major concerns about prediction markets.
So we'll see what the courts, what the courts to
do with it.
Speaker 1: I'll say this.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it is fun to get out on
the golf course, bet with the boys, do a little.
Speaker 1: Bracket here and there.
Speaker 3: But I don't know there's like long term impact, especially
for men right now, young men and these betting markets. Man, like,
there's some issues there, like wonder like the there's like
an obviously we know that there's some addictive behaviors there,
right and people can.
Speaker 1: Get underwater real quick.
Speaker 3: Is there a liability issue with some of these like
betting markets as well, from like a personal consumer standpoint
and an addition standpoint.
Speaker 4: I think we're going to see those kinds of cases,
you know, where there's a currently I mean, just as
a quick side note, there's a social media trial going
on right now in southern California. In fact, it might
be wrapping up. But the argument is basically, these platforms,
these apps are addictive, right, and they're designed to be addictive,
and it causes harm to people. And I think it's
a very similar argument for you know, online gaming and
gambling platforms, that they've made these so accessible to all
kinds of people that really shouldn't be doing this, right.
So anyway, yeah, I think we're going to see it. Ben,
to answer your.
Speaker 1: Question, yes, indeed, yes. All right, let's move on to
the football field.
Speaker 3: Nebraska football players are challenging the College Sports Commission and
nil go on nil restrictions. There's a review on these
nil deals. What's going on here?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So when it became as part of the House Settlement,
when it became legal to have nil deals, one of
the safeguards that was put in place later was that
the College Sports Commission would have a chance to govern
NIL contracts. And what they did was they used a
group called nil go to vet contracts, you know, NIL contracts,
and the statistics are that they have actually approved one
hundred and sixty six million dollars in NIL contracts and
they have reviewed there's another thirty million sitting there that
have been reviewed and have not been cleared. Well, there's
eighteen players on the Nabaska football team and they had
some of their contracts in ILE contracts not approved by
nil GO. And we've all heard this that contracts over
six hundred dollars have to be reviewed and approved. And
what was said when this wasn't approved. It basically says
that these football players made media rights with partner play Fly.
They were rejected due to a practice called warehousing. I've
never heard that, in which the entity buys the players
nil rights for future partnerships and endorsements. They're saying that
it didn't comply with what to get the green light
from nil GO clearing house and commercials because it wasn't
really listed, it wasn't specified in the contract. And these
players have decided to challenge this and they are suing
and they've entered into arbitration and apparently these contracts were
combined up to about a million dollars, so it's no
small amount of money. These players have decided to challenge
this and go to arbitration to see if these you know,
if nil go and the commercial they the College Sports
Commission is applying this correctly. I think they're trying to
get just, you know, through this, you know, a lot looser,
you know, everything that's going on with anal contracts and
transfer portal, just be looser with it and less oversight.
So it could be really precedent setting. You know that
these players are challenging that it could be precedent setting.
And I think I think what happened when the house
settlement was agreed to that they wanted some predictability and
some oversight. So you know, we heard we've heard this
term wild West with everything that's going on, and there's
no predictability, there's no safeguards, there's no rules. But this
is one of the rules they're trying to put in place.
And if you look at the percentages, they have approved
a lot of these, but they just didn't prove this
because it looked like they were trying to manipulate it
with these future deals, you know, and it didn't qualify
as I saw it, And so we'll see what happens
at arbitration. All of these guys have separate claims, but
because they're similarly situated and very similar, they're presuming them together.
Speaker 3: Love it, man, it's crazy that, you know, the Nile world.
Speaker 1: Yes, is the wild wild West. It's been chaotic.
Speaker 3: I want to say that it's been a net positive overall, though,
Like especially in football, you know, looking at Indiana win
the National championship and looking at teams like even BYU
and SMU, and you see these these teams Vanderbilt, Indiana
and Vanderbilt have been the worst power for Power five
teams in college football over the last sixty years, and
now their top twenty five programs in Indiana just won
to Natty and b YU is a top fifteen program.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the pendulum's gonna swing, gentlemen, we.
Speaker 5: Know, but I think up to this point it has
even some things out. You see parody in these big
leagues like the SEC, you see some parody, you know,
and it has even some things out. But it's it's
still a struggle for those you know, mid powered teams,
you know, the power teams to kind of reach that
higher level. I think, you know, I mean, it's it's
it's the wild West, you know. I mean, I'm the guy,
you know, get off my lawn, you know, And let's
go back to the let's go back to the old
style of recruiting and players or student athletes. But there's
no going back. He can't turn the clock back on that.
So everybody needs to compete with the same rules. And
you know, and Garrett's going to talk about a case
right now with the Big Ten, which is kind of
trying to open up you know, less predictability and more
wild wet. So you know, I think if everyone can
get some predictability and there's maybe what's called a salary cap,
you know, there might be even it might work out
better for the players for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Big Ten pushes on tampering rules and changes as the
legal challenges mout, what do you have here with the
Big Ten for tampering rules?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're and like President said, we're talking about nil chaos, right.
But the other the cousin to that or whatever is
is the transfer portal, right, and so and potential tampering
that's going on. I mean, I just was going to
bring up the fact that you know, we remember Dabo
Sweeney of Clemson, he accused the old miss Coach of
tampering with a transfer player very publicly a couple of
months ago. And this stuff's going on, right, and to
what extent and by what schools we don't really totally know.
But the Big ten wants to step in and say, hey,
we need to put a pause on the NCAA investigating
these sort of tampering issues. And the reason they're saying that,
as they're saying, there's just there's a disconnect now between
the old tampering rules that are pre pre house settlement,
pre nil, pre transfer portal and what's going on now,
and that these rules just we can't really the nc
DOUBLEA anyway can't apply these rules in any credible or
equitable way right now to enforce them. And so again,
like Preston said, I mean, I think that the cynical
side of this is to say, Okay, Big ten, you know,
I'm sure you're getting what you want to here. They're saying, hey,
in C double A, don't don't look.
Speaker 1: At what we're doing.
Speaker 4: Just you know, the rules don't really work, so let's
not enforce them, and let's just put that on ice
for now until we can get some sort of you know,
rules scheme that's gonna work for everybody. And so who
knows when that's gonna be.
Speaker 1: But that's what they want, that's what they want. When
will they get it?
Speaker 3: I mean, Donald Trump is getting involved in this. I
mean he's hearing from Nick Saban urban Meyer. I don't
know if those are the guys i'd want to listen to.
As far as the uh, you know, opinion makers. I
know they're big names, but those guys were cheating. Those guys,
at least their donors. Those guys were doing backdoor deals
to build up their rosters all day. And now they're
gonna come up and be like, oh yeah, let's put.
Speaker 1: A salary cap.
Speaker 3: These kids can only make forty thousand dollars a year
plus their scholarship.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, did we trust you know, what
are they saying.
Speaker 5: They're saying, get off my lawn, Get off the lawn.
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the good old days when we
could cheat behind closed. Did you hear the ed Ordron,
like Ed Ordron, the former LSU coach national champion, and
he was asked a question about the new era and
he's like, oh, yeah, like I would love to do
it this era, Like I used to have those guys
coming to the back door. Now they can come through
the front door.
Speaker 4: Exactly, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So anyway, racket, it's a racket.
Speaker 3: It's the it's the only Goopoly's the college football cartel,
the college football caball that you know under the guys
of amateurism and uh student athletes. Anyways, gastonov versus NFL
and ESPN Films for far thirty for thirty clip was
dismissed by court.
Speaker 1: Last thing here, what do you got for me?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is an interesting case. You know, I've watched
a lot of those thirty for thirties and ESPN puts
on some really good ones, and I think the best
one is the one called what is It Survive? In advance?
The NC State wolf packt that one with Valvano. If
you haven't seen that, you got to watch it. That's
that's March madness to it's a heightened degree. But Mark
Gastineau as part of the New York Sack Exchange was
on a thirty for thirty where they highlighted these guys
during the Jets when they were had a really good
defensive line. Well as part of this production, you know
you're watching the program. Here, Gastineau approaches Brett Farv at
a trade show or something that Brett Farv's at and
he kind of, you know, he kind of gets in
his face. And the reason he gets his face is
because Gastona up to that point had held the season
sack records of like nineteen or twenty sacks in the season,
and he the claim was that Brett Favre you know,
took a dive and didn't let Michael Strahan have to
chase him down and sack him, and so he basically
gave the record to Strahan and Gastinos kind of gets
in the state says, hey, man, why'd you do this?
She took my record from me. That was uncool and everything.
And so Gastineau doesn't come off looking good in this video.
He looks kind of, you know, silly and kind of
a you know, kind of a sour apple guy. So
he sued ESPN Films in the NFL Films over this,
alleging that they had violated his use of name, image likeness,
they breached the contract, and they had maliciously and falsely
presented him in a, you know, an unkind way. Basically,
he looked kind of dumb. But he filed a lawsuit
against this, and the court has come down now and
they've dismissed his lawsuit. Basically, they're saying, hey, Mark, when
you agreed to be part of this filming it, you
agreed that we would present this in a way that
we thought was interesting for the people. And this was
filmed and we would edit it and that type of thing,
and we're sorry you kind of agreed to that and
being part of this. And so they dismissed his lawsuit.
They basically said, Mark, even if the facts are everything
is you present them and all in light favorable to you,
you still lose this case. So they've dismissed his lawsuit
and hopefully he doesn't appeal it, but he might, but
I think it's a losing cause.
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Speaker 3: That's handy law Utah dot Com little scoreboard report. North
Carolina the sixth seed. You take it on VCU twenty
eight twenty one right now with about five minutes remaining
in the first half, and I believe most the other
games have gone final. TCU sixty six sixty four gets
the win Overhio State, Nebraska seventy six to forty seven,
over Troy Louisville eighty three seventy nine over South Florida
high point with the Shocker eighty three eighty two over Wisconsin.
The five seed Duke gets the win seventy one sixty
five over Seattle.
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt gets the win over McNee.
Speaker 3: Seventy eight sixty eight, the five seed over the twelve
seed Michigan State ninety two sixty seven, a nice win
for them, North Dakota State, and then Arkansas gets the
win versus Hawaii ninety.
Speaker 1: Seven seventy eight.
Speaker 3: So that's the most recent NCAA tournament score board update
for all you Cougar fans in Cougar Country, and I
believe there was kind of an interesting stat that dropped
regarding as some ESPN insights here, Duke is the eighth
one seed in NCAA tournament history to win by six
or fewer points against a sixteen seed.
Speaker 1: Now check this out. Three of the previous.
Speaker 3: Seven lost their next game, and only one of them
went on to reach the Final four.
Speaker 1: That was Illinois in nineteen eighty nine. How far will
do go?
Speaker 3: Do they lose the next game, do they lose before
going to the sweet sixteen? Or do they get bounced
to the sweet sixteen? Only one all these teams, right,
what do you got for me, Apee is that they match.
Speaker 1: Up against TCU. So TCU has been on a heater lately.
Speaker 3: If you're buying into teams getting hot, let's go Big
twelve knockoff. Dude, I don't care about my bracket. I
care about the Big twelve right now. I should have
hit a bracket of just big twelve homerism.
Speaker 1: Did I didn't do it? Did you do a Big
twelve homer bracket? Not intentionally? I don't. I don't think
I did, not intentionally, but maybe subconsciously he did. Possibly possible.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we'll go to break coming up next,
Dave Rose will join us to preview this BYU Texas
game and get his thoughts on this uh the history
of the NCAA tournament at by U, So make sure
you stay tuned UH and appreciate Handy and handy handy
law Utah joining us for a sports score.
Speaker 1: We've got a great show, by the way, uh A