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to the hotline. Welcome in former BYU great one of

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the best linebackers in BYU football history. We got d Nicks,

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my teammate, David Nixon on the line. David, how that

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are you?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: Benjamin Cridl, how you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Living the dream?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: Living the dream all as well?

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Speaker 2: In Cougar Country, By's going to the pop Tarts ball

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man ranked a pone it in a bowl game. We've

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We've experienced a lot of great bowl games in BAU

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football history. Not a lot of them have been against

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ranked opponents. What does it mean to play a ranked opponent?

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At the end of the year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it validates the season that you've had,

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shows that obviously if you're playing a ranked opponent, means

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that you've probably had a good season yourself and gives

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you one more opportunity to go out there to improve yourself.

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It's unfortunate that it's kind of ended in the bowl

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game that you used in versus a playoff, but you know,

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it is what it is. It's just another opportunity. And

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listen to football players, it's unlike basketball or baseball. You

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only have twelve thirteen opportunities this year obviously, fourteen opportunities

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to go out there and play a game that you love.

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And so for me, it's always like, hey, bowl game,

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this is I sent a cake. That's one more chance

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to go out there and compete, and one more opportunity

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to go show that you're an absolute stud and trying

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to make a case for yourself going into the NFL potentially,

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and of course try to end the season an uptick

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and on a good note and get ready for the

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next year.

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Speaker 2: How does a win or a loss, the outcome of

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the Bowl game this year versus Georgia Tech impact your

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opinion of the twenty twenty five football team at BUYU

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added season.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think any will ever I lost

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to not take away the season this Pleas team has had.

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I mean, this season that goes down in history is

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one of the top seasons I think ever given the schedule,

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what Deley's able to do. I think it was really

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impressive to see how BYU coming off what happened last

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year where all they had to do is win one

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of those last few games and they ended up dropping

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Arizona State and they no longer control their own destiny.

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They were basically the same situation this year, and the

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fact that they came through they were able to hold

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strong and dde Iowa State and TCU and finish strong

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and get to the championship game. I mean, that's that's

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really impressive and it shows kind of step in the

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right direction that Klone took his team. So nothing will

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take away this season this Billy team has put together.

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But of course win always is the cherry on top,

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and it kind of kind of pulls you into the

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offseason and get you ready for you know, set you

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on the right mood and right track. And if there's

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anything we've learned from the last few years is you've

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gotta find a way to be three season ranked. You've

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gotta find a way to be the top twenty, so

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you can, you know, climb your way up through that

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top ten faster than if you're underranked. And that's what

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the team has had an issue with, and it's it's

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kind of playing from behind as they try to make

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their way up in that top ten, top eight and

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give you a little bit more grace when it comes

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to losing a game down the road because you only

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drop thet Hugh spots versus b you're kind of dropping

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out of that top twelve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really intriguing to me how how Couler

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Nation collectively is gonna view this game if b YU loses, How.

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Speaker 3: Do they feel about this season? I mean they were

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knocking on the door.

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Speaker 2: They in the minds of bou fans, and I think, yeah,

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I feel the same way. Bo A is not an

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elite team yet, right, you'd agree that they're not elite team.

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They're a great team though, I'd put them, you know,

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in that if they're not a top five team in

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the country, they're probably in between that like to sixteen ranked,

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which that is that where you put them, and they

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can compete and beat those teams in that six to

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sixteen realm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. And I think I think, Listen,

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this new team can compete with anybody if they played

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perfect football. And that was a problem with Texas Tech

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both loss of this year, they by no means played

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perfect football. Your negative to turnover both games, and nobody

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just made play Listen, defensively didn't create any turnovers either,

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and so you know, this was a you know, if

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you want to play with the top teams in the country,

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you've got to play really good football, and boy, you didn't.

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And that's what it comes down to. They they just

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didn't play their best against the top of punt that

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they needed to. And I think that's what the committee saw,

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and I don't agree with them, but I can certainly

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understand the rationale and kind of their quote unquote eye test.

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Boy wasn't competitive in any of those games. And yet

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if you watch the whole games, see Buoy's competitive. You know,

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a halftime, the score was really close, but ultimately they

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couldn't close out the game and finish and and you

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know that's I think that's what I got talalized ultimately.

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But but once again, I I think what they did

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this year, especially with a freshman quarterback, and what Aaron

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Rodgers was able to do to to kind of great

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for him and the guys stets up all around him.

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It was just an incredible effort. Credit goes to Clawney

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coaching staff, certainly the players, but to take the situation

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they were handed was so late in the season as well, right,

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I mean, it's different if it's everything with Jake Retzloff

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went down in January, so they had all spring ball,

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had all summer workouts to all kind of get on

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the same page. But this happened so late in the

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year that they're to scramble the way they did and

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to have the record the way they did. I mean,

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I'm telling you, it's super impressive.

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Speaker 3: What's sorry, ap, What do you got for me?

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Speaker 5: So it's become pretty clear to me that over the

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past past few years, there's a gap between elite teams

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and great teams, and sometimes that gap can be pretty big.

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To the tune of twenty nine to seven loss, Right,

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what does b YU need to do in the offseason

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to close that gap as a program?

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Speaker 4: You know, I went back and watched the All twenty

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two film on the first loss against Texas Tech. And

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then you know, I've obviously watched the game and the

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big teal Teriya Sho. Haven't watched the film, QUI you

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have that one. But here's the thing. Deally is not

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getting dominating the trenches. It's not like we're outmanned against

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the against Texas Tech. Yeah, they got some better athletes

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to serve positions. I think definitely, Texas Tech defense is elite,

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and our offense, you know, always often struggled to move

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the ball and and kind of sustained your eyes. But

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if I wouldn't say us all of a Sud's got

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scrapped their whole program and start from scratch and go

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get different dudes. Gili had the dudes. I think a

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lot of it was just pure execution. And yeah, Move

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was a young quarterback. I mean, Bear gets hurt in

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that Texas Tech game and it changed the whole game plan.

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I mean it's from a defensive guys, if I see

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a quarterback limp and the way Bear was limping, but yeah,

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I'm not going to respect his own reads. I'm not

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going to respect Bear as a runner. And it changes

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the whole game plan. Now you're just sitting Duck in

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that pocket. I'm gonna come after him, right, And that's

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exactly what Texas Tech did, And so both games are

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just different. I think the all the first game against

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Texas Tech, Bear on the road, big twelve environment gained it.

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I think all just kind of got to him. Frankly,

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I mean that that's kind of the first game. You

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saw Bear get rattled. He took a hit early in

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night game. If you remember, he tried to leap over

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one of the Texas Tech defenders and they just absolutely

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bodies slammed into the ground. He wasn't the same after that,

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and I think I think some of that carried throughout

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that first loss and the second loss, you know, after

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he gets hurt, is a different ballgame too. And I

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mean that's since the game of football, right, quarterback ruled everything.

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So if your quarterback's not dial dialed in it, it's

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gonna be a long day. But you know, I think

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Ba can be with Texas Tech. I didn't think I

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can be, honestly with anybody in the country, especially with

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the defense the bill he had. As we've seen Bauties,

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he just can keep him in any game. What Bou's

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defense did not do, like I said, is create turnovers.

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And and if if your offense is struggling the way

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the Buy's offense was struggling against this elite Texas Tech defense, defensively,

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you've got to go out through and create some opportunities

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and you've got great short fields and you got great

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pods and situations for your offense to try to get

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some points on the board. And candidly, the buoy deffense

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didn't do that. And I know it's tough to do

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against a team like Texas Tech that takes care of

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the ball, but you know that that's on the BOE

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d to to step up and make some plays. And

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like I said, both games against Sextion Tech, nobody really

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made those game breaking plays, right, And and that's the

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difference between a team kind of being where BA is

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and was versus a team that's being elite. I mean,

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look look at Texas Tech and what ro Rodriguez did

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and the other linebacker I'm blanking at his name that

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had two picks against the BAU in the championship game.

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Those dudes stepped up and made plays like That's as

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simple as that and you just got somebody got to

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step up and make a play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Roberts was a baller in that game.

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Speaker 2: We weren't even we weren't even uh, you know, talking

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about him leading up to that, that that particular game,

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we're worried about Jacob Rodrigus. That instead, Roberts just completely

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took over that game defensively.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: The d Knicks a lot of b YU fans right

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after that second Texas Tech game, they said, Ben, why

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aren't we pushing the ball down field? Why do you

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think a Rod was hesitant maybe pushed the ball downfield

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or maybe you know, maybe there were routes run. If

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you check the all twenty two, Bear just wasn't pushing

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it downfield.

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Speaker 3: What was the story there, do you think?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it was a combination of just texted

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text front four. Really, the pass rush is you know,

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tough to contain, so I think thea you had to

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keep extra blockers in. I joked that, hey, just stretch

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it down field and maybe we'll get a past their apference.

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That could be one of your biggest plays of the game.

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And sure enough, the what you drew one late in

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the game on a past interference, so you know, I'm

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not sure what it was. I agree, you've got to

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use of dropping it down to his checkdowns and just

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being a little more decisive. Like when you go back

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from watching the film, there are certain windows that he

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should be getting the ball out in that first window.

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in the second window, and a lot of times he

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completed it. But as he mature, grow, so get it

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out sooner and and uh, you know that opens up

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and allows more big plays to occur. But you know,

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fall down the field. I don't know the extent of

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his injury, whether you know, on that front foot, if

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he felt comfortable enough or not, of pushing off on

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that front foot and trying to push the fall downfield

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in the championship game, but it was kind of the

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same thing that happened in the first game. Like you said,

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the passing game was almost non existent, which, uh, you know,

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if you're one dimensional, it's and it makes it makes

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Speaker 3: What do you like about this BYU football team this year?

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Speaker 2: Where do you maybe rank it amongst the best BYU

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teams and BOAU football history.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be out there. I don't know

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where it brings exactly, but you look at this defense,

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like I allude to earlier, they only give up nineteen

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points a game. I mean that's that's elite, that's it,

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and that's a big twelve play, right, I mean that's goods,

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good competition. I think this team and what's going to

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deal with the cards that were dealt. I look at L. J. Martin,

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the way he stepped up, uh, and you know with

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with the young quarterback Frankton. I think the way the

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Bear performed from for the beast majority of the season,

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the way the Bear was able to take care of

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the ball, right, it was really impressive. He ended the

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season regular season. I know we obviously there's a bowl game,

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but fourteen touchdowns, only six interceptions, you know, sixty four

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percent completion percentage, like that's sixty plus from a freshman.

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ability that for BIL you to finish right, and that's

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something they failed to do last year. They go back

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in the offseason, all the juniors that are now seniors

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noted how painful that was that. You know, they at

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one point last year they control their own destiny, and

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they faltered. They slipped during the you know, during the

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home stretch. But this year, after losing to Texas Tech,

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they smacked TCU. They go on the road to Cincinnati,

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you know, beat him handily, and you come home, you

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smack UCS like they took care of business. And and

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and that's that's the step in the right direction. Now,

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your ship game next year and you win at this time, right,

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just impressed with this team. Kind of, like I said,

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the steps they made in the right direction of taking

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care of business and finishing the season strong and showing

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that they're listen there, they're they're forced to be wreckfled with.

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the Attorney starters. I look at that secondary. I mean

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the return almost ever been that secondary except for Tanner Wall,

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you know, uh, defensive line obitio. See who decides to

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come back and what pieces they can add there. Some

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of those young guys, I'll see the Atana and Nusutama

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this boy team that You're gonna be returning a lot

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of dudes next year, and I'm sure there'll add some

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more guys in the portal. But I think that's what

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gets me most excited move forward is its Colonie has

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built and savage this culture uh and and you just

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kind of keep plugging guys in and the older guys,

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the veteran guys are coaching up to younger guys, and

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it becomes kind of this culture of uh. You know.

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that's true. I think these guys are learning from one

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another and the results are paying off. On the field,

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I mean eleven and two. That's man, what a fun season.

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It's incredible they were able to kind of right off

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what they did against the competition that they did.

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As far as you know, you look at this BYU

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team at the beginning of the year, Jake Redslove leaves right,

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and there's some question marks around the offense and who's

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gonna lead it.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Jakins up at Tulane and then leads his team

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to the College Football Playoff.

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Speaker 2: Uh. BYU's on the outside looking in now, back to

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back years.

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Speaker 3: Pretty crazy? How dat?

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Speaker 2: I'm super happy for Jake, obviously wish him nothing but

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the best. But it makes you wonder. And we've had

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this debate on the show. Do you think BYU is

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better with Jake? You look at what he did at Tulane.

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You look at his stats, right, I don't know if

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his supporting cast is as strong.

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Speaker 3: The resources said.

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Speaker 2: Do you think by you would have been better off

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with Jake or with Bear this year, remember Bear, we

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took care of the ball, ran the ball extremely well.

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Speaker 3: Statistically, they kind of look.

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Speaker 2: Similar this year in many ways, not a whole lot

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of difference there.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 4: No, it's a good question. I mean we know that

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you kind of lived and died by Jake, right. He

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was a gunslinger, which was fun to watch, but also,

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as we remember from the Kansas game and Oklahoma a

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couple of years prior, like you can also bite you

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with his gun slinging. And I think that was that

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was the one thing with Bear coming this season. I

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think Aaron just said, listen, we're not gonna air it out,

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do a lot of play action. We're gonna run the ball,

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play action. We'll have a couple guys run some routes

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and we're gonna make really reade, really easy throws for you.

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And he made those throws, right, He made it. When

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they had the count, he stepped up in the pocket

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a louted pass rushes and Barret Bachmayer delivered. Jake was

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was just he was a different type of player. He

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also keep beat with his legs clearly, but he also

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you know, he made some spectator throws. We also put

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in some tough situations, right, I mean, you look at

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his numbers. You've probably broken this down before as well.

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But he also had fourteen touchdowns six interceptions with Helene,

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so some pretty comfortable numbers to to what Bear had.

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And I'm trying to try to look at this. It

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looks like Barre at twenty seven hundred passing yards and

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Jake had yeah, twenty eight secy two, like not super

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far off, right, it boasted with the same touchdown intertation ratio.

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I don't know. Jake was a gamer. I love, I

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loved how he competed. But I think we all can

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you know, I think we all agree that there were

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times where he would drop back. We all kind of

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held our breas like, oh boy, but what's gonna happen here?

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And a couple of times he escaped the pocket he

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would try to fourth of all and you know, and

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put the defensive of und But I don't know, this

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is a good question. I just always kind of laugh.

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How you know, Ben, you and I we played in

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the Mountains Conference days, and how we just dreamed of

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having access to, you know, the playoffs and having a

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chance to go win a national title. And here we go,

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we get in the Big twelve. And now looking back,

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this Juwie football team would have been in a better

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spot to have been in the Mountain West probably and

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make the playoffs and they are in the Big twelve.

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So that's the kind of irony here, but you know,

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it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me piggyback off of that too.

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Speaker 2: So as soon as b why you got into the

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power structure, right, the power conference structure as an institution,

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Now this is a good thing and a bad thing

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to a degree. I asked Tom Homo this question as well.

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With this fact, so as soon as they got in

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to a p FORO conference, all of a sudden, you know,

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revshare was implemented. So meaning the twenty million that you

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got from the team deal that was supposed to then

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help with buildings, organizational design, maybe more FTEs, more you know, employees,

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you know, more personnel, right for all of us Red

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Group guys that need a little bit more mentorship, all

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those things, right, you just took it away, man, and

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then you give it to the players. So it's great

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you give it to the players, right, but you like,

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Utah's got a thirteen year head start of that twenty

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thirty forty million from an organizational design standpoint.

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Speaker 3: You know how much twenty thirty forty million can do

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for your.

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Speaker 2: Business as you invested in personnel and technology and buildings

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and infrastructure, you know, in your own industry.

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Speaker 3: And so it's kind of like it's.

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Speaker 2: Very ironic that that happened right as by you got in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a little bit of unfortunate that case.

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I mean, here's the thing. Creds a BYU listen, creigs

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a BOE boosters, and probably some people listening like BYU

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stands just stepped up and I go, I go back

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to the side of the way to there keep Klannie

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here and uh you know how that was booster driven

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as far as coming up with the funds and poor

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name with with the administration and keeping him here. I mean,

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uh that Billy isn't a good spot. And not only

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from Kilannie and the coaching staff and the players, but

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from the support. And you look at you know, Bill

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you selling out every game and and and the support

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they've had, and you look at the booster money coming

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through for an Il, and and also to help with Klannie,

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Like you put all that together and and and Billie football,

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I don't think it's ever been in a better spot, right,

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I mean, yeah, yeah, bill You've kind of got the

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shaft this year. I think we'd all agree with getting

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the playoffs and and it's something that you know, where

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we did control our DestinE. We didn't win the championship game.

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But all in all, like the trajectory and the outlook

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moving forward for Bulli football, I don't think it could

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be any better. Candidly, I mean, I think with keep

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locking in Kilannie, keeping a staff pretty much in tact,

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and who knows, maybe there might be one or two

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guys after the season's over, after this bowl game's over

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they decided to move on and take promotions. We will see.

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But all in all, I mean, it's kind of a

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miracle that that client has been able to keep this

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stack together for as long as he has. And I

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think that speaks volumes to Klanie and what he's built.

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I think it speaks volume to us fans of our support.

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I think the coaches stilled that support, they appreciate that support,

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and I think, like I said, everything's just moving the

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right direction. I think players fill that support, right. I

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think players realize it's a special place to place to

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play and they want to play here. And I don't know,

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I mean, they haven't been two over the top optio missing.

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I just think that buy football is and one of

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the best spots it ever had been. And you know,

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hopefully from here you just keep building on these eleven

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two type seasons and go go get a bowl game, win,

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and go twelve and two and he build on that,

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bring back a lot of guys and start preseason ranked

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and just work your way up from there.

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Speaker 2: You're in the real estate world, do you you you

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rubbed shoulders a lot of big business finance, private equity

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VC guys. What do you make of you getting into

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the private equity game picking on an flex of cash

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five hundred milih.

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Speaker 3: The impact there?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the government's going to let it happen,

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I'll be honest, I don't know, but it could happen.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of it?

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Speaker 4: Nix, We'll see. I'm really really curious to see what

475
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the details of that deal are, right, I mean, is

476
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it a drawdown over ten years, five years is a

477
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media capital infusion up front? Like what what what are

478
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the terms of that partnership looks like exactly? And then

479
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and then yeah, we all know companies that have had

480
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private equity invest in them, and a lot of times

481
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there's those guys are sharks, so they want to return, right,

482
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and so what what happens when when you're not quite

483
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getting a return that you uh, that you promised, well,

484
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you start trimming the fat. So I don't know, it's

485
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that's gonna be a really interesting one to play out.

486
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And obviously it's the perst of it's kind as it

487
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had been kind of stated. So they're more or less

488
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pioneers in that world. But yeah, we'll see if if

489
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if the government steps in and shut it down or

490
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what happens there. But you know, good, that's a lot

491
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to be I think they've got more problems than just that.

492
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And those guys are trying to figure out what Morgan

493
00:21:56,839 --> 00:21:59,000
Scully coming out and being the head coach, which I mean,

494
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I know Morgan person guy, you know, but they've gotta

495
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he's got a lot of pressure on him to go

496
00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:06,599
fill in those the shoes of Kyle Whittingham, like that's

497
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,799
a lot of pressure to follow you to see kind

498
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of what happens up there and in Salt Lake. But uh,

499
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that's what I'm saying. I think I think U y

500
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,039
U is in a a good spot. And you know,

501
00:22:17,079 --> 00:22:19,559
one thing we haven't touch about is what happens with Kyle. Obviously,

502
00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:21,599
it sounds like his name is getting rumored in other

503
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,519
head coaching searches. And what happens is he takes a job,

504
00:22:24,599 --> 00:22:26,559
is he all of a sudden takes some you know,

505
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,920
Jason Beck with him, and he kind of takes some

506
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of their staff, and there's some and some of their players.

507
00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:34,359
I mean, we'll we'll see. I I don't it's pretty

508
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,400
clear he wasn't done coaching from kind of how everything

509
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,839
was handled. So uh, I think the next thing we

510
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should be pretty telling and pretty interesting for for the

511
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use up there on what happens with Kyle and what

512
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happens with that programs.

513
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Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

514
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Speaker 2: D Nick's best way to support you what you do,

515
00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:50,880
how you do it. I know you're in the real

516
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estate world, so if those that are listening to want

517
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to align with you, they're looking for commercial real estate

518
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investment opportunities.

519
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Speaker 3: Uh, lease opportunities. What what what can they do to

520
00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:01,799
get hold of you?

521
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, reach out on LinkedIn or Twitter, but I still

522
00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:08,039
called Twitter, X, reach out on X you know whatever.

523
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,640
I think my dams are open. I don't know how

524
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,880
that all works, but yeah, feel pretty reach out. Love

525
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,839
to help you. But in the meantime, I'm excited for

526
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,200
the JA football teams. Next week will be I think

527
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,880
it's a great way to finish. And can we talk

528
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,319
about I mean, I haven't seen any but this whole now?

529
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,799
Have there beeny holdouts per se yet? Have you seen

530
00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:26,240
that happen?

531
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: You say, for for Byu and he you talking about

532
00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:31,920
for Brigham? Nothing yet. The only concern I think right

533
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,559
now is LJ.

534
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 2: Martin because he's going through the uh the pre draft

535
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,839
process and the grating process.

536
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,279
Speaker 3: Uh so that hasn't occurred just yet. Uh. But yeah,

537
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,119
give me a little prediction projection.

538
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,559
Speaker 2: Do you think LJ? I mean, do you think he's

539
00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:51,119
a Day two guy? Is he a Day two NFL

540
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,039
draft pick? And if he is, does he if you

541
00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:56,480
were his brother, you were his father, you were his agent,

542
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,119
you know what I mean, what would you be telling him?

543
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty tough to follow up but he

544
00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:04,000
LJ did this year right, thirteen hundred rushing yards. He

545
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,960
who's banged up a little bit, but he ever signed

546
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,640
a half yards to carry. Like as much as I'm

547
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:10,519
I want to be selfish and has him come back

548
00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:14,039
to another year like it's there was a pre dominant

549
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:17,000
performance he had throughout the season, you know, And I

550
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,440
guess the pitch would be, hey, you got there back

551
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,319
for another year, so you've got you know, he's not

552
00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:24,480
got one year ange his belt. You guys get dynamic duo.

553
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:28,599
But you know, I think for al Jason come down

554
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,920
to kind of what he runs in that forty times

555
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,519
and and you know, I think that that will be

556
00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:36,640
pre telling of what day he gets drafted, whether he's

557
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,640
a Day two or Day three type kid. But you know,

558
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,920
he's the NFL time running back. He's a bruiser. I mean,

559
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,720
look what Tyler o Jeer has done. He's not that

560
00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:46,759
feature back per say, and I don't know if l

561
00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:48,680
J will quite be a feature back in the at

562
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,319
the next level, but he's a bruiser. He's gonna get

563
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,279
you those couple of those couple of yards you need.

564
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,000
I mean, there's a spot for him on an NFL

565
00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:59,400
roster for sure, but you know, well we'll see. I mean,

566
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,160
I for him, I guess said it'd be stuff. Come

567
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,519
back and you know, have a better season. I think

568
00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:07,279
that he's had otherwise, other than the fact that he

569
00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:09,880
probably can hopefully stay healthy and just be abtle healthier.

570
00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:13,079
But I don't know, maybe it's just what happened to him.

571
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,359
I'm just more impressed with the fact that there's not

572
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,920
really any holdouts for Bye's football team. I mean this

573
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:21,039
typically you have a whole bunch of older guys that

574
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,440
are often for the draft. And the fact that clients

575
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,640
able to you know, Jay Hill and and Rodbert can

576
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,160
be able to convince their guys all go out there

577
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,599
and play one last time. I mean, I think that

578
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,960
speaks a lot to this really football culture as well, right,

579
00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:33,640
I mean, I think it's more about the team and

580
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,400
not about the individuals. And I'm pretty impressed with all

581
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,039
the guys buying in and being all the sacrifice for

582
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,119
buy a little bit, even though as we know, this

583
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,599
bowl game is kind of meanless when it comes down

584
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,480
to you know, wreckers per se. But I think if

585
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:49,279
there's a lot of pride on the line, and I said,

586
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:51,920
I think the culture self clients is still dead and

587
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:53,440
the guys the type of guy that bought in and

588
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,960
will to go out there and do one more time.

589
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,079
I think that speaks volumes about where this team is at.

590
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Speaker 2: DNX David Nicks and former b YU great great catching

591
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,359
up with you man, Thanks for hopping on for keeping

592
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up with the cougar segment.

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Speaker 4: It's always fun. Thanks guys, Thank you.

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to discuss with John who he thinks the next head

606
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coach will be at Michigan.

607
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Speaker 3: Will it be Kyle Whittingham?

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Speaker 2: Will it be Kaylin de boor will it be Kenny

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