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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to GameSpot after Dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Our next gen console reviewers Michael Him and Matt paget

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<v Speaker 2>put an end to the console wars with.

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<v Speaker 1>A good old fashioned debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick around for the second half when GameSpot community members

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob McCourt, Ian Preshilt, and Fogey Bear joined me to

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<v Speaker 2>weigh in on who they think won this debate. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to check out some of their work, see

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<v Speaker 2>the description down below. Hello and welcome to episode sixty

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<v Speaker 2>seven of GameSpot After Dark. This is a special episode

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<v Speaker 2>because both the new consoles are out now. Hopefully if

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<v Speaker 2>you're listening, you're able to get one. If you're like

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<v Speaker 2>me in order from Target, you probably don't have it

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<v Speaker 2>yet because you don't have your PS five yet because

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<v Speaker 2>Target's useless. But anyway, Joining me this week is Lucy James. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>Ours five reviewer Matt Paget Hey, and our Xbox reviewer Michaelsoft.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>What up?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, that's a That's why they got me on the case, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I know I know all about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Microsoft already bought you, uh and I'm just kidna kick

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<v Speaker 2>it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't look like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a special episode because both of you have

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<v Speaker 2>reviewed the new consoles and we are going to dig

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<v Speaker 2>right into them.

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<v Speaker 5>And you guys have the new consoles. And Jake and

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<v Speaker 5>Lucy were there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're here to actually how you see.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have a very important job though, because Lucy

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<v Speaker 2>and I are going to be moderating the first and

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<v Speaker 2>last console debate of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I have gathered a list.

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<v Speaker 2>Of topics hell yeah, that we are going to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to time each of you, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how long, and you're going to get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Each of these.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all tell us about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, that's a surprise.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait wait wait is there a mute button? Or can

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<v Speaker 6>I talk over Michael the entire time?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, wait wait, Jake, do you have mute abilities?

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<v Speaker 2>I do, I might mind, I can only meet myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't mute us.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're not We're not fucking idiots who knock over

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<v Speaker 6>our opponent and make an embarrassment out of our goddamn country.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we'll let Jake and Lucy be the judge

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<v Speaker 4>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, we have nine topics here that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go over. We're going to do each one and when

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<v Speaker 2>we're done. I am going to meet with a handful

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<v Speaker 2>of judges I've selected and they're going to listen back.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know who these judges are, by the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, and they'll determine who the winner is. I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, Lucy, I just don't want to tell these

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<v Speaker 2>two because they might try to pay them off or something.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, Wow, blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt and I are not the people to be paying

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<v Speaker 4>off people because we are at the bottom of the barrel,

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<v Speaker 4>you know the vibes.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, man, we couldn't even pay for our consoles. We

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<v Speaker 6>had facts, we had to review them to get them.

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<v Speaker 1>So there. But anyway, you guys ready.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, let's let's fucking get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the timing, so I feel like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>give you each a minute to talk about the topic

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<v Speaker 2>of your on your console, and then afterward you'll each

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<v Speaker 2>get thirty seconds to do a bit of a rebuttal like,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, if you think the Xbox controller isn't as

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<v Speaker 2>cool as the PS five controller or whatever, then you

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about that. But when you're when it's your point,

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<v Speaker 2>when it's your turn, try not to try not to

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<v Speaker 2>belittle the the other console.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can help it.

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<v Speaker 4>No promises.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one we have here is console design.

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna flip a coin to see who go.

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<v Speaker 3>Coin?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, how about how about PlayStation Matt goes first because

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<v Speaker 2>P comes before X in the.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, okay, absolutely, all right, good, A lot of

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<v Speaker 6>thought put into this, Jake, Oh okay, now I can

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<v Speaker 6>go all right. Well, the PlayStation five's design is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's like the most unplaystation looking PlayStation since the

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<v Speaker 6>original PlayStation. I guess because after the original PlayStation, they

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<v Speaker 6>all looked exactly the same. They were all black plastic

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<v Speaker 6>with a PlayStation logo on them, and and honestly, like I,

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<v Speaker 6>I hated the pet the p S five design when

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<v Speaker 6>it was first revealed. I thought it looked stupid and

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<v Speaker 6>that it looked dumb right up until it came to

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<v Speaker 6>my house and I opened it up. I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>this looks a lot better in person. It has like

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<v Speaker 6>matte white plastic with a nice like it's it's like

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<v Speaker 6>a black gloss sandwich with two pieces of matte white bread,

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<v Speaker 6>and it looks great when standing up its side. It

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<v Speaker 6>looks kind of stupid because it's kind of isn't as

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<v Speaker 6>sturdy as you have. But but standing up ending vertically.

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<v Speaker 6>It sounds really great.

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<v Speaker 5>I like how that one was a story of redemption

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<v Speaker 5>overcoming all odds.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>I really went through a journey with that one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be a little tougher for you because

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to constant you have to talk about here,

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<v Speaker 2>which is something I didn't consider.

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<v Speaker 5>No, Or is this a real boon for Michael because

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<v Speaker 5>he gets to cherry pick the best listen?

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<v Speaker 4>I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it well with that in mind, Michael Gough.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, you said it best, Matt. That thing, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what the hell that thing's supposed to look like.

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<v Speaker 4>PS five is huge. I think it's hulking. That thing

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<v Speaker 4>is huge, and it's like very unelegant, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to be sticking that in like entertainment center or

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<v Speaker 4>standing up vertically on my drawers or nothing. That that

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<v Speaker 4>thing looks like I got a pop collar, and like

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<v Speaker 4>pop collar is can look cool. It don't look cool

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<v Speaker 4>on the PS five xboxeries X. It's just a it's

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<v Speaker 4>like a sleek just a brick, and you put it

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<v Speaker 4>wherever it needs to go and then you just forget

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<v Speaker 4>about it. It's just a system. That's just right there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's nice. You'll notice it at first because it's

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<v Speaker 4>not it's a little bit different from other Xboxes, but

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<v Speaker 4>once you start using it, you don't even need to

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<v Speaker 4>worry about it being there. And the series S is cute.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so cute. I have it right here on my desk.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a little little ass Xbox that packs a

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<v Speaker 4>little punch and it's cute and it's very simple design.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you don't you people walk into your house and

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<v Speaker 4>be like, oh shit, that's an Xbox rather than PS five,

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<v Speaker 4>Like the hell is that that? Like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>that shit look wild?

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<v Speaker 1>You're at a time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I did like the sleek brick.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think those two words have ever been used

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<v Speaker 2>in the same sleek brick.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it worked. Oh shit, that's an Xbox, matt rebuttal,

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the Xbox consoles look very nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And.

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<v Speaker 6>I I love the monolithic like shape of the Xbox

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<v Speaker 6>Series X. I have a control wallpaper to the right

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<v Speaker 6>of me, and it looks like those monoliths in the

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<v Speaker 6>like main area that surround the pyramid, and it just

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<v Speaker 6>like it looks. It looks sleek and and the little

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<v Speaker 6>Xbox series as really wins me over with its side.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's time. I guess you kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't they look good?

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<v Speaker 1>What can I say, Michael? Do you want to say

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<v Speaker 1>anything to that or do you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sure, I'll say a little something. Well, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what's up. I like. I like how xboxes look like.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not trying to trash PlayStation five because I'm getting one.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be in my entertainment center and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>But man, that thing looked nasty. Bro. The funny thing

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<v Speaker 4>is like you told the redemption story, Matt, but mine

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<v Speaker 4>was the reverse because we were Lucy and I were

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<v Speaker 4>on the live stream and we're like, yo, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>PS five. That's wild crazy to that are the goal

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<v Speaker 4>with something completely different. And then when I actually saw

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<v Speaker 4>when Blessing got his I was like, that'shul look kind

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<v Speaker 4>of whack.

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<v Speaker 1>That's time all right, now, good timing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting better.

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<v Speaker 5>No, sorry, Jake, what we're saying?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Who who had the better argument?

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<v Speaker 2>Here?

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<v Speaker 5>Do I get? I get like to call per round

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<v Speaker 5>and then you have like a panel of judges to

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<v Speaker 5>pull pull at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of ours are more unofficial, like just based on

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<v Speaker 2>based on feel, and you can also like throw in

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<v Speaker 2>your own personal taste too.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that you have both too, write I do.

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<v Speaker 5>My ex arrived yesterday, Thank you, mister FedEx man.

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<v Speaker 4>And Phil.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm big Phil. Well, no, I paid for it, but

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<v Speaker 5>Phil did nothing, So I think I think both arguments

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<v Speaker 5>are good, but I think Michael's was more concise and

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<v Speaker 5>to the point, and bonus points from me from managing

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<v Speaker 5>to cover both consoles so concisely. Also, Matt, you did

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<v Speaker 5>sort of help out Michael, which.

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate you. Matt, I speak the truth. I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a fighter for the truth. I'm on no sides.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm speaking to the truth running up here in Canada exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>But personally speaking, I absolutely prefer the X over the

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<v Speaker 5>PlayStation five. I tried to get whacky with it with

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<v Speaker 5>the PlayStation. I tried to be on board with it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I am afraid that I just just like things

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<v Speaker 5>to be not wacky in my home. Look, even this

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<v Speaker 5>little air purified down here, that's too wacky for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's on the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why it's on the ground. I was going to

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<v Speaker 5>hide it, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a p S five, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really do like the Xbox series X and

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<v Speaker 2>S look quite a bit, just because they're very simple

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<v Speaker 2>and in terms of like that whole that whole argument,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think Michael had that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Love. We'll see what the judges think. We'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>the judges think.

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<v Speaker 4>What are these judges?

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Man said, Michael had that one judge judgement.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a judge, Matt, You're so sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Next topic is hold on while I get the

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<v Speaker 2>timers set up again?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the controller? Michael? Do you want to start?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure? I'll go first.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>The Xbox controller has its design has been on points

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<v Speaker 4>since the three sixty days. All they really need to

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<v Speaker 4>do is iterate on it, and that's what they did

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<v Speaker 4>some important refinements. So the bumpers are a lot smoother

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<v Speaker 4>just like a nice tactile feel, but it extends to

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<v Speaker 4>my hands. I'm like, listen, I'm not trying to relax,

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<v Speaker 4>but like I was like, oh, this feels really nice,

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<v Speaker 4>all the share button's cool like a PlayStations had it

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<v Speaker 4>for a while, but finally Xbox got it. That's cool

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<v Speaker 4>to see. But other than that, like everything else that

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<v Speaker 2>Damn that was right at one minute. Good timing. PS

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<v Speaker 6>shape and overall ergonomics of the dual Shock four, which

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<v Speaker 6>does a little extra on is the rumble and this time,

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<v Speaker 6>they've employed haptic feedback and dual sense adaptive triggers, which

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<v Speaker 6>sounded like a gimmick and I didn't believe it until

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<v Speaker 6>I actually tried it, but they enhance your gaming experience

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<v Speaker 6>in meaningful, tangible ways that above specs. I'm a big

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<v Speaker 6>spec guy, I'm a big PC guy. I'm a big

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<v Speaker 6>Xbox one X guy. I'm looking at games coming out

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<v Speaker 6>how this plays with a dual sense in my hand,

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<v Speaker 6>and that is an incredibly meaningful thing that I hope

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<v Speaker 6>developers make use of because it would be a damn

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<v Speaker 6>shame if they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's time. It was good timing as well. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>hearing the stuff about we can talk about this now

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<v Speaker 2>because the embargo be lifted by then. But the the

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<v Speaker 2>Xbox or sorry, the dual Sense with Call of Duty

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<v Speaker 2>sounds really cool and I almost wish I pre ordered

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<v Speaker 2>it on PS five.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of Yeah series X. But anyway, Michael, what do

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<v Speaker 4>Listen. You know I'm gonna return in the favor when

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<v Speaker 4>Matt gave me a hand of me the w last

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<v Speaker 4>last round. But I'll say, like the dual sense. Like

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<v Speaker 4>watching that your review, Matt and reading your review, I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, Yo, this this does legit sound like something cool,

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<v Speaker 4>but again, it depends on how developers take use of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm really excited to jump into Astro's playroom and

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<v Speaker 4>really get a feel for it, like when a game

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<v Speaker 4>takes full advantage of it, because you know that stuff

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<v Speaker 4>sounds legit. Man, and uh, I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, I know what. I know what you're saying, Michael.

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<v Speaker 6>The Xbox one controller, more specifically the Elite Series two

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<v Speaker 6>control is one of my favorites of all time. But like,

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<v Speaker 6>the dual sense makes me want to play with that

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<v Speaker 6>more than that two hundred dollars controller, at least for

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<v Speaker 6>the time being, and that's that's shocking to me. I

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<v Speaker 6>like the offset joysticks, so the fact that the dual

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<v Speaker 6>sense has me wanting to use it more is a

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<v Speaker 6>huge feat that I'm I'm even surprised by.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge feet, Huge feet, baby, just like me. So I thirteen, Okay, relax,

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<v Speaker 1>wick feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy, as our as our resident with both conces, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel?

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<v Speaker 5>Excellent points made by the two, But I think I

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<v Speaker 5>will have to give this one to Matt because I

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<v Speaker 5>agree with him. I also in a similar camp. I

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<v Speaker 5>think the Xbox Controller was fantastic. I didn't particularly like

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<v Speaker 5>the iteration that came with Xbox One, but then the

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<v Speaker 5>Elite Series two is my favorite controller. However, what I'll

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<v Speaker 5>say is that playing with the Duel Sense, it's wild

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<v Speaker 5>to see how different the vibration is in the two,

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<v Speaker 5>and how much more elegant it feels in the Jewel Sense.

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<v Speaker 5>The Elite Series two as well. I've noticed I'm playing

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of Assassin's Creed on it is very very

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<v Speaker 5>loud when vibrals.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like yeah, sure, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just think in terms of, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>just they're both just nice, nice bit of tech. But

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<v Speaker 5>the new Xbox controller that comes with the Series X

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<v Speaker 5>does have a dedicated share button now, which is very nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>So, one really cool thing about the Dual Sense, I

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<v Speaker 6>will just slip in here is that you should have

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<v Speaker 6>no no, this is something just for the people. When

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<v Speaker 6>you get you get your Duel Sense, judge is disregard

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<v Speaker 6>listen to the controller, like, don't like there it has

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<v Speaker 6>a speaker, but actually put your ear up against the

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<v Speaker 6>controller and listen to the They're not technically speakers, but

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<v Speaker 6>I think I think they're like some kind of speaker

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<v Speaker 6>motor that they put all throughout that controller, and it

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<v Speaker 6>actually sounds like you're listening to like a wavelength go

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<v Speaker 6>through the controller. It is extremely wild.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA interesting that actually, because the speaker on the PlayStation

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<v Speaker 2>four controller, I turned that off right away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it drives me crazy. I turn that off right away.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think my initial reaction when I saw the

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<v Speaker 2>dual sense stuff was like, oh, I hope this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gimmicky, But after hearing everyone talk about it, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds really cool. Like I said before, I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 2>play shooters with it, in particular because it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing some neat things with that. All right, next one, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to start this time it is back words compatibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Go all right, So.

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<v Speaker 6>I have been I tested the backwards compatibility extensively, and

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<v Speaker 6>it was definitely kind of a question mark leading right

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<v Speaker 6>up to us testing it ourselves. And there is a

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<v Speaker 6>large amount of games that are compatible with this game

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<v Speaker 6>with this console, and they all work really well for

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<v Speaker 6>the most part. There are some that don't see benefits

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<v Speaker 6>from the performance, and then there are even some that

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<v Speaker 6>get graphical glitches, like Resident Evil seven, which it has

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<v Speaker 6>a big skybox at the end of the game that

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<v Speaker 6>just looked like an oil painting canvas, which didn't look

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<v Speaker 6>as cool as it sounds, but still work just fine.

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<v Speaker 6>Performance boosts from games like a seven screen Unity that

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<v Speaker 6>just cause games Dark Souls three, like, it's all really

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<v Speaker 6>impressive and while it's not perfect, like it is awesome

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<v Speaker 6>that I can play my old games on this thing

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<v Speaker 6>when I'm done with the new ones.

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<v Speaker 4>And you had a time Michael, Xbox go Yo, Xbox

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<v Speaker 4>backwards compatibility is undefeated. Xbox really put a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>resources into making sure this shit works and it shows

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<v Speaker 4>like it's similar to PS five in which I explained

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<v Speaker 4>this in like all of my previews and reviews that

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<v Speaker 4>backwards compatible games will get boosts if the games will

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<v Speaker 4>perform more consistently across the board, but if they have

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<v Speaker 4>sixty fps or uncap frame rates, it'll hit those frame rates.

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<v Speaker 4>If it plays dynamic resolution, then it'll stay at a

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<v Speaker 4>higher resolution more consistently. So there's a lot of cases

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<v Speaker 4>in which that is providing a lot a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>benefits to those backwards and patal games, But just the

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<v Speaker 4>sheer library. When I go on a game Pass and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm at a buffet, I got like twenty plates and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm filling them all with up games, you know. And

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<v Speaker 4>EA access just got added to game Pass and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like playing Skate three off this shit, I'm playing Jedi

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<v Speaker 4>Fall in order. There's so many games in the library

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<v Speaker 4>that just work straight up, and yeah, it's undefeated, It's

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<v Speaker 4>it's pretty wild and.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, Matt, do you want to rebut that? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I mean I'll let you, I'll let you

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<v Speaker 1>start Timer, all right. Hey, uh So.

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<v Speaker 6>The great thing about the PS fives backwards compatibility is

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<v Speaker 6>it's intensely awesome. PS four Exclusive library, Bloodborne, Ghost of Sushima,

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<v Speaker 6>the last of US games, the uncharted games, these are

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<v Speaker 6>playable on the PS five, and Goes of t Sushima

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<v Speaker 6>and Days Gone have amazing, amazing higher resolution modes now

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<v Speaker 6>that just make the games look and run really well.

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<v Speaker 1>And hard to beat. Splinter Cell on the Xbox. Though

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<v Speaker 1>you had me at Bloodborne, you could have just stoped

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<v Speaker 1>at Bloodborne. I was like regular man, Michael, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>What I will say is that backwards compatibility on the

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<v Speaker 4>PS five is a lot more surprising and impactful as

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<v Speaker 4>what I'll say, because those exclusives and because of the

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<v Speaker 4>history of PlayStation not embracing that and now that they do,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's just it's kind of a mind blowing thing, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But that doesn't happen if Microsoft and Xbox doesn't push

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<v Speaker 4>for it in the way that they did. So shouts

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<v Speaker 4>out to the ogs on backwards compatibility thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing I don't know if you've tested, but

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that I figured you'd mentioned is the is

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<v Speaker 2>it auto HDR even on games that.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't previously support it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Also, judges disregard this, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is you're looking at auto HDR.

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<v Speaker 6>And not to mention like the the Hoichi method. Upscaling

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<v Speaker 6>Xbox three sixty and Original Xbox Games two four K

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<v Speaker 6>is like the coolest thing ever. I think the most

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<v Speaker 6>my mind was blown last generation was playing Skate three

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<v Speaker 6>on my four K TV and it looking crisp.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's it's not running like native four K obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>but the upscaling is does make it look a lot

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<v Speaker 4>better than shoot just straight up stretching like a seven

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<v Speaker 4>to twenty pm inch or something.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and of course the load times speak for themselves

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<v Speaker 6>Xbox for sure, Lucy.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think for backwards compatibility Xbox? Sorry, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think Xbox for Mentuo. Damn, this next one

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be read for Xbox. This next one's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be rough for Xbox. But Michael, why don't you start

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<v Speaker 2>okay or exclusives?

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<v Speaker 4>Snap? See, Look, you know what I'm saying like Xbox

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<v Speaker 4>and you know saying like games. Look, I got like

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<v Speaker 4>Halo Infinite was supposed to be the big thing. Obviously

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<v Speaker 4>that got pushed. So uh, you know, there's there's nothing

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<v Speaker 4>really exclusive. I mean, the medium is going to come

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<v Speaker 4>out later, but right now we don't know what that

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<v Speaker 4>game is like or what it is going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got to conceive this one. But will will

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<v Speaker 4>I will say is that xbox Is approach to delivering games.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like at least makes up for it because

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<v Speaker 4>you can get so many games off of game Pass

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<v Speaker 4>so easily. I know, PlayStations making strides in that regard,

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<v Speaker 4>but just the wide variety of what's already available on

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<v Speaker 4>Xbox kind of takes the edge off of not having exclusives.

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<v Speaker 4>But if we're just going to talk about Xbox exclusives.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry you hate to see.

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<v Speaker 1>It, Matt, go for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know what, I'll give one to Michael. Jakuza

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<v Speaker 6>is the only next Gen version on Xbox but facts,

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<v Speaker 6>most of the world ain't webs, so there's plenty on

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<v Speaker 6>PS five to enjoy, from Demon Souls, a remake that

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<v Speaker 6>people have been clamoring for for a long time, to

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<v Speaker 6>Spider Man Miles Morales, which is an excellent, excellent sequel

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<v Speaker 6>to Spider Man, not to mention Spider Man Remastered, which

431
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<v Speaker 6>comes with the Ultimate edition, sac Boy, which is a

432
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<v Speaker 6>very pleasant, charming platformer, and Astro's Playroom, which it comes

433
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<v Speaker 6>free with the console and is one of the most

434
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<v Speaker 6>outstanding games of the year, not only for showing off

435
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<v Speaker 6>the dual sense, but also just being pleasant and a

436
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<v Speaker 6>fun walk down memory lane in a Mario like platformer.

437
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<v Speaker 6>It's really really hard to deny that the PS five

438
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<v Speaker 6>has better exclusives and uh and Bugs Next which which

439
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<v Speaker 6>is uh which I've got some some things.

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<v Speaker 2>And time bug ticks. Michael, do you wanna do you

441
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<v Speaker 2>wanna follow that up?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, go.

444
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<v Speaker 4>So I didn't mention Yakuza Like a Dragon because he's

445
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<v Speaker 4>also on PS four and PC. But Yakuza Like a

446
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<v Speaker 4>Dragon is actually the game of the year, and let

447
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<v Speaker 4>me tell you why, because my boy, kosaka Ichi Bond

448
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<v Speaker 4>makes the world a better place. This man is got

449
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<v Speaker 4>the biggest heart he's got he's goofy as hell. That's

450
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<v Speaker 4>my guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh staff right there.

452
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<v Speaker 4>Oh you can't see because we're not doing video. But Matt,

453
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<v Speaker 4>he look even Matt's got a copy of Yakuza Like

454
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<v Speaker 4>a Dragon for Xbox series ICEPT the day each Steel

455
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<v Speaker 4>Book edition. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And time, I like how you took that opportunity to

457
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<v Speaker 2>just talk about Uh, Matt, do you have anything you

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<v Speaker 2>want to add?

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<v Speaker 1>H jakizas Forbes now.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, like I I, Xbox was my platform of choice

461
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<v Speaker 6>if it wasn't on PC. So I'm very excited for

462
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<v Speaker 6>Microsoft's stable to start producing games like held A two

463
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<v Speaker 6>looks amazing, Like what is Bethesda gonna do? What is

464
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<v Speaker 6>Obsidian gonna do? How are Obsidian and Bethesda gonna work

465
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<v Speaker 6>together now that we're like, hey, Obsidian can make Xbox RPGs.

466
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<v Speaker 6>Oh wait, now they own Bethesda? What the hell is

467
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<v Speaker 6>that kind of look like when Avowed and Elder Scrolls

468
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<v Speaker 6>come out within a year of each other. It's gonna

469
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<v Speaker 6>be wild. Guys, Lucy, how do you feel?

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<v Speaker 5>I think right now PlayStation absolutely has the best exclusives,

471
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<v Speaker 5>but I also feel that Microsoft have made some very

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<v Speaker 5>intelligent business decisions. I'm very excited to see not only

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<v Speaker 5>what the future holds with Bethesda and actually whether Bethesda

474
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<v Speaker 5>games will be exclusive to x platforms, but I think

475
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<v Speaker 5>there's also other things with you know, in widening the

476
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<v Speaker 5>stable of first party developers. They've got new studios like

477
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<v Speaker 5>the Initiative. I am that like Complete Guests. I don't

478
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<v Speaker 5>know this, but if they are working on a reboot

479
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<v Speaker 5>of Perfect Dark, which is the rumor, and they have

480
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<v Speaker 5>like all these amazing talent from places like Naughty Dog

481
00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:27.960
<v Speaker 5>and all like I don't know, you can can you

482
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:31.599
<v Speaker 5>hear Greg in the background. He's yelling at someone. He's

483
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<v Speaker 5>saying fucky, and I'm like, no, My point is balid.

484
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<v Speaker 5>I think that the future is bright, and I think

485
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<v Speaker 5>right now both sides have made some very clever deals.

486
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<v Speaker 5>Like I mean, Assassin's Creed is not exclusive to Xbox,

487
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<v Speaker 5>but with the amount of marketing around it, you would

488
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<v Speaker 5>think that it was. And so that game is a

489
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<v Speaker 5>system seller.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm really looking forward to like Crossfire X and

491
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<v Speaker 6>the medium and stuff like that too, Crossfire especially because

492
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<v Speaker 6>Remedy is doing the campaign, but also that multiplayer looks

493
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<v Speaker 6>cool too.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Crossfire X in particular, I described as it looks like

495
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<v Speaker 2>Remedies just doing a Call of Duty game, which sounds

496
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<v Speaker 2>so cool. Like that pitch right there, I'm man, yeah, absolutely, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well to kind of transition from the current exclusives to

498
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<v Speaker 2>the future. Whose future do you think looks brighter?

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<v Speaker 1>Matt? Do you want to start?

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<v Speaker 6>I think I think PlayStation's future looks looks bright. It'll

501
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<v Speaker 6>be interesting to see how much of their catalog is

502
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<v Speaker 6>is new stuff because PS four was very much a hey,

503
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<v Speaker 6>we're gonna let our developers take some wild twists and

504
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:44.440
<v Speaker 6>turns with our franchises, and in most cases it paid

505
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<v Speaker 6>off really well. I mean, God of War was a

506
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<v Speaker 6>huge reinvention for that franchise, and it was great seeing

507
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<v Speaker 6>that God of War two is gonna be or God

508
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<v Speaker 6>Wore Ragnarok, I guess is going to be another like

509
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<v Speaker 6>mid Guard game or whatever the heck you call that stuff.

510
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<v Speaker 6>Norse is a little disappointing. Frozen is a sequel to

511
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<v Speaker 6>Horizon Spider Man. I don't know what you do with

512
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<v Speaker 6>Spider Man from here, but regardless, those games will all

513
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<v Speaker 6>almost undoubtedly be solid. So even if we don't get

514
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<v Speaker 6>as many new stuff this year or this generation, Ratchet

515
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<v Speaker 6>and Klank, that's another great game that's coming out. We

516
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<v Speaker 6>haven't seen one of those in a long time, so

517
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<v Speaker 6>and time maybe it'll be more familiar than I'm still

518
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<v Speaker 6>we still have a good time over here on PlayStation.

519
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<v Speaker 5>We should have went with the mute buttons a lot,

520
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<v Speaker 5>a lot of like for sure games.

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<v Speaker 4>Alright, my guy, Oh, I.

522
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<v Speaker 6>See what's happening your favorite Oh I see the judge

523
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<v Speaker 6>that it's a conspiracy against me.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it because I'm Canadian, Michael. How's the future

525
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<v Speaker 1>for Xbox looking?

526
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<v Speaker 5>Go?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? I am excited for PS five's future, that's

528
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<v Speaker 4>for sure. But the exciting thing about Xbox is that

529
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<v Speaker 4>there's so much. It's sort of an unknown quantity, but

530
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<v Speaker 4>in an exciting fashion, like because of all the studio

531
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<v Speaker 4>acquisitions they and the fact that they haven't really reached

532
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<v Speaker 4>their full potential yet, and you know, the chances are

533
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<v Speaker 4>that they will like to at least two or three

534
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 4>years down the line. I want to see, like y'all

535
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 4>touched on before, like what all these acquisitions amount to.

536
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<v Speaker 4>So I think that PS five is it's hard. I

537
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 4>don't want to say it's predictable, but it is in

538
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<v Speaker 4>a way like we kind of know what those games

539
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<v Speaker 4>are going to be, what those studios are working on,

540
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<v Speaker 4>and what the evolution of those franchisese franchises is going

541
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<v Speaker 4>to be. But I think Xbox is going to can

542
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<v Speaker 4>do some wild stuff with their studios, and I think

543
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<v Speaker 4>that's what excites me more.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, six seconds left? Good, you follow the timer?

545
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<v Speaker 2>We need more of that, Matt thirty seconds.

546
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<v Speaker 1>What do you got? You know?

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<v Speaker 6>I said that it's going to be a familiar generation

548
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<v Speaker 6>based on what we know so far. For PlayStation there

549
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<v Speaker 6>are definitely some smaller developers making some really interesting things.

550
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<v Speaker 6>But like we said, those like I can't imagine a

551
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<v Speaker 6>world where the next got of work comes out and

552
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.160
<v Speaker 6>it's not as good as the original or at least

553
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<v Speaker 6>like still a lot of fun. Like I know, we

554
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<v Speaker 6>don't like to say these games are going to be

555
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 6>good before we play them, but it's really hard to

556
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.079
<v Speaker 6>any of their studios will screw things up, all.

557
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<v Speaker 4>Right, Michael thirty seconds A Damn, I don't know what

558
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<v Speaker 4>to say, but PS four did kind of like towards

559
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<v Speaker 4>the end of its life cycle in eighteen nineteen, and

560
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 4>then this year they kind of fired on all cylinders

561
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<v Speaker 4>to make the PS four go out in style. So

562
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<v Speaker 4>in a way, it's kind of like, I don't know,

563
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:49.279
<v Speaker 4>like it'll be a while until we see things like

564
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<v Speaker 4>God of War or whatever the other studios are working on.

565
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<v Speaker 4>So I just hope Xbox has a lot of stuff soon,

566
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<v Speaker 4>but I don't want to rush it and time. Let's

567
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<v Speaker 4>hope infinites good.

568
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, Michael makes a good point. PS four

569
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<v Speaker 6>started off super slow until like twenty fifteen with Bloodborne,

570
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<v Speaker 6>and then it started to pick up steam. Like every

571
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<v Speaker 6>year it released really good games. So if you know what,

572
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<v Speaker 6>if the Xbox Series X has the same thing, that's

573
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<v Speaker 6>not a bad place to be, right, Yeah, what do

574
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<v Speaker 6>you think, Lucy, It's.

575
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<v Speaker 5>A tricky one. I honestly think the future is bright

576
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<v Speaker 5>for both of them. Like I think I kind of

577
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<v Speaker 5>said this in the last one when we're talking about exclusives,

578
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<v Speaker 5>but like both have made very small acquisitions, and if

579
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<v Speaker 5>they haven't made acquisitions, they've made very smart exclusivity deals.

580
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:42.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean Death Loop and Ghost why Tokyo on the

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<v Speaker 5>PlayStation side, and then are in general on the Xbox side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so weird to bring it back to the

583
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<v Speaker 2>Festa the does that kind of feel like, I don't

584
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<v Speaker 2>want to say cheating, because it's not cheating.

585
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:57.839
<v Speaker 1>They spent a lot of money too it, But does

586
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<v Speaker 1>it feel kind.

587
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<v Speaker 2>Of dirty that they just straight up yeah, those are

588
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<v Speaker 2>all of our exclusives.

589
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<v Speaker 4>Now all you got time exclusive on PlayStation? How about

590
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:07.519
<v Speaker 4>I just kick you seventy five billion dollars?

591
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 6>Oh man I I it definitely uh felt crazy, like

592
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.400
<v Speaker 6>almost as crazy as like Xbox buying Ubisoft or something

593
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 6>like that. It's like one step down from those like

594
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<v Speaker 6>tippy top tier developed publishers, tippitty top.

595
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's wild.

596
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<v Speaker 6>It's gonna be interesting to see what Microsoft does with Befesta,

597
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 6>just because like they can totally make it an exclusive studio.

598
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<v Speaker 6>Phil Spencer said, Hey, we can do whatever we want

599
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<v Speaker 6>with these guys. We don't have to put them on PlayStation.

600
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<v Speaker 6>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't sleep on Double Fine either, Yeah under Microsoft Double

602
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<v Speaker 4>Fine Yeah?

603
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<v Speaker 1>Man in theory, yeah, god, so crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So these next two topics are a little

605
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<v Speaker 2>bit tricky because one console has it and the other doesn't.

606
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<v Speaker 2>So I figure instead, Michael, why don't you start and

607
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<v Speaker 2>why don't can you tell us a little bit about

608
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<v Speaker 2>quick resume?

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<v Speaker 4>God, okay, quick zoom is dope because I am indecisive

610
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<v Speaker 4>as fuck. So I'll have twenty games on my Xbox

611
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 4>and I want to play probably five of them, and

612
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:14.119
<v Speaker 4>then I'll jump between three of them and I could

613
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 4>just keep doing that. Man. I like, I'll play some

614
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 4>races in Forza. I'm like, oh damn, but I want

615
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 4>to like get a few rounds of Apex in, so

616
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 4>I'll just swap over to Apex and it's like, all right,

617
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 4>now I'm ready for my four hours sit down session

618
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 4>with Yakuza like a dragon. So being able to swap

619
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<v Speaker 4>between those games in the matter of seconds, I think

620
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.160
<v Speaker 4>that if you're someone who likes who gets there feel

621
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<v Speaker 4>fast of a certain thing, but wants to move on

622
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.640
<v Speaker 4>to something else, it's even faster than doing it on

623
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<v Speaker 4>a PC. Like people be like, oh, you can just

624
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<v Speaker 4>old tab. It's like, dog, you are not going to

625
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 4>keep three games running in the background and your goddamn desktop.

626
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.799
<v Speaker 4>Stop telling me that you can all tabuh. Yeah, have

627
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 4>fun with that shit. But Yo, the Xbox ohsh is

628
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<v Speaker 4>so fire, Oh my god. Like I'm just playing Forza

629
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<v Speaker 4>right now. I'm about to hop in some Gears, bro,

630
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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna do that like five seconds. Well, I will say,

631
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<v Speaker 4>all right, time to be fair. To be fair, though

632
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:05.720
<v Speaker 4>quicker Zoom does have some bugs. It needs to work

633
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<v Speaker 4>out right now.

634
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<v Speaker 1>So Matt, I'm going to give you a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think not having something like quicker Zoom on

636
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<v Speaker 2>the PlayStation five is detrimental or do you think that

637
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<v Speaker 2>is a game changer in any way?

638
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<v Speaker 6>Go for backwards compatibility. I definitely think it's huge for Xbox.

639
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<v Speaker 6>But I was playing around on the PS five last

640
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<v Speaker 6>night and I was like, man, I don't want to

641
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<v Speaker 6>watch the intro logos. I don't want to start through

642
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<v Speaker 6>the main menu. It's super quick, but I want to

643
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 6>get in there quicker. I went to activities in Spider

644
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<v Speaker 6>Man and just hit Rezuome on a mission I was on,

645
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<v Speaker 6>and it loaded me immediately into the mission in like

646
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 6>five seconds. It was blazing fast. It's definitely a bummer

647
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 6>because they have this thing called the switcher on the

648
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<v Speaker 6>PS five, and that sounds like something that you could

649
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 6>use and it would resume into a game quickly, but

650
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.440
<v Speaker 6>nothing like that. And uh, while it's not a huge

651
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.480
<v Speaker 6>detriment to the console, it would have been a nice

652
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<v Speaker 6>feature to have.

653
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's nice to have. It's not like essential, I

654
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:09.960
<v Speaker 4>would say, but.

655
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, first party games load insanely fast, and in fact,

656
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 6>like sack Boy has the very like very short I'll

657
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 6>let you finish your thought, Sackboy has like loading screens

658
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.559
<v Speaker 6>that last like maybe a second, And it's disappointing to

659
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:29.799
<v Speaker 6>see those loading screens at all, just because of how

660
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 6>fast the games are that I wish they just hit

661
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:37.680
<v Speaker 6>it entirely black, yeah, or like it just showed sack

662
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 6>Boy like FLOSSI the sack, Yeah, yeah, exactly, playing with

663
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 6>his sack and then he jumped back into another level.

664
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<v Speaker 1>It's uh, it's so fast, it's wild all right.

665
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<v Speaker 2>Well, on the topic of things that one console doesn't

666
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<v Speaker 2>have and the other does, the PlayStation five has three

667
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:59.000
<v Speaker 2>D audio. Matt tell us about three D audio and go.

668
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 6>So back in January, right before the pandemic ravaged our lands.

669
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<v Speaker 1>It was quite the history lesson here.

670
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Michael and I were in Vegas and we demoed

671
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<v Speaker 6>uh Creative Creative Labs, super x Fi Technology which is

672
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 6>like three D audio to the max, which basically it

673
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 6>sounds like you're listening to speakers around a room without

674
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 6>like degrading the audio quality, and those are my favorite

675
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 6>headphones to use. They've released gaming headsets since then. Three

676
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 6>D audio on the PlayStation the tempest audio tech is

677
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 6>not as impactful as that. It definitely makes a difference,

678
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.199
<v Speaker 6>but you would only be able to tell that difference

679
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 6>if you switched between disabled and enabled really quickly. And

680
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 6>while it has the potential to be huge in like

681
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:54.480
<v Speaker 6>multiplayer shooters and stuff like that, it just seems like

682
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.880
<v Speaker 6>a nice bonus. It doesn't seem super essential. But there's

683
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 6>nothing and time, there's no not to use it. So

684
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 6>it's it's there. It's nice.

685
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not amazing, but it's it's it's it's decent, you know,

686
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 1>I feel.

687
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<v Speaker 2>You, Michael, Do you think the Xbox not having three

688
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 2>D audio is a detriment or will hurt it at

689
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<v Speaker 2>some point?

690
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Go?

691
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm on. I'm on board with Matt saying that it's

692
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 4>it's a nice to have, but it's not essential. There

693
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:21.239
<v Speaker 4>are a lot of There are a lot of audio

694
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<v Speaker 4>options on on Xbox to improve audio quality, such as

695
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 4>at most and things like that. I mean, I'm I'm

696
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 4>the type of dude who loves like, really really good audio,

697
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.920
<v Speaker 4>But I think the use case for three D audio

698
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 4>is a little bit trickier, and I don't think it's

699
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:43.119
<v Speaker 4>it's not going to I don't wanna. I don't want

700
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 4>to get ahead of myself and saying it's not going

701
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 4>to change the way we play games. But I'm willing

702
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 4>to bet money that it won't be essential for the

703
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 4>way we play games. Uh, So you know it's I

704
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 4>don't think it's that big of a deal. I mean,

705
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 4>I just I have a nice audio technica and Sendheiser headset,

706
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 4>uh stereo headset. That's that's good enough for me. And

707
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 4>that's that on that.

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00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's time, Lucy.

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00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Having played both the Xbox Series X and PlayStation five, now,

710
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>any thoughts on the three D audio in particular first,

711
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 2>and then maybe we can touch on quicker zoom.

712
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 5>So I agree with both of you in that both

713
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 5>of these features are really really nice, but they're not essential.

714
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 5>I do enjoy three D audio. I think, you know,

715
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:33.719
<v Speaker 5>when developers utilize it, it's really cool. I think, you know,

716
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 5>Miles Morales was a great use case for it. I

717
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 5>think I almost said astro Boy. Astrobot was also.

718
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:42.679
<v Speaker 4>A great use too, well, I love you.

719
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 5>Did you see tams video of that. It's very yes,

720
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 5>and I think I think it's great, but you know,

721
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 5>it just it just depends on how much it's used.

722
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.719
<v Speaker 5>It's nice to have in terms of quick resume. I

723
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.159
<v Speaker 5>am a terrible person who plays of games. I have

724
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 5>like five games going at the same time, and so

725
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.519
<v Speaker 5>being able to swap between them. It's definitely having quick

726
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:09.800
<v Speaker 5>resume on Xbox then not having it on PlayStation. You

727
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.679
<v Speaker 5>definitely do feel it, especially when you have to like

728
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 5>look at all the menus and title screens again just

729
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 5>to get back to where you were. So both of

730
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 5>them are like nice. I like three D audio, I

731
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:21.719
<v Speaker 5>like quick resume, But was it the was each one

732
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 5>the feature that pushed me to get the console?

733
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Now?

734
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Next up, we have storage in transfer speeds, Michael, do

735
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:29.519
<v Speaker 2>you want to start with this one?

736
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

737
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

738
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 4>Storage? Oh, this is tricky because Xbox Series X got

739
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 4>the most eight hundred and two gigabytes are free on

740
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:43.119
<v Speaker 4>the internal storage, and though I'm not sure how works

741
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 4>on PS five, I'm sure it's pretty simple. But it's

742
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:48.159
<v Speaker 4>very simple on Xbox. Like if you have a one

743
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.519
<v Speaker 4>X or an Xbox one and you just like plug

744
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 4>in your SSD or your hard drive so that trans

745
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 4>put the games on that, then plug it into your

746
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.320
<v Speaker 4>Xbox Series consoles and the transform over, or you just

747
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.000
<v Speaker 4>play them straight up off if they don't have Series

748
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 4>S optimizations, that's the key right there. But that's dope.

749
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Just like and like transfer cis are fast. I'm sure

750
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 4>they are on PUS five also, but just the way

751
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 4>the ecosystem works is very simple, straightforward, almost fool proof.

752
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.840
<v Speaker 4>The C gate card is cool. It's a fairly priced

753
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.719
<v Speaker 4>for an Envy M E S s D. It's still

754
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.400
<v Speaker 4>pretty expensive in the console space. But I will say

755
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 4>is that the Series S three hundred and sixty four

756
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.400
<v Speaker 4>gigabytes will fill up fast. But again, I don't think

757
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:29.519
<v Speaker 4>the Series S is for real. Ass Oh, I don't

758
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 4>want to say that. I don't think the Series S

759
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Speaker 4>is for real.

760
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Ass. I'll then on time, so it's for real ass. Yes,

761
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:43.559
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation five, go.

762
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:49.400
<v Speaker 6>The PlayStation five. The internal storage there is an extreme

763
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:54.639
<v Speaker 6>premium on it because you cannot store games on external

764
00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:00.400
<v Speaker 6>drives no matter the speed of that external drive. That's

765
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:05.480
<v Speaker 6>really huge considering like games are big these days, and

766
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:11.280
<v Speaker 6>games like Call of Duty are looking to be immensely massive,

767
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 6>and it's going to cause people a bit of a

768
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 6>headache with the PS five when it comes to expansion.

769
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.280
<v Speaker 6>You can't do that at launch. They're coming uh in

770
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 6>later with an update. Sony has to test specific and

771
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:29.840
<v Speaker 6>v M e SSDs uh to ensure they're compatible because

772
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 6>they're doing a lot more than just using them for

773
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 6>loading or loading screens, to be more specific, and and honestly, yeah,

774
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 6>like those are going to be expensive, like n v

775
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 6>M e SSDs Jen for a SSDs, you got freaking expensive, man,

776
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 6>And to get to get a terrorbyte, it's going to

777
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.880
<v Speaker 6>be a similar price to the Seagate hard for Xbox.

778
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 6>And uh yeah, it's it's it's going to be expensive

779
00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 6>no matter where you go.

780
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Michael thirty second.

781
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Rebuttal okay, I think I won, but one thing? What

782
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.320
<v Speaker 4>was fuck? I had an idea and then I forgot

783
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.440
<v Speaker 4>hopefully I remember in the wait you're calling a victory

784
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.280
<v Speaker 4>before the votes are in. Yeah, like, oh, hey, don't

785
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 4>put that shit on me. What I'm saying. I feel

786
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.079
<v Speaker 4>the w in my bones. Yeah, that's a storage is

787
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 4>easy on Xbox just swap them, move them between and

788
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:25.559
<v Speaker 4>it's all good.

789
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Matt, how about you?

790
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 6>Uh yeah, I mean, I mean the Series X has

791
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.119
<v Speaker 6>a fair amount of storage and I like that, but

792
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:39.039
<v Speaker 6>that Series S. I'm gonna corner that thing and beat

793
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.400
<v Speaker 6>it up in an alley. You got twenty second, So

794
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:45.159
<v Speaker 6>three sixty four is crazy, man, And it's such a

795
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:48.119
<v Speaker 6>disappointment they weren't able to at least get that to

796
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 6>five hundred and then like with some extra space for

797
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:56.320
<v Speaker 6>the OS and whatnot not counted in that because like time, damn,

798
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:58.360
<v Speaker 6>that's a lot of that's not a lot of space.

799
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 4>All I was gonna say, velocity architecture, the way that

800
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:07.039
<v Speaker 4>the storage and the io speeds work is on point.

801
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Engineers don't there. He's gone over his time. It might

802
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.800
<v Speaker 1>have been speaking as well, have been speaking French for

803
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:14.679
<v Speaker 1>all care.

804
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Lucy, Do you have any thoughts on storage transfer speeds

805
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 2>on both these cons? I don't know if you've had

806
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:23.039
<v Speaker 2>much time to test the because you've got it yesterday, right.

807
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So I haven't tired Xbox much, but I have

808
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 5>been helping capture gameplay for a lot of comparisons, and

809
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 5>so I have been you know, had ghost of Sishima

810
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 5>on my PS four and instead of redownloading it, I

811
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 5>moved and like war Zone, I needed to do something

812
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:40.519
<v Speaker 5>on and so put that on an external hard drive

813
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 5>and then putting it on my PS five took a

814
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 5>long time. It takes a long time to transfer games

815
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 5>from hard drives. Like Matt said, you can't put PS

816
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 5>five games onto a hard drive. You can't even store

817
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.320
<v Speaker 5>them on there, which is annoying. So like right now

818
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 5>I have my external hard drive is just my PS

819
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.320
<v Speaker 5>four game machine, which is fine and like they will

820
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:07.719
<v Speaker 5>run off, They're perfectly fine, but I do worry, like

821
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.719
<v Speaker 5>I've already I already filled the PS five, I've already

822
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 5>had to make a call. So that six hundred odds

823
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.679
<v Speaker 5>gigabytes is a premium and I am excited for them

824
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:21.960
<v Speaker 5>to figure all that stuff out.

825
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 4>Generally, what's the transfer speeds like when you're doing those things,

826
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 4>Because I tested, like to the second, what transfer speeds

827
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.519
<v Speaker 4>are like for certain size files on Xbox between different

828
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 4>types of external drives. I'm just curious.

829
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 5>I didn't test, like I didn't time, but I definitely

830
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.599
<v Speaker 5>remember war Zone being like fifteen or some minutes.

831
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.400
<v Speaker 4>It was okay, we're using an external SSD or an

832
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:48.199
<v Speaker 4>external HDD.

833
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I believe it's HDD. It's the Cgate one. It's the

834
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 5>c Gate one that they did for the Xbox One.

835
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:57.559
<v Speaker 4>The game drive. Yeah, that's that's a hard time. Okay, okay,

836
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.079
<v Speaker 4>that's that's that sounds right then?

837
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:04.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, and and similar to your speeds with the SSD,

838
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:11.159
<v Speaker 6>maybe a little slower, but yeah, it's it's a it's

839
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:15.760
<v Speaker 6>a mess. The storage situation, it is really disappointing. Just

840
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 6>being able to store PS five games on an external

841
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 6>drive would have made this so much better.

842
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean even I.

843
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Feel like this is just an issue with both consoles,

844
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and it's just the trade off, as you guys said,

845
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 2>of having envment and they can't even say it. The

846
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>fancy SSDs, as cool as they are, it is kind

847
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:41.159
<v Speaker 2>of frustrating that. I'm pretty sure last Gen all the

848
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<v Speaker 2>consoles launched with five hundred gigs, and even the Series

849
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 2>S still launches with quote five hundred gigs like years later,

850
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>which is which is a bummer because I remember even

851
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that like five hundred gigs. I remember being too small

852
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.519
<v Speaker 2>back then because you could fill that up, you know,

853
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 2>if you bought a good handful of Launch games that

854
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>would have been filled up as well back then, So

855
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I was I was really holding out that there'd be

856
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.480
<v Speaker 2>some two terabyte consoles we'd be able to get, but Nope,

857
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>not yet. Maybe that'll be the next revision we get

858
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<v Speaker 2>in a.

859
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:12.400
<v Speaker 4>Couple of years. I don't know, man, these consoles are

860
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.199
<v Speaker 4>still like five hundred bucks for the PS five, and

861
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 4>the X and Yeah and v ME SSDs are still

862
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.559
<v Speaker 4>wild expensive. So the fact that they can't even ship

863
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.679
<v Speaker 4>a five hundred dollars console with that technology in it

864
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:28.159
<v Speaker 4>is kind of still astounding a bit totally. But in

865
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.360
<v Speaker 4>the world of consoles, where things are supposed to be

866
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:34.239
<v Speaker 4>like front price, consumer friendly pricing, it does kind of

867
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:35.360
<v Speaker 4>throw you for a loop.

868
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Especially when what Cold War is supposed to be like

869
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and I installed it today my preorder today,

870
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 2>and it just took it took almost all day. I

871
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 2>almost had to stop it before this podcast because I

872
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to take my internet. Like yeah, anyway, the

873
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 2>last topic we have here, Matt, I'll have you start

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00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>is about you I go.

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00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 6>So Playeration five's UI is similar to the PS four

876
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.519
<v Speaker 6>in that it still uses the straight line of tiles

877
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 6>for its homepage, but the control center is where things

878
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:18.159
<v Speaker 6>get a little more interesting. That's where activities come in,

879
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 6>which are basically little game cards that let you load

880
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 6>into a specific level, mission, quest challenge immediately. So I

881
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 6>was able to skip world travel in Spider Man Miles

882
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 6>Morales and complete all of his combat challenges without swinging once,

883
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.199
<v Speaker 6>which is awesome because I was just like, get this

884
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 6>over with. It's a combat challenge, who cares. It's definitely

885
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.360
<v Speaker 6>different enough that the muscle memory you build up from

886
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:50.639
<v Speaker 6>the PS four is going to cause some problems, but

887
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 6>once you get used to it, it's it's super intuitive,

888
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:58.360
<v Speaker 6>pretty quick. There are some PS four PS five version

889
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.960
<v Speaker 6>stuff that it's a little confusing and then it's time,

890
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 6>but once you get used to it, it's manageable for sure.

891
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:11.159
<v Speaker 4>Michael, So, so the Xbox Series UI is the Xbox

892
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:16.119
<v Speaker 4>One UI. Nothing's changed really, but it's snappier, it's it's

893
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 4>easier to move between stuff. But I mean like they've

894
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.400
<v Speaker 4>made some strides with that UI. So while well, the

895
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:25.079
<v Speaker 4>PS five is like definitely trying some new new ship. Uh,

896
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 4>the I feel like the Xbox is, we like their

897
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 4>mentality is to give you the best version of what

898
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.559
<v Speaker 4>they already have. And then build from there. It kind

899
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:36.360
<v Speaker 4>of shows in the UI like Xbox users they probably

900
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.800
<v Speaker 4>like figured this out already, like how to use it,

901
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.280
<v Speaker 4>so when they jump into here, there's there's nothing to relearn.

902
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.679
<v Speaker 4>It's the same it's the same thing. It's just a

903
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 4>lot cleaner when you're navigating it. So maybe it's not exciting,

904
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 4>but it's efficient, is what I'll say. And that's fine

905
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 4>with me, all right.

906
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Matt got a rebuttal go, Yeah, I love the Xbox

907
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:01.639
<v Speaker 2>One s U. I.

908
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.039
<v Speaker 6>I think the latest design of it is is is fantastic,

909
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.920
<v Speaker 6>the best console UI out there. There you go, you

910
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 6>heard it, Yeah, totally. The thing that's disappointing about it, though,

911
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 6>is that and like understandable that they kept it because

912
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.519
<v Speaker 6>they are sharing an ecosystem, is that you don't get

913
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.559
<v Speaker 6>that new UI feel when you boot up your console.

914
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.800
<v Speaker 6>And uh, that's that's a slight disappointment that that you

915
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:29.719
<v Speaker 6>don't get with the PS five time.

916
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 4>Michael, Yeah, yeah, I feel you on that, Like the

917
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:34.719
<v Speaker 4>first time you boot up a console, like, oh, ship,

918
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.280
<v Speaker 4>what's this actually look like? With the PS five is

919
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 4>like we've seen it already. But when I when I

920
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 4>get my PS five and I boot it up. I'm like, ah, ship, Uh,

921
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 4>here's here's some new ship, new ship, new ship. But uh,

922
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know Xbox is lit. I don't know. I

923
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.199
<v Speaker 4>came around on it. I think it's cool, all right. Oh,

924
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:57.559
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't have the dynamic backgrounds or whack on Xbox.

925
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 4>Dynamic backgrounds are lit on PS five P four. So

926
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.000
<v Speaker 4>you got to give it to Matt for.

927
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:06.199
<v Speaker 1>This one, Lucy, how do you feel?

928
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:11.719
<v Speaker 5>I have never really enjoyed the UI on Xbox. I

929
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:15.719
<v Speaker 5>like down three sixty, I've never really blades. I loved

930
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 5>the Blades, but the the one and now a series

931
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 5>UI is like I find myself. I'm I still have

932
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 5>to second guess where everything is. Like I feel like

933
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 5>I know exactly where stuff is, but I still kind

934
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 5>of go, oh it's it just never clicked with me

935
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:43.079
<v Speaker 5>as a UI. Whereas PlayStation I think what they've done

936
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 5>this time around is like they've they've got their cross

937
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.199
<v Speaker 5>media bar with award winning cross media bar. I think

938
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 5>they actually won an award for the in the p

939
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 5>S three Days.

940
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:55.800
<v Speaker 7>I feel like they award for it.

941
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.920
<v Speaker 4>They stole it from the PSP. All right, This UI

942
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 4>shit goes all the way back to the PSP.

943
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.880
<v Speaker 5>We never had a PSB, but no, I like the

944
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.840
<v Speaker 5>way I like the way the cross media bar thinks like,

945
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:11.119
<v Speaker 5>but it's weird. The one thing I will say is

946
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:13.280
<v Speaker 5>that like I am enjoying the Xbox One way more now,

947
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.639
<v Speaker 5>Like I feel like I'm getting there with it becoming

948
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 5>second nature, like the PlayStations one is. And it is

949
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:22.079
<v Speaker 5>great that I am seeing where they're just nicking stuff

950
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:26.480
<v Speaker 5>off each other. So like, for example, Xbox used to

951
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.920
<v Speaker 5>have the snap feature and you can put Skype in

952
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 5>there or whatever, and PlayStations now nicked that and put

953
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.599
<v Speaker 5>that in so you can have party chat or you

954
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:38.639
<v Speaker 5>can have someone else's gameplay in there. There's other stuff too.

955
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:42.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh what was I looking at yesterday? I don't remember.

956
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 5>It will come back to.

957
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:46.440
<v Speaker 6>Me, but I the tiles in the in the library

958
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.840
<v Speaker 6>are pretty Xboxy, yeah, which is nice. Just the nice

959
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 6>square like logo art is nice to see.

960
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know some games got the PlayStation hits

961
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:06.199
<v Speaker 4>uh design on a digital tile art that this.

962
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 5>Game like now a major motion picture vibe of Like, y'all.

963
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:13.079
<v Speaker 4>Don't need to tell me that God of War is

964
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:14.960
<v Speaker 4>a PlayStation hit. We all know that.

965
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 6>Like the Yeah, I would never, ever, ever ever buy

966
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.159
<v Speaker 6>one of those red plastic PS three or PS four games.

967
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Does the PS five UI have any ads? Because that's

968
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.639
<v Speaker 2>one thing that's always bugged me about the Xbox recently

969
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 2>is that home screen always has like check out this

970
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.079
<v Speaker 2>show on Netflix and check out this thing. And that's

971
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:38.679
<v Speaker 2>something that's bugged me for a while because like, I

972
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.119
<v Speaker 2>don't really want to see ads on my home screen.

973
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Like if I go to the store, which it's very

974
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 2>easy to get, two chances are you're gonna spend a

975
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.159
<v Speaker 2>lot of time in the story and game pass. Fine,

976
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:49.119
<v Speaker 2>but like when I boot up my console, I don't

977
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.239
<v Speaker 2>like to look at ads for I don't know whatever

978
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:53.800
<v Speaker 2>they're giving me ads for.

979
00:50:54.360 --> 00:51:00.519
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they're they're so they have this this one game

980
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 6>card that shows up. I don't know when or how

981
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:05.440
<v Speaker 6>or when it's relevant, Like I don't I don't know

982
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 6>exactly when it shows up. But every now and then

983
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.719
<v Speaker 6>it'll be like here, here are things you missed or

984
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:12.639
<v Speaker 6>here are things you should know about, and it's like

985
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.760
<v Speaker 6>I saw, like I'm like, oh shit, ghost Rider, that's sick.

986
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:18.599
<v Speaker 6>I loaded up. Oh it's Fortnite. I'm like, oh, thanks

987
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 6>thanks a lot. PlayStation getting my hopes up. So it's

988
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 6>it's definitely there are definitely ads, but it's it's too

989
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:31.920
<v Speaker 6>early in this specific UI's lifetime to see if that

990
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:34.840
<v Speaker 6>will be used in more addy marketing.

991
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Ways.

992
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:39.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because I mean news the four does it is

993
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 5>that it would put in like PlayStation now ads, which

994
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.679
<v Speaker 5>is to be expected because it is their service, and

995
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 5>I guess otherwise you wouldn't really uncover PlayStation No, I

996
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:56.920
<v Speaker 5>don't know. Sorry, I just got sad thinking about ads.

997
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how unavoidable they are.

998
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, the last topic is not really a topic,

999
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 2>but I just wanted to give you both some time

1000
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 2>for some closing remarks.

1001
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh ship, Michael, do you want to start?

1002
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:13.639
<v Speaker 4>Do you got a right?

1003
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Closing remarks? On PS five Xbox Yakuza.

1004
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:23.639
<v Speaker 4>Listen, all right, Yakuza Like a Dragon Is Done is

1005
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 4>my my game of the year. It's on Xbox One,

1006
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:28.519
<v Speaker 4>It's on Xbox Series X, on PS four, it's on

1007
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.920
<v Speaker 4>PC ha ha PS five ain't getting it till next year.

1008
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Uh so I was gonna say something really bad, but anyway,

1009
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, yas shoul y'all should play that game. It's

1010
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:42.119
<v Speaker 4>it's man, what a special thing. Cosco bon Wow. I

1011
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:43.960
<v Speaker 4>love that man. Probably one of my favorite characters of

1012
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 4>all time. I'm I'm say that with my chest. Yeah,

1013
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:50.280
<v Speaker 4>so yahl people, But it's not just him.

1014
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:51.159
<v Speaker 1>He's got anything.

1015
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:55.679
<v Speaker 4>You don't want to. You don't want to get into

1016
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:57.719
<v Speaker 4>that debate. I would love to, but that's a whole

1017
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:01.719
<v Speaker 4>nother one. That's a whole nother th Next SOD Xbox anime.

1018
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:03.239
<v Speaker 4>I'll you know what I've been playing. I've been playing

1019
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Dragon Quest eleven. I've been playing Yakuza, I've been playing

1020
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.639
<v Speaker 4>Near I've be playing other Yakuza games. I just started

1021
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 4>the sort Ar online shooter. It's not great, but I'm

1022
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:13.480
<v Speaker 4>playing it anyway because anime girls, you know what I'm saying,

1023
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 4>and a whole bunch of other shit.

1024
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Matt, what about anything you want to add? On PlayStation five?

1025
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the I think the coolest thing about these new consoles,

1026
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:27.639
<v Speaker 6>specifically the PS five, because that's what I've played most of,

1027
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:33.599
<v Speaker 6>is that it feels like there aren't any compromises anymore

1028
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:37.280
<v Speaker 6>in terms of graphics modes, Like you're definitely compromising performance

1029
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.599
<v Speaker 6>for visuals, but even if you do performance mode, the

1030
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:45.000
<v Speaker 6>picture looks incredibly clean. And that just wasn't the case

1031
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.119
<v Speaker 6>on PS four pro it was either hey, you're gonna

1032
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:52.400
<v Speaker 6>get a game that performs pretty well that looks greeny,

1033
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:56.320
<v Speaker 6>or a game that looks good and performs alright. Like

1034
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:01.000
<v Speaker 6>it was never it was never really a satisfying choice there,

1035
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.280
<v Speaker 6>And with the PS five so far, a lot of

1036
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 6>the games I've tested have been satisfying on both modes

1037
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:09.039
<v Speaker 6>for different reasons, and that's awesome, And honestly, I think

1038
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 6>that this generation, like both consoles offer amazing things that

1039
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:16.079
<v Speaker 6>I think people will absolutely get a kick out of

1040
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 6>depending on what type of games they like to play.

1041
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 6>And more than ever, I feel both consoles are are

1042
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 6>super great choices. It's it's really good and there's never

1043
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 6>been a better time to be a gamer. So I

1044
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:31.840
<v Speaker 6>think it's.

1045
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:34.119
<v Speaker 2>It's shout out to all the gamers listening, shout out

1046
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:41.159
<v Speaker 2>to all the gamers be careful. I mean, I will say,

1047
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 2>like I was playing, I was playing Assassin's Creed Valhalla

1048
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:47.320
<v Speaker 2>on Series X, and it was really nice that there

1049
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.480
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't an option between performance or resolution.

1050
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.559
<v Speaker 4>It's just four K sixty which it.

1051
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Runs great, runs super smooth, it looks super clean and crisp,

1052
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's something that I hope we see more of

1053
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know we will, especially when it comes to

1054
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<v Speaker 2>ray tracing, because ray tracing kind of seems like the

1055
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 2>thing that's like do you want rag tracing on or

1056
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:08.719
<v Speaker 2>do you want just pretty?

1057
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1058
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:12.119
<v Speaker 4>I think the M five is a good case of

1059
00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:13.880
<v Speaker 4>how that compromise has to work.

1060
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that kind of worries me because it's the

1061
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 2>last gen game, right, and like you can't I mean,

1062
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.719
<v Speaker 2>you can still do rate tracing sixty frames four k,

1063
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I think, but if you want to do one hundred

1064
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.519
<v Speaker 2>and twenty frames, then you have to turn off rate tracing.

1065
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that works, yes.

1066
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 4>And there's like this, it's weird things with like the

1067
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:33.920
<v Speaker 4>with resolution and really because you can have rate tracing,

1068
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.880
<v Speaker 4>full rate tracing ten ADP, then you have some retracing

1069
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:41.519
<v Speaker 4>or a slightly lesser version of it and then run

1070
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.480
<v Speaker 4>a higher resolution or if you want to do four

1071
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:45.719
<v Speaker 4>K sixty then you have to turn all that shit off.

1072
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.599
<v Speaker 4>So in some ways, like I love that. I Yo,

1073
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm playing Assass's Creed on a console at sixty FPS

1074
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 4>and this shit looks clean as fuck, Like that's wild,

1075
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:58.039
<v Speaker 4>Like I like that, But once you start getting into

1076
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 4>rate tracing, I think things are gonna get really tricked.

1077
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:00.519
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1078
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:04.360
<v Speaker 4>But regardless, like that's that's a that's a cherry on top.

1079
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.599
<v Speaker 4>Like I think games are still gonna have options like

1080
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 4>they do with the one X and uh in some

1081
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 4>cases for the PS four Pro. But at the end

1082
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:15.559
<v Speaker 4>of day, I think, like, you know, unless you're like

1083
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 4>really really picky about visuals like some PC gamers are.

1084
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 4>I used to be that way. I try not to

1085
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 4>be anymore because I just I just want to play.

1086
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.280
<v Speaker 4>I remind myself like I'm here to play a game.

1087
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not here to like nitpick where resolution is going

1088
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:30.800
<v Speaker 4>down at a certain point because I don't want to

1089
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 4>play a Xbox one Bass games because nine hundred pee

1090
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:38.840
<v Speaker 4>like nasty. But there's there's a certain point in which, Okay,

1091
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 4>this looks good and I'm going to enjoy this game.

1092
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 4>So I think the new consoles like you don't gotta

1093
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 4>like the Xbox Base Xbox One struggle, bro like struggle

1094
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.400
<v Speaker 4>to like perform and struggle to make games look good,

1095
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.480
<v Speaker 4>especially later on in the console generation. Like I was

1096
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:57.119
<v Speaker 4>watching Jordan play x Apex on Xbox One and like

1097
00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:59.679
<v Speaker 4>the stuttering. I was like, bro, you gotta you gotta

1098
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.119
<v Speaker 4>upgrade A dog like can't you can't be living like this,

1099
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:05.880
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, like like echoing what Matt said is like

1100
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 4>both these consoles are strong right out gate Like for Microsoft,

1101
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:11.599
<v Speaker 4>they cut out all the fat. Remember that Xbox one

1102
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.920
<v Speaker 4>launch We'll forget about because like they're not They're not

1103
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.079
<v Speaker 4>fucking with that shit no more. Yeah, Like obviously like

1104
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:21.719
<v Speaker 4>PS five is still focused on those important things. So hey,

1105
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:24.199
<v Speaker 4>like you asked me who won the console war? The

1106
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.000
<v Speaker 4>gamers won the console war.

1107
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:26.280
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

1108
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:28.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1109
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:32.719
<v Speaker 2>I was unplugging my one X today because I don't

1110
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 2>don't think I need it anymore, And I am so

1111
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:39.159
<v Speaker 2>thankful that there is now only one HDMI port in

1112
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:41.559
<v Speaker 2>the back of these new consoles because they figure out

1113
00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:43.719
<v Speaker 2>the Xbox Ones, they were like, let's have two so

1114
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:48.199
<v Speaker 2>people can plug in their TVV, their things, they can

1115
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:49.239
<v Speaker 2>get the Xbox.

1116
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 6>Over or if they want to be an asshole and

1117
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:57.159
<v Speaker 6>plug in their PS four for some reason, I mean

1118
00:57:57.239 --> 00:57:59.719
<v Speaker 6>speaking to the last generation and all that stuff. Man,

1119
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 6>Like I remember those of the consoles coming out and

1120
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:05.039
<v Speaker 6>being like is this hit? Like wait, I thought we

1121
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.079
<v Speaker 6>were ten AVP sixty what happened to that? And like

1122
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:12.239
<v Speaker 6>within a year it was just like these consoles are underpowered. Yeah,

1123
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:14.480
<v Speaker 6>and I think it's gonna We're gonna have to wait

1124
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:16.800
<v Speaker 6>and see how things pan out. But like I'm I

1125
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:21.000
<v Speaker 6>feel really positive about these new consoles, and they came

1126
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 6>at a good time, like they came when HTMI two

1127
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:27.719
<v Speaker 6>point one is starting to come into mainstream TVs. And

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00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.119
<v Speaker 6>I think they are in a better spot than the

1129
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 6>PS four and Xbox one where because they came in

1130
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:37.320
<v Speaker 6>at a time when four K TVs were exactly a

1131
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.360
<v Speaker 6>year or two out. So like I think, I think

1132
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:44.360
<v Speaker 6>these consoles are are are damn good, Yeah, damn damn good.

1133
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. The one thing I will mention is that four K,

1134
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:51.320
<v Speaker 4>like the base PS four and Xbox one weren't made

1135
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:52.800
<v Speaker 4>with four K in mind, which is why we got

1136
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:54.840
<v Speaker 4>the PS four Pro and Xbox one X as like

1137
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 4>a patchwork in the meantime, because it wasn't until like

1138
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:02.280
<v Speaker 4>twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen when four K was like affordable, uh,

1139
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.199
<v Speaker 4>And then now it's kind of the standard, so and

1140
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:06.960
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be the standard for a very long time.

1141
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Like if y'all think about AK, stop thinking about AK,

1142
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:13.320
<v Speaker 4>because AK income here in the next ten something years.

1143
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.400
<v Speaker 4>So now that four K is kind of like basically

1144
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:18.239
<v Speaker 4>the standard. Like you can't go into a Best Buy

1145
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:20.960
<v Speaker 4>and buy a ten ADP TV. That's not happening. They're

1146
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.519
<v Speaker 4>not there anymore. It's all four K. So now that

1147
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:26.000
<v Speaker 4>we know that that is, that is a standard, like

1148
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:28.199
<v Speaker 4>now these consoles like are built with that in mind.

1149
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.920
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I don't I at least you know, don't

1150
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:33.800
<v Speaker 4>quote me on this, but I don't anticipate there being

1151
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:36.679
<v Speaker 4>like a quote unquote power problem to like make sure

1152
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.039
<v Speaker 4>that these games run fine and look the way that

1153
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:44.559
<v Speaker 4>developers want them to look. So again, gamers win, gamers

1154
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:45.360
<v Speaker 4>win well.

1155
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Before before I get the judges in here to talk about.

1156
00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:52.639
<v Speaker 5>This, judge, are they coming in now?

1157
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:55.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I've got to I've got to send them the audios.

1158
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So before I get the judges in here, Michael,

1159
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:04.679
<v Speaker 2>do you want to tell people where they can find

1160
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:05.639
<v Speaker 2>you and what you're working on?

1161
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:09.239
<v Speaker 4>Sure? Yeah, I am. You can find me and all

1162
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:14.000
<v Speaker 4>of my bullshit on Twitter at Michael P. Higham. And yeah,

1163
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 4>I obviously did a lot a lot of stuff on

1164
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:19.599
<v Speaker 4>the Xbox series X and S. Also check out my

1165
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Yakuza Like a Dragon review. Yeah, putting a lot of

1166
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 4>work those and just you know, taking care of little

1167
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:28.960
<v Speaker 4>things here and there for Cover helping cover next Gen

1168
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:31.559
<v Speaker 4>because I did big ass reviews. But obviously, like a

1169
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:33.880
<v Speaker 4>lot of things come up, so keep you updated on

1170
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:36.559
<v Speaker 4>how like quicker zoom is working, what kind of enhancement,

1171
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:39.119
<v Speaker 4>what enhancements look like, things like that here and there

1172
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 4>helping out the team because Dan the team is putting

1173
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.840
<v Speaker 4>out some firework out there. Y'all should check out everything

1174
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.199
<v Speaker 4>everyone's doing, Matt, especially in Jean, Luke and Jake y'all

1175
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.360
<v Speaker 4>cut some wild videos like also the news teams on

1176
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.559
<v Speaker 4>top of so just man, this next gend shit is.

1177
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:57.360
<v Speaker 4>It's really nice to see like the whole site and

1178
01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 4>everyone working on the site coming together to cover every

1179
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:04.800
<v Speaker 4>facet of this ship. But also like a real, real

1180
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:09.480
<v Speaker 4>shameless self plug right here. Check out Filipino American History

1181
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Month podcasts on giant bomb dot com. Between me and

1182
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.039
<v Speaker 4>Jan that ship is fire. If you all want to

1183
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:18.199
<v Speaker 4>listen to some some wild cultural shit, some family trauma

1184
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 4>and like speaking a different language, check that shit out, Matt.

1185
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.760
<v Speaker 1>How about you? You can find me at Matt Paget

1186
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter m A T P A g E T I.

1187
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 6>I tweet a lot of bullshit like Michael, I like,

1188
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:41.599
<v Speaker 6>I like the dark side of TikTok and.

1189
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 5>Tony and I consume a lot of TikTok and even

1190
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:46.519
<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure what that means.

1191
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1192
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:50.880
<v Speaker 6>So basically I just search for like jugglos and vampires,

1193
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.880
<v Speaker 6>and I try to look for people who don't really

1194
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 6>understand how to use their phone so they think TikTok

1195
01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 6>is harassing them when it's just like, hey, check out,

1196
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:00.639
<v Speaker 6>there's a video, and then they just get mad at

1197
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:02.280
<v Speaker 6>TikTok on camera.

1198
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Matt's algorithm has to be the weirdest thing, like I

1199
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:08.440
<v Speaker 2>bet they have. They have to have just one guy

1200
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:10.920
<v Speaker 2>who works on it because it's just like, yeah, no

1201
01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:12.840
<v Speaker 2>computer can figure this out.

1202
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 6>Shout out to Big Juice. I Yeah, I'm Big Juice. Baby,

1203
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:28.119
<v Speaker 6>he's back. Yeah this is back baby. I no, no, no,

1204
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 6>so sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry, this is my anime,

1205
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:33.159
<v Speaker 6>all right.

1206
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:34.239
<v Speaker 3>No.

1207
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.960
<v Speaker 6>So I'm doing a lot of like like Calmer stuff.

1208
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.639
<v Speaker 6>So Black Friday is coming up. I'll be covering a

1209
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:41.920
<v Speaker 6>bunch of that. But if you want to check the site,

1210
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:44.480
<v Speaker 6>I helped out with a bunch of PS five content.

1211
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:50.239
<v Speaker 6>The team absolutely killed it with the PS five Xbox

1212
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:52.760
<v Speaker 6>content was super awesome to read. I I ate that

1213
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.719
<v Speaker 6>stuff up. So Michael did a great job to absolute

1214
01:02:55.760 --> 01:03:00.559
<v Speaker 6>mad Man on the keyboard. And yeah, it's been a

1215
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:03.360
<v Speaker 6>lot of fun covering these consoles and I'm stoked for

1216
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:06.480
<v Speaker 6>this next generation and continuing to cover them with this

1217
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:11.280
<v Speaker 6>team because they made it easy to write my review

1218
01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:14.960
<v Speaker 6>and they freaking knocked out their own content that was awesome.

1219
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:17.960
<v Speaker 6>So check it all out. Man, game Spot going hard

1220
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:21.800
<v Speaker 6>in twenty twenty video games. They're here man, Hell yeah, dude,

1221
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:23.119
<v Speaker 6>all right, Lucy, how are you?

1222
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:28.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm on Twitter at Lucy James Games. I tweet bad

1223
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:31.440
<v Speaker 5>joke as well.

1224
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:32.079
<v Speaker 4>That's true.

1225
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:36.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, wow, And I also agree. No. I. In

1226
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:38.159
<v Speaker 5>terms of what I've been working on, I've been helping

1227
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 5>support mostly on the PlayStation side because I actually had one.

1228
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 5>A lot of the footage in comparisons will be mine.

1229
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:49.599
<v Speaker 5>So if you want to judge my Spider Man abilities

1230
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:55.119
<v Speaker 5>off you go, don't. I literally messaged Evan and I

1231
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:55.960
<v Speaker 5>was like, I died.

1232
01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:57.360
<v Speaker 1>No.

1233
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.440
<v Speaker 5>I literally messaged Evan, who is editing the comparison. I said, look,

1234
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:03.840
<v Speaker 5>the Fisk Boss fight I died cut around made me

1235
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:04.239
<v Speaker 5>look good.

1236
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I did the d m C gameplay for the comparison,

1237
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:11.480
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I'm not the person to be doing.

1238
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:15.119
<v Speaker 5>This, by judge no, and like so I've just been

1239
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:21.639
<v Speaker 5>helping support I can producing and just helping people get

1240
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:23.000
<v Speaker 5>where they need to be.

1241
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:26.639
<v Speaker 4>I have a question, what's what's what's happening with Gen

1242
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 4>Next now that that the next generation is now the

1243
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:29.760
<v Speaker 4>current generation?

1244
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:36.239
<v Speaker 5>Jen now, I don't wow, I like it, I don't know.

1245
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:38.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean Gen Next is also the show that I've

1246
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:43.320
<v Speaker 5>been working on with Tam and Jordan and obviously Evan.

1247
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:47.119
<v Speaker 5>We can do without him talking about next generation of consoles.

1248
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:50.840
<v Speaker 5>This week's episode, we have snippets from Term's Big Phil

1249
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:55.440
<v Speaker 5>interview where Big Phil actually says that he chooses the

1250
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:57.960
<v Speaker 5>nickname for himself so we can continue to call him

1251
01:04:57.960 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 5>Big Phil.

1252
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Andy said he's been playing elden Ring or he's played

1253
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:05.440
<v Speaker 2>a Yeah, which I was recording that interview with Timour

1254
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:07.719
<v Speaker 2>and when Timore asked it, I like rolled in my

1255
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 2>eyes because like he can't say anything. And then he

1256
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:12.800
<v Speaker 2>said that he saw the expression on Tan's space as

1257
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:13.639
<v Speaker 2>he started.

1258
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:18.199
<v Speaker 5>If you if you go to Joe Screbble's Twitter, Joe

1259
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:24.159
<v Speaker 5>Screbbles did a little cut of that moment tribute moment.

1260
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:26.599
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, gen Next is the big fill interview in

1261
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.719
<v Speaker 5>TAM's early impressions with Demon Souls and then going forward,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean the consoles. It's start of a new generation.

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<v Speaker 5>So Gen next is going to stick around. We've had Honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>like it's been. I was very wary when we started

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<v Speaker 5>doing it, when we were talking about doing a show

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<v Speaker 5>about new consoles. I was very afraid of wading into

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<v Speaker 5>console war stuff. But honestly, like such a nice little community.

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<v Speaker 5>He likes our stupid jokes and love it when Will

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<v Speaker 5>comes on and they ask him all these questions and

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<v Speaker 5>like love the jokes and it's just it's just really nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look a lot of the comments and it's like

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<v Speaker 4>continuous like things about like Tam, you and Jordan. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh shit, like y'all, like people are coming

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<v Speaker 4>back to it. So that has been really dope to

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<v Speaker 4>see stick.

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<v Speaker 2>Around because after this we're going to figure out who

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<v Speaker 2>the master debater is.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll me.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are back.

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<v Speaker 2>With episode sixty seven of Games Spot After Dark. I

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<v Speaker 2>am joined by our wonderful cast of judges. Joining me

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<v Speaker 2>right now is Ian Preshel.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Jacob McCourt.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and Folgy Bear what a do baby?

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<v Speaker 2>So I've selected you three to help me determine who

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<v Speaker 2>the winner is of this console debate. We want to

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<v Speaker 2>put the console wars to an end. We just want

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<v Speaker 2>to stop them right here. And that's what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>For a couple of things. I chose you through because

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<v Speaker 2>I know you three have audio setups and we can

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<v Speaker 2>do a podcast and it would all be steamingless and

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<v Speaker 2>bar because I'm a big fan of all your work.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's like considerably less important than the first one for.

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<v Speaker 3>Something at all.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't be skipping on the We can't be skimping

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<v Speaker 2>on the audio quality. You know people are going to

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<v Speaker 2>catch that, even though I recorded with Zoom for like

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<v Speaker 2>the first three months of this pandemic and it sounds bad.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy that you just said that. Like if I

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<v Speaker 1>had a snowball mic, I'd never got on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty nuts. Yeah, that's how it is, though, lifetng

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<v Speaker 1>gamer Price.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, you guys have listened to this week's episode. You

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<v Speaker 2>got an early cut of it, and they talked about

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<v Speaker 2>I think I said nine in the podcast, nine different topics.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't count. I didn't double check.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's actually nine, but we've got

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of topics here. I figure we can just

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<v Speaker 2>hit each one pretty quickly. You guys can kind of

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<v Speaker 2>decide who you think did better, and then at the

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<v Speaker 2>end we can decide. Now, the reason there's three of

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<v Speaker 2>you is because there has to be a winner, and

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<v Speaker 2>if there were four, you know, you know how that works,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be too too.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't have that.

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<v Speaker 7>We gotta go hold with a deciding factor here. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>what if we said it was a tie at the end.

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<v Speaker 7>That totally screws your logic, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, say that no one wins, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of notes here that say that both of

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<v Speaker 1>them lost and that Lucy won.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if Lucy wins, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We can come to that.

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<v Speaker 7>Does Lucy represent the game players? Is that who she represented?

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<v Speaker 2>In that?

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<v Speaker 1>The people? She is the popular vote?

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<v Speaker 3>She's a strong independent that everybody needs to rule the

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<v Speaker 3>game or country.

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<v Speaker 2>So exactly, Okay, First up here is console design, folky,

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<v Speaker 2>who do you think had the better argument here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so I gotta give it to Michael Hyam, mainly

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<v Speaker 3>because when you admit that you're opposing your opponent's console

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01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:58.479
<v Speaker 3>looks better than your own and you appreciate it. You

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<v Speaker 3>kind of lose that argument automatically. Also, let's be real,

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<v Speaker 3>who in their right mind is going to look at

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<v Speaker 3>the PS five console think this is modern and I

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<v Speaker 3>love it because this is definitely something less futuristic and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a big fan of it, and it takes

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<v Speaker 3>away too much space the fair points.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Matt kind of did himself in in that one

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<v Speaker 2>when he's like, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Xbox more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like he like didn't even get to his point

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ardea, and you're you're touching on something that is I

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<v Speaker 1>think a key issue with this entire debate is that

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<v Speaker 1>every single time a topic came up, the other person

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, I gotta give it to this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is a console war. You can't both

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<v Speaker 1>be Switzerland. Someone has to win. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>core of my issue. There wasn't a there wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>blood bath. There was too kind.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, I mean I was expecting Paget to be

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<v Speaker 7>to be nice. I mean his Canadian and we tend

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<v Speaker 7>to always say sorry and then also give it to

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<v Speaker 7>the other person. But there was just so much night

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<v Speaker 7>and so much all around that. Yeah, I had a

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<v Speaker 7>really hard time coming new decision on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine, though I got it. Here's the thing. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you brought me on because I hate Michael Him. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's why he brought me on. And I'm going

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01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to be like the what's the guy who's the British

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<v Speaker 1>guy from the singing show that hates everybody, Simon Cowe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Simon. I am the New Jersey Simon Cowell. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always going to say that Michael Him did a

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<v Speaker 1>bad job. But literally Matt couldn't even throw me a

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<v Speaker 1>bone and literally impossible to choose him. He literally said,

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<v Speaker 1>this looks unplaystation. This looks the exact same as the

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<v Speaker 1>PS three, just with a white polo shirt over it. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>like he didn't give himself any sort of help at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that him went with quote a pop collar,

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<v Speaker 1>that that metaphor, that metaphor is amazing. And and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting the PS three for reference here, like just

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<v Speaker 1>go go to your closet and get a white polisher.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it over there. That's the PS five. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>literally what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like one of those Binders from high School

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<v Speaker 3>is wrapping around real quick, and we're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I gotta give it to High as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I don't want to in the in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the interest of fairness and in terms of keeping our democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to give it. I have to give it

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael Hyam with this one.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Michael, I was on the fence, but Michael called

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<v Speaker 7>it a sleek brick and I was into it, so like,

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<v Speaker 7>I also gave it to Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>We like those bricks around here, Let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, not that my vote really counts here, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would also say Michael had this one mostly because

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<v Speaker 2>Matt just kind of gave it to him. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think I could have gone along with the PS five

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<v Speaker 2>being better, but Matt just kind of gave up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, has Helm is cool, but I can't wear.

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<v Speaker 4>It, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm also noticing if you listen to this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>you can totally tell that Michael Hyam was in politics

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<v Speaker 1>at one point because he has some real AOC demeanor.

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01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Whe's like, listen, I gotta give you to this guy.

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01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:50.800
<v Speaker 1>But if you think about it, in the greater scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting here like the way that he's doing this

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01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is like he's been trained. He's been prepared for the

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<v Speaker 1>Xbox Nation to really give the get the people what

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<v Speaker 1>they want, the real stats and the Not.

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<v Speaker 7>Only that, but he hit his time mark almost every

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<v Speaker 7>single time. It was like it's a minute and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I got my point in suspiciously.

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<v Speaker 1>So did he have a timer up? Was he trained

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01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.399
<v Speaker 1>by mister Spencer? He did not have a timer up?

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<v Speaker 1>The timer was I was running that so timer was

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<v Speaker 1>in his heart? Yeah, he did well there.

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<v Speaker 2>Next thing, we have his controller design or just controller

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<v Speaker 2>in general in.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about this? So I have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of quotes here from mister Hyam quote, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I can grip it pause is what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you when that's your opening statement, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>hard to take the rest of what you say at

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<v Speaker 1>face value. And he also says later on that same debate,

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01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:49.680
<v Speaker 1>huge feet. So unfortunately regards Matt could have literally been silent,

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<v Speaker 1>his mic could have been destroyed halfway through that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would still have given it to Matt. But Matt

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<v Speaker 1>also gave some good arguments and he also said that

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<v Speaker 1>he the controller redefines the way he thinks about games,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I think what every controller manufacturer wants to hear, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They all want to be like, oh, well, the features

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<v Speaker 1>in this make me want to play games in a

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<v Speaker 1>different way, and I think that that's so I'm not

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01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:14.680
<v Speaker 1>even getting the next gen consoles, but like that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, WHOA, I wonder what's the big deal

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<v Speaker 1>about this controller that makes him think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a key feature for the future. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna buy the PS five, but I might

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<v Speaker 1>just go to Target and get the controller, you know,

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01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:28.960
<v Speaker 1>just to see it. So I grip it with your hand,

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<v Speaker 1>yes to I feel like I can grip it. Quote

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<v Speaker 1>Michael him, I not a shuret.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the next round of business cards. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I think in his own words he'd probably say relax,

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01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:40.239
<v Speaker 7>right he did.

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<v Speaker 1>He did say relax after that as well.

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01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if there's a relax counter, he probably said it

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<v Speaker 2>many times. Jacob McCourt, how do you feel about this

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01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:50.359
<v Speaker 2>argument PS five?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it was the resounding winner in this round

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01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:56.840
<v Speaker 7>of debate strictly because of how Matt explained how game

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01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:00.239
<v Speaker 7>changing the haptic triggers were. Both are refinements on the

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01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:02.640
<v Speaker 7>old controllers. But Matt really sold me when he talked

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<v Speaker 7>about those haptic triggers.

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01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:06.800
<v Speaker 1>So PS five wins it in this round. Do you

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01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:09.520
<v Speaker 1>both have notes? Uh? Yeah we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. I had to work today, so you know, I

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01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.239
<v Speaker 3>was listening to this while I was getting some stuff

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01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:18.880
<v Speaker 3>done on the job. Y'all taking notes making it look

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01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:21.119
<v Speaker 3>bad man, what a good person.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't come at Michael Hyam's neck without

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01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:28.239
<v Speaker 1>notes like you, I'm going against the AOC games right here.

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01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I got to make sure that I come correct with

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<v Speaker 1>my documentation if I'm going to come at him, I gotta.

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01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:33.279
<v Speaker 1>If I come for the king, I better not miss

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01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that I feel that fogy what about you?

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01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean I gotta give a dual sense as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's for me personally, like the Xbox controller is so safe,

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01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:49.680
<v Speaker 3>where when it comes down to like arguing that, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an Xbox controller, it works, it connects, it has

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01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:57.239
<v Speaker 3>the features that you want a controller to do. But

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that Matt thoroughly explained like yeah, like you

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01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:02.239
<v Speaker 3>do this, the tension is different and stuff like that,

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01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:03.800
<v Speaker 3>and all the other videos I've been coming out over

1473
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:05.960
<v Speaker 3>the last couple of days and weeks, it's like, yeah,

1474
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:08.399
<v Speaker 3>you can't argue the Dual Sense is not better than

1475
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:10.159
<v Speaker 3>the Xbox Controller at this point in time.

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01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one thing that I cut from the initial edit

1477
01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:15.840
<v Speaker 2>that I sent to you guys, I think I cut it.

1478
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:16.199
<v Speaker 3>At least.

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01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Lucy had mentioned that do we include the Xbox Elite Controller,

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01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:23.159
<v Speaker 2>and ultimately we decided not to because it doesn't come

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01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.600
<v Speaker 2>with the box, and we thought that might be kind

1482
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:28.000
<v Speaker 2>of unfair. But I think even if we included that,

1483
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I think the Dual Sense would probably still have a

1484
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:33.560
<v Speaker 2>pretty good shot of winning, just because of what Matt

1485
01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:36.239
<v Speaker 2>had said about how it kind of makes you rethink

1486
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.039
<v Speaker 2>how you play games with the controller, which is something

1487
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:41.760
<v Speaker 2>that I feel like even the Elite Controller doesn't necessarily do,

1488
01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:43.960
<v Speaker 2>or at least it doesn't do anymore, since.

1489
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:45.920
<v Speaker 3>They've already had a couple revisions of those, and like

1490
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:48.359
<v Speaker 3>with the Elite Controller, you have to set it to

1491
01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:52.159
<v Speaker 3>be different, whereas the Dual Sense just does it. Like

1492
01:15:52.960 --> 01:15:55.760
<v Speaker 3>that's really cool. And the fact that it's only what

1493
01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:59.000
<v Speaker 3>seventy dollars for the controller or something like that versus

1494
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.520
<v Speaker 3>two hundred or for the Elite two.

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01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:06.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and I know we were told to disregard, but

1496
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.079
<v Speaker 7>there's also a speaker of some kind on there that's

1497
01:16:09.079 --> 01:16:13.000
<v Speaker 7>supposed to be better than previous. Matt just really sold

1498
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:14.319
<v Speaker 7>me on it, So I know I was supposed to

1499
01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:16.439
<v Speaker 7>disregard that, but I regarded it.

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01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.279
<v Speaker 1>And also it's interesting when you get later into the debate,

1501
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:23.079
<v Speaker 1>is that like Xbox and PlayStation seem to be doing

1502
01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the complete polar opposite of each other. Whereas the PlayStation

1503
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:30.279
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh, the physical item is like completely different, right,

1504
01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:32.359
<v Speaker 1>and then for Xbox, like, no, it's just the same.

1505
01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:34.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a giant box. Literally, it's a giant It's what it's.

1506
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.520
<v Speaker 1>It is what it is, right, samely the controller, whereas

1507
01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:39.800
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation is like, yeah, the games are what they are,

1508
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:41.199
<v Speaker 1>They're going to be the same series and this is

1509
01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:43.479
<v Speaker 1>going to come up later and other arguments or whatever.

1510
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:46.520
<v Speaker 1>But with Xbox, like, no, we have a Netflix style subscription,

1511
01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:49.399
<v Speaker 1>we have quick resume. Like it feels like the software

1512
01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:52.079
<v Speaker 1>side is where Xbox is pushing more restplaystation. It's the

1513
01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:55.520
<v Speaker 1>physical hardware where you're kind of getting a huge difference.

1514
01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:57.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think we call that from.

1515
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Matt, right, we did all right, Next up backwards compatibility.

1516
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Ian, you want to start with this one. I mean,

1517
01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Matt bro help, please, just help me. I want to

1518
01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:11.720
<v Speaker 1>vote for you. Man, You're making it real hard, but

1519
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:17.039
<v Speaker 1>literally literally he goes Days Gone looks real good on

1520
01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:19.439
<v Speaker 1>the PlayStation five, And then I was I was gonna

1521
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:22.640
<v Speaker 1>punch my monitor. I was like, Matt, are you serious?

1522
01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:25.479
<v Speaker 2>Could have said, could have said God of War, could.

1523
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Have said, could have said he could have said like

1524
01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Flappy Bird. I would have been like, yeah, man, sure,

1525
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:34.000
<v Speaker 1>man with Days Gone, I don't even know if a

1526
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 1>single person played that game, Like why are you bringing

1527
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:40.720
<v Speaker 1>this up? But then of course Mike killing it with

1528
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the the arguments obviously undefeated. You know, good messaging, right,

1529
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:48.680
<v Speaker 1>The messaging behind backwards impatibility is almost as important as

1530
01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:51.119
<v Speaker 1>the feature. Like when you get an Xbox, you know

1531
01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you're getting the Xbox plus one hundred other things, right,

1532
01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Whereas PlayStation you're like, if you ask me, can I

1533
01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:01.399
<v Speaker 1>play PlayStation four games on I five? I couldn't tell

1534
01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you with confidence if I can, or how you even

1535
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:07.279
<v Speaker 1>would do it? Right? Both Xboxes like, oh yeah, whatever,

1536
01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:09.600
<v Speaker 1>just throw the disc from two thousand and five into

1537
01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:12.800
<v Speaker 1>this twenty twenty box and somehow you get a game

1538
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:15.520
<v Speaker 1>like That's that should be illegal, Like that's that's insane.

1539
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.119
<v Speaker 1>That's like that is really appealing to like the midwestern

1540
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin mom who's like, yeah, just get them the Xbox

1541
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:23.479
<v Speaker 1>and put the disc in. It doesn't matter like that.

1542
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:25.920
<v Speaker 1>That I think is the best part. And again, Michael

1543
01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Hyam really definitely killing it with these the message on

1544
01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:31.880
<v Speaker 1>these on these debates, Man, Jacob, how about you.

1545
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:36.319
<v Speaker 7>I think I wrote, in addition to Michael saying undefeated,

1546
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:39.159
<v Speaker 7>I have game Pass delicious in my notes. And I

1547
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:40.720
<v Speaker 7>don't know if he said that or if I just

1548
01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:42.720
<v Speaker 7>thought that.

1549
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:45.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a little weird, but I think it a buffet.

1550
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's what it was. I wasn't just hungry when

1551
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:49.640
<v Speaker 7>I wrote these notes.

1552
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:52.079
<v Speaker 1>It was Michael. He really sold it.

1553
01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:54.399
<v Speaker 7>He talked about Skate three, even Matt was talking about, yeah,

1554
01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:56.159
<v Speaker 7>you could play splinter Cell games. I don't know if

1555
01:18:56.159 --> 01:18:58.000
<v Speaker 7>he was trying to get some favor with you, Jake

1556
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.960
<v Speaker 7>by talking about splinter Cell, but I think it was

1557
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:04.439
<v Speaker 7>far and away a victory for Michael in that respect.

1558
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:08.439
<v Speaker 7>And I and you said it, but Matt really was

1559
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:10.359
<v Speaker 7>shooting himself on the foot by saying, you know, this

1560
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:13.319
<v Speaker 7>thing wasn't messaged well, it wasn't perfect you know, the

1561
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 7>PS four library is intensely awesome, but Michael wins it

1562
01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:17.720
<v Speaker 7>for me in this one.

1563
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:18.880
<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Fogy?

1564
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:22.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they all kind of hit the nail on

1565
01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:24.439
<v Speaker 3>the head on that one. So there's not too much

1566
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I can add. But the clear difference when it comes

1567
01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:29.920
<v Speaker 3>to the backwards compatibility is like you can tell that

1568
01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Microsoft in Xbox is a software first company, not a

1569
01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:36.239
<v Speaker 3>hardware first company, so they've spent the time to make

1570
01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:40.199
<v Speaker 3>that ecosystem way better. And even with like, for example,

1571
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:44.159
<v Speaker 3>Skate three, that game on an Xbox one X looks

1572
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:47.960
<v Speaker 3>amazing for a game from two thousand and eleven or

1573
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.319
<v Speaker 3>twelve or something like that, and all the other games

1574
01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:55.600
<v Speaker 3>I played, oh what was it? Arb and Dangerous recently

1575
01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:57.880
<v Speaker 3>because that was for free. It looks so good for

1576
01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:00.319
<v Speaker 3>a game that's that old, And I'm like, this is fun,

1577
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:04.479
<v Speaker 3>Like this is perfect. I can't comfantly say, like any

1578
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:07.720
<v Speaker 3>like backwards compatible game one PlayStation five, that's PS four,

1579
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:10.079
<v Speaker 3>that's cool, But what if you want to play a

1580
01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:12.600
<v Speaker 3>PS two game or PS five game. And I think

1581
01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:14.479
<v Speaker 3>that's what Michael hit on the head is like you

1582
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:16.199
<v Speaker 3>can go back and play all these different games for

1583
01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:19.560
<v Speaker 3>different generations and Matt Oily really argue like you can

1584
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:23.039
<v Speaker 3>play these PS four games like Asushima in Days Gone.

1585
01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is also an issue when it

1586
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:28.000
<v Speaker 1>comes to Microsoft being a US first company and Sony

1587
01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:32.199
<v Speaker 1>being a japan first company, Like, like living over there,

1588
01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:35.159
<v Speaker 1>the majority of PlayStation or the majority of PlayStation owners

1589
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:37.359
<v Speaker 1>still have their PS two and it is completely it

1590
01:20:37.439 --> 01:20:39.920
<v Speaker 1>still runs like and you can go to secondhand shops

1591
01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in Japan you can get a perfectly perfectly running PlayStation

1592
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:45.439
<v Speaker 1>two PlayStation three for like less than one hundred dollars.

1593
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:47.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's I feel like it's a very specific America

1594
01:20:47.960 --> 01:20:50.880
<v Speaker 1>versus Japan POV problem when it comes to the messaging,

1595
01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:52.880
<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure that if you went to a boardroom

1596
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>at Sony, they were like, why do we need backwards impatible?

1597
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:58.159
<v Speaker 1>Don't you own the PlayStation two? And every person in

1598
01:20:58.159 --> 01:20:59.920
<v Speaker 1>America is like, bro, I've moved six times. What do

1599
01:20:59.920 --> 01:21:02.399
<v Speaker 1>you It's at my grandma's house in on the other

1600
01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:05.520
<v Speaker 1>side of the country. And they're like, oh, well, that's unfortunate,

1601
01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Like I hope you buy the PS five. I guess

1602
01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:09.439
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's as much as I want to

1603
01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:11.479
<v Speaker 1>give the wind to Matt it's it's Sony's problem, not his,

1604
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1605
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So I guess Michael takes that one. The

1606
01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:19.520
<v Speaker 2>next thing we have, though, are exclusives. Fogy do you

1607
01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:20.439
<v Speaker 2>want to start on this one?

1608
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.439
<v Speaker 3>And I felt so bad when this topic came up

1609
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:26.880
<v Speaker 3>for Michael, because there's just no way you can compete,

1610
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:31.239
<v Speaker 3>especially when Infinite got canceled before even like a release

1611
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:33.119
<v Speaker 3>date came out or whatever. I might be wrong on

1612
01:21:33.119 --> 01:21:36.439
<v Speaker 3>that one, but Emma got delayed, my man, not canceled, delayed.

1613
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:40.560
<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, you can't really argue your big bread

1614
01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:44.199
<v Speaker 3>winner getting delayed. I'm gonna watch your console. So by default,

1615
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Matt's definitely winning this one.

1616
01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:49.039
<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Jacob uh?

1617
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:53.079
<v Speaker 7>Michael laughed and conceded. So I think right there I was.

1618
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:55.680
<v Speaker 7>I was already on the on the PlayStation five side.

1619
01:21:56.239 --> 01:21:58.680
<v Speaker 7>I think Matt said, Yo, we got games Spider Man,

1620
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:01.279
<v Speaker 7>Astro's player room bugs, now we got him, and then

1621
01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:03.720
<v Speaker 7>he went on to insult Yakuza like a dragon, which

1622
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:06.760
<v Speaker 7>I guess is like the big exclusive on on the

1623
01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:09.399
<v Speaker 7>Xbox side, by saying it's for webs. I don't know

1624
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:11.800
<v Speaker 7>how to spell webs, but it's in my notes, so

1625
01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:16.319
<v Speaker 7>I would say that Michael wanted on this one despite

1626
01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:20.399
<v Speaker 7>Yakuza like a dragon being Gotty Gotti or Gody Gotty.

1627
01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:23.479
<v Speaker 1>Game of the Year potential. You mean Matt Gody.

1628
01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:25.479
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, yeah, I give it to Matt on the

1629
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:26.000
<v Speaker 7>PS five.

1630
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:28.479
<v Speaker 1>What do you think you in? So here's the thing.

1631
01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:32.199
<v Speaker 1>This is This is where, this is where the villain

1632
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:34.399
<v Speaker 1>turns to the hero and they become friends. They shake hands,

1633
01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:38.399
<v Speaker 1>and then they fight the even greater evil. Because as

1634
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:39.920
<v Speaker 1>much as I want to give it to Matt, he

1635
01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:43.560
<v Speaker 1>said in an open forum, most of the world ain't

1636
01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>webs and he is defending the PlayStation five. Sony just

1637
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.479
<v Speaker 1>bought crunchy roll. Bro, you're fighting against your own team.

1638
01:22:52.279 --> 01:22:55.479
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, do you know what are you talking about?

1639
01:22:56.279 --> 01:22:58.319
<v Speaker 1>And then went on to just again. I wrote her

1640
01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:00.720
<v Speaker 1>here in my notes it says here, most of the

1641
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:05.159
<v Speaker 1>world ain't weaves. Canceled, bro canceled, canceled, just canceled, seven times,

1642
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. You have an anime podcast. Who knows?

1643
01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:09.279
<v Speaker 4>I can't.

1644
01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not allowed to say here, but uh, Jake said,

1645
01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:16.760
<v Speaker 1>no animation. I'd like to hear a show. But here's

1646
01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the one thing though, I gave this a tie in

1647
01:23:18.680 --> 01:23:22.199
<v Speaker 1>my head because Mike, as we know, both in the

1648
01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>console war and in politics, the the end result doesn't matter.

1649
01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>It's all about the messaging, right, Because here's the thing,

1650
01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:33.439
<v Speaker 1>the word is exclusives. He could have been like Xbox exclusives,

1651
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and then he could have just ended it that no

1652
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>real argument, and then everyone said, whoa, You're right exclusive.

1653
01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. So I'm kind of sad that Mike

1654
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:43.479
<v Speaker 1>didn't do that. So I'm gonna it's a tie for

1655
01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>me because Matt committed a war crime by saying that

1656
01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:49.239
<v Speaker 1>people aren't weeds, and then Mike just didn't really do much,

1657
01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So that's a tie.

1658
01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Also, let's not forget one of the big PS four

1659
01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:55.000
<v Speaker 3>games was a for some of five and he just

1660
01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:56.720
<v Speaker 3>caught off all those people. You know.

1661
01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they really do be your own people sometimes, and

1662
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:02.920
<v Speaker 1>this time it was a Canadian person being his own

1663
01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>people against Japan.

1664
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, you may have given a tie, but unfortunately we

1665
01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:11.199
<v Speaker 2>have two on Matt's side here, so I think Matt wins.

1666
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, that checks out. I'm on the right side

1667
01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of history. I will say that, Matt, if I ever

1668
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>meet you in real life, you know, you know what's

1669
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen.

1670
01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:20.600
<v Speaker 2>One thing that Michael didn't touch on, which I thought

1671
01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:23.680
<v Speaker 2>he would were the fact that Microsoft just bought a

1672
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:25.760
<v Speaker 2>shit ton of studios and will soon have a bunch

1673
01:24:25.800 --> 01:24:26.560
<v Speaker 2>of exclusives.

1674
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>But we did do a topic on.

1675
01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:31.880
<v Speaker 2>The future, which I think he did much better at

1676
01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Wait real quick.

1677
01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>If we can go back. This is the one that

1678
01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I said that Lucy won, because I actually have notes

1679
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>underneath here saying Lucy actually gave the perfect slam dunk

1680
01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:45.279
<v Speaker 1>argument for Mike because it was the argument, the logistic

1681
01:24:45.319 --> 01:24:50.319
<v Speaker 1>argument between the difference between exclusives versus perceived exclusives, where

1682
01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:53.479
<v Speaker 1>she brings up Assassin's Creed, where if you ask that

1683
01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>the layman person, where you'll play Call of Duty, where

1684
01:24:57.399 --> 01:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you'll play Assassin's Creed, it's gonna be on the XBO,

1685
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:03.640
<v Speaker 1>not the PlayStation. So even though it is technically purchasable

1686
01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>on all platforms, since cross play is not always going

1687
01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>to be a thing on the Sony side, in reality,

1688
01:25:09.479 --> 01:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you have created a perceived exclusive with these particular marketed games.

1689
01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>So this is the one actually where I said, tye, wait, no,

1690
01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Lucy wins. So that's that's that's I'm I'm voting for

1691
01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the Ralph Nader which is Lucy.

1692
01:25:24.359 --> 01:25:27.079
<v Speaker 2>So so if we put Lucy into the mix here,

1693
01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:29.159
<v Speaker 2>fogy Jacob, what do you guys think?

1694
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Matt still has this?

1695
01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna sick with Matt. I got to all right,

1696
01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:38.399
<v Speaker 3>I just it pains.

1697
01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:41.000
<v Speaker 7>Me, but I have to Yeah, same, I'm sticking. I'm

1698
01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:43.800
<v Speaker 7>sticking with Matt on this one. The Green Party loses again,

1699
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:46.800
<v Speaker 7>I get it. Yeah, fine, part of the course, so

1700
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:47.600
<v Speaker 7>that one goes to Matt.

1701
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Next is future Ian who argued a better future for gamers, specifically.

1702
01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:59.880
<v Speaker 1>For gamers, not for anyone else, exclusively for just so.

1703
01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:03.239
<v Speaker 1>So I wrote here on my notes for both parties, please,

1704
01:26:03.359 --> 01:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>for the love of God, stop helping each other. You

1705
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>are making yourself lose. And I wrote that on Mike's side.

1706
01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's number one, and kind of I went with

1707
01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>with mister Hyam here. I went with my new you know,

1708
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the Dante to my Virgil here because he kind of

1709
01:26:19.159 --> 01:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>hit the nail on the head because he said that

1710
01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:25.239
<v Speaker 1>when you look to PlayStation, you get reliability. You know

1711
01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>what you're getting, right, You're gonna get the Spider Man, right,

1712
01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get possibly Bloodborn or Bloodborn KRT whatever that

1713
01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>studio is doing. I have no idea you're gonna get

1714
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>these like big Sony games. Right, But once that well

1715
01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:41.319
<v Speaker 1>is dry, what else are you playing there? Right? There's

1716
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:43.239
<v Speaker 1>a whole swath of games that are going to be

1717
01:26:43.319 --> 01:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>played on both consoles, right, And on top of that,

1718
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Xbox is an unknown quantity. They just bought a whole

1719
01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:50.199
<v Speaker 1>bunch of studios and there's tons of stuff that isn't

1720
01:26:50.239 --> 01:26:53.319
<v Speaker 1>really known yet for the Xbox side. So if we're

1721
01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about the future, a hypothetical future where unknowns are

1722
01:26:57.800 --> 01:27:01.239
<v Speaker 1>are good, right, I think that Xbox is where my

1723
01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>vote's gonna go, which is going to be on high

1724
01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:04.079
<v Speaker 1>im side. I could see that.

1725
01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:06.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought he did a much better job fighting

1726
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>for the future than he did for exclusives. But I

1727
01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:11.039
<v Speaker 2>guess to be fair, those are kind of intertwined a

1728
01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>little bit, how about you, Jacob. I know that Matt

1729
01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:18.960
<v Speaker 2>spoke about how the PS four generation for Sony was bright.

1730
01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:21.640
<v Speaker 2>It was all about wild swings that paid off, right,

1731
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:25.199
<v Speaker 2>It was about Spider Man from Insomniac. It was about

1732
01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:28.319
<v Speaker 2>I almost said Days Gone, but I won't say Days Gone.

1733
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Its h I can say Days Gone was a game.

1734
01:27:31.640 --> 01:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>It was it was fine.

1735
01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:34.159
<v Speaker 7>People give it a lot of crap it was fine,

1736
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:36.680
<v Speaker 7>uh and a lot of other you know, big swings

1737
01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:41.640
<v Speaker 7>that paid off, he said, more familiar but fun. Xbox

1738
01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:45.000
<v Speaker 7>just has so much potential in the future around all

1739
01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:48.680
<v Speaker 7>the studio acquisitions they made. I think that it was

1740
01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:51.560
<v Speaker 7>sold similarly, but I think that there is just so

1741
01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:54.600
<v Speaker 7>much out there studio wise that Xbox has to pull

1742
01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:57.319
<v Speaker 7>from in the next generation that I gave it to

1743
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:00.680
<v Speaker 7>Michael in this one. So I think we're two and

1744
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:01.319
<v Speaker 7>O for Michael.

1745
01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:06.840
<v Speaker 3>How about you, Fogy oh Man. I think Michael definitely

1746
01:28:07.039 --> 01:28:11.239
<v Speaker 3>argued a better case for the future with Xboxes, talking

1747
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:15.159
<v Speaker 3>about the acquisitions and what can't happen. But I will

1748
01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:18.159
<v Speaker 3>say Matt did argue that with Sony, you do know

1749
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:20.600
<v Speaker 3>what you're gonna get and you can rely on that

1750
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:24.960
<v Speaker 3>consistency and whatnot. I'm gonna go with the tie just

1751
01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:27.319
<v Speaker 3>because I think that both of them did a decent

1752
01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:33.600
<v Speaker 3>job arguing. But personally what personally in my case, I

1753
01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:34.920
<v Speaker 3>want to give it to Michael, but I have to

1754
01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:36.279
<v Speaker 3>give a tie stickular rules.

1755
01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that.

1756
01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>So I think that being said, Michael still wins though,

1757
01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>right because we've got two for Michael and one tie.

1758
01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:48.199
<v Speaker 2>So the future belongs to Michael.

1759
01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>That's his that's his campaign slogan. The future below it's

1760
01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>not good.

1761
01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:57.960
<v Speaker 3>You hated leaves before, Wait till you have a future

1762
01:28:58.000 --> 01:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>with Michael in charge.

1763
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>The psycho Hi himself relax.

1764
01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:05.159
<v Speaker 2>The next two topics are a little tricky. It is

1765
01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>the three D audio in quick Zoome. Since one console

1766
01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>has quick Zome and the other does not, one as

1767
01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:11.439
<v Speaker 2>three D audio and the other does not. I figure

1768
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:13.279
<v Speaker 2>we can kind of look at this in terms of

1769
01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:18.159
<v Speaker 2>who argued their side better, like like based on their argument,

1770
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:23.159
<v Speaker 2>which which entices you more to one of these two consoles.

1771
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:25.319
<v Speaker 1>H Folky, I just saw you.

1772
01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I want to say, with this one, they both were

1773
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:34.800
<v Speaker 3>like they were both agreeing too much on these two

1774
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:38.960
<v Speaker 3>particular subjects, and I feel like they all kind of

1775
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:43.439
<v Speaker 3>defaulted to it's cool, but it's not needed, And they

1776
01:29:43.439 --> 01:29:47.199
<v Speaker 3>didn't really argue, like for one very hard. They didn't cape,

1777
01:29:47.239 --> 01:29:49.279
<v Speaker 3>they didn't like put go out there for their for

1778
01:29:49.319 --> 01:29:53.920
<v Speaker 3>their squad. So I don't think anybody wins this topic

1779
01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:58.640
<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, they were just not decisive enough.

1780
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>So like a tie set, instead of both teams doing well,

1781
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:02.520
<v Speaker 2>they both just fail.

1782
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:05.560
<v Speaker 3>They both get in l exactly. This is the feature

1783
01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:07.560
<v Speaker 3>on where both people can get in l for not

1784
01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:09.079
<v Speaker 3>caping hard enough for their side.

1785
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>How about you, Ian? So here's here's the thing. I

1786
01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>think that this is gonna come down to no matter

1787
01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:18.039
<v Speaker 1>which side argued better. I think this comes down to

1788
01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the person who's on the other end of this question, right,

1789
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Because when I hear three D audio, that means nothing

1790
01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>to me. I have I have air what is not AirPods?

1791
01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I have the the original Apple headphones. Like, I don't

1792
01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:34.199
<v Speaker 1>think that most people understand the the difference of high

1793
01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:37.319
<v Speaker 1>fidelity audio, right, And this is like the layman's person, right,

1794
01:30:37.720 --> 01:30:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Like me as someone who edits audio, I'm still like,

1795
01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what a decibel is, right, So

1796
01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of my whole stick.

1797
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1798
01:30:44.920 --> 01:30:49.079
<v Speaker 1>So when Mike said, you know, I'm playing a game

1799
01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit, I'm playing some racing games. I

1800
01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>hit the quick resume, I go to this game for

1801
01:30:52.600 --> 01:30:54.439
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and that's when my brain is ready

1802
01:30:54.479 --> 01:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to play some ukuza like a dragon right to my

1803
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>ADHD sensibilities, Right, I was like, wait, I don't need

1804
01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:04.079
<v Speaker 1>to wait forty five minutes. I don't even need to

1805
01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>take out my phone. I just click that next game

1806
01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:08.079
<v Speaker 1>button and I'm ready to go. That to me is

1807
01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:11.399
<v Speaker 1>way more appealing, and I think also appeals to the

1808
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:15.039
<v Speaker 1>average video game player, right because even if we're talking

1809
01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>about like separating it from like the joke of me

1810
01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>not being able to decide, right, You'll be playing a game,

1811
01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:22.039
<v Speaker 1>You'll turn off your Xbox whatever, and then you're like, Okay,

1812
01:31:22.039 --> 01:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I actually want to play a new game this time. Well,

1813
01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:26.279
<v Speaker 1>guess what, quick zoom still works there, right, that it

1814
01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>is a function that works way more seamlessly in the

1815
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>average playtime. Then I don't know, if you have headphones

1816
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:36.079
<v Speaker 1>connected or whatever, you hear the sound behind you, which

1817
01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>is like a two thousand and nine feature for like

1818
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:41.119
<v Speaker 1>surround sound audio, which like three people have, you know

1819
01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:44.720
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, and all of them work at GameStop.

1820
01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:49.079
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's kind of my two cents. I think

1821
01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that Mike wins it. But then also he is appealing

1822
01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:55.399
<v Speaker 1>to my demographic so I understand why where some people

1823
01:31:55.399 --> 01:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>would want to go with Matt on that one. How

1824
01:31:57.840 --> 01:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>about you, Jacob?

1825
01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:01.800
<v Speaker 7>So I won't like belabor the point, but I think

1826
01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:04.039
<v Speaker 7>that I agree a lot with Fogie on this in

1827
01:32:04.079 --> 01:32:08.439
<v Speaker 7>that you know, both sides were kind of about their

1828
01:32:08.600 --> 01:32:12.399
<v Speaker 7>about their their touted features. I mean, on the quick

1829
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:14.479
<v Speaker 7>zoom side, it was like, yeah, this is kind of

1830
01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.680
<v Speaker 7>cool to be able to swap between games. And on

1831
01:32:16.720 --> 01:32:20.279
<v Speaker 7>the three D audio side, Matt was talking about, you know,

1832
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:22.439
<v Speaker 7>before the pandemic, how I saw three D audio and

1833
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.359
<v Speaker 7>on another device that wasn't a Sony device, and how

1834
01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:28.399
<v Speaker 7>that was cool. But both sides seem to sell that

1835
01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:31.640
<v Speaker 7>like these features were not essential, they were nice to have,

1836
01:32:32.279 --> 01:32:36.319
<v Speaker 7>and like, I just think that both sides, like Fogie said,

1837
01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:39.119
<v Speaker 7>didn't really sell me on why either feature was cool.

1838
01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:41.520
<v Speaker 7>So I think I'm going to give it a tie

1839
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.000
<v Speaker 7>as well. So I don't know what you're gonna do here, Jake.

1840
01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:45.239
<v Speaker 7>I think you're thinking, like, what.

1841
01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Do I do?

1842
01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:50.319
<v Speaker 1>What do I do? That's exactly what I'm thinking. Listen,

1843
01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>y'all said, tie, which is a nothing vote in a

1844
01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>swing state, which is where we are. The Gamer Nation

1845
01:32:55.680 --> 01:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>is a swing state. All right, I'm the one who voted.

1846
01:32:57.960 --> 01:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>It's going to high m.

1847
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>How about how about we come back to this. Okay,

1848
01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:05.319
<v Speaker 2>we'll circle back, We'll see how the others pan out.

1849
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:07.279
<v Speaker 2>It will count up, we'll count up. That will tally

1850
01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:09.760
<v Speaker 2>it up. And if we are stuck with a tiebreaker

1851
01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:12.119
<v Speaker 2>and we need to make a decision. We'll come back

1852
01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:14.960
<v Speaker 2>to it and revisit it. I like the criteria. Yes,

1853
01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I have information that might swing the vote over to

1854
01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Matt's side. Uh, Michael Iam did say quote sack boy

1855
01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:24.319
<v Speaker 2>be playing with his sack unquote, so that I think

1856
01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:28.119
<v Speaker 2>just qualifies him from the race just in general. So

1857
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>just for the future when we come back to this,

1858
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:33.199
<v Speaker 2>keep that in mind. This is a direct quote. So

1859
01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:35.560
<v Speaker 2>just so y'all know, I'm.

1860
01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Sorry you have to edit this part out.

1861
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:41.239
<v Speaker 1>It's even invited me on the majority of what I'm

1862
01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:47.279
<v Speaker 1>saying is gonna be edited out. I'm gonna be honest, man,

1863
01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:48.479
<v Speaker 1>who's that you? And guy who was a lot of

1864
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:51.279
<v Speaker 1>beep the entire time is crazy?

1865
01:33:52.359 --> 01:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Next one here is storage and transfer speeds foggy? Do

1866
01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>you want to start with this one?

1867
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Man? So I'll say this. I'm gonna give this to

1868
01:34:01.800 --> 01:34:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Michael because when talking about transferring of games, well, what

1869
01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:08.199
<v Speaker 3>really helped him out is when Lucy talked about transferring

1870
01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:10.600
<v Speaker 3>games from her PS four PS five, and Hal was

1871
01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:13.039
<v Speaker 3>taking quite a bit of time for that to go through,

1872
01:34:13.680 --> 01:34:15.439
<v Speaker 3>and then Michael talked about like, yeah, I just kind

1873
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:16.840
<v Speaker 3>of pluged the hard drive in and they were there.

1874
01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:20.359
<v Speaker 3>They were available. Like the fact that I can still

1875
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:22.760
<v Speaker 3>play games off of my hard drift the heads like

1876
01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:25.359
<v Speaker 3>three terribytes full of games and then down at all

1877
01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:28.600
<v Speaker 3>the new Xbox Series X Enhanced or whatever they're called

1878
01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:31.399
<v Speaker 3>games to the new console is amazing. That saves me

1879
01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:33.960
<v Speaker 3>probably what three or four hours right there and not

1880
01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:37.439
<v Speaker 3>have to sit there. So Mike, with the assistance of Lucy,

1881
01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:40.000
<v Speaker 3>definitely gets this one. Sorry, Matt, I love you, So

1882
01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:41.560
<v Speaker 3>he lost this one.

1883
01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this one is an interesting one because if you

1884
01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:47.399
<v Speaker 2>look at this on paper, one is clearly better than

1885
01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:49.720
<v Speaker 2>the other, and it's pretty hard to argue that. I

1886
01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:53.680
<v Speaker 2>would say, like having transferred a lot on the Xbox,

1887
01:34:53.680 --> 01:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>haven't done much with the PlayStation five because I don't

1888
01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>have it yet, but it is so seamless, it's so easy,

1889
01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:00.479
<v Speaker 2>and it sounds like there's some hoops you have to

1890
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.560
<v Speaker 2>jump through the PS five. But with that in mind, Jacob,

1891
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:04.479
<v Speaker 2>how do you feel about this?

1892
01:35:05.119 --> 01:35:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Well?

1893
01:35:05.560 --> 01:35:09.079
<v Speaker 7>I want to cheers Michael Hyam on this one because

1894
01:35:09.640 --> 01:35:11.079
<v Speaker 7>he absolutely crushed it.

1895
01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I had a prop. I brought a prop.

1896
01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:16.000
<v Speaker 7>I think he said, I forget who said for real?

1897
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Ass I have.

1898
01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:18.960
<v Speaker 7>All I have written in my notes is in caps

1899
01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:21.479
<v Speaker 7>for real ass and I don't know what the context is,

1900
01:35:22.159 --> 01:35:24.880
<v Speaker 7>but Michael kind of sold that. You know, the storage

1901
01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:28.039
<v Speaker 7>options are great, the transfer speeds are great, the ecosystem

1902
01:35:28.119 --> 01:35:31.399
<v Speaker 7>is good. Whereas on the PS five side, I'm sure

1903
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:36.319
<v Speaker 7>they'll get there as far as MBME options and external storage.

1904
01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:39.039
<v Speaker 7>But at the start, like you said, Jake, it's it's

1905
01:35:39.119 --> 01:35:41.720
<v Speaker 7>clearly like an Xbox game. Michael could have sat there

1906
01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:44.479
<v Speaker 7>and said Xbox good and probably won the side of

1907
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:44.840
<v Speaker 7>the debate.

1908
01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel in no, so, I kind of

1909
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:49.399
<v Speaker 1>like what you were saying, Jake. Well, you were saying, Jake,

1910
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a difference between being good on paper and being

1911
01:35:52.159 --> 01:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>good usability wise, right, And I think that's kind of

1912
01:35:54.840 --> 01:35:57.479
<v Speaker 1>the separation that we're seeing between the PS five and Xbox,

1913
01:35:57.479 --> 01:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>which was argued by Michael, where you can say on

1914
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:02.720
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, PS five writes this much, or writes that much,

1915
01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:05.119
<v Speaker 1>or or or transfers data this way. But if I

1916
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>have to jump through a whole rung of hoops and

1917
01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I have to make sure that games are transferred over

1918
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to the main console but then hide on my hard

1919
01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>drive in the interim that you know takes away I

1920
01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>think from like we talked about before, the the my

1921
01:36:18.439 --> 01:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>ADHD sensibilities like if I have to wait another twenty

1922
01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>minutes to make sure that the game is transferred over

1923
01:36:22.880 --> 01:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>or what have you, Right, that takes away from what

1924
01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to be doing. Right, So I think that

1925
01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Xbox is taking away those barriers and

1926
01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:31.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh yeah, if you have the games, you know,

1927
01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:33.119
<v Speaker 1>plug it in, don't worry about it. I think that's

1928
01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:36.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of the strong suit to this argument, which is

1929
01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:38.479
<v Speaker 1>why I got to give it. Unfortunately, because I want

1930
01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to make I want him to lose every time. But Matt,

1931
01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>You're like, you're literally like throwing it up and he's mckenbae.

1932
01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Buttombo dunking you into the floor. Please? Is there not

1933
01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:48.760
<v Speaker 1>speech and debate in Canada?

1934
01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:48.920
<v Speaker 5>Bro?

1935
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Help please? So I got to give it, said Michael Hyam.

1936
01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, Yet, I think if we learn anything from this,

1937
01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:58.680
<v Speaker 2>it's that these two are not not made for debates.

1938
01:36:58.720 --> 01:37:01.359
<v Speaker 2>They're too nice to each other. Gotta go for the

1939
01:37:01.399 --> 01:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>throat more.

1940
01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

1941
01:37:03.720 --> 01:37:06.760
<v Speaker 2>With that being said, ian Ui, how do you how'd

1942
01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:08.039
<v Speaker 2>you feel about those arguments?

1943
01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing, I have nothing to say I

1944
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to say because I mean, here's the for

1945
01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>me personally, like this, this debate like always kind of

1946
01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>falls flat because how often am I sitting at my

1947
01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:26.319
<v Speaker 1>home screen just staring at my PlayStation or staring at

1948
01:37:26.319 --> 01:37:29.359
<v Speaker 1>my Xbox hofs like, Wow, look at the flowing green

1949
01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>texture that I have, You know what I mean? So

1950
01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:34.800
<v Speaker 1>for even though I again I always I feel like

1951
01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:37.119
<v Speaker 1>a default to Michael Hyan because we have the same

1952
01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of mental POV even though he's my sworn enemy

1953
01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>like Saske to Naruto. Right it to me, it's like

1954
01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>one of these like moot points where I'm like, the

1955
01:37:44.720 --> 01:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>PS five could could literally be the Mona Lisa of

1956
01:37:47.720 --> 01:37:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Ui and it would not affect you or I. It

1957
01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:53.159
<v Speaker 1>would It would be a nothing, It would be nothing

1958
01:37:53.199 --> 01:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>for me. If it gets to the game quickly, it's

1959
01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>cool and that's all I really care about. So I

1960
01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:00.359
<v Speaker 1>gotta give it. I'll say it's a time. If everyone

1961
01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>else is saying ties, then I'll I have to give

1962
01:38:02.359 --> 01:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>it to Michael Him just because of the sac why

1963
01:38:04.039 --> 01:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>common Earlier Wait, I thought that's why you wouldn't want

1964
01:38:06.399 --> 01:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to give it to Michael Him. No, all I'm saying

1965
01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:10.479
<v Speaker 1>he's canceled, but I want to still have him win.

1966
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, he also just thene me thirty dollars, So okay.

1967
01:38:14.439 --> 01:38:17.399
<v Speaker 7>Great, So are you saying so you've been like weirdly

1968
01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:19.960
<v Speaker 7>not okay with Michael Throat and then you just said

1969
01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:21.720
<v Speaker 7>you accept that a bribe from him, Like, I don't

1970
01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:22.840
<v Speaker 7>know what side to be on here.

1971
01:38:23.119 --> 01:38:25.399
<v Speaker 3>In some countries bribes are not bribes.

1972
01:38:26.079 --> 01:38:27.359
<v Speaker 1>It's true. It's a cultural thing.

1973
01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, sorry, it's jeez.

1974
01:38:30.119 --> 01:38:30.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1975
01:38:31.640 --> 01:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, with that being said, Jacob McCourt, how do you feel.

1976
01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:40.439
<v Speaker 7>I also kind of gave this one a tie. What

1977
01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:43.479
<v Speaker 7>I heard from uh on the Xbox side from Michael

1978
01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:46.159
<v Speaker 7>was that, you know, Xbox has made tons of strides

1979
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:50.039
<v Speaker 7>from a UI perspective, but the updates were made like

1980
01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:51.920
<v Speaker 7>a month before the console came out, so you didn't

1981
01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:54.840
<v Speaker 7>get that new UI feel when you got into the

1982
01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:57.159
<v Speaker 7>console for the first time. And Matt kind of said, hey,

1983
01:38:57.520 --> 01:39:01.439
<v Speaker 7>you know back background, dynamic backgrounds lit, how about that

1984
01:39:01.520 --> 01:39:05.439
<v Speaker 7>cross media bar work. It's a little confusing, but manageable.

1985
01:39:06.680 --> 01:39:10.000
<v Speaker 7>But on both sides, it just seemed to me like

1986
01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:15.800
<v Speaker 7>UI was a is like a preference thing, and in

1987
01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:21.000
<v Speaker 7>both cases the UI was great, and so they were

1988
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:23.920
<v Speaker 7>very nice to each other, and so it seemed like

1989
01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:26.319
<v Speaker 7>a case of they're both good but different.

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01:39:26.479 --> 01:39:27.399
<v Speaker 1>So I gave it a tie.

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01:39:28.319 --> 01:39:30.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, so that's kind of two ties,

1992
01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:35.760
<v Speaker 2>except you may be slightly leaning more towards Michael for this, right, Anne.

1993
01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:37.840
<v Speaker 7>Are we doing a good job of judging. We're giving

1994
01:39:37.880 --> 01:39:38.520
<v Speaker 7>a lot of ties.

1995
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:42.039
<v Speaker 3>We just got in the tie section of the night. Yeah,

1996
01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:45.159
<v Speaker 3>we got all right, Fogie, what do you think I'm

1997
01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:47.319
<v Speaker 3>going to be an Asian a chaos and give us

1998
01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:51.880
<v Speaker 3>one of Michael? Just so Mac and lois also also

1999
01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:56.840
<v Speaker 3>because when Michael said the Xbox UI is generally the same,

2000
01:39:56.880 --> 01:39:59.560
<v Speaker 3>it's like, oh, I'm familiar with that one. PlayStation UI

2001
01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:01.439
<v Speaker 3>has always and still is bad.

2002
01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:06.479
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, personal actually loads very poorly on the

2003
01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>old like I don't trust. Here's the thing with the

2004
01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:10.760
<v Speaker 1>way that the PlayStation store ran and the way that

2005
01:40:10.760 --> 01:40:13.119
<v Speaker 1>the PlayStation four took three hundred years to load when

2006
01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you went down to the games like community feature, I've

2007
01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>been burned before. My trust has not been earned. I'm sorry,

2008
01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:21.359
<v Speaker 1>mister PlayStation. I have to give it to mister box.

2009
01:40:21.880 --> 01:40:24.960
<v Speaker 7>You want to trailer, pull up YouTube, don't go into

2010
01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:25.760
<v Speaker 7>PlayStation store.

2011
01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:28.439
<v Speaker 3>The fact that I downloaded Twitch and it took me

2012
01:40:28.520 --> 01:40:30.600
<v Speaker 3>three minutes to find where that app went when I

2013
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:34.039
<v Speaker 3>first got my PlayStation. Is a problem? Just throw it up.

2014
01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, we've gone through all of the main topics here

2015
01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:43.560
<v Speaker 2>right now, looks like Michael has five and Matt has two.

2016
01:40:43.680 --> 01:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Short However, however, we're not done yet. All right, there's

2017
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:50.840
<v Speaker 2>a couple more things that we have to judge here,

2018
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:55.600
<v Speaker 2>the first one being who do you think had a

2019
01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:58.760
<v Speaker 2>better overall performance? Who do you think carried themselves better?

2020
01:40:58.760 --> 01:41:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Who do you think I guess followed the rules better,

2021
01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:06.800
<v Speaker 2>was more engaging? I guess generally, don't think of the console,

2022
01:41:07.279 --> 01:41:09.359
<v Speaker 2>don't think of which console you might be leaning to,

2023
01:41:10.199 --> 01:41:12.520
<v Speaker 2>just in terms of their performance. Fogy, do you want

2024
01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:13.520
<v Speaker 2>to kick us off with this?

2025
01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:15.800
<v Speaker 3>All right, We're gonna go back to being an agent

2026
01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:17.439
<v Speaker 3>of chaos and Lucy wins this one.

2027
01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Lucy all right on the right side of his point

2028
01:41:20.439 --> 01:41:22.960
<v Speaker 2>for Lucy, how about you, Jacob?

2029
01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:26.279
<v Speaker 7>This is gonna sound like a really wholesome comment that

2030
01:41:26.319 --> 01:41:28.399
<v Speaker 7>I'm about to say. But like can all my can

2031
01:41:28.439 --> 01:41:29.279
<v Speaker 7>all my people win?

2032
01:41:29.479 --> 01:41:29.560
<v Speaker 6>Like?

2033
01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:31.880
<v Speaker 7>Can everybody win? Do I have to choose someone? I

2034
01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:33.000
<v Speaker 7>have to choose someone, don't I?

2035
01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I have to choose.

2036
01:41:34.119 --> 01:41:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, if you don't pick anyone and it's

2037
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a time, Michael's gonna win.

2038
01:41:37.319 --> 01:41:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna give it to Michael.

2039
01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:42.800
<v Speaker 7>Uh he just it really impressed me how he hit

2040
01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:46.159
<v Speaker 7>his time marks almost every single time. The man like

2041
01:41:46.199 --> 01:41:48.439
<v Speaker 7>there was a second left and his point was totally done.

2042
01:41:48.840 --> 01:41:51.840
<v Speaker 7>So on that point alone, I'm gonna give it to

2043
01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:56.600
<v Speaker 7>Michael just polished, poised chef's kiss.

2044
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Ian, What do you think I don't want to say.

2045
01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I've said Michael Hyam's name too many times, man, I

2046
01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>feel it. It's like the Bob a Duke, Like if

2047
01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I say Michael Hyams too many times going to like

2048
01:42:06.479 --> 01:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>appear in my close and be like dead ass or something.

2049
01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:12.439
<v Speaker 1>So I don't want to give it to Michael Hyams.

2050
01:42:12.439 --> 01:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to go. I have to go with Lucy.

2051
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Guess here's the thing. Whenever an argument came up, she

2052
01:42:18.760 --> 01:42:20.760
<v Speaker 1>was always the last word of like, well, actually, let's

2053
01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>think about it in this weird alternative way as opposed

2054
01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:26.399
<v Speaker 1>to the the X or y sort of thinking pattern,

2055
01:42:26.439 --> 01:42:29.159
<v Speaker 1>and like, I still was amazed that that she was like, oh,

2056
01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, it's not about exclusives. It's about what

2057
01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:35.119
<v Speaker 1>the average consumer thinks, the difference between a perceived exclusive

2058
01:42:35.119 --> 01:42:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and an actual exclusive. That like was like I had

2059
01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to pause the audit. It was like a Galaxy brain take.

2060
01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, she did it. She

2061
01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:44.439
<v Speaker 1>achieved the fifth dimension. The console war is over. Like

2062
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that was truly a handshake gamer moment for me between

2063
01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the two. The two is the Geneva Convention of games.

2064
01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, exactly exactly. Part of me kind of thinks

2065
01:42:56.960 --> 01:42:59.119
<v Speaker 1>we should just stack the numbers. So Lucy wins this,

2066
01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:00.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's.

2067
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:01.640
<v Speaker 3>That's just me.

2068
01:43:01.720 --> 01:43:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not proposing anything. I'm not proposing process.

2069
01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:08.760
<v Speaker 7>She was like the very cool ta that would walk

2070
01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:10.680
<v Speaker 7>over to you while you're doing your homework and like

2071
01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:12.399
<v Speaker 7>help you out and maybe give you an answer and

2072
01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:14.600
<v Speaker 7>be like, hey, you're maybe doing that wrong.

2073
01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Like that was Lucy through the whole process.

2074
01:43:16.640 --> 01:43:19.199
<v Speaker 3>She was decisive, unlike those two most of the time.

2075
01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, it looks like looks like our winner is emerging

2076
01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:27.159
<v Speaker 2>out of left field. Okay, well, then now that we

2077
01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:31.079
<v Speaker 2>have that, someone gives you five hundred dollars. You've just

2078
01:43:31.119 --> 01:43:34.399
<v Speaker 2>listened to this podcast. You can only pick one console

2079
01:43:34.560 --> 01:43:36.880
<v Speaker 2>to buy. What are you going to pick? If you

2080
01:43:36.920 --> 01:43:40.039
<v Speaker 2>pick Xbox, that point goes to Michael. If you pick PlayStation,

2081
01:43:40.520 --> 01:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>that point goes to Matt. Don't worry so much about

2082
01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:49.000
<v Speaker 2>their performance this time. This is about like, what what

2083
01:43:49.039 --> 01:43:51.039
<v Speaker 2>box are you leaning towards?

2084
01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Ian? What do you think? What's the man I live

2085
01:43:53.520 --> 01:43:56.079
<v Speaker 1>in like a two bedroom. I don't think that physically

2086
01:43:56.079 --> 01:43:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I could buy a PlayStation five. I know that you

2087
01:43:58.720 --> 01:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>can't drive that thing in like the Lincoln Tunnel. You

2088
01:44:01.359 --> 01:44:02.800
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, It's pretty large.

2089
01:44:02.800 --> 01:44:03.000
<v Speaker 4>You know.

2090
01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:06.359
<v Speaker 1>But in all seriousness, though, if I was just listening

2091
01:44:06.359 --> 01:44:08.119
<v Speaker 1>to these arguments and I had to go back and

2092
01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>forth between what I prefer, you know, I said earlier

2093
01:44:10.560 --> 01:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>about the quick zoom stuff. I talked earlier about the

2094
01:44:12.800 --> 01:44:15.720
<v Speaker 1>ease of use, right, Like, if I'm buying a console,

2095
01:44:16.159 --> 01:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm buying it purely because I want a no friction experience. Right,

2096
01:44:21.760 --> 01:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you have a PC. If you're like, well, listen, I

2097
01:44:24.039 --> 01:44:26.840
<v Speaker 1>know that today is Tuesday and then tomorrow's Wednesday. A

2098
01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>driver will fail in twenty four hours, and it's my

2099
01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>job to find it.

2100
01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:31.039
<v Speaker 4>Right.

2101
01:44:31.359 --> 01:44:34.399
<v Speaker 1>But if I go to my PlayStation five and I'm like, okay,

2102
01:44:34.399 --> 01:44:37.119
<v Speaker 1>well I want to play Bloodborne, Okay, well you gotta

2103
01:44:37.159 --> 01:44:38.720
<v Speaker 1>do this, and you gotta do this, and I go

2104
01:44:38.800 --> 01:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>here and then download it from this really slow UI thing, right,

2105
01:44:42.279 --> 01:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that to me is just putting roadblocks to what I

2106
01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:48.039
<v Speaker 1>want to do. And when we're all working, we're all

2107
01:44:48.039 --> 01:44:50.760
<v Speaker 1>doing our things, we all want that frictionless experience. And

2108
01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:54.399
<v Speaker 1>every single time Michael Hyms said it in a very

2109
01:44:54.640 --> 01:44:58.159
<v Speaker 1>relaxed chill, like you know, your homie was trying to

2110
01:44:58.159 --> 01:45:00.640
<v Speaker 1>sell you on a console that knows you you better

2111
01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>than you know yourself. Right, he sold me on a

2112
01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>frictionless Xbox experience. And I'm spending I'm actually taking half

2113
01:45:08.359 --> 01:45:10.159
<v Speaker 1>my money. I'm giving it to Michael Hym for the suggestion,

2114
01:45:10.199 --> 01:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm going to use the two for you

2115
01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>give me, and then I'm going to buy a used

2116
01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>one a month from now. All right, So that's another

2117
01:45:19.640 --> 01:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>point from Michael.

2118
01:45:20.359 --> 01:45:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Then, Fogy, how about you are you saying we can

2119
01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:26.079
<v Speaker 3>just kind of like disregard their arguments and stuff like

2120
01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:27.239
<v Speaker 3>that too, You.

2121
01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Can't, yeah, like like because if this podcast, if this podcast,

2122
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:34.159
<v Speaker 2>hope you decide, then use that podcast. But if you

2123
01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:37.640
<v Speaker 2>already have an idea of what, like if this didn't

2124
01:45:37.640 --> 01:45:41.000
<v Speaker 2>affect your buying decision at all, then actually, if this

2125
01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't affect your buying decision all, maybe we should give

2126
01:45:42.840 --> 01:45:44.520
<v Speaker 2>the point to Lucy.

2127
01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:50.960
<v Speaker 3>No. But like for me personally, because I would if

2128
01:45:50.960 --> 01:45:52.479
<v Speaker 3>I had the fund her book, I'd probably go buy

2129
01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:56.920
<v Speaker 3>a PS five only because with the way the Xbox

2130
01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:00.199
<v Speaker 3>ecosystem set up, I don't feel rushed or pressure to

2131
01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:02.840
<v Speaker 3>have to buy one right away because most of the

2132
01:46:02.880 --> 01:46:05.560
<v Speaker 3>games will play there. And then if I do buy

2133
01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:08.119
<v Speaker 3>it on my on my one X, I can get

2134
01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:13.760
<v Speaker 3>it what's it called smart delivery, smart delivery if it'll

2135
01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:16.560
<v Speaker 3>probably have that for the new one, and then with

2136
01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:19.079
<v Speaker 3>game pass, I can play it on my Xbox, my

2137
01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:23.399
<v Speaker 3>PC and then eventually my phone whenever Microsoft and IOLs

2138
01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:27.079
<v Speaker 3>makeup and you know, come friends again. And like, I

2139
01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:30.760
<v Speaker 3>don't have to like feel forced in the ecosystem. So

2140
01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:32.720
<v Speaker 3>the PS five would be my choice of power Bucks.

2141
01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:34.600
<v Speaker 1>But let me ask you this though, if you want

2142
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>to go and hang out with someone, right, who are

2143
01:46:36.359 --> 01:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you hanging out with the person who's texting you every day? Like, yo, bro,

2144
01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>we're hanging out, we get beers, we get beers.

2145
01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:40.800
<v Speaker 4>What's up?

2146
01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:42.199
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get beers or we're gonna hang out with

2147
01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>your friend? Like, oh, Yo, dude, whenever you're free. Man,

2148
01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:47.479
<v Speaker 1>We're saying. Xbox is like, Yo, I'm here, I'm hanging out,

2149
01:46:47.760 --> 01:46:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Smart delivery whenever you want, man.

2150
01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:52.239
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing. Xbox is the homane where you can be,

2151
01:46:52.279 --> 01:46:54.840
<v Speaker 3>you can talk, you can miss them for a year,

2152
01:46:55.560 --> 01:46:57.600
<v Speaker 3>things come up, and they'll always be there for you.

2153
01:46:58.119 --> 01:47:01.399
<v Speaker 3>That's why I got my ability over and done with PSI,

2154
01:47:01.840 --> 01:47:05.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, Jacob.

2155
01:47:07.039 --> 01:47:10.920
<v Speaker 7>So beyond what Dan said about beyond what ian Ha

2156
01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:13.359
<v Speaker 7>said about it being like a frictionless experience, I think

2157
01:47:13.399 --> 01:47:15.560
<v Speaker 7>the one thing that was really sold by Michael on

2158
01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:18.359
<v Speaker 7>the Xbox side was the fact that the future is

2159
01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:21.920
<v Speaker 7>very bright for Xbox. You know, beyond the hardware, when

2160
01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:25.159
<v Speaker 7>you look at Xbox Game Pass and the studios they've acquired,

2161
01:47:25.239 --> 01:47:28.079
<v Speaker 7>and the franchises that you know, uh, they're going to

2162
01:47:28.119 --> 01:47:30.319
<v Speaker 7>be sequels in, and the new stuff that's being worked on.

2163
01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:35.039
<v Speaker 7>I think that that alone. I mean I was already

2164
01:47:35.079 --> 01:47:37.560
<v Speaker 7>going to go for an Xbox. I already have an

2165
01:47:37.680 --> 01:47:41.239
<v Speaker 7>Xbox in my possession, but Michael really sold me on

2166
01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:45.039
<v Speaker 7>the future of Xbox and how getting one not only

2167
01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:47.039
<v Speaker 7>will be something that will be very easy to set

2168
01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:49.840
<v Speaker 7>up get going, but there will be games to play

2169
01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:53.680
<v Speaker 7>for the years to come. So for me, it was

2170
01:47:54.159 --> 01:47:56.199
<v Speaker 7>it was Michael that really sold me on Xbox, so

2171
01:47:56.199 --> 01:47:57.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna give him the point.

2172
01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:01.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, what we have is eight points from Michael,

2173
01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:10.199
<v Speaker 2>three points for Matt, and Lucy nice. Lucy almost tied

2174
01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:12.520
<v Speaker 2>with Matt. Almost close.

2175
01:48:12.800 --> 01:48:14.479
<v Speaker 1>Good arguments, man, See how good arguments?

2176
01:48:15.399 --> 01:48:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Now before we end, are there any last minute remarks

2177
01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:21.079
<v Speaker 2>that you want to make, Things you want to call

2178
01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:23.119
<v Speaker 2>out that you think you think maybe you're worth like

2179
01:48:23.119 --> 01:48:25.119
<v Speaker 2>an extra point. Think of this as like when you

2180
01:48:25.159 --> 01:48:27.319
<v Speaker 2>finish Mario Kart and you're winning, and then all of

2181
01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, your buddy gets like eight stars because he

2182
01:48:29.920 --> 01:48:34.000
<v Speaker 2>did stupid shit and then they So yeah, if there's

2183
01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>anything you want to add that you think they deserve

2184
01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:38.439
<v Speaker 2>points for, let me know. Now's your chance to speak.

2185
01:48:38.720 --> 01:48:41.439
<v Speaker 2>I think Fogy had something I don't.

2186
01:48:41.479 --> 01:48:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll just pick it back off of you guys. Just

2187
01:48:43.079 --> 01:48:44.000
<v Speaker 3>you'll do your thing.

2188
01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:46.359
<v Speaker 7>I want to know what the dark side of TikTok is.

2189
01:48:46.680 --> 01:48:49.600
<v Speaker 7>If Matt Padgack can explain to me what his TikTok

2190
01:48:49.640 --> 01:48:51.720
<v Speaker 7>algorithm is all about, then like maybe he can get

2191
01:48:51.720 --> 01:48:52.319
<v Speaker 7>an extra point.

2192
01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:55.159
<v Speaker 1>I just need to know darkness TikTok is at least

2193
01:48:55.199 --> 01:48:58.199
<v Speaker 1>one point in the popular vot Can.

2194
01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:01.039
<v Speaker 7>You say something about juggalos one point for Juggalos.

2195
01:49:02.239 --> 01:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>The jugs get one points as a group, So now

2196
01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>it was the Juggalo's one point. Lucy gets too. But

2197
01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, like I feel like I

2198
01:49:14.039 --> 01:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>wanna I want to take points away. I don't want

2199
01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to give points. I want to be like Yo, why

2200
01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:21.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't you mention this? Why didn't you mention why should

2201
01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>we take points away from? I think we should take

2202
01:49:23.039 --> 01:49:26.039
<v Speaker 1>points away from Michael hyam Man. And here's the reason why.

2203
01:49:26.079 --> 01:49:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Here's the reason why. You see this thing here that

2204
01:49:28.399 --> 01:49:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm holding. You slap this bad boy onto an Xbox controller.

2205
01:49:31.560 --> 01:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter where the console is, and then boom,

2206
01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:37.359
<v Speaker 1>you're playing your Xbox. But why is that not mentioned?

2207
01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:41.720
<v Speaker 1>You ever try and do PlayStation now. I started trying

2208
01:49:41.720 --> 01:49:44.079
<v Speaker 1>to use PlayStation now three years ago and I still

2209
01:49:44.119 --> 01:49:47.359
<v Speaker 1>haven't started it. It's still loading and it's been loading

2210
01:49:47.359 --> 01:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>for three years. Right, Xbox, I clicked this button, little

2211
01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:51.640
<v Speaker 1>ship goes by, and I'm playing Yacht is a lucky

2212
01:49:51.720 --> 01:49:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Dragon in my bed with a controller hanging out right?

2213
01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:55.880
<v Speaker 1>How is that not like the first thing that you

2214
01:49:55.920 --> 01:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>mentioned man, every single game on the Xbox becomes a

2215
01:49:58.800 --> 01:50:03.039
<v Speaker 1>game Boy Advance game, Like it's that accessible. I've played?

2216
01:50:03.079 --> 01:50:05.079
<v Speaker 1>You want? How many hours of Yachtaville like a dragon

2217
01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I've played on my iPad? Double the amount that I've

2218
01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:11.159
<v Speaker 1>played on my PC where I should be playing it? Right?

2219
01:50:11.479 --> 01:50:15.079
<v Speaker 1>So that plus smart delivery, like having your save just

2220
01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>instantaneously just oh, by the way, you're playing, Hey your

2221
01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:19.399
<v Speaker 1>PC's like, hey, by the way, I saw you're playing

2222
01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:21.479
<v Speaker 1>like a dragon. Let me just pop this save over here,

2223
01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about let me just get it boom. How

2224
01:50:23.319 --> 01:50:25.039
<v Speaker 1>is that not an immediate thing? You ever try and

2225
01:50:25.119 --> 01:50:28.279
<v Speaker 1>transfer a save to the cloud on PlayStation? I would.

2226
01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I could write the code for my save faster than PlayStation.

2227
01:50:32.199 --> 01:50:34.119
<v Speaker 1>You can figure out to put this stuff in the cloud? Bro,

2228
01:50:35.199 --> 01:50:37.479
<v Speaker 1>we could make I can make a literal cloud of

2229
01:50:37.560 --> 01:50:39.920
<v Speaker 1>information and put it to God, and then God would

2230
01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:42.239
<v Speaker 1>put into my PlayStation five faster.

2231
01:50:42.720 --> 01:50:42.880
<v Speaker 4>Right.

2232
01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:46.239
<v Speaker 3>So many like contract Microsoft to help them with their

2233
01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:47.560
<v Speaker 3>cloud services recently too.

2234
01:50:47.960 --> 01:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's accurate.

2235
01:50:49.279 --> 01:50:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh thank god they're gonna need that help.

2236
01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:54.720
<v Speaker 2>So that being said, then I am all for taking

2237
01:50:55.159 --> 01:50:57.239
<v Speaker 2>a point away from Michael for that, But you brought

2238
01:50:57.279 --> 01:50:59.119
<v Speaker 2>up multiple points. Do you think we should take more

2239
01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:00.279
<v Speaker 2>than one point from Mike?

2240
01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>What's the lead? How many? How many point?

2241
01:51:02.520 --> 01:51:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

2242
01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Can I this is Mary Marty, there's no rules.

2243
01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:08.640
<v Speaker 1>This is I want to I want to see how

2244
01:51:08.840 --> 01:51:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I want to see how many post mortem I could

2245
01:51:12.159 --> 01:51:13.920
<v Speaker 1>take away from Michael so that we can make it

2246
01:51:13.960 --> 01:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>just even between everybody, like, can we make it too?

2247
01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Can we make it? Juggalos one, Lucy too, Matt to Michael,

2248
01:51:20.760 --> 01:51:22.760
<v Speaker 1>hyam too? Can we do that? Can we? Can we

2249
01:51:22.920 --> 01:51:26.479
<v Speaker 1>do a flat electoral college situation with this?

2250
01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:28.239
<v Speaker 7>What's what's the thing that he said that you said

2251
01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:29.640
<v Speaker 7>you were never going to forget? There was a very

2252
01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:33.079
<v Speaker 7>memorable yes, you said, I will not forget it. Yes, okay,

2253
01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:35.520
<v Speaker 7>let me see here. I have so many things here

2254
01:51:36.079 --> 01:51:39.039
<v Speaker 7>I feel like I can grip it. Was one there goes.

2255
01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:42.239
<v Speaker 1>One point five as a popped collar, another point gone

2256
01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:46.720
<v Speaker 1>saying saying that, saying something about huge feet. That's definitely

2257
01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:49.359
<v Speaker 1>my three points. Where was the other one?

2258
01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

2259
01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:51.439
<v Speaker 1>It was the sack boy comment. Where is it? Oh

2260
01:51:51.439 --> 01:51:55.800
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, where is it? Where is at least four points?

2261
01:51:55.880 --> 01:51:59.000
<v Speaker 2>So right now Matt and Michael are tied. Then all right,

2262
01:51:59.079 --> 01:51:59.960
<v Speaker 2>each have four?

2263
01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:01.279
<v Speaker 1>So gamers win.

2264
01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:03.279
<v Speaker 3>The true chaos has been unlocked.

2265
01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they each have four and Lucy Scott two.

2266
01:52:07.199 --> 01:52:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Roxley, do you want to know do you want to

2267
01:52:08.840 --> 01:52:10.720
<v Speaker 1>know how we can actually know the winner here? Of

2268
01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:13.479
<v Speaker 1>everyone on the call right now, how many of us

2269
01:52:13.800 --> 01:52:16.560
<v Speaker 1>have an Xbox? How many of us have a PlayStation five?

2270
01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Because listen, if we learned anything from politics over the

2271
01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>past couple of years, it doesn't matter what you say

2272
01:52:22.039 --> 01:52:23.960
<v Speaker 1>out loud, it matters at the end of the day,

2273
01:52:24.039 --> 01:52:26.079
<v Speaker 1>what is the real result. So if we have more

2274
01:52:26.119 --> 01:52:28.600
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation fives here, then technically Matt might get a point.

2275
01:52:28.760 --> 01:52:31.079
<v Speaker 1>If we have more Xboxes here, then maybe that should

2276
01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>be a point for Michael.

2277
01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:34.279
<v Speaker 3>I think we have more Xboxes here because I think

2278
01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:35.520
<v Speaker 3>both Jakes have one.

2279
01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I have two, is what?

2280
01:52:37.479 --> 01:52:41.079
<v Speaker 2>Actually I have three in my house right now. So man,

2281
01:52:41.479 --> 01:52:42.840
<v Speaker 2>so that's a little unfair.

2282
01:52:43.840 --> 01:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Listen, you are, you're a swing state, your vote means more. No,

2283
01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:49.760
<v Speaker 1>my vote's not part of this.

2284
01:52:51.079 --> 01:52:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Just so the years at home, I did not condone

2285
01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:55.319
<v Speaker 3>to this, and no idea this is happening.

2286
01:52:55.399 --> 01:52:59.720
<v Speaker 1>So innocent of all this chaos, I am not in

2287
01:52:59.800 --> 01:53:02.319
<v Speaker 1>this and it is my fault. Jake invited me knowing

2288
01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:05.199
<v Speaker 1>full well that I'm on pain medication from a shoulder injury.

2289
01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:07.560
<v Speaker 1>So he knew that this was gonna go a little weird.

2290
01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:11.119
<v Speaker 1>But no, I gotta, I gotta. In all fairness, I

2291
01:53:11.119 --> 01:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>do have to give Michael Him aka the AOC of

2292
01:53:13.880 --> 01:53:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Games the winner here because he really sold me. Man.

2293
01:53:17.159 --> 01:53:20.199
<v Speaker 1>I was very I said this before the show even started.

2294
01:53:20.199 --> 01:53:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I was very mid on the next gen. I'm like,

2295
01:53:22.399 --> 01:53:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I got my PC. I'm good for a couple of years.

2296
01:53:24.479 --> 01:53:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing whatever I need to play here. But I'm

2297
01:53:27.079 --> 01:53:31.039
<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie man frictionless talking about sac Boy really's

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<v Speaker 1>given the down to Earth arguments. You know, Michael him

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<v Speaker 1>is Assault of the Earth guy that really sold me

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<v Speaker 1>on Assault of the Earth console, and that is the

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<v Speaker 1>Xbox you know, well, I think the Xbox One. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think the Xbox One.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what we're gonna have to end this with.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, sorry, the Xbox One or the Xbox Series X.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying, why did why didn't they do a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial where it was like the Xbox Series and one dude, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been they shouldn't have called the Xbox

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<v Speaker 1>Series X. They shouldn't call it the Xbox One. Wo

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<v Speaker 1>n that would have been the biggest gigaflex of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Spencer, please hire me man, you know my number.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time, next console launch, maybe they'll do the Xbox one. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you all so much for joining Fogy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you wanna tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit about what you do and where people

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<v Speaker 2>can find you and where they can support your work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks for having me on. You can find me

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter and Twitch under Fogie Underscore, Bay Fog Underscore

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<v Speaker 3>Bear lots of ridiculousness and fun stuff going on. I

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<v Speaker 3>do a lot of fighting game related content as of now,

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01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:41.520
<v Speaker 3>but with the world shutdown, kind of shifting to other

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and focusing on some other things and adding for

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<v Speaker 3>some dreamers and whatnot. But yeah, find me on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>and Twitch. Come through, say what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob?

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<v Speaker 3>How about you?

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<v Speaker 7>You can find me on Twitter at Jacob McCort. I

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01:54:54.560 --> 01:54:57.279
<v Speaker 7>host two podcasts. The first is called up Behind Game Club.

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<v Speaker 7>It is a video game book club podcast you can

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<v Speaker 7>find at left behind game dot Club. And I also

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<v Speaker 7>host a video game movie podcast called Cutscenes. We just

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<v Speaker 7>finished season one last month. We are starting season two

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<v Speaker 7>in February of twenty one. So if you like video

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<v Speaker 7>game movies, come through.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you talked about Doom the Doom movie?

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<v Speaker 7>We have not, but that is on our list to

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<v Speaker 7>talk about because we stan DJ. I do not know

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<v Speaker 7>the man, so I probably shouldn't call him DJ, but

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<v Speaker 7>we stand the rock, so.

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<v Speaker 1>We will watch it someday.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, DJ, Queen Johnson my Palada someone named DJ.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened all I remember from that movie?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it in theaters and I just remember the

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<v Speaker 2>extended first person scene that's just like Doom but in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie, and it was like, this is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as a kid, I was like, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think this is it.

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<v Speaker 7>Most video game movies bad, but the podcast a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Well check that out.

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<v Speaker 5>Ian?

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<v Speaker 1>How about you? So you can follow me at Lucy

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<v Speaker 1>James Games. I am a senior video producer. I gave no.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow me on Twitter and twitch at Ian

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<v Speaker 1>y not I A n W H Y n OT.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like anime and you are part of if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a part of the Anti Anime Alliance like

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<v Speaker 1>Jake is, you can follow my anime podcast. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a plus anime all spelled out that is AP l

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<v Speaker 1>U S A N I m E. We also have

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube channel where we break down tons of anime stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We just put out a video talking about why my

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<v Speaker 1>hero Academias current arc is maybe not as good as

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<v Speaker 1>you think it is, which is very YouTube title, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can also follow me on YouTube. I do tons

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<v Speaker 1>of weird, silly comedy videos and stuff. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>show called Off the bean where I sit on a

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<v Speaker 1>bean bag and just go down these weird rabbit holes

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<v Speaker 1>of thoughts and I think that's it. Oh, speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit holes, I have a series coming out at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this month called rabbit Holes where I try

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<v Speaker 1>and do these ridiculous sort of challenges and I give

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<v Speaker 1>myself one month to do it. Uh. The first one

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm doing here is, uh, I'm trying to become

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<v Speaker 1>a voice actor in one month. So as I love anime,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get on an anime and become a

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<v Speaker 1>voice actor with a job in one month. So there

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<v Speaker 1>you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now that you know where to find all of

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<v Speaker 2>these people, if you're mad that they have decided that

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<v Speaker 2>Michael one and then Xbox is better and that PlayStation sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>you can find them on Twitter and complain to all

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<v Speaker 2>of them. GameSpot had nothing to do with this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>stepping away. I'm stepping away. You can't get mad at me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it works.

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<v Speaker 3>Bring it on, Bring it on, sweaties, he says.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, thank you all so much for joining, and

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<v Speaker 2>we will see all next week. Bye bye, soon to

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<v Speaker 2>return to