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Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist

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Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior elections correspondent at the Federalist,

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and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for knowledge. As always,

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Our guest today multiple the extraordinary reporters and editors from

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the greatest elections reporting team, the Federalist and God ever assembled,

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assembled for you on this edition of the Federalist Radio

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Hour podcast a special edition, and to share their knowledge

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and advice on what to watch on election Day. I

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should note we are recording this on Election Eve, and

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I am very grateful for the generosity of the time

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of this elections team. Being on this elections team, I

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know that time is a commodity that none of us has,

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and so I very much appreciate all of you being here.

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Let's go around the table and introduce the members of

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the team. This is not the full survey of the team,

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but those who could indeed join us at this time

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and I'll begin with our extraordinary editor, el Pernell. Well,

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welcome to the Federalist Radio Hour.

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Speaker 2: Hey Matt, great to join.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about what you do and

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how you assembled this crack team of reporters from all

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over the country.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 4: So, one of the things that we did during, especially

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following the twenty twenty election, was covering what went wrong.

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Everybody had a sense after twenty twenty that something fishy

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had gone down. It wasn't the kind of election that

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they expected or that they remembered from previous cycles. But

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people had a hard time putting their finger on exactly

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what had gone down, what was legit, what was rumor,

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And so we covered things from the zuck bucks that

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were poured into blue localities of swing states, or the

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media suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story, or any untold

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number of things, the push for mail and balloting during

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COVID and the ways that affected the twenty twenty election.

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So we covered that kind of in the aftermath. Our

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editor in chief, Molly Hemingway, wrote a great book called

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Rigged about It. But then for this election, we wanted

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to start on the front end instead of covering it

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in the aftermath. So we started assembling our team about

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a year ago and added different ones of you guys

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throughout the year, and we've been covering not just the campaign,

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but election administration, efforts to change election law in swing states.

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The fights that are going on in campaign finance are

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in ground game with get out on the vote or

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voter registration, censorship on social media, and big tech. So

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those are some of the things we've been covering this year,

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and tomorrow is just the culmination of all that work.

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Speaker 1: Ah indeed, and it's been quite a journey. I'm going

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to turn to the rest of the members of this

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elections team. I want you to state your name for

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the record. It's like you're being deposed and who knows

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in this business, right, but state your name for the

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record and the areas that you have specialized in what

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you cover, what you're doing. I'll begin with Brianna. Go ahead, Brianna,

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tell us a little bit about what you do.

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Speaker 5: Hey, everybody, my name is Brianna Lyman. I cover Georgia

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and I've been really fortunate to see how the twenty

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twenty election is still impacting this upcoming election. So some

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of the big things I've been covering these past few

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months is the Georgia State Election Board, which creates rules

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and procedures for counties to follow for election administration. We've

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seen lawfare being deployed against these members, the three Republican

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members who have tried to create rules I would ensure

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accuracy and transparency, and like Elle mentioned, we will see

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the culmination of the effects in this democratic law fair

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this week if Georgia is delaying their results, if there

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are issues with counting. So that's something I've been focused

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on and it's something I will have my eye out

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for starting tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Big state, very very important in this election. Pennsylvania. Breath's

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Beth Penncil Breathless, Pennsylvania breath. Yeah, guess that's how busy

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she's been interviewed yoursel please?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's Beth Brellia. I've got a funny jay in

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my last name, and people always say how do you

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pronounce it? So that's how you do it. That's brilliant.

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Anyw way, Yeah, I cover Pennsylvania. I've lived in Pennsylvania

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state a long time, and I think the neat thing

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about this election is we have language that we really

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didn't have before.

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Speaker 7: We have.

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Speaker 6: As citizens become aware that we need to better understand

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the machinations behind how all them candidates, of how our

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elections run, right, We need to understand that better and

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so citizens can have their eyes open more to what's

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going on. Pennsylvania, of course, a big battle ground state,

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and we feel like iowall right now we're like the

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bell of the ball where the presidential candidates are finally

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noticing us. You know, we have our primary so late

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in the game that we feel kind of unimportant, but

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now we're really shining. And one thing I've noticed is

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metropolitan areas, and Trump is going some metro areas, but

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also I'm hitting more of the countryside. So it's a

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pretty interesting breakdown. We've got nineteen electoral votes here in

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Pennsylvania in twenty twenty, Trump lost to Biden by just

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eighty one thousand, six hundred some odd votes, so not

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a lot. It was a pretty it was a squeaker

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and a lot more, a lot more. Even though the

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breakdown right now is let me just give you this

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breakdown here. We've got three point nine million Democrats three

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point seven million Republicans. So that's a difference of two

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hundred eighty six thousand voters, right, But the other voters,

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there's one point four million voters who have not declared

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a party, and they're going to decide. I mean, they

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can easily overtake that two hundred and eighty six thousand gap.

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Is it going to be for Republicans or Democrats? But

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we'll soon find out.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get back to you on that because

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Pennsylvania at least is one of the states where you

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can track what has become extremely important in this election,

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a real change for Republicans, and that is voting early,

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absentee ballots, getting out those voters to vote early so

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you don't have to depend on everything on a very

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long and arduous election day, election night, and into the

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upcoming days. Reck and tell us a little bit about

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what you're covering, what you're seeing. You have a very

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interesting state that had suffered through an awful, harrowing disaster,

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and that of course is North Carolina.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, and I think that Helene primarily and

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the state Board of Election and local boards which are

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all across the entire state run by Democrats, because that's

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the way they do it in North Carolina is.

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Speaker 7: Going to be kind of the.

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Speaker 8: Foundation through which North Carolina's election tomorrow is going to

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go in my opinion, you know, just to get some

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numbers out of the way. In twenty twenty, Biden lost

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the state by about seventy five thousand votes. In twenty sixteen,

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Trump won the state by about one hundred thousand us

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winning and Helene.

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Speaker 7: We don't know what that's going to look like.

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Speaker 8: We know that that's probably increased a lot of absentee

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voting in the state that would otherwise happen. We also,

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as I've reported, the Democrat run local elections boards have been,

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you know, making it harder for people to get to

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the polls out in the western counties over there, which

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had had to be resolved by the state legislature, forcing

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them to do something about opening up emergency polling locations

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and things like that. But as we sit today, fifty

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seven percent of the state has already voted. Again that

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those western counties affected by Helene are the Republicans stronghold

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in the state and that carried over a quarter of

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a million net votes for Trump last time around, and

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they're the ones who are finding it harder to get

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to the polls. And again the trend is going more

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and more purple to blue in the state. The governor

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is a Democrat. You've got a Democrat who is likely

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to win on the for governor again because of scandal

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that's happening in the states, so that the tickets is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes it is. And if we only had more

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time to go into the scandal that is surrounding the

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GOP candidate. Listen, there's much more to get to. I

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should say. I introduced him as Breckon. He's not like

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the artist formerly known as or you know, the Madonna

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of election coverage. He is Breckon Thieves. He also covers Pennsylvania.

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Pennsylvania is just that big. We need all hands on

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deck to cover that important state because, as it's been expressed,

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you can win without Pennsylvania, but you better not try.

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Just the way the electoral map is going. We have

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an excellent editor on our elections team as well, who

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cleans up all of our messes, or at least helps

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to do that. Along with L and others. But Mazie Jefferson, Mazie,

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what have you seen in terms of the coverage coming

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through and as you followed this, what scares you the

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most about Election twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Matt, And it's great to be

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with everyone here today in the elections team as an

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editor over the summer and have been working alongside L

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and this wonderful team, reading all of their wonderful investigative

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work and sending story tips their way, fact checking, and

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like you said, making sure the eyes are dotted and

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the teaser crossed, so to speak, before this much needed

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information goes out to readers and voters. I think something

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just I've learned so much from all of you guys

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about the just about the election process and how especially

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in swing state's, elections really are so much more than

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just the campaign stories but often skewed campaign stories that

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the legacy media is putting in front of voters and

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so I'm really thankful for all the work you guys

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have done and that I've gotten to be a part

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of about getting the real story to readers and bringing

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that important reporting about election administration and litigation that often

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gets lost in the weeds where voters just don't have

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that information or a reliable version of that information. And

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, that's a great point. I want to

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the years, investigated the zuck Bucks back in twenty twenty

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and all of the shenanigans that were pulled in what

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Molly hamming Way, our editor in chief, has talked about

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as a rigged election for so many reasons, and not

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necessarily the reasons that have been uttered or given by some,

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but because of what we have seen in terms of

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the machinations involving big tech and accomplice corporate media, the

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propaganda media. NOL. Let me ask you this, as you've

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led this team, how much has Mazie noted how much

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have corporate media players played in this election in terms

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of absolute interference in how the election and the administration

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of this election is presented?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, well, I mean, we've got an example as

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recent as Saturday with NBC providing what ended up being

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basically a campaign contribution to the Harris campaign by having

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Harris on Saturday Night Live in what was an obvious

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evasion of the equal time requirement. And then they had

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to let Donald Trump do a free ad on Sunday afternoon.

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we had. The ridiculous was it? On Friday? Donald Trump

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said he suggested that Liz Cheney should try fighting her

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own foreign forever wars that she sends Americans to fight in,

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she should try it herself sometime, And the media just

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went into overdrive with this hoax that Donald Trump had

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called for Liz Cheney to be executed by firing squad.

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Speaker 2: Less bad answer. So those are just.

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that they've run interference for the Harris campaign.

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Speaker 2: That's not really new.

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not to cover the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and how

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that scandal implicated President Joe Biden. In twenty sixteen, they

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ran the russiacclusion hoax about Donald Trump. So this isn't

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anything new. But I think what is changed is.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps that people don't.

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Speaker 4: Buy the hoaxes as much anymore. Like the life cycle

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of these hoaxes has shrunk so quickly from like what

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five years of Russia Russia Russia to now like these

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things people know that they're they're ridiculous and they stop

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buying them within like twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: But is anybody being held accountable for this stuff? I mean,

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it's it's taken years. And you're right, the life cycle

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of these things is relatively short compared to where they

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used to be. But it's taken years for the Washington Post,

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even if they acknowledge it at all, with the New

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York Times or CNN to say, oh, you know what

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we were wrong about the whole Russian collusion thing. Oh,

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it turns out that Democrats were buying this Russian portfolio,

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this you know, operative information, you know, and we've seen

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so many myriad examples of this going along in two

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thousand and twenty four. It's not like, you know that

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we have seen anybody learning from there. I remember in

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sixteen we had the Mia Kulpa coming from the Washington Post,

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you know, and the Ams Budsman saying, oh, you know,

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we have to do better at recognizing there are other

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voters not and we should pay attention to the fact

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that they care about elections too, other than the people

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that we are constantly addressing, you know, the whole elitist

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movement that's gone on in this country for such a

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long time. What is interesting, though, all about this election,

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Joe Rogan interview in this election, for instance?

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Speaker 4: It had gotten like millions of views in the first

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couple hours, and now it's at like tens of millions

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of views at least. So I think, I think to

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what you were saying a minute ago, I do think

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that the corporate media have kind of realized that their

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reputation is in tatters and this is an existential election

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for them. I think it was some TV executive said

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if was it in a political article Axios maybe recently.

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means that our industry is dead as we know it,

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because that means people just start listening to us anymore.

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way for these media outlets to learn their lesson, it's

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for Donald Trump to win tomorrow. But yeah, it was

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amazing that so Joe Rogan had also an extended invitation

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to Kamala Harris to come on his show at the

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same time that he offered a spot to Donald Trump

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on his show, and the campaign like they wanted him

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to come to her instead of her flying down to Texas, right,

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And he wanted to cut it to an hour, and

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they wanted to make certain topics off limits. And Rogan

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was like, well, no, that's not how I do my show.

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I'd love to have you on, but you have to do.

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Speaker 2: It my way.

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Speaker 4: It was just amazing that this podcast host, this guy

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has more leverage power than the Vice president of the

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United States. I think that speaks really strongly to where

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we're at in the media landscape.

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Speaker 1: And on that point, I've heard a lot of conservatives

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say this over and over again. Thank God for Elon

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musk X has absolutely changed. Well, think about it. I

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think about twenty twenty, Think about who ran Twitter, Think

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about what they were doing at Twitter. We know the

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congressional investigations, what went down with all of the real

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collusion that went out on out there between the deep

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State and between the big tech giants out there. I'm

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going to get to election administruation and Rihanna Elections are

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messy in general, certainly can be. Was there any election

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messier than twenty twenty in Fulton County? How far has

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Georgia come from that disastrous period of time in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I don't think they've come far enough. Back in May,

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the State Election Board they came to an agreement that

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acknowledged that Fulton County in twenty twenty double scanned more

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than three thousand ballots. There are still actually missing ballot images.

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All of these problems culminated in a letter of reprimand

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to Fulton County, and Fulton County actually had issues in

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their previous election cycles between twenty twenty and twenty twenty four.

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the county but the state to figure out a way

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to ensure that this go around there would be no hiccups.

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And the State Election Board has worked very diligently to

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ensure that the issues we saw in twenty twenty wouldn't

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be replicated. So one of the things they were doing

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was passing approving rules that, for instance, said you have

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to make sure that the hand count matches the machine count. Right,

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it's reconciliation you're basically making sure that the number of

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votes count it matches the number of physical ballots that

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were handed in very basic processes. And like I mentioned earlier,

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Democrats immediately jumped to law fare to shoot these roles down.

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And the only reason you would want to shoot a

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rule as basic as reconciliation down is if there's something

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the ferry is going on, because otherwise, this was a

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rule that ensures accuracy and transparency. And Fulton County, one

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of the I'll call it a remedy is that they

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would have a monitoring team. Except the monitoring team who's

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supposed to be overseeing Fulton County doesn't want to provide

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any information on what it's been doing these past few weeks.

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I've inquired with them several times. I've inquired with members

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of the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, and

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it's relatively mump. And that's concerning because if they were

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not able to acknowledge and rectify the issues of twenty twenty,

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it's almost infeasible to see how they'd be able to

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ensure that those don't happen again tomorrow. So you know,

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Fulton County, I think will be at the center of

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Georgia once again, because there were issues in twenty twenty

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that were not addressed properly, because there were issues in

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twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. So you know,

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I do think Georgia is going to be once again

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at the center of the election entirely, and Fulton County

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will be that pinpoint.

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Speaker 1: Is it any wonder that so many Americans are concerned

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about our elections, the integrity of our elections, I mean,

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and that Branda Georgia just just refuses to And then

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you have people who campaign Republicans who are campaigning on,

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you know, being tough on election integrity and how many

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times have they been rolled over in Georgia and let's

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face it, other swing states and states across this country.

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But you've covered that extensively.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And one of the reasons that people like you

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say roll over is because there's such a large cohort

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in the media.

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Speaker 2: And I'll you know, really spoke to this.

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Speaker 5: But the way that the propaganda press has been working

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for months is that one of the issues in Georgia

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and in Fulton County has been, well, we don't want

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to certify an election if we don't have the accurate

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data to ensure that the election was conducted and administered.

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Speaker 2: Properly, very fair.

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Speaker 5: You know, people are signing their names, and the mainstream

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media has just gone on this tyrate of this rampage saying, well,

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if you don't certify, you know your threat to democracy,

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and certification is ministerial, meaning you just have to rubber

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stamp it, rather than discretionary, which would be, oh, there's

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an irregularity, let's not certify until we figure out what

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went wrong. And Georgia election officials, who voters should rightfully

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be able to trust to take steps needed to ensure

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accuracy have kind of jumped on the media's bandwagon saying no, yeah,

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a certification is ministerial.

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Speaker 2: People who don't think so, you know.

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Speaker 5: They're threatening to disrupt the electoral process. And so you're

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seeing people Republicans and Republican states who are actually acting

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more like Democrats in a lot of cases because they

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don't care about election integrity and security the same way

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these on the ground grassroot activists do day in and

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day out and are working to simply ensure that every

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legal vote that is cast counts and every vote that

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Speaker 9: Our guest today is the left keeps preaching for a

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quality of kamala Is elected, but is this a dystopian America?

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The Watchdout on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every

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day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the

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Speaker 1: Affects your wallet.

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Speaker 10: The idea that we're all supposed to end up in

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the exact same place, even after working much harder than

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they are. That's like a dystopian Kurt Vonnegut novel. Whether

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Speaker 1: Our guests today several members of the Federalist Elections Team.

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that has done extensive, exhaustive work over the LEF last

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People with deep sources can connect you with the information

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that you absolutely should have, expect to have, must have

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as we enter a critical election. Beth, I'm want to

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turn to you. You were just covering in a very

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important part of Pennsylvania a visit by former President Donald Trump,

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the GOP's presidential nominee. It was in Pennsylvania that we

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had the shocking moment, the stunning moment of a near

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assassination of the former president and the GOP presidential candidate.

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What's the feeling on the ground from Pennsylvania that I

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know that rippled through the GOP convention just days after

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that event, I was there in Milwaukee covering it. I

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can only imagine what it must be like in Pennsylvania

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where it happened.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's a big state, and Butler is Uh,

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where the shooting, the attempted assassination happened, is close to Pittsburgh,

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and the further east you go, the less we feel

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like one state. There's different personalities in every corner. You know,

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we're we're almost Texas sized, so we're pretty big. But

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but yeah, people are obviously a lot of the political

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people in the state attended the Trump rally because they

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want to be heard, like Dave McCormick and the heads

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of the r n C, and a lot of them

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were present in the row is not far from Uh

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where the people were actually shot. Some even had blood

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on them, and so I remember that we were on

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the phone with some of the people who are still

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on the ground. There was a lot of chaos and

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trying to figure out what had happened at that moment.

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But since then you would think, you know, the state

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police was really involved, and it's still involved in the

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ongoing investigation into what happened in Butler, and so it's

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really odd. Just yesterday Trump was in Lancaster for another rally.

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last two weeks filling rallies, and then Elon Musk was

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here in between that time. So they're really focusing on

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this area and our surrounding counties. But he had a

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podium that had glass on three sides of it. And

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I'm not talking total glass, like he had glass in

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front of him, you know, really thick glass. You don't

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know until he a seat in person think it is.

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right side and glass behind him gaps all around, but

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his left side totally exposed to He was at the

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Lancaster Airport, which is a very small airport. It doesn't

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handle full sized gents there.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt it. How is that allowed to happen?

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Haven't we had enough of US secret service debacles at

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this point? I mean, we talk about the Butler incident.

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Of course, that was extraordinary. It's not too much longer.

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Later at Trump's golf course, we have a guy hanging

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out in the shrubbery. For god's sake. What is going on?

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Speaker 6: Well, you take the golf course incident, which is like

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big open field, right and with a little bit of groundcover,

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and then you take the Butler incident, which is rooftops.

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on with general public because I had a camera. I

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got kicked out of general public and they put me

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back in the media pen where we're stuck and can't

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talk to the public. But I waited for hours in

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line with the general public. And the chattering line was, well,

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are they going to put some on the roofs because

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there's you know, this is a pretty open place around here.

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And indeed the open side of the of his stage

480
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was next to this open field, the airfield and farms beyond,

481
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and then he kind of he was talking about it.

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There there were sharpshooters on top of one of the hangars.

483
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I only saw two of them, but they were on

484
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the side where the glass was, but on the side

485
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that was totally exposed, was wide open and somebody could

486
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be there, So he didn't. He made some comments on that,

487
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of course. He you know, the media, I will say,

488
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when you're a reporter and you go to a lot

489
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of political stump speeches, which is really not where the

490
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,359
media should be covering the news. We should be doing

491
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more of the election integrity stuff that we're doing here

492
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at the Federalist because a stump speech is going to

493
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be the same thing with a new audience every time,

494
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so reporters don't have much fresh to say, and they're

495
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really there looking for that one thing that's different. Well,

496
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the one thing different he said, was Hey, what's up

497
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with my glass? You know, I know it doesn't I

498
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,079
don't look so good on TV through this glass. And

499
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he kind of wishes the glass wasn't in front of

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him on TV. And he said, I've got this big

501
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open space here and there's a big field, but there's

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the media in front of me, and it's a big

503
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you know, a whole bunch of risers right, So it's

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tall and there's a bunch of people on it. He said,

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you know, if someone wanted to get me, they'd have

506
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to shoot through the media first. And then he says

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in the way Trump would say, I don't mind that

508
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so much, and everybody laughed. Well, then the media's like, hey,

509
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wants to kill us, you know, And that's been the

510
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news now today.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that's that's how it goes. And you know,

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let's face it, the way that the corporate media has

513
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covered this. You know, I'm going to say, I wouldn't

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be entirely surprised with all of their narratives about the

515
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next Hitler and fascist and all of that sort of

516
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thing if the you know, the attempt doesn't come from

517
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the media section there. I said it put it out there. Reckon.

518
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You have covered not only Pennsylvania and North Carolina, but Virginia,

519
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and I want to shift into I think one of

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the biggest issues of this election that the accomplice media

521
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has absolutely tried to downplay at every turn, and that's

522
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non citizens on voter registrations. Virginia played a pretty significant

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part in that. In fact, the state found itself in

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a legal battle now being targeted by the epinized Department

525
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of Justice in the Biden Harris administration. What's the situation there,

526
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and if you could speak, you know, generally to this

527
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because we have seen, as we've reported at the Federalists,

528
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thousands upon thousands of non citizens, foreign nationals on our

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voter rolls. That speaks to a real problem in election integrity.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the current situation is that the US Supreme

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Court allowed Virginia to remove somewhere around fifteen hundred non

533
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citizen people who are on the voter rolls.

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Speaker 7: And they're non.

535
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Speaker 8: Citizen by self identifying as non citizen, by the way,

536
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I think, which is an important distinction, because they were asked,

537
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they said they weren't, and they were added to the

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voter roles. Anyway, that that has been an issue, and

539
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I wrote a piece on this for a long time

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in Virginia and I think in a lot of other

541
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states too, where the kind of departments, whether it's Department

542
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of Elections or the Secretary of State's office or whoever

543
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it is, has sort of been complicit in allowing these

544
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people to get on the voter rolls. And some of

545
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it has to do with being a member of this organization, Eric,

546
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some states have left, but basically they're like, if you

547
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are a member of our voter role cleanup organization, then

548
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you have to solicit not people who I've identified as

549
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non citizens to be able to vote, like you know,

550
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in case they have changed their citizens ship status and

551
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become citizens, is what they say.

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Speaker 7: But oftentimes this means that you're just kind of.

553
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Speaker 8: Automatically enrolling thousands upon thousands of non citizens to be

554
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able to vote. In Virginia, they did have the legal battle.

555
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It lost in the Youngin administration. You tried to remove

556
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these non citizens, lost at the district and appellate levels.

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Speaker 4: But then the US I reckon, I just want to

558
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can I just cinder for you real quick? It was

559
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the Biden Harris Department of Justice that decided to pick

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this fight to begin with.

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Speaker 2: This is something with Virginia has.

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Speaker 4: Done for years, like this program is signed off by

563
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a Democrat governor, but this was a fight that the

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Biden Harris DOJ decided to pick right before election day.

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Speaker 1: And not just in Virginia. I'll add this was also

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their fight that they chose to pick in Alabama, and

574
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I think it reckon. It speaks to a bigger point.

575
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I wanted to ask you about that. We've seen the

576
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Save Act, you know, a legislation in the House of Representatives.

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All that it would have required was that you provide

578
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documentation that you are a US citizen as you go

579
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to register to vote, basic voter integrity. The Democrats fought

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that the Senate, the Democrat controlled Senate refused to take

581
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it up. After Republicans passed it, Joe Biden threatened to

582
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veto it. We have our states. We have covered myriad

583
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stories about leftist lawfare going on to stop any attempt

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at trying to have this kind of election integrity where

585
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you can check whether non citizens are on the voter rules.

586
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:56,920
Why do you why do you think that is from

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from the left, from from the Democrats.

588
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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I mean that is one of the most

589
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bizarre things that you could you could possibly think of,

590
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and it's I think a Supreme Court case back in

591
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twenty thirteen said you couldn't ask people for citizenship status

592
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to vote in federal elections, but maybe you could in

593
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local elections or something. That's where Arizona is somewhere in there.

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But so it seems unthinkable that you'd be able, you

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would not be able to verify that someone's a citizen

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in the country in order to be able or even

597
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the state for that matter, to be able to to

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register to vote. I've been told by people in Virginia,

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like you know, local Republican Party representatives and things like that,

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that they just fundamentally think that people like the Biden

601
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:50,559
Harrison administration Democrats generally want illegals to be able to

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vote in our elections and they don't want any kind

603
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of accountability for that whatsoever. And in a place like Virginia,

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which has been trending blue, but they are a little

605
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worried about it. I mean, we brought up Saturday Night

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Live earlier, you know, they had Tim Kaine on the

607
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:09,480
senator from Virginia used up for reelection as well, because

608
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they were worried about I think they were worried about

609
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Virginia being closer than they thought it was going to

610
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be for Harris and for Caine's election. The Democrats seem

611
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to be wanting to grab onto as many sort of

612
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:29,320
untrackable illegal votes that kind of can't be challenged because

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you know, there's not a lot of ton of data

614
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:35,079
out there to do it as possible, and so, you know,

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any kind of voter roll cleanup, and they've always been

616
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against that because I mean, that's how you get you know,

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the longgoing joke is that you know, once people die,

618
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,079
they all start becoming Democrats because that's, you know, because

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they they do not want voter roal cleanup. And it's

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because you know, they want as many people they think

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you've seen it in Washington, d C. Neighbor of Virginia,

622
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Eagles can actually vote in DC, and they can vote

623
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in a couple of other cities across.

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Speaker 1: The eustry as well in local elections.

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Speaker 8: But of course this is how the trend is going,

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and they're trying to shoehorn in all these people and

627
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they say, Oh, it's suppression, or it's you know, you're

628
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scaring people to know. These people don't have the right

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to vote, they're not citizens in the country.

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Speaker 1: So I think and I wish the Trump campaign toward

631
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,000
the final hours of the election would shift to this

632
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:34,559
campaign slogan, make SNL funny again. That would be a

633
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:39,719
great benefit for all of us. Mazie, you have seen

634
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a lot of election stories come in over the last

635
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,519
several months, probably more than you expected or wanted. But

636
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,519
here they keep coming because it's such a broad and

637
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:57,760
necessary field of coverage. What has what is intrigued you

638
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:04,039
most about the store that have defined this election cycle?

639
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: That's good question.

640
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Speaker 6: I think.

641
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Speaker 3: I think just how willing the media is to cherry

642
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:18,920
pick and push back on what's actually happening, you know,

643
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thinking of the Liz Chainey comments that Elle mentioned, or

644
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,519
the piece that Beth wrote about how the media was

645
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:32,239
more concerned about Trump's assassination joke than they were ever

646
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,440
actually concerned about the attempt on his life. Is you know,

647
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so suppressing the stories that actually matter. The fact that

648
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violent rhetoric that encourages violence, perpetuated by the media, you know,

649
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leads to assassination attempts and the justification of violence, the

650
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fact that that's pushed aside, but we're willing to spend

651
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pages and pages talking about out of context comments that

652
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are basically leading voters to believe that something that never

653
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happened or that we've never said is actually happening. And

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I'm just I'm so surprised by how willing the media

655
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especially are too unabashedly push an agenda. It's just it's

656
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working for the federalists, where you know, we're fact checking,

657
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we're putting out the most accurate and real versions of

658
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the stories of what's actually happening. I just can't believe

659
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how willing these surrogates are to put out non truths

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and incomplete truths to push people to their side.

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Speaker 1: That is that is a great point. And I don't know,

662
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I have a feeling how you feel about all of this,

663
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all of you. But you know, I've been in this

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business longer than I like to acknowledge. In fact, I

665
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,199
go to support groups and I walk in and I

666
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,239
say hello, my name is Matt. I'm a journalist, so

667
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I'm Att. Yeah, we understand. I have been ashamed of

668
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:23,280
this business. I've been proud of particular reporters rebelling and

669
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pushing back against this business and what it has done

670
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to reporters, particularly young reporters out there. But I am

671
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I'm ashamed at what this has become in this country.

672
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And I think there was a real dynamic shift that

673
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took place after Barack Obama was elected. And we don't

674
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have time to delve into all that happened. And I understand,

675
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you know, you can go back and you can take

676
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:55,480
a look at, you know, the the movement that happened

677
00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:01,159
post Clinton and George W. Bush and move on dot

678
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,880
org and all of that stuff. But things really changed

679
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:10,840
in journalism, I think within late in the first term

680
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,920
of Barack Obama, but it has really there are so

681
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:23,400
many instances of malpractice in journalism in this election cycle

682
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alone that has really made me in so many ways

683
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to feel ashamed of being part of this business. That's

684
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why I'm very proud that there are news organizations still

685
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alive and well. Like the Federalists, I'm going to go

686
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around the table with the reporters. We just have a

687
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few minutes left. But Rihanna, I want to ask you first,

688
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what do you expect out of Georgia tomorrow. What do

689
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you expect in terms of election day? Where do we

690
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go from here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a load of question for Georgia. I expect

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that we will see Fulton obviously be the biggest county

693
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of contention, mainly because they have a monitoring team monitoring them.

694
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There's a lot of issues going on. I do think

695
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some other counties we should keep an eye on would

696
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be to Cobb and Cobb County.

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Speaker 2: I think those are going to be the three.

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Speaker 5: And I do hope that they can get their act

699
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,039
together and we can get close to results. If they're

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not going to deliver results to us as they should,

701
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,639
are we going to have.

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Speaker 1: The same experience that we had in Fulton County in

703
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twenty twenty Lights go out or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 2: Matt, I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 5: I am not counting anything out, and I think given

706
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the current administration and people in charge.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a very good possibility.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Beth, what about Pennsylvania. What are you hearing and

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what do you expect out of election Day twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 6: Well, the Department of State in Pennsylvania wants you to

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know that you shouldn't expect election results out of this

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major battleground state tomorrow. That's just something we used to

713
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be able to do. Yeah, but I did hear today,

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right before this little chat that we're having here, might

715
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have results by Wednesday afternoon. That's a new target, because

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I had been hearing it could be like a week

717
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or more. So Wednesday afternoon almost sounds acceptable, except I'm

718
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having a hard time swallowing that we wouldn't have election

719
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results night of I'm just so accustomed to that. It is.

720
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You know, I can't predict who's going to win at

721
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this point. There's a lot of momentum in the early voting,

722
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,800
which Pennsylvania doesn't actually have early voting, but something very

723
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similar to early voting. A lot of Republicans took advantage

724
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of that. But if you look at the state statistics,

725
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more Democrats than Republicans have actually turned in mail in

726
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ballots at this point. So although Republicans for the first

727
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,960
time have embraced this mail and voting, they still don't

728
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,599
have as many as the Democrats. So when those are opened,

729
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that'll be very interesting.

730
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to meet the Democrats where they live.

731
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That's been the message from the GOP. We've been covering

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that of course throughout the year, how successful have they

733
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been and delivering those earlier absentee ballots. As we transition

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755
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You know, we talked about it earlier on in the podcast,

756
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but this is an area that was absolutely smacked around

757
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,360
by Hurricane Helene, and there are all kinds of concerns

758
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,039
and issues that they might not be able to get

759
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:04,440
all the ballots out and return by people in these

760
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:09,440
affected areas. How does North Carolina look going into election day?

761
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think it's it's that issue, the

762
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Helene issue, and then and then one other issue that

763
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I'll get to momentarily that are going to kind of

764
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be the two things I'm watching tomorrow. And with with Helene,

765
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,599
I mean, they have done some things, They've gotten a

766
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lot of early voting potential out, They've they've done some

767
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,239
emergency voting locations because some of those locations, many of

768
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,079
them actually were destroyed by the hurricane.

769
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Speaker 7: And and really.

770
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Speaker 8: But since then, I mean, you know, it's it's been

771
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a bit of a black kind of box there about

772
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what really looks like on the ground in western North Carolina.

773
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And you know, it will be something that I think

774
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we're just going to have to see in the returns

775
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,280
to see if those those places, the sort of a

776
00:47:56,519 --> 00:47:59,679
percentage of people participating in voting.

777
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Speaker 7: There have been affected. I know that.

778
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,159
Speaker 8: I think in twenty sixteen, I want to say, maybe

779
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,320
it was twenty twenty, I can't remember. There was another

780
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,960
hurricane that hit North Carolina, although it was the East Coast,

781
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:16,320
which is more used to hurricanes, and it affected their

782
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,360
overall vote by something like one percent. But that's significant

783
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,679
in the state that's going to be as close as

784
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North Carolina. Seems like it's going to be the other

785
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:28,159
thing off flag. We don't have time to explain exactly

786
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:30,679
what yuokava is, but I just want to get it

787
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,000
in there. And we have written extensively on it about this,

788
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,119
but I think this is a particular issue in North

789
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Carolina because North Carolina has some of the most wax

790
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:41,480
laws in the country on yokava.

791
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Speaker 1: And you say yokava, we know these terms. We write

792
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:46,079
about it, all right, Yes.

793
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Speaker 8: Yes, Yeah, that's uniformed and overseas voters, So think military

794
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and state department people primarily. Although it is in favor,

795
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,039
most of those people are state department not military, which

796
00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:00,320
is an important distinction as well because those people tend

797
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to vote Democrat.

798
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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 8: The reason I bring this up though, is because in

800
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North Carolina there is no excuse absentee voting for a

801
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,280
long period of time, I think the longest in the country,

802
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and there are still over two hundred thousand outstanding absentee

803
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votes and they don't let you know which ones are Yuokava.

804
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Yokava has another issue in North Carolina, where there are

805
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,039
almost no security measures. You can vote by email, you

806
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:30,639
can vote by facts. You know, there's there's votes coming

807
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:33,679
in from you know, Yahoo dot com email accounts that

808
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:39,159
are apparently Yokava as we speak with that many out

809
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:42,840
two hundred thousand outstanding votes. Again, the margin was seventy

810
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five thousand last time around. You know, it's gonna be

811
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it's good, it's gonna be tough to know how many

812
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of those are going to come into Yokaba. They can

813
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get certified ten days after election day, so unless it's

814
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a big, a big.

815
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Speaker 7: You know, victory one way or the other. In North

816
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,719
carol there's.

817
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Speaker 8: The possibility that, oh they a bunch of ten thousand

818
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:08,039
KAVA votes come in from all across the world and

819
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start flipping some seats at the state, local, and federal levels.

820
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Speaker 1: Very worrisome. That's something that the Federalist has been tracking

821
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and I was remiss and not bring it up, and

822
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thank thank you for doing so, b Reckon, because that's

823
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critical in North Carolina, it's critical in Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania,

824
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wherever you go. Uokava is an issue at some level.

825
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Mazie editors are the last to go to bed on

826
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election night. How do you how do you see election

827
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night going?

828
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Speaker 2: You know, late.

829
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Speaker 3: Late night for sure. But we have a great team

830
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to be keeping track of all the details. It'll be

831
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a lot of cross checking, you know, what what are

832
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:59,880
what are outlets recording? What what are sources saying is happening?

833
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,639
So lots of information coming from different directions. But we've

834
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:08,239
set ourselves up super well. We know what to be

835
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:13,800
looking for. And yeah, it may not be we don't

836
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,800
know whether it'll be smooth or Yeah, it's hard to

837
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,679
know what to expect at this point. But we have

838
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,840
definitely set ourselves up well to be able to tackle

839
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whatever comes our way.

840
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Speaker 1: I told my old Nashville radio pal on a segment

841
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this morning, I said, well, if you're covering election night,

842
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,840
make sure you bring a toothbrush and your jammy's. This

843
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:43,239
could go late. Well, you have assembled a tremendous team.

844
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,119
And I'm not saying that simply because I'm on it

845
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,480
rather immodest as I put it this way, but you

846
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:54,480
get the last word. What are you expecting when when

847
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,239
the rubber hits the road election day?

848
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:00,199
Speaker 4: Oh well, so even before the results come in, I'm

849
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:07,440
expecting Democrats and the media, which are not that different

850
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,159
at this point, to pull out every trick in the

851
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:16,480
book to muddle whatever's going on. So you know, whether

852
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:21,880
that's taking something that maybe is a true and concerning

853
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,519
report about something going on at a polling site and.

854
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,079
Speaker 2: Fact you know, slapping it with a fact check.

855
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 4: You know, nothing to see here, or whether that's using

856
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:38,440
exit polls which are notoriously unreliable to uh depress Republican turnout,

857
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:41,719
or you know, get those last couple of Harris voters

858
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,920
to the polls, or whatever it may be. Whether it's

859
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,239
you know, playing tricks with with when they call which

860
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,360
states and for whom. And I think we've seen, as

861
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:55,679
Beth alluded to, so much of an information op to

862
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:02,119
prepare people not to get results on election night, which,

863
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,760
as you know, everybody who's ever followed an election in

864
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,960
America previous to twenty twenty knows that is the norm.

865
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,679
And so I think the media is not done playing games.

866
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,400
They've played games every day this week. They've been playing

867
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,920
games with this election ever since. They you know, covered

868
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,079
for Biden, remember him, Like remember when he was running

869
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,960
for president, covered for him and then.

870
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,079
Speaker 1: Decided we didn't see him, that's for sure, in twenty twenty.

871
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, yeah, So I mean they covered for him

872
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,880
in twenty twenty, and then they continued to cover for

873
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,960
him as he supposedly ran the country and supposedly was

874
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:42,679
running for president in twenty twenty four.

875
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: And then when.

876
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 4: Biden got ousted from the race, the media suddenly propped

877
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:52,960
up this this brat campaign for Kamala Harris, who up

878
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:55,760
until you know, five minutes before that, they had been

879
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,400
describing as unpopular and you know, recognizing the fact that

880
00:53:59,400 --> 00:53:59,960
nobody liked her.

881
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: So the media's.

882
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 4: Been playing tricks up until now. They're not going to

883
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,880
stop just because we have like thirty hours to go,

884
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,400
So I expect plenty more of that from them between

885
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:12,800
now and then.

886
00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: Final question for you, and it is do you believe

887
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,360
Donald Trump will be the next Grover Cleveland, the twenty

888
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:27,519
first century Grover Cleveland? And if he should be, if

889
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:32,920
he should win this election, when when are you calling

890
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:40,519
the left the Democrats to come out with complaints that

891
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:44,840
the election was rigged, the election was stolen.

892
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,119
Speaker 4: Election denial is going to be cool again.

893
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,559
Speaker 1: Matt, Yes, you know, but hey, election denial was cool

894
00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:55,519
a long time ago in this rig system. But do

895
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:57,719
you believe Trump can pull this off? And if he does,

896
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,679
what happens?

897
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:01,079
Speaker 4: I mean, he's in a better position than he has

898
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,639
been in either of the past two elections.

899
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton was still up in the polls.

900
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:08,079
Speaker 4: I mean, the media was telling everybody that Trump had

901
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:11,480
no chance in twenty sixteen, and then obviously he pulled

902
00:55:11,519 --> 00:55:15,400
off an upset there. Even in twenty twenty he lost

903
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,719
by tens of thousands of votes across the three swing states.

904
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,239
Was the difference between him losing and winning that election?

905
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,079
It was much much closer. I think the polls had

906
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:30,400
Biden ahead like eight points at this point in the

907
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,199
race in twenty twenty, so he's historically overperformed.

908
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:35,679
Speaker 2: Where he's at right.

909
00:55:35,519 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 4: Now, it's a dead heat, which is a better position

910
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,679
than he's ever been in before. I think he has

911
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:45,159
the majority of the issues in this race, the border,

912
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,800
the economy, inflation in his favor. Obviously, he's got the

913
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,960
entire media industrial complex against.

914
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: Him, but I think he's.

915
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: Got as good of a shot as he ever had before.

916
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: So for him, like that good news.

917
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:06,039
Speaker 1: Well, they have attacked him. They have impeached him, they

918
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:10,280
have indicted him, they have arrested him, they've investigated him,

919
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,679
they've put him before a mug shot camera. They tried

920
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,559
to kick him off of ballots. They tried to shoot him.

921
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:24,719
They did shoot him. They tried to kill him. Donald

922
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,559
Trump is still here. We'll see what happens at the

923
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:31,719
end of the day, whenever that day ends on election day.

924
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,320
Until then, I want to thank our extraordinary panelist here.

925
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,079
Thank you Saul so much for being here. El Pernell

926
00:56:39,519 --> 00:56:43,360
is the editor of this selections team you've been hearing

927
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:49,400
from this hour, and of course the others involved as well.

928
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,360
Beth Umbrelia who is an exceptional reporter covering Pennsylvania. Another

929
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,920
exceptional reporter is Reckon Thieves covering Pennsylvania and the North

930
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,840
Carolina Virginia. All of these folks, of course, cover everything

931
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,719
across the country. Brianna Lyman does excellent work covering Georgia

932
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,880
and elsewhere. I should mention our great reporters covering Arizona, Nevada,

933
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,960
that Sean Fleetwood and Logan Washburn covering critical battleground state Michigan.

934
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:22,679
And Mazie Jefferson tremendous editor. She has seen it all

935
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:28,000
certainly over these last several months. Again, thanks to all

936
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:33,039
of the great work of the Federalist Election team, you

937
00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:36,599
have been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour.

938
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,039
I'm Matt Kittle, senior correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be

939
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:44,079
back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom

940
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:59,800
and anxious for the Fray

