1 00:00:20,199 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't want. 2 00:00:21,399 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: I don't wanna. 3 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: I don't wanna, I. 4 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Don't wanna call. 5 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 4: I don't want. 6 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:48,799 Speaker 3: With the butchers like the others too. I don't need 7 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:58,200 to you opinion on my life. I can't seem to 8 00:00:58,359 --> 00:01:03,759 find motive. They shun to me this room. 9 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: NOI just shot from the God send me free from 10 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:35,079 this inside. I just needing in some foods. It's rain. 11 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:56,079 Speaker 2: Free for the sun shot. 12 00:01:58,879 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: Wal there is a net. 13 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:30,319 Speaker 5: From in the moll round to a shape. 14 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:44,479 Speaker 4: I can't understand the words with the world. 15 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 6: Characterstic said said, I can't see the. 16 00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: Chick to. 17 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 5: Chosa create from what you say. Sis is so. 18 00:03:33,879 --> 00:05:13,519 Speaker 4: So so Chise just chose to sit back the show. 19 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,199 Jos John. 20 00:05:36,000 --> 00:06:19,759 Speaker 7: Wo, I just wanted to let that fade out. 21 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,399 Speaker 1: That's so cool. 22 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,519 Speaker 8: That is it's pretty intense. That's short term solution. The 23 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,279 band is the Gray Curtain, and we've got Dennis and Troy. 24 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:28,839 We're gonna speak with them in just a moment. Welcome everybody, 25 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,959 if you are listening live on Saturday, we have entered 26 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,120 our number two New Marrow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed, 27 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,720 and we are live from the studios of WMNH ninety 28 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:41,000 five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Today 29 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:44,959 is Saturday October four, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here, 30 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,800 of course at the news table, present and accounted for, 31 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,480 and let's talk with these guys. Dennis, you've been on 32 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,240 the show before, of course, you've been on a couple 33 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,040 of times now, right. 34 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 9: I've been on the show with you guys twice, one 35 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,759 in person, one over the phone. 36 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 8: Oh that's right, that's right, yes, And Troy, this is 37 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:04,399 your first time, you're right. 38 00:07:04,399 --> 00:07:06,639 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me. It's great to be here. 39 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:08,160 This is actually the first time on the radio. 40 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 7: It's oh no kidding, yeah, yeah, really cool to you know, 41 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,199 be here. 42 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:13,879 Speaker 11: And oh well a lot of film experience. Thank you. 43 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 7: What do you do in the band? 44 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 11: I play guitar? 45 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,079 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, excellent, excellent. So the song we just heard, 46 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,199 short term Solution, is that new? Is that a new 47 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:21,920 single or no? 48 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 9: No? Short term is part of the first album, Shadow 49 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:31,959 of a Man. Okay, came out around fourteen fifteen sixteen, 50 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:38,199 and yeah, it's it's one of the older tracks. 51 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, Now what is the meaning of that song? 52 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:42,319 Because obviously, I mean there must be a reason that 53 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,120 you chose that for today. That was one of the 54 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,240 one of the ones you sent us. 55 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:50,519 Speaker 1: Well, we talked a bit off air about this, but. 56 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 9: During twenty twelve, I was going at twenty eleven twenty twelve, 57 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:04,560 I was going through like award spiral where I was 58 00:08:04,839 --> 00:08:10,120 kind of alienating everybody around me and going through a 59 00:08:10,279 --> 00:08:18,360 very dark period of time my life and basically drinking 60 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:22,480 myself into an early grave. The entire album Shadow of 61 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:28,240 a Man is based on that time, where I would 62 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:33,600 get up in the morning, drunk, start drinking, go over 63 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,759 to the bar, spend most of my money at one 64 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,240 bar until they told me to leave, go to the 65 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,000 next bar in my hometown, drink until they told me 66 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,679 to leave, go home, pass out, wake up, do it 67 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,399 all over again. 68 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:47,799 Speaker 2: And I. 69 00:08:51,039 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 9: Remember a quote at a show at a benefit that 70 00:08:55,759 --> 00:09:01,679 we were playing that suicide is a uh was a 71 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:07,720 permanent solution to a short term problem. And uh, that's 72 00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:14,759 kind of what kind of jolted that song into into existence, 73 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,879 because drinking was always my short term solution to getting 74 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,240 through the day, because the moment I would sober up, 75 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,240 I'd have to face reality and I didn't want. 76 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 7: To do that right But. 77 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:35,039 Speaker 9: Luckily this album this project as has helped me in 78 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:37,639 a lot of ways get through a lot of my demons. 79 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:41,480 I still suffer a lot of days, and unfortunately people 80 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:46,320 around me thankfully have a lot of tolerance for that. 81 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:47,159 Speaker 7: Yeah. 82 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 9: I I guess that's the word. I'm tolerated by h 83 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,000 by a lot of people in my life. 84 00:09:55,399 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 8: I was gonna say, you're obviously, you know, valued and loved, 85 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,120 you know, I mean, you know, it's it's it's not 86 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,919 it's not tolerating you. It's you know, obviously these people 87 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:04,919 care for you a great deal. 88 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 10: And it's it's definitely like that album in particular, it's 89 00:10:08,799 --> 00:10:11,399 like it gives a voice to, like, you know, all 90 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,480 these problems that a lot of people have in their lives, 91 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:16,840 and it's that that the throes of addiction and and 92 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,960 just getting through it like that. 93 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely do Do people come up to 94 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:26,879 you at shows or contact you online who've who've listened 95 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:29,960 to this music and and kind of reach out and say, hey, 96 00:10:30,039 --> 00:10:31,000 I I can relate. 97 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 7: To this, or this has helped me in some. 98 00:10:32,279 --> 00:10:33,759 Speaker 1: Way or yeah, yeah. 99 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:39,399 Speaker 9: I when it first came out, it not so much. 100 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,320 I don't know what happened. Maybe the uh, maybe the 101 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,799 environment has changed over the last few years, where like 102 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:53,080 talking about mental health has become okay. 103 00:10:53,399 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think it's much less stigmatized. 104 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 10: A yeah, definitely, I feel like has had and even 105 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,919 more so like post like pandemic, that's like everybody's coming 106 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:06,440 out of their houses and it's like, you know what's 107 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,919 going on with you and you just kind of spill 108 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,399 your whole life out to you to your your friends 109 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:11,360 that you haven't seen in a while. 110 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,039 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I remember. I won't say names obviously, but 111 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,559 there was a young woman. We played out in uh In, 112 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:22,919 Maine at a place called Charlie's Hill. 113 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 8: That venue, the name of that venue comes up a 114 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,559 lot on the show. Apparently it's pretty cool. Oh really, 115 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:30,440 it's great. We played there once. We can't wait to 116 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,120 go back. They treat local bands like their nationals over there. Yeah, 117 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:40,159 and I remember this one woman came up to me. 118 00:11:41,159 --> 00:11:46,080 Couldn't have been twenty one yet. And when I'm on stage, 119 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,399 I like to let people in the crowd, whether they 120 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,159 whether they need it or not. 121 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,639 Speaker 1: I just want them to know that. 122 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 9: If they feel isolated, if they feel alone, you know, 123 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,799 come to me, you know, because I know what that feeling. 124 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Feels like I know what it feels like to isolate yourself, 125 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,200 whether it's on purpose or because you know, you just 126 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:12,600 don't have anyone to talk to. And I've I had 127 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:18,120 the chance to talk to her, and she told me 128 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,919 how she was having suicidal ideations and she couldn't escape 129 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,039 it no matter how hard she tried. And we talked 130 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:31,480 for a good three hours. And when I just I 131 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:35,320 just remember her face when she approached me, mascara coming 132 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:41,919 down her face. And after she walked away, I noticed 133 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,080 there's were you still there, Troy? 134 00:12:44,279 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 11: I might have left you. 135 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,879 Speaker 9: There was a line of like probably five six nine 136 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,480 people wanting to like talk. Three o'clock in the morning, 137 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,039 I'm still out in Maine talking to people. Friend John 138 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:07,279 who came with me, John Foley to John, Yeah, he 139 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:10,399 came with me, and I think it was like eight 140 00:13:10,399 --> 00:13:14,559 o'clock in the morning. We finally got back to the 141 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:21,639 Wister area where we're from, and I, I don't know what, 142 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,840 I don't know, I don't know how to explain it. 143 00:13:23,919 --> 00:13:28,960 But I felt so much lighter, you know, And I 144 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,840 felt like I had actually done some good, not just 145 00:13:34,039 --> 00:13:38,039 for myself, not just to spread message of self awareness 146 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:43,559 and and making it okay to talk about these things. 147 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,559 But I have always in my heart, I just I 148 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:52,159 always want to help people. I always want to let 149 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,759 people know that it's okay to not be okay. As 150 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,840 cliche as that's saying has become, it's it's true. And 151 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,679 it's the reason why it's become cliche is because you 152 00:14:04,759 --> 00:14:08,519 know it's important to have that in your head. And 153 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:12,559 that's really where our music stems from. I talked to 154 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:14,840 you about this the last time I was here. All 155 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:19,240 of our music is based around a town called the 156 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:24,240 Town of Apathy, and I created that after reading or 157 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,039 it's not even reading, listening to a quote from Henry 158 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,080 Miller said the best way to get over a woman 159 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:33,840 is to turn her into literature. So I created this 160 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,840 town with all of my hurts, habits, hang ups, all 161 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:40,679 of my bullies, every bad memory I've ever had, and 162 00:14:40,879 --> 00:14:43,679 created characters and put them in a town that they 163 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:50,200 can't escape. The first album, it's a fictional character by 164 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,960 the name of Nathan Knopf loses the love of his 165 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,639 life and the album takes place the last day and 166 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,679 half of his life. Second album is about a different 167 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:04,360 character going through a different thing. Third album is going 168 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,200 to be about different characters going through a different thing, 169 00:15:07,759 --> 00:15:11,399 but they're all going to be based around how people 170 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:19,679 can relate to some form of mental illness. And like, 171 00:15:19,879 --> 00:15:23,080 more than anything, I want these songs, these albums, the 172 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,919 script that we're writing to go along with the graphic 173 00:15:28,039 --> 00:15:30,879 novel that I've been working on. I want everything that 174 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,039 we do to help people and let them know that 175 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:35,799 they're not alone. 176 00:15:36,039 --> 00:15:41,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's excellent. Yeah, we're starting to say some 177 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:42,200 of the truck. 178 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 10: Uh, well, I guess to piggyback off of that, like 179 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,840 with the the songwriting process in particular, uh, with with 180 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:56,360 like the script that he's writing. It's it's cool to 181 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,639 like have a feeling to attach to like the music 182 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,919 that we're writing rather than like here's this cool song. 183 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 11: That I wrote. 184 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, this whole story that we're trying to tell 185 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,320 with with you know, the script and the trying to 186 00:16:09,399 --> 00:16:13,600 fit the music into the it's very interesting. And uh, 187 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,320 especially also with the shows that like I feel that 188 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:22,360 like it's like after we play the show, it's like 189 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:25,000 that that weight has come off, and it's like, especially 190 00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:28,519 with these songs, it's it's almost like therapy. Really, It's like, 191 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,879 you know, it's you just kind of let it all out. 192 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 193 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,279 Speaker 9: Yeah, That's why we call our shows. That's why we 194 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,559 call our shows sermons rather than performances. That's why we 195 00:16:39,639 --> 00:16:43,039 call our fan based the congregation rather than an army, 196 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:46,399 or you know something like that. It's like, you know, 197 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,840 you come to our shows to feel something, you know, 198 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:54,639 and that's not a knock on any other band that 199 00:16:54,879 --> 00:16:58,720 we play with. We love this scene. I can go 200 00:16:58,919 --> 00:17:02,200 back and forth with you all day. It's like, you know, 201 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,119 with some of the bands that we have played with 202 00:17:05,279 --> 00:17:08,400 that deserve a lot more recognition than what they're getting. 203 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,799 But you know, time after time we play a show 204 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:18,519 and we're usually middle or the beginning of the lineup, 205 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:21,720 and someone will always approach us and say, you guys 206 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:24,160 are a breath of fresh air. No one's doing what 207 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:26,440 you're doing. And I think that's kind of sad because 208 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,839 there are bands that are doing what we're doing. You know, 209 00:17:29,279 --> 00:17:33,519 they're just not getting the opportunities that we're getting. And 210 00:17:34,279 --> 00:17:37,720 don't get me wrong, I appreciate every opportunity, of course, 211 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,559 you know, but you know, like just off the cuff, 212 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,039 the Big Son, we were talking about those guys on 213 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,440 the way here, you know, a great group of kids. 214 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:49,279 You know, they sound like Tool before they got rich, 215 00:17:50,079 --> 00:17:52,880 you know, they you know, before they lost the hunger, 216 00:17:53,599 --> 00:17:56,440 you know, Scarecrow Hill. Yeah, I love them. We had 217 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,440 them on yeah, and I listened to that interview. Was 218 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,279 the first time I had ever been name dropped. 219 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's cool. 220 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,519 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, but uh, you know Tyler lead singer 221 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:09,920 Scarecrow is now our drummer, you know he is. 222 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,519 Speaker 10: Yeah, he loved us a bunch, Like we we kind 223 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:15,759 of built this friendship with him and he's like, I 224 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,599 love you guys, So that's awesome. 225 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 7: Yeah. 226 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 10: I was kind of surprised to find out when he 227 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,720 you know, played drums and like he like we were 228 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,400 having issues finding drummers, and he's like, I mean I'm down. 229 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 11: To fill in with you guys. 230 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,839 Speaker 10: And then we just kind of like begged him to 231 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,839 be like yeah, yeah. 232 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, practically on our knees, like please Tyler, Oh wow yeah, 233 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,279 oh damn, that's cool. 234 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:37,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 235 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 9: Uh but yeah, we've had such a connection with those 236 00:18:40,759 --> 00:18:45,359 guys since uh uh summer last year when we played 237 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,720 uh Electric CA's and I think we played like twelve 238 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:54,720 or thirteen shows with them since uh, I've been on 239 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,119 stage with them my handful of times, just doing a 240 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,359 couple of tracks here and there. 241 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 242 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:04,079 Speaker 9: Yeah, I can't say enough about how much I love 243 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:10,079 Scarecrow Hill. Yeah, Fear of the Masses, Love those guys, Anaria. 244 00:19:10,599 --> 00:19:14,359 You know what a voice Jessica has, you know, it's 245 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,279 just you know, my point being is this scene is 246 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:23,079 so it's filled with so much talent. 247 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,759 Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, absolutely. 248 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,079 Speaker 11: Yeah. 249 00:19:25,279 --> 00:19:28,079 Speaker 9: So when when we get the opportunities that we get, 250 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,440 we like to share as much as we possibly can. 251 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,160 But like we're hungry, we want to we want to 252 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,359 venture out and you know, play around this country, around 253 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,079 this world, you know, just spread a message that it's 254 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:47,799 okay to not be okay, right. But I can't you know, 255 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,440 I can't thank Troy enough to you know, with being 256 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,440 in this band. Everybody that has been part of the 257 00:19:54,480 --> 00:20:00,119 Gray Curtain over the last stuff god since twenty fourteen. 258 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 11: Oh wow, over ten years? 259 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, over ten years. You know, great group of musicians. 260 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,880 You know obviously parted ways for one reason or another. Sure, 261 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,599 but I can't say enough good things about everyone who 262 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:21,000 has taken part of this journey with me over the 263 00:20:21,079 --> 00:20:23,079 last eleven years. 264 00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:25,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, just now, did you how did you 265 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,480 guys come to work together? Oh? 266 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: You want to take this? 267 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:28,839 Speaker 10: Yeah? 268 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 7: So I. 269 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,279 Speaker 11: Oh my god? How far back do I go with this? 270 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 4: Uh? 271 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 11: Okay? 272 00:20:35,079 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 10: So a band that was in a long time ago, 273 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,119 Fatal Defiance. We had actually played at the Bungalow before 274 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,400 it closed out and happy that that's actually coming back. 275 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:49,200 But I'd played a couple of shows with our bass player, 276 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,119 Sean his band in Man Okay, So we kind of 277 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,480 got to know each other through that. And then a 278 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:57,920 few years later, like we started, you know, like hey, 279 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,920 do you want to try to get something together here 280 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,839 and work on some stuff. And then a few months 281 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,960 after that, he makes a post on Facebook like Hey, 282 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,400 any of my friends that play guitar are interested in 283 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:13,559 joining a band? So I was like hi me, and 284 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,119 he's like, yeah, check out Great Curtain. We were looking 285 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,440 for guitar players. I guess he was gonna play guitar 286 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:20,559 before but wanted to play bass. 287 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 288 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 10: So yeah, I checked it out and it's I like 289 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,559 fell in love with the music instantly. Yeah, It's like 290 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,720 that there was something very special about this band that 291 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,759 I just really wanted to be part of and really 292 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:32,079 happy to be part of it. 293 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:32,839 Speaker 11: Yeah, thank you. 294 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,319 Speaker 7: Dennis for that, Were you there from the beginning? That's 295 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,759 are you an original member or no? 296 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 9: No, no? 297 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 11: I joined God probably two years ago. 298 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:45,799 Speaker 7: Oh okay, so you're so you're relatively new then. 299 00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm the only original member left. 300 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,599 Speaker 7: Okay, okay, yeah? Is it is it challenge? 301 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:54,319 Speaker 8: Has it been challenging it all over the years with 302 00:21:54,519 --> 00:21:56,359 you know, like you said, you know, people come and 303 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,759 they go. I mean, has that been Has that been 304 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:01,079 a challenge for you? Or is it has been relatively 305 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,920 easy to find people who fit the project? 306 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,799 Speaker 9: Or honestly, in this area, it's very tough. And again, 307 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:15,160 I'm an eclectic music lover, so this is like, but 308 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:22,640 this scene is mostly metal and at least what I've seen, 309 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:27,359 and our friends in the metal community like to make 310 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,440 it very known to us we are not a metal band, right, 311 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:31,839 It's like that. 312 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: I know, I know we're not. 313 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 9: But so it's it's difficult when it's like, Okay, I 314 00:22:39,279 --> 00:22:43,880 need my eclectic musician friends to come and do this 315 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,039 project with me that already has two albums worth of music, 316 00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:52,960 and some some musicians, you know, they don't want to 317 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,119 do the whole theme album, right, the whole concept album thing. 318 00:22:58,319 --> 00:22:59,799 Speaker 1: So they bow out as well. 319 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 9: Some musicians like Tyler are in multiple bands, you know, 320 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:10,839 so it's a it's tough, and especially after someone leaves. 321 00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:16,920 Like so I started this band with Jim Miller and 322 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,880 when like when I got the opportunity to play at 323 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,279 Foxwood's it was our first show. He was the first 324 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:29,720 person I called. I became very close with him over 325 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:37,640 the past like the next almost decade, and it it really, 326 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,119 it really broke my heart when he, his brother, and 327 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:47,000 our drummer at the time, Sean Different Sean all left 328 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,000 because wait, they all left it once. 329 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:50,839 Speaker 1: They all left it once. Oh my god. Yeah. 330 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:55,799 Speaker 9: So it took me a while, not just to find people, 331 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:01,839 but you know, I I basically sat around writing, doing 332 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:08,240 the comic, doing the stories, and really contemplating if I 333 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,759 was even going to continue with this. Yeah, and I'm 334 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:17,799 not gonna lie, you know, certain mental illnesses started creeping 335 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,960 in and I was having a pretty difficult time at 336 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:30,599 the time because it wasn't exactly one of those kind 337 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,480 of separations where it was mutual. Oh okay, I would 338 00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:40,599 have gladly gone another ten twenty years with those guys. Yeah, yeah, 339 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:50,920 but yeah, I just decided that if I couldn't do 340 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,680 the Gray Curtain. I wasn't going to do anything at all, 341 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,720 because for me, it's a lot more than just playing music. 342 00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,799 It's the message. It's trying, like like I mentioned before, 343 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:06,599 trying to help people. And I luckily found well, it 344 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,359 didn't fine. I was handed in so many words, Joe 345 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:17,720 Saferano for a drummer. Joe plays for the Nagans, Ragged 346 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,799 the Stitches, he's I think he's in twenty two bands. 347 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,400 I'm over exaggerating, but not by. 348 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: Much, not by much. No great guy. 349 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,759 Speaker 9: And through Joe, I was able to get a hold 350 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:38,480 of Sean, who much like Troy, I knew from when 351 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:41,880 he was in Inman, when he was fronting Inman, and 352 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,319 I was able to get him on board. Through Sean, 353 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,000 I was able to get Troy. Joe left because as 354 00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:51,200 I mentioned, he's in one hundred and twenty seven band. 355 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,640 And so we we struggled for a little while getting 356 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,880 a permanent drummer, but Tyler kept filling in and finally Tyler, 357 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,599 you know, gave into our begging and now we have Tyler. Yeah, 358 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,880 we are currently searching for a synth keyboard player. Okay, 359 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,480 and uh, I don't I'm I'm open to all instruments 360 00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:20,839 to play in this band. Yeah, but to to rope 361 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,400 back into your original question, it gets difficult, It gets 362 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,880 it gets trying, it gets uh mortifying. It sometimes where 363 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,480 you're you're just messaging people that you know over and 364 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:35,400 over again. It's like, hey, you know, what do you think? 365 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:36,079 Speaker 1: What do you think? 366 00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 9: And they're like, I don't know, man, you know, music's 367 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,799 not really my thing. I don't know, man. You know, 368 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,400 I got this other band that I'm working for. I 369 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,880 don't know, man, you know, I'm you know, I kind 370 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,839 of just look at it like like a hobby. That's 371 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,440 the worst thing. 372 00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,559 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, that response, that's the funny. 373 00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:58,319 Speaker 10: There was the one guy that was like, you know, 374 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,960 he was all on board, all about it, and then 375 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,240 like what was it, like a day or two before 376 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:05,039 we bring him in. It's like he actually listened to 377 00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:07,200 the songs and he's like, oh, I had actually not 378 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:08,000 that into the music. 379 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 4: Wow. 380 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 9: He said he was a big fan and everything I 381 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,319 was come on down. And then like two days before 382 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,519 his try out, he's like, oh, actually, uh after listening 383 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:23,119 to the music, it's a little too sad for me. 384 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:23,599 Speaker 4: Wow. 385 00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's the point. 386 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 4: Oh wow. 387 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, So it gets difficult because we are we are 388 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:37,599 kind of like right in the middle there where where 389 00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:42,279 this group's cup of tea by like a mile, and 390 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,559 then we're not this group's cup of tea by by 391 00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:50,039 a mile. Right, So it gets it gets difficult, very 392 00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:51,839 very difficult sometimes. 393 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 8: Especially with drummers, right, because that's that's been a running 394 00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:56,400 theme on the show over the years, like every drummers 395 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,200 in multiple bands because there's so few drummers. 396 00:27:58,839 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: So few, so few. 397 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I I I have nothing but love for 398 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,680 the bands that have a drummer that only drums for them. 399 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,440 I wish I had their magic. Just make a drummer 400 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,400 up here like that, like like Scarecrow's drummer, Brendan. 401 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: I don't. 402 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:24,279 Speaker 9: I cannot stress enough how amazing Brendan is. It's like 403 00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:27,279 before Tyler said that he would play with us, I 404 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:34,079 was just like what I And it's the same thing 405 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,559 with the drummer for the Big son Nicks. Just unreal, 406 00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:42,799 unreal talent. So like there have been a couple of 407 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,759 times where I've been like, hey, let me let me 408 00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:48,440 talk to you. You know, serious are you with this band? 409 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,319 But I wouldn't have actually done that right, right, But uh, 410 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,480 you know, I have like approached a couple of drummers 411 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,440 just to be like, hey, do you have the time 412 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:05,119 to maybe put another project in, But the answers usually 413 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:09,960 nose these like the drummers that I mentioned, Brennan and Nick, 414 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:13,440 like they are so passionate about this one project that 415 00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:17,440 they're in, and rightfully so. Scarecrow's amazing, big Son's amazing. Yeah, 416 00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:22,279 but yeah, they would never be like, yeah, I gotta 417 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:25,119 split my time between you guys who are doing like 418 00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:29,759 all of this stuff has nothing to do with music, right, 419 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:35,079 you know, It's like we were a multimedia type of 420 00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:38,160 project where you know a lot of bands are just 421 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:42,839 strictly about the music, strictly about enforcing what their message is. 422 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:47,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like, I completely. 423 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 9: Understand their their point of view where it's like you 424 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,759 don't want to overload yourself. But like you said, the 425 00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:58,079 scene is just deprived of it's a it's a desert 426 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:01,720 trying to find a drummer that isn't in twelve bands. 427 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: Shout up to Joe. 428 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,599 Speaker 7: If you're just joining us, we're talking. 429 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 8: With We have Dennis and Troy here from the band 430 00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:12,920 The Gray Curtain, and uh, so have you guys not 431 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:15,960 been so with the current situation. So you're looking for 432 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,480 for a synth player. So are you guys not playing 433 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,880 shows currently or are you oh, no shows? So what 434 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,039 are you just doing it without the keyboard? 435 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,359 Speaker 7: Yeah? 436 00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, we we have a show at Ralph's Rock Diner 437 00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:32,680 and Worcester on the tenth we have nice We have 438 00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:34,960 a show at Terminus on the eleventh. 439 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 7: Oh excellent with all of our friends. 440 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,119 Speaker 9: That show a Terminus on the eleventh is just family, 441 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,960 It's Scarecrow Hill, it's Devil inside Us, it's Fear of 442 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,160 the Masses and it's us. 443 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 444 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: That show is just going to be fun. Yeah. 445 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 9: And then the twenty fifth we're playing at the Spectacular 446 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:01,599 with Scarecrow Bands and Double Side, Joe Solaperano a gay. 447 00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:03,039 I didn't know they run though, Oh the Nigans and 448 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,400 Rag the Stitches. Joe's playing double duty on that shus. 449 00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:07,039 Speaker 7: Oh excellent, excellent. 450 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, uh but yeah we're uh, we're still playing because 451 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,200 you know, you got to get the message out there. 452 00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:17,160 You gotta keep uh keep you fresh in people's minds. Yeah, 453 00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:21,480 or else you got forgotten. I mean bottom line, well I. 454 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,839 Speaker 7: Would imagine too, I mean it must be. 455 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,319 Speaker 8: It must be kind of interesting, right if you're if 456 00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:28,680 you're playing, you know, because you've had to play with 457 00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:32,720 these different configurations over the years. So if you have 458 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,920 if you have something that you know, maybe you want 459 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,839 a synth player, but you don't have a synth player, 460 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:37,480 so you. 461 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 7: Got to do without. 462 00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 8: But that must be kind of that must be kind 463 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,039 of fun thoughing away, right, because isn't it doesn't it 464 00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:44,680 make it a kind of more of a challenge, It's like, 465 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:47,039 and it kind of it makes it gives the songs 466 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,359 a little bit of a different different flavor, a different texture. 467 00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:50,519 Speaker 11: Right, definitely. 468 00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's like the the you know, having the limitations 469 00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:56,000 kind of opens up the creativity kind of like you 470 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,599 can find like a cool effect on your pedal, Yeah, 471 00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,839 to kind of fill in that space. 472 00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:03,119 Speaker 8: And yeah, yeah, I was in a band years ago, 473 00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:04,799 long time ago. I was in a band called First 474 00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:08,160 Shove and First Shove, you know, hardcore metal. We'd always 475 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,960 been a five piece and because we had two guitar 476 00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:14,519 players and we had a guitar player leave and just 477 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:17,920 Rich Burke who was kind of he was the only 478 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,480 original member of the band at that point, so he 479 00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:21,039 was kind of the de facto leader. So we all 480 00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:22,319 kind of looked at him and he said, you know what, 481 00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:24,480 I don't think we need to replace Dave. Let's just 482 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:26,799 be a four piece. So we just tried it and 483 00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:29,079 first Shove had never been a four piece, and it 484 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,319 was kind of fun. Actually, yeah, you know, I mean 485 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:32,799 it kind of changed the songs a little bit because 486 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,519 he didn't have the two guitars, right, Yeah, but this 487 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,880 sounded a little stripped down. 488 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,119 Speaker 7: I don't know, we all kind of liked it. We 489 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,799 played it show and it was like, oh, this is okay, 490 00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:41,000 we can do it this way for a while. 491 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,799 Speaker 10: Yeah, there's particularly a few songs, especially like we kind 492 00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:46,440 of take the keyboard out of it. It definitely, like 493 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:48,039 you said, strips it down and kind of gives it 494 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,000 more of like a raw kind of feeling, and it 495 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,799 brings it to a whole other place. 496 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:53,279 Speaker 7: Yeah. 497 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, there are a few songs actually that Troy and 498 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:01,200 Sean have kind of modified so that part of what 499 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,440 the synth player would be playing is part of what 500 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,359 they're doing. 501 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 7: There you go. 502 00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 9: But it's, uh, it's definitely a lot of fun now 503 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,160 that it's like, you know, they're learning the old material, 504 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,960 but we're also moving towards writing new material, you know, 505 00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:23,000 recording new material. It's uh, it's honestly, I I can't. 506 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,599 I know, I'm gonna sound redundant here. I cannot thank 507 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,119 the people that are involved in keeping this thing going enough, 508 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,759 like even right down to like Eleanor from Terminus, you 509 00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:37,440 know who hooked us up with you guys a year ago. 510 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:41,680 You know, like people that just it's like, you know, 511 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:45,519 these guys need or you know, dare I say, deserve 512 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:46,319 an opportunity. 513 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, check these guys out. 514 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 9: I cannot stress enough, Like how thankful I am for him, 515 00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:57,680 for Sean, for everybody, everybody down the tone pole, John 516 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,240 fully for giving us a place to play. Yeah, my 517 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,960 script writing partner, April, you know, right down to my kid, yeah, 518 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:10,599 you know, my kid killing you know, all these people 519 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,719 just keeping me going, keeping me afloat, keeping me above 520 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:14,360 ground as it. 521 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 7: Were there you go. 522 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,079 Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, so your script writing. So tell us 523 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,440 more about that. Is that the graphic novel you're talking 524 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,840 about or. 525 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,119 Speaker 1: No, they're two separate things. 526 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 9: The graphic novel is going to be a comic book 527 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:31,239 based on the the Town of Apathy, which is the 528 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,639 storyline that the albums are based on. But the script 529 00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:42,719 is basically almost like an episodic thing where I mean 530 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,880 pipe dreams. You know, it becomes a show all about 531 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,880 the town of Apathy, and you know, will include not 532 00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:53,880 just our music, but we want to include like other 533 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,719 musicians from this area, like some of the bands that 534 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,239 we mentioned. 535 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,079 Speaker 12: Uh. 536 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:05,039 Speaker 9: But yeah, the script is basically, if if my wildest 537 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,000 dreams come true, it'll be a TV show. 538 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:14,039 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, excellent, outstanding. Why don't we let's play a 539 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,400 let's play a track. I wanted to sneak this in. 540 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,079 This is my okay, so selfishly, this is my personal 541 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:22,679 favorite of all the great and I've listened to everything. 542 00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:25,480 I've listened everything that's available online. This is my personal favorite. 543 00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:27,920 Burn that bridge. What can you what can you tell 544 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,400 us about this? 545 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 7: Well? 546 00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: Actually, uh, this song was written by. 547 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:40,559 Speaker 9: The Miller Brothers and Sean Donnellan long before they met me. 548 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,559 Speaker 7: I wrote the lyrics. 549 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,679 Speaker 1: I wrote the lyrics, yeah, but the. 550 00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,119 Speaker 9: They basically had like the whole foundation and when they 551 00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:52,599 told me what the title was, I was like, well, 552 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,079 this is going to be perfect for the Florist yeah album. Yeah, 553 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,679 and uh, you know, we just took it from there. 554 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 8: All right, all right, let's give this a spin. This 555 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,239 is this is such a great song. So it's called 556 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,360 burn that Bridge. It's from the album The Florist and 557 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,920 this is the Gray Curtains. 558 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 2: I condone. 559 00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 3: Stop me romy blinking about it pregnantly, I could never please. 560 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 4: It's the ways what you do in the end, Oh 561 00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:47,159 my red, I wanna read. 562 00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:02,519 Speaker 5: What makes. 563 00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:16,159 Speaker 4: The rock? 564 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 5: The trap slaves a feeling a lot, God sat up 565 00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:26,039 a bolder, the. 566 00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:35,119 Speaker 4: Want Way, the raying from We Got Me. 567 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 5: Say, I Got Ramy for fifty I. 568 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,519 Speaker 4: Don't want to. 569 00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 7: Love it? 570 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 8: That has Burned that Bridge. The band is the Gray Curtain, 571 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,440 and we have Dennis and Troy here with us live 572 00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:58,039 in studio, and uh yeah, that's that's my favorite Gray 573 00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,360 Curtain track. So what's but we should talk out? So 574 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,039 I don't know how much you want to say about 575 00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:05,840 the future, what the next project is as far as music, 576 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,000 but you want to you want to talk about that 577 00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:09,400 well as it goes. 578 00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 10: Right now, we got two songs that we're going to 579 00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:17,480 be tracking out for as singles, and we do we 580 00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:17,840 want to. 581 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,599 Speaker 11: I think we've talked about it before. 582 00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:21,599 Speaker 10: If we just kind of want to do it kind 583 00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:23,760 of a double album kind of thing. We've got seven 584 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,679 songs for each one so far, and we kind of 585 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,639 want to push a few more on each one, but 586 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,239 it's we we we got some ambitious things coming. 587 00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, and again, what I absolutely love is anyone that's 588 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,679 in this band always seems to have like this jolt 589 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,320 of energy to you know, do these stories with me. 590 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:50,400 This next story is going to be about two assassins, essentially, 591 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,840 and each story kind of interweaves as they're given. 592 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:55,559 Speaker 12: Uh. 593 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 9: The main antagonist of the town of Apathy is this 594 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:05,960 demi god vengeful spirit from purgatory named shol and he's 595 00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:09,840 very bored in this town because he's all powerful and 596 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,079 everybody else is weak underneath him. So he starts playing 597 00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:17,159 these little games with his pets, and he hands one 598 00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:20,719 ten a name of excuse me, a list of ten names, 599 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,599 and he gave another a list of ten names and says, 600 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,000 the first to kill every person on your list of 601 00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:35,039 ten gets to leave this town. No strings attached the albums. 602 00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:41,000 I was hoping to do one for one killer and 603 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,239 one for the other killer. And there was like a 604 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,360 good couple of months there where I was afraid to 605 00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,440 say anything without it because I was like, I don't know, 606 00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:54,320 these guys are new. I'm gonna come at them with 607 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,280 this double album idea and they're gonna be like, yeah, 608 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,840 I'm all about it. Yeah, as soon as I told 609 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:05,119 it's like sweets is good, good, yeah, outstanding? Any kind 610 00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:08,840 of an ETA off air you said twenty thirty Yeah, yeah, 611 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,920 twenty thirty three, twenty forty Yeah, I should right around 612 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,719 the time I get an AARP card. But you know, 613 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,079 I'm I don't know, I'm I'm always pushing for the 614 00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:24,400 next thing, which is another reason why I use the 615 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,119 word tolerate. You know, people tolerate me for an extended 616 00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:31,880 amount of time. Uh, you know, because I'm always like, hey, 617 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:33,400 you know, we got to keep going, we got to 618 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,599 keep pushing forward. We got to you know, where are 619 00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:37,519 you at with this? You know, where are you at 620 00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:39,239 with that? I you know, I need to work on this. 621 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,519 So I'm gonna, you know, work on this until you know, 622 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,519 Saturday when we all get together and I'm going to 623 00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:46,280 have like all this ready for you guys, so be ready. 624 00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a handful. Yeah yeah, So that's what. 625 00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 9: It takes, so right, it is, but it gets it 626 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,119 gets tiring for people that are not on that level. 627 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: We just want to have fun with it. Yeah, yeah, 628 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,360 you know, and I get that. 629 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 9: So what I'm hoping for is a twenty early twenty 630 00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:13,079 twenty seven release, but you know, if if I can 631 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,360 twenty twenty six, but I think that's pushing it. 632 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,519 Speaker 10: Yeah, I definitely want to like have all the songs, 633 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:21,239 you know, written it together by the end of twenty 634 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,719 twenty six. 635 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,599 Speaker 11: But yeah, yeah, I think I think that's pretty achievable. 636 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, you know, have all 637 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,039 the songs ready by the end of twenty twenty six 638 00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:33,599 and then record and get everything out, hopefully have the 639 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,280 graphic novel to go along with it. I've I've said 640 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,639 that for the last two albums, and none of them 641 00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:42,559 have come out yet because it's just me. Yeah, yeah, 642 00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:44,000 you know, I would love to have a team of 643 00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:47,519 artists helping me out with this. Even with the script 644 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,199 I didn't have, like I had like a couple of 645 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,599 pages here, a couple of pages there. But my brain 646 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,199 is my worst enemy, as we've talked about, so a 647 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,280 lot of times I would get like a couple of 648 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,559 pages in and just shut down. All it took was 649 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,280 one person to be like, all right, tell me the 650 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,519 story campfire style go and we're nearing a thousand. 651 00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:13,599 Speaker 7: Pages, no kidding, Wow, okay, excellent. 652 00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,159 Speaker 9: I'm hoping to do that with the graphic novel and 653 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,440 you know, the next album, the next I mean, there's 654 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,039 twenty chapters to this Town of Town of Apathy storyline. 655 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:26,880 So I'm hoping, yeah, before I before the cancer takes 656 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,039 over and I can't do this anymore, I'm hoping to. 657 00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: Get it all out. 658 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,639 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, so, and I guess that's another reason 659 00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:35,280 why I push so hard, you know, for like the timeline. 660 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,519 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense, that makes sense. Well, 661 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:42,119 speaking of time, the time does go quickly. So before 662 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,679 we are going to play, we're gonna play one more song, 663 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,400 going to finish out the segment. But I want to 664 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,119 make sure remind us when the next show is or 665 00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:52,760 the next couple of shows. And also where is the 666 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,519 best place for people to go online to keep up 667 00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:56,239 with everything that the Great Curtain is doing? Yeah? 668 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, we got a Ralph's Rock Diner and Worcester on 669 00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:05,360 the and then Terminus on the eleventh, excellent, excellent, Codo 670 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,840 Lowell on the twenty fifth. 671 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 9: Okay yeah, and then yeah, selfish plug I have an 672 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,559 art show at Terminus on the seventeenth. Yeah, oh yeah, 673 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,360 Eleanor is allowing me to, for the first time ever, 674 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,639 put my art up for display. 675 00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 7: Oh congratulations. 676 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 9: And it's gonna be another reason why I love this 677 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,159 show at Terminus, you know, along with playing with Scarecrow 678 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,239 and even that show at Ralse, we're playing with mary 679 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,599 An Toilette and the Runs. Yeah I love them, Zombie 680 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,760 you know. But but yeah, we're going to be playing 681 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,719 with Scarecrow Hill and Fear of the Masses and and 682 00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:47,119 Excuse Me and Devil inside Us and my art is 683 00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:49,719 going to be down the hall hanging on the wall. 684 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 7: Fantastic. 685 00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 9: So yeah, the seventeenth will be a uh, just a 686 00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:54,960 strict art show. 687 00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:58,679 Speaker 11: And but you have the art hanging up all month long. 688 00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 7: Yeap. 689 00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:00,639 Speaker 1: The art will be hanging up all month long. 690 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 7: Outstanding. 691 00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:04,599 Speaker 9: Yeah, thirty one pieces. But the best way to uh 692 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,000 listen to us. We have a Spotify page, Apple Music, 693 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:14,400 band Camp. We're we're on all streaming platforms Okay except Amazon, 694 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,119 I noticed that we're not on it, but yeah, every 695 00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:18,840 other streaming platform we're on it. 696 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,079 Speaker 8: Yeah. 697 00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, we should tell people how to spelled gray because. 698 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,159 Speaker 9: Spell Yes, we talked about this at the Goat before 699 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:25,800 we came in here. 700 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's g r e y. It's the old English spelling. 701 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,679 Speaker 9: A lot of people will spell it with an A, 702 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,360 and you know, the search comes up with just a 703 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,800 bunch of physical gray curtains. 704 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Fred you guys anywhere. 705 00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:38,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 706 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 8: That's one of the few words in the English language 707 00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:42,119 you can spell it either way and it's considered correct 708 00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:43,000 in American English. 709 00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, very good, guys, Thank you so much. 710 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,159 Speaker 8: And we're going to close out the segment with So 711 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,360 we're gonna call this p Drunk outside of bars leaving voicemails. 712 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,280 That's not the act, not quite the actual title. 713 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: I can't apologize enough for that. 714 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, no, nothing to apologize for. But 715 00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:00,679 people can figure out what the p where it actually is. 716 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,760 But it's anything we should know about this before we hear. 717 00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:09,079 Speaker 9: It or basically, in real life, I lost the love 718 00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:11,880 of my life because I was a very difficult person, 719 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,480 uh suffering from addiction. And in the story and in 720 00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:20,960 real life, this is about a particular incident where I 721 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,440 was outside of one of my favorite bars, leaving voicemails 722 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,639 in a particularly inebriated state. 723 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,519 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, So we're going to close out with this 724 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,960 and if you are listening live on Saturday, coming up 725 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,280 in the next hour, we've got Ryan Redwood. He's going 726 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,800 to be joining us via WhatsApp from the UK talking 727 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,000 about his new single. And then in the final segment 728 00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:44,719 of the show, we have the Fods I think I 729 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,440 think they're from New York, but they're going to be 730 00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:48,880 joining us online as well. So we do have a 731 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,800 lot left to go, but we're going to close out 732 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,519 this hour with this p drunk outside of bars, leaving 733 00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:57,239 voicemails from the Gray Curtain and Dennison Troy thank you 734 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,159 again so much. 735 00:47:58,199 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 11: Thank you for having us. 736 00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 7: Thank you Jen Absolute. 737 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 12: It like. 738 00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 13: The moments are virtue and it's all gone now you sick, 739 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:34,920 good bye. 740 00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 12: The fall mines are hurt you. The moment that I 741 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:51,320 love my mom, You're. 742 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 4: Like said man, I'm a summer man. We clash one 743 00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:05,079 more together in this support. 744 00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 12: Just stand. 745 00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 4: He fails for every temper world, needle call, need the 746 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,480 bot on. 747 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:57,679 Speaker 12: The tried, the pond of you, all of my the 748 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,840 least chance, Redemptionhot which he's a bull, and one. 749 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:11,159 Speaker 4: Time will make. 750 00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:29,599 Speaker 13: A break all the spell mistakes, sound. 751 00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:25,639 Speaker 4: The sound. 752 00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 6: Weekly to. 753 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 4: This what's under Stay? Call me, do. 754 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,079 Speaker 12: Me tr. 755 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:12,679 Speaker 4: Neidhood on me down the call Oman, the track the 756 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,760 pod of ne owd. 757 00:51:15,360 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 5: But we clash. When to get. 758 00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:37,079 Speaker 4: Still? Monta call me down the bottle and met. 759 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 12: Me. 760 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:49,079 Speaker 4: Call me to the bottle and a trick. 761 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:54,760 Speaker 5: Call me to. 762 00:52:57,679 --> 00:52:58,079 Speaker 4: The bo 763 00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 5: A matrix, the pawn of you, Old of Pine bo