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was not planning on staying with this White House Press briefing.
I usually never do, but I am now because I
am like honestly, I am.
Speaker 1: I am shocked.
Speaker 2: I am shocked that after the Wall Street Journal report,
this press briefing has not had a single question yet
about whether or not members.
Speaker 3: Of civil society activists.
Speaker 2: Caring John Pierre knew about Joe Biden's mental incapacity to
help support them, whether or not Joe Biden had to
be protected from base everybody in all decision making aspects,
Like Jeff Blair asked or said in his piece at
National Review, we have been subjected to four years of
farcical of a farcical semi presidency, one whose drift is
now so easily explained by the simple fact that Biden
was little better than a front for an unelected committee
of top men who sent us careening from one international
and domestic disaster to another. And the most shameful aspect
of it all was Biden's acquiescence to this. Detached and
unable to remember details, unaware of what his own administration
was doing, unable to speak with minders to anyone for
more than a few minutes, he allowed his staff to
run the world and weave a cynical campaign of deception
as he sought another four years in office. And now
I'm supposed to believe that people in the media have
learned their lesson. Oh my gosh, I was deceived. You
are not acting like you were deceived right now, literally.
Speaker 4: Right now, to choose the American American people. First, they're
asking about bey omnibus crap. They're asking about the shutdown.
They're not asking anything about that. They are still participating
in the charade.
Speaker 3: Continue to implement, excel the implementation of key priorities that
the president has had, meaning the Biparson Infrastructure.
Speaker 1: Legislation, Who's the President Hips.
Speaker 3: And Science Act. We want to make sure that those
investments that continues and we want to excel on that,
and we've talked about continuing.
Speaker 2: To lare Here's so here's a question. You talk about
curring j on On Pierre, White House Press Secretary. You're talking
about all of these priorities, the things that he really
believes in. Okay, tell me about that conversation. Did he
actually espouse these things to you or did some other
people come up with these ideas?
Speaker 1: How is this stuff? Who? How is your briefing book written?
Speaker 2: All those bullet points that you're reading, These these three
talking points that just keep going over and over and
over again, but with different facial expressions.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. It's the same facial expression every time.
Speaker 2: But like, did the president help craft those? Tell me
about that process, walk me through it will be.
Speaker 5: Confident that in the event of a shutdown there would.
Speaker 3: Still be a huge transition.
Speaker 2: Another oneuration process, another one like really, commitment, are you
for real people?
Speaker 3: And that you've heard directly from him. We want to
make sure that there is a responsible committed to a
responsible transition. And as you know, his team, this.
Speaker 2: Has been going on for over half an hour and
they haven't asked a single question the.
Speaker 3: Team has been preparing for months to make sure that happens.
I will say, though, if there is a shutdown, and
I don't want to get too much into hypotheticals, but
this is the reality. Transition activities will be restricted and
U and with limited exceptions obviously, but such as prevent
imminent threats to the safety of human life or the
protection of property. Those are the things that we would
uh uh you know that we would have to be
concerned about. And so we're doing everything to ensure a
smooth transition.
Speaker 2: So are you saying that if you don't that if
the government shuts down, you won't protect Trump.
Speaker 1: Is that the idea we.
Speaker 3: Can continue to have this transition, smooth transition of power
if they stopped threatening a shutdown. Uh and A and
uh you know they have an opportunity, Republicans and Congress
have an opportunity to keep the government open so that
we can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to do that.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna They're going to run a clean
cr for you, and then you'll be able to keep
things operating at current funding levels.
Speaker 6: To clarifications, I guess the first one is this trip
to roam the last foreign trip that the president will take.
Speaker 3: What I can say is the President's going to Italy
and is going to go on a Kona strip in January.
I'm always very careful. Anything could happen, but what I
can say for sure is that the President's certainly going
to be going to Italy. We announce that we'll have
more to share. I don't have anything else to share it.
Speaker 6: And then, secondly, related to the cr given what you
said about the president's views on debt limit increases or
eliminating the debt limit, does that mean that that would
be something that would be vetoed by the president if
it reached his desk.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into hypotheta. I'm just not
I think what is important here.
Speaker 2: Is there is a right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a bipartisan blah blah blah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You don't want to get into it because you probably
don't have any idea. I'm curious. So like what happens.
Let's say let's say that that gets to the it clears,
the House clears, the Senate goes to the President's desk. Again,
See when I was a reporter, I would ask these
questions like this all the time, which is walk me through, like,
walk me through your day, Walk me through this decision
making process, walk me through the meeting that happened where
this thing happened. Right, tell me the story what happened, right,
walk me through it. So walk me through it. Who
decides whether the president, Oh, she's gone, look at that.
That is amazing. That is absolutely amazing. We have had
a president that has non compassmentt this for four years
and the media is like, oh my gosh, we had
no idea, we were deceived. I can't believe it. Right,
We're seeing these Maya Culpis, Chrys Solilla's out there, Solilisa
Silica whatever his name is, right, and these others. I
was working at THENN and I maybe I should have
pushed harder. Okay, yeah, you guys shouted down everybody that
was like, Wow, Joe Biden looks weird. Wow, Joe Biden
needs special shoes. Wow, Joe Biden just fell off a bicycle. Wow,
Joe Biden can't string together a bunch of sentences. Wow,
Joe Biden's voice seems really weak. By the way you
hear this, They hired a Hollywood guy to come in
and help coach him to make his voice stronger to
try to offset the weak, raspy sound of Biden's voice,
and your first opportunity to hold the powerful accountable for
their lives to the American people. Your first chance to
do that was today. And I'm being charitable because I
know y'all knew, But this is your first chance to
distance yourself, to send a signal that, like, I didn't
know what was going on, but you can trust me
to tell you what's going on. Like that's the like,
that's the most salvageable position you've got at this point,
which is not a good position, to be fair, but
that's where you're at, right, You're now in the position
you have.
Speaker 1: You have to choose.
Speaker 2: You were either duped and you suck at your job
or because that's literally your job, right, or you're part
of the cover up. And that is what this was.
This was a cover up. So are you part of
the cover up? And I think I now have my answer.
See part of this is and I recognize, like I
tried to give people the benefit of the doubt, and
sometimes that means I get hurt, that is true.
Speaker 1: But I have.
Speaker 2: A place in my heart for journalism, for the press.
I used to be a reporter. I went into that
line of work because I believe in the constitutional necessity,
the civilizational necessity of a free press, and so it's
hard for me to actually understand that there are people
in this profession, and not just some, but apparently every
freaking person in that room. Not a single person asked
a question. A single person asking a single question about
that walls t rejournal report. Were they told that she
wouldn't answer it more of a reason to ask the question,
what are you even doing there? You spent half an
hour asking every permutation of the same question, which is,
can't Joe Biden come out and play That's what you
were asking.
Speaker 7: Can he come out and make an address? Can he
come out and say everything? Can he come out and
say these things? There was a guy I don't know
who he is, I've seen him before. I think he
works at CBS or CBS News, and he was.
Speaker 8: Like, you do a fantastic job of advocating for the
president and his positions, but don't you think it might
be helpful for the American people to see the president. No,
I don't need to see Joe Biden anymore. I don't
I don't need to hear from him. I don't need
to see him nothing. I want to see and hear
from the people that are actually calling the shots.
Speaker 2: That's who I want to see. That's who I want
to hear from. I want to see and hear from
the people that have been lying about Joe Biden's mentalkqut
for four years. I want to see and hear from
the people that would tell visitors, hey, when you come
in to meet the president, you know, we may have
to cancel if it's a bad day. He has good
days and bad days, and so if it's a bad day,
we're gonna have to cancel. But if you get in,
you're gonna get thirty seconds say what you need to
say in like maybe five or six sentences. And even
if Joe is blankly staring at you, he may not
speak to you, but that's okay. We'll let him know
what you said afterwards, and just keep it really simple,
short words, you know, and just kind of say your thing,
and then we're going to get you out of there.
That's what they were doing, and they were doing it
from the beginning, from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: Who was doing that? Were you doing that?
Speaker 2: Karine Jean Pierre? Were you part of it. What role
did you play in the cover up? That's the question
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Speaker 1: No, I banned you, Frank, that's how that goes.
Speaker 2: But I appreciate you holding for what was that forty
minutes today and I think you held for about forty
minutes yesterday. No, you got banned. You're an anti Semite
and a bigot, and so I banned you from the show.
Speaker 1: That's why that happened.
Speaker 2: But I did feel like I wanted to waste your
time as you wasted mine every time you call Merry Christmas.
And that is me being nice, by the way. All right, Robert,
welcome to the program. Hello Robert, how.
Speaker 5: Are you good? Afternoon? Pete? I waited about three minutes,
so I appreciate the front like you. Like you, Pete,
I'm a giver and oh good, and I I tend
to see things in the positive light all the time.
So you and I have at least those couple of
things in And Uh, Pete, I don't ever want to
hear the word gas lighting again from the left. Uh,
speaking of giving President Biden, who's still our president. I'll
admit that it's a fact President Biden has been giving
a lot lately, given he's given President Trump and the
first buddy Elon and anyone else involved the Carte blanche
to gaslight uh and also to do any kind of
pardons they want to do given what Biden did. Carrine
John Pierre is a is a an embarrassment to her profession,
and she will not be missed.
Speaker 1: No, she's awful.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a press secretary as bad as she,
and I don't know, like she was nature we did
this story or covered did somebody else, uh, you know,
did the story about how they were trying to force
her out, remember a couple of months or a year
ago or something, and she refused to go in anywhere,
like she dug in and they had lined up a
job for her and everything because they knew she was terrible.
But yeah, I mean she gets up there, she reads
from her binder, her two or three talking points, and
the press just lets her get away with it.
Speaker 1: It is it is. I am surprised.
Speaker 2: I am surprised because I thought that the Wall Street
Journal article was going to, you know, open the floodgates
for honesty to actually break through, and it even now
it still doesn't.
Speaker 5: Well, Pete, as you know the left leaning press will
cover for their side unless they have no choice. I mean,
I go back to the debate between Biden and Trump.
When I watched that debate, I thought, well, Biden is
actually doing a little bit better than what he normally does.
And because I had been watching him closely for years, objectively,
but I was amazed at how the press at that
point that point reached. There was a critical mass reached,
and they knew that that point that they couldn't cover
for him anymore. At that point, they had no choice.
Speaker 2: Right, they got forced to pivot. Pivot they did. Then
they were like, well, what are we going to do?
And remember because up until that point, nobody wanted Kamala Harris.
That's why they didn't want to force Joe Biden out,
because Harris was sort of the insurance policy because she
was terrible for the Bidens, right, that was the Biden
insurance policy was to put in a veep that nobody
else wanted. She was so bad she couldn't even win
her home state, dropped out before any primary votes in
twenty twenties election or sorry, twenty sixteen's election, and they
put her in there, and they didn't want her in
there they said she was awful and that was the
impediment to removing Joe Biden. But then eventually they were like, okay, yeah,
we can't rehab this anymore.
Speaker 1: The gig is up, like.
Speaker 2: Put her in, and then it became she is amazing,
just overnight, complete pivot.
Speaker 1: It was amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's truly, remarked Robert. I appreciate the call, sir,
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And you know, it's just a suggestion. I'm not telling
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come on all right? From Russ he says, the damn
breaking on Biden world is necessary for Democrats. They're staring
down two paths. The first path, the last four years
have been exactly what Americans can expect from the Democrat policies.
And they have no regrets or anything that they would change. Plus,
Kamala Harris ran a flawless campaign. Right, that's one path
that you can take. Everything was great, Everything was awesome, right,
like that. That's the one path. The other path is
it was all Joe Biden and his closest advisor's fault,
and man, did they fool us? All right, those are
your two paths if you're willing to lie obviously, right,
I mean, because both of these are not true. But
I think russ is correct. Democrats have a choice to
make here what path do you take? And by the way,
media does too. Media has a path. And I thought
that they were going to take the path of burning
the Biden legacy and saying we didn't know any of
this that was going on. I can't believe that they
kept him, you know, cordoned off from everybody.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's maybe that's me.
Speaker 2: I have been. There was a caller I used to
call me Pollyanna Pete. What was his name up in Asheville.
We used to call him tinfoil something. He welcomed it.
He joked about it. So there wasn't like a negative
we was in. It wasn't a pejorative. We had debates
all the time about that stuff. But he'd always say,
you're Pollyanna Pete. Tinfoil Tom I think was his name,
And so he came up with that Moniker because he's like, oh, yeah,
you just you're naive on all of these things, and
I just and maybe I am on this.
Speaker 1: I just thought this was the easiest path to take.
Speaker 2: Like, you now have the cover, right, you have the
permission structure in place. Now because of the reporting at
the Wall Street Journal. Now you can say oh me too,
hashtag me too. You could say I was also kept
in the dark. They wouldn't let me get close to him.
Russell also says I often wonder if KJP is the
worst to ever do the job, or if she is
actually doing the best that could be expected of anybody
trying to put a positive spin on the worst president
and administration to ever do their jobs. That I have
heard this question before. No, she is the worst. She's
just all nothing about Like nothing about her is believable.
That's the thing about a press secretary is that there
has to be some level of believability, some level of credibility.
If you get up there and you start reading off
of a script with bullet points, and then you adopt
this affectation that you have this stuff committed to memory,
and so I'm just going to tell you and you
do the head bob thing and you kind of, you know,
you do the shoulder dip, you know, where you kind
of like lean to a side and the one shoulder
dips down and you start, you know, doing the thing
with your hand in like the circular motions, Like all right,
come on, now, you understand what's going on here. This
is all very obvious, and let me be very clear.
And you say let me be clear a dozen times
in every sentence. And it's quite obvious that you are
reading the things that you are pretending everybody knows, but
you need to read.
Speaker 1: Them right, Like it's not credible.
Speaker 2: It's like in the documentary The Simpsons when Krusty the
Clown beat his brother Cecil for the clown job, right
and what or sorry, not Crusty but the sidekick mel
or No was it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, when sidekick Cecil lost out on the job,
he wanted to be Crusty's sidekick and he didn't get
the gig. Why because he didn't have dignity. And the
pie in the face gag doesn't work, Cecil, unless you
got dignity. If you're just like I'm going to do
a pie in the face now, hah, look at me,
Like oh gosh, this is just embarrassing. It's not funny.
That's the problem with Karine Jean Pierre accept it's with credibility.
She doesn't have the credibility. So when you're standing up
there saying everybody knows this thing, everybody knows, you don't
even know it because you're reading from a script. And
then you're acting like I'm the idiot, when you're the idiot,
says I feel sorry for Joan Pierre or Joan Pear,
Joan Pear whatever, for having to stand up in front
of the press and have to lie, to make up stories,
to spin the words to protect Biden, and like you said,
she's terrible at it, right. See, I think Michael's right there.
I think the key here is that she is being
tasked with something that is very difficult, and also she
sucks at it.
Speaker 1: So that's it's like a.
Speaker 2: Multi layer problem going on here. Pete, if they asked
her any of the questions that you raised, she will
leave the podium, says Mark. That's possible too. Then then
then that's the video clip.
Speaker 1: See. I think I think that.
Speaker 2: I called it pack journalism, and that is what's going on.
But it's like a click in junior high, you know,
and like this, and I remember that time. I see
I was always one of these guys like I kind
of I bounced around between all the different clicks. I
had a foot in all of these little worlds. I
had a lot of feedback then, and so I never
I never liked that. I never liked this idea like, oh,
these are the cool kids. They sit at this table,
and I was like, eh, you know, I never liked that.
I would sit wherever I wanted to in the cafeteria
in college. You know, there was at Winthrop they had
a raised sort of platform where they had tables up
above and stairs like three steps, just you know, a
little bit of a platform, and then they had longer
tables up there, and everybody called it Mount Olympus because
that's where all the Greeks, that's where all the fraternities
and sororities they all sat up there, so we all
called it Mount Olympus. Well, when I eventually joined a fraternity,
and I was I joined late just to meet new
people and get new experiences and stuff, and I would
go up there any of them, but I would also
go back down and sit down.
Speaker 1: Below too, Like I didn't. I didn't care.
Speaker 2: It didn't matter to me. And that's what the press
course strikes me as. And one of the things about
being in those clicks is that you, you know, not
to say certain things because you don't want to jam
up your fellow clickmates right clickers, click i ins, click owens,
whatever like. You don't want to you don't want to
mess up the world and the vibe going on there.
Speaker 1: By making the teacher mad at you. That's who they
remind me of.
Speaker 2: Really, now that I think about it, actually, I'm thinking
these are the kids that reminded the teacher that she
didn't assign us homework for the night. You know that kid,
That's who they remind me of. Brown nosers, thrown sniffers.
There are other phrases that I shall refrain from using.
I mentioned Cheryl Atkinson, she said a quick story here
about how government shutdowns in the theatric behind them work.
One year I was working at CBS News during a
shutdown I think twenty thirteen. We were sincerely searching for
real life impacts when we wouldn't find or couldn't find
any that should have been part of the story. Instead,
we kept trying to create the appearance of an impact.
It wasn't really trying to be dishonest. It was, in
my retrospective view, because the general editorial idea for the
story was to show how bad the Republican shutdown was
for ordinary Americans, and the answer simply couldn't be that
it wasn't. I've written quite a bit about this, but
we as journalists too often decide the story in advance
and shape the facts to fit the narrative, rather than
gathering information and letting that tell the story whatever it
may be. Anyway, the Democrats were blaming Republicans for the shutdown,
so we were calling Democrats and the Obama administration for
ideas to report what was the real impact. Taking our queue,
those officials fabricated impacts that we could then report on.
For example, they cordoned off outdoor public monuments in Washington, DC.
We knew and even discussed in the newsroom that this
made no sense. These monuments were not manned to begin with.
The only reason to cord them off from the public
was so that visiting tourists would see the impact of
the shutdowns, and then the news media would have something
to take pictures of and interview people about. There are
other examples, but this is the one I remember the most.
I remember that one too. Remember the World War Two
veterans on the flights where they run the fly veteran
World War Two vets up to see the World War
Two memorial and they had shut it down during one
of these shutdowns. They put up barriers and stuff, and
these World War Two vets are like, look, we store
them the beach at Normandy. Your barricades are not stopping us.
They just ripped them down. Insurrection, they ripped them down.
They just went in like you're not going to stop
them from doing these are people think about how stupid
they this is. If you don't, this may blow your mind.
If you never if you weren't aware of this, if
you aren't old enough to remember this, they literally close.
They put up cones and barriers on the shoulder on
the side of a road where you could see Mount
Rushmore from People would pull over to the side of
the road on the shoulder and they would take pictures
of Mount Rushmore because it was a nice, big open
plains area and you could see the carvings in the mountain.
And so the Park Service put up cones along that
road to prevent people from taking pictures. They put up
This was hilarious one. Remember they put the like the
ropeline or whatever around Old Faithful the guyser, so you
couldn't so you couldn't go up next to it take
a picture of it. This is how stupid it was.
And then these stories were just pushed out. And this
was really before Twitter kind of came into it, so on.
Twitter had been around for a couple of years by
that point. But at this point, like you start seeing
these ridiculous photos as they're trying to make people hurt.
That was what they were doing. They were using the
shutdown to make people hurt for political advantage. And that's
what Republicans are afraid of now.
Speaker 1: And that's why.
Speaker 2: Look, if you just passed the clean CR, pass a
disaster relief bill, and you make everybody vote on them,
and then we will know, and this will give Democrats
the opportunity to vote against a clean CR.
Speaker 1: Or vote for it.
Speaker 2: I like, if I was them in the House, I'd
vote for it and a disaster relief bill. If I'm
a Democrat in North Carolina, I'm voting for that. And
then you got Republicans that would probably vote against it
because it would be new debt one hundred billion dollars
that's not paid for, and they could vote against it,
but you would then have a bipartisan vote on that.
See here's the thing. When you split these things up
and you make people vote on the individual issue, this
is crazy, but they vote on the individual issue.
Speaker 1: I know it's crazy. All right.
Speaker 2: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you, Thank you
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