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I 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,960 was not planning on staying with this White House Press briefing. 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,079 I usually never do, but I am now because I 12 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:36,759 am like honestly, I am. 13 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: I am shocked. 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: I am shocked that after the Wall Street Journal report, 15 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:46,119 this press briefing has not had a single question yet 16 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:49,039 about whether or not members. 17 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:50,679 Speaker 3: Of civil society activists. 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: Caring John Pierre knew about Joe Biden's mental incapacity to 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,600 help support them, whether or not Joe Biden had to 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,960 be protected from base everybody in all decision making aspects, 21 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:07,719 Like Jeff Blair asked or said in his piece at 22 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:12,079 National Review, we have been subjected to four years of 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:18,079 farcical of a farcical semi presidency, one whose drift is 24 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:21,640 now so easily explained by the simple fact that Biden 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,120 was little better than a front for an unelected committee 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,000 of top men who sent us careening from one international 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,840 and domestic disaster to another. And the most shameful aspect 28 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:37,799 of it all was Biden's acquiescence to this. Detached and 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,519 unable to remember details, unaware of what his own administration 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,599 was doing, unable to speak with minders to anyone for 31 00:01:46,719 --> 00:01:49,959 more than a few minutes, he allowed his staff to 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,640 run the world and weave a cynical campaign of deception 33 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:58,680 as he sought another four years in office. And now 34 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:01,200 I'm supposed to believe that people in the media have 35 00:02:01,319 --> 00:02:03,959 learned their lesson. Oh my gosh, I was deceived. You 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,159 are not acting like you were deceived right now, literally. 37 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:13,159 Speaker 4: Right now, to choose the American American people. First, they're 38 00:02:13,199 --> 00:02:18,319 asking about bey omnibus crap. They're asking about the shutdown. 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,240 They're not asking anything about that. They are still participating 40 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,280 in the charade. 41 00:02:23,479 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: Continue to implement, excel the implementation of key priorities that 42 00:02:28,719 --> 00:02:32,280 the president has had, meaning the Biparson Infrastructure. 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Legislation, Who's the President Hips. 44 00:02:33,479 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: And Science Act. We want to make sure that those 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,800 investments that continues and we want to excel on that, 46 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,639 and we've talked about continuing. 47 00:02:41,199 --> 00:02:44,159 Speaker 2: To lare Here's so here's a question. You talk about 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,479 curring j on On Pierre, White House Press Secretary. You're talking 49 00:02:48,479 --> 00:02:50,520 about all of these priorities, the things that he really 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,120 believes in. Okay, tell me about that conversation. Did he 51 00:02:55,319 --> 00:03:00,319 actually espouse these things to you or did some other 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,159 people come up with these ideas? 53 00:03:03,319 --> 00:03:06,039 Speaker 1: How is this stuff? Who? How is your briefing book written? 54 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,719 Speaker 2: All those bullet points that you're reading, These these three 55 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,080 talking points that just keep going over and over and 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,120 over again, but with different facial expressions. 57 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:15,439 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. It's the same facial expression every time. 58 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: But like, did the president help craft those? Tell me 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,719 about that process, walk me through it will be. 60 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: Confident that in the event of a shutdown there would. 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: Still be a huge transition. 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,599 Speaker 2: Another oneuration process, another one like really, commitment, are you 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,439 for real people? 64 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: And that you've heard directly from him. We want to 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,240 make sure that there is a responsible committed to a 66 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,159 responsible transition. And as you know, his team, this. 67 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: Has been going on for over half an hour and 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,919 they haven't asked a single question the. 69 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: Team has been preparing for months to make sure that happens. 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:54,240 I will say, though, if there is a shutdown, and 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,240 I don't want to get too much into hypotheticals, but 72 00:03:56,319 --> 00:04:00,120 this is the reality. Transition activities will be restricted and 73 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,199 U and with limited exceptions obviously, but such as prevent 74 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:07,680 imminent threats to the safety of human life or the 75 00:04:07,719 --> 00:04:10,560 protection of property. Those are the things that we would 76 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,159 uh uh you know that we would have to be 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,879 concerned about. And so we're doing everything to ensure a 78 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,720 smooth transition. 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,439 Speaker 2: So are you saying that if you don't that if 80 00:04:20,439 --> 00:04:22,720 the government shuts down, you won't protect Trump. 81 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,079 Speaker 1: Is that the idea we. 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: Can continue to have this transition, smooth transition of power 83 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:34,360 if they stopped threatening a shutdown. Uh and A and 84 00:04:34,759 --> 00:04:39,160 uh you know they have an opportunity, Republicans and Congress 85 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:42,680 have an opportunity to keep the government open so that 86 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:43,040 we can. 87 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to do that. 88 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna They're going to run a clean 89 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:47,879 cr for you, and then you'll be able to keep 90 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:54,079 things operating at current funding levels. 91 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 6: To clarifications, I guess the first one is this trip 92 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,959 to roam the last foreign trip that the president will take. 93 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: What I can say is the President's going to Italy 94 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:06,720 and is going to go on a Kona strip in January. 95 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:11,600 I'm always very careful. Anything could happen, but what I 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,480 can say for sure is that the President's certainly going 97 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:16,680 to be going to Italy. We announce that we'll have 98 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:18,480 more to share. I don't have anything else to share it. 99 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 6: And then, secondly, related to the cr given what you 100 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,720 said about the president's views on debt limit increases or 101 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:27,800 eliminating the debt limit, does that mean that that would 102 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,519 be something that would be vetoed by the president if 103 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:31,319 it reached his desk. 104 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,079 Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into hypotheta. I'm just not 105 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,399 I think what is important here. 106 00:05:35,439 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: Is there is a right. 107 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a bipartisan blah blah blah. Yeah. 108 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: You don't want to get into it because you probably 109 00:05:40,079 --> 00:05:44,199 don't have any idea. I'm curious. So like what happens. 110 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,759 Let's say let's say that that gets to the it clears, 111 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:52,040 the House clears, the Senate goes to the President's desk. Again, 112 00:05:52,079 --> 00:05:53,759 See when I was a reporter, I would ask these 113 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,000 questions like this all the time, which is walk me through, like, 114 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,600 walk me through your day, Walk me through this decision 115 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:02,560 making process, walk me through the meeting that happened where 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,160 this thing happened. Right, tell me the story what happened, right, 117 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:10,480 walk me through it. So walk me through it. Who 118 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:13,360 decides whether the president, Oh, she's gone, look at that. 119 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,759 That is amazing. That is absolutely amazing. We have had 120 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,319 a president that has non compassmentt this for four years 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,600 and the media is like, oh my gosh, we had 122 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:27,480 no idea, we were deceived. I can't believe it. Right, 123 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,680 We're seeing these Maya Culpis, Chrys Solilla's out there, Solilisa 124 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,959 Silica whatever his name is, right, and these others. I 125 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,480 was working at THENN and I maybe I should have 126 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:43,839 pushed harder. Okay, yeah, you guys shouted down everybody that 127 00:06:43,959 --> 00:06:46,879 was like, Wow, Joe Biden looks weird. Wow, Joe Biden 128 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:50,399 needs special shoes. Wow, Joe Biden just fell off a bicycle. Wow, 129 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,079 Joe Biden can't string together a bunch of sentences. Wow, 130 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,480 Joe Biden's voice seems really weak. By the way you 131 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,680 hear this, They hired a Hollywood guy to come in 132 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,079 and help coach him to make his voice stronger to 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,560 try to offset the weak, raspy sound of Biden's voice, 134 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:16,360 and your first opportunity to hold the powerful accountable for 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,360 their lives to the American people. Your first chance to 136 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:26,040 do that was today. And I'm being charitable because I 137 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,439 know y'all knew, But this is your first chance to 138 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,000 distance yourself, to send a signal that, like, I didn't 139 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,920 know what was going on, but you can trust me 140 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,439 to tell you what's going on. Like that's the like, 141 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:41,399 that's the most salvageable position you've got at this point, 142 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:43,959 which is not a good position, to be fair, but 143 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,800 that's where you're at, right, You're now in the position 144 00:07:48,879 --> 00:07:49,079 you have. 145 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:49,959 Speaker 1: You have to choose. 146 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:52,759 Speaker 2: You were either duped and you suck at your job 147 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:59,040 or because that's literally your job, right, or you're part 148 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,720 of the cover up. And that is what this was. 149 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,920 This was a cover up. So are you part of 150 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,199 the cover up? And I think I now have my answer. 151 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:11,000 See part of this is and I recognize, like I 152 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,120 tried to give people the benefit of the doubt, and 153 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,199 sometimes that means I get hurt, that is true. 154 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: But I have. 155 00:08:20,759 --> 00:08:26,279 Speaker 2: A place in my heart for journalism, for the press. 156 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:29,560 I used to be a reporter. I went into that 157 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,679 line of work because I believe in the constitutional necessity, 158 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:40,919 the civilizational necessity of a free press, and so it's 159 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,799 hard for me to actually understand that there are people 160 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:49,279 in this profession, and not just some, but apparently every 161 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:55,039 freaking person in that room. Not a single person asked 162 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,519 a question. A single person asking a single question about 163 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,759 that walls t rejournal report. Were they told that she 164 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:05,159 wouldn't answer it more of a reason to ask the question, 165 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,840 what are you even doing there? You spent half an 166 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:15,200 hour asking every permutation of the same question, which is, 167 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,840 can't Joe Biden come out and play That's what you 168 00:09:17,879 --> 00:09:18,279 were asking. 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 7: Can he come out and make an address? Can he 170 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,240 come out and say everything? Can he come out and 171 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,000 say these things? There was a guy I don't know 172 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,919 who he is, I've seen him before. I think he 173 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:31,559 works at CBS or CBS News, and he was. 174 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:34,519 Speaker 8: Like, you do a fantastic job of advocating for the 175 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,559 president and his positions, but don't you think it might 176 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,679 be helpful for the American people to see the president. No, 177 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,240 I don't need to see Joe Biden anymore. I don't 178 00:09:46,279 --> 00:09:48,039 I don't need to hear from him. I don't need 179 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,000 to see him nothing. I want to see and hear 180 00:09:51,039 --> 00:09:53,120 from the people that are actually calling the shots. 181 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: That's who I want to see. That's who I want 182 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,840 to hear from. I want to see and hear from 183 00:09:56,879 --> 00:09:59,960 the people that have been lying about Joe Biden's mentalkqut 184 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,080 for four years. I want to see and hear from 185 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,960 the people that would tell visitors, hey, when you come 186 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,639 in to meet the president, you know, we may have 187 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,320 to cancel if it's a bad day. He has good 188 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:13,000 days and bad days, and so if it's a bad day, 189 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,600 we're gonna have to cancel. But if you get in, 190 00:10:14,799 --> 00:10:16,759 you're gonna get thirty seconds say what you need to 191 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:19,559 say in like maybe five or six sentences. And even 192 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,960 if Joe is blankly staring at you, he may not 193 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,360 speak to you, but that's okay. We'll let him know 194 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:29,559 what you said afterwards, and just keep it really simple, 195 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:32,720 short words, you know, and just kind of say your thing, 196 00:10:32,759 --> 00:10:34,039 and then we're going to get you out of there. 197 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,720 That's what they were doing, and they were doing it 198 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:41,200 from the beginning, from the very beginning. 199 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,159 Speaker 1: Who was doing that? Were you doing that? 200 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: Karine Jean Pierre? Were you part of it. What role 201 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:53,399 did you play in the cover up? That's the question 202 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:57,159 to ask her, what role did you play? 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Wait, this is Frank, didn't I ban 222 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:02,360 you from the show? 223 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: No, you got upset with me one day, but. 224 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,519 Speaker 1: No, I banned you, Frank, that's how that goes. 225 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: But I appreciate you holding for what was that forty 226 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,639 minutes today and I think you held for about forty 227 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,279 minutes yesterday. No, you got banned. You're an anti Semite 228 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,519 and a bigot, and so I banned you from the show. 229 00:12:21,799 --> 00:12:22,919 Speaker 1: That's why that happened. 230 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,279 Speaker 2: But I did feel like I wanted to waste your 231 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,759 time as you wasted mine every time you call Merry Christmas. 232 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,399 And that is me being nice, by the way. All right, Robert, 233 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,200 welcome to the program. Hello Robert, how. 234 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:43,039 Speaker 5: Are you good? Afternoon? Pete? I waited about three minutes, 235 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:50,120 so I appreciate the front like you. Like you, Pete, 236 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:54,679 I'm a giver and oh good, and I I tend 237 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,440 to see things in the positive light all the time. 238 00:12:57,519 --> 00:12:59,519 So you and I have at least those couple of 239 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,360 things in And Uh, Pete, I don't ever want to 240 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,720 hear the word gas lighting again from the left. Uh, 241 00:13:06,759 --> 00:13:10,679 speaking of giving President Biden, who's still our president. I'll 242 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,480 admit that it's a fact President Biden has been giving 243 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:19,000 a lot lately, given he's given President Trump and the 244 00:13:19,039 --> 00:13:24,799 first buddy Elon and anyone else involved the Carte blanche 245 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:28,759 to gaslight uh and also to do any kind of 246 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:34,399 pardons they want to do given what Biden did. Carrine 247 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:40,000 John Pierre is a is a an embarrassment to her profession, 248 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,480 and she will not be missed. 249 00:13:41,639 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: No, she's awful. 250 00:13:42,799 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: I've never seen a press secretary as bad as she, 251 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,799 and I don't know, like she was nature we did 252 00:13:49,799 --> 00:13:52,480 this story or covered did somebody else, uh, you know, 253 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:55,080 did the story about how they were trying to force 254 00:13:55,159 --> 00:13:57,759 her out, remember a couple of months or a year 255 00:13:57,799 --> 00:14:00,519 ago or something, and she refused to go in anywhere, 256 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,360 like she dug in and they had lined up a 257 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,399 job for her and everything because they knew she was terrible. 258 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,399 But yeah, I mean she gets up there, she reads 259 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,399 from her binder, her two or three talking points, and 260 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,200 the press just lets her get away with it. 261 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: It is it is. I am surprised. 262 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: I am surprised because I thought that the Wall Street 263 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,240 Journal article was going to, you know, open the floodgates 264 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:26,559 for honesty to actually break through, and it even now 265 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,399 it still doesn't. 266 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:31,879 Speaker 5: Well, Pete, as you know the left leaning press will 267 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:36,000 cover for their side unless they have no choice. I mean, 268 00:14:36,039 --> 00:14:38,840 I go back to the debate between Biden and Trump. 269 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,320 When I watched that debate, I thought, well, Biden is 270 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,799 actually doing a little bit better than what he normally does. 271 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:51,799 And because I had been watching him closely for years, objectively, 272 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:55,399 but I was amazed at how the press at that 273 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:58,840 point that point reached. There was a critical mass reached, 274 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,759 and they knew that that point that they couldn't cover 275 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:05,960 for him anymore. At that point, they had no choice. 276 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: Right, they got forced to pivot. Pivot they did. Then 277 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,759 they were like, well, what are we going to do? 278 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,559 And remember because up until that point, nobody wanted Kamala Harris. 279 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,600 That's why they didn't want to force Joe Biden out, 280 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,559 because Harris was sort of the insurance policy because she 281 00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:24,639 was terrible for the Bidens, right, that was the Biden 282 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,440 insurance policy was to put in a veep that nobody 283 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:30,919 else wanted. She was so bad she couldn't even win 284 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,360 her home state, dropped out before any primary votes in 285 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:40,679 twenty twenties election or sorry, twenty sixteen's election, and they 286 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,720 put her in there, and they didn't want her in 287 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:45,120 there they said she was awful and that was the 288 00:15:45,159 --> 00:15:49,600 impediment to removing Joe Biden. But then eventually they were like, okay, yeah, 289 00:15:49,679 --> 00:15:50,960 we can't rehab this anymore. 290 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: The gig is up, like. 291 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: Put her in, and then it became she is amazing, 292 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,720 just overnight, complete pivot. 293 00:15:57,759 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: It was amazing. 294 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:01,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's truly, remarked Robert. 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And if you missed any 316 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,319 previous episodes, like you could spend the next two weeks 317 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,640 going back, like one would empty out the inbox, clear 318 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,640 emails and stuff. You could listen to the old episodes. 319 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,519 And you know, it's just a suggestion. I'm not telling 320 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:24,240 you how to live your life. I'm a libertarian, Like, 321 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:28,400 come on all right? From Russ he says, the damn 322 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:34,079 breaking on Biden world is necessary for Democrats. They're staring 323 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:40,000 down two paths. The first path, the last four years 324 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,640 have been exactly what Americans can expect from the Democrat policies. 325 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,079 And they have no regrets or anything that they would change. Plus, 326 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:51,640 Kamala Harris ran a flawless campaign. Right, that's one path 327 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,519 that you can take. Everything was great, Everything was awesome, right, 328 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:59,440 like that. That's the one path. The other path is 329 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:04,200 it was all Joe Biden and his closest advisor's fault, 330 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,559 and man, did they fool us? All right, those are 331 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:12,279 your two paths if you're willing to lie obviously, right, 332 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:15,720 I mean, because both of these are not true. But 333 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,519 I think russ is correct. Democrats have a choice to 334 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:22,960 make here what path do you take? And by the way, 335 00:18:23,079 --> 00:18:27,400 media does too. Media has a path. And I thought 336 00:18:27,559 --> 00:18:32,640 that they were going to take the path of burning 337 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,599 the Biden legacy and saying we didn't know any of 338 00:18:36,599 --> 00:18:38,960 this that was going on. I can't believe that they 339 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:41,960 kept him, you know, cordoned off from everybody. 340 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,079 Speaker 1: And maybe that's maybe that's me. 341 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: I have been. There was a caller I used to 342 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,359 call me Pollyanna Pete. What was his name up in Asheville. 343 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:57,359 We used to call him tinfoil something. He welcomed it. 344 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,519 He joked about it. So there wasn't like a negative 345 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:02,880 we was in. It wasn't a pejorative. We had debates 346 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,559 all the time about that stuff. But he'd always say, 347 00:19:04,599 --> 00:19:08,160 you're Pollyanna Pete. Tinfoil Tom I think was his name, 348 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,039 And so he came up with that Moniker because he's like, oh, yeah, 349 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:15,200 you just you're naive on all of these things, and 350 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:17,240 I just and maybe I am on this. 351 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: I just thought this was the easiest path to take. 352 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,519 Speaker 2: Like, you now have the cover, right, you have the 353 00:19:24,559 --> 00:19:28,960 permission structure in place. Now because of the reporting at 354 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,319 the Wall Street Journal. Now you can say oh me too, 355 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,359 hashtag me too. You could say I was also kept 356 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,000 in the dark. They wouldn't let me get close to him. 357 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,759 Russell also says I often wonder if KJP is the 358 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:44,920 worst to ever do the job, or if she is 359 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,920 actually doing the best that could be expected of anybody 360 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,559 trying to put a positive spin on the worst president 361 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,599 and administration to ever do their jobs. That I have 362 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:59,519 heard this question before. No, she is the worst. She's 363 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,880 just all nothing about Like nothing about her is believable. 364 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,799 That's the thing about a press secretary is that there 365 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:11,119 has to be some level of believability, some level of credibility. 366 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,079 If you get up there and you start reading off 367 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,119 of a script with bullet points, and then you adopt 368 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,839 this affectation that you have this stuff committed to memory, 369 00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:26,200 and so I'm just going to tell you and you 370 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,400 do the head bob thing and you kind of, you know, 371 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,799 you do the shoulder dip, you know, where you kind 372 00:20:31,839 --> 00:20:33,920 of like lean to a side and the one shoulder 373 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,119 dips down and you start, you know, doing the thing 374 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,240 with your hand in like the circular motions, Like all right, 375 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:41,519 come on, now, you understand what's going on here. This 376 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,920 is all very obvious, and let me be very clear. 377 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,680 And you say let me be clear a dozen times 378 00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:50,920 in every sentence. And it's quite obvious that you are 379 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:55,160 reading the things that you are pretending everybody knows, but 380 00:20:55,279 --> 00:20:56,319 you need to read. 381 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: Them right, Like it's not credible. 382 00:20:59,839 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: It's like in the documentary The Simpsons when Krusty the 383 00:21:04,039 --> 00:21:10,079 Clown beat his brother Cecil for the clown job, right 384 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:14,200 and what or sorry, not Crusty but the sidekick mel 385 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,480 or No was it? 386 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:15,759 Speaker 1: Yeah? 387 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: Like yeah, when sidekick Cecil lost out on the job, 388 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,480 he wanted to be Crusty's sidekick and he didn't get 389 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,240 the gig. Why because he didn't have dignity. And the 390 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:28,559 pie in the face gag doesn't work, Cecil, unless you 391 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,960 got dignity. If you're just like I'm going to do 392 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,519 a pie in the face now, hah, look at me, 393 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,720 Like oh gosh, this is just embarrassing. It's not funny. 394 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,279 That's the problem with Karine Jean Pierre accept it's with credibility. 395 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,680 She doesn't have the credibility. So when you're standing up 396 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,160 there saying everybody knows this thing, everybody knows, you don't 397 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,759 even know it because you're reading from a script. And 398 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:59,359 then you're acting like I'm the idiot, when you're the idiot, 399 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,160 says I feel sorry for Joan Pierre or Joan Pear, 400 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:10,319 Joan Pear whatever, for having to stand up in front 401 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,839 of the press and have to lie, to make up stories, 402 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:15,599 to spin the words to protect Biden, and like you said, 403 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,079 she's terrible at it, right. See, I think Michael's right there. 404 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,559 I think the key here is that she is being 405 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,440 tasked with something that is very difficult, and also she 406 00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:25,119 sucks at it. 407 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: So that's it's like a. 408 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,839 Speaker 2: Multi layer problem going on here. Pete, if they asked 409 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,359 her any of the questions that you raised, she will 410 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,720 leave the podium, says Mark. That's possible too. Then then 411 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,480 then that's the video clip. 412 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: See. I think I think that. 413 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: I called it pack journalism, and that is what's going on. 414 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,799 But it's like a click in junior high, you know, 415 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,680 and like this, and I remember that time. I see 416 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,680 I was always one of these guys like I kind 417 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,799 of I bounced around between all the different clicks. I 418 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:10,880 had a foot in all of these little worlds. I 419 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,720 had a lot of feedback then, and so I never 420 00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:18,279 I never liked that. I never liked this idea like, oh, 421 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:20,480 these are the cool kids. They sit at this table, 422 00:23:20,519 --> 00:23:22,440 and I was like, eh, you know, I never liked that. 423 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,720 I would sit wherever I wanted to in the cafeteria 424 00:23:24,759 --> 00:23:27,480 in college. You know, there was at Winthrop they had 425 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,559 a raised sort of platform where they had tables up 426 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:34,839 above and stairs like three steps, just you know, a 427 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,200 little bit of a platform, and then they had longer 428 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,759 tables up there, and everybody called it Mount Olympus because 429 00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:44,400 that's where all the Greeks, that's where all the fraternities 430 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,680 and sororities they all sat up there, so we all 431 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,559 called it Mount Olympus. Well, when I eventually joined a fraternity, 432 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:54,519 and I was I joined late just to meet new 433 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,759 people and get new experiences and stuff, and I would 434 00:23:57,799 --> 00:23:59,000 go up there any of them, but I would also 435 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,680 go back down and sit down. 436 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:02,319 Speaker 1: Below too, Like I didn't. I didn't care. 437 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: It didn't matter to me. And that's what the press 438 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,960 course strikes me as. And one of the things about 439 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,119 being in those clicks is that you, you know, not 440 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,599 to say certain things because you don't want to jam 441 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:22,279 up your fellow clickmates right clickers, click i ins, click owens, 442 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,400 whatever like. You don't want to you don't want to 443 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,519 mess up the world and the vibe going on there. 444 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: By making the teacher mad at you. That's who they 445 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:33,920 remind me of. 446 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,559 Speaker 2: Really, now that I think about it, actually, I'm thinking 447 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,160 these are the kids that reminded the teacher that she 448 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:43,599 didn't assign us homework for the night. You know that kid, 449 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:50,079 That's who they remind me of. Brown nosers, thrown sniffers. 450 00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:53,720 There are other phrases that I shall refrain from using. 451 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,000 I mentioned Cheryl Atkinson, she said a quick story here 452 00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,799 about how government shutdowns in the theatric behind them work. 453 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,160 One year I was working at CBS News during a 454 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,640 shutdown I think twenty thirteen. We were sincerely searching for 455 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,960 real life impacts when we wouldn't find or couldn't find 456 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000 any that should have been part of the story. Instead, 457 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:15,400 we kept trying to create the appearance of an impact. 458 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:17,759 It wasn't really trying to be dishonest. It was, in 459 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:20,920 my retrospective view, because the general editorial idea for the 460 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,400 story was to show how bad the Republican shutdown was 461 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,000 for ordinary Americans, and the answer simply couldn't be that 462 00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:31,480 it wasn't. I've written quite a bit about this, but 463 00:25:31,559 --> 00:25:35,799 we as journalists too often decide the story in advance 464 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,079 and shape the facts to fit the narrative, rather than 465 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,960 gathering information and letting that tell the story whatever it 466 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,720 may be. Anyway, the Democrats were blaming Republicans for the shutdown, 467 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,759 so we were calling Democrats and the Obama administration for 468 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,480 ideas to report what was the real impact. Taking our queue, 469 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,160 those officials fabricated impacts that we could then report on. 470 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,440 For example, they cordoned off outdoor public monuments in Washington, DC. 471 00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:11,319 We knew and even discussed in the newsroom that this 472 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,119 made no sense. These monuments were not manned to begin with. 473 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,640 The only reason to cord them off from the public 474 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,440 was so that visiting tourists would see the impact of 475 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,920 the shutdowns, and then the news media would have something 476 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,240 to take pictures of and interview people about. There are 477 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,039 other examples, but this is the one I remember the most. 478 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,160 I remember that one too. Remember the World War Two 479 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,759 veterans on the flights where they run the fly veteran 480 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:38,599 World War Two vets up to see the World War 481 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,480 Two memorial and they had shut it down during one 482 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:45,039 of these shutdowns. They put up barriers and stuff, and 483 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:47,880 these World War Two vets are like, look, we store 484 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,559 them the beach at Normandy. Your barricades are not stopping us. 485 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:55,000 They just ripped them down. Insurrection, they ripped them down. 486 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:57,279 They just went in like you're not going to stop 487 00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:59,759 them from doing these are people think about how stupid 488 00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:03,000 they this is. If you don't, this may blow your mind. 489 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,960 If you never if you weren't aware of this, if 490 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,799 you aren't old enough to remember this, they literally close. 491 00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:13,319 They put up cones and barriers on the shoulder on 492 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,920 the side of a road where you could see Mount 493 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,400 Rushmore from People would pull over to the side of 494 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,920 the road on the shoulder and they would take pictures 495 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,880 of Mount Rushmore because it was a nice, big open 496 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,960 plains area and you could see the carvings in the mountain. 497 00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:32,240 And so the Park Service put up cones along that 498 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,000 road to prevent people from taking pictures. They put up 499 00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:39,319 This was hilarious one. Remember they put the like the 500 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,480 ropeline or whatever around Old Faithful the guyser, so you 501 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,960 couldn't so you couldn't go up next to it take 502 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,279 a picture of it. This is how stupid it was. 503 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,039 And then these stories were just pushed out. And this 504 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,079 was really before Twitter kind of came into it, so on. 505 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,799 Twitter had been around for a couple of years by 506 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:03,400 that point. But at this point, like you start seeing 507 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,599 these ridiculous photos as they're trying to make people hurt. 508 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:09,880 That was what they were doing. They were using the 509 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,799 shutdown to make people hurt for political advantage. And that's 510 00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:14,559 what Republicans are afraid of now. 511 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,319 Speaker 1: And that's why. 512 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: Look, if you just passed the clean CR, pass a 513 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,000 disaster relief bill, and you make everybody vote on them, 514 00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:25,960 and then we will know, and this will give Democrats 515 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,440 the opportunity to vote against a clean CR. 516 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: Or vote for it. 517 00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:30,759 Speaker 2: I like, if I was them in the House, I'd 518 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:34,799 vote for it and a disaster relief bill. If I'm 519 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:39,000 a Democrat in North Carolina, I'm voting for that. And 520 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:41,240 then you got Republicans that would probably vote against it 521 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,720 because it would be new debt one hundred billion dollars 522 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,400 that's not paid for, and they could vote against it, 523 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,440 but you would then have a bipartisan vote on that. 524 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,920 See here's the thing. When you split these things up 525 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,039 and you make people vote on the individual issue, this 526 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,319 is crazy, but they vote on the individual issue. 527 00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: I know it's crazy. All right. 528 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you, Thank you 529 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,160 so much for listening. 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