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<v Speaker 1>Good evening, all of the good nights of the Roundtable,

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<v Speaker 1>the Retinue, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Squire Core, if you will. What's going on? Everybody? Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to another edition of the Cage to Night Live.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, the Cage to Knight, Jacob Mook,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a few things to discuss here tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a few articles pulled up for some things

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<v Speaker 1>going on in America and around the world, but some

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<v Speaker 1>of the good members of this retinue have brought in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of other things to talk about. Now. We

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<v Speaker 1>have discussed that there is a supposed serial killer.

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<v Speaker 2>In New England.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about briefly the one in Texas, but Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>you were giving me a little bit of insight Zombie

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<v Speaker 1>was bringing up the one about Portland, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>actually had a little more insight on it. So what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly is going on as far as a serial killer

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<v Speaker 1>in Portland, Oregon?

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<v Speaker 3>So basically the way it started is some poor dummy

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<v Speaker 3>didn't do their research and was kayaking up here in

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<v Speaker 3>the Great Pacific Northwest at Monoma Falls and went over

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<v Speaker 3>the edge of Monoma Falls real quick?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that like a spot to kayak?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a hotspot? For kayakers and shit.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but it is a it is a very big

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<v Speaker 3>hiking spot. Okay, I mean Monoma Falls is a landmark

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<v Speaker 3>in the Portland area. Yeah yeah, so but there, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously there's a small river that feeds the waterfall. So

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<v Speaker 3>some guy went off the edge. Last I heard, they

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<v Speaker 3>still haven't found this guy's body, but they were combing

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<v Speaker 3>the Wilamotte River and the Columbia River. So for those

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<v Speaker 3>that aren't familiar with the I'm just gonna say edge

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<v Speaker 3>the Oregon Washington border. The Willamitt Rivers ever starts at

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<v Speaker 3>the Pacific Ocean and feeds about three quarters of the

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<v Speaker 3>way down the Oregon Washington border. Okay, Well, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Columbia River branches off from the Willamette River and goes

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<v Speaker 3>all the way down to like Salem, I think, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but right through downtown. So they're combing because they don't

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<v Speaker 3>know where this guy's body would have went, and they

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<v Speaker 3>found like nine in the river. Thus far me personally,

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<v Speaker 3>in my background, I'm surprised they've only found nine, especially

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<v Speaker 3>if they've gone anywhere anywhere near downtown Portland, because I've

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<v Speaker 3>had like five six people I know get found floating

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<v Speaker 3>in that river, so okay, uh, but yeah, that's I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't been paying too much, not overly attention, but just

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<v Speaker 3>the basics. The only couple things that stick out to

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<v Speaker 3>me that I'm waiting to hear about is one. So

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<v Speaker 3>far I've heard it. I've heard it's all dudes being found,

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<v Speaker 3>ok so, but I haven't heard if any smiley faces

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<v Speaker 3>are being found around the river. So I'm waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>that to see if somebody tries to say it's tied

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<v Speaker 3>to the Smiley Face killers and then what was the

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<v Speaker 3>other bit? Oh yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 1>These are these are recent bodies, Like these aren't like

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<v Speaker 1>floaters that are all bloated, been there for like six

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<v Speaker 1>months and they're just finding like these are recent murders.

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<v Speaker 3>The bodies have been so from everything I've seen in

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<v Speaker 3>granted I haven't done like super deep dives, just top

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<v Speaker 3>like looking at uh headlines and just just the basics. Yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's bodies they found over the last like week and

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<v Speaker 3>a half two weeks. I I honestly just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>heard about it yesterday because I don't like super watch

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<v Speaker 3>the news or anything. It just came across my feet somewhere.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, But I kind of pay attention to sechrenicities and

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<v Speaker 5>I found out about this the same day I found

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<v Speaker 5>out that in Damascus, Oregon, there is this temple to

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<v Speaker 5>Oculus and Nubis. Ye like, And I'm like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>saying there's a connection, but what I am saying is

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<v Speaker 5>two weird things in one day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't usually hit that, so I don't know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I sell that for that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I absolutely hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, the Oculus Anubis, I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>call it a temple. I'll call it like a compound, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because there is a temple on the land. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>multiple YouTube videos of people that snuck on the land,

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately there's not much answers as far as like

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<v Speaker 1>they know who started the construction on the place.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't exactly know why.

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<v Speaker 1>The original owners of the land and the dudes or

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<v Speaker 1>I say the dudes, the people, the family, the whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that we're building it to be very occult looking, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much quick construction. And there's rumors floating around that they

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<v Speaker 1>were involved in drug running and they got caught so

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<v Speaker 1>they just like stopped construction and it went up for

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<v Speaker 1>foreclosure and they went for sale. There's some that say

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<v Speaker 1>they just ran out of money and just stopped constructing

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<v Speaker 1>altogether for other reasons, and they just cut bait and

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<v Speaker 1>ran and sold it to the first person that would

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<v Speaker 1>give them a decent deal. I don't know, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Oculus and Nubis grounds in Oregon is that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>wild one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So twenty minutes the way I'm gonna find out this weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>Go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is private property if you do sneak on to

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<v Speaker 1>get some videos, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's at the back of a neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even like it's some big place and like

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<v Speaker 1>you could see it from the interstate, like it's legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>in the back end of this really upscale neighborhood and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a big gate at the front and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly what you're looking for until you're there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Raven, I see your hand raised and I

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<v Speaker 1>got the articles pulled up.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's actually down the street from where I grew up.

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<v Speaker 6>And we were just looking it up last night when

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<v Speaker 6>Anthony talked about it. And it says that it's it's

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<v Speaker 6>because it was an embezzlement scheme and that's why they

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<v Speaker 6>foreclosed it. And it's actually up for sale right now

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<v Speaker 6>on Zillow and you can actually like book to go

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<v Speaker 6>look at the property itself, because mom, because my family

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<v Speaker 6>can do that. They do really or stuff. And so

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<v Speaker 6>we were kind of like looking at all the property stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's on two hundred and forty second, so I'm

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<v Speaker 6>curious to see like what it actually but pretty much

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<v Speaker 6>what it says is I was an embezzlement scheme and

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<v Speaker 6>that they like were building it for just pretty much

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<v Speaker 6>their own stuff and that they that it closed down.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were trying to start their own religion on

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<v Speaker 1>their own land as a money laundering scheme and got caught.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've heard of.

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<v Speaker 4>What I wouldn't doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there was we had in Damascus, there was

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<v Speaker 6>a drug house on the main strip that got busted

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<v Speaker 6>and shut down and now they turn it into like

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<v Speaker 6>they have like a food food cart situation like next

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<v Speaker 6>to it, Like there's drugs are pretty prevalent, so like

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<v Speaker 6>for it to be a busted situation is not unheard of.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this one house not too far from me on

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<v Speaker 1>Old Perkins Road in Baton Rouge, and the house looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a Spanish villa, but it is now a United

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<v Speaker 1>Methodist church. The guy who built it was a big

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<v Speaker 1>time coke dealer, like for years and years and years,

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<v Speaker 1>then got busted.

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<v Speaker 2>His house was so big that a church was able

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<v Speaker 2>to take it and turn it into a church.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, yeah, I feel that there's all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>crazy stories like this, But all right, all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>sticking onto the whole serial killer and bodies being found

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<v Speaker 1>vibes and gonna go ahead and share the screen at

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<v Speaker 1>this time. I do want to apologize to everybody. For

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, I am not able to upload these videos

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<v Speaker 1>onto the Patreon. I don't know if it's because they

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<v Speaker 1>got corrupted in the saving. I don't know if because

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<v Speaker 1>this computer has been shitting the bed here in the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of weeks. I had to delete a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff and update some stuff, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if those video files are corrupted. So I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to apologize to everybody who is on the Patreon. Episodes

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen and seventeen. I have them saved, but I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>issues uploading them to the Patreon. I hope and pray

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<v Speaker 1>that the issues have been resolved to where this episode

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<v Speaker 1>can get uploaded in timely fashion. And I'm not giving up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna try to figure out what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with these but I just wanted to give everybody that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like I got lazy and forgot to upload.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not allowing me to so anyway. Anyway, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>actually have two different articles about these bodies being found

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<v Speaker 1>in the Portland area here. This one is from KGW eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe this is Yeah, it's an NBC subsidiary. Nine

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<v Speaker 1>bodies found in Portland area river since mid April. Officials

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<v Speaker 1>say seasonal spike is normal. The officials are saying that

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<v Speaker 1>nine bodies found in this area's rivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a seasonal spike. It's normal. Okay, that's Oregon's

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<v Speaker 2>just super cool, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities link the rise to warming water, which can cause

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<v Speaker 1>bodies to float, and more recreational activity on the rivers,

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<v Speaker 1>making the bodies more likely to be seen. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Maultinoma County, YEP. That's one of the most words. Nine

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<v Speaker 1>bodies have been pulled from rivers across the Portland metro

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<v Speaker 1>area since April thirteenth, a wave of discoveries that might

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<v Speaker 1>seem alarming, but, according to law enforcement, does not point

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<v Speaker 1>to anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the ordinary. Okay, word word. The most recent

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<v Speaker 2>case is of body recovered near Meldrum Bar Park on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>which the Clacamas Clackamas County Sheriffs I actually like that term,

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<v Speaker 2>the Clacamus County. That's what's up Sheriff's office later identified

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<v Speaker 2>as that of twenty year old Marcellus Angelo Rodriguez, a

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<v Speaker 2>California man who disappeared while kayaking near Williammette.

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<v Speaker 1>Falls on April twelfth. I think this is the one

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about earlier, Anthony. So I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>search for this guy led to the discoveries of the

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<v Speaker 1>other bodies. Meanwhile, the cops are like, well, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the spring. You'll have that nine bodies in three weeks. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be like that. Sometimes. Witnesses reported seeing him go

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<v Speaker 1>over the falls and not resurface. His kayak was later

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<v Speaker 1>found more than seven miles downstream near elk Rock Island.

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<v Speaker 2>Very original. The weekend also saw a flurry of recoveries

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<v Speaker 2>by the Moultinoma County Sheriff's Office. On Saturday, two bodies

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<v Speaker 2>were pulled from the Williamette River in Portland, one near

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<v Speaker 2>the Steel Bridge in the afternoon and another that washed

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<v Speaker 2>us shore at Cathedral Park that evening. Both were turned

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<v Speaker 2>over to the medical examiner for identification.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, raven, it's the Lammette River in Moltnomah County.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, let me the Maltinoma.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's Moltonomah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>You were saying you were You were not saying that.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's Multon It's it's not Multoma. It's Moltonomah, Moltonoma Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>And then will you met lam It? Oh, there's no

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<v Speaker 7>eye there will Lammet River.

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<v Speaker 2>My bad, Yeah, my bad.

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<v Speaker 1>My eyes are getting worse and worse by the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, My apologies there. We got zoomed in

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<v Speaker 1>The third body was recovered the same afternoon from the

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<v Speaker 1>The Sheriff's office said that the person was previously reported

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<v Speaker 1>May join five bodies found since April thirteenth, for a

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<v Speaker 1>total of nine bodies. I think their math be off here.

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<v Speaker 1>Five plus five doesn't all right whatever anyway, found in

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<v Speaker 1>the Portlandaria Rivers in just over three weeks. That includes

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<v Speaker 1>earlier cases near Swan Island, saw the Island Terminal four,

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden Island and Melodrum Bar Park. Official stress that while

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<v Speaker 1>that number may seem high, it falls within the normal

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<v Speaker 1>range for this time of year and is the rise

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<v Speaker 1>in recoveries is not linked to foul play.

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<v Speaker 2>Six bodies were recovered in April.

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<v Speaker 1>And May of twenty twenty four of the Sheriff's Office noted,

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<v Speaker 1>and this year's total is slightly higher, but still not

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you don't say.

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<v Speaker 1>As the temperatures increase, the gases start to release in

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<v Speaker 1>the body, which makes them float, said Battalion she if

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Barnum with the Lake Oswego Fire Department. I probably

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<v Speaker 1>mispronounced a swago a swego Asweego.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So as we increase in temperature of the water, so

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<v Speaker 2>Likely to spot and report what they see.

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<v Speaker 1>So, okay, they're not saying that the dead bodies are

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<v Speaker 1>out of the normal. They're just saying that the people

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<v Speaker 1>finding them at this time of year, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just that time of year where you find bodies. But

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<v Speaker 1>the number being found is pretty run of the mill

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<v Speaker 1>for Portland, Oregon area, Okay. According to the Sheriff's office,

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of these deaths appear to be axilon drownings

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<v Speaker 1>or suicides, though the medical examiner has not released official

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<v Speaker 1>findings yet. None of the cases are believed to be

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So as.

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<v Speaker 1>Far as a potential serial killer on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>loose for these potential vicars or just these deaths, according

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<v Speaker 1>to officials, doesn't seem like they're connected, but who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows? They have just started finding them in the

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<v Speaker 2>past three weeks. With that being said, though, six women

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<v Speaker 2>found dead in near six women found dead in Near

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon in less than three months, most in secluded wooded areas. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so now we're going a little different here. Okay. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>see six women, most with connections to.

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<v Speaker 1>The Greater Portland area and all under the age of forty,

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<v Speaker 1>have been found dead within one hundred miles of each

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<v Speaker 1>about the six deaths but can only speak about the

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is where all these bodies were discovered as

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<v Speaker 1>according to the map, and as we're talking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody would like to see what we are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about rather than just hear about it, Yes, this episode

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be playing on the Cult of Conspiracy podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday. But we are trying to grow this retinue.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to grow the Cajun Night community, and so

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<v Speaker 1>if you would like to join this, please come check

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<v Speaker 1>out the Patreon. It's down in links below Cajun Night

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<v Speaker 1>on patreon dot com. So anyway, okay, this map right quick,

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred miles diameter here, and yeah, I see

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<v Speaker 1>these being way more close and way more connected. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about this one. This very well, maybe just

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<v Speaker 1>an outlier, I don't know. But even still, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me they've got with nine or ten because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they mistyped or if their math is wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but five plus five doesn't equal nine in my book.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, so we've got nine to ten male deaths

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<v Speaker 1>in the Portland area and six women deaths in the

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<v Speaker 1>Portland area, all within the last few weeks and months,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just kind of saying this is par for

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<v Speaker 2>Please Raven help me out here.

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<v Speaker 6>So the girl article that I sent you is from

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<v Speaker 6>last year, and that is connected. They think to a

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<v Speaker 6>guy that was released from jail that I've already killed

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<v Speaker 6>people and they suspect him being a serial killer. They

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<v Speaker 6>actually haven't formally charged him with any of these murders,

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<v Speaker 6>but they believe that he was a serial killer. The

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<v Speaker 6>nine bodies is another situation that's happening that is kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like people are debating if they potentially could be

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<v Speaker 6>a serial killer or if the bodies were just people

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<v Speaker 6>killing themselves because they're high on drugs or whatever else.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, to be fair, we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>People die easily in the water, and yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 8>cooler than shit, so people die all the time in

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<v Speaker 8>the waters up there, but they're kind of being treating

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<v Speaker 8>it like a mess.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's like two separate cases of a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of people. And the one though that you're reading right now,

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<v Speaker 6>they think, like the police were, like, we think it

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<v Speaker 6>could be the guy being a serial killer, but we

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<v Speaker 6>don't know for sure, and like we released him. So

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<v Speaker 6>it doesn't say that in that article. I actually found

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<v Speaker 6>it in other articles. But Okay, that's kind of where

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<v Speaker 6>those two separate things are coming into play.

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<v Speaker 1>So granted, I'm from Louisiana, you know, I've lived around

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<v Speaker 1>I've lived all over the country. At different parts of

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<v Speaker 1>my life, and so I understand that different regions experience

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<v Speaker 1>different levels of what they call normal, And with all.

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<v Speaker 2>Due respects, I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Okay, for instance, saying that there was three killings

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago this past weekend is not crazy, that's not random,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of par for the course. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that Oregon having people just being found dead on Mass

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as the water's warm up. Was that normal

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<v Speaker 1>now for anybody who is from that area, Anthony Raven

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<v Speaker 1>and anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>It may have two cents on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying that's normal for like, Okay, drownings, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>Kayakers who kind of get lost or capsize.

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<v Speaker 2>Or whatever the case. I can put the pieces together

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<v Speaker 2>on this. Whenever it's seen as normal every spring when

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<v Speaker 2>they just find bodies, is foul play usually associated with these?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are these all?

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's that many accidents on Mass throughout the winter

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<v Speaker 1>to where it's like womp wamp.

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<v Speaker 2>It just be like that, like, what's the situation here?

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<v Speaker 2>Not that I know?

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<v Speaker 6>If I just said, mom, and she's born and raised there,

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<v Speaker 6>and she or not born and raised, but she'd lived

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<v Speaker 6>there for many, many decades and she says, not that

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<v Speaker 6>you know, she's aware of. And I can't remember a

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<v Speaker 6>time like, yes, do people drown a lot? Yes, that

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<v Speaker 6>is very common. So like when it starts warming up,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of people from out of town will come

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<v Speaker 6>in and they won't really listen to the warnings that

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<v Speaker 6>the water is freezing and cold, but there's like some

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<v Speaker 6>issues going on with the water, and they'll get in

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<v Speaker 6>the water and they'll drown. It's super common. But I

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<v Speaker 6>can't think of a time when like bodies are just

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<v Speaker 6>like popping up out of nowhere, like left and right.

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<v Speaker 4>People die a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>I also give you that because of like you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the yeah they jump off the bridges, the inner city crime,

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<v Speaker 6>the drugs and all that stuff. Sure, but like just

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<v Speaker 6>randomly nine bodies floating up, not that I can think

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<v Speaker 6>of in recent you know, last couple of decades.

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<v Speaker 1>So and Anthony please chime in on this one here.

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<v Speaker 1>So the cops playing this off like it's no big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this what are we feeling as far as this

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<v Speaker 1>is concern? Is this them just trying to not raise

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<v Speaker 1>alarm or suspicion. Is this something that really does happen

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<v Speaker 1>and more frequently maybe in the past five years maybe

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<v Speaker 1>instead of the last like thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, is this Why are the cops acting

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<v Speaker 2>like this is no big deal?

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<v Speaker 3>So the number so for me, the the the amount.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm torn right especially going on, especially going along

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<v Speaker 3>the Columbia, there are so many easy access points where

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<v Speaker 3>atrocious acts could be committed and no one's going to

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<v Speaker 3>hear you scream.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when you say that is it's because we are

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<v Speaker 1>just so deep in the Oregon Trail bush there's just

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<v Speaker 1>no civilization for miles or are you saying that, like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, it can it can literally be. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of overpasses by the river.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah okay, a lot of uh bridge trolls and homeless

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<v Speaker 2>folk I feel you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and uh yeah, We're just gonna leave it at there.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of spaces, especially along the along

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<v Speaker 3>the Columbia River from Portland to the to the Atlama,

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't have to go that far out to

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<v Speaker 3>be completely secluded.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Like my my personal growing up, I know six seven

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<v Speaker 3>people that quote unquote were found in the river, so

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<v Speaker 3>things happen. But the nine to ten guys, the six

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<v Speaker 3>women that that pans out as far as like the

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<v Speaker 3>deaths go to that, Like Portland has such a homeless

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<v Speaker 3>population that a lot of a lot of the deaths

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<v Speaker 3>really just get wrapped up into overdoses or they're just.

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<v Speaker 2>Not talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm not gonna say Portland's Chicago or or La.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but also their homeless population.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I would from what I have

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<v Speaker 1>heard and read, Portland, Oregon's homeless population could damn near

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<v Speaker 1>rival LA's homeless population. Maybe not in numbers, but in violence,

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<v Speaker 1>in drugs, in rapes and crimes and all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago has a homeless population, Yeah, but the homeless aren't

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<v Speaker 1>who you're worried about in Chiraq, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But like apparently in Portland in LA, that's a different conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And I grew up in that crowd, Like so

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<v Speaker 3>I skid.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's no longer just one street, you feel me,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like twenty square blocks these days.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's yeah, but uh, there's also still that

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<v Speaker 3>part of me where it's like they only found nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Really. Yeah, So that's the other thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>These nine are these and I'm sure there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>more come out with the investigation. Are these suspected suicides

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<v Speaker 1>or overdoses, accidental or otherwise people that got lost in

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<v Speaker 1>the trail, people that were set upon under one of

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<v Speaker 1>these overpasses, Like you're saying only nine, thinking that like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a low number, so we're expecting that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find more as like the water warms up even more.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be surprised if if they did it. I

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<v Speaker 3>just I know, I know the things that are in

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<v Speaker 3>that river, or I have a very good idea based

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<v Speaker 3>on on people I grew up around heard that, so

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<v Speaker 3>uh you know, I mean we'll see. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like the the men being found in the river, like

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<v Speaker 3>that's only one detail short of fitting another another stereo,

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<v Speaker 3>another m O. And it wouldn't with Portland, and it

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<v Speaker 3>would It wouldn't surprise me if a couple of people

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<v Speaker 3>uh fell into that mm hmmm, that personally wouldn't me.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh well, no, I said, like I say, fell into

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<v Speaker 3>that because like granted, I'm into the dark shit.

439
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<v Speaker 2>Like I I, but.

440
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<v Speaker 3>I grew up in the Abyss, so it takes a lot.

441
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<v Speaker 4>But Portland will throw you, throw you.

442
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<v Speaker 3>In it and people that aren't ready for you. I

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<v Speaker 3>can I can see people falling for uh media to

444
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<v Speaker 3>use a broad term, yeah, like uh like, uh, what's

445
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<v Speaker 3>his name? Like William Ramsey ties the Order of nine

446
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<v Speaker 3>angles to the Smiley Face Killers. I'm not going to

447
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<v Speaker 3>say whether that's legit or not. I've talked to a

448
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<v Speaker 3>couple of those guys and they're weird, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about like serial killer weird. But hey, that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the Cult of Conspiracy needs to do

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<v Speaker 1>an episode on the Smiley Faced Killers one of these days.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I'm yeah. I mean I don't feel

453
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<v Speaker 3>like this is the avenue for it, but I mean,

454
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<v Speaker 3>I mean I could plug you with a.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy who used to be a member.

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<v Speaker 3>You mean, who is a current member?

457
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<v Speaker 2>Really?

458
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<v Speaker 3>I mean he might not want to, but I can ask.

459
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, worst case scenario, he says no, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't keep He's on YouTube and he says that

461
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<v Speaker 1>he's a member.

462
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now that makes it feel like he's fake.

463
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<v Speaker 3>I mean I talked to the guy. Look, he's not

464
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<v Speaker 3>putting out the deep dark secrets, but I mean he's

465
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<v Speaker 3>an interesting fella.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right you talking to him before? Now is

467
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<v Speaker 2>this how close is it to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>That came out about them a while back, like their

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<v Speaker 1>big thing is to not be a victim, Like that

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<v Speaker 1>was their big thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like if you play like you're a victim, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be one.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was mostly about taking responsibility for yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>somehow murdering random people was like a part of it,

475
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<v Speaker 1>but it was never random. There was like not contract killers,

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<v Speaker 1>but there seemed to be like there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of moving parts.

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<v Speaker 2>Before they picked a victim.

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<v Speaker 1>How close are these smiley faced people to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the show that came out about them?

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<v Speaker 3>So look, so first off, from personal experience, I I

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<v Speaker 3>I have to separate that I cannot say that all

483
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<v Speaker 3>nine are are s FK, but I can't deny that

484
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<v Speaker 3>there might be. There is probably satanic influence in people

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<v Speaker 3>who commit s FK.

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<v Speaker 1>They may not call a satanic influence, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>agree with the statement you just said for the record.

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<v Speaker 2>They may call it something else.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, well, and there's different divisions, like there's different denominations.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know enough to I can't really go about

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<v Speaker 3>it beyond that you said nine a order of nine angles, Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean they're definitely satanic. They definitely fall under

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of what I was talking about when we

494
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<v Speaker 3>did that Left Hand Path episode. Yeah, I mean, honestly,

495
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<v Speaker 3>I was just the type that I'm just the type

496
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<v Speaker 3>if somebody, if somebody's talking enough shit, I'm gonna go

497
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<v Speaker 3>check it out. And that's kind of what I've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing for like the last six seven months. Like I'm

499
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<v Speaker 3>gonna go, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go talk to the villains. Because I'm halfway there myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that, Okay, but yeah, no, but getting back

502
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<v Speaker 3>to the serial killers and and the bodies, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I I like any other police department, they don't

504
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<v Speaker 3>want to scare the public with, oh there's a serial

505
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<v Speaker 3>killer on the loose. So I mean unless a reporter

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<v Speaker 3>or somebody finds a link to all of them and

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<v Speaker 3>it gets leaked to the point where they have to

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<v Speaker 3>say it. Even if there is uh, they will.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They went into the last minute for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I mean, like I mean, I was I

512
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<v Speaker 3>was in like when I was in prison. There there

513
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<v Speaker 3>was a guy that it's called the spring Water Corridor.

514
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 3>It's like this biking walking trail that goes all the

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<v Speaker 3>way from one end of Portland to it to the

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<v Speaker 3>other end like deep, like it's like starts and like

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<v Speaker 3>Sandine goes all the way over into Hillsboro. Well, in

518
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<v Speaker 3>the portion in southeast Portland, that one that runs through

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00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Felony Flat, there was a string of a string of

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<v Speaker 3>rapes that happened to no rapes that happened to women.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not on YouTube, homie, you can use proper english here.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget, I forget. Okay, Well here's my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's an actual group of killers that are in

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<v Speaker 1>this area, why are they not just picking off the

525
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<v Speaker 1>homeless population and trying to elevate the city as a whole. Now, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go on some big hay ud

527
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<v Speaker 1>spill towards the homeless or the dishomed or whatever they

528
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<v Speaker 1>want to call themselves these days, the unhowled or whatever.

529
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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's got their shit. Some people fell on hard times

530
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<v Speaker 1>and ended up there. Some people are there by choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not here to judge, trust me, I have

532
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<v Speaker 1>none to give.

533
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<v Speaker 2>But if that's the case, why don't they just like

534
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<v Speaker 2>they could sacrifice so many to these deities there's that

535
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<v Speaker 2>the fields are a plenty.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna counter that point Okay, if if you're

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going we're all into the dark art right now? Okay,

538
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<v Speaker 3>right discussion, Say, yeah, what sacrifice is going to mean more?

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<v Speaker 3>The quote unquote nobody's sleeping under a bridge, right, or

540
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<v Speaker 3>the do good citizen that is, you know, quote unquote

541
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<v Speaker 3>doing the right thing like a person of God, a

542
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<v Speaker 3>pillar of the community type of what sacrifice is going

543
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<v Speaker 3>to mean more?

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<v Speaker 1>But could you like, could three nobodies equate to one somebody, five, ten?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how the spiritual uh scales can be

547
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<v Speaker 1>turned on this or if that even equates, But I

548
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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know.

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00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's a better way.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't disagree, but there's levels, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>And like this is is this isn't even just in

553
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<v Speaker 3>you know, quote unquote human sacrifice, right, you know, but

554
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 3>just just in general, like I mean, granted I'm Pagan,

555
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 3>but you know, if you want something like if you

556
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<v Speaker 3>I know, Christians don't really sacrifice in that sense, in

557
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.200
<v Speaker 3>that sense, right, but like if if you if you

558
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<v Speaker 3>really want something from God, right, you might like during

559
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<v Speaker 3>lend if you're a Catholic and forgive me if I'm

560
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 3>using the wrong terms. You're you'll understand what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to say. You might give something up equal meaning to

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<v Speaker 3>receive that gift.

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<v Speaker 1>You're You're not far off based on that, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>all I was gonna say. Christian, not just Catholics, but Christians,

565
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>when we sacrifice, it's not sacrificing a living entity.

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<v Speaker 2>It's usually sacrificing.

567
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 1>And denying our flesh something and that's a form of sacrifice.

568
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:26.599
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I see what you mean on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you wouldn't just sacrifice like like to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm giving up something.

571
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<v Speaker 1>I'm fasting for instance, Right, let's say I'm fasting from uh,

572
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<v Speaker 1>I'm fasting from Popeyes for the next six months to

573
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<v Speaker 1>get closer to God. Yeah, well, how often do you

574
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<v Speaker 1>eat Popeyes on a regular basis?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, that's not giving up? So I see what you're saying.

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00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 1>You would give up something or sacrifice something that is

577
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>really important to you.

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00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise it's I see what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So slaughtering a bunch of homeless people to Molek

580
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do well for Molek. He wouldn't he wouldn't want

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00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>those sacrifices. I feel you well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would also refer you to what Jacob talked

583
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<v Speaker 3>about when I forget if it was on the colder

584
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 3>on Meta mysteries. He had that demonologist guy, right, and

585
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 3>the demon wants chickens, and he gave him a couple

586
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:17.759
<v Speaker 3>of what cornish game hens or whatever. Yeah, and he

587
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<v Speaker 3>said the demon was like not like similar, like as

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<v Speaker 3>much as I hate like, as much as I hate

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<v Speaker 3>to say similar comparison like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I feel this, Okay, okay, so fair enough,

591
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<v Speaker 1>the homeless are safe from being slaughtered for pagan or

592
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<v Speaker 1>not pagan, excuse me for satanic or dark arts worship.

593
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<v Speaker 2>So all right, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, that means that the good in the world are vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is why we should all be carrying. Ladies and gentlemen. Please,

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00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.160
<v Speaker 2>if you do not have a weapon, do like Jesus said,

597
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.440
<v Speaker 2>sell your cloak and buy one. But anyway, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, So I talked a little bit about these

599
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.079
<v Speaker 1>killers and things. Now, I did have a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things I wanted to bring up tonight, and we're going

601
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<v Speaker 1>to run through those and if we get done with

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<v Speaker 1>all the things I have, and we wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the chat. I see there's more articles that

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00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 1>have been shared, then we will in fact get to them.

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<v Speaker 1>So now let's just talk a little bit. Staying on

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<v Speaker 1>the American continent here, Elon must says he's stepping back

607
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<v Speaker 1>from DOGE.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anybody's heard about what's going on

610
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<v Speaker 1>here recently, but yeah, Elon has said that he's done

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<v Speaker 1>his job as far as he is concerned. The DOGE

612
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>organization is still going to be blowing and going. But

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<v Speaker 1>Elon himself, he's got other businesses to run. He's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get to Mars, He's trying to build better ais

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<v Speaker 1>and things.

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<v Speaker 2>So he himself is going to be stepping away from DOGE.

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<v Speaker 1>The key points here Elon says he's stepping back from

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<v Speaker 1>the White House DOGE office in May. Must says it

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<v Speaker 1>will allow him to focus more on Tesla. Tesla has

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<v Speaker 1>struggled amid the backlash too Musk's service in President Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's administration. So after spending three months trying to radically

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<v Speaker 1>reshape the federal government and its workforce, Elon Musk on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday said he would soon be stepping back from the.

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<v Speaker 2>White House's DOZE office starting next month.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a direct quote by the way, I will

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<v Speaker 1>be allocating far more of my time to Tesla, he

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<v Speaker 1>said in a Tesla earnings call, adding that the major

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<v Speaker 1>work of establishing the Department of Government Efficiency was done.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he will continue to spend a day or

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<v Speaker 1>two a week, spend a day or two a week

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<v Speaker 1>that makes no sense on government matters, as long as

632
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<v Speaker 1>it is useful and the President wants him to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla stock jumped up about five percent in after hours

634
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<v Speaker 1>trading after Musk announced the plans.

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<v Speaker 2>To reduce his role with Doze.

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<v Speaker 1>The announcement came on the heels of a disappointing quarterly

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<v Speaker 1>report for the company, which has struggled in the month

638
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<v Speaker 1>since Musk began advising President Trump.

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00:35:57.880 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Before Tuesday, Tesla stock was.

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00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Down forty four percent this year, and its first quarter

641
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:08.119
<v Speaker 1>sales came in way under expectations. Well, you know you'll

642
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>have that because I don't know, I personally don't understand

643
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 1>the whole craze about everybody wanting a Tesla. I think

644
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's overhyped. It's an electric vehicle. When the battery pack

645
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 1>goes out on you, not if, but when you have

646
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>to replace the battery pack, which is I think two

647
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>thirds of the cost of the car. And I even

648
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>know a guy, and I've talked about this on the

649
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:33.039
<v Speaker 1>cult before, I know a guy personally who bought a Tesla.

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00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I forget which model, excuse me for not knowing it,

651
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 1>but whatever it was, it was like a thirty thirty

652
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.760
<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars car something like that, and it was

653
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 1>a five year note.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine. Cool.

655
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:48.079
<v Speaker 1>He had to replace the entire battery pack on this thing,

656
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>which for the record is basically the entire chassis. Okay,

657
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>he had to replace this three years into owning this vehicle.

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00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>You know how much that cost?

659
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Twenty two thousand dollars before be or he even got

660
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 1>the car paid off, he owed and ended up upside

661
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 1>down because of having a Tesla. Now, I don't know

662
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.320
<v Speaker 1>if they have fixed the issues with those lithium ion

663
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>batteries and they're more you know, sustainable.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I just don't believe.

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00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 1>So lithium ion is the quote unquote best mass produced

666
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>battery we have currently, but it's not exactly like it's

667
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 1>the best ever ever. I still I don't understand why

668
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>we're not putting more weight into graphene batteries. The technology

669
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:33.159
<v Speaker 1>is there, the studies are there. Somehow we're still messing

670
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>with lithium ion when graphene is right there. You know

671
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>how easy graphight is to find.

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00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Graphene is hard to make quote unquote because it's just

673
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<v Speaker 2>time consuming and painstaking to make it. It's not dangerous.

674
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>There's so harmful chemicals. There's no it's nothing like that.

675
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>Under Musk's unofficial leadership, Dose has targeted a wide swath

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<v Speaker 1>of federal agencies for cuts, including dismantling the US Agency

678
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 1>for Internetational Development while that would be the US AID,

679
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 1>while attempting to gain access to sensitive data and payment

680
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>systems at the IRS and Treasury Department, and trying to

681
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>shut down the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which yeah, y'all

682
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>remember that everybody was so mad that he was trying

683
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to get everybody's tax information. It's like, bro, he's a

684
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>billionaire who owns a tech company. He could have hacked

685
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the US Treasury Department at any point if he wanted.

686
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 1>What do you think he's gonna do with your social

687
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:31.079
<v Speaker 1>and your credit card numbers? Elon the one of if

688
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:34.119
<v Speaker 1>not the current richest man on earth is he's trying

689
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to pull the biggest heights on Earth and just rob

690
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 1>every citizen in America. Sure, sure, that's a thought, one

691
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.599
<v Speaker 1>of the most thoughts that anyone's ever had, some might say.

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00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Musk has also helped Trump get the federal workforce through

693
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:54.519
<v Speaker 1>the buyout offers to government employees, mass firings of probationary workers,

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<v Speaker 1>and downsizing of agencies like the National Institutes of Health.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite its large scale.

696
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Targeting of federal agencies and workers, DOGE has not yet

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00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>come close to its savings goal. Musk first promised that

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00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>his sweeping Doze cuts with save taxpayers two trillion dollars,

699
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>but later downgraded that to one trillion, and further again

700
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.320
<v Speaker 1>to one hundred and fifty billion dollars. Look, it's savings.

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00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It's savings, right, Maybe not two trillion. I would really

702
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>like to see that number be a realistic thing. But okay,

703
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 1>he saved the taxpayers one point or one hundred and

704
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>fifty billion.

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00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:33.039
<v Speaker 2>That's nice. I feel like we can cut more.

706
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, DOZE has claimed savings have been riddled with

707
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 1>mistakes and corrections, including removing four billion dollars from its

708
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:45.079
<v Speaker 1>wall of receipts in March, dropping its real estate savings

709
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 1>by one hundred and fifty million later that month, and

710
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 1>lowering its savings claims by over nine billion dollars over

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00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.639
<v Speaker 1>a two over two days in February. Musk's involvement with

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00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Doze was never meant to be permanent. As a special

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<v Speaker 1>government employee, he is not allowed to serve more than

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00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and thirty days in a three hundred and

715
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 1>sixty five day period.

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00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I know everybody was super worried.

717
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 1>That Musk it was gonna be basically puppeteering Trump or

718
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:14.159
<v Speaker 1>vice versa, and that they were gonna be running the

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00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>world together. In all of this, I know there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of very upset liberals to see Musk

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00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>go back to making cars and rockets and not be

722
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>in the back pocket of Trump. I know they're just

723
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna be so disheartened to hear that they were wrong

724
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>yet again.

725
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>But here we are.

726
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:34.280
<v Speaker 1>It's only been a few months and he's already like, yeah, well,

727
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I did my job. I got the computer nerds that

728
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:39.039
<v Speaker 1>are gonna keep pumping AI to the systems to find

729
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the fallacies. But as far as me, I gotta go.

730
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I got money to make, so I mean, hey, I

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00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 1>get it under Trump's original executive order the DOJE office

732
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>can run through July fourth, twenty twenty six, and the

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the nation's independence. Many

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<v Speaker 1>of dose's top leaders are linked to Musk's companies. It's

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<v Speaker 1>unclear whether they'll also be scaling back their presence at Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So elon stepping away from DOGE. I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody has any uh, negative thoughts on this, positive thoughts

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00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>on this neutral, but I kind of see this as

739
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 1>a good thing. I'm personally on board with it. I

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00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>see Musk as a chaotic neutral one hundred percent. I

741
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>see it as a chaotic neutral. He is one step

742
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 1>away from being a super villain that nobody can stop.

743
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 1>He's also one step away from saving the world, and

744
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>nobody could stop him. He's he's floating in the middle,

745
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 1>just kind of doing elon things.

746
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

747
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 1>He's like the ultimate weaponized artist. And I again not

748
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 1>mad at that. He's got his role to play. So

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00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think he did a good job. He

750
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.639
<v Speaker 1>shook things up, and now that he's going back to

751
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>making money and continuing his Tesla and SpaceX and all

752
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>these things, I still wouldn't be shocked. I know some

753
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.280
<v Speaker 1>people disagree with me on this because some people believe

754
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that space is fake.

755
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 2>I am still of the belief that space is a.

756
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Real thing, and his biggest goal has been to get

757
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:14.519
<v Speaker 1>to Mars. I still believe that that's his actual goal.

758
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's going to achieve that goal

759
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>or not. But I also wouldn't be shocked if sometime

760
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>in the next ten years if a SpaceX rocket with

761
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 1>human beings doesn't land on Mars. Like when that happens,

762
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna be like earth shattering news to me.

763
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.039
<v Speaker 1>I see it as like an inevitability at this point.

764
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 1>But I know people disagree with that. They people believe

765
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>what they believe on that. All right, now, let's talk

766
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 1>about this guy. This guy right here now report FBI

767
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:57.159
<v Speaker 1>agent Elvis Chan. Elvis Chan, I think the name is hilarious,

768
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 1>key figure in the twenty twenty election sense scheme placed

769
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 1>on terminal leave. Now, does anybody remember the twenty twenty

770
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>election censorship information, the big scandal that went down with

771
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:17.079
<v Speaker 1>that Hunter Bayer's laptop, Trump being in cahoots with Russia,

772
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Russian collusion, Oh my god, all these all these wild

773
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>claims and for some reason, the FBI was complicit in

774
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 1>trying to screw over Trump at every conceivable urn.

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00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:33.639
<v Speaker 2>That'd be because of your boy, Elvis Chan. So he

776
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about this here.

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00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge, Elvis Chan, one of

778
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:46.119
<v Speaker 1>the central figures in the federal government's censorship and conservation yeah,

779
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:49.519
<v Speaker 1>censorship of conservative voices during the twenty twenty presidential election,

780
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.639
<v Speaker 1>has reportedly been placed on terminal leave. The development was

781
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.679
<v Speaker 1>first reported by independent journalist Brianna Morella. Chan, who served

782
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:02.039
<v Speaker 1>as the FBI's key liaison between the Foreign Influence Task

783
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Force and big tech companies like Twitter, Facebook, and Google,

784
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>was instrumental in a government led censorship campaign to silence

785
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:15.079
<v Speaker 1>conservative voices and suppress damaging information about Hunter Biden in

786
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:19.519
<v Speaker 1>the lead up to the election. It's no longer a hypothetical.

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00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It's no longer ah. Well, you know, they the all

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00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 1>the encompassing day quote unquote, They were just trying to

789
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>screw Trump over and over.

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00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Buh.

791
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's not that he was a sore loser about

792
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.519
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty election, noe. This guy was the liaison

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<v Speaker 1>from the FBI to Twitter, Facebook, and Google.

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00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 2>And let's not forget that Zuckerberg has come out and

795
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:43.920
<v Speaker 2>said that he was told by three letter agencies to

796
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.800
<v Speaker 2>censor information. He came out and said to the world

797
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>that he was guilty of it. He apologized, but he

798
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 2>absolutely did this.

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00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 1>We know for a fact Google did this as well,

800
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and Twitter before it was owned by Elon was absolutely

801
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 1>censoring information and pushing certain algorithms. Is it crazy to

802
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:02.639
<v Speaker 1>see that a Chinese guy?

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00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh? Uh oh?

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00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Is it crazy to see that a Chinese dude working

805
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>for the FBI was at the center of all of that. Okay,

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00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, maybe I'm just maybe I'm just thinking too

807
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>heavily into this. Morello's citing sources familiar with chan situation,

808
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 1>reports that the longtime San Francisco based agent has not

809
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.719
<v Speaker 1>accessed any of his government devices for over a month.

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00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Chance still lists himself as the Assistant Special Agent in

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<v Speaker 1>Charge on his LinkedIn page, which includes preferred pronounce he

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00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:38.639
<v Speaker 1>him because you look at this guy, and it's obvious

813
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:42.119
<v Speaker 1>that we need to know what would pronounce.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes by yeah anyway, So that's that's one of

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00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 2>the things there.

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00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>House Judiciary Committee filed a lawsuit against FBI Assistant Special

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<v Speaker 1>Agent in Charge Evis Chan last year for refusing to

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00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>comply with a Congressional subpoena tied to the twenty twenty

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00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>election censorship scandal. The lawsuit, filed in the US District

820
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Court for the District of Columbia, lays out damning allegations

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<v Speaker 1>that Chan, acting as the FBI's liaison with big tech

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<v Speaker 1>forums like Facebook and Twitter, played a central role in

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government's backdoor scheme to center America's online before

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<v Speaker 1>our sinsor Americans.

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00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Online before the twenty twenty presidential election.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite being subpoena by Congress to testify, Chan, under orders

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<v Speaker 1>from Biden's Department of Justice, refused to appear so the

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00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Biden administration strip told him not to show up. Why

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<v Speaker 1>Because Congress wouldn't allow the DOJ lawyers to sit in

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00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and monitor the interview. Yes, the DOJ wants to babysit

831
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<v Speaker 1>its agents during congressional investigations, undermining the House's constitutional oversight authority.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Complaint, Chan was a pivotal figure passing information from the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI to social media companies in the months leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to the election, information that often led to the silencing

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<v Speaker 1>of viewpoints inconvenient to the ruling regime I e. The

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration. According to Morello, Chan also testified in the

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<v Speaker 1>landmark case Missouri versus Biden, a case in which Jim

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00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Hoft or which I Jim Hoft am a Plainton, where

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00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 1>he conveniently claimed to have no internal knowledge of the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI's role in pressuring tech companies to censor the explosive

842
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Hunter Biden laptop story. So he testified saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>had no internal knowledge, and now he is being fired

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<v Speaker 1>for being a key component.

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<v Speaker 2>With the Biden laptop.

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<v Speaker 1>So this would be what we would call perjury, ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen, which is a federal crime. The landmark case

848
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Missouri versus Biden centers on explosive evidence shown in the

849
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Biden administration's coordinated campaign to pressure big tech platforms into

850
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>censoring dissenting voices.

851
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 2>I was signed out in.

852
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>The ruling for my aggressive reporting on election integrity, election

853
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 1>fraud COVID nineteen, and government overreach. The court noted that

854
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the Gateway Pundit, which is the article that I'm reading,

855
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 1>by the way, for anybody who's curious, was deep platform

856
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>from Twitter in a series of suspensions throughout January February

857
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:11.199
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, culminating in a permanent ban after publishing

858
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>surveillance footage from Detroit on election night in twenty twenty.

859
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:18.320
<v Speaker 1>The footage showed suspicious delivery vans arriving at a vote

860
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>counting center in the early hours. Yes, for anybody that's curious,

861
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you remember hearing that these vans showed up and just

862
00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.039
<v Speaker 1>had bags after bags after bags of these mail in

863
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>ballots and all of them, every single one of them

864
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>were voted Democrat.

865
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:35.800
<v Speaker 2>All of them were voted for Biden.

866
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>And it was in these weird cities that have a

867
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of mafia ties. There have been other mafia members

868
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.519
<v Speaker 1>that have come forward later on and said that, yeah,

869
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>we absolutely rigged the election because that's.

870
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 2>What we do.

871
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>This guy reported on it and he was blasted. Now

872
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the guy who lied about it all is being found

873
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>out and asked to leave, which is great. The report

874
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 1>also documented that YouTube removed Gateway Pundit content related to

875
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 1>voter integrity, and that Facebook repeatedly censored its posts about

876
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen and the twenty twenty election, using warning labels

877
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.119
<v Speaker 1>and algorithmic throttling to suppress reach.

878
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely have no doubts on any of this.

879
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:19.039
<v Speaker 1>So it says the court found that the Biden administration,

880
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.079
<v Speaker 1>in a in coordination with federal agencies and social media giants,

881
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 1>repeatedly suppressed views related to the Hunter Biden laptop scandal,

882
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen lockdowns, and vaccine skepticism.

883
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Mask mandates the twenty.

884
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Twenty elections Integrity Party content targeting the administration absolutely absolutely

885
00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>agree on this.

886
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, this is absolutely another thing that is going

887
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:48.519
<v Speaker 2>on in our world today.

888
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:52.000
<v Speaker 1>We have all of the things that the conspiracy community,

889
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the truther community was saying for years has now been

890
00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 1>confirmed to be true.

891
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.360
<v Speaker 2>There's no two ways about it. This is the facts

892
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 2>of the matter, all right. Before I read into the

893
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 2>next article, because the next one is going to take

894
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:12.079
<v Speaker 2>us away from the United States, let me see what

895
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:13.840
<v Speaker 2>else we have over here.

896
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania House passes recreational marijuana legalization. I didn't know the

897
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Keystone State had legalized, Old Mary Jane.

898
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Good for them.

899
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's a random article about the Temple of the

900
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Oculus and Nubis.

901
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:32.119
<v Speaker 2>One. Yeah, yes, indeed, yes, indeed.

902
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:35.199
<v Speaker 1>All right, So Raven says, as far as Elon goes,

903
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>she does not like him or trust him.

904
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Just has those vibes. I get it.

905
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 1>I get it, and I sound like I even like

906
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 1>necessarily defending or going against him necessarily. I just see

907
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>him as a weird, chaotic neutral. Let's see, I'm a felon.

908
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm stuck old school blades and bows, Anthony. I feel

909
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that Merlin sent a picture of a Knights templar looking

910
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>dude with an old musket.

911
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:02.679
<v Speaker 2>Yo, I feel that. I feel that.

912
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the the day and age may have changed,

913
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:10.599
<v Speaker 1>and so have the weapons, but the the intent, you know,

914
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I say, it's still there in some cases, So absolutely

915
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:20.519
<v Speaker 1>perry this you casual bro's hair? Yes, indeed, Yo, seriously,

916
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Elvis Chan. First of all, what an unfortunate name, Elvis Chan.

917
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:29.039
<v Speaker 1>And then to have that kind I don't even want

918
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to say a hairline that was that was negative hairline.

919
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and there's more to the guy. He's lived

920
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.599
<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco for a while. But shocker, he has

921
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of chies to the CCP. Oh No, the

922
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:49.800
<v Speaker 1>CCP infiltrated the FBI. Yeah, yep, they sure did. They

923
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.079
<v Speaker 1>And it's not like a new thing they've infiltrated. There

924
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:55.119
<v Speaker 1>was another case we just talked about a couple months

925
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:59.280
<v Speaker 1>ago they infiltrated the Mayor of New York City's office

926
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>through like three administrations.

927
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, it's it's bad.

928
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of the CCP, we are gonna talk about

929
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.800
<v Speaker 1>them actually, and I have that article pulled up.

930
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes I do, Yes I do. This is a great

931
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:12.159
<v Speaker 2>time here.

932
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>So this isn't directly towards China, but it is very

933
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>indirectly involving China here. This is from Al Jazeera. And yes,

934
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I know they have an agenda that they push. I

935
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 1>feel that.

936
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 2>But let's talk about the India and Pakistan situation and

937
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:34.159
<v Speaker 2>why other countries, namely China and Russia and America are.

938
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Being pulled on in this situation. All right, there's reasons

939
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:42.199
<v Speaker 1>for this backdoor deals, military alliances, economic alliances, all the things.

940
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:48.159
<v Speaker 1>So for anybody who is unaware, India and Pakistan have

941
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:51.800
<v Speaker 1>not been homies for a very very long time, pretty

942
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:55.119
<v Speaker 1>much since Pakistan became a nation, right, India's had some

943
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>issues with them. They've had border disputes over the Kush region.

944
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:02.559
<v Speaker 1>This is like the border between the two nations, right,

945
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:08.239
<v Speaker 1>India being a primarily Hindu nation, Pakistan being a primarily

946
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Muslim nation. Not just as at a border dispute between

947
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 1>two nations, but they actually push it to the realm

948
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:20.320
<v Speaker 1>of religious dogma type of fervor with this. There was

949
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 1>a border dispute last week. Pakistan blew up an Indian outpost.

950
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:29.239
<v Speaker 1>India has responded in kind and has started lighting up Pakistan.

951
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:33.800
<v Speaker 1>And there is the question if this is about to

952
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:37.199
<v Speaker 1>go to an actual all out boots on the ground war.

953
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it will. The possibility is very real.

954
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.360
<v Speaker 2>The one thing I don't like is that they keep

955
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.199
<v Speaker 2>bringing up the fact that these are nuclear powers, so

956
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 2>it could go to a nuclear war. Y'all.

957
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:56.199
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to a nuclear war. It's never going

958
00:53:56.239 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to go to a nuclear war, period, heartstop. The whole

959
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:05.679
<v Speaker 1>reason of a mutually assured destruction agreement is because it's

960
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:08.360
<v Speaker 1>understood that you would be mutually destructive, like the entire

961
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:10.840
<v Speaker 1>earth is going to shit all over you the second

962
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:11.639
<v Speaker 1>you launch a nuke.

963
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:13.159
<v Speaker 2>That's understood.

964
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>So please, everybody, don't listen to these media outlets and

965
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>these legacy medias and the news all saying that.

966
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:22.840
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna go to nuclear armistice.

967
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Armistice means peace, But you know what I'm saying, it's

968
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:26.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a nuclear war.

969
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:29.119
<v Speaker 2>It's not No, it's not right.

970
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:36.519
<v Speaker 1>That being said, why is China weighing in on this situation, Well,

971
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.239
<v Speaker 1>China and India also have their own border disputes in

972
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:45.039
<v Speaker 1>the north of India south west of China. Fine, but

973
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:48.920
<v Speaker 1>y'all remember when I talked about the Chinese Belton Road initiative. Well,

974
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a good chunk of that goes through Pakistan, and they

975
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:57.599
<v Speaker 1>are trying to or I'm sorry Pakistan. I know somebody's

976
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna get mad at me for mispronouncing the nation and

977
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:05.239
<v Speaker 1>because apparently saying Iran is ignorant and it's Iran. So

978
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Pakistan has a real tight like they're in good with

979
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 1>China right now.

980
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Main reason is because they are. China is trying to.

981
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Use Pakistan's port to be able to get another sea

982
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 1>port so they don't have to go through the Strait

983
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.719
<v Speaker 1>of Hormus, which would be really beneficial for them. But

984
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 1>let's just read into the article here. India Pakistan, can

985
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:33.480
<v Speaker 1>other countries pull them from the brink of conflict? I

986
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 1>would say maybe not pull them from. I'm thinking they're

987
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.559
<v Speaker 1>gonna push them to the brink of conflict. India's carries

988
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:42.960
<v Speaker 1>it out strikes on what is described as terrorist infrastructure

989
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:47.400
<v Speaker 1>in Pakistan and Pakistan Administered Kashmir in response to last

990
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:51.440
<v Speaker 1>month's deadly attack on Indian Administered Kashmir, further raising tensions

991
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 1>between two nuclear armed neighbors. I'm telling you they cannot

992
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:58.039
<v Speaker 1>help themselves, but bring up the nuclear arms.

993
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.920
<v Speaker 2>They just gotta. But I digress.

994
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Pakistan said on Wednesday that at least thirty one people

995
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:08.239
<v Speaker 1>were killed and dozens of others injured in the Indian attacks.

996
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:12.480
<v Speaker 1>In retaliatory attacks by Pakistani forces, at least ten people

997
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:16.719
<v Speaker 1>have been killed in the Indian Administered Kashmir. Some o

998
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:20.960
<v Speaker 1>those American ministories. Islamabad, which is the capital city of Pakistan,

999
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 1>said civilians were targeted in India's strikes, while India's defense

1000
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>ministry said its forces only hit bases where attacks.

1001
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 2>On India are planned and directed.

1002
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm also gonna say that India doesn't I'm not

1003
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna say they don't make mistakes.

1004
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's an imperfect world.

1005
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 1>India's military is extremely capable, extremely capable. I know for

1006
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:46.000
<v Speaker 1>sure they're within the top ten.

1007
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to say that in the top five strongest

1008
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:52.079
<v Speaker 2>militaries on Earth. They are no slouches. They have the size,

1009
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.519
<v Speaker 2>they have the training, they have the technology, they have

1010
00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:01.119
<v Speaker 2>the motivation like India's. India could handle up and handle

1011
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Pakistan easily handily, but anyway, India has blamed the Pakistan

1012
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:12.480
<v Speaker 2>for the April twenty second attack on Pahlgam Indian a

1013
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:16.199
<v Speaker 2>minister Kashmir that killed twenty six people. Islamabad has denied

1014
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 2>it played any role and called for a neutral investigation

1015
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.559
<v Speaker 2>into the worst attacked on tourists in Kashmir in a

1016
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 2>quarter century, a call rejected by India. Yeah, the last

1017
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:31.280
<v Speaker 2>time the tourists were attacked in Kashmir. Not trying to

1018
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:35.280
<v Speaker 2>point fingers, but which country of origin do y'all think

1019
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the attack came from? Food for thought, ladies and gents. Anyway,

1020
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:43.880
<v Speaker 2>India claim Pakistan had provided a haven for armed groups

1021
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:46.679
<v Speaker 2>which have carried out deadly attacks, including two thousand and

1022
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:50.079
<v Speaker 2>eight Mumbai attack in the twenty nineteen paul Wami attack

1023
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:52.079
<v Speaker 2>a paul Wamah attack. Excuse me.

1024
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.079
<v Speaker 1>More than two hundred people, including security forces, were killed

1025
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:58.119
<v Speaker 1>in the two attacks combined. Now that being said, also,

1026
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Pakistan is not exactly an unknown for harboring dangerous people.

1027
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:07.159
<v Speaker 1>The Taliban al Qaida. They were hiding in the Pakistan

1028
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:11.360
<v Speaker 1>mountains when American forces were in Afghanistan trying to find

1029
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:11.719
<v Speaker 1>the guy.

1030
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Like, that's an understood fact.

1031
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Pakistan pretty much is extremely corrupt and I know a

1032
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 1>shocker a Middle Eastern country that's super corrupt. But basically,

1033
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:23.159
<v Speaker 1>if you have the money to pay for it, they'll

1034
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>let you chill there.

1035
00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:26.039
<v Speaker 2>They really don't care who you are, what your allegiance

1036
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 2>is to.

1037
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.960
<v Speaker 1>It's fine, right that being said, yes, there are some

1038
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:35.239
<v Speaker 1>terrorist organizations that do call Pakistan home and these attacks

1039
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>were staged, planned and launched from Pakistan. Amidstaring tensions, international

1040
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:43.719
<v Speaker 1>leaders have called for restraint after New Delhi's biggest attack

1041
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:49.639
<v Speaker 1>on Pakistan and territory it controlled in decade decades. Excuse me, Islamabad.

1042
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Has A has had long welcomed meditation and international jesus

1043
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I cannot read today. Islamabad has long welcomed mediation and

1044
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.360
<v Speaker 1>international involvement to resolved the decades old conflict over Kashmir,

1045
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>which lies at the heart of their border dispute, but

1046
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:11.119
<v Speaker 1>New Delhi has tried to avoid Internet internationalization of the conflict.

1047
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Both India and Pakistan claimed Kashmir, but each controls a

1048
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:17.719
<v Speaker 1>part of it, with China also administering a chunk of

1049
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Northern Kashmir. Yes, China has entered the conversation, which of

1050
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:26.760
<v Speaker 1>course only could mean one thing here.

1051
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump don't trust China. China is ass ho. Donald

1052
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Trump don't trust China, China is ass ho. I agree,

1053
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.760
<v Speaker 2>random Taiwan Man. But let's continue here. Here's what you

1054
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:41.679
<v Speaker 2>need to know about the international efforts to claim tensions

1055
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:45.000
<v Speaker 2>between the nuclear armed nations. What have countries said so

1056
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:48.760
<v Speaker 2>far about the escalation now? While reactions from the international

1057
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 2>community continue to trickle in, there is an overwhelming consensus

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<v Speaker 2>that both countries should exercise maximum restraint. The United States,

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00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 2>here's what we have to say on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of State Mark Rubius both with the National Security

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<v Speaker 1>advisors of India and Pakistan on Wednesday, urging the two

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<v Speaker 1>sides to keep lines of communication open to avoid escalation.

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<v Speaker 2>The US State Department said. Rubio said he would continue to.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay engaged with both sides, was monitoring the situation between

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01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 1>the neighbors closely and hoping for a peaceful resolution.

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<v Speaker 2>That being said, I do know that America.

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01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:24.840
<v Speaker 1>And India here recently. I'm thinking it was like a

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01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:29.360
<v Speaker 1>year or two ago. Signed a military alliance, pack packed.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, I'm not saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That they are like as locked in with US as

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01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Israel is locked in with America. But as far as

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01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.840
<v Speaker 2>this can go, America is trying to climb deeper and

1073
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.239
<v Speaker 2>deeper into bed with India, not just on a military standpoint,

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01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:47.599
<v Speaker 2>but also for an economic and manufacturing standpoint, because they're

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01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:51.480
<v Speaker 2>trying to get off of China's tit. So that being said,

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01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:55.159
<v Speaker 2>if India's got some beef, it wouldn't shock me that

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01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.960
<v Speaker 2>America would throw their they're gaunt let in with this

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01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:00.119
<v Speaker 2>and say, okay, if you got beef, we got beef.

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<v Speaker 2>That being said, India is more than capable of handling

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01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.079
<v Speaker 2>this situation on their own. I don't really believe that

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01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.039
<v Speaker 2>America is going to get involved. You know, maybe.

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01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Some some tariffs, maybe some arms support, maybe some weapons support,

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01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:19.599
<v Speaker 1>if it's asked of us kind of thing.

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01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I could envision a world where that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a hard time believing American troops are going

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01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:28.599
<v Speaker 1>to be sent to aid India in their fight against Pakistan.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rubio is keeping it very neutral as much as

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01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:34.880
<v Speaker 1>he can here and says, look y'all, keep the lines

1089
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of communication open. All right, let's try to just resolve

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01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>this situation before it gets crazy here. But you know,

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01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the United Kingdom, the UK too has offered to play

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01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.079
<v Speaker 1>a diplomatic role in the Indian Pakistan conflict. We stand

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01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 1>ready to support both countries. UK Trade Secretary Jonathan Reynolds

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01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.559
<v Speaker 1>told BBC Radio. Both have a huge interest in regional

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01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:00.679
<v Speaker 1>stability and dialogue and de escalation, and anything we can

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01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 1>do to support that, we are here and willing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The conflict dates back to the nineteen forty seven partition

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01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Indian subcontinent by British colonial rulers in India

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01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:12.119
<v Speaker 1>and Pakistan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's a very fair point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, like I said, since Pakistan became a nation,

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01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.119
<v Speaker 1>India has not exactly been thrilled about that.

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01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:26.440
<v Speaker 2>And then there's this one area is that Bolistan Boristan.

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01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:31.039
<v Speaker 2>There's one area that's almost its own independent nation, and

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01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.199
<v Speaker 2>it was for a while until they joined Pakistan. They

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01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:37.079
<v Speaker 2>also have had big, big issues and they as a

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01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:42.519
<v Speaker 2>region were very instrumental in the issues here. They provide

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01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:48.519
<v Speaker 2>like ninety percent of the water and energy for Pakistan

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01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and get pennies on the dollar for compensation for it.

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01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:56.599
<v Speaker 2>So you know, this is kind of a dirty thing

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01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:00.119
<v Speaker 2>in and of itself, the Pakistan India situation here. Now,

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01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:02.719
<v Speaker 2>China they have weighted on this.

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01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Beijing called India's attacks regrettable while urging both sides to

1114
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:11.079
<v Speaker 1>exercise restraint. They're both China's neighbors as well. China opposes

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01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.079
<v Speaker 1>all forms of terrorism. The Chinese Foreign minister said in

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01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:17.719
<v Speaker 1>a statement, Now, that's kind of a counterintuitive to say

1117
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:21.519
<v Speaker 1>that that's what he's saying out loud when in another report. Now,

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01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have pulled that one up.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chinese Minister of Defense says that they will fully

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01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:30.440
<v Speaker 2>support Pakistan in whatever happens next. Take that with whatever

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01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:32.800
<v Speaker 2>grain of salt. I see that as also China just

1122
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:33.119
<v Speaker 2>trying to.

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01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Protect their foreign interests, right the Belton wrote initiative anything

1124
01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:38.840
<v Speaker 1>where that is running through, China's gonna do what they

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01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:42.840
<v Speaker 1>can to defend that and try to keep it peaceful

1126
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 1>around that, because if it's China's issue, it's China's issue.

1127
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:48.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they're the root cause of any of

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01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 1>these things by any means, but it makes sense to

1129
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:53.519
<v Speaker 1>me that they would throw in their lot with Pakistan

1130
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:56.159
<v Speaker 1>rather than India. It's not like Mody and Jijuping are

1131
01:03:56.159 --> 01:04:00.360
<v Speaker 1>on the best of terms right now either. France Minister

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01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Jean Noel Burrow said that while India's desire to protect

1133
01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:06.960
<v Speaker 1>itself from the scourge of terrorism was understandable, it called

1134
01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 1>on both countries to avoid escalation and protect civilians. The

1135
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 1>UN Secretary of General Antonio Guierrez Gutierez whatever said the

1136
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 1>international community could not afford a military confrontation between nuclear

1137
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:20.519
<v Speaker 1>armed nations.

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01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Once again, they have to bring up the nuclear arms. Okay,

1139
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.280
<v Speaker 2>good lord, we understand they got nukes. Moving on, what

1140
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:32.400
<v Speaker 2>has offered or who has offered to mediate? Now? This

1141
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:33.440
<v Speaker 2>is interesting as well.

1142
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Port Prior to India's much anticipated attack, a number of

1143
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:40.840
<v Speaker 1>countries said they would be willing to get involved to

1144
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:46.079
<v Speaker 1>help de escalate the continuing crisis. China has offered to

1145
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:49.559
<v Speaker 1>mediate after Pakistan suggested that China could play a role

1146
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:54.159
<v Speaker 1>in an international pro to investigate the Pahalogams attack, Chinese

1147
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Foreign Minister spokesperson yep welcome to fair and just investigators

1148
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.199
<v Speaker 1>at an early date. He urged dialogue to con and

1149
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:07.599
<v Speaker 1>consultation to uphole regional peace and stability. Again, I see

1150
01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that as a little counterintuitive but okay whatever Russia. Russian

1151
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov's told his Pakistani counterpart is shak

1152
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Dhar Okay that Moscow was ready to act for a

1153
01:05:22.039 --> 01:05:26.440
<v Speaker 1>political settlement of the situation in the case there was

1154
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a mutual willingness on the part of Islamabad and New Delhi,

1155
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:34.400
<v Speaker 1>his ministry said in a statement. Lavrov spoke to Dar

1156
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:38.199
<v Speaker 1>on May fourth, two days after speaking to Indian Foreign minister.

1157
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Not gonna pronounce that name. So while Russia will not

1158
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:45.480
<v Speaker 1>come to the peace negotiations for their own situation, they

1159
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.280
<v Speaker 1>are absolutely coming to mediate or they're willing to come

1160
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:51.119
<v Speaker 1>mediate between Indian and Pakistan. I find that interesting.

1161
01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Equally interesting Malaysia.

1162
01:05:55.599 --> 01:06:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Malaysia, you know, country that's already got enough issues going on,

1163
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:05.280
<v Speaker 1>which is seen as like a China junior and super

1164
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:08.840
<v Speaker 1>tight withj But all right, Malaysian Prime Minister and War

1165
01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Abraham in a post on x express support for Pakistan's

1166
01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:15.880
<v Speaker 1>call for an independent and transparent investigation into the Polygrim attack.

1167
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Malaysia remains open to playing a constructive role should the

1168
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:22.960
<v Speaker 1>need arise, he added, suggesting a willingness to mediate if

1169
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.559
<v Speaker 1>acceptable to New Delhi and Islamabad.

1170
01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Iran. Iran, oddly enough, has offered to mediate between this

1171
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:33.679
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, I know, I know, maybe I'm

1172
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:36.800
<v Speaker 2>a little biased here, but of the nations that are

1173
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:39.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to mediate this, I find it odd that they

1174
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:46.280
<v Speaker 2>all pretty much all sit on one side of this

1175
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:50.719
<v Speaker 2>international alliance that is currently going down. I'm just gonna

1176
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 2>throw that out Iran. Tehran was willing to use its

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01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:58.440
<v Speaker 2>good offices in Islamabad and New Delhi to forge greater

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01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:03.159
<v Speaker 2>understanding at this de coul time for Minister Abbas Argatchi

1179
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:08.079
<v Speaker 2>said on x four days after the attack. So, you know,

1180
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know here.

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01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I find that odd that they wouldn't be willing to

1182
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:18.280
<v Speaker 1>let the United States or the UK or Germany. Let

1183
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Germany media, they have no dog in this fight whatsoever.

1184
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:25.719
<v Speaker 1>But no, no, We're going for the nations that are

1185
01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:30.440
<v Speaker 1>being considered the alliance of evil, the axis of evil.

1186
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:32.519
<v Speaker 2>I've heard this term be used a lot. I'm not

1187
01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:35.199
<v Speaker 2>saying that China and Russia are all evil, but that

1188
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:37.599
<v Speaker 2>is a term I'm hearing used on the mainstream media.

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01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't agree with that, but you know what I'm saying.

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01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:42.960
<v Speaker 2>So I just find it interesting that of the countries

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01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:48.159
<v Speaker 2>that we don't necessarily like three of the four of

1192
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:52.880
<v Speaker 2>them are trying to broker a deal between India and Pakistan.

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01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Find that very interesting anyway, Tony, I saw you unmuted

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01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:00.559
<v Speaker 2>yourself a minute ago. I know you're want to weigh

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01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:01.320
<v Speaker 2>in on something here.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I was wondering if the article would bring up

1197
01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:10.199
<v Speaker 9>the five or six airplanes that Pakistan has shot down

1198
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:12.719
<v Speaker 9>that most of the world seems to recognize, all the

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01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:15.400
<v Speaker 9>India denies it. Have you heard of that story?

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01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:16.439
<v Speaker 3>I have.

1201
01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what the planes were, but I'm not

1202
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:25.119
<v Speaker 1>even trying to French. There were French, French made planes.

1203
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:29.000
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, French made planes. It's about a company called Rafale,

1204
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:34.439
<v Speaker 9>and Pakistan has Chinese made planes. Pakistan also has done

1205
01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:37.560
<v Speaker 9>a bunch of military exercises with China for a while,

1206
01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 9>and China is considering given Pakistan their latest fighters, that

1207
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:45.760
<v Speaker 9>J thirty five, which is the F thirty five. Basically

1208
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:48.439
<v Speaker 9>it looks very similar to it, So we'll see.

1209
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Is that what they're calling the White Emperor.

1210
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:55.279
<v Speaker 9>I haven't heard that name, but it looks just like

1211
01:08:55.319 --> 01:09:00.720
<v Speaker 9>an F thirty five. They pretty much copied it. Any Yeah,

1212
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:02.680
<v Speaker 9>I kind of think that this is going to die

1213
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:05.359
<v Speaker 9>down soon, because that's what happened back in twenty nineteen.

1214
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:08.680
<v Speaker 9>I was texting with one of my Indian friends earlier

1215
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 9>today and he says he also thinks it's going to

1216
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:14.239
<v Speaker 9>die down. He's not afraid of nukes. I'm not that

1217
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:17.000
<v Speaker 9>afraid of nukes, but I think it is still something

1218
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 9>to worry about because it's not just the president or

1219
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:22.960
<v Speaker 9>prime minister that can order them to be launched. Any

1220
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:26.520
<v Speaker 9>country with nukes, to my knowledge, has devolved the ability

1221
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:28.720
<v Speaker 9>to launch those down to some kind of lower level,

1222
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:32.199
<v Speaker 9>so it's in the hands of probably a couple of

1223
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:35.960
<v Speaker 9>dozen guys instead of just one guy there, kind of

1224
01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:41.279
<v Speaker 9>like the Doctor Strangelove movie that everybody has seen, something

1225
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:47.000
<v Speaker 9>like that could happen. Maybe we've just gotten lucky anyway. Yeah, yeah,

1226
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:48.600
<v Speaker 9>that was the only other thing I could think of.

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01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:51.439
<v Speaker 9>It was just the planes. So India has launched some

1228
01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:55.159
<v Speaker 9>missiles and Pakistan shot a bunch of planes down. They

1229
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:57.760
<v Speaker 9>shot them down over India too, by the way, with

1230
01:09:57.840 --> 01:09:59.720
<v Speaker 9>surface to air missiles. From what I read.

1231
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not like a all knower as far as

1232
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:06.439
<v Speaker 1>the Indian military's concern. I've done a couple of little

1233
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:09.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't even say stories I've done with some research

1234
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:12.920
<v Speaker 1>into the Indian military before, I know they're capable, right, I.

1235
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Don't know what I know.

1236
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:16.680
<v Speaker 1>They were in the middle of trying to buy either

1237
01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:20.239
<v Speaker 1>they were gonna buy some was it f thirty five's

1238
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:23.760
<v Speaker 1>or the Sue fifty seven's from China?

1239
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I forget what it was. There was a contract that

1240
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:29.880
<v Speaker 2>was just put out and then America last minute pulled

1241
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:33.359
<v Speaker 2>back on the deal and India bought the or is

1242
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:36.560
<v Speaker 2>it Russian made? Is the Sue.

1243
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:39.880
<v Speaker 9>Sue is Russian? It's it's short for Sue Foy. And

1244
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:43.159
<v Speaker 9>there are other big couple of companies to be meg

1245
01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:48.600
<v Speaker 9>like MiG twenty nine, Yeah, Tupa Lev and I and

1246
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:50.760
<v Speaker 9>there's a couple others now.

1247
01:10:51.079 --> 01:10:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And this is just me being I'm not trying to

1248
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 1>be shitty here, but I could also see America pulling back,

1249
01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and I heard a couple of different generals speak on

1250
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:04.439
<v Speaker 1>it in so many words, basically saying like, no, we

1251
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:08.199
<v Speaker 1>want India to get the other guys tech so that

1252
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:11.039
<v Speaker 1>we can see how it compares in an actual war zone,

1253
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:14.279
<v Speaker 1>to see how far behind they are with our tech

1254
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:17.560
<v Speaker 1>or how it would fare against our own defenses kind

1255
01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:20.920
<v Speaker 1>of thing. So if that is the case, and if

1256
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:25.279
<v Speaker 1>they do, in fact have these Russian Sioux jets. You know,

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01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious if Pakistan is able to shoot them down

1258
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:30.720
<v Speaker 1>because Russia has been touting a lot of things about

1259
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:34.640
<v Speaker 1>their jets capabilities and if and I'm not like these

1260
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:36.800
<v Speaker 1>were French planes that were shot down and I understand that,

1261
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:40.399
<v Speaker 1>but hypothetically, if Pakistan is able to shoot down they're great.

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<v Speaker 2>Royce, mute yoursell brother.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm so sorry, you're good, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>If Pakistan is able to shoot down a Russian what

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<v Speaker 1>they're calling their sixth Gen fighter or maybe the fifth Gin,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're not releasing their cream of the crop for sale.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, if they're able to shoot down from a basic

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01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:04.239
<v Speaker 2>surface to air missile that they have, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that would also kind of be.

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<v Speaker 1>Some really good data for America to collect. That could

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<v Speaker 1>be the motive there. I don't know this for a fact,

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01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.640
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I see what you mean as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like the nuclear war being something that needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>at least talked about. But dude, if anybody was to

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01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:24.920
<v Speaker 1>launch a nuke, and yeah it's been it's been broken

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01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 1>down to a couple of people on the lower ends, sure,

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01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that would mean that this one person that made the

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01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:34.039
<v Speaker 1>decision to turn the key and push the button just

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01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:35.159
<v Speaker 1>doomed his entire.

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01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Nation as soon as he decides to push the button.

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01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:41.159
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's understood nobody, even America.

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01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:43.520
<v Speaker 1>We're the only nation to ever successfully launch a nuke

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<v Speaker 1>in a wartime field of any type. If we were

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<v Speaker 1>to do that right now, all other nations with nukes

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01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:51.319
<v Speaker 1>will attack us instantly.

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01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:54.079
<v Speaker 2>We'll have about twenty minutes of chill time before we're

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01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:54.840
<v Speaker 2>all torched.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of understood. So I don't really see

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<v Speaker 1>it as at I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 9>The reason they still could happen is because there's been

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01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:08.359
<v Speaker 9>a couple of incidents where it almost happened, where some

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01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:11.800
<v Speaker 9>guy thinks he sees a nuclear missile incoming on a

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01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:16.680
<v Speaker 9>radar screen, and depending on how his officer reacts to that,

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01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:19.880
<v Speaker 9>missiles could go flying. There's also been a couple of

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<v Speaker 9>broken arrow incidents. Yeah, that's the euphemism given to it,

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01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:28.479
<v Speaker 9>where you know, a nuclear bomb accidentally gets dropped, just accidentally,

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01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:30.720
<v Speaker 9>and it's happened a couple of times and luckily none

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01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:31.680
<v Speaker 9>of them has exploded.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's happened like thirty seven times. In the Cotton

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<v Speaker 1>Mill US thirty seven.

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01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:37.960
<v Speaker 9>Well, I didn't know it was that many, but I've

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01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:38.800
<v Speaker 9>heard of several.

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01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Operation Chrome Dome when we used to have jets

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01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:47.359
<v Speaker 1>just flying the globe twenty four to seven with nukes

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01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:49.439
<v Speaker 1>and them just in case something popped off.

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01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:52.119
<v Speaker 2>There was more than a few times when the plane.

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01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Experience some issues and had to drop the load. But

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01:13:56.239 --> 01:13:58.399
<v Speaker 1>there was one in particular. God, I wish I remember

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01:13:58.399 --> 01:13:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the side. I want to say it was in Mississippi

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01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.520
<v Speaker 1>or in Georgia, and they had to drop two nukes

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01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:07.439
<v Speaker 1>out of the plane and the safeties were enacted on them,

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01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and there was like three separate safeties to keep this

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01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:12.640
<v Speaker 1>thing from going off. Each of them hit the ground

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01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:17.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't explode, which is great. However, on them when the

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01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:20.920
<v Speaker 1>investigation was done, of the three safeties, two of them

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01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:25.199
<v Speaker 1>failed and one was like still intact and kept it

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01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:28.880
<v Speaker 1>from blowing up. The problem is it was two separate safeties.

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01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Wow, as they're talking about nukes blowing up, I got

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01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:32.760
<v Speaker 2>fireworks going off behind my head.

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01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Really bad timing their AI or whatever this phone thing is.

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01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:40.640
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, it was two separate safety devices that kept

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01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.680
<v Speaker 1>them from going It wasn't like this one kill switch

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01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:47.039
<v Speaker 1>trigger that was like really super gigachad made that saved

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01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:50.319
<v Speaker 1>the world. It was an accident that each of these

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01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:54.439
<v Speaker 1>individually stopped it from happening. And yeah, that happened more

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01:14:54.600 --> 01:14:57.079
<v Speaker 1>than a few times, like more than we'd like to

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01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:58.479
<v Speaker 1>admit out loud, for sure.

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01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:02.520
<v Speaker 2>So I see what you're saying. Maybe like a.

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01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Combination of incompetence or you know, a little bit of

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01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:11.720
<v Speaker 1>fear mongering would attribute some general to go ahead and

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01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:14.560
<v Speaker 1>pull the trigger on a nuclear warhead. I could see it.

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01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:17.920
<v Speaker 1>But man, that would be just that would be the

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01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:19.199
<v Speaker 1>end of his whole nation.

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01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:24.640
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I agree, it's also pretty unlikely. One other thing

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01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:27.039
<v Speaker 9>I wanted to bring up is that I'm sure you've

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01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:32.000
<v Speaker 9>read multiple articles on the effectiveness of different countries militaries,

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01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:35.800
<v Speaker 9>and when I read those, they're normally pretty slanted. I've

1341
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:39.720
<v Speaker 9>seen articles saying that China would definitely win against Taiwan,

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01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:42.119
<v Speaker 9>and I've seen articles saying it would definitely go the

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01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:45.439
<v Speaker 9>other way. And this is why war is just such

1344
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:48.199
<v Speaker 9>a gamble, and everyone seems to go into it thinking

1345
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:51.359
<v Speaker 9>that they're definitely gonna win and be home by Christmas.

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01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:54.159
<v Speaker 9>It's like nothing has changed since World War One or

1347
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:58.359
<v Speaker 9>long before that. Everyone goes into it with overconfidence, and

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01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:02.520
<v Speaker 9>I think India and Pakistan might better match than either

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01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:03.560
<v Speaker 9>side wants to admit.

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01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:05.640
<v Speaker 2>It's very possible.

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01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:08.479
<v Speaker 1>It's very possible, right because we're going off with the

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01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:10.600
<v Speaker 1>data that we have, and it's like at that point

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01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you have to look at who your source is and

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01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:16.159
<v Speaker 1>how valid is that source, then look at both sides

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01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:19.920
<v Speaker 1>of that conversation. I'm not saying that the Pakistani military

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01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:22.520
<v Speaker 1>is dog shit by any means.

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01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I do know that India is extremely capable and they

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01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:30.199
<v Speaker 1>have the numbers. That being said, if they were to

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01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:33.399
<v Speaker 1>really throw in their entire might into it, both Pakistan

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01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and India, I have no idea how that would really

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01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:36.600
<v Speaker 1>shake out.

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01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I believe that India would win that.

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01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:39.159
<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean that just because of the numbers.

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01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I believe that because if you just look at size

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01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:44.720
<v Speaker 1>of military and the tech they're dealing with.

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01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:46.880
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know that for a fact.

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01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:50.720
<v Speaker 1>There's been so many military upsets where the underdog absolutely

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01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:54.239
<v Speaker 1>came out on top, So who's to say right aside

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01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:56.920
<v Speaker 1>from that, I think that you're right. I haven't talked

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01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to anybody in India or Pakistan for that matter, as

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01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:03.079
<v Speaker 1>far as it goes, but I think that it'll probably

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01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:05.720
<v Speaker 1>get over hyped for a little bit and then it.

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01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Will blow over.

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01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:11.039
<v Speaker 1>But I would be remiss to say that there is

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01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:15.680
<v Speaker 1>no chance of this going into a full on, all out, knockdown,

1378
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:18.439
<v Speaker 1>drag out war between the two countries. It's very possible.

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01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:22.880
<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to bring that article up everybody. Now,

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01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:30.159
<v Speaker 1>This next one is rather interesting. The UN judge jailed

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01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:34.119
<v Speaker 1>for keeping housekeeper as a slave. I don't know if

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01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:38.800
<v Speaker 1>anybody heard about this one yet, but the United Nations judge,

1383
01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna get into what her judiciary powers.

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01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Were with the UN. It's very ironic that she herself

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01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:52.560
<v Speaker 2>had a slave, and we're gonna yep, let's just dive

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01:17:52.640 --> 01:17:55.319
<v Speaker 2>on into it, shall we. Is from the BBC News.

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01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:58.520
<v Speaker 1>A United Nations judge has been jailed for six years

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01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:01.079
<v Speaker 1>and four months for forcing a woman to work as

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01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:06.319
<v Speaker 1>a domestic slave. Lydia Magombay, fifty, was studying for a

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01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:10.880
<v Speaker 1>PhD in law at the University of Oxford when police

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01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:14.239
<v Speaker 1>discovered she had a young Ugandan woman in her home

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01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:18.760
<v Speaker 1>carrying out unpaid work as a maid and nanny. Mcgumbay,

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01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:22.800
<v Speaker 1>who was also a High Court judge in Uganda, was

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01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:26.279
<v Speaker 1>jailed at Oxford Crown Court on Friday after she was

1395
01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:31.159
<v Speaker 1>found guilty of modern day slavery offenses in March. In sentencing,

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01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Judge David Foxton told the defendant she showed absolutely no

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01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:38.680
<v Speaker 1>remorse for her actions and she looked or she had

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01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:44.159
<v Speaker 1>looked to forcibly blame the victim for what happened. Yeah,

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01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:49.000
<v Speaker 1>because that's how slavery works, right, It's the worker's fault

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01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:56.479
<v Speaker 1>that they're a slave in England. Yeah, mcgumbay fraudulently arranged

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01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:58.840
<v Speaker 1>a visa for the woman, but it stipulated she would

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01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:01.439
<v Speaker 1>be paid to work as a private servant at the

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01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:06.880
<v Speaker 1>diplomatic residence of John mcgumbay, Uganda's former Deputy High Commissioner

1404
01:19:07.239 --> 01:19:10.920
<v Speaker 1>based at the country's embassy in London. Prosecutor said mister

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01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:14.079
<v Speaker 1>mcgumbay sponsored the victim's visa knowing she would actually work

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01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:20.760
<v Speaker 1>in servitude for mcgumbay. I'm sorry, mcgirwah, prosecutor said, mcgirwah,

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01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:25.399
<v Speaker 1>so the diplomatic residence of John mcgirway. Excuse me to

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01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:31.000
<v Speaker 1>miss mcgumbay. In return, mcgumbay the woman would provide him

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01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:34.520
<v Speaker 1>assistance in relation to a separate court case in Uganda

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01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:37.000
<v Speaker 1>in which he was a defendant and the court was

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01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:41.199
<v Speaker 1>told the trial heard mctgumbay paid for the victim's flight

1412
01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and picked her up from the airport, but the young

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01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:48.199
<v Speaker 1>woman then became a slave at the judge's home in Kindlington, Oxfordshire.

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01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:51.920
<v Speaker 1>This is her, by the way, she was studying for

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01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:55.199
<v Speaker 1>a PhD in law in England.

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01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:58.520
<v Speaker 2>As she had a house slave. Yeah.

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01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Mister Foxton described as a very sad case as he

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01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:07.159
<v Speaker 1>outlined mcgumbay's legal accomplishments, including her work in the protection

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01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of human rights.

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01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:11.800
<v Speaker 2>YEP.

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01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:15.479
<v Speaker 1>In a written statement read the court by prosecutor Carolyn

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01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Holly case don't know what that means, the victim described

1423
01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:24.119
<v Speaker 1>living in almost constant fear due to mcgumbay's powerful standing

1424
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.640
<v Speaker 1>in Uganda. The woman, who cannot be named for legal reason,

1425
01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:30.800
<v Speaker 1>said she can't go back to Uganda due to fear

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01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>of what may happen to her, and added that she

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01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:36.399
<v Speaker 1>may never see her mother again. Yeah, this is full

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01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.319
<v Speaker 1>on indentured servitude. Like, there's no two ways about this.

1429
01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:41.600
<v Speaker 1>This is a slave and this.

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01:20:41.479 --> 01:20:44.439
<v Speaker 2>Woman who was in London, England.

1431
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Studying in law and had done so much human rights

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01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:50.920
<v Speaker 1>work and she was a u N judge. Yeah right,

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01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:55.520
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the miss Holley said mcgumbay exploited her victim

1434
01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:58.159
<v Speaker 1>by taking advantage of her lack of knowledge about employment

1435
01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:01.199
<v Speaker 1>rights and misleading her about why she came to the UK.

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01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:04.600
<v Speaker 2>She said there was clear and significant.

1437
01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Imbalance of power within the relationship between mcgumbay and her

1438
01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:12.720
<v Speaker 1>victim treated as worthless. The Crown Prosecution Service authorized police

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01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:17.119
<v Speaker 1>to charge mister mcgirwa with conspiracy, but he had diplomatic

1440
01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:22.199
<v Speaker 1>immunity which the Ugandan government did not wave. So he

1441
01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:24.479
<v Speaker 1>knew damn good and well that he was bringing this

1442
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:28.479
<v Speaker 1>woman into London to be a actual slave. But then

1443
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.479
<v Speaker 1>he pulled his diplomatic community card and the Ugandan government

1444
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:33.359
<v Speaker 1>he gave him that.

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01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:36.239
<v Speaker 2>But they said, yep he does. He's got diplomatic community.

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01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:39.319
<v Speaker 2>It is what it is. Mcgumbay.

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01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:42.039
<v Speaker 1>The lady who had the slave had denied forcing the

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01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:44.640
<v Speaker 1>young Uganda woman to do household chores and said she

1449
01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:49.199
<v Speaker 1>always treated her with love, care and patience. Then Clark

1450
01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:51.720
<v Speaker 1>of the Thames Valley Police said there was no doubt

1451
01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:56.119
<v Speaker 1>that mcgumbay had known she was committing offenses. Modern slavery

1452
01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>is an underreported crime, and I hope that the bravery

1453
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:01.199
<v Speaker 1>of the victim in this case courages other victims of

1454
01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:04.399
<v Speaker 1>some modern slavery to come forward, he said. A University

1455
01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:08.319
<v Speaker 1>of Oxford spokesperson said the institution was appalled by its

1456
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>students' crimes. The university is now commencing its own disciplinary process,

1457
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:15.199
<v Speaker 1>which has the power to remove students convicted of serious

1458
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:16.000
<v Speaker 1>criminal offenses.

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01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:19.880
<v Speaker 2>The spokesperson said, Okay, so.

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01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Just in case everybody's not kept track of that, the

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01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:29.079
<v Speaker 1>un had this person, this lady from Uganda, who was

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01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:31.720
<v Speaker 1>there to do more work. But yeah, you look at

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01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.399
<v Speaker 1>her track record as far as the un was concerned.

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01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:37.720
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't like a champion of human rights, but she

1465
01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:40.680
<v Speaker 1>would have stylized herself as such, and she was trying

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01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to get a pH d involved from Oxford to continue

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01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:47.640
<v Speaker 1>furthering the work she was doing with the un Meanwhile,

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01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:52.840
<v Speaker 1>she absolutely had a slave, which I mean that the

1469
01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:56.920
<v Speaker 1>jokes right themselves, but also it's a disgusting thing, like

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<v Speaker 1>a one hundred percent just disgusting. So if anybody has

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01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:02.199
<v Speaker 1>anything that would like to add on to that, one

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01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:04.119
<v Speaker 1>go for it. I'm gonna read some of these things

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01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>in the chat. Let's see here. Oh all right, so

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01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:11.479
<v Speaker 1>we lost Anthony. He had to go in for the night. Anthony,

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01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining.

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01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Us, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, this is the robot article Raven Lee has

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01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:21.199
<v Speaker 1>sent in. I thought a sex slave at first, you

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01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:23.479
<v Speaker 1>would think, you would think, and I'm not even saying

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01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that she wasn't used as such, like a slave can

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01:23:27.039 --> 01:23:27.600
<v Speaker 1>be used.

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01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:29.880
<v Speaker 2>For whatever the hell the owner wants to use them for.

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01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:34.079
<v Speaker 1>But from what the article and the reports would be

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01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:37.199
<v Speaker 1>leading us to believe, it was more for household chores

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01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and things of that nature. So I don't believe at

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01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:42.640
<v Speaker 1>this time there was any sexual abuse that was done

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01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:47.359
<v Speaker 1>to the victim. I'm not ruling that out, but I

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01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:49.079
<v Speaker 1>guess time will tell.

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<v Speaker 2>More stories are going to come out about this, Okay,

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01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:55.640
<v Speaker 2>all right, so yeah it is. It is absolutely tragic,

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01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Raven I could not agree more. So let's get back

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01:23:58.920 --> 01:23:59.399
<v Speaker 2>to it here.

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01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:05.039
<v Speaker 1>The I had something pulled up about the Congo. But honestly,

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01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the situation in the Congo in Rwanda is so so

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01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>in depth that it would take me an entire conversation

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01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of two hours to break it all down. Long story short,

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01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the M twenty three is allowing how could I put this,

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01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Rwanda sent fighters into Congo, a democrat republic Gernanda Congo,

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01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and now they are extending an olive branch allowing any

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01:24:32.079 --> 01:24:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Congolese refugees to come into Rwanda for force, you know,

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01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>sanctuary where they'll be surrounded by the people who invaded

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01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:49.439
<v Speaker 1>their country. Let that one marinade as long as you

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01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>need to to see what would happen.

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01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:51.520
<v Speaker 2>And if we.

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01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Only look a few decades back as far as what

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01:24:54.119 --> 01:24:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Rwanda will do or could do. Yeah, no, I'm not

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01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:01.319
<v Speaker 1>saying it's gonna be another machete genocide, but there's a

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01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>greater than zero percent chance of it. Also, if you

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01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:08.079
<v Speaker 1>look at the military prowess of your average Rwandan soldier

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01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and compare that to your average Congolese soldier, I'm not

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01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>even throwing this out to like be be shitty about this.

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01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>The math is the math on this one Rwandan soldier

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01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>is probably equal to about fifteen Congolese fighters. Like as

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01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>far as the weapons, the training, the overall military prowess

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01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>thereof you got, it's basically like a professional soldier with

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01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:40.920
<v Speaker 1>real training against I don't even want to say rebel forces,

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01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>scared kids with guns.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, that's what's being equated here.

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01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>So when the M twenty three sent their troops, they're

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01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>fighters into the Congo, it's been it's been rough for

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01:25:55.479 --> 01:26:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the Congolese people, the fighters thereof So we'll.

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01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>See what happens with that.

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01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Again, I wanted to pull up an article to talk

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01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>more about the current status of it.

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01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:10.840
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a mess. It is very, very messy and

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01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:13.359
<v Speaker 2>very ugly. We an'll need to go there as far

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01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:18.199
<v Speaker 2>as this episode is concerned. Anyway, moving on here, I

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01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>actually had a couple of different things as far as

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01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>tech goes, that we could talk about today.

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01:26:22.359 --> 01:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>But let's see here. Royce actually sent this one in

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01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:29.720
<v Speaker 1>bionic lens. You've never seen anything like it. I feel

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01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:31.680
<v Speaker 1>like that was a pun. I feel like that was

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01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:32.079
<v Speaker 1>a pun.

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01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:37.079
<v Speaker 2>We all crave twenty twenty vision and envy those that

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01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:39.239
<v Speaker 2>have it, but it's still a thing of the past

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01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:42.800
<v Speaker 2>as technology finds something even better with the bionic lens.

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01:26:43.359 --> 01:26:45.279
<v Speaker 2>What is the bionic contact lens.

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01:26:46.119 --> 01:26:49.039
<v Speaker 1>The bionic contact lens is an advanced artificial lens that

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01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>replaces the natural lens in the eye, offering enhanced vision

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01:26:52.239 --> 01:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>beyond twenty twenty, reducing eyestrain and preventing cataracts and glaucoma.

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01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Developed by a Canadian company, Gumenttics Technology Corporation. It may

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01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:08.079
<v Speaker 1>also support features like smartphone projection and slow drug delivery

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01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:11.439
<v Speaker 1>through it, though it comes at a high initial cost.

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01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could believe that. I absolutely could believe. It's

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01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:16.520
<v Speaker 2>going to be a little pricey on the front end.

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01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Look into the distance. Imagine seeing the smallest of details

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01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:24.039
<v Speaker 2>from thirty feet away instead of ten, for example, letters

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01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>on a sign or a dial on a clock.

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01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:30.199
<v Speaker 1>Pretty cool stuff and definitely possible with the biome bionic lens.

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01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Whilst our national human lens Jesus, I can't speak today,

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01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Whilst our natural human lens limits us in how far

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01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:40.239
<v Speaker 1>we are able to see, this new piece of technology

1553
01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>will remove the problem entirely. Say goodbye to strained eyes.

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01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>The bionic lens uses one hundredth the amount of energy

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01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>that our natural lens does. Now, how are you able

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01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to measure that? I mean, I'm sure there's a way.

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01:27:56.760 --> 01:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>But this bionic mechanical lens is going to use a

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01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:06.079
<v Speaker 1>one hundredth of the energy that are actual born with

1559
01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:09.239
<v Speaker 1>human eyes does. But all right, this means straining eyes

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01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>will no longer be a thing as well or as

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01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>we will be able to focus on something for as

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01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>long as we would like without the issue of damage

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01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>to our site. That's pretty incredible. Let's check this out.

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01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a fifteen minute long video. Now we're not watching that,

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01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Good Lord.

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01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>This exciting piece of technology will ensure that cataracts in

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01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:33.319
<v Speaker 1>the eye no longer occur. Cataracts results in cloudy vision

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01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:36.439
<v Speaker 1>when a human lens becomes less transparent. The innovation is

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01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>literally paving the way to clear vision. Interestingly, the surgery

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01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:43.239
<v Speaker 1>undertaken by the or for the bionic lens would have

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01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the same tools and techniques as the cataracts procedure. Futurisms

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01:28:48.279 --> 01:28:51.319
<v Speaker 1>have quoted that cataract surgery is the most common and

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01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>successful procedure in medicine, so there is real hope for

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01:28:54.600 --> 01:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this new piece of innovation. Another benefit is the tech

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01:28:57.720 --> 01:29:03.239
<v Speaker 1>lens Techi lens is a is is its ability, Good Lord,

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01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to prevent glaucoma, described by the NHS as an eye

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01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>condition where the optic nerve which connects your eye to

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01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>your brain becomes damaged.

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01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Glaucoma can be.

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01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Caused when a cataract's lens releases toxic substances into the

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01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>chamber of the eye.

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01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:21.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they're basically saying, okay, also, if it.

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01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Does look like that, that would be really cool. Like

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01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not for because I know somebody, somebody

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01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>is gonna try to hook this up to AI. I

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01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>know it's gonna happen, right, But aside from that, if

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01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you're telling me that you could make your iris look

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01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:41.319
<v Speaker 1>like that and it can like change colors and stuff like,

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01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that's that's actually pretty.

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01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Cool, you know, I don't know.

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01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what is the before we get too carried away.

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01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>What are the limitations of the bionic lens? It can't

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01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>solve it all. Unfortunately, the bionic lens won't be able

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01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:59.479
<v Speaker 1>to cure everything. For example, color blindness, cloudiness, uh, cloudy

1595
01:29:59.479 --> 01:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>corneas excuse me, and torn optic nerves. Sure, okay, it

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01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:05.199
<v Speaker 1>makes sense it wouldn't be able to cure those things. The

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01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>cost of the bionic lens. Each lens is expected to

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01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:12.399
<v Speaker 1>cost thirty two hundred dollars US, and this is without

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01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.279
<v Speaker 1>the cost of surgery. With time, it is likely to

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01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.439
<v Speaker 1>become cheaper, but to start, it will not be affordable

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01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:19.279
<v Speaker 1>to many people.

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01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fair.

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01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Unfair visual advantage, as not everyone will be able to

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01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:28.399
<v Speaker 1>afford this over or this supersite technology. One of the

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01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>questions these innovators need to address is how fair it

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01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>is if some people have significantly better vision than others

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01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>with the bionic lens? Fair Like, I'm sorry, life's not fair.

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01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>What difference does that make if somebody's got the money

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01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to put a mechanical lens in their eyeball?

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01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Like? Yo, who am I to whom i'd have judged?

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01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Good for you? Interesting stuff, Royce, very interesting stuff.

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01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, with all of that, I don't know if there

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01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>was any other articles that y'all wanted to get into,

1614
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:03.399
<v Speaker 1>but it is something else that roy sent as far

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01:31:03.439 --> 01:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>as the Sanhedrin is concerned.

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01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Now, Royce helped me out here.

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01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Is this from the Sanhedron of the old times? Or

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01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:13.359
<v Speaker 1>is this the sanhedron that was attempted in twenty ten?

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01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:16.079
<v Speaker 4>So neither? Actually?

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01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, real quick, Raven, your hand is raised. Is this

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01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:21.119
<v Speaker 1>involving the Sanhedron or something else?

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01:31:22.199 --> 01:31:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Sorry?

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01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:23.960
<v Speaker 6>Or should I get my hand raised?

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01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:24.000
<v Speaker 4>No?

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01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:27.000
<v Speaker 6>I had dropped something in the chat really quick of

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01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:31.840
<v Speaker 6>South Korea's liquid robot thing, and that I added like

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01:31:32.279 --> 01:31:34.439
<v Speaker 6>the YouTube video and all that. It doesn't have to

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01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:36.800
<v Speaker 6>be tonight, but I just wanted you guys to see it.

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01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, So what does everybody feel y'all want

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01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>to talk about the Korean Liquid robot or do y'all

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01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:45.199
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about Sanhedrin things? I'm down for either

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01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:47.800
<v Speaker 2>or matter of fact, we know, let's go.

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01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's get out of this and I will check the

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01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:54.239
<v Speaker 1>chat to see what everybody is feeling on this reading

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01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the I'm speechless text.

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01:31:56.039 --> 01:31:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Shut up, alex.

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01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh only says san he Dream. Royce says sand he Dream.

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01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:06.800
<v Speaker 2>We can do the g stuff word up, word up

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01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:10.800
<v Speaker 2>either as interesting. Okay, well, look all right, tell you

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01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:11.039
<v Speaker 2>all what.

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01:32:11.159 --> 01:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's put the Korean Liquid Robot conversation to next week

1642
01:32:14.800 --> 01:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>or hell, we can even do it afterwards. This doesn't

1643
01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:18.239
<v Speaker 1>have to be a two hour pod. We can go

1644
01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:20.039
<v Speaker 1>aslong as we Dan will please. But I just know

1645
01:32:20.039 --> 01:32:22.439
<v Speaker 1>that everybody's got work tomorrow morning, so you know, try

1646
01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to be conscientious of these things. But all right, so Royce,

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01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:29.119
<v Speaker 1>break down what I am looking at as far as

1648
01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>this Sanhedrin conversation is concerned.

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01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:35.079
<v Speaker 4>All right, So just to clarify. So the talent is

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01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:38.039
<v Speaker 4>made up of a number of they're called tract taps,

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01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:41.720
<v Speaker 4>like each has a very very specific thing. So you

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01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:44.760
<v Speaker 4>have Sennhedron, which is dealing with the laws of the

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01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:48.760
<v Speaker 4>court system. You have like Brokos, which is dealing with blessings.

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01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:53.640
<v Speaker 4>So there are a number of tractates that are in

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01:32:53.680 --> 01:32:55.119
<v Speaker 4>the town load.

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01:32:56.039 --> 01:32:59.399
<v Speaker 1>So quick would a tracta be equivalent to a book

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01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>of the Bible or maybe like a chapter of a

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01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:02.319
<v Speaker 1>book of the Bible?

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01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Call it its own book.

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01:33:07.520 --> 01:33:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Then is like a book I got you and.

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01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Then inside you have they're called folio A and B.

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01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:19.840
<v Speaker 4>So like the one page of Gamara is front and back.

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01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:22.399
<v Speaker 4>It's not just it's not just like page one. It's

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01:33:22.439 --> 01:33:24.239
<v Speaker 4>like forty nine A and B.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, Okay, So so this one, so this portion of

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01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:36.159
<v Speaker 11>the Talmude is from the Tractate of Sanhedrin on on

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01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:38.159
<v Speaker 11>forty three A.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So there's like side one of this scroll page

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01:33:44.359 --> 01:33:48.159
<v Speaker 1>page okay, good things, good things. And I do appreciate

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01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:52.079
<v Speaker 1>that this has a English and Hebrew translation here, because

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01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>boyle boy, you're the only one here that can read Hebrew,

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01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and are you fluent in Hebrew or you like, have

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01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:00.039
<v Speaker 1>a working understanding of the language.

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01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:04.640
<v Speaker 4>Working understanding. But there's also a big difference between talmudik Hebrew,

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01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:06.960
<v Speaker 4>modern Hebrew and build of the Hebrew.

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01:34:07.840 --> 01:34:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Explain that to everybody who may not know what you

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01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:10.960
<v Speaker 2>mean by this.

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01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:15.640
<v Speaker 4>So, for example, and Tony probably can back me up

1679
01:34:15.680 --> 01:34:20.479
<v Speaker 4>on this, the verbs and some of the flowery language

1680
01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:22.600
<v Speaker 4>that might be written in the Bible is not going

1681
01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:25.000
<v Speaker 4>to be written, not going to be spoken in Hebrew

1682
01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:27.840
<v Speaker 4>or in modern Israeli. Which is.

1683
01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:35.159
<v Speaker 2>To say, like the Old English, the Shakespearean English that

1684
01:34:35.199 --> 01:34:38.079
<v Speaker 2>we read in the King James Bible is not.

1685
01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:41.039
<v Speaker 1>The same even in England English. That's not the way

1686
01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>they speak today. Is that kind of an equal, you know, comparison.

1687
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:48.039
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes. And then as you read, you will notice

1688
01:34:48.039 --> 01:34:50.920
<v Speaker 4>that there are words that are bold and words that

1689
01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:54.239
<v Speaker 4>are not bold. The words that are bold are from

1690
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:57.720
<v Speaker 4>the actually Hebrewic text. The words that are not in

1691
01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:01.800
<v Speaker 4>bold are basically the he help you understand all the

1692
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:07.720
<v Speaker 4>ands and ofs and to give you complete context about

1693
01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:12.760
<v Speaker 4>what's going on. Because that's exactly how complicated learning gamar is.

1694
01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:15.479
<v Speaker 4>That's why people learn it. It's a very very high

1695
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.479
<v Speaker 4>level because you have to have all this understanding that

1696
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:21.560
<v Speaker 4>you know what's going on, and as you say, very

1697
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:24.479
<v Speaker 4>often you know the time and the place, so you

1698
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:28.760
<v Speaker 4>need to know what's going on, who's speaking, the opinion

1699
01:35:29.039 --> 01:35:33.800
<v Speaker 4>of who it was talking, and just FYI, Like there

1700
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:38.000
<v Speaker 4>are plenty of cases in the Gamara where at the

1701
01:35:38.119 --> 01:35:42.359
<v Speaker 4>very end they'll say I have no idea, so you know,

1702
01:35:42.439 --> 01:35:44.800
<v Speaker 4>and then you try that.

1703
01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:47.079
<v Speaker 1>The equivalent of them being like, you go on this

1704
01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:48.399
<v Speaker 1>a long ti ratee about something.

1705
01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Then you're in like, but I don't know though you

1706
01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:52.600
<v Speaker 2>do you? Is that like their cop album?

1707
01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:55.640
<v Speaker 12>No, it's not.

1708
01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:00.760
<v Speaker 4>No no no, no for sure, No, no for sure,

1709
01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:03.319
<v Speaker 4>And basically what one of those like here, here's the

1710
01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:07.399
<v Speaker 4>situation that the gamar is given we don't know how

1711
01:36:07.479 --> 01:36:11.199
<v Speaker 4>to pascan, which means basically how to what the law

1712
01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:11.840
<v Speaker 4>should be.

1713
01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, fair enough, But in that what the talmud

1714
01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>is is the rules of how to act when in

1715
01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:24.159
<v Speaker 1>a foreign land, so to speak.

1716
01:36:25.399 --> 01:36:28.199
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of things that you learn from it,

1717
01:36:28.479 --> 01:36:31.720
<v Speaker 4>but this is not where the law comes from. This

1718
01:36:31.880 --> 01:36:36.359
<v Speaker 4>is how to derive laws from. So like there's it's

1719
01:36:36.399 --> 01:36:38.960
<v Speaker 4>basically it starts with the gamar and then it keeps

1720
01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:42.600
<v Speaker 4>going and going up until he finally got to the

1721
01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:46.000
<v Speaker 4>shulkan Aruch, which basically means that which is the code

1722
01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:50.159
<v Speaker 4>of Jewish law, and that there's a huge way that

1723
01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:52.920
<v Speaker 4>an exhibition, that it went from one to the other,

1724
01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:59.520
<v Speaker 4>to the next to the next, because you don't dictate

1725
01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:02.920
<v Speaker 4>law from the Gamar like here, here's the general rules.

1726
01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:08.640
<v Speaker 4>But as far as like, okay, for example, the titsus

1727
01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:12.399
<v Speaker 4>these strings. Excuse me that a religious jeweill wear on

1728
01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:15.479
<v Speaker 4>the four corners of your garments? What makes that up?

1729
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:18.520
<v Speaker 4>So in the Gamar? I'm not entirely sure where it

1730
01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:22.479
<v Speaker 4>talks about it. However, any code of Jewish law is

1731
01:37:22.600 --> 01:37:24.439
<v Speaker 4>when it codifies it.

1732
01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Got you speaking of do you wear those? By the way,

1733
01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:29.479
<v Speaker 2>the prayer tassels.

1734
01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:31.760
<v Speaker 4>All the time?

1735
01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Good for you, Good for you.

1736
01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:37.079
<v Speaker 4>I also wear mayamaga underneath my hat, and then when

1737
01:37:37.119 --> 01:37:40.359
<v Speaker 4>I can't wear mayamica, I wear my welbing cap. Well.

1738
01:37:40.359 --> 01:37:42.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's also it doesn't necessarily have to be

1739
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>a yamica, correct, as long as it is some sort

1740
01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:46.720
<v Speaker 1>of head covering to remind you that there is God

1741
01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:47.800
<v Speaker 1>above you, right.

1742
01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:53.000
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And by the way, so you've heard the term yamaka, right, yeah?

1743
01:37:53.319 --> 01:37:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever seen it spelled I have not. It's

1744
01:37:57.359 --> 01:38:01.479
<v Speaker 4>like why a r m U l K. And it's like,

1745
01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:04.920
<v Speaker 4>how the hell you get yamaka out of this?

1746
01:38:06.479 --> 01:38:08.720
<v Speaker 2>That's your open And.

1747
01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:13.359
<v Speaker 4>So the answer is that it's so it comes from

1748
01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:18.039
<v Speaker 4>yeu a malka, which means awe a reverence of the king.

1749
01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, sure, So then let me ask you, well, no,

1750
01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess I was about to answer my own question.

1751
01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember we had this one doc, Navy doc. We

1752
01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:33.439
<v Speaker 1>called him juw Doc because he was, oh, I mean,

1753
01:38:33.479 --> 01:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>he was born Southern Baptist, but he married a Jewish

1754
01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:38.399
<v Speaker 1>woman and he went through the whole process of converting

1755
01:38:38.399 --> 01:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to Judaism, and he would wear his yamica in his

1756
01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>camis and all that stuff. By definition, wouldn't a military

1757
01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:49.359
<v Speaker 1>cover like b the equivalent to wearing a yamica as

1758
01:38:49.399 --> 01:38:51.039
<v Speaker 1>long as it was done with that kind of intent.

1759
01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:54.399
<v Speaker 1>But then I guess at that point, if you could

1760
01:38:54.399 --> 01:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>get out of wearing it and also show your faith

1761
01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>outwardly like that, why wouldn't you?

1762
01:38:58.960 --> 01:39:00.600
<v Speaker 2>So I get it album.

1763
01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:02.920
<v Speaker 4>No, So, so, actually that's not gonna be correct.

1764
01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:05.960
<v Speaker 12>So, first of all, when it comes to prayer, there's

1765
01:39:06.039 --> 01:39:07.000
<v Speaker 12>people that wear.

1766
01:39:07.479 --> 01:39:11.199
<v Speaker 4>Two coverings, like whenever you see, let's say religous Jews

1767
01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:13.359
<v Speaker 4>who are in the whaling wall. No, now, we're not

1768
01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:15.600
<v Speaker 4>talking about the morning prayers, because that's when you have

1769
01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:19.880
<v Speaker 4>the full prayer shawl and the filling. However, for the

1770
01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:25.039
<v Speaker 4>afternoon and evening prayers, it's very common to see a

1771
01:39:25.159 --> 01:39:29.399
<v Speaker 4>religious Jewish man wearing a yamaica and a hat. So

1772
01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:32.960
<v Speaker 4>even when I wear my baseball cap around town, underneath

1773
01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:34.000
<v Speaker 4>the yamaca.

1774
01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Yo, what is the name of that the super pimp

1775
01:39:37.840 --> 01:39:40.840
<v Speaker 2>nasty fur hat that you see Hasidic Jews wearing.

1776
01:39:41.439 --> 01:39:47.439
<v Speaker 4>Strim bro that you oh, dude, So first of all,

1777
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:52.119
<v Speaker 4>they're awesome, They're they're amazing, but they are as an expensive.

1778
01:39:51.880 --> 01:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, because it's like full on mink border beaver

1779
01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>fur fox. I've heard of a couple of different ones,

1780
01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>but like, dude, those things are so nasty.

1781
01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I would rock the hell out of one.

1782
01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>If I live somewhere where it was cold, uh in Louisiana,

1783
01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:12.039
<v Speaker 1>that would be just asking to, uh, you know, dehydrate

1784
01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>myself and go down as a heat casualty. But you know,

1785
01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>for the guys that can rock it, I think they're

1786
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:17.199
<v Speaker 1>cool as hell.

1787
01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:20.800
<v Speaker 4>But also, what's really what's really cool about hats. Is

1788
01:40:20.920 --> 01:40:25.399
<v Speaker 4>that if you see various people with different kind of hats,

1789
01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:29.479
<v Speaker 4>that kind of tells you what sect of casilla may follow.

1790
01:40:30.039 --> 01:40:31.439
<v Speaker 2>I remember hearing about this.

1791
01:40:31.680 --> 01:40:34.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because because not every Jew wears the same hat. So,

1792
01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:39.119
<v Speaker 4>for example, even among those who wear yamakas, you have

1793
01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:44.079
<v Speaker 4>the people that wear the ones with velvet on the outside,

1794
01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:47.319
<v Speaker 4>you have ones that are knit. So that's generally somebody

1795
01:40:47.359 --> 01:40:52.079
<v Speaker 4>who is either Orthodox or Modern Orthodox, okay, or and

1796
01:40:52.439 --> 01:40:56.159
<v Speaker 4>you have you have a flat hat, You'll you'll have

1797
01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:59.760
<v Speaker 4>strangles of various sizes. You'll have borsolinos, whether they'd be

1798
01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:04.079
<v Speaker 4>short brimmed and long brimmed, and you have all these various.

1799
01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Who wears it's like it almost looks like an Amish hat,

1800
01:41:07.880 --> 01:41:10.159
<v Speaker 1>but it's black, and it's also pretty pen nasty.

1801
01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:16.560
<v Speaker 4>Probably probably, okay, Yeah, Borcelains boris are very very common,

1802
01:41:16.640 --> 01:41:19.439
<v Speaker 4>especially in the Habad community.

1803
01:41:20.199 --> 01:41:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Word okay, all right, So anyway back to back to

1804
01:41:23.720 --> 01:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>what we are reading here with Sanhedrin forty three A.

1805
01:41:27.319 --> 01:41:29.760
<v Speaker 2>So what exactly are we looking at here?

1806
01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:36.279
<v Speaker 4>So basically, this section of the Gamara is talking about

1807
01:41:36.680 --> 01:41:40.159
<v Speaker 4>if somebody is going to be killed, either the there

1808
01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:42.239
<v Speaker 4>are four ways of killing in the Gamara or in

1809
01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:46.840
<v Speaker 4>the ta stoning, burning and the two other ones I

1810
01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:52.439
<v Speaker 4>don't remember, or strangulation and drowning, I think. Okay, anyway,

1811
01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:55.439
<v Speaker 4>so you have to have so if somebody can get

1812
01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:59.920
<v Speaker 4>testimony that the person is innocent, we try to publish

1813
01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:03.720
<v Speaker 4>eyes that fact. But hey, this person is guilty of

1814
01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:07.479
<v Speaker 4>this crime. If there's anybody that can testify on his behalf,

1815
01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:12.880
<v Speaker 4>come come and testify, because we really want to save

1816
01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:16.159
<v Speaker 4>a life. So this, at least this section of Gamar

1817
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:20.600
<v Speaker 4>is specifically talking about Jesus, which is the whole reason

1818
01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:23.199
<v Speaker 4>why I was wanting to bring it up. And now

1819
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:25.560
<v Speaker 4>this is not the only place in Guar that speaks

1820
01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:29.600
<v Speaker 4>about him. But since I'm studying it as I come

1821
01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:31.720
<v Speaker 4>upon it, I'll let you know. So in the next

1822
01:42:31.720 --> 01:42:34.479
<v Speaker 4>seven years you'll hit the net. You'll we'll hit all

1823
01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:34.800
<v Speaker 4>of them.

1824
01:42:35.159 --> 01:42:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good to me.

1825
01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:36.680
<v Speaker 4>Now.

1826
01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>As far as the times when the Sanhedrin tried to

1827
01:42:39.760 --> 01:42:43.720
<v Speaker 1>kill Jesus, they stoned him once. There was another instance

1828
01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:47.720
<v Speaker 1>when he went to Nazareth and he proclaimed himself the

1829
01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:49.800
<v Speaker 1>son of Man and basically said that he was the

1830
01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:52.720
<v Speaker 1>son of God. His own town folk were attempting to

1831
01:42:53.159 --> 01:42:55.119
<v Speaker 1>kill him for it, but again it wasn't like they

1832
01:42:55.159 --> 01:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>needed a witness because he said this publicly. There was

1833
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:00.159
<v Speaker 1>tons of witnesses. It was there wasn't even need for

1834
01:43:00.199 --> 01:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a trial. It was understood that.

1835
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:04.640
<v Speaker 4>But you still need one. So regardless of whether or

1836
01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:07.960
<v Speaker 4>not it's public or not, there still need to be witnesses.

1837
01:43:08.399 --> 01:43:10.880
<v Speaker 4>And these witnesses have to be credible. They have to

1838
01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:14.640
<v Speaker 4>be Jewish, they have to be men, they have to

1839
01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:17.640
<v Speaker 4>be men, have to be like shower shabas and mintzvahs,

1840
01:43:17.680 --> 01:43:22.399
<v Speaker 4>and so there's actually a lot of different qualifications that

1841
01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:26.359
<v Speaker 4>someone needs to have. So like yeah, yeah, so because

1842
01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:29.680
<v Speaker 4>as you said, so women cannot or can I be

1843
01:43:29.720 --> 01:43:34.960
<v Speaker 4>a witness. Jews who aren't necessarily religious also can't be witnesses.

1844
01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Now think you and I talked about this offline once

1845
01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:39.800
<v Speaker 1>upon a time, or maybe it was on the on Mike,

1846
01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There was a case, and there's been

1847
01:43:43.039 --> 01:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>multiple cases, but one in particular I'm thinking of where

1848
01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:47.439
<v Speaker 1>a husband and a wife.

1849
01:43:48.079 --> 01:43:50.399
<v Speaker 2>The husband was about to.

1850
01:43:50.319 --> 01:43:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Pass away and uh he did, but there was no

1851
01:43:55.079 --> 01:43:58.279
<v Speaker 1>man to witness the death, only the wife. So then

1852
01:43:58.319 --> 01:44:00.479
<v Speaker 1>there was a question if it was murder or not.

1853
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:03.600
<v Speaker 1>And her testimony was worthless because she was a woman

1854
01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and there was no man there to witness the death

1855
01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:08.399
<v Speaker 1>or something along those lines.

1856
01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:14.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember that situation, okay. And as far as that,

1857
01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:18.000
<v Speaker 4>basically what you have is it the general cases if

1858
01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:20.560
<v Speaker 4>someone goes to war and you can't find a body,

1859
01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:25.199
<v Speaker 4>what happened? What is the status of his life? She

1860
01:44:25.479 --> 01:44:28.239
<v Speaker 4>can't she get remarried or not. So let's just say

1861
01:44:28.880 --> 01:44:32.600
<v Speaker 4>they say, all right, well, this person has died and

1862
01:44:32.680 --> 01:44:37.000
<v Speaker 4>she gets remarried. Well, he comes walking into town one day,

1863
01:44:37.279 --> 01:44:40.520
<v Speaker 4>what do you do? So is she prohibited to her husband?

1864
01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:43.039
<v Speaker 4>Is she not prohibited to her husband? Does she need

1865
01:44:43.079 --> 01:44:45.960
<v Speaker 4>to get divorced from the person that she remarried to.

1866
01:44:46.640 --> 01:44:49.239
<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot of different ramifications to these kind

1867
01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:53.560
<v Speaker 4>of questions. Fair, it's not simple at all.

1868
01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so let's read in here again. Thank

1869
01:44:57.159 --> 01:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you for the English translation here, And that's a.

1870
01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:04.039
<v Speaker 2>B yes, says Uh.

1871
01:45:04.079 --> 01:45:08.079
<v Speaker 1>And the crier must also publicly proclaim that the transgression

1872
01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:11.199
<v Speaker 1>was committed on such and such a day, at such

1873
01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and such an hour, and at such and such a

1874
01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>place as Perhaps there are those who know that the

1875
01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>witnesses could not have been in that place at that time,

1876
01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and they will come forward and render the witness conspiring witnesses. Okay,

1877
01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>So they're saying that basically, you have to give your

1878
01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:30.039
<v Speaker 1>entire whereabouts, at the time and place. This can't be

1879
01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:35.119
<v Speaker 1>third party information. I completely understand this. The missiona teaches

1880
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that a crier goes out before the condemned man.

1881
01:45:38.800 --> 01:45:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Real quick, the crier.

1882
01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:47.439
<v Speaker 4>The person who announces the dath, this person. This person

1883
01:45:47.800 --> 01:45:52.439
<v Speaker 4>is different and one more quarter thirty the mission and gamara,

1884
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<v Speaker 4>So what the mission means is like those essentially are

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<v Speaker 4>like the little subject text that it's okay, bus I apologize.

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<v Speaker 4>Initially the Torah was not the not the written Torah,

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<v Speaker 4>but the oral Torah was not written down. However, notes

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<v Speaker 4>were allowed to be taken. So basically, so you had

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<v Speaker 4>this great stage called Jhuda ha Nazi who basically compiled

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<v Speaker 4>all the different teachings from all the different rabbis around

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<v Speaker 4>it and put it in certain orders, so that that's

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<v Speaker 4>called the mission. And then the gamara is what explains it.

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01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:34.560
<v Speaker 4>So when it just said a second ago, when the

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<v Speaker 4>mission it taught, so that's what was originally taught, and

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<v Speaker 4>then the gamara is expounding upon the mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Got you okay, So again the mission to teaches that

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<v Speaker 1>a crier goes out before the condemned man. This indicates

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<v Speaker 1>that if only this indicates that it is only before him,

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<v Speaker 1>i e. While he is being led to his execution.

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<v Speaker 1>That yes, the crier goes out, but from the out

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<v Speaker 1>set before the accused is convicted, he does not go out.

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<v Speaker 1>The gamar raises a difficulty, but it isn't. But isn't

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<v Speaker 1>it taught.

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<v Speaker 2>In a barreta barissa? Okay, explain what on a passover

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<v Speaker 2>Eve that they hung the corpse of Jesus the Nazarene

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<v Speaker 2>after they killed him by way of stoning. So break

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<v Speaker 2>this one down for me here. What is a bratia?

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<v Speaker 4>So a brysa is a mission that was not written down.

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<v Speaker 4>It's something that was taught and that's known but was

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<v Speaker 4>not written down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like an oral torah kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 4>An of the oral tora essentially, just it was not

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<v Speaker 4>written down but it's still known about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, got you.

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<v Speaker 1>On Passover Eve they hung the corpse of Jesus the

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<v Speaker 1>Nazarene after they killed him by way of stoning. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't kill him by way of stoning. They attempted to.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was on Passover eve. He was hung a

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01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>week after passover. So I'm not sure exactly what's meant here.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, basically, this is I don't want to call

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<v Speaker 4>it revision, revision's history. But according to what this Gamari

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<v Speaker 4>is saying, there is a difference in what the town

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<v Speaker 4>would have arguingly happened as opposed to how Christianity says.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, Now I do know that he was

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<v Speaker 1>stoned outside of the temple in the women's what's not

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<v Speaker 1>the women's.

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<v Speaker 2>Circle, what's it called women's quarter, the women's Yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>They attempted to stone him there, but he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to make a getaway at that time. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was not too long after that when he he was

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<v Speaker 1>crucified in all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's heard the story. Are we say talking about

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<v Speaker 4>like the whole allegory that says, you know, he who

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<v Speaker 4>has who he doesn't have cassa first own? Is that

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<v Speaker 4>what we're talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, completely different, completely different. Time.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to the tip simple steps and started preaching

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<v Speaker 1>his message that he was the Messiah. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sadducees and the Pharisees were standing there, and as

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<v Speaker 1>far as needing a witness goes, there was multiple of

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<v Speaker 1>them that were standing there listening to this, So there

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01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>really wasn't a need for a trial. Like I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody gets their day in court, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>ten to fifteen high ranking Sanhedrin members that are hearing

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<v Speaker 1>with their own ear holes this guy say these things.

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<v Speaker 1>So at that point it's like, oh, well, open and shut, man,

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01:49:34.079 --> 01:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>we could just get after it here. So he did

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<v Speaker 1>make his escape on that one, but it was not

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<v Speaker 1>too long after whenever he had his day on Calgary

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01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and the whole shebang. But going off of this here

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01:49:45.920 --> 01:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it says and a crier went out before him for

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<v Speaker 1>forty days publicly proclaiming, Jesus the Nazarene is going out

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01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to be stoned because he practiced sorcery, incited people to

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01:49:56.680 --> 01:49:59.760
<v Speaker 1>idle worship, and led the Jewish people astray. Anyone who

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01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:02.119
<v Speaker 1>knows of a reason to acquit him should come forward

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<v Speaker 1>and teach it on his behalf. And the court did

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<v Speaker 1>not find a reason to acquit him, and so they

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01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:13.359
<v Speaker 1>stoned him and hung his corpse on Passover Eve. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is like, what'd you call it? It was a

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<v Speaker 1>not pseudohistory. You said it was something else.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, revisit his history. So I'm not arguing which

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<v Speaker 4>one is correct or not. Obviously, so I was not

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<v Speaker 4>there right, right, right, But Christianity teaches a certain way.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is at least how the Gamara is presenting

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<v Speaker 4>what happened. That he was not hung on across that

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<v Speaker 4>he was stoned first and then his corpse was hung.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting although, and this is also a point that I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to I'm gonna remember this seeing Hedrin forty three.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, that so many people that we have

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01:50:52.640 --> 01:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>had on the cult of conspiracy, one of them Mike

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01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:58.079
<v Speaker 1>ald Dank, who doesn't believe that Jesus was a real dude.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like even the people that wanted him dead

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01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:04.399
<v Speaker 1>wrote about him. So, I mean, it's it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you can even the most prolific atheist scholars will say

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<v Speaker 1>that if anything can be confirmed about Jesus is that

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01:51:12.279 --> 01:51:15.319
<v Speaker 1>he did in fact live and die in Jerusalem, like

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01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:17.720
<v Speaker 1>he died in Jerusalem. Like that's not that's not even

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<v Speaker 1>something that can be debated by any points that's understood

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<v Speaker 1>to be facts. So when you hear people say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well Jesus was more like a metaphor. He wasn't actually

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01:51:25.560 --> 01:51:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a real guy that walk the earth. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then pretty much every bit of what you're about to

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<v Speaker 1>say next I can't even get down with because if

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<v Speaker 1>that's the lack of research you've done to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most understood factual things throughout history, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know where to go from there.

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<v Speaker 4>So correct, you have to, you have to, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to at least start on the same basis. So if

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<v Speaker 4>some if there's an atheist in someone who's religious speaking

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01:51:48.880 --> 01:51:53.239
<v Speaker 4>or whatever religion wanted to be Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 4>If de can't start off with by saying the Bible,

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<v Speaker 4>whichever Bible there or their wholely scripture are accurate and

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<v Speaker 4>correct and true, then there is no point of arguing.

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<v Speaker 4>So if an atheist or someone who doesn't believe some

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<v Speaker 4>things that great better example, I don't believe the New Testament.

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<v Speaker 4>Fair so if you so, if you bring me a

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<v Speaker 4>proof text from the New Testament saying hey this is

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<v Speaker 4>what I believe, I can say, fantastic, that's awesome. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't believe that. So we can't ever be on that

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01:52:25.720 --> 01:52:26.439
<v Speaker 4>same line.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on what the thing is though, And I

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01:52:29.319 --> 01:52:32.159
<v Speaker 1>usually whenever I have this debate with people, I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>to write out the rip Negate, all the miracles described

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01:52:36.239 --> 01:52:38.079
<v Speaker 1>by Jesus and all these because that's the whole point

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01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:41.199
<v Speaker 1>of a miracle, right, It's something that cannot be confirmed

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01:52:41.199 --> 01:52:43.279
<v Speaker 1>by any other source. And like, I get that, But

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01:52:43.359 --> 01:52:46.119
<v Speaker 1>there is certain key historical things that happen in the

2009
01:52:46.159 --> 01:52:50.439
<v Speaker 1>New Testament, right, Diocletian coming after all the Christians and

2010
01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:53.680
<v Speaker 1>torching their cities and all these things, Saul of Tarsus

2011
01:52:53.800 --> 01:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>killing Christians for a good while, Like, these things are

2012
01:52:56.640 --> 01:52:59.479
<v Speaker 1>historically based. So usually what I'll do is when I

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01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:01.520
<v Speaker 1>get in these bits of people, it's like, okay, let's

2014
01:53:01.520 --> 01:53:04.720
<v Speaker 1>start off with a baseline. Can we agree that Pontius

2015
01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Pilot was the third governor of Judea in thirty eighty.

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01:53:09.399 --> 01:53:13.439
<v Speaker 1>That's usually a line that regardless of whatever religious and

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01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:17.720
<v Speaker 1>socioeconomic and whatever things that you got, most people can

2018
01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:19.840
<v Speaker 1>at least get down on that one because it's written

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<v Speaker 1>about by the Roman sources. And you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that history is a lot agreed upon and

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01:53:25.960 --> 01:53:28.319
<v Speaker 1>history is written by the victors, and like, I get that.

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01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:32.399
<v Speaker 1>With it, one hundred percent right, But that's pretty much

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01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:36.800
<v Speaker 1>an understood fact, I would think anyway, So from there

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01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:38.119
<v Speaker 1>away at least built outward.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, for sure, I understand what you're saying as far

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01:53:41.680 --> 01:53:44.399
<v Speaker 4>as the historical. So right now, let's say we would

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01:53:44.680 --> 01:53:48.680
<v Speaker 4>so you and I would not be arguing the historical

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<v Speaker 4>precedence that there was this person Jesus anadis nazarresk excuse me,

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<v Speaker 4>So both of us would be on that same mutual page. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>what happened after that? And you've said at this point

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01:54:00.439 --> 01:54:04.199
<v Speaker 4>of time before, there's a difference between whether somebody believes

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<v Speaker 4>he said of God and is high or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, It's the same as like saying like, oh,

2034
01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe Mohammad existed because I mean, nothing was

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01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:15.760
<v Speaker 2>written about him until after he died, and we have

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01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:18.520
<v Speaker 2>no depictions of him because forbidden to write anything down

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01:54:18.560 --> 01:54:21.600
<v Speaker 2>about him. This is just mass psychosis and it's all

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01:54:21.640 --> 01:54:22.239
<v Speaker 2>some big friends.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, I can at least acknowledge that your

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01:54:26.239 --> 01:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>boy Mohammad lived and walked to the earth at one

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01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:31.319
<v Speaker 1>point in time. Now, whether he was the prophet or not,

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01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:34.479
<v Speaker 1>we can debate that point. But like I agree that

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01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Mohammad was a real dude, you know. It's it's the

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01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:39.720
<v Speaker 1>little stuff like that, and you'll find these people that

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01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:43.680
<v Speaker 1>are just unwilling to even conversate on it because it's

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01:54:43.800 --> 01:54:45.479
<v Speaker 1>just goes against their whole thesis.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, well then you need to rework your thesis. Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know, but anyway, all right, so

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's continue this.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is that ullah or ullah Ullah? I think Jula said,

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01:55:01.800 --> 01:55:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and how can you understand this proof? Was Jesus the

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01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:07.800
<v Speaker 1>nazarene worthy of conducting a search for a reason to

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01:55:07.840 --> 01:55:11.479
<v Speaker 1>acquit him? He was an inciter to idle worship, and

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01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:15.199
<v Speaker 1>the merciful one states, with regard to an insider to

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01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:19.520
<v Speaker 1>idle worship, neither shall you spare, neither shall you conceal him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Deuteronomy thirteen to nine. Rather, Jesus was different, as

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01:55:23.520 --> 01:55:26.800
<v Speaker 1>he had close ties with the government and the gentile

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01:55:26.800 --> 01:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>authorities were interested in his acquittal. Consequently, the court gave

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01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>him every opportunity to clear himself so that it could

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01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:36.479
<v Speaker 1>be not be so that it could not be claimed

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01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:38.359
<v Speaker 1>that he was falsely convicted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he he was brought before a trial and they

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<v Speaker 1>gave him all the chances to recant his statements and

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<v Speaker 1>all the things.

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<v Speaker 2>And he he went down, sticking to it one hundred percent. Apropause. Apropos, apropos, apropos,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, apropos.

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<v Speaker 1>The trial of Jesus. The Gamara cites another brasa.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I say it right?

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<v Speaker 4>Brysa?

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<v Speaker 2>Damn it? Brysa?

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<v Speaker 1>Where the sages taught Jesus and Nazarene had five disciples Matte, Nakay, Netzer, Boonie,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tode. I'm sure I butchered those names. Apologies, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't speak, you know, the Kamara.

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<v Speaker 2>They brought Matthai, which I think would be the Jewish

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01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:23.159
<v Speaker 2>name nephew. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically into stand trial, Matthew said that to the judges,

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<v Speaker 1>shall Matthew be executed? But isn't it written when matt

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01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:36.279
<v Speaker 1>isn't it written when Matthew? Shall I come to appear

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01:56:36.319 --> 01:56:38.680
<v Speaker 1>before God? That Psalms forty two to three.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt hawaian one second holi. So in that case, Matthai

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01:56:42.600 --> 01:56:46.399
<v Speaker 4>is the Hebrew word for when. So they're so they're

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01:56:46.439 --> 01:56:52.520
<v Speaker 4>saying they're using a synonym. So Matai being a disciple,

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01:56:52.680 --> 01:56:58.279
<v Speaker 4>and Mattai mean win. So doesn't averse say this? So

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<v Speaker 4>almost everything in them. When it comes to using proof,

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01:57:01.239 --> 01:57:06.640
<v Speaker 4>text always backs things up with scripture, so regardless of

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01:57:06.720 --> 01:57:10.159
<v Speaker 4>whether so regardless of whether it comes so it doesn't

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01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:14.159
<v Speaker 4>always come from the Torah. So one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that you've said before, then maybe you can actually help

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<v Speaker 4>me answer this question because I don't necessarily know usily

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<v Speaker 4>there are some Jews that don't believe that the everything

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<v Speaker 4>that anything after the Torah is followed. To help me

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<v Speaker 4>understand that, because that's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if it currently is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do know during the time of Jesus there

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<v Speaker 1>was a group and I'm not sure, actually no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to look this up because was that explained to me?

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<v Speaker 4>What so a sadduccee as someone who only so they

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<v Speaker 4>still believed in the entire Bible.

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<v Speaker 12>But what they did is that they did not believe.

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<v Speaker 4>In the torriship pay the oral trition. They only believed

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<v Speaker 4>in the written So for example, but when it says

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<v Speaker 4>talks about the film, you should bind them upon your

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<v Speaker 4>armed and should be a reminder between your eyes, they

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<v Speaker 4>have their own tradition what that meant, and they actually

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<v Speaker 4>tried to put the film literally in between your eyes,

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<v Speaker 4>by your nose, as opposed to where Jews wear it

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<v Speaker 4>on the top of their head.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they are called the Karrite k a k

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<v Speaker 2>write Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The k write Jews are the Jewish religious group that

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<v Speaker 1>primarily adhere to the written tour of the first five

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<v Speaker 1>books of the Hebrew Bible and reject the oral Torah,

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<v Speaker 1>including the Mishnah and Talmud. According to the Jewish Virtual Library,

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<v Speaker 1>they consider the Tanakh to be the supreme authority in

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<v Speaker 1>religious law and theology.

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<v Speaker 4>Chanak, by the way, is an acronym for Torah, which

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<v Speaker 4>is the Torah, the Nvim, which is prophets, and the

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<v Speaker 4>two Vim, which is the writings.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, and I don't even know how many of

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<v Speaker 1>them there are today.

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<v Speaker 2>I do know that they exist.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a group that has always existed, it

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<v Speaker 1>says the historical context here. The separation betwe the Karaike

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<v Speaker 1>and Rabbinic Judaism began in the eighth century CE, with

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<v Speaker 1>figures like Anon Ben David playing a key role in

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<v Speaker 1>the development of the Karaite beliefs.

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<v Speaker 2>The Charats have a long history of resisting rabbinic authority

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<v Speaker 2>and advocating for a literal interpretation of the Torah. Huh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>In essence, the karte Jews are a group within Judaism

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<v Speaker 1>who prioritize the written Tora over the oral tour and

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<v Speaker 1>its interpretations, emphasizing a direct and literal understanding of the scriptures.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, which doesn't make anything, which doesn't make any sense

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<v Speaker 4>coming from someone who's Jewish, because you can't understand the

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<v Speaker 4>written text if you don't have an oral companion that

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<v Speaker 4>goes along with it. So the tillin is one example

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<v Speaker 4>of that. Another example, would we just strings? It's something

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<v Speaker 4>that sits us, right, So like how many strings, what color?

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<v Speaker 4>Or how do we know what kind of garment it

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<v Speaker 4>needs to go on? What is a garment that is appropriate?

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<v Speaker 4>What the garment is not appropriate? All this is derived

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<v Speaker 4>from the oral Torah, so like you can't understand the

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<v Speaker 4>written without the oral.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what I'm saying, Like, okay, it's it helped

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<v Speaker 2>me out here when the Torah was written down, that

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<v Speaker 2>was written by Moses after they had left the slavery

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<v Speaker 2>in Egypt.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, Really, we have a tradition that she wrote the

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<v Speaker 4>tour of the day before he died, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, right, So and that's before they even got

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Promised Land because he was not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to enter. Well he wasn't, but they had retaken the

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<v Speaker 1>land before he died.

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<v Speaker 4>No, correct, so no they did not. The Torah ends

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<v Speaker 4>with the children of Israel right about to cross over

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<v Speaker 4>the Jordan River.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's been a while since I read the ot,

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<v Speaker 1>so forgive me, but okay. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>there were some oral traditions that were understood to be

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<v Speaker 1>before Moses ever started to write things down, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if these this group of Jewish people adhere

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<v Speaker 1>to the oral Torah up until Moses or all these

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<v Speaker 1>other things come after that.

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<v Speaker 4>So one one of the traditions that we have is

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<v Speaker 4>that when Moses brought down the Ten Commandments and the

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<v Speaker 4>Torah in general from God, he also passed on the

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<v Speaker 4>oral transmission to it. So both of them were hand

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<v Speaker 4>in hand. So it's not that one was written down

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<v Speaker 4>and one came way later. By the time it was

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<v Speaker 4>codified in uh In in Babylonia, it would be they've

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<v Speaker 4>they've literally known this ever since that. So so for example,

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<v Speaker 4>to fill on, I keep going back to these. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a fantastic example is because we know. That says that

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<v Speaker 4>the only reason why we know that it needs to

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<v Speaker 4>be square, that how how it's everything is put together,

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<v Speaker 4>is because we have a tradition, because that's what from

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<v Speaker 4>Moses from outside. I yeah, period. So like there's traditions

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<v Speaker 4>that we had only because of that. So that's one

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<v Speaker 4>of the reasons why we know is that both of

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<v Speaker 4>them were brought down at the exact same time, not

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<v Speaker 4>one first and then the other one later.

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<v Speaker 1>Got you, okay, So yeah, I don't understand it either.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like you would have more of

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<v Speaker 1>a standpoint on this one than I would, because I

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<v Speaker 1>knew there were certain groups that like and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same with like Christianity, right, there are certain groups that

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge the New Testament but hate the Apostle Paul, even

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<v Speaker 1>though he wrote most of the New Testament.

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<v Speaker 2>They just like negate everything that he wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's others that like specifically only talk about like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Gospels of course, but only talk about what.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul wrote because he was like the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's other groups of Christians that for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>only acknowledge the Old Testament and like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the Gospels. It's there's so many different people that

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<v Speaker 1>have their own versions of it in like which sections

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<v Speaker 1>they find to be more important than the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>And I personally don't understand that. I think the entirety

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<v Speaker 2>of it is needed to get the entire scope.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, and in the same sense, let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, and we've talked about the Kabbala before and

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<v Speaker 1>how that is, you can't even start studying the Kabbala

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<v Speaker 1>until you're forty.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm not mistaken. In Hebrew tradition, you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It shouldn't. But you also need to study a lot beforehand, right,

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<v Speaker 4>You need you need a basis in Torah and profits

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<v Speaker 4>and the writing and the talent with before you even

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<v Speaker 4>get to that. That's like, it's like there's a gamatria, right,

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<v Speaker 4>so we have a tradition that gamatria is need there

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<v Speaker 4>need to be a tradition for it. So for example,

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<v Speaker 4>these people that come up with this red numbers, well,

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<v Speaker 4>forty three equals this, which means.

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<v Speaker 12>This like, that's honestly a bunch of nonsense and bullshit really.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it needs absolutely worth. So first, so here is

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<v Speaker 4>a real world gamacho example. So there is a portion

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<v Speaker 4>in the Torah that basically Moses's name is not mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>one little bit and all the other two in the

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<v Speaker 4>in the Tora obviously before Moses mentioned he's not going

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<v Speaker 4>to be there. But basically, starting from Exodus, where Moses

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<v Speaker 4>has been introduced, until the very end, there's never a

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<v Speaker 4>portion that he is his name is not mentioned except

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<v Speaker 4>for one. And with that being said, so the question

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<v Speaker 4>is why so the following porsha portion is called a

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<v Speaker 4>parsha basically when it was after the Jews had sinned,

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<v Speaker 4>and God told Moses, look how about this, let me

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<v Speaker 4>destroy the people and I'll start over with you. And

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<v Speaker 4>what Moses said is if if you do that, take

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<v Speaker 4>my name, take my name out of the eu Torah.

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<v Speaker 4>And we know that a prophet's where it cannot not

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<v Speaker 4>be abided by. So there so, therefore the previous parsha,

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<v Speaker 4>his name was not there directly in that portion there

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<v Speaker 4>there are various numbers or a number of verses, right,

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<v Speaker 4>so that one was one hundred and one versus, which

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<v Speaker 4>seems random. However, if you take Moses' name, so there's

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<v Speaker 4>a way in Hebrew to write things out in full

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<v Speaker 4>or not so for example, like the letter M for example,

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<v Speaker 4>so mem So even though it's its own letter, just

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<v Speaker 4>being one letter. It can be written out as mem

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<v Speaker 4>mem so sheen also so sheen, yod nun and hey

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<v Speaker 4>hey you and alif were Actually there's like four different

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<v Speaker 4>ways of spelling that, but I digress and either so

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<v Speaker 4>the hidden letters of Moses's name, if you add those up,

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<v Speaker 4>actually equals one hundred and one. So this so this

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<v Speaker 4>is this is this, So this is a this is

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<v Speaker 4>a goa maatria that's actually known about and we've had

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<v Speaker 4>we have a tradition for so this, So this is

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<v Speaker 4>so as opposed to somebody who said, all right, well

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<v Speaker 4>the so T is you know, is the seventeenth letter,

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<v Speaker 4>and H is in the bunch of nonsense bullshites or

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<v Speaker 4>when whenever these people come up with these nonsensical things

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<v Speaker 4>and the gamatria of they have no idea what the

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<v Speaker 4>fuck they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you the jamatri or gumatra excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>the gomatria calculator that you can google search real quick

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<v Speaker 1>and just put in a term a word. Whatever is

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<v Speaker 1>it doing the calculations correctly or is it doing it

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<v Speaker 1>based off of like you said, T is seventeen uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh A is one, and it's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of adding it up that way, and it's just whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's looking at whatever words also equal the same thing, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean correct, So so like I'm not saying that there's

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<v Speaker 4>there might not necessarily be a correlation. However, just like

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<v Speaker 4>the brand I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, no, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, so, as you know, Hebrew also has numerical equivalent,

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<v Speaker 4>So a is one, b is two three, you know

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<v Speaker 4>one bait is to give all three, et cetera. So

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<v Speaker 4>matric calculator, all it does is just adding up the letters. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>well this this word has the same numerical value as this.

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<v Speaker 4>Does that mean that they're related, as I said, unless

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<v Speaker 4>there is a specific tradition for it. Fine, like so

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<v Speaker 4>for example, maybe offline, I'll tell you these. But there's

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<v Speaker 4>a there was a a book written by I called

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<v Speaker 4>the Bnea Sastar. I don't grow the reason why, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's the name of the book. Anyway, So this guy,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy goes through a lot of goa matria about

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<v Speaker 4>Shabis and like, well this equal seven, and that equal

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<v Speaker 4>seven in kala and and narrow. So like so there

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<v Speaker 4>there are people that had had a kabbala, had a

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<v Speaker 4>tradition for it, but it's not everybody. And that's like

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<v Speaker 4>the cream of the crop, like you need to so

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<v Speaker 4>you need to learn how to read before you know,

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<v Speaker 4>before you start reading like a dictionary, you know. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's or I guess a better analogy is like dinner,

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<v Speaker 4>like you need you need to eat your meat potatoes

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<v Speaker 4>before you get to the dessert. Like it's a cream

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<v Speaker 4>of the crop like, but but it's not. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>the whole bulk of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you, Yeah, and I mean Jonathan will do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but not just him.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had so many guests that will come on and

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<v Speaker 2>they will break down words.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's English gomatria Hebrew gomatra which.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is really okay, that's just ridiculous people that try

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<v Speaker 4>to use them English for it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, come on, what's the difference between the English

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02:09:13.039 --> 02:09:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and the Hebrew. How many letters are in the Hebrew.

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<v Speaker 4>Alphabet twenty two slash twenty seven. There are twenty two

2301
02:09:21.279 --> 02:09:25.000
<v Speaker 4>normal letters. However, there are five letters that if they're

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02:09:25.039 --> 02:09:28.399
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the word, they change their form.

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02:09:28.680 --> 02:09:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so hold on.

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02:09:31.399 --> 02:09:33.960
<v Speaker 12>English has capital letters in non capital letters.

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02:09:34.119 --> 02:09:38.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the exact same thing, except twenty two letters don't

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02:09:38.079 --> 02:09:40.319
<v Speaker 4>have it, and only and add those twenty two letters.

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02:09:40.560 --> 02:09:43.039
<v Speaker 4>If one of those five letters come at the end

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02:09:43.079 --> 02:09:47.159
<v Speaker 4>of the word, it looks different. It's a final form. Okay,

2309
02:09:47.399 --> 02:09:49.840
<v Speaker 4>So I imagine like a capital at the very end.

2310
02:09:51.279 --> 02:09:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So then I guess it depends like the first letter

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02:09:54.960 --> 02:09:57.920
<v Speaker 1>in the Hebrew alphabet, is it equivalent to the English

2312
02:09:58.000 --> 02:10:02.239
<v Speaker 1>A or is that just something that we have done.

2313
02:10:02.239 --> 02:10:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Whenever you look at the alphabets next to each other.

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02:10:04.199 --> 02:10:08.840
<v Speaker 4>The equivalent, I mean they are they look that, they

2315
02:10:08.840 --> 02:10:10.840
<v Speaker 4>do not look anything close to each other.

2316
02:10:10.920 --> 02:10:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean, I guess that's as I'm saying, do

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02:10:13.560 --> 02:10:14.640
<v Speaker 1>that is an equivalent.

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02:10:14.680 --> 02:10:17.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like equivalent in what way? Is like a vowel,

2319
02:10:17.840 --> 02:10:20.239
<v Speaker 2>which I mean, I mean the Hebrew leg which he

2320
02:10:20.279 --> 02:10:21.439
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have vowels.

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02:10:21.159 --> 02:10:26.159
<v Speaker 4>Right, No, right, I mean not really no.

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02:10:26.640 --> 02:10:30.760
<v Speaker 1>So so basically the Hebrew alphabet essentially, and I know

2323
02:10:30.800 --> 02:10:34.159
<v Speaker 1>there's some some leeway on this, some gray area is

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02:10:34.199 --> 02:10:39.640
<v Speaker 1>somewhere between twenty two to twenty seven consonants essentially, and

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02:10:39.680 --> 02:10:43.159
<v Speaker 1>I know this is not a apples to apples comparison here.

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02:10:43.600 --> 02:10:46.800
<v Speaker 4>But essentially yeah, right.

2327
02:10:46.520 --> 02:10:49.359
<v Speaker 1>And then we're trying to attribute numbers to them to

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02:10:49.600 --> 02:10:52.119
<v Speaker 1>equal up to something, which I understand, I get it,

2329
02:10:52.760 --> 02:10:55.960
<v Speaker 1>but then the English camatra that makes more sense to me. Right,

2330
02:10:56.039 --> 02:10:58.000
<v Speaker 1>A is one, B is two, C is three, and

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02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:00.520
<v Speaker 1>then you do it that way. But then that just

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02:11:00.560 --> 02:11:03.239
<v Speaker 1>seems like a bastardization to me personally, or like a

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02:11:03.239 --> 02:11:06.079
<v Speaker 1>code like a cipher which and if that's what you're doing,

2334
02:11:06.079 --> 02:11:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and if it's an English cipher code like that, then fine, okay,

2335
02:11:11.640 --> 02:11:15.079
<v Speaker 1>But to say that it's immediately some sort of significance

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02:11:15.159 --> 02:11:17.560
<v Speaker 1>because of Gomatria on the English side of.

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02:11:17.520 --> 02:11:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Things, I right, right, Because I mean, for example, if

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02:11:20.640 --> 02:11:22.960
<v Speaker 4>you want to write a number out in Hebrew, it

2339
02:11:23.000 --> 02:11:27.680
<v Speaker 4>does we do not have the uh what are those called?

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02:11:27.760 --> 02:11:30.880
<v Speaker 4>Like like a one, two, three? Before I forget numbers

2341
02:11:31.119 --> 02:11:33.039
<v Speaker 4>like yeah, I mean what are the numbers called. There's

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02:11:33.039 --> 02:11:34.000
<v Speaker 4>a specific word for it.

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02:11:35.520 --> 02:11:38.439
<v Speaker 12>In other case, it's like so there, so like a

2344
02:11:38.560 --> 02:11:39.680
<v Speaker 12>number looks like a number.

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02:11:40.319 --> 02:11:43.760
<v Speaker 4>Right. So However, whenever you have a book that's written

2346
02:11:43.840 --> 02:11:47.039
<v Speaker 4>and there's like it says, you know, page ten, right,

2347
02:11:47.039 --> 02:11:49.439
<v Speaker 4>there's gonna be a you it on top, so there

2348
02:11:49.640 --> 02:11:54.399
<v Speaker 4>there will be letters up top of the page because

2349
02:11:54.399 --> 02:11:56.680
<v Speaker 4>that's how actual heat who works.

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02:11:57.000 --> 02:11:57.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of like.

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02:11:59.840 --> 02:12:03.479
<v Speaker 12>That hard numbers correct, So right, there, it is not.

2352
02:12:03.640 --> 02:12:05.800
<v Speaker 4>It is not separate. So it's not like you have

2353
02:12:05.920 --> 02:12:09.159
<v Speaker 4>you have numbers and you have letters and Hebrew the

2354
02:12:09.279 --> 02:12:13.119
<v Speaker 4>letters can have a numerical equivalent.

2355
02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Got you. Yeah, that's right, because I remember that one

2356
02:12:16.960 --> 02:12:19.319
<v Speaker 2>chick was going off on a tangent about the Monster

2357
02:12:19.439 --> 02:12:23.159
<v Speaker 2>can logo and how the uh, the three claw marks

2358
02:12:23.199 --> 02:12:27.199
<v Speaker 2>down the can looks like the Hebrew six number, so.

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02:12:27.920 --> 02:12:31.600
<v Speaker 12>That's it's a reach. But technically that's true.

2360
02:12:31.600 --> 02:12:36.920
<v Speaker 4>So if you draw three lines in Hebrew, yes, which

2361
02:12:36.960 --> 02:12:41.159
<v Speaker 4>is the Hebrew letter vove, which has the numerical equivalent

2362
02:12:41.199 --> 02:12:44.239
<v Speaker 4>of six, So yes, that is a thing. But that

2363
02:12:44.399 --> 02:12:46.159
<v Speaker 4>is so far reaching.

2364
02:12:46.399 --> 02:12:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Come on, that was a That was a very far

2365
02:12:49.239 --> 02:12:53.199
<v Speaker 1>reach by that woman. But man, she was Oh she

2366
02:12:53.359 --> 02:12:56.520
<v Speaker 1>was feeling so righteous about that too, and just the

2367
02:12:56.560 --> 02:12:59.520
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Unleash the beast, it says on the back

2368
02:12:59.520 --> 02:13:01.199
<v Speaker 1>of the can, MILFs love it.

2369
02:13:01.680 --> 02:13:04.359
<v Speaker 2>What a good Christian company? Since when did Monster ever

2370
02:13:04.359 --> 02:13:07.119
<v Speaker 2>claim to be a They're owned by Coca Cola, Like

2371
02:13:07.239 --> 02:13:09.359
<v Speaker 2>the company that they are owned by used to give

2372
02:13:09.439 --> 02:13:11.560
<v Speaker 2>cocaine to people in a bottle? What are we talking

2373
02:13:11.560 --> 02:13:15.319
<v Speaker 2>about here? But like, yeah, that lady was one of

2374
02:13:15.359 --> 02:13:19.119
<v Speaker 2>the most ladies that there's there's ever been. Some might say, you.

2375
02:13:19.680 --> 02:13:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Have some very interesting people and just some there's times

2376
02:13:23.239 --> 02:13:24.960
<v Speaker 4>where I just need to shake my head and you're like,

2377
02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:31.239
<v Speaker 4>I understand kind of like your line of thought, but

2378
02:13:31.479 --> 02:13:32.680
<v Speaker 4>sometimes you're just retarded.

2379
02:13:33.520 --> 02:13:37.520
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, if that's true realistically, if that's true,

2380
02:13:39.279 --> 02:13:41.319
<v Speaker 2>So you're saying that for people to wear the mark

2381
02:13:41.319 --> 02:13:44.159
<v Speaker 2>of the beast on their foreheads or on their hands,

2382
02:13:43.960 --> 02:13:47.840
<v Speaker 2>as as the end time prophecy tells us everybody is

2383
02:13:47.880 --> 02:13:50.640
<v Speaker 2>going to be wearing a monster logo like.

2384
02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:53.680
<v Speaker 1>On a beanie but like the entire world to make

2385
02:13:53.760 --> 02:13:55.680
<v Speaker 1>sales happen, or on their wrists.

2386
02:13:55.720 --> 02:13:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Like I I.

2387
02:13:57.560 --> 02:13:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Feel like that's a bit of a stretch that we

2388
02:13:59.560 --> 02:14:02.319
<v Speaker 1>have monopoly laws in place to keep everybody, you know

2389
02:14:02.359 --> 02:14:02.800
<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

2390
02:14:03.359 --> 02:14:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know.

2391
02:14:05.239 --> 02:14:14.720
<v Speaker 1>She yeah, yeah, oh fun times, fun times anyway, all right,

2392
02:14:14.760 --> 02:14:17.720
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I am very happy that you sent me

2393
02:14:17.800 --> 02:14:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the Sanhedrin forty three A that talks about Jesus. Now

2394
02:14:22.600 --> 02:14:24.920
<v Speaker 1>as far as the historical precedents, as far as what

2395
02:14:25.119 --> 02:14:29.399
<v Speaker 1>happened with his death and all these things. Fine, Uh,

2396
02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:36.760
<v Speaker 1>is there any possibility that the written Sanhedron there was Uh,

2397
02:14:38.479 --> 02:14:42.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sound insulting, is there any chance

2398
02:14:42.119 --> 02:14:46.039
<v Speaker 1>that the accounts written about were skewed or altered in

2399
02:14:46.039 --> 02:14:46.479
<v Speaker 1>some way.

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02:14:48.920 --> 02:14:53.439
<v Speaker 4>I was, I would hesitate to say no, so coming

2401
02:14:53.800 --> 02:14:57.560
<v Speaker 4>coming from coming from an oral flar Jewish perspective, that

2402
02:14:57.720 --> 02:15:03.159
<v Speaker 4>since we believe that the uh Tori chavalpey has some

2403
02:15:03.880 --> 02:15:07.760
<v Speaker 4>status at the very least of uh they're written torah,

2404
02:15:07.800 --> 02:15:11.960
<v Speaker 4>and that I would say not so according according to

2405
02:15:12.000 --> 02:15:13.039
<v Speaker 4>what the talent is.

2406
02:15:13.079 --> 02:15:17.479
<v Speaker 2>So I no, hmm, okay.

2407
02:15:18.399 --> 02:15:21.520
<v Speaker 4>And I knew I'm going to ask somebody else that

2408
02:15:21.600 --> 02:15:24.279
<v Speaker 4>I know about it. Honestly I forgot, I forgot to

2409
02:15:24.319 --> 02:15:26.800
<v Speaker 4>do I forgot to do so before that point. But

2410
02:15:27.159 --> 02:15:30.960
<v Speaker 4>I plan on asking someone who is much more knowledgeable

2411
02:15:30.960 --> 02:15:31.600
<v Speaker 4>than I am.

2412
02:15:32.079 --> 02:15:33.920
<v Speaker 1>And while you're at it, can you please because I

2413
02:15:34.479 --> 02:15:36.119
<v Speaker 1>actually I'm just going to do my own research on

2414
02:15:36.119 --> 02:15:38.840
<v Speaker 1>this one. The talent, it says, and we've talked about

2415
02:15:38.840 --> 02:15:43.000
<v Speaker 1>this before. The talment has a couple of uh really outland.

2416
02:15:42.960 --> 02:15:44.680
<v Speaker 4>I said, I tell you a whole I sent you

2417
02:15:44.720 --> 02:15:47.720
<v Speaker 4>a video from Rabbie Singer about that whole thing general.

2418
02:15:47.880 --> 02:15:51.199
<v Speaker 4>So generally things are taking extremely out of context because

2419
02:15:51.399 --> 02:15:54.319
<v Speaker 4>so you officially have read a page of the Gamara,

2420
02:15:54.760 --> 02:15:57.039
<v Speaker 4>So oh my god, Well, I can't wait for the

2421
02:15:57.039 --> 02:15:58.600
<v Speaker 4>conspiracies about this ship.

2422
02:16:00.560 --> 02:16:01.119
<v Speaker 10>What like.

2423
02:16:01.800 --> 02:16:04.680
<v Speaker 4>But you see this, this is trying to find what

2424
02:16:04.840 --> 02:16:09.239
<v Speaker 4>the Bible is trying to say. Where they're they're quoting scripture,

2425
02:16:09.279 --> 02:16:15.199
<v Speaker 4>they are being extremely precise. So the people that say,

2426
02:16:15.239 --> 02:16:17.199
<v Speaker 4>all right, well you know the Tomorrow talks about this

2427
02:16:17.319 --> 02:16:20.840
<v Speaker 4>and that like, so you saw for yourself how much

2428
02:16:20.920 --> 02:16:24.479
<v Speaker 4>subtext there was. So imagine trying to read what you

2429
02:16:24.560 --> 02:16:31.960
<v Speaker 4>did before except only the bold, not anything else. So

2430
02:16:32.040 --> 02:16:36.399
<v Speaker 4>all it's it's not easy. It is very very complicated,

2431
02:16:37.159 --> 02:16:41.159
<v Speaker 4>and people can try to take it out of context

2432
02:16:41.639 --> 02:16:47.239
<v Speaker 4>to fit their own narrative, for sure. So I believe so.

2433
02:16:47.760 --> 02:16:52.040
<v Speaker 4>And unfortunately, sometimes the worst enemies of Jews are Jews themselves,

2434
02:16:52.120 --> 02:16:57.680
<v Speaker 4>because they know what it's. So for example, there's a

2435
02:16:57.799 --> 02:17:00.399
<v Speaker 4>Jewish law that says, so let's just say you and

2436
02:17:00.479 --> 02:17:06.280
<v Speaker 4>I are having wine together, and if a fly jumps

2437
02:17:06.280 --> 02:17:08.879
<v Speaker 4>into my wine, I am allowed to basically skill a

2438
02:17:08.920 --> 02:17:11.559
<v Speaker 4>little a little bit of my wine, and that's that

2439
02:17:12.040 --> 02:17:14.959
<v Speaker 4>I can. I can continue to drink my wine. However,

2440
02:17:15.239 --> 02:17:17.760
<v Speaker 4>you you, being non Jewish, if you touch my goblet,

2441
02:17:17.799 --> 02:17:22.159
<v Speaker 4>I can no longer drink it. So somebody who knows

2442
02:17:22.159 --> 02:17:25.200
<v Speaker 4>that law and wants to make Jews look bad. Say hey,

2443
02:17:25.280 --> 02:17:27.360
<v Speaker 4>by the way, look you know the Jewish flying you know,

2444
02:17:27.760 --> 02:17:30.799
<v Speaker 4>of a fly flies in it, It just dumps it out.

2445
02:17:30.840 --> 02:17:33.879
<v Speaker 4>But if you, who are a great person and a

2446
02:17:33.959 --> 02:17:36.799
<v Speaker 4>sage and the king or whatever, grab the goblet, you know,

2447
02:17:36.840 --> 02:17:39.639
<v Speaker 4>you can no longer drink it like it just they

2448
02:17:39.680 --> 02:17:42.559
<v Speaker 4>do it to make Jews look bad.

2449
02:17:43.239 --> 02:17:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, no again, I'm sure there's context to that,

2450
02:17:49.719 --> 02:17:52.639
<v Speaker 2>and it's not a boy that touched your cup.

2451
02:17:53.079 --> 02:17:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know just the intent. It might be the intent.

2452
02:17:56.399 --> 02:17:57.719
<v Speaker 1>It very well might be the intent.

2453
02:17:58.680 --> 02:17:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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02:17:59.120 --> 02:18:01.840
<v Speaker 4>It Basically, the the whole thing even about eating with

2455
02:18:01.920 --> 02:18:05.200
<v Speaker 4>someone who's who's not Jewish, is so the Jews don't

2456
02:18:05.200 --> 02:18:08.159
<v Speaker 4>come to idle worship. That's really where I come from,

2457
02:18:08.200 --> 02:18:10.799
<v Speaker 4>because whenever people share drinks together, they get a little

2458
02:18:10.799 --> 02:18:13.639
<v Speaker 4>more loose, and they get more get very very comfortable

2459
02:18:13.639 --> 02:18:16.280
<v Speaker 4>conversons could happen. That's essentially where it came from.

2460
02:18:16.959 --> 02:18:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, and also it's a it's a pretty widely understood

2461
02:18:19.760 --> 02:18:23.200
<v Speaker 1>pagan practice of passing the cup around and sharing a drink.

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02:18:23.000 --> 02:18:23.799
<v Speaker 2>In that way.

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02:18:23.840 --> 02:18:29.479
<v Speaker 1>Wow, right, Merlin, I see your hand raised. Chime in, brother, So.

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02:18:31.639 --> 02:18:33.840
<v Speaker 10>Is it just non Jewish people who can't drink from

2465
02:18:33.959 --> 02:18:36.239
<v Speaker 10>or can't touch the cup, or is it anybody who

2466
02:18:36.280 --> 02:18:37.079
<v Speaker 10>can't touch the cup?

2467
02:18:39.000 --> 02:18:42.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think even if there there are let's

2468
02:18:42.719 --> 02:18:45.120
<v Speaker 4>just say, if there is a Jew who's not religious

2469
02:18:45.200 --> 02:18:48.280
<v Speaker 4>and and does it, there could be laws against that too,

2470
02:18:48.360 --> 02:18:52.959
<v Speaker 4>But generally that's only when it comes to uh, non

2471
02:18:53.000 --> 02:18:56.879
<v Speaker 4>pasteurize wine. So for example, on most bottles of wine

2472
02:18:57.079 --> 02:19:00.280
<v Speaker 4>or grape juice, it will say pasturizers non pasteurized. If

2473
02:19:00.280 --> 02:19:05.959
<v Speaker 4>it's pasteurized, it doesn't have the same status as a

2474
02:19:06.319 --> 02:19:07.799
<v Speaker 4>non pasteurized does.

2475
02:19:08.319 --> 02:19:11.959
<v Speaker 1>Now that's also interesting for cleanliness issues, for hygiene issues

2476
02:19:12.000 --> 02:19:14.719
<v Speaker 1>which they didn't necessarily know about when the Talmut and

2477
02:19:14.760 --> 02:19:17.959
<v Speaker 1>the tour were written. But even within the Jewish laws

2478
02:19:18.040 --> 02:19:21.239
<v Speaker 1>like washing your hands with flowing water rather than from

2479
02:19:21.239 --> 02:19:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a bowl. So if you're with somebody who is of

2480
02:19:25.399 --> 02:19:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the good, in good standings with the Jewish faith, so

2481
02:19:28.920 --> 02:19:32.559
<v Speaker 1>to speak, they would have washed their hands appropriately, as

2482
02:19:32.559 --> 02:19:35.079
<v Speaker 1>opposed to somebody who is not a good Jew or

2483
02:19:35.159 --> 02:19:37.079
<v Speaker 1>is not a Jewish person, who may not have washed

2484
02:19:37.079 --> 02:19:37.879
<v Speaker 1>their hands properly.

2485
02:19:38.360 --> 02:19:40.680
<v Speaker 2>And maybe that's the intent behind the sharing of the cup.

2486
02:19:42.680 --> 02:19:44.959
<v Speaker 4>I can go with that line of logic. I know

2487
02:19:45.000 --> 02:19:47.319
<v Speaker 4>that's so, that line of logic makes sense. I can't

2488
02:19:47.319 --> 02:19:49.959
<v Speaker 4>answer that question because I don't know, but the logic

2489
02:19:50.040 --> 02:19:50.360
<v Speaker 4>is sound.

2490
02:19:50.719 --> 02:19:52.719
<v Speaker 2>It checks out, Merlin, go ahead, brother.

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02:19:54.079 --> 02:19:56.600
<v Speaker 10>Makes sense to me because a fly landing in your

2492
02:19:56.600 --> 02:19:59.079
<v Speaker 10>cup would be one of guy's creations.

2493
02:19:59.520 --> 02:20:01.440
<v Speaker 4>Sure, so it's human.

2494
02:20:01.680 --> 02:20:06.280
<v Speaker 10>But if I'm not of the same faith, then yeah,

2495
02:20:06.440 --> 02:20:08.680
<v Speaker 10>I'm just dirty.

2496
02:20:08.360 --> 02:20:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's more, it's more plausible to say that

2497
02:20:11.079 --> 02:20:13.479
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's now the same faith wouldn't have the same

2498
02:20:13.600 --> 02:20:14.879
<v Speaker 1>hygiene standards.

2499
02:20:15.799 --> 02:20:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I wants you to more about ritual purity than anything

2500
02:20:18.040 --> 02:20:20.760
<v Speaker 4>to tir you the truth, because, especially in the times

2501
02:20:20.760 --> 02:20:24.879
<v Speaker 4>of old, ritual purity played a lot more than what

2502
02:20:25.000 --> 02:20:28.120
<v Speaker 4>it does now. Because right now, everybody, all the Jews

2503
02:20:28.120 --> 02:20:31.840
<v Speaker 4>are considered ritually impure. We have we so nobody really

2504
02:20:31.920 --> 02:20:34.360
<v Speaker 4>I think maybe a kid who has not yet reached

2505
02:20:34.399 --> 02:20:39.680
<v Speaker 4>bar Menza. But besides that, like everybody is because we

2506
02:20:39.799 --> 02:20:43.079
<v Speaker 4>don't have the ashes of the red cattle, and the

2507
02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:46.520
<v Speaker 4>and the and the priests to be able to do

2508
02:20:46.680 --> 02:20:54.559
<v Speaker 4>the all all the things to make somebody ritually pure. Yeah,

2509
02:20:54.600 --> 02:20:57.399
<v Speaker 4>so right right now, it's not appathable. We also don't

2510
02:20:57.399 --> 02:21:00.600
<v Speaker 4>have a temple, right right.

2511
02:21:00.799 --> 02:21:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, speaking of man, we just did an episode

2512
02:21:04.879 --> 02:21:10.040
<v Speaker 1>about that old Abdullah al Sadik, guy who's claiming to

2513
02:21:10.079 --> 02:21:14.079
<v Speaker 1>be the Messiah and the successor to Mohammed and the

2514
02:21:14.120 --> 02:21:18.360
<v Speaker 1>successor to Jesus and all of this. Listening to him speak,

2515
02:21:18.440 --> 02:21:20.079
<v Speaker 1>you could tell that he is a fraud and a

2516
02:21:20.200 --> 02:21:25.680
<v Speaker 1>charlatan and all of these things. Bro the backstory, his

2517
02:21:25.799 --> 02:21:27.000
<v Speaker 1>actual name is.

2518
02:21:28.399 --> 02:21:30.879
<v Speaker 4>It's right, because if.

2519
02:21:30.760 --> 02:21:31.280
<v Speaker 12>You say.

2520
02:21:32.799 --> 02:21:34.239
<v Speaker 4>Means right is an eprou.

2521
02:21:34.719 --> 02:21:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Abdullah uh ship hold on, I just was looking this

2522
02:21:40.280 --> 02:21:40.760
<v Speaker 2>guy up.

2523
02:21:40.799 --> 02:21:44.479
<v Speaker 1>He's basically him and his college buddy have started a

2524
02:21:44.520 --> 02:21:46.159
<v Speaker 1>new age death cult.

2525
02:21:46.360 --> 02:21:49.639
<v Speaker 2>And that's what this is, uh hold on.

2526
02:21:49.639 --> 02:21:52.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what what what what odula means, but

2527
02:21:52.440 --> 02:21:56.319
<v Speaker 4>like al sad means basically someone who's righteous, and Hashim

2528
02:21:56.440 --> 02:21:58.959
<v Speaker 4>is the name of God. So it's also very interesting

2529
02:21:59.079 --> 02:22:02.440
<v Speaker 4>that that chosen not as his monk.

2530
02:22:02.879 --> 02:22:07.600
<v Speaker 1>So Abdullah hashem abba al Sadik, that is the name

2531
02:22:07.639 --> 02:22:08.559
<v Speaker 1>that he's going.

2532
02:22:08.319 --> 02:22:15.959
<v Speaker 4>By, So something from God and it being righteous, yes, mad.

2533
02:22:16.559 --> 02:22:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well he's calling himself the new mad right, which

2534
02:22:19.319 --> 02:22:26.079
<v Speaker 1>is a Muslim term for basically the successor of Mohammad

2535
02:22:26.200 --> 02:22:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and the savior of all the things and the stuff.

2536
02:22:28.559 --> 02:22:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact, look, I'm gonna just I'm gonna just

2537
02:22:29.920 --> 02:22:30.600
<v Speaker 2>share the screen.

2538
02:22:30.879 --> 02:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about this together everybody the Guru website.

2539
02:22:35.239 --> 02:22:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Meet the doomsday cult taking over the world.

2540
02:22:37.159 --> 02:22:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this guy, this motherfucker who wears the black beanie

2541
02:22:42.680 --> 02:22:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and is saying that this is his version of a

2542
02:22:44.399 --> 02:22:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Yamaka and all of this. So these are two young

2543
02:22:47.920 --> 02:22:51.399
<v Speaker 1>men from Morrisville, Indiana who used to infiltrate colts and

2544
02:22:51.440 --> 02:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>make documentaries exposing them. Now they run one of the

2545
02:22:55.920 --> 02:22:58.680
<v Speaker 1>largest doomsday cults in the world, and they are the

2546
02:22:59.280 --> 02:23:01.120
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote founders of the.

2547
02:23:03.040 --> 02:23:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Hold On.

2548
02:23:03.600 --> 02:23:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Abdullah has shim is what he goes by and

2549
02:23:06.799 --> 02:23:10.719
<v Speaker 1>all of these things. The religion is the hold On.

2550
02:23:11.120 --> 02:23:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Let me find it. It's the New Age religion of

2551
02:23:15.399 --> 02:23:18.959
<v Speaker 1>Peace and Life or something like that. It's yeah, it's

2552
02:23:19.559 --> 02:23:23.239
<v Speaker 1>this guy. He's one of the most human beings that's

2553
02:23:23.280 --> 02:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>ever been long story short.

2554
02:23:25.520 --> 02:23:30.399
<v Speaker 2>There's a long history of sexual abuse. Oh oh, let

2555
02:23:30.399 --> 02:23:31.239
<v Speaker 2>me not forget that.

2556
02:23:31.319 --> 02:23:36.680
<v Speaker 1>He also believes in a world where human sized rabbits

2557
02:23:37.159 --> 02:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>live and keep human beings as pets. The Amadi religion

2558
02:23:42.639 --> 02:23:47.639
<v Speaker 1>of peace and Light. That would be the the group.

2559
02:23:47.799 --> 02:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's hilarious. These people, his devout followers. There's like

2560
02:23:52.040 --> 02:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>two hundred of them that live in this compound. This

2561
02:23:54.399 --> 02:23:56.840
<v Speaker 1>big ass house in Manchester that had a picture of

2562
02:23:56.840 --> 02:23:58.799
<v Speaker 1>it a minute ago. Hold on, I think it's actually

2563
02:23:58.840 --> 02:24:02.000
<v Speaker 1>down here somewhere. But anyway, this is him before he

2564
02:24:02.040 --> 02:24:06.319
<v Speaker 1>became a cult leader. That's him with his college homeboy

2565
02:24:06.360 --> 02:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>who is still his homeboy. And these two run this

2566
02:24:09.680 --> 02:24:12.360
<v Speaker 1>death cult and and it's a.

2567
02:24:12.360 --> 02:24:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Whole whole thing here.

2568
02:24:15.000 --> 02:24:18.479
<v Speaker 1>So of these two hundred followers, this chick says that

2569
02:24:18.639 --> 02:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>he cured her of a of cancer. This guy over

2570
02:24:21.879 --> 02:24:24.559
<v Speaker 1>here says that he brought his wife back from the dead.

2571
02:24:25.159 --> 02:24:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Uh. This chick here says that she he brought her

2572
02:24:27.959 --> 02:24:30.120
<v Speaker 2>mom back from the dead. This chick is saying that

2573
02:24:30.280 --> 02:24:34.319
<v Speaker 2>cured her infertility. Uh. This chick is saying that he

2574
02:24:34.440 --> 02:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>turned leaves into living pets, living animals. Yeah, yeah, it's

2575
02:24:42.520 --> 02:24:48.159
<v Speaker 2>it's it's fucking insane. I don't even know. I'm sorry.

2576
02:24:48.959 --> 02:24:52.000
<v Speaker 4>It didn't David Blaine do that turn leaves into animals.

2577
02:24:53.600 --> 02:24:54.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm just making fun.

2578
02:24:54.920 --> 02:24:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I don't know.

2579
02:24:56.959 --> 02:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>David Blaine probably did, to be honest with you, but uh, yeah,

2580
02:25:01.000 --> 02:25:03.719
<v Speaker 1>this guy is leading a cult and he is making

2581
02:25:03.719 --> 02:25:07.319
<v Speaker 1>his rounds all over the youtubes and the X and

2582
02:25:07.399 --> 02:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the tiktoks.

2583
02:25:09.879 --> 02:25:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Talking about how he is the true Pope.

2584
02:25:12.360 --> 02:25:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh, by the way, he is the reason why Pope

2585
02:25:14.760 --> 02:25:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Francis died, clearly. And it's like, dude, I can find

2586
02:25:18.280 --> 02:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you five people on the internet right now that say

2587
02:25:21.520 --> 02:25:24.479
<v Speaker 1>that they are the reason because they put that intention

2588
02:25:24.600 --> 02:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>out there and it manifested into It's like, bro, shut

2589
02:25:28.520 --> 02:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>shut up. He's been fighting pneumonia for like eight months

2590
02:25:31.639 --> 02:25:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and he's older than shit, Like, what are you what

2591
02:25:33.440 --> 02:25:34.600
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about.

2592
02:25:34.360 --> 02:25:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Here, Merlin?

2593
02:25:35.920 --> 02:25:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, brother one, jd Vance killed the Pope. Jd Vance

2594
02:25:42.280 --> 02:25:44.479
<v Speaker 2>has a higher probability of being the reason why the

2595
02:25:44.479 --> 02:25:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Pope is dead right now than this guy, like for real.

2596
02:25:48.479 --> 02:25:52.719
<v Speaker 10>But now it drives me everybody tries to say this

2597
02:25:52.760 --> 02:25:55.959
<v Speaker 10>guy's the Antichrist. I'm like, one, he's not merely charismatic

2598
02:25:56.079 --> 02:25:57.559
<v Speaker 10>enough to be the Antichrist.

2599
02:25:57.920 --> 02:26:00.399
<v Speaker 2>He's not. He's like autistic.

2600
02:26:00.719 --> 02:26:04.120
<v Speaker 10>Exactly, and that whole Like I watched all the videos

2601
02:26:04.159 --> 02:26:05.760
<v Speaker 10>on him because my son brought it up, and I

2602
02:26:05.840 --> 02:26:09.520
<v Speaker 10>was like, Nah, this dude, he Trump has a higher

2603
02:26:09.600 --> 02:26:11.319
<v Speaker 10>chance of being the Antichrist than this guy.

2604
02:26:11.559 --> 02:26:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and I don't even believe Trump's the Antichrist.

2605
02:26:14.079 --> 02:26:16.239
<v Speaker 1>But if we are gonna put them next to each

2606
02:26:16.239 --> 02:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>other to see which ones are more likely candidate.

2607
02:26:19.440 --> 02:26:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Trump is way way up there as compared to Abdullah.

2608
02:26:24.079 --> 02:26:27.239
<v Speaker 10>Right, And I feel like, just to be completely honest

2609
02:26:27.239 --> 02:26:29.000
<v Speaker 10>about myself, I feel like I might be fooled by

2610
02:26:29.040 --> 02:26:31.600
<v Speaker 10>the Antichrist and I would not be fooled by this

2611
02:26:31.639 --> 02:26:32.680
<v Speaker 10>guy one bit at all.

2612
02:26:32.760 --> 02:26:34.799
<v Speaker 4>Like, damn, Like I follow that guy, I'm.

2613
02:26:34.680 --> 02:26:36.559
<v Speaker 10>Probably gonna second guess myself. I'm be like, yeah, it's

2614
02:26:36.559 --> 02:26:37.440
<v Speaker 10>probably not a good idea.

2615
02:26:37.879 --> 02:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope that you have the discernment to be

2616
02:26:39.959 --> 02:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>able to tell when that time comes. But to your point, yeah,

2617
02:26:43.440 --> 02:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to be somebody who's charismatic that like everyone

2618
02:26:47.520 --> 02:26:52.079
<v Speaker 1>loves this guy is not that or even close to that.

2619
02:26:52.840 --> 02:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>That article we did a whole episode on it. I

2620
02:26:54.879 --> 02:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>think it's actually dropping here in a few minutes. He

2621
02:26:59.479 --> 02:27:02.159
<v Speaker 1>has been kicked out of like five countries. He and

2622
02:27:02.239 --> 02:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>his religion have been kicked out of like five countries

2623
02:27:05.200 --> 02:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>because the police keep getting reports of allegations of sexual misconduct, rape,

2624
02:27:11.000 --> 02:27:15.879
<v Speaker 1>drug use. Uh, it's it's it's a cult. It's a cult,

2625
02:27:16.079 --> 02:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Like there's no two ways about it. And he's not

2626
02:27:17.799 --> 02:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>even like the most charismatic of cult leaders. He's just

2627
02:27:21.120 --> 02:27:24.479
<v Speaker 1>like the guy that stepped up because the Amadi religion

2628
02:27:24.520 --> 02:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>of Peace and Light, they have been operating since like

2629
02:27:28.040 --> 02:27:28.799
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two.

2630
02:27:29.600 --> 02:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>The guy who.

2631
02:27:30.120 --> 02:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Founded them, who was the cult leader, basically dipped out

2632
02:27:34.120 --> 02:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>in like twenty fifteen, and no one knows where he is.

2633
02:27:37.319 --> 02:27:39.319
<v Speaker 1>And if you've ever seen the uh your boy of

2634
02:27:39.399 --> 02:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Doula given his speeches at his podium, he's got that

2635
02:27:41.600 --> 02:27:44.120
<v Speaker 1>white marble bust of a guy in front of him.

2636
02:27:44.520 --> 02:27:47.239
<v Speaker 1>The bust is of that guy like his proto or

2637
02:27:47.280 --> 02:27:50.479
<v Speaker 1>his mentor, I guess you could say. And then this

2638
02:27:50.719 --> 02:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>cult had like no leader for like two years, and

2639
02:27:53.719 --> 02:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>then he stepped up and was like it's me.

2640
02:27:56.079 --> 02:27:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I am he, I am the guy, and let's we're

2641
02:27:59.120 --> 02:28:01.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna We're gonna take over the world with this stuff.

2642
02:28:01.280 --> 02:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's dude evoiden for the Internet, no one would

2643
02:28:04.799 --> 02:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>know who this guy is.

2644
02:28:06.680 --> 02:28:07.959
<v Speaker 2>That's just the fact of it.

2645
02:28:08.319 --> 02:28:12.879
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, and it's like he doesn't know anything

2646
02:28:12.920 --> 02:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>about any of the religions. He claims he knows just

2647
02:28:16.000 --> 02:28:19.680
<v Speaker 1>enough from the Bible, just enough from the Koran and

2648
02:28:20.000 --> 02:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>just enough from the Tour and the Talmud to mention

2649
02:28:23.280 --> 02:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>things with like no context and clearly no idea what

2650
02:28:27.079 --> 02:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about.

2651
02:28:28.239 --> 02:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like those spiritual people. And I'm not

2652
02:28:30.959 --> 02:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>just saying the Wou Wou.

2653
02:28:31.920 --> 02:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Crowd, but like you know the type I'm talking about

2654
02:28:33.959 --> 02:28:42.079
<v Speaker 1>that No, just enough of Buddhism, Hinduism, and Confucism to

2655
02:28:42.520 --> 02:28:45.879
<v Speaker 1>sound intelligent to someone who has no clue about any

2656
02:28:45.920 --> 02:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of those religions. But if you actually have read any

2657
02:28:48.959 --> 02:28:51.959
<v Speaker 1>of the literature on any of those things, then it

2658
02:28:52.000 --> 02:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>would take you maybe ten seconds to piece them up,

2659
02:28:55.120 --> 02:28:57.159
<v Speaker 1>like realistically, that's this guy.

2660
02:28:57.799 --> 02:29:00.719
<v Speaker 2>It's Abaro, Yeah.

2661
02:29:00.639 --> 02:29:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, cleo, And it's an amazing example of that. Like

2662
02:29:04.719 --> 02:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it's or you know, I'm gonna probably upset some people

2663
02:29:08.680 --> 02:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>with this, Madam Blovotsky if you actually listen to what

2664
02:29:13.319 --> 02:29:16.719
<v Speaker 1>she said and wrote about because she was given this

2665
02:29:16.840 --> 02:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>information from a Hindu, a guru from the east, and

2666
02:29:21.639 --> 02:29:23.799
<v Speaker 1>all this and all this, and then you compare that

2667
02:29:23.879 --> 02:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>to what gurus actually say and teach, and then you

2668
02:29:27.040 --> 02:29:29.399
<v Speaker 1>look at the story as how she got the information

2669
02:29:29.520 --> 02:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and all these things. And I know she's seen as

2670
02:29:31.959 --> 02:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>like far Eastern esoteric philosophy.

2671
02:29:35.280 --> 02:29:38.559
<v Speaker 2>She's like the mother of it. If you look at

2672
02:29:38.840 --> 02:29:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Eastern philosophy and you compare that to Blovotsky, it takes

2673
02:29:43.559 --> 02:29:46.879
<v Speaker 2>you under thirty seconds to tell you that this woman

2674
02:29:47.079 --> 02:29:52.079
<v Speaker 2>is full of shit, like start to finish with and

2675
02:29:52.120 --> 02:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>not even any trying to be impolite here, like no,

2676
02:29:55.079 --> 02:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>she's it's like saying Alistair Crowley understood the Bible, like no,

2677
02:30:00.959 --> 02:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>not even a little bit actually, but all right, it's

2678
02:30:04.120 --> 02:30:07.559
<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, you know these cult leader types, they're a

2679
02:30:07.600 --> 02:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>whole thing.

2680
02:30:08.200 --> 02:30:12.399
<v Speaker 10>Go ahead, brother, Yeah, I feel like some something weird

2681
02:30:12.440 --> 02:30:14.959
<v Speaker 10>is about to pop off, like you got like people

2682
02:30:15.079 --> 02:30:19.120
<v Speaker 10>just itching for something, like with the war in Ukraine,

2683
02:30:19.120 --> 02:30:23.520
<v Speaker 10>people popping off in India and Pakistan. Like I think

2684
02:30:23.600 --> 02:30:26.040
<v Speaker 10>before our time, we're gonna see a massive blow up

2685
02:30:27.000 --> 02:30:27.719
<v Speaker 10>of something.

2686
02:30:28.399 --> 02:30:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's been saying that we're gearing up for World War

2687
02:30:30.799 --> 02:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>three since World War Two ended. And I'm not even

2688
02:30:34.280 --> 02:30:35.680
<v Speaker 2>trying to dismiss what you're saying.

2689
02:30:35.879 --> 02:30:39.239
<v Speaker 1>If and I know, it's more likely this year than

2690
02:30:39.239 --> 02:30:41.159
<v Speaker 1>it was last year, and it's more likely last year

2691
02:30:41.200 --> 02:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>than it was the year before that and ten years

2692
02:30:43.159 --> 02:30:44.879
<v Speaker 1>before that, And like I'm with you one hundred percent.

2693
02:30:45.360 --> 02:30:48.879
<v Speaker 1>We have multiple warfronts opening up in Africa right now,

2694
02:30:49.239 --> 02:30:52.959
<v Speaker 1>multiple warfronts opening up in Europe. Yeah, in Ukraine, don't

2695
02:30:52.959 --> 02:30:55.239
<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, but like Poland is getting ready for

2696
02:30:55.239 --> 02:31:00.319
<v Speaker 1>this too. Uh was a Estonia is getting ready for

2697
02:31:00.319 --> 02:31:04.079
<v Speaker 1>a Russian invasion in Asia. You got China making their

2698
02:31:04.159 --> 02:31:07.799
<v Speaker 1>moves in India and Pakistan and all these. South America

2699
02:31:07.879 --> 02:31:11.479
<v Speaker 1>has multiple situations that are going south very quickly right now.

2700
02:31:11.520 --> 02:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I think the only continent that is not involved in

2701
02:31:15.159 --> 02:31:20.559
<v Speaker 1>some sort of conflict globally right now would be Antarctica

2702
02:31:20.559 --> 02:31:22.079
<v Speaker 1>in Australia.

2703
02:31:22.280 --> 02:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by and large, and I.

2704
02:31:23.879 --> 02:31:26.959
<v Speaker 1>Mean, it only takes one thing to push things over

2705
02:31:27.000 --> 02:31:29.719
<v Speaker 1>the edge to where all these alliances that we have,

2706
02:31:29.799 --> 02:31:32.079
<v Speaker 1>all these trade deals that we have, not just America,

2707
02:31:32.120 --> 02:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>we as in like the Royal weed, the human race, right,

2708
02:31:35.079 --> 02:31:37.559
<v Speaker 1>it takes one extra thing to push things over the line.

2709
02:31:37.600 --> 02:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And everybody picks up the phone to make those calls

2710
02:31:39.680 --> 02:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to make those alliances more concrete, and then boom, we're

2711
02:31:42.040 --> 02:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>back into a World War III.

2712
02:31:44.479 --> 02:31:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I just I'm not saying that it's not going to happen.

2713
02:31:48.040 --> 02:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I see it as a possibility and in some ways

2714
02:31:51.280 --> 02:31:52.079
<v Speaker 1>of probability.

2715
02:31:53.239 --> 02:31:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know what to make of it, man.

2716
02:31:56.920 --> 02:32:00.079
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like if it wasn't for, if it

2717
02:32:00.120 --> 02:32:02.159
<v Speaker 1>wasn't for, and I mean I can't say this across

2718
02:32:02.200 --> 02:32:05.079
<v Speaker 1>the board, but also if you look at the conflicts

2719
02:32:05.079 --> 02:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>in Africa right now, if it wasn't for Chinese involvement

2720
02:32:08.920 --> 02:32:13.479
<v Speaker 1>in Africa currently, I don't know if there would be

2721
02:32:13.559 --> 02:32:19.719
<v Speaker 1>wars like there are right now, or Russian fighters with

2722
02:32:19.920 --> 02:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the conscription fighters of the military contractors. Excuse me, I

2723
02:32:25.319 --> 02:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure if there would be.

2724
02:32:26.799 --> 02:32:28.719
<v Speaker 2>So much fighting around the Horn of Africa and in

2725
02:32:28.840 --> 02:32:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Sudan right now if it wasn't for Russian contractors.

2726
02:32:31.399 --> 02:32:35.639
<v Speaker 1>They're stirring the pot now. With that being said, America

2727
02:32:35.680 --> 02:32:36.319
<v Speaker 1>has done.

2728
02:32:36.120 --> 02:32:38.959
<v Speaker 2>Our own stirring of pots around the world and we

2729
02:32:39.000 --> 02:32:41.159
<v Speaker 2>still currently are. So I'm not saying like we're the

2730
02:32:41.159 --> 02:32:43.440
<v Speaker 2>only good guys and everybody else's bad guys, nothing like that.

2731
02:32:44.120 --> 02:32:46.840
<v Speaker 2>But I just find it interesting that of all the

2732
02:32:46.879 --> 02:32:50.159
<v Speaker 2>conflicts going on around the world, if China, Russia, and

2733
02:32:50.280 --> 02:32:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Iran would just mine their own business, most of the

2734
02:32:55.600 --> 02:32:57.239
<v Speaker 2>conflicts around the world would cease.

2735
02:32:58.120 --> 02:33:01.440
<v Speaker 10>I find that interesting, Oh, it very much so, is

2736
02:33:01.879 --> 02:33:05.520
<v Speaker 10>like I thought that many at times. Yeah, what's like,

2737
02:33:05.719 --> 02:33:07.760
<v Speaker 10>what's the point of fighting this day and age?

2738
02:33:08.360 --> 02:33:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Really whenever, like we.

2739
02:33:10.520 --> 02:33:13.719
<v Speaker 10>All know what's legitimately going to cost. Like I got

2740
02:33:13.719 --> 02:33:16.079
<v Speaker 10>two sons who are about to like in four years

2741
02:33:16.120 --> 02:33:18.840
<v Speaker 10>be eighteen. Now, if a conflict kicks off in two years,

2742
02:33:19.239 --> 02:33:21.760
<v Speaker 10>I guarantee you at least one of my kids is enlisting.

2743
02:33:22.760 --> 02:33:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I hope you or let him go to

2744
02:33:25.600 --> 02:33:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the Space Force. Dude. Yeah, yeah, I'm telling my kids

2745
02:33:29.760 --> 02:33:30.120
<v Speaker 2>straight up.

2746
02:33:30.120 --> 02:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're going to join, go Air Force or Space Force, Like,

2747
02:33:32.879 --> 02:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>go somewhere where you'll get some technology training to where

2748
02:33:36.159 --> 02:33:37.479
<v Speaker 1>you'll get a job when you get out.

2749
02:33:37.559 --> 02:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm so here for it.

2750
02:33:40.159 --> 02:33:42.639
<v Speaker 10>Well, every like all of us have been to armies.

2751
02:33:42.360 --> 02:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So woe. No, you were Air Force, weren't you. I was, Yeah,

2752
02:33:51.959 --> 02:33:52.799
<v Speaker 2>take a bag here.

2753
02:33:54.280 --> 02:33:57.440
<v Speaker 4>I definitely I knew what before. I knew how I

2754
02:33:57.479 --> 02:34:02.079
<v Speaker 4>wanted to survive in the military me boys.

2755
02:34:02.399 --> 02:34:05.760
<v Speaker 2>And granted you're gonna get the jokes though the Chair Force.

2756
02:34:05.840 --> 02:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>But but okay fine, And you also like a human

2757
02:34:10.840 --> 02:34:13.159
<v Speaker 2>being the entire time you were in the military, which

2758
02:34:13.200 --> 02:34:13.840
<v Speaker 2>is incredible.

2759
02:34:14.719 --> 02:34:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Look when I was when I was employed, there were

2760
02:34:16.719 --> 02:34:19.319
<v Speaker 4>people that were intense. I was in like a dorm

2761
02:34:19.639 --> 02:34:20.639
<v Speaker 4>that was air conditioned.

2762
02:34:21.000 --> 02:34:22.120
<v Speaker 2>You son of a bitch.

2763
02:34:25.920 --> 02:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, I get it. Though you made your choices,

2764
02:34:28.920 --> 02:34:31.559
<v Speaker 1>we made ours. Just so happens you're smarter than us.

2765
02:34:31.600 --> 02:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>That's all that is, Merlin.

2766
02:34:36.280 --> 02:34:36.840
<v Speaker 2>You were Army.

2767
02:34:36.920 --> 02:34:39.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I tried.

2768
02:34:39.600 --> 02:34:43.440
<v Speaker 10>But my dad, my grandpa, great grandpa, my actual great

2769
02:34:43.559 --> 02:34:47.760
<v Speaker 10>cut like literally all the last names of my dad's

2770
02:34:47.760 --> 02:34:53.600
<v Speaker 10>side was Army. Great cousin was Alvin York in World.

2771
02:34:53.440 --> 02:34:55.760
<v Speaker 2>War One, the Alvin York.

2772
02:34:57.120 --> 02:34:58.440
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, the Alvin York.

2773
02:34:59.520 --> 02:35:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah.

2774
02:35:01.799 --> 02:35:03.559
<v Speaker 10>I got to see his uniform and everything.

2775
02:35:04.360 --> 02:35:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that is incredible. It is.

2776
02:35:08.440 --> 02:35:14.760
<v Speaker 10>It's really cool talk about legends, like all of them, legends.

2777
02:35:14.360 --> 02:35:23.200
<v Speaker 13>Like God of everybody, Like my genera, our generation starting

2778
02:35:23.239 --> 02:35:28.040
<v Speaker 13>award that our sons will have to finish.

2779
02:35:28.200 --> 02:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I would hope, and I know that this is not

2780
02:35:30.280 --> 02:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>going to happen, but I would hope that if a

2781
02:35:33.079 --> 02:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>war pops off, it will be like desert storm. And

2782
02:35:37.719 --> 02:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>by the time the politicians even have an opportunity to

2783
02:35:41.040 --> 02:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>weigh in on the situation, it's already wrapped up.

2784
02:35:43.920 --> 02:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Like we took over Iraq and like, what was it

2785
02:35:45.799 --> 02:35:47.360
<v Speaker 2>two weeks?

2786
02:35:48.040 --> 02:35:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, and that was because the politicians didn't

2787
02:35:51.440 --> 02:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to say, wait a minute, we need

2788
02:35:53.719 --> 02:35:56.079
<v Speaker 1>these types of rules of engagement, you need to do

2789
02:35:56.120 --> 02:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>this and this, we can't use these types of munitions.

2790
02:35:58.319 --> 02:36:00.760
<v Speaker 1>And but but by the time the policyiticians even got

2791
02:36:00.799 --> 02:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>together to have their first meeting about it. We were

2792
02:36:02.520 --> 02:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>handing over the keys of the country, which is a

2793
02:36:05.200 --> 02:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>correct way. That's how total war should be done.

2794
02:36:08.879 --> 02:36:10.879
<v Speaker 10>This is drivel like what was like five platoons of

2795
02:36:10.920 --> 02:36:11.719
<v Speaker 10>tanks across it.

2796
02:36:12.239 --> 02:36:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Basically it was super fast, super violent, super quick in

2797
02:36:16.319 --> 02:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and out. That's how a war should be fought in one.

2798
02:36:19.040 --> 02:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Now, I understand that that means that the military industrial

2799
02:36:21.840 --> 02:36:25.479
<v Speaker 1>complex doesn't make the money. If they do it that way, fine,

2800
02:36:26.479 --> 02:36:29.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm good with that. They make their money on so

2801
02:36:29.639 --> 02:36:30.280
<v Speaker 1>many things.

2802
02:36:30.319 --> 02:36:33.319
<v Speaker 2>We don't need a twenty two year long engagement.

2803
02:36:33.440 --> 02:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Again, this war in Ukraine, it's been this special military

2804
02:36:37.239 --> 02:36:39.959
<v Speaker 1>operation that was supposed to be two weeks just.

2805
02:36:39.959 --> 02:36:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Made three years.

2806
02:36:42.079 --> 02:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>That's not benefiting anybody but the military industrial complex. And

2807
02:36:46.920 --> 02:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, Poland is buying every single thing

2808
02:36:50.120 --> 02:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that the American military groups can produce. As soon as

2809
02:36:54.879 --> 02:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>we make a new weapon, a new missile, a new plane,

2810
02:36:57.799 --> 02:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>they already have a down toil payment for thirty so

2811
02:37:00.760 --> 02:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>like they're making their money, you know what I mean,

2812
02:37:03.680 --> 02:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>they're making their dollar bills. I just I don't want

2813
02:37:06.680 --> 02:37:08.959
<v Speaker 1>America to get involved in something like that, especially if

2814
02:37:08.959 --> 02:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>it's something that's not our problem.

2815
02:37:10.959 --> 02:37:13.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know. I do know that if

2816
02:37:13.280 --> 02:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>India we just signed a military alliance deal with India

2817
02:37:16.520 --> 02:37:17.360
<v Speaker 2>a few months back.

2818
02:37:18.200 --> 02:37:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Now, I don't know the stipulations to that deal with

2819
02:37:21.479 --> 02:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Pakistan and India getting involved in this situation right now,

2820
02:37:25.760 --> 02:37:28.479
<v Speaker 1>India is more than capable of handling this, right or

2821
02:37:28.479 --> 02:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>at least that's what I've been given to believe. Maybe

2822
02:37:30.760 --> 02:37:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Pakistan is like sneakily, a really sizable and you know,

2823
02:37:36.639 --> 02:37:41.399
<v Speaker 1>capable military. It could be, could be if India got

2824
02:37:41.440 --> 02:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>to a point to where they needed to call in favors,

2825
02:37:44.399 --> 02:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>we just signed a deal to where we.

2826
02:37:45.760 --> 02:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Would have to go to bat for them. Now that

2827
02:37:50.079 --> 02:37:57.520
<v Speaker 2>being said, I'm not particularly mad at that Pakistan. You know,

2828
02:37:58.520 --> 02:38:00.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the nation are not really fond of us,

2829
02:38:01.079 --> 02:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>So no love lost. I don't want civilian casualties, of course,

2830
02:38:04.760 --> 02:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>but like if we could just get in, do what

2831
02:38:08.079 --> 02:38:09.520
<v Speaker 2>needs to be done, and get out, I feel like

2832
02:38:09.559 --> 02:38:11.520
<v Speaker 2>the whole situation could be done in under a moth.

2833
02:38:13.360 --> 02:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know. Hopefully we don't devolve

2834
02:38:17.000 --> 02:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>into a World War three type of situation.

2835
02:38:18.799 --> 02:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go to war with China, although

2836
02:38:20.639 --> 02:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>that's looking more and more like an inevitability at this time,

2837
02:38:24.000 --> 02:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and they keep That's my other thing too, if they

2838
02:38:26.600 --> 02:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>were just coming after Taiwan, all right, that's a situation.

2839
02:38:30.799 --> 02:38:33.559
<v Speaker 1>They are going against every one of their neighbors right

2840
02:38:33.600 --> 02:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>now except for Russia and Mongol Well, no, they have

2841
02:38:36.559 --> 02:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>occupied sections of Mongolia.

2842
02:38:38.079 --> 02:38:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me.

2843
02:38:39.120 --> 02:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>They're going against pretty much every one of their neighbors

2844
02:38:41.879 --> 02:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty much that they have a border with. And it's

2845
02:38:45.360 --> 02:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>like they're trying to open up military fronts on like

2846
02:38:49.520 --> 02:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>five different fronts right now, while trying to continue their

2847
02:38:53.360 --> 02:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Belt and Road initiative, while trying to have a data

2848
02:38:56.639 --> 02:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>in ai war against America, while trying to put the

2849
02:39:01.120 --> 02:39:05.360
<v Speaker 1>economic news around the world even further, while being caught

2850
02:39:05.440 --> 02:39:10.079
<v Speaker 1>in espionage in so many different countries. Like it's they're

2851
02:39:10.120 --> 02:39:12.760
<v Speaker 1>doing way too much, way too fast, because they know

2852
02:39:12.879 --> 02:39:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that their biggest asset is about to be gone in

2853
02:39:17.399 --> 02:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>the next ten to twenty years.

2854
02:39:19.680 --> 02:39:22.280
<v Speaker 2>They're one asset that makes them worth.

2855
02:39:22.040 --> 02:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>A fuck in the middle in the world stage is

2856
02:39:24.959 --> 02:39:27.639
<v Speaker 1>their manpower in their workforce. And because of that one

2857
02:39:27.719 --> 02:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>child policy, they screwed themselves out of their future and

2858
02:39:31.239 --> 02:39:34.799
<v Speaker 1>they're aware of that. So now they're trying to do

2859
02:39:34.959 --> 02:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the mostest right now while they have the ability to

2860
02:39:38.239 --> 02:39:43.479
<v Speaker 1>do it, and they are playing themselves so hard, and

2861
02:39:43.520 --> 02:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>they currently have like five different uprisings in China right

2862
02:39:47.159 --> 02:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>now because the people are tired of this shit.

2863
02:39:49.520 --> 02:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, I don't want to go to war

2864
02:39:53.760 --> 02:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>with them.

2865
02:39:54.600 --> 02:39:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't, you know, the Chinese people are decent people.

2866
02:39:57.120 --> 02:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It's Jijuping in his administration and communism as a whole

2867
02:39:59.840 --> 02:40:00.799
<v Speaker 1>that I have an issue with.

2868
02:40:00.879 --> 02:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, go ahead, brother.

2869
02:40:04.760 --> 02:40:06.399
<v Speaker 10>I don't know. You kind of have to admire their

2870
02:40:06.399 --> 02:40:09.920
<v Speaker 10>tenacity a little bit, like you're in a fist fight,

2871
02:40:10.079 --> 02:40:12.200
<v Speaker 10>Like I always admire my opponent's like will to get

2872
02:40:12.239 --> 02:40:14.600
<v Speaker 10>back up or keep trying. I'm like, dude, you got

2873
02:40:14.600 --> 02:40:16.120
<v Speaker 10>the dog in you.

2874
02:40:16.120 --> 02:40:17.040
<v Speaker 4>You do try it.

2875
02:40:17.799 --> 02:40:19.280
<v Speaker 2>He's he is trying.

2876
02:40:19.319 --> 02:40:19.959
<v Speaker 4>I feel like.

2877
02:40:20.079 --> 02:40:23.520
<v Speaker 10>There has to be like another resolution because either way,

2878
02:40:23.520 --> 02:40:25.239
<v Speaker 10>at the end of the day, we're gonna be at

2879
02:40:25.280 --> 02:40:28.600
<v Speaker 10>war for resources, like whether it be one hundred years,

2880
02:40:28.600 --> 02:40:31.600
<v Speaker 10>two hundred years, regardless, So we all should probably start

2881
02:40:31.639 --> 02:40:37.719
<v Speaker 10>thinking about, especially for them like great great great grandkids,

2882
02:40:38.000 --> 02:40:41.959
<v Speaker 10>like how do you like resolve this shit or start

2883
02:40:42.000 --> 02:40:45.479
<v Speaker 10>mining minerals off a different planet, because.

2884
02:40:45.600 --> 02:40:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, the Earth takes care of itself.

2885
02:40:48.200 --> 02:40:51.399
<v Speaker 10>It's only got finite shit for the amount of technology

2886
02:40:51.440 --> 02:40:52.280
<v Speaker 10>we're trying to produce.

2887
02:40:53.200 --> 02:40:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I do like how we just struck that deal with

2888
02:40:55.000 --> 02:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Ukraine for their rare earth minerals. And yes, I understand

2889
02:40:57.399 --> 02:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you're right, it's a finite source. One hundred percent agree.

2890
02:41:00.079 --> 02:41:03.760
<v Speaker 2>With you on that. However, I like how that's shut

2891
02:41:03.840 --> 02:41:06.120
<v Speaker 2>up so many people as far as like we've given

2892
02:41:06.159 --> 02:41:09.159
<v Speaker 2>how much to Ukraine? But but bup, it's like, did

2893
02:41:09.280 --> 02:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>y'all think this was free? Did you honestly with your

2894
02:41:13.159 --> 02:41:16.719
<v Speaker 2>with your working functioning brain, think that America was giving

2895
02:41:16.920 --> 02:41:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Ukraine all of this money and weapons and all of

2896
02:41:19.719 --> 02:41:24.680
<v Speaker 2>this for free. No, it's always been about the back

2897
02:41:24.760 --> 02:41:27.159
<v Speaker 2>end deal. It's always been about getting paid back later.

2898
02:41:27.399 --> 02:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>They don't have the money to pass back later, but

2899
02:41:29.159 --> 02:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>they just so happen to have these minds with rare

2900
02:41:31.319 --> 02:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>earth minerals that we need that we don't want to

2901
02:41:33.879 --> 02:41:38.079
<v Speaker 1>go through China to get. So I like that America

2902
02:41:38.200 --> 02:41:41.280
<v Speaker 1>just got Zelensky to sign. I think that's excellent. Now,

2903
02:41:41.280 --> 02:41:43.959
<v Speaker 1>if only we can get Putin to come and sign

2904
02:41:44.000 --> 02:41:46.479
<v Speaker 1>a deal, it could all be over. It could be great.

2905
02:41:46.920 --> 02:41:52.000
<v Speaker 2>But no, he's invading yet another territory. Because that's that's

2906
02:41:52.120 --> 02:41:55.159
<v Speaker 2>that's the jam. So I don't know, man, I feel you.

2907
02:41:55.239 --> 02:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I I That's the other thing too, if we go

2908
02:41:57.559 --> 02:42:02.159
<v Speaker 1>to Mars, hypothetically, if Elon gets there, I don't know

2909
02:42:02.200 --> 02:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of any minerals that are on there. I know they

2910
02:42:04.760 --> 02:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>have crystallized methanol, and I know they have iron oxide

2911
02:42:08.040 --> 02:42:11.159
<v Speaker 1>all over the planet, and that's why it's red allegedly, right.

2912
02:42:11.680 --> 02:42:13.760
<v Speaker 1>And I know people are gonna say planets aren't real.

2913
02:42:13.879 --> 02:42:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Look fine, fine, you believe what you believe. I'll believe

2914
02:42:16.520 --> 02:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>what I believe. I'm not here to I'm not here

2915
02:42:18.479 --> 02:42:21.559
<v Speaker 1>to pinch you know the details on this. But that

2916
02:42:21.680 --> 02:42:24.719
<v Speaker 1>being said, I don't know what kind of minerals there

2917
02:42:24.840 --> 02:42:28.280
<v Speaker 1>is in the inner core of Mars. If there is

2918
02:42:28.840 --> 02:42:32.639
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of rare earths or rare quote unquote Mars

2919
02:42:32.680 --> 02:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>minerals that we could somehow get and ship back to Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm here for that noise. But then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just have a different style of space race go on,

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02:42:44.440 --> 02:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and then it will be actual star wars, like we're

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02:42:47.719 --> 02:42:52.559
<v Speaker 1>gonna have space pirates trying to shoot down these rockets

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<v Speaker 1>that they can collect the minerals for themselves in space,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Which sounds fun it sounds fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, space pirates sounds like a really cool thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there, I.

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<v Speaker 10>Know you're going like on the negative side, but I

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02:43:10.959 --> 02:43:12.520
<v Speaker 10>was like, that sounds awesome to me.

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<v Speaker 1>As I say it out loud, it actually doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a net negative, does it. Like, so you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me there's a real possibility to be as a spaceship

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<v Speaker 1>door gunner.

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02:43:21.840 --> 02:43:23.920
<v Speaker 10>Why exactly, I could be an X wing fighter.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a greater than zero percent chance that star Wars

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02:43:28.600 --> 02:43:32.760
<v Speaker 2>and space piracy can be a real thing. Like, ah, hey,

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02:43:32.799 --> 02:43:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm having a hard time finding a negative here. To

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, prob.

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<v Speaker 1>More funding to the Space Force, obviously, all right, everybody cool.

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<v Speaker 1>We have gone for almost three hours on this evening,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, we're gonna go ahead and wrap this one up.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to thank everybody for coming and joining me

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<v Speaker 2>on this journey.

2945
02:43:54.559 --> 02:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>This episode, we talked about some world news, we talked

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02:43:56.799 --> 02:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>about some some Sanhedrin, we talked about some potential wars

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, and some economics and all the things.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a fun one. I love this. So I

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02:44:07.719 --> 02:44:09.479
<v Speaker 2>got to get through and edit this one to put

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<v Speaker 2>it out here. In a few minutes. Once again, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you everybody for joining me tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>If any listener would like to join us for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cajun Night Live and join the Cohort next week Wednesday night,

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02:44:21.479 --> 02:44:23.879
<v Speaker 1>nine pm Central, then come check out the Cajun Night

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<v Speaker 1>on Patreon.

2956
02:44:24.600 --> 02:44:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Link is in the description below. There's only one tier

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<v Speaker 2>for admission here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just trying to grow this thing and let it

2959
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<v Speaker 1>be a different type of conversation and one that we can.

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<v Speaker 2>All benefit from.

2961
02:44:36.200 --> 02:44:38.479
<v Speaker 1>We grow from, we learn a little bit, we share

2962
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<v Speaker 1>some ideas, we debate openly, and I absolutely have grown

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<v Speaker 1>to love my Wednesday night meetups. So again, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>everybody for joining and as always, God bless st
