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but I will be doing so anyway. It's Bill O'Reilly,
the legendary broadcaster and author nineteen number one books, including
the Whole Killing Series, which was a best selling non
fiction series of all time, more than twenty million in print,
and you can follow his work at Bill O'Reilly dot com,
as well as his No Spin news on YouTube, The
First TV and DirecTV. Bill, welcome back to the show.
How are you good?
Speaker 2: Dude? It thanks hadding me back? How you bet?
Speaker 1: H Well, I mean, it's been a it's been a
last three weeks here since the murder of the woman
on our train here in Charlotte and then that went
national with the release of the video, and then of
course Charlie Kirk's assassination. But it's been it's been tough,
and I know you've talked about actually both of those,
Charlie Kirk and Arena Zeruska. And I was watching your
program the other day and you mentioned the magistrate who
turned to Carlos Brown loose with with no bail, and
you said that she enabled evil. And you were talking
in the context of your latest book now, which is
called Confronting Evil, Assessing the Worst of the Worst and
so what so you'll read on it is that she
enabled evil and that evil walks among us and has
you know since the beginning, but you believe it's on
the rise.
Speaker 2: Yes, the judge's got to go. By the way, I'm
doing a follow up on No Spin News tonight, access
off Bill O'Reilly dot com. But it's everywhere she's got
to go. And the reason is that she had options
to keep this guy confined. And when you are at it,
admitted schizophrenic and you beat up your sister and you
have fourteen arrests. You don't put a man like that
back on the street. Now, they're playing games in Charlotte.
The district court is saying, oh, we're investigating and all,
you know, but they usually do ceya. So I'm going
to put up an address of the governor of North
Carolina tonight on my program. I'm going to say, look,
if you have any desire to promote good in this country,
you need to contact this governor and tell him he
has to insert himself into this case because this woman
riding on the US in Charlotte. We can't have that
in America. We just can't have it. It wasn't a
random killing in the sense that it was unpredictable. It
was very predictable because of who this guy was. He
was in the criminal justice system. The judge, for whatever reason,
never explains yourself. Of course lets him out and he
slaughters the woman. Well, the judge has a responsibility, and
that's what the governor has to He has to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath on that.
Given John, then he's.
Speaker 2: Got to pay a political poes. Yeah, you know. I mean, look,
if the good people of North Carolina feel the way
that I do and you do, then the next time
there's an election, you've got to go for the law
enforcement candidates period.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we're going to see an interesting test
of that too next year when Roy Cooper, who was
the Attorney General for four term sixteen years, governor for
another two terms of eight years, and you know, in
the summer of fiery but mostly peaceful riots, that Cooper
went ahead and did this racial justice equity task for stuff,
and they implemented a lot of this quote soft on
crime stuff. And so I think we'll see a test
of it as to whether or not voters will punish
somebody for the kind of lawlessness that has become far
too I think acceptable.
Speaker 2: Well, because that's the big part of the exposing evil
and confronting it situation. You've got to use your vote.
And here in New York City where I am, it's insane. Yeah,
we're just about to elect a mayor that won't enforce
a lot at all. Yeah, and where do you see
the bodiespile up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, and he's he go distance.
Speaker 2: Himself from work. Comes a point where I'm hoping the
good people out number the bad people in America, and
in some areas they do, and in some areas they don't.
Speaker 1: Trimble Is that so we've talked about this before. You
were also a history teacher right earlier in life, and
you mentioned the book here, and I do appreciate and
I've complimented you on this before, but I'll say it
again and that you are a communicator. And the way
you write your books make me feel smart because I
can read them very quickly because I'm a very slow reader.
And so I always appreciate that the way you tell
the story obviously comes from a communications background and expertise,
and so the stories that they are approachable, they're captivating,
it's intriguing, it's fast paced, and you cover all sorts
of evil people.
Speaker 3: In this book.
Speaker 1: And you say that the book tells us how evil
gains strength, who helps these people? Who stays silent? And
I mean, you go over some of the baddies in history.
Were there any that that that didn't make it into
the book that you had to cut or anything? Or
was this was this the full? The full?
Speaker 3: Look?
Speaker 2: No, we're going to put Paul Pott in their idiom
mean a whole bunch of people, but every person, all
fifteen evildoers, they're four on the cover. Prudent. I had
toolaholmany now and Hitler and then there are eleven in
the pages in addition to those guys, and they all
The reason I chose them was because they are relevance
to today. They all link into today, whereas a Paul
Pott in Cambodia, a horrible, heinous mass murderer, didn't have
any effect on American life. So that's why I chose
these guys. And as far as our writing style is concerned,
we're the most the best selling nonfiction authors in the
world now. And because I know how busy people are,
I know it takes a while to get through most books,
but not mine. You can read my books. They'll keep
you up at night. And we do that because we
do it on purpose. We want to arrest your attention,
get to the point, because we know you don't have
a lot of discretionary time. I'm talking to you, the
American people, and so the form has worked very well.
But the importance of this book is it came out
last Tuesday, Peter, and then on Wednesday, I wake up
and put his lobbin drones and missiles into Poland Ultra dangerous,
ultra dangerous. And then a few hours later, Charlie Kirk
is assassinated and it's almost like I'm Nostra Damosphere confronting
evil because evil is on the rise, and if we
look away, and many of us do, it's going to
get worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 1: So what connection. I think you also said this on
your YouTube show, the No Spin News, that the incendiary
rhetoric that this helps to fomenter it leads to evil.
You were commenting about the comments that were made on
the view, and what I kept thinking of was Rwanda
Radio and how they're whipping up on their broadcast, whipped
up a genocide essentially, And I wonder if the last
decade of that kind of incendiary rhetoric here in America
also played played a role in the violence that we
saw against Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: I don't know it was the rhetoric as much as
social media. Now you can put that under the rhetoric category.
But the initial investigation of the alleged fashion is that
he spent a lot of time on the dark pages
of the Internet. And there is real danger, real danger
because you have unstable people, some of them mentally ill.
There's no accountability, it all none, and if you're living
in there, if that's where you're going for your hobby
or for your information, whatever it may be, and that
dark world starts to become your world. Then you start
to become delusional. And this is what mental illness is. Now.
Miller's does not excuse evil because the guy knew what
he was doing. The guy in Utah gets the rifle,
goes up on a platform and executes mister Kirk. He
knew exactly what he was doing, but just the fact
that he would do it shows that he was mentally ill. However,
he's culpable. He'll never see the light of day again.
I don't know whether they'll execute him in Utah, but
I believe they probably will. But even as the case
plays out, the damage is already done to the Kirk
family and to the shooter's own family. This shooter destroyed
his own family. His mother and father and brothers still
never ever recover from this. And that's what evil does.
It just spreads out and anybody it touches gets affected
for a lifetime. And so many people don't understand that.
They don't want it's too unpleasant to look at it.
And that's why this book Confronting Evil is so important.
Speaker 1: People can catch Bill's work Bill O'Reilly dot com. The
YouTube show also no Spin News And did you say
no spin news dot com? Is that also your site?
Speaker 2: No, it's Jilly dot com And then you can track
down how you can get the nose spin News. We
also have a phenomenally successful YouTube channel which is really
getting a lot of younger and worldwide views. It's YouTube
dot YouTube dot com slash Bill O'Reilly YouTube dot com
slash Bill O'Reilly and I put a lot of stuff
in fact, I'm going to just record something in about
an hour about the repercussions of the Kirk assassination that's
going to change things in America and that the people
who are the most hateful are going to have to
go under ground. They just fire a Washington Post reporter,
They fired a guy from MSNBC. Major companies are firing
personnel all over the place that are acting out in
hateful ways. And I don't like to see anybody's life
altered like that. But you've got to stop the hate.
Speaker 4: We have a stop.
Speaker 1: There's a police chief in Durham, North Carolina that posted
about this not too pleasant. It has been shocked. Are
you surprised how many educators are reacting the way they've
been reacting.
Speaker 2: No. Yeah, because those educators have been poisoned by ideology.
They live in a bubble. Yeah, they don't live in
the real world, the educators. Look, I attended Harvard. When
I was at Harvard getting a master's degree, it wasn't
nearly as bad as it is now. But eighty two
percent of the people who teach at Harvard are left,
far left. They never hear the other side. They don't
have any respect for the other side. They live in
a bubble. They tell themselves all as garbage that isn't true.
Nobody challenges them, so I'm not surprised at all. Yeah,
you know, you create. You can create your own world
in America now, and that's very dangerous.
Speaker 1: Reader's work, Bill O'Reilly dot com. Check out the YouTube
channel as well. Bill, thank you for your time. As always,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me in. Peter really appreciate it.
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I love watching Charlie Kirk. He reminded me so much
of Rush Limbaugh. He will be truly missed, and that
is one of the things. There has been an explosion
on social media followers and views of all sorts of
videos of Charlie Kirk going to these college campuses and
having these debates and such, and so more and more
people are now being exposed to the content that he
actually created and the views that he actually held, and
not the twisted, bastardized versions that you see quoted out
of context by leftists who are giddy that he was assassinated.
And I'm also told that there is a memorial tonight
at seven o'clock in Monroe. That's all the information I
saw about that. And again another please remind people there
is a walk tonight at seven o'clock Monroe, North Carolina
for Charlie. You don't know any of the details. The
first I've heard of it, So if you have details,
send them along. I'm happy to convey it. But I
don't know the details of it. What else we know
more about the murderer. We know more about his roommate
slash romantic partner, a dude who began identifying as a female,
and they were apparently in a relationship. This person's name
is Lance Twigs, twenty two years old, lived with the
accused assassin in an apartment in Saint George, Utah, about
four hours from Utah Valley University, where Kirk was murdered.
Andy No reporting on Twigs's social media history, which most
of it remains online, went by various names on various accounts,
but andy No and other Internet salutes have been tracking
it down. Not going to go over all of the
different names that this person used, but they changed. He
changed his preferred display name on the gaming platform Steam,
which is where you buy games and stuff, and you know,
there are store like every game has a store page,
and people write reviews and that sort of stuff. But
you have a profile on there, and you can change
your your name, and he apparently did change his name
in December from Lance to Luna. A search of Reddit,
another website which is just a cesspool search of Reddit
for user names connected to his Steam user name history
revealed a match, with the display name being the same.
Biographical details also line up with Lance Twigs. That account
was highly active on one of the subreddit uh channels
or rooms if you will, for tran, not four chan,
the frog pepe, the frog meme troll guys, not four chan,
it's a whole different website, but for tran, which discusses
transgender stuff. Yes, Twigs on this subreddit posted about his
anxiety with injecting cross sex hormones, and then said at
one point in one post Trump winning has motivated me
to finally fix my life. I won't let the idiot
CIS fags who want me to be miserable win. I'll
be independent, fit, happy, and trans and they can't stop me.
So I kind of feel like there's a connection to
the transgender radicals. Maybe I don't know. We may never know.
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Andy No's report, and this is from his website, No comment,
ngo comment because that's how he spells his last name,
ngo no anyway, no comment dot com talking about the
social media footprint of the roommate of the assassin of
Charlie Kirk. This guy named Lance Twiggs was raised in
a devout Mormon family, but said he left the faith.
He posted on a subreddit ex Christian is the name
of the subreddit, and he claimed he was expelled from
his family home after refusing religious spiritual help. Twiggs was
mentioned in the Utah criminal complaint against the murderer as
an unnamed roommate who cooperated with investigators after being contacted.
The shooter allegedly sent his trans partner messages related to
the shooting. Surveillance video of the suspected gunman near the
campus shows him appearing to communicate with somebody on his phone.
Twiggs has not been accused of any crime at this time.
Axios reports that investigators are examining whether radical leftist groups
in Utah played a role in the alleged assassination plan.
One unnamed group had scrubbed its social media after the shooting,
Like immediately after the shooting, they just like they newked
their social media accounts. Washington Free Beacon reporting that the
FBI is investigating social media posts made by at least
seven different accounts that appear to indicate for knowledge of
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and almost all of them
are non binary trans They follow Lance Twigs, they're friends
of his on a social media platform of some kind,
so that continues. They have DNA found on the towel
that was used to wrap up the gun. That's according
to FBI director Cash Patel, who told this to Fox
News this morning. I believe it was that they got
DNA off of the off of that towel, and they
also got DNA off of a screwdriver that was at
the where the gunman had set up on the top
of the roof. I assume that's that the screwdriver is
meant to be able to, like, you know, try to
gain access to a door or something if need be,
and so they got his DNA off of that as well.
Contrary to the initial reports, he is not cooperating with
law enforcement. He's not talking to them, So the investigation continues.
There was well, let me do this. Rob Henderson is
a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He's the author
of a book called Troubled, a memoir of foster care,
family and social class, and he has a piece posted
at The Times dot Com headlined what the death of
Charlie Kirk means for the American Left. He says, the
fact that Kirk was killed at a college campus while
speaking his mind shows how dangerous it's become to share
your views in public. Kirk's life and his death will
be felt far beyond his own movement. What will endure
is Kirk's example, particularly his belief in debate, free speech,
and challenging prevailing orthodoxies with words rather than violence. As
Ezra Kline pointed out at The New York Times, Kirk
did politics the right way. He believed in dialogue, He
believed in debate. He believed in persuasion rather than coercion.
But more and more people no longer trust the Enlightenment
ideal that words can resolve disagreements. Their view goes something
like this, everything you believe.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should say his dude, like everything you believe,
man was like invented by someone. Your ideas the books
you read, even the words you speak, they were all
made by people with their own interests. In blind spots,
the values of speech and open inquiry carry the fingerprints
of the society. He's the championed them. And so from
this point of view, they conclude that nobody can give
an objective account of reality. There is no neutral truth.
Every political system was designed by somebody with some hidden agenda.
It is one thing to admit that we're all biased
but still try to be fair. But it's another to
give up on truth entirely and simply impose your will
on others. And this gets to the ideals of the Enlightenment,
which held that every person has worth. Western nations have
often fallen short of this ideal, to be sure, but
we forget how radical it was that this idea took
hold at all. Beliefs about human dignity have become so
common that we now take them for granted. This is
what is meant by American exceptionalism. It's that we were
the exception, he says. People forget that a piece society
that allows disagreement about important issues is actually a deviation
from the historical norm, and it can be lost very quickly,
and that is what is being chipped away right now.
And those tearing it down may not like what comes next.
I would say you will not like what comes next,
because then it's whoever has the most power will shut
up everybody else. That's the other way this goes, right,
the use of force to silence dissent. That's the way
it has always been. Western society is the outlier in
this regard that every person has worth. That in America,
your speech is protected because you are a child of God,
that you are endowed by the Creator with that inalienable right,
and you get to participate in your own governance, and
you don't get to be silenced because you have a
different opinion.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: The tribute event for Charlie Kirk is in downtown Monroe
at seven pm, Downtown Munroe. That is the way you
say that, all right, So let me play this clip here.
This is Rob Henderson again. He is a senior fellow
at the Manhattan Institute, author of the book Troubled, a
memoir of foster care, family and social class, and in
this piece at the Times dot com, he says violence
as a response to disagreement is natural, which is precisely
why it must be repeatedly condemned. A twenty twenty three
study from psychologist Christopher di Petsko and Nur Katilie uncovered
something troubling about how Americans see one another. Conservatives tend
to view liberals as immature, irresponsible, gullible, and irrational like children.
Liberals in turn, tend to see conservatives as savage, aggressive,
cold hearted, barbaric. Lit bit of a different take there,
here's Rob Henderson.
Speaker 4: People with narcissistic and or psychopathic personality traits are attracted
to certain ideologies and forms of political activism. They use
activism as a vehicle to satisfy their own ego focused
needs instead of actually working towards social justice. And I
think we're seeing this across the political spectrum that people
who have vicious personality traits, you know, high on what
are known as the dark triad or now sometimes people
will refer to the dark tetrad narcissism, psychopathy, machiavlianism, and
then if you use the dark tetrad model, there's sadism.
People who are high on these traits will essentially hijack
movements for their own twisted ends, and you know, allows
them to disguise their ugly motives with some you know benevolence,
some you know moral camouflage, but in fact they're using
it for to bolster their own sense of admiration, respect, prestige,
and so on. And this is why you know it's
a mistake. I think to use the most extreme and
vicious individuals as representative. Most people are not very high
on these trades, but the ones who are have a megaphone.
They enjoy attention, they enjoy courting, controversy, They post a lot,
they share a lot, They love to hear themselves speak.
So you know, it's worth being aware of that kind
of classic one percent role of social media. That one
percent of people post the majority of the content you
see online, nine percent will comment or engage with that material,
post content in some way, and then ninety percent of
people are mostly just lurkers. Is not really contributing to
the discussion at all.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm the nine percent because I do, like
I don't generate a lot of content, but I do
reply and retweet and such. But note what he said
there all across the political spectrum because the ideology doesn't
necessarily matter. This is where you get into the woke
right stuff and people are like, what does that mean?
I don't understand. It's the same sort of personality type
that takes control of particular movements because they have power.
That's the point. The ideology is secondary. They can learn
whatever the language is necessary to justify their presence or
their leadership of a particular movement or idea. That's all secondary.
The key is that they're fulfilling their own internal psychological
needs and they will use these movements, they will hijack them.
And you're seeing it on the right, and you're definitely
seeing it on the left, and that's why you need
to call it out when it's on either side. All right,
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