WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:05.040 Let's go. 2 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:11.039 Welcome, Hi the Pro Audio Suite. 3 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:13.720 Thanks you guys, a professional and motivated with text. 4 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:17.519 The video stars George Whittam, founder of Source Element, Robert Marshall, 5 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:21.920 International Audio Engineer Darren, Robbo Roberts and Global Voice Andrew Peters. 6 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:25.839 Thanks to Triboo, Austrian Audio Making Passion, her Sauce Elements, 7 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:29.839 George the tech Witam and Robbo and APS International Demos. 8 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:32.240 Find out more about us check the Pro Audio Suite 9 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:38.799 dot com and welcome to another pro audio suite thanks 10 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:41.920 to Austrian Audio Making Passion heard you can see it 11 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:42.799 now because rom. 12 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:47.359 Video exactly scary. Yeah, yeah, here we are actually it's all. 13 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:53.079 Oh you got the C eight C eight eighteen eighty eight. 14 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:56.920 We are equipped. Oh we're covering all bases here. Lovely 15 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:00.479 talking about audio stuff though, George, you have a little 16 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:01.880 present that arrived in the mile. 17 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:06.159 I've got show until yeah, that's why they're doing video. 18 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:12.280 Do show and then tell well, my friends at full 19 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:16.560 Compass is a great catalog here in the US. Has 20 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:19.519 actually been around a long time, like I'm not sure 21 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:22.200 longer than Sweetwater, but I've dealt with Full Compas since 22 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:26.280 the nineties, so they've been around for a while. They 23 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:29.840 when I found out that the SSL, the great makers 24 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.959 of the SSL two that we've all probably used, owned 25 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:37.560 or played with or at some point know about. Yeah, 26 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:39.239 and you've got two s got two. 27 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:44.040 SSL two's which could be an SSL four yeah together 28 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:45.280 super glue. 29 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:50.799 So I don't know. I guess my best possible guest 30 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:53.760 here is that they thought price point and they just 31 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:56.519 needed a product that would dip down in the sub 32 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:01.000 two hundred dollars US range to compete with the scarlets 33 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:03.359 of the world, right, yeah, and so. 34 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:05.959 They date with the scarlets of the world. 35 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:12.039 Well, yeah, the SSL the scarlet two I two is 36 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.800 round as in the two hundred dollar ballpark. The solo 37 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:20.840 is what one fifty one sixty US? Yeah, So no 38 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.919 surprise what towever that the SSL one is also at 39 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:29.120 about that same price point, around one sixty US. So 40 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.400 here it is, I shall rip it out of the 41 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:33.360 box un ceremoniously, because. 42 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:36.240 Two inns is that correct? 43 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:37.400 Well? 44 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:40.360 What one mike pre probably in the guitar inputt. 45 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:42.039 Yeah, in most cases when they say it's a one 46 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:43.639 input device, it's not. 47 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:45.879 It's like the same thing as the solo. The solo's 48 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.280 that way from Scarlet. 49 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:51.520 Very minimalistic packaging, really just cardboard paper, which is what 50 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:55.280 you want to see these days. And then it's got 51 00:02:55.560 --> 00:03:00.319 a USB C to USB C cable with no after 52 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:03.960 so it's a you know it's USBC, so move on, 53 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:09.280 which you move on? You, I mean, the only thing 54 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:11.280 that's annoying is a lot of US have USB C 55 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:14.159 hubs that we're using and they have a ports on them. 56 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:18.240 But frankly it's probably not recommended to use any audio 57 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:22.120 device in a hub. Not generally not a good idea. 58 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.840 There there are exceptions, and we've come up with some 59 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:27.759 workarounds to that problem, but generally it's not a good idea. 60 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.800 It's also generally not a good idea to not use 61 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.840 the factory cable, although I think now with USB C 62 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.879 it's so much of a standard nowadays that it shouldn't 63 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:41.719 be as difficult to use a different cable. In fact, 64 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:44.599 we've used with our very own passport, I have used 65 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:49.680 a four meter I think four meter optical USB cable 66 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.639 that uses optical and it worked a treat, so it 67 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:56.479 probably would work with this. So here it is. It 68 00:03:56.560 --> 00:04:00.680 looks really familiar to the SOS too. Once the first 69 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:02.759 things you noticed that it doesn't have is it doesn't 70 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:08.560 have the big four K buttons down, so it's only 71 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:11.800 one mic pre and one four K mojo. 72 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:16.360 That's well, that's like it's there. Oh, it is there. Okay, 73 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:18.720 it's up there. It is up here now, okay. 74 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:21.360 I kind of like that. I always thought it was 75 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.199 annoying that the button that really most voice actors should 76 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:31.279 never press was this giant, beautiful well. I would always 77 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:34.680 always laughed because I was like, the biggest buttons and 78 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:38.600 the giantest knob are irrelevant to most voice actors because 79 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.680 they're never using any of them. They're just using headphones. 80 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.399 But anyway, so it's it's just cleaned up a bit. 81 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.800 They shrunk the chassis, they don't have those big buttons, 82 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:51.360 single mic pre amp here, instrument input there as you 83 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:56.199 would expect, right, such a common design nowadays. Instrument that 84 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.680 the mic input is not a combo, so it is 85 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:03.120 strict a mic input, not a combo. And then your 86 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:07.519 instrument here so again just like the scarlet, and then 87 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:11.240 your quarter inch outputs and a dual USB because they 88 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:14.399 felt why not, what's at a second one just for powering? 89 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:19.800 I guess they had enough users still on legacy devices 90 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:22.519 that just wouldn't power it, and so we'll have a. 91 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:28.040 That's a good idea. Yeah, I think does the Liewitt 92 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:31.959 have that or the not? The audience doesn't not too many. 93 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:35.480 It's pretty, it's pretty, it's not. It's not that common. 94 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:36.399 It's becoming. 95 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:38.759 Oh, oh, I know it has it. The focus right 96 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:39.040 has that. 97 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.639 Oh, the focus right does. So it's it's very clear 98 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.839 that whatever the Focus Right had, they were going to 99 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.439 make sure this one has it too, you know. But 100 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:49.240 there's a lot of things that Focus Right does this 101 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:52.439 doesn't do, and that's where the differences start to really 102 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:55.839 come into play. So what I like about this is 103 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:01.120 that it does have a physical gain knob pop. I 104 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.519 know that's a that's going to be an issue. 105 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:04.600 I don't like that anymore. 106 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:08.279 Yeah, you can't tell us why, Robert, I can't tell 107 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:10.160 you why, but I don't like that any But it 108 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.600 does any physical knob. So when I'm teaching somebody how 109 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:15.560 to record and set their levels, I can just tell 110 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.639 them start it at twelve o'clock, increase it a little 111 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.399 bit as needed, and it's just really clear and obvious 112 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:23.319 where the knob is set. You don't have to guess, 113 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:26.800 so that you know a lot of products with digital knobs. 114 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:34.079 The unfortunately they don't all have a dB gain indicator. Right, If, 115 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:36.800 like the scarlets and others of that, ILK had a 116 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:41.360 little LCD saying you're at minus twenty seven d B 117 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.920 gain or whatever plus twenty seventy B gain, that would 118 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:47.879 be cool, and a few do, but most of them don't. 119 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:50.959 So I still find this to be just easier. It's 120 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.360 certainly easier for teaching. It's easier for learning how to record, 121 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:55.959 it's more straightforward. 122 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:58.480 The nice thing about the digital knobs is that you 123 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:02.720 can really make presets and you can get really perfect recallability. 124 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:06.240 And also they don't go scratchy. 125 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:07.560 That's right. 126 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:10.160 Yeah, they just go away, don't completely when they break, 127 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:12.519 they just they're just like no more control at all. 128 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.560 Yeah, the digital knob is there until it ain't, and 129 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:17.439 when it goes, it's just throwing the trash. 130 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:19.240 And the other thing they could have they could have 131 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:22.279 stepped it, which being easier to. 132 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:24.800 Well, usually all the. 133 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:28.240 Digital stuff is stepped and the analog stuff is usually 134 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:30.759 not stepped. And the one nice thing about the with 135 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:32.959 a digital knob, you always have to be careful about 136 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.399 turning it in real time, because if it's stepped, it 137 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:38.920 might zipper as you turn it up or down, depending 138 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.240 on the size of the steps. But the analog knobs, 139 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:46.279 they're continuous, including all the scratchy junk. 140 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:50.920 That pots feel smooth. I'm assuming it's some kind of 141 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:52.120 a sealed pot. I don't know. 142 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:54.120 But are they pretty solid? 143 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:58.920 No, there's there, it really is. There is no detectable wiggliness. 144 00:07:59.120 --> 00:07:59.680 That's nice. 145 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.199 It's a good solid call's a that's a rarity these days. 146 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:06.759 Where is it night? Is it China? Yeah? 147 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:07.600 Probably? 148 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:10.680 It says designed Oxford building. 149 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:13.839 Engineered in the UK, assembled in Malaysia. 150 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.000 Well, Malisa, okay. 151 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:20.319 So so so so what else do you like about it? 152 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:24.120 Does the usual? The four K buttons there if you 153 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:28.879 really must, And I think some men's voices benefit from 154 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.240 the four K, like, for example mine, I have a 155 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.480 kind of a Every time I hear it, it sounds 156 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:36.200 on the dark side. It's a little bit overly warm 157 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:39.000 and dark. So the four K could be nice. Most 158 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.200 people probably don't want to use it, but it does 159 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:44.639 have the high pass filter. I like that. I like 160 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:46.279 that it has a high pass filter. A lot of 161 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.679 folks are on teel on one O threes and they're wet, 162 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:53.120 so they're picking up. 163 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:56.480 God, do you know where that high pass filter is 164 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:57.159 hinging on? 165 00:08:57.720 --> 00:08:59.639 That's what I'm saying. Where does it? See? Yeah, you 166 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:02.279 know there is no there is no Oh I lied. 167 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.240 I was gonna say there's no manual. The manual is 168 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.039 almost always nowadays a QR code. 169 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:07.399 Yeah, but there is. 170 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:11.080 There is a piece of paper and all the people, 171 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:15.080 all the paper is is to satisfy legal requirements. Right, 172 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:19.960 this is no expection exception. Okay, see where the high 173 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:20.679 boss field is. 174 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.799 And every so lawyers are keeping trees in business. 175 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:29.559 Yeah, exactly, every every single possible language is printed inside 176 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.720 the book. So I will have to actually look that 177 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.519 one up for you. I would almost in Swahili with it. 178 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:39.960 I'm pretty sure it's eighty hertz with a twelve d 179 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:42.720 V proactive slope roll es. Surely that wouldn't be stupid 180 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.960 enough to put it ridiculously high. No, that's a pretty 181 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.600 commonly placed pre set setting. So I liked. I do 182 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.720 like that it has. I think a lot of home 183 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.440 studio users benefit from preemptively rolling off the low end 184 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:00.960 with their tailing one of threes. The buttons have little 185 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.759 lights underneath. So these are actually digital buttons. They're not 186 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:08.879 latching soft they're not latching hardware. They're digital software buttons. 187 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:13.080 So they're actually going to light ignite those little indicators. 188 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.720 Telling you that was a big complaint of the first 189 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.279 gen is the buttons had no lights or indicators and 190 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:21.039 they were really hard to tell if they were up 191 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:25.360 or down. You really had to right, would you agree 192 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:26.039 with that, Andrew? 193 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.000 Which is a total console maker thing if you think 194 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:33.399 about the way the SSL board is itself, not every 195 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:34.480 single button had a light. 196 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:38.799 Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. So because I don't 197 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:41.960 have a I don't have any spare USBC ports on 198 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:45.080 my system. Everything's everything is being used. But I do 199 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.440 have an iPhone, so I just plugged it into the 200 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.960 iPhone and it lit. It lit right up. It's a 201 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:55.559 little power indicator and so now we can get uh 202 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:59.559 oh yeah, ghantum slashes for a moment to tell you 203 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:04.960 it's aged. There's your four K and there is your 204 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.480 low cut. So that's nice. I like that. Now let's 205 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.080 see if they remember their state when you unplug it. 206 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.159 Mm hmm, because you know, people forget to turn on 207 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:19.000 their their phantom power all the time. That's a problem. 208 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.159 It's gonna be plug it, plug it back in again, 209 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:24.120 don't dun't dum. 210 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:25.600 Oh. 211 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:30.759 Yes, the memory, Yeah, so it's got to go. It's 212 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:32.720 got like a flash memory. It knows that state, it's 213 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:36.240 current state. So some pretty fancy firmware in that thing. 214 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:40.080 And then and then it has a mixed button. And 215 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:44.039 my understanding, again not having read the user manually yet sorry, 216 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.039 is that the mix button is simply just a direct monitor, 217 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.120 just like the SSL. This just like the Scarlet. So 218 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:54.200 you want to hear yourself press mix. 219 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.720 You don't want no volume control. 220 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:01.440 That is the one lack feature lack that is glaringly 221 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:02.799 missing from this that. 222 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:04.559 The Scarlet's got the same problem. 223 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:09.279 Scarlet has the same problems direct or not. So I figured, yeah, 224 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.879 I figured they looked at Scarlet, are like, this is 225 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:16.279 the most freaking popular beginner audio interface on the planet. 226 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:18.879 What are they selling? What are Let's just put it 227 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.200 all on ours and if it doesn't have the Blend 228 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:23.960 control then we don't need it and we can save it. 229 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.879 We can save two dollars and take the Blend mob out. 230 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:31.000 That's a bummer. I really like the Blend NB. If 231 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:34.799 you never do directed sessions. Passports a blend. The passport 232 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:39.000 has a blend. Yeah, if you're always doing directed sessions, 233 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:42.240 it's really nice to have. If you're never doing directed sessions, 234 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:44.720 you don't need it. If you don't like wearing headphones, 235 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.559 you don't need it. It's really for people that wear 236 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:51.200 headphones that blend headphone model Blend NOB is nice. And 237 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:54.200 then of course just the volume NOB for the headphones there. 238 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.440 Cool, looks good, It's funny. I'm talking about interfaces though, 239 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:02.240 and we talked about this before week got on. And 240 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:06.240 I'm curious to find someone in another country apart from America, 241 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.639 who has a passport for you and see if they 242 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:14.600 can actually plug their iPhone into the comms and use 243 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:16.679 it as a phone patch and get a really good signal. 244 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:21.279 Here I'm using my passport as a phone patch and 245 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:26.440 it works perfectly, and for some peculiar reason, it doesn't 246 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.879 seem to work in America, and it didn't work here 247 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:32.240 last year. So something in the last twelve months has 248 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:35.600 changed to our the way our telcos work. I have 249 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.879 no idea. Yeah, yeah, but if there's someone like in 250 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:41.639 the UK or somewhere or Europe or whatever, if you've 251 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:43.200 got a passport for you, give it a go and 252 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:44.279 let us know how it goes. 253 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:46.559 Yeah, going to try mine today. Yeah, I plugged in 254 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.159 a tiny little lab mic that was laying on my 255 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:54.120 desk into the second sport using a road lavali er 256 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:58.080 mic adapter. So it's just you can plug a heath 257 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:02.039 inch lab right into this, yeah, road adapter. It's called 258 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:06.240 the vxl R plus. I think I think these are 259 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:06.919 like ten dollars. 260 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.600 Is that lab trs like it's balanced? 261 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.759 Well, this lab jack is, but I'm pretty sure it 262 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:15.240 works with a non balanced on. 263 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.000 It just drops inside grounds it. 264 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:19.720 Yeah. So now I've got a signal coming in and 265 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.600 now i can just see. It's a very simple, easy 266 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:24.840 to read VW. What does it do when we start 267 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.360 getting in the clipping zone? Is it light up red? Check, check, check, 268 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.200 goes to yellow, goes to yellow, goes to red or 269 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:36.720 amber or whatever. So simple, simple view meter, nothing fancy 270 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:37.639 does the job. 271 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:41.480 One thing that's funny and it's subtle, but it has 272 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.279 a slant on the face of it. I was really 273 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:47.600 surprised with this EVO. It's just a block. It's a block, Yeah, 274 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:50.519 and it doesn't sit on the It doesn't like. It's 275 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.159 kind of funny how a little tiny angle can make 276 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:54.639 a big difference ergonomically. 277 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.919 Well, the EVO is basically it got a digital encoder, 278 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:02.559 a couple of buttons, and a couple it's chunky. It 279 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:06.360 could be half as thick. Yeah, it's you know, or 280 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:11.240 but it's slow slanned. It's in the back because it's 281 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:15.000 not nearly as deep, like it's very it's very skinny. 282 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:15.320 So it is. 283 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.360 It's I don't think that they've wasted any space in it, yes, 284 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:20.279 and I don't mind the interface at all, like. 285 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:22.480 You know, what button? What prep do you want to 286 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:25.679 It can easily run with one it's easy. 287 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.919 But it is just like an Apollo where it's one knob, 288 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.879 many jobs and you have to press the right button 289 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:34.679 before you turn the knob, and the buttons are all 290 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:40.639 labeled in graphics that hieroglyphics. Yeah, yeah, it's internationally. They 291 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:44.799 wanted to translate, so it has nothing written printed in English. 292 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.759 This product being created in Britain, of course, has a 293 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:51.320 lot of English language written on it. Yes, home as 294 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:54.279 you would imagine, but uh yeah, that is something that 295 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:57.960 so I think we're reading we've been there for a while, 296 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.519 but we're really just dividing line and devices, whether they're 297 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:07.399 kind of traditional old school analog with just all physical knobs, 298 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:10.159 pretty much an ANAMG device. 299 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:13.679 On all the way back to an M box exactly. 300 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.879 This is really just another M box from nineteen ninety 301 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:19.799 nine or whenever that came out, or ninety seven. That's 302 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:23.080 really all this is. It's just another new iteration of 303 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:28.440 an old school USB audio interface, full stop. It sounds good. 304 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.320 The preets are nice, they're clean as a really good 305 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:35.759 self noise rating. Henry Krause is that the guy's name 306 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:36.279 on YouTube? 307 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:37.480 Julian Julian. 308 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.360 Thank you. Julian Krause reviewed it. It's up there with 309 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:43.720 some of the best in terms of most of its specs, 310 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:47.600 so we know the quality is good. What else can 311 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:50.320 I say? It's just a simple device for people that 312 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:55.559 are simple minded, not dumb. Just don't think and get 313 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:59.919 into the one knob multiple jobs thing. If that thing 314 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.480 short circuits your brain like the EVO does. Hold the 315 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.519 EVA up for a second. Actually, Romo, Robert, So if 316 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.079 you look at the EVO, it's a very elegant design 317 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:12.000 with one knob in this I mean, we. 318 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:12.920 Can we can go through it. 319 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:15.400 So like the EVO right here, If you want to 320 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:17.880 control the first mic preamp, you push this button. Then 321 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.319 you have the gain, second mic and the phantom for 322 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:22.720 the first part amp. And then if you want to 323 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.000 control the second preamp, press the button for the second 324 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.240 PREMP and then you have your phantom and your gain. 325 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:29.759 And if you want your headphone volume, you press the 326 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:32.240 headphone button and then you have your gain. Or if 327 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:34.400 you want to control your blend the SSL does not 328 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:36.880 have this, then you press that button and you have 329 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:38.720 your so you always have to say what do I 330 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:40.680 want to do and then turn the knob for it. 331 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:42.279 But and has auto gain. 332 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:45.519 This does have auto gain to it, Yes it does. 333 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.480 That. You cannot do auto gain with a mag with 334 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.759 a log right, and that's another still to be I 335 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.759 think still remaining to be seen thing is is whether 336 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:59.720 voice actors should use autogain or not. I mean it basically, 337 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:02.599 it's not AGC. It's not like the old classic video 338 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:07.920 camera auto leveler. It just auditions your voice for twenty seconds, 339 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:10.680 ten seconds maybe, and then at the end of that 340 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.920 period it decides it's okay, this is as loud as 341 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:15.599 they're going to get. I'm going to drop it. By 342 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.440 twelve dB usually gives it. I think the ones I've 343 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.359 tried to give you a twelve dB headroom and then 344 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:22.319 off you go. 345 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.000 And then leave it alone, and you leave it alone. 346 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:28.359 If you push belonge beyond that game, you will still clip. 347 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:31.599 Now Scarlet takes it to another level and adds what's 348 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:36.000 called their safety. I think it's called there's another button safe. 349 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:39.359 Maybe you've got one, I think, Robert, I think there's 350 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:40.279 an says safe. 351 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:43.920 And so this is this is a Scarlet, the fourth 352 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:49.119 gen and the buttons we have one second, I can't 353 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:49.920 see very well. 354 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:53.240 We're all on the same page there, but I mean 355 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:54.119 they couldn't black. 356 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:59.000 It's as hard to so select forty eight instrument auto 357 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:00.200 safe and. 358 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:07.640 The sorry I'm that old too, Yeah, I'm sorry for 359 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:08.640 your eyes. My eyes are. 360 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:12.079 Perfect, turning the light on his phone to see the 361 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:15.440 writing because I can see. 362 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:16.599 But it's just like the light. 363 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:20.599 This is better for folks with less than optimal eyesight. 364 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:25.799 It is say that if that's your category, the scarlet 365 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:27.400 is not a good choice. But yes, it does have 366 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:30.359 a safe button, and the safe button is a clip 367 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:34.039 protect thing. So even if you don't use or do 368 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.680 use the auto level the safe mode is a clip protector, 369 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:40.759 and what that does is that when you cross threshold 370 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:44.960 of clipping, it drops the game and it stays there. 371 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:46.440 It doesn't push up. 372 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:49.519 You know who has who has really cool tych in 373 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:53.400 this area was originally Aphex, who is now gobbled up 374 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.960 by Road, But they had a mic limb circuit and 375 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:02.240 and it would actually on the input that was going in, 376 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:05.759 it would very quickly change the gain of the pre 377 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:08.279 amp based it was. It was actually turning it down. 378 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:11.359 It's a very interesting one to look at. It's kind 379 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.240 of too bad that Road hasn't It's funny Road bought 380 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:16.759 Aphex and when like, oh we'll take Big. 381 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:20.480 Bottom and yeah whatever, and they just like. 382 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:23.519 Yeah, kind of just stripped it for as we hear 383 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:28.160 a lot in the business, stripped for parts. Yeah, striped like. 384 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.680 The oral exciter in Big Bottom, and they like, that's 385 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:32.960 not even their coolest stuff. 386 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:36.119 So now I'm recording in twisted Wave with this little 387 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:40.200 tiny lavalier Mike uh running into the ss L one. 388 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:44.599 There's your level coming in, blah blah blah. And I 389 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:46.559 don't even know if i'd need to bother playing it back. 390 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:51.759 But the idea on sour what source elements recorder. Yeah, 391 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:55.160 I mean sources recorder. It runs on Chrome or Safari. 392 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.400 It's agnostics, so you can use it on a mobile device. 393 00:20:57.519 --> 00:20:57.880 Is that right? 394 00:20:58.039 --> 00:20:58.680 Right, you can. 395 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:01.240 I haven't tried that yet. 396 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:03.920 I'm pretty sure. We're pretty sure it's ready for the 397 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.200 mobile devices'. 398 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:08.000 It's pretty new. 399 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:11.480 Try it doesn't work, he's Roberts email address. 400 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:15.039 Yes, here's my home address. 401 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:20.720