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<v Speaker 1>Hello, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, not much.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's another beautiful day here on Turf Island and.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, yeah, that's what's up.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you you know about the same another beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>day here? And uh, I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you call it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, yeah, we got we've got a snappy name, at

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<v Speaker 3>least for our our particular bigotries.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, hey, ho, what can you say?

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<v Speaker 3>It's beautiful? It's beautiful over here. Yeah, like yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like I was texting you about this all last week.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>The highs are high and the lows are low. We

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<v Speaker 3>had a good Seann Freud a high the other week,

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<v Speaker 3>which was very funny. So our Chancellor Rachel Reeves, So

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<v Speaker 3>she is responsible for saying I'm afraid we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>have to like starve every poor person in the UK

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<v Speaker 3>because the line is sad, right, Like that's that's her job.

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<v Speaker 3>And she is notable because so she's the first woman

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<v Speaker 3>to ever run the Exchequer or whatever. And when she

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<v Speaker 3>was like gearing up, her big move was to like

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<v Speaker 3>write a history of women in economics.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it like immediately came out that.

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<v Speaker 3>She plagiarized a lot of it from Wikipedia, and everyone

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<v Speaker 3>was like I'm sure it'll be fine, right, And like

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<v Speaker 3>her big deal is like I'm tougher than the Tories,

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<v Speaker 3>like what I do, Like I just do evil things

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<v Speaker 3>even more than the Tories, which for some reason we're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to like, so it's like she's doing she's doing

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like turbo austerity again, like in the hopes

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<v Speaker 3>that it will make the line happy, which it won't

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<v Speaker 3>because it doesn't. But so anyway, like all sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>bad stuff has been happening, like and one of the

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<v Speaker 3>big things they were going to do was like cut

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of benefits to people with disabilities, and finally

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<v Speaker 3>like five of the labor MP's were.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, wait a minute, this sounds evil, and like.

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<v Speaker 3>Rebelled and then there was like a so so as

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<v Speaker 3>a resultable as there was like you know, the Parliament

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<v Speaker 3>got together and Kara Star wars like saying a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of stupid shit, and people were asking questions and they

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<v Speaker 3>were like, well, Rachel Rrie's gonna have to go, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, well, I don't know, and she sat behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Him and starts crying.

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<v Speaker 3>And then like the way the Center responded, this is

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<v Speaker 3>if she was upset over an unrelated, different matter, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they all got like really mad at you online.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were like, oh, yo, I think it's funny

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<v Speaker 3>that this woman who's the architect of misery for so

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<v Speaker 3>many millions of us, is sad, they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>because you're sexist and you hate women. Like, she's just

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<v Speaker 3>doing a very hard job. So anyway, that was really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh, I can't hear you anymore. I've lost you.

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<v Speaker 4>I was muted there go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Though.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other hand, I like it's very hard working

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<v Speaker 3>down at the children's starving factory, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, yeah, you guys, I mean, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you guys got a new party. Who knows, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the efficacy of such things. Yeah, I mean, see if

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<v Speaker 1>mister Corbyn can keep from apologizing his way out of

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<v Speaker 1>the yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that's the way that this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to work, is that as Zara Sultana

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<v Speaker 3>is going to have.

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<v Speaker 2>To really be.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the face of it, because she's a bit more

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<v Speaker 3>good at attacking I would say, And you know, my

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<v Speaker 3>good friend JC, it's a lovely guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's the trouble, right, It's like he's just like

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<v Speaker 3>such a nice boy, and we actually need someone who

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<v Speaker 3>can break legs, which which he isn't you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's yeah, the classic put upon imperial core socialist.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's like.

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<v Speaker 1>He you know, he's a great heart and everything, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his first inclination seems to be to apologize

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of things. And you can't do that

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<v Speaker 1>in front of these people, No, no, at all. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't give them even like the slightest inch. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I hope, you know, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it works out whatever, you know, whatever's working over there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's nice that you guys can just have like

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<v Speaker 1>a new party pop up, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>There is also some hope in terms of like entryism

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<v Speaker 3>at the Green Party at the moment, because there's a guy,

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Polanski who is for the leadership of the Green Party,

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<v Speaker 3>which could in theory turn it into a leftist vehicle.

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<v Speaker 3>Because like the trouble is at the moment, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>real broad church and you've kind of got like Tories

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<v Speaker 3>who like the Newts in their stream on one hand,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, people who wish to bring about the

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<v Speaker 3>fall of capitalism, because ultimately, if we're going to save

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<v Speaker 3>the planet, that's what has to be done, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>so perhaps.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like one way of going in. So I've got some.

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<v Speaker 3>Friends who are doing that, who are like joining the

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<v Speaker 3>party in order to vote for him, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. I don't know what I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of like having a look at all sides,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, just like trying very hard not

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<v Speaker 3>to despair.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff's bad here, but it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels good to like maybe have options, even in

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<v Speaker 3>a limited sense, I guess, get it again.

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<v Speaker 1>God, Yet, you know, I don't want to burpen in

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<v Speaker 1>the mic and you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That, but I mean that's what the workers being professional.

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<v Speaker 2>He's being professional over here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, it's uh. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff right now is really uh and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really fucked up. But that's a technical term. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh. You know, it's the term of art.

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<v Speaker 4>It's real fucked up. Dog.

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<v Speaker 3>I've noticed I noted on related but not the same

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<v Speaker 3>news that Linda Why the hot Dog diva herself has

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<v Speaker 1>Where have where have you gone? Linda yeck are renewing?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a nation turns its only eyes to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Diva down?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Like I gotta say, it's very I I

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<v Speaker 3>find very funny to to like leave now. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's really funny where it's like it's basically like the

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<v Speaker 3>AI going full of Hitler is what did it?

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently? I mean, like do you think that's what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do you think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like I mean, like she was always just a

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<v Speaker 1>fig leaf there and like yeah do like no, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can like you can tell because like nobody even

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<v Speaker 1>the media didn't really treat her as like the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of the thing until like like they did for like

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<v Speaker 1>a few months and then they were like, okay, anyway

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<v Speaker 1>back to actually talking to Eline about this stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a fig leaf. I mean, so like

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<v Speaker 1>on the one hand, it's like I expected her to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, like that was an embarrassment, even

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<v Speaker 1>though they apparently have uh turned all that off due.

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<v Speaker 3>To yeah, we turned the back of Hitler off guys,

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<v Speaker 3>so don't worry to uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't worry about it due to I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>the threats of lawsuits and stuff like it was saying

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<v Speaker 1>like prescribed stuff in Turkey. Uh hell yeah, anti anti

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<v Speaker 1>Urdawan ship over there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just so like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's harding to kill the king of Thailand.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like it's like it's just one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where you look at it and you're like, man, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are fucking idiots, like like like, on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>it's horrifying to be led by such idiots. On the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, it's kind of like, I mean, if you guy,

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<v Speaker 1>if this is how you guys run everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Good, God like.

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<v Speaker 1>You got you guys. Like, I don't know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably a bad idea overall to implode the economy

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<v Speaker 1>while kicking a bunch of people off Medicaid and using

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<v Speaker 1>like a carrot and the stick approach to try and

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<v Speaker 1>like get them to like work awful jobs. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in medicaid can't even work because

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and it's just like you just you get,

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<v Speaker 1>you get all this stuff. But I mean, at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, like this structure is looking more rickety by

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<v Speaker 1>the day, and like it like I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going to happen, but like this cannot

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<v Speaker 1>continue for long. I mean it, frankly, just it can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Like things are grinding to a halt here and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the inertia of world capitalism can't sustain, can't pull it

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<v Speaker 1>along for there's too many there's too many contradictions now

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<v Speaker 1>and it's being pulled apart at the top and from below.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what it's going to look like

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<v Speaker 1>have any fucking clue. They don't. They don't tell me

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<v Speaker 1>anything at the at the big Illuminati world meetings, nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta work your way up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Hurtful stuff, hurtful stuff. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's uh, you want to talk about people doing

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about Slavs being Slovs.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>Like there are very few things that I like to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about more than that, So I'd say.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, yeah, it's so weird, little guys, weird little guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird little guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They're little because they're squatting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, folks, welcome back to We're Not So Different, a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about how we are all wearing our ceremonial adidious

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<v Speaker 1>track suits today and squatting. I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 1>stereotype still holds weight. If it doesn't, most of you

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<v Speaker 1>are old enough to get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Just go along.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm delighted to announce that it is still true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, good for them, good, good for the Slavs. Folks. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back in We are heading back to ye old Bohemia.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Eleanor is pumped. Bohemia mentioned vaguely, Central European,

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Europe and border lands mentioned. No questions, because we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get them. We'll get to them in the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. But folks, at the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>we promised to visit various places and times during the

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<v Speaker 1>medieval era that we haven't really focused on in the

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<v Speaker 4>This previously brought.

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<v Speaker 1>Us on a visit to Constantinople in the Eastern Roman Empire,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the seven hundred year long period of

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim rule on Alan deLuce and now it takes us

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<v Speaker 1>to Bohemian the Czech Lands. Now now, now, now, now,

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<v Speaker 1>miliic Kus and Jushka among you know, certainly millions of

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<v Speaker 1>of religious heterodoxy that would eventually birth the downfall of

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<v Speaker 1>Hussite Wars and then from the Third Disfinistration. Yep, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that leads me all struck, the enduring

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<v Speaker 1>region that in medieval times was composed of the western

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<v Speaker 1>of Greater Moravia and Czech Silesia, is a perfect example

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<v Speaker 1>of that, as it serves as something as a crossroads

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<v Speaker 1>of humanity and even our forebears, and really, who could

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<v Speaker 1>blame them. If the inviting hills and expansive valleys of

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<v Speaker 1>resource rich land nestled against picturesque mountains of Bohemia don't

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<v Speaker 1>appeal to you, then the vast plains of Western Europe

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<v Speaker 1>Ripe for farming, herding, and even more resource exploitation most

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<v Speaker 1>certainly will. And it's not just humans that have so

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<v Speaker 1>interest in the area, as tools dating back to eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand years ago have been discovered. Cave and Bruno

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<v Speaker 1>and since then we haven't stopped inhabiting or at least

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<v Speaker 1>passing through the region. Excavations in Bohemia have shown that

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<v Speaker 1>basically every major European archaeological culture, meaning groups who left

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<v Speaker 1>grouped together by broad commonalities and pottery or art styles,

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<v Speaker 1>from the Gravedians some twenty five thousand years ago with

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<v Speaker 1>their beautiful venus figurines, to the Linear pottery culture and

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<v Speaker 1>the funnel beakers in the Stone Age. Thereafter the courted

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<v Speaker 1>where people arrived, then the Boden, the bell beakers that

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<v Speaker 1>out the Bronze Age. In total, the grounds of Bohemia

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<v Speaker 1>are littered with the remnants of more than a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>separate pre Iron Age cultures, which is far were the

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<v Speaker 1>most places still the start of recorded history and antiquity

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<v Speaker 1>in the region didn't stop people from coming, as Celtic

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<v Speaker 1>tribes from Western Europe soon invaded. One such tribe, the

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<v Speaker 1>Boye boy I. Boy boy Ye, settled and eventually gave

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<v Speaker 1>soon chased away by the Germanic Marcomanni and Lombard peoples.

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<v Speaker 1>By the outset of the verse century BCE, the Romans

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<v Speaker 1>expanded north, but never conquered Bohemia or the Marcomanni despite

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<v Speaker 1>until at long last, the Slavs began their great migration

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<v Speaker 1>from the Eurasian step into Central and Western Europe. Though

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<v Speaker 1>the migration began earlier, the Slavs didn't target Bohemia for

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<v Speaker 1>permanent settlement until the late sixth century CE, when a

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<v Speaker 1>assimilated themselves with the remaining Celtic and Germanic peoples in Bohemia,

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<v Speaker 1>later the Western Slavic Peoples. Another Slavic group settled Great

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<v Speaker 1>Moravia to their west, and a beautiful friendship with form,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly over their mutual hatred of Germanic peoples and being

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<v Speaker 1>constantly confused for one another. But you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how that goes, Folks. Even this area, which was still

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<v Speaker 1>before the Middle Ages began. And that's where we pick

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<v Speaker 1>up our story as we look at Bohemia from the

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<v Speaker 1>six hundreds through the end of the Premislids Premaclea dynasty

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<v Speaker 1>in thirteen oh six. This episode was requested by our

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<v Speaker 1>patrons Arc Arcturus and Alas Sahir Alsa Heir. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of questions from Arc later, while Alsa here

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<v Speaker 1>was basically asking for a more deep dive into the

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<v Speaker 1>earlier era. So here you go, eleanor me think of Bohemia.

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<v Speaker 1>We typically think of the later medieval Bohemia with all

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<v Speaker 1>its pomp and luxury and political power. But what are

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<v Speaker 1>we missing when we fail to take these earlier years

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a really interesting place, is the thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>one of the big reasons that we tend to go

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like straight to the High Medieval period is

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<v Speaker 3>because it is so important and rich and interesting, and

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<v Speaker 2>On with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And also fundamentally, look, we we just didn't get literate,

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<v Speaker 3>okay until until the ninth century, we had other stuff

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<v Speaker 3>to do, okay, probably farming.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect perfect encapsulation of why like all the oh these

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<v Speaker 1>people are destined for great and blah blah blah, like

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<v Speaker 1>White Europe. It's like they didn't even learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't even learn how to write in Prague until

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<v Speaker 1>like the eight fifties. Like, y, it's okay, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tell you within five hundred years or like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most important political centers on the planet, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like right, you know, look what you can do if

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<v Speaker 1>you just happen to settled in a really resource rich

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<v Speaker 1>area and find yeah, silver and also well anyway, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that that is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. One of the things that is most important about

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<v Speaker 3>it is it's incredibly resourced rich, Like the living is

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<v Speaker 3>easy in Bohemia, that's the thing. Tons of fresh water,

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<v Speaker 3>really great woodlands, so that's important for stuff like heating

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<v Speaker 3>homes and things at the time, like right, for coppicing,

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly rich soil. And it is also in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of very very many trade routes, so you get a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of back and forth going in terms of people

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<v Speaker 3>need to come in and out of the area, and

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<v Speaker 3>when they do they spend money, right, So it is

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<v Speaker 3>a major east west trade route, it's a major north

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<v Speaker 3>south trade route, and so it's just incredibly rich in resources,

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<v Speaker 3>which is why we have so many varying civilizations who

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<v Speaker 3>lived there over time, you know. And like the first

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<v Speaker 3>thing I ever did when I moved to the Czech

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<v Speaker 3>Republic was lived in Moravia and did a Bronze Age

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<v Speaker 3>burial mound dig, which was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It was fucking hype, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that much.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like you can and you can go, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's just like, oh yeah, here's the like remnants of

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<v Speaker 3>the hilltowns from the Bronze Age, and here's all of

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<v Speaker 3>these burial mounds, and here's this and here's that, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is just this place where people always wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>live because it's just not hard to do so, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so as a result, I think it's really easy

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of discount it now because people don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to learn check fair enough, and also because like we

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<v Speaker 3>come into literacy a little bit later, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we were just too busy eating pigs presumably to to

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<v Speaker 3>learn how to write things down.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There are worse ways to live so yeah, what what

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<v Speaker 1>from this pre kingdom era still sticks around into the

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<v Speaker 1>modern and postmodern world today.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so the basic outlines of what will become the

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<v Speaker 3>Czech Republic are kind of in action and what you

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<v Speaker 3>can see from what we call Great Moravia, Great Moravia Balin.

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<v Speaker 3>We simply love to see Great Moravia. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a huge I'm a huge fan of my Moraverian brethren, Missen.

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<v Speaker 3>But basically we know that at some point in time

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<v Speaker 3>in the eight thirties or so, we have this empire kingdom.

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<v Speaker 2>It's difficult to know what to call it.

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<v Speaker 3>Great Moravia that is founded, and we don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>big it was, weirdly, because you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people who like write a lot of different things.

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<v Speaker 3>But we've got this guy a Moynier, the first of

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<v Speaker 3>Moravia right now. He does a bunch of conquering and

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<v Speaker 3>either like he's within the kind of traditional boundaries of Moravia,

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<v Speaker 3>which is kind of like from the Morava River over

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<v Speaker 3>towards like outside of the Elba basin zone, but it

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<v Speaker 3>might have gone down as far as Serbia. It certainly

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<v Speaker 3>took in a lot of the Hungarian plains. It definitely

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<v Speaker 3>covered Bohemia and up into parts of Poland. Like it was,

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<v Speaker 3>it was huge, right, and they're doing incredibly well for themselves, right.

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<v Speaker 3>They managed to link up a lot of desperate peoples

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<v Speaker 3>and they've got they got themselves with a nice little

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<v Speaker 3>kingdom going. And so basically then you hit in the

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<v Speaker 3>eight forty six, the Prince of Russi'slav comes to the throne.

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<v Speaker 3>Russislav also one of my favorite names of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>Name your pets, Russislav. Why wouldn't you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>And basically he is like, you know, I see what.

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<v Speaker 3>The krolin Jeans are doing over there, We're doing a

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<v Speaker 3>similar thing over here. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>he thinks that he wants to do, because he keeps

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<v Speaker 3>getting in all of these like battles with the Frankians,

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<v Speaker 3>like because that's rather the thing as he's like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that we're gonna have to like Christianize, We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to get booked to the fuck up

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<v Speaker 3>because we can't be we can't be dealing with these

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<v Speaker 3>Frankish people.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing that he kind of does is he writes down

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<v Speaker 3>to Rome and says, hey, could can he spare any

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<v Speaker 3>any like priests to come to teach us how to read,

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<v Speaker 3>and Rome is like, now, which is very funny, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and also like this is a this is a real

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<v Speaker 3>story like about how you know, when everyone is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the medieval church so powerful and rich and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like it's the middle of the ninth century

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<v Speaker 3>and they can't even like see the utility of like

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<v Speaker 3>christianizing this huge block of land or then they're like no,

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<v Speaker 3>we absolutely, we absolutely cannot do that. And so they say, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well fuck you then and they write down to Constantinople

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<v Speaker 3>and say, hi, interested in christianizing, Got any priests, got

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<v Speaker 3>any anyone who can like teach us how to write?

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<v Speaker 3>And Constantinople says, yeah, apps of fucking lutely uh, And

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<v Speaker 3>that's when your boys Cyril and Methodius show up. So

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<v Speaker 3>Cyril and Methodius show up. They teach everybody how to

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<v Speaker 3>read old Church Slavonic. They're using the Galgolitic alphabet at

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<v Speaker 3>this point in time, and it will eventually turn into

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<v Speaker 3>some lock. They christianize everyone up, and as a part

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<v Speaker 3>of this, Bohemia gets christianized up. So this is all

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<v Speaker 3>very well and cool, but we you know, then Moravia

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<v Speaker 3>basically just kind of falls apart, and it's because it's huge.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't actually really know why we don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know as much about Great Moravia as we

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<v Speaker 3>would like to do, basically because they get.

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<v Speaker 1>you know existed, people write about it. It had a name,

420
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>like it was talked about, you know, the all all

421
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:22.279
<v Speaker 1>this sort of stuff, but like where, how long.

422
00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>What they were doing existed, what they.

423
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Were doing, how they controlled like because if you look

424
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:30.359
<v Speaker 1>at it like just a map, it's like it's a

425
00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 1>huge territory, but like there's no way they directly controlled

426
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>all of that. So like you know, what kind of

427
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>successor state thing did they what did they have going on?

428
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:44.240
<v Speaker 4>Like what what is that?

429
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:48.599
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, info and it's like it's one of these

430
00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:51.079
<v Speaker 3>things where you can really understand why people used to

431
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:53.839
<v Speaker 3>call the Early Middle Ages the Dark Ages, because literally,

432
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:54.880
<v Speaker 3>what the fuck is going on?

433
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Guys, like we don't have the sources, we don't know.

434
00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:59.319
<v Speaker 3>It's just kind of it is a in honest to

435
00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:02.480
<v Speaker 3>god lakut, right, and we can't we can't see it there.

436
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 1>So and if you if you talk to a regular

437
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>person and you tell them this, like it's somebody like

438
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody like just just like a normal person, like maybe

439
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:12.759
<v Speaker 1>they have a slight interest in history or something, maybe

440
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>they don't whatever, Like you tell them this, You're like,

441
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.400
<v Speaker 1>this is great. Moravia. It was a thing. It literally is.

442
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:25.039
<v Speaker 1>U is a direct line predecessor to Bohemia and Prague

443
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and the Hossites and the Thirty Years. It's a direct

444
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>predecessor to all of that stuff. However, we don't know

445
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:36.519
<v Speaker 1>how long it existed. We don't know if everyone within

446
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>this boundary considered themselves to be part of it. We

447
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:42.079
<v Speaker 1>don't know how they interacted. We don't know the exact

448
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:46.880
<v Speaker 1>contours of it, and we don't even like have names

449
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>for all the rulers that are supposedly took Like it's

450
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it's nope, you're just you're just like you get why

451
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>people are just like, Okay, dark ages, I got it,

452
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, that's fucking stupid.

453
00:26:57.880 --> 00:26:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and it's stuff.

454
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:04.400
<v Speaker 3>It's definitely just kind of shows that you're dealing with

455
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.960
<v Speaker 3>the civilization that just doesn't have the same priorities that

456
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:07.200
<v Speaker 3>we have.

457
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and.

458
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's confusing and weird, right, it's so like,

459
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.039
<v Speaker 3>I totally get it, and it's it's a shame because

460
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 3>I would really like to know more about Great Moravia.

461
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.400
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm hardly alone in that, but yeah, there

462
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:27.039
<v Speaker 3>there are these massive limitations based on sources, and indeed

463
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 3>they the same thing is true of Bohemia before the

464
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 3>ninth century. Like we just you know, we know that

465
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.119
<v Speaker 3>they're lumped in with Great Moravia. We know they christianize

466
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 3>as a result of it, we know when people come

467
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.119
<v Speaker 3>through and you know, the generalized population changes, but we

468
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 3>don't know a whole lot more than that. To be honest,

469
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.799
<v Speaker 3>it's all archaeological. It's not it's not historical.

470
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:52.440
<v Speaker 2>It's the point.

471
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very it's a very interesting place because in

472
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:58.079
<v Speaker 1>five hundred years they do go from a place where

473
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 1>we're like, okay, we have like we're piecing archaeological pieces

474
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>of pottery together and going, okay, so yeah, people were

475
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>definitely here in eight hundred CE, but what were they doing? Eh?

476
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:10.279
<v Speaker 4>How do they live?

477
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Eh? And and then like in five hundred years it's

478
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>fucking prague, Like it's you know, birthing.

479
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 4>Fucking the fucking Reformation.

480
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Any Yeah, yeah, yeah, before we before we go any

481
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>deeper into it. I have an unironic question that's going

482
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>to sound mean when I say it eleanor.

483
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.000
<v Speaker 4>What is the slav exactly?

484
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Like what It's a word that gets thrown around nowadays,

485
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>euphemistically and otherwise. But like when we talk.

486
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 4>About it here, who are the chicks?

487
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Who are the Western Slavic peoples?

488
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, look, we're alcohol fueled fuck machines, thank you.

489
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 1>I really I was like, I was like, I think

490
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>she's making a joke. I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna give

491
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it a respect laughs.

492
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so this is an annoying thing, right, so

493
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:10.240
<v Speaker 3>that we what we definitely know about the Slavic people

494
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 3>is we can't we we don't come off the.

495
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Step all right, like we were we were.

496
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 3>We were on the step, we were hanging out, speaking

497
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 3>varying Slavic languages and eventually duriling the migration period we

498
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 3>were came off the step and we moved in uh

499
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>west into Europe. So checks more particularly as you mentioned,

500
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 3>we are West Slavs uh so uh the we also

501
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:44.119
<v Speaker 3>the Slovax of which I am also one the polls

502
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 3>people like the Salesians who it's like God bless them,

503
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.480
<v Speaker 3>like they're just always getting lumped in with someone you know,

504
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:54.000
<v Speaker 3>like that that that's us, right, and we more particularly

505
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 3>speak a version of Slavic languages that you know, we

506
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 3>don't use alphabet for example, we use the Latin alphabet.

507
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 3>And we were under Roman Catholicism, so you know, we

508
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 3>we don't really like you know, the East Slavs they

509
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:12.119
<v Speaker 3>went Orthodox.

510
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 2>We didn't, a bit of a shame, but you know,

511
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:15.119
<v Speaker 2>there it is.

512
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 3>And so a good way of kind of thinking about

513
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 3>the West Slavs is we're the beer Slavs, right, and yeah, yeah, yeah,

514
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 3>we're like the beer and wine Slavs. And then like

515
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:32.440
<v Speaker 3>the South Slavs are like they're they're like wine and

516
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 3>yogurt Slavs.

517
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Uh So like okay, okay, So like if I'm looking

518
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:42.319
<v Speaker 1>at a chart, like you're all initially wine Slavs, Yeah,

519
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you're all initially wine Slavs, and then when you move

520
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 1>further into Central Europe it breaks out you both retained

521
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.119
<v Speaker 1>the wine aspect.

522
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 4>Of it, yes, but yeah they but.

523
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:56.559
<v Speaker 1>The Southern ones take the Greek yogurt aspect of yes,

524
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and you guys took the Germanic beer aspect of it.

525
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And look at that the melting the melting pot of humanity.

526
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>You think I probably sound like I'm joking, but I'm

527
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>really not like it, Like it's yeah, it's gorgeous, Like

528
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 1>you can you can track you can track that in

529
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 1>the movement of humans. And like, I mean, Greeks still

530
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of yogurt past ship today they're so

531
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>famous for beer, Like, yeah, it's.

532
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.559
<v Speaker 3>Crazy what Bulgarians are doing things with yogurt that'll blow

533
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 3>your mind, which is incredible. But you know, and then

534
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 3>you've also got your like and then you've got like

535
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 3>your vodka Slavs, you know, who are more who are

536
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 3>more Eastern? We do, Look, we all do be distilling fruits.

537
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 1>If you can't, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna sit

538
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>here and besmirch the rich culture of people who look

539
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.319
<v Speaker 1>at fruit and go. But what if what if when

540
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 1>I drink it my eyes crossed?

541
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 3>It's so important, right, it's so important, right, So yeah,

542
00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.960
<v Speaker 3>like basically we are we're just kind of like a

543
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.720
<v Speaker 3>group that made it further west. There are like some

544
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.039
<v Speaker 3>varying things that we know from architecture. Like for example,

545
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 3>before we Christianized, our temples used to be.

546
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>A little bit more like.

547
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 3>Long and like Eastern saws oftentimes were more round. But

548
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, like no one knows shit, Like we don't

549
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.039
<v Speaker 3>know anything, right, So but anyway, like we showed up

550
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 3>and we threw down in the area, and like that's

551
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:32.680
<v Speaker 3>what it is. So it's basically step people's who europeanized.

552
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's it, you know, which.

553
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 3>But I guess we end up being kind of like

554
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 3>contingently white, you know, depending Oh.

555
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys, you guys took contingent white status after

556
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>after nineteen ninety one, when you were no longer a

557
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>part of the Great State, the Great Satan e that's right, yeah, yeah,

558
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and you took contingent white status and you were like, okay, cool,

559
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>So like that means we get to participate in all

560
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. And it's like, well, kind, but we're still

561
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna call you evil mongol hordes when we need someone.

562
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:06.119
<v Speaker 1>You're like, god damn it.

563
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like, do not we reserve the right to

564
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 3>sexualize all the women, Okay.

565
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Cool, cool, cool cool?

566
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Great?

567
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Speaking of incredibly non consensual processes, christianization of yeah,

568
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Eleanor mentioned it a little so by the eight fifties

569
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 1>eight sixties, the Church was like, hey, uh, what if

570
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>we all those people in like northern central eastern Europe,

571
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>what if we went and talked to them and uh

572
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>tactfully And by tactfully I mean by force asked them

573
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>to convert and lo and behold that happened so eleanor

574
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>just before this. Uh, since the Czech lands fall outside

575
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 1>of the Roman Empire, uh and we're later invaded by

576
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the Slavic peoples of the step it was decidedly pagan

577
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>before this. Huh.

578
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like what we don't exactly fucking know what

579
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 3>that means though, right, So, like they were definitely doing

580
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 3>so they were up to something, right, Uh.

581
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.000
<v Speaker 2>We figure that it might have.

582
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 3>Might look something a little like what they ended up

583
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.440
<v Speaker 3>having going on like up for example, in the Baltic

584
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.119
<v Speaker 3>States later, which is kind of like the most we

585
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.280
<v Speaker 3>know about any of the pre Christian relators. So I

586
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know, maybe we were worshiping snakes or some shit.

587
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure, Like like I don't know. So, like

588
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 3>we definitely know that they have that they are building

589
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 3>like sanctuaries, you know. They we are building these kind

590
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.639
<v Speaker 3>of like long buildings where we're like, oh, yeah, that's

591
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 3>that's like a sanctuary.

592
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Where we do religious stuff in there. What are we

593
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:03.559
<v Speaker 2>doing in there? I don't know, right, like.

594
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you don't have writing. It's really hard to

595
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>say like exactly what people are doing because like for

596
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:15.079
<v Speaker 1>a long time with archaeology, it was like anything you

597
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't understand or anything that was like vaguely centralized that

598
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>had like a temple type feature, you're like, oh, this

599
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 1>is a religious display, and it's like, well, I mean,

600
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:26.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it is for some things, but there were

601
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in the world whose religions were

602
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 1>like out in the trees and you know, yeah, yeah,

603
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, you know, is that is that a

604
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>religious institution or a temple or is that just some

605
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>building may have where they chated you know what.

606
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it's very difficult to tell because like when

607
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 3>anything gets written about it, it's usually written from antagonistic

608
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 3>sources like the church, and then they're like, oh, they're

609
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 3>killing babies in there, and they are pagans, and it's like,

610
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 3>what the fuck's a pagan?

611
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, like who knows? And it's like a likely

612
00:35:58.280 --> 00:35:59.159
<v Speaker 2>if you look at.

613
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 3>For example, what's going on up in the Baltic region,

614
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 3>once again. You know, they're all like, this forest is sacred,

615
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>we like all the animals in it. You can't go

616
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 3>hunting here. We got a big fire. You like that fire,

617
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 3>big fire.

618
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>You know.

619
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:11.559
<v Speaker 2>It's like that's that's what their religion is.

620
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 3>So it's difficult to say because nobody wrote it down,

621
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.199
<v Speaker 3>and people start writing down things when they're like, we're

622
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:21.199
<v Speaker 3>all Christian, right, yeah, yeah, that's right, you know. And

623
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:25.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, obviously with any Christianization story, it starts with

624
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.199
<v Speaker 3>the elites, and the elites are the ones writing things down,

625
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 3>so we only really know from their perspective. And then also,

626
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, you get for example, we'll talk about people

627
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 3>who are still pagan in air quotes and it'll be like, uh,

628
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:45.119
<v Speaker 3>wenches Sla, Saint Wencheslaus's mom draw home Era is still.

629
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<v Speaker 2>An evil Pagan and then like, you know, does evil things.

630
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<v Speaker 3>Right, so you have to be like these bad people

631
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<v Speaker 3>or his brother boy Slaus the cruel is a Pagan

632
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 3>and that's why he's so bad, blah blah blah.

633
00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:01.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, yeah. The it's funny because all of

634
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 1>this centers on Moravia, which is to the west and

635
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:11.159
<v Speaker 1>south of what we typically think of as Bohemia. But yeah,

636
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:17.679
<v Speaker 1>when they christianized the area, they specifically were trying to

637
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Christianize Moravia, and getting Bohemia was just like a nice

638
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>little treat on the side. Eleanor mentioned the brother saints

639
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Cyril and Methodius who showed up in eight sixty three,

640
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they're considered you know, the I don't know,

641
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess the founding saints.

642
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 4>Of the area or whatever.

643
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.559
<v Speaker 1>There were churches there, yeah before that, a few you know,

644
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty or forty years before that, So it wasn't a

645
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Christianization even though it officially started in like the eight sixties,

646
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was happening beforehand in fits and starts, but you know

647
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, absolutely, yeah. And that brings us to our

648
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>first question of the show from Arcturists about Great Moravia,

649
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>which we've been discussing here as much as we can

650
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and a very important historical invention known as the Old

651
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Church Slavonic language. So, yeah, Eleanor, what is Old Church

652
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Slavonic and why is it so important?

653
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

654
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 3>So it is really great and useful because it's sort

655
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 3>of like Latin for Orthodox people, right, like, yeah, in

656
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, if you consider the way that Latin functions

657
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:34.719
<v Speaker 3>in the medieval period, like not not in the Roman period,

658
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:39.480
<v Speaker 3>in the medieval period, and it functions as this form

659
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.360
<v Speaker 3>of like legalese and way of writing back and forth.

660
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 2>That's what Old Church Slavonic is doing.

661
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.639
<v Speaker 3>So basically Cyril and Methodius invent it because they're like, okay, well,

662
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.719
<v Speaker 3>all of these guys are they're speaking various Slavic languages,

663
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 3>and what you can kind of do is like squint

664
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.679
<v Speaker 3>your ears and like if you just were like, how

665
00:38:59.679 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 3>about that?

666
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Does it sound like words? What do you think you know?

667
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Because we have a lot of overlap in a lot

668
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:08.159
<v Speaker 3>of our languages, so that things are really similar, right.

669
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:14.039
<v Speaker 3>And then this also means that they're kind of using

670
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.559
<v Speaker 3>these kind of like Galgolitic and then siru like letters

671
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 3>for it. And this sticks around for really quite some time.

672
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:25.360
<v Speaker 3>So my good friend doctor Claire Griffin, who is a Russianist,

673
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 3>she's got excellent Old Church Slavonic because she works on

674
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 3>like early modern and late medieval Muscovie and you still

675
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:35.840
<v Speaker 3>need it, right, So it really really sticks around in

676
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 3>the East. But because of the way things work out

677
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 3>in the Czech Lands and us kind of like coming

678
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 3>under the sphere of influence of the Holy Roman Empire

679
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 3>and things like that. Then we end up going with

680
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:52.280
<v Speaker 3>the Western ways of doing things, and so we kind

681
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 3>of abandoned it eventually. But the earliest records of Great

682
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:00.679
<v Speaker 3>Moravia are are all in Church Slavonic.

683
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yes, the modern cyrillic alphabet that

684
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:11.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, Russia and other countries still use is based

685
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>on Glagolithic.

686
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, it's just like.

687
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, they just showed up created this cool church

688
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>language in the eight sixties, and yeah, it's spread out

689
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 1>from there. It's I mean, yeah, it's it's the church

690
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>language for for the Orthodox, you know, in non uh

691
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, in non.

692
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.480
<v Speaker 4>Greek Orthodox places.

693
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:39.719
<v Speaker 6>It's.

694
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's just a big deal.

695
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:45.199
<v Speaker 3>And you know, maybe we should have stuck with it,

696
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 3>because my thing about calling it cyrillic, it's like cyrial

697
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:51.639
<v Speaker 3>and Methodius, they're like the delusion guitari of the early Church.

698
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 3>Like everyone always says delude a short term. No one's

699
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 3>ever talking about guitari, you know, everyone's always saying cyrillic.

700
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 3>No one's calling it cyril and Methodick. Yeah, where's my

701
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 3>method justice for methodius?

702
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, oh, just because the other guy's name

703
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:09.039
<v Speaker 1>comes first.

704
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:09.320
<v Speaker 4>To get it.

705
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 1>It's so not fair, not fair, not fair. Yeah, anyway,

706
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that's how modern. The modern cyrillic alphabet was invented by

707
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Greek guys going into the Slavic lands to forcibly christianize people.

708
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I love Eastern Europe. It's so so good, it's so good.

709
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

710
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>But here about here is when we have to say

711
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>goodbye to Great Moravia because a group called the Magyars

712
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>we know them now as the Hungarians, they came in

713
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and invaded, and uh, they wipe Greater Moravia, Great Moravia out,

714
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, ripped to this political entity of some

715
00:41:54.599 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 1>kind that existed. Probably thanks for all the memories. But yeah,

716
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:03.519
<v Speaker 1>and this is when the Bohemian lands they start to

717
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>instead of looking east to the Slavs and the Slavic

718
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>peoples or the Magyars, they are instead looking a bit

719
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to the west. And yeah, our arcturists ask us to

720
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 1>cover the Premislids, the Premislid dynasty in some people, in

721
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>some details. So here we go, eleanor who are the

722
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 1>premise Slids And how did they turn this from like

723
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:34.119
<v Speaker 1>a real super backwater in like the eight eighties into

724
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:38.199
<v Speaker 1>like an actual into a real duchy Soon.

725
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Enough Okay, so this dynasty features the sound that only

726
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 3>checks have. Okay, so are with a hat hot check

727
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 3>over it. The way to think about making the sound

728
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.559
<v Speaker 3>is it's like the z in azure, but you're rolling

729
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 3>your tongue.

730
00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 2>So they are the chemi slids.

731
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Premis shimmy slid.

732
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's good. Shimmy yeah, chemmy slid is like, that's

733
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:07.440
<v Speaker 3>good to say.

734
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Do not worry about it.

735
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I do not expect anyone to do it. Literally, this

736
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.480
<v Speaker 3>is our sound, thank you very much. It comes up

737
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 3>all the time, Like you know.

738
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 1>There weren't even my brain can't even form the like

739
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>there in my head. I can literally see the two

740
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 1>wires and they're sitting there and no electrons will fire

741
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>across them. They're like, no, it's we're.

742
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 3>Not Yeah, it's our our our brains are not wired

743
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 3>as English speakers to hit the role on that one.

744
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Uh does it?

745
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Does? It almost come out as like a ship like him?

746
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 2>It's like sh yeah.

747
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 3>Like so if you if you just don't, like, if

748
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to do the rolling, no one's gonna

749
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.360
<v Speaker 3>be mad at you. But so I just hit with

750
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 3>the ship, like just just think of it like a

751
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:59.239
<v Speaker 3>dizy and azure yes, so so yeah, the chemmy Slids, Uh,

752
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:04.360
<v Speaker 3>the fir chevy Slid was a plowman called Chemisil obviously.

753
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's where the paper. Yeah, like Emma, lady man.

754
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Medieval early medieval, like like early medieval state formation was

755
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:19.639
<v Speaker 1>so cool because you could just be like the like

756
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the wealthiest plowman of some tribe or whatever. Right, yep,

757
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm moving into Prague a castle like what now, like

758
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a center of culture and refinement. And in eight in

759
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>eight eighty it was like a rock and a couple

760
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of steaks hill, it's some hill jack Central European farmer

761
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm I'm the king of this hill and.

762
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Like, okay, look, I'm gonna be real with you.

763
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.719
<v Speaker 3>This story comes to us from our good friend Cosmus

764
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.000
<v Speaker 3>of Prague. And Cosmos of Prague he wrote the chronicle

765
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:55.199
<v Speaker 3>Boe Morum in the twelfth century, which is an excellent

766
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.760
<v Speaker 3>source which I used a lot of. Shout out to

767
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:01.199
<v Speaker 3>Cosmis of Prague and his stories. So you got chevy

768
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Sel the plowmen, right, and Chevysil is out one day

769
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:10.519
<v Speaker 3>he's you know, looking yoked a ship. He's shirtless, he's

770
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 3>glistening in the sun. And who should come along but

771
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 3>a fairy named Lebusha. Okay obviously, and Lebusa is like,

772
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 3>gotta get me some of that can't wait to get plowed,

773
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 3>et cetera.

774
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:26.559
<v Speaker 2>And so.

775
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 3>They get together and they form like basically a dynasty.

776
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 3>And then we have a number of after these people,

777
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:43.199
<v Speaker 3>like the seven mythical Bohemian Princess. Okay, so you got

778
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:48.719
<v Speaker 3>chevy sil first, then you have his son Nezamisil them

779
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 3>not the Voyan, Nislav Scheesmo, Misil, Neklon and Holstevite. Okay,

780
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.639
<v Speaker 3>like so Cosmis lets us know that all these guys,

781
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:00.960
<v Speaker 3>it's just.

782
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Sure they're all definitely really great.

783
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah right.

784
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 3>So basically what we do know is that these are

785
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:15.079
<v Speaker 3>people who get really rich farming in the area around Prague.

786
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>And the area around.

787
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Prague is good because it is pretty easily defensible because

788
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:24.119
<v Speaker 3>of the Watava River and everything. The Franks do come

789
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:25.679
<v Speaker 3>over here and fuck with you a little bit, but

790
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:27.880
<v Speaker 3>it's it's easier because of the hills and the river

791
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.239
<v Speaker 3>situation to kind of make a defensible play for it.

792
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.880
<v Speaker 3>So there are some people who were farming and living

793
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 3>in this area. The first actual previously that we know

794
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 3>about is bouchevoy the first, okay, and Bouchevoi.

795
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Bouchevoi is also like a fun thing, a fun.

796
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:49.800
<v Speaker 3>Name because like the way you say kind of like

797
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 3>my god and check is Bourgemoi. So Bouchevois he gets

798
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:01.519
<v Speaker 3>baptized in eight seventy four by specifically Methodius not cereal,

799
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:07.599
<v Speaker 3>so in your face cereal like Methodius gang. And like

800
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.960
<v Speaker 3>in this period, great Brabia.

801
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Kind of starts to fall apart.

802
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:14.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's the issues with the Huns is probably

803
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.079
<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest things, and it's a large group

804
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.559
<v Speaker 3>to try to keep together. So what ends up happening

805
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 3>is that the texts get their independence, like the Bohemians

806
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 3>get their independence right sometime in kind of like the

807
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 3>late ninth century. Okay, So there is a not very

808
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 3>cool interregnum around one thousand and three two thousand and

809
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 3>four where Bulletslaus of Poland takes over, but this is

810
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 3>thankfully short lived.

811
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:56.199
<v Speaker 2>But you know, the point is you got your Bougevoi, right,

812
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:59.400
<v Speaker 2>So you've got Bouchevoi, who is like nominantly pretty Christian.

813
00:47:59.400 --> 00:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Then you get.

814
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.360
<v Speaker 3>The first, Then you have Rothi, Slaus the first. Now

815
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:10.280
<v Speaker 3>ro Slas is important because his wife is Milla, and

816
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Milla shout out, that's my grandma's name. We love it,

817
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 3>shout out Milla Landmila christianizes and now, which is also

818
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 3>a funny thing to be talking about because Bouchevoy was Christianized.

819
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:25.000
<v Speaker 3>But the point is it takes a while to take

820
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:28.239
<v Speaker 3>it too, takes a couple of generations. Not everyone from

821
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 3>all of the noble families who are going to be

822
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.880
<v Speaker 3>marrying in are necessarily going to be Christianizing, but Limilla,

823
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Ludmilla does right.

824
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>And it was like you were talking about on that

825
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Chapo episode you and Derek were on when you were like, oh,

826
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>we're we're going to do this ironically. Oh yeah, I'm

827
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:48.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be Christian And then it's like, oh wait,

828
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah this literally yeah exactly.

829
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

830
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:57.239
<v Speaker 3>So actually, sorry I missed books. So Landnila mary s

831
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 3>who's boys son. Sorry, And then she has her son, Roislaus,

832
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:07.519
<v Speaker 3>now Rosislaus the first who is not Ludmilla's fucking son,

833
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 3>not not husband you sorry everybody, But so Rodislaus marries

834
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 3>this woman, Drajo Mira and is like drawn from one

835
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:20.840
<v Speaker 3>of the other noble families, and dra uh is an

836
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 3>evil pagan boo boo boo uh and dies kind of young,

837
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:32.519
<v Speaker 3>and Ventroslaus uh is is their son, So save VLAs

838
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.039
<v Speaker 3>you know Voxlav in Czech, you know him of the

839
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Christmas Carol.

840
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:36.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a.

841
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Steve, Yeah, exactly, that's it.

842
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.280
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, he was showing signs of being real Christian,

843
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.239
<v Speaker 3>and so Ludmilla is like, yeah, you come live with

844
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.440
<v Speaker 3>me and stay away from your like evil pagan mother.

845
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, we're gonna we're gonna christian you up, real good. Uh.

846
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 2>We are going to make like a ruling European a

847
00:49:59.159 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 2>leade of you.

848
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Uh. The legend is that Dravamira then like orders the

849
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.960
<v Speaker 3>death of Ludmilla and that like three nights go and

850
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 3>kill her, and like the idea being that like then

851
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.239
<v Speaker 3>she'll have control of ventus Laus and as he's the

852
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.880
<v Speaker 3>heir apparent, then she'll like control him or whatever. But

853
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:20.760
<v Speaker 3>because uness Slaus is so holy, doesn't pan out like that,

854
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:24.639
<v Speaker 3>Ludmilla becomes a saint because obviously she does, and then

855
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 3>you've got your ventus less So wenteess Laus is very holy,

856
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:32.639
<v Speaker 3>very pious, that's what his deal is. But he's also

857
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.679
<v Speaker 3>ruling at a point in time when the Franks are

858
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:39.719
<v Speaker 3>really like Holy Roman Empire, tonight, Hoily Roman Empire, Queen

859
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Hili Roman Empire, and he's like.

860
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Not really, hey, you know, And a thing I.

861
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Kind of consider at this point in time is where

862
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 3>we are considering the the Chevyslds at this point in

863
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 3>time like this is technically a dukedom because they've kind

864
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.639
<v Speaker 3>of like been dealing with the Franks by being like yeah, yeah,

865
00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm your vassal like whatever, you know.

866
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 2>And basically the hr.

867
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:07.679
<v Speaker 3>Wants to take over as is their wont Check's not

868
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 3>so into this, and so Ve just slus like it

869
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:14.840
<v Speaker 3>goes out and is supposed to be like fighting a

870
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:21.400
<v Speaker 3>battle against Henry the Fowler, Now get ready for some legends, okay.

871
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 2>So basically it's.

872
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Like, uh, they're like, no, get the fuck out of here,

873
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:28.840
<v Speaker 3>and then like wnce Slaus rides out in battle and says, hey,

874
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:33.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, let's not like kill everyone in our armies

875
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:34.239
<v Speaker 3>over the stupid thing.

876
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you and.

877
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Me just fight a duel and then whoever wins will

878
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 3>just be the winner. And then uh, the Emperor sees

879
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 3>angels behind Wenceslaus, it is.

880
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, shit, I shouldn't.

881
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh shoot it.

882
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh real though, And so basically he's like, Okay, you know,

883
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna keep things as they are, and like, uh,

884
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:59.920
<v Speaker 3>you know you you're just gonna be amalgamated more particular,

885
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:02.960
<v Speaker 3>but we're not going to like try to take you over.

886
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:05.639
<v Speaker 2>So yay, that's fantastic.

887
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 3>And then there's like a whole thing about him like

888
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 3>coming to a banquet late because he was up praying

889
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:12.480
<v Speaker 3>all night, and the same thing happens again, and that's

890
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.280
<v Speaker 3>how he gets the arm of Saint Vitas and starts

891
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.079
<v Speaker 3>the cathedral. It's it's whatever.

892
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, long story short.

893
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Was the arm like just an arm gifted to him? Corpore,

894
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Is that what we're talking about.

895
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:31.199
<v Speaker 3>So basically Henry the Fowler had this arm. Right, he's

896
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 3>got the arm you do, He's got the arm of

897
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Saint Vitas. And so basically, like there was a big

898
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 3>meeting of everyone in the lower Room and empire.

899
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:40.199
<v Speaker 2>They were supposed to be having a banquet.

900
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Wenches saus came late because he doesn't eat food and

901
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:46.559
<v Speaker 3>he was up all night praying. And then uh, once again,

902
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Henry the Fowler was like, you're a little bitch. And

903
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:50.880
<v Speaker 3>then it was like, oh shit, there's angels behind you.

904
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 3>And then he was like never mind, and actually you

905
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:57.199
<v Speaker 3>can have any treasure for my treasury you want, and

906
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Saint wentres Sauce is like, I'll have that arm, thank you.

907
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 2>And that's why want.

908
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 1>To I want to believe this story, I really do.

909
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:12.280
<v Speaker 1>And the angels appearing behind him is not the proper

910
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.679
<v Speaker 1>part I have trouble with. The part I have trouble

911
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.880
<v Speaker 1>with is that this guy just like had an arm

912
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:19.679
<v Speaker 1>sitting in like a.

913
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Glass uncommon loot you know.

914
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like you like you're pulling that out and

915
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.719
<v Speaker 1>you're like, how did this survive? How have you kept

916
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>this this song? Like regardless of who the hand actually

917
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 1>arm actually belonged to, like and that's just sitting my god.

918
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe dazzled it.

919
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 1>You know.

920
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.079
<v Speaker 2>You get those ones that they've like golded up and stuff.

921
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:48.559
<v Speaker 1>You don't know what an amazing people.

922
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:49.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not.

923
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not what an amazing people. It's like, yes, here

924
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>is my collection of oddities. Everybody has like a Ripley's

925
00:53:56.719 --> 00:54:00.320
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, you know, like yeah basic one

926
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 1>of those roadside attractions. It's like obviously fake stuff. But

927
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, Wow, a bigfoot and it's like fake

928
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.199
<v Speaker 1>doll hair glued onto a human foot or whatever.

929
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly exactly. You know it's like a shrunken head

930
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:16.760
<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

931
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, but you know.

932
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.639
<v Speaker 3>That's what the prog Cathedral is called Saint Vidas, Saint

933
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Ventis Lass and Saint Adilbert is because it got founded

934
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:29.360
<v Speaker 3>with like Saint Vitas's arm.

935
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 2>He's like not a particularly interesting.

936
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Saint, but so and it's like that's why I always

937
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.199
<v Speaker 3>just tend to call it the pro Cathedral, because it's

938
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:40.000
<v Speaker 3>like we don't need to be getting into like every

939
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:45.119
<v Speaker 3>single saint that it's consecrated to, right because like it

940
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 3>really it should just be Saint Frentis last, but that

941
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:50.199
<v Speaker 3>would be a great insult to him, right because he

942
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:54.239
<v Speaker 3>loves Saint Vidas and Adelbert got in there because basically

943
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:57.119
<v Speaker 3>he comes from like the other big dynasty other than

944
00:54:57.159 --> 00:54:58.679
<v Speaker 3>the Shemy Slids, and they were mad.

945
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:05.639
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Unfortunately, a good king

946
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Wincess Loss met his end prematurely as he was good King.

947
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Wen Wells got killed by his bier bro. Both lost

948
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the crewel, which is how you get that's how you

949
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>got the name of the cruel.

950
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna be stabbed me, bro, the guy who

951
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:25.599
<v Speaker 1>just got stabbed. You're not gonna commit re commit richicide,

952
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:25.920
<v Speaker 1>are you?

953
00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:30.599
<v Speaker 3>Bro? Yeah, it's like one hundred percent he committed regicide

954
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:33.679
<v Speaker 3>and like uh and and the thing that's funny about

955
00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 3>it is everyone's like, did you just kill your fucking brother?

956
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:38.760
<v Speaker 3>And he's like I sure did, and everyone's like hmm,

957
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:39.960
<v Speaker 3>how about that.

958
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:43.960
<v Speaker 6>It's just like and then like something the king Now,

959
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.679
<v Speaker 6>I guess it would just be fine with stuff like this,

960
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.679
<v Speaker 6>like you killed this like beloved like local figure.

961
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Your brother, and they're all just like, yeah, that's fine.

962
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:58.719
<v Speaker 1>And then like like ten fifteen years later, like they're like,

963
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:02.039
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna become part of the Holy ro Roman

964
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:06.199
<v Speaker 1>empar burn this ship to the fucking crap, and you're

965
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:10.039
<v Speaker 1>just like, I mean, fine, that's fine too, but like

966
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.679
<v Speaker 1>where was this when they killed your beloved Vincess Laus?

967
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah.

968
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.400
<v Speaker 3>And it's really funny because it's like he gets called

969
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:19.039
<v Speaker 3>bois Loss the Cruel because they're like this is so

970
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.400
<v Speaker 3>fucked up, man, Like this fucking sucks, and I's like

971
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.280
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna do anything about it? N no, Oh, And

972
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.239
<v Speaker 3>it's like that. But then his son, who is also

973
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 3>a Bolislaus, he gets really into the religious aspects of it,

974
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:35.400
<v Speaker 3>so he's voice lost the pious and uh so he

975
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of like really gets things rolling again.

976
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Then his son boys Loss the red Haired.

977
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Is the one who like loses the kingdom to the Poles,

978
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.920
<v Speaker 3>which isn't great, but we got it back pretty fast.

979
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.639
<v Speaker 3>So like Yaromir comes in and like takes care of it.

980
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 3>And then you just kind of like have you know,

981
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 3>a litany of of them basically up until the twelve

982
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 3>cents Tree, and like this is this is what's going on, right,

983
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:06.440
<v Speaker 3>It's just like Duke after Duke Chevy slid after shemy slid.

984
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Most of them are called ventous loss or odcar or

985
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.920
<v Speaker 3>like you know, spot the book Bourchevois. You know, it's

986
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.400
<v Speaker 3>like it's all you have the occasional Conrad in there,

987
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 3>which is always funny.

988
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, before we get before we get to

989
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the Kingdom of Bohemia and all that. In ten o two,

990
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the uh the Duchy of Bohemia, which was formed in

991
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:37.199
<v Speaker 1>like the late ninth century. It formerly became a part

992
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:41.519
<v Speaker 1>of the Holy Roman Empire and UH and people a

993
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:44.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of the people weren't weren't happy about.

994
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:48.599
<v Speaker 3>That noworth, Yeah, people don't fucking like that.

995
00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 2>People don't like to be amalgamated into empires.

996
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:55.880
<v Speaker 3>No, it turns out and so and also this is

997
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.239
<v Speaker 3>just like one other case of like the Germans pushing

998
00:57:58.320 --> 00:57:59.760
<v Speaker 3>us around, which were not big on.

999
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:02.079
<v Speaker 2>No, we don't love it.

1000
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:04.320
<v Speaker 3>So it's quite funny because like all the stories about

1001
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Saint Eve just less.

1002
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:06.320
<v Speaker 2>They kind of like show this.

1003
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Up where they're like, fucking these German guys came over

1004
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:11.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, you know, part of his mirror. Girls

1005
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:14.519
<v Speaker 3>are just kind of like keeping the Germans sufficiently in

1006
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Czech like just being like I am not gonna kill

1007
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:23.760
<v Speaker 3>everyone in the country over this, but also like could

1008
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:25.559
<v Speaker 3>you get out of my face sort of a deal.

1009
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:30.519
<v Speaker 3>And so like it's funny because it's it's political playmaking

1010
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:33.159
<v Speaker 3>back and forth that keeps them. I mean, it doesn't

1011
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:37.239
<v Speaker 3>keep them independent, but it keeps them. It gives them

1012
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more power right there. There are certain

1013
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.280
<v Speaker 3>things that will last for a really long time. Like

1014
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:46.480
<v Speaker 3>technically the Prague is under the auspices of minds, like

1015
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:50.440
<v Speaker 3>the cathedral my minds is like the where all the

1016
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.719
<v Speaker 3>big decisions get made, which is fucking bonkers.

1017
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh, they don't get to be a real boy for

1018
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:55.920
<v Speaker 1>a few more years.

1019
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, and it's it's it's one of these things

1020
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:04.239
<v Speaker 3>where the checks are happy that there is not that

1021
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:08.119
<v Speaker 3>much Holy Roman imperial control. And you know, it really

1022
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:09.679
<v Speaker 3>kind of shows up when if you just look at

1023
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:11.159
<v Speaker 3>the maps, so you know, like if you go and

1024
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:12.920
<v Speaker 3>you look at those fifteenth century maps and it's like

1025
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:15.480
<v Speaker 3>everything is carved out within twenty miles or so, Bohemia

1026
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:19.519
<v Speaker 3>is Bohemia, and it's like because we just do different

1027
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:24.039
<v Speaker 3>things over here, because that's that's not how it goes down, right,

1028
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Like not everybody gets to have like their little their

1029
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:32.480
<v Speaker 3>tiny little postage stamp of power, right, so it just, yeah,

1030
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 3>people really don't like it, and being the Duke of

1031
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 3>Bohemia as they are at this point in time comes

1032
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:41.000
<v Speaker 3>with a lot of attempting to balance that and just

1033
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:44.199
<v Speaker 3>trying to always play your cards right to keep as

1034
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:46.679
<v Speaker 3>much of your own power as you can.

1035
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's they got they got assimilated, and they weren't

1036
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>even like they weren't even special yet. Because like it's

1037
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:00.920
<v Speaker 1>one thing if you get brought in and you have

1038
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:07.159
<v Speaker 1>special powers and special rules and special everything, but you

1039
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:13.039
<v Speaker 1>don't and you just you're just you know, uh, you're

1040
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 1>just there. You're under the same dukes that you've the.

1041
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:18.119
<v Speaker 4>God damn it.

1042
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I don't understand.

1043
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand how I can read Japanese more easily

1044
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 1>than I. It doesn't matter anyway.

1045
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Uh, it's.

1046
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:37.559
<v Speaker 1>They just you got the same people. But you know,

1047
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:41.599
<v Speaker 1>you're fighting these kind of battles against the Holy Roman

1048
01:00:41.639 --> 01:00:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Emperors and you know, you don't you're not special yet.

1049
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 1>But like we have come a long way from like

1050
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:58.119
<v Speaker 1>we don't really know exactly what's happening before eight eighty

1051
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to now, like we're a duchy and we've you know,

1052
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:07.239
<v Speaker 1>we've fought back against the hr We didn't win, but

1053
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you know we maybe got a little uh you know,

1054
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:13.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe got a little respect, a little something like that,

1055
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:17.119
<v Speaker 1>like how how are we doing that? And you know, listeners,

1056
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:22.800
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind the silver minds that the Bohemia was

1057
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.679
<v Speaker 1>famed for. We're not discovered until around the year thirteen hundred,

1058
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:30.679
<v Speaker 1>So this is happening before they had like Kopious, the

1059
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:32.760
<v Speaker 1>biggest silver strike in Europe.

1060
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's absolutely true. So you know, one of

1061
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 3>the big things that is true though, is they're still

1062
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:45.400
<v Speaker 3>pretty rich. We definitely know, you know, because because there's

1063
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 3>such a huge crossroads. So for example, they have a

1064
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:51.480
<v Speaker 3>really large Jewish population, which means that like that opens

1065
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:55.719
<v Speaker 3>things up for banking. And we certainly know, at least

1066
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:59.000
<v Speaker 3>in the late tenth century that we see from travel

1067
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:03.480
<v Speaker 3>chronicles that talk about like, oh yeah, Prague is really rich.

1068
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Like this is one of the most important. There's a.

1069
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Travel chronicle from a Spanish Jewish person who comes across

1070
01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:16.239
<v Speaker 3>and he claims that Bohemia is the richest country and

1071
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Prague is the richest city north of the Alps, is

1072
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:23.719
<v Speaker 3>what he claims. So so there's like something going on

1073
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:25.960
<v Speaker 3>in there, just like in terms of like what trade is.

1074
01:02:26.559 --> 01:02:29.559
<v Speaker 3>The other thing that the Jimmy Slidz managed to do

1075
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:36.599
<v Speaker 3>really well is they do some pretty okay fighting for

1076
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:39.599
<v Speaker 3>the Holy Roman Empire. And in particular, this comes down

1077
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:42.920
<v Speaker 3>to the Battle of Lechfield, which happens in nine to

1078
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:43.599
<v Speaker 3>fifty five.

1079
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry, everybody, I had to look it up. I

1080
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:47.760
<v Speaker 2>did not remember. I was like, when the fuck did

1081
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the Battle of fuck Field takebak?

1082
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:55.719
<v Speaker 3>But basically, so this is this like here, you know,

1083
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:59.159
<v Speaker 3>the Magyars are once again like out of pocket and

1084
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 3>Boyslat the cruel goes out for Emperor out of the great,

1085
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:09.320
<v Speaker 3>and he does rather a lot of killing, and so

1086
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:15.719
<v Speaker 3>basically Auto as a sign of you know, yeah, you're

1087
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 3>doing great, sweetie gives him Moravia. So then Moravia becomes

1088
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 3>like guts underneath the tremy slids, and then that gives

1089
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:29.880
<v Speaker 3>them more power again as well, and then so that

1090
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:33.239
<v Speaker 3>means that it's like a richer and more powerful place.

1091
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 3>So basically they've got a lot of money and they're

1092
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.239
<v Speaker 3>good at fighting, which is kind of like the two

1093
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:41.119
<v Speaker 3>best things that you can be. And it's like and

1094
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:43.440
<v Speaker 3>they're doing enough for.

1095
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:45.360
<v Speaker 2>The Holy Roman Empire that they're like, do we really

1096
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:46.719
<v Speaker 2>want to get into it with these guys?

1097
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:48.639
<v Speaker 3>Like so, to a certain extent, the Franks are looking

1098
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:52.239
<v Speaker 3>at them as a useful buffer, right where it's nice

1099
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:54.599
<v Speaker 3>to have some non Germans in between you and the

1100
01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:58.159
<v Speaker 3>Magyars fundamentally, like it's nice to have some guys that

1101
01:03:58.199 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 3>you just don't have to give as much of a

1102
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:04.239
<v Speaker 3>fuck about and you can still take some taxes. But

1103
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:07.039
<v Speaker 3>if you're just thinking about them as a buffer, then

1104
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:09.199
<v Speaker 3>that that is kind of like what happens. And then

1105
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 3>when you know things like the Mongol invasions continue to happen,

1106
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 3>that they're more and more happy that these guys are

1107
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:16.760
<v Speaker 3>out there.

1108
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, that's the thing, you know. So you're you're

1109
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:27.239
<v Speaker 1>the duchy, You're under the you're chafing under the those

1110
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:31.000
<v Speaker 1>haughty dipshits and minds who think they're better than you.

1111
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:38.559
<v Speaker 1>But in twelve twelve, one auto car the first gets

1112
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:42.639
<v Speaker 1>the hereditary title of the King of Bohemia from Holy

1113
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Roman Emperor Frederick the Second. And now you get a kingdom.

1114
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Now you're the extra special boys. This is the only

1115
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:58.639
<v Speaker 1>kingdom in the Holy Roman Empire. This is a big deal.

1116
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of Dutch she's margraviates, principalities, free cities,

1117
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you name it. But there's only one kingdom and that

1118
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:10.880
<v Speaker 1>is Bohemia. So eleanor.

1119
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:12.760
<v Speaker 2>We're special?

1120
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:18.760
<v Speaker 1>What is what? What is it like?

1121
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:19.159
<v Speaker 4>What?

1122
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 1>What is what?

1123
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:21.760
<v Speaker 4>What? What?

1124
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Why is? Why is Bohemia special enough to be accorded

1125
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:31.559
<v Speaker 1>this honor? And what what kind of treatment did they

1126
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:32.599
<v Speaker 1>did they get from it?

1127
01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:33.800
<v Speaker 4>If if if anything?

1128
01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:38.440
<v Speaker 3>So basically, this had been kicking around as a bit

1129
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 3>of an honorific for a little while.

1130
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:42.559
<v Speaker 2>So Roislaus the.

1131
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Second in theory got called king by Henry the fourth first,

1132
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:52.159
<v Speaker 3>and basically that was again like duties in the line

1133
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:53.639
<v Speaker 3>of like being a.

1134
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Shield for Germans.

1135
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Right now, Frederick the second, you know, our second favorite,

1136
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:04.559
<v Speaker 3>the Holy Roman Emperor, he is embroiled in rather a

1137
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:08.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of intrigue, right, Like, he is constantly beefing with

1138
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:10.119
<v Speaker 3>the papacy here, always trying to make him go on

1139
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:13.239
<v Speaker 3>a crusade, which he doesn't want to do. He is

1140
01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:16.559
<v Speaker 3>trying to avoid being forced to go out and like

1141
01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:20.280
<v Speaker 3>fight Batu Khan. You know, he just wants to take

1142
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:24.079
<v Speaker 3>his fucking baths with his bitches and be left in peace.

1143
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Right And basically this was a way of kind of

1144
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:34.880
<v Speaker 3>like trying to he was able to sort of play

1145
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Frederick's desire to kind of get one up on Innocent

1146
01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:44.400
<v Speaker 3>the third, right, Like, basically this is kind of like

1147
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.079
<v Speaker 3>a way of getting around the weelfs and the ho

1148
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:49.880
<v Speaker 3>ins dolphins, right, like, who are beefing it out and

1149
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:53.239
<v Speaker 3>there's all this political intrigue going on. So Frederick the

1150
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:56.119
<v Speaker 3>second is like, all right, look, i am going to

1151
01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:58.280
<v Speaker 3>go ahead and I'm going to call these guys like

1152
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.920
<v Speaker 3>these are definitely these are definitely kings. Here's the Golden

1153
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Bull that puts this down. But Hem and Moravia are

1154
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:11.760
<v Speaker 3>like autonomous within the Holy Roman Empire, and what this

1155
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 3>does is it gains him an incredibly powerful friend. Yeah right,

1156
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:19.679
<v Speaker 3>so this is this is a one of the prince

1157
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:24.800
<v Speaker 3>imperial electors. And any time that you end up calling

1158
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:28.079
<v Speaker 3>a reichshag, then you, like the Boho means are gonna

1159
01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:30.519
<v Speaker 3>be like yep, wave it through whatever it fucking takes,

1160
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:35.559
<v Speaker 3>because they they want to maintain their soverenity and their

1161
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:37.079
<v Speaker 3>caeserenity over this area.

1162
01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:38.639
<v Speaker 2>So basically it's just a really good.

1163
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:43.079
<v Speaker 3>Bit of statescraft, both on Otocar's part and and on

1164
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:47.159
<v Speaker 3>Frederick's part, because they both realize what's going on like

1165
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:49.880
<v Speaker 3>the European scene, and they're like, okay, well this is

1166
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:51.159
<v Speaker 3>this is the best way to do these things. And

1167
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:53.559
<v Speaker 3>fundamentally Frederick doesn't give a fuck he wants to be

1168
01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:54.199
<v Speaker 3>in Sicily.

1169
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:59.079
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't. Yeah that doesn't okay, Yeah, now you have

1170
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.480
<v Speaker 1>your own you have your vote for Holy erman Ember.

1171
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:04.800
<v Speaker 1>There's still only seven of you that I have to

1172
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:06.320
<v Speaker 1>deal with. I'm going back.

1173
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:07.400
<v Speaker 4>To Italy alone.

1174
01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like, leave me alone. I do not want to

1175
01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:13.440
<v Speaker 3>come up there. I don't want to hear about it.

1176
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Not like European winters or European falls or European summers.

1177
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to be right here on yes, yeah, I'm

1178
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:21.239
<v Speaker 1>going to Bedean Coast.

1179
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 3>I am in Palermo eating lemons, you know. And so

1180
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:29.760
<v Speaker 3>it's it basically, it is just a way of making

1181
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:34.800
<v Speaker 3>friends and that works very successfully through him, basically because

1182
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:37.560
<v Speaker 3>after that auto cars like that's right, boss, you know,

1183
01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:43.000
<v Speaker 3>because why wouldn't you right, So basically he and also it.

1184
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that much of a change.

1185
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:49.960
<v Speaker 3>It's mostly just like codifying what had customarily been in

1186
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:52.680
<v Speaker 3>place for a couple of generations too, so he can't

1187
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:56.079
<v Speaker 3>Frederick also can't be accused of Korean favor.

1188
01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Right because he's like what you're already called it? What

1189
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:03.239
<v Speaker 2>this is? Where here? What it's It's it's quite funny,

1190
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:03.479
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1191
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Fun fact the title King of Bohemia lasted as first

1192
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.079
<v Speaker 1>a reel and then adjure title until the end of

1193
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.960
<v Speaker 1>World War One. That is hash sh it went on

1194
01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:19.319
<v Speaker 1>like it is just.

1195
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.319
<v Speaker 2>That's why we had to have World War One. Unfortunately,

1196
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:24.560
<v Speaker 2>it is it.

1197
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Is same, you know. Yeah, it's folks, Yeah, they they

1198
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:36.199
<v Speaker 1>they're they're coming up the late premishld's they they've they've

1199
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:39.520
<v Speaker 1>they've come up there. They're real, they're real big boys now,

1200
01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:45.079
<v Speaker 1>real regional players on the stage. As I said earlier,

1201
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:49.920
<v Speaker 1>around the year thirteen hundred, there were massive silver deposits

1202
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:56.520
<v Speaker 1>discovered in Kunta Horra, and uh yeah, that allowed the

1203
01:09:56.680 --> 01:10:02.560
<v Speaker 1>proge Grossian, their denomination currency at the time, to be

1204
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:08.399
<v Speaker 1>a really big part of not early monetization, but I

1205
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:13.880
<v Speaker 1>guess proto monetization of Europe that happened on very in

1206
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:18.520
<v Speaker 1>small scattered instances before fourteen ninety two.

1207
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1208
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it eventually ended up giving us the word

1209
01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:26.039
<v Speaker 3>for dollar, because there's also another denomination called the taller.

1210
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:31.039
<v Speaker 3>So that's a great that's a great check invention. So yeah,

1211
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:35.439
<v Speaker 3>it's like, uh, you know, these are mentally wealthy and

1212
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:41.119
<v Speaker 3>important people who play the system incredibly well.

1213
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:45.399
<v Speaker 1>Uh successfully defended against the Mongols, like the like the

1214
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:47.319
<v Speaker 1>literal like.

1215
01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Like natural Mongols. Yeah, the Mongol Mongols.

1216
01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:53.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's like whatever, everyone's like, damn, they're so unstoppable,

1217
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:55.000
<v Speaker 3>like checks are like what, like it's hard.

1218
01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're like, well I mean sure, like you know,

1219
01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:01.319
<v Speaker 1>well sure, maybe they got to raise all of Moravia

1220
01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and like Hungary is or wasteland and everything, but we're

1221
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:07.439
<v Speaker 1>just built different the Moai.

1222
01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like it's just yeah, k being like pissed off

1223
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:15.439
<v Speaker 3>that Frederic the Second will come up there, Frederic the

1224
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Second being like if I make you king?

1225
01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like I don't want to know, like

1226
01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you can have it. I don't care, just take it.

1227
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I do not want to leave the Mediterranean coast for

1228
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:33.680
<v Speaker 1>any goddamn reason. Yeah. Uh sorry. The Battle of Mohai

1229
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh it was a Mongol victory. Uh really shaped so

1230
01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:45.399
<v Speaker 1>much of the world and would have probably would have

1231
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:50.119
<v Speaker 1>been a much, much, much bigger deal had uh who

1232
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:51.560
<v Speaker 1>was it that died this time?

1233
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:52.720
<v Speaker 4>Was it Oka Day?

1234
01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Yeah, died and they had to ski daddle back

1235
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:02.800
<v Speaker 1>for a you know, a big, a big con meeting.

1236
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:03.800
<v Speaker 4>I forget what they're called.

1237
01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they had to go sit down and talk about

1238
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:10.359
<v Speaker 3>who was the bestest boy after that?

1239
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they Yeah, but you know, would the

1240
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Mongols have kept riding right on through had that not happened. Probably,

1241
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:23.159
<v Speaker 1>But that's not what happened. Uh, And the Czechs got

1242
01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:27.199
<v Speaker 1>to uh live to tell the tale and say, yeah,

1243
01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought the I fought the Mongols and there and

1244
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:32.560
<v Speaker 1>their relatives like oh yeah, well, who won, Like, that's

1245
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:33.279
<v Speaker 1>not important.

1246
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't see any Mongols here, do.

1247
01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I must have won, Like, well, what about

1248
01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the Battle of Mohai. Didn't you lose, like all of

1249
01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:43.199
<v Speaker 1>your shut up, shut up.

1250
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Well you know what else, I lost track of any

1251
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Mongols in the area because they're gone.

1252
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:54.479
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's yeah anyway, Eleanor you were saying they

1253
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:59.279
<v Speaker 1>were they were getting money. They had survived this, uh.

1254
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:00.560
<v Speaker 2>The money bitches.

1255
01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the horrors of the thirteenth the fourteenth century were

1256
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:05.439
<v Speaker 1>not upon them just yet.

1257
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:08.239
<v Speaker 3>No. And and one of the things that they managed

1258
01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:12.399
<v Speaker 3>to do with this is, yeah, you get your boys.

1259
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:16.640
<v Speaker 2>They're like beginning to eat up.

1260
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:20.720
<v Speaker 3>More territory in the area, especially Odakar the second, who

1261
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:22.760
<v Speaker 3>is like Odakar the First, the one who gets the

1262
01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Golden Bull's grandson. He is like, I've got Bohemia, I've

1263
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:32.560
<v Speaker 3>got Moravia, I've got Austria. He's like and like, basically,

1264
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.520
<v Speaker 3>at this point in time, the Bohemian lands make it

1265
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:37.279
<v Speaker 3>down to the Adriatic.

1266
01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is yeah, they have they have seaports in

1267
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the North Sea and the Adriatic. It is not a

1268
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:47.279
<v Speaker 1>small thing to be sneezed at.

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01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you know, and so this is kind of

1270
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:53.960
<v Speaker 3>like a late thirteenth century and they are just like

1271
01:13:54.119 --> 01:13:57.199
<v Speaker 3>incredibly wealthy and they've got all of this land. They

1272
01:13:57.239 --> 01:14:01.600
<v Speaker 3>do end up losing Austria unfortunately to the hated Hobsburgs.

1273
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:07.760
<v Speaker 3>But you know, it's it's very difficult to overstate how

1274
01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:11.119
<v Speaker 3>important this is and how incredibly fucking wealthy this makes.

1275
01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:15.079
<v Speaker 3>You Like this is the bread basket of Europe. You know,

1276
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.159
<v Speaker 3>you can just float down the Danube like and end

1277
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.560
<v Speaker 3>up in all of these places, you know, if you've

1278
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:22.680
<v Speaker 3>got your own seaports, so then you can just kind

1279
01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:25.359
<v Speaker 3>of move things up and down like with impunity. So

1280
01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:28.720
<v Speaker 3>they're just unimaginably wealthy.

1281
01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:30.159
<v Speaker 2>It is the basic thing.

1282
01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we didn't talk about it as much earlier, but

1283
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:37.640
<v Speaker 1>like you are in uh, the you're in a river

1284
01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:44.279
<v Speaker 1>basin for you know, the the Valdoslava, the Odor, the

1285
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the Elba, all that sort of stuff. You like, you

1286
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:52.199
<v Speaker 1>have all you have all of these rich riverine trade networks.

1287
01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You are the gate basically the gateway to like the

1288
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:57.800
<v Speaker 1>central part.

1289
01:14:57.640 --> 01:14:58.399
<v Speaker 4>Of the Alps.

1290
01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Even like we've talked about it for how the happen.

1291
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:04.960
<v Speaker 1>The real way the Habsburgs made their money at first was.

1292
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:06.680
<v Speaker 4>By being the.

1293
01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Gatekeepers along the Alps. You want to go farther into

1294
01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:12.000
<v Speaker 1>our beautiful majestic lands, you want to get down to Italy, Fine,

1295
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you got to come through here. And the the people

1296
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:19.720
<v Speaker 1>of Bohemia, the Czechs and the Slovaks, they were like, yeah,

1297
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:22.479
<v Speaker 1>we can do that too, and so they were able

1298
01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to charge for it. And it's you know, like you

1299
01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:29.079
<v Speaker 1>you have, as I said, even if people aren't stopping,

1300
01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:33.000
<v Speaker 1>even if they're like, oh, the beautiful land, the beautiful

1301
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:36.239
<v Speaker 1>foothills of the Alps, I could never stay here. Oh

1302
01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:40.560
<v Speaker 1>it's so hideous, my god, why would you ever say that?

1303
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:43.119
<v Speaker 1>But like, even if they did that, you can still

1304
01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:46.279
<v Speaker 1>tax them to like go on to uh, you know,

1305
01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:50.119
<v Speaker 1>northern Germany or the Dutch Lowlands or wherever the fuck

1306
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:56.000
<v Speaker 1>they're going. And yeah, you know, there's a whole fuckload

1307
01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of money to be made in that, especially with all

1308
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the fleeing from.

1309
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:04.079
<v Speaker 3>The Yeah, exactly, especially with all these motherfuckers being scared

1310
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:07.600
<v Speaker 3>of mongoles. Right, so you've got this huge chunk of

1311
01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:10.520
<v Speaker 3>land that you can you know, charge people to get through.

1312
01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:16.600
<v Speaker 3>You've got you are minting your own silver. You know,

1313
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:19.239
<v Speaker 3>you can bring things up through the Asriatics, so you

1314
01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:22.359
<v Speaker 3>can have anything you want, you know, essentially, and you know,

1315
01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:25.520
<v Speaker 3>so the living's pretty good, is the answer.

1316
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:26.479
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, you're right.

1317
01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:30.079
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's essentially a riverine culture, like the contours

1318
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:32.239
<v Speaker 3>of Bohemia are like it's essentially Bohemia is like the

1319
01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Elber River basin. Like if you look at it on

1320
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:35.960
<v Speaker 3>a map and you're like, it's that's sort of a

1321
01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.359
<v Speaker 3>weird shape, it's like, yeah, it's because of rivers. It's

1322
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:40.840
<v Speaker 3>like everything is like a river boundary or like you

1323
01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:43.279
<v Speaker 3>know that sort of thing, and it's very much like

1324
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:50.079
<v Speaker 3>defined by that fact. So that makes for excellent trade

1325
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:53.920
<v Speaker 3>networks and you can kind of move around really easily.

1326
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:58.079
<v Speaker 3>And it's just a huge chunk of land. For quite

1327
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.359
<v Speaker 3>some time, you know. Now when we say Bohemia, everyone

1328
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:02.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, just imagines the state in the Czech Republic,

1329
01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:05.079
<v Speaker 3>obviously because everybody knows what I'm talking about.

1330
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:09.079
<v Speaker 2>But you know, for quite some time, like that also.

1331
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Meant like parts of what is now Italy and Croatia, right, yeah.

1332
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was big land. But unfortunately all things, all

1333
01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>things do come to an end, and by the end

1334
01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:29.880
<v Speaker 1>of the thirteenth century, the Premislids were they were not

1335
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:30.640
<v Speaker 1>doing so well.

1336
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:35.399
<v Speaker 4>There was betrayals, child rulers.

1337
01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Regents who you know, weren't acting in good faith. It

1338
01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:41.479
<v Speaker 1>was you know, it was a shit show. So like

1339
01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:46.319
<v Speaker 1>how did they how did they end up falling? You know,

1340
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:48.520
<v Speaker 1>how did that? How did that go?

1341
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:51.760
<v Speaker 3>So the last tremi slid is a bunch of Saus

1342
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:54.600
<v Speaker 3>the third because we basically so we start over again

1343
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:57.600
<v Speaker 3>with our bunch of Sauses when they become kings. Yeah,

1344
01:17:57.640 --> 01:17:59.600
<v Speaker 3>so it was, you know, there there were many other

1345
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:01.640
<v Speaker 3>bunch slus just don't worry about it. But it's vent

1346
01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Slus the third. And he what was Charles the Force's granddad, uh,

1347
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:13.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, raised to like be a king, was gonna

1348
01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:19.319
<v Speaker 3>Mary Elizabeth of Hungary. Really smart decision making there, He's

1349
01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:21.920
<v Speaker 3>so that is like gives him the kingdom of Hungary

1350
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:23.199
<v Speaker 3>as well as Croatia.

1351
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Like hello, that not not bad, not.

1352
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Bad and so but unfortunately, like he ends up beefing

1353
01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:41.880
<v Speaker 3>with the polls about this, right, like basically, uh, the

1354
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Pope gets mad about it, like he says that actually

1355
01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:48.560
<v Speaker 3>venture Slaus isn't gonna be the king of Henry and

1356
01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Charles of Anjou is the the rightful king which like

1357
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:58.079
<v Speaker 3>a bitch, please, I cannot I cannot start with you

1358
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:00.800
<v Speaker 3>on this. So anyway, they have a war it right,

1359
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:02.680
<v Speaker 3>So what just last the second is like, Okay, we're

1360
01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:04.960
<v Speaker 3>gonna we're riding out at dawn.

1361
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:06.399
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna go do these things.

1362
01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:12.279
<v Speaker 3>And so basically like Morabia gets invaded by the Hungarians.

1363
01:19:12.279 --> 01:19:15.479
<v Speaker 3>They're like beven with the Poles and the Hungarians. Everyone

1364
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:22.079
<v Speaker 3>is fighting everyone. And then this at at this point

1365
01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:23.840
<v Speaker 3>in time when just lost the second dice, like he

1366
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:28.840
<v Speaker 3>dies trying to defend his son's claims and he basically

1367
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:29.439
<v Speaker 3>gets killed.

1368
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:32.039
<v Speaker 2>This leads what.

1369
01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Just lost the third as king at sixteen, and he

1370
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:43.359
<v Speaker 3>was a sixteen year old rich kid and he just

1371
01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:46.279
<v Speaker 3>spent all of his time getting drunk with his homies.

1372
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:51.920
<v Speaker 3>He would be all like hey bro, bro, bro, I

1373
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:54.800
<v Speaker 3>bet you, I bet you like this amount of land,

1374
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:58.800
<v Speaker 3>I can't like throw this pot over a roof, like

1375
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:01.520
<v Speaker 3>and then he would lose, and then like the nobleman

1376
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:02.640
<v Speaker 3>would like get the.

1377
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Land or whatever.

1378
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Like he's like not doing shit in terms of like

1379
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:11.960
<v Speaker 3>the claims within Poland. And so he's like, okay, well

1380
01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:15.920
<v Speaker 3>look I'm gonna give like goodanks to like this one guy.

1381
01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:17.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, like he's just like giving away like all

1382
01:20:17.560 --> 01:20:20.039
<v Speaker 3>these incredible lands. Like he's like, I'm giving goodanks to

1383
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:24.000
<v Speaker 3>my mate Valdemar, and then that's gonna like help how.

1384
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:25.399
<v Speaker 2>How's it gonna help that? Just us?

1385
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:29.720
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Eventually he's like, look, everyone's like, bro, Bro, they're

1386
01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:35.319
<v Speaker 3>disrespecting you in Poland, Bro, bro brouh. And so he's like, Okay, look,

1387
01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:38.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go invade Poland and I'm going to like

1388
01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:41.520
<v Speaker 3>leave my brother in law, Henry of Corinthia, who's definitely

1389
01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:46.560
<v Speaker 3>not scheming as government, like the governor, and he like

1390
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:51.000
<v Speaker 3>goes off and he's like, I'm I'm gonna go to Poland. Everybody,

1391
01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:54.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing it, and then he's like, ghost, I'm sorry.

1392
01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:57.359
<v Speaker 3>It's really funny because he sucks so much. So he's

1393
01:20:57.399 --> 01:21:00.439
<v Speaker 3>like going to Poland by way of all emotes were

1394
01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:04.560
<v Speaker 3>in Moravia for some reason, and he just gets stabbed

1395
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:05.640
<v Speaker 3>and ties.

1396
01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:08.520
<v Speaker 4>Whoops.

1397
01:21:08.920 --> 01:21:11.039
<v Speaker 3>So it's like basically he just sucked, like he just

1398
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:12.680
<v Speaker 3>like but this is exactly what you expect from a

1399
01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:15.439
<v Speaker 3>sixteen year old, right, like we like probably also famous

1400
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:16.600
<v Speaker 3>last words, what are you gonna do?

1401
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Stab me? Like they never found out who killed.

1402
01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Him and like everything was in just complete disarraye because

1403
01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:27.279
<v Speaker 3>he was sixteen, so we didn't even have any time

1404
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:28.319
<v Speaker 3>to knock anybody up.

1405
01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:32.239
<v Speaker 2>And this is what happens, guys.

1406
01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:34.199
<v Speaker 3>When you let a sixteen year old be in charge

1407
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:37.640
<v Speaker 3>of one of the most important kingdoms. And so then

1408
01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:39.920
<v Speaker 3>basically what ends up happening is there is like a

1409
01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:44.920
<v Speaker 3>big showdown between Henry of Corinthy and John of Luxembourg,

1410
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:50.640
<v Speaker 3>who are the sons in law of bunch of Slippers.

1411
01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:54.600
<v Speaker 3>So basically it's like the two surviving chemy slid princesses

1412
01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:57.920
<v Speaker 3>like their husbands battle it out and eventually John of

1413
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:01.319
<v Speaker 3>Luxembourg wins, right, So and that's how you get Charles

1414
01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:02.079
<v Speaker 3>the Fourth on.

1415
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:03.039
<v Speaker 2>The throne eventually.

1416
01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:05.439
<v Speaker 3>But see, this is the thing is that it's like, oh,

1417
01:22:05.479 --> 01:22:10.199
<v Speaker 3>it's such a shame that John of Luxembourg became king,

1418
01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:12.439
<v Speaker 3>and like, don't get me wrong, it is, but it's

1419
01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:14.359
<v Speaker 3>not like like Vegel sauce On the third was like

1420
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:16.920
<v Speaker 3>a good guy, like he's a fucking idiot.

1421
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:20.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like he was just like a.

1422
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:24.039
<v Speaker 3>Drunk, gambling sixteen year old who was like constantly giving

1423
01:22:24.119 --> 01:22:27.880
<v Speaker 3>away his lands and like you know, in theory, you

1424
01:22:27.880 --> 01:22:30.960
<v Speaker 3>would think that this story would lend would lead to

1425
01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:33.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, his death on the battlefield doing something stupid,

1426
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:35.319
<v Speaker 3>but that's not what happens.

1427
01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:38.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like just stabbed for being an idiot.

1428
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Presumably I got yeah, I got, I got stabbed. This sucks.

1429
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, that's it's such a funny. It's such a

1430
01:22:48.680 --> 01:22:50.560
<v Speaker 1>funny way for it to go down because like it

1431
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:54.920
<v Speaker 1>clearly like it was clearly just an issue where like

1432
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.159
<v Speaker 1>that family, that family Lime was like really struggling, like

1433
01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:00.479
<v Speaker 1>the mail end of that family, Lime is just having

1434
01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:05.319
<v Speaker 1>severe issues. And you came down to it because the

1435
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Luxembourg's John of Luxembourg is never there, never dives at

1436
01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:14.399
<v Speaker 1>the Battle of Kresty, at the Battle of Kressy in

1437
01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the Hundred Years War, being a moron. And but then

1438
01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Charles comes in and it's just like yep, this is cool.

1439
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Like here I am, I'm the House of Luxembourg, I'm

1440
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the big dog. I made Prague the most important city

1441
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:33.239
<v Speaker 1>in Europe at the time. Yeah, like you know, he

1442
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>just you know, it's amazing what you could do when

1443
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not being when you're not skimming the dregs of

1444
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:48.399
<v Speaker 1>in bred European fuck boys. Yeah, yeah, that's that is

1445
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:55.439
<v Speaker 1>old Bohemia, they got Kingdom, the Premishlids came to an end,

1446
01:23:55.840 --> 01:24:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah, within within what fifty years of this,

1447
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:05.760
<v Speaker 1>you get Yon Millic and then you know, within within

1448
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:09.239
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and thirty years, you get the Whosites. So

1449
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, anything as possible if you're ornery

1450
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>enough and you and you kick back against the whole

1451
01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Rouman Empire and the church hard enough, any any anything, you.

1452
01:24:22.079 --> 01:24:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Could do anything that's right, that's right.

1453
01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful it's a beautiful thing. Uh yeah, folks,

1454
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>thanks thanks for coming along with us on this voyage

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<v Speaker 1>of back to old Bohemia. That is going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it for us today. Next week, I am not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what we'll do, but we will be back. We'll definitely

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week with the third episode in our

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<v Speaker 1>series on season two of and or we'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>with that next Friday. Yeah hell yeah, yeah. That that's

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<v Speaker 1>about going to do it for us to day, eleanor

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote a blog everyone, please please pack so if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to check out going Hyphenmidieval dot com right about.

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<v Speaker 2>How crusaders are losers?

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<v Speaker 3>A time to think about that. They are there, right,

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<v Speaker 3>They are, so go check that one out. Otherwise, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was on Culture Power Politics with a friend of

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast, Jeremy Gilbert, talking about how techno feudalism is

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<v Speaker 3>a stupid term. If you want to go check out

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<v Speaker 3>Culture Power Politics. I think I've got to know God's

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<v Speaker 3>no marries coming up soon, but I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 3>that's oppened anyway, I'll let you you know, but you know, otherwise,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, your girls all the socials given it her

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<v Speaker 3>all at Going Medieval.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's what's up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, you can find me lucas amazing on the socials.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find the limited series that we did with

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<v Speaker 1>the American Prestige Boys at Welcome to the Crusades dot com. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ten dollars for the whole thing, eleven episodes.

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<v Speaker 4>Check it out. You'll really love it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that uh, that is going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>for us today. Thank you' all very much for listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>That was working.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it. It was fun, it was good.
