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And again, thank you so much for your support. So,

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Karen Bass, the Mayor of Los Angeles, the city not

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the county. Media is very intent on making sure we

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all know that, you know, the city of Los Angeles

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is not the County of Los Angeles, and that the

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protests were actually not widespread, didn't really affect a lot

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of people, much like you know, the towers that came

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down in New York on nine to eleven. It was

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just a very local area, didn't affect all New Yorkers

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like they weren't all prohibited from getting out of their

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buildings anyway. So this is a very important point the

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media is downplaying. But the mayor of Los Angeles, she

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came out and said it last night at a press conference,

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which is what I was saying yesterday. Now, I don't

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know if Mayor Bass listens to my program, I would

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guess no, but she might because this is what I

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was saying yesterday, and she now said last night.

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Speaker 3: We need to stop. The raids. Should not be happening

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in our city. It is not warranted, and it does

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the only thing it does is contribute to chaos. This

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was chaos that was started at Washington, DC on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: The city was peaceful on Friday.

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Speaker 3: It was not because of the intervention of the federal government.

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Speaker 1: So there you have it.

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Speaker 2: It's not the deployment of the National Guard. It's the

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ice raids. They're not even, by the way, ice raids. Yeah,

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spoiler alert, it was not an ice raiate that that

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started all of this. It was a cartel criminal investigation raid.

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They were going after cartels and fronts. It wasn't even

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a mass deportation kind of a you know, immigration raid.

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But there she is flat out saying that they the

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Trump administration is to blame for the riots because they

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are attempting to enforce the law. So any effort to

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enforce federal immigration law will prompt riots.

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Speaker 1: And it's your fault.

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Speaker 2: I said it yesterday and now the mayor came out

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and said it last night. I can't believe she said it.

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She really is, is that stupid? That's why I called

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her mayor dumb bass because she is Holy smokes. Now,

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credit where it is due. At least she was in

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her city this time that it burned, right, she was there,

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so at least there's that this was her was yesterday Monday,

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This would have been well, Saturday or Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it may have been Sunday night

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or Sunday.

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Speaker 4: This is intentional chaos, you know. I had talked to

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representatives of the Trump administration earlier on to tell them

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that the Los Angeles Police Department could control things that

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were happening here and that there was no need, no

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need to federalize troops, and so to have this here

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is really just a provocation and something that was not

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needed in our city. We're still recovering after five months

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from the city's worst natural disaster her in decades, and

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now to go through a trauma like this that is

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really traumatizing the whole city because everybody knows somebody in

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a city where more than fifty percent are Latino, this.

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Speaker 1: Just sows chaos that is.

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Speaker 4: Not warranted nor needed in the city of Los Angeles

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at this point in time.

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Speaker 2: All right, So that was when she was working off

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the talking point that the National Guard deployment was sowing

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the chaos, but last night it was stop the ice raids.

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And what she's saying there is that everybody is affected

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by this, not the riots, but the raids, the ice actions.

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I have said this many times about many different issues.

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I do have some sympathy for Democrats, because not leftists,

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no sympathy for them, but Democrats in that, in the

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rare instances where they have to try to defend their

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philosophy or their positions on things, and they're held to

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a consistent standard, they crumble. It's embarrassing. But here's why

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I'm sympathetic. It's because I would not be able to

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defend their positions. They're illogical, they're stupid positions, they make

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no sense. So I have some sympathy, Like, you're trying

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to fight the good fight to make these arguments, but

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you've become intellectually flabby because the media never challenges you

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on anything. So on the one hand, we're supposed to

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believe that the riots don't really matter because you know

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the media is blowing it all out of proportion and

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people are looking at their Twitter. That's what Brian Stelter,

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who's a potato on CNN, that's what he said that. See,

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it's all getting blown out of proportion because people keep

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seeing all these videos on social media and it's the

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algorithm and it's feeding everybody the information, and so they

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think it's way worse. And Los Angeles is a very

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big place, so it's not all over LA. But then

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the mayor is saying, well, but the ICE activity that

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affects everybody, so that is widespread. See so ICE doing

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a targeted operation against a cartel front business that affects everybody.

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But the riots where they burn and loot and attack

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police officers and shut down various parts of the city,

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that is a very localized, targeted, minimal impact kind.

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Speaker 1: Of an event, don't you see.

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Speaker 2: And what better way to express your pro immigrant position

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than to loot a sushi store, which is what they

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did yesterday. They looted a sushi restaurant owned by immigrants.

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Yes see, this is what I mean. There's no logic

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in their position. This also from last night's press conference

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by Mayor dum Bass.

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Speaker 3: The National Guard is guarding the Federal building. Now, there

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was an incident that I saw where there were vehicles

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that needed to get into the Federal building, and so

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the National Guard cleared the area and that's where I

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saw gas.

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Speaker 1: No, oh, wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: So the National Guard was providing security to the federal facilities,

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which is precisely what the Trump administration deployed the National

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Guard to do, because when they tried to call you

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and your law enforcement agency, you made them wait two

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hours while they were under siege, and so the Fed said,

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you know what, We're going to protect the ICE officials,

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the ICE agents, and the facilities. Bass claimed that the

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National Guard's deployment was not necessary, but Fox News reporter

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Bill Malugin shared videos showing ICE agents in one of

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the vehicles being struck by rocks. Malujin also posted additional

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footage of photos and photos of the aftermath, including an

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image of an ICE agent's injury and a windshield damaged

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by a rioter's rock around it. By the way, do

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you think that the rioters would not burn an ICE

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vehicle with the people in it?

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Speaker 1: Do you think they would stop? Why? In a riot?

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Speaker 2: It's a mob rule mentality right, and so what would

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be the limiting principle there? What is the guard rail

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in the mob When you're torching vehicles and you're throwing

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concrete bricks at people's heads. Why do you think that

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they would not if presented an opportunity, Why would they

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not torch an ice vehicle with the people inside of it?

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I think they would? I do I think they would.

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Around one thousand individuals wreaked havoc in Los Angeles Friday night,

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surrounding a federal build, attacking ice agents, deflating tires while

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they slashed the tires, and vandalizing government property. According to

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the Department of Homeland Security, the unrest caused significant damage

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and severe traffic disruptions, bringing several Key city roads to

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a complete standstill. On Saturday night, Trump authorized the deployment

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of the National Guard to assist local law enforcement and

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warren Democratic California Governor Gavin Newsom that the federal government

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would intervene if local authorities failed to restore order, and

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in response, California filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration. Yesterday.

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We're going to take a look at the lawsuit. What

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is the legal argument they are making? Does it pass muster?

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video dot com. I got a message. Here, here's an

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email from John. It's a peat mail and he says,

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how about we renamed the riots about j six Part two?

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La boogoloo? It did start on June six. I actually

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had this discussion with Brett Winterbal yesterday when I was

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leaving the studio and he was coming in to do

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his show, And like, we talked about branding this as

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J six, why not June sixth.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna conflate these two things, much like the left

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does with illegal and legal immigration, And so now J

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six includes all of this, why not?

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Speaker 1: Carol? Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 6: Hello Carol, Hey Pete, how are you today?

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good. What's up?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 6: So I'm face stars. All my friends, my liberal friends,

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are comparing these riots to January sixth. M So I

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response to them, it's been really because I don't remember

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any cards being burnt on January sixth. I don't remember

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hearing a woman on a video screaming my babies are

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in the car where they've watched her and beat on

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her car. It's just it's that apples to apples from here.

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Speaker 1: Well, so.

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Speaker 2: I would recommend that you are to shift the argument

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because you are arguing then from a defensive position based

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on their premise. I would challenge the premise, so say, well, okay,

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you think this is the same or not as bad

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as J six.

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Speaker 1: Well what was J six?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: It was a riot right that got out of control

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and it was destroying federal property, so you were against

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that right? They would say, yes, okay, well are you

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against this? Wouldn't you be against this for the very

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same reason. Wouldn't you be against this also because these

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are federal agents that are attempting to carry out the

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function of the federal government, which is immigration control, and

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these people are trying to obstruct that federal process, much

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like you say the Jay sixers were trying to obstruct

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that federal process. It's the same thing, then, right, you're

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saying it's the same thing. So shouldn't you be condemning this.

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Shouldn't you also be then advocating for like the FBI

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to start launching, you know, full investigations with facial recognition,

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go after these people for years, throw them in jail

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for years, Like do all of the same stuff, right,

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do you want the same kind of a thing, same

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Speaker 1: Approach, right right, I got, yeah, so make them defend

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their double standard.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, for sure. But of course it all

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comes down to, oh, well, you know it's Ice rad

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and I attached. There's a I think she's one of

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the sheriffs in the county, and she actually came out

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and said, hey, I'm so tired of the media saying

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what this is and it's not. It wasn't an Ice raid.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Why you said that before?

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Speaker 6: It wasn't it Ice. And honestly, he until I heard

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her say that, I did not know that because the

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media is blasting it out there as this Ice ray

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that we're going after these illegals and it's terrible, we're

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dragging them away from the kids and all this stuff.

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Where it comes out it was a criminal thing investigation

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going after these murderers, rapists, drug traffickers.

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Speaker 1: Probably, yeah, they were.

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Speaker 2: They hit front businesses for the cartels, that's what they

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were doing. And that's what people are now protesting against

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that that these criminal enterprises were were searched and raided

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and people were arrested.

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Speaker 6: Right now, here's the thing. And because I've seen my

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friends posts and stuff like that, and I grew up

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with these people I went to high school. I don't

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want to understnd them just because of this kind of thing.

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We don't get nasty with each other. But it's like

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it doesn't it doesn't matter what Trump does. It's still

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all Trumps fought correct.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: This was the and this is the clip that I

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played for Mayor Bess, which was that the the instigation

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was the ICE operation, right, and then when they failed

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to protect the ICE officials and their facilities, then Trump

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sends in the National Guard. And now that's the instigation,

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that's the offense. It's it doesn't matter, there's no there

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there's no guiding principle except whatever Trump is for, we're against.

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Speaker 1: That's it so exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Carol, I appreciate the call. Good to hear from you.

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It's a look, I understand what this is like when

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you're arguing with leftists. That's why I let them. I

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let them say as much as they want to say,

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and then I attack the assumptions. I attack their premises

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because their premises are always wrong. They always inject some

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sort of crap into the underlying assumption and try to

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force you to argue that. And if you say, whoa whoa, whoa.

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I'm not even going to get to your downstream argument.

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I'm going to go after the origin, right, the foundational

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premise of your argument, which is what in the comparison

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of J six? J six's the what's the argument there

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that one is okay and one is not?

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Speaker 1: Or is it that both bad?

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Speaker 2: So okay, I'll agree with you both are bad?

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Speaker 1: Now what does that mean for what's happening right now?

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Do you do you like?

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Speaker 2: Do you think the national Guard should have been called

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on the Trump supporters on J six? Why shouldn't the

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national Guard be called for this group on J six? Right,

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during the break, I see Donald Trump is now taking

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questions in the Oval office, So we're going to join

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this live. But during the break, he said he was

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asked about sending the National Guard to Los Angeles, and

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he said, look, I've been here before. We're not going

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to have the same thing that happened in twenty twenty.

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Would I would tell these governors as their cities were burning,

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we'll send you the National Guard. Let me call them in,

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and the governors would not do it. And he said,

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we're not going to go through that again. We're going

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to go faster. The governors do not want to stop

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the rioting for whatever reasons, he says, and I don't

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know what those reasons are, but we're not going to

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let it happen again.

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Speaker 7: By comparison, this morning, it's very calm. We'll see what

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happens later. But they know if they go there, they're

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not going to get anywhere because we have the.

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Speaker 5: National Guide that we backed it up with a number

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of Marincia.

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Speaker 7: Do you agree with on your obbits student signing legislation

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samanitate and commitments.

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Speaker 5: And school office? How did you do with what to.

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Speaker 7: Go to abbit it's going to file legislation samandatemanics in

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school costors.

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Speaker 5: I have to take a look at it. I'm gonna

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have to look at it well.

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Speaker 1: I did not hear with that question is definitely how.

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Speaker 5: Long will they be there until you think until there's

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no danger?

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Speaker 7: Whether it's easy. Look, it's common sense. You ask me

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that question when there's no danger they'll leave. You would

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have had a horrible situation had I not sent them,

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and horrible it'd be reporting on a lot of death

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and a lot of destructure that's not gonna take place.

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Speaker 5: I think if you look, every night, I got less

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and less.

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Speaker 7: They were met with very strong force to bad people,

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the bad sick people that do what they do. But

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these are paid people in many cases, not in all cases,

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but in many cases, and.

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Speaker 5: They really are there agitators.

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Speaker 8: I was wondering if you had any response to Mexican

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President Shinbaum, who condemn the viol theay you've been in.

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Speaker 5: Touch with her?

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Speaker 8: I said what I was wondering if you had any

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response to Mexican President Queen Shavahum said what she said,

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she condemned the violence in La.

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Speaker 5: Oh I do too. Have you been in touch with her?

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I don't all Well you think I don't condemn it.

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Speaker 7: I condemned the violence in La, ladies and gentlemen, but

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I also stopped the violence in La. And by doing

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what I did, I stopped the violence in La that

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would have been I think maybe.

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Speaker 5: I'd asked Christy to speak to that.

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Speaker 7: That would have been an unbelievable tragedy. We would be talking.

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I don't know that would even be here right now.

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It would have been so bad and probably maybe be

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out there. I don't know, but Christy, could you speak

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to that.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 9: So in twenty twenty, I was a governor of a

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neighboring state to Tim Wallas and watched him let his

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city burn. And the President and I've talked about this

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in the past, and he was not going to let

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that happen to another city and to another community where

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a bad governor made a bad decision. So Claudia Scheinbaum

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came out and encouraged more protests in LA and I

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condemned her for that. She should not be encouraging violent

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protests that are going on if people are allowed to

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peacefully protests. But the violence that we're seeing is not

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acceptable and it's not going to happen in America. This

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president is standing up for the average American who wants

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to walk their child to school every day, safely, run

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their small business, and provide for their families. That's the

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action that he's taken. He has every authority under the

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Constitution to send these National Guard under Title ten into

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these communities and make sure that operations go smoothly, that

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law enforcement officers are protected, that they can continue to

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go their work, to do their work without fear of

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being injured or killed or disrespected, and that they can

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go home to their families at night. So I'm incredibly

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proud of the President for activating the National Guard and

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for sending in these marines because these marines are specifically

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trained to meet the need that we have on the

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ground in LA right now. And Governor Inislom has done

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a disservice to the STATEUS of California for many years.

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The people there should never elect him into a leadership position. Ever, again, he's.

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Speaker 7: Closely in competent when it comes to his railroad that

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he's building, where it's like thirty times over budget. Nobody's

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ever seen anything like it. Now, it doesn't even go

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to the San Francisco in LA. It's way short of

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it after years of work and overruns like nobody's are.

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Those contractors are some of the wealthiest people in the world.

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I guarantee you that because that money goes to those contractors,

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they just they just did a number on the wallet

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of the people of California.

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Speaker 5: That train.

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Speaker 7: You should look at that train. That is the great

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I've never seen cost over runs. I've seen cost over

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runs and great incompetence of my life, I've never seen

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anything like that.

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Speaker 9: These protests obviously started in reaction to these large scale

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ice operations in Los Angeles. Should people expect to see

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similar operations in the rest of the.

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Speaker 5: Country and we'll similar protests. Yeah, we resisi.

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Speaker 7: You know, we're moving murderers out of our country that

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we're put here by Biden or the Autopen, the autop

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the people, whether it's Lisa Monaco or whoever operated the

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autopen these are criminals. The people are criminals that allowed

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these criminals into our country. And I don't think that

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Biden knew what the hell he was doing. I don't

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think he even knew about it. But when they opened

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up our borders for the whole world to come in, Yeah,

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we're going to get him out.

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Speaker 5: We're getting them out.

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Speaker 7: We're starting to get acknowledgment from the courts that you know,

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there is a system. They come in without courts and

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they go up there they want trials and everything else.

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I think that's starting to work out. Now, judges A

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is starting to see what a terrible situation. And as

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many of those people that you saw on television last

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night are criminals that were allowed into our country by Biden.

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Speaker 5: And they want to stay and we don't want them.

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Speaker 7: And they come from jails, and they come from mental institutions,

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and they come from all over the world, not.

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Speaker 5: Just South America, and we're not going to let them stay.

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Speaker 7: And this is the first, perhaps of many, or perhaps

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you know, if we didn't attack this one very.

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Speaker 5: Strongly, you'd have them all over the country.

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Speaker 7: But I can inform the rest of the country that

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when they do it, if they do it, they're going

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to be met with well or greater force than we

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met right here.

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Speaker 5: We did a great job.

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Speaker 7: The people you, Christy and Tom Holman and all of

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the people, Pete Hegsea, all of the people involved in

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an amazing job. We stopped a disaster, and it looks

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like a planned disaster, not just this didn't just happen.

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They had weapons, they had tools, they had everything you needed.

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I mean they were throwing iced water in bottles, in

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glass bottles at officers and at soldiers.

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Speaker 5: These are you could not use the word.

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Speaker 7: Insurrection, but you could also use the word these are

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very dangerous people.

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Speaker 5: They're bad people.

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Speaker 7: They were met with heavy force and they folded, and

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they may be there a little bit tonight. It may

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be there a little bit, but it seems to be

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getting less or less because they're going there and they're

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met with a very heavy force. And if they weren't,

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you would have that, say right now, would be on fire.

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It would be burning down the rest of it, what's

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left over.

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Speaker 5: Because the other fire was started because.

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Speaker 7: They wouldn't allow water into LA they wouldn't allow water

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into California, because they had it all shifted out to

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the Pacific Ocean. And I turned it around and I

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told him to do it in my first term, and

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they didn't do it.

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Speaker 5: We had COVID and they didn't do it, and I told.

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Speaker 7: Him to do it. We did it in the second.

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Now we have biindions of gallons of water flowing down.

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But do some should have done this? He's an incompetent

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man and an incompetent government.

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Speaker 5: Okay, any other questions?

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Speaker 2: All right, So that's President Trump obviously in the oval office,

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taking questions.

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Speaker 1: He's still going, all right, if you're listening to this show.

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Speaker 2: You know I try to keep up with all sorts

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of current events, and I know you do too. And

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you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources.

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Why Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which

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is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's

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an app, and it's a website, and it combines news

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from around the world in one place, so you can

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compare coverage and verify information.

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Speaker 1: You can check it out.

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Speaker 2: At check dot org, dot news, slash pete. I put

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the link in the podcast description too. I started using

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ground News a few months ago and more recently chose

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to work with them as an affiliate because it lets

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me see clearly how stories get covered and by whom.

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also supports ground News as they make the media landscape

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more transparent. Noah Rothman over at National Review. He points

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out what I pointed out yesterday that the media is

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focusing on, Oh, this is just one part of Los

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Angeles and LA is big everybody. Why should you care

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if your neighbors are in distress amid social unrest that

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spreads like a contagion.

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Speaker 1: No, you certainly should not.

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Speaker 2: Also, did we mentioned have you accounted for the fact

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that Donald Trump is president?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: There would have been no demonstrations at all if the

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Trump administration had not ordered immigration enforcement. Right, have you

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taken that into account? And don't you remember that Republicans

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also rioted that one time, like five years ago. And

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by the way, the reason why that was so bad

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is that Republicans don't riot if conservatives. If Republicans are rioting,

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something is very very wrong, right, because they are not

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the ones trying to tear stuff down all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's the left.

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Speaker 2: If you thought that was bad, it follows that you

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cannot find other episodes of violence street action similarly egregious.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: If you thought Jay six was bad, then you must

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be fine with this, especially if the violence is perpetrated

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by vandals who subscribed to the politics of the left.

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That's the kind of inconsistency that the left is arguing

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now this attitude is on full display right now with

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the La riots. He says, it amounts to a tacit

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admission that the Democrat Party in California and elsewhere understands

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the extent to which it has become associated with violent

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hooliganism of this sort. Progressive's own statements reflect their deserved

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insecurity and the extent to which they know that the

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rioters are their people. They know this, We know this.

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They know we know this. We know that they know

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we know this. Gavin Newsom said, don't give Donald Trump

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what he wants, not that rioting is bad just because

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you know rioting is bad. No, no, no, don't do

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this because it could hurt us. Senator Adam Schiff four

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brains plays directly into the hands of the he said,

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it plays directly into the hands of those who seek

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to antagonize and weaponize the situation for their own game.

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Don't let them succeed, right Noah Rothman points out the

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conceit in all of this is that the rioters can

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be reasoned with. Maybe they can be complemented and cajoled

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into abandoning their subversion. Perhaps if they are confronted with

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the potential for their activities to undermine the Democrat Party's

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political goals. Right, they might pacify themselves. Do these barbarians

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not read The Atlantic? The subtext is obvious, from the

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Democrat leadership down to the street thugs. We are all

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on the same side here, people. This is not helping us,

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So they don't want to condemn the rioters for rioting.

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The misconceptions fueling these appeals are illustrative of the problem

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that Democrats dare not acknowledge. They're right, of course, these

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are their people, but they should not be. They don't

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have to be. But the party has for too long

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seen expressions a violent political passion as a force to

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be co opted, to be harnessed and then wielded. They

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were open about the goals that informed this ill conceived project,

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and we all saw them pursue it. Even today, amid

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the ashes of the Harris campaigns attempt to incorporate anarchistic

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violence into her coalition. Democrats cannot bear to admit their error,

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much less correct for it. And then he says this

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later on, riots and criminal disorder erode faith in government,

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and accordingly the party of government, the Democrats, they too

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have faith eroded in them because they're the party of government.

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Violent social disorder is a contagion that will expand unless

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it is stopped. Stopping it requires the early, overwhelming intervention

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by law enforcement, the presence of which discourages would be

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participants from joining the melee. He's exactly right. That's what

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Trump just said in Trumpian fashion. But that's what Trump said.

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It would have been much worse. You have to meet

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this kind of violence with the threat of overwhelming violence

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itself against you. You may not like that. You may

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be a sheep in a world of wolves and sheep

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and sheep dogs, but that is true. When people are

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engaged in violence, usually the only thing that stops them

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from continuing is the perception or a threat of violence

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against them. Democrats don't have to sidle up subserviently alongside

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the president to display some fealty to these elementary propositions,

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but nor do they have to position themselves as hostile

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to the conditions that restore order once it has broken down.

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All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.