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Welcome in. 33 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: One of the best linebackers in BYU football history just 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,599 turned forty one years old. I can't believe it. He's 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,719 over the hump now and he's still Yeah. He's still fast, 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,760 he's still nimble, he's still quick, he still jumps out. 37 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: Of the gym. 38 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:42,719 Speaker 1: Let's welcome in, David Nixon, d Nicks, what's up, buddy, 39 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:44,719 Oh traddle man. 40 00:01:44,879 --> 00:01:46,599 Speaker 4: I know anytime I come on your show, you can 41 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,040 just lift my spirits. And this maybe still like I'm like, 42 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:51,200 I'm twenty years old again, So I appreciate it. 43 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: Clubhead speed of one hundred and thirty miles an hour 44 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:57,640 as well, it. 45 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,519 Speaker 4: Might have a lot of speed. I've got to get 46 00:01:59,519 --> 00:02:01,840 that boggle a little straighter these days. That's my problem. 47 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,079 But hey, the weather's glorious outside, so golf golf seasons here. 48 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,360 I love it. We're finally getting out and playing some golf. 49 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Heck yeah, dude, Well what is the clips head speed 50 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,680 at right now for the for d Nix? 51 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:15,159 Speaker 2: I mean it's still it's still up there. 52 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,039 Speaker 4: It's yeah. I mean, listen, just trying to keep the 53 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:20,039 back nimbles. What I'm trying to do, just not problem 54 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:23,080 back every time I swing. Okay, so lots of stretches 55 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:25,080 and just just stay nimble. That's my goal. 56 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: Stay nimble, stay quick and keep them keep them straight. 57 00:02:29,159 --> 00:02:32,719 Off the t David Nixon, d Nix, b YU heading 58 00:02:32,719 --> 00:02:34,039 to the NC Double A tournament. 59 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,039 Speaker 2: They're taking on Texas. It's the round of sixty four. 60 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Gonna be I think on TBS for all those that 61 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:43,719 want to watch, it's gonna be a great event. I 62 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:48,000 believe five twenty five tip off Brad Nessler whilely Zerbiak, 63 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,039 Jared Greenberg gonna be on the call. March madness has 64 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,240 arrived in the Cougars are seventeen and thirty five all 65 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:55,680 time in the NC Double A Tournament, including a five 66 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:57,080 or four record as a six seed. 67 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: That boes well. 68 00:02:57,759 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Right, They're making their third straight appearance the Big Dance, 69 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,240 which is BOWA is actually their longest streight since making 70 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,960 the tournament six straight seasons under Dave Rose from two 71 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,080 thousand and seven to twenty twelve. 72 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: What makes you optimistic that b Y's going to survive 73 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:14,560 in advance in twenty twenty six. 74 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,319 Speaker 4: You know, the last few weeks make me optimistic to 75 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,840 prior week before that that was not so optimistic because 76 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,840 I think everyone's kind of thinking, like, hey, let's just 77 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,039 get this season done with because this team just seemed 78 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:28,319 to be foundering and had lost his identity. I love 79 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,120 what Kevin Young did and he's missing this in the 80 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,520 media where he dumped down defense, kind of went back 81 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,800 to the basics and challenges guys to go fight an identity, right, 82 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:40,400 And I'd like in this to football, I look back 83 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:43,560 at our Bronco Men Hall defense days. We didn't run 84 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:47,240 the most extravagant defenses, right. It wasn't the most complicated defense, 85 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,919 but we knew what to do, and we knew what 86 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,000 where to be and knew we knew how to execute 87 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,560 the defense in mind, and I think there's something to 88 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,319 be said about simplicity and not trying to get too 89 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,360 much in the weeds. I mean, clearly, if you will 90 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:01,360 us about the ass leats on the basketball team, right 91 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:05,520 and now it's just getting to play proper defense and 92 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,039 execute the defense. And so I love what Kevin youngons 93 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,319 Doug had done. Like I said, he's simplified it. He's 94 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:13,879 allowed these guys to go out there and just be 95 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,960 athletes because as we know, I don't care if it's 96 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,680 football basketball and he's sport. When you're thinking too much 97 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:22,079 about what you're about to do, you play half the 98 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,720 second flower than you should. Right. But if you're cough 99 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:26,920 in your reads, if you're tough in your abilities, you're 100 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,600 tough in the scheme, you play exponentially faster. And I 101 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:34,560 think that's where this defense specifically for bou because offensive 102 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:36,720 day can score, but defensively they were given up ninety 103 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:39,079 nine one hundred points a game. Uh you know this 104 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:42,000 last at home stretch and and they finally found their 105 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,800 identy and realize they can go out there and compete 106 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,519 and execute and man, have some fun. He's lost, he's 107 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:49,720 this last little run. So I'm excited for this game. 108 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:52,199 I think you know, I watched the Texans game last night. Texas. 109 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,040 They're athletic obviously, right, and they're long. But I think 110 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,040 this bou team, the way they've been playing these last 111 00:04:58,079 --> 00:04:59,800 few weeks, I think the obviously got a real shot 112 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:00,680 out it. 113 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,199 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, it is a neutral site, but it seems 114 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,959 like it could be a home game, right with all 115 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:07,240 the BYU fans out there in the Portland area. 116 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: The northwest is uh is full of. 117 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: Latter Day Saints and Brigham Young University lums, so they 118 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,959 could make kind of a run. Last year they were 119 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:19,720 in Denver, it seemed like it was a hometown crowd 120 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:21,240 there as well. 121 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you you travel as well, especially for 122 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:26,040 the tournament, and the Heights has been around this team. 123 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Most likely last chances you'll get to watch aj debands 124 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,079 and play. I mean yeah, I uh. It wasn't for 125 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,959 the fact that Maury traveling this weekend, I probably would 126 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:36,160 have found a way to make it out there. But yeah, 127 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,800 it should be a really fun environment. I'm excited. I 128 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,279 think you know Texas they played in Ohio, have to 129 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,160 fly away across the country. They haven't had a chance 130 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:46,959 of scout buy uh, you know coming off you know, 131 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,879 short prep preparation. UU obviously probably did a scout for 132 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:53,399 both for Texas and at Paranci State, so they probably 133 00:05:53,399 --> 00:05:56,480 had that ready already. H So I like Uyu chanmceons 134 00:05:56,519 --> 00:05:59,199 of this game, but it was interesting. You know, the 135 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,560 Heck's coach is a Shawn Miller right for for Texas. 136 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:06,120 Yep I mentioned that it is nice to play in 137 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,040 these playing games because you kind of get the excitement out, 138 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:11,319 you get the jitters out in that first game, and 139 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,160 he thinks that that's going to play the advantage. I 140 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:15,759 would tend to somewhat agree. I think sometimes it is 141 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,680 nice to try to play in that first playing game 142 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,680 and just settle down and play from there. But I 143 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,199 feel like the Yu in this one obviously, I'm I'm excited. 144 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,360 I mean it's tomorrow, right, this is like Christmas Eve 145 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,480 for for basketball fans. We've got Barson Madis kicksoff tomorrow. 146 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,399 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, I'm intrigued by what's the ceiling? And uh 147 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,839 for this team, do you think looking at their path 148 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,680 and their bracket. 149 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: I thought that it was. I thought it was a 150 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,639 fortuitous bracket. 151 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: I really think there's a path for b Yu if 152 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:46,240 aj is getting calls, if he's getting whistles againting to 153 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:49,839 the line, I think anything is possible for b Yu 154 00:06:50,199 --> 00:06:51,199 manage basketball. 155 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,439 Speaker 2: What what what path? Do you see? What's the ceiling 156 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,000 for this team? 157 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,879 Speaker 4: I think some down those role players. I mean, he's 158 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,879 gonna get his right, but I think it comes down 159 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,639 to your Canard Davison and you know, can Robert Reich. 160 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,680 Can he get his I mean the supporting cast and 161 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,519 goud to their job. I mean, a J's gonna get 162 00:07:07,519 --> 00:07:09,959 twenty thirty every night, but can the other guys step 163 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,120 up and contribute? I think that's been the biggest thing too. 164 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,160 And just defensively, well we talked about already. But you know, 165 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:18,199 he can't be given up in then SA tournament. Can't 166 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:19,639 be get up eighty points and ninety points a game. 167 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:21,240 You're not gonna win a lot of ball games because 168 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,120 every team at this point obviously is a great team, 169 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,360 and they've had success and they know how to win, right. 170 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,120 So what I do like in Day's favor is the 171 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,199 Big twelve is just such a Gauntlet, and the fact 172 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,319 that you survived at Gauntlet and it was it was 173 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,319 weak in and week out. You're playing a top ten team, 174 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,439 it felt like. And so the fact that now you 175 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:42,519 go into this tournament and I don't think they're going 176 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,319 to see the type of caliber a big tole opponents 177 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:47,519 that they had to face here in this first couple 178 00:07:47,519 --> 00:07:50,639 of rounds against Texas and then you know, down the 179 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,360 road against Gonzaga. I mean, I don't know. I think 180 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:55,360 dou has a great shot. I think, like you said, 181 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,720 I think that the bracket itself fare as well. And 182 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,959 listen that they head to play Arizona. They've played there, 183 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,360 it's on really well this year. Even though Arizona's been phenomenal, 184 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,399 you know, they they played as on a pretty close 185 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,480 So I don't know, I like deuy chansons, this is 186 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,639 gonna be a fun, fun tournament. I you know, I've 187 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:12,160 had buddy that or what is the you know, what 188 00:08:12,319 --> 00:08:13,839 is the success? Like how would you how would you 189 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:17,879 measure built success in this tournament? I don't know. I 190 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,759 think it's Sweet sixteen. I'd be happy with the Sweet sixteen, right. 191 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like quota quota to me, what's quota? 192 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:23,759 Speaker 4: Right? 193 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,439 Speaker 1: So what's quota? What's overachieving? Would you say, right? Is 194 00:08:27,439 --> 00:08:30,279 it sweet sixteen? That's kind of the overachievement because of 195 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,440 the sixth season, any injuries or is quota? 196 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,039 Speaker 2: Is quota sweet sixteen? Right? 197 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:36,399 Speaker 1: Is it? 198 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:36,879 Speaker 3: You know? 199 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? I mean, yeah, where where's that at? 200 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: I would say making it to the second weekend? Making 201 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:45,240 it to the sweet sixteen. Listen, I'm a competitor. I 202 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,840 obviously want you to go to the final four, right, but 203 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:49,919 I think realistic. I mean, if you can make it 204 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,919 to the sweet sixteen, I think that's with with like 205 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,360 you said, with the injuries that have occurred, I think 206 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:56,120 that's a big win. I mean I don't want to 207 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,039 get too greedy here, but I think what you has 208 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,320 the pieces, even with rich He being out and traving 209 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,440 and the rest of the players, I think Deal he 210 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,559 has the pieces to make her run. I really do. 211 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:07,000 I mean, you're going to have a good team that 212 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,000 don't have a full scout on deo you like all 213 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,080 the Big twelve has and we don't have Deal. You 214 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:14,120 fared in the preseason when they're not playing Big twelve teams. Granted, yes, 215 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:15,840 very teams and of these other guys were still playing. 216 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:19,440 But I don't know. I think I think this time, 217 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,840 even after the Big twelve tournament wrapped up to now, 218 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,279 has helped. I think that Bills is some self scout. 219 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,879 I don't know. I'm optimistic. I'm just gonna be really 220 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:29,360 really intriguing. But hey, the guy gets through Texas tomorrow. 221 00:09:29,399 --> 00:09:30,960 I mean Texas, Like I said, no joke, it was. 222 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:35,080 They were obviously very athletic yesterday, so we'll see how 223 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:35,480 they're fair. 224 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,399 Speaker 1: David Nixon, former b why you great talking be what 225 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:40,120 you basketball? 226 00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: Do you ever get? 227 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: You ever tell Jerem like, hey, I can be a 228 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,720 basketball analyst too, Like why don't you call me up? 229 00:09:45,039 --> 00:09:47,200 Why Eric make a y j T while these other 230 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:49,559 basketball players when you can talk ball with the best. 231 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: And I've played off around high school, but that's about 232 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:57,080 where it stopped. And it's funny. I actually called the 233 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,919 Blue White Scrimmage plaid back like ten years ago. I 234 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,240 had to fill in because all the guys were gone, 235 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,000 and he asked me to fill in last minute, and 236 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,759 I quickly realized I'm not cut out for that job. 237 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:13,080 And I can chat hoops, but I can't. I can't 238 00:10:13,159 --> 00:10:15,919 jump in to the Typicallians as the relates to hoops. 239 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,039 So I quickly humbled me and I said, you know what, 240 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,080 that's the one and done for me. I'm an ajent 241 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,799 Devanta on BATV for basketball. I want and done. 242 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,879 Speaker 2: What have you been seeing, d Nicks? 243 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: What have you been hearing about Camp Kilani twenty twenty 244 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,440 six spring ball is well underweight? 245 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: Would have been the storylines? 246 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Who have been the players, what have been the position 247 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,360 groups that you've been most intrigued by, and what you've 248 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:40,879 been watching? 249 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:44,279 Speaker 4: For me, it's just watching our guy k Pop, you know, 250 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,480 kind of take the reins and make this his defense. 251 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,080 And you know, I know we all have to chat 252 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,000 with him a little bit here and there. He's obviously 253 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:54,960 super excited for this position. I think he's pretty confident 254 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,840 as well. I mean, but I tell people is, you know, 255 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Kelly's been in that room with Jay Hill and the 256 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,080 rest of that staff for the last three years. I mean, 257 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,559 he's been part of those same in game adjustments that 258 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,759 that Jay was making. I mean, these coaches are very 259 00:11:08,799 --> 00:11:10,720 capable that have been you know, that stayed on the 260 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,000 staff and stayed behind. So I'm confident that Kelleys you 261 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,960 will put his own twists on his defense and put 262 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,559 his own identity on his defense. He's gonna probably make 263 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,679 some changes that he wants to change. But the luxury 264 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,720 that Kelly has right now is the fact that you 265 00:11:23,799 --> 00:11:26,399 bring back all this death like you bring back all 266 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,600 these studs and these playmakers, and then and then you 267 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:31,240 add on to it. But I looked all across the board. 268 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:33,440 I mean kay de Lave what I mean, Well, yeah, 269 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,759 that that guy speaks his experience and his play on 270 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:38,559 the field speech for itself. But Jake Clifton coming in. 271 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,440 I looked at even Miles Hall at his production last year. 272 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,679 You look at you look at Tucuiti Attana, I mean 273 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,120 New Tautama, Pale like there's some Bonafi playmakers, Carol and 274 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,559 ton of Bosta clearly you know, get Justin Kirkland healthy. 275 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:53,159 I mean it's not just the starters, which has usually 276 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:55,799 been the case for BYU. Right. I've always says even 277 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,480 during independence, I thought BOU twenty two could match up 278 00:11:58,799 --> 00:12:00,639 with the majority of the school to aross the country. 279 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,039 The problem was, Doo, you never had the depth, right, 280 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:05,440 And that's what we've seen these last few years is 281 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,799 they're building that depth. And I think that's what you 282 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,200 specifically have this year. Not only do you have depth, 283 00:12:10,279 --> 00:12:12,559 but you have experience in that in the too deep 284 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:15,679 guys that have played meanful snaps throughout the season are 285 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,960 backing up the starters and can come in and relieve 286 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,960 them and you don't skip a beat and that and that. 287 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:22,000 Like I said, that wasn't the case five six, seven 288 00:12:22,039 --> 00:12:24,000 years ago, the second singers come in, it was a 289 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,840 huge drop off. So I think Kelly's walking himself into 290 00:12:27,919 --> 00:12:29,960 a really good situation. I think he had some studs 291 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,320 all across the board, even the secondary. You talked about 292 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,519 the Mooney and Satsawala, you know, and Pula's out there, 293 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:38,600 new newcomer. Pula's out there making plays in spring ball. 294 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,960 I think he's gonna have I think his toughest time 295 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,559 will be find out how to get his playmakers on 296 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,320 the field and how to utilize their talents and uh, 297 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,200 you know, try to put him in positions to succeed. 298 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,679 I think that's gonna be the toughest position or spot 299 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:53,080 as a de fortner, not not what defensive call, but 300 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,159 how to get these guys to get the most out 301 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,200 of them and put him positions to win. Because you 302 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:01,600 have the playmakers out there, so offensively, that's that's been 303 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,200 fun to watch kind of all that evolved offensively. For me, 304 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:08,399 it's just the continued production, watching watching Bear continue to 305 00:13:08,759 --> 00:13:12,120 progress as the quarterback. But you know, the wide receiver, 306 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,639 I think with obviously with with Parker being gone and 307 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,759 the shoes that have to be filled there as well 308 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:20,240 as Chase Roberts, there's some meaningful production that's gotta that's 309 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:23,120 gotta step up, you know, and and and Casper is 310 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,159 obviously one that's that's I'm mentionoued to see kind of 311 00:13:25,159 --> 00:13:28,559 how that all evolves. But you know, I think I 312 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,360 think more than ever we saw last year with Beuty 313 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,759 tight ends with Carson, Ryan got got involved, and now 314 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,440 Lions and Sarny poker there, I think you're gonna see 315 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,720 a lot of two tight end sets and getting those 316 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:40,480 big dudes of ball. 317 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, you know, Katie Luave like, well, let 318 00:13:45,039 --> 00:13:46,080 me let me, let me. 319 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: Break this down. 320 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: Kelly Thinker said that the deepest position most likely is 321 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,480 the lineback position on the entire team. Uh and uh, 322 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,320 it kind of bags the question of like you know, 323 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:02,279 when we're talking about scheme and front and the personnel 324 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,159 that typically we recruit. Like I was having this debate 325 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,000 with Cameron Jensen, a lot of the BAU fan base 326 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,960 think that Jay Hill came in and we were running 327 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,159 a majority forty front. 328 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, I didn't see that. 329 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of stand up edge work, whether 330 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:18,440 it was Jack, whether it was New c. I mean, 331 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,399 we were still running probably sixty to seventy thirty front 332 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:23,519 with a stand up outside edge. 333 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Every once in a while we'd have a forty front. 334 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,919 Speaker 1: But I've always said, I don't know if we have 335 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,080 like the personnel yet to have a two three D 336 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:34,720 forty front, you know, like at Tech, Texas Attack or 337 00:14:34,919 --> 00:14:38,000 even Utah for years, right they had depth there. 338 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,279 Speaker 2: We have continually recruited. 339 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: You were a part of that pipeline linebackers and we 340 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:48,639 are LBU right now. Look at the NFL, Look at 341 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:51,720 what's been produced consistently year over year undrafted free agency 342 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,360 draft picks. Give me kind of your analysis of the 343 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,840 linebacker room, how stacked it is, and maybe with the 344 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,559 future of our defensive scheme is with like it seems 345 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:04,480 like every single generation has linebackers coming through it. 346 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: At b YU. 347 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:08,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, like a couple of comments there, I agree with 348 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,240 that with what Kelly said, he actually was. We were 349 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,399 texting earlier this year and he said the same thing. 350 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,799 He's like, man, the linebacker room, could you you lose 351 00:15:14,879 --> 00:15:16,759 Jack Kelly also he started to panic a little bit 352 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,519 right and started with thinking, that's a lot of production gone. 353 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:22,120 How how do you get to back fill that? And 354 00:15:22,159 --> 00:15:24,559 then all of a sudden you get glaster back and 355 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,200 you get all these newcombers a lobby and clipped it 356 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,519 and some of these newcomers coming in, and then you 357 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:31,639 get the young guys that contribute last year as well. 358 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:34,759 I agree. I think the linebacker room is completely stacks. 359 00:15:34,919 --> 00:15:36,120 And like I said, I think that's one of the 360 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,360 issues tell you going to have is how do you 361 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,679 get all these dudes on the field? Right? Like, how 362 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:41,919 do you get these playmakers out there? And I go 363 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,519 to your next question about the scheme itself. It's interesting. 364 00:15:44,559 --> 00:15:47,279 I was having a conversation last night with the decordinator 365 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,200 for Quarter Canyon. You know, my kids go to Corner Cannons. 366 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:52,240 We were up there doing some stuff on seven stuff 367 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:57,159 last night and uh, it's Frankie Setera. The decordinator is 368 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,039 the brother of Casey's. There is now the head coach 369 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,960 and we're just for schemes and kind of the approach. 370 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,480 And it's funny. The game of football is kind of evolved, 371 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:07,080 I think, even from our time at b YU, where 372 00:16:07,559 --> 00:16:10,159 you really don't have a true base defense anymore. I 373 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:12,399 feel like I feel like it really is catered to 374 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:15,440 the opposing offense you're playing and your ability to be 375 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:18,840 nimble and and switch your defensive fronts up and put 376 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,200 your personnel out there to your point. Last year with 377 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:24,000 Nucy Newsy's a stand up at the end, but he 378 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,679 was strong enough you can put him down at three 379 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,600 point and take on the tackle and and be a 380 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:30,360 run stuff for like these guys at day and age, 381 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:33,600 the football players, they're so versatile that you can move 382 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:35,600 them around and put different schemes in front of them 383 00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:38,960 and have them execute pretty well. And you know, even 384 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,080 look at the days of It's funny because on Instagram 385 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,279 they have that whole uh that thing going viral right 386 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,320 now where it talks about the nineties, right like everything 387 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,200 that happened in the nineties. And I saw one another 388 00:16:50,279 --> 00:16:53,960 day about linebackers in the nineties and they showed like 389 00:16:54,039 --> 00:16:57,480 ray Lewis and yeah, you know, all these guys with 390 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,200 neck rolls right and just two fifty. I mean, look 391 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,279 at today ivinebackers right. Today, today's linebackers are in the 392 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,400 NFL are Fred warners, guys that can run side and 393 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,599 sideline and cover cover fast tight ends that are no 394 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,680 longer two seventy tight ends like they used to be. 395 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,319 So the game just continues to change and evolve. I think, Kelly, 396 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,680 I recognize that this defense. Yeah, you might be a 397 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,359 true four to three, but on any given down, you 398 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,000 could switch that to a three four, a five to two. 399 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,240 You can roll out five dbs and go back to 400 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,440 like a three three five hybrid. Like, there's so much 401 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,960 you can do, and the game's evolved so much it's 402 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,680 tough to say, hey, here's here's exactly our defense. Because 403 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:36,000 you can be I mean you can. You can throw 404 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,599 a lot of different fronts out there, and like I said, 405 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:39,759 a lot depends on the opposing offenses that you're running, 406 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,400 uh and and what you plan to what you play 407 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,039 the scheme up. 408 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: No doubt, any players that you're most intrigued by right 409 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:49,799 now on this roster as we go throughout spring ball, 410 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,920 and you've been keeping an eye on whether it's offense 411 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,599 or defense. 412 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, once again, I'm a little biased towards the defenside 413 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,319 of the ball. I for me, it's just continue to 414 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,160 build the depth I want to continue to seek had 415 00:18:02,839 --> 00:18:07,079 you know Kyd and Jake evolve. For me too, it's 416 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,079 it's just it's just getting the younger guys reps. That's 417 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:11,640 what spring ball is all for, right, Like, you don't 418 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,039 you don't need to see bosper out there and getting 419 00:18:14,279 --> 00:18:16,559 meaningful reps like stops of all of it. We know 420 00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:18,400 what these guys can do. That's not what spring balls for. 421 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,839 Spring balls to get these younger guys reps. Let them 422 00:18:20,839 --> 00:18:23,359 stand out, get some tape out there. Uh as they 423 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,160 head into kind of the summer summer years now, it 424 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,200 is good for the older guys to get good reps 425 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,119 and just stay you know, stay well oiled. But for me, 426 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,960 it's just watching the younger guys step up and offensively. 427 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,599 You're gonna have to have some playmakers, like you've got 428 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:39,359 to have to that and go up and and high 429 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,559 point the ball and attack the ball offensively and come 430 00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:44,440 down with big catches. And like I said earlier with 431 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,960 with the departure of Parker, like who's going to become 432 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:49,400 that dude, and I think we all have an idea, 433 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,559 right but once again, that's what spring ball's for. It 434 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:54,960 goes to go jump off the tape, you know, as 435 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,279 we talked about the eye and the sky, don't lie, like, 436 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,799 go make some plays and and try to catch the 437 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,039 I and and try to ride the momentum into to fallball, 438 00:19:03,079 --> 00:19:06,640 you know, summer and then fallball. But I'm just excited team. 439 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,240 You look at their returning production all across the board, 440 00:19:09,279 --> 00:19:12,279 dep offensive and defensively. I think the side limit for 441 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:14,079 the team, and I think they continue to buy into 442 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,079 the culture of what Kalani's building there and uh, you know, 443 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,799 especially off the success of the last two seasons, this 444 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,920 next season could be really fun. I mean you think about, 445 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,720 like I said, everything everyone you bring back and and 446 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,880 key parts as well you can throw all day in 447 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,240 their bearing there. I mean, there's some great production all 448 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,599 across the board. So I'm pumped. This is it's gonna 449 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:33,480 It's gonna be a fun year. 450 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,599 Speaker 1: David Nixon, Ladies and gentlemen talking ball today, make sure 451 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,480 you follow d Nix on Twitter and then link up 452 00:19:40,519 --> 00:19:42,680 with them on LinkedIn too. He's the senior manager at 453 00:19:42,759 --> 00:19:47,680 JL Commercial Real Estate expert specializing in leasing for growth companies. 454 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,640 Check them out, connect with them. If you need a 455 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,480 commercial property, you know who to call. 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