Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here. Did you see what it was or
Speaker 1: was it was? Standing enough. I'm out here looking through
Speaker 1: the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go outside, Jesus, Quice, you better hello, hit
Speaker 1: somebody out here? What quin I'm out there? It's thought
Speaker 1: of a bitch about tick forty nine? I don't know
Speaker 1: easy ann out there? Yeah, I'm walking right.
Speaker 2: Hey, all right, folks, real quick, before we get started,
Speaker 2: I just want to give you a little context. What
Speaker 2: you're about to hear are encounter stories from some good
Speaker 2: friends of mine over at the Sasquatch recon YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: These guys are boots on the ground researchers. They've got
Speaker 2: a ton of great videos first hand encounters and solid
Speaker 2: field research to back it all up. I've actually been
Speaker 2: out in the woods with them down in the South Mountains,
Speaker 2: so I can vouch for how seriously they take this. Now,
Speaker 2: just a heads up before we dive in. These interviews
Speaker 2: were recorded on location outdoors with other people around. I've
Speaker 2: done my best to clean up the audio as much
Speaker 2: as possible. But if you hear things you normally wouldn't in.
Speaker 3: A studio setting, that's why. So do me a favor.
Speaker 2: Click the link in the show notes, head over to
Speaker 2: Sasquatch Recon and check out their channel when you get
Speaker 2: a chance. But for now, sit back, relax, and enjoy
Speaker 2: these encounter stories from Sasquatch Recon.
Speaker 3: Okay, you just tell us your name and tell us
Speaker 3: your story. My name is James Edge.
Speaker 4: I'm from Cumberland County area that my family is from
Speaker 4: Turnbull Bladen County. My dad and my grandpa were deer hunters.
Speaker 4: I grew up in the woods. They were army guys.
Speaker 4: So when we moved into the city, every year we
Speaker 4: were going to the beach, and then one year I
Speaker 4: told my mom, I said, me and my son, we're
Speaker 4: not going. We're going to go to the mountains and
Speaker 4: cool off a little bit, and we started heading last
Speaker 4: every year. I'd got this love for hiking. My girlfriend
Speaker 4: and I we'd go out hiking everywhere. And I guess
Speaker 4: my experience has started about four years ago. Of course,
Speaker 4: I was born in seventy one and I watched In
Speaker 4: Search of Sasquad. I've always been fascinated with it, but
Speaker 4: looking at it from the primate perspective.
Speaker 3: Four years ago and my girlfriend I went.
Speaker 4: To a dark skyside out poss spoon possible Taga County
Speaker 4: called Graveyard Fields, and they don't have lights up there
Speaker 4: so they can use their telescopes. And our idea was
Speaker 4: to hike this big blue trail and sit down on
Speaker 4: a flat rack by the stream was dark and everything.
Speaker 4: We made it out there, it was beautiful, and I
Speaker 4: heard a growl come from the woods, and it spooked
Speaker 4: me that I really couldn't hear the direction it was
Speaker 4: coming from. I figured, Hey, then there's a bear out there,
Speaker 4: let's go. But the thing was is, at the time
Speaker 4: we were taking there, i'd go by myself with a
Speaker 4: sixty five liters pack and just walk out into the woods.
Speaker 4: I really wasn't scared of anything. I just viewed it
Speaker 4: as different dangers. Head driving in traffick is dangerous, so
Speaker 4: I wasn't scared in the woods. I absolutely loved getting
Speaker 4: out there. I noticed that feeling of dread. I'd never
Speaker 4: really felt that before in my stomach. We didn't think
Speaker 4: much of it. We ended up going camping again months later,
Speaker 4: so it wasn't long.
Speaker 3: After that we called a hell ride. We would go out.
Speaker 4: Into the mountains with no plans, no itinerary, just whatever
Speaker 4: happened again. And we've pushed out past Boone, North Carolina,
Speaker 4: out into the mountains where the roads are windy and
Speaker 4: two miles it takes a long time to tick them off.
Speaker 4: Like the Highway twenty miles goes by like that. These
Speaker 4: mountain roads one mile takes a long time. We ended
Speaker 4: up camping at this mountain bike camp out there. I
Speaker 4: can't remember what it was called, but it wasn't a
Speaker 4: popular one, and the only guys out there were working
Speaker 4: on mountain bikes, and they were all at the front
Speaker 4: of the campground. And just we're here at this festival,
Speaker 4: we're dispersed camping outs, so we like to push out.
Speaker 4: So my girlfriend and I we found this site away
Speaker 4: from the other campers and there's nothing out here, man
Speaker 4: Like I said. We took this windy road to get
Speaker 4: out there, crushed run and it was real majestic. We
Speaker 4: were seeing chicken of the forest, mushrooms, and the campground
Speaker 4: had a waterfall set on this trail head marker. So
Speaker 4: we take off and saw this beautiful waterfall with this
Speaker 4: pool and we were like, hey, let's pin it and
Speaker 4: come back here because we can swim in the summertime,
Speaker 4: so it was a little colder, and we made it
Speaker 4: to the top of us what if and my girlfriend's
Speaker 4: got her feet in the water, and we're just having
Speaker 4: the grandest time. This scrowl happened. It was low and
Speaker 4: it went on for thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: Well what got me?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 4: It was not feeling the dread again, but I couldn't
Speaker 4: tell where it was coming from.
Speaker 3: I figure a bear.
Speaker 4: I looked at her and I said, hey, we need
Speaker 4: to get out of here. She guts telling me to go.
Speaker 4: So we made our way down that waterfall and trying
Speaker 4: to move slow because your mind is telling you be humble,
Speaker 4: don't run, don't look back. So we're carefully making our
Speaker 4: way down. We make it back to the campsite. We're
Speaker 4: not able to process really what happened. Again, we're figuring
Speaker 4: and other bears running us off. So we make it
Speaker 4: back to the camp. We're relaxing, and then that night,
Speaker 4: I guess it was about eleven o'clock at night, she
Speaker 4: decides to go to bed.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm quite delighted.
Speaker 4: Because I got my fire, I got cold dreams. I'm
Speaker 4: in heaven out there, I have the moving around the
Speaker 4: steps out there, bipedial stepping right, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 4: something's out there. I'm just sitting here looking out into
Speaker 4: the darkness. I'm going to see something. And I wasn't
Speaker 4: thinking big sasquatch. I didn't think I was lucky enough
Speaker 4: for anything like that to have that to me. I'm
Speaker 4: not worried about winning the lottery. I wasn't worried about
Speaker 4: encountering bigfoot, because that's something I thought I would have wondered.
Speaker 4: I heard a tree snout, and in my mind I'm picturing, Okay,
Speaker 4: there's eight ten guys out there with a big strap
Speaker 4: on a tree and they all work together and pulled
Speaker 4: on like this ain't making sense, And I said, it's
Speaker 4: got to be a bear. So My instinct was get
Speaker 4: my girlfriend up and get her in the car. I
Speaker 4: know a bear can come and get you in the car,
Speaker 4: but there would have been safety there. The voice in
Speaker 4: my head said, buy that car is not going to
Speaker 4: protect you from whatever's off there. And I said, okay,
Speaker 4: if I'm not going to do that, what am I
Speaker 4: going to do? I said, get her in the car
Speaker 4: and willed. And that voice said that windy road at night,
Speaker 4: y'all had to maneuver that thing in the daytime, and
Speaker 4: whatever this is can get you in that car. And
Speaker 4: I really wouldn't asking questions, what is it? An instinct,
Speaker 4: so telling you that's not a solution. Next thing, my
Speaker 4: voice told me to put the fire out and got
Speaker 4: a bit, which is something I never would have done
Speaker 4: if there was a bear.
Speaker 3: I put the fire out.
Speaker 4: I went in my tent and I laid down. And
Speaker 4: when I laid down, I went right to sleep. And
Speaker 4: we didn't talk about the incidences. The next day. I
Speaker 4: didn't tell my girlfriend about it. I think I was
Speaker 4: disassociated because you can't process it.
Speaker 3: Yea, So it was I think years later.
Speaker 4: My son is a big footing fool zip, so we
Speaker 4: were breaking all this stuff down I was like, dude,
Speaker 4: this is really getting what happened that night, because what
Speaker 4: got me was when I went into my tent.
Speaker 3: And I'm a rock.
Speaker 4: Climber, hiker, rafter, I had camp and I know my
Speaker 4: tent like I grabbed my zipper and my new box.
Speaker 4: That night when I went to go get in the tent,
Speaker 4: I watched myself on zip it. I got in, I
Speaker 4: watched myself zip it up, and I know it had
Speaker 4: been just like putting keys in your pocket. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: have to watch, but I did. And I said that
Speaker 4: was so weird. And then I went right to bed.
Speaker 4: And I think it's because it affects our primal instincts
Speaker 4: were so full of fear because logically we cannot process
Speaker 4: that's what was happening. So that kind of shook me up.
Speaker 3: I come.
Speaker 4: I was on the Cape River is Harnett County up
Speaker 4: Liullington area in there a canoeing adventure spot, and I
Speaker 4: was by myself going parallel to the river gluver and.
Speaker 3: Out in the forest.
Speaker 4: I like to find places to sit in the woods
Speaker 4: by myself and kills me. I was out there with
Speaker 4: my little chuahah named Toby. This guy's five pounds. He
Speaker 4: ain't a puppy milk chuabah. He's healthy, like he can
Speaker 4: run and all that. And you know what, I didn't
Speaker 4: bring water for him. I said, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: good streams out there's clean water because it's spring water.
Speaker 4: And I said, I know, let you drink that, buddy.
Speaker 4: And he's panting because this was but a couple months
Speaker 4: ago and this is twenty twenty five. I had him
Speaker 4: with me on a harness and everything, and we got
Speaker 4: to the spot by a cold creep and I let
Speaker 4: him smell that water and he jumped in it. He
Speaker 4: drank all that water and he was charged up, and
Speaker 4: we went walking on. We found a spot and we
Speaker 4: sat down. So I'm sitting there and I hear this
Speaker 4: bipedial stepping again out in the woods, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: there's no way. Because I've been to Washington State, I've
Speaker 4: been to the east of the Cascades in Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 3: I've been to California.
Speaker 4: Alder these things have to never had experiences, and I
Speaker 4: did not think Harnett County, lower than the Piedmont, that
Speaker 4: I would experience bigfoot. So I'm not thinking this at all.
Speaker 4: But I'm hearing the step and and I do what
Speaker 4: I smart people do. I sit there and I stare
Speaker 4: in the woods like I'm going to see something.
Speaker 3: My dog, I'd let him off the leash.
Speaker 4: He took his harness off and was just letting him
Speaker 4: run around me because he would explore come back to
Speaker 4: be protected. As I'm watching this step, and I noticed
Speaker 4: that he's starting to go back this way. So I
Speaker 4: forget about this because I'm not worried about it. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, tell you get back here, man, give back here.
Speaker 4: And he turns around. He comes and looks at me,
Speaker 4: and I said, come here, buddy, and he gave me
Speaker 4: this look like I'm going to help us out.
Speaker 3: Turned and he looked like way.
Speaker 4: Where the car was part When he got sense the
Speaker 4: direction where that car was lost, a gun shot off
Speaker 4: and he turned into a competition. Weshman, I've stick old
Speaker 4: course running dog where they go through and he's running
Speaker 4: through the creek. Now I'm chasing him because I don't
Speaker 4: want to get lost in the woods. I'm leaving my phone,
Speaker 4: my keys and everything behind. We're all just stepping hot
Speaker 4: and I'm just thinking about the dog and I'm running
Speaker 4: through the creek I'm getting wet, and I lost him,
Speaker 4: and he made it up this hill and he hopped
Speaker 4: the jingle his tags so that I could find him.
Speaker 4: When he saw me coming, he's high telling it to
Speaker 4: the car. And when I caught up with him, because
Speaker 4: he got to think five pound shwallah.
Speaker 3: That was a lot of.
Speaker 4: Steps and I'm in full sprint man trying to get him,
Speaker 4: and hill got him. Once he hit that hill, he
Speaker 4: got tired and he's cowered down, and I was like,
Speaker 4: come on now, I got to go back to get
Speaker 4: the phone and the keys, and he's just like he's
Speaker 4: went in to freeze, like he wasn't scared, he wasn't mad,
Speaker 4: wasn't I. So I'm just holding him the whole time
Speaker 4: because his heart's about to beat out of his chest.
Speaker 4: He just ran for his life and tried to save me.
Speaker 4: I'm not all there. I'm like not, I'm the human
Speaker 4: and the mechanical realm. I've leaving science and we're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I go back and I pick up the stuff.
Speaker 4: And at this point, man, like I said two months ago,
Speaker 4: it was hot, and I'm like, let's go back to
Speaker 4: the car put their condition on home. So we start
Speaker 4: walking along this creep back to the car. Because I'm walking,
Speaker 4: I hear the stepping, so I stopped and I turned
Speaker 4: with him, and I'm looking out there in the woods
Speaker 4: and I'm starting to see something. I saw the sky
Speaker 4: running through the woods, and if I told my son,
Speaker 4: I looks like a guy with black hair and brown skin.
Speaker 3: So I thought it was.
Speaker 4: Somebody out their trail running with the little iPad in
Speaker 4: And you're a bud out there again, I said, that
Speaker 4: ain't what it is. And I'm focused and I'm looking
Speaker 4: and i'm looking well as I'm staring into the woods,
Speaker 4: and this is thirty yards if that now, I have
Speaker 4: to tell you that when I heard that stepping out there,
Speaker 4: I started to fill that filling of dread. And I'm
Speaker 4: leaving out actually crucial part of the story. When I
Speaker 4: started down there, I saw a tree structure right, and
Speaker 4: I was just like, there's no way.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: I thought people like us built it for fun. I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: no way. So I'm walking and as I'm going down
Speaker 4: the trail, I see this dog and I don't want
Speaker 4: my little dog to eat not I'm always ready. I
Speaker 4: got this tactical harness. I can nank him up and
Speaker 4: hold them. It was a deer, and two deer walked
Speaker 4: in front of me. We're just stopped and we're staring
Speaker 4: at me. At the time, I'm thinking. At this time,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, man, I'm like snow white butterflies are laying
Speaker 4: on my finger. I'm seeing deer walk in front of
Speaker 4: me and they're not scared of me. But it was
Speaker 4: about six deer moving the lay from what was on
Speaker 4: the side of the creek. I didn't think nothing of
Speaker 4: it of this time anyway, So that experience with the
Speaker 4: deer was something else, because, like I said, I grew
Speaker 4: up deer hunting and they don't just come up. So
Speaker 4: he runs back to the car, pick him up or
Speaker 4: bring him back. I gathered the phone, keys and everything,
Speaker 4: and I'm ready to go about getting their conditioned car
Speaker 4: and go home.
Speaker 3: And we're walking along the creek bed.
Speaker 4: Hear that footstepping and I see the booker running around it.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to me yet. Thirty yards out
Speaker 4: and there's a tree, and about ten feet up that tree,
Speaker 4: I see what I think is an owl because I'm like,
Speaker 4: what am I looking at? And the hair is coming
Speaker 4: off of the arms, and I'm focused on because I
Speaker 4: can't really the way the body was crunched up at
Speaker 4: the time I'm focused, and he came up like this.
Speaker 4: I saw this arm with this hair. It wasn't madden
Speaker 4: and dirty. This guy was beautiful, the hair on the arm.
Speaker 4: Once I knew what I was looking at, I looked
Speaker 4: to the face. Okay, his face, black eyes, there's no
Speaker 4: white in these eyes.
Speaker 3: They were black.
Speaker 4: The face was coal ash like it was black, but
Speaker 4: it was like coal ash, and all the lines were
Speaker 4: dark black. The nostrils were black, and the pig met
Speaker 4: under his lips right here, whereas black as the shadows
Speaker 4: of his nostrils. Seeing him like this, we're talking half
Speaker 4: a second, two seconds, but it's like an eternity because
Speaker 4: I'm like, what am I looking at?
Speaker 3: So what? I saw them come up?
Speaker 4: I saw the arms and the hair, and as soon
Speaker 4: as I focused on the arm, I looked to the face.
Speaker 4: The hair was like white tan, and it wasn't dark haired,
Speaker 4: black skin, light tan hair.
Speaker 3: And he wasn't a heavy thought.
Speaker 4: I think it might have been a juvenile because he
Speaker 4: was probably six seven foot tall, and as soon as
Speaker 4: I focused in on his face, he sprung up, having
Speaker 4: ten feet to hide behind the next tree. Then when
Speaker 4: I say spring like even monkeys like us, they get
Speaker 4: down and they use their whole to him. It was
Speaker 4: like nothing to just spring that way. And that played
Speaker 4: with my mind because it showed me how much stronger
Speaker 4: this thing was than me. And at that point it
Speaker 4: really wasn't fear, but it was still that feeling of
Speaker 4: something I don't understand and dread.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
Speaker 4: After these messages, and my voice was saying it's time
Speaker 4: to go again. You feel like you don't want to
Speaker 4: run out of respect. You don't look back, and we
Speaker 4: walk back and I'm just sitting there thinking what the
Speaker 4: heck is going on? My son can testify for me.
Speaker 4: I'm not the kind of person to tell lies. I
Speaker 4: trust people and their vibrations and their truthfulness. I came
Speaker 4: back and I said, we're gonna peak it that the
Speaker 4: tree structure, because it's on the way back to the
Speaker 4: car's stopping. They're gonna look over at it. And when
Speaker 4: I came back, it was gone and not dismantled. It
Speaker 4: was gone. We got back to the car. This guy
Speaker 4: he is all excited when he rides in the car,
Speaker 4: he wants his nose out the window. He wants to
Speaker 4: stop at cookout and get a burger.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: He's very active. He laid in my lap and who
Speaker 4: didn't move. And when I got home, he laid down
Speaker 4: and went and do it. And we would call going
Speaker 4: out into the woods and adventure, and I say, hey,
Speaker 4: they you want to go on an adventure, Let's goin
Speaker 4: to get excited here to talk to Gingu one and everything.
Speaker 4: When I say that word now, he licks his lips
Speaker 4: and puts his heads down and starts shaking. And I
Speaker 4: say you big first, and he starts shaking. So he
Speaker 4: was traumatized by it. But I'm here to testify to
Speaker 4: you on everything I know and love that I saw
Speaker 4: one with my own eyes. And I was a believer
Speaker 4: pretty much a knower before that time. I bet I'm
Speaker 4: a full on nowhere.
Speaker 3: Now. I know they're out there.
Speaker 4: And my understandings and opinion and research is that like
Speaker 4: a dog knows when they're scared, and they know when
Speaker 4: you're happy, they know when we're coming out there to
Speaker 4: harm them. They know what we're going to come out
Speaker 4: there and tell other people where they're at where to
Speaker 4: find them, and if you're coming out there without intention,
Speaker 4: you're probably not going to.
Speaker 3: Have much luck.
Speaker 4: I agree that if you're coming out there with love
Speaker 4: and respect, you may experience something. And if you're there
Speaker 4: to respect them, because you know, when I said I
Speaker 4: felt scared, I was saying putting it out there, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to take a picture. I'm not going to
Speaker 4: send anybody back here those guns, love camera careers. I'm
Speaker 4: just going home. Let me go home. And I think
Speaker 4: if you go out there with that intention, though, you
Speaker 4: might have an experience that isn't scary, but just because
Speaker 4: there's something we don't understand, you're still probably gonna want
Speaker 4: to get away.
Speaker 3: To get back to safety. That was about it.
Speaker 4: But it changed my life, and I was excited to
Speaker 4: come out here to this festival in Newari and speak
Speaker 4: with other people that have experienced some of the same.
Speaker 3: Things we're knowers.
Speaker 4: Maybe it isn't for everybody, Yeah, because this certainly changed
Speaker 4: my view on life and what I want out of
Speaker 4: life and what I fear and.
Speaker 3: What say, there's a whole it's like a shift and
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, things aren't exactly like I thought they were.
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, we might not have been told everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah we were definitely were. Yeah, I've talked to a
Speaker 3: lot of people this had that somewhat similar experience that
Speaker 3: just changed everything. Yep.
Speaker 4: So after the Graveyard Fields, my second incidence, I didn't
Speaker 4: really call sasquatch experience till later that I was in
Speaker 4: on the Blue Ridge Parkway and I hit a trail
Speaker 4: head and I would like to load my pack up
Speaker 4: and just hike west off of the trail and then
Speaker 4: hang east back. You'll hit the trailer of the road
Speaker 4: and can find the car easily that I'd parked on
Speaker 4: the trail head, had my stuff ready, I got started
Speaker 4: welcome parallel to the parkway. On the trail, I found
Speaker 4: a spot I could start picking out, and I hiked
Speaker 4: out into the woods.
Speaker 3: I got in like this clearing and and it was
Speaker 3: just like heaven. Agail.
Speaker 4: Was one of those moments where I said, Lord, thank
Speaker 4: you for this able body that I'm able to still
Speaker 4: get out here and do this and experience creation. I'm
Speaker 4: so full of gratitude. I got the panic of the woods.
Speaker 4: Everything went quiet, and if you've ever experienced the panic
Speaker 4: of the woods, you know what I'm talking about It's
Speaker 4: like being in the most quiet room in the world.
Speaker 4: It's so quiet you start to hear your body processes,
Speaker 4: and the quiet is unsettling because it feels like the
Speaker 4: pause button has been hit on the world.
Speaker 3: It's too quiet, and that eerie feeling.
Speaker 4: Well, gut flipped and my brain said get out of
Speaker 4: here and go about your car and leave, and I'd
Speaker 4: turn around.
Speaker 3: And I got it.
Speaker 4: I was thinking apex predator at the time, But the
Speaker 4: more I learned about Panic of the Woods, it made
Speaker 4: sense because you feel about these hardened, that seasoned outdoorsmen,
Speaker 4: that rough got it, that got scared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wasn't the type to get scared, like
Speaker 3: even bears.
Speaker 4: Different dangers, traffic's dangerous, but that I had that panic
Speaker 4: of the woods and that quiet, and now later I
Speaker 4: also count that as one of my Bigfoot experiences because
Speaker 4: I think that I was in the presence and I
Speaker 4: was with their infrasound that they had like tigers and
Speaker 4: other predators whatever it is they use.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been a wild ride and I'm grateful
Speaker 3: knowing better than not know.
Speaker 4: And honestly, I feel if I died tomorrow, I would
Speaker 4: be at peace, just knowing that I learned some of
Speaker 4: the secrets of this world before going Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, so exactly all right, Yeah, I've experienced
Speaker 3: the same things you were talking about and different things,
Speaker 3: and you just realize it right away when everything lays
Speaker 3: down and it's not normal. You know what's normal, whether
Speaker 3: you consciously think of it or not, but you know
Speaker 3: what what's going on here, and everything else knows. That's right.
Speaker 3: They know. Bugs, even the trees, I think they stay still.
Speaker 4: I could real quick show one more experience with you.
Speaker 4: I was out there on the river close to Raven
Speaker 4: Rock State Putt, but I was again closer to Canoe
Speaker 4: Adventure Area, and there was this hill, and I had
Speaker 4: this idea going out these places by yourself. Granted I'm
Speaker 4: not in the Lynnville Gorge or out in Montana No
Speaker 4: Man's Land, but he was still somewhere. People have a
Speaker 4: hard time finding you if you went in a sinkhole
Speaker 4: or credit or even if you just fell out in
Speaker 4: the woods, if you're not telling people where you're going.
Speaker 4: But I used to be excited by that, and I
Speaker 4: wanted to make it as dangerous as possible. And this
Speaker 4: was before I had seen the actual bugger. So this
Speaker 4: happened probably early spring, probably around May. I was near
Speaker 4: the same area where I saw the bugger. I had
Speaker 4: this idea to crest up this still and the hill
Speaker 4: was a little bigger than I thought.
Speaker 3: I thought I'd just take a few steps, and.
Speaker 4: Every time you did go this way, and then it
Speaker 4: go that way, and I'm like, man, I'm really going
Speaker 4: at this thing. The tree growth at the top of
Speaker 4: the hill was so thick that it looked like the
Speaker 4: Lord of the Rings, dark forest the sun. It's a
Speaker 4: day like this, just a few clouds or sun, and
Speaker 4: it was dark as night in those woods, and I
Speaker 4: was like, man, that's not what I expected that. I
Speaker 4: expected to just be grass trees on the top of
Speaker 4: this hill, on top of the world, like some Doc
Speaker 4: Watson bliss. When I started to come closer to this hill,
Speaker 4: I got that feeling the dread, and a sink hole
Speaker 4: popped in my head. I don't know low, and I
Speaker 4: was like, dang, man, I don't want to get up
Speaker 4: on top of this hill and fall into a sinkhole.
Speaker 4: I took a photograph of how dark the wood was
Speaker 4: and I was going to turn around. I shared the
Speaker 4: photo with my son and there was a little glitch
Speaker 4: in the photo where up in the tree it's then
Speaker 4: a little bit and I was like, dude, that is wild,
Speaker 4: isn't it. And he was like yeah, I said, But
Speaker 4: the craziest thing about that story is, as I told you,
Speaker 4: I had to keep turning to get up the hill
Speaker 4: look like you could walk up, and then you know
Speaker 4: how you start cresting a hill. It ain't the crast.
Speaker 4: You gotta go with the terrain. And I was marking.
Speaker 4: I'm from North Carolina country, so it's my terrain, my homewoods,
Speaker 4: especially Cape Fair River area and that area, the Cape
Speaker 4: Fear River Hunted. As I'm going up, I'm okay, rocks here,
Speaker 4: tree there, you know what I mean. And then when
Speaker 4: I got out there, I had that experience. When I
Speaker 4: turned around, nothing looked the same, like I remember the
Speaker 4: trees and all that, and then when I turned around,
Speaker 4: it was like there were more trees and I was
Speaker 4: put more prime strong, and I was like, dude, no, yeah,
Speaker 4: I've done stuff like this before and I could get lost,
Speaker 4: but you sttn't.
Speaker 3: It looked completely different than me.
Speaker 4: I came down the hill in a different place, but
Speaker 4: I thought that was my gut was telling me he
Speaker 4: could fall on a scene, call up here, nobody's gonna
Speaker 4: find you. But knowing what I know now, with that,
Speaker 4: fell in a dread, not being able to remember the
Speaker 4: terrain because your brain kind of gets glitched stuff's going on.
Speaker 4: On a primal level, I was understanding and reacting to
Speaker 4: things that this right here or any program that would
Speaker 4: be another one that I threw in that category.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've had a similar experience, and you wonder.
Speaker 3: I went out camping and I walked out a little ways.
Speaker 3: I had just gotten there. On the way, I was
Speaker 3: just looking around by it, turn back eye, this overwhelming
Speaker 3: feeling you know, you need to live, Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: just get't shake it. You need to leave it. Nothing
Speaker 3: had really happened, here's just this feeling. I thought I
Speaker 3: had done it enough to know I'm going to listen
Speaker 3: to that. That's right. I don't know what's gonna happen,
Speaker 3: but I'm going to listen to that.
Speaker 4: And I went right back in the truck, picked up
Speaker 4: and land And how would you explain that, because that's
Speaker 4: not something we would normally do. Right.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: We went out to Cade's cod about a month or
Speaker 3: so ago. The three of us, and we had set
Speaker 3: up and you know the loop at Cade's Cove. You're
Speaker 3: right around this loop and they close it dark and
Speaker 3: we just let everybody go. Yeah, I just stay out
Speaker 3: there for the night. We set up all of our stuff.
Speaker 3: It's just beautiful. You can see up through there. That's
Speaker 3: probably about the third time in my life ever got
Speaker 3: that feeling like I'm about to get in trouble. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is, but I just had this
Speaker 3: overwhelming feeling that we were about to get in trouble.
Speaker 3: I didn't know how or what. And I told d White,
Speaker 3: I said, I hate to say this, but I think
Speaker 3: we need to go. He's Wye said, I got a
Speaker 3: bad feeling. He's let's go. We've been together a long time,
Speaker 3: that's right. And so we loaded up and we left
Speaker 3: and we were easing out and a rock hit the
Speaker 3: back window like smack, not like something hit the glack
Speaker 3: with horse. Matter of fact, it made a little place
Speaker 3: in the window. It was like an old suburban the back,
Speaker 3: very back side. When Chris was in the car with me,
Speaker 3: d it was on a bike in front of us,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my gosh. I knew right away.
Speaker 3: What it was, and we both cussed and was like
Speaker 3: that was a rock. Yeah. Chris was like stop im
Speaker 3: and get out. I said, no, we're leaving because the
Speaker 3: next one can be right here, sir, or no.
Speaker 4: Only two things that throw rocks. There's men in the
Speaker 4: woods and the man in other.
Speaker 3: Woods, exactly right. And we were out there, this is
Speaker 3: eleven miles out right right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ain't know, but sneaking around trying to play
Speaker 4: prints on them.
Speaker 3: That's so I was like, that's the last time I
Speaker 3: said that feeling it was a bad. It's very real. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just felt like I'm about to get in trouble.
Speaker 3: That's why I just kept thinking, I'm about to get
Speaker 3: in trouble. But I don't know how or what. And
Speaker 3: I just thought, I know these things are out here.
Speaker 3: Let's just got or maybe it's something else. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but we need to get.
Speaker 4: If it's something we've wanted to be big.
Speaker 3: But I was just like, I know, we just got
Speaker 3: at me here long and we had all the stuff
Speaker 3: sed up.
Speaker 4: But oh, my son and I are the same way.
Speaker 4: We would trust each other's instincts on that. Now knowing
Speaker 4: what you know, now when you know they're out there
Speaker 4: when you know it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had stuff out there. We had actually gotten
Speaker 3: one really good picture on the daylight, and I would
Speaker 3: think even if we hadn't gotten that, I would think
Speaker 3: they'd been there because there's lots of encounters stories all
Speaker 3: around the Yeah. So yeah, I know that feeling, and
Speaker 3: I haven't had it many times. But when you have it,
Speaker 3: you got to listen to it, sir.
Speaker 4: All right, brother, I appreciate you letting me share my story,
Speaker 4: and I've enjoyed hearing y'all stories really refreshing just to
Speaker 4: get around people that have had the same experience. I've
Speaker 4: enjoyed looking at your pictures knowing they're authentic. And if
Speaker 4: you all go out there with good intention because you're
Speaker 4: trying to document it, but you're not going to call
Speaker 4: in helicopters.
Speaker 3: On it, and they know that we're just most of
Speaker 3: the time, nothing happens and you go aloft in the
Speaker 3: right spots. Yeah, we don't have any ill intentions whatso, Yes, sir,
Speaker 3: we just enjoy each other's company and maybe something happened,
Speaker 3: maybe it won't, probably won't. As you go things happen,
Speaker 3: then they happen when you least expect it, Yes, sir, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've had a good time doing this. It's turned into
Speaker 3: a long journeys, but a fun one. That's right. That's
Speaker 3: exactly right, because it was good to talk. Thank you,
Speaker 3: Thank you all right, talk to me brother. Okay. This
Speaker 3: happened in twenty fourteen before I met Dwight. I guess
Speaker 3: I was just a year into it, and I had
Speaker 3: a thermal. I had the original Dwight. What model is that?
Speaker 3: The Greenman that was the original snout model? Yeah, two
Speaker 3: feety six in the right conditions is decent. What we
Speaker 3: have now is a whole lot better. But anyway, we
Speaker 3: had gone up to Thurman Chatham. There's a hunter safety
Speaker 3: area there, or there was. We met. I had found
Speaker 3: what I thought was a pretty impressive stick structure up
Speaker 3: on the mountain. David Pardue, former BFRO guy, met Susan
Speaker 3: I up there, and so we hiked up there and
Speaker 3: checked it out. It was pretty cool all the way
Speaker 3: down we met. So we go back to our camp,
Speaker 3: which is down in the valley. There had a little
Speaker 3: fire going at that time. I hadn't rigged mine up
Speaker 3: to record, but Dave's recorded. Dave Moser, we were sitting
Speaker 3: by a little campfire, and Pardu was telling us some stories.
Speaker 3: Now he's got some stories. He's got some really good
Speaker 3: stories about people that we know. I will call no names,
Speaker 3: but he was like, it was pretty good. It was interesting.
Speaker 3: It was definitely interesting. So we were sitting around talking
Speaker 3: and over to my left, it's dark. We're sitting in
Speaker 3: the dark. There's no lights, no electricity out there, nothing,
Speaker 3: We had nothing but the little campfire. I saw eye
Speaker 3: shine probably twenty yards maybe or real big. I'm not
Speaker 3: turning on e lights, and do not point if we
Speaker 3: think we see something. Nobody moves. You sit down, you
Speaker 3: don't get up, you don't look, you just act natural.
Speaker 5: So is that the bfros their baseline of what they
Speaker 5: want to happen on one of their outings?
Speaker 3: Okay, I think so. I've never been a member, never
Speaker 3: been on one of their outings, but I think so.
Speaker 3: And they we're big on that, which, okay, I get it.
Speaker 3: I agree with all that.
Speaker 2: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 2: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: So I describe what I'm looking at and they look
Speaker 3: and they were like, yeah, there is. So we sit
Speaker 3: there and talk about it and Pardieu was facing it
Speaker 3: and I had to kind of look this way to
Speaker 3: see it, and Susan kind of had to look that way.
Speaker 3: It was ease and closer and closer to us. As
Speaker 3: we talked. You could tell it was getting closer. It
Speaker 3: had cover, but it was getting closer and closer. My wife, Susan,
Speaker 3: she got nervous. That's probably one of the two times,
Speaker 3: and those two times happened to be at that exact
Speaker 3: spot years apart. Really got her attention, I'll say that.
Speaker 3: So we watched this, we talked about it, and it
Speaker 3: would ease up, and she was getting nervous because you
Speaker 3: could see it. It wasn't no, oh, what is that?
Speaker 3: You could see it. So Pardu and Moserr both they
Speaker 3: were really good. Yeah, and you can hear it in
Speaker 3: that video. We were talking about it was like just really,
Speaker 3: they ain't gonna do nothing. They just checking us out.
Speaker 3: It's cool, Just be cool. Dave Moser had his thermal
Speaker 3: mounted on a pole like a monopod. He had it mounted,
Speaker 3: he had audio with it, which was first time I
Speaker 3: ever seen by do that, and he could just turn it.
Speaker 3: It was a screen. It was like a thermal going
Speaker 3: to a screen, so he could turn the thermal and
Speaker 3: watch the screen, so he could watch behind him like
Speaker 3: we do. He could watch behind him without you know, turning. Look.
Speaker 3: So he finds one over in the bushes over here,
Speaker 3: like another one you could kind of look like a
Speaker 3: Buddha like sitting on the ground in the brush. And
Speaker 3: we watched it. And this went on for hours, and
Speaker 3: this one over here we get a little closer and
Speaker 3: a little closer, and I started to get a little
Speaker 3: That was I was only a year in to it,
Speaker 3: so I was like, this is crazy. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: glad they're here. Not that they're going to save my life,
Speaker 3: but it makes me feel better. These guys have some experience.
Speaker 3: Cardo has a lot of comfort in numbers. Yeah. So
Speaker 3: we're sitting there watching and the one over here, as
Speaker 3: far as I was sitting, the one you could see
Speaker 3: was over here. He was watching and from here to
Speaker 3: the churches where it was sitting in the brush, and
Speaker 3: it was a decent size. You could see the head, shoulders,
Speaker 3: the hodeel, and you could see it move around. It
Speaker 3: was like, this is crazy. There's one over there, and
Speaker 3: there's one over there.
Speaker 5: So this whole time, let me ask you, the whole
Speaker 5: time that you're seeing it, can you visibly see the
Speaker 5: eye shine as the eye shine consistent, Yes, the whole time.
Speaker 3: The whole time on the one over here.
Speaker 5: So you can see the outline of the body moving,
Speaker 5: but the whole time the eyes shine is still.
Speaker 3: Sharing the whole time, and you could see the eyes moving.
Speaker 3: You could see it working its way up slowly, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, just how close is it going to get?
Speaker 3: Because there's a little opening, so it's just outside of
Speaker 3: that opening in the brush. But you got to tell
Speaker 3: it's like a row of woods that's probably fifteen yards thick,
Speaker 3: and then there's this huge field on the other side
Speaker 3: of it, and then you got the woods, and then
Speaker 3: you got a little where we're camped. We sat there
Speaker 3: till four thirty in the morning, watch them the whole time,
Speaker 3: until we just got so sleepy that one finally got
Speaker 3: to a point and didn't come any closer, and we're like,
Speaker 3: we're gonna turn in, try to grab a little bit asleep.
Speaker 3: Christian was with us, he was in the van asleep.
Speaker 3: Susan and I threw pitched the tent. They had tents too,
Speaker 3: like a little one man tents so they just got
Speaker 3: and we just it was really weird Gordon to getting
Speaker 3: in that tent thinking there's two big foot it over there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen?
Speaker 5: And you've got exactly one millimeter of protection with your tent.
Speaker 3: But they weren't throwing anything, they weren't making noises, there
Speaker 3: was nothing aggressive about it. And that was one of
Speaker 3: the first few times we went to that area. Much
Speaker 3: like the field turned out to be. They come through
Speaker 3: there a lot. I've got a video of two of them.
Speaker 3: It's not great video, but you can definitely tell it's
Speaker 3: two and that they're coming through here. And then they
Speaker 3: stop and they look move around a little bit, and
Speaker 3: then they move on off and there's no there was
Speaker 3: nobody else out there. You got to know where this is.
Speaker 3: This is out there, you've been there, yeah, and there's
Speaker 3: nowhere to go. There's creek, there's two good sized creeks
Speaker 3: down there. There's just really no for a person to go.
Speaker 3: And then it goes straight up a mountain. So that
Speaker 3: was pretty good. So the rest of what happened is
Speaker 3: we've sleep till probably daylight, probably grabbed a couple hours sleep.
Speaker 3: I heard them get up, so we got up. We
Speaker 3: sat there in a little minute and made some coffee
Speaker 3: and Moser said, let's go over there and where the
Speaker 3: one was sitting. Let's go see what we can see.
Speaker 3: So we go over there. It's not very far. It's
Speaker 3: like print there. So we walk up in there and
Speaker 3: there's this big matted down like all the grass and everything.
Speaker 3: It's just blat right. You had parked I mean you
Speaker 3: had parked pound weight on it. Yeah, that was as
Speaker 3: flat could be, right, Not like a deer bed. I've
Speaker 3: seen deer beds. This is like a pretty good sized area.
Speaker 3: That thing had set down there and watched us. It
Speaker 3: had eased in and set there. We watched them and
Speaker 3: they watched us for hours. Had that happen a few times,
Speaker 3: but that was the first time I had seen when
Speaker 3: we had our Susan and I had our sighting before that,
Speaker 3: and so they're definitely you could see it moving, you
Speaker 3: could see the head, you could see the body, and
Speaker 3: it was set rank there and then it was this
Speaker 3: big matted down spot. Other things that have happened in
Speaker 3: that exact same spot over the years. Dwight and I
Speaker 3: were sleeping in the suburban. I don't know when it
Speaker 3: was if it was November. It's cold weather. I mean
Speaker 3: it was cold and we sat in the dark. So
Speaker 3: we had set in the dark for a while. I
Speaker 3: was like, look, I'm getting in the car. So we
Speaker 3: got then laid the seats back. It was his January.
Speaker 3: I mean it was like twenty two degrees outside at least.
Speaker 3: It's cold ark. There's no lights that all out there.
Speaker 3: So we were in the car sleeping and I heard
Speaker 3: this big just you know, like loud. It's like, look like,
Speaker 3: what was that. I thought it broke a window or something.
Speaker 3: It sounded like something like a car, Wendley. So I'm
Speaker 3: looking at I'm like, and then Dwight, here's me moving around.
Speaker 3: So's something. I was like, man, something just knocked the
Speaker 3: hell out inside of the car or somewhere on the car.
Speaker 3: And my first instinct was to get out. And then
Speaker 3: I thought, I've already seen him here. We've caught stuff
Speaker 3: on thermal here several times. Right, you knew better. I
Speaker 3: wasn't get to jump up because I couldn't see that.
Speaker 3: I had a headlaut, but you being dude, it was
Speaker 3: like I couldn't see him in fren your face, So
Speaker 3: I thought, no, I'm not getting out, so I told her,
Speaker 3: I said, let's just stay till this daylight and before
Speaker 3: we don't get out, we'll get out at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So woke up with after it gotten light to get
Speaker 3: up and I was like, okay, step out really easy,
Speaker 3: and let's look for any kind of a print. I
Speaker 3: don't know how close it was or if it threw
Speaker 3: something or what. I was really expecting to find a
Speaker 3: DNT or a cracked window or something was last some
Speaker 3: major damage. It was loud and it wasn't from us.
Speaker 3: It hit the vehicle. We get out and we're easing
Speaker 3: around and we're looking. Not really great ground for prints,
Speaker 3: and we're looking and we're looking around, and walked around
Speaker 3: the Dwight side of the capassenger side of the car.
Speaker 3: I looked over it and there was a big ass handprint,
Speaker 3: like a dirty handprint under like the back door on
Speaker 3: the passenger side, right under the window. And I was like, look,
Speaker 3: there's a damn handprint. It was a good sized handprint,
Speaker 3: I thought. I don't know if he was like using
Speaker 3: it to steady himself to look in the window, which
Speaker 3: Dwight's head was like that far from the handprint because
Speaker 3: he had the seat laid back, and I thought, damn right,
Speaker 3: that was disclosed while we were sleeping.
Speaker 5: Maybe it just wanted to wake y'all up so that
Speaker 5: it could see all his actions.
Speaker 3: It woke us up, It woke me up, and I
Speaker 3: woke right up. That was pretty good. And then a
Speaker 3: couple of years after that, my wife Susan and I
Speaker 3: we took the old Ford van out there. We did
Speaker 3: what you and I did one night. We would cover
Speaker 3: with dark plastics so they can't see in, and I
Speaker 3: mounted my thermal on what do you call that on
Speaker 3: a periscope, Yeah, where I could turn it no noise
Speaker 3: or anything, and rent it to my laptop. So she
Speaker 3: and I went up there. We pulled back in this
Speaker 3: exact spot and we were just we try to be quiet.
Speaker 3: We're listening. She and I were just sitting there. It
Speaker 3: was late fall. It was only like eight thirty between
Speaker 3: eight thirty nine o'clock at and height, but it was dark.
Speaker 3: It sounded like it was right over Susan's head, is
Speaker 3: what it sounded like, hit the top of the van
Speaker 3: like Pam Pam and I had a little fan because
Speaker 3: I didn't want to run the injine anything that plugs
Speaker 3: into the cigarette lighter. And they had a magnetic base.
Speaker 3: It was stuck to the ceiling. There's no real headline
Speaker 3: or anything in it right behind there, and it knocked
Speaker 3: it off into the floor.
Speaker 5: So the vibration of it hitting the top of the
Speaker 5: van knocked that magnetic mount loose.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a significant one. It's not yeah light, I mean,
Speaker 3: but bam, and the fan falls and more like in Susan,
Speaker 3: she don't cuss or anything. She looked at me and
Speaker 3: she said, what the hell was this? I said, you
Speaker 3: know what it was? And it stunned me for many
Speaker 3: It was like and I'm like, holy this the force
Speaker 3: of it scared me. It stunns me for a minute.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do we do with it? Because
Speaker 3: it's just me and her. If it been me and y'all,
Speaker 3: not that again, You're gonna save my life. But I
Speaker 3: feel without it. But it's just me and her. And
Speaker 3: we had the doors, like we always locked the doors
Speaker 3: because bearskin on the locked door, and there's definitely bears
Speaker 3: up there. But this is an F two fifty. If
Speaker 3: you stand beside it, I'm six feet six one. I
Speaker 3: can just barely reach the top of the van. I
Speaker 3: can't even you know what I'm saying. So I had
Speaker 3: to have some size to it. Yeah, who knows. And
Speaker 3: so I'm sitting there stunned, and I'm thinking, what do
Speaker 3: I do? What do I do? Is that a person?
Speaker 3: It's probably a squatch? Shit, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 3: And then I think, oh, I've got buffalo air running.
Speaker 3: I just didn't think this was all Within twenty thirty seconds,
Speaker 3: I grab it and I turn it and all I
Speaker 3: see is something in the you know when you back
Speaker 3: up to that spot toward the field side, like the
Speaker 3: roads right here. I saw something big but not a
Speaker 3: good picture go into the bush and I'm like, that
Speaker 3: was not a bear. That was not a bear. And
Speaker 3: then my other thought is what is that a person?
Speaker 3: And I thought, well, that's a person. I can definitely
Speaker 3: take care of that problem. But I looked around and
Speaker 3: I was watching where you come in, and there was
Speaker 3: nobody there. Nobody had pulled in. It's a fairly remote
Speaker 3: spot and I could see nobody had pulled in, and
Speaker 3: I'm looking all around. At that time, I really didn't
Speaker 3: have a tilt. I just had where I thought I
Speaker 3: needed to set it, and that's where I set it.
Speaker 3: So we waited a little bit, maybe twenty thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I got a peete. So he said, don't
Speaker 3: get out, please, don't get this, and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna step out right here. I got my light,
Speaker 3: I turned the lights on in the van, like the headlights,
Speaker 3: stepped right outside the door pee and got back in.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, you know how you do?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: And I thought I had made a mistake. On the
Speaker 3: windows of the van. I put on the side doors,
Speaker 3: passinger door and the driver's door. I put that heavy,
Speaker 3: thick meal black plastic on the inside, right, but on
Speaker 3: the windshield it's easier to put it on the outside.
Speaker 3: Put a little piece of tape on, a little piece
Speaker 3: of tape on it. When show wipers that we're good
Speaker 3: barring some crazy winter. Yeah, And I thought I've covered
Speaker 3: the windshield up. But then I thought, so I turned
Speaker 3: the fleer around there, and I thought I can get
Speaker 3: out of here using that fleir watch the fleer.
Speaker 5: And so in your thought process, you're like, I can
Speaker 5: leave the black plastic up for driving because you didn't
Speaker 5: need that. You can still navigate with your thermal through
Speaker 5: the trees, through the trees and down the road. At
Speaker 5: least get to the road, just to get at least
Speaker 5: get to the road.
Speaker 3: And then I can open up and I can yank
Speaker 3: it off if I had to stand up and reach
Speaker 3: around and yank it off. And Susan was like, mental note,
Speaker 3: don't put the plastic on the out But I have
Speaker 3: done that since on the outside because it's easier. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And then we sat there the rest of the night.
Speaker 3: We spent the night. Nothing else happened that I can
Speaker 3: remember on that trip. So we saw the two. Dwight's
Speaker 3: got a thermal that he sent me the other day
Speaker 3: that I don't remember seeing, but maybe I did see it.
Speaker 3: It's not the exact spot, but it's from here to
Speaker 3: the other side of a little circle here. It's close.
Speaker 3: I've got a thermal of two of them. I've got
Speaker 3: a thermal it looks like two standing back in the woods.
Speaker 3: And then I've got a thermal. Do you remember that
Speaker 3: thermal I posted while back? Me and you were there
Speaker 3: and I set it was the bushnail like vision. I
Speaker 3: set it up on the tripod, that tripod as high
Speaker 3: as I could get it right, and I just pointed
Speaker 3: into the woods and from where this thing was standing
Speaker 3: where we were sitting, to where it was standing was
Speaker 3: probably eight yards, but it was in the woods, inside
Speaker 3: the woodline, and you can see it looks like it's
Speaker 3: got a snout and you can just barely see it.
Speaker 3: It turned its head a little bit. It's not great,
Speaker 3: but you can see it. If you scrub back and
Speaker 3: forth through it, you can see it, and that it
Speaker 3: moves its head.
Speaker 5: That just goes to prove that if you're a stationary
Speaker 5: like that and you give them enough time, they will
Speaker 5: come towards you and approach you.
Speaker 6: That's our whole thing, that's my whole thing. Neverth