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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here. Did you see what it was or

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<v Speaker 1>was it was? Standing enough. I'm out here looking through

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<v Speaker 1>the window now and I don't see anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go outside, Jesus, Quice, you better hello, hit

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out here? What quin I'm out there? It's thought

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<v Speaker 1>of a bitch about tick forty nine? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>easy ann out there? Yeah, I'm walking right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, all right, folks, real quick, before we get started,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to give you a little context. What

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<v Speaker 2>you're about to hear are encounter stories from some good

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<v Speaker 2>friends of mine over at the Sasquatch recon YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys are boots on the ground researchers. They've got

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of great videos first hand encounters and solid

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<v Speaker 2>field research to back it all up. I've actually been

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<v Speaker 2>out in the woods with them down in the South Mountains,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can vouch for how seriously they take this. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>just a heads up before we dive in. These interviews

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<v Speaker 2>were recorded on location outdoors with other people around. I've

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<v Speaker 2>done my best to clean up the audio as much

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<v Speaker 2>as possible. But if you hear things you normally wouldn't in.

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<v Speaker 3>A studio setting, that's why. So do me a favor.

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<v Speaker 2>Click the link in the show notes, head over to

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<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch Recon and check out their channel when you get

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<v Speaker 2>a chance. But for now, sit back, relax, and enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>these encounter stories from Sasquatch Recon.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you just tell us your name and tell us

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<v Speaker 3>your story. My name is James Edge.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm from Cumberland County area that my family is from

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<v Speaker 4>Turnbull Bladen County. My dad and my grandpa were deer hunters.

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up in the woods. They were army guys.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we moved into the city, every year we

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<v Speaker 4>were going to the beach, and then one year I

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<v Speaker 4>told my mom, I said, me and my son, we're

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<v Speaker 4>not going. We're going to go to the mountains and

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<v Speaker 4>cool off a little bit, and we started heading last

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<v Speaker 4>every year. I'd got this love for hiking. My girlfriend

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<v Speaker 4>and I we'd go out hiking everywhere. And I guess

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<v Speaker 4>my experience has started about four years ago. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>I was born in seventy one and I watched In

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<v Speaker 4>Search of Sasquad. I've always been fascinated with it, but

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<v Speaker 4>looking at it from the primate perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>Four years ago and my girlfriend I went.

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<v Speaker 4>To a dark skyside out poss spoon possible Taga County

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<v Speaker 4>called Graveyard Fields, and they don't have lights up there

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<v Speaker 4>so they can use their telescopes. And our idea was

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<v Speaker 4>to hike this big blue trail and sit down on

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<v Speaker 4>a flat rack by the stream was dark and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>We made it out there, it was beautiful, and I

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<v Speaker 4>heard a growl come from the woods, and it spooked

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<v Speaker 4>me that I really couldn't hear the direction it was

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<v Speaker 4>coming from. I figured, Hey, then there's a bear out there,

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<v Speaker 4>let's go. But the thing was is, at the time

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<v Speaker 4>we were taking there, i'd go by myself with a

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<v Speaker 4>sixty five liters pack and just walk out into the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>I really wasn't scared of anything. I just viewed it

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<v Speaker 4>as different dangers. Head driving in traffick is dangerous, so

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't scared in the woods. I absolutely loved getting

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<v Speaker 4>out there. I noticed that feeling of dread. I'd never

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<v Speaker 4>really felt that before in my stomach. We didn't think

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<v Speaker 4>much of it. We ended up going camping again months later,

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<v Speaker 4>so it wasn't long.

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<v Speaker 3>After that we called a hell ride. We would go out.

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<v Speaker 4>Into the mountains with no plans, no itinerary, just whatever

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<v Speaker 4>happened again. And we've pushed out past Boone, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 4>out into the mountains where the roads are windy and

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<v Speaker 4>two miles it takes a long time to tick them off.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the Highway twenty miles goes by like that. These

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<v Speaker 4>mountain roads one mile takes a long time. We ended

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<v Speaker 4>up camping at this mountain bike camp out there. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't remember what it was called, but it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 4>popular one, and the only guys out there were working

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<v Speaker 4>on mountain bikes, and they were all at the front

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<v Speaker 4>of the campground. And just we're here at this festival,

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<v Speaker 4>we're dispersed camping outs, so we like to push out.

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<v Speaker 4>So my girlfriend and I we found this site away

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<v Speaker 4>from the other campers and there's nothing out here, man

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<v Speaker 4>Like I said. We took this windy road to get

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<v Speaker 4>out there, crushed run and it was real majestic. We

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<v Speaker 4>were seeing chicken of the forest, mushrooms, and the campground

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<v Speaker 4>had a waterfall set on this trail head marker. So

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<v Speaker 4>we take off and saw this beautiful waterfall with this

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<v Speaker 4>pool and we were like, hey, let's pin it and

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<v Speaker 4>come back here because we can swim in the summertime,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was a little colder, and we made it

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<v Speaker 4>to the top of us what if and my girlfriend's

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<v Speaker 4>got her feet in the water, and we're just having

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<v Speaker 4>the grandest time. This scrowl happened. It was low and

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<v Speaker 4>it went on for thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>Well what got me?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 4>It was not feeling the dread again, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>tell where it was coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>I figure a bear.

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<v Speaker 4>I looked at her and I said, hey, we need

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<v Speaker 4>to get out of here. She guts telling me to go.

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<v Speaker 4>So we made our way down that waterfall and trying

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<v Speaker 4>to move slow because your mind is telling you be humble,

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<v Speaker 4>don't run, don't look back. So we're carefully making our

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<v Speaker 4>way down. We make it back to the campsite. We're

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<v Speaker 4>not able to process really what happened. Again, we're figuring

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<v Speaker 4>and other bears running us off. So we make it

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<v Speaker 4>back to the camp. We're relaxing, and then that night,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it was about eleven o'clock at night, she

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<v Speaker 4>decides to go to bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I'm quite delighted.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I got my fire, I got cold dreams. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in heaven out there, I have the moving around the

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<v Speaker 4>steps out there, bipedial stepping right, and I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>something's out there. I'm just sitting here looking out into

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<v Speaker 4>the darkness. I'm going to see something. And I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>thinking big sasquatch. I didn't think I was lucky enough

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<v Speaker 4>for anything like that to have that to me. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not worried about winning the lottery. I wasn't worried about

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<v Speaker 4>encountering bigfoot, because that's something I thought I would have wondered.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard a tree snout, and in my mind I'm picturing, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>there's eight ten guys out there with a big strap

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<v Speaker 4>on a tree and they all work together and pulled

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<v Speaker 4>on like this ain't making sense, And I said, it's

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<v Speaker 4>got to be a bear. So My instinct was get

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<v Speaker 4>my girlfriend up and get her in the car. I

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<v Speaker 4>know a bear can come and get you in the car,

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<v Speaker 4>but there would have been safety there. The voice in

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<v Speaker 4>my head said, buy that car is not going to

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<v Speaker 4>protect you from whatever's off there. And I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>if I'm not going to do that, what am I

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<v Speaker 4>going to do? I said, get her in the car

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<v Speaker 4>and willed. And that voice said that windy road at night,

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<v Speaker 4>y'all had to maneuver that thing in the daytime, and

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<v Speaker 4>whatever this is can get you in that car. And

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<v Speaker 4>I really wouldn't asking questions, what is it? An instinct,

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<v Speaker 4>so telling you that's not a solution. Next thing, my

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<v Speaker 4>voice told me to put the fire out and got

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<v Speaker 4>a bit, which is something I never would have done

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<v Speaker 4>if there was a bear.

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<v Speaker 3>I put the fire out.

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<v Speaker 4>I went in my tent and I laid down. And

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<v Speaker 4>when I laid down, I went right to sleep. And

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't talk about the incidences. The next day. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't tell my girlfriend about it. I think I was

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<v Speaker 4>disassociated because you can't process it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, So it was I think years later.

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<v Speaker 4>My son is a big footing fool zip, so we

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<v Speaker 4>were breaking all this stuff down I was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>this is really getting what happened that night, because what

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<v Speaker 4>got me was when I went into my tent.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm a rock.

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<v Speaker 4>Climber, hiker, rafter, I had camp and I know my

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<v Speaker 4>tent like I grabbed my zipper and my new box.

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<v Speaker 4>That night when I went to go get in the tent,

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<v Speaker 4>I watched myself on zip it. I got in, I

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<v Speaker 4>watched myself zip it up, and I know it had

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<v Speaker 4>been just like putting keys in your pocket. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have to watch, but I did. And I said that

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<v Speaker 4>was so weird. And then I went right to bed.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's because it affects our primal instincts

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<v Speaker 4>were so full of fear because logically we cannot process

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<v Speaker 4>that's what was happening. So that kind of shook me up.

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<v Speaker 3>I come.

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<v Speaker 4>I was on the Cape River is Harnett County up

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<v Speaker 4>Liullington area in there a canoeing adventure spot, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was by myself going parallel to the river gluver and.

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<v Speaker 3>Out in the forest.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to find places to sit in the woods

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<v Speaker 4>by myself and kills me. I was out there with

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<v Speaker 4>my little chuahah named Toby. This guy's five pounds. He

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<v Speaker 4>ain't a puppy milk chuabah. He's healthy, like he can

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<v Speaker 4>run and all that. And you know what, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>bring water for him. I said, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>good streams out there's clean water because it's spring water.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, I know, let you drink that, buddy.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's panting because this was but a couple months

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<v Speaker 4>ago and this is twenty twenty five. I had him

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<v Speaker 4>with me on a harness and everything, and we got

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<v Speaker 4>to the spot by a cold creep and I let

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<v Speaker 4>him smell that water and he jumped in it. He

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<v Speaker 4>drank all that water and he was charged up, and

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<v Speaker 4>we went walking on. We found a spot and we

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<v Speaker 4>sat down. So I'm sitting there and I hear this

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<v Speaker 4>bipedial stepping again out in the woods, and I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no way. Because I've been to Washington State, I've

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<v Speaker 4>been to the east of the Cascades in Portland, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been to California.

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<v Speaker 4>Alder these things have to never had experiences, and I

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<v Speaker 4>did not think Harnett County, lower than the Piedmont, that

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<v Speaker 4>I would experience bigfoot. So I'm not thinking this at all.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm hearing the step and and I do what

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<v Speaker 4>I smart people do. I sit there and I stare

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<v Speaker 4>in the woods like I'm going to see something.

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<v Speaker 3>My dog, I'd let him off the leash.

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<v Speaker 4>He took his harness off and was just letting him

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<v Speaker 4>run around me because he would explore come back to

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<v Speaker 4>be protected. As I'm watching this step, and I noticed

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<v Speaker 4>that he's starting to go back this way. So I

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<v Speaker 4>forget about this because I'm not worried about it. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, tell you get back here, man, give back here.

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<v Speaker 4>And he turns around. He comes and looks at me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said, come here, buddy, and he gave me

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<v Speaker 4>this look like I'm going to help us out.

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<v Speaker 3>Turned and he looked like way.

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<v Speaker 4>Where the car was part When he got sense the

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<v Speaker 4>course running dog where they go through and he's running

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<v Speaker 4>through the creek. Now I'm chasing him because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>my keys and everything behind. We're all just stepping hot

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm just thinking about the dog and I'm running

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<v Speaker 4>and he made it up this hill and he hopped

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<v Speaker 4>the jingle his tags so that I could find him.

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<v Speaker 4>When he saw me coming, he's high telling it to

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<v Speaker 4>Steps and I'm in full sprint man trying to get him,

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<v Speaker 4>went in to freeze, like he wasn't scared, he wasn't mad,

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<v Speaker 4>So I go back and I pick up the stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And at this point, man, like I said two months ago,

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<v Speaker 4>walking along this creep back to the car. Because I'm walking,

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<v Speaker 4>I hear the stepping, so I stopped and I turned

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<v Speaker 4>with him, and I'm looking out there in the woods

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm starting to see something. I saw the sky

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<v Speaker 4>running through the woods, and if I told my son,

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<v Speaker 4>I looks like a guy with black hair and brown skin.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're a bud out there again, I said, that

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<v Speaker 4>ain't what it is. And I'm focused and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>and i'm looking well as I'm staring into the woods,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is thirty yards if that now, I have

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you that when I heard that stepping out there,

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<v Speaker 4>I started to fill that filling of dread. And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>started down there, I saw a tree structure right, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought people like us built it for fun. I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>no way. So I'm walking and as I'm going down

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<v Speaker 4>the trail, I see this dog and I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>my little dog to eat not I'm always ready. I

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<v Speaker 4>got this tactical harness. I can nank him up and

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<v Speaker 4>hold them. It was a deer, and two deer walked

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<v Speaker 4>in front of me. We're just stopped and we're staring

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<v Speaker 4>at me. At the time, I'm thinking. At this time,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking, man, I'm like snow white butterflies are laying

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<v Speaker 4>on my finger. I'm seeing deer walk in front of

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<v Speaker 4>me and they're not scared of me. But it was

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<v Speaker 4>about six deer moving the lay from what was on

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<v Speaker 4>the side of the creek. I didn't think nothing of

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<v Speaker 4>it of this time anyway, So that experience with the

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<v Speaker 4>deer was something else, because, like I said, I grew

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<v Speaker 4>up deer hunting and they don't just come up. So

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<v Speaker 4>he runs back to the car, pick him up or

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<v Speaker 4>bring him back. I gathered the phone, keys and everything,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm ready to go about getting their conditioned car

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<v Speaker 4>and go home.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're walking along the creek bed.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what to me yet. Thirty yards out

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<v Speaker 4>and there's a tree, and about ten feet up that tree,

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<v Speaker 4>I see what I think is an owl because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>what am I looking at? And the hair is coming

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<v Speaker 4>off of the arms, and I'm focused on because I

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<v Speaker 4>can't really the way the body was crunched up at

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<v Speaker 4>the time I'm focused, and he came up like this.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw this arm with this hair. It wasn't madden

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<v Speaker 4>and dirty. This guy was beautiful, the hair on the arm.

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<v Speaker 4>Once I knew what I was looking at, I looked

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<v Speaker 4>to the face. Okay, his face, black eyes, there's no

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<v Speaker 4>white in these eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>They were black.

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<v Speaker 4>The face was coal ash like it was black, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was like coal ash, and all the lines were

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<v Speaker 4>dark black. The nostrils were black, and the pig met

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<v Speaker 4>under his lips right here, whereas black as the shadows

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<v Speaker 4>of his nostrils. Seeing him like this, we're talking half

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<v Speaker 4>a second, two seconds, but it's like an eternity because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what am I looking at?

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<v Speaker 3>So what? I saw them come up?

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<v Speaker 4>I saw the arms and the hair, and as soon

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<v Speaker 4>as I focused on the arm, I looked to the face.

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<v Speaker 4>The hair was like white tan, and it wasn't dark haired,

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<v Speaker 4>black skin, light tan hair.

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<v Speaker 3>And he wasn't a heavy thought.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it might have been a juvenile because he

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<v Speaker 4>was probably six seven foot tall, and as soon as

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<v Speaker 4>I focused in on his face, he sprung up, having

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<v Speaker 4>ten feet to hide behind the next tree. Then when

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<v Speaker 4>I say spring like even monkeys like us, they get

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<v Speaker 4>down and they use their whole to him. It was

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<v Speaker 4>like nothing to just spring that way. And that played

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<v Speaker 4>with my mind because it showed me how much stronger

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<v Speaker 4>this thing was than me. And at that point it

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<v Speaker 4>really wasn't fear, but it was still that feeling of

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<v Speaker 4>something I don't understand and dread.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 4>After these messages, and my voice was saying it's time

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<v Speaker 4>to go again. You feel like you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>run out of respect. You don't look back, and we

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<v Speaker 4>walk back and I'm just sitting there thinking what the

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<v Speaker 4>heck is going on? My son can testify for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not the kind of person to tell lies. I

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<v Speaker 4>trust people and their vibrations and their truthfulness. I came

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<v Speaker 4>back and I said, we're gonna peak it that the

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<v Speaker 4>tree structure, because it's on the way back to the

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<v Speaker 4>car's stopping. They're gonna look over at it. And when

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<v Speaker 4>I came back, it was gone and not dismantled. It

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<v Speaker 4>was gone. We got back to the car. This guy

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<v Speaker 4>he is all excited when he rides in the car,

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<v Speaker 4>he wants his nose out the window. He wants to

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<v Speaker 4>stop at cookout and get a burger.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very active. He laid in my lap and who

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<v Speaker 4>didn't move. And when I got home, he laid down

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<v Speaker 4>and went and do it. And we would call going

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<v Speaker 4>out into the woods and adventure, and I say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>they you want to go on an adventure, Let's goin

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<v Speaker 4>to get excited here to talk to Gingu one and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>When I say that word now, he licks his lips

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<v Speaker 4>and puts his heads down and starts shaking. And I

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<v Speaker 4>say you big first, and he starts shaking. So he

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<v Speaker 4>was traumatized by it. But I'm here to testify to

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<v Speaker 4>you on everything I know and love that I saw

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<v Speaker 4>one with my own eyes. And I was a believer

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much a knower before that time. I bet I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a full on nowhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. I know they're out there.

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<v Speaker 4>And my understandings and opinion and research is that like

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<v Speaker 4>a dog knows when they're scared, and they know when

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<v Speaker 4>you're happy, they know when we're coming out there to

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<v Speaker 4>harm them. They know what we're going to come out

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<v Speaker 4>there and tell other people where they're at where to

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<v Speaker 4>find them, and if you're coming out there without intention,

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<v Speaker 4>you're probably not going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Have much luck.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree that if you're coming out there with love

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<v Speaker 4>and respect, you may experience something. And if you're there

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<v Speaker 4>to respect them, because you know, when I said I

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<v Speaker 4>felt scared, I was saying putting it out there, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to take a picture. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>send anybody back here those guns, love camera careers. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just going home. Let me go home. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>if you go out there with that intention, though, you

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<v Speaker 4>might have an experience that isn't scary, but just because

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<v Speaker 4>there's something we don't understand, you're still probably gonna want

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<v Speaker 4>to get away.

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<v Speaker 3>To get back to safety. That was about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it changed my life, and I was excited to

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<v Speaker 4>come out here to this festival in Newari and speak

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<v Speaker 4>with other people that have experienced some of the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Things we're knowers.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it isn't for everybody, Yeah, because this certainly changed

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<v Speaker 4>my view on life and what I want out of

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<v Speaker 4>life and what I fear and.

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<v Speaker 3>What say, there's a whole it's like a shift and

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, things aren't exactly like I thought they were.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. Yeah, we might not have been told everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah we were definitely were. Yeah, I've talked to a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people this had that somewhat similar experience that

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<v Speaker 3>just changed everything. Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>So after the Graveyard Fields, my second incidence, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>really call sasquatch experience till later that I was in

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<v Speaker 4>on the Blue Ridge Parkway and I hit a trail

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<v Speaker 4>head and I would like to load my pack up

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<v Speaker 4>and just hike west off of the trail and then

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<v Speaker 4>hang east back. You'll hit the trailer of the road

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<v Speaker 4>and can find the car easily that I'd parked on

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<v Speaker 4>the trail head, had my stuff ready, I got started

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<v Speaker 4>welcome parallel to the parkway. On the trail, I found

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<v Speaker 4>a spot I could start picking out, and I hiked

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<v Speaker 4>out into the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>I got in like this clearing and and it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like heaven. Agail.

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<v Speaker 4>Was one of those moments where I said, Lord, thank

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<v Speaker 4>you for this able body that I'm able to still

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<v Speaker 4>get out here and do this and experience creation. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>so full of gratitude. I got the panic of the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything went quiet, and if you've ever experienced the panic

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<v Speaker 4>of the woods, you know what I'm talking about It's

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<v Speaker 4>like being in the most quiet room in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so quiet you start to hear your body processes,

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<v Speaker 4>and the quiet is unsettling because it feels like the

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<v Speaker 4>pause button has been hit on the world.

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<v Speaker 3>It's too quiet, and that eerie feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, gut flipped and my brain said get out of

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<v Speaker 4>here and go about your car and leave, and I'd

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<v Speaker 4>turn around.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking apex predator at the time, But the

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<v Speaker 4>more I learned about Panic of the Woods, it made

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<v Speaker 4>sense because you feel about these hardened, that seasoned outdoorsmen,

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<v Speaker 4>that rough got it, that got scared.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I wasn't the type to get scared, like

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<v Speaker 3>even bears.

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<v Speaker 4>Different dangers, traffic's dangerous, but that I had that panic

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<v Speaker 4>of the woods and that quiet, and now later I

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<v Speaker 4>also count that as one of my Bigfoot experiences because

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<v Speaker 4>I think that I was in the presence and I

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<v Speaker 4>was with their infrasound that they had like tigers and

423
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<v Speaker 4>other predators whatever it is they use.

424
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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's been a wild ride and I'm grateful

425
00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:11.119
<v Speaker 3>knowing better than not know.

426
00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.640
<v Speaker 4>And honestly, I feel if I died tomorrow, I would

427
00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.880
<v Speaker 4>be at peace, just knowing that I learned some of

428
00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:21.759
<v Speaker 4>the secrets of this world before going Yeah.

429
00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:25.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true, so exactly all right, Yeah, I've experienced

430
00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:28.839
<v Speaker 3>the same things you were talking about and different things,

431
00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:31.920
<v Speaker 3>and you just realize it right away when everything lays

432
00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:34.880
<v Speaker 3>down and it's not normal. You know what's normal, whether

433
00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:36.920
<v Speaker 3>you consciously think of it or not, but you know

434
00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:42.160
<v Speaker 3>what what's going on here, and everything else knows. That's right.

435
00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:45.720
<v Speaker 3>They know. Bugs, even the trees, I think they stay still.

436
00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:49.319
<v Speaker 4>I could real quick show one more experience with you.

437
00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:51.559
<v Speaker 4>I was out there on the river close to Raven

438
00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:54.799
<v Speaker 4>Rock State Putt, but I was again closer to Canoe

439
00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:58.079
<v Speaker 4>Adventure Area, and there was this hill, and I had

440
00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:02.200
<v Speaker 4>this idea going out these places by yourself. Granted I'm

441
00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:05.480
<v Speaker 4>not in the Lynnville Gorge or out in Montana No

442
00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:08.160
<v Speaker 4>Man's Land, but he was still somewhere. People have a

443
00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.319
<v Speaker 4>hard time finding you if you went in a sinkhole

444
00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:13.200
<v Speaker 4>or credit or even if you just fell out in

445
00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:15.359
<v Speaker 4>the woods, if you're not telling people where you're going.

446
00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.000
<v Speaker 4>But I used to be excited by that, and I

447
00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:21.079
<v Speaker 4>wanted to make it as dangerous as possible. And this

448
00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:25.039
<v Speaker 4>was before I had seen the actual bugger. So this

449
00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:30.559
<v Speaker 4>happened probably early spring, probably around May. I was near

450
00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.039
<v Speaker 4>the same area where I saw the bugger. I had

451
00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.519
<v Speaker 4>this idea to crest up this still and the hill

452
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<v Speaker 4>was a little bigger than I thought.

453
00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I thought I'd just take a few steps, and.

454
00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:41.960
<v Speaker 4>Every time you did go this way, and then it

455
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<v Speaker 4>go that way, and I'm like, man, I'm really going

456
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<v Speaker 4>at this thing. The tree growth at the top of

457
00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:50.680
<v Speaker 4>the hill was so thick that it looked like the

458
00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Lord of the Rings, dark forest the sun. It's a

459
00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:57.160
<v Speaker 4>day like this, just a few clouds or sun, and

460
00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:00.599
<v Speaker 4>it was dark as night in those woods, and I

461
00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:02.559
<v Speaker 4>was like, man, that's not what I expected that. I

462
00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:05.680
<v Speaker 4>expected to just be grass trees on the top of

463
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<v Speaker 4>this hill, on top of the world, like some Doc

464
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<v Speaker 4>Watson bliss. When I started to come closer to this hill,

465
00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:17.119
<v Speaker 4>I got that feeling the dread, and a sink hole

466
00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:19.559
<v Speaker 4>popped in my head. I don't know low, and I

467
00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:21.400
<v Speaker 4>was like, dang, man, I don't want to get up

468
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<v Speaker 4>on top of this hill and fall into a sinkhole.

469
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<v Speaker 4>I took a photograph of how dark the wood was

470
00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:30.640
<v Speaker 4>and I was going to turn around. I shared the

471
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<v Speaker 4>photo with my son and there was a little glitch

472
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<v Speaker 4>in the photo where up in the tree it's then

473
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<v Speaker 4>a little bit and I was like, dude, that is wild,

474
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<v Speaker 4>isn't it. And he was like yeah, I said, But

475
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<v Speaker 4>the craziest thing about that story is, as I told you,

476
00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:48.759
<v Speaker 4>I had to keep turning to get up the hill

477
00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:50.279
<v Speaker 4>look like you could walk up, and then you know

478
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<v Speaker 4>how you start cresting a hill. It ain't the crast.

479
00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.240
<v Speaker 4>You gotta go with the terrain. And I was marking.

480
00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:01.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm from North Carolina country, so it's my terrain, my homewoods,

481
00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:04.319
<v Speaker 4>especially Cape Fair River area and that area, the Cape

482
00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Fear River Hunted. As I'm going up, I'm okay, rocks here,

483
00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.359
<v Speaker 4>tree there, you know what I mean. And then when

484
00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:12.720
<v Speaker 4>I got out there, I had that experience. When I

485
00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:17.759
<v Speaker 4>turned around, nothing looked the same, like I remember the

486
00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:19.960
<v Speaker 4>trees and all that, and then when I turned around,

487
00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 4>it was like there were more trees and I was

488
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:25.960
<v Speaker 4>put more prime strong, and I was like, dude, no, yeah,

489
00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:29.039
<v Speaker 4>I've done stuff like this before and I could get lost,

490
00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:29.920
<v Speaker 4>but you sttn't.

491
00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:31.680
<v Speaker 3>It looked completely different than me.

492
00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:35.119
<v Speaker 4>I came down the hill in a different place, but

493
00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:37.720
<v Speaker 4>I thought that was my gut was telling me he

494
00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:39.839
<v Speaker 4>could fall on a scene, call up here, nobody's gonna

495
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.400
<v Speaker 4>find you. But knowing what I know now, with that,

496
00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:47.000
<v Speaker 4>fell in a dread, not being able to remember the

497
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:51.480
<v Speaker 4>terrain because your brain kind of gets glitched stuff's going on.

498
00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:56.200
<v Speaker 4>On a primal level, I was understanding and reacting to

499
00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:00.640
<v Speaker 4>things that this right here or any program that would

500
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.480
<v Speaker 4>be another one that I threw in that category.

501
00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I've had a similar experience, and you wonder.

502
00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.799
<v Speaker 3>I went out camping and I walked out a little ways.

503
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I had just gotten there. On the way, I was

504
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:18.039
<v Speaker 3>just looking around by it, turn back eye, this overwhelming

505
00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:21.160
<v Speaker 3>feeling you know, you need to live, Yeah, and I

506
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:23.440
<v Speaker 3>just get't shake it. You need to leave it. Nothing

507
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:27.599
<v Speaker 3>had really happened, here's just this feeling. I thought I

508
00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.160
<v Speaker 3>had done it enough to know I'm going to listen

509
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.400
<v Speaker 3>to that. That's right. I don't know what's gonna happen,

510
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:34.640
<v Speaker 3>but I'm going to listen to that.

511
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<v Speaker 4>And I went right back in the truck, picked up

512
00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:39.640
<v Speaker 4>and land And how would you explain that, because that's

513
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<v Speaker 4>not something we would normally do. Right.

514
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<v Speaker 1>No.

515
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 3>We went out to Cade's cod about a month or

516
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.279
<v Speaker 3>so ago. The three of us, and we had set

517
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:49.039
<v Speaker 3>up and you know the loop at Cade's Cove. You're

518
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:51.000
<v Speaker 3>right around this loop and they close it dark and

519
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.240
<v Speaker 3>we just let everybody go. Yeah, I just stay out

520
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.920
<v Speaker 3>there for the night. We set up all of our stuff.

521
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.440
<v Speaker 3>It's just beautiful. You can see up through there. That's

522
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:00.400
<v Speaker 3>probably about the third time in my life ever got

523
00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:03.200
<v Speaker 3>that feeling like I'm about to get in trouble. I

524
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.920
<v Speaker 3>don't know what it is, but I just had this

525
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.000
<v Speaker 3>overwhelming feeling that we were about to get in trouble.

526
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know how or what. And I told d White,

527
00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I said, I hate to say this, but I think

528
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:15.880
<v Speaker 3>we need to go. He's Wye said, I got a

529
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 3>bad feeling. He's let's go. We've been together a long time,

530
00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:23.200
<v Speaker 3>that's right. And so we loaded up and we left

531
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:27.440
<v Speaker 3>and we were easing out and a rock hit the

532
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:31.880
<v Speaker 3>back window like smack, not like something hit the glack

533
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.759
<v Speaker 3>with horse. Matter of fact, it made a little place

534
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.480
<v Speaker 3>in the window. It was like an old suburban the back,

535
00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:40.640
<v Speaker 3>very back side. When Chris was in the car with me,

536
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.160
<v Speaker 3>d it was on a bike in front of us,

537
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.039
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh my gosh. I knew right away.

538
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:47.119
<v Speaker 3>What it was, and we both cussed and was like

539
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:51.519
<v Speaker 3>that was a rock. Yeah. Chris was like stop im

540
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 3>and get out. I said, no, we're leaving because the

541
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:58.160
<v Speaker 3>next one can be right here, sir, or no.

542
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:02.839
<v Speaker 4>Only two things that throw rocks. There's men in the

543
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 4>woods and the man in other.

544
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.319
<v Speaker 3>Woods, exactly right. And we were out there, this is

545
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 3>eleven miles out right right.

546
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:12.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they ain't know, but sneaking around trying to play

547
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:13.240
<v Speaker 4>prints on them.

548
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:16.680
<v Speaker 3>That's so I was like, that's the last time I

549
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:20.440
<v Speaker 3>said that feeling it was a bad. It's very real. Yeah,

550
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I just felt like I'm about to get in trouble.

551
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:26.160
<v Speaker 3>That's why I just kept thinking, I'm about to get

552
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:28.400
<v Speaker 3>in trouble. But I don't know how or what. And

553
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:30.440
<v Speaker 3>I just thought, I know these things are out here.

554
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Let's just got or maybe it's something else. I don't know,

555
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:37.000
<v Speaker 3>but we need to get.

556
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.119
<v Speaker 4>If it's something we've wanted to be big.

557
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 3>But I was just like, I know, we just got

558
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 3>at me here long and we had all the stuff

559
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:46.359
<v Speaker 3>sed up.

560
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:48.640
<v Speaker 4>But oh, my son and I are the same way.

561
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.160
<v Speaker 4>We would trust each other's instincts on that. Now knowing

562
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 4>what you know, now when you know they're out there

563
00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:55.440
<v Speaker 4>when you know it.

564
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had stuff out there. We had actually gotten

565
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.759
<v Speaker 3>one really good picture on the daylight, and I would

566
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 3>think even if we hadn't gotten that, I would think

567
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 3>they'd been there because there's lots of encounters stories all

568
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 3>around the Yeah. So yeah, I know that feeling, and

569
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I haven't had it many times. But when you have it,

570
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 3>you got to listen to it, sir.

571
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:20.279
<v Speaker 4>All right, brother, I appreciate you letting me share my story,

572
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 4>and I've enjoyed hearing y'all stories really refreshing just to

573
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:27.000
<v Speaker 4>get around people that have had the same experience. I've

574
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:31.640
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed looking at your pictures knowing they're authentic. And if

575
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:35.240
<v Speaker 4>you all go out there with good intention because you're

576
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.240
<v Speaker 4>trying to document it, but you're not going to call

577
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.000
<v Speaker 4>in helicopters.

578
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.559
<v Speaker 3>On it, and they know that we're just most of

579
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 3>the time, nothing happens and you go aloft in the

580
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:49.240
<v Speaker 3>right spots. Yeah, we don't have any ill intentions whatso, Yes, sir,

581
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.640
<v Speaker 3>we just enjoy each other's company and maybe something happened,

582
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.440
<v Speaker 3>maybe it won't, probably won't. As you go things happen,

583
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 3>then they happen when you least expect it, Yes, sir, Yeah,

584
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 3>we've had a good time doing this. It's turned into

585
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 3>a long journeys, but a fun one. That's right. That's

586
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.599
<v Speaker 3>exactly right, because it was good to talk. Thank you,

587
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Thank you all right, talk to me brother. Okay. This

588
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 3>happened in twenty fourteen before I met Dwight. I guess

589
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I was just a year into it, and I had

590
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:24.359
<v Speaker 3>a thermal. I had the original Dwight. What model is that?

591
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 3>The Greenman that was the original snout model? Yeah, two

592
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.880
<v Speaker 3>feety six in the right conditions is decent. What we

593
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.400
<v Speaker 3>have now is a whole lot better. But anyway, we

594
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 3>had gone up to Thurman Chatham. There's a hunter safety

595
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 3>area there, or there was. We met. I had found

596
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 3>what I thought was a pretty impressive stick structure up

597
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 3>on the mountain. David Pardue, former BFRO guy, met Susan

598
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:56.359
<v Speaker 3>I up there, and so we hiked up there and

599
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 3>checked it out. It was pretty cool all the way

600
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 3>down we met. So we go back to our camp,

601
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.880
<v Speaker 3>which is down in the valley. There had a little

602
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 3>fire going at that time. I hadn't rigged mine up

603
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 3>to record, but Dave's recorded. Dave Moser, we were sitting

604
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 3>by a little campfire, and Pardu was telling us some stories.

605
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 3>Now he's got some stories. He's got some really good

606
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 3>stories about people that we know. I will call no names,

607
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 3>but he was like, it was pretty good. It was interesting.

608
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 3>It was definitely interesting. So we were sitting around talking

609
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 3>and over to my left, it's dark. We're sitting in

610
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 3>the dark. There's no lights, no electricity out there, nothing,

611
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.880
<v Speaker 3>We had nothing but the little campfire. I saw eye

612
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 3>shine probably twenty yards maybe or real big. I'm not

613
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.119
<v Speaker 3>turning on e lights, and do not point if we

614
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 3>think we see something. Nobody moves. You sit down, you

615
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:53.119
<v Speaker 3>don't get up, you don't look, you just act natural.

616
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 5>So is that the bfros their baseline of what they

617
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 5>want to happen on one of their outings?

618
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think so. I've never been a member, never

619
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 3>been on one of their outings, but I think so.

620
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 3>And they we're big on that, which, okay, I get it.

621
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I agree with all that.

622
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll

623
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.559
<v Speaker 2>be right back after these messages.

624
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 3>So I describe what I'm looking at and they look

625
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.960
<v Speaker 3>and they were like, yeah, there is. So we sit

626
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 3>there and talk about it and Pardieu was facing it

627
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 3>and I had to kind of look this way to

628
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.839
<v Speaker 3>see it, and Susan kind of had to look that way.

629
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 3>It was ease and closer and closer to us. As

630
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.839
<v Speaker 3>we talked. You could tell it was getting closer. It

631
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:46.759
<v Speaker 3>had cover, but it was getting closer and closer. My wife, Susan,

632
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 3>she got nervous. That's probably one of the two times,

633
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 3>and those two times happened to be at that exact

634
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.200
<v Speaker 3>spot years apart. Really got her attention, I'll say that.

635
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.799
<v Speaker 3>So we watched this, we talked about it, and it

636
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:02.559
<v Speaker 3>would ease up, and she was getting nervous because you

637
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 3>could see it. It wasn't no, oh, what is that?

638
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.920
<v Speaker 3>You could see it. So Pardu and Moserr both they

639
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 3>were really good. Yeah, and you can hear it in

640
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 3>that video. We were talking about it was like just really,

641
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 3>they ain't gonna do nothing. They just checking us out.

642
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 3>It's cool, Just be cool. Dave Moser had his thermal

643
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 3>mounted on a pole like a monopod. He had it mounted,

644
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 3>he had audio with it, which was first time I

645
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 3>ever seen by do that, and he could just turn it.

646
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 3>It was a screen. It was like a thermal going

647
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 3>to a screen, so he could turn the thermal and

648
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.400
<v Speaker 3>watch the screen, so he could watch behind him like

649
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:41.759
<v Speaker 3>we do. He could watch behind him without you know, turning. Look.

650
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:44.160
<v Speaker 3>So he finds one over in the bushes over here,

651
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 3>like another one you could kind of look like a

652
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Buddha like sitting on the ground in the brush. And

653
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 3>we watched it. And this went on for hours, and

654
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 3>this one over here we get a little closer and

655
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:58.160
<v Speaker 3>a little closer, and I started to get a little

656
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 3>That was I was only a year in to it,

657
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 3>so I was like, this is crazy. I'm like, I'm

658
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 3>glad they're here. Not that they're going to save my life,

659
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.519
<v Speaker 3>but it makes me feel better. These guys have some experience.

660
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Cardo has a lot of comfort in numbers. Yeah. So

661
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:17.400
<v Speaker 3>we're sitting there watching and the one over here, as

662
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 3>far as I was sitting, the one you could see

663
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 3>was over here. He was watching and from here to

664
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:23.759
<v Speaker 3>the churches where it was sitting in the brush, and

665
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.400
<v Speaker 3>it was a decent size. You could see the head, shoulders,

666
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 3>the hodeel, and you could see it move around. It

667
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 3>was like, this is crazy. There's one over there, and

668
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 3>there's one over there.

669
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 5>So this whole time, let me ask you, the whole

670
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 5>time that you're seeing it, can you visibly see the

671
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 5>eye shine as the eye shine consistent, Yes, the whole time.

672
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 3>The whole time on the one over here.

673
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 5>So you can see the outline of the body moving,

674
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 5>but the whole time the eyes shine is still.

675
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 3>Sharing the whole time, and you could see the eyes moving.

676
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 3>You could see it working its way up slowly, and

677
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, just how close is it going to get?

678
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 3>Because there's a little opening, so it's just outside of

679
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 3>that opening in the brush. But you got to tell

680
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 3>it's like a row of woods that's probably fifteen yards thick,

681
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 3>and then there's this huge field on the other side

682
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 3>of it, and then you got the woods, and then

683
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 3>you got a little where we're camped. We sat there

684
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 3>till four thirty in the morning, watch them the whole time,

685
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 3>until we just got so sleepy that one finally got

686
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:28.559
<v Speaker 3>to a point and didn't come any closer, and we're like,

687
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna turn in, try to grab a little bit asleep.

688
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Christian was with us, he was in the van asleep.

689
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.559
<v Speaker 3>Susan and I threw pitched the tent. They had tents too,

690
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 3>like a little one man tents so they just got

691
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.920
<v Speaker 3>and we just it was really weird Gordon to getting

692
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 3>in that tent thinking there's two big foot it over there. Yeah,

693
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 3>what's gonna happen?

694
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.960
<v Speaker 5>And you've got exactly one millimeter of protection with your tent.

695
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 3>But they weren't throwing anything, they weren't making noises, there

696
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 3>was nothing aggressive about it. And that was one of

697
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 3>the first few times we went to that area. Much

698
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 3>like the field turned out to be. They come through

699
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 3>there a lot. I've got a video of two of them.

700
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:12.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not great video, but you can definitely tell it's

701
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.480
<v Speaker 3>two and that they're coming through here. And then they

702
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 3>stop and they look move around a little bit, and

703
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 3>then they move on off and there's no there was

704
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 3>nobody else out there. You got to know where this is.

705
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.599
<v Speaker 3>This is out there, you've been there, yeah, and there's

706
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.719
<v Speaker 3>nowhere to go. There's creek, there's two good sized creeks

707
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 3>down there. There's just really no for a person to go.

708
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 3>And then it goes straight up a mountain. So that

709
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 3>was pretty good. So the rest of what happened is

710
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 3>we've sleep till probably daylight, probably grabbed a couple hours sleep.

711
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 3>I heard them get up, so we got up. We

712
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 3>sat there in a little minute and made some coffee

713
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 3>and Moser said, let's go over there and where the

714
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.320
<v Speaker 3>one was sitting. Let's go see what we can see.

715
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 3>So we go over there. It's not very far. It's

716
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 3>like print there. So we walk up in there and

717
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.840
<v Speaker 3>there's this big matted down like all the grass and everything.

718
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 3>It's just blat right. You had parked I mean you

719
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 3>had parked pound weight on it. Yeah, that was as

720
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 3>flat could be, right, Not like a deer bed. I've

721
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.840
<v Speaker 3>seen deer beds. This is like a pretty good sized area.

722
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:21.679
<v Speaker 3>That thing had set down there and watched us. It

723
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 3>had eased in and set there. We watched them and

724
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 3>they watched us for hours. Had that happen a few times,

725
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 3>but that was the first time I had seen when

726
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.039
<v Speaker 3>we had our Susan and I had our sighting before that,

727
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 3>and so they're definitely you could see it moving, you

728
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:39.599
<v Speaker 3>could see the head, you could see the body, and

729
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 3>it was set rank there and then it was this

730
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.480
<v Speaker 3>big matted down spot. Other things that have happened in

731
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 3>that exact same spot over the years. Dwight and I

732
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.239
<v Speaker 3>were sleeping in the suburban. I don't know when it

733
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 3>was if it was November. It's cold weather. I mean

734
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.400
<v Speaker 3>it was cold and we sat in the dark. So

735
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:57.719
<v Speaker 3>we had set in the dark for a while. I

736
00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 3>was like, look, I'm getting in the car. So we

737
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 3>got then laid the seats back. It was his January.

738
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was like twenty two degrees outside at least.

739
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 3>It's cold ark. There's no lights that all out there.

740
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 3>So we were in the car sleeping and I heard

741
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 3>this big just you know, like loud. It's like, look like,

742
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.000
<v Speaker 3>what was that. I thought it broke a window or something.

743
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.639
<v Speaker 3>It sounded like something like a car, Wendley. So I'm

744
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 3>looking at I'm like, and then Dwight, here's me moving around.

745
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:29.519
<v Speaker 3>So's something. I was like, man, something just knocked the

746
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.360
<v Speaker 3>hell out inside of the car or somewhere on the car.

747
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 3>And my first instinct was to get out. And then

748
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 3>I thought, I've already seen him here. We've caught stuff

749
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 3>on thermal here several times. Right, you knew better. I

750
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 3>wasn't get to jump up because I couldn't see that.

751
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Speaker 3>I had a headlaut, but you being dude, it was

752
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 3>like I couldn't see him in fren your face, So

753
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I thought, no, I'm not getting out, so I told her,

754
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:56.039
<v Speaker 3>I said, let's just stay till this daylight and before

755
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:59.039
<v Speaker 3>we don't get out, we'll get out at the same time. Yeah,

756
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 3>So woke up with after it gotten light to get

757
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.480
<v Speaker 3>up and I was like, okay, step out really easy,

758
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.239
<v Speaker 3>and let's look for any kind of a print. I

759
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 3>don't know how close it was or if it threw

760
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 3>something or what. I was really expecting to find a

761
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:16.800
<v Speaker 3>DNT or a cracked window or something was last some

762
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 3>major damage. It was loud and it wasn't from us.

763
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 3>It hit the vehicle. We get out and we're easing

764
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 3>around and we're looking. Not really great ground for prints,

765
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 3>and we're looking and we're looking around, and walked around

766
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 3>the Dwight side of the capassenger side of the car.

767
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.559
<v Speaker 3>I looked over it and there was a big ass handprint,

768
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.760
<v Speaker 3>like a dirty handprint under like the back door on

769
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 3>the passenger side, right under the window. And I was like, look,

770
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.800
<v Speaker 3>there's a damn handprint. It was a good sized handprint,

771
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:53.800
<v Speaker 3>I thought. I don't know if he was like using

772
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:56.519
<v Speaker 3>it to steady himself to look in the window, which

773
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Dwight's head was like that far from the handprint because

774
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.760
<v Speaker 3>he had the seat laid back, and I thought, damn right,

775
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 3>that was disclosed while we were sleeping.

776
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 5>Maybe it just wanted to wake y'all up so that

777
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 5>it could see all his actions.

778
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:13.400
<v Speaker 3>It woke us up, It woke me up, and I

779
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 3>woke right up. That was pretty good. And then a

780
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 3>couple of years after that, my wife Susan and I

781
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.400
<v Speaker 3>we took the old Ford van out there. We did

782
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 3>what you and I did one night. We would cover

783
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 3>with dark plastics so they can't see in, and I

784
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 3>mounted my thermal on what do you call that on

785
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 3>a periscope, Yeah, where I could turn it no noise

786
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 3>or anything, and rent it to my laptop. So she

787
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:40.559
<v Speaker 3>and I went up there. We pulled back in this

788
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.519
<v Speaker 3>exact spot and we were just we try to be quiet.

789
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 3>We're listening. She and I were just sitting there. It

790
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 3>was late fall. It was only like eight thirty between

791
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:53.960
<v Speaker 3>eight thirty nine o'clock at and height, but it was dark.

792
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:58.159
<v Speaker 3>It sounded like it was right over Susan's head, is

793
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 3>what it sounded like, hit the top of the van

794
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:06.760
<v Speaker 3>like Pam Pam and I had a little fan because

795
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to run the injine anything that plugs

796
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 3>into the cigarette lighter. And they had a magnetic base.

797
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 3>It was stuck to the ceiling. There's no real headline

798
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 3>or anything in it right behind there, and it knocked

799
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:18.639
<v Speaker 3>it off into the floor.

800
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 5>So the vibration of it hitting the top of the

801
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 5>van knocked that magnetic mount loose.

802
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's a significant one. It's not yeah light, I mean,

803
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.360
<v Speaker 3>but bam, and the fan falls and more like in Susan,

804
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 3>she don't cuss or anything. She looked at me and

805
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.119
<v Speaker 3>she said, what the hell was this? I said, you

806
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 3>know what it was? And it stunned me for many

807
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Speaker 3>It was like and I'm like, holy this the force

808
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 3>of it scared me. It stunns me for a minute.

809
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:49.760
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, what do we do with it? Because

810
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 3>it's just me and her. If it been me and y'all,

811
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 3>not that again, You're gonna save my life. But I

812
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:57.880
<v Speaker 3>feel without it. But it's just me and her. And

813
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 3>we had the doors, like we always locked the doors

814
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 3>because bearskin on the locked door, and there's definitely bears

815
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:05.559
<v Speaker 3>up there. But this is an F two fifty. If

816
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 3>you stand beside it, I'm six feet six one. I

817
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:11.440
<v Speaker 3>can just barely reach the top of the van. I

818
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:13.400
<v Speaker 3>can't even you know what I'm saying. So I had

819
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.440
<v Speaker 3>to have some size to it. Yeah, who knows. And

820
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 3>so I'm sitting there stunned, and I'm thinking, what do

821
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I do? What do I do? Is that a person?

822
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.480
<v Speaker 3>It's probably a squatch? Shit, what are we gonna do?

823
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 3>And then I think, oh, I've got buffalo air running.

824
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't think this was all Within twenty thirty seconds,

825
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I grab it and I turn it and all I

826
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 3>see is something in the you know when you back

827
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 3>up to that spot toward the field side, like the

828
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:47.320
<v Speaker 3>roads right here. I saw something big but not a

829
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.159
<v Speaker 3>good picture go into the bush and I'm like, that

830
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 3>was not a bear. That was not a bear. And

831
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:56.800
<v Speaker 3>then my other thought is what is that a person?

832
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 3>And I thought, well, that's a person. I can definitely

833
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.519
<v Speaker 3>take care of that problem. But I looked around and

834
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:05.440
<v Speaker 3>I was watching where you come in, and there was

835
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:09.039
<v Speaker 3>nobody there. Nobody had pulled in. It's a fairly remote

836
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:12.559
<v Speaker 3>spot and I could see nobody had pulled in, and

837
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking all around. At that time, I really didn't

838
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.480
<v Speaker 3>have a tilt. I just had where I thought I

839
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:19.480
<v Speaker 3>needed to set it, and that's where I set it.

840
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.880
<v Speaker 3>So we waited a little bit, maybe twenty thirty minutes.

841
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I got a peete. So he said, don't

842
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.199
<v Speaker 3>get out, please, don't get this, and I'm like, I'm

843
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 3>just gonna step out right here. I got my light,

844
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 3>I turned the lights on in the van, like the headlights,

845
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 3>stepped right outside the door pee and got back in.

846
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, you know how you do?

847
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 1>You know?

848
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Like?

849
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<v Speaker 3>And I thought I had made a mistake. On the

850
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<v Speaker 3>windows of the van. I put on the side doors,

851
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:54.719
<v Speaker 3>passinger door and the driver's door. I put that heavy,

852
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 3>thick meal black plastic on the inside, right, but on

853
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 3>the windshield it's easier to put it on the outside.

854
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:03.679
<v Speaker 3>Put a little piece of tape on, a little piece

855
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 3>of tape on it. When show wipers that we're good

856
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 3>barring some crazy winter. Yeah, And I thought I've covered

857
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 3>the windshield up. But then I thought, so I turned

858
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.840
<v Speaker 3>the fleer around there, and I thought I can get

859
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.400
<v Speaker 3>out of here using that fleir watch the fleer.

860
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<v Speaker 5>And so in your thought process, you're like, I can

861
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 5>leave the black plastic up for driving because you didn't

862
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 5>need that. You can still navigate with your thermal through

863
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.679
<v Speaker 5>the trees, through the trees and down the road. At

864
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 5>least get to the road, just to get at least

865
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<v Speaker 5>get to the road.

866
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<v Speaker 3>And then I can open up and I can yank

867
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 3>it off if I had to stand up and reach

868
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:42.440
<v Speaker 3>around and yank it off. And Susan was like, mental note,

869
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<v Speaker 3>don't put the plastic on the out But I have

870
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:48.880
<v Speaker 3>done that since on the outside because it's easier. Yeah,

871
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:50.440
<v Speaker 3>And then we sat there the rest of the night.

872
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 3>We spent the night. Nothing else happened that I can

873
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:58.519
<v Speaker 3>remember on that trip. So we saw the two. Dwight's

874
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.239
<v Speaker 3>got a thermal that he sent me the other day

875
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.639
<v Speaker 3>that I don't remember seeing, but maybe I did see it.

876
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 3>It's not the exact spot, but it's from here to

877
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 3>the other side of a little circle here. It's close.

878
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I've got a thermal of two of them. I've got

879
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 3>a thermal it looks like two standing back in the woods.

880
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 3>And then I've got a thermal. Do you remember that

881
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 3>thermal I posted while back? Me and you were there

882
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 3>and I set it was the bushnail like vision. I

883
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 3>set it up on the tripod, that tripod as high

884
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 3>as I could get it right, and I just pointed

885
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 3>into the woods and from where this thing was standing

886
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 3>where we were sitting, to where it was standing was

887
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 3>probably eight yards, but it was in the woods, inside

888
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:48.119
<v Speaker 3>the woodline, and you can see it looks like it's

889
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 3>got a snout and you can just barely see it.

890
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 3>It turned its head a little bit. It's not great,

891
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:56.000
<v Speaker 3>but you can see it. If you scrub back and

892
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:57.519
<v Speaker 3>forth through it, you can see it, and that it

893
00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:58.199
<v Speaker 3>moves its head.

894
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 5>That just goes to prove that if you're a stationary

895
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 5>like that and you give them enough time, they will

896
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<v Speaker 5>come towards you and approach you.

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<v Speaker 6>That's our whole thing, that's my whole thing. Neverth
