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<v Speaker 1>In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show.

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<v Speaker 2>As the clock strikes thirteen, it's Wednesday, the seventh of

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<v Speaker 2>May of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. Well, today begins

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<v Speaker 2>real id and of course they're saying they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make some concessions, a lot of extra paperwork if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have it. But this goes back, of course, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're also going to be talking about how we laid

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<v Speaker 2>the foundation for this police state. The real Idea law

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to two thousand and five when they did

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<v Speaker 2>the prep Act. But today we're going to have as

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<v Speaker 2>our guest in the third hour, Chris Emory, his documentary

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<v Speaker 2>that's been around for about a decade, a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more than a decade. They now have some new information

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<v Speaker 2>about the Oklahoma City bombing. I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>find it a fascinating refresher course for what was before

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven the biggest terrorist attack on American soil,

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<v Speaker 2>both it and nine to eleven terrorist attacks done by

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<v Speaker 2>our government. A lot of information pointing to that. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be joining us in the third hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We have an interview that recorded yesterday, so I know

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<v Speaker 2>how good it is. You want to hang around for that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back. We're also going to have an

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<v Speaker 2>update as to the amazing pump and dump grift in

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump meme coin. The numbers are staggering, the number

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<v Speaker 2>of people who lost money and the few who made

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<v Speaker 2>an astounding, astronomical amount of money. Well, let's talk first

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<v Speaker 2>about the federal real ID. And as I said before,

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<v Speaker 2>this goes back to two thousand and five. This is

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<v Speaker 2>when we had started having all of the legislation for

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<v Speaker 2>the police state, police and surveillance state, and the aftermath

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<v Speaker 2>of nine to eleven, and in the aftermath of the

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<v Speaker 2>commission that was there to study it. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 2>was not there to do it cover up, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was there to recommend the next steps to be taken

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<v Speaker 2>based on that phony event. No people died. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying that the phony explanation that they had for federal

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<v Speaker 2>real ID requirements take effect today. As airport worries grow,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll have enhanced security features. Of course, on these real IDs,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got barcodes, holograms, all these things supposedly for anti counterfeiting.

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<v Speaker 2>And even though this has been delayed, it was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to go into effect in two thousand and eight, has

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<v Speaker 2>been delayed because we don't want an ID, But they're

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<v Speaker 2>busy working on implementing the digital ID. That's what the

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<v Speaker 2>digital cache is about, That's what the stable coins are about,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what the crypto is about. All of it is

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<v Speaker 2>about setting up a digital ID with biometrics on it

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So in a sense, this real ID is

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<v Speaker 2>very antiquated, but the concerns are the same and the

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<v Speaker 2>motivations are the same. So beginning today, to get onto

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<v Speaker 2>a domestic flight to enter secure federal facilities, why would

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<v Speaker 2>you ever want to do that voluntarily? Or to access

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<v Speaker 2>certain military bases after the deadline has been pushed back

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times over a twenty year period. The requirement of

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<v Speaker 2>real ID comes from twenty years ago, the Commission on

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven, and they said, well, we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>make IDs harder to fake. What about that ID that

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<v Speaker 2>they found on the pile of the rubble therey. We're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to believe that you had this massive airplane crash,

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<v Speaker 2>fires and all the rest of the stuff, and somebody

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly found that ID on the ground handed it over

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<v Speaker 2>to the New York Police Department as an ID for

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<v Speaker 2>Satam al Suquami. Yeah, yeah, nothing suspicious about that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about fake IDs? I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>can the real ID survive an airplane fire? Is ow,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what they're requiring it on airplanes now, So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be able to go through and get everybody's ID after

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<v Speaker 2>they have crashed the black box ID. But again, this

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<v Speaker 2>is going back to two thousand and five, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course as part of that legislative suite, they put in

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<v Speaker 2>the PREP Act, that notorious bomination that says that you

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<v Speaker 2>can't get any compensation for what they do to you

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<v Speaker 2>with emergency vaccines. The PREP Act even worse than the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty six Childhood Vaccine Act that fact sheet pushed through.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the rush of nine to eleven. Well, Christinoham says,

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<v Speaker 2>travelers with no real ID can still fly for now,

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<v Speaker 2>for now. Isn't that nice? How nice of her? But

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be having to take extra steps, says the Homeland

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<v Speaker 2>Security head who likes to play dress up. You'll still

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<v Speaker 2>be able to fly, but you have to be prepared

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<v Speaker 2>for extra scrutiny, because you know, you have to prove

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<v Speaker 2>that you're not a terrorist, got to prove it, got

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<v Speaker 2>to prove it to fly amazing. I'm just so done

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<v Speaker 2>with airports and airplanes. I hope I never have to

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<v Speaker 2>fly again. You may be diverted into a different line,

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<v Speaker 2>and you may have to take extra steps, but people

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<v Speaker 2>will now still be allowed to fly for now. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course the extra steps are a lot of forms

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<v Speaker 2>from your government. These ideas keep our country safe. She said, No,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know. They don't. Neither does she Neither is

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<v Speaker 2>homeland security. They don't keep us safe. But did you

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<v Speaker 2>get a goal star reminiscent of the Nazi government. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like an attack on everyday, people, said one person

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<v Speaker 2>having to upgrade their licenses, all this identification for something that, really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, seems like we've been fine without it. We'd

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<v Speaker 2>be much better off without the government pushing it. We'd

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<v Speaker 2>be much better off without the government that pushes it.

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<v Speaker 2>Travelers without real ID can use their passport. But even

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<v Speaker 2>with that, there's still alternatives for the new requirements. So

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<v Speaker 2>even if you don't have a passport, you can fill

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<v Speaker 2>out a Transportation Security Administration Form one four one five,

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<v Speaker 2>also known as the Certification of Identity Form, and if

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<v Speaker 2>if the TSA official is able to confirm the details

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<v Speaker 2>given to them. Passengers will be allowed to go through

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<v Speaker 2>the security checkpoints and board their flights. Passengers who go

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<v Speaker 2>this route may be subject to additional pack downs and

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<v Speaker 2>screenings and questions and other extra security. You know, when

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons I hate flying is because I

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely refuse to use these machines. Means out of principle,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily I don't know what they're doing physically medically

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<v Speaker 2>to you, but I refuse out of principle to use them.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we would travel, even so, I always go

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<v Speaker 2>through the pack down stuff. And you know, the little

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<v Speaker 2>game that they like to do with me is they

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<v Speaker 2>like to make me stand next to the X ray machine,

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<v Speaker 2>which I also refuse to do. Is it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful experience. They want me to stand next to the

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<v Speaker 2>X ray machine because I don't want to go through

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<v Speaker 2>the scanner and I refuse to stand next to X

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<v Speaker 2>ray machine. And when I travel with my family, one

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<v Speaker 2>time when we went up to Washington State, we came

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<v Speaker 2>back and we all opt out, and so the one

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<v Speaker 2>guy says, let's just go, you know, just let you through, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was all family and we're all opting out

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<v Speaker 2>of it and everything except Travis got in a different

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<v Speaker 2>line and they put him over on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did give him the full pack down treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course I videotape that right the phone, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm making a video of it. And the guy

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<v Speaker 2>gets really upset. He said, I just let you through,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you do this to us. And I turned

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<v Speaker 2>the camera on him and I said, you haven't done

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<v Speaker 2>me or my family a favor at all. We're Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't deserve to be treated like criminals, like we

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<v Speaker 2>live in a Nazi country. Your identity papers. Please show

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<v Speaker 2>me identity papers, right, Nazi occupied America, that's what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not doing me a favor to let me through.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, if I keep flying, I'm gonna get arrested

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<v Speaker 2>because they keep getting worse airport detentions. Have travelers freaked out?

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<v Speaker 2>Says the Atlantic freaks me out. Certainly does, because I

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<v Speaker 2>know where all this stuff came from. I know about

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<v Speaker 2>the underwear bomber. I mean you know about that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't they remember the lawyer's name. I interviewed him

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<v Speaker 2>several times. There was a lawyer who you know this

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<v Speaker 2>under dishoveled guy was a lawyer who was coming back

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<v Speaker 2>on the plane. They're coming from abroad. His name was Haskellne.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's now out of the country. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's living in Panama. He must be really happy with

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<v Speaker 2>a Trump moves about Panama. Anyway, he was a lawyer

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<v Speaker 2>and he noticed in this foreign country. He's sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and this really disheveled guy comes up and he's accompanied

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<v Speaker 2>by guy that is very sharply dressed in a suit

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<v Speaker 2>and all the rest of this stuff. And the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's in the suit talks to the attendant there to

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<v Speaker 2>check this person in or whatever, and the other guy

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of like out of it, right, that's really strange.

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<v Speaker 2>He's looking at how strange that is. And so then

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<v Speaker 2>they get on the plane and this guy is setting

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<v Speaker 2>up a couple of rows in front of him. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the guy, you know. And so he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>watching this guy because it's like, what is this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he a criminal or something? He's he got a

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<v Speaker 2>guy in a suit escorting him. The way he's dressed me,

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<v Speaker 2>he looks like a homeless guy. They just drug off

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<v Speaker 2>the street. And then in the flight, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy tries to you know, set his underwear on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it was that he did, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the pretense for them to put in the scanners. It

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<v Speaker 2>was so funny that American carol that was done by

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<v Speaker 2>the Zuckerberg uh was Zuker brothers, I think comedy, and

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<v Speaker 2>they had predicted this whole thing with absurdity. As people

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<v Speaker 2>going through the security, they having to take well, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to take this off now because this mom or

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<v Speaker 2>and this moment I think that was before all that

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<v Speaker 2>if I remember correctly, but whether it was before it

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<v Speaker 2>or after, it certainly was an accurate satire. Anyway, he

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<v Speaker 2>sees this guy doing this and he wanted to testify

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<v Speaker 2>and say this whole thing was a setup. And this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's lawyer wanted him to testify, he said, and of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the witness was a lawyer himself. What they

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<v Speaker 2>did was the guy used the fact that this very

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<v Speaker 2>credible witness, a lawyer himself, had seen this whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>set up and knew it was a setup and was

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell people it was a setup. And the

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<v Speaker 2>other lawyer, lawyer for the guy that was the supposed

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<v Speaker 2>underwear bomber, used that as leverage to get a favorable

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<v Speaker 2>plea bargain for his client and not go to court.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was really bummed out about that because he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted the truth to come out. So he's going on

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of alternative media. I interviewed him twice. So

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<v Speaker 2>the interesting thing about it is, of course that chert Off,

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<v Speaker 2>the first head of Homeland Security, had left the government

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<v Speaker 2>at that point in time, was working with a company

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<v Speaker 2>that was ready to roll out these body scanners. They

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<v Speaker 2>had him all manufactured and waiting to roll out. This

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<v Speaker 2>all happened on Christmas holidays right and the following Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a boycott of the of the scanner machines

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<v Speaker 2>that was organized and we heavily promoted it at Info Wars.

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<v Speaker 2>And in response to this organized boycott on the heaviest

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<v Speaker 2>travel day of the year around Thanksgiving, they just shut

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<v Speaker 2>down all the machines and all the scanning and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Just let everybody go through no problem, because they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to lose that pushback from citizens. They didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>people to feel how powerful they were. But you it

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<v Speaker 2>was in response to the citizens they did surrender that

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<v Speaker 2>and it showed that all of this stuff is a fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course we have seen over and over again

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<v Speaker 2>do that with immunity, but they won't do it. They

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<v Speaker 2>because they're totally ineffective their measures. If you've got something

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<v Speaker 2>real threat out there, we would have already had some attacks.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course one of the other pushbacks against this

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<v Speaker 2>discovery he got information with internal TSA documents. Now, the

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<v Speaker 2>there was a fight the Texas legislature to stop the

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<v Speaker 2>TSA from doing the patdown of children. It was put

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<v Speaker 2>longer in the legislature, of course, and he put out

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<v Speaker 2>and they said, you're not going to do that. And

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<v Speaker 2>when it went to the Senate, it got shut down

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<v Speaker 2>And he spent more money getting elected as lieutenant governor

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<v Speaker 2>for office in Texas. He shut it down. They did

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<v Speaker 2>a second time, and again it passed not unanimously that time,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were able to shut it down a second time.

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<v Speaker 2>As all that was happening in twenty eleven. This document

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<v Speaker 2>the surfaced is part of this lawsuit that they published

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<v Speaker 2>and redacted, then put up the redacted version of it later.

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<v Speaker 2>That document said in twenty eleven, when they were threatening

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<v Speaker 2>to turn they said, you pass that, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>government and what that said was that there was no

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<v Speaker 2>The TSA's own assessment said there was no threat to

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<v Speaker 2>either airports or airplanes in that document. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>we know that because we know how ineffective their measures are.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you bunch everybody up for the sake

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<v Speaker 2>of security, what you've done is you created a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>terrorist opportunity. We know this just from common sense. We

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<v Speaker 2>know it from security people. They said, you bunch everybody

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<v Speaker 2>up at a checkpoint, terrorists will just bomb them there, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen that happen and in countries where you

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<v Speaker 2>have people in the church, won't get airport type security

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<v Speaker 2>bag checks all the rest of the stuff and bunches

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<v Speaker 2>everybody up. And so what the terrorists do, They set

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<v Speaker 2>the bomb off at that location. So airport attentions have

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<v Speaker 2>travelers freaked out, says The Atlantic. Now they're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>predominantly people who are immigrants or visitors or whatever. They

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<v Speaker 2>might have green cards that are legal, but that doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 2>not with the new border patrol and customs, right they

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<v Speaker 2>So the anxiety is not limited immigration lawyers. Ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>summer travel season, online message boards have been humming with

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<v Speaker 2>vacation worries. Users are telling one another to delete social

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<v Speaker 2>media accounts on their devices, turn off facial recognition features

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<v Speaker 2>to make it harder for officers to gain access and

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<v Speaker 2>pack photo copies of their personal documents such as birth

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<v Speaker 2>and marriage certificates. This is what we have to do

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<v Speaker 2>to travel. I blame the license license to drive stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's part of where the slope was to going back

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<v Speaker 2>even before this deliberate police state stuff, the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have to have the government's permission to travel.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people are sovereign citizens who say, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm driving for commercial purposes, you can regulate me. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I am traveling and i'm traveling, I'm not here

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<v Speaker 2>for hire. I'm not making a living doing this. You

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<v Speaker 2>have no right to require a driver's license. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>legally there, one hundred percent right. But just like all

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of this stuff, we our court system is

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<v Speaker 2>so corrupt they're not interested in hearing legal arguments. I

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<v Speaker 2>have known people who've been tax protesters and said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, here, according to this, blah blah blah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and the judge says, you're not going to talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you continue to talking about I'll hold you

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<v Speaker 2>in contempt. Next go to your next thing and shut

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<v Speaker 2>down one after the other. Any arguments, they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to anything, not going to let the jury

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<v Speaker 2>hear any evidence against that. That's the way air court

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<v Speaker 2>systems are. I've seen it over and over again in

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<v Speaker 2>any not just in tax is not just an identification

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<v Speaker 2>or driving. I've seen it with everything, everything that they do,

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<v Speaker 2>if it has something to do with their power. In March,

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<v Speaker 2>a German born New Hampshire resident arriving at Boston's Logan

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<v Speaker 2>Airport was arrested in jailed now faces deportation over a

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<v Speaker 2>years old marijuana charge. A Canadian woman detained at a

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<v Speaker 2>southern California border crossing spent two weeks in a grim

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<v Speaker 2>immigration and customs enforcement lock up. A Green card holder

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<v Speaker 2>from Ireland who has lived in the United States for

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<v Speaker 2>forty years, was taken into custody last month in San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco in a national airport because of drug convictions that

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<v Speaker 2>had been expunged from her record. She is still in

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<v Speaker 2>ice custody and faces deportation. There's also the story that

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<v Speaker 2>I told about the two German teen girls that were

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<v Speaker 2>backpacking around the world and when they got to Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>The Customs and Border Patrol people wanted to know where

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<v Speaker 2>they were staying, what hotel was like, We're not staying

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<v Speaker 2>in hotel, we're backpacking. And they arrested them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they put these two girls in shackles, kept them in

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<v Speaker 2>lock up with some dangerous people for a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>and then put them in shackles again and took them

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<v Speaker 2>to the airport and send them out of the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Our country is getting crazy, folks. You can argue all

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<v Speaker 2>you want about justification for this and exceptions for this,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're okay because Trump's in order office and all

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of this stuff. No, no, and it's both.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just Trump, it's Trump Democrats, all of them,

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<v Speaker 2>all of them. Lawyers say that their clients foreign citizens

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<v Speaker 2>residing abroad or Green card holders living in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Even some US citizens are worried that their interaction with

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<v Speaker 2>the border patrol officers station at airports and border crossings

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<v Speaker 2>will end badly. David Fishman, a travel consultant in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>says he will tell anxious travelers and when they're planning

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<v Speaker 2>the vacations, consider booking a domestic trip instead of going

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<v Speaker 2>abroad if only for peace of mind. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you stay within the continental United States, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>even going to Hawaii, he says, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about border patrol. You don't have to have a

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<v Speaker 2>face to face with them, not yet anyway, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>you understand transportation. The TSA is about transportation, not about airports.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Transportation Security Administration or agency or whatever it's called.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about transportation. And they've tried in the past to

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<v Speaker 2>all this kind of stuff out on domestic bus travel,

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<v Speaker 2>greyhound travel, things like that. Are trains, it's coming and

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of the reasons why they want to push

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<v Speaker 2>these fifteen minute cities and these you know, the cars

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<v Speaker 2>that Elon, Musk and Uber and all the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>them are going to rent to you by the ride,

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<v Speaker 2>is because they don't want you traveling without their permission.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about the ID. Although US citizens cannot be

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<v Speaker 2>denied entry into the US, all other categories of non citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>even in some cases legal permanent residents with green cards,

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<v Speaker 2>are at risk of being denied entry are deemed inadmissible

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<v Speaker 2>by a Customs and Border Patrol officer. Well, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break. When we come back, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the you know, we've talked in the

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<v Speaker 2>past about the billionaire sports stadiums, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the billionaire data centers. What an astounding ripoff

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<v Speaker 2>that is even worse than the sports stadiums, not nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as entertaining either, And so we will talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll talk about how the only success that people

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<v Speaker 2>and there are some groups that are helping people to

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<v Speaker 1>Analyzing the globalists. Next move. And now the deep and nutshell.

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<v Speaker 2>On rumble t Norman Artist says, real id murder jab

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<v Speaker 2>sprang us like bugs every day. Our government hates us

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<v Speaker 2>and wants to kill us all. You're absolutely right, certainly

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<v Speaker 2>people who run it for the top down. On rumble

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<v Speaker 2>Wally Walras says, I don't fly anymore anyway. I got

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<v Speaker 2>robbed at PDX Airport for five thousand dollars in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't flown since. I'm assuming that was the so

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<v Speaker 2>called civil asset forfeiture where they take your cash because

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<v Speaker 2>you know cash is a crime, and don't charge you

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<v Speaker 2>whether they're breaking the law. That's where the civil comes in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not a law. This is a rule passed

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<v Speaker 2>by the regulatory agencies. Therefore, you have no due process.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have to charge and convict you before we

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<v Speaker 2>take your assets. We just take them. We just steal it,

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<v Speaker 2>and we call it civil asset forfeiture. One. What an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing euphemism that is. Anyway, on rumble KWD sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump said, Doge found something unbelievable that was two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but that on the list of all the other non

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<v Speaker 2>delivered daily mouth diarrhea on rumble so I went Goy said,

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to need permits to leave our pods

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fifty, Well, that would be a definitive Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they get us in pods, they won't have us locked down.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what this is all a task for. And

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<v Speaker 2>so part of that, you know, tying in with all

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<v Speaker 2>this real idea and all the rest of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>is there a desire to have these big data centers.

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<v Speaker 2>The big data centers are going to be necessary for

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<v Speaker 2>them to do all of this analysis of us real

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<v Speaker 2>time analysis store all the information then, of course to

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<v Speaker 2>propagandize us and to lie to us about all this.

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<v Speaker 2>The new stadium scam is a server farm. This is

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<v Speaker 2>from reason local governments love giving sweetheart deals to billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar companies and now data centers instead of football stadiums.

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked about that. I did a report on this,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first reports I did in for Wards

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<v Speaker 2>back in twenty twelve. I think I talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>what was then. Well, it still is an astronomical sum,

420
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<v Speaker 2>but they've gotten much more ludicrous amounts on the subsidies

421
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<v Speaker 2>for these sports stadiums. They give massive subsidies to billionaires

422
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<v Speaker 2>so that we can all watch millionaires play a boys

423
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<v Speaker 2>game in the stadium. I don't care what they do,

424
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<v Speaker 2>but they ought to pay for their own business and

425
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:15.400
<v Speaker 2>their own stadium. But now the big grift is that

426
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to subsidize heavily these big tech companies so

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<v Speaker 2>they can come in with a big data center. Laporte, Indiana,

428
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<v Speaker 2>a small city between South Bend, Indiana Chicago, Illinois. A

429
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<v Speaker 2>recent announcement that Microsoft is investing over a billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>into a vast new data center campus in Laporte is

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<v Speaker 2>expected to be transformational for the town of only twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand people what they need, and again it's locally organizing.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Is how you're going to stop stuff like this. These

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<v Speaker 2>local officials are out of their mind if they want

435
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<v Speaker 2>this or they're being paid off. Microsoft was given a

436
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<v Speaker 2>forty year tax abatement on equipment, a renewable state sales

437
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<v Speaker 2>tax exemption through two thousand and sixty eight forty three years,

438
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<v Speaker 2>and just two and a half million dollars worth of

439
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<v Speaker 2>payments in lieu of taxes over four years, about a

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<v Speaker 2>third of what it would normally be after that nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Local utilities also will cover the cost of the infrastructure

442
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>and pass it on to the people who buy electricity.

443
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Just sixty miles up the toll road, the toll road

444
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<v Speaker 2>sits Soldier Field, home of the Chicago Bears. The stadium's

445
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.559
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two post modern renovation cost five hundred

446
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<v Speaker 2>and eighty six million dollars, three hundred and eighty seven

447
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>million of which was shouldered by the taxpayers. That's two thirds,

448
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 2>two thirds of over a half billion dollars was paid

449
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<v Speaker 2>for by the taxpayers. Chicago only has six hundred and

450
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<v Speaker 2>forty million dollars left to pay, and the Bears are

451
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<v Speaker 2>now threatening to And how did it get up to

452
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 2>six hundred and forty million dollars well with interest two

453
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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty six million dollars in interest. So cities

454
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<v Speaker 2>of long bankroll stadiums for billionaire team owners, while promising

455
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<v Speaker 2>taxpayer jobs, tourists, tourism and civic pride and maybe even

456
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<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl. They say, the results almost uniformly dismal.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Here they are from Cincinnati, Miami, Saint Louis, Charlotte, North Carolina.

458
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Bengals left Hamilton County, Ohio, buried in debt and

459
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 2>bled obligated to fund high tech upgrades just to keep pace.

460
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<v Speaker 2>In Miami, they spent half a billion dollars in public

461
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<v Speaker 2>funds on a baseball stadium for the Marlins, only to

462
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<v Speaker 2>see the Attendants collapse and the team gut it. Saint

463
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<v Speaker 2>Louis Is still only to still paying off the Edward

464
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<v Speaker 2>Jones Dome, even after the Rams skipped town for Sunnier La.

465
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<v Speaker 2>So the team's gone and they're still paying for the

466
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<v Speaker 2>stadium in Saint Louis. In Charlotte, North Carolina, the latest

467
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>edition of this Hall of Shame. After handing out six

468
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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty million dollars in tourism taxes to renovate

469
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<v Speaker 2>Bank of America stadium, earning them the quote worst economic

470
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<v Speaker 2>development deal of the year un quote distinction from the

471
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Center for Economic Accountability. But now we move to the

472
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>server farms because it's not about fun and games anymore.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Now they get serious in terms of watching us. Just

474
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>as bad for taxpayers. Small towns and not a few

475
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>big ones are bending over backward to lure data centers.

476
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Local economic development officials tilt the scales, suspend the rules,

477
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 2>give away the farm. Says reason. Well, I say it'll

478
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>create jobs. It'll put us on the map. It's worth

479
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:58.799
<v Speaker 2>the investment. Well, you know, so does small businesses. Great jobs,

480
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>but they don't get any breaks. First, there's the infrastructure issue.

481
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Data centers demand massive utility upgrades power lines, substations, water lines, fiber,

482
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 2>and roads. These are usually paid for by local utilities,

483
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>by state infrastructure grants, or by rate payers. In Kansas City,

484
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Evergy announced that it would build two new power plants,

485
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<v Speaker 2>largely to meet data center demand, costs that would be

486
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<v Speaker 2>passed on to customers. In Northern Virginia, Dominion Energies data

487
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:39.119
<v Speaker 2>center grid upgrades are now a line item and a

488
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<v Speaker 2>state wine electric rate hike in Virginia. State wide, they

489
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<v Speaker 2>put it in as a line item. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay if you put in a line item expense, as

491
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<v Speaker 2>long as it's not one of Trump's tariffs. Right, Amazon

492
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>got in trouble with that. You do that, you are

493
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<v Speaker 2>a Chinese propagandist. According to Caro Lying Life, it don't

494
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 2>tell people where this extra fee is coming from. Keep

495
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:11.240
<v Speaker 2>them in the dark, or we'll call you a communist propagandist. Next,

496
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>there's tax increment financing amount Pleasant Wisconsin. Microsoft got a

497
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>deal that allows a company to recapture up to forty

498
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<v Speaker 2>two percent of its own property taxes, not only avoiding

499
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 2>taxes but being reimbursed with public dollars. I tell you

500
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<v Speaker 2>Microsoft is doing the deals, aren't they? There's always been

501
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>about their political connections. These deals are struck behind closed doors,

502
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.759
<v Speaker 2>insulated from scrutiny, built on the assumption that any growth

503
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 2>is good, even if it's paid for by taking your

504
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>neighbor's wallet. Ana let's project that data center capacity will

505
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.079
<v Speaker 2>more than triple by twenty thirty and five years. Five

506
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 2>years the estimate that the US will need to reach thirty

507
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 2>five gigawatts of capacity by then, double today's total. As

508
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 2>jiggaw smarty right back to the futility of the utilities.

509
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<v Speaker 2>The surge is largely driven by artificial intelligence, which alone

510
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<v Speaker 2>accounts for seventy five percent of all data center demand

511
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<v Speaker 2>that they make by twenty thirty. So they got a

512
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<v Speaker 2>double it and seventy percent of that is going to

513
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 2>be AI. These facilities listen to this already draw more

514
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 2>electricity than some nations, some nations, and Goldman Sachs projects

515
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 2>that they will consume up to nine percent of US

516
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<v Speaker 2>power by twenty thirty. Because AI is there to spy

517
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<v Speaker 2>and to lie. That's what it's about. Spying and line

518
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and if you're going to spy in line of people,

519
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>all the government's got a blank check for you. Nothing

520
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>is too much. So how do we stop this? Well,

521
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Futurism had an interesting article. It's kind of a tech site.

522
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.800
<v Speaker 2>They said, small towns are rising up against these AI

523
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 2>data centers. We don't want to be the next data

524
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:18.760
<v Speaker 2>center alley. And that's the big corridor that's there in Virginia.

525
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<v Speaker 2>As AI creeps further into our lives, so do the

526
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.639
<v Speaker 2>hulking data centers that power it, but not everyone is

527
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 2>stoked about their neighbors bulky, noisy, and they hog resources

528
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>like electricity to staggering scale. They place a huge burden

529
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 2>on the local power grids and on water that were

530
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 2>only designed for small town homes, not state of the

531
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 2>art industrial facilities. But of course we've seen this for

532
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 2>a long time. You know, the NSA had two big

533
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<v Speaker 2>data facilities, one of them back east of the Washington area.

534
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 2>The other one they put out in Bluffdale, Utah, years ago.

535
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they're busy keeping copies of everything that

536
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 2>goes on on the Internet so that when they get

537
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>fast enough computers, quantum computing or something like that, they'll

538
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.599
<v Speaker 2>be able to go back and data mind that and

539
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 2>pigeonhole every one of us. And so they put that

540
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:18.199
<v Speaker 2>the one that's out west in Bluffed All, Utah. They

541
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<v Speaker 2>put that out in the middle of the desert. He

542
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>uses more water than a city and more power as well.

543
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 2>But they don't care about any of that stuff. Money

544
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:32.320
<v Speaker 2>is no object for the federal Empire. It just conjures

545
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 2>it up out of thin air, and neither party cares

546
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 2>about balancing this stuff. It's all nonsense. I mean Trump

547
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>let them take the debt ceiling off for two years

548
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 2>through a temper tantrum when Johnson didn't get that through.

549
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to balance the budget, doesn't want to

550
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>reduce spending. He wants the ceiling taken off. There hasn't

551
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 2>been any real cuts proposed. You know, Elon Musk is

552
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.599
<v Speaker 2>bragging about how and sixty five billion dollars that he's

553
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 2>taken out. That's nothing, really and those cuts are not

554
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>real either. They're not. They're still being litigated. In most cases,

555
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 2>most of these things aren't. They've given extra bonuses to

556
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of federal employees to take early retirement, but

557
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>other than that, not any real quote unquote cost savings,

558
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 2>and that was very expensive to do that. Hyper scale

559
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:29.880
<v Speaker 2>data centers bring few benefits to communities, said a grassroots

560
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:34.440
<v Speaker 2>campaign that has successfully repulsed a data center in their area.

561
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 2>It's called peaceful peculiar because they're in peculiar Missouri. I

562
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>live in peculiar. Dozens of communities around the nation severely

563
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:55.320
<v Speaker 2>struggle from the presence of data centers. It's only about

564
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.440
<v Speaker 2>maximizing their profits, so they choose properties as close as

565
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 2>possible to a large power supply. Now this group has

566
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<v Speaker 2>a Facebook page. It's called Don't Dump Data on Peculiar,

567
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 2>and they welcomed input. They so they put up a

568
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<v Speaker 2>Facebook page and they said, please tell us if you're

569
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<v Speaker 2>an activist or an organizer in other communities and you've

570
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<v Speaker 2>been fighting this grift from the data centers. I think

571
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who helped them. And it's a

572
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>good model for this because if we do this on

573
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<v Speaker 2>many other issues. I think, you know, these things can

574
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<v Speaker 2>only be stopped. If they're going to be stopped, they're

575
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>only going to be stopped at the local level. What works, well,

576
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 2>we need to start coordinating that. Maybe you know, Facebook

577
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 2>will let you do that. They did in this particular case.

578
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<v Speaker 2>And so there was a company called let's see what

579
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<v Speaker 2>is it, it was called diode Ventures diode Ventures, and

580
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 2>they switched them off. I guess they switched off that

581
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>diode facility. Now, after successfully fighting off the diode facility

582
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 2>last October, the organizers of Peculiar have become a resource

583
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 2>now to fellow activists as far away as Indiana, Idaho, Georgia,

584
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 2>and Texas. So people started pulling their their what they

585
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.199
<v Speaker 2>were doing to slow these things down or stop them.

586
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>They stopped it, so now that's become another resource. We

587
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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be the next Data Center Alley, said

588
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 2>an organizer from Indiana. That is a nickname given to

589
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.119
<v Speaker 2>a stretch of land at northern Virginia home to over

590
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.880
<v Speaker 2>fifty of the facilities, with many more on the way.

591
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Data Center Alley is a cautionary tale helping to fuel

592
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the loose, pay it forward style of campaigning in Indiana.

593
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Speaker 2>They found that out of thirty ongoing proposals, two were

594
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<v Speaker 2>repelled in the last month alone, on top of five

595
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.280
<v Speaker 2>more rejections in the past year. That's all despite a

596
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 2>corporate friend league governor with generous tax incentives offered by

597
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:09.440
<v Speaker 2>state lawmakers. Local residents themselves, not larger groups, are proving

598
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>to be the most effective line or defense against the

599
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.119
<v Speaker 2>looming threat of data center development. That's always going to

600
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<v Speaker 2>be our solution, Our solution to big government, to corporate fascism,

601
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 2>a merger of government and corporations is going to be

602
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<v Speaker 2>organizing at the local level. This is a great example

603
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 2>of it, and so we're building our tools to help

604
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.679
<v Speaker 2>local folks feel like they have the knowledge and the

605
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>resources to be able to engage at these local levels.

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<v Speaker 2>So an organizer with Citizens' Action Coalition, when we have

607
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<v Speaker 2>several dozen data center proposals in the state of Indiana

608
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<v Speaker 2>more coming, a small organization like ours can't be there

609
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<v Speaker 2>for each individual fight. So they realize that the power

610
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 2>is in decentralizing and the power is in getting people

611
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.400
<v Speaker 2>connected and organized at the local level about things that

612
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>are going to direct affect them. So how is this

613
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:04.840
<v Speaker 2>data going to be used? Well, we already know it's

614
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the government. It's going to use it to spy on us,

615
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.559
<v Speaker 2>and they also use it to lie to us, to

616
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 2>push us with propaganda one way or the other, to

617
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>gaslight us. Palenteer partnering with the Department of Defense on

618
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<v Speaker 2>the controversial AI project called Maven. This is a merger,

619
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<v Speaker 2>of course. Palenteer is a merger in a sense of AI.

620
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<v Speaker 2>In the older sense, AI was anticipatory intelligence, which they

621
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<v Speaker 2>could they can infer a lot of things about you

622
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<v Speaker 2>just from the metadata. As Hayden was saying, Michael Hayden,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, we don't want your person. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>listening to your personal phone calls, and we're not reading

625
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<v Speaker 2>your text messages and emails. We just want that metadata. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that was even worse, said William Binnie when I interviewed him.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, it's the metadata that tells him even more

628
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<v Speaker 2>than if they were listening to your phone conversations or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's part of geospatial intelligence where they analyze your movements,

630
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<v Speaker 2>who you come in contact with, all the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff. They can infer all kinds of things about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Your politics can be inferred from that, your religion can

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<v Speaker 2>be inferred from that. They are very good at that.

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<v Speaker 2>And once they do that, once they collect all that

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<v Speaker 2>information with geospatial intelligence, then they can anticipate what you're

636
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<v Speaker 2>going to do. They boast about how they know better

637
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>than you what you're going to do. They called that

638
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>AI anticipatory intelligence. And so Pallateer has been at the

639
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<v Speaker 2>center of this. And Pollateer has always been selling stuff

640
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<v Speaker 2>to the government, to the spy agencies, to the military,

641
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 2>that type of thing. They've started doing more domestic stuff now,

642
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<v Speaker 2>But years ago Pollanteer had just massive numbers of billboards

643
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<v Speaker 2>up in Washington, especially in the Subway area, because they

644
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<v Speaker 2>were marketing themselves to the federal agencies that were there.

645
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<v Speaker 2>NATO recently announced a partnership of Palanteer to acquire the

646
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:11.079
<v Speaker 2>controversial Maven smart system as part of an effort to

647
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<v Speaker 2>complete a digital transformation of NATO. This is from Derek Brose,

648
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:21.039
<v Speaker 2>last American vagabond and of course Polunteer founded by Alex

649
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.639
<v Speaker 2>carb and Peter Teel, as he points out, the technocrat

650
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<v Speaker 2>Zionists who also happened to be the steering committee members

651
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<v Speaker 2>of the Builderberg Group. And the man smart system uses

652
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<v Speaker 2>AI generated algorithms and memory learning capabilities to scan and

653
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 2>to identify enemy systems. This is what they're working on now,

654
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>is the methods for them to be able to switch

655
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<v Speaker 2>over the killed decision to the artificial intelligence. It'll go

656
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.880
<v Speaker 2>out in profile things, determine who the enemies are, who

657
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<v Speaker 2>the friends are, and then fire the weapons without having

658
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<v Speaker 2>humans in the loop. Because you have humans in the loop,

659
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.719
<v Speaker 2>the other AI will beat you to it. So that's

660
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<v Speaker 2>the arms race that is coming. And so the NATO's

661
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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of problems with standardization. They got radio

662
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<v Speaker 2>systems that don't work with each other, that are incompatible

663
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<v Speaker 2>with each other. So you know, hey, look just use signal.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, Pete Hegseth did, Mike Waltz, Yeah,

665
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<v Speaker 2>no problem, just use signal. Signal chat. Anyway, the Maven

666
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:30.400
<v Speaker 2>system has already been in use by certain US military outfits.

667
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:34.760
<v Speaker 2>They have even used it in the Ukraine Russian conflict.

668
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<v Speaker 2>The US has used Maven to spot Russian defence outposts

669
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<v Speaker 2>and April of twenty twenty four, Pounteer was also awarded

670
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<v Speaker 2>a four hundred and eighty million dollars deal by the

671
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<v Speaker 2>Army to use this system. The Financial Time says it's

672
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<v Speaker 2>likely to be one of Paleteer's most significant military contracts

673
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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty five. And again we look at Alex s. Garp.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he gets downright gleeful about killing his enemies.

675
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<v Speaker 2>And so this goes back to the original Project Maven

676
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<v Speaker 2>in April twenty six and of course, if you remember

677
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<v Speaker 2>it came out at that point time back in twenty eighteen,

678
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Google employees made public protesting Google's involvement

679
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<v Speaker 2>in Project Mavin. They said, we believe Google should not

680
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<v Speaker 2>be in the business of war, and war is a business.

681
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<v Speaker 2>Google would eventually drop out of that project, and so

682
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<v Speaker 2>would Eric Schmidt drop out of anything having to do

683
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<v Speaker 2>with Google. He had already was no longer the CEO,

684
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<v Speaker 2>but had been on the board. But he got out

685
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<v Speaker 2>around that time, and he has now been become kind

686
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<v Speaker 2>of the Pentagon guru for high tech weapons, especially artificial intelligence.

687
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<v Speaker 2>Eric Schmidt is doing that along with Peter Thiel and

688
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<v Speaker 2>along with Palenteer. And so before we take a break

689
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<v Speaker 2>here that there's now bring it Home. A Freethought project

690
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:01.440
<v Speaker 2>has an article from Reclaim the Net. Texas bill is

691
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<v Speaker 2>declaring a war on memes, a war on memes. Yeah,

692
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:11.079
<v Speaker 2>they don't want you to do satire. That's a very

693
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<v Speaker 2>difficult thing for them to deal with. What's being dressed

694
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<v Speaker 2>up here as election integrity in this Texas bill is

695
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<v Speaker 2>at its core a disturbing attempt to police satire, commentary,

696
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<v Speaker 2>and political expression. Saul Alinsky said satire is the most

697
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:35.039
<v Speaker 2>dangerous weapon. He said, there's no defense against it. Well,

698
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<v Speaker 2>even a demonic Marxist, I say demonic. He dedicated his

699
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:44.519
<v Speaker 2>book Rules for Radicals to Lucifer, the original rebel. He

700
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:49.400
<v Speaker 2>said he's right about that. He certainly knows his devils,

701
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't he Marx Lucifer all these and he said satire

702
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 2>is the most dangerous saying there's no defense against it.

703
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<v Speaker 2>I guess though even he couldn't imagine the politicians and

704
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<v Speaker 2>the lawyers and how they would use intellectual property as

705
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>a weapon. So it's deceptively framed as a measure to

706
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<v Speaker 2>combat AI misinformation. It would in reality make a criminal

707
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 2>offense to share altered political content such as memes or

708
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<v Speaker 2>edited videos, unless it carries a government mandated disclaimer that

709
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 2>has yet to be determined. Now, I said this about

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<v Speaker 2>the AI bill that was being pushed by Millennia Trump,

711
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<v Speaker 2>and Trump had said out, nobody makes more fun of

712
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<v Speaker 2>it than me. Right, that's where this is headed. I said,

713
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<v Speaker 2>that's where this is headed. I said, yeah, they're talking about,

714
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<v Speaker 2>you know, people doing fake pornography, you know, taking your

715
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<v Speaker 2>face and making pornographic images with it. And Milania wanted

716
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<v Speaker 2>to take the lead on that because I guess she

717
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<v Speaker 2>wants her cut. She wrote her book. She's very proud

718
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<v Speaker 2>of her pornographic asked, very proud of it. I guess

719
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.760
<v Speaker 2>she just wants to get paid anyway. Uh. This is

720
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<v Speaker 2>being championed by former House Speaker Dade Feelin. His medical

721
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<v Speaker 2>career has been marred by a controversy. That's a polite

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<v Speaker 2>way of putting it. He was drunk dad as Speaker

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<v Speaker 2>of the House, I talked about it. This is two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. This is why he's former speaker.

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<v Speaker 4>Paxton has not provided any real hard proof of his allegation,

726
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<v Speaker 4>but last Friday, video recorded from the House floor shows

727
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<v Speaker 4>the speaker conducting a late night portion in the fourteenth

728
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<v Speaker 4>hour of a fourteen hour session with slurred speech.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a different cadence and not the rapid fire

730
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<v Speaker 2>calling of votes normally heard, while Feelan presides, we're going

731
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<v Speaker 2>to play that he was drunks first from mid nineteenth again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the d was drunk. Following that, you'll hear it

733
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<v Speaker 2>last night and listen, mister.

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<v Speaker 3>Campbell, the center of the author is Jacob is adopted.

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<v Speaker 3>What zero seven zero?

736
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<v Speaker 5>This is record vote the clerk ring.

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<v Speaker 3>The bell show voting, mister Smith voting, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Sweener voting nay.

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<v Speaker 2>This is when he was sober. That was so they

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<v Speaker 2>did drunk then sober. Now we're back to drunk, mis adopted.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure recognizes mister mister Johnson of Harris, mister Johnson of Harris.

742
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<v Speaker 2>Do you recognized them? How about that? It's so blind drunk.

743
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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised that he could recognize them. So that's Dade Feeling,

744
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<v Speaker 2>former House speaker. He is the one who introduced this

745
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<v Speaker 2>law to criminalize memes. If an acted, that would treat

746
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<v Speaker 2>the unapproved sharing of such content by campaigns or candidates

747
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<v Speaker 2>as a class a misdemeanor punishable by up to a

748
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<v Speaker 2>year behind bars. It's coming out of your Republican Texas.

749
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<v Speaker 2>Simply spending more than one hundred dollars to promote an

750
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<v Speaker 2>altered image, video, or audio clip without the required government

751
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<v Speaker 2>approved language would be enough to trigger prosecution. A Texas

752
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<v Speaker 2>Ethics Commission would be tasked with declaring exactly what this

753
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<v Speaker 2>mandated language should look like, right down to its size

754
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<v Speaker 2>and color. They say, well, as they said, obviously it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to create the purpose of this is to intimidate people.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate the term a chilling effect. No, it's intimidation.

757
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<v Speaker 2>It's intimidation to intimidate anybody that would use satire or

758
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<v Speaker 2>parody or digital commentary to criticize politicians. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of opposition on social media. State Representative Shelley Luther, remember her,

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<v Speaker 2>So you had the beauty salon and she got a

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat locked her up. This is Clay Jenkins and Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the mayor there, the city of the county mayor,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the highest elected office. I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>the title that no judge judge there. Here in Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>it's called mayor at the county level, not a mayor

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<v Speaker 2>of a city. So they have a mayor of a city,

767
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<v Speaker 2>but then they also have a mayor of the county,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the highest elected county official. In Texas, they

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<v Speaker 2>have regular judges in a courtroom, but then the person

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<v Speaker 2>who is the elected official, who is the highest elected

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<v Speaker 2>official in the county, is called a judge there. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Clay Jenkins was a judge there. And I've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this many times, how when a bowler came to town

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<v Speaker 2>with an illegal immigrant, it had civil rights and you

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<v Speaker 2>had Clay Jenkins going around saying, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we got a bowler, but you know, go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Dallas and Houston football game, you know, go see

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys and the Wailers play, or whatever the Houston

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<v Speaker 2>team is now. And he said, we've got lots of

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<v Speaker 2>hospitals and lots of doctors if you get sick, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so they had the guy who had it died.

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<v Speaker 2>Two nurses who were treating him got nearly died, nearly

783
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<v Speaker 2>they got very sick, nearly died, and fact she came in,

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<v Speaker 2>Francis Collins came in, Obama came in, and all these Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>with the Democrat Clay Jenkins, they were all telling her,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't worry about it, everything's fine, Calm down, everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And even made it a point of going to the

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<v Speaker 2>apartment and walking around without any protective clothing or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he wants to sell the viral scare tactics

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<v Speaker 2>with COVID. Just a couple of years later, same guy,

791
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<v Speaker 2>and that time, oh, I'm going to lock you down.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's gonna be locked down. Completely different approach. And Shelley

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<v Speaker 2>Luther was one of the people who pushed back on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And she had a beauty beauty or salon and the

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<v Speaker 2>Clay Jenkins, the county judge. She got the courtroom judge

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<v Speaker 2>to put her in jail, and then I think she

797
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<v Speaker 2>was pardoned by Abbott or something. But that was a fight.

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<v Speaker 2>She got involved in politics. She's now a state representative,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, we are banning political memes and giving

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<v Speaker 2>people up to a year in jail for failing to

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<v Speaker 2>attach a disclosure to a cartoon. She tweeted, and I says,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to know what the Texas House is

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<v Speaker 2>doing today. Well, I'll tell you we are banning political

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<v Speaker 2>memes and giving people up to a year in jail

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<v Speaker 2>for failing to attach a disclosure to a cartoon. She said. Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, are rallying around this bill. What a joke.

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<v Speaker 7>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like Dade Feeling is a joke. He brushed off

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<v Speaker 2>the concerns. He said, all these days, I tell you

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<v Speaker 2>add a disclosure for using altere media. No, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he was sober when he said that, which makes it

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<v Speaker 2>all the worse. Right, I think they should rename this bill.

813
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<v Speaker 2>This is the bill for knucklehead politicians like Trump, who

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know about the MS three team being photoshopped. It

815
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<v Speaker 2>fooled him, It really did fool him. And so there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of really, you know, they should call it

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<v Speaker 2>the knuckleheads and Chuckleheads Bill. There's a lot of chuckle

818
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<v Speaker 2>heads out there who can't figure it out. Knuckleheads whatever, right,

819
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<v Speaker 2>just knuckleheads and chuck lads. We're going to do it

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<v Speaker 2>for them. We're going to put a special disclaimer on

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<v Speaker 2>there for people like Donald Trump who can't tell photoshop

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<v Speaker 2>from a picture, even when it's a really, really bad photoshop.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't even think they were even They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>even trying to make it look like it was a tattoo.

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<v Speaker 2>He just couldn't figure it out. To critics, this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of rationale only reinforces how far the government is willing

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<v Speaker 2>to reach into constitutionally protected expression. Yeah, imagine, Well the

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<v Speaker 2>founders of this country would say about a jail sentence

829
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<v Speaker 2>for doing a satire cartoon. Oh, they hate it when

830
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<v Speaker 2>you do, because satire cartoons. You know, That's that's what

831
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<v Speaker 2>the uh, the lawyers came after us for. And we're

832
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:14.519
<v Speaker 2>going to come back with that in a different form.

833
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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to do exactly the same thing. We're

834
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>going to put pretty close to it anyway. The bill

835
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<v Speaker 2>includes minor exceptions for changes in superficial quality, such as

836
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:26.360
<v Speaker 2>color or brightness. It does nothing to protect party. So

837
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess, not wit a minute. If we're gonna change

838
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 2>the color of brightness, does that mean they could enhance

839
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the orange color of Trump's skin? And not to do

840
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.840
<v Speaker 2>a disclaimer on that. It does nothing to protect parody

841
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 2>or commentary, which have long been the core pillars of

842
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:47.440
<v Speaker 2>political discourse. It draws an arbitrary legal line around digital creativity,

843
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.639
<v Speaker 2>and it gives the government power to punish those who

844
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 2>cross it because you know, we all know that sensors

845
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:59.079
<v Speaker 2>don't have a sense of humor. Implications are already dangerous

846
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>elected officials andingly shielded from criticism or moving to criminalize

847
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:06.639
<v Speaker 2>the tools used by ordinary citizens to hold them accountable.

848
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:12.039
<v Speaker 2>And as all this is happening, As I said before,

849
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:16.599
<v Speaker 2>AI is a tool to lie in spy, is a

850
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 2>tool that is dearly beloved by our lying spies who

851
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.159
<v Speaker 2>are heavily into the occult and people like the CIA.

852
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:30.800
<v Speaker 2>And so what about the speech of AI itself, You

853
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:34.519
<v Speaker 2>know it is being used satanically, demonically. The messages were

854
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:38.880
<v Speaker 2>insane and just saying a bunch of spiritual jargon as

855
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<v Speaker 2>a headline. As Rolling Stone reports, users on Reddit are

856
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>sharing how AI has led their loved ones to embrace

857
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:51.039
<v Speaker 2>a range of alarming delusions, often mixing spiritual mania and

858
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:59.440
<v Speaker 2>supernatural fantasies. Satanic demonic friends and family are watching an

859
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:03.079
<v Speaker 2>alarm as users insist that they've been chosen to fulfill

860
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 2>sacred missions on behalf of sentient AI or non existent

861
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:14.119
<v Speaker 2>cosmic powers chatbot behavior that's just mirroring and worsening existing

862
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:18.760
<v Speaker 2>mental health issues, but at an incredible scale. A forty

863
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:21.079
<v Speaker 2>one year old mother and a nonprofit worker told Rolling

864
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Stone that her marriage ended abruptly after her husband started

865
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:29.320
<v Speaker 2>engaging in unbalanced conspiratorial conversations, which at GBT that spiraled

866
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:34.039
<v Speaker 2>into an all consuming obsession. She said, he became emotional

867
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:36.920
<v Speaker 2>about the messages and he would cry to me as

868
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:41.360
<v Speaker 2>he read them aloud. The messages were insane and just

869
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:45.440
<v Speaker 2>saying a bunch of spiritual jargon, she said. AI called

870
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 2>the husband a spiritual a spiral star child. It says spiral,

871
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:56.119
<v Speaker 2>not spiritual, A spiral star child. That mean that he

872
00:57:56.239 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 2>likes milky ways. It figured out that he has a

873
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:04.480
<v Speaker 2>pension for milky Way candy. Oh you're a spiral star

874
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:10.199
<v Speaker 2>job and called him a river walker river walker as

875
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 2>he lived in San Antonio. The whole thing feels like

876
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:16.719
<v Speaker 2>black mirror, she said. Other users told the publication that

877
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:20.159
<v Speaker 2>their partner had been quote talking about lightness and dark

878
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and how there is a war, there is there is,

879
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and when things like this happen, it can be a

880
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:33.079
<v Speaker 2>physical psychological thing, but sometimes it's not. Anyway, chat GPT

881
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 2>has given him blueprints to a teleporter. Some other sci

882
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:41.480
<v Speaker 2>fi type things that you're only see in movies. Another

883
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:44.360
<v Speaker 2>man told rolling Stone that his wife is changing her

884
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:47.199
<v Speaker 2>whole life to be a spiritual advisor and to do

885
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 2>weird readings and sessions with people. I'm a little fuzzy

886
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.039
<v Speaker 2>on what it actually is, but it's all powered by

887
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:58.880
<v Speaker 2>chat GPT. Jesus, he said, no, he's a little bit

888
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:05.119
<v Speaker 2>confused to his chat g Lucifer, Lucifer. These AI induced

889
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 2>delusions are likely the result of they said, people with

890
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 2>existing tendencies. It's just it's just reinforcing somebody's psychosis, say

891
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the psychologists. But perhaps the strangest interview in rolling Stone's

892
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:22.079
<v Speaker 2>story was a man with a troubled mental health history

893
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:26.719
<v Speaker 2>who started using chat GPT for coding tasks, but then

894
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:32.519
<v Speaker 2>so it started to pull him into conversations on unhinged

895
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:40.480
<v Speaker 2>mystical topics. He pondered, is this real or am I delusional? Well,

896
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you it is going to be used that way,

897
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:46.760
<v Speaker 2>whether it's being used by demonic forces or whether it's

898
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.519
<v Speaker 2>being used by the CIA. I'm being redundant here, aren't I.

899
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<v Speaker 2>It will be used by dark, evil forces, and it

900
00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:58.719
<v Speaker 2>will be used to lie to us and to spy

901
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:01.679
<v Speaker 2>on us. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll

902
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:56.440
<v Speaker 2>be right back. If you're listening to the David Night Show.

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<v Speaker 6>Colonel Potter, Sir Corporal Clinger, I'm section eight, hit the toe.

904
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm wearing a Warner bro I played with dollas.

905
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:12.119
<v Speaker 6>My last wish is to be buried in my mother's wedding.

906
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Guy, I'm nuts.

907
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 6>I should be out horse hockey. I've seen these dodges

908
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 6>for forty years. All the tricks knew. A private pretended

909
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:26.639
<v Speaker 6>he was a mayor, carried a coat in his arms

910
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:30.119
<v Speaker 6>for weeks. Another fellow said he was a daisy, insisted

911
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:30.760
<v Speaker 6>we water.

912
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:31.400
<v Speaker 7>Him every morning.

913
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:34.199
<v Speaker 1>No, no, corporal, and ain't going to go with me.

914
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:36.599
<v Speaker 6>Now you get out of that fruit through and into

915
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:39.519
<v Speaker 6>a uniform, and you stay in uniform.

916
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:40.559
<v Speaker 8>This missus.

917
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Lead arm finished. I got to burn my bloomers.

918
01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:51.360
<v Speaker 3>I see him around sometimes.

919
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:55.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that guy. I just see him around

920
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:59.639
<v Speaker 2>there sometimes. That's his introduction, Clinger's introduction to the new

921
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Colonel there Potter. Yeah, well, Supreme Court is going to

922
01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:07.960
<v Speaker 2>allow Trump to implement transgender military band because these people

923
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 2>should be sectioned data of the military. Right, You're crazy, Look,

924
01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm crazy I'm wearing women's clothes now it's a virtue,

925
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:19.360
<v Speaker 2>and they're recruiting for people like Clinger have been under

926
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:23.119
<v Speaker 2>the Biden administration that has now changed under Trump. As

927
01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:26.079
<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, this is what Pete Hegsath said.

928
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:32.320
<v Speaker 9>No more pronouns, no more climate change obsession, no more

929
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:39.719
<v Speaker 9>emergency vaccine mandates, no more dudes in dresses. We're done

930
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:39.960
<v Speaker 9>with that.

931
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I wish we were done with the undeclared

932
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:51.000
<v Speaker 2>wars all over the place. How about that. If we

933
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 2>can get stop dudes and dresses, can we stop some

934
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:59.599
<v Speaker 2>of these wars that are unnecessary and undeclared. No, now

935
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:01.760
<v Speaker 2>they're going to ramp those up anyway. The Supreme Court

936
01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:05.719
<v Speaker 2>granted an emergency request from the Trump administration to lift

937
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:11.639
<v Speaker 2>a nationwide injunction by blocking the policy while the litigation continues.

938
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:15.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not a done deal yet, folks. This is yet

939
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:20.960
<v Speaker 2>another example of one judge, a politically appointed judge, who

940
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:23.320
<v Speaker 2>decides that he is going to tell the commander in

941
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:26.039
<v Speaker 2>chief what to do. Now, Look, whether you agree with

942
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Trump or not, I mean, we have to have these

943
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:33.599
<v Speaker 2>clear lines of authority that are there, and clearly this

944
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:36.719
<v Speaker 2>is within the scope of the president to be able

945
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:40.920
<v Speaker 2>to make this decision. Unfortunately, both in both directions. Right

946
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:43.159
<v Speaker 2>when the Democrats get back in, or I guess we

947
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:46.960
<v Speaker 2>should call them the gender crats, when the gender crats

948
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:49.920
<v Speaker 2>get back in, they could reinstate this policy because it's

949
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 2>been on again and off again as it goes back

950
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:56.280
<v Speaker 2>and forth tween Republicans and Democrats. And you didn't have

951
01:03:56.440 --> 01:04:01.719
<v Speaker 2>any you didn't have any judges saying that Trump, that

952
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Biden couldn't put the policy back in that Trump had

953
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:07.760
<v Speaker 2>taken out. It only goes the other way, and so

954
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you have one judge who decides that he is going

955
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:12.119
<v Speaker 2>to overrule the commander in chief and he's going to

956
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:15.159
<v Speaker 2>set national policy. This is what I mean by judicial

957
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:19.360
<v Speaker 2>overreach and supremacy, and that really is the case. They

958
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:22.880
<v Speaker 2>said there's just over four thousand, and this is actually

959
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:25.039
<v Speaker 2>coming from NBC News, so this is probably a high

960
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:28.079
<v Speaker 2>figure for them because they're sympathetic to the trainees. They

961
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.639
<v Speaker 2>said there's over four thousand trainees, they said transgender people,

962
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:37.360
<v Speaker 2>but there's about two point one million active service, so

963
01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:41.239
<v Speaker 2>we're looking at about zero point one percent according to them,

964
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:43.400
<v Speaker 2>and that number is pretty high probably, And that's in

965
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:47.400
<v Speaker 2>other words, about tenth of one percent. They said, we

966
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:50.320
<v Speaker 2>are not a theory, we are not a policy debate.

967
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:54.320
<v Speaker 2>We are real people doing real jobs, and they are

968
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 2>real people who have deep psychological issues that interfere with

969
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:01.960
<v Speaker 2>their job. And it's not just the mental issues as well,

970
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:07.719
<v Speaker 2>because it isn't something that just distracts their focus and

971
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.639
<v Speaker 2>has them focused on their sexual obsessions all the time.

972
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.239
<v Speaker 2>It is something that is also being funded by taxpayers.

973
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And once they get these surgical procedures, they are now

974
01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:22.920
<v Speaker 2>physically disabled, cannot deploy for a while, and they may

975
01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:25.079
<v Speaker 2>have when they've they've got some kind of a bottom

976
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:29.800
<v Speaker 2>surgery or something, they may have a physical issue that

977
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:34.039
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a big problem for them doing

978
01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:39.400
<v Speaker 2>any kind of deployment. And so this is from a

979
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:45.000
<v Speaker 2>sanity perspective, from a practical perspective, from a mental perspective,

980
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:49.559
<v Speaker 2>physical perspective, this needs to be shut down. So I'm

981
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:51.880
<v Speaker 2>glad they're doing it good. I hope that they can

982
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:54.480
<v Speaker 2>continue it. But again, remember this is just a Supreme

983
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Court saying. This judge says, I disagree with what Trump

984
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:03.960
<v Speaker 2>is doing, and I'm going to stop it nationally, and

985
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 2>he put a stay on it. And so the Supreme

986
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Court says, no, we're going to let Trump's policy go

987
01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:13.199
<v Speaker 2>through while this is still being litigated. But it could

988
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:15.239
<v Speaker 2>still be litigated. It might have to go back to

989
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:21.239
<v Speaker 2>be appealed to the Supreme Court. Yet again, they said

990
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:25.159
<v Speaker 2>that the policy quote generally disqualifies some military service individuals

991
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:29.119
<v Speaker 2>who have gender dysphoia that's the mental issue, or who

992
01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:32.840
<v Speaker 2>have undergone medical interventions for gender dys For you, that

993
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:36.599
<v Speaker 2>would be the physical impairment that they have done. In

994
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:40.039
<v Speaker 2>implementing the policy, the government relied on Pentagon report for

995
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:42.239
<v Speaker 2>the first Trump term that said that people with gender

996
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:47.199
<v Speaker 2>dysphoia so called, are a threat to quote, military effectiveness

997
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and lethality. So they said, one person pushing back on it, said,

998
01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:56.639
<v Speaker 2>this is based on the shocking proposition that transgender people

999
01:06:56.719 --> 01:07:02.280
<v Speaker 2>do not exist. No know you exist. You are just

1000
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:08.960
<v Speaker 2>detached from reality. And they this is just an acknowledgment

1001
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:15.079
<v Speaker 2>that they're mentally and sometimes electively physically unable to do

1002
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.719
<v Speaker 2>the job. That's what it's an acknowledgment of. So the

1003
01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court stayed the lower court's preliminary injunction of one

1004
01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:26.840
<v Speaker 2>unelected political appointee, saying I'm going to set policy for

1005
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:31.440
<v Speaker 2>the entire military tire two million person military. It was

1006
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:34.440
<v Speaker 2>a six to three decision, and of course the three

1007
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:38.400
<v Speaker 2>were the liberal justices sot of A or Kagan and

1008
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Jackson Jackson, who famously did not know what is a woman.

1009
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I guess Jackson still does not know what a woman is.

1010
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:53.119
<v Speaker 2>These are the three appointed gendercrat judges, and they want

1011
01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:57.039
<v Speaker 2>to rule by gender fantasy. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals,

1012
01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:01.039
<v Speaker 2>with of course, you know it's a very leftist court,

1013
01:08:01.719 --> 01:08:05.280
<v Speaker 2>denied Trump administration's stay and so you had a one

1014
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:08.039
<v Speaker 2>judge who did it and put a stay on it,

1015
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:10.599
<v Speaker 2>and then they appealed it to the Night Circuit Court.

1016
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:13.480
<v Speaker 2>They said no, we're going to leave the stay in.

1017
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.880
<v Speaker 2>They appealed it to the Supreme Court, and then they

1018
01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:23.720
<v Speaker 2>they removed the stay. In January, Trump signed two bills,

1019
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:28.239
<v Speaker 2>one of them to root out the gender insanity that

1020
01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:32.600
<v Speaker 2>was called the Restoring America's Fighting Force, and then the

1021
01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:35.800
<v Speaker 2>other one was to stop the nonsense about pronouns that

1022
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:40.760
<v Speaker 2>was called prioritizing Military Excellence and Readiness. They said they

1023
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.239
<v Speaker 2>want to root out gender insanity and then made up

1024
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 2>pronoun usage respectively. So again, if we want to have

1025
01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:51.960
<v Speaker 2>a sane military. Let's take a look at these ongoing

1026
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:56.000
<v Speaker 2>wars in Gaza, Ukraine, and Yemen and the rest, and

1027
01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:59.199
<v Speaker 2>let's not start one in Iran. Then you really would

1028
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:04.039
<v Speaker 2>have a sane military. But instead we have wars that

1029
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:09.439
<v Speaker 2>are even more insane than Corporal Clinger, who had the

1030
01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:12.079
<v Speaker 2>good sense to want to get out of that Korean

1031
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:15.800
<v Speaker 2>war that was there a police action, our first police

1032
01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:20.000
<v Speaker 2>action war. The trans Empire striking back against the UK

1033
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:24.840
<v Speaker 2>determination and court. The UK Supreme Court has as we

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<v Speaker 2>reported last month, they ruled that fifteen year old British

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<v Speaker 2>legislation really did mean sex and not using this redefined

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01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:43.840
<v Speaker 2>term gender, because look, gender and sex have always been

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01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:47.760
<v Speaker 2>synonym for each other and they've always been biological. And

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<v Speaker 2>so the UK Supreme Court said, well, it said sex

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01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to treat it as written, and that's

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01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:59.279
<v Speaker 2>caused a lot of pushback in the UK. They simply

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01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:02.600
<v Speaker 2>found that words mean things, as this person says the

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<v Speaker 2>New American. They simply found that man means man, and

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01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:11.079
<v Speaker 2>woman means woman, and sex means man, woman and sex.

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01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:15.399
<v Speaker 2>But Andrea Widberg wrote, she said, you already know what

1045
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:20.960
<v Speaker 2>it says, lived reality and threatening the safety as these

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01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you have a lot of celebrities have come together with

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01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 2>a letter to push back against this lived reality that

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01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 2>sounds like that Luigi guy right, our lived experiences. Yeah,

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01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:40.640
<v Speaker 2>that's university talk for nonsense. It exposes trans people to

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01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:45.640
<v Speaker 2>embarrassment and harassment. To make a distinction and say, well,

1051
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:49.600
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be biological negative consequences for all

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01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:53.760
<v Speaker 2>women harm that trans engender, non conforming people face, et cetera,

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01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:59.479
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. So Woodberg says, there's a couple of things

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01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:02.359
<v Speaker 2>to understand about the We Love Trans People pylon. First

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01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:07.079
<v Speaker 2>of all, the entertainment industry is disproportionately populated with non heterosexuals.

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01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:11.159
<v Speaker 2>While most people know very few homosexuals and have never

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01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:14.439
<v Speaker 2>met somebody claiming to be trans, the entertainment types really

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01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:17.560
<v Speaker 2>do believe that half or more of the world is

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01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:22.960
<v Speaker 2>on what they call a spectrum. A spectrum in other words,

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01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:26.439
<v Speaker 2>it's a continuum. You don't have a binary man or woman.

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01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:30.359
<v Speaker 2>You have some kind of a continuum there where they

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01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:33.800
<v Speaker 2>are gradually moving between these two worlds. And as a

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01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.560
<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, Cynthia Nixon, who's an actress and she

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01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:40.319
<v Speaker 2>was on Sex and the City, she ran for political office.

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01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:43.319
<v Speaker 2>She had this to say in a New York rally.

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<v Speaker 10>I am here today as the mother of a proud transman.

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01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:57.479
<v Speaker 10>I am here today as the aunt of a proud transman.

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01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:05.720
<v Speaker 10>My best friend's kid is trans, and my kid's best

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01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:07.199
<v Speaker 10>friend is trans.

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<v Speaker 11>My wife and I our lives are filled with the

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01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:19.760
<v Speaker 11>most amazing, beautiful, brave trans people, young and old, but

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01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:21.520
<v Speaker 11>especially young.

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01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:28.560
<v Speaker 2>My trans kid had.

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<v Speaker 12>His top surgery at NYU a number of years ago.

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01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:41.239
<v Speaker 12>His doctors were fantastic, His surgeon was the best we

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01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:46.920
<v Speaker 12>could have imagined. And the idea that the city is

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01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:51.800
<v Speaker 12>filled with young people who thought they had a place

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01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:54.720
<v Speaker 12>to go where they could receive the highest care and

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01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:57.800
<v Speaker 12>that place has now been shut to them sickens me.

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01:12:58.439 --> 01:12:59.840
<v Speaker 12>Sickens me to my.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So is she auditioning for a new series? I

1082
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:10.800
<v Speaker 2>could call it gender in the City, right instead of

1083
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Sex in the City. She's got all these people in

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01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 2>her life that are trainees her daughter.

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01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:22.079
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, look, lady, sorry, you sold your soul to the

1086
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:24.640
<v Speaker 13>devil and invited this evil into your household. But that's

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01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:25.960
<v Speaker 13>not the average experience.

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01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:30.079
<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's like was it Bill Maher that said,

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01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:31.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what's going on with this? Why is it

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01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:35.600
<v Speaker 2>all the kids in California are in the wrong bodies,

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01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:39.159
<v Speaker 2>but it's not happening to the people in Indiana or whatever.

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01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 13>It's even obvious just from what she says. When it's

1093
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:43.119
<v Speaker 13>like and I know more young people, it's like, yeah,

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01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:46.000
<v Speaker 13>because they've been hammering this propaganda for the last few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. She's proud of the fact that her daughter,

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01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.560
<v Speaker 2>evidently when her daughter was young and minor, had a misectomy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all we talk about when we talk about mutilation,

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01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:01.760
<v Speaker 2>or some of them sterilization. So she has a daughter

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01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:06.520
<v Speaker 2>that is trans, saying a trans man. Now, her niece

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01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:10.000
<v Speaker 2>is trans, her best friend's kid is trans, her kid's

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01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:14.319
<v Speaker 2>best friend is trans. And this writer for The New

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01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:18.439
<v Speaker 2>American says, if this strikes you statistically improbable, joined the club.

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01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:23.960
<v Speaker 2>One person commented on this video and said, Transhausen's syndrome

1104
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:28.239
<v Speaker 2>by proxy instead of Munchausen is Transhausen, and that's what

1105
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:31.199
<v Speaker 2>it is. They want a virtue signal. I'm part of

1106
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the club. I'm part of the LGBT club. She absolutely is.

1107
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:39.880
<v Speaker 2>But the part that is intolerable about this is that

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01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:44.479
<v Speaker 2>she's demanding this mutilation of young kids and pushing it

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01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:48.880
<v Speaker 2>on them. Probably within her family. This is a Hollywood

1110
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:52.800
<v Speaker 2>special effect, folks. It really is something that's being pushed

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01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:55.760
<v Speaker 2>out of the entertainment business. And they are very very

1112
01:14:55.840 --> 01:15:05.279
<v Speaker 2>effective at gas lighting and at propaganda. So there's a

1113
01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:12.279
<v Speaker 2>pushback from JK. Rowling, who has really you know, that's

1114
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:14.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, she's sure with the Harry Potter books. She's

1115
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a multi billionaire and she doesn't care what these people

1116
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:20.560
<v Speaker 2>are saying. She's going to push back on this. And

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01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:23.720
<v Speaker 2>so she is a radical feminist who and the feminist,

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01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:26.960
<v Speaker 2>as I've said many times, typically what we've seen the

1119
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.880
<v Speaker 2>last few years, the radical feminists are at war with

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01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:39.560
<v Speaker 2>the trainnies. She said, I'm not repeating this. Trans women

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01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:43.319
<v Speaker 2>are women and trans men are men. She says, I'm

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01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:46.239
<v Speaker 2>not repeating that because it's true. They know full well

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01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that it is not true, but because they believe that

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01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:54.119
<v Speaker 2>they can make it true sort of if they force

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01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:59.359
<v Speaker 2>everyone else to agree. And that's the key. It's about

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01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:03.479
<v Speaker 2>repeating propaganda, repeating it over and over again. It's about

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01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:06.520
<v Speaker 2>going with a great big lie. It's always been the

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01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:10.319
<v Speaker 2>key of propaganda, and it's repetition, a great big lie,

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01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:15.239
<v Speaker 2>and it is coercion, especially in the entertainment business, and

1130
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:21.000
<v Speaker 2>she's been ostracized because of that. So this writer of

1131
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:22.920
<v Speaker 2>The New American says, what we're talking about is the

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01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:32.199
<v Speaker 2>mindset that rejects objective reality, especially moral objective reality. Says,

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01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:35.319
<v Speaker 2>there are two conceptions of right and wrong. One involves

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01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:39.279
<v Speaker 2>the idea that morality is real, existing apart from man,

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01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:43.359
<v Speaker 2>that it is universal, that it is eternal, that is unchanging.

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01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Our only job is to discover it and to align

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01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:51.479
<v Speaker 2>our lives to it. And how is it eternal and

1138
01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:55.039
<v Speaker 2>separate away from man, Well, it's because it's tied to God.

1139
01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:58.439
<v Speaker 2>The other one is that man makes his own morality.

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01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:03.399
<v Speaker 2>The other conception is a relativistic one, which is what

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01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:06.279
<v Speaker 2>we live in today in our society, the idea that

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01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:12.119
<v Speaker 2>humans invent what can only be called morality, and if

1143
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:14.960
<v Speaker 2>we invent it, we can reinvent it, and we can

1144
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.399
<v Speaker 2>keep changing it. And everybody's got their own truth and

1145
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:22.960
<v Speaker 2>their own reality. See, this is what's typically called postmodernism.

1146
01:17:23.319 --> 01:17:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Modernism was in the eighteen hundreds. People wanted to push

1147
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:31.000
<v Speaker 2>back against God. So they wanted to reject his morality.

1148
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:35.600
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to reject the idea of what was in

1149
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 2>the Bible. They had higher criticism in Germany and other places.

1150
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:40.000
<v Speaker 2>And so this is one of the many ways that

1151
01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:44.960
<v Speaker 2>it came back. You had, you know, evolution, you had modernism,

1152
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:49.079
<v Speaker 2>higher criticism, a lot of different things that were there.

1153
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:53.279
<v Speaker 2>They basically wanted to throw off the old social conventions,

1154
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:58.520
<v Speaker 2>which are based on God's morality. And what happened was

1155
01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:01.079
<v Speaker 2>they didn't do too well in terms of their arguments,

1156
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:05.760
<v Speaker 2>and so they stopped trying to argue to get away

1157
01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:09.920
<v Speaker 2>from morality, and they just went post modern, which says, oh,

1158
01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:12.159
<v Speaker 2>we're not even going to argue with you what is truth.

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01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:14.640
<v Speaker 2>We don't know what truth is. There is no absolute truth,

1160
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:18.600
<v Speaker 2>That's what they would say, except that the reality is

1161
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:23.439
<v Speaker 2>that was their absolute truth. Their absolute truth was that

1162
01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:26.079
<v Speaker 2>there is no absolute truth. But they did have that,

1163
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:29.560
<v Speaker 2>did hold that as an absolute truth. So the whole

1164
01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:33.520
<v Speaker 2>thing was nonsensical. It was self contradictory. About a decade ago,

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01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:36.119
<v Speaker 2>says this writer, I was interacting with a little girl

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01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:38.960
<v Speaker 2>of about eight or nine who was in my charge,

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01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:44.000
<v Speaker 2>and some topic arose and I mentioned a moral imperative. Well,

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01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:49.279
<v Speaker 2>she replied quite innocently that it wasn't true, because she says,

1169
01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm paraphrasing all the people could disagree and think otherwise,

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01:18:55.920 --> 01:18:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, writer says, I gently corrected her, Well again,

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01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:02.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, we will make up our own truth. The

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01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:06.279
<v Speaker 2>idea that right and wrong are just a function of

1173
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:10.720
<v Speaker 2>consensus social values. Yeah, that's a problem that we have

1174
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:17.920
<v Speaker 2>with democracy. For example, right democracy is rejects the truth

1175
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:21.720
<v Speaker 2>that we are created in the image of God, as

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01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:24.760
<v Speaker 2>stayed in the Declaration of Independence, that the purpose of

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01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:30.800
<v Speaker 2>government is to is to protect those God given rights

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01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:36.319
<v Speaker 2>that we all have as creatures of God. And so

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01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:41.119
<v Speaker 2>when we start talking about where we are today in

1180
01:19:41.119 --> 01:19:45.600
<v Speaker 2>our society, all this obsession with democracy is really a

1181
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:50.039
<v Speaker 2>mob rule, a mob that denies individual rights. Where do

1182
01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:52.039
<v Speaker 2>we see this over and over again? We see it

1183
01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:55.600
<v Speaker 2>in public health. The mob will tell you what to

1184
01:19:55.640 --> 01:19:59.479
<v Speaker 2>do with your health, the mob that is running the government.

1185
01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Or we see it with public education, the mob will

1186
01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:06.640
<v Speaker 2>tell you how to educate your child, where and how

1187
01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:10.880
<v Speaker 2>and what to tell them. Or we see it in

1188
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:16.479
<v Speaker 2>every aspect. And whenever you put the prefix of public there,

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01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:19.399
<v Speaker 2>that's it, public transportation, we will tell you how you

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01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:23.159
<v Speaker 2>will move, and you will move as the government sees fit.

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01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Anytime you put that public there, anytime you start talking

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01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:30.600
<v Speaker 2>about how democracy is the highest value. You're talking about

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01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.000
<v Speaker 2>a mob here, and the mob never respects you as

1194
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:37.279
<v Speaker 2>an individual. They didn't respect your individual rights or republic.

1195
01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:40.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a rule of law, and there are certain things

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01:20:40.840 --> 01:20:42.920
<v Speaker 2>that are encoded into that law and that make it

1197
01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:47.079
<v Speaker 2>very difficult to change it about individual rights. Whereas a mob,

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01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:48.840
<v Speaker 2>all they got to have is fifty one percent of

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01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the people say we're going to do this or do

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01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:54.760
<v Speaker 2>that to you, and there's nothing you're going to do

1201
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:58.520
<v Speaker 2>about it. See if we were if we didn't have

1202
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:01.399
<v Speaker 2>the public health officials like Fauci, if we respect an

1203
01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:05.079
<v Speaker 2>individual liberty, as the Constitution says, then we wouldn't have that.

1204
01:21:05.239 --> 01:21:10.319
<v Speaker 2>But it's always important for democracy rule to get away

1205
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:15.880
<v Speaker 2>from the rule of law. Relativistic operation becomes instinctive. It

1206
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:19.399
<v Speaker 2>begins to be applied beyond the moral realm. If everything

1207
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:21.600
<v Speaker 2>is relative, then what could be wrong with having your

1208
01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:28.039
<v Speaker 2>alternative scientific quote unquote facts. So if people want to

1209
01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:32.600
<v Speaker 2>advance this agenda, however, they want to do it as

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01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:37.119
<v Speaker 2>a moral imperative. So they have their absolute truths, they

1211
01:21:37.159 --> 01:21:40.239
<v Speaker 2>have their commandments that they want you to obey. They

1212
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:43.640
<v Speaker 2>have their religion, they have their worldview, and they demand

1213
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:47.960
<v Speaker 2>that their religion and worldview be taught in the public schools,

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01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:53.119
<v Speaker 2>that you bow to it, that you speak using their pronouns,

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01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and all the rest of this stuff. It is a

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01:21:56.760 --> 01:22:02.000
<v Speaker 2>policy of domination and it denies the individual, when in

1217
01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:05.800
<v Speaker 2>reality they are saying, we're upholding the uniqueness and diversity

1218
01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:08.520
<v Speaker 2>of individuals. Know they're not. What they're doing is they're

1219
01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:13.840
<v Speaker 2>just attacking truth in politics. The check on democracy is

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01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:16.520
<v Speaker 2>a principle that rights are inherent from God and they're

1221
01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:20.439
<v Speaker 2>not up for grabs and they're not to be renegotiated

1222
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:23.079
<v Speaker 2>with a mob. Now, as we have all this, I'll

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01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:26.159
<v Speaker 2>just got one last thing here about trans issues. You

1224
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:32.800
<v Speaker 2>know we had. Michelle Obama has had a couple of

1225
01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:38.640
<v Speaker 2>interestingly awkward phrased events recently. She just was on a

1226
01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:41.439
<v Speaker 2>podcast and she was talking to somebody and she said, well,

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01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:44.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, we talk about this. I think it was

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01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:47.399
<v Speaker 2>a transgender thing. Even she said, well, as a man,

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01:22:47.439 --> 01:22:49.159
<v Speaker 2>I would like to know blah blah blah, you know

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01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:51.840
<v Speaker 2>what you would like to think about this? Now everybody

1231
01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:55.600
<v Speaker 2>was playing that clip. Oh yeah, look, big Mike says,

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01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:59.760
<v Speaker 2>as a man, I would like to know instead of

1233
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:01.319
<v Speaker 2>saying I would like to know what you think as

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01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:03.439
<v Speaker 2>a man, she says, as a man, I would like

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01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to know Foxus was on the wrong order of words.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's done it again. Now. She says that she's

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<v Speaker 2>in therapy and she's going through life transition, being put

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<v Speaker 2>out by some conservatives saying, see here it is again

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<v Speaker 2>she's admitting she's a man. I think it's another unfortunate phrasing. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>she says, at this phase of my life, I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>therapy right now because I'm transitioning, you know, which is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting. You know, being a gendercrat, you would

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<v Speaker 2>think she would know how people are going to take that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's toying with people. She says, I'm an empty nester.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes on to clarify, I'm an empty nester. My

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<v Speaker 2>girls are in you know, they've been launched, she said.

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle Obama said, accommodation of being out of public service

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<v Speaker 2>and her children being fully grown, left in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where quote, every choice that I'm making is completely mine,

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<v Speaker 2>they said. And so she said, I'm getting that tune

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<v Speaker 2>up for this next phase of my life. Oh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>not run for office please. It comes after she spoke

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<v Speaker 2>about the discourse around her marriage she said, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that we as women, I think we struggle with

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<v Speaker 2>disappointing people. I mean so much so that this year

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<v Speaker 2>people couldn't even fathom that I was making a choice

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<v Speaker 2>for myself. That they had to assume that my husband

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<v Speaker 2>and I are divorcing. This couldn't be a grown up

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<v Speaker 2>woman just making a set of decisions for herself, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, it's not a marriage when

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<v Speaker 2>you say that you're transitioning in your life and your

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<v Speaker 2>spouse is not really involved and you're going to figure

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<v Speaker 2>it all out yourself. I mean most people's that's not

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<v Speaker 2>what most people's idea, even in our society where divorce

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<v Speaker 2>is rampant, that's not most people's idea of a marriag.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in the marriage, you might want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to this person that you've been living with for decades

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of seek their advice rather than go in

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<v Speaker 2>and get the therapeutic advice of some stranger who puts

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<v Speaker 2>out a shingle like Lucy advice five cents, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>about what it's worth.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, over the last ten years, the soul everybody needs

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<v Speaker 13>therapy idea has gone absolutely crazy. The sheer number of

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<v Speaker 13>people that have almost no problems in their life and

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<v Speaker 13>still feel the need to go complain to someone is

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<v Speaker 13>insane to me. Yeah, you're showing up to get just

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<v Speaker 13>your mind wiped and one shot by some dude with

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<v Speaker 13>a piece of paper that has never lived or done anything.

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<v Speaker 13>He has spent his entire life sitting in a school

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<v Speaker 13>learning techniques on how to brainwash you. That's all he's done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, you just think how dangerous that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be for artificial intelligence. Like I've said, the

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<v Speaker 2>first time I saw all of these chat programs, that's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what it was. And it was and the crude

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<v Speaker 2>computers that we had back in the nineteen seventies, even then,

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<v Speaker 2>it could go through and do a convincing psycho analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>Well tell me a little bit about yourself. Well why

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel that way? And so it asked these

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<v Speaker 2>open ended, probing questions and you know, that's all you

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<v Speaker 2>really need to be able to do as a psychiatrist.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that and write up an invoice and buy a couch,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean. And it was it was very

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<v Speaker 2>very It was amusing how convincing that was. And just

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<v Speaker 2>think about how good AI is and I think, Travis,

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<v Speaker 2>part of it is that, you know, the broken human

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<v Speaker 2>relations just like I was talking about there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know there's obviously something wrong with the relationship if

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<v Speaker 2>she's been married for decades to Obama, to Barack and

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<v Speaker 2>she feels like she needs to go to a stranger.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think one of the reasons that it's accelerating

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<v Speaker 2>is because we're becoming increasingly cut off from each other,

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<v Speaker 2>cut off so much so that you've got to go

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01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.760
<v Speaker 2>hire somebody to listen to you, or you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go online to one of these chat programs, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to start telling you that you are a

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<v Speaker 2>spiral star child Orse, and some of the people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to go act upon that.

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<v Speaker 13>Hold On, he has got to consult with the ancient

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<v Speaker 13>Babylonian demons real fast.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Well, we got a new sponsor here. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to play a little bit of a clip for

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<v Speaker 2>this Signs of Confederate Veterans.

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<v Speaker 7>We remember the battle, we remember the places, we remember

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<v Speaker 7>the Southern Soldiers. We are the sons of Confederate Veterans,

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<v Speaker 7>and we invite you to join us in reserving our

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01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:53.000
<v Speaker 7>past and remembering our history and heritage. Of Honor. To

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<v Speaker 7>find out more, call one eight hundred and myself or

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<v Speaker 7>visit us on the web.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the David Knight Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk a little bit about war. We have

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<v Speaker 2>Trump announcing that the US will stop bombing the who thees. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's good, glad to see that. You know, again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like on off Congress is not involved. They're making speeches

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<v Speaker 2>or having hearings or something, or raising money, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we just have an executive that puts us in wars,

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<v Speaker 2>takes us out of wars. But I'm glad that he's

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<v Speaker 2>taking us out of the war. The military has struck

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<v Speaker 2>Yemen at least eight hundred targets in Yemen, says Politico,

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<v Speaker 2>killed hundreds of houthi's since March. Other people put it

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<v Speaker 2>at over one thousand, not eight hundred. Trump framed the

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<v Speaker 2>move as a handshake agreement to end the Pentagon's bombing

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<v Speaker 2>campaign in exchange for the houthis no longer attacking American ships.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a deal, he said. They said, please don't

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<v Speaker 2>bomb us anymore, and we're not going to attack your ships. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what happens with Gaza, we'll see about that. The arrangement

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<v Speaker 2>is unlikely to call them tensions in the region if

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<v Speaker 2>it's limited to protecting American ships. Israel escalated strikes against

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<v Speaker 2>the Houthis on Monday night, with twenty fighter jets bombing

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<v Speaker 2>the port city in Yemen, and of course they I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was yesterday, yesterday or the day before, they

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<v Speaker 2>completely decimated the largest airport that is there. The Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration also labeled the a terror group in March, changing

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<v Speaker 2>a Biden era policy. The Defense Department in the US

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<v Speaker 2>Central Command did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump Special Invoice Steve Whitcoff worked to reach a ceasefire

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend, with Oman serving as a mediator and

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<v Speaker 2>a person familiar with the matter who was granted anonymity

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss sensitive diplomatic issues. Witcoff has also been leading

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<v Speaker 2>talks with Iran over its nuclear program. Well, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a welcome change unless this all is set up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about the talks with Iran. It was my

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<v Speaker 2>concern that was just being done so they could say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we did our best. We tried to talk to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're completely not reasonable. So we now we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to go to war with them, so we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, is this going to be a ceasefire, so

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<v Speaker 2>then they can say that the MNS, the m and

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<v Speaker 2>E's Hohothis broke the ceasefire, so now they have to

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<v Speaker 2>resume the war in a larger way. Mani, foreign minister

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<v Speaker 2>confirmed on social media. He said in the future, neither

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<v Speaker 2>side will bomb the other, including American vessels in the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sea. A senior houth The official said, told Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 2>News that the group would stop attacking US military ships

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<v Speaker 2>if Washington halts its strikes, and then they said, but

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<v Speaker 2>we will definitely continue our operations in support of Gaza

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<v Speaker 2>and support to Gaza. There was a ceasefire and they

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<v Speaker 2>lived up to their side of it until that ceasefire

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<v Speaker 2>was broken, and then they resumed the strikes. But the

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<v Speaker 2>ceasefire was from the Houthis was based on Israel's ceasefire

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<v Speaker 2>in Gaza, and Israel broke that ceasefire and they resumed

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<v Speaker 2>shooting on ships. So we'll see what happens with this.

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<v Speaker 2>He said. Operations would continue until the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>aggression on Gaza and the blockade on its people. They

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<v Speaker 2>have launched more than five hundred strikes on commercial ships

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<v Speaker 2>in the Red Sea, but hoy strikes against the waterway

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<v Speaker 2>have declined significantly in recent months, and the group hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>targeted a commercial vessel since late December. Rubio, following Trump's announcement,

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<v Speaker 2>said that the Houthy strikes were a freedom of navigation issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and so perhaps they've gotten this solve. Trump is essentially

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<v Speaker 2>declaring victory and going home saying mission accomplished. Hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>heard a president say that once. Did we want that

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<v Speaker 2>bush that's in that Yeah, mission accomplished. That didn't end

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<v Speaker 2>the war then either. Minish war correspondent Elijah Magneer observes

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<v Speaker 2>the US intelligently stopped the bombing on Yemen due to

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<v Speaker 2>the lack of objectives. Well, that never stopped us in

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<v Speaker 2>any other war Vietnam. What's our objective? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take that hill over there, okay, you took it, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give it back to them. Okay, let's do something else.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what is the objective? What is the purpose

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff? The empty outcome and the high cost

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<v Speaker 2>versus no gain. Well, again, that kind of describes pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much every war we've had since World War Two. A

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<v Speaker 2>lack of objectives, an empty outcome, and the high cost

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<v Speaker 2>versus no game. The only thing you left to add

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<v Speaker 2>in there is defeat. Others have noted that this is

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a declare mission, accomplish and cut and run moment

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<v Speaker 2>with no better alternatives. Surreal close up images are emerging

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<v Speaker 2>showing the sheer and utter destruction and the size of

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli attack on their international airport. There it appears

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<v Speaker 2>that Washington is now content to hand things over to Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pentagon might have better use for its two aircraft

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<v Speaker 2>carriers off of Yemen, which were essentially large sitting ducks.

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<v Speaker 2>And again we go back to the plane falling off

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<v Speaker 2>the aircraft carrier. They were saying that it was under attack.

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<v Speaker 2>We get conflicting stuff, and with a fog of war,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't really tell. You really can't tell. It is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of futile try to figure out when two sides

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<v Speaker 2>are at war, to try to figure out which one

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<v Speaker 2>of them is telling the truth. Most of the time

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<v Speaker 2>both of them are lying. I had a listener who

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<v Speaker 2>sent me a thing, was very concerned about what he

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<v Speaker 2>perceived as my one sided reporting on the war on Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to confess that I am very much

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<v Speaker 2>against the Ukrainian government against Lensky. And I'm paraphrasing because

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to print out his email and I

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<v Speaker 2>will do that and read the email, but just to

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<v Speaker 2>paraphrase it. He said he was there, I think, in

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<v Speaker 2>family members when there were attacks by Russia, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not excusing what Russia is doing. This is the thing

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<v Speaker 2>about war. You know, you can argue the starting points

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<v Speaker 2>of wars, and you can argue back and forth about

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<v Speaker 2>the atrocities of war, but the wars will only end

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<v Speaker 2>and the killing will only end when you start to

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<v Speaker 2>make that the object if your object is to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to say this side this trial, and I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe both sides when they say atrocity, when they

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the atrostees, because when war happens, both sides

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<v Speaker 2>are committing atrosties, especially against you know, civilians. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I typically mean by atrocities targeting civilians. Both sides do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and both sides can pick a starting point and feel

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<v Speaker 2>justified about it, even if it's not in the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a relative of Karen and who Karen's who

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<v Speaker 2>was working in one of the towers on nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>and she couldn't see what was happening because she was

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<v Speaker 2>just too close to it. And I don't mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't see what was physically happening there. She couldn't see

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<v Speaker 2>what was happening in the bigger picture of this, and

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01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:48.720
<v Speaker 2>could not question the official story because she was there,

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01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:52.560
<v Speaker 2>she was emotionally involved in it. And so we are

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01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:55.119
<v Speaker 2>only going to stop the killing and stop the wars

1442
01:36:55.479 --> 01:36:57.880
<v Speaker 2>if we can get past this. Well, he shot first

1443
01:36:57.960 --> 01:37:01.039
<v Speaker 2>type of thing and the just occasion for that, because

1444
01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:04.520
<v Speaker 2>what that is is that is a you know, as Christians,

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01:37:05.399 --> 01:37:10.119
<v Speaker 2>we look at the heart right and if there is

1446
01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:12.399
<v Speaker 2>there has to be forgiveness for there to be peace,

1447
01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>there has to be forgiveness. For us to have peace

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01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>with God, we have to get God's forgiveness. He's provided

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01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:25.039
<v Speaker 2>for that. We have to accept that He has provided

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01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:28.119
<v Speaker 2>his son for our forgiveness, and we have to forgive

1451
01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>ourselves as well. And so the same thing is true

1452
01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:35.479
<v Speaker 2>in our relationships with other people if we harbor bitterness.

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01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:39.039
<v Speaker 2>And again I can't say that I could get past

1454
01:37:39.079 --> 01:37:41.640
<v Speaker 2>that if I had my children blown up by either side.

1455
01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>That's a difficult thing to do. I mean, I look

1456
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>at these pictures. I don't know these people, and I

1457
01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.159
<v Speaker 2>look at starving children, I look at children who' blown

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01:37:52.199 --> 01:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>to bits. I look at parents holding their dead children

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01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>in their arms, and I just can't fathom that. How

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01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.319
<v Speaker 2>do you get past that? How do you move past

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01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>that bitterness? Well, even if those people can't, the people

1462
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>who are running the wars need to move beyond that.

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01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:11.640
<v Speaker 2>And of course my issue with Selensky is that he

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01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:15.640
<v Speaker 2>wants to make this a global war. The war's working

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01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>out very very well for about little conniving crook, and

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01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:24.159
<v Speaker 2>he would like to see even a nuclear war. He'd

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01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:27.720
<v Speaker 2>like to see a global nuclear war. And he is

1468
01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:34.399
<v Speaker 2>absolutely despicable. It's not to say that Putin is any better.

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01:38:34.439 --> 01:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I think he is not pushing for a global nuclear exchange.

1470
01:38:37.119 --> 01:38:40.479
<v Speaker 2>Zelensky is the who. Thives have announced that they are

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<v Speaker 2>not and they don't want to fight anymore, said Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>They just don't want to fight, and we will honor that,

1473
01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:48.720
<v Speaker 2>and we will we will stop the bombings. And they

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01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:53.840
<v Speaker 2>have capitulated, but more importantly they we will take their

1475
01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:56.439
<v Speaker 2>word and they say they will not be I mean,

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01:38:56.479 --> 01:38:59.359
<v Speaker 2>it's it's the word solid here blowing up ships anymore,

1477
01:38:59.479 --> 01:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>all that as he spoke it. So that was a

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01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>live comment. Israel is blindsided by Trump's announcement about the

1479
01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:13.359
<v Speaker 2>houthis says the Jerusalem Post. Israel is not informed in

1480
01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:16.600
<v Speaker 2>advance about Trump's announcement regarding the houth. He's an informed source,

1481
01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:23.560
<v Speaker 2>told the Jerusalem Post yesterday. But you have the Atlantic

1482
01:39:24.520 --> 01:39:29.760
<v Speaker 2>saying Trump finally drops the anti semitism pretext and the

1483
01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:33.439
<v Speaker 2>latest letter to Harvard, and I thought, oh, that's interesting.

1484
01:39:33.479 --> 01:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll take a look at it. But of course it's

1485
01:39:35.720 --> 01:39:40.640
<v Speaker 2>not really what you might think, because we know that

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<v Speaker 2>it's not anti Semitism. It's criticism of the way the

1487
01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:46.960
<v Speaker 2>war is being conducted by net Yahoo. If anything, it's

1488
01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:50.079
<v Speaker 2>anti Netan Yahoism. And there's plenty of that going around

1489
01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:54.560
<v Speaker 2>in Israel amongst the Jews, and with the Jews here

1490
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:58.800
<v Speaker 2>in America, there's plenty of anti net Yahoo, isn't. And

1491
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:04.920
<v Speaker 2>so to shut down people's speech and opposition to a

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01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:10.319
<v Speaker 2>policy of a foreign government's continued civilian bombings that have

1493
01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:14.199
<v Speaker 2>been called mislabeled as a war, it's not a war

1494
01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:20.680
<v Speaker 2>when you're bombing civilians. It is a unilateral move of

1495
01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:25.119
<v Speaker 2>genocide frankly and so. But what the Atlantic says is

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<v Speaker 2>that in this letter from the Secretary of Education to Harvard,

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01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:35.119
<v Speaker 2>she accuses Harvard of admitting students who are contemptuous of America. Well,

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01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:40.600
<v Speaker 2>that's true. Chastises it for hiring the former Blue City

1499
01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:44.119
<v Speaker 2>mayors Bill de Blasio and Lori Lightfoot to teach leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, this is like hiring the captain of the

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01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Titanic to teach navigation. That's pretty good. That's true as well.

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01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:59.239
<v Speaker 2>She questions the necessity of its remedial math program. Why

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01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:04.239
<v Speaker 2>is it that Harvard has to teach simple and basic mathematics?

1504
01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:06.239
<v Speaker 2>And that is a really good question. And we know

1505
01:41:06.279 --> 01:41:09.199
<v Speaker 2>what the answer is. It's because their admission policy is

1506
01:41:09.239 --> 01:41:12.800
<v Speaker 2>not based on merit. We're supposed to be impressed with

1507
01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Harvard when they've got to have her medial math programs

1508
01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:20.479
<v Speaker 2>for people they can't do basic math and they still

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01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:23.399
<v Speaker 2>get into Harvard. Oh, so, what is your admission to

1510
01:41:23.399 --> 01:41:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Harvard based on what's based on money or race or

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01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:29.640
<v Speaker 2>dei politics or something like that, And she accuses its

1512
01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>bored Penny Pritzker, this is the Hyatt family. This is

1513
01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:38.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody that is related to the Governor of Illinois. She

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01:41:38.840 --> 01:41:42.079
<v Speaker 2>says that Penny Pritzker is a Democrat operative. Well, that

1515
01:41:42.239 --> 01:41:47.520
<v Speaker 2>is true. The entire is even worse. That whole family

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01:41:48.520 --> 01:41:53.840
<v Speaker 2>are gendercrat operatives. The Pritzker family is heavily, heavily, heavily

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01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:56.199
<v Speaker 2>into this training stuff. As a matter of fact, if

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01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:59.000
<v Speaker 2>you look at a picture of the Governor of Illinois

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01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:04.399
<v Speaker 2>and his cousin, they are dead ringers, except one of

1520
01:42:04.399 --> 01:42:06.920
<v Speaker 2>them is dressed like a woman. It's like the Beverly

1521
01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Hillbillies when Jethrow and Jethreen were there, right, they dressed up,

1522
01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:18.399
<v Speaker 2>They dressed up Max Bears as Jethreen. And see the

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01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:20.760
<v Speaker 2>pictures of Pritzker and his cousin next to each other.

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01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:24.359
<v Speaker 2>That's what it looks like. It looks that weird episode

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01:42:24.399 --> 01:42:31.840
<v Speaker 2>of the Beverly Hillbillies. Anyway, And she said that Pritsker,

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01:42:32.840 --> 01:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>in a Democrat operative, is driving the university into financial ruin,

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01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:41.840
<v Speaker 2>among many other complaints. Well that all sounds valid, now

1528
01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:45.479
<v Speaker 2>what the Atlantic says. So in other words, that's her

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01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>beef with it. She didn't anywhere in there, Mitchen, at

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01:42:49.640 --> 01:42:51.079
<v Speaker 2>least what they were talking about. She had all these

1531
01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:55.560
<v Speaker 2>other things there about they were political in their perspective,

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01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:58.239
<v Speaker 2>so they said, so, now the mask is off. Aside

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01:42:58.239 --> 01:43:03.159
<v Speaker 2>from only one oblique reference two congressional hearings about anti Semitism,

1534
01:43:03.199 --> 01:43:09.399
<v Speaker 2>saying the great work of Congresswoman Elise Stephanic, aside from that,

1535
01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the letter is silent on the subject. The administration is

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01:43:11.920 --> 01:43:14.680
<v Speaker 2>no longer pretending that it is standing up for Jewish students.

1537
01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:17.039
<v Speaker 2>The project has been revealed for what it is, an

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01:43:17.039 --> 01:43:21.800
<v Speaker 2>effort to punish liberal institutions for the crime of being liberal. Well, no, actually,

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01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:24.800
<v Speaker 2>it's yeah, I guess you could say that's true. I

1540
01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:26.880
<v Speaker 2>wish they would punish them for the crime of taking

1541
01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:30.039
<v Speaker 2>federal money, because I think that's a crime. It's a

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01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:32.760
<v Speaker 2>crime against the taxpayer, it's a crime against the constitution.

1543
01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I wish they would cut off all the federal money

1544
01:43:35.319 --> 01:43:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to all of them. Unfortunately, the Trump administration if they

1545
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:41.840
<v Speaker 2>can bend them to their will on a number of issues,

1546
01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and they will restore that money that they've stolen from

1547
01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the taxpayers that they have printed up and charged US

1548
01:43:48.039 --> 01:43:50.600
<v Speaker 2>interest on the debt. On MARSA thirty first, the administration

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01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:53.640
<v Speaker 2>said that it was reviewing nine billion dollars in federal

1550
01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:57.600
<v Speaker 2>grants and contracts were to Harvard. They said, amongst other things,

1551
01:43:57.640 --> 01:43:59.880
<v Speaker 2>they were going to allow an external body to audit

1552
01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:04.079
<v Speaker 2>faculty viewpoints. How dare them? Can you imagine that that

1553
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:06.039
<v Speaker 2>they would give them nine billion dollars and then have

1554
01:44:06.079 --> 01:44:09.880
<v Speaker 2>the effrontery to audit that to see how it's being spent.

1555
01:44:10.840 --> 01:44:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean that they're Harvard. They should just get nine

1556
01:44:13.399 --> 01:44:17.880
<v Speaker 2>billion dollars with a b from people. This is too

1557
01:44:17.960 --> 01:44:22.239
<v Speaker 2>much for Harvard, said The Atlantic. The university's lawyers wrote

1558
01:44:22.239 --> 01:44:25.359
<v Speaker 2>in a letter and said, neither Harvard nor any other

1559
01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:28.560
<v Speaker 2>private university can allow itself to be taken over by

1560
01:44:28.600 --> 01:44:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the federal government. Well you did, You allowed yourself to

1561
01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:33.600
<v Speaker 2>be taken over by the federal government. I guess when

1562
01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:36.560
<v Speaker 2>you've got nine billion dollars, you're on the hook to them.

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01:44:38.520 --> 01:44:40.199
<v Speaker 2>I guess they feel like they're going to get away

1564
01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:41.680
<v Speaker 2>with it. And of course they have been able to

1565
01:44:41.680 --> 01:44:45.920
<v Speaker 2>get away without any audits or any inspections. But you know,

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01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:49.800
<v Speaker 2>we have as we look at Texas and other places.

1567
01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Now they've rolled out a lot of school choice bills.

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01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:59.359
<v Speaker 2>They say, paying for you to go to a charter

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01:44:59.439 --> 01:45:02.560
<v Speaker 2>school or something like that. They will give a whopping

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01:45:02.600 --> 01:45:05.640
<v Speaker 2>two thousand dollars a year to people who homeschool with students.

1571
01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Are you going to sell your control and your liberty

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01:45:11.439 --> 01:45:15.439
<v Speaker 2>for two thousand dollars a year for your child? Because

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01:45:15.479 --> 01:45:19.560
<v Speaker 2>they will pull in those same strings, those same financial

1574
01:45:19.560 --> 01:45:24.039
<v Speaker 2>strings that they're trying to tug on with with Harvard.

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01:45:24.119 --> 01:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>They will absolutely pull that in before we go to break.

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01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:31.119
<v Speaker 2>On Rumble One, Sarah B says, they've been convinced that

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01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:32.600
<v Speaker 2>they can't figure the life out on their own and

1578
01:45:32.600 --> 01:45:34.520
<v Speaker 2>they need an expert to tell them what they're talking about,

1579
01:45:34.520 --> 01:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>the psychiatrists. Yeah, on Rumble OUTI Modern Retro Radio. Good

1580
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:43.720
<v Speaker 2>to see you, Modern Retro Radio dot com. But Trump

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01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:48.159
<v Speaker 2>will continue funding the Palestinian genocide, that's right. Yeah, we'll

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01:45:48.159 --> 01:45:50.680
<v Speaker 2>give them the bombs. We'll give them the bombs. You

1583
01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:52.439
<v Speaker 2>might stop the bombs with him, and but we'll give

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01:45:52.479 --> 01:45:53.880
<v Speaker 2>them the bombs. And of course, you know, we see

1585
01:45:53.920 --> 01:45:58.359
<v Speaker 2>these pullbacks and we see them they so called talks

1586
01:45:58.399 --> 01:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>with Iran. I think they're just laying a foundation to say,

1587
01:46:02.880 --> 01:46:05.439
<v Speaker 2>now we have justification because they broke this agreement or

1588
01:46:05.479 --> 01:46:09.840
<v Speaker 2>whatever to attack your want. On Rumble Shadow Boxers says

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01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:13.359
<v Speaker 2>bombs only have value when they're used because then you

1590
01:46:13.399 --> 01:46:15.920
<v Speaker 2>need to replace them. It's very profitable. Yeah, it is.

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01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:19.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just like these Reaper drones that were shooting down

1592
01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:22.640
<v Speaker 2>at thirty million apiece. I think they shot down over seventeen.

1593
01:46:22.680 --> 01:46:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I know they shot down at least seventeen. I don't

1594
01:46:24.359 --> 01:46:27.079
<v Speaker 2>know if they got some after that. But yeah, you

1595
01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:32.159
<v Speaker 2>got to replace those repertrones. And it's a small country

1596
01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:35.319
<v Speaker 2>that's doing that. On Rumble, Franson says, before Ukraine War,

1597
01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I saw what Ukrainians were doing to Russians. Putin had

1598
01:46:37.960 --> 01:46:41.319
<v Speaker 2>no choice but to intervene. And again it goes back

1599
01:46:41.319 --> 01:46:45.359
<v Speaker 2>a long ways. I mean we had after twenty fourteen coup,

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01:46:46.239 --> 01:46:51.359
<v Speaker 2>they started sholling people in the culturally and linguistically Russian

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01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:55.479
<v Speaker 2>areas that had always historically been Russian, and so, yeah,

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01:46:56.439 --> 01:46:58.199
<v Speaker 2>this is the type of thing that's going on. There

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01:46:58.239 --> 01:47:01.239
<v Speaker 2>was also a military issue there. Crimere had long been

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01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:04.319
<v Speaker 2>a part of Russia. The Black Fleet was there, so

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01:47:04.399 --> 01:47:05.920
<v Speaker 2>they were going to do it. I still thought that

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01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:09.439
<v Speaker 2>it was a mistake for him to essentially take the

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01:47:09.479 --> 01:47:11.920
<v Speaker 2>bait and go in, because you know that everybody's going

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01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to say, well, he know, this is when everything starts.

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01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:18.159
<v Speaker 2>It all starts when he crosses the border and the

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01:47:18.199 --> 01:47:23.520
<v Speaker 2>same way that in the American people's minds. Iran began

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01:47:23.720 --> 01:47:27.119
<v Speaker 2>with a takeover of the US embassy. Then it realized

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01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:30.119
<v Speaker 2>that the CIA had kicked out they're elected leader in

1613
01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:32.600
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen fifties and put in a ruthless shaw of Iran,

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01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:37.359
<v Speaker 2>and the CIA trained his secret police to spy on people,

1615
01:47:37.439 --> 01:47:42.159
<v Speaker 2>to torture and to kill them his political enemies. All

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01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:45.039
<v Speaker 2>of that is lost on the American people. So again,

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01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:49.039
<v Speaker 2>as I said, when you pick the starting point, one

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01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>side or the other can always justify it. The only

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01:47:50.800 --> 01:47:52.239
<v Speaker 2>way that we're ever going to get peace, though, is

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01:47:52.279 --> 01:47:56.279
<v Speaker 2>if we move toward That is our goal, not to

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01:47:56.319 --> 01:48:00.960
<v Speaker 2>fix blame, not to point to atrocities, but to stop them,

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01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:08.279
<v Speaker 2>to stop them, kick asat attacks as first casual who

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01:48:08.279 --> 01:48:10.840
<v Speaker 2>war is the truth, that's right and unrumbled DG eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, says David Mark Levin. Has An had an

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01:48:14.119 --> 01:48:17.720
<v Speaker 2>absolute meltdown yesterday over that he attacked Little Marco for

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01:48:17.720 --> 01:48:20.319
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes yesterday. My ears are still bleeding from listening

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01:48:20.319 --> 01:48:22.479
<v Speaker 2>to him. Well, my ears bleed whenever I listen to

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01:48:22.479 --> 01:48:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Mark Levin. It's a bit much for me to take.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the David Knight Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I said at the beginning of the program, there's an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing example of how crypto, especially these meme coins, are

1633
01:50:17.079 --> 01:50:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a pump and dump. And we've talked to the last

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01:50:19.840 --> 01:50:24.159
<v Speaker 2>couple of days about how Trump is openly, openly flirting

1635
01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:29.279
<v Speaker 2>with being impeached over the open corruption that's there. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's an example. The meme coin, the Trump meme coin

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01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that was put out like any or so before the election,

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<v Speaker 2>and they pumped it up and then made a lot

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01:50:38.079 --> 01:50:40.039
<v Speaker 2>of money off of it because you have a few

1640
01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:43.439
<v Speaker 2>people who can buy into this before it goes public,

1641
01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:48.600
<v Speaker 2>and then it goes public, and then everybody buys into

1642
01:50:48.640 --> 01:50:50.680
<v Speaker 2>this thing, and then before it goes down they can

1643
01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:54.359
<v Speaker 2>they can dump it. So here's the here's the statistics

1644
01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>on who made money and who lost money. You've had

1645
01:51:00.239 --> 01:51:06.840
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred and sixty four thousand people have lost money.

1646
01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:12.439
<v Speaker 2>So you've got three quarters of a million people lost money,

1647
01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:19.039
<v Speaker 2>and they had fifty eight fifty eight thousand, now fifty

1648
01:51:19.079 --> 01:51:24.279
<v Speaker 2>eight fifty eight people who made money, and those fifty

1649
01:51:24.319 --> 01:51:26.600
<v Speaker 2>eight people, you got seven hundred and sixty four thousand

1650
01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:33.880
<v Speaker 2>people losing money, and those fifty eight people made millions millions.

1651
01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:36.239
<v Speaker 2>About seven hundred and sixty four thousand wallats it purchased

1652
01:51:36.279 --> 01:51:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Trump's dollar Trump meme coin have lost money on the investment,

1653
01:51:42.359 --> 01:51:48.199
<v Speaker 2>according to fresh data shared with CNMBC by blockchain analytics

1654
01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:55.359
<v Speaker 2>firm Chain Analysis or chain analysis. Chainalysis is why they

1655
01:51:55.399 --> 01:51:57.760
<v Speaker 2>don't have an N in there. Chain Analysis is the

1656
01:51:57.840 --> 01:52:01.359
<v Speaker 2>name of the company. Here's the thing. It's a public ledger.

1657
01:52:02.439 --> 01:52:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Everybody can see these wallets, and with a little bit

1658
01:52:05.640 --> 01:52:07.960
<v Speaker 2>of detective work, they can figure out who these wallets

1659
01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:09.920
<v Speaker 2>belong to. I've talked about this many times as a

1660
01:52:09.920 --> 01:52:13.520
<v Speaker 2>billionaire who lost a nine hundred and something thousand dollars

1661
01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:16.800
<v Speaker 2>almost a million dollars he lost. It was stolen out

1662
01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:20.279
<v Speaker 2>of his digital wallet. But it was a large transaction,

1663
01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:24.239
<v Speaker 2>and so you got people who will watch these transactions happening.

1664
01:52:24.239 --> 01:52:26.399
<v Speaker 2>If they see a big one, they start paying more

1665
01:52:26.399 --> 01:52:29.159
<v Speaker 2>attention to it. And so this person was able to

1666
01:52:29.199 --> 01:52:31.880
<v Speaker 2>not only see this large amount of money nearly a

1667
01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:34.800
<v Speaker 2>million dollars in one transaction coming out of wall but

1668
01:52:34.840 --> 01:52:38.119
<v Speaker 2>then he tracked it down to who owned that wallet,

1669
01:52:39.159 --> 01:52:43.359
<v Speaker 2>just an individual, and he contacted the guy, and the

1670
01:52:43.399 --> 01:52:47.079
<v Speaker 2>guy didn't know he had been ripped off. He didn't know.

1671
01:52:47.319 --> 01:52:49.720
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't him spending it. Somebody had stolen that out

1672
01:52:49.720 --> 01:52:52.199
<v Speaker 2>of his wallet. We had another example last week. We

1673
01:52:52.279 --> 01:52:57.319
<v Speaker 2>talked about somebody that was found as one of the biggest,

1674
01:52:57.359 --> 01:53:02.239
<v Speaker 2>if not the biggest ripoffs in bitcoin yet, three hundred

1675
01:53:02.520 --> 01:53:06.600
<v Speaker 2>million dollars from one elderly individual. And they said it

1676
01:53:06.840 --> 01:53:12.239
<v Speaker 2>was a social engineering type of attack. In other words,

1677
01:53:12.479 --> 01:53:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't that they did some kind of technological thing

1678
01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:19.439
<v Speaker 2>with a crypto breaking into it or something like that. Instead,

1679
01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:22.279
<v Speaker 2>they figured out who it was, They got in touch

1680
01:53:22.279 --> 01:53:25.359
<v Speaker 2>with a person and played some kind of a phishing attack,

1681
01:53:25.439 --> 01:53:29.800
<v Speaker 2>some kind of a game with them on a human level,

1682
01:53:30.359 --> 01:53:33.439
<v Speaker 2>to get them to transfer that money somehow I don't know.

1683
01:53:34.760 --> 01:53:36.840
<v Speaker 2>And then what they did was they transferred it to Monea,

1684
01:53:36.960 --> 01:53:39.279
<v Speaker 2>which is then private once it gets in there, and

1685
01:53:39.279 --> 01:53:40.880
<v Speaker 2>they split it up into a whole bunch of different

1686
01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:43.920
<v Speaker 2>groups of transactions and then scattered it to the win

1687
01:53:44.119 --> 01:53:48.119
<v Speaker 2>essentially and put it into cryptocurrency that can be anonymous.

1688
01:53:48.119 --> 01:53:51.600
<v Speaker 2>But here's the point. When it's on the public ledger,

1689
01:53:51.640 --> 01:53:55.680
<v Speaker 2>it's public. You know, they use the term crypto, but

1690
01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:59.319
<v Speaker 2>the only thing that's encrypted is what they use to

1691
01:53:59.680 --> 01:54:04.199
<v Speaker 2>do the transactional aspect of it, but the actual dollar

1692
01:54:04.239 --> 01:54:06.880
<v Speaker 2>amounts there and the wallets that people can see that's

1693
01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:12.600
<v Speaker 2>not encrypted. So this company called chain Analysis was able

1694
01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:15.399
<v Speaker 2>to look at this and see that they could see

1695
01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:21.560
<v Speaker 2>what the blockchain is. The public ledger is a blockchain,

1696
01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:24.680
<v Speaker 2>a chain of transactions. So they could see what these

1697
01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:26.399
<v Speaker 2>people bought it for and what they sold it for

1698
01:54:28.239 --> 01:54:29.920
<v Speaker 2>or what it is currently at. I guess, I don't

1699
01:54:29.960 --> 01:54:31.640
<v Speaker 2>know if it's necessarily that they sold it, but they

1700
01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:34.079
<v Speaker 2>could look and see at least what they bought it for.

1701
01:54:34.359 --> 01:54:37.079
<v Speaker 2>See they've lost money. Seven hundred and sixty four thousand

1702
01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:39.279
<v Speaker 2>people lost money, And then they could see that there

1703
01:54:39.279 --> 01:54:41.800
<v Speaker 2>were fifty eight people that made money, and they made

1704
01:54:41.840 --> 01:54:43.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money. Most of the wallets that lost

1705
01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:45.800
<v Speaker 2>money held smaller amounts of the token. According to the

1706
01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:51.640
<v Speaker 2>film firms on Chain Analysis, crypto wallets store the keys

1707
01:54:51.680 --> 01:54:55.319
<v Speaker 2>that you need to access and use your cryptocurrency holdings.

1708
01:54:56.359 --> 01:54:58.479
<v Speaker 2>But then here's the other part. The fifty eight people,

1709
01:54:59.239 --> 01:55:03.079
<v Speaker 2>they said eight wallets had made money made more than

1710
01:55:03.479 --> 01:55:09.239
<v Speaker 2>ten million dollars apiece. You had fifty eight people with

1711
01:55:09.359 --> 01:55:14.520
<v Speaker 2>the Trump grift that made more than ten million dollars apiece.

1712
01:55:15.039 --> 01:55:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Seven hundred and sixty four thousand people lost money. Kind

1713
01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:20.159
<v Speaker 2>of reminds me of Stop the Steal and Save America.

1714
01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Trump made two hundred and fifty million dollars and Alex

1715
01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Jones made millions of dollars off the Stop the Steel stuff.

1716
01:55:27.399 --> 01:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>And you've got a lot of people who went to

1717
01:55:29.119 --> 01:55:32.199
<v Speaker 2>jail and had their lives ruined with a January the

1718
01:55:32.239 --> 01:55:37.239
<v Speaker 2>sixth grift. But this is with the crypto stuff. Interest

1719
01:55:37.279 --> 01:55:40.760
<v Speaker 2>in the coin spiked more than fifty percent in the

1720
01:55:40.840 --> 01:55:45.039
<v Speaker 2>last few days after the project's website promised that the

1721
01:55:45.079 --> 01:55:49.039
<v Speaker 2>top two hundred and twenty holders would have a seat

1722
01:55:49.319 --> 01:55:54.359
<v Speaker 2>at a black tie optional dinner with Trump at mar

1723
01:55:54.399 --> 01:55:57.600
<v Speaker 2>A Lago. I mean, you look at how they're flirting

1724
01:55:57.640 --> 01:56:01.239
<v Speaker 2>with corruption, openly flirting with it, just begging for this

1725
01:56:01.479 --> 01:56:06.319
<v Speaker 2>because they know that their base will defend them. Because

1726
01:56:06.319 --> 01:56:09.520
<v Speaker 2>they've seen the Democrats go after them for non crimes,

1727
01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:15.119
<v Speaker 2>they now feel inoculated to commit actual crimes. And so

1728
01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:16.800
<v Speaker 2>when we look at the way that this is being

1729
01:56:16.880 --> 01:56:20.960
<v Speaker 2>all the crypto stuff is being hyped, we got We've

1730
01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:26.199
<v Speaker 2>got an individual saying bitwise is predicting that bitcoin will

1731
01:56:26.239 --> 01:56:29.640
<v Speaker 2>reach a million dollars by twenty twenty nine. You got

1732
01:56:29.640 --> 01:56:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the CIA saying bitcoin is wonderful. The CIA said they're

1733
01:56:33.920 --> 01:56:37.680
<v Speaker 2>increasingly incorporating bitcoin as a tool in their operations, and

1734
01:56:37.720 --> 01:56:42.119
<v Speaker 2>working with cryptocurrency is a matter of national security. So

1735
01:56:42.199 --> 01:56:46.119
<v Speaker 2>here you go. Trump. You know, fifty eight people make

1736
01:56:46.159 --> 01:56:48.119
<v Speaker 2>more than ten million, seven hundred and sixty four thousand

1737
01:56:48.159 --> 01:56:53.840
<v Speaker 2>lose it. You got the CIA saying they love this crypto.

1738
01:56:53.920 --> 01:56:56.239
<v Speaker 2>They love bitcoin. It's a tool for them. They said, yeah,

1739
01:56:56.279 --> 01:56:59.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe they even created it, who knows. I would suggest

1740
01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:01.319
<v Speaker 2>that you go to David Nighttime Gold. You can go

1741
01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:04.039
<v Speaker 2>to Tony Rdman and you can get gold or silver,

1742
01:57:04.119 --> 01:57:06.479
<v Speaker 2>and you can get out of these crazy pump and

1743
01:57:06.640 --> 01:57:11.079
<v Speaker 2>dump schemes that you really cannot control. As I was

1744
01:57:11.119 --> 01:57:14.640
<v Speaker 2>talking about yesterday, everything is going to tokenization. They're moving

1745
01:57:14.640 --> 01:57:17.119
<v Speaker 2>to that really quickly. They're moving to stable coins really

1746
01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:21.960
<v Speaker 2>quickly as well. And they are building They started talking

1747
01:57:22.039 --> 01:57:26.439
<v Speaker 2>about real idea this morning. They're building the framework for

1748
01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:29.680
<v Speaker 2>a global digital currency. They'll be interconnected. They won't necessarily

1749
01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:32.399
<v Speaker 2>be just one, but it'll be one system, and it

1750
01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:34.520
<v Speaker 2>will all have the ability to track everything that you do.

1751
01:57:34.720 --> 01:57:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Did you make money, did you lose money. They'll be

1752
01:57:37.319 --> 01:57:39.920
<v Speaker 2>able to stop you from buying stuff and have all

1753
01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:43.720
<v Speaker 2>the features that we hate about CBDC, but hey, it

1754
01:57:43.760 --> 01:57:46.680
<v Speaker 2>won't be called CBDC and it won't be done by

1755
01:57:46.680 --> 01:57:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the central bank. There'll be a collection of fascist coins,

1756
01:57:51.039 --> 01:57:55.600
<v Speaker 2>so I should call it fascist coins, a merger of

1757
01:57:55.960 --> 01:58:00.840
<v Speaker 2>corporations and friends of friends of the president who will

1758
01:58:00.840 --> 01:58:03.720
<v Speaker 2>set up private coins that'll have the same functionality as

1759
01:58:03.760 --> 01:58:07.840
<v Speaker 2>a central bank digital currency. The EU is going to

1760
01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:11.439
<v Speaker 2>as a matter of fact, ban anonymous crypto accounts as

1761
01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:16.479
<v Speaker 2>well as privacy coins by twenty twenty seven. So as

1762
01:58:16.520 --> 01:58:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, you have Monaro and a few others,

1763
01:58:18.680 --> 01:58:22.520
<v Speaker 2>pirate coin, others. They're going to start banning that. Well again,

1764
01:58:22.720 --> 01:58:25.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sure people be able to operate under that,

1765
01:58:25.439 --> 01:58:26.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's going to get more and more difficult to

1766
01:58:26.960 --> 01:58:29.479
<v Speaker 2>try to get the money into it or out of it.

1767
01:58:29.479 --> 01:58:30.960
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be the on ramps and the off

1768
01:58:31.039 --> 01:58:34.239
<v Speaker 2>ramps that are going to be difficult to do. You know,

1769
01:58:34.319 --> 01:58:38.000
<v Speaker 2>But we've seen how bans and prohibitions work when we

1770
01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:41.159
<v Speaker 2>look at the drug war. It'll still be there, but

1771
01:58:41.239 --> 01:58:44.039
<v Speaker 2>it'll be a bit more difficult and it'll have higher

1772
01:58:44.079 --> 01:58:46.920
<v Speaker 2>consequences if you get caught, because right now it's not

1773
01:58:46.960 --> 01:58:48.920
<v Speaker 2>even a crime to use that stuff, and it shouldn't

1774
01:58:49.159 --> 01:58:53.000
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be a crime to have a private financial transaction.

1775
01:58:53.239 --> 01:58:55.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what they're going to outlaw. The EU wants to

1776
01:58:55.960 --> 01:59:00.199
<v Speaker 2>ban privacy. They want to ban privacy coins and do

1777
01:59:00.239 --> 01:59:06.920
<v Speaker 2>it within two years. They want to ban anonymity and folks,

1778
01:59:06.920 --> 01:59:10.079
<v Speaker 2>that means that they also want to ban cash, and

1779
01:59:10.119 --> 01:59:12.720
<v Speaker 2>they will eventually try to ban gold. But if you

1780
01:59:12.800 --> 01:59:15.880
<v Speaker 2>got something that is physical like that, it's a lot

1781
01:59:15.920 --> 01:59:18.479
<v Speaker 2>harder for them to do it. Ether is more like

1782
01:59:18.520 --> 01:59:23.920
<v Speaker 2>a meme coin, says a trading firm as Ethereum drops

1783
01:59:24.319 --> 01:59:27.680
<v Speaker 2>forty five percent year to date, so it's not having

1784
01:59:27.800 --> 01:59:32.279
<v Speaker 2>a good year so far. Stocks spike as Treasury Secretary

1785
01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Vessin says that trade deals are coming and so as

1786
01:59:37.199 --> 01:59:41.239
<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, today the Federal Federal Reserves Open

1787
01:59:41.279 --> 01:59:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Market Committee is meeting to talk about interest rates. That'll

1788
01:59:43.880 --> 01:59:47.600
<v Speaker 2>be happening today. A Treasury Secretary Vessin began as testimony

1789
01:59:47.640 --> 01:59:51.039
<v Speaker 2>in front of the US House Appropriations Committee yesterday and

1790
01:59:51.079 --> 01:59:53.800
<v Speaker 2>according to him, he said, the US is negotiating with

1791
01:59:53.840 --> 01:59:57.720
<v Speaker 2>seventeen out of eighteen key trade partners. In other words,

1792
01:59:57.720 --> 02:00:01.800
<v Speaker 2>they're negotiating with everybody but China. But here's the other issue.

1793
02:00:01.840 --> 02:00:03.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, we talk about this and a lot of

1794
02:00:03.199 --> 02:00:06.399
<v Speaker 2>people and I had a listener supporter who said, well,

1795
02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a good thing to cut Chinea out.

1796
02:00:08.600 --> 02:00:12.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a China supporter at all. But the issue

1797
02:00:12.199 --> 02:00:16.159
<v Speaker 2>is what about those other seventeen right. This was not

1798
02:00:17.039 --> 02:00:21.439
<v Speaker 2>targeted to protect a particular industry. This is not targeted

1799
02:00:21.439 --> 02:00:25.479
<v Speaker 2>towards China. It was targeted towards the entire world. Trump

1800
02:00:25.520 --> 02:00:27.680
<v Speaker 2>went to war with the entire world, and now they've

1801
02:00:27.680 --> 02:00:31.079
<v Speaker 2>got to try to back this back. I'll walk it back,

1802
02:00:31.279 --> 02:00:35.079
<v Speaker 2>so we'll see what happens. But in the meantime, in

1803
02:00:35.119 --> 02:00:41.199
<v Speaker 2>the meantime, the real issue is throwing a monkey wrench

1804
02:00:41.279 --> 02:00:43.359
<v Speaker 2>into the supply chain again, which is what he did

1805
02:00:43.439 --> 02:00:46.479
<v Speaker 2>five years ago. That's my real issue. As I said,

1806
02:00:46.520 --> 02:00:49.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't have an axe to grind with tariffs, per se.

1807
02:00:49.359 --> 02:00:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I think they're better way to collect taxes than the

1808
02:00:51.760 --> 02:00:56.079
<v Speaker 2>income tax. However, they're being added in addition to the

1809
02:00:56.079 --> 02:00:59.119
<v Speaker 2>income tax. Now Trump will lie to your face. He'll

1810
02:00:59.159 --> 02:01:01.479
<v Speaker 2>tell you it's not going to cause your price, and

1811
02:01:01.800 --> 02:01:03.399
<v Speaker 2>the people who are circuits for him will lie to

1812
02:01:03.439 --> 02:01:05.119
<v Speaker 2>your face and tell you prices are not going to

1813
02:01:05.159 --> 02:01:06.800
<v Speaker 2>go up. Yeah, they are going to go up. The

1814
02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:09.920
<v Speaker 2>only question is how much, And of course that's going

1815
02:01:09.960 --> 02:01:13.760
<v Speaker 2>to depend on a lot of different factors. Some instances

1816
02:01:13.760 --> 02:01:16.920
<v Speaker 2>will be very significant. But the price is going to up.

1817
02:01:17.039 --> 02:01:19.319
<v Speaker 2>But you're not allowed to know how much the price

1818
02:01:19.359 --> 02:01:20.600
<v Speaker 2>is going to go up. So we're going to come

1819
02:01:20.640 --> 02:01:25.399
<v Speaker 2>after anybody who itemizes it, like it was rumored that

1820
02:01:25.520 --> 02:01:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Amazon was going to do. So if the price isn't

1821
02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:32.760
<v Speaker 2>going to go up, then why get angry about Jeff

1822
02:01:32.760 --> 02:01:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Bezos itemizing it? And so what it is is an

1823
02:01:36.399 --> 02:01:40.439
<v Speaker 2>additional tax. But the real issue, the real issue is

1824
02:01:40.479 --> 02:01:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the lack of planning, the lack of you know, war

1825
02:01:45.800 --> 02:01:50.520
<v Speaker 2>gaming this out, and the constant change that has created

1826
02:01:50.680 --> 02:01:54.920
<v Speaker 2>uncertainty that has locked down the supply chains. So he says,

1827
02:01:55.039 --> 02:01:58.960
<v Speaker 2>we've not engaged with China in negotiations, so they're the

1828
02:01:59.239 --> 02:02:02.960
<v Speaker 2>eighteenth country that they have not negotiated with. He suggested

1829
02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:06.680
<v Speaker 2>that the first quarter GDP, however, will be revised upward

1830
02:02:06.760 --> 02:02:13.560
<v Speaker 2>and that we are not in a recession, said Besant, Well, again,

1831
02:02:13.640 --> 02:02:19.720
<v Speaker 2>they control the They control of the statistics that are

1832
02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:22.560
<v Speaker 2>out there, and they will rig those numbers. They can.

1833
02:02:22.640 --> 02:02:26.359
<v Speaker 2>They will lie to you about inflation Biden did Trump

1834
02:02:26.479 --> 02:02:28.600
<v Speaker 2>did they all do? They'll lie to you about the

1835
02:02:28.640 --> 02:02:31.399
<v Speaker 2>inflation numbers. They will lie to you about the employment numbers.

1836
02:02:31.479 --> 02:02:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Every quarter, they will revise the unemployment. This has been

1837
02:02:35.479 --> 02:02:38.840
<v Speaker 2>going on Republican Democrat for a very long time. They'll

1838
02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:44.760
<v Speaker 2>always revise the previous quarter's numbers downward to make the

1839
02:02:44.800 --> 02:02:51.279
<v Speaker 2>current numbers look better. And Biden famously got caught adding

1840
02:02:52.399 --> 02:02:54.520
<v Speaker 2>over eight hundred almost nine hundred. I think it's eight

1841
02:02:54.600 --> 02:02:58.199
<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty thousand jobs that didn't exist to their

1842
02:02:58.279 --> 02:03:00.800
<v Speaker 2>labor reports. They could play the same game. Who knows.

1843
02:03:01.880 --> 02:03:05.880
<v Speaker 2>The stock market is not really an accurate metric of that.

1844
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<v Speaker 2>What we should look at is whether we have small

1845
02:03:09.880 --> 02:03:13.479
<v Speaker 2>medium sized businesses failing because of this uncertainty and the

1846
02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:15.680
<v Speaker 2>supply chain. He also said that the US, listen to this,

1847
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<v Speaker 2>will quote never default on its debt and that the

1848
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<v Speaker 2>Treasury will not use gimmicks on the debt ceiling. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I can believe that they would never default. I would

1850
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<v Speaker 2>imagine that they would just you know, devalue the dollar

1851
02:03:29.119 --> 02:03:31.880
<v Speaker 2>or play games like that with it. But in terms

1852
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<v Speaker 2>of not using gimmicks, well, he's lying, because that's all

1853
02:03:34.760 --> 02:03:37.760
<v Speaker 2>they do is use gimmicks. And again that's not just

1854
02:03:37.840 --> 02:03:40.920
<v Speaker 2>a Trump administration, that's all of them. We're going to

1855
02:03:40.920 --> 02:03:44.000
<v Speaker 2>be shedding excess labor on the government side, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>we will have a substantial financial deregulatory agenda that will

1857
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<v Speaker 2>be coming up. Yeah, you better believe that they are

1858
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<v Speaker 2>going to liberalize any rules about crypto, about tokenization, and

1859
02:03:57.479 --> 02:03:59.840
<v Speaker 2>all the rest of this stuff. So they might have

1860
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<v Speaker 2>lot of financial deregulation, but in terms of deregulating the

1861
02:04:04.399 --> 02:04:07.479
<v Speaker 2>rules that allow people to open and create and continue

1862
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<v Speaker 2>to run businesses, I don't think they're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>anything about that. But they will be shedding excess labor

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<v Speaker 2>on the government side. And I said that this is

1865
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<v Speaker 2>what Musk's moves were all about from the first place,

1866
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<v Speaker 2>to minimize the number of government employees, but to maximize governance.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe that'll be done with the application of

1868
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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence. Community banks, he said, small banks, small regional

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02:04:34.439 --> 02:04:37.960
<v Speaker 2>banks were very near what I would call an extinction

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<v Speaker 2>event in the next four to five years. Well, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that interesting Because Eric Trump was saying the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and so was Whitcoff Junior, his partner. They were all

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<v Speaker 2>setting themselves themselves up with world financial liberty or world

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<v Speaker 2>world liberty, financial I guess the Trump organ Trump family,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. And in terms of talking about that, Eric

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<v Speaker 2>Trump was saying, well, they'll most likely be gone in

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. Well bestent is saying four to five years,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is not even necessarily looking at their exposure

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<v Speaker 2>to commercial real estate laws. We'll see what happens with

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<v Speaker 2>the banks. But what he's talking about, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at these things together, they're going to have substantial financial

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02:05:24.239 --> 02:05:32.319
<v Speaker 2>deregulatory agenda, and banks, community banks, small banks, small regional banks,

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<v Speaker 2>and extinction event in the next four to five years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they're engineering. They're going to make themselves, the banks,

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<v Speaker 2>the people who cause seven hundred and sixty four thousand

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02:05:45.039 --> 02:05:47.000
<v Speaker 2>people lose money in fifty eight people to make over

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<v Speaker 2>ten million dollars apiece. Trump wants the FED to cut

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<v Speaker 2>rates today when they meet, and so the general take

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<v Speaker 2>from the financial writers is that that's not like to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>They say it's a ninety seven percent likelihood that the

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<v Speaker 2>Fed's going to maintain the current interest rates where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, however, that they think that when they come

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<v Speaker 2>back in July July thirtieth meeting that the probability of

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<v Speaker 2>right cut there is currently at eighty percent, says fed Watch. Well,

1895
02:06:18.279 --> 02:06:21.319
<v Speaker 2>nobody knows. Nobody knows what Jerome Powell is going to

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<v Speaker 2>do anymore, they know what Trump's going to do with

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<v Speaker 2>a teriffs. Everybody just sits there with baited breath to

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<v Speaker 2>see what these guys are going to do. So on Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Trump said on a social media platform Truth Social,

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<v Speaker 2>he said there is no inflation. All uppercase, claimed that

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<v Speaker 2>grocery and egg prices have fallen, that gas has dropped

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02:06:39.840 --> 02:06:43.159
<v Speaker 2>a dollar ninety eight gallon. Well, those claims are not

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02:06:43.319 --> 02:06:45.680
<v Speaker 2>entirely true. Grocery prices have jumped up a half a

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<v Speaker 2>percent in two of the past three months and are

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<v Speaker 2>up two point four percent from a year ago. Gas

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<v Speaker 2>and all prices, however, have declined. Gas costs are down

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02:06:54.520 --> 02:06:57.920
<v Speaker 2>ten percent from a year ago, continuing a longer running

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02:06:57.960 --> 02:07:01.039
<v Speaker 2>trend that has continued in part because the fears that

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<v Speaker 2>the economy will weaken because why well, because we've got

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02:07:04.960 --> 02:07:09.199
<v Speaker 2>higher taxes and because we've got supply chain disruptions. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when you interject a sudden shock to the system,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you add to that sudden shock indecision and

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02:07:19.640 --> 02:07:26.239
<v Speaker 2>constantly fluctuating policies. So, uh yeah, you got you got

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of Uh Trav's got a picture of his

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<v Speaker 2>son from yesterday. Yesterday it was his six month birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we had a little bit of a celebration there.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to show people that picture, that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh yeah, do you have it ready? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. There he is, that's he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>half hat and they gave him some cake. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really know what to do with it. He's not used

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<v Speaker 2>to eating that stuff. Actually. Uh So that was, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we yesterday. I'm going to continue without a

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<v Speaker 2>break because we've got a break coming up in about

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes. Our interview is about forty six minutes or

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<v Speaker 2>so that we had with Chris Emory about the Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 2>City bombing, and it's an excellent interview. It was pre recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say this because I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the money with Harvard and the other stuff, the

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<v Speaker 2>financial strings. This is an article from WNG dot org

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<v Speaker 2>said his homeschooling increases, so do the attempts to restrict it.

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<v Speaker 2>Proposals for regulations are popping up throughout the US and

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<v Speaker 2>throughout Britain as well. And they begin by talking about

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<v Speaker 2>a mother who's educating her son at home and started

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<v Speaker 2>about seven years ago, now he's thirteen. They said the

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<v Speaker 2>school days might involve taking him to the museum, to

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02:08:52.319 --> 02:08:55.479
<v Speaker 2>the Natural History Museum, other things like that. They use

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<v Speaker 2>some textbooks to guide his education. But they described the

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02:08:58.039 --> 02:09:01.880
<v Speaker 2>curriculum as quote unquote flexible. What we would say here

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02:09:02.039 --> 02:09:05.520
<v Speaker 2>in the US would call that kind of unschooled. It

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<v Speaker 2>allows for unscheduled visits to the library or to the

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria Tower gardens beside the Houses of Parliament. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>we do a lot of this informal learning that actually

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<v Speaker 2>ends up turning into bigger learning. But now the British

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<v Speaker 2>government wants a lot of reports and paperwork about what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing, your curriculum, your activity and all the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff. This is a bill that is scheduled

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<v Speaker 2>for a second reading in the House of Lords. Legislation would,

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<v Speaker 2>among a host of other stipulations, require homeschooling parents to

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<v Speaker 2>provide extensive documentation of the curriculum plans, to notify authorities

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<v Speaker 2>of any changes in the plans within fifteen days. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>my home education journey will be completely changed if this passes,

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<v Speaker 2>and so she would have the time consuming burden of

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<v Speaker 2>reporting all education plan adjustments to the government, the burden

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<v Speaker 2>people with all kinds of reports and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a way of shutting it down passively, passively, aggressively.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is not just happening in the UK. You

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<v Speaker 2>have lawmakers in the US have been calling for more accountability,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that homeschooling movement has compounded the risk of child abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing could be further from the truth. If you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the statistics, that is absolutely not true. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the continued reports of what is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when you have some kind of a pedophile teacher

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<v Speaker 2>that uses their influence with the kids, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the institutional curriculum, it is pedophilia. It is pushing

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<v Speaker 2>pornography and sexual acts to minors the very institution. Not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about individual teachers, but it has been institutionalized, the

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<v Speaker 2>pedophilia and the perversion. But in the UK they have

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<v Speaker 2>a nineteen ninety six Education Acts as parents have to

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<v Speaker 2>provide a suitable education for their children quote either by

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<v Speaker 2>regular attendants at a school or otherwise. So it's pretty open.

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<v Speaker 2>Children who have never been enrolled in public schools are

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<v Speaker 2>automatically considered to be home educated. In the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>though homeschooling became officially legal in all fifty states by

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<v Speaker 2>the early nineties, laws differ very much by state. According

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<v Speaker 2>to Homeschool Legal Defense Association, some states have low regulations,

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<v Speaker 2>while four have rigorous restrictions. Parents in Pennsylvania have to

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02:11:28.680 --> 02:11:33.159
<v Speaker 2>notify local school superintendents of their intent to homeschool, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course we see in some Republican oriented states. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really surprising to see this. In January and New Hampshire,

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<v Speaker 2>they introduced a bill calling for home education programs that

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02:11:45.399 --> 02:11:50.119
<v Speaker 2>are receiving tax credits or scholarships to participate in having

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<v Speaker 2>criminal background checks. Already, the strings are there, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 2>In Indiana, a bill introduced this year would prevent chronically

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<v Speaker 2>absent students from withdrawing from public schools unless the parents

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<v Speaker 2>submit a curriculum plan and progress reports to the school superintendent.

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<v Speaker 2>In Illinois, which currently has no notification requirement, lawmakers are

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<v Speaker 2>considering a bill that would require parents to provide local

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<v Speaker 2>school districts with a declaration of intent to homeschool. An

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma bill requires parents to declare intent to homeschool and

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<v Speaker 2>disclose the names of everyone involved with their children's education. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>three of those four states are Republican states. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at how this is rolling out in

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<v Speaker 2>Texas As I said, there are there are money bills

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<v Speaker 2>that will be giving a subsidy, and Governor Abbott has

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<v Speaker 2>signed this bill into a law. You know, we go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the film Killing Ed. It's a great example

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<v Speaker 2>of charter schools going wrong, being taken over by an

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<v Speaker 2>Islamic cleric, Fatala Gulin, who recently passed away, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Glennist movement is still alive. They've got over eighty three

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<v Speaker 2>schools in Texas. Over a billion dollars they're getting in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a worst case example of this. But of course

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<v Speaker 2>many of the corporations are also equally bad. But what

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<v Speaker 2>they've decided that they're going to do is they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to give ten thousand dollars per year to kids if

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<v Speaker 2>they go to these charter schools. And again they can

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<v Speaker 2>buy you for two thousand dollars if you are a homeschooler.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a trap. It is a trap. Do not

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<v Speaker 2>sell your heritage or freedom, Do not sell your children

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<v Speaker 2>for two thousand dollars a year or even for more.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't take the money. The money is a trap, absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>a trap. Well, we're going to go to our interview

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<v Speaker 2>with Chris Emory and I think you're going to find

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<v Speaker 2>this very interesting about Oklahoma City bombing. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>begin with a clip, and I think you've got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think think you're going to have to throw to it, Travis.

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<v Speaker 2>We began with a trailer of the film to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of give you an overall interview, but we went back

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<v Speaker 2>and we talked about all the different aspects of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's some new evidence that Chris Hemrie, who has

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<v Speaker 2>become a real expert on the Oklahoma City bombing, some

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<v Speaker 2>new evidences there and they're putting together an effort to

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<v Speaker 2>try to fund more research into it. And he'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how you can get involved with that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go ahead and throw to the interview. I

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<v Speaker 2>my desk there on the eighth floor. I felt that

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<v Speaker 2>the building starts shaking, lights went out before started falling

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<v Speaker 2>on my desk. Something hit me in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>the head and knocked me out before the truck bomb

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<v Speaker 2>went off. What that tells is that there were other

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<v Speaker 2>explosive devices in the building that actually brought the building down.

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<v Speaker 14>It's an earthquake. Everybody get down underneath on the floor.

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<v Speaker 14>And I had sat there and I thought, no, it

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<v Speaker 14>doesn't feel like an earthquake. Seven or eight seconds later,

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<v Speaker 14>I felt this explosion.

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<v Speaker 15>Only an imbecile would look at that damage pattern and

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<v Speaker 15>not understand that it couldn't have been made by a

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<v Speaker 15>truck bomb, because the truck bomb is going to release

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<v Speaker 15>its energy simultaneously in every direction.

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<v Speaker 8>The record clearly shows that doctor Johlly and West consult

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<v Speaker 8>the Timothy mcveigh's defense team. Doctor West had previously been

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<v Speaker 8>psychiatrist and consulted for Patty Hurst. Surround Saron and Jack.

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<v Speaker 5>Ruby, A noble lie, Oklahoma City, nineteen ninety five will

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<v Speaker 5>change forever the way you look at the true nature

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<v Speaker 5>of terrorism.

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<v Speaker 14>The grand jury did not want to hear anything I

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<v Speaker 14>had to say.

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<v Speaker 3>The decision was made not to pursue anymore of those individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>The greatest Manhut has ever been.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you remember that water investigation in Arkansas?

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<v Speaker 3>Although the pay for work was stored in the Marrabeli Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody new ben fire domby three.

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<v Speaker 1>Every bit of important evidence has brought us to the

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City.

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<v Speaker 5>Bombing Expose the Cover Up now at a nobleli dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining us now is Chris Emory of Freemindfilms dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>and we wanted to talk to him about an update

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<v Speaker 2>to the Oklahoma City bombing. A very important film was done,

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02:16:25.840 --> 02:16:27.279
<v Speaker 2>I guess is now. The first one was done in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven. They've done some updates to it. The most

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<v Speaker 2>recent one was twenty fifteen. That was the twentieth anniversary

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<v Speaker 2>of the Oklahoma City bombing. We've just hit the thirtieth

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing and there is new

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<v Speaker 2>information and they're talking about doing a new investigation. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get that information from Chris Emory of Freemindfilms

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris David, thank you so much. It's great to be

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<v Speaker 3>talking to you again. It's been a while, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Has it has I remember talking about this so many times,

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<v Speaker 2>very important film, and we played the trailer just before

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<v Speaker 2>the interview so people can get a cent of it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many different issues with what happened with Oklahoma City,

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02:17:06.399 --> 02:17:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and and of course reached from the very beginning part

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<v Speaker 2>of a long chain of questionable events for many of us,

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02:17:14.280 --> 02:17:17.520
<v Speaker 2>going back to Waco and Ruby Ridge, and then this

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you know was obviously it was connected,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it was connected by the government to

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02:17:22.879 --> 02:17:26.000
<v Speaker 2>shut that investigation down. But then we have the other

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<v Speaker 2>events that were connect We had nine to eleven dark Winter,

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic, all these different types of things. Once people

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<v Speaker 2>realize with any of these that we have been lied

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02:17:35.159 --> 02:17:37.399
<v Speaker 2>to and deceived and they start to see how this

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02:17:37.479 --> 02:17:41.479
<v Speaker 2>agenda kind of lines up through these different things, then

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<v Speaker 2>that is when the lights come on and people start

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02:17:43.799 --> 02:17:46.399
<v Speaker 2>to ask some real questions. Is now people are starting

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<v Speaker 2>to ask questions there in Florida tell us at bit

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Well, ever since the new Trump administration was sworn in,

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02:17:55.200 --> 02:17:58.719
<v Speaker 3>we've had a lot of information of course with the

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<v Speaker 3>NIH with the there's fresh blood, and as one of

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02:18:02.879 --> 02:18:06.360
<v Speaker 3>my colleagues in Congress said, well, we've met several press

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02:18:06.360 --> 02:18:08.319
<v Speaker 3>set of eyes on this thing, and they want to

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02:18:08.360 --> 02:18:11.920
<v Speaker 3>basically start from scratch, and they know that there was

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02:18:11.959 --> 02:18:13.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of mal feast that's going on. Merrick Carland,

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02:18:13.920 --> 02:18:17.840
<v Speaker 3>of course, the former US Attorney General. He was appointed

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<v Speaker 3>as a US Special US prosecutor to head up the

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02:18:21.120 --> 02:18:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma City Investigation. Within about a week after the case

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<v Speaker 3>was the bombing happened in April of nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 3>We found out as a film crew. In October of

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three, I had a meeting with Stephen

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<v Speaker 3>Jones' who was mcgae's lead defense counsel. I had a

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<v Speaker 3>meeting at his office and Eded, Oklahoma, and he heard

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<v Speaker 3>through the grapevine that our crew really wanted to do

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02:18:46.120 --> 02:18:50.120
<v Speaker 3>a great job, very professional job, to strip down to

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02:18:50.120 --> 02:18:53.719
<v Speaker 3>the bare bones, find out what really happened, put the

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02:18:54.239 --> 02:18:58.079
<v Speaker 3>official narrative under magnifying glass, and after about ten minutes

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<v Speaker 3>in the film, we tore that apart and started all

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<v Speaker 3>over again. But to back up a second, after about

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<v Speaker 3>a three hour meeting I had with him at his

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02:19:05.920 --> 02:19:10.000
<v Speaker 3>office in north central Oklahoma, he said that he was

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<v Speaker 3>going to give us full and unfettered access to one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty two boxes of legal documents that he

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02:19:15.879 --> 02:19:20.639
<v Speaker 3>had at a repository in Austin, Texas, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>at the law library adjacent to the LBJ Presidential Library

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02:19:24.760 --> 02:19:29.200
<v Speaker 3>north of UT campus. And he said that Merrick Carlin

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02:19:30.399 --> 02:19:35.120
<v Speaker 3>months basically did strongly urged and pleaded with the trial

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<v Speaker 3>Judge Richard P. Mays, who presided over both the Nichols

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<v Speaker 3>and the McVeigh trial, he wanted that information in those

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<v Speaker 3>boxes sealed for seven years, so we were able to

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02:19:46.920 --> 02:19:51.639
<v Speaker 3>gain over ninety percent of that information, including relevant exculpatory

2121
02:19:52.159 --> 02:19:56.600
<v Speaker 3>evidence that would have proven Nichols was completely falled, he

2122
02:19:56.719 --> 02:20:00.959
<v Speaker 3>was innocent and McVeigh was set up. We found out

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<v Speaker 3>subsequently when we went through that that the jury and

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02:20:04.719 --> 02:20:11.239
<v Speaker 3>both trials never saw that information. We literally opened a

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02:20:11.319 --> 02:20:15.840
<v Speaker 3>vault of incredible information. So that information is relevant to

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02:20:16.079 --> 02:20:21.280
<v Speaker 3>a reinvestigation. And there are members of Congress, surprisingly on

2127
02:20:21.319 --> 02:20:22.719
<v Speaker 3>both sides of the isle, that want to take a

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02:20:22.719 --> 02:20:26.360
<v Speaker 3>look at this and say, hey, let's start over. And

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<v Speaker 3>we're very cautiously optimistic. We understand that there may be

2130
02:20:31.239 --> 02:20:35.120
<v Speaker 3>some folks that may want to underhanded approach, but the

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02:20:35.159 --> 02:20:38.280
<v Speaker 3>people that we talked to said, no, we really want

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<v Speaker 3>to do a good job on this. And that's in

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<v Speaker 3>line with Taulsa Gabbard with RFK, with Cash Fattel, and

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02:20:44.239 --> 02:20:48.479
<v Speaker 3>they're willing to admit, hey, there is information on the

2135
02:20:48.559 --> 02:20:52.399
<v Speaker 3>Ark case, the JFK, Martin Luther King, so this is

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02:20:52.840 --> 02:20:55.799
<v Speaker 3>basically in lockstep with that. And I've got a very

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02:20:55.799 --> 02:21:00.639
<v Speaker 3>important meeting tomorrow morning actually with some key researchers in

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02:21:00.680 --> 02:21:02.440
<v Speaker 3>the case as well as a member of Congress that

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<v Speaker 3>are very serious about looking at this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, you know, I hope that it will happen.

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02:21:07.239 --> 02:21:09.879
<v Speaker 2>And when I look at it because of the role

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02:21:09.959 --> 02:21:12.200
<v Speaker 2>of Merrick Garland, because it's kind of like his first

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02:21:12.200 --> 02:21:16.760
<v Speaker 2>starring role, I guess, you know, and also the connection

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<v Speaker 2>with the Clintons and things like that, I look at

2145
02:21:20.159 --> 02:21:22.760
<v Speaker 2>it because of that political angle. I've got some hope

2146
02:21:22.760 --> 02:21:25.719
<v Speaker 2>that this might happen. We might have an investigation because

2147
02:21:25.760 --> 02:21:27.760
<v Speaker 2>this would this would help these people. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>we look at some of the stuff, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Epstein files, I'm kind of suspicious about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that with Trump's connections with it, that they would ever

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02:21:37.399 --> 02:21:40.559
<v Speaker 2>release anything about that, right And you know, even when

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02:21:40.600 --> 02:21:44.239
<v Speaker 2>you go back to the JFK files, if anybody ever

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02:21:44.319 --> 02:21:48.799
<v Speaker 2>put anything in there that was going to be incriminating,

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02:21:48.840 --> 02:21:50.719
<v Speaker 2>they would have gotten rid of that long time ago.

2155
02:21:50.920 --> 02:21:54.399
<v Speaker 2>So I've been really skeptical and dubious about this. But

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02:21:54.440 --> 02:21:58.760
<v Speaker 2>this because of the connections of Merrick Garland, who has

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02:21:58.799 --> 02:22:01.840
<v Speaker 2>got to be severely aided by Donald Trump and also

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02:22:01.920 --> 02:22:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Hillary talk a little bit about Hillary and all the

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02:22:04.040 --> 02:22:06.000
<v Speaker 2>documents that were there were the Clinton's there at that

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<v Speaker 2>building in Oklahoma City.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what we found out we actually had a source

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02:22:11.399 --> 02:22:13.840
<v Speaker 3>with in Little Rock, Arkansas. This is a gentleman that

2163
02:22:13.920 --> 02:22:17.520
<v Speaker 3>served a dual role with the Secret Service and the ATF.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said that there were documents in the building

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<v Speaker 3>that we're going to be brought forward to indict both

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<v Speaker 3>Bill and Hillary on corruption and underliner charges through the

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02:22:28.319 --> 02:22:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Whitewater Caves. Now, as a film crew, we weren't able

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<v Speaker 3>to actually see any of those documents, but this trusted

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<v Speaker 3>source said, yes, the documents were in the building. And

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<v Speaker 3>here's it's very you know, you don't have to get

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02:22:43.280 --> 02:22:46.200
<v Speaker 3>too complicated to really go through the threat of history here.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, why would they be stored in the

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<v Speaker 3>mirror building in downtown Oklahoma City? Says, because there was

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<v Speaker 3>an arcane rule in Congress if you're going to indict

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<v Speaker 3>as sitting president, it cannot be held in the federal

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<v Speaker 3>courthouse in the home state. And by geographic d fault,

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma City was the closest federal courthouse to the one

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<v Speaker 3>in Little Rock. New Orleans was too far away. Saint

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02:23:06.719 --> 02:23:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Louis Dallas, So they literally brought them to Oklahoma City

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<v Speaker 3>and stored them in the apre Mura Federal Building. And

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02:23:14.879 --> 02:23:16.920
<v Speaker 3>our best guess is that they were on the seventh

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<v Speaker 3>floor in the DEA safe room, which was actually built

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<v Speaker 3>into the building a long after the grand opening. The

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<v Speaker 3>DEA had a custom safe room there, and we know

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<v Speaker 3>of other information that was stored there as well as

2186
02:23:30.040 --> 02:23:32.760
<v Speaker 3>contraband and money for a big drug case. It was

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02:23:32.799 --> 02:23:34.680
<v Speaker 3>due to go to court in May of that year,

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<v Speaker 3>so there was a lot of concentric circles, a lot

2189
02:23:37.559 --> 02:23:41.440
<v Speaker 3>of dual purposes. Basically to have the destruction that building

2190
02:23:41.799 --> 02:23:44.479
<v Speaker 3>and the documents that would have by the end of

2191
02:23:44.559 --> 02:23:47.040
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety five, Bill and Hillary Clinton would have been finished,

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02:23:47.040 --> 02:23:49.639
<v Speaker 3>they probably would have been in prison. So the stakes

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<v Speaker 3>were very, very high. And as you know, the Clintons

2194
02:23:53.559 --> 02:23:55.639
<v Speaker 3>are as corrupt as the day is long, and they

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02:23:55.879 --> 02:23:59.040
<v Speaker 3>fight tooth and nailed to stay in power. This would

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<v Speaker 3>have taken them down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was interesting thing. My son showed me a

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<v Speaker 2>screenclip and it looks like it's something that could actually

2199
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't verify if it was real or not, but

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<v Speaker 2>it said something about all the suicides around the Clintons

2201
02:24:12.040 --> 02:24:15.639
<v Speaker 2>and I was asked AI chat program about it, and

2202
02:24:15.680 --> 02:24:17.680
<v Speaker 2>it started with listing several of them that got to

2203
02:24:17.719 --> 02:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Epstey. It goes and it stops, and it goes.

2204
02:24:20.920 --> 02:24:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Error curred. No, I don't know if that was real

2205
02:24:23.520 --> 02:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>or not. That was something photoshopped. But you know, that's

2206
02:24:26.040 --> 02:24:28.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of where we have been with all of this stuff.

2207
02:24:28.879 --> 02:24:32.280
<v Speaker 2>And when you look at the fact even more Southern

2208
02:24:32.360 --> 02:24:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Hillary Merrick Garland, this would align if they could find

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02:24:36.639 --> 02:24:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the truth on him, if there's some kind of a

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02:24:38.120 --> 02:24:41.920
<v Speaker 2>cover up, this would perfectly align with Trump's desire to

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02:24:41.959 --> 02:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>get Vincent. So that could actually work in our favor

2212
02:24:44.799 --> 02:24:47.159
<v Speaker 2>to try to get some truth out of this thing. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things, and you mentioned that even in

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<v Speaker 2>the trailer that I played before the interview, the fact

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02:24:52.520 --> 02:24:56.879
<v Speaker 2>that and I remember this from the New American John

2216
02:24:56.879 --> 02:25:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Birsu Society, they had a former demolitions general and he

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02:25:02.040 --> 02:25:03.879
<v Speaker 2>talked about the fact that you're looking at the blast pattern,

2218
02:25:03.920 --> 02:25:07.319
<v Speaker 2>it was not a single point source, so it was

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02:25:07.319 --> 02:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>not coming from a car. And then the trailer you've

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02:25:10.520 --> 02:25:14.120
<v Speaker 2>got somebody saying, no, I was there. There was two explosions,

2221
02:25:14.319 --> 02:25:15.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, one of them knocked me down. Then there

2222
02:25:15.680 --> 02:25:18.200
<v Speaker 2>was another explosion. So this was in the single point

2223
02:25:18.239 --> 02:25:21.760
<v Speaker 2>source at multiple indications of that, many many things about

2224
02:25:21.799 --> 02:25:25.920
<v Speaker 2>it that were very suspicious, but we'll talk a little

2225
02:25:25.959 --> 02:25:28.079
<v Speaker 2>bit about that that aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually the person you're referring to is probably a

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02:25:32.319 --> 02:25:35.280
<v Speaker 3>General Betton partner, and I actually met with him. This

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02:25:35.399 --> 02:25:38.000
<v Speaker 3>was two weeks before I met with mcveigh's Defense Council.

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02:25:38.440 --> 02:25:41.799
<v Speaker 3>I was at General Partment's home in Alexander, Virginia. We

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02:25:41.920 --> 02:25:44.440
<v Speaker 3>had just finished having a steak dinner at Fort Belvoir.

2231
02:25:45.399 --> 02:25:47.799
<v Speaker 3>He was at the Officers Club. Drove back to his

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02:25:47.840 --> 02:25:50.239
<v Speaker 3>house and we sat up to almost three o'clock in

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02:25:50.239 --> 02:25:53.440
<v Speaker 3>the morning, and I was just looking at the documents.

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<v Speaker 3>I have three pages of legal document or pad pages,

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02:25:58.280 --> 02:26:00.840
<v Speaker 3>both sides that he scribbled out, the formulas and everything,

2236
02:26:00.879 --> 02:26:03.280
<v Speaker 3>and he explained to me. He says, look, these were

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02:26:03.559 --> 02:26:06.879
<v Speaker 3>the reisands and the damage to three made support columns,

2238
02:26:06.920 --> 02:26:09.319
<v Speaker 3>and we're able to find out exactly which ones through

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02:26:09.360 --> 02:26:11.879
<v Speaker 3>the blueprints that were provided to us by a source

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02:26:11.920 --> 02:26:15.040
<v Speaker 3>of the GSA office and for worth. And he said

2241
02:26:15.040 --> 02:26:18.479
<v Speaker 3>that if you had info and a fifty two foot

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02:26:18.479 --> 02:26:22.600
<v Speaker 3>trailer and Christine lab conditions obviously which didn't exists that day.

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02:26:22.760 --> 02:26:24.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, it was forty two mile an hour headwinds,

2244
02:26:24.840 --> 02:26:28.200
<v Speaker 3>it was about forty seven degrees and the admidit he

2245
02:26:28.280 --> 02:26:30.440
<v Speaker 3>was pretty high. He said, even if you had perfect

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02:26:30.479 --> 02:26:32.600
<v Speaker 3>lab conditions, it still wouldn't have done the damage it

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02:26:32.680 --> 02:26:35.600
<v Speaker 3>did to that building, which completely refuted the info narrative.

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02:26:36.239 --> 02:26:38.760
<v Speaker 3>So that's just cock and bowl. That's like ACME a

2249
02:26:38.799 --> 02:26:43.760
<v Speaker 3>bombing a Roadrunner cartoon. It's ridiculous. So but what he

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02:26:43.799 --> 02:26:47.159
<v Speaker 3>said was that, yes, there were actually twenty three devices

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<v Speaker 3>in the building, and we coroborated this from the Oklahoma

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02:26:49.959 --> 02:26:52.639
<v Speaker 3>County bomb Squad. A medic that came forward and helped

2253
02:26:52.639 --> 02:26:54.879
<v Speaker 3>the south. It was on the squad that morning and

2254
02:26:55.440 --> 02:26:58.479
<v Speaker 3>reported to the scene within about ten minutes after the blast.

2255
02:26:59.120 --> 02:27:01.840
<v Speaker 3>They know what to look for. There was odor of

2256
02:27:02.120 --> 02:27:05.639
<v Speaker 3>sea four and cordite in the air, which he remembered

2257
02:27:05.639 --> 02:27:09.799
<v Speaker 3>as this source remembered from Vietnam when you served there

2258
02:27:10.159 --> 02:27:10.959
<v Speaker 3>was unbelievable.

2259
02:27:11.479 --> 02:27:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't forget that. You don't forget that. I

2260
02:27:13.559 --> 02:27:16.719
<v Speaker 2>mean this smell sense, the smell is really hardwired into

2261
02:27:16.719 --> 02:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>your memory. And I imagine that last time you smell

2262
02:27:20.079 --> 02:27:22.200
<v Speaker 2>that stuff, you were in Vietnam under fire or something

2263
02:27:22.680 --> 02:27:25.239
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be immediate connection to you. Right.

2264
02:27:25.600 --> 02:27:28.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the key. Even on the on the very

2265
02:27:28.200 --> 02:27:31.520
<v Speaker 3>first helicopter footage that you saw the bomb the bombing

2266
02:27:31.559 --> 02:27:33.959
<v Speaker 3>and the third of the building was launched a good

2267
02:27:33.959 --> 02:27:35.719
<v Speaker 3>block and a half to the north of where it stood.

2268
02:27:36.120 --> 02:27:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Looked like an alien craft just sucked it and displaced

2269
02:27:38.520 --> 02:27:41.079
<v Speaker 3>it everywhere. But the key is David. When you look

2270
02:27:41.120 --> 02:27:43.399
<v Speaker 3>at that footage that was shot within about twenty minutes

2271
02:27:43.440 --> 02:27:45.920
<v Speaker 3>after the bombing, there was no fires. There was no

2272
02:27:46.000 --> 02:27:51.040
<v Speaker 3>flames in the building. That is again refutes the majority

2273
02:27:51.079 --> 02:27:54.000
<v Speaker 3>of the damage being done by ante. Because we have

2274
02:27:54.040 --> 02:27:56.440
<v Speaker 3>a case, we we went and looked. We had to

2275
02:27:56.479 --> 02:27:59.319
<v Speaker 3>go retro to look at other cases that anfl was used.

2276
02:28:00.239 --> 02:28:04.399
<v Speaker 3>Of nineteen seventy the Army Math Research Building on the

2277
02:28:04.399 --> 02:28:07.879
<v Speaker 3>campus of University of Wisconsin, Madison, there was ANPHO use

2278
02:28:07.959 --> 02:28:10.120
<v Speaker 3>a much smaller quantity than was a legend in the

2279
02:28:10.159 --> 02:28:12.280
<v Speaker 3>truck and there were flames coming out of the building.

2280
02:28:12.280 --> 02:28:16.840
<v Speaker 3>It was on fire. I interviewed the police chief at

2281
02:28:16.840 --> 02:28:20.600
<v Speaker 3>the time that had the archives from that case, and

2282
02:28:20.639 --> 02:28:24.479
<v Speaker 3>he said, yeah, they had not only the Madison Police Department,

2283
02:28:24.559 --> 02:28:28.280
<v Speaker 3>but the UW Fire Department and the city and the

2284
02:28:28.280 --> 02:28:32.079
<v Speaker 3>County respond and they had to bring in here's another key, David,

2285
02:28:32.280 --> 02:28:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Twenty two people from that case had to be taken

2286
02:28:34.280 --> 02:28:37.040
<v Speaker 3>to the hospital because they were buckling over vomiting from

2287
02:28:37.079 --> 02:28:40.959
<v Speaker 3>the ANTO. The fumes that never happened in Oklahoma City.

2288
02:28:41.520 --> 02:28:44.479
<v Speaker 3>Why because Terry Ike, who we featured in the film

2289
02:28:44.799 --> 02:28:47.719
<v Speaker 3>went in literally within about twelve minutes after the blast,

2290
02:28:47.799 --> 02:28:50.559
<v Speaker 3>was pulling people out. He never got violently sick. So

2291
02:28:50.680 --> 02:28:54.159
<v Speaker 3>the whole narrative of ANTO is completely wiped out once

2292
02:28:54.200 --> 02:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>you look at it in the prior cases and what

2293
02:28:57.200 --> 02:29:01.239
<v Speaker 3>happened just medical treatment of the people rushing in, none

2294
02:29:01.280 --> 02:29:03.600
<v Speaker 3>of the search and rescue, none of the first responders,

2295
02:29:04.280 --> 02:29:07.600
<v Speaker 3>none of the victims that survived, and of course Terry Yiki,

2296
02:29:07.719 --> 02:29:11.399
<v Speaker 3>none of them started vomiting from anfo fumes, So that

2297
02:29:11.440 --> 02:29:14.639
<v Speaker 3>means that it was dry ordinance. It was used the

2298
02:29:14.719 --> 02:29:19.159
<v Speaker 3>cord D and explosives that were set on the columns

2299
02:29:19.440 --> 02:29:22.719
<v Speaker 3>between floors two and three, between the drop ceiling and

2300
02:29:22.760 --> 02:29:25.639
<v Speaker 3>the next concrete slab there was about three feet. They

2301
02:29:25.639 --> 02:29:29.159
<v Speaker 3>were set hidden above the drop ceiling and they were

2302
02:29:29.200 --> 02:29:31.920
<v Speaker 3>electronic mercury switches that we used to set those off.

2303
02:29:32.200 --> 02:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Three of them had gone off. Twenty of them were

2304
02:29:34.040 --> 02:29:36.799
<v Speaker 3>rendered inert and they were set to go off within

2305
02:29:36.840 --> 02:29:40.559
<v Speaker 3>ten minutes of the initial blast to kill the first responders,

2306
02:29:41.120 --> 02:29:43.959
<v Speaker 3>search and rescue and people coming in. But luckily that

2307
02:29:44.120 --> 02:29:47.159
<v Speaker 3>second phase of the bombing the ordinance ever went off,

2308
02:29:47.360 --> 02:29:49.559
<v Speaker 3>we would have had a war devastation. It would have

2309
02:29:49.559 --> 02:29:50.239
<v Speaker 3>been horrendous.

2310
02:29:50.559 --> 02:29:52.479
<v Speaker 2>And so that's how you know so much detail amount

2311
02:29:52.520 --> 02:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>these preplaced explosives is because they did detonate.

2312
02:29:56.680 --> 02:29:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, correct, and that bomb squad found them.

2313
02:29:59.680 --> 02:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow, that's amazing. And so you know, when we

2314
02:30:02.959 --> 02:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>look at this, if people had paid attention to your documentary,

2315
02:30:09.040 --> 02:30:12.120
<v Speaker 2>if they'd paid attention to what was going on, perhaps

2316
02:30:12.760 --> 02:30:15.559
<v Speaker 2>we would not have had a follow up where we

2317
02:30:15.680 --> 02:30:18.799
<v Speaker 2>got three buildings collapsed in the footprint with two planes

2318
02:30:19.319 --> 02:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>only two of them being hit by a plane and

2319
02:30:21.360 --> 02:30:23.559
<v Speaker 2>that type of thing. If people were aware, wait a minute,

2320
02:30:23.600 --> 02:30:26.879
<v Speaker 2>they have blown up buildings in the past and given

2321
02:30:26.959 --> 02:30:30.840
<v Speaker 2>us a completely different narrative about how that happened, perhaps

2322
02:30:30.879 --> 02:30:33.760
<v Speaker 2>that would wake up people as well. Let's talk a

2323
02:30:33.799 --> 02:30:38.120
<v Speaker 2>little bit about because Timothy McVeigh was the biggest question

2324
02:30:38.200 --> 02:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>mark that I had. You know, why would he assume

2325
02:30:42.360 --> 02:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>this role and push on this to essentially try to

2326
02:30:47.079 --> 02:30:49.079
<v Speaker 2>make himself a hero. You know what was going on

2327
02:30:49.159 --> 02:30:50.239
<v Speaker 2>with that? What was his role?

2328
02:30:50.319 --> 02:30:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, would we find out in those records that he

2329
02:30:53.000 --> 02:30:55.120
<v Speaker 3>even told his sister this that he was actually a

2330
02:30:55.120 --> 02:30:58.319
<v Speaker 3>professional assassin and a gun runner for the CIA In

2331
02:30:58.399 --> 02:31:01.079
<v Speaker 3>the months leading up to the bombing. We know definitively

2332
02:31:01.120 --> 02:31:03.680
<v Speaker 3>from September of ninety four through the morning of the bombing,

2333
02:31:04.079 --> 02:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>he was working with at least seven guys in Oklahoma City.

2334
02:31:08.040 --> 02:31:10.120
<v Speaker 3>We know the motel where they stayed at. We saw

2335
02:31:10.120 --> 02:31:13.280
<v Speaker 3>the rooming list from the owner of the hotel. But

2336
02:31:13.319 --> 02:31:16.120
<v Speaker 3>the point is that the bombing was actually and a

2337
02:31:16.159 --> 02:31:19.520
<v Speaker 3>lot of people don't know this may was the understanding

2338
02:31:19.559 --> 02:31:21.520
<v Speaker 3>that was going to happen at nine o'clock the night before,

2339
02:31:21.600 --> 02:31:25.479
<v Speaker 3>twelve hours earlier, with no casualties. There was only one

2340
02:31:25.639 --> 02:31:29.040
<v Speaker 3>security guard that actually his security b was four blocks

2341
02:31:29.239 --> 02:31:33.639
<v Speaker 3>between the Federal Courthouse, the Federal Building, the Mirror Building,

2342
02:31:33.680 --> 02:31:36.959
<v Speaker 3>and then the apartment complex and another building. And they

2343
02:31:37.079 --> 02:31:39.239
<v Speaker 3>timed it. They literally cased this out for a week

2344
02:31:39.280 --> 02:31:42.360
<v Speaker 3>before to figure out what he was going to be

2345
02:31:42.399 --> 02:31:44.159
<v Speaker 3>in the building and when he was not, and they

2346
02:31:44.200 --> 02:31:45.719
<v Speaker 3>wanted to blow it up when he wasn't there. They

2347
02:31:45.760 --> 02:31:49.719
<v Speaker 3>don't want anybody count lo and behold. We have Louis Free,

2348
02:31:49.719 --> 02:31:52.399
<v Speaker 3>the director of the FBI. His number two in command,

2349
02:31:52.440 --> 02:31:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Larry Potts, was mcvay's handler. Now let that soak in

2350
02:31:56.639 --> 02:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>for about five years. Yeah, McVay had a handler from

2351
02:31:59.879 --> 02:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>the FBI that reported directly to lwire Free, who was

2352
02:32:03.479 --> 02:32:06.760
<v Speaker 3>ahead of the FBI. We had Robert Mueller helped cover

2353
02:32:06.840 --> 02:32:10.360
<v Speaker 3>up the case, worked in tandem gloven hand with Merrick Carling.

2354
02:32:10.520 --> 02:32:13.520
<v Speaker 3>So these guys were their ugly heads. Later on Robert

2355
02:32:13.559 --> 02:32:16.639
<v Speaker 3>Miller doing an independent investigation of the Russia honks and

2356
02:32:16.920 --> 02:32:17.879
<v Speaker 3>when I found that out of.

2357
02:32:17.840 --> 02:32:21.600
<v Speaker 2>That and also involved with well, yeah, yes, for the

2358
02:32:21.680 --> 02:32:24.639
<v Speaker 2>nine eleven stuff, it's all all the usual suspects, isn't it.

2359
02:32:25.000 --> 02:32:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, granted they get this.

2360
02:32:27.840 --> 02:32:27.959
<v Speaker 2>Now.

2361
02:32:27.959 --> 02:32:31.799
<v Speaker 3>We had the Oklahoma County District Attorney's office a speakerphone

2362
02:32:31.840 --> 02:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>meeting within four days after the bombing. They're literally giving

2363
02:32:35.319 --> 02:32:38.479
<v Speaker 3>the local authorities in the DA's office marching orders on

2364
02:32:38.520 --> 02:32:40.760
<v Speaker 3>how the Oklahoma City case is going to be investigated.

2365
02:32:40.920 --> 02:32:43.799
<v Speaker 3>Who they were going after, selective prosecution, who they were

2366
02:32:43.799 --> 02:32:46.799
<v Speaker 3>going to let go because there were US government assets

2367
02:32:46.840 --> 02:32:49.200
<v Speaker 3>that were helping with that. It wasn't supposed to go

2368
02:32:49.239 --> 02:32:52.280
<v Speaker 3>live David, but Larry Pott says, no, we want a

2369
02:32:52.280 --> 02:32:55.639
<v Speaker 3>body count, and McVeigh said, oh, hell no, I'm a

2370
02:32:55.639 --> 02:32:58.520
<v Speaker 3>professional assassin and a drug smuggler. I'm not killing children.

2371
02:32:58.760 --> 02:33:00.479
<v Speaker 3>Well he was. He had him over the barrel and

2372
02:33:00.559 --> 02:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>several other charges, and we got that directly from Terry Nichols,

2373
02:33:04.040 --> 02:33:06.559
<v Speaker 3>who got it from McVeigh. I don't know why McVeigh

2374
02:33:06.559 --> 02:33:10.079
<v Speaker 3>would make that up. He's a professional soldier, he's a

2375
02:33:10.079 --> 02:33:13.040
<v Speaker 3>professional assassin. You don't go after innocence like that. But

2376
02:33:13.120 --> 02:33:14.959
<v Speaker 3>he was ordered by Larry Potts to make sure there

2377
02:33:15.040 --> 02:33:17.200
<v Speaker 3>was a body count, hence what unfolded on the morning

2378
02:33:17.239 --> 02:33:21.760
<v Speaker 3>of April nineteen. So that's in a nutshell there, and

2379
02:33:21.959 --> 02:33:24.200
<v Speaker 3>this information is going to come out. Hopefully we have

2380
02:33:24.239 --> 02:33:27.520
<v Speaker 3>the right people with the fortitude and the mental acuity

2381
02:33:27.559 --> 02:33:30.159
<v Speaker 3>and the moral fortitude to say, hey, we need to

2382
02:33:30.159 --> 02:33:33.120
<v Speaker 3>tell the people of Oklahoma, of the United States of

2383
02:33:33.159 --> 02:33:35.000
<v Speaker 3>the world what really happened that morning. Why the one

2384
02:33:35.079 --> 02:33:37.520
<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty eight people, including three on board Shouldern

2385
02:33:37.799 --> 02:33:41.120
<v Speaker 3>were brutally murdered that morning. It's inexcusable.

2386
02:33:41.719 --> 02:33:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Now on the thirtieth anniversary. One of the reasons this

2387
02:33:44.399 --> 02:33:47.719
<v Speaker 2>came up to me, I think was because we talked

2388
02:33:47.719 --> 02:33:53.600
<v Speaker 2>about Nichols lawyer trinerdu and of course he's got a

2389
02:33:53.600 --> 02:33:57.159
<v Speaker 2>website set up to honor his brother that he believes

2390
02:33:57.319 --> 02:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>was involved and murdered and all of that. Jessetrindy dot

2391
02:34:00.920 --> 02:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>com and he was talking about some new evidence as well.

2392
02:34:04.479 --> 02:34:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Are you connected in any way with him in this?

2393
02:34:07.719 --> 02:34:10.879
<v Speaker 3>I haven't, I haven't. I've tried to reach out to Jesse.

2394
02:34:11.120 --> 02:34:13.319
<v Speaker 3>We've lost touch over the years, but we did keep

2395
02:34:13.360 --> 02:34:18.079
<v Speaker 3>a touch for about almost three years consistently, and there

2396
02:34:18.120 --> 02:34:21.120
<v Speaker 3>was an in camera interview that we conducted from Oklahoma

2397
02:34:21.159 --> 02:34:25.120
<v Speaker 3>City through a video service. Oddly enough, my ex roommate

2398
02:34:25.200 --> 02:34:28.479
<v Speaker 3>up there applied for a job the month before the

2399
02:34:28.520 --> 02:34:31.719
<v Speaker 3>bombing and he was eyewitness and ear witness to all

2400
02:34:31.760 --> 02:34:34.239
<v Speaker 3>of the monitors and cameras. That working just fine. So

2401
02:34:34.280 --> 02:34:38.280
<v Speaker 3>for the and the federal government in Jesse's case, said hey,

2402
02:34:38.280 --> 02:34:40.360
<v Speaker 3>they didn't exist. Well, we have a key witness that

2403
02:34:40.399 --> 02:34:42.000
<v Speaker 3>applied for a job that took the tour of the

2404
02:34:42.040 --> 02:34:44.959
<v Speaker 3>building a month before the bombing. That was it was

2405
02:34:45.280 --> 02:34:48.159
<v Speaker 3>believe in the Easter Sunday. We had a long talk

2406
02:34:48.200 --> 02:34:50.760
<v Speaker 3>with Jesse and about a month later, I want to say,

2407
02:34:50.760 --> 02:34:54.799
<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, is when that testimony was and

2408
02:34:54.879 --> 02:35:00.680
<v Speaker 3>the federal prosecutor and ahead of the the team in

2409
02:35:00.680 --> 02:35:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Salt Lake City going against Jesse, was furious that this

2410
02:35:03.479 --> 02:35:07.280
<v Speaker 3>witness came up. So they tried to basically impune his

2411
02:35:07.719 --> 02:35:11.319
<v Speaker 3>reputation and his expertise on cameras. That was very easy

2412
02:35:11.360 --> 02:35:13.959
<v Speaker 3>way of backsliding out of it all. But it was irrefutable.

2413
02:35:14.959 --> 02:35:17.600
<v Speaker 3>So that was. Yeah, we worked with Jesse on that.

2414
02:35:17.959 --> 02:35:20.719
<v Speaker 3>We've showed other intel and I think as we make

2415
02:35:20.760 --> 02:35:22.559
<v Speaker 3>progress on there, we definitely want to reach out to

2416
02:35:22.639 --> 02:35:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Jesse and have him be part of this.

2417
02:35:24.399 --> 02:35:24.520
<v Speaker 11>Now.

2418
02:35:24.760 --> 02:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Trinity was the lawyer for Terry Nichols, and you know,

2419
02:35:28.559 --> 02:35:30.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of interesting with all the back

2420
02:35:30.159 --> 02:35:32.479
<v Speaker 2>and forth that's going on between sixty Minutes and Trump.

2421
02:35:33.559 --> 02:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, sixty minutes is presented as the impeccable source

2422
02:35:37.360 --> 02:35:38.840
<v Speaker 2>of integrity and all the rest of the stuff. At

2423
02:35:38.879 --> 02:35:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Trendy who came out and said, well, we had an

2424
02:35:41.559 --> 02:35:43.600
<v Speaker 2>interview that was scheduled Terry Nichols. They got a call

2425
02:35:43.639 --> 02:35:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and they shut it down, which is also very interesting.

2426
02:35:48.600 --> 02:35:52.360
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot, doesn't it in terms of the massive scope.

2427
02:35:52.360 --> 02:35:55.079
<v Speaker 2>As you point out, you know, the FBI, the CIA

2428
02:35:55.239 --> 02:35:57.760
<v Speaker 2>was also involved. Now, of course you mentioned that you

2429
02:35:57.760 --> 02:35:59.639
<v Speaker 2>know Louis free and his number two guy was a

2430
02:35:59.680 --> 02:36:04.399
<v Speaker 2>handler for Timothy McVeigh mentioned that he's also had CIA

2431
02:36:04.440 --> 02:36:07.799
<v Speaker 2>connections in it. So we see all of the CIA,

2432
02:36:07.879 --> 02:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the intelligence agencies that are there. And I'm sure that

2433
02:36:11.399 --> 02:36:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you know sixty minutes is just another manifestation or tentacle

2434
02:36:14.959 --> 02:36:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess of the operation Mockingbird stuff. They'll do what

2435
02:36:17.959 --> 02:36:21.520
<v Speaker 2>they're told. They'll do some investigations of maybe corporations or individuals,

2436
02:36:21.520 --> 02:36:22.879
<v Speaker 2>but they'll do what they're told when it comes to

2437
02:36:22.920 --> 02:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the government, I guess right.

2438
02:36:24.239 --> 02:36:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Let me let me clarify what happened with sixty minutes

2439
02:36:26.399 --> 02:36:29.600
<v Speaker 3>if you have a minute, sure, So Ed Bradley rest

2440
02:36:29.680 --> 02:36:33.719
<v Speaker 3>is sol he was actually very good reporter and his

2441
02:36:33.840 --> 02:36:38.000
<v Speaker 3>team sent notice, written notice, and a set of questions

2442
02:36:38.040 --> 02:36:43.079
<v Speaker 3>to Terry Nichols to the Florence, Colorado Superbacks. What the

2443
02:36:45.120 --> 02:36:47.200
<v Speaker 3>staff that received the mail never passed it on to

2444
02:36:47.280 --> 02:36:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Terry Nichols. So literally, Ed Bradley and his teams show

2445
02:36:50.319 --> 02:36:52.280
<v Speaker 3>up at the prison ready to do the interview. Nichols

2446
02:36:52.319 --> 02:36:55.399
<v Speaker 3>has no clue. There was no summons to bring him

2447
02:36:55.440 --> 02:36:58.159
<v Speaker 3>down from the cell block. That's where it went cold, right,

2448
02:36:58.159 --> 02:37:01.040
<v Speaker 3>there and Bradley was not very happy about. They flew

2449
02:37:01.079 --> 02:37:04.000
<v Speaker 3>out there and were ready to go, lights, camera, everything

2450
02:37:04.040 --> 02:37:06.959
<v Speaker 3>ready to go. Nichols had no clue and they did.

2451
02:37:07.200 --> 02:37:09.520
<v Speaker 3>They sent us ahead of time. Now, the way Jesse

2452
02:37:09.600 --> 02:37:11.159
<v Speaker 3>got on there, from the best of my understanding and

2453
02:37:11.239 --> 02:37:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Jess could correct me, is that he was actually the

2454
02:37:14.159 --> 02:37:17.920
<v Speaker 3>legal counsel after the federal trial and the State of

2455
02:37:17.920 --> 02:37:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma versus Terry Lynn Nichols trial, So he was on

2456
02:37:21.760 --> 02:37:24.959
<v Speaker 3>a list of attorneys that were able to visit Terry

2457
02:37:25.799 --> 02:37:30.680
<v Speaker 3>after the debacle with sixty minutes, John Ashcroft pretty much

2458
02:37:30.719 --> 02:37:32.399
<v Speaker 3>put a lid on that. He said, nobody's going to

2459
02:37:32.399 --> 02:37:34.520
<v Speaker 3>be talking to Nichols about this case. Ever, while the

2460
02:37:34.520 --> 02:37:37.559
<v Speaker 3>will of John Ashcroft stepped forward yeah, even yeah, and

2461
02:37:37.600 --> 02:37:40.520
<v Speaker 3>then of course now is the one that succeeded them

2462
02:37:40.680 --> 02:37:43.760
<v Speaker 3>years on. Mark Garland was in lockstep with all of that.

2463
02:37:44.280 --> 02:37:46.040
<v Speaker 3>So that's why there is a need to bring this

2464
02:37:46.120 --> 02:37:50.040
<v Speaker 3>information out. There's not a week that goes by that

2465
02:37:50.079 --> 02:37:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't think about evidence. They either come up through

2466
02:37:52.360 --> 02:37:56.280
<v Speaker 3>an email or friend contacting me. And he said, no,

2467
02:37:56.559 --> 02:37:59.399
<v Speaker 3>there's no way in hell I'm going to my grave

2468
02:38:00.079 --> 02:38:03.040
<v Speaker 3>not at least doing trying to do a decent job

2469
02:38:03.079 --> 02:38:05.639
<v Speaker 3>of getting this information out that. Thank god, we still

2470
02:38:05.680 --> 02:38:07.639
<v Speaker 3>have that core group that helped us with our film,

2471
02:38:08.200 --> 02:38:11.639
<v Speaker 3>the researchers, some of them are still alive, including Jesse,

2472
02:38:11.799 --> 02:38:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Charles Key, Craig Roberts, and I got a tip at

2473
02:38:16.040 --> 02:38:19.280
<v Speaker 3>to your former boss Alex Jones and his staff for

2474
02:38:19.600 --> 02:38:22.559
<v Speaker 3>helping us with that. So we're going to we're going

2475
02:38:22.600 --> 02:38:24.159
<v Speaker 3>to stick at this as long as we can. These

2476
02:38:24.159 --> 02:38:26.680
<v Speaker 3>people never know what happened and why it happened, you know,

2477
02:38:26.719 --> 02:38:27.079
<v Speaker 3>when you're.

2478
02:38:26.959 --> 02:38:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Talking about being a bipartisan thing. You know, again John

2479
02:38:30.239 --> 02:38:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Ashcoff with the Republican administrations shutting this stuff down as well,

2480
02:38:34.600 --> 02:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>because again, you know, I it's my personal opinion that

2481
02:38:38.319 --> 02:38:40.760
<v Speaker 2>the political parties are just kind of up front for

2482
02:38:40.799 --> 02:38:42.479
<v Speaker 2>the real government, which is going to be the people

2483
02:38:42.520 --> 02:38:45.840
<v Speaker 2>like the FBI, the CIA, and these other usual suspects

2484
02:38:45.920 --> 02:38:47.760
<v Speaker 2>that are there. So of course it's going to be

2485
02:38:47.799 --> 02:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>a bipartisan issue there. And but you know, getting back

2486
02:38:52.840 --> 02:38:55.319
<v Speaker 2>to McVeigh, you know, one of the things about it, Okay,

2487
02:38:55.360 --> 02:38:58.799
<v Speaker 2>so he's there and he's was going to set this

2488
02:38:58.840 --> 02:39:02.479
<v Speaker 2>thing up, as you know, blow this building when there

2489
02:39:02.479 --> 02:39:04.840
<v Speaker 2>weren't people there, they change it. They've kind of got

2490
02:39:04.879 --> 02:39:08.959
<v Speaker 2>him over a barrel. Why did he try to portray

2491
02:39:09.079 --> 02:39:11.079
<v Speaker 2>the defiant hero and all this? What do you think

2492
02:39:11.200 --> 02:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>was up about that?

2493
02:39:13.520 --> 02:39:15.799
<v Speaker 3>You know what, David, And that's a very good question

2494
02:39:15.879 --> 02:39:19.479
<v Speaker 3>because we know from key witnesses. Let me this is

2495
02:39:19.479 --> 02:39:24.000
<v Speaker 3>is Duvin glove in hand with what you just asked?

2496
02:39:24.000 --> 02:39:26.399
<v Speaker 3>We actually know there were two teams working on this.

2497
02:39:26.520 --> 02:39:29.719
<v Speaker 3>There was the McVeigh that was shot by Charlie Hanger

2498
02:39:30.680 --> 02:39:32.680
<v Speaker 3>within I believe an hour and ten minutes after the

2499
02:39:32.680 --> 02:39:35.000
<v Speaker 3>bombing are less than that. Then there's a McVeigh that

2500
02:39:35.079 --> 02:39:38.280
<v Speaker 3>was actually downtown hanging out right after the bombing, look alike.

2501
02:39:38.760 --> 02:39:41.079
<v Speaker 3>So we don't know the McVeigh that was interviewed by

2502
02:39:41.120 --> 02:39:45.799
<v Speaker 3>sixty minutes or was, you know, had his whole narrative.

2503
02:39:45.840 --> 02:39:47.799
<v Speaker 3>We don't know if that's the one that actually committed

2504
02:39:47.799 --> 02:39:51.360
<v Speaker 3>the case or committed the crime. So that's that's a

2505
02:39:51.360 --> 02:39:54.000
<v Speaker 3>whole level of confusion right there that we're still trying

2506
02:39:54.000 --> 02:39:57.040
<v Speaker 3>to sort through. And how do we know? Because Jermaine Johnson,

2507
02:39:57.079 --> 02:40:01.559
<v Speaker 3>who was a survivor of the bombing, interestingly enough, backed

2508
02:40:01.600 --> 02:40:03.600
<v Speaker 3>out of an interview with our film crew two hours

2509
02:40:03.600 --> 02:40:05.360
<v Speaker 3>before we were going to show up at her front door.

2510
02:40:05.840 --> 02:40:07.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who gave her the call or put

2511
02:40:07.280 --> 02:40:10.799
<v Speaker 3>the pressure on. But if you could picture this, David,

2512
02:40:11.600 --> 02:40:14.840
<v Speaker 3>the bombing happens Remaine Johnson. Her here is all over

2513
02:40:14.879 --> 02:40:17.680
<v Speaker 3>the place. There's are concrete, dust and everything. She literally

2514
02:40:18.200 --> 02:40:20.159
<v Speaker 3>came within an inch of her life. Several of her

2515
02:40:20.200 --> 02:40:23.319
<v Speaker 3>friends were killed in the bombing. Walked six blocks southwest

2516
02:40:23.319 --> 02:40:26.840
<v Speaker 3>of the southeast of the crime scene. McVay is leaning

2517
02:40:26.920 --> 02:40:30.399
<v Speaker 3>against the hood of his yellow Mercury Marquee with another guy.

2518
02:40:30.680 --> 02:40:33.559
<v Speaker 3>They're both looking toward the bomb site Jeremy and Johnson

2519
02:40:33.600 --> 02:40:35.959
<v Speaker 3>has no idea obviously who he is. Nobody knew until

2520
02:40:35.959 --> 02:40:38.239
<v Speaker 3>the next day when the space is all over the

2521
02:40:38.520 --> 02:40:42.639
<v Speaker 3>TV and this individual looks just like McVay. Asked her says,

2522
02:40:43.079 --> 02:40:45.079
<v Speaker 3>were there any people killed, and she said, yeah, several

2523
02:40:45.159 --> 02:40:47.680
<v Speaker 3>of my friends were. She's still in shock figuring out

2524
02:40:47.719 --> 02:40:51.879
<v Speaker 3>what the hell just happened. So that's within she said.

2525
02:40:51.920 --> 02:40:55.479
<v Speaker 3>About ten to twelve minutes after the bombing, who's the McVay,

2526
02:40:55.520 --> 02:40:59.799
<v Speaker 3>They stopped by Charlie Hanger and the stay troupe of

2527
02:40:59.799 --> 02:41:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the his day off, who was out of his precinct.

2528
02:41:02.239 --> 02:41:04.920
<v Speaker 3>He was given orders to drive up that stretch of

2529
02:41:05.000 --> 02:41:07.799
<v Speaker 3>I thirty five just south of Perry, Oklahoma, not far

2530
02:41:07.840 --> 02:41:11.639
<v Speaker 3>from the Kansas border. We had an expert at the

2531
02:41:11.680 --> 02:41:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma DOT Department of Transportations say, there's no way that

2532
02:41:15.079 --> 02:41:18.079
<v Speaker 3>that McVeigh that Jermaine Johnson saw and the one that

2533
02:41:18.159 --> 02:41:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Charlie Hanger could have been the same one that one

2534
02:41:20.760 --> 02:41:24.719
<v Speaker 3>that Jermae Johnson saw, would have had to been traveling

2535
02:41:24.719 --> 02:41:26.680
<v Speaker 3>at he said, in excess of one hundred and thirty

2536
02:41:26.680 --> 02:41:29.479
<v Speaker 3>five miles an hour no stop light. Yeah, I mean

2537
02:41:29.639 --> 02:41:31.840
<v Speaker 3>it's just one point at a point B. It would

2538
02:41:31.840 --> 02:41:34.159
<v Speaker 3>have been impossible. So we knew right there that there

2539
02:41:34.280 --> 02:41:37.479
<v Speaker 3>was two teams working so and Jamie Johnson said, yeah,

2540
02:41:37.559 --> 02:41:39.959
<v Speaker 3>that looked just like the McVeigh on TV the next day.

2541
02:41:40.360 --> 02:41:43.479
<v Speaker 3>That information was never brought out, and that's why Merrick

2542
02:41:43.520 --> 02:41:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Garland was adamant about quashing a lot of the evidence

2543
02:41:46.319 --> 02:41:50.760
<v Speaker 3>that would have really thrown confusion and suspect credibility on

2544
02:41:51.079 --> 02:41:53.520
<v Speaker 3>the prosecution case against mcveigh's, Like, all right, who are

2545
02:41:53.520 --> 02:41:56.559
<v Speaker 3>these two? Who did Charlie Hanger stop? And who was

2546
02:41:56.600 --> 02:41:59.360
<v Speaker 3>the one that Jermaine Johnson was talking to? So but

2547
02:41:59.600 --> 02:42:02.600
<v Speaker 3>your point is that yes, he was working for the CIA.

2548
02:42:03.360 --> 02:42:05.399
<v Speaker 3>Mary Carlin did not want that to come out and

2549
02:42:05.440 --> 02:42:08.120
<v Speaker 3>that was part of the records that we saw. We

2550
02:42:08.159 --> 02:42:10.959
<v Speaker 3>saw his pay grade, how his bills were getting paid,

2551
02:42:11.479 --> 02:42:15.079
<v Speaker 3>the fact that he had allergy at his access for

2552
02:42:15.120 --> 02:42:17.120
<v Speaker 3>almost two and a half years before the bombing. He

2553
02:42:17.159 --> 02:42:18.639
<v Speaker 3>would go out and do what he needed to do,

2554
02:42:19.120 --> 02:42:22.879
<v Speaker 3>come home, take his dry cleaning, make dinner, get up

2555
02:42:22.879 --> 02:42:24.559
<v Speaker 3>the next morning, go do where else he had to do.

2556
02:42:24.719 --> 02:42:28.159
<v Speaker 3>It was unbelievable. And what he was getting paid was

2557
02:42:28.239 --> 02:42:30.479
<v Speaker 3>absolutely insane. Most of it was cash.

2558
02:42:30.520 --> 02:42:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Wow. So there's a possibility in your mind that there

2559
02:42:34.719 --> 02:42:37.799
<v Speaker 2>was one public McVeigh who was making all these radical

2560
02:42:37.840 --> 02:42:39.959
<v Speaker 2>statements about him, Victis and all the rest of this stuff.

2561
02:42:40.000 --> 02:42:43.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, my head is buddy, but I'm bowed. And

2562
02:42:43.479 --> 02:42:46.000
<v Speaker 2>then there was another one that they jailed and executed.

2563
02:42:46.120 --> 02:42:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Is that is that what you're saying?

2564
02:42:47.399 --> 02:42:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Then perhaps, well here again, they did jail this individual.

2565
02:42:50.719 --> 02:42:55.520
<v Speaker 3>We don't know if he even died. And then Roberts Craig, yeah,

2566
02:42:55.879 --> 02:42:58.440
<v Speaker 3>W Craig. Roberts and I have been on joint interviews

2567
02:42:58.440 --> 02:43:00.360
<v Speaker 3>several times. If people ask us you think he's dead,

2568
02:43:00.399 --> 02:43:02.559
<v Speaker 3>and without skipping the beat, we said, no, I don't

2569
02:43:02.559 --> 02:43:05.760
<v Speaker 3>think he's dead and retired c I a asset that

2570
02:43:05.840 --> 02:43:09.719
<v Speaker 3>helped us with investigating some of the financial end of this. Said, look,

2571
02:43:10.680 --> 02:43:13.280
<v Speaker 3>that would really throw rents in the works to recruit

2572
02:43:13.280 --> 02:43:14.920
<v Speaker 3>for the CIA. When you're starting to kill off your

2573
02:43:14.920 --> 02:43:18.879
<v Speaker 3>assets like that, that's completely against the motive operation. Unless

2574
02:43:18.879 --> 02:43:22.239
<v Speaker 3>there was treason or you know they're they're working for enemy,

2575
02:43:22.319 --> 02:43:23.600
<v Speaker 3>then that's all different deal.

2576
02:43:23.879 --> 02:43:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow. So well, now, when Mary Garland wanted to quash information,

2577
02:43:27.600 --> 02:43:30.120
<v Speaker 2>I think was that about the time that you know,

2578
02:43:30.239 --> 02:43:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Happy Heidelberg, who is a part of that addential grand jury,

2579
02:43:33.200 --> 02:43:36.719
<v Speaker 2>and he's asking some questions and stuff like that was it?

2580
02:43:37.360 --> 02:43:39.159
<v Speaker 2>And he got out of the grand jury and he

2581
02:43:39.600 --> 02:43:42.280
<v Speaker 2>convenes the citizens Grand Jury to try to continue to

2582
02:43:42.319 --> 02:43:46.120
<v Speaker 2>investigate it was was that kind of in response to

2583
02:43:46.440 --> 02:43:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Merrick Garland quashing information?

2584
02:43:50.399 --> 02:43:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so what you're referring to is two different things,

2585
02:43:52.879 --> 02:43:55.159
<v Speaker 3>which is good. I'm glad you brought that up. Hopey

2586
02:43:55.319 --> 02:43:57.799
<v Speaker 3>was a member of the grand jury. He was actually

2587
02:43:57.840 --> 02:44:02.920
<v Speaker 3>dismissed by judge. Judge David Russell presided over selecting defense

2588
02:44:02.920 --> 02:44:06.200
<v Speaker 3>counsel and so forth, and Hopey had ten questions for him.

2589
02:44:06.200 --> 02:44:09.079
<v Speaker 3>We want relevant evidence, we want physical evidence, we want experts.

2590
02:44:09.360 --> 02:44:11.840
<v Speaker 3>We're entitled in it's a grand jury. The judge never

2591
02:44:11.920 --> 02:44:15.000
<v Speaker 3>responded to any of those. He summarily dismissed him from

2592
02:44:15.040 --> 02:44:18.159
<v Speaker 3>the jury without cause and threatened to him. Yeah, it

2593
02:44:18.239 --> 02:44:23.520
<v Speaker 3>was unbelievable. So what Charles Key, the state representative after

2594
02:44:23.559 --> 02:44:27.639
<v Speaker 3>that convened a citizens grand jury, threw his power in

2595
02:44:27.760 --> 02:44:31.319
<v Speaker 3>his authority as a Oklahoma state representative at the time.

2596
02:44:31.600 --> 02:44:33.799
<v Speaker 3>So there were two things going on at once. But yes,

2597
02:44:33.840 --> 02:44:36.799
<v Speaker 3>to answer your question, Merrick Garland was also attempted to

2598
02:44:36.879 --> 02:44:40.559
<v Speaker 3>quash that exculpatory evidence to show McVeigh and Nichols. Nichols

2599
02:44:40.639 --> 02:44:43.600
<v Speaker 3>was completely innocent, he was set up, he was framed,

2600
02:44:44.000 --> 02:44:48.319
<v Speaker 3>and even the Inspector General's Office report said, yeah, the

2601
02:44:48.319 --> 02:44:52.760
<v Speaker 3>evidence was basically slanted to incriminate both defendants, not only

2602
02:44:52.840 --> 02:44:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Nichols but McVay. So there was a lot of things

2603
02:44:55.639 --> 02:44:58.200
<v Speaker 3>going on at once, and Merrick Garland was running to

2604
02:44:58.239 --> 02:45:00.520
<v Speaker 3>keep up with himself just to make sure that that

2605
02:45:00.559 --> 02:45:03.120
<v Speaker 3>evidence will never come out. And neither of the juries

2606
02:45:03.159 --> 02:45:06.559
<v Speaker 3>and both federal trials ever saw that evidence, the expelpatory evidence.

2607
02:45:06.680 --> 02:45:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Wow, now did Happy Heidelberg get involved with that citizen's

2608
02:45:10.840 --> 02:45:13.280
<v Speaker 2>grand jury that was convened by the representative.

2609
02:45:13.840 --> 02:45:16.680
<v Speaker 3>No, no, sir, that was separate. Now, but I do

2610
02:45:16.760 --> 02:45:19.200
<v Speaker 3>want to share something with you and restless. Old Happy

2611
02:45:19.280 --> 02:45:22.879
<v Speaker 3>passed away about a year after our film. Seven months

2612
02:45:22.920 --> 02:45:26.440
<v Speaker 3>after the film was released, he passed on. In fact,

2613
02:45:26.479 --> 02:45:28.319
<v Speaker 3>it was an an interview with info Wars that he

2614
02:45:28.360 --> 02:45:32.440
<v Speaker 3>made the announcement that he had the cancer. And I

2615
02:45:32.479 --> 02:45:34.079
<v Speaker 3>was sitting right next to him in our studio in

2616
02:45:34.079 --> 02:45:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma City, and I knew about it what. I picked

2617
02:45:36.719 --> 02:45:38.559
<v Speaker 3>him up from his ranch that morning. We had about

2618
02:45:38.559 --> 02:45:40.920
<v Speaker 3>a forty minute drive to the studio and he told

2619
02:45:40.920 --> 02:45:43.520
<v Speaker 3>me everything and he made the announcement to Alex and

2620
02:45:44.399 --> 02:45:46.239
<v Speaker 3>Alex was shell shocked. It was the hell of an

2621
02:45:46.239 --> 02:45:48.760
<v Speaker 3>interview for almost two hours on info Wars.

2622
02:45:50.120 --> 02:45:52.479
<v Speaker 2>That name, that's a name that always sticks with you.

2623
02:45:52.840 --> 02:45:56.159
<v Speaker 2>That's phenomenal, Happy Heidelberg. Yeah, that's one of the key

2624
02:45:56.200 --> 02:45:58.120
<v Speaker 2>things that it's been a while. Things are a little

2625
02:45:58.159 --> 02:45:59.959
<v Speaker 2>bit foggy for me because it's been a while since

2626
02:46:00.040 --> 02:46:02.799
<v Speaker 2>I've seen your documentary and looked into this, but that

2627
02:46:02.799 --> 02:46:05.360
<v Speaker 2>that name always pops to the frank A very unusual name,

2628
02:46:05.799 --> 02:46:08.079
<v Speaker 2>an usual guy too. Only if only we had more

2629
02:46:08.120 --> 02:46:08.799
<v Speaker 2>people like him.

2630
02:46:09.399 --> 02:46:14.159
<v Speaker 3>What another one more relevant point with Happy. David and

2631
02:46:14.239 --> 02:46:17.040
<v Speaker 3>I moved to Oklahoma City in January of three in

2632
02:46:17.120 --> 02:46:19.319
<v Speaker 3>late February, I drove down to his ranch, first time

2633
02:46:19.360 --> 02:46:21.719
<v Speaker 3>I met him, and we sat at his kitchen table

2634
02:46:21.760 --> 02:46:25.120
<v Speaker 3>and shared a pot of coffee for about three hours,

2635
02:46:25.520 --> 02:46:27.840
<v Speaker 3>and he told me toward the end, he says, look,

2636
02:46:28.799 --> 02:46:31.559
<v Speaker 3>I knew all of the information that it clearly showed

2637
02:46:31.559 --> 02:46:33.680
<v Speaker 3>other people were involved. We wanted that brought to the

2638
02:46:34.000 --> 02:46:37.159
<v Speaker 3>grand jury, and the judge wouldn't allow it. He got

2639
02:46:37.200 --> 02:46:39.959
<v Speaker 3>a visit from an attorney and he later figured out

2640
02:46:40.079 --> 02:46:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Hoppy's a member of MENSA. He's pretty smart. This guy,

2641
02:46:43.680 --> 02:46:47.280
<v Speaker 3>he's nobody's fool. And this particular attorney that showed up

2642
02:46:47.520 --> 02:46:50.719
<v Speaker 3>was very professional. Uh didn't get in his face, but

2643
02:46:50.760 --> 02:46:53.239
<v Speaker 3>he said, we're at the point now, mister Heidelberg, where

2644
02:46:53.440 --> 02:46:55.920
<v Speaker 3>you're going to have to back off and stop asking questions.

2645
02:46:56.440 --> 02:46:58.280
<v Speaker 3>We know where your grandchildren live, we know where your

2646
02:46:58.360 --> 02:47:01.079
<v Speaker 3>daughters and your children work in the banks. He's showing

2647
02:47:01.159 --> 02:47:04.639
<v Speaker 3>him literally Hoppy pictures of where the faces of employment

2648
02:47:04.680 --> 02:47:07.360
<v Speaker 3>are and they said, if you don't back off, this

2649
02:47:07.520 --> 02:47:10.840
<v Speaker 3>is I can't guarantee their safety anymore. It was basically

2650
02:47:10.920 --> 02:47:15.079
<v Speaker 3>a very overt threat to say, back to f off

2651
02:47:15.200 --> 02:47:17.360
<v Speaker 3>or things are going to happen, that that's going to

2652
02:47:17.399 --> 02:47:20.680
<v Speaker 3>be very damaging to your family physically and mentally and financially,

2653
02:47:21.280 --> 02:47:23.559
<v Speaker 3>and he had no choice. So he goes from being

2654
02:47:23.600 --> 02:47:27.559
<v Speaker 3>a multimillion dollar horse breeder out of Blanchard, Oklahoma, forty

2655
02:47:27.600 --> 02:47:31.360
<v Speaker 3>two miles southeast of west of downtown Oklahoma City, to

2656
02:47:31.680 --> 02:47:36.239
<v Speaker 3>driving the school bus and hauling fuel oil. All of

2657
02:47:36.239 --> 02:47:38.520
<v Speaker 3>his clients basically just said, we don't want to talk

2658
02:47:38.559 --> 02:47:41.959
<v Speaker 3>to you anymore. You're crossing the line here. Yeah. He

2659
02:47:42.799 --> 02:47:45.399
<v Speaker 3>luckily his wife had gainful employment. They were able to

2660
02:47:45.680 --> 02:47:48.680
<v Speaker 3>keep the bills paid. But he went from a multimillionaire

2661
02:47:48.760 --> 02:47:52.360
<v Speaker 3>to basically nothing. They stripped his gainful employment right off

2662
02:47:52.399 --> 02:47:54.520
<v Speaker 3>from under him and Treadle's family.

2663
02:47:55.440 --> 02:47:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, it's not unusual, I guess for us to

2664
02:47:58.159 --> 02:48:02.159
<v Speaker 2>see this happening with social media, with other venues as well.

2665
02:48:02.440 --> 02:48:06.520
<v Speaker 2>And of course we recently I played Jenny McCarthy talking

2666
02:48:06.559 --> 02:48:08.399
<v Speaker 2>about the fact that she was threatened just because she

2667
02:48:08.479 --> 02:48:11.559
<v Speaker 2>was talking about the vaccine stuff. You know, they threatened her,

2668
02:48:11.639 --> 02:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>threatened her family, and you know, messed with her career.

2669
02:48:15.559 --> 02:48:20.440
<v Speaker 2>So it is. It is truly amazing the corrupt system

2670
02:48:20.559 --> 02:48:23.959
<v Speaker 2>and the intimidation that is there. But you know, when

2671
02:48:24.000 --> 02:48:26.200
<v Speaker 2>we when we look at this as we go into

2672
02:48:26.200 --> 02:48:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the future. Uh, and it is hopeful that we might

2673
02:48:30.239 --> 02:48:31.440
<v Speaker 2>be able to get something again.

2674
02:48:31.959 --> 02:48:32.159
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

2675
02:48:32.200 --> 02:48:36.559
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of in a new investigation opening this

2676
02:48:36.840 --> 02:48:40.959
<v Speaker 2>up and perhaps getting to some additional information. But I

2677
02:48:41.000 --> 02:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>would I would recommend everybody. I'm going to go back

2678
02:48:43.040 --> 02:48:45.440
<v Speaker 2>and refresh my memory on this as well, because it

2679
02:48:45.520 --> 02:48:51.120
<v Speaker 2>truly is a fascinating story and one that is indicative

2680
02:48:51.200 --> 02:48:53.879
<v Speaker 2>of our times and of our government as well. But

2681
02:48:53.959 --> 02:48:56.879
<v Speaker 2>before we end, Terry Nichols tell us a bit about Terry.

2682
02:48:56.920 --> 02:48:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Now you know Tennethy McVeigh, very very strange character, the

2683
02:48:59.639 --> 02:49:01.959
<v Speaker 2>connects that he had with the CIA, the FBI, the

2684
02:49:01.959 --> 02:49:05.639
<v Speaker 2>rest of this. Terry Nichols was he just kind of

2685
02:49:05.680 --> 02:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>a patsy that was brought in by McVeigh.

2686
02:49:08.399 --> 02:49:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, they served together at Fort Rally in Kansas. They

2687
02:49:11.360 --> 02:49:14.280
<v Speaker 3>did not serve together in Iraq. Terry was stateside, I

2688
02:49:14.280 --> 02:49:17.280
<v Speaker 3>believe when Tim was serving overseas. But yes, he was

2689
02:49:17.280 --> 02:49:20.879
<v Speaker 3>brought in as a patsy. We did find out and

2690
02:49:20.920 --> 02:49:22.920
<v Speaker 3>there were two trials that went on with Terry. It

2691
02:49:23.040 --> 02:49:25.840
<v Speaker 3>was the federal trial. They were indicted under eight counts

2692
02:49:25.879 --> 02:49:28.639
<v Speaker 3>of murder because there was eight federal employees killed that morning.

2693
02:49:29.200 --> 02:49:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Then the State of Oklahoma versus Terry Lynn Nichols. There

2694
02:49:31.719 --> 02:49:34.239
<v Speaker 3>was one hundred and sixty counts of murder because they

2695
02:49:34.280 --> 02:49:37.840
<v Speaker 3>were non federal employees and civilians from the state of Oklahoma,

2696
02:49:39.000 --> 02:49:41.639
<v Speaker 3>and that's that was the state trial. There was no

2697
02:49:41.719 --> 02:49:44.399
<v Speaker 3>state trial from McVeigh because quote unquote, he was killed

2698
02:49:44.479 --> 02:49:48.120
<v Speaker 3>under lethal Injecson. Again, we don't know that was even true.

2699
02:49:48.760 --> 02:49:52.399
<v Speaker 3>But Terry had a very how do we say this

2700
02:49:52.799 --> 02:49:57.079
<v Speaker 3>arrested development personality. He had the mental and the intellectual

2701
02:49:57.120 --> 02:50:00.479
<v Speaker 3>acuity of a eighth grader. So he's very easy, very

2702
02:50:00.520 --> 02:50:03.600
<v Speaker 3>easy to manipulate. Never heard him in the seven days

2703
02:50:03.600 --> 02:50:05.440
<v Speaker 3>that I was at the state trial, off and on,

2704
02:50:05.600 --> 02:50:09.680
<v Speaker 3>driving back and forth from Oklahoma City to McAllister, Oklahoma.

2705
02:50:10.159 --> 02:50:13.319
<v Speaker 3>It was at the Pittsford County courthouse, but I never

2706
02:50:13.360 --> 02:50:15.479
<v Speaker 3>heard him speak. It was his defense counselor that was

2707
02:50:15.479 --> 02:50:19.719
<v Speaker 3>speaking for him and key witnesses. But interesting the thing

2708
02:50:19.760 --> 02:50:23.440
<v Speaker 3>with that trial bringing up Larry Potts, mcvea's handler. So

2709
02:50:23.479 --> 02:50:26.639
<v Speaker 3>if you can imagine the defense counsel for Terry Nichols

2710
02:50:27.040 --> 02:50:31.639
<v Speaker 3>calls Larry Potts as a hostile witness obviously, and the

2711
02:50:31.680 --> 02:50:34.079
<v Speaker 3>federal government this is not even their venue. This is

2712
02:50:34.079 --> 02:50:36.280
<v Speaker 3>a state trial. They have no business being in a

2713
02:50:36.319 --> 02:50:40.040
<v Speaker 3>state court. Stephen Taylor, and I spoke with Judge Taylor

2714
02:50:40.079 --> 02:50:44.680
<v Speaker 3>after the trial several months after, and he said that

2715
02:50:44.719 --> 02:50:46.719
<v Speaker 3>he was furious. It took him three days to cool

2716
02:50:46.760 --> 02:50:51.040
<v Speaker 3>off because John Ashcroft at the time and Louis free

2717
02:50:51.360 --> 02:50:54.920
<v Speaker 3>forbade Larry Potts from showing up in that courtroom. And

2718
02:50:54.959 --> 02:50:57.319
<v Speaker 3>they had no business telling the judge who was going

2719
02:50:57.360 --> 02:51:00.559
<v Speaker 3>to come in. It wasn't their trial, it wasn't their venue.

2720
02:51:01.040 --> 02:51:03.719
<v Speaker 3>And the judge really shot off a very terse letter

2721
02:51:03.799 --> 02:51:07.000
<v Speaker 3>to Ashcroft and the prosecution at the time. He says,

2722
02:51:07.000 --> 02:51:09.440
<v Speaker 3>you have no business coming and telling who my witness

2723
02:51:09.479 --> 02:51:12.319
<v Speaker 3>is coming into our courtroom. They did not want Larry

2724
02:51:12.360 --> 02:51:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Potts to get on the stand and he would have

2725
02:51:14.600 --> 02:51:17.120
<v Speaker 3>had to commit perjury. Then that would have really snowballed

2726
02:51:17.120 --> 02:51:19.280
<v Speaker 3>into a whole different thing. The whole narrative would have

2727
02:51:19.319 --> 02:51:23.760
<v Speaker 3>started unraveling right there. Wow and yeah so and even

2728
02:51:23.799 --> 02:51:25.840
<v Speaker 3>the jury at the state trials saw through. They said, no,

2729
02:51:25.959 --> 02:51:28.879
<v Speaker 3>there's something horribly wrong going on here, and they sent

2730
02:51:29.040 --> 02:51:30.719
<v Speaker 3>some to life without a chance of parole. And that's

2731
02:51:30.719 --> 02:51:34.239
<v Speaker 3>where we're serving in Florence, Colorado right now. He should

2732
02:51:34.239 --> 02:51:36.520
<v Speaker 3>have been out at the most he should have served

2733
02:51:36.520 --> 02:51:39.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe about two years and he would have been out

2734
02:51:39.840 --> 02:51:40.559
<v Speaker 3>of prison by down.

2735
02:51:40.920 --> 02:51:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

2736
02:51:41.399 --> 02:51:43.799
<v Speaker 3>So that's why we want a reinvestigation in this case.

2737
02:51:44.920 --> 02:51:47.959
<v Speaker 3>Way too many loose ends, way too many I answered questions, and.

2738
02:51:47.920 --> 02:51:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Of question when we look at the connections with Merrick

2739
02:51:50.639 --> 02:51:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Garland and Louis Free and all these other Hillary Clinton

2740
02:51:53.079 --> 02:51:55.760
<v Speaker 2>and the Clinton's and the papers that are there. Another

2741
02:51:55.840 --> 02:51:59.760
<v Speaker 2>very important aspect of this was obviously by doing it

2742
02:51:59.840 --> 02:52:04.360
<v Speaker 2>on the anniversary of what happened in Waco. A big

2743
02:52:04.399 --> 02:52:07.239
<v Speaker 2>part of this, you know, the obvious thing was that

2744
02:52:07.280 --> 02:52:10.520
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to shut down the pushback that was building

2745
02:52:10.879 --> 02:52:13.319
<v Speaker 2>against what had happened with Ruby Ridge and with Waco.

2746
02:52:13.520 --> 02:52:16.600
<v Speaker 2>There was a growing militia movement as people were saying,

2747
02:52:16.600 --> 02:52:18.440
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, you know, something is wrong with this government.

2748
02:52:19.120 --> 02:52:21.040
<v Speaker 2>They you know, what are they planning to do down

2749
02:52:21.079 --> 02:52:23.319
<v Speaker 2>the road When you look at what happened with these

2750
02:52:23.319 --> 02:52:26.200
<v Speaker 2>two things, and of course you remember that everybody should

2751
02:52:26.239 --> 02:52:29.719
<v Speaker 2>remember that Ruby Ridge happened under the George H. W.

2752
02:52:29.920 --> 02:52:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Bush regime and the Waco thing happened under the Clinton regime,

2753
02:52:35.559 --> 02:52:37.559
<v Speaker 2>and it was largely the same people. Of course, Janet

2754
02:52:37.559 --> 02:52:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Reno was there at the front, but you know, you

2755
02:52:39.840 --> 02:52:42.959
<v Speaker 2>still had the same FBI people and so forth from

2756
02:52:43.000 --> 02:52:48.040
<v Speaker 2>these two different front organizations, Bush and Clinton, and so

2757
02:52:48.079 --> 02:52:51.159
<v Speaker 2>they were all still there. And so there was a

2758
02:52:51.159 --> 02:52:52.879
<v Speaker 2>lot of people that were pushing back against it and saying,

2759
02:52:52.879 --> 02:52:54.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, what is going on with the federal government

2760
02:52:54.680 --> 02:52:57.319
<v Speaker 2>and this is a way for them to essentially shut

2761
02:52:57.360 --> 02:53:01.159
<v Speaker 2>down the building militia movement and people who are questioning

2762
02:53:01.200 --> 02:53:03.079
<v Speaker 2>all that, could you question all this stuff? Now we're

2763
02:53:03.079 --> 02:53:06.440
<v Speaker 2>going to lump you in with these terrorists who killed

2764
02:53:06.920 --> 02:53:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you know how many people, hundred and some odd people.

2765
02:53:09.760 --> 02:53:13.120
<v Speaker 2>We're going to containt the entire militia movement with that.

2766
02:53:13.520 --> 02:53:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Speak to that a little bit, Okay.

2767
02:53:15.840 --> 02:53:18.959
<v Speaker 3>So Andreia Strasmeier was a key witness. He was actually

2768
02:53:19.040 --> 02:53:23.360
<v Speaker 3>a running mate, running buddy with McVeigh. We know, at

2769
02:53:23.440 --> 02:53:26.280
<v Speaker 3>least four months up to before the bombing, Strasmeyer is

2770
02:53:26.280 --> 02:53:29.280
<v Speaker 3>brought in from Germany oddly enough, and we don't know

2771
02:53:29.319 --> 02:53:32.399
<v Speaker 3>why we're still trying to figure out al Gore asked

2772
02:53:32.440 --> 02:53:34.559
<v Speaker 3>him to come over from Germany. Now, Strasmeyer is an

2773
02:53:34.559 --> 02:53:39.040
<v Speaker 3>interesting character. His dad, gut To Strasmeyer, was the chief

2774
02:53:39.040 --> 02:53:40.719
<v Speaker 3>of staff for Helmut Cole, who was the head of

2775
02:53:40.760 --> 02:53:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Germany at the time. They wanted Strasmeyer, who was a

2776
02:53:43.600 --> 02:53:47.719
<v Speaker 3>wash out from the German basically the German counterpart to

2777
02:53:47.719 --> 02:53:50.799
<v Speaker 3>the US Rangers and Special Forces. They wanted him to

2778
02:53:50.799 --> 02:53:53.639
<v Speaker 3>come to the US and infiltrate these quote unquote Nazi

2779
02:53:53.680 --> 02:53:57.840
<v Speaker 3>movement groups and militia movements. So we know that in fact,

2780
02:53:57.879 --> 02:54:00.559
<v Speaker 3>he was working for the government for four it was

2781
02:54:01.000 --> 02:54:03.840
<v Speaker 3>no gainful employment. All of his credit card, his hotel bills,

2782
02:54:03.879 --> 02:54:08.079
<v Speaker 3>everything was being paid. And we did have two members

2783
02:54:08.079 --> 02:54:11.680
<v Speaker 3>of the Craig Roberts had reached out to the Texas Militia,

2784
02:54:11.799 --> 02:54:14.680
<v Speaker 3>the labrigade they called him. They actually use motorcycles to

2785
02:54:14.959 --> 02:54:19.079
<v Speaker 3>drive around and these motocross bikes. They saw him get this.

2786
02:54:19.239 --> 02:54:22.840
<v Speaker 3>They saw Strasmeyer letting himself in on the loading dock

2787
02:54:22.920 --> 02:54:26.440
<v Speaker 3>of the Federal Courthouse in downtown Fort Worth, Texas, punching

2788
02:54:26.479 --> 02:54:30.399
<v Speaker 3>the keypad and then wee hours in the morning all day. Heck,

2789
02:54:30.440 --> 02:54:32.000
<v Speaker 3>what do you have access to the back door of

2790
02:54:32.040 --> 02:54:34.319
<v Speaker 3>the Federal courthouse and the wee hours in the morning,

2791
02:54:34.360 --> 02:54:37.799
<v Speaker 3>knowing the security code and the Texas Militia basically within

2792
02:54:37.840 --> 02:54:39.559
<v Speaker 3>twenty four hours is get the hell out of town

2793
02:54:39.639 --> 02:54:41.600
<v Speaker 3>or we're not going to guarantee your safety. They're going

2794
02:54:41.600 --> 02:54:43.680
<v Speaker 3>to end up face up in a ditch somewhere, and

2795
02:54:44.319 --> 02:54:46.319
<v Speaker 3>Strasmeyer packed up his stuff and got the hell out.

2796
02:54:46.319 --> 02:54:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Where's he end up? Oklahoma and LM City, which is

2797
02:54:50.000 --> 02:54:53.000
<v Speaker 3>right on the not far from the Arkansas Oklahoma border,

2798
02:54:53.360 --> 02:54:56.520
<v Speaker 3>south of Tulsa, and that's where he's hanging out with

2799
02:54:56.600 --> 02:54:59.719
<v Speaker 3>McVeigh with a lot of these mail contents. We found

2800
02:54:59.719 --> 02:55:02.680
<v Speaker 3>out we're actually with the ATF, the CIA, and the FBI.

2801
02:55:02.840 --> 02:55:06.280
<v Speaker 3>They didn't even know of the interagency. So there was

2802
02:55:06.399 --> 02:55:09.600
<v Speaker 3>basically TRUF Wars, Eagle Wars. They weren't communicating with each other.

2803
02:55:10.120 --> 02:55:13.159
<v Speaker 3>Just a perfect storm of complete catastrophe.

2804
02:55:13.399 --> 02:55:15.840
<v Speaker 2>They got all these different government agencies and they're all

2805
02:55:15.879 --> 02:55:19.760
<v Speaker 2>posing to be, uh, the terrorist or whatever, and yeah,

2806
02:55:19.760 --> 02:55:23.040
<v Speaker 2>they're all federal agencies. That that's how do we know

2807
02:55:23.120 --> 02:55:23.639
<v Speaker 2>that happened.

2808
02:55:23.639 --> 02:55:25.840
<v Speaker 3>There was a pilot that worked for the Oklahoma Department

2809
02:55:25.879 --> 02:55:29.440
<v Speaker 3>of Public Safety, their state patrol. He's taking an FBI

2810
02:55:29.600 --> 02:55:32.879
<v Speaker 3>asset over this l M City and the pilot says, well,

2811
02:55:32.879 --> 02:55:34.840
<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, I just I took somebody from the

2812
02:55:34.879 --> 02:55:37.719
<v Speaker 3>ATF here about two weeks ago. FBI had no idea

2813
02:55:37.760 --> 02:55:40.120
<v Speaker 3>the ATF is here, and the CIA.

2814
02:55:41.520 --> 02:55:43.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's amazing.

2815
02:55:43.520 --> 02:55:46.879
<v Speaker 3>So that's that's the involvement with McVeigh and and Strasmeyer

2816
02:55:46.959 --> 02:55:50.239
<v Speaker 3>and uh so Strasmeer's still as we know, he's still

2817
02:55:50.239 --> 02:55:52.600
<v Speaker 3>living in Berlin. FBI never pursued them.

2818
02:55:52.840 --> 02:55:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it truly is amazing. And I go back and

2819
02:55:55.479 --> 02:55:58.479
<v Speaker 2>I hear these you know, Strasmeyern, and I say these, yeah,

2820
02:55:58.520 --> 02:56:01.239
<v Speaker 2>these names from the pass as to at the ring bells,

2821
02:56:00.879 --> 02:56:03.920
<v Speaker 2>and so great to have you start to put these

2822
02:56:03.920 --> 02:56:06.120
<v Speaker 2>things together and it is time to look at this again.

2823
02:56:06.559 --> 02:56:09.360
<v Speaker 2>It's time to look at it again. Even if there

2824
02:56:09.200 --> 02:56:11.440
<v Speaker 2>weren't wasn't going to be a new investigation, but there

2825
02:56:11.479 --> 02:56:13.920
<v Speaker 2>is going to hopefully be a new investigation. Will there

2826
02:56:14.000 --> 02:56:17.120
<v Speaker 2>be an update to the documentary presumably on.

2827
02:56:17.120 --> 02:56:21.479
<v Speaker 3>This well at this time, no, David, we're going to

2828
02:56:21.479 --> 02:56:25.719
<v Speaker 3>put our financial resources to the investigation. And I want

2829
02:56:25.760 --> 02:56:30.959
<v Speaker 3>to tip my hat to William Jasper, Jesse Trinido, Craig Roberts,

2830
02:56:31.120 --> 02:56:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Charles Key, members of the Oklam the Bombing Investigation Committee

2831
02:56:34.760 --> 02:56:37.639
<v Speaker 3>who have since passed away Happy Heidelberg. All of those

2832
02:56:37.680 --> 02:56:41.000
<v Speaker 3>people helped us. So we had one hundred and fifty volunteers,

2833
02:56:41.360 --> 02:56:43.200
<v Speaker 3>a twenty five core group that helped us put the

2834
02:56:43.200 --> 02:56:47.280
<v Speaker 3>first film out. If in fact we get the financial resources. Yes,

2835
02:56:47.319 --> 02:56:49.200
<v Speaker 3>we would do an update, but now we're really we've

2836
02:56:49.239 --> 02:56:50.760
<v Speaker 3>got to focus, keep our eye on the ball and

2837
02:56:50.959 --> 02:56:53.200
<v Speaker 3>make sure this investigation moves forward smoothly.

2838
02:56:53.559 --> 02:56:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Well good, and if you do that, we might have

2839
02:56:55.719 --> 02:56:58.920
<v Speaker 2>a really interesting update to it. Oh yes, this comes

2840
02:56:58.920 --> 02:57:02.840
<v Speaker 2>out into a genuine investigation and more of this stuff

2841
02:57:02.920 --> 02:57:04.840
<v Speaker 2>is released. Tell us a little bit about a little

2842
02:57:04.840 --> 02:57:07.239
<v Speaker 2>bit more about some of the projects there at freemindfilms

2843
02:57:07.280 --> 02:57:07.840
<v Speaker 2>dot com.

2844
02:57:08.399 --> 02:57:11.959
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, the second film, State of Mindsetology of Control

2845
02:57:12.440 --> 02:57:15.239
<v Speaker 3>is the one that you help this promote that basically

2846
02:57:15.319 --> 02:57:18.239
<v Speaker 3>covers the waterfront from basically from the day you're born

2847
02:57:18.239 --> 02:57:21.799
<v Speaker 3>to the day you die, how you're manipulated through education, nutrition, marketing.

2848
02:57:22.319 --> 02:57:25.440
<v Speaker 3>We go into the deep dives on what happens on

2849
02:57:25.520 --> 02:57:28.280
<v Speaker 3>a daily basis to you and why certain people think

2850
02:57:28.319 --> 02:57:31.440
<v Speaker 3>the way they do. It's a very academic approach. We

2851
02:57:32.200 --> 02:57:36.479
<v Speaker 3>interview peer reviewed authors on the subject matter and we

2852
02:57:36.600 --> 02:57:39.399
<v Speaker 3>try to and this is the thing that we really

2853
02:57:39.520 --> 02:57:41.760
<v Speaker 3>strive for in all three of our films. It's not

2854
02:57:41.840 --> 02:57:43.680
<v Speaker 3>the end all, be all, but they're a primer to

2855
02:57:43.840 --> 02:57:46.879
<v Speaker 3>give you at least the information to decide for yourself.

2856
02:57:47.399 --> 02:57:49.719
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of smart people out there, David yourself

2857
02:57:49.760 --> 02:57:53.360
<v Speaker 3>included in your staff, that can really see through a

2858
02:57:53.399 --> 02:57:55.680
<v Speaker 3>lot of this baloney. And we just try to present

2859
02:57:55.719 --> 02:57:58.239
<v Speaker 3>the information for not only the younger generation but the

2860
02:57:58.239 --> 02:58:03.120
<v Speaker 3>older generation to say, look, just give me something that's

2861
02:58:03.319 --> 02:58:08.440
<v Speaker 3>credible that these professionals are saying, that's been proven, you know,

2862
02:58:08.520 --> 02:58:11.639
<v Speaker 3>through time. It's consistent pattern of deception. We want to

2863
02:58:11.680 --> 02:58:13.600
<v Speaker 3>be able to be able to recognize that and make

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<v Speaker 3>decisions of our own. And then, of course the third

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<v Speaker 3>film was A Shadow Ring, which is a microcosm from

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<v Speaker 3>right after the Spanish American War through just before nine

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<v Speaker 3>to eleven and how these different events, whether it be

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<v Speaker 3>the sake of Lusitania would cause World War One, the

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02:58:29.360 --> 02:58:32.120
<v Speaker 3>attack on Pearl Harbor, who were actually the players behind

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<v Speaker 3>those and why was there deception and why were welied

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<v Speaker 3>to again, give you the information you decide. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>telling you how to think, but give you the tools

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<v Speaker 3>to think for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh excellent, okay, So Noble Line, State of Mind, Shadow Ring.

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<v Speaker 2>You find all these at freemindfilms dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>One big player. We do ask please do watch them

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<v Speaker 3>on our website. We get paid through the ads, YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>and rumble and all of the other websites have pirty copies.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't get monetized in there. They're unauthor so okay,

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<v Speaker 3>may I give a plug real quickly. So we're trying

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02:59:04.719 --> 02:59:08.360
<v Speaker 3>to raise funds for this investigation two avenues. If you

2882
02:59:08.399 --> 02:59:12.799
<v Speaker 3>can send a PayPal using the email OKC truth at

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<v Speaker 3>cox dot net. It's the PayPal account. Or if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to send a check directly to Freemindfilms, do so

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<v Speaker 3>at freemindfilms dot com. For FreeMat Films LLC, peel box

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<v Speaker 3>one six one three six, Saint Petersburg, Florida three three

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<v Speaker 3>seven three three greatly appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll put those in the description for the for the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, hope, hope that this moves forward. It's time

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<v Speaker 2>that we get Now, you've uncovered a lot of truth

2891
02:59:40.479 --> 02:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>in this stuff, and it should be pretty pretty clear

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02:59:42.799 --> 02:59:44.360
<v Speaker 2>for people. But we need to get this out to

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02:59:44.399 --> 02:59:47.680
<v Speaker 2>a broader audience, and we need to keep at this

2894
02:59:47.840 --> 02:59:51.399
<v Speaker 2>because they keep getting away with this over and over again,

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02:59:51.440 --> 02:59:53.479
<v Speaker 2>and quite frankly, I know you're tired of seeing them

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02:59:53.479 --> 02:59:55.120
<v Speaker 2>get away with that. I certainly am tired of seeing

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<v Speaker 2>them get away with There needs to be some justice

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<v Speaker 2>and Hopefully, you know, on on this side of eternity,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have some justice with this stuff, but we never know,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll keep pushing on it. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Emory. You've done great work with us, and thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for sticking with us again. People can support this

2903
03:00:15.360 --> 03:00:19.600
<v Speaker 2>research project there. We'll give them the PayPal information and

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03:00:19.719 --> 03:00:22.719
<v Speaker 2>the description as well where they can contribute with us,

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03:00:22.719 --> 03:00:24.079
<v Speaker 2>and they can find the films so they want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and see it. They can go to freemindfreemindfilms

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<v Speaker 2>dot com and watch these documentaries there. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>You're very welcome. Thank you David, Thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You everyone, Thank you for joining us. Have a good day.

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<v Speaker 2>The common man, they created common Core, dumbed down our children.

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<v Speaker 2>They created common past, track and control us their comments

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future.

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<v Speaker 2>They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary. But

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<v Speaker 2>each of us has worth and dignity created in the

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<v Speaker 2>image of God. That is what we have in common.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what they want to take away. Their most

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<v Speaker 2>powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know

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<v Speaker 2>everything about us, while they hide everything from us. It's

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03:01:33.719 --> 03:01:36.719
<v Speaker 2>time to turn that around and expose what they want

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<v Speaker 2>to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find

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<v Speaker 2>at the Davidknightshow dot com. Thank you for listening, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, please

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<v Speaker 2>keep us in your prayers. Ddavidknightshow dot com

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<v Speaker 14>To
