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<v Speaker 1>Wake up, suckers. We're thieves and we're bad guys. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what we are. Name that flick, name this show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our two hundredth episode. What that's right? Too many

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<v Speaker 1>hours of bitching about long dead media. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sums up podcasting right there, bitching about long dead media.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, midnight viewers to fond the Malone's weekly round up.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Father Malone. You know Ripley, Jean, my pug,

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<v Speaker 1>my pal, my bestest friend. What's up? Rip? No baby,

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<v Speaker 1>no Rip? Pick this week? Okay, well, I guess Rip

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<v Speaker 1>is done for the day. What about our bantering Rip

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<v Speaker 1>come back? Well, anyway, we are celebrating our longevity and

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween this week. So my initial thought was to do

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite horror movie, which is also my favorite movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's Dawn of the Dead. I really shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say this, but George A. Romero's Dawn of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dead Monroeville, mal Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It's where that quote was

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<v Speaker 1>from the Thieves and Bad Guys quote. It's the movie

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<v Speaker 1>that made me want to understand movies. I was young

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<v Speaker 1>enough to feel the emotions. It was pulling me toward,

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<v Speaker 1>but no understanding as to how. And I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>know how. You're hearing my voice right now as a

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<v Speaker 1>direct result of finding myself giggling through the worst living

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<v Speaker 1>nightmare imaginable. Don of the Dead is a topic I

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<v Speaker 1>could easily fill several hours right now with zero research.

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<v Speaker 1>About to rattle off a bunch of obscure facts here

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<v Speaker 1>to prove my bona fides. But I'm sure you trust

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<v Speaker 1>me at this point. Wait, here's one. John Ampliss, who

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<v Speaker 1>starred in Romero's previous film Martin was the casting director

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<v Speaker 1>on Don of the Dead, and he's got the lamentable

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<v Speaker 1>role of the Puerto Rican gang member during the opening

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<v Speaker 1>sequence in Philadelphia. What a great name, Philadelphia. It's fun

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<v Speaker 1>to say Philidelphia. I might be high right now. Gang.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of felt like I would be cheating to

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<v Speaker 1>just start waxing rhapsodic about Donna the Dead, and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know where to stop. I'll put a link

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes to frequent co host Mike White's podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>The Projection Booth. He was kind enough to have me

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<v Speaker 1>on to talk Don of the Dead a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and I say, basically everything I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>there in the most general way possible. Trust me, if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever want to have someone join at you for

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<v Speaker 1>an unending amount of time, ask me about Don of

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<v Speaker 1>the Dead. Oh also, if you're listening to this show

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<v Speaker 1>the week it's released, I'm going to invite you over

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<v Speaker 1>to the Projection Booth anyway, because Mike is doing his

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<v Speaker 1>annual schlock Toe and I'm on this week's episode, which

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<v Speaker 1>is another George Romero flake. It's his little scene quasi

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<v Speaker 1>supernatural film season of the Witch, originally titled Jack's Wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's gonna be my final appearance on the

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<v Speaker 1>Projection Booth, So check that out as well. So what

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<v Speaker 1>do we talk about? You read it in the title

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<v Speaker 1>and it's related. Oh boy, is it related? We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel zombies.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go all the Avengers are dead and they're coming

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<v Speaker 2>for us? All right, we got a world to say anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Ship my god? Whoa let's saw you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Then let's discuss Robert Kirkman. Shall we not really a

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<v Speaker 1>creator so much as an innovator, kind of like Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Feloni for Lucasfilm. If Dave Feloni handpicked by George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>to continue the saga and the lore of the universe

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<v Speaker 1>that he created, chose instead to create his own parallel

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<v Speaker 1>universe with techno knights with laser swords battling against enemy

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<v Speaker 1>troops in white armour. Actually, for that metaphor to work,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Feloni's Techno Knights of the Galaxy would have had

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<v Speaker 1>to surpass Star Wars, making it a qoint forerunner of

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<v Speaker 1>what most people now take as the genuine article. Because

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<v Speaker 1>The Walking Dead is one hundred percent a ripoff of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe created and shepherded over decades by George Andrew Romero.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care that Greg Ncato was in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>there are tips of the hat or homage to the

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<v Speaker 1>original trilogy. I wouldn't care if the ghost of George

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<v Speaker 1>Romero himself appeared to me and told me he was

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<v Speaker 1>cool with it, because I'm not. I'm glad that show

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<v Speaker 1>has employed and continues to employ, hundreds of skilled creatives.

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<v Speaker 1>May bubb a smile benevolently upon you, but fuck that

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<v Speaker 1>guy and fuck his comic book. Even Invincible while not

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<v Speaker 1>being a direct ripoff of anything is an in general

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<v Speaker 1>ripoff of everything. He's like Tarantino, just grab the bits

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<v Speaker 1>you like and now it's yours. I hate read that

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<v Speaker 1>entire run of Walking Dead. I don't even like his artwork.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the eighties, there was another zombie comic. It

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<v Speaker 1>was called Dead World, about a misfit band of young

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<v Speaker 1>adults on the road trying to avoid zombie hordes. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was great and it was respectful because it was cosmic.

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<v Speaker 1>They had fully coherent zombies that were inhabited by this

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<v Speaker 1>lovecrafty and horror from beyond the stars, so on the

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<v Speaker 1>same playground, but not making castles in some other kid's sandbox.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in two thousand and five, as the entire world

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<v Speaker 1>was waking up to the zombie phenomenon, someone at Marvel

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<v Speaker 1>had the bright idea to do a mini series with

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<v Speaker 1>undead superheroes. So they called Carlos Mincia and he delivered

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<v Speaker 1>two five issue runs that began in an alternate use

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<v Speaker 1>let's just call it the Zombie Universe, where a virus

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<v Speaker 1>has spread throughout the world that turns humans into zombies

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<v Speaker 1>and superheroes into zombified versions of themselves that retain their

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<v Speaker 1>character and consciousness and all of their powers except healing. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the source of the virus is never given, which I admire.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the humans turn into zombies, Well, there aren't

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of those, because the super zombies have pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much munched their way through the entire population of Earth

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<v Speaker 1>and now spend their days hunting down whichever hero has

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<v Speaker 1>yet to succumb. It was a fairly standard riff on

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<v Speaker 1>the what if comics, with the decidedly darker bent. Admittedly,

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<v Speaker 1>it was difficult watching Captain America eat the Silver Surfer,

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<v Speaker 1>but it had a cool open ending where all the

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<v Speaker 1>remaining zombie heroes attack and devour Galactis and then spread

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<v Speaker 1>out to the stars to find more food. It became

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<v Speaker 1>an erratically released series after that, with the last issues

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty eighteen. I think that was Zombie's assemble,

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<v Speaker 1>putting Kirkman and my feelings for him aside for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, he was an independent contractor and only wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the first ten. Since there have been a cavalcade of

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<v Speaker 1>talented writers and artists attached to the series, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>gone in truly interesting directions with it. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>comic book series manages to elude the main problem with

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<v Speaker 1>any zombie piece of entertainment Romero included in any empty

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<v Speaker 1>world movie or TV show set here in our world,

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<v Speaker 1>not on some distant galaxy. After the initial crush of

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<v Speaker 1>the zombie outbreak, all hope goes out the window. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not right away, you can cheat it for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but a world where zombies can't be cured or the

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenon can't be stopped is no longer a world for humans,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will never be secure until they're all eaten

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<v Speaker 1>or zombies themselves. It's just a succession of pyrrhic victories.

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<v Speaker 1>It took Romero until Day of the Dead to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out he was on the zombie side all along, but

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<v Speaker 1>he got there. Back in twenty twenty one, Marvel introduced

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<v Speaker 1>an animated season of What If storylines. What better way

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce the idea of a multiverse than an anthology

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<v Speaker 1>of tales set in different day mentions, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>those plots they chose to pontificate upon was our Undead

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<v Speaker 1>Superpowered Pals. But like most translations from Marvel to MCU,

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<v Speaker 1>it is all the way different. In fact, the What

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<v Speaker 1>If animated episodes are based on the films and not

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<v Speaker 1>the comics at all, which is appropriate. So what If

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<v Speaker 1>Zombies had the virus starting in the Quantum Realm and

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<v Speaker 1>released by Hank Pim when Janet van Dyne comes back

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<v Speaker 1>with a penchant for human flesh, and it concerns the

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<v Speaker 1>last living heroes trying to get the Mindstone from Vision

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<v Speaker 1>who's alive, and Wanda who's not, so that they can

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<v Speaker 1>get to Wakanda and reverse the curse. It has a

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<v Speaker 1>great ending, perfectly self contained if you wanted it to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But then again, Marvel cried more so now, and by

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<v Speaker 1>that I mean last year because this was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>come out last Halloween, but they double booked and we

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<v Speaker 1>got Agatha all along. Boy, that was one of my

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<v Speaker 1>first weekly roundups, and instead the Marvel Zombies had to

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<v Speaker 1>wait till the end of September of this year, when

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<v Speaker 1>all four episodes of the show were released. They're using

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<v Speaker 1>the Evil Dead two fun for the title in case

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed familiar, and the story picks up five years

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<v Speaker 1>after the end of that what If episode. We follow

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<v Speaker 1>the last groups of living superpowered folk as they draw

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<v Speaker 1>a young Avengers group with Miss Marvel and Ironheart and Hawkeye.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Kate Pierce Hawkeye Undead Clint Barton is here too,

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<v Speaker 1>Dealer and shang Chi who's been bitten but the power

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ten Rings is staving off the infection. And

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<v Speaker 1>along the way we get barren Zimo and US Agent

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<v Speaker 1>and Valkyrie and the Abomination, and yeah, Thor and Rocket

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<v Speaker 1>and Groot and Spider Man show up, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>Captain America and the return of recent go to Boogeyman

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<v Speaker 1>the Scarlet Witch. But what strupped me over all was

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<v Speaker 1>how goddamn capable this so called b team of Marvel

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<v Speaker 1>heroes is and how fucking watchable they all are interacting

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<v Speaker 1>with one another, And given how long it's been since

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen some of these characters, it was a welcome

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<v Speaker 1>reminder how much I do like them. Who the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>is the next shang Chi flick? We've had Trevor Slattery

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<v Speaker 1>return before we had shang Chi show back up. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of waiting fucking endlessly, we get Blade in this show

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<v Speaker 1>so far we've only had his voice at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the eternals that was mahershela Ali's voice, and since

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<v Speaker 1>this is an all vocal performance, they got an actor

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<v Speaker 1>named Todd Williams to play Blade way to keep everything

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<v Speaker 1>simple and easy to follow, Kevin, because of those endless

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<v Speaker 1>delays on Blade's feature debut, I don't think they've nailed

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<v Speaker 1>down his character design yet because we don't really get

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<v Speaker 1>Blade here at all. We get Blade Night, remember Moonnight, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Spector's dead here, and Conchu has bonded with Blade,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's a day walker Egyptian deity. That's some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>fucking high concept shit right there. But it also shrouds

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<v Speaker 1>him to him and Moonnight's white cloaks, which is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>badass on him. Each of the episodes, while dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the main plot overall, are wildly different in tone and approach,

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<v Speaker 1>with the first the most overt horror. Maybe I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching it alone at two am, but there's some creepy

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<v Speaker 1>fucking stuff they do in it, and I legitimately jumped once.

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<v Speaker 1>The second episode is more action a la Matt Max

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<v Speaker 1>with the West Coast team, and it all ends with

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<v Speaker 1>an undead, cosmic, mystical reboot of Endgame that sounds potentially awful,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. I found a lot of the same excitement

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<v Speaker 1>present here. Look, the dialogue is tenured at best, but

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<v Speaker 1>the images are so goddamn strong, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>where this plot goes and where it ends up are

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<v Speaker 1>fairly innovative for a zombie flick. Oh yeah, four episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>four half hours. That's what you call a movie, And

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<v Speaker 1>evidently that's how it began its life. At some point

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<v Speaker 1>they got cold feet. But if you're gonna release all

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<v Speaker 1>four episodes telling the whole story on the same night anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>just make it a feature. But the fuck I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>down for more of this. Like the run of comics,

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent Price episode. The other and actually way more appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>My Nightmare and schools Out, a tune that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>There's a musical number called Glowworm, which features a mirror

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<v Speaker 1>The song is You're Always Welcome, at our House, which

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<v Speaker 1>home and what her demented family of cannibals do to

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<v Speaker 1>their guests. Boy, they don't make children's entertainment quite like

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<v Speaker 1>they used to. But I think I'm gonna go out

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<v Speaker 1>now and find some more. Okay, listen up. This Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>Yaouchifest continues with Predator Killer of Killers. Next Friday, Yauchi

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<v Speaker 1>Fest concludes for now with Predator Badlands. With that shift

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<v Speaker 1>in the schedule, that means next week at this time

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<v Speaker 1>the following Monday after if that makes sense. Basically, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>still have shows Monday and Friday for the next two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>but Ripley and I are taking a brief hiatus to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. I'm totally fucking exhausted, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>got even more changes coming later in the year and

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<v Speaker 1>definitely in the new year. Exciting doings will be transpiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for two hundred episodes. The next two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred will be even better.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you come to a house a house, when

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<v Speaker 2>you come to our house, we will have some life.

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<v Speaker 1>We will ask you to be coming and we will

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<v Speaker 1>take you in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>We will put you in the other to.

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<v Speaker 1>You my jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, come out.

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<v Speaker 1>Time of the day, yes, sure always walk coming house.

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<v Speaker 2>You start and we know you will star.