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Speaker 2: Last night, our time, we got news that Pope Francis
Speaker 2: died at the age of eighty eight. It would have
Speaker 2: been Monday already in Italy. What we don't know is
Speaker 2: exactly how he died. There are some Italian media outlets
Speaker 2: that are suggesting that this was a stroke, would have
Speaker 2: been brought on by complications from the really difficult health
Speaker 2: struggles that he's had.
Speaker 1: Over the last It wouldn't surprise me if they just
Speaker 1: sent him home and we're like, Okay, we're going to
Speaker 1: make you comfortable kind of a thing. After the recent hospitalization, JD.
Speaker 1: Vance went from the Ohio State championship trophy to the
Speaker 1: Pope like he's Drake, keep me away from JD. Vance.
Speaker 3: He's moved. He and his wife are now in India.
Speaker 3: I believe her.
Speaker 1: Good luck India. Say a prayer for India.
Speaker 2: So this is going to be one of those dark
Speaker 2: I guess that's going to be in jdvan is o
Speaker 2: bit that he was.
Speaker 3: There with that he was there right before.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is wild that was a Jdvans bucket
Speaker 1: list personally and politically. Now he had only converted to
Speaker 1: Catholicism in twenty nineteen in his mid thirties, which I
Speaker 1: found was interesting. And a pope that has been vocal
Speaker 1: anti Trump, vocal, very progressive pope. Some call him a communist,
Speaker 1: but this was a very liberal, progressive pope. So it
Speaker 1: was interesting that JD. Vance So wanted an audience with him.
Speaker 2: So we have this kind of a dark cloud over
Speaker 2: for the next couple of weeks as the Pope will
Speaker 2: lie in state while then the conclave comes together, we
Speaker 2: choose a new pope, and it goes on for a
Speaker 2: couple two three weeks. Joining us to talk more about
Speaker 2: some of the reaction to all of this is Libby Dean,
Speaker 2: who is a White House correspondent with News Nation.
Speaker 3: Libby, good morning, good morning, Thanks for having me, you bet.
Speaker 1: So what's next, Libby, Well, next is.
Speaker 4: If the President is going to attend Frances's funeral or not.
Speaker 4: And he actually was just asked several times about it
Speaker 4: during the Easter eggle of it that just wrapped up
Speaker 4: here at the White House, and it seems that he
Speaker 4: doesn't have the answer himself. He was said that he's
Speaker 4: going to be briefed on it soon and then they're
Speaker 4: going to make a decision. But it seems like there
Speaker 4: hasn't been a decision made. But we know the two
Speaker 4: have a history as well. We're mentioning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not think it would not surprise me
Speaker 1: if he did not. I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect this
Speaker 1: president to go to the pope's funeral for a variety
Speaker 1: of reasons. I mean, he's not a Catholic and there
Speaker 1: has been some division there, and it's not like it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be odd if he was not in attendance. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I mean, do all American presidents go when
Speaker 1: a pope dies.
Speaker 4: I guess it's been what over a decade since this
Speaker 4: has happened. I don't remember if Obama had gone. The
Speaker 4: timeline in my head isn't there. But I think it
Speaker 4: would be a little shocking, just because President Trump really
Speaker 4: courted the Catholic community and has tried to show some
Speaker 4: unity on that front, despite their differences and things in
Speaker 4: their views on immigration in the border wall, that was
Speaker 4: the biggest conflict between them and past I would be
Speaker 4: kind of shocked if he didn't go, but who knows.
Speaker 2: I also just read, as before the show started here,
Speaker 2: the President Trump ordered all of federal buildings federal properties
Speaker 2: to fly the flag at half staff.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just made that announcement actually from the balcony
Speaker 4: at the Easter egg role of it that he has
Speaker 4: now ordered all federal flags and state flags to be
Speaker 4: at half staff. And that is what he referenced when
Speaker 4: he was pressed by reporters on if he was going
Speaker 4: to go to the funeral or not, he said, you
Speaker 4: know what, I'm doing what I can right now, which
Speaker 4: is ordering flags at half staff. But now that I
Speaker 4: am thinking about it's any hesitation from him on that front.
Speaker 4: You would think you would just say, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm going to go, rather than saying I need to
Speaker 4: be briefed on it, that kind of thing. So maybe
Speaker 4: there is some hesitation there given the twot's history.
Speaker 2: A quick sidelight, if you don't mind, Libby, I noticed
Speaker 2: on Twitter on acts you posted the story about Christine
Speaker 2: Noem having a bunch of stuff stolen. What's going on
Speaker 2: with that story?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So a DHS official confirmed this News Nation that Christinome
Speaker 4: was eating dinner last night and had a bunch of
Speaker 4: stuff stolen from her, and that included three thousand dollars
Speaker 4: in cash for driver's license keys, passport, DHS access badge,
Speaker 4: and blank checks. Notably, her phones weren't taken. That was
Speaker 4: something that a DHS official was pointing out because of
Speaker 4: course those have sensitive information on them as well as
Speaker 4: she probably has her government phone on her as well.
Speaker 4: But that thousand in cash is what when I first
Speaker 4: saw this story circulating, and now we have a confirmed organization.
Speaker 4: When I saw it circulating, I was like, three thousand
Speaker 4: dollars in cash is a lot to be carrying around. Well,
Speaker 4: the DHS official explained this as a no having her
Speaker 4: family in town and she wanted to treat them to
Speaker 4: like Easter gifts and activities and dinner and stuff while
Speaker 4: they were in town. So yeah, but that certainly an
Speaker 4: unfortunate event for Christinoam with her DHS badge and all
Speaker 4: of those things taken from her. And I wonder where
Speaker 4: that thief is now, and I don't know how that
Speaker 4: is progressing. When it comes to an investigation, I'll have
Speaker 4: to look into that.
Speaker 3: Was it stolen from her home, from her residence, and want.
Speaker 4: I understand it was stolen while she was eating dinner
Speaker 4: in DC somewhere, is what I understand. That's the DHS
Speaker 4: official told NewsNation.
Speaker 3: So all right, great Lebby, thanks for your.
Speaker 4: Time, thanks for having me for good rest your day.
Speaker 2: You bet, Levy Dean there again, News Nation's White House correspondent.
Speaker 1: Let's see, Benedict died in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: But he wasn't.
Speaker 1: But I mean when he when he died, he wasn't
Speaker 1: the pope, right right, nobody went. Nobody went Pope John
Speaker 1: Paul the Second's funeral. Everybody went George W. Bush, Clinton,
Speaker 1: George H. W. Everyone.
Speaker 2: Well, he was also, if I'm not mistaken, John Paul
Speaker 2: the Second was like the third longest.
Speaker 1: He was like the most popular. Well maybe it's just
Speaker 1: my my lifetime. He was.
Speaker 2: He was very popular. I was just gonna say he
Speaker 2: was the pope. He was the I thought he was
Speaker 2: always the pope.
Speaker 3: I did go up. I just thought he was right.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was going to die. I think
Speaker 1: there's been hundreds of them. It was very confusing growing
Speaker 1: up Catholic and knowing there was a pope and then
Speaker 1: he dies, like you know, the world comes CROs So
Speaker 1: what's going on with Jesus. Jesus now has is not yet?
Speaker 1: Isn't he out for a while?
Speaker 3: What do you mean out?
Speaker 1: He doesn't ascend for like forty days? Right, No, he's
Speaker 1: he's oh he did, he did the thing. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't do the ascension right away, but right.
Speaker 2: But he's well, okay, he's like chilling resurrected. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: out of the tomb.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, he's out and about walking around talking
Speaker 1: to people right now for forty days? Right, I got
Speaker 1: that right? I think the forty day him in the desert. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how many days are sev Oh.
Speaker 3: That's a good amy. I think you're right. I think
Speaker 3: seventeen days is?
Speaker 1: I think it's forty days you guys, Oh, it is
Speaker 1: forty guys. I thought that's how long he he wandered
Speaker 1: in the wilder. Parents didn't spend all that money for
Speaker 1: me not to know. It's forty days of Jesus out
Speaker 1: walking around after Easter. All right, all right, coming up next,
Speaker 1: more on the pope. What's next? The conclave is upon us.
Speaker 1: We'll get a look at the process.
Speaker 2: Low key funeral is is what Francis I would to
Speaker 2: assume he's a he's a progressive super low, doesn't want
Speaker 2: to spend it, doesn't want the gold plate at anything.
Speaker 1: Probably he probably wants it in dirt somewhere.
Speaker 2: Well, he's just going for the old oak. I don't
Speaker 2: even know if it's oak, the old pine box. He's
Speaker 2: not doing the pine inside, the lead inside the He's
Speaker 2: just doing.
Speaker 1: I definitely want a pine box. I could see that
Speaker 1: I want to be buried. I don't want to be burned,
Speaker 1: and I want a pine box.
Speaker 3: I'll make a pine box out of Palette Way.
Speaker 1: And I want you to bury me in Pioneer Park
Speaker 1: why And I know that they don't people there anymore,
Speaker 1: but I think you could do it in the night.
Speaker 3: In the night. I'd like you to respect this with
Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 1: This is the season of faith. Really, you've got to
Speaker 1: have faith in God and Jesus and have faith that
Speaker 1: there was a resurrection and ascension, the whole bit right.
Speaker 1: And this is also the doubting Thomas time. This is
Speaker 1: the time when Jesus proves to Thomas's the disciple. Sure,
Speaker 1: because Thomas was like your average Joe and he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in this crap.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He had an awful weekend and then was like, they
Speaker 2: said the stone is rolled away, come in and check
Speaker 2: it out, and he was like, I don't believe.
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't I don't believe you. Jesus goes,
Speaker 1: he hooks up with the other disciples. They meet in
Speaker 1: a locked room and they're like, oh my god, you're
Speaker 1: back right. Thomas wasn't there. He's like, I don't believe
Speaker 1: it until I see it, until I can touch the
Speaker 1: wounds in Jesus's hands. I'm not going to believe that
Speaker 1: until I can touch his side. Y'all are crazy. So
Speaker 1: Jesus goes to Thomas. He's like, here, I am bro
Speaker 1: burh and that is how uh and that is how
Speaker 1: we uh we make sense of all the faith and
Speaker 1: the faith that you need to have.
Speaker 3: Is that translated from the original Aramaic? By the way,
Speaker 3: here I am bro I paraphrased.
Speaker 1: Okay, I took liberties with the Bible.
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Speaker 2: Vatican not announced the immediate cause of Pope Francis's death,
Speaker 2: although there are a couple of media outlets in Italy
Speaker 2: that have said that this may have been a cerebral hemorrhage,
Speaker 2: possibly a stroke, said to be unrelated to the respiratory
Speaker 2: problems the pneumonia that he suffered back in February.
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see what they do
Speaker 1: picking the new pope. It's not just about religion, it's
Speaker 1: about politics. Unfortunately, well, a lot of religion is politics.
Speaker 1: Catholic Church specifically I don't know about the other ones,
Speaker 1: but a lot of politics are going on the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1: They say the next pope could come from Africa, Italy,
Speaker 1: Sri Lanka, possibly even America, but that whoever is elected
Speaker 1: to follow him is going to be back to the
Speaker 1: center of things. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean this guy,
Speaker 1: this was a guy who put down the Latin Mass,
Speaker 1: which is like throwing holy water into well. I won't
Speaker 1: go down that rud of okay, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like that is a real no no to
Speaker 1: Catholics to turn your back on the Latin Mass. It's
Speaker 1: one of the strongholds, one of the things that you
Speaker 1: hold dear as a Catholic, and his turning is back
Speaker 1: on that as well as the support for the lgbtq
Speaker 1: AI plus community. Not just support, because popes have supported
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church has supported this community, but his degree
Speaker 1: of support, shall we say, Well.
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny. I actually heard an interesting point
Speaker 2: on that. Bishop David O'Connell out of Trenton, New Jersey,
Speaker 2: was asked, what about the comment this would have been
Speaker 2: early on in Pope Francis' tenure, if that's what you
Speaker 2: call it, papacy where.
Speaker 3: He was asked.
Speaker 2: He was on an airplane and he was asked a
Speaker 2: question that was basically, what if what if someone is
Speaker 2: gay and searches for the Lord? He was asked, what
Speaker 2: do you do?
Speaker 3: What's your on that?
Speaker 2: And the Pope said, if someone is gay and searches
Speaker 2: for the Lord and has good will, who am I
Speaker 2: to judge? Is what the Pope said, perfect, which is
Speaker 2: I mean very biblical. Yeah, who is he to judge?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: Even if he's the pope, he's not the one who
Speaker 2: judges ultimately. So this was this bishop's response to that
Speaker 2: question of was this groundbreaking when he said it ten
Speaker 2: twelve years ago.
Speaker 6: I would think it was very significant. However, people make
Speaker 6: a great deal out of it. You have to understand
Speaker 6: the context in which that statement was made. He was
Speaker 6: on a plane and he often spoke off the cuff,
Speaker 6: and sometimes that disturbed people. People gave many, many different
Speaker 6: interpretations to that statement. Our Holy Father loved everyone, and
Speaker 6: he wanted everyone to feel welcome in the church, including
Speaker 6: the people who are gain lesbian.
Speaker 1: So the church is no different when it comes to
Speaker 1: just play your game, sing your songs. And I say
Speaker 1: that in the way of Most people are much more
Speaker 1: comfortable with athletes doing what athletes do. Play your gay,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about your opinions. Same thing
Speaker 1: with Hollywood and with singers and the like. Do what
Speaker 1: you do. We're not here for your politics, We're here
Speaker 1: for your mastery. In X, Y and Z, the church
Speaker 1: is the same way. They're going to get back to
Speaker 1: a pope who's more turned inward. It's going to be
Speaker 1: somebody who is going to be focused on the church
Speaker 1: and not somebody who's going to provide off the cuff
Speaker 1: remarks that serve as a distraction. In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: think that's what they're going to do. The pendulum is
Speaker 1: going to swing the other way.
Speaker 2: The whole list of the I think they've referred to
Speaker 2: it as the Papa Billy, the potential popes that are
Speaker 2: out there, these cardinals that have been.
Speaker 1: The fun word what papability like possibility, but propability, propability.
Speaker 2: And like you said, they're from all over the place. Stockholm,
Speaker 2: Me and mar a couple from France, one of them
Speaker 2: from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Manila, Philippines, Vatican City.
Speaker 1: Even the logistics are this within twenty days a conclave. Remarkable,
Speaker 1: isn't it that this is the time when Jesus is
Speaker 1: right in the pope dying right Easter, and.
Speaker 3: It's just very odd, it's not our timing.
Speaker 1: Within twenty days of the pope's death, a conclave of
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty cardinals out of the one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty eight princes of the church.
Speaker 3: Who's left out?
Speaker 1: Well, people older than eighty, right, if you're over then
Speaker 1: eighty you do not get a vote. So that's one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty out of the one hundred and thirty eight.
Speaker 1: They go together to the Vatican. Who gets that catering contract?
Speaker 1: That's what I think they do. I think they have
Speaker 1: in house. They do. They have their own kitchen at
Speaker 1: the Vatican.
Speaker 3: Pretty good.
Speaker 1: But what if they want to order out, what if
Speaker 1: they want to door dash those meetings? Guarantee U Chef
Speaker 1: Bruno would be on that list. Oh good call. Four
Speaker 1: daily ballots are held until a successor is picked as
Speaker 1: opposed to a successor.
Speaker 3: Right, someone who's bringing someone?
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone has ourt time with the distinction there and
Speaker 1: that person is missing.
Speaker 2: And while they're doing the voting, that's where the smoke
Speaker 2: comes in. He Yeah, after thirty ballots.
Speaker 1: The the top two candidates will be the only ones allowed,
Speaker 1: and whoever gets a two thirds majority will become the
Speaker 1: next pope. There's a lot of jockeying that goes on,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. You mentioned some of the top candidates
Speaker 1: which we went down the list. By the way, the
Speaker 1: lat when he was in the hospital in grave condition.
Speaker 1: I believe he was in grave condition. Those were there.
Speaker 1: There are words otherwise we wouldn't have gone through. The
Speaker 1: six men that are talked about. There's a cardinal out
Speaker 1: of the Philippines, one out of Ukraine's. They're everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 1: I have got a favorite. I got to remember who
Speaker 1: my favorite is.
Speaker 3: You're gonna put odds on it right now.
Speaker 1: Is somebody is. I don't know enough. This is going
Speaker 1: to shock you. I don't know enough about the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church to set the odds on the next pope.
Speaker 2: Your suggestion, though, about an African pope or a progressive pope.
Speaker 3: I think you make a good point. They're done with that.
Speaker 3: They're going to go back.
Speaker 2: This pendulum is going to swing back much more to
Speaker 2: the center of popes.
Speaker 1: I'll throw in this wrench. One of the names being
Speaker 1: thrown out there is Cardinal Pietro Peroline seventy. He's Italian,
Speaker 1: he is conservative, but he's also back to the relationship
Speaker 1: between the Church and China. Interesting, big proponent of that,
Speaker 1: largely considered a favorite because of the way he thinks
Speaker 1: about global religion and his diplomatic experience.
Speaker 2: In that realm, we will I mean, there's not a
Speaker 2: lot of new stuff coming out of the Vatican, obviously
Speaker 2: because the event itself has now taken place, but there
Speaker 2: are preparations that are being made within four to six
Speaker 2: days is usually when they schedule the funerals.
Speaker 3: So if we hear from the Vatican, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: A full blown melt down at the Pentagon.
Speaker 2: Don't know what's going on, do not know what's going on,
Speaker 2: And the arrogance and the arrogance of certainty, perhaps is
Speaker 2: what bothers me the most about what's going on at
Speaker 2: the Pentagon.
Speaker 1: That's what bothers me in a lot of areas, the
Speaker 1: arrogance of certainty.
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Speaker 3: I'll find a way.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: International story, of course, is that Pope Francis has died
Speaker 2: at the age of eighty eight. The Vatican made the
Speaker 2: announcement this morning. It's technically ten to thirty last night
Speaker 2: our time, but they wrote in a statement the Bishop
Speaker 2: of Rome Francis had returned to the home of the Father.
Speaker 2: His entire life was dedicated to the service of the
Speaker 2: Lord and of his church. He died just a day
Speaker 2: after I met with Vice President JD.
Speaker 3: Vance.
Speaker 2: They had an awkward exchange at the Vatican on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Francis was not happy about the Trump administration's treatment of migrants,
Speaker 2: and it came just a day after Vance. It looked
Speaker 2: like the big headline of the weekend was it looked
Speaker 2: like Vance was going to be snubbed by the Pope
Speaker 2: and in fact was forced to meet with a Secretary
Speaker 2: of State there at the Vatican. But the Pope did
Speaker 2: meet the Vice President just yesterday. Jad Vance and his
Speaker 2: wife and kids are arriving in New Delhi today. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen the those are listen. You
Speaker 2: may not like JD.
Speaker 3: Vance. I don't care.
Speaker 2: The kit pictures of his kids getting off of helicopters
Speaker 2: and Air Force two are very endearing because they're plopping
Speaker 2: around in their pajamas with headphones on are like earmuffs
Speaker 2: on to protect their hearing from the Tarmaccient.
Speaker 1: Young kid, very sweet, very sweet young family. Absolutely did
Speaker 1: you hear about the new celebrity romance that became Instagram
Speaker 1: official over the weekend? I know you stay on top
Speaker 1: of all of the celebrity romance stories. You love love,
Speaker 1: You just love love, I believe are your words. I
Speaker 1: just love love.
Speaker 3: I don't think I know.
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Hurley and Billy Ray Cyrus. Yes, yes, I knew
Speaker 1: that would be on your radar.
Speaker 3: I knew it more because of him than her.
Speaker 2: I mean I follow him pretty pretty religiously on on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Do you remember a couple of weeks ago when out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, you started talking about princess or No, she's
Speaker 1: not a princess Megan Merkle Markle duchess. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: you were doing it unironically, like you were just mentioning
Speaker 1: something for like ninety five seconds about her new line
Speaker 1: of like candles.
Speaker 3: And stuff with candles and jams, and.
Speaker 1: You said it without any irony. You were presenting it
Speaker 1: like it was a real news item that you have
Speaker 1: thought that people should consider and know about. And that
Speaker 1: still blows me away. I thought about it over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I thought about remember that funny time when Gary talked
Speaker 1: about Megan Markle seriously for a while, for at least
Speaker 1: a couple minutes. Remember that funny time. Well, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have that long, but you over that. It wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gone on that long except you didn't stop me. I
Speaker 1: was kind of expecting you to stop it down pretty quickly,
Speaker 1: and you never have. I just let you finish that,
Speaker 1: you know, because I don't know what you're going through
Speaker 1: over there.
Speaker 3: She had ducks on her property yesterday.
Speaker 1: I don't so I don't care, but you do, and
Speaker 1: I'm here for you.
Speaker 2: There are new reports that Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth
Speaker 2: is dropping detailed battle information about forthcoming strikes in Yemen
Speaker 2: in another another private signal group chat that include such
Speaker 2: military luminaries as his wife, his brother, and his personal attorney.
Speaker 1: Now his attorney and brother I think work at the
Speaker 1: Defense Department, don't they?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think they do. I don't know why his attorney would,
Speaker 1: but I think his brother definitely works in the Defense Department.
Speaker 1: That's neither here nor there. The wife certainly doesn't. They
Speaker 1: both have jobs at the Pentagon yet. Okay, it's not
Speaker 1: classified information, but the optics are awful. There's a former
Speaker 1: top Pentagon spokesman who resigned last week and he says
Speaker 1: that it is a full blown meltdown at the capital
Speaker 1: at the Pentagon, that his leadership, Pete haig Seth's leadership
Speaker 1: at the Department of the Defense has been chaotic.
Speaker 2: Now that guy who has resigned, there are other versions
Speaker 2: of it where the Pentagon officials told him you're out,
Speaker 2: so you better resign before it gets out that you're fired.
Speaker 2: He's one of four people, I think, and three of
Speaker 2: them are within Pete hag Seth's inner circle.
Speaker 1: There you're in family court at this point. You can't
Speaker 1: believe one side or the other. You know, this guy
Speaker 1: says it's been a month of chaos at the Pentagon
Speaker 1: following the leaks of the operational plans to massive firings.
Speaker 1: The dysfunction now a major distraction for the president. But
Speaker 1: like you said, this was a guy being forced out
Speaker 1: so take it with a grain of salt.
Speaker 3: Here's what Pete haig Seth said, What a.
Speaker 1: Big surprise that a bunch of a few leaders get fired.
Speaker 6: And suddenly a bunch of hit pieces come out.
Speaker 5: From the same media that pedaled the Russia hopes won't
Speaker 5: get back to Pulitzers.
Speaker 3: They got Pultzers for a bunch of lies.
Speaker 2: Okay, he goes on and on and on. It doesn't
Speaker 2: just say yeah, I'm not doing that again. See had
Speaker 2: some sort of mariachis that was this morning at the
Speaker 2: White House Eastern egg roll. Okay, just come out and say, listen,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that anymore. I first of all,
Speaker 2: it wasn't classified information. These people may not have necessarily
Speaker 2: needed to know the information that I put out there, so.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that again.
Speaker 1: All you have to say is unclassified, and I deleted
Speaker 1: the app and be tune with it.
Speaker 2: But instead you got to keep going, well that guy
Speaker 2: I did that. Yeah, they said the thing, and then
Speaker 2: it's part of the problem.
Speaker 1: It's part of the way that the administration handles things.
Speaker 1: Though there's a lot of finger pointing. I'm speaking of
Speaker 1: finger pointing. The president is pointing a finger at Jerome Powell,
Speaker 1: and Wall Street is responding, and it's really bad. He
Speaker 1: went on social media. Truth social the president did to
Speaker 1: call Jerome Powell a complete loser. And now the Dow's
Speaker 1: down of like a thousand points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, the economy could be slowing unless mister
Speaker 2: too late, he calls him mister too late, a major loser,
Speaker 2: lowers interest rates.
Speaker 3: Now they do not like that, they.
Speaker 2: Being whoever they are that buy the stocks and the bonds,
Speaker 2: and the dows down nine hundred and eighty three points,
Speaker 2: it's about two and a half percent. S and P
Speaker 2: five hundred Nasdak are in that same boat, down about
Speaker 2: two and a half two point eight percent. So and
Speaker 2: nobody can get in this guy's ear and just say, hey,
Speaker 2: cool it on the whole fed chair thing.
Speaker 3: You're not going to force them out, and.
Speaker 2: You're only gonna You're only gonna royal the mar markets
Speaker 2: even more.
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Speaker 1: Okay, if you didn't fall into the latest Netflix trap
Speaker 1: for females, you are a stronger woman than I for females,
Speaker 1: because I fell into the Ransom Canyon trap. Yesterday and man,
Speaker 1: did I felt what? Yeah? I fell and it's awful.
Speaker 1: And you know it's awful, every single moment of the
Speaker 1: four episodes you plowed through in one sitting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. My wife fell down that well too,
Speaker 3: of course she did.
Speaker 1: It's what we do. It feels good, though, there feels
Speaker 1: the lighting. It's the lighting, it's the set in where
Speaker 1: I think this one's filmed in New Mexico. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's all of those things. It makes it feel. It's
Speaker 1: very country. You're out on a farm, so you're feeling good.
Speaker 3: Familiar faces, right.
Speaker 1: Old familiar faces in Lila Garret and Josh Dumal, who
Speaker 1: she's my age, but she looks twenty two, so she
Speaker 1: looks wildly too young for Josh.
Speaker 3: Josh Duamal, who's probably mid forty fifty.
Speaker 1: Two, he's fifty meat, he's me uh huh, but all
Speaker 1: he looks a lot older than you do.
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Not he does in this show, in my opinion, because.
Speaker 3: They gray him up, don't they.
Speaker 1: They do? But I love the gray. I just think
Speaker 1: he's I don't know if I love the gray hair
Speaker 1: on him. Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's great.
Speaker 1: Everything's wonderful. I don't need to be a hater.
Speaker 2: Later in the show, we're going to get some more
Speaker 2: details about what goes on now at the Vatican after
Speaker 2: the death of Pope Francis yesterday at the age sorry,
Speaker 2: this morning, at the age of eighty eight. Bells have
Speaker 2: told around the world to announce the death. President Trump,
Speaker 2: just a short time before the show started, announced that
Speaker 2: he had signed the executive order that declares that all
Speaker 2: federal and state flags around the United States and American
Speaker 2: properties around the world will fly it has to in
Speaker 2: honor of the Pope.
Speaker 1: Stalks down sharply on Wall Street as Trump continues to
Speaker 1: go after Fed Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. The daw was
Speaker 1: down one thousand, what's it more than a four than
Speaker 1: one thousand now? Nasdaq down five six and the S
Speaker 1: and P five hundred down about one hundred and fifty,
Speaker 1: calling him, as we mentioned, a major loser on his
Speaker 1: social media platform today. Also, tariff concerns continue to bubble
Speaker 1: up above the surface.
Speaker 3: Shall we say well?
Speaker 2: Americans spent an estimated seventy one point seven billion dollars
Speaker 2: on GLP ones including ozempic and wagovi in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: That's two years ago. That's before everybody started talking about them.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what that number is going to be
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five, but that would be a five
Speaker 2: hundred percent increase from their spending on those drugs from
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen for five years before that.
Speaker 1: They're working. Now, what kind of I don't mean to
Speaker 1: be a spoil sport go on, but what kind of
Speaker 1: stress are you putting your body through?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is it more than you're doing with the way that
Speaker 1: you used to eat? Is it more stress we're putting
Speaker 1: on our bodies by stressing out about weight. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is how long have
Speaker 1: these been circulating?
Speaker 3: Well, I've been around for years.
Speaker 1: Make no mistake about it. If this was available and
Speaker 1: I had an issue in this department, I would one
Speaker 1: hundred percent probably do the thing. But I do still
Speaker 1: have a concern about could you be on it forever?
Speaker 1: I mean, does it change your lifestyle enough to where
Speaker 1: you can stop taking this and continue on with your
Speaker 1: healthy lifestyle and still have the same results.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's enough. I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's enough evidence to say yes or no. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just they've been around for a long time. But
Speaker 2: I don't know if they've been around for the length
Speaker 2: of time that we would need to make decisions like that.
Speaker 1: But the money, I mean, you knew the money was
Speaker 1: going to be big, but this is bigger than I
Speaker 1: even thought.
Speaker 2: There are different kinds in this kind of in this space,
Speaker 2: there are different kinds. You've got the semiglutides, which would
Speaker 2: be ozembic, rabelsis and Wagovi. You've got Munjaro, which is tirzeppetide. Okay,
Speaker 2: but those two groups make up about seventy one percent
Speaker 2: of all GLP one spending. There's some other brands that
Speaker 2: kind of get mixed in there. Then there are organizations
Speaker 2: that will mix brands together and sell those to you
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fascinated by is the behind the scenes story
Speaker 1: of big pharma having a major player role in Washington
Speaker 1: and processed foods having a major player role in Washington.
Speaker 1: And if you have friends that do this, you know
Speaker 1: that they are not snacking. They're not doing the processed
Speaker 1: food snacking not nearly as much. And holy hell, the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes war must be something to behold. I'll
Speaker 1: watch that movie when it comes out of the processed
Speaker 1: foods people versus big pharma. I mean, because it's basically
Speaker 1: the tobacco industry versus big pharma.
Speaker 2: I And how do we determine where where do we
Speaker 2: wait five years, ten years to see how this pans out?
Speaker 2: Or is it even going to take that long? I
Speaker 2: think people are be a giant reckoning between these two.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, either
Speaker 1: some long term side effects rear their ugly head, or
Speaker 1: they become punitively expensive. I don't know who wins. I
Speaker 1: don't know whoever has the power. From time to time, the.
Speaker 2: Fig is with people buying more and then producing more
Speaker 2: and more of them. I think the price goes down.
Speaker 2: You know, you're going to find there was a plan
Speaker 2: for even Medicare to pay for.
Speaker 1: These well, and that's what I'm wondering, is the healthcare
Speaker 1: industry and the toll that it takes on that. Are
Speaker 1: we going to see fewer visits to the hospital because
Speaker 1: people don't have as many issues when they're not going
Speaker 1: through obesity.
Speaker 3: Sure, that's wonderful.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we can unburden the healthcare system with
Speaker 1: the use of GLP ones, and they're safe.
Speaker 2: Hell yes, and move that target away from like Okay,
Speaker 2: you're forty and you're carrying fifty or eighty extra pounds.
Speaker 2: Move the target back to like, Okay, you're ten and
Speaker 2: you're making or your parents probably are making poor dietary
Speaker 2: choices for you. So we got to get you on
Speaker 2: the right track, so thirty years down the road, you
Speaker 2: don't put yourself at risk.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's exactly what it is. Maybe they're working hand
Speaker 1: in hand. Processed food companies load you up at ten
Speaker 1: years old, and then they shake hands with the GLP
Speaker 1: one companies and say, Okay, you'll be needed in about
Speaker 1: ten years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you can't catch you to smoke at fifteen,
Speaker 2: we could hook you on the ding dongs in the house.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and then we'll introduce you to our sister GLP
Speaker 1: ones in ten years. Everyone gets money out of this.
Speaker 1: The Kevin da Leone story doesn't go away. This guy,
Speaker 1: Oh what a freaking sleezbag. I mean, the evidence is
Speaker 1: so substantial. The red flags on this guy are flying high,
Speaker 1: and they're all over the city and no one does
Speaker 1: anything about it.
Speaker 2: Why is he still allowed to have a job. Gary
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