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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, our time, we got news that Pope Francis

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<v Speaker 2>died at the age of eighty eight. It would have

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<v Speaker 2>been Monday already in Italy. What we don't know is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how he died. There are some Italian media outlets

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<v Speaker 2>that are suggesting that this was a stroke, would have

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<v Speaker 2>been brought on by complications from the really difficult health

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<v Speaker 2>struggles that he's had.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the last It wouldn't surprise me if they just

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<v Speaker 1>sent him home and we're like, Okay, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make you comfortable kind of a thing. After the recent hospitalization, JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance went from the Ohio State championship trophy to the

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<v Speaker 1>Pope like he's Drake, keep me away from JD. Vance.

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<v Speaker 3>He's moved. He and his wife are now in India.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe her.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck India. Say a prayer for India.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is going to be one of those dark

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's going to be in jdvan is o

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<v Speaker 2>bit that he was.

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<v Speaker 3>There with that he was there right before.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is wild that was a Jdvans bucket

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<v Speaker 1>list personally and politically. Now he had only converted to

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<v Speaker 1>Catholicism in twenty nineteen in his mid thirties, which I

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<v Speaker 1>found was interesting. And a pope that has been vocal

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<v Speaker 1>anti Trump, vocal, very progressive pope. Some call him a communist,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was a very liberal, progressive pope. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting that JD. Vance So wanted an audience with him.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have this kind of a dark cloud over

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<v Speaker 2>for the next couple of weeks as the Pope will

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<v Speaker 2>lie in state while then the conclave comes together, we

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<v Speaker 2>choose a new pope, and it goes on for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple two three weeks. Joining us to talk more about

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<v Speaker 2>some of the reaction to all of this is Libby Dean,

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<v Speaker 2>who is a White House correspondent with News Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Libby, good morning, good morning, Thanks for having me, you bet.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's next, Libby, Well, next is.

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<v Speaker 4>If the President is going to attend Frances's funeral or not.

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<v Speaker 4>And he actually was just asked several times about it

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<v Speaker 4>during the Easter eggle of it that just wrapped up

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<v Speaker 4>here at the White House, and it seems that he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't have the answer himself. He was said that he's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be briefed on it soon and then they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to make a decision. But it seems like there

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't been a decision made. But we know the two

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<v Speaker 4>have a history as well. We're mentioning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would not think it would not surprise me

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<v Speaker 1>if he did not. I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect this

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<v Speaker 1>president to go to the pope's funeral for a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons. I mean, he's not a Catholic and there

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<v Speaker 1>has been some division there, and it's not like it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be odd if he was not in attendance. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think. I mean, do all American presidents go when

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<v Speaker 1>a pope dies.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it's been what over a decade since this

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<v Speaker 4>has happened. I don't remember if Obama had gone. The

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<v Speaker 4>timeline in my head isn't there. But I think it

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<v Speaker 4>would be a little shocking, just because President Trump really

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<v Speaker 4>courted the Catholic community and has tried to show some

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<v Speaker 4>unity on that front, despite their differences and things in

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<v Speaker 4>their views on immigration in the border wall, that was

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest conflict between them and past I would be

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<v Speaker 4>kind of shocked if he didn't go, but who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I also just read, as before the show started here,

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<v Speaker 2>the President Trump ordered all of federal buildings federal properties

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<v Speaker 2>to fly the flag at half staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he just made that announcement actually from the balcony

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<v Speaker 4>at the Easter egg role of it that he has

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<v Speaker 4>now ordered all federal flags and state flags to be

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<v Speaker 4>at half staff. And that is what he referenced when

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<v Speaker 4>he was pressed by reporters on if he was going

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<v Speaker 4>to go to the funeral or not, he said, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, I'm doing what I can right now, which

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<v Speaker 4>is ordering flags at half staff. But now that I

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<v Speaker 4>am thinking about it's any hesitation from him on that front.

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<v Speaker 4>You would think you would just say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go, rather than saying I need to

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<v Speaker 4>be briefed on it, that kind of thing. So maybe

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<v Speaker 4>there is some hesitation there given the twot's history.

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<v Speaker 2>A quick sidelight, if you don't mind, Libby, I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter on acts you posted the story about Christine

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<v Speaker 2>Noem having a bunch of stuff stolen. What's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with that story?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So a DHS official confirmed this News Nation that Christinome

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<v Speaker 4>was eating dinner last night and had a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>stuff stolen from her, and that included three thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>in cash for driver's license keys, passport, DHS access badge,

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<v Speaker 4>and blank checks. Notably, her phones weren't taken. That was

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<v Speaker 4>something that a DHS official was pointing out because of

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<v Speaker 4>course those have sensitive information on them as well as

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<v Speaker 4>she probably has her government phone on her as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But that thousand in cash is what when I first

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<v Speaker 4>saw this story circulating, and now we have a confirmed organization.

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<v Speaker 4>When I saw it circulating, I was like, three thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars in cash is a lot to be carrying around. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>the DHS official explained this as a no having her

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<v Speaker 4>family in town and she wanted to treat them to

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<v Speaker 4>like Easter gifts and activities and dinner and stuff while

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<v Speaker 4>they were in town. So yeah, but that certainly an

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<v Speaker 4>unfortunate event for Christinoam with her DHS badge and all

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<v Speaker 4>of those things taken from her. And I wonder where

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<v Speaker 4>that thief is now, and I don't know how that

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<v Speaker 4>is progressing. When it comes to an investigation, I'll have

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<v Speaker 4>to look into that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it stolen from her home, from her residence, and want.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand it was stolen while she was eating dinner

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<v Speaker 4>in DC somewhere, is what I understand. That's the DHS

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<v Speaker 4>official told NewsNation.

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<v Speaker 3>So all right, great Lebby, thanks for your.

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<v Speaker 4>Time, thanks for having me for good rest your day.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet, Levy Dean there again, News Nation's White House correspondent.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, Benedict died in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>But he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean when he when he died, he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the pope, right right, nobody went. Nobody went Pope John

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<v Speaker 1>Paul the Second's funeral. Everybody went George W. Bush, Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>George H. W. Everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was also, if I'm not mistaken, John Paul

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<v Speaker 2>the Second was like the third longest.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like the most popular. Well maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 1>my my lifetime. He was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very popular. I was just gonna say he

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<v Speaker 2>was the pope. He was the I thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>always the pope.

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<v Speaker 3>I did go up. I just thought he was right.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think he was going to die. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's been hundreds of them. It was very confusing growing

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<v Speaker 1>up Catholic and knowing there was a pope and then

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<v Speaker 1>he dies, like you know, the world comes CROs So

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with Jesus. Jesus now has is not yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't he out for a while?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean out?

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't ascend for like forty days? Right, No, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's oh he did, he did the thing. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't do the ascension right away, but right.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's well, okay, he's like chilling resurrected. Yes, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>out of the tomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, okay, he's out and about walking around talking

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<v Speaker 1>to people right now for forty days? Right, I got

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<v Speaker 1>that right? I think the forty day him in the desert. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how many days are sev Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good amy. I think you're right. I think

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen days is?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's forty days you guys, Oh, it is

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<v Speaker 1>forty guys. I thought that's how long he he wandered

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<v Speaker 1>in the wilder. Parents didn't spend all that money for

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<v Speaker 1>me not to know. It's forty days of Jesus out

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<v Speaker 1>walking around after Easter. All right, all right, coming up next,

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<v Speaker 1>more on the pope. What's next? The conclave is upon us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get a look at the process.

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<v Speaker 2>Low key funeral is is what Francis I would to

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<v Speaker 2>assume he's a he's a progressive super low, doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to spend it, doesn't want the gold plate at anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably he probably wants it in dirt somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's just going for the old oak. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know if it's oak, the old pine box. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not doing the pine inside, the lead inside the He's

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<v Speaker 2>just doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely want a pine box. I could see that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be buried. I don't want to be burned,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want a pine box.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll make a pine box out of Palette Way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want you to bury me in Pioneer Park

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<v Speaker 1>why And I know that they don't people there anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you could do it in the night.

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<v Speaker 3>In the night. I'd like you to respect this with

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<v Speaker 3>Gary and Shannon will continue.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the season of faith. Really, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>have faith in God and Jesus and have faith that

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<v Speaker 1>there was a resurrection and ascension, the whole bit right.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is also the doubting Thomas time. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the time when Jesus proves to Thomas's the disciple. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>because Thomas was like your average Joe and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in this crap.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He had an awful weekend and then was like, they

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<v Speaker 2>said the stone is rolled away, come in and check

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<v Speaker 2>it out, and he was like, I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I don't I don't believe you. Jesus goes,

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<v Speaker 1>he hooks up with the other disciples. They meet in

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<v Speaker 1>a locked room and they're like, oh my god, you're

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<v Speaker 1>back right. Thomas wasn't there. He's like, I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>it until I see it, until I can touch the

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<v Speaker 1>wounds in Jesus's hands. I'm not going to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>until I can touch his side. Y'all are crazy. So

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus goes to Thomas. He's like, here, I am bro

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<v Speaker 1>burh and that is how uh and that is how

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<v Speaker 1>we uh we make sense of all the faith and

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<v Speaker 1>the faith that you need to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that translated from the original Aramaic? By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>here I am bro I paraphrased.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I took liberties with the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Vatican not announced the immediate cause of Pope Francis's death,

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be interesting to see what they do

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<v Speaker 1>picking the new pope. It's not just about religion, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about politics. Unfortunately, well, a lot of religion is politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic Church specifically I don't know about the other ones,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of politics are going on the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 1>They say the next pope could come from Africa, Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>Sri Lanka, possibly even America, but that whoever is elected

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<v Speaker 1>center of things. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of funny. I actually heard an interesting point

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<v Speaker 2>early on in Pope Francis' tenure, if that's what you

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<v Speaker 2>call it, papacy where.

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<v Speaker 3>He was asked.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on an airplane and he was asked a

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<v Speaker 3>What's your on that?

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<v Speaker 2>And the Pope said, if someone is gay and searches

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<v Speaker 2>for the Lord and has good will, who am I

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<v Speaker 2>to judge? Is what the Pope said, perfect, which is

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<v Speaker 2>I mean very biblical. Yeah, who is he to judge?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Even if he's the pope, he's not the one who

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<v Speaker 2>judges ultimately. So this was this bishop's response to that

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<v Speaker 2>question of was this groundbreaking when he said it ten

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<v Speaker 6>I would think it was very significant. However, people make

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<v Speaker 6>a great deal out of it. You have to understand

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<v Speaker 6>the context in which that statement was made. He was

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<v Speaker 6>and sometimes that disturbed people. People gave many, many different

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<v Speaker 6>interpretations to that statement. Our Holy Father loved everyone, and

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<v Speaker 1>So the church is no different when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>just play your game, sing your songs. And I say

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<v Speaker 1>that in the way of Most people are much more

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with athletes doing what athletes do. Play your gay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear about your opinions. Same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with Hollywood and with singers and the like. Do what

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<v Speaker 1>for your mastery. In X, Y and Z, the church

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<v Speaker 1>is the same way. They're going to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>a pope who's more turned inward. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who is going to be focused on the church

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<v Speaker 1>and not somebody who's going to provide off the cuff

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<v Speaker 1>remarks that serve as a distraction. In my opinion, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what they're going to do. The pendulum is

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<v Speaker 2>The whole list of the I think they've referred to

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<v Speaker 2>it as the Papa Billy, the potential popes that are

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<v Speaker 2>out there, these cardinals that have been.

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<v Speaker 1>The fun word what papability like possibility, but propability, propability.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you said, they're from all over the place. Stockholm,

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<v Speaker 2>Me and mar a couple from France, one of them

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<v Speaker 2>from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Manila, Philippines, Vatican City.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the logistics are this within twenty days a conclave. Remarkable,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it that this is the time when Jesus is

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<v Speaker 3>It's just very odd, it's not our timing.

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<v Speaker 1>Within twenty days of the pope's death, a conclave of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty cardinals out of the one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>Who's left out?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, people older than eighty, right, if you're over then

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<v Speaker 1>eighty you do not get a vote. So that's one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty out of the one hundred and thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>They go together to the Vatican. Who gets that catering contract?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think they do. I think they have

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<v Speaker 1>in house. They do. They have their own kitchen at

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<v Speaker 1>the Vatican.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if they want to order out, what if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to door dash those meetings? Guarantee U Chef

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<v Speaker 1>Bruno would be on that list. Oh good call. Four

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<v Speaker 1>daily ballots are held until a successor is picked as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to a successor.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, someone who's bringing someone?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, someone has ourt time with the distinction there and

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<v Speaker 1>that person is missing.

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<v Speaker 2>And while they're doing the voting, that's where the smoke

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<v Speaker 2>comes in. He Yeah, after thirty ballots.

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<v Speaker 1>The the top two candidates will be the only ones allowed,

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<v Speaker 1>and whoever gets a two thirds majority will become the

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<v Speaker 1>next pope. There's a lot of jockeying that goes on,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see. You mentioned some of the top candidates

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<v Speaker 1>which we went down the list. By the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>lat when he was in the hospital in grave condition.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe he was in grave condition. Those were there.

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<v Speaker 1>There are words otherwise we wouldn't have gone through. The

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<v Speaker 1>six men that are talked about. There's a cardinal out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Philippines, one out of Ukraine's. They're everywhere everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I have got a favorite. I got to remember who

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite is.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna put odds on it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is somebody is. I don't know enough. This is going

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<v Speaker 1>to shock you. I don't know enough about the Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>Church to set the odds on the next pope.

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<v Speaker 2>Your suggestion, though, about an African pope or a progressive pope.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you make a good point. They're done with that.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>This pendulum is going to swing back much more to

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<v Speaker 2>the center of popes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll throw in this wrench. One of the names being

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<v Speaker 1>thrown out there is Cardinal Pietro Peroline seventy. He's Italian,

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<v Speaker 1>he is conservative, but he's also back to the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between the Church and China. Interesting, big proponent of that,

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<v Speaker 2>In that realm, we will I mean, there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of new stuff coming out of the Vatican, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>because the event itself has now taken place, but there

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<v Speaker 2>are preparations that are being made within four to six

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<v Speaker 3>So if we hear from the Vatican, we'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>A full blown melt down at the Pentagon.

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<v Speaker 2>And the arrogance and the arrogance of certainty, perhaps is

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<v Speaker 1>That's what bothers me in a lot of areas, the

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have access to a printer that one right there?

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<v Speaker 4>You do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you know I'm going to send you something.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could print it out, I'd appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll find a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>International story, of course, is that Pope Francis has died

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<v Speaker 2>at the age of eighty eight. The Vatican made the

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<v Speaker 2>announcement this morning. It's technically ten to thirty last night

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<v Speaker 2>our time, but they wrote in a statement the Bishop

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<v Speaker 2>of Rome Francis had returned to the home of the Father.

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<v Speaker 2>His entire life was dedicated to the service of the

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<v Speaker 2>after I met with Vice President JD.

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<v Speaker 3>Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>They had an awkward exchange at the Vatican on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Francis was not happy about the Trump administration's treatment of migrants,

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<v Speaker 2>and it came just a day after Vance. It looked

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<v Speaker 2>like the big headline of the weekend was it looked

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<v Speaker 2>like Vance was going to be snubbed by the Pope

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact was forced to meet with a Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>of State there at the Vatican. But the Pope did

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<v Speaker 2>meet the Vice President just yesterday. Jad Vance and his

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you've seen the those are listen. You

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<v Speaker 2>may not like JD.

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<v Speaker 3>Vance. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>The kit pictures of his kids getting off of helicopters

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<v Speaker 2>and Air Force two are very endearing because they're plopping

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<v Speaker 1>Young kid, very sweet, very sweet young family. Absolutely did

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<v Speaker 1>you hear about the new celebrity romance that became Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>official over the weekend? I know you stay on top

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<v Speaker 1>of all of the celebrity romance stories. You love love,

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<v Speaker 1>You just love love, I believe are your words. I

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Hurley and Billy Ray Cyrus. Yes, yes, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>I knew it more because of him than her.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I follow him pretty pretty religiously on on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>And stuff with candles and jams, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You said it without any irony. You were presenting it

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<v Speaker 1>still blows me away. I thought about it over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about remember that funny time when Gary talked

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<v Speaker 1>a couple minutes. Remember that funny time. Well, it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that long, but you over that. It wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of expecting you to stop it down pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>and you never have. I just let you finish that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I don't know what you're going through

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<v Speaker 3>She had ducks on her property yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't so I don't care, but you do, and

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<v Speaker 2>There are new reports that Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth

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<v Speaker 2>in another another private signal group chat that include such

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<v Speaker 1>Now his attorney and brother I think work at the

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they do. I don't know why his attorney would,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think his brother definitely works in the Defense Department.

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<v Speaker 1>That's neither here nor there. The wife certainly doesn't. They

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<v Speaker 1>both have jobs at the Pentagon yet. Okay, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>classified information, but the optics are awful. There's a former

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<v Speaker 1>top Pentagon spokesman who resigned last week and he says

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<v Speaker 1>that it is a full blown meltdown at the capital

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<v Speaker 1>at the Pentagon, that his leadership, Pete haig Seth's leadership

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<v Speaker 1>at the Department of the Defense has been chaotic.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that guy who has resigned, there are other versions

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<v Speaker 2>of it where the Pentagon officials told him you're out,

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<v Speaker 2>so you better resign before it gets out that you're fired.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of four people, I think, and three of

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<v Speaker 2>them are within Pete hag Seth's inner circle.

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<v Speaker 1>There you're in family court at this point. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe one side or the other. You know, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>says it's been a month of chaos at the Pentagon

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<v Speaker 1>following the leaks of the operational plans to massive firings.

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<v Speaker 1>The dysfunction now a major distraction for the president. But

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, this was a guy being forced out

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<v Speaker 1>so take it with a grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what Pete haig Seth said, What a.

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<v Speaker 1>Big surprise that a bunch of a few leaders get fired.

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<v Speaker 6>And suddenly a bunch of hit pieces come out.

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<v Speaker 5>From the same media that pedaled the Russia hopes won't

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<v Speaker 5>get back to Pulitzers.

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<v Speaker 3>They got Pultzers for a bunch of lies.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he goes on and on and on. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>just say yeah, I'm not doing that again. See had

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of mariachis that was this morning at the

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<v Speaker 2>White House Eastern egg roll. Okay, just come out and say, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to do that anymore. I first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't classified information. These people may not have necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>needed to know the information that I put out there, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to do that again.

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<v Speaker 1>All you have to say is unclassified, and I deleted

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<v Speaker 1>the app and be tune with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead you got to keep going, well that guy

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<v Speaker 2>I did that. Yeah, they said the thing, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of the way that the administration handles things.

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<v Speaker 1>Though there's a lot of finger pointing. I'm speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>finger pointing. The president is pointing a finger at Jerome Powell,

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<v Speaker 1>and Wall Street is responding, and it's really bad. He

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<v Speaker 1>went on social media. Truth social the president did to

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<v Speaker 1>call Jerome Powell a complete loser. And now the Dow's

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<v Speaker 1>down of like a thousand points.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said, the economy could be slowing unless mister

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<v Speaker 2>too late, he calls him mister too late, a major loser,

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<v Speaker 2>lowers interest rates.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they do not like that, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Being whoever they are that buy the stocks and the bonds,

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<v Speaker 2>and the dows down nine hundred and eighty three points,

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<v Speaker 2>it's about two and a half percent. S and P

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred Nasdak are in that same boat, down about

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half two point eight percent. So and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody can get in this guy's ear and just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>cool it on the whole fed chair thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to force them out, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You're only gonna You're only gonna royal the mar markets

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<v Speaker 2>even more.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if you didn't fall into the latest Netflix trap

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<v Speaker 1>for females, you are a stronger woman than I for females,

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<v Speaker 1>because I fell into the Ransom Canyon trap. Yesterday and man,

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<v Speaker 1>did I felt what? Yeah? I fell and it's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it's awful, every single moment of the

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<v Speaker 1>four episodes you plowed through in one sitting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know. My wife fell down that well too,

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<v Speaker 3>of course she did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what we do. It feels good, though, there feels

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<v Speaker 1>the lighting. It's the lighting, it's the set in where

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<v Speaker 1>I think this one's filmed in New Mexico. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's all of those things. It makes it feel. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very country. You're out on a farm, so you're feeling good.

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<v Speaker 3>Familiar faces, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Old familiar faces in Lila Garret and Josh Dumal, who

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<v Speaker 1>she's my age, but she looks twenty two, so she

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<v Speaker 1>looks wildly too young for Josh.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Duamal, who's probably mid forty fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Two, he's fifty meat, he's me uh huh, but all

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<v Speaker 1>he looks a lot older than you do.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Not he does in this show, in my opinion, because.

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<v Speaker 3>They gray him up, don't they.

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<v Speaker 1>They do? But I love the gray. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>he's I don't know if I love the gray hair

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<v Speaker 1>on him. Actually, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>He's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's wonderful. I don't need to be a hater.

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<v Speaker 2>Later in the show, we're going to get some more

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<v Speaker 2>details about what goes on now at the Vatican after

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<v Speaker 2>the death of Pope Francis yesterday at the age sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, at the age of eighty eight. Bells have

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<v Speaker 2>told around the world to announce the death. President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>just a short time before the show started, announced that

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<v Speaker 2>he had signed the executive order that declares that all

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<v Speaker 2>federal and state flags around the United States and American

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<v Speaker 2>properties around the world will fly it has to in

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<v Speaker 2>honor of the Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>Stalks down sharply on Wall Street as Trump continues to

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<v Speaker 1>go after Fed Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. The daw was

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<v Speaker 1>down one thousand, what's it more than a four than

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand now? Nasdaq down five six and the S

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<v Speaker 1>and P five hundred down about one hundred and fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>calling him, as we mentioned, a major loser on his

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<v Speaker 1>social media platform today. Also, tariff concerns continue to bubble

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<v Speaker 1>up above the surface.

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<v Speaker 3>Shall we say well?

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<v Speaker 2>Americans spent an estimated seventy one point seven billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on GLP ones including ozempic and wagovi in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>That's two years ago. That's before everybody started talking about them.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine what that number is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty twenty five, but that would be a five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent increase from their spending on those drugs from

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen for five years before that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're working. Now, what kind of I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>be a spoil sport go on, but what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stress are you putting your body through?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it more than you're doing with the way that

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<v Speaker 1>you used to eat? Is it more stress we're putting

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<v Speaker 1>on our bodies by stressing out about weight. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. All I know is how long have

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<v Speaker 1>these been circulating?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've been around for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Make no mistake about it. If this was available and

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<v Speaker 1>I had an issue in this department, I would one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent probably do the thing. But I do still

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<v Speaker 1>have a concern about could you be on it forever?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, does it change your lifestyle enough to where

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<v Speaker 1>you can stop taking this and continue on with your

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<v Speaker 1>healthy lifestyle and still have the same results.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's enough. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>there's enough evidence to say yes or no. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just they've been around for a long time. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they've been around for the length

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<v Speaker 2>of time that we would need to make decisions like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the money, I mean, you knew the money was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be big, but this is bigger than I

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<v Speaker 1>even thought.

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<v Speaker 2>There are different kinds in this kind of in this space,

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<v Speaker 2>there are different kinds. You've got the semiglutides, which would

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<v Speaker 2>be ozembic, rabelsis and Wagovi. You've got Munjaro, which is tirzeppetide. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but those two groups make up about seventy one percent

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<v Speaker 2>of all GLP one spending. There's some other brands that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of get mixed in there. Then there are organizations

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<v Speaker 2>that will mix brands together and sell those to you

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm fascinated by is the behind the scenes story

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<v Speaker 1>of big pharma having a major player role in Washington

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<v Speaker 1>and processed foods having a major player role in Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have friends that do this, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that they are not snacking. They're not doing the processed

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<v Speaker 1>food snacking not nearly as much. And holy hell, the

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes war must be something to behold. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch that movie when it comes out of the processed

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<v Speaker 1>foods people versus big pharma. I mean, because it's basically

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<v Speaker 1>the tobacco industry versus big pharma.

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<v Speaker 2>I And how do we determine where where do we

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<v Speaker 2>wait five years, ten years to see how this pans out?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it even going to take that long? I

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<v Speaker 2>think people are be a giant reckoning between these two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, either

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<v Speaker 1>some long term side effects rear their ugly head, or

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<v Speaker 1>they become punitively expensive. I don't know who wins. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know whoever has the power. From time to time, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fig is with people buying more and then producing more

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<v Speaker 2>and more of them. I think the price goes down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're going to find there was a plan

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<v Speaker 2>for even Medicare to pay for.

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<v Speaker 1>These well, and that's what I'm wondering, is the healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>industry and the toll that it takes on that. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to see fewer visits to the hospital because

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<v Speaker 1>people don't have as many issues when they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>through obesity.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, that's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we can unburden the healthcare system with

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<v Speaker 1>the use of GLP ones, and they're safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yes, and move that target away from like Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're forty and you're carrying fifty or eighty extra pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Move the target back to like, Okay, you're ten and

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<v Speaker 2>you're making or your parents probably are making poor dietary

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<v Speaker 2>choices for you. So we got to get you on

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<v Speaker 2>the right track, so thirty years down the road, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't put yourself at risk.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's exactly what it is. Maybe they're working hand

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<v Speaker 1>in hand. Processed food companies load you up at ten

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and then they shake hands with the GLP

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<v Speaker 1>one companies and say, Okay, you'll be needed in about

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<v Speaker 1>ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, if you can't catch you to smoke at fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>we could hook you on the ding dongs in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and then we'll introduce you to our sister GLP

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<v Speaker 1>ones in ten years. Everyone gets money out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kevin da Leone story doesn't go away. This guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what a freaking sleezbag. I mean, the evidence is

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<v Speaker 1>so substantial. The red flags on this guy are flying high,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all over the city and no one does

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is he still allowed to have a job. Gary

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<v Speaker 2>and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been listening

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<v Speaker 2>to The Gary and Shannon Show. You can always hear

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<v Speaker 2>us live on KFI AM six forty nine am to

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<v Speaker 2>one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand

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<v Speaker 2>on the iHeartRadio ap
