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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty k I AM six forty Bill Handle.

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<v Speaker 2>Here. It is a Monday morning, November eighteenth. Next week

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<v Speaker 2>being Thanksgiving, which is always great, fun, fun holiday, eat

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<v Speaker 2>myself silly and then get sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I eat so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to be covering the of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump picks and what's going on, because that's I love

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. It's so much in my wheelhouse that will

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<v Speaker 2>be happening over the next few days, few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You probably have heard and I have heard and talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this for years and years, and that is recognizing

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that California really is two states.

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<v Speaker 1>We have different states.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously in the United States, you have the South being

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<v Speaker 2>very different than what California is being very different, what

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<v Speaker 2>the seaboard states are about. We're almost different countries, but

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<v Speaker 2>we are separate states because we are the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how united we are, but we certainly

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<v Speaker 1>are a fifty state union.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was talk and has been for decades saying,

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<v Speaker 2>let's recognize the fact that we in southern California are

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<v Speaker 2>very different than northern California.

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<v Speaker 1>That's red we're blue.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a breakup movement that actually is growing across states, Illinois, California,

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<v Speaker 2>other states, and I'm going to talk about Illinois. This

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<v Speaker 2>is out of the Wall Street Journal that looked at

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<v Speaker 2>this where you have these large swaths of red rural

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<v Speaker 2>counties dominated by just a few blue cities, and residents

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<v Speaker 2>in those red parts of the state are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>split it apart.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a group called New Illinois State.

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<v Speaker 2>New Illinois State declared itself independent from Illinois last weekend

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<v Speaker 2>and passed the first draft of a new constitution and

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<v Speaker 2>the introduction of the constitution as it was introduced, it

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<v Speaker 2>was called leave Illinois without moving. That was the marketing message.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy three of voters in predominantly rural Iroquois County on

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<v Speaker 2>election date back the idea of forming a new state

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<v Speaker 2>with every Illinois county except Cook County, which is forty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the entire population of the state. But Cook

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<v Speaker 2>County is blue and the rest of the state is not.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where Chicago is now. This resolution, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>is non binding. It takes a lot more than just

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<v Speaker 2>have a certain number of voter say yeah, let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a different state. But this non binding resolution actually passed

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<v Speaker 2>in six counties, bringing the total to thirty three of

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<v Speaker 2>the one hundred and two Illinois counties. A third of

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<v Speaker 2>the counties want out. That's a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 2>want out, and this urban rural divide. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that Donald Trump brilliantly did play this up

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<v Speaker 2>on the campaign trail, running against the large Democratic run

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<v Speaker 2>metropolists and making big electoral games. And later on I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about Generation Z what happened and how

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<v Speaker 2>so many zeers voted for Trump. Interesting Paul Preston, the

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<v Speaker 2>founder of the new California State. He says, I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>flipping excited because he wants all the counties outside of

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<v Speaker 2>LA outside of the Bay Area, outside of Sacramento independent

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<v Speaker 2>new state, which, of course naming him as governor. Go

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<v Speaker 2>figure now attempts to redraw the map of US. Has

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<v Speaker 2>happened a whole lot before. And then the issue of

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<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rico in the District of Columbia. Some people seeking

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<v Speaker 2>to become the fifty first date some states floating in

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of becoming independent countries. Now, how does that work? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, new states, you can actually form new states.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can form new countries, but a

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<v Speaker 2>state can form a group people. Can't actually form a

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<v Speaker 2>new state. It's happened before. It requires the consent of

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<v Speaker 2>the existing legislators and not very likely, certainly not in

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<v Speaker 2>most blue states because they're blue, and you need the

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<v Speaker 2>existing legislature. You need the okay of Congress. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>according to the US Constitution. Now, it has happened before.

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky became a state onto itself, and that was the

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<v Speaker 2>founding of Maine, by the way, was once part of Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that Maine was once part of Massachusetts. I didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>and it split off and became Maine. West Virginia wanted

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<v Speaker 2>statehood during the Civil War, and Congress said, okay, West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 2>you can have your own state without even Virginia's legislature

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<v Speaker 2>because West Virginia or Virginia had voted to secede or

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<v Speaker 2>that part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia said fine, you can be West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>So preston this guy who is trying to split across

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<v Speaker 2>split up California and become the new governor of Northern California,

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<v Speaker 2>said he plans to petition Congress for statehood based on

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<v Speaker 2>the argument and now we go into crazy making.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>While there's probably a legitimate argument for saying we are

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<v Speaker 2>separate states completely, and we are even sort of de

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<v Speaker 2>facto separate countries. I mean, you go to southern California,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to northern California.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you think you're on another planet.

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<v Speaker 2>His argument, this is Preston, is to petition Congress for

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<v Speaker 2>statehood based on the argument that California's government now is

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<v Speaker 2>a one party communist state.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, whoa, Oh, we've now gone into crazy land. And technically.

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<v Speaker 2>Northern California has already seceded from the Union.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it hasn't. It hasn't at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, while there's some reason for you to

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<v Speaker 2>say what you do, it's not gonna happen. But at

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<v Speaker 2>least there's an argument. You've now gone off into crazy land.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Okay, you're helping them.

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<v Speaker 2>You are helping the movement a lot, aren't you. Now

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<v Speaker 2>looking back on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Election and thinking, okay, what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>As I've said earlier, that the pundits really missed it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that as crazy as Trump seemed to be with

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<v Speaker 2>his insanity, he read it perfectly, even against his very advisors.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a story out of the Atlantic about

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z gen Z, woke snowflakes, slacktivism, climate warriors, gun

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<v Speaker 2>control activists, right, all the negative stuff for or positive stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>depending which side of the political spectrum you ran.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what happened last week.

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<v Speaker 2>How is it the gen Z Many members of the

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z generation moved over to Trump And these are

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<v Speaker 2>voters eighteen to twenty seven. Exit polls and analysis county

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<v Speaker 2>by county show that young voters have shifted right since

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty and that was sort of missed. Well, certainly

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<v Speaker 2>we knew about young men, young white men who came,

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<v Speaker 2>not came, not only came out in favor of Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>but were his army. Basically, among evangelists, this was the

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<v Speaker 2>army of God, and among whites, white men, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the man who is going to change America for the better,

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<v Speaker 2>much more so than a presidential run. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is on a level above this almost deification.

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<v Speaker 1>So Democrats lost ground with young women.

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<v Speaker 2>And you would think that young women, especially based on

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<v Speaker 2>reproductive rights. That's why hair supporters were cautiously optimistic. Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there were plenty. I mean there are plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of people obviously who are in favor of reproductive rights,

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<v Speaker 2>I being one of them, where it's a very big

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<v Speaker 2>deal for me. You know what, some gen Zers have

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<v Speaker 2>just moved away from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Gen Zers do care about the environment, firearm safety, diversity, inclusivity.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at a twenty twenty three pole.

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<v Speaker 2>Compared with baby boomers and exers, gen z is more

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>Justice reform, racial equity.

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<v Speaker 2>Gen Zers are likely to say the government should do

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<v Speaker 2>more to solve problems rather than leaving things to business

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<v Speaker 2>and individuals, which is basically what gen zer is are about.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a portion that.

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<v Speaker 2>Have moved away from that, and they're frightened and what

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<v Speaker 2>the world's going to be like and prices are out

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<v Speaker 2>or we're out of control and the economy and immigration

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<v Speaker 2>and are looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>What Donald Trump did.

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<v Speaker 2>Is paint the world as a very destructive, frightening place,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was blot That message was bought. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how many people have actually lost their jobs to

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<v Speaker 2>illegal immigration, to illegal migrants. Most jobs that migrants do

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<v Speaker 2>take are not taken by white people. You just won't

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're unemployed, are you going to go out

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<v Speaker 2>and pick strawberries.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this fear inflation out of control, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Inflation is under control. But it doesn't matter because what

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<v Speaker 2>is the message. The message is it has become out

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<v Speaker 2>of control, which it did, and prices did explode during

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden years, and so that extra polace. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what it's gonna be very interesting is President elect Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>view and his move to raise the tariffs, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get whatever he wants. I'll tell you right now,

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<v Speaker 2>this president is going to basically get what he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Tariffs are going to go sky high, and that may

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<v Speaker 2>kick in inflation. We don't know yet, but most economists

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<v Speaker 2>say that we'll start jacking up prices like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it does, what happens, well, I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of those who believe Donald Trump to such an extent.

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<v Speaker 2>He will tell you that the price of a toy,

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<v Speaker 2>which used to be five ninety nine, which is now

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<v Speaker 2>eight ninety nine, is still five ninety nine, even though

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<v Speaker 2>you're paying eight ninety nine. I believe that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 2>I do because he said, you don't have a job.

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<v Speaker 2>The migrants have taken your job, and you have thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of people roaring yes they have, and of course then

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<v Speaker 2>they go to work on Monday morning. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>anything like it, and I can see it just works.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a populist.

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<v Speaker 2>He was able to plug into this fear we have

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<v Speaker 2>and crime, for example, it's out of control. It's actually

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<v Speaker 2>down nationally in Los Angeles, it is down across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>It is down if you look at it statistically, and

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<v Speaker 2>how else are you going to look at it? If

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Sandy Hook, their crime is one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent and half the school of those poor kids were killed,

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<v Speaker 2>their crime is one hundred percent. If you look at

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<v Speaker 2>crime across the country, it is down. Yet when told

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<v Speaker 2>crime is up, crime is up, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people bought into that. I have no problem or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have an issue in terms of understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>How a lot of people believe that because the world

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<v Speaker 2>it can be and is a frightening place.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the issue is what are we going to do

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<v Speaker 1>about it? And one of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that I think is a legitimate is and I

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<v Speaker 2>heard this over the weekend, and that is I look

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<v Speaker 2>at these crazy picks, for example, that President elect Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has made. You know, between Pete Hegseth and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Kennedy Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard one of the senators who basically said, whatever Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever Trump wants, we're going to go for it. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't care who he nominates. Our job is to put

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<v Speaker 2>that person in the cabinet position. But what he did

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<v Speaker 2>say was kind of interesting, which actually resonated we have.

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<v Speaker 1>To shake things.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to go in and look at government with

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<v Speaker 2>a fresh approach. Fdr did it and he's considered a

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<v Speaker 2>total hero. Ronald Reagan did it, and now we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>look at Donald Trump. Is he gonna shake things up? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it need shaken up?

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<v Speaker 2>of or the Attorney General, I think is a little tough.

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<v Speaker 2>As he has said, basically his first job is to

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<v Speaker 2>the Attorney General's office need shaking up? Maybe to that extent,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. Okay, nuclear power, the nukes, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>for peaceful purposes. And then up and running comes World

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<v Speaker 2>War Two. Einstein writes a letter to FDR saying that

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<v Speaker 2>just incredible magnitude. And so the Manhattan Project starts. And

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<v Speaker 2>balls to the wall to also develop a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>They knew what a nuclear weapon could do. And so

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<v Speaker 1>Put into place. Just a little bit of handle history.

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<v Speaker 2>So now in the fifties, now comes the peaceful use

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<v Speaker 2>of the atom, the splitting of the atom, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking power plants. And in the fifties, boy, this was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the future of the world. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you think of a nuclear power plant, a single nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>power plant can power hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of homes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look at a footprint of a nuclear plant

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<v Speaker 2>and what it can do in terms of its power.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was the future, and then one that ended

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<v Speaker 2>up happening. Well, you had a couple of instances like

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<v Speaker 2>Three Mile Island, which killed all the advances in nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>energy or at least power plant design and construction.

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<v Speaker 1>Chernobyl, which of course was the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Nuclear accident in the history of the world, and still

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<v Speaker 2>within I don't know, hundreds of miles around the Chernobyl

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<v Speaker 2>power plant and it's still a dead zone. No one

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<v Speaker 2>can live there. You can go visit, but for a

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know that they are tourists there. You can

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<v Speaker 2>take tours into Chernobyl, into that area. They're not particularly legal,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are tour guides. They go through the fence

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<v Speaker 2>and you walk around. Everybody has a Geiger counter and

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<v Speaker 2>you can only stay half an hour, an hour whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on how close you are to the power plant.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was I mean, that shut down a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of interest in power plants. And then Fukushima, which was

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<v Speaker 2>amongst the most modern safe nuclear reactors in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't quite accepting they expecting the tsunami that went

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<v Speaker 2>up to ninety feet with those waves and overran everything,

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<v Speaker 2>zone area up there too. So, man, we were on

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<v Speaker 2>our way, by the way, prior to those those massive

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<v Speaker 2>meltdowns and explosions, we were on our way to creating

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<v Speaker 2>more and more nuclear power plants. We still have I

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<v Speaker 2>think about sixteen percent of the energy of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>if memory serves that's correct, still is derived from nuclear energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a fun fact. Do you know that in France

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five percent of their energy is derived from nuclear power.

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<v Speaker 2>France uses nuclear power more than any other country in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. That's why their baguettes glow green in the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always find baguettes in France even when the

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<v Speaker 1>You got that green neon.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, today's support for nuclear powers is the highest and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been in a decade for.

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<v Speaker 1>One very simple reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, we need energy, more of it because for example, AI.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs massive amounts of energy.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have various nuclear power plants that are ending

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<v Speaker 2>their lifespan. So a couple of groups that are really

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<v Speaker 2>pro nuke, and it's really interesting. Young people have become

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<v Speaker 2>pro nuclear energy because they didn't live through Chernobyl and

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<v Speaker 2>three Mile Island. I mean, if you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>dates of Chernobyl and three Mile Island, I mean we're

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<v Speaker 2>going back to what nineteen seventy six or nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>six was Chernobyl, Three Mile Island was nineteen seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Who the hell remembers that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, older people remember that, So older folks are are

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<v Speaker 2>still scared.

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<v Speaker 1>Younger people don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, we're way past that or not we they you

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<v Speaker 2>are way past that. So the nuclear industry is going up.

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<v Speaker 2>They're great paying jobs. The technology is exciting as hell.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually much safer. For example, one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>the designs of new nuclear plants.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of pressurized water to cool.

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<v Speaker 2>The to cool down the or to make the steam,

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<v Speaker 2>they're using molten sand.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that works, but it's far, far safer.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other group of people that have become pro nuke,

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<v Speaker 2>and this one is interesting, are a good portion of

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<v Speaker 2>the environmentalists. Environmentalists used to be one hundred percent against

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear power.

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<v Speaker 1>Why well, because how danger dangerous it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have a meltdown and you've got some

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<v Speaker 2>big problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Three Mile Island, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have an explosion. Man, do you have problems Chernobyl. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is a Chernobyl was old style nuclear energy devised,

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<v Speaker 2>built and engineered by the Russians. If you look at Chernobyl,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no containment building at Chernobyl. The old Russian

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<v Speaker 2>nuke plants do not have containment buildings. If you look

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<v Speaker 2>at a US or a French nuclear reactor, it's containment buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, Diablou down on the coast, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like two giant breasts that or a pair of

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<v Speaker 2>breasts along the coast. Those structures are I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>yards thick of concrete.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're looking at a containment building.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what you have is here the technology not

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<v Speaker 2>only is it safer with its containment buildings, but the

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<v Speaker 2>new technology is infinitely safer, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So whire environmentalists sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are a good portion of environmentalists because nuclear power?

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<v Speaker 2>Nuclear power plants don't emit. There's no fossil fuels, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no carbon dioxide, there's no methane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the leanest kind of power.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, granted you've got spent nuclear fuel, what the hell

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<v Speaker 2>do you do with that?

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<v Speaker 1>That lasts forever?

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<v Speaker 2>So what they do is put them in these barrels

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<v Speaker 2>or in case them in concrete and put them deep

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<v Speaker 2>underground or at the bottom of the ocean where they're leaking.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the fish now have four eyes and fifteen tails.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's besides the point.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thinking is that technology will be there one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred two hundred years from now that we'll deal with

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<v Speaker 2>and you can get rid of the spent fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuclear fission instead of nuclear fusion.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to explain what the difference is

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't understand it, but it's the technology that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be able to be used to make

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<v Speaker 2>these nuclear reactors completely safe. So you've got a generation

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<v Speaker 2>now that is excited about nuclear your energy. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>much safer nuclear power plants, and you've got different ways,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, small nuclear power plants that can power a neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Even there's technology out there or on the books a

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear a tiny little nuclear power plant that can power

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<v Speaker 2>your home. Little tiny guys. Those are on the books,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're going to see and I'm a big fan

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<v Speaker 2>of nuclear power, always have been small footprint, huge amounts

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<v Speaker 2>of energy. Technology will be there in the future, and

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in the technology, scientific technology, technology that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to make them smaller, safer, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I am just a huge fan. Are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to go there? Yeah? Probably because the fear of.

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<v Speaker 2>The emissions, fossil fuel emissions is real, climate change is real.

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<v Speaker 2>We know where that comes from and the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>power that's needed to the point where, for example, Microsoft

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<v Speaker 2>that's just cut a deal with three Mile Island to

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<v Speaker 2>revamp its existing shut down tower or one of the plants.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are usually several buildings that are power plants. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the one that did not melt down was shut down

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going to bring it back up to speed.

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<v Speaker 1>No one would have thought that was even possible. Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>is cutting deals.

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<v Speaker 2>Microsoft, You've got major maje and AI sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Up power like no one can believe.

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