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Speaker 2: All right, let's get the five o'clock hours started here
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Been a fun show so far.
Speaker 2: Not sure what we've accomplished, but if you've been with us,
Speaker 2: thank you, and if you're joining us now welcome. We'll
Speaker 2: finish stronger, at least attempt to. We had some big
Speaker 2: news that broke right before the show today that I
Speaker 2: don't know if it everybody's everybody's level of what is
Speaker 2: considered big news, how big certain news is, It's all
Speaker 2: up to your own opinion. But when it comes to
Speaker 2: college sports being such a free for all in recent
Speaker 2: years and really just being a mess, probably more so
Speaker 2: than a lot of us even realize. I mean a
Speaker 2: lot of people around here follow it so closely that
Speaker 2: you do realize it. However, we're gonna watch it no
Speaker 2: matter what, because if you're a big time Louisville fan
Speaker 2: or a big time Kentucky fan, I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Really sure what college sports could do or.
Speaker 2: What environment could be going on to where you would
Speaker 2: be completely out. I mean, I don't even know if
Speaker 2: you could quit it if you tried right. So, if
Speaker 2: you are just tunnel vision only keeping up with what's
Speaker 2: going on with your team, I'd say you're not You're not.
Speaker 3: Alone.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's many people that do it that way.
Speaker 2: But overall, when it comes to the national conversation around
Speaker 2: in college sports, it's a mess, an absolute mess, because
Speaker 2: of NIL and the transfer portal. And it's not because
Speaker 2: those two things exist, it's because there's really no regulation.
Speaker 2: It's out of control. As some say, it's the wild,
Speaker 2: wild West. How many times have you heard that over
Speaker 2: the years, And it's for good reason, because it's true.
Speaker 2: And I think the NCAA they're ultimately at fault for
Speaker 2: never ever wanting to budge from their archaic amateurism model
Speaker 2: that we now know was not sustainable and it should
Speaker 2: have been revisited long ago, but they wouldn't budge, so
Speaker 2: it blew up in their face, where now they're trying
Speaker 2: to get some guardrails out there, trying to have things regulated.
Speaker 2: But these schools realize now that the nc DOUBLEA doesn't
Speaker 2: really have a right legally to tell you what you
Speaker 2: can and can't do in certain aspects, So you just
Speaker 2: hire a lawyer, or maybe you've got your maybe.
Speaker 3: You're not hiring, or maybe you already have one.
Speaker 2: I mean, you probably have counsel, right, So I think
Speaker 2: what they've realized is this nc DOUBLEA. I guess the
Speaker 2: House versus NCAA settlement that's been ongoing for a while.
Speaker 2: It just seems as if they're trying to finalize some things.
Speaker 2: It's an endless battle with the legal system with courts.
Speaker 2: So the big news is that the nc DOUBLEA president
Speaker 2: Charlie Baker, who recently in the last couple of years
Speaker 2: whenever it was to go from Mark Emritt, he has
Speaker 2: confirmed that the Power Conferences and not the nc DOUBLEA,
Speaker 2: will be in charge of enforcing rules created by this
Speaker 2: House versus n CUABA settlement over athlete compensation. So the
Speaker 2: NCUBA has said, you guys, figure it out.
Speaker 3: We don't have.
Speaker 2: The resources or really the ability legally to do it
Speaker 2: on our end.
Speaker 3: So what's happened?
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure who really put this in motion,
Speaker 2: but I'd love to know because I do think this,
Speaker 2: if it can get worked out, if everybody can agree
Speaker 2: to be on the same page, this will be a
Speaker 2: really good thing. So it broke last night by I
Speaker 2: believe Ross Dellinger of Yahoo Sports, who put it out
Speaker 2: there that the nc DOUBLEA, I'm sorry, not the NCAA,
Speaker 2: but the Power four Conferences have drafted a contract that
Speaker 2: they want all these schools within the Power four, the
Speaker 2: acc SEC, Big ten, Big twelve, they want them to
Speaker 2: all sign an agreement that they're going to follow these
Speaker 2: new rules that collectively the four conferences are going to enforce.
Speaker 3: And this is going to require these schools to waive
Speaker 3: the right to.
Speaker 2: Sue over decisions, because if in fact, you don't follow
Speaker 2: the rules that are put out there, you'll be held accountable,
Speaker 2: There'll be punishment, there'll be a standard process for how
Speaker 2: you are dealt with. And if you signed the agreement
Speaker 2: that you won't sue, then you got to you got
Speaker 2: to follow the rules. So the document is described as
Speaker 2: an affiliation or a membership agreement. It's not finalized, but
Speaker 2: a draft of it has been distributed to dozens of
Speaker 2: school presidents, general counsel and athletic directors, and there's been
Speaker 2: some pushback against the concepts, and those concepts apparently are
Speaker 2: being refined the ones that there was pushback on, and
Speaker 2: it's meant to be signed by all seventy plus Power
Speaker 2: Conference schools as well as other schools that want to
Speaker 2: opt into the settlement as a way to bind the
Speaker 2: group and provide stability around the enforcement of these rules,
Speaker 2: including in il GO clearinghouse and LBI cap management system.
Speaker 2: And this I don't it's hard for me to imagine
Speaker 2: this all came together really really quickly. But there was
Speaker 2: a new Tennessee state in IL law that was unearthed
Speaker 2: last week that gives you an example of why the
Speaker 2: agreement is necessary to have the stability and regulation in
Speaker 2: this rev share era of college sports. Because Tennessee they're
Speaker 2: in IL law. Was is put out there just to
Speaker 2: keep them from being able to say, you know, you
Speaker 2: know that there's a cap on money you can spend
Speaker 2: right And again that's why I keep saying, I think
Speaker 2: it would be an endless battle. I think there's always
Speaker 2: going to be a way in which you can you
Speaker 2: can sue and take it to court and say there's
Speaker 2: no reason, there's no reason that they can they that
Speaker 2: there there's no reason the NCAA would be able to
Speaker 2: tell us we can't pay this player this money, regardless
Speaker 2: if it's coming from us directly or if it's coming
Speaker 2: from a booster or whatever it may be. So Tennessee
Speaker 2: is saying, look, we believe we've got enough money here
Speaker 2: within our support system rather it be donors, boosters, whatever,
Speaker 2: to where we don't want to agree to this because
Speaker 2: we actually believe we could have the deepest pockets out
Speaker 2: there and that can help us. And I get it,
Speaker 2: there's really no harm in that, but some's got to give.
Speaker 2: So what this does is it it puts you in
Speaker 2: a position to where if you're if you want to
Speaker 2: be against it and you don't want to agree. I
Speaker 2: don't know how they would do this, but apparently you
Speaker 2: can get kicked out of your conference again. That's one
Speaker 2: that I don't understand how you'd be able to do that.
Speaker 3: But what do I know? I mean, I would say
Speaker 3: that those involved in.
Speaker 2: This process are well aware of what you would be
Speaker 2: legally allowed to do and what you wouldn't be allowed
Speaker 2: to do. I mean, I guess you can if we
Speaker 2: woke up today and found out that Josh Hurd decided
Speaker 2: to call every athletic director in the ACC and say, yeah,
Speaker 2: we need to take a vote, we need to boot
Speaker 2: Boston College. They like I think I think that I
Speaker 2: think you can do that. Maybe I'm wrong, but I
Speaker 2: think that actually happened. I think who was it.
Speaker 3: That got kicked out? Was it Boston College? You got
Speaker 3: kicked out of the Big East.
Speaker 2: Somebody got kicked out of the Big East at one point,
Speaker 2: and it was it was quite literally a yeah, we
Speaker 2: all agree, you're out. We don't You're holding You're holding
Speaker 2: those back in some way. So this is huge. It
Speaker 2: may not be something that really is on your radar,
Speaker 2: because again, if your tunnel vision is just whatever happens
Speaker 2: and whatever relates to your team, that's probably what a
Speaker 2: lot of college sports fans uh are doing.
Speaker 3: And I get it.
Speaker 2: But for the future of college athletics, there needs to
Speaker 2: be some level of regulation.
Speaker 3: And it can no longer. I mean I say it
Speaker 3: can no longer. Maybe it can. I'm not sure, what
Speaker 3: do I know, but it's best.
Speaker 2: For everybody if the objects of college sports is not
Speaker 2: what it's been the last few years.
Speaker 3: I argue that this that that certain.
Speaker 2: Sports, specifically basketball and even football to an extent, I
Speaker 2: think are better off in this new world because you're
Speaker 2: getting players to stick around and play longer than they
Speaker 2: used to. That alone is benefiting the product better, players
Speaker 2: sticking around seeing the college path as a more attractive
Speaker 2: thing for a longer period of time. Again, that makes
Speaker 2: the product better. In IL gives you free agency. Not
Speaker 2: only is it good for programs who want to be
Speaker 2: able to make a big roster change every year if
Speaker 2: need be, they can do that. Players can start fresh elsewhere.
Speaker 2: They don't have to just say, well, I'm going to
Speaker 2: stay here forever because I don't want to have to
Speaker 2: sit out a season.
Speaker 3: So we'll see where this goes from here. I haven't
Speaker 3: seen much.
Speaker 2: Updates since since the show started, but that is a
Speaker 2: big piece of news. And I know a lot of
Speaker 2: us around here college sports it's really all we care about.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know the NFL is king, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's some NBA fans out there, maybe some Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball fans out there. I mean, I'm sure there are,
Speaker 2: I just don't know a lot of them.
Speaker 3: But we care about.
Speaker 2: UFL basketball, football, all UFL sports. Clearly a ton of
Speaker 2: people care about UK football, UK basketball, all UK sports,
Speaker 2: and I don't see a scenario where like those would
Speaker 2: ever not exist. But there needs to be some level
Speaker 2: of regulation and guidelines, guardrails. If you will and it
Speaker 2: sounds like we're getting that and that's a good thing,
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Speaker 2: ninety Louisville dot com. Sticking with college hoops here, the
Speaker 2: commitment yesterday from Mohammed Kamara came out of nowhere. And
Speaker 2: I don't say that to be critical, because I mean
Speaker 2: I'd never heard of the kid before I found out
Speaker 2: he'd committed to Louisville yesterday. He's a raw prospect, a
Speaker 2: guy that definitely gives you just some more depth and
Speaker 2: some more pieces in your front court. Although he's not
Speaker 2: super big. I mean he's sixty seven six a depending
Speaker 2: on where you look, very raw, definitely going to be
Speaker 2: someone that benefits from the weight room here at u
Speaker 2: of L. But you've got spots open and he's certainly
Speaker 2: going to take one, and that's a good sign. Obviously,
Speaker 2: he won't fill a void if it's there with Ali Khalifa,
Speaker 2: but you at least now have another member of your
Speaker 2: front court.
Speaker 3: And it's not.
Speaker 2: Necessarily something we're used to to where you just out
Speaker 2: of nowhere find out that a player's committed and nobody
Speaker 2: really knew who he was. I don't think it was
Speaker 2: quite the same level with Sonny Threw, although I will
Speaker 2: admit I didn't. I don't think I knew much about
Speaker 2: the guy till the day he committed, or maybe I
Speaker 2: don't even know if i'd heard of him before. Then.
Speaker 2: I'm very happy with what I do know about him.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to come in and really help
Speaker 2: Louisville this year. But I think when you get to
Speaker 2: this time of year, maybe annually, you're going to see
Speaker 2: coach is just trying to because you Coaches used to
Speaker 2: not use a scholarship on a player unless they really
Speaker 2: really felt for sure that that guy. I mean, you
Speaker 2: never know for sure, but you felt good about this
Speaker 2: guy fitting with what you wanted to do, fitting your culture,
Speaker 2: being able to develop and be a good player to
Speaker 2: help you win. And that's why you would see coaches
Speaker 2: previously leave scholarships open if they couldn't find somebody, because
Speaker 2: they weren't going to offer a guy just to offer
Speaker 2: a guy. And that made sense then, but now you
Speaker 2: have no real risk of having a guy join your
Speaker 2: program because if it doesn't work, out in a year,
Speaker 2: you can move on from him, and he can move
Speaker 2: on from you, and you know the scholarships available again,
Speaker 2: like leaving scholarships open now this day and age, lily
Speaker 2: don't make a lot of sense. Now, you may get
Speaker 2: to the point where you simply know there's nobody that
Speaker 2: you believe will help you, although I find that hard
Speaker 2: to believe. But then again, binding players that are willing
Speaker 2: to come in and be a guy that se finding
Speaker 2: a player to come and commit to you, and they've
Speaker 2: got other options when they can clearly see that they're
Speaker 2: not going to be in the rotation right away. I
Speaker 2: mean that that's an easier thing to turn down now
Speaker 2: for these players because they can now say, yeah, I
Speaker 2: love that you're offering me, but I know you got
Speaker 2: three guys at my position in the front quarter in
Speaker 2: the back court that I'm going to be behind. So
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to a different score that is
Speaker 2: lower level than yours, maybe even mid major, maybe just
Speaker 2: a place that I know I can play early on,
Speaker 2: and then if it works out the way I hope
Speaker 2: it does, I'll bounce up and maybe you'll want me.
Speaker 3: Then.
Speaker 2: I mean that's a path you might see guys take
Speaker 2: So I just think guys randomly ending up on your
Speaker 2: roster in late May early June wouldn't shock me if
Speaker 2: he becomes somewhat of an annual thing, And for Kentucky,
Speaker 2: I feel like that's kind of happening now. I won't
Speaker 2: speak like I know a lot about this young man,
Speaker 2: because I don't, But I did hear a little bit
Speaker 2: of KSR this morning and Matt and his crew were
Speaker 2: talking about Braden Hawthorne, a top forty ish freshman to
Speaker 2: be that is now down to it looks like he's
Speaker 2: gonna choose between Kentucky, Duke Pittsburgh, West Virginia and Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: And I don't think he's really been on the radar
Speaker 3: a whole lot.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he's been somebody they've been recruiting and
Speaker 2: keeping an eye on. But man, once you start to
Speaker 2: initially put your roster together, outside of the elite recruits
Speaker 2: that are freshmen, most the guys you're talking about are
Speaker 2: trendsfer portal guys, and that's the way it's going to
Speaker 2: be moving.
Speaker 3: Forward, and that's the way it should be.
Speaker 2: So Kentucky get ended up with a kid who needs
Speaker 2: a six to eight. Wing goes to Huntington Prep from
Speaker 2: West Virginia. I believe he was committed to West Virginia
Speaker 2: decommittee when they made a coaching change and is now
Speaker 2: still considering them. But this could be just another guy.
Speaker 2: I mean again, Kentucky and Louisville could be kind of
Speaker 2: in a similar situation, not not exactly the same, but
Speaker 2: a very similar situation. And back to back days where
Speaker 2: the coaching staff is just trying to finalize that roster.
Speaker 2: They look, they're they're available, They're looking at what's available
Speaker 2: out there. They know who's who's you know, who's left
Speaker 2: in the portal. They know which players from the high
Speaker 2: school ranks are still available. And I think you can
Speaker 2: be a little you can be a little you know,
Speaker 2: you can take more of a risk this late in
Speaker 2: the game, because again, if it doesn't work out, what's
Speaker 2: the harm. You can move on after a year. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess the harm would be bringing in somebody that
Speaker 2: could be like detrimental to your team as far as
Speaker 2: like the culture in that. But I feel like you'd
Speaker 2: be able to weed that out pretty quickly or maybe
Speaker 2: realize if that was going to be a concern. So
Speaker 2: he's gonna make his decision at seven o'clock, and who knows,
Speaker 2: maybe he does. And this is another thing. I'm not
Speaker 2: poking at Kentucky here by any means. But if this
Speaker 2: kid who's a six to seven wing, if he decided
Speaker 2: to commit to Pittsburgh or even West Virginia over Kentucky.
Speaker 2: You know, in a previous world, that would be unheard of.
Speaker 2: Right but not now, because this kid may see, Look,
Speaker 2: I can go be the twelfth guy on Kentucky's bench
Speaker 2: and maybe then get an opportunity to play in year two.
Speaker 2: Or I can go play right away at a place
Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh or West Virginia or Virginia Tech, and if
Speaker 2: I'm as good as I think I am, it'll show
Speaker 2: and then I'll transfer after a year and maybe I
Speaker 2: can then end up at Kentucky. Like that would be
Speaker 2: an understandable decision, like I if I you know, everybody's different,
Speaker 2: but if I was a freshman in this sort of
Speaker 2: in this situation. By now, programs like Duke in Kentucky,
Speaker 2: their roster's pretty set. They may have an opening there
Speaker 2: and they may want you to come in and take
Speaker 2: one of those final spots.
Speaker 3: But you can read the room.
Speaker 2: You know where you stand, you know where you fall
Speaker 2: in the pecking order, and there's nothing wrong with going
Speaker 2: and being okay with a very minor role in your
Speaker 2: first year because you still get a good experience. You're
Speaker 2: playing for a big brand, but you're probably gonna be
Speaker 2: on the bench, and yeah, you might get better in practice,
Speaker 2: but I feel like the best way to get better
Speaker 2: is actual repetition, playing in games, real minutes. So if
Speaker 2: it was me, I would have no problem in bypassing
Speaker 2: an offer from a Duke or a Kentucky to be
Speaker 2: the top guy you know to be, to be, you know,
Speaker 2: one of the last guys to get in the game,
Speaker 2: a guy that clearly has to potentially beat out guys
Speaker 2: that are three four years older than me.
Speaker 3: I would go to a not a D two school
Speaker 3: or a mid major.
Speaker 2: But if I had options to go to a place
Speaker 2: where I know it won't be quite as competitive as
Speaker 2: a freshman to get minutes, that's what I would do.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jeremiah Fears, He's the kid from Oklahoma who
Speaker 2: was a freshman last year, and you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know what his what his offers looked like. I can
Speaker 2: pull it up here and he's you know, he's the
Speaker 2: first that comes to mind for me as somebody that
Speaker 2: that nagain, he went to Oklahoma. It wasn't like he
Speaker 2: went to Oklahoma Teck or some never heard of school,
Speaker 2: but he was. He was ranked the sixty fifth player
Speaker 2: in the class last year. So when he decided to
Speaker 2: go to Oklahoma, he chose Oklahoma over Providence, Tennessee and Crayton.
Speaker 2: So you know, he wasn't somebody that was probably being
Speaker 2: pursued by the big schools at all. And I would
Speaker 2: imagine that maybe, you know, and by the way, here
Speaker 2: the schools Arizona, Tennessee, Providence, Creighton, like those were the
Speaker 2: schools along with Oklahoma that recruited him, And maybe he
Speaker 2: thought to himself, I got a better chance of getting
Speaker 2: on the floor right away at Oklahoma, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go there. And maybe in that moment he's thinking to himself, Okay,
Speaker 2: this will give me a chance to get some good
Speaker 2: minutes and then I can hit the portal and then
Speaker 2: jump up and play right away at a bigger school.
Speaker 2: Not that Oklahoma's some small school, but you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. Well, now he was so good at Oklahoma
Speaker 2: after his freshman season, I mean, if you look at
Speaker 2: the mock drafts here, he's right now projected to be
Speaker 2: the seventh pick in the draft. Now that's hard to replicate, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, to go from a kid that's not top
Speaker 2: fifty and then go as a freshman and then turn
Speaker 2: into a lottery pick, that's very difficult to do.
Speaker 3: It happens, But I just think.
Speaker 2: It would be hard for somebody to argue with me
Speaker 2: that the portal is in a better situation for everybody involved.
Speaker 2: The only people that can claim it's not would be
Speaker 2: probably fans or coaches who are mad their players are
Speaker 2: leaving but you don't own them like they can do
Speaker 2: whatever they want. Anybody claiming they should just have to
Speaker 2: stay because you want them on your team or you
Speaker 2: want to coach them as the coach, Say that out
Speaker 2: loud and give it a listen, See how you sound.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's insane and what I think used.
Speaker 3: To be a legitimate.
Speaker 2: Argument to be made, and it still can be a
Speaker 2: legitimate argument, and that is that these guys just being
Speaker 2: able to leave whenever they want and running from adversity
Speaker 2: because they didn't have to fight and work hard to
Speaker 2: compete to get to a better position on the depth
Speaker 2: chart or whatever it may be. You're not wrong about
Speaker 2: some of these guys. Now again, the argument about a
Speaker 2: guy who goes to a like, for example, one of
Speaker 2: Louisville's you know, one of Louisville's biggest editions, I mean,
Speaker 2: in fact, depending on where. In fact, I think all
Speaker 2: of all of the rankings out there as far as
Speaker 2: transfer portal guys have Adrian Wooley as Louisville's best edition
Speaker 2: via the portal from he went to Kennesau State for
Speaker 2: a year as a freshman and became an All conference player,
Speaker 2: one of the best freshmen in the country. Anybody claiming
Speaker 2: he should have to stay there, like what, no other
Speaker 2: than just claiming that he should have to because you
Speaker 2: want them to play for your team if your team
Speaker 2: is Kennessall State. So he's not somebody that's running from adversity.
Speaker 2: He's trying to help himself, he's trying to better himself.
Speaker 2: Why would anybody be against that because it might make
Speaker 2: your team not as good next year? Which again, like
Speaker 2: that's I mean say that out loud, it's you know
Speaker 2: you're not in You don't own these players. They can
Speaker 2: do what they want. They don't have to play for
Speaker 2: you because they just decided to. So there may be
Speaker 2: players that learned after four years of college instead of
Speaker 2: just realizing they needed to get better or maybe they
Speaker 2: weren't as good as they thought they'd be, instead of
Speaker 2: embracing whatever role that that came to them, they just
Speaker 2: kept running because they thought, Okay, this coach is wrong,
Speaker 2: this coach is wrong. You may be right that they
Speaker 2: are running from adversity, and they won't.
Speaker 3: They won't, really, they won't.
Speaker 2: They won't have that moment to build their character, all
Speaker 2: that corny stuff that you hear, and again, for certain
Speaker 2: players that may be the case. But what's different is
Speaker 2: that doesn't make it right. It doesn't make it to
Speaker 2: where you should just they should be forced to stay.
Speaker 2: So I know I've said this many many times, and
Speaker 2: I can already be repetitive as it is, but college
Speaker 2: sports has changed so much in like the last three
Speaker 2: or four years.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, and.
Speaker 2: I'm maybe it's what I'm just choosing to believe, but
Speaker 2: I do think it's changed for the better, especially if
Speaker 2: there finally ends up being some real regulation in rules
Speaker 2: and everybody has to abide by them. And it sounds
Speaker 2: like we're getting close to that. All right, let's get
Speaker 2: a quick break. We'll come back on the other side.
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Speaker 2: Good about thirty minutes left here on a Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out with us. I do want to go.
Speaker 2: Also give a big thank you to my friends over
Speaker 2: at the Louisville Men's Clinic. Shout out to doctor Wood
Speaker 2: and everybody else did they got a great team. I'll
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Speaker 2: I did not even really know what that meant. When
Speaker 2: I hear testosterone, I mean I thought, I mean, I
Speaker 2: guess I had some level of awareness of what that was.
Speaker 2: But when it's low, I just assume, well that, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll be in it. I'll be honest, I was an idiot.
Speaker 2: I just assumed that maybe ED and low T are
Speaker 2: the same thing, and they're not at all completely different.
Speaker 2: Low testosterone is way more common than anybody would probably realize.
Speaker 2: That was the case for me, I think for a
Speaker 2: good chunk of my early thirties, I just assumed that
Speaker 2: that's life, and it really hits you hard when you're
Speaker 2: going from being, you know, in your twenties to being
Speaker 2: in your early thirties. It wasn't anything drastic, but just
Speaker 2: not getting the same results in the gym, feeling lethargic
Speaker 2: at times, just being completely wiped out at the end
Speaker 2: of the day for no real reason. Wasn't as if
Speaker 2: I ran a marathon or anything. I would just be
Speaker 2: completely exhausted, and I just felt like I'd lost my
Speaker 2: edge a little bit. And I chalked it up too, well,
Speaker 2: it's life. You're getting older, and sure enough, when you
Speaker 2: hear more and more from others like myself in my
Speaker 2: age range that realized they had testosterone levels that were
Speaker 2: not where they're supposed to be, I but you know what,
Speaker 2: we might as well, I might as well reach out
Speaker 2: to one of our clients, one of our partners here,
Speaker 2: and that's what I did.
Speaker 3: And I was educated by.
Speaker 2: Doctor Wood as far as what low testosterone means, how
Speaker 2: it can affect you, when it can potentially affect you.
Speaker 2: And I thought, okay, this might exactly, this might be
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Speaker 2: starting to get some belly fat, starting to get man boobs,
Speaker 2: starting to just you know, not get the results that
Speaker 2: I'm putting in in the gym. And it wouldn't as
Speaker 2: if I was lifting like a bodybuilder, but I was
Speaker 2: putting it, putting in time to try to take care
Speaker 2: of myself, trying to eat, not on a crazy healthy diet,
Speaker 2: but you know, watch what I eat. But I wouldn't
Speaker 2: get in the results. So they checked my levels and
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Speaker 2: when it comes to them bringing it to you as
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that. It's not possible. And trust me,
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Speaker 3: In medical terms.
Speaker 2: But your levels being so alarming that your doctor would
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Speaker 3: Four four four thousand. All right, So.
Speaker 2: I don't feel as bad now as I've given it
Speaker 2: some thought. But I used to dedicate an entire segment
Speaker 2: on this show to talking about different shows that I
Speaker 2: was streaming and watching that I was binging and just
Speaker 2: really into. And there have been some that got brought
Speaker 2: up and talked about that were really popular with everybody,
Speaker 2: and then some that were more so, you know, not
Speaker 2: as popular. It's just something I really got into. But
Speaker 2: when I saw that Netflix has given us a top
Speaker 2: ten list for the most watched Netflix shows of all time,
Speaker 2: I assume there'd be a few in there that I've watched,
Speaker 2: you know, like Ozark. Yeah, I mean that one for
Speaker 2: sure I thought would be in there, but it's not.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you the list here, Austin. Okay,
Speaker 2: can you tell me how many of these you've you've
Speaker 2: watched it all?
Speaker 4: Bet you I can guarantee, no, I won't was about
Speaker 4: I bet you I can at least guess two of them.
Speaker 2: This one I never watched and I never really had
Speaker 2: any interest. But I'm not surprised that it's in here
Speaker 2: because I knew how popular it was.
Speaker 3: Squid Game.
Speaker 4: Oh I love squid Game.
Speaker 2: So Squid Game season one is the most watched Netflix
Speaker 2: show of all time?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I remember six two and sixty five point two million views.
Speaker 4: Very good show you get. You gotta check that out.
Speaker 3: Do you think I'd like it?
Speaker 4: Well? I didn't think of that one.
Speaker 3: Like is it too? Is it too hard to keep
Speaker 3: up with? Or like what I mean?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, I mean I honestly don't even know what it's about.
Speaker 4: It's uh, it's isn't it?
Speaker 3: It's not? Is it? Is it in English?
Speaker 4: No, it's not in English. That would be your barrier
Speaker 4: if you want to watch it dubbed or.
Speaker 3: I remember why I watched dubbed subtitle.
Speaker 4: The second season I watched dub but the first the first, uh,
Speaker 4: the first one I just watched straight off of subtitles.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, do not take this
Speaker 2: the wrong way. You loving a show that you only
Speaker 2: watched in subtitles tells me that that show really hooked you.
Speaker 4: It was pretty good. I liked it well. I also
Speaker 4: just try to like keep up with because everyone on
Speaker 4: the internet was, oh, yeah, it was a sho show. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just watched it straight out of that night and
Speaker 4: I'm getting hooked. But love squid Game. Can't wait for
Speaker 4: the I guess the third season or the second half
Speaker 4: of the second season. I don't know what they did
Speaker 4: with the second season.
Speaker 2: So the second most watched series on Netflix and it
Speaker 2: got And by the way, these are these are all
Speaker 2: original Netflix shows, so just keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: It's a show called Wednesday. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: Oh, the the Jena Ortego Wednesday Adams That's what it is. Okay,
Speaker 4: I saw The Adams Family.
Speaker 3: I see it now like that.
Speaker 4: I watch like three episodes.
Speaker 3: Now, that was that popular, I guess.
Speaker 4: So I didn't know that it was a second most
Speaker 4: streamed Netflix show ever.
Speaker 2: I mean, is it kid friendly? Could could that have
Speaker 2: opened up a different.
Speaker 4: World of viewers, raunchy or anything. It's like The Adams
Speaker 4: Family with I guess like a twenty whenever it came
Speaker 4: out twenty twenty three twists. Jenner Ortega is kind of hot.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not surprised at all that that show was popular,
Speaker 2: but to see that it was. It was the second
Speaker 2: most watched show ever for Netflix. That's what I just
Speaker 2: don't understand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that one kind of blows my mind. But
Speaker 4: that's where she really kind of blew up. That that actress,
Speaker 4: But she plays the same thing in everything she's.
Speaker 3: She plays the same thing as she played in this show.
Speaker 4: She always plays like the same off putting, like I'm
Speaker 4: sick of it teenager. She's also in Beetlejuice, the second Beetlejuice.
Speaker 4: She was in that show You if You've ever watched You,
Speaker 4: the second season of that.
Speaker 3: OK.
Speaker 4: I think that's where her really her biggest break came
Speaker 4: from Netflix from from Wednesday.
Speaker 2: So Wednesday is the second and then the second season
Speaker 2: of Squid Games is the third most watch show. So
Speaker 2: Squid Games and that doesn't really surprise me. Again, I
Speaker 2: didn't watch it, but I knew how popular it was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't as good as the first season, and then
Speaker 2: it's still good. This is a show that I think
Speaker 2: if I did sit down and watch it, I think
Speaker 2: I would like it. I just have not done it yet.
Speaker 2: But that is stranger things.
Speaker 4: Oh, I love Stranger Things one of my favorite shows ever.
Speaker 4: I'll put that my top five shows ever. Cloud me
Speaker 4: all you want?
Speaker 2: Now, are you surprised to know that it's Stranger Things
Speaker 2: season four, not in any of the other seasons, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what that one was the last season, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: if that's the last season, then that makes sense as
Speaker 2: to why it was so popular.
Speaker 4: It was really really I listen, I love Stranger Things,
Speaker 4: I am. I am kind of angry that it's taken
Speaker 4: like nine years to put out five seasons, but it's
Speaker 4: still pretty good.
Speaker 2: Number five is a show called Adolescence that I'm not
Speaker 2: real familiar with.
Speaker 4: I ever heard of it.
Speaker 2: It came out in Let's see it came out. It
Speaker 2: centers around a thirteen year old boy schoolboy who was
Speaker 2: arrested after the murder of a girl in his school.
Speaker 4: That sounds interesting to me, I see, I wanted to
Speaker 4: That just became popular this year.
Speaker 3: It just came out.
Speaker 4: That just came out.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, that that's insane. So it just came
Speaker 2: out and it's already in the top five, Like it
Speaker 2: must be really.
Speaker 4: Really good.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to do that.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a show my wife and I would
Speaker 2: like watching together, and I try to find shows we
Speaker 2: watched together because I can just get you know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to make she she doesn't waste her time
Speaker 2: just streaming and watching TV like I do. She can
Speaker 2: she can stay busy to and other stuff. So I
Speaker 2: could watch all this stuff and she wouldn't care. But
Speaker 2: I like, you know, introducing shows to her that she
Speaker 2: likes and we watch together, so you know, we have
Speaker 2: we have, you know, some time to you know, to
Speaker 2: just binge out and watch TV. But yeah, this one,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it on the list for us to
Speaker 2: h to watch here soon. Right Number six is Dahmer
Speaker 2: didn't watch it one, But I'm not surprised. I mean
Speaker 2: that that was uh, I mean that that that has
Speaker 2: gotta be Jeffrey Dahmer. Among all the serial killers we've
Speaker 2: had in society over the years, Dahmer is like that
Speaker 2: that's an endless content source for anybody, Like how many
Speaker 2: different things can they do? Television reading, documentaries made for
Speaker 2: TV series about Like there can't be another criminal serial
Speaker 2: killer that has had more content created about him than
Speaker 2: this guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very very creepy. That's a very creepy show too.
Speaker 4: And that kid that plays him, that Evan Peters kid,
Speaker 4: he's really really good too.
Speaker 3: All right, Bridgerton, do you know what that is? I
Speaker 3: never watched it, but I know what it is, know
Speaker 3: what it is. Never watched it.
Speaker 2: Also, not surprised that it's super popular, just not necessarily
Speaker 2: what I think would be my cup of tea.
Speaker 4: I thought it would have been more popular, honestly, the
Speaker 4: Queen's Gambit. I've watched like an episode or two, but like,
Speaker 4: it didn't hook me. I've heard it was like people
Speaker 4: that watched it all the way through say, it's really good.
Speaker 3: No clue what it is. I'm looking here.
Speaker 4: It's got that one uh one chick with the wide eyes.
Speaker 4: She looks like a fish. Wasn't she in Ted too?
Speaker 4: It's Taylor Anya Anya, Taylor Joy or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the main. She's the main.
Speaker 2: I'm sure she's listening. And we do apologize. So I
Speaker 2: do apologize to you. So Bridgerton was seven and that
Speaker 2: was season one. Season three of Bridgeston was number nine
Speaker 2: and then number number ten. Is a show that I
Speaker 2: did start, and I was gonna say I liked it,
Speaker 2: but I feel like if I liked it enough, I
Speaker 2: would have stuck with it.
Speaker 3: However, this was put it this way.
Speaker 2: This was the show that I watched dubbed that I
Speaker 2: gave the longest amount of time to see if I
Speaker 2: could get used to it without thinking, okay, I'm out, okay,
Speaker 2: Money Heist. I never watched it really popular. I don't
Speaker 2: know how many seasons they had. Looks like they had
Speaker 2: three seasons, and I remember watching the first couple of
Speaker 2: episodes and I really liked it. But I think it
Speaker 2: was around the time when I was bouncing around from
Speaker 2: different shows and I just kind of abandoned it, but
Speaker 2: I knew how popular it was.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's one of Netflix's main shows ever
Speaker 4: since they came like a straight stream money High. Seems
Speaker 4: like it's one of the shows that they always push
Speaker 4: like original programming, because you can, I guess you could
Speaker 4: deal with every Netflix original so you can go change
Speaker 4: like your avatar for like who's signing in, and it
Speaker 4: can be whatever Netflix shows that they have. I feel
Speaker 4: like they were really pushing Money Heist.
Speaker 2: Well, They're going to obviously push shows that are there
Speaker 2: that are their original programming, but a lot of the
Speaker 2: shows that I've watched on Netflix.
Speaker 3: They weren't.
Speaker 2: They didn't start there right, right, Like I really liked
Speaker 2: Shameless on Showtime.
Speaker 4: I watch couldn't get into show I'd.
Speaker 2: Probably watched the first five or six seasons of that,
Speaker 2: and then I realized it's it's now, like it's coming
Speaker 2: out every season on Showtime and I watched on Showtime. Okay,
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of Netflix introduced me to certain
Speaker 2: shows that I later learned were not originally from Netflix.
Speaker 2: Netflix didn't you. I mean, Netflix became the thing that
Speaker 2: everybody had a subscription for that you streamed. A lot
Speaker 2: of what was on there wasn't original, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: they didn't make their big I mean, they didn't make
Speaker 2: their big push to start producing their own content or
Speaker 2: basically buying productions from different production companies. They didn't start
Speaker 2: doing that until a little bit later. So and a
Speaker 2: lot of the shows that I've really really liked in
Speaker 2: recent years, it's crazy that the streaming world has been
Speaker 2: or I mean for the last ten years almost. I
Speaker 2: feel like when it comes to me getting into something
Speaker 2: new that I'm watching on any device, whether it be
Speaker 2: my iPad or TV, whatever it is, it's a streaming
Speaker 2: platform it's not a television station. I mean Apple TV.
Speaker 2: Showtime is essentially now just a part of the paramount network,
Speaker 2: I believe. But Showtime had some amazing shows that I
Speaker 2: consider some of my all time favorites. So as much
Speaker 2: as I over the years have really gotten into shows,
Speaker 2: and there's certain shows that if I couldn't stream them,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't watch them. I mean, I may tell myself
Speaker 2: that I really like it, but there's a different like
Speaker 2: there's so many shows I've enjoyed over the years that
Speaker 2: I really would consider like all time greats. I'm glad
Speaker 2: I watched it, but I think if in the previous
Speaker 2: world of having to watch it every week when a
Speaker 2: new episode comes out, I don't think I would have
Speaker 2: stuck with it. So I'm glad we now have things
Speaker 2: the way they are, and I'm also glad that you know,
Speaker 2: the new the new way of doing it really with
Speaker 2: all of them is there. They're they're going to give
Speaker 2: you four right away, then they'll give you one per
Speaker 2: week until it's over, or sometimes these streaming platforms will
Speaker 2: just give you once per week. And it's the same
Speaker 2: thing it used to be, but now you can just wait.
Speaker 2: That's what I do like, we wait and let it
Speaker 2: build and then we'll when I can binge it and
Speaker 2: it's all there for me to consume, start to finish.
Speaker 3: That's that's what I do.
Speaker 4: So I feel like you would really love Stranger Things.
Speaker 3: Okay, again, that's the old That's that's well.
Speaker 2: Stranger Things in Money Heist are the two that I
Speaker 2: feel like I need to give it a shot.
Speaker 4: I will well, now that I'm sitting there thinking about it,
Speaker 4: I might reframe it because it's it's sci fi. It's like,
Speaker 4: but if it's just enough sci fiowing kids around, you know,
Speaker 4: and I feel like I've grown up with them, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what she's like.
Speaker 4: With what you mean for their whole duration, I think
Speaker 4: it came out like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen maybe, and
Speaker 4: I love it. I think, especially like you said this,
Speaker 4: this past season was its most stream one. I thought
Speaker 4: it was its best season. And since they're wrapping everything
Speaker 4: up now basically with that show, it's the next season
Speaker 4: that they have is going to be the last season.
Speaker 4: Every season they came before season four, they're basically answering
Speaker 4: all the questions of how they got to this point.
Speaker 4: They're they're putting a bow on the show really nicely.
Speaker 4: I cannot wait for the last season.
Speaker 2: So the sci fi used to just be such a
Speaker 2: turn off for me, and I don't know what it is, but.
Speaker 4: Like Star Wars sci fi.
Speaker 2: And this is I don't need to be this way
Speaker 2: because I've proven myself wrong at times. But if something
Speaker 2: is so unrelatable to me, I feel like I wouldn't
Speaker 2: like it. And I'm not just talking about like sci
Speaker 2: fi or supernatural. I'm talking about like shows that are
Speaker 2: based in like in England, like right, those some of
Speaker 2: those shows are the most popular shows of all time.
Speaker 2: Again the one that just came out that we just
Speaker 2: referenced from the list Bridgerton. Yeah, and No when Wednesdays. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the new one, right Yeah. I mean that's clearly
Speaker 2: great and I would like it. But I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's based in England, so I wouldn't like it. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I feel that way. I'm not anti
Speaker 2: any other country. It's not like I'm gonna be made
Speaker 2: in America or I'm not watching, but if it just
Speaker 2: seems so unrelatable, I don't think it's based in America.
Speaker 3: Oh, I could be wrong.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just know it's based off of
Speaker 4: It's like the Adams Family.
Speaker 2: So no, no, no, not Wednesday Adolescence is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Wednesday is not new Adolescence is the new one, right, Yes,
Speaker 2: that's when it just came out of the mark Wednesday,
Speaker 2: So I did, and I was wrong. But anyways, but
Speaker 2: one of my favorite shows, maybe my favorite show, is
Speaker 2: a show called Leftovers from HBO, and that is supernatural.
Speaker 2: Maybe some would call it sci fi, and it's it's
Speaker 2: my favorite. So like, I should give some of these
Speaker 2: shows a chance that I just because Stranger Things has
Speaker 2: that element to it, right, the sci fi is supernatural,
Speaker 2: but it's also got a lot of like you know,
Speaker 2: middle of America.
Speaker 3: Midwest relatability as far as where they grow up. If
Speaker 3: you if you mix those two things, I feel like
Speaker 3: I'd like it.
Speaker 4: I mix some of eighty soundtrack in it too, and
Speaker 4: just put yourself into that, like it will be a
Speaker 4: blast from the past.
Speaker 2: I started and liked it, and then I stopped for
Speaker 2: no real reason. And then once I got behind, I
Speaker 2: felt like a poser, like, well, I can't catch up
Speaker 2: now these guys are way ahead, I mean, and I
Speaker 2: need to stop doing that and watching in my own time.
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Speaker 2: He did it again, Austin Pat Kelsey just without even trying,
Speaker 2: doing things that people share that make us realize we
Speaker 2: have a special a special guy leading the Louisville basketball program.
Speaker 2: I don't want to overdo this as if it's something crazy,
Speaker 2: but you know, there's there's a level of I think
Speaker 2: humbleness to Pat Kelsey to where you know, he's even
Speaker 2: said that at times he has to as he has
Speaker 2: to ask himself, is this real? Like is he really
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Louisville basketball program. He talked
Speaker 2: about that a little bit last week at the ACC
Speaker 2: Spring meetings. We played some of that for you, and
Speaker 2: I mean, I believe that's genuine. Maybe that's just me
Speaker 2: being a homer, but he did have quite the difference
Speaker 2: in life situation. I mean, he was a very successful
Speaker 2: coach at Charleston and living a great life obviously in
Speaker 2: a beautiful place, a no name in college basketball to
Speaker 2: those who love the sport. But he goes from the
Speaker 2: guy at Charleston for a few years to then being
Speaker 2: the guy at Louisville and clearly was one of the
Speaker 2: top candidates for National Coach of the Year one ACC
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year. So off to a great start,
Speaker 2: but he hasn't been Hope, hope it never happens. I
Speaker 2: do think that he's someone that does really preach humility,
Speaker 2: but you know it's still new to him to where
Speaker 2: this is to me a wholesome story. So at the
Speaker 2: Eyble event in Memphis this past weekend, it's the Nike
Speaker 2: eybl circuit, the biggest AAU circuit that's out there more
Speaker 2: often than not. Nike, in fact, I think always has
Speaker 2: had the best players on their circuit. And Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: was there along with some of his staff recruiting players,
Speaker 2: just evaluating the talent that's there. And Pat Kelsey spotted Rant.
Speaker 2: Tim rant is the son, I'm sorry, is the father
Speaker 2: of John Morant. And this is from Jason Muns, who
Speaker 2: who covers recruiting for he actually he's the Memphis basketball
Speaker 2: beat writer for the Memphis News Enterprise there and I
Speaker 2: guess he saw the interaction and shared it on Twitter,
Speaker 2: and I just think it's you know, it's kind of
Speaker 2: one of those things that reminds you right now, this guy,
Speaker 2: hopefully forever, he's got a level of humbleness to where
Speaker 2: you know, it's just going to boost his likability even
Speaker 2: more so. But he spotted Team Rant and he wasn't
Speaker 2: sure if Tim Rant remembered him, so he introduced himself
Speaker 2: as the former Winthrop coach and said, I recruited your son.
Speaker 2: I'm Pat Kelsey, and I guess. He went on to
Speaker 2: kind of talk and share, you know, more about who
Speaker 2: he was, and tem Rant stopped him and assured him,
Speaker 2: I know who you are, Like, I'm.
Speaker 3: Well aware of who you are.
Speaker 2: They caught up, and there is a tweet that came
Speaker 2: out or that was put out on July twenty second
Speaker 2: of twenty sixteen that John Morant tweeted received my tenth
Speaker 2: offer from Winthrop, which again he ended up going to
Speaker 2: Murray State. It all worked out to where he's there
Speaker 2: for three years or maybe two years, whatever it was,
Speaker 2: and becomes an All American And I do believe as
Speaker 2: much hype as there was around John Morant for good reason.
Speaker 2: He had his games moved to like ESPN two when
Speaker 2: they were they were supposed to be on ESPN plus
Speaker 2: because he was. I mean, he was the biggest and
Speaker 2: most hyped recruit or NBA prospect from the lower level
Speaker 2: of college in a long time. But imagine the hype
Speaker 2: that had been there if he didn't have to compete
Speaker 2: with Zion. I mean, John Moran was special still as
Speaker 2: a special player. I hope it works out for him.
Speaker 2: Obviously things haven't gone well in the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: But I know, I just thought that was Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: introducing himself to team Rant as if he didn't know
Speaker 2: who he was, and he remembers that he recruited his son,
Speaker 2: he probably knows that he's a guy that's having success
Speaker 2: early on here in his Louisville tenure. So I just
Speaker 2: thought i'd share that. All Right, we're out of time,
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