WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:04.200 Baby, are my gamester too? It takes a little tangle. 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:07.759 You don't want mess with me? Mess with me by 3 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:15.400 Gangster too, Baby. 4 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:24.519 Gangstatoo, Good Warriors. 5 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.399 This podcast is designed to take you outside of your 6 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:31.239 comfort zone and make you question reality. Listener discretion is 7 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:43.880 a vibe, fellas, This ain't my first time at the rodeo. 8 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:56.039 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. I got a very exciting 9 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:59.359 episode tonight. We got a Enigma secret coming on with us, 10 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:03.679 Peter aka Enigma Seeker, and he approached me. He wanted 11 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:05.400 to come on and talk about Atlantis because it's a 12 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:07.040 little bit of a different angle than I think that 13 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:07.879 other people. 14 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:10.719 Have done on the show, and I'm all about that. 15 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:12.280 That's why we have so many different people on the 16 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:14.519 show at times, because they have different ways of looking 17 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.439 at things. So yeah, for sure, and it's going to 18 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:19.719 be an academic kind of angle and I am very. 19 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:20.239 Much for that. 20 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:22.840 So I'm very interested to hear what he's got to say. 21 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:25.799 But before we introduce him, we'll introduce the other rejects 22 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:29.000 on the show. And Jules started off with you, sir. 23 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.400 All right, doing good, doing good? What's going on? Everybody? 24 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:35.840 I was here last night on the quote rejects. I 25 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:39.280 am Jules the Mississippi Mystic, the host of the Gray 26 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:42.840 Pill Podcast. Go follow me over on Twitter at gray 27 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:47.560 Pill Pod. Subscribe to my Patreon, Subscribe to my Patreon 28 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:49.920 sign up. We got a lot of tears on there, 29 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:54.400 got a lot of Patreon exclusive content merch that we're 30 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:57.760 currently making, and some sticker packs that that I have 31 00:01:58.359 --> 00:02:00.439 that I'll send you. And yeah, it's a good way 32 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:02.760 to support the show. Be sure to like the stream 33 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:06.560 and share it, get it out there to uh the 34 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:10.439 internet waves. Let everybody see, get some people in here. 35 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:13.960 It's good to be here tonight, though. Very excited to 36 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.560 hear what Enigma Seeker has to say. 37 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:18.599 Yeah, thanks for having me. 38 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:19.599 Yeah, man for sure. 39 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:24.479 And shout out to Rebirth who introduced me. That's how 40 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:25.319 I learned about you guys. 41 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:28.240 Very nice. 42 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:30.759 Uh yeah, Julis, thank you for making this one. You know, 43 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:32.360 I know you were here last night. I also saw 44 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:33.560 your face this morning for a while. 45 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:35.479 That was a blast. 46 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.400 This morning was a fun esotery book review. Guys, if 47 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:40.960 you haven't checked it out, I don't think it's on 48 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:44.599 x anymore, but it's on Rumble and YouTube for now 49 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:48.840 until probably tomorrow morning, we looked at what was it 50 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:56.039 the uh something about wolves something. At first it was 51 00:02:56.080 --> 00:03:01.439 about elves, fawns and fairies, but the book was coded 52 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:04.919 in some Old English language, so we went on to reading, Uh, 53 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:13.599 the the wolf Bitches of Thessaly, brought to you by 54 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:17.919 manual labor subliminal messenger. Uh it was, it was. It 55 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.800 was fun to say the least, and uh we had 56 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:24.159 some pretty good discussions about it. Uh, stay tuned for 57 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:31.560 what was it? Enchanted wiggers? The next excuse me, the 58 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.039 next one? Anyway, what was it? 59 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:36.840 She saves Christmas too? Right? 60 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:38.080 Yeah? 61 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:39.639 Christmas? 62 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:42.039 Yeah? These Everybody else. 63 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:43.800 Was like, what these guys but no one knows what 64 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:44.159 we're talking. 65 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:47.800 Don't want to be there to disappear, you gotta be there. 66 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:51.479 But yeah, thank you very much for coming on Jewels again. 67 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.400 Like I know, on the weekends, you're very busy man, 68 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:54.680 and you tend to make a lot of the shows 69 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:55.080 on the weekend. 70 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:55.599 I appreciate that. 71 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:56.719 Yeah, man, I try. 72 00:03:57.400 --> 00:03:59.960 Hell yeah, and and Julia, I mean out of old 73 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:02.479 people to just just popped out a kid still jumping on. 74 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:09.280 Yeah, thank you, thank you, and thanks so much. I 75 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:13.199 always love joining for episodes like this. I love Atlantis, 76 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.720 It's one of my favorite topics. But yeah, you know 77 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.519 Cosmic Peach Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Speaking of bitches, 78 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:26.639 I just released an episode about the Ripper crew cutting bitches, 79 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.480 titties off, and fucking the tittholes. It's crazy. You gotta 80 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:34.560 fucking check it out. It's wild. I'm telling you you guys, 81 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:38.360 this is some next level shit. And again, if you 82 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:42.079 haven't found me already, you never will. Cosmic Peach Podcast, 83 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:43.680 thanks for having me. 84 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:45.600 Nick Cold intro. 85 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:50.160 It's a true cry podcast people, It's true. 86 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:54.199 This is why you're here. Thank you. 87 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:58.639 Hell yeah, definitely, you know you know what actually, out 88 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:00.959 of everybody here on the show, I've probably known Julia 89 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:02.279 the longest, believe it or not. 90 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:04.639 It's fucking wild. We've been in the podcast. 91 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:09.079 He literally he literally set up the episode where me 92 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:11.279 and my husband worked together for the first time. 93 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:15.319 Yeah wow, So yeah, she's got to do a couple 94 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:16.160 reject right there. 95 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:20.959 Yeah all right. Now finally to the man himself, Peter 96 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:23.879 a enigma seeker, What is going on, sir? How are you? 97 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:26.800 Would you like to introduce yourself and maybe you know, 98 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:28.399 give give a little bit of your credentials or I 99 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:29.720 could just pull it off. I think you have that 100 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.279 good ready to go and let maybe there know, you 101 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.240 know where they can find you. If you have anything 102 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:35.959 you want to promote. 103 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:38.560 Sure, yeah, if you want to bring up the first lide, 104 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.079 we can, Yeah, start for a little intro. 105 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:42.600 Yeah. 106 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:47.680 So my actual academic background is landscape architecture, so that's 107 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:50.240 kind of where I learned about garden history design, and 108 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:53.839 but before that, it was really studying international studies, which 109 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:56.680 deals with like geopolitics, and I took some anthropology and 110 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:59.439 that's where I learned about Graham Hancock and Randall Carson, 111 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:02.399 which I was leaning to them at that time in 112 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:06.000 my bachelor's but in my graduate degree I started shifting 113 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:08.360 away from what they were saying after I dig a 114 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:12.439 lot deeper research into the topic of Atlantis. But originally 115 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.240 I was in Air Force for a little bit, say Japanese, 116 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.639 so I know actually probably more about Japan I do 117 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:21.360 about Egypt. I am a Catholic, so I do have 118 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:23.920 kind of a biblical worldview, but I'm more of a 119 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:25.839 kind of like an academic ethoc in the sense that 120 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.439 I don't you know, I'm not a younger of creationists, 121 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.959 or I'm not, you know, believing some of the things 122 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:35.120 that some Freemasons believe, which are carryover what some evangelicals 123 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:37.439 used to or believe in, which is more the kind 124 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.600 of a literal interpretation of scripture and all that. So 125 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.959 I'm a little more liberal on that topic. And I 126 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:47.959 also was a boy scout, so but ufology is probably 127 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:51.439 where I first started when I had my actual wu 128 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:54.959 Wu experience. So I am an eyewitness of the second kind. 129 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.240 I have contacted the FBI once. I have talked to 130 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:02.480 Linda multi House. I have been on now a few 131 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.519 times when we were helping her out cataloging a phenomenon 132 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:10.360 that the UF is producing, and that was called the 133 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:14.360 Mystery Boom phenomenon. And so far Luelsandre has not mentioned it. 134 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.920 I'm keeping an ear out for that to see if 135 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.480 he mentions that, but that might be in the future. 136 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.399 We'll see. But something was going on between the years 137 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:27.279 twenty eleven and twenty fourteen that caused media reports all 138 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:29.639 around the country to start popping up local media and 139 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:32.839 reach national at tension once. So that's a whole other topic. 140 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.399 But I addressed this on the YouTube channel Suspect Sky 141 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:40.800 Adrian's channel and he has compilation videos about UFOs and 142 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:45.279 unidentified strange noises and other paranormal things. So I've made 143 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.399 videos for him a few times. So that's now kind 144 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:51.160 of where I'm shifting. I'm not making as many videos anymore. 145 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:53.480 Back to college, I did, but I'm no longer in college, 146 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.920 so I'm working now as a landscape designer and I 147 00:07:57.959 --> 00:07:59.959 live in Saint Louis, Missouri, but I did graduate from 148 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:02.000 University of Iowa and Iowa State. 149 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:09.639 Interesting, Yeah, thank you, that's wild you met a Yeah, 150 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:11.839 that's the lady with the commut relationships. 151 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.399 Right, Yeah. Yeah, Linda is still kicking. And she actually 152 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:16.319 got a touched a sample of the act some of 153 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.000 those UAP materials that Gary Nolan's mentioned in others. So 154 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:28.480 that's pretty interesting that she got touched that he's he's 155 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.199 the main guy that the Pentagon is using to disclose 156 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.600 the whole existence of the supernatural phenomenons. And again, lou 157 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.320 was not privileged to this until someone went to him. 158 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:40.639 And I think that's Mike. I think it was Mullen 159 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:44.960 or what's his name, the guy that hates Trump Clapper 160 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:49.440 under the Obama administration, those higher officials, they're the ones 161 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:51.639 that kicked all this off. So you can see why 162 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:53.240 they probably didn't want Trump in power at the time. 163 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:57.440 One reason, other geopilgal reasons, of course. 164 00:08:58.399 --> 00:08:59.120 Lots of reasons. 165 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.879 So what what got you you interested in Atlantis? 166 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.080 Well, again, it was more studying anthropology at the University 167 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.960 of Iowa, and that's where I ran Across Ran Across 168 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:14.600 and Graham Hancock of course. But also it's just like entertainment. 169 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.440 I mean there's a there's an anime called Nadia which 170 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:20.480 inspired Disney's Atlantis, which I loved both of those, and 171 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.720 I think the Japanese one did it a little bit better. Yeah, yeah, 172 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:27.759 I like that Disney didn't go straight to Zacharais Sitchens 173 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:31.080 style and Eric Wondanka, whereas the original anime Nadia that 174 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.000 inspired Atlantis, they went they were uh guy Neck Studio 175 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.759 was inspired by zach Reiztitian Eric Wondanica, so there was 176 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.879 more ancient alien route, whereas Disney did more of the 177 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:43.039 spiritual route, which is what Graham Hancock was linking to. 178 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:45.600 So I think the directors and writers they were listening 179 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.120 to people at Graham Hancock and Zacharizichen comparing and how 180 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:49.240 they're going to write their story. 181 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:55.799 What's your thoughts on zachariz sisition. 182 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:59.600 I'm not an ancient alien believer, and I can kind 183 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:02.320 of explain that more at the end of the slides. No, 184 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:05.399 maybe I used to be, but after experiencing this phenomenon 185 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.039 firsthand multiple times as a eyewitness of the second kind, Yeah, 186 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.559 this shit's not aliens. Wish it was, but you know 187 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.279 which was sexy alien girls. But now I don't think so. 188 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:17.240 I think it's a freak. 189 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.120 So I think you and I might be in agreeance 190 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.440 on that. I mean, I think people are seeing something. 191 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:27.440 I think there's obviously some phenomenon going on. I don't 192 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:32.879 necessarily think it's fucking et, but they are seeing something, 193 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:34.799 you know, they're seeing fack in. 194 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:37.840 Some capacadd Yeah, yeah, there's there's something going on, which 195 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:42.759 David Grush is correct to say there are biologics. But 196 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:46.039 there's a reason why they're avoiding the specific term of 197 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.200 extraterrestrials in the in the DLD document, if you read it, 198 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:53.919 they're avoiding that. But there is one clue that David 199 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:58.159 Grush alluded to, and that's the phrase interdimensional. So, as 200 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.240 a Catholic, when I hear that that's what I'm I 201 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:04.840 think angels or demons or jins or what Japanese would 202 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:09.360 call yokai or kami, so something a lot deeper than 203 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.080 just you know, aliens in spaceships. 204 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:16.639 Do you not think that these spiritual beings could take 205 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.279 on these physical forms though, or maybe inhabit something of 206 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:22.919 like some kind of biological form. 207 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:27.159 Yeah, that's what Catholics and muslim believe for over two 208 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.519 thousand years, and the Egyptians that believe that. So yes, 209 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:34.679 they physically can take avatar forms, but in limited time 210 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:37.639 and space. So they're basically the gods of ancient Pazz. 211 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.159 But they're not all powerful. They do have limitations because ultimately, 212 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.399 as the Tamaism Plato explains, there is a cosmic god 213 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:49.519 that keeps order over the lesser gods or the word 214 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.200 gods and angels and demons are basically the same thing. 215 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.879 They're just a semantically different thing based off cultural terminologies. 216 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.759 Like the word angel means messenger but also can refer 217 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.720 to watchers, but they're more like militaristic terms, like you know, 218 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.240 a literal messenger from the military goes out and sends 219 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:08.120 a message. They're using militaristic language in their theology, and 220 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:10.360 that's how the ancient world worked because there was no 221 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:12.480 separation of church and state in ancient times. 222 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:15.200 I'm already on board. 223 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:17.759 Yes to everything. 224 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:21.799 Hermis was considered the messenger of Zeus that he carried 225 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:24.480 the caduces Well, the caduceis was based off of this 226 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:29.679 rod that the messengers who observed battlefield would carry so 227 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:31.679 that people would kill them. So they had this big 228 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.360 rod with these white streamers off of the thing. And 229 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:38.240 so he was the angel of the god Zeus as 230 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:41.360 well as these messengers on the battlefield being the angels 231 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.960 of that king, whoever it is, commanding the armies. 232 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:48.200 Yeah, and Hermes is believed. Some scholars argue that I 233 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:51.759 maybe the former doctor michaels Heiser would argue that Hermis 234 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.240 or the archangel Michael derived from the inspiration of Hermes 235 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:59.759 motif and from Hermes, the Greek since got that inspiration 236 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:04.320 from Anubis. So it does go back to the land 237 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:08.759 of Atlantis, is what I argue. Atlantis. 238 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:11.840 Most people would connect Hermes with both, but that's the first. 239 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:12.240 Time I've heard. 240 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:17.639 Yeah again, I wouldn't get too attached to these place 241 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:20.320 these names on so called angels, because real angels. We 242 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.600 have no idea what the hell their names are, right, 243 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:26.679 We get these titles like Gabriel or no, so Rafayel 244 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:29.559 for example, it just means the healing angel or it's 245 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:33.080 a title phrase. It's not meant to be like literally 246 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.759 his name is Rafayel. No, there's many iterations of that. 247 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:41.480 That's why not magic. He's known for being a healing angel. 248 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:44.279 Because what you just said, Yeah, so when you invoke, 249 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:46.799 like if Catholics invoke that, some caps might take it 250 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:48.879 literal like he's literally named that, But it doesn't really 251 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:52.879 matter that whatever interdimensional beings around you, they might heal 252 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:55.159 you from you know, I don't know, kidney stones or something, 253 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:58.320 if you have real severe pain, if depending on your 254 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.840 spiritual state, they could enter. I think Madam Blovotsky and 255 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:04.799 other occultists believe that that, yes, you can summon angels 256 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:07.559 through psionics is when now what they're calling it, but 257 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:09.440 it's basically prayer meditation. 258 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:15.799 Ug all right, so uh we can go next time? 259 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.080 Su Oh, that's right, I'm controlling it my beads. 260 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:20.919 There we go. 261 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:25.320 So I guess getting I had a falling away from 262 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:27.879 you know, Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock mainly because you know, 263 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.720 as I studied at McBride Hall at the University of Iowa, 264 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:33.519 was on the upper left hand that building. That's why 265 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:35.360 I first heard about their names. I'm like, oh, my 266 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.279 professor actually mentioned them, so that was interesting. So after 267 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:40.919 he mentioned them, I dug deep and I started to 268 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.559 kind of fall for it, and I started to believe 269 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:47.200 that maybe Atlantis is basically North and South America. But 270 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.679 then I realized, uh, that's a mistake, because it was 271 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:55.559 basically Christopher Columbus assuming that maybe that's Atlantis. And he's 272 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:57.360 one of the first to promote this idea, so that's 273 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.600 why he named the first islands the Antilles or and Tilias, 274 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:05.960 and from there, since Columbus set that president others like 275 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.399 father Charles Brazio de Borgia. I can't say he's a 276 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:12.240 French dude, but he's the first one that really fall 277 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:14.919 in love of the Mayan culture. He was a Catholic 278 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:17.440 priest and archaeologist, and he did a lot of work 279 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:20.919 on Mayan history and really trying to analyze that. I 280 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:22.799 think Dan de d Dunker has mentioned him in one 281 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.399 of his videos and details, so I do alaud him 282 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:30.120 for that. But from there. You know, he influenced ignatious 283 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:32.759 Donnelly and Ignatia. Donald was politically motivated more so, and 284 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:35.759 he went to put his nationalist place attachment of Atlantis 285 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:40.120 in the Americas, or at least maybe in the Central Atlantic, 286 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:44.440 because there was a basic misconception between Atlantic Ocean and 287 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:48.200 Atlantic Sea. So that's where the confusion's coming about. People 288 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:51.519 thinking it's literally in the Atlantic Ocean. But that's not 289 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:54.799 the Greek's perspective at the time of you know, Solon, 290 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.759 or the time of even Plato some sense, So there's 291 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:02.159 some misconceptions on. You know, Graham and Random are kind 292 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.919 of using Atlantis as more of a concept to represent 293 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:08.759 a lost civilization befour hours before the Ice Age. And 294 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:12.519 that's fine. And I told Graham once on Facebook, you know, 295 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:16.000 it would be good to not use the name Atlantis 296 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:20.840 in his in his documentary Ancient Apocalypse, and he actually did, 297 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:24.840 surprisingly avoid using that name because I think he understands 298 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.480 now that Okay, historically, when you look into the deeper 299 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:30.879 brains of Plato, it's pretty clear it has nothing to 300 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:34.960 really do with the Americas or but you know, so 301 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.440 now it's people have broadened the term Atlantis just means 302 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:42.279 something something wesation past. And no thanks to Hollywood too. 303 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:44.639 It's really Hollywood that brainwashed a lot of people. 304 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:46.080 To give you a little bit of pushback. 305 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:46.279 Though. 306 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.200 We can't forget about Francis Bacon's book The New Atlantis, 307 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:52.399 which really did inspire a lot of Founding fathers and 308 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:54.679 how they wanted to form the country. 309 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:59.879 And you know, yes, because right, yeah, because that's why 310 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.440 an well, the Freemasons, Yeah, when they when the early 311 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:05.920 Freemasons came to America, so they really thought that the 312 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:09.640 Americas was that continent that Plato was speaking about. But 313 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:13.559 there are simply some translation errors at that early period 314 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:17.519 before Benjamin Jowad updated that. But even Benjamin Jowa or 315 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.319 the British translator, got some basic things wrong. But the night, 316 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.359 I'd say ninety five percent or more is correct. But 317 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:26.839 there's a few things like is it nine thousand or 318 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:29.119 is it nine hundred? Or do you divided by the 319 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:31.200 three seasons that'smatched in the Middle East, or is it 320 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:34.640 by the lunar calendar? So there's some confusion on the translations. 321 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:36.599 And more likely I'm gonna have to blame US Catholics 322 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.359 for that because of probably a bunch of monks in 323 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:41.680 Italy or France that messed up some translations that ended 324 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:45.039 up eventually getting to England. So over time people thought 325 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:47.920 when when the Romans named or when the Romans emphasized 326 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:49.960 that the straitcherche of Bulture is this and this new 327 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:53.480 pillars of Hercules, everyone assumed it was outside that. But 328 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:57.000 when you actually read Tomatos and Critaias, it's saying it's 329 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:01.599 subdued inside the pillars, but in the they're denoting a 330 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:05.759 different pillars than in Tamais, So there's two pillar locations. 331 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:08.839 And that's according to George sarn Titi's and I think 332 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:13.039 it's Johanna James who promoted Jack Kelly's documentary Atlanti's Puzzle, 333 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:16.200 and George Santezi's was actually one of my researchers, and 334 00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:19.720 he is correct to realize that Atlantis does have something 335 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:23.319 to do with literally North Africa. So credit to Jimmy 336 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:26.119 from Bright Inside for figuring that out as well. Atlantis 337 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:30.119 is definitely associated to the continent of North Africa, but 338 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:33.160 not just Africa. Basically, anything that's the Middle East and 339 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:38.079 North Africa to the Greeks was Atlantis the continent, but 340 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:40.960 the island is something specific again, it might be a 341 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.079 translation there too. Is it island or is it oasis? 342 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.640 How do we translate that from Greek to French to 343 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:50.440 Italian whatever in English? So there might be some mistakes 344 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:54.359 along there on how Plato is emphasizing the idea of 345 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.759 an island. Is he saying island in a poetic sense 346 00:18:57.079 --> 00:18:59.119 or is he saying it actually is like an oasis 347 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.319 because Egypt was surrounded by sand, a sea of sand. 348 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:08.200 Well, there's also the esoteric angle of Tomais and Critius, 349 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:10.440 which seems to get a lot more attention from the 350 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:15.240 academics then the actual there could be one, you know, 351 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:19.359 in reality. So if you're that, yeah, go ahead. 352 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:22.160 Yeah, you're correct. I was gonna show you something. Wait 353 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:23.599 do you see that link down there? 354 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:24.839 Oh go back? 355 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:26.319 Can you click on that and you can open that? 356 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.079 And I think it was Father Charles that he kind 357 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:35.279 of presents some esoteric ideas. Yeah, and click on that 358 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:39.279 map fourteen eighty that. Yeah, so this is the map 359 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:42.559 that may click it again. Oh, I don't know if 360 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:45.359 you can zoom in, but in this map, this is 361 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:49.400 what basically Randall, Carls and Graham Hancock are basing Atlantis 362 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:52.599 on because Originally, you know, back in the old days 363 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.880 when they wrote maps, maps were more of an artistic thing. 364 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:58.920 It wasn't exactly detailed detail because they just simply didn't 365 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:02.799 know how the all the exact shapes of islands and everything. 366 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:05.599 But they're pretty close, you know, maybe fifty percent sixty percent, 367 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:11.240 pretty accurate. But they put the Antilles or Atlantius in these. 368 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:13.519 I was near the Azores, and they thought that was 369 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:17.039 associated with Atlantis because at this time in the fourteenth century, 370 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:20.839 some some thought that it was outside the pillars, but 371 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:24.799 George Sorountisi is saying, no, it's more likely inside the pillars. 372 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:27.839 And then there's another map that kind of shows why 373 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.920 that would be. But that's that's an interesting map, I thoughts. 374 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:33.160 But everything Graham Hancock ran across and believe in is 375 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:35.720 based off this kind of this old map that is 376 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:38.480 just saying that it has something to do with the Azores. 377 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:42.240 But that's a misconception because people were still discovering new land. 378 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:45.279 They just simply didn't know the translations because there was 379 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.640 no map by Erodus. The map we see from Heradus 380 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:51.160 is just made up in the eighteen hundreds, it's not 381 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:52.039 he made up. 382 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:57.480 Also, Hercules is a character in Greek mythology that represents 383 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:01.839 their ability to expand and go out of these areas 384 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:03.680 that were known to them before. So the Pillars of 385 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.440 Hercules keep getting pushed back the more they discover in 386 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:09.480 Western Europe, and a lot of people don't realize that 387 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:11.279 at the time of Plato that was a very different 388 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:14.039 place called the Pillars of Hercules than they are today. 389 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:18.039 Yeah, and there's multiple Pillars of Hercules locations, according to 390 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:20.920 what George Santeitiz found, and he said, it's another reference 391 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:24.480 to the aege and c. So if you go back, 392 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:28.960 I maybe there's another map I think I have. Oh, 393 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:33.559 let's see if you can go back, you go back 394 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:38.240 to slides. I think the links on there. But this 395 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:39.319 is an interesting map. 396 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:43.000 I thought, oh yeah, yeah, I just went in a 397 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:43.920 book and make it larger. 398 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:45.039 Uh. 399 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:47.319 I know, the original map I think is at the 400 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.480 University of Minnesota. But yeah, this is a in a 401 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:53.599 I think it's in a book. Yeah, okay, but there's yeah, 402 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:57.039 it's an old photographer. Now, this is the writings of 403 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:02.440 that what's his name father, the French priests of archaeologists 404 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.599 that went to Mexico. So he's the one that started 405 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:09.240 to think that Atlantis was Central America basically, and he 406 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:11.519 thought that there was a connection with the Bible, and 407 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:14.640 he's correct, but he started to think, you know, and 408 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:16.960 there won food as the discovering new Land, and they're 409 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:18.880 discovering the minds and looking at these pyramids, they're like, 410 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.240 oh my gosh, you know, that's amazing. So he fell 411 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:23.119 in love with that culture at the time and learning 412 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.839 all about it, and he wanted to place it in 413 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:28.279 Central America or have something to do with Central America. 414 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:32.200 But in reality, that's when the Freemasons started to realize, Okay, 415 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:35.680 maybe this is not correct. So Freemasons started to really 416 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:38.279 honor Egypt more, which is why a lot of their 417 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:43.079 temples are Egyptian style, because they realized in geopolitical philosophy 418 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:47.640 or terms, that Egypt is the first true nation state, 419 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:51.440 and that's because of the typology it has that forced 420 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:54.400 it to be cohesive compared to other regions like Babylon 421 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:57.759 or in China, it took a long time to consolidate power, 422 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:01.079 but Egypt was considered the first true nation state, and 423 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:06.319 that is why the Freemasons honored Egypt so much. Because 424 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.519 Egypt was kind of like a symbol of America, like 425 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:15.839 a new atlantischools. You know, that's that's where a lotsation. 426 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:18.480 Yeah yeah, yeah, so uh. 427 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:21.519 Yeah, but I mean I can't read that as French, 428 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:23.759 but there are some translations. But this is an original 429 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:27.559 scan copy of his book that explains. But he started this, 430 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.680 this priest really, you know, he wasn't I mean, I 431 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.680 don't think the Catholic Church really supported it, but he 432 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.000 his work. At the time, they accepted it because you know, 433 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.640 they're still discovering the new world. To them, it was 434 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:42.559 all new and it was naturally the logic was, well, 435 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:46.000 this is a new lost world, this is Atlantis, because 436 00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:48.640 they were correlating to this idea that is Atlantis loss. 437 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:52.000 But when you actually read Plato, majority of Tomatoes Cortaias 438 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:56.680 is not about Atlantis. Atlantis is simply the foundation example 439 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.880 used for a broader cosmological understanding of the universe to 440 00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:04.799 fit to a geopolitical allegory. That's where it gets a 441 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:05.839 little confusing. 442 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.680 Right, He's talking more about the ideal state, and there's 443 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.759 this angle that keeps popping up, is the city state 444 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:16.680 versus the nation state, and those were the. 445 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:20.119 Greeks hadn't really yeah, because the Greeks didn't really have 446 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:22.759 a nation state, they had city states, but when they 447 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.640 went to Egypt, there was the first nation state they 448 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:28.720 encountered was Egypt. So then they were starting to question 449 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:32.200 about the whole idea of geopolitics and how you form 450 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:35.000 a state. What's the best way? Did Egyptians have the 451 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:38.440 best way? But Egyptians tend to be more authoritarian because 452 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.319 they're forced to buy agriculture, whereas in Greece it's a 453 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:46.640 more sporadicallypirse agriculture between mountains and valleys, and it wasn't 454 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.279 as unified, so it took more time for warfare to 455 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.880 unify that region by force. But in Egypt was there 456 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.319 wasn't as much warfare as like you see maybe in Babylon, 457 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.279 because Babylon didn't have a fertile plane. As Plato describes, 458 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:01.440 there was a fir tile plane. And he said on 459 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:04.000 either side of this plain there were mountains. But the 460 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:06.720 translation again from mountains may be partially wrong, but he 461 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:10.319 says they're not very high, so he's implying that you 462 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:13.119 could see across this plane. But then he says there's 463 00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:16.319 rivers through the plane. So I'm like, okay, so old 464 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.759 Brichter of Straubenheind Germany is arguing another researcher. He's saying, well, 465 00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:23.799 maybe that's referring to a river, valley or a delta, 466 00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:26.160 and that's where he kind of correlate. He didn't say 467 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:28.680 Egypt pacifically, but he was trying to leave it open 468 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.440 to Okay, okay, it must be referring to some kind 469 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:33.839 of natural typology of a river, and there's only a 470 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.119 few civilizations in the Middle East that could that could 471 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:39.039 be so, but people everybody thinks, you know, pillars of 472 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:41.400 Bercles is a stretch of Boulta, and it's correct Plato 473 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:45.559 was inferring that. But in the Timaeis or Creteus, they're 474 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.079 referring to two different types of pillars, the Aegean Sea 475 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.279 and then the Mediterranean. So the priest's decie is saying 476 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:54.119 that you Greeks are from the little Sea and we're 477 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:55.000 from the big Sea. 478 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:55.839 Okay. 479 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.240 They're trying to, like, you know, say, we're the older 480 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:02.720 civilization and you're earning about your loss history from us. 481 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:05.160 So that's why the Greeks are going to the Egyptians 482 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:09.000 to learn about their lost history or so On's potentially 483 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:10.480 we don't know if someone went to Egypt, it's not 484 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:12.440 enough records, but more likely he did. It wouldn't have 485 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:15.440 been that hard for him to travel over. But imagine 486 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:16.920 if you're a Greek, you know, at the time of 487 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.160 seven hundred BC, and you land in Egypt for the 488 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.839 first time, seeing mego withic structures and temples, you would 489 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:24.079 be shocked. It would be an Atlantean. 490 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:24.119 Kind of world. 491 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:28.119 So it sparks stories and all the trade issues in 492 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:29.599 economics and politics and then. 493 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.400 And all the major Greek thinkers had to go to 494 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:38.680 Egypt to be inducted into their mysteries. And Herodotus even 495 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.160 writes about this place. We know where it is today, 496 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.920 but they're just not willing to excavate it. It's actually 497 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.720 in a place that they it's like two football fields underground, 498 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.839 and so this underground mystery school that was talked about 499 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.799 in Herotodus was found, but they're just not excavating it. 500 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.480 So it you know, it makes me wonder about Atlantis 501 00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.319 and all the rest of this stuff, about what's actually 502 00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:04.400 being kept from us and what's actually being let out. 503 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:07.319 But I understand it. It's because there's a dam nearby 504 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.480 and the entire place is flooded, so all of this 505 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:14.240 underground chamber that they had is now completely you know, flooded. 506 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:16.519 It's a giant sewer system and they don't want to 507 00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:19.000 have to mess around with all this hydrology from the 508 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.480 dam to actually excavate. So it's frustrating. 509 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:23.640 The Oswan dam. 510 00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:25.680 Yeah, it's close to it. 511 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.480 Yeah, yeah, they have moved to some of the temples, 512 00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:30.039 but it's it does make me one if there were 513 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:35.240 a few temples they left underwater intentionally is possible, but yeah, 514 00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:37.839 I mean literally in modern days, we turned Egypt into 515 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:39.960 Atlantis by flooding that part of the region, But the 516 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.839 majority of the actual Atlantis, the island was the Delta, 517 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.559 Like that was the geopetically most important locations to the Persians, 518 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:50.440 to the Greeks, because that's where they got their their beer, 519 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:54.559 their bread, and it's shipped up by the Phoenicians into 520 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:58.519 into Greece and into the Tartessian region of Spain and Italy. 521 00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:00.880 We go back to the slides. I can kind of 522 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:01.599 explain more. 523 00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.920 I have a quick question for you. Sure, are you 524 00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:14.240 familiar with Gary Wayne at all? Like the Genesis sixth guy? 525 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:15.880 Are you familiar with him? 526 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.880 Is that the paper by the CIA on Eden. 527 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.799 No, he's like he talks a lot about what Jules, 528 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:26.920 you know who I'm talking about. 529 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:30.400 Yeah, I keep having a couple of people try to 530 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:32.359 pressure me to get him on. I need to hit 531 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:32.720 him up. 532 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.559 Yeah, he's really cool. But he talks a lot about Atlantis. 533 00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.759 And one of his theories is like Atlantis was like 534 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.839 this huge city and places like Egypt. 535 00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:48.279 And like the worldwide civilization. Right, maybe the capital that 536 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.039 the island may have been the capitol or the place 537 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:54.039 where you know they that's partly convened because there were 538 00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:58.799 twelve families I think rumored to have control of these civilizations, 539 00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:02.440 and the head of it being Atlas, right, this god Atlas, 540 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:05.480 and then like yeah. 541 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:11.039 Those places are like they're like satellite cities to Atlantis. 542 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:12.359 They're like little breakaway. 543 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:16.119 I'm glad you're here because you said it more, you 544 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.359 said it better than I did. But yeah, that's basically 545 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.079 the theory. And I think, I mean it could have legs, 546 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:21.359 you know. 547 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.039 Yeah, I think if you make the claim too big, 548 00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:30.240 it becomes unrealistic to actual archaeological records. So that's where 549 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.799 maybe he might have too much of a New Age perspective, 550 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.799 and he makes the story bigger than it really is. 551 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:38.720 And that's what that priest did, and you know it 552 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.160 was ignacious Dolly and that priest and eventually Graham Hackle Randam, 553 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:44.640 they're just they're making the story so much bigger than 554 00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:48.640 it really is. In reality, it all goes back to 555 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.799 the origins of geopolitics and the origins of agriculture and history. 556 00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.160 It doesn't have anything to do with the new world 557 00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.880 of Central America or South America. So I wouldn't broad 558 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.160 that much because we would have abundance amounts of evidence 559 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.839 of that. If you're making such a massive claim. I 560 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:06.920 don't know who this guy is, but some like you know, 561 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:09.680 Exact Rights, Citenary Front Tank, and they make these stories 562 00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:11.680 so much bigger than it really is. And I think 563 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.119 that's that's called the historians fallacy, where we're trying to 564 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.599 paint our globalistic worldview to this law civilization, but in reality, 565 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:21.400 you know, we would we would have found that evidence 566 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.039 by now and wouldn't be you know, spear points and 567 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:27.400 a few arrowheads. It would be very clear, you know, 568 00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:32.960 steel swords, petrified in stone or foundation stones or granite slabs, 569 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.119 because you know, if you go to corporate buildings today, 570 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.440 that a lot of them have lots of slate of 571 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.079 granted everywhere for their buildings and their fancy lawyer offices, 572 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.880 and you would find that stuff. It would be buried 573 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.119 over time, and when it's buried, is actually preserved compared to. 574 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.759 The So how much we agree and disagree with the 575 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.200 exact same time. So I'm fully on board with the 576 00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:57.319 idea that there could be this Egyptian Atlantis idea, Right, 577 00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:59.799 I think that's that's definitely a possibility. But at the 578 00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:03.759 same time, I look at all of the Ogum text 579 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.759 and all the rest of these Dolmans in North America 580 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.279 and these other things, and I'm like, well, this kind 581 00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:11.759 of seems a little bit Atlantis too. I think there's 582 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.000 probably a lot of different, uh you know, combinations or 583 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.960 recombinations of how people went back and forth across the 584 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.240 Atlantic that maybe didn't get recorded and didn't have much 585 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:22.799 to do with Tommais and Critias. 586 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:28.000 That's where I'm stretching the story away from the primary source, 587 00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:31.480 which is Plato in his Topaus Critis and the Republic. See, 588 00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.000 we can't take Atlantis out of the context of the 589 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:38.440 work of the Republic, which is completely about which civilization, 590 00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:44.279 the Persians, and which civilization built round cities? The Persians. 591 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:46.359 They have two of them. You can see them from 592 00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:50.440 satellite view. One's called derabogerd On, one's called Gore. So 593 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:54.640 is there a possible conflation that Plato is taking Persian 594 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.160 motifs and infusing that with Egyptian motifs and possibly hit 595 00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:01.279 type because he's just space. He's saying anything that's not 596 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.960 Europa is Atlantis. So that's why the Atlas Mountains are 597 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:10.759 named Atlantis. That's why Atlantia sometimes is referred to the 598 00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.000 Romans as Ethiopia. So Jimmy is right to put it 599 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:18.279 back in Africa. But we want to make the story bigger. 600 00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:18.720 Now. 601 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.519 There might be other civilizations that are lost, but they 602 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.559 have nothing to really do with Plato's Atlantis. Like you know, 603 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.480 gobecuy Tepe is very close, you know, to Greece in 604 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.359 some sense, but Plato had no idea of that civilization. 605 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.839 He didn't care about that. What he cared about is 606 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.319 the brown people conquering the white people. Because the hit 607 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.240 Tipes and the Assyrians and the Egyptians were the big 608 00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:44.000 empires of the time and they were starting to expand 609 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:48.519 up into Greece, So this was the proto Hellenes would 610 00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.279 have been the Mysonians, and actually the Mycenians probably would 611 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:53.920 have been darker skinned, a little bit more tan Mediterranean 612 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.839 at that time, because the Mycenians mixed with the Minoans, 613 00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.240 and the Minoans definitely traded with the Egyptians. And there's 614 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.279 one well, I kind of follow my slides here here 615 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:06.240 we actually you can go to the next slide so 616 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.559 I can get a burying where I'm at. So yeah, 617 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.039 So basically it's just makes logical sense to ask the question. 618 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.000 You know, if Plato says that Atlantis stretches from Libya 619 00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:22.039 to Asia, and he says it's it's bigger than that, 620 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.440 he's referring to this vast continent, and that vast continent 621 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.400 has to be Africa and Asia or specifically the Middle East, 622 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:36.079 because he's talking about a war he's emphasizing. And in Freemasonry, 623 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.039 there's a lot of kind of you know, understanding of 624 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.759 the kind of the political worldview, but also spiritual mixed 625 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.079 and so the Freemasons and the Vatican and the Persians, 626 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.799 in the ancient Greeks, they all honored Egypt because Egypt 627 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.000 came first before anyone else when it comes to the 628 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.880 first true nation state. So you know, like you know, 629 00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.119 HARRIEUS Truman was a thirty third degree Freemason, I believe 630 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.559 he was. And you know, you probably understood that it 631 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:03.720 has something to do with Egypt. And that's why you 632 00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:06.960 have an obelisk in this center of Washington, d C. 633 00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:10.239 And why a lot of Freemason temples are inspired by 634 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.280 Egyptian architecture because they were the first architects. They were 635 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.360 the first nation state, the political entity that unified first 636 00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.159 before Babylon. It wasn't until Sargon of a Cod came 637 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:25.599 and forced unification and developed the Acadian civilization. So when 638 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.400 people say, oh, the Garden of Eden super, no, that 639 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.480 super was no paradise. It was a hellhole ten degrees 640 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.559 hotter on average in Egypt, not a Mediterranean climate. There's 641 00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:38.320 no black soil to create enough fertility for ag culture, 642 00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:41.280 and there's no monumental architecture at the level of Egypt. 643 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.480 So it's so stupid that even jobbles kind of latch 644 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:48.000 onto that. But that's just a misconception because over time, 645 00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:50.280 when they first discovered and learned about the Muslim world, 646 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.159 you know, they're confusing some of the Muslim writings with 647 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.679 the Biblical texts, and they didn't have all the Biblical texts, 648 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.960 so they start thinking, well, you know, maybe it's literally 649 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:02.039 Babylon over here. But over time place names changed. There 650 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:06.039 was a place called Babylon Fortress in Cairo, but also 651 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.239 Babylon in Iraq. And there's the Gihon River was sometimes 652 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.880 associated with the Nile. But then there's Land of kush 653 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.679 Can be Ethiopia, but also in Iran. So it gets 654 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:18.119 confusing because these place things are being recycled over and over. 655 00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:20.719 That's why it's confused about Well, one thing, we know 656 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.679 for sure it's not Easter Island, as Dandity Dunker might 657 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:26.559 arch you has nothing to do with that because Plaosa's elephants. 658 00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:32.840 Well, there was a species of elephant that went extinct 659 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:36.039 with the end of the Carthaginian Empire that was in 660 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.199 North Africa. So they have all one. Yeah, yeah, a 661 00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:41.960 smaller version. That's what they took across the Alps. 662 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.639 And they got those from Africa. There's a small speed 663 00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.480 scent not small, yeah, relatively small to the main elephants 664 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.079 in Sub Sahara, Africa. But there was a North African elephant, 665 00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:55.199 and the Egyptians basically killed them all for used them 666 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.880 in warfare or made for labor as well, So that's 667 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.719 not other question. But they were a hindrance to the agriculture, 668 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.159 so Egyptians basically wipe them out, and then the Romans 669 00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.519 eventually too, but they used them for eventually into circuses 670 00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.159 and things like that and for display. But yeah, they 671 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.679 were They got up to I think islands near Greece 672 00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:15.559 or Crete and spread up into Rome. So there were 673 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.000 these elephants. So when Playto speaks about that, they did 674 00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.480 exist at the time in that region. They got them 675 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:22.079 through trade from Egypt. 676 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:28.519 So they're fucking elephant killers. That saddens meant. 677 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.960 Stopping crops, but they're so cute. 678 00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:38.760 Listen, are you saying Egypt could be Atlantis? Like that's 679 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.519 the misconception is like they read they they came up 680 00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.679 with this name Atlantis, but really they were describing Egypt. 681 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:50.719 Is that like the takeaway here? That's what when when 682 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.880 some of the dialogues in Plato's speak they say, oh, 683 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.480 you Socrates always make up stories about Egypt. There's some 684 00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.400 phrase like that, because that's exactly a Platos dude, Plato 685 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.159 is taking socrates ideas and making up a story about Egypt. 686 00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:08.119 He's basically using Egypt as an allegory but putting a 687 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:13.000 good spin on it against the other Atlanteans. And there's 688 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:17.440 another Atlanteans that everyone forgets, and it's associated to the war, 689 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:22.519 and it's not the Egyptians, it's the Hittites, Turkey Anatolia. 690 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.960 So again that's why I say Plato says across the sea, 691 00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:29.800 so across the Greek world, either through the gen c 692 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.400 or all the way down to Egypt and Palestine, that 693 00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.920 region was another world to them, completely different typologies. That 694 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.119 was the Atlantean old world. So when Plato speaks about 695 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.360 the khaliplist in the Republic, he's speaking about the future 696 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.719 new world of the Greek world and using democracy, well 697 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:52.159 semi democracy, but they all women to vote, but they're 698 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:56.039 debating about whether it keep that monarchic system or democracy. 699 00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.119 And there's a divide. And when Plato's writing the story, 700 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.960 he's keeping in con of the Persian wars. So to 701 00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:07.719 the to Plato, Persia is the neo Atlanteans. Hence why 702 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.639 there's round cities. So there actually are one mile diameter 703 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:14.360 long palace round cities that are completely wiped out over 704 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:18.119 time by Alexander the Great and other wars. And he's 705 00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:20.559 associated with the Persian world order and Egypt is a 706 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.639 part of that. But he wants to put a good 707 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:24.480 spin sort of on Egypt because they want to make 708 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.199 an alliance of Egypt against the Persians. And he's talking 709 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:31.039 about older warters, saying, hey, we can beat back the 710 00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.320 Persians because we did it before, and the Egyptian said, 711 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:35.639 we did it before, and that old war was with 712 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:39.719 the Hittites. Now we can. I'll show you my sources 713 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.039 on that. We can go next slide and I can 714 00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:42.360 explain where I get that from. 715 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:49.880 Did you watch Black Panther Part two? No, by any chance, 716 00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:52.360 I was just gonna say they put a lot of 717 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.719 shit in the Marvel movies. Obviously a lot of people 718 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.079 know about that, but they made it seem like and 719 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.719 also like Aqua Man right with Atlantis, like it still 720 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.000 exists and it's all sunk in and shit, so you 721 00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.159 don't believe any of that stuff, like it's somewhere so 722 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:10.599 far as. 723 00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:14.079 Each of us have ruins underwater. And now maybe they 724 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.840 don't go back to the time of the actual date 725 00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.800 of the century eruption, which is one thousand, six hundred BC. 726 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.320 And if you take away the nine thousand and use 727 00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.119 the nine hundred date, which is what these authors are 728 00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:30.039 all arguing. And so these researchers are basically saying, it 729 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.079 doesn't make logical sense if they say that proto Athenians existed, 730 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.320 who could that be? It must be the mace Andeans 731 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.400 and they And once in the nineteen fifties we learned 732 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.719 about the Santorini eruption, we realized that the center in 733 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:44.239 eruption was a big, major event. It was not just 734 00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.199 your normal volcano eruption. It was actually a super massive 735 00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.760 volcano going boom with two thousand mega tons Castle Bravos 736 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.920 fifty ton fifty megatons. 737 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:56.360 So John G. 738 00:39:56.480 --> 00:40:01.400 Bennett and Jayquin Griffiths and Ryan's Carpenter, they're all saying 739 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.400 it has to do with Sanerini. But what's confusing is 740 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:09.199 they thought this associated Atlantis is the Minoans. No, and 741 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.519 Plato is clear that it's across the Atlantic Sea, and 742 00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:16.920 the original Atlantic Sea, or to George Sarantigis and others, 743 00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.880 is the Mediterranean. It's not the Atlantic Ocean. Because you 744 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.760 got to rotate that map and the way the Greeks 745 00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.039 are looking at the world, as they're saying, across the sea, 746 00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:29.800 there's this paradise island filled with elephants, and Plato says 747 00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:33.199 it doesn't rain, and there's monumental architecture and all that. 748 00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:38.599 So he's using Egypt as that island within the larger continent. 749 00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.800 Everybody forgets about the ten thousand. So in four oh 750 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:46.679 one BC you have this group of ten thousand mercenaries 751 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:49.719 who were hired by a Persian prince to go invade 752 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.480 the land of Summer, and this is where they find 753 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:56.079 out about all of these really ancient structures that they 754 00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:59.480 didn't know existed. So there was a whole civilization over 755 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.280 to the east of them that they had just discovered. 756 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:04.440 This is one of the reasons that, uh, you know, 757 00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.159 Alexander the Great went as far east as he did 758 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.039 is because he was reading the stories of the ten 759 00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:12.119 thousand and he wanted to find out what was actually 760 00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:14.320 happening in the ancient world, because this was far more 761 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.960 ancient than what they had, so a lot of that 762 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:17.960 stuff really did. 763 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.400 Yeah, it ultimately is related to the Persians, because the 764 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:28.000 Persians are the real Aryans, the original neo Atlanteans. I 765 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.480 guess in some sense that some of these authors would argue, 766 00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:34.760 but like the main author, Jay Guin Griffiths, he's looking 767 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.639 at the actual descriptive details in Tamaeus and Critaeus and 768 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:42.119 he's realizing that there are certain descriptives like he noticed 769 00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:46.360 that I misspoke a little bit on Mike and Dave's podcast, 770 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:48.400 but it was actually ja gu and Griffiths that argue 771 00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:51.599 that Plato's leaving some things out. He's not mentioned certain 772 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:56.400 things like the coconut, so there's no coconut. But he 773 00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:59.360 does mention that there are like palm trees, and there's 774 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.840 legome and cereals and certain other He says there's a 775 00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:08.159 lot bents of agriculture, flat plane elongated. So all these 776 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.000 other descriptives seem to be alluding to Egypt, especially when 777 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:14.920 he says it doesn't rain in Atlantis, only in the 778 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.960 winter times. So that clearly puts it back to North 779 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.639 Africa because people think that, oh, it never rains in Egypt. No, 780 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.119 it does rain in Egypt. So that's where you know 781 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.519 Ran Across or Graham Hancock and Robert Viola might be 782 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:29.320 gaining things wrong because they say, oh, there's no rain 783 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.320 on the Sphinx. Now it's rained. Egypt just had a 784 00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:34.519 flood back in like twenty twenty or twenty twenty three, 785 00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:36.280 I think it was. It was like three inches of 786 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.679 rain in like one hour. So they do get erosion. 787 00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:44.000 So there's clear evidence of Mediterranean medicanes coming in once 788 00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.519 in a while. I mean there's one that killed twenty 789 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:47.840 thousand people like three years ago that it was in Libya. 790 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.599 That's because of a flash flood. So it does rain 791 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.199 in Egypt, just not as often, mostly in the wintertime. 792 00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:56.920 So Plato says that detail and he knows he says 793 00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.320 that detail is like, okay, this has to do with 794 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.679 something with North Africa, because he says, this island of 795 00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.960 Atlantis faces the sea. So Plato's trying to describe a delta. 796 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:12.280 It's literally facing the sea, and there's a shoal of mud. 797 00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:14.239 There was liqual. Fact he can say, we're legal faction 798 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.639 be saying Atlantis was sinking. So if there's a massive 799 00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.760 earthquake caused by a supermassive volcano or tsunami, a combination 800 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:26.000 of multiple things, then yeah, the delta would sink and 801 00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.599 there will be mud in the way. And we see 802 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.880 very ruin underwater in Egypt. 803 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.559 Right, and you could even see again. Back to Alexander 804 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.000 the Great, where did he make his city is right 805 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:41.079 at the end of the Egyptian delta. You know, he's 806 00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:44.960 thinking about the same sort of Atlantis type idea. That's 807 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:46.960 why he's picking that area. And he's the one who 808 00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.559 surveyed it and created the outlook or the outlay for 809 00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.039 the city before it was even built, so there was 810 00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:55.000 a lot of influence. 811 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.519 That's the confusion. If you go to the next slide, 812 00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:02.199 the confusion is between three skins. Plato gives us one scale, 813 00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:06.119 the continent. The second scale is the island in a continent, 814 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.480 which is a little weird, and then he says the 815 00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:13.559 city state. The question is is he conflating the Persian cities, 816 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.960 assuming they're just as old as Egypt, with Egypt, because 817 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.239 sometimes they believe that Egypt was like kind of like 818 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:21.480 the Persians, they were a big empire, and maybe the 819 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:23.679 Egyptians kind of lied and said, oh, yeah, we were 820 00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.559 a big empire. We conquered those Hittites and those persons. 821 00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.000 They could have been lying because there's a legend of 822 00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.079 Cisus Stress and cis Striss was a Pharaoh to believe 823 00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.280 that conquered Anatolia, because if you look at you know, 824 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.960 Hittite architecture and styles, it's clearly influenced by Egypt. The 825 00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.159 styles and the rulership system is modeled off of Egypt 826 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.840 and their influences that because they were trading and eventually 827 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:50.480 they were even exchanging you know, princes and princesses and 828 00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:52.920 having treaties, and eventually they had war at the Battle 829 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:56.400 of Cadesh. So to the Greeks, yeah, they're conflating a 830 00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:59.079 few other regions in the Middle East with round states. 831 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.920 But it's possible, well, there was a round lost city 832 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.199 state in Egypt, because the Egyptian hieroglyphic city is a 833 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.840 circle with an X, so it's possible Egypt may have 834 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.119 once had a round city at the capitol of Heliopolis, 835 00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:16.239 but it's been so recycled over and over. You know, 836 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:19.440 with Cairo modern day Caro being built on top, it 837 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.760 would be almost impossible to find it because you've got 838 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:23.840 a whole city on top of it. Because Egypt's been 839 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:27.639 so recycled, because the density of the region is so dense, 840 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.719 and that's why we call it this garden paradise. The 841 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:35.159 original Garden of Eden. So Plato's Atlantis is basically one 842 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:37.480 and the same with the story of the Garden of Eden. 843 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.320 He's probably beating Ugarytic texts or something, and he's putting 844 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:44.599 his own spin on it for political reasons. 845 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.639 Right, And that Yugoretic text was the unification of Hittite 846 00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:51.159 culture and Egyptian culture, because they were right there on 847 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.599 that borderline, and they took all of those elements from 848 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:56.679 both into their mythology and into their architecture and all 849 00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:58.559 the rest of that stuff as well, and they played 850 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.639 a huge role in before of the Canaanite Phoenicians later on. 851 00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:05.039 So you know, you've got all of these different influences 852 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:09.400 creating this milieu, and especially in Egypt. It was recycled 853 00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.079 by the Greeks later on because they were obsessed with Egypt. 854 00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.639 That's one of the reasons why Alexander went down there, 855 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.400 and why is generals occupied that place is the Ptolemy's 856 00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:19.280 for hundreds of years after. 857 00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.480 So they needed the wheat is the main thing they needed. 858 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.400 You know, if you've got the origins of agriculture established 859 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:29.000 in Egypt, you know Greece didn't produce as much agriculture 860 00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:33.119 until their empire expanded. But yeah, that's where like the 861 00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.039 Persians conquered Egypt because they wanted their agriculture, because that 862 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.320 was literally a guard in paradise. So when Plato spent 863 00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.559 emphasized about in the Tomatos, this this lush you know, 864 00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:44.360 paradise and these allotments and they're ruled by twelve kingdoms, 865 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:47.159 which is a reference most likely to the no marks 866 00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.599 of Egypt where you have a governorship, which is why 867 00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:51.599 the Freemasons kind of honored Egypt because you have like 868 00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.679 there's the governor regions and then there's one president, one 869 00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.440 pharaoh that rules them all and they're not allowed to 870 00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:01.400 war with each other. It was actually it was when 871 00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:04.480 they became too avarice in their power and they wanted 872 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:08.639 to expand. So this is where maybe Plato or solon 873 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:11.559 and is conflating the hit Tites with the Egyptians because 874 00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:13.599 they're basically say, oh, they're one and the same, and 875 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.519 they're not really, but they were influenced by Egypt, sure, 876 00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:21.480 But that's where the point is. You know, they're conflating 877 00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.039 that because of the Persians, because the Persians did occupy 878 00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.920 of Egypt and the Hittites, so they're saying that there 879 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.760 was an older Atlantic kingdom before the Persians, and that's 880 00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:35.960 a reference more likely to the Trojan Wars. That's the 881 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:37.679 war that it was inferring upon. 882 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:41.719 In Homer prior to the Bronze Age collapse. The Bronze 883 00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:44.599 Age collapse wiped out the memory of the ancient world, 884 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.719 and that's what they were constantly trying to get back. 885 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.119 Is that memory before the bronzege collapse. 886 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:51.960 Yeah, there was a Yeah, there was a lapse of 887 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.960 time and Greek civilization, though not much was really going on. 888 00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:58.840 It was slow progression until they recovered after the Santorini eruption, 889 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.719 so one thousand six hundre boom, the war stops. So basically, 890 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.039 Plato's implying that both sides were destroyed in this war, 891 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.000 the Greeks and the hit Tips and the Egyptians are 892 00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:11.599 telling it the story as a sort of an outside perspective, 893 00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:14.800 although in the next paragraph, this is where it's confusing, 894 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.559 because Plato's saying first the island of Atlantis, and then 895 00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.039 he jumps to talk about the war, so people would think, oh, well, 896 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.199 it was the people from the island that are the 897 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.079 ones causing the war. No, that's not actually what the 898 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.760 Tomato critics is saying. It's just there's a paragraph change 899 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.079 and he's just talking about a different region now. So 900 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:34.280 Plato's scaling out now, and that's the problem because you know, 901 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:36.800 back in those days they have a good sense of 902 00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.360 location and bearing. So if Platos first starts at this 903 00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:42.679 large scale continent, then the island, then the city state, 904 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.760 and conflating that the war with maybe being Egypt too, 905 00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:49.039 because the Egyptians might want to take credits saying yeah, 906 00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.559 those hit tights, they were part of our civilization, because 907 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.760 that goes back to legend of cis Striss. 908 00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.880 In a way, it's so important for people to remember 909 00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.760 the esoteric nature of this. He's binding a bunch of 910 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.719 locations and a bunch of different data to paint a 911 00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:07.440 picture of what he's trying to get across as the 912 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:09.760 political message behind the piece that he's writing. 913 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:14.519 Yeah, and there's more likely it's the biblical stories, well 914 00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.239 not you know, modern day Bibles, but the actual scrolls 915 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:20.920 of ancient times from the Hebrews, from the Zoroastrians and 916 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.079 the Babylonians, you know, in the Hindus as well, pe 917 00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:27.360 simply in Pakistan, Indos Valley when they talk with dark 918 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.599 Kalie Age, it is a reference to an actual event 919 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.719 that happened, because people think the super mass volcano, Oh, 920 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.000 it's just that local region, but no, it would have 921 00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:39.079 a climactic effect over the whole planet, just as the 922 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:41.880 Mount Tambora had effect like in the eighteen hundreds. It 923 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:45.760 would cause more rain events on rivers more, you know, 924 00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:48.719 it might make things cooler for about one or two years. 925 00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:52.199 Temperature could drop at culture starts to die off in Europe, 926 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.199 so people start floating down and that's where you get 927 00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.280 the Indo Arians. They start moving south. So something happened 928 00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:59.559 in the Indos Valley that forced the migration from the 929 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:03.280 ox civilization down into India. And that's so where you 930 00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:05.519 get the so called reference to Indo Ariyans. But it's 931 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:10.079 really the Oxas civilization that gave birth to the Iranians 932 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:13.719 and eventually moved down into the vegan cultures to established that. 933 00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.639 Now Indians, you know, they obviously are a little nationalistics, 934 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:19.400 so they have debates about that. They don't like the 935 00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:21.480 idea that it was the Oxs civilization came down. But 936 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:25.199 the record, archaeological record shows that Mohendro Daro and other 937 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:28.840 cities in Pakistan. They just kind of collapsed right around 938 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.360 year one thousand, seven hundred to one thousand, six hundred PC, 939 00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.000 and that happens to be around the Centerini eruption, So 940 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.400 something may have caused a climactic shift that shifts the 941 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:40.559 geoputical chessboard. 942 00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:45.960 It also hit the Mesopotamian region really hard too. This 943 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:47.559 is you know, a major. 944 00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:49.760 Right, Yeah. 945 00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:51.880 So that's where the biblical stories come in. So people 946 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.159 think the flood story is separate from the Garden of Edenstor, 947 00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:58.239 but in reality they're the same. They're just separated by 948 00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:02.199 different scribes are trying to maybe make it more simplistic, 949 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.360 to make it more allegorical or more details. So it 950 00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.280 wasn't until the Acadian periods that these records start coming 951 00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:12.880 out and it shows from the airdo story. We can 952 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.679 actually date the actual artifacts and we can launch we say, well, 953 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.480 if that tablet is actually dated to around one thousand, 954 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.159 six hundred BC, they might have wrote that story, you know, 955 00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.559 a few fifty years or maybe twenty years after the event. 956 00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:32.760 Same thing with the Mahama. All these stories were written 957 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:36.360 after the Centornianus event. There's we can carbon date all 958 00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.800 this stuff, and they're all dating after that. They're not 959 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.440 dating older. But people think that the Bible story the Genesis, 960 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.400 oh that's two thousand BC, the flood happened. No, the 961 00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:49.519 oldest evidence that dates to these tablets are no older 962 00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.360 than one thousand, six hundred BC, and the maximum date 963 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.400 for the centurion in eruption is one thousand and seven 964 00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:58.559 hundred BC. So some I think something happened in the 965 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:01.800 Mediterranean region because the Priests of Science is saying the 966 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.119 destruction happened in the homeland of the Greeks. You Greeks 967 00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:08.519 were destroyed and you lost your history basically, But the 968 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.440 Nile we recovered faster, and naturally the most powerful civilization 969 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.079 at the time would recover faster and would not be destroyed. 970 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:18.119 So the logic that, oh, and advance civilization would get 971 00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:22.639 destroyed and be completely wiped out is illogical because it 972 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.480 would be harder to erode a civilization that loses more 973 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:27.519 shit compared to a small civilization. 974 00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:32.840 Right, and they had the food, they had the floods, 975 00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:35.199 They had the food, and that was the most important 976 00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.320 part in building back whatever civilization they had, So I 977 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:41.559 mean that was the bread basket of all of the Mediterranean, 978 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:45.519 kate Go ignored as this powerful force in that civilization, 979 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.920 as well as a powerful spiritual force in all these 980 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:48.960 different regions as well. 981 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.000 Yeah, and I think there's definitely a connection. As these 982 00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:55.800 other authors I showed, they all say that there must 983 00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:58.599 be some connection back to the Biblical record. So Plato 984 00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:02.480 is basically taking these Mesopotamian stories and Egyptian stories, because 985 00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.719 Egypt has records of a massive rainy evet called it 986 00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.519 in the Tempestila, and they've dated that to around one thousand, 987 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:12.760 five hundred and fifty BC, so pretty close to the date. 988 00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:15.360 And when you actually take the translation of the nine 989 00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:19.079 hundred year hypothesis, it puts that to around one thousand, 990 00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:21.440 five hundred and fifty BC. Now give or take a 991 00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:23.679 margin of air of maybe fifty to one hundred years. 992 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.119 So I'm open to the possibility that there are some 993 00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:28.280 carbon dates that are slightly off by may fifty to 994 00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.159 one hundred years, because we do have like the Dixon 995 00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:33.639 relic in the Pyramid that is dated to three thousand 996 00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.280 over three thousand BC. Now, they said, well, maybe that's 997 00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:39.559 very old wood possibility, but I highly doubt they probably 998 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:41.440 took the wood from a branch more likely, which the 999 00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:43.079 branch will be younger than the center core of a 1000 00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:48.280 tree or Yeah, so it's possible there are margin of errors. 1001 00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.039 I'm not ruining that. I can't jump to what random 1002 00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:54.559 Cars and Graham Hancocks say, because we need the swords. Okay, 1003 00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.920 we have dinosaur bones. Where are the swords? Okay, we 1004 00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:01.280 got stuff that's very old and present served. We should 1005 00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:05.920 have petrified artifacts as something Roy hold, but there's nothing. Well, yeah, 1006 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:07.679 I see, we have found that's very. 1007 00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:11.480 That could go to a lot of chandlers. That could 1008 00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:13.159 go back to a lot of chandelers. So if you 1009 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:17.639 look at the channeling of the Sleeping profit what's his name, 1010 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:21.760 I keep forgetting his name, Caser. Yeah, when he talks 1011 00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:27.280 about Atlantis, he's talking about a different type of technology altogether, 1012 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.639 sort of like a crystal and technology necessarily more advanced 1013 00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:35.199 in terms of uh, you know, weapons and armor and 1014 00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:36.920 all the rest of this stuff. He's thinking more of 1015 00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:40.840 like crystallography or some kind of resonant technology. And we 1016 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.400 see in all of these doors different structures, right right, 1017 00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:49.880 You see these different type of spiritual focuses on megalithic 1018 00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.400 sites as opposed to having you know, the best swords 1019 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:55.920 and the best weapons, and you know, it's it's more 1020 00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:59.119 of a shift away from that, more towards the interior 1021 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:00.599 world as opposed to the exterior. 1022 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:04.320 But again, Edgar Casey is being influenced by the old 1023 00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.039 occultic age in the eighteen hundreds, you know, or even 1024 00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:10.880 before that, by that one priest and ignacious Donnelly and 1025 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:15.440 their their worldview was so fixated on the Americas, and 1026 00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:18.599 Edgar Casey's making the story bigger really is. It's more 1027 00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.400 of a spiritual allegory for him. And I think you 1028 00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:26.039 mentioned like flying cars. I don't think Atlantis had that. No, again, 1029 00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.880 that's the concept idea of Atlantis, and that's because you know, 1030 00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.760 I think the occult was in eighteen hundreds really wanted 1031 00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.920 to make Atlantis bigger than it really was, because they're 1032 00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:36.920 trying to make some sense sense of the world at 1033 00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:41.480 the time. Because Casey, she was still being born sort. 1034 00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:43.960 Of, he was. 1035 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.119 He was actually saying that they were not as advanced 1036 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.400 as all the rest of the more flowery authors have 1037 00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:51.360 put it. He just said that they had a different 1038 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.920 way of achieving some similar things without having all of 1039 00:55:55.000 --> 00:56:00.960 these flying cars. Yeah, because the flying cars, like chariots. 1040 00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:04.280 That's sort of yeah, mentioned chariots. 1041 00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:09.639 Yeah, he Plato mentions chariots, you know, he mentions, yeah, horses, 1042 00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.360 of course, he mentions. Big clue is he uses atlantisposes 1043 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:17.599 the most ferocious animal in the land. Okay, well, what 1044 00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:21.639 could that be? The hippo? The lion. More likely the 1045 00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.320 lion is what he's referring to, but he says it 1046 00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:26.840 kind of a poetic way. He's trying to basically describe 1047 00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:30.679 Africa to the Greek world that's never visited Africa for 1048 00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.079 the first time. They've never seen a lion in their life, 1049 00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.960 so it's a he's he's kind of talking. Imagine him 1050 00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:40.679 talking in you know, an amphitheater stage, and he's kind 1051 00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:44.199 of exaggerating what Socrates is saying. You know, he Socrates 1052 00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:48.679 poses crazy stories about uh Egypt's Middle East from Haradus 1053 00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:49.119 and others. 1054 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.760 There is a Middle Eastern lion. There's a Mediterranean lion 1055 00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:54.880 that used to live back in that time period that's 1056 00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:57.800 now completely as well. So it's the same situation as 1057 00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.079 the elephants, Like, there are these animals that we're talking about. 1058 00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:05.480 But we don't Barbary lion I think it was called Yeah, yeah, 1059 00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.000 so that existed, possibly even at the time of the Greeks. 1060 00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.119 But yeah, it's more likely. But the majority of those 1061 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:17.000 animals that Plato's describing, he's referencing to what the writings 1062 00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.400 of Radus is giving to him. So more than likely 1063 00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.920 it's logical. We don't know Plato used Heradus, but it's 1064 00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:24.920 logical he was probably reading Homer. He was probably reading 1065 00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:29.800 Socrates and Solon and Haradus and others, so that's where 1066 00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:32.880 he's getting his information from. And it's possibly Plato even 1067 00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:36.199 visited Egypt. Some schours say he even visited Egypt, so 1068 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:37.880 if he did, he probably was like, woh, I gotta 1069 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:40.679 tell a story. And also there was a Heliky Heliki 1070 00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:43.199 earthquake that happened in Greece, was a small earthquake but 1071 00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:44.920 killed a lot of people, might kill people he knew, 1072 00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:48.519 so that may have triggered also his story or reminded 1073 00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:51.400 him of an older story that Solon was speaking of 1074 00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:58.440 and Socrates. But again we referring to Edgar Casey's idea 1075 00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:00.800 of Atlantis. I think he's still making it bigger than 1076 00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:02.800 it really is, and I don't think it has anything 1077 00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:07.719 to do with a global civilization whatsoever now global at 1078 00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.239 the time of the Egyptians perspective, like, yeah, we are 1079 00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:12.039 the center of the world, and even to this day 1080 00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.239 they're sort of like the center of the world in. 1081 00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:18.199 Terms of chance. I just I just take it as 1082 00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:21.360 a spiritual lesson, like he's not necessarily giving us the 1083 00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:25.400 actual facts, but he's sort of spiritualizing what he sees 1084 00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:27.880 as this vision of Atlantis and all the rest of 1085 00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:30.320 the stuff as well. So it's far more spiritual than 1086 00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:32.159 it is actual factual. 1087 00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:31.880 But. 1088 00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:39.000 Political because he's using cosmological case at the end, it's 1089 00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:42.719 about politics. It's about rulership. How do you set up 1090 00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.400 a kingdom a nation state? And the Greeks are trying 1091 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:47.920 to learn from the Egyptians, so he's using the Old 1092 00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:50.239 world as an example, and the old world to them 1093 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:51.599 was the Middle East. 1094 00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.960 Well in America was the mound builders, right, and so 1095 00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.480 you have that influence with Casey as well. 1096 00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:03.440 Yeah, again, I think Casey was more influenced by us 1097 00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.280 what's his name, Ignatius Donnelly. And I think again, you 1098 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.440 can't let your nationalism or place attachment of your culture 1099 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.719 where you're living now dictate actual writings of the perspective 1100 00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.280 of played on Solon because they were just concerned about 1101 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:18.480 the Persians. Okay, the big band persons out to get them, 1102 00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.639 and they wanted to blame the Persians and the Hittites. 1103 00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:26.440 And that's that's it's always politics that's influencing stories. Even 1104 00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.840 in the biblical stories. People think, oh, I do believe 1105 00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.599 living peacefully in the garden. But in reality, if you 1106 00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:35.440 think about it, it's just it's a smaller allegory, simplistic 1107 00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:38.679 creation story to describe a larger event, and that's elaborated 1108 00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:44.079 in the Exodus. So the Exodus is just the elaborated 1109 00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:49.719 version of Genesis. They're not separated by time and space necessarily, 1110 00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:53.239 So the so called character of Moses, a character of 1111 00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:57.599 Noah may have been living at the same time. Whoever 1112 00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:01.880 they symbolized. They were probably Egyptians more likely. That's but 1113 01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:05.760 it's so fragmented because all this stuff was consolidated under 1114 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:08.800 King Davids and Solomon, and they're trying to figure out 1115 01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:11.679 who the hell all these characters are, and there's different translations, 1116 01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:13.519 and you know, they didn't have Google scholar to figure 1117 01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:15.920 it out, so they just started amalgamating it all together 1118 01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.800 and smushing it and thinking that these characters were literal 1119 01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:21.559 or they tried to piece a new creation story to 1120 01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:25.840 fit their new national identity in the Palestinian Israel region 1121 01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.119 because they wanted to break away from Egypt. Because remember 1122 01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:32.599 Egypt controlled Palestine and Hittite and the Hittites did too 1123 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:35.679 for a very long time, and the people living there 1124 01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:39.440 were always kind of had animosity against the Egyptians and 1125 01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:41.840 the Hittites because those were the two big superpowers. 1126 01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:52.360 Well, the Hittite certainly had a lot of animosity towards 1127 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:55.880 the Egyptians. They in fact inverted the Egyptian pantheon just 1128 01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:58.079 to get back at them for being, you know, sort 1129 01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.960 of slave or servant to them for so long. So 1130 01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:06.719 they had a real inversion to Egyptian theology, which I 1131 01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:08.519 think plays out again and again in the Bible. 1132 01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:13.639 Yeah, well it's ironic because the origins of basically Matheism 1133 01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:18.159 probably started in Egypt, and then it eventually it morphed 1134 01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:23.199 over time from evolving into Astrianism and eventually the Hebrew gods. 1135 01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:26.719 But again they're more tribalistic and at the time it's like, 1136 01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:28.840 you know, this is our God, our God's better than 1137 01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:32.239 your God. In reality, there is a source, and you 1138 01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:36.000 have to find where's Atlantis, where's the ritual guard of Eden? 1139 01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:39.559 And if you look at the topological and geographic and 1140 01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:43.960 geopultical origins and archaeological record, Egypt's the elephant in the room. 1141 01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:49.239 It's not sumer it's not Easter Island, it's not meso America. 1142 01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:51.480 At three about Florida. 1143 01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:58.000 In Florida, hey, man, I mean, what if you know 1144 01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:01.480 there's one time where the whole the whole world was 1145 01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:04.519 one continent, and what if it's separated, you know that 1146 01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:07.800 it fits perfectly into that gap right there in in 1147 01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:09.480 the Mediterranean. That's all I'm saying. 1148 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:11.400 I'm par Florida on that. 1149 01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:16.920 I don't think Plato was thinking that big. He was 1150 01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:19.719 concerned about the damn Persians because they want to blame 1151 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:21.719 everything on the Persians, even though in reality it might 1152 01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:24.079 have been the Myceneans that started the hit tight Trojan Wars. 1153 01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:27.440 But you know it's the victory, you know, it is 1154 01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.840 written by the by the victors. I guess I can 1155 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:31.599 go to the next slide. 1156 01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:37.679 Yeah, well in the six yeard, no question. 1157 01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:41.599 No, I don't know, man, Ireland's a bunch of bs. 1158 01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:44.679 I don't know, man, See I think there's there's stuff 1159 01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.159 that you know. I mean, I think we're not told 1160 01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:50.360 one hundred percent the truth of everything, you know, so 1161 01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:52.239 there's some things we kind of have to come to 1162 01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:53.519 our own conclusions about. 1163 01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:57.320 And uh, but it's not really hidden. It's like, you know, 1164 01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.239 people say, well, why did I learn about this in 1165 01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:02.159 high school? Because high school is supposed to be a 1166 01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:04.119 prison where they keep kids off the streets, so they 1167 01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:06.599 learn some basic back and shit. Okay, you don't learn 1168 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:09.719 real history until you get into college. So in college 1169 01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:12.400 is where I learned about these researchers. I have more 1170 01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:17.519 researchers in essays, and and now I learned that Egypt 1171 01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:21.079 literally has ruins underwater, Okay, and there's no other civilization 1172 01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:23.719 has ruins like this underwater. And sure there are only 1173 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:26.320 days to May four hundred BC. Some could be older 1174 01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:29.000 to one four hundred BC. But I bet there's a 1175 01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.719 lot more on the east coast of the Delta, probably 1176 01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:35.400 a couple hundred yards out into sea underwater, maybe under 1177 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.079 thirty or forty feet of water. I bet there's a 1178 01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:39.559 lot more ruins, and a lot more under Cairo. But 1179 01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.840 there's a big city in the way. But Egypt it's 1180 01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:47.360 the only civilization that built a giant, massive pyramids, you know, 1181 01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:50.000 and there's nothing on the planet. There's nothing else we 1182 01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:53.559 was founded by now by lightar scans or whatever, satellite 1183 01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:56.880 scans and there's nothing. Okay, Bosnian pyramid, No, that's not 1184 01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:57.519 a pyramid. 1185 01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.320 So just to give you my Herododus reference real quick, 1186 01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:06.760 so if you could add my thing to the stage, 1187 01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:09.079 I'll love pictures back up in a second. So this 1188 01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:14.400 is from the recent discovery in the Mahata expedition in 1189 01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:17.039 two thousand and eight, they use ground penetrating radar at 1190 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:20.760 the Hawara Pyramid about evidence of a massive underground structure 1191 01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:24.400 talked about in Herodidas that he says underground there's three 1192 01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.039 thousand rooms, and so they've they found it and they're 1193 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:30.800 not doing anything to excavate it. So in terms of 1194 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:34.320 like you know, cults in the origin of these things, 1195 01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:37.480 I think that's that's one of the most important sort 1196 01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:38.079 of factors. 1197 01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:41.800 But again you need to question if the translation for 1198 01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:44.880 the word three thousand is correct because again it's in English, 1199 01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:47.480 and how many times has it been translated. It could 1200 01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:50.400 have been maybe thirty rooms, it could have been three hundred. 1201 01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.960 So you have to dig a lot deeper to that 1202 01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:55.800 specific story and find out the source, like even the 1203 01:04:55.880 --> 01:05:01.800 legend of like Tartessls. Everyone thinks Tortoso Suspain, it's Italy, okay, 1204 01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:05.880 the original Tartessians. When you read details into that from 1205 01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:09.920 horazz and others, you realize there are motifs and details 1206 01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:12.360 that seem to point more to Italy because the Greeks 1207 01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:15.280 first landed in Italy before they ever landed in Spain. 1208 01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:19.679 But over time the nationalists in Spain adopted the story 1209 01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.280 and placed it in Tartuso's because there was a reference 1210 01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:24.280 to the Pillars of Parcoles. It was to Stretcher chippol 1211 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:27.360 Trebo's inside that, but they assumed it had to be 1212 01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:30.000 Spain because a bunch of nationalists in Spain wanted it 1213 01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:32.880 to be Spain. Same thing with Nazi Germany. They wanted 1214 01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:35.880 Atlantis to be, you know, associated with white people. Even 1215 01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:39.039 though Plato literally says there are elephants and it doesn't 1216 01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:42.119 rain only in the wintertime. And when he says winter, 1217 01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:44.679 you know, it's like people could go winter, it must 1218 01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:49.400 be snow. No, So there's you gotta look at these 1219 01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:51.880 other details and realize that Plato is giving us all 1220 01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:55.840 these clues. He says, the phrases like cereals and legomes. 1221 01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:58.920 He says the island faces the sea, but the word 1222 01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.400 island could be a translated for oasis. And then he 1223 01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:05.039 says it lives under the light of the sun, which 1224 01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:06.840 is a plan way of saying it's in the desert. 1225 01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:11.159 And he says there's horses, ferocious animals. He uses the 1226 01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:16.039 phrase Atlantic polagae, not Atlantic ocean. So there's different phrases 1227 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.760 for water types in Greek. An original one was Atlantic 1228 01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:24.280 Polagae or Atlantic Pelagos, and that's because there's two references 1229 01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:27.079 of sea, so that's where that confusion comes about. He 1230 01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:29.760 also references that there are twelve kings but one sovereign. 1231 01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:33.440 That's kind of like how Egypt's monarchic system was established. 1232 01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:36.480 There are main nodes of Egypt, no marks, they call them. 1233 01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:40.400 He also references the gods, and we know that Poseidon 1234 01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:44.199 has always been associated with the Atlantean world, not the 1235 01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:47.960 Greek world. The Greek world is the Hellenes to Athena, 1236 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:52.320 not related to Poseidon. Poseidon, they say, went down to 1237 01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:54.920 the land of Ethiopia and had a party or something 1238 01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:59.159 or sometimes for the Atlantia and the Roman translations, so that's. 1239 01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:01.639 Going to the well. 1240 01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:05.000 The Minoans also had interactions with Poseidon as well, who 1241 01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:08.480 gave them the white bull that ended up that ends 1242 01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:10.840 up becoming the father of the Minotaur. 1243 01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:14.840 And where do bulls come from? There were no bulls 1244 01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:19.079 in Europe in the Ice Age, right, so the origins 1245 01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:22.159 of the wars is a is a European I'm sorry, 1246 01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:25.719 is an African bull or a or not Caucasia but 1247 01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:28.480 in the Caucaus regions in Iran as well. So we 1248 01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:32.079 can figure out the migration of bulls and feel like, 1249 01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:34.440 where did the bull cult come from? It came from 1250 01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:36.719 the Middle East, because that's where the migration of bulls 1251 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:39.320 went up to. Once the Ice Age retreated, they went 1252 01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:43.119 up that way, but majority of the bull domestication happened 1253 01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:45.639 in the Middle East. Same with horses. Horses first were 1254 01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:49.400 domesticated by the Indo Ariyans in Ukraine. But when then 1255 01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:51.840 they went down to across the Black Sea into Italy, 1256 01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:55.920 I was confused Anatolia Turkey, and then it was the 1257 01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:59.320 hit Ties that really domesticated and they sold them to Egypt, 1258 01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:01.480 and then Egypt became real power once they had horses. 1259 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:05.880 So horses are a major influence on the development of 1260 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:08.360 an advanced civilization. Alcoho horse, you would not be an 1261 01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:11.000 advanced civilization. And that's why Native Americans were not able 1262 01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:14.559 to fully consolidate power fracture because they couldn't move fast 1263 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:18.640 enough and also there's too much land. So geography really 1264 01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:23.039 dictates how civilization is baked and bubbled up and mixed. 1265 01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:26.279 You looked at the way horses migrated. 1266 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:31.119 Yeah, there are two types. Well, mainly the brown horse 1267 01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:32.000 that came down to Turkey. 1268 01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:35.079 They started, well, I thought there was some that actually 1269 01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:36.720 started in South America. 1270 01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:41.199 Yeah, and yeah, the ice age ones, but they're extinct. 1271 01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.960 So these are the we can the genes of modern 1272 01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:50.239 day horses and there where they come from. I'm just saying, yeah, 1273 01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:53.520 I mean, that's a stretch because you're gonna go to 1274 01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:55.479 go in the ice stage. But Plato is saying it 1275 01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:00.239 doesn't rain, so he's referring to a desert region. And 1276 01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:03.039 again you gotta put in Plato's. 1277 01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:07.079 Perspective, maybe you're not getting much rain. It's a little small. 1278 01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.319 Okay, this is where semantics are playing. 1279 01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:14.840 Semantics prove that maybe. 1280 01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:19.800 Maybe Plato was a sadistic fuck and he made all 1281 01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:22.640 this ship up, like the fucking cities of Gold and 1282 01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:24.880 ship to make people want to go on a wild 1283 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:28.319 goose chase for this ship that never existed, just the thought. 1284 01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:31.239 But I don't necessarily know if he didn't make all 1285 01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:33.680 this ship up or like just jam a bunch of 1286 01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:36.880 like random facts together from different places he had seen 1287 01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:40.199 and was like, there's this mystical place and it's called Atlantis. 1288 01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:44.760 Is like, fuck you why because you so I don't know. 1289 01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.640 I just you know, sometimes I struggle with this stuff. 1290 01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.119 Is it really even real? I feel you? 1291 01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:54.359 For example, he says, there's monumental architecture and there's three 1292 01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.159 main types of stone used in that. There's red, white, 1293 01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:00.720 and black. Okay, what did egyptpad? It had black diarite, 1294 01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:05.479 white limestone, white albast a, red granite. So and then 1295 01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:08.800 he says, you know there was a major war. We 1296 01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:10.800 know what he's getting that. He's probably getting that from 1297 01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:13.600 Homer the Trojan War, because that was a big deal 1298 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.479 to the Greeks because of the hit tights. So he's 1299 01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:19.039 kind of he's definitely getting motifs from the Middle East 1300 01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:21.640 because he says phrases like you know there was rivers 1301 01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.439 and there's lots of canals, and these canals branch off rivers. 1302 01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:27.760 Well that's what agapad. But then he says there are 1303 01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.800 lofty mountains. Okay, well, now he's expanding the scale because 1304 01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:34.720 he's saying he's talking about the continent, so he's probably 1305 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:38.960 referring to the Atlas mountain range. So that was part 1306 01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.920 of Atlantis. So Jimmy's right to associate with North Africa. 1307 01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:45.680 It's just it's not the islands Hea. Okay, there's no 1308 01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.439 there's no obelisk and pillars or whatever. There's no monumental 1309 01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:54.039 architecture on the foundation stone, foundation bedrock of the islands Aha, 1310 01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:57.039 of the Rickat structure. So that's way out of the 1311 01:10:57.159 --> 01:11:01.199 context of where harad Is traveled. So wherever Haradus went, 1312 01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:05.479 that's what Plato's referring to, and he didn't go down 1313 01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:09.159 that far south. Now, the Nava Hanna, the navigator did 1314 01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:12.520 travel around West Africa and he went down we don't 1315 01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:14.880 know exactly how far, but probably about center of Africa 1316 01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:18.720 that he went back. So those travels may have influenced 1317 01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:21.359 Plato as well. But Plato again, if you listen to 1318 01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:24.920 Tmaths Kris, it's saying within two types of pillars inside 1319 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.399 the Big Sea, but also conquering the little Sea, and 1320 01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.039 the little sea is the Greek Sea. According to the 1321 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:31.920 two priests, there are two priests that were speaking to 1322 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:43.359 Solon we can go next life. So the basic timeline 1323 01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:46.279 I would put this out is basically at the Santorini eruption. 1324 01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:48.560 So I do have the grieve scholars that has something 1325 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:51.279 to do with Santorini. Every scar I ran across ended 1326 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:53.720 up back at this date of one thousand, six hundred PC. 1327 01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:56.279 So you've got the Atlantean world, which is the Middle 1328 01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:59.000 East basically, and then the Tartessian world, which is the 1329 01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:02.760 Roman Greek War, and that didn't start until definitely after 1330 01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:04.960 the Bronze Age collapse and the Romans really started to 1331 01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:07.920 gain a lot more power in Italy, and tartels really 1332 01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:11.600 wasn't associated to Spain right away. It was associated to 1333 01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:15.119 Italy because that's where the Greeks first colonized. Then over 1334 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:18.640 time they went to Spain. But there's conflation between that legend, 1335 01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:21.199 but that's a whole other story. So the original Lanteans, 1336 01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:25.439 they weren't white. They were probably Berber Egyptian, hit Tied 1337 01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:29.560 Iranian kind of descent a mix of tan skin or 1338 01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:32.840 brown skin, and they're from the land of the Sun. 1339 01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:35.680 You know, we're living under the sun, as Plato says, 1340 01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:39.199 and then that Bronze Age collapse happens, and then shiftings 1341 01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:42.039 start to shift. But again the logic is, it's not 1342 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:44.800 that the Greek the priest's science is saying Atlantic our 1343 01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:48.439 island was destroyed. Now he's actually saying we recovered. Even 1344 01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:51.319 though there's lots of evidence in Egypt of earthquake damage 1345 01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:55.119 everywhere on some megalithic structures, and there's a show called 1346 01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:58.960 Ancient Armageddon just kind of like as Apocalypse, but this 1347 01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:03.159 was definitely more mainstream documentary on HBO Max and Ancient Armageddon. 1348 01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.159 There are scholars and they're saying that, yeah, there's definitely evidence. 1349 01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:08.840 We're seeing that there's a lot of major earthquake damage 1350 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:11.319 in all these temples, and they could date to around 1351 01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:14.520 the Centuri eruption. The problem is they have to move 1352 01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:16.960 that Bronze Age collapse from the Early Bronze Age to 1353 01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:20.960 the Middle Bronze Age. So there's a chance that scholars 1354 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:23.520 are definitely wrong about the dates of when this happened, 1355 01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.359 and Plato may actually be right sort of but Plato 1356 01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:28.119 would put it to around one thousand, five hundred and 1357 01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.920 fifty pc if we go by the nine hundred hypothesis. 1358 01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:36.319 So that's where you got the Old World Atlanteans, which 1359 01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:38.560 were basically, you know, the biblical world where they were naked, 1360 01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:41.760 you know, they dressed more seductively in the sense, but 1361 01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.319 in Europe they had to wear more clothes because it 1362 01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:47.840 was colder on average, So there's a transition. You know, 1363 01:13:48.039 --> 01:13:51.880 as clothing developed and technology developed, the Europeans expanded. Once 1364 01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:56.319 you're written into Ukraine, there is tenfold amount of agricultural 1365 01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:59.359 land compared to what eachypt ever had. But it takes 1366 01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:01.840 a large population to be able to control all that land, 1367 01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.000 so it took a long time for the Europeans to 1368 01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:09.119 gain that temperate climate zone. But once the population grew 1369 01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:13.000 big enough, they became more powerful than Egypt the Romans. 1370 01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:18.439 And that's why Europe had a geopltical advantage compared to 1371 01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:20.920 other parts of the world because of their geography and 1372 01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:25.399 their closeness, their proxymmetry to the original Atlantis and Garden 1373 01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:30.239 of Eden, because civilizations started in the Middle East of 1374 01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:32.079 gobecuy Tepe and karin Tepe. 1375 01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:36.960 If we look at the corridor from the Turkey region 1376 01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:40.079 up into the Black Sea. We see the journeys of 1377 01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:42.880 Jason and the Argonauts going over there to get the 1378 01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:45.479 Golden Fleece, and what they found is that there was 1379 01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:49.600 a big processing center of gold over in the western 1380 01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:52.439 part or the eastern part of the Black Sea, which 1381 01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.600 is where Jason and his crew were going. So they 1382 01:14:55.720 --> 01:14:58.760 had a link not only to ancient Egypt, but all 1383 01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:01.000 the way up into the Caucasus. And we see today 1384 01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:06.760 the Russian language is based off of the Greek, you know, 1385 01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:09.920 morphology of their their alphabet, So you've got. 1386 01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:12.520 A huge Venetians originally yeah, right. 1387 01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:15.880 Through Cadmus, right, but you've got that huge Greek influence. 1388 01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:18.920 And you know, we see Eastern Orthodox Church up in 1389 01:15:19.039 --> 01:15:23.720 Russia coming through that Anatolian region, So that you know, 1390 01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:27.880 the whole connection to up there in the Black Sea 1391 01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:31.880 region and the Greeks that's less talked about than the 1392 01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:34.600 rest of the Mediterranean because they had contacted. 1393 01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:37.359 Because most of the trade was definitely coming to Turkey 1394 01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:41.199 and Egypt and the Palestinian region because that's where agriculture 1395 01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:44.399 was really being developed, was more sophisticated compared to the 1396 01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:48.000 early Greeks means seven RBC. But then eventually as they 1397 01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.000 learned that that those trades, you know, they did spread 1398 01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:55.399 up into Ukraine. Well, typically the Crimean region is probably 1399 01:15:55.399 --> 01:15:57.840 where they landed, but most of them probably were still 1400 01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:01.800 following the coastline of northern Turkey, and then some braved 1401 01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:04.159 enough went across the Black Sea. But the majority of 1402 01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:06.720 trade routes are not going up to Europe until the 1403 01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:07.880 Roman periods. 1404 01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:12.079 And metallurgy is coming through that region in DEGREECE, so 1405 01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:13.560 they've got the majority of metal. 1406 01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.439 The majority of the metal came from the Phoenicians, and 1407 01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:18.159 that came. 1408 01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:22.760 From the Middle The Greeks were the Scythians, and the 1409 01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:24.880 Scythian region is all the way up there in the 1410 01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:27.640 Black Sea Coxes regions. That's where they got a lot 1411 01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:30.279 of their mythology from is through the Cythian influence as well. 1412 01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:31.560 So they've got to. 1413 01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:39.920 Question just really quick, for Peter, uh, are we maybe 1414 01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:42.000 I'm putting the cart before the horse, but are we 1415 01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:47.600 totally just eliminating like the weird metaphysical spiritual weirdness with 1416 01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:49.039 this story, because. 1417 01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:53.439 I guess it has when you really read Plato. Plato 1418 01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:58.760 is concerned about politics, even its cosmological. 1419 01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:02.439 You think I can get on board with him, but 1420 01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:05.840 like I feel like, let's just say I'm retarded. It's 1421 01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:08.359 not hard to do. I do believe that they had 1422 01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:14.319 like fucking some extra okay, interdimensional weirdness going on, maybe 1423 01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:22.520 some spiritualism, some contacting of like some higher up motherfuckers. Yeah, 1424 01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:25.079 some shit like that like that. That's where I'm at 1425 01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:27.199 with it. I mean, I get Plato and like all 1426 01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:30.000 that stuff. He could be a horrible war in making 1427 01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:32.920 shit up too, and I could be definitely wrong. But 1428 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.840 when I think of Atlantis, even if it's Egypt or 1429 01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:39.000 like some kind of like a subsidy of Egypt or whatever, 1430 01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:44.800 all I think about is fallen angel technology communicating with 1431 01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:50.600 X extraterrestrial, interdimensional whatever type of spirits fill in the blank, 1432 01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:57.319 and like having some kind of like otherworldly technology. Like 1433 01:17:57.479 --> 01:17:59.800 you're not going to convince me they build the pyramids 1434 01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:02.479 with fucking ropes and pulleys. You're not going to convince 1435 01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:07.279 me that the the we're like slaves with whips and 1436 01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:10.439 chains and like stuff like that. Like I'm totally you'll 1437 01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:12.479 never convince me of that in a million years. 1438 01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:16.119 And so, like scultures not their own people. 1439 01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:22.000 Well, woever, I think they fucking leavitate anyways. Like like 1440 01:18:22.359 --> 01:18:25.800 if you were to say there's a spiritual aspect to this, 1441 01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:27.520 like where. 1442 01:18:28.279 --> 01:18:30.600 Let me get to slide the next slide? I think 1443 01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:31.039 I do show. 1444 01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:35.920 Okay, Okay, Howard is saying, right here, sound residents, Yeah, cimatics. 1445 01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:38.479 He plays a big role in that. 1446 01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:42.520 Actually, go to the next slide after. I'll go back 1447 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:47.159 to them later. Next one. Let's see, next one, we'll 1448 01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:49.920 go back. I can't even get to Okay, So I 1449 01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:52.720 love this painting. Okay, So this is a kind of 1450 01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:57.079 a symbolic reference by this uh, this artist trying to 1451 01:18:57.119 --> 01:19:01.520 describe the tomais and trying to describe the cosmold. So yes, 1452 01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:05.560 Plato is definitely influenced by a spiritual world. But Plato 1453 01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:09.159 had a little bit more of an atheistic perspective on 1454 01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:13.119 the cosmology. So he did believe as above so below. 1455 01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:15.840 He believed that basically the idea, you know, whatever you 1456 01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.079 bind on Earth is bound in heaven, and the gods 1457 01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:24.600 will influence geopolitics. So when the super massive volcano goes boom, 1458 01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.680 they believe possibility that the gods may have caused the 1459 01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:31.359 volcano go boom. Now, did the actual UAPs make the 1460 01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:34.119 volcano go boom? Probably not. The UAPs were probably just 1461 01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:37.880 sitting around watching. As the Bible says, they're the watchers 1462 01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:43.319 when it comes to actual supernatural interventions into history. If 1463 01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:45.920 you go back a slide, you know what. 1464 01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:50.119 I was just thinking though, like real quick, sure, wasn't 1465 01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:55.760 it like Marsilio Ficino kind of translating Plato that spurred 1466 01:19:55.840 --> 01:20:01.479 like the Renaissance kind of Yeah, you can't say that 1467 01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:03.880 motherfucker wasn't spiritual if we old renaissances. 1468 01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:07.560 Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, there's definitely influence, Like a lot 1469 01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:12.199 of Christians really give honor to Plato on the cosmology 1470 01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:15.079 God and angels and gods. 1471 01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:15.399 Yeah. 1472 01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:19.880 But again, ultimately, at the end of Tamayas, he goes 1473 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.479 back to saying all this cosmological bs, I mean not bs, 1474 01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:26.600 but you know, all this stuff about cosmology, and then 1475 01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:28.720 he go simplifies and say, well, you know, let's go 1476 01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:30.880 back to talk about war, and it's all just a 1477 01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:34.239 reference to the war because the Persians were the big 1478 01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:37.720 bad guy. They're bad, Okay, So he was he wanted 1479 01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:40.399 to take all this spiritual stuff and say we need 1480 01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:43.880 to fight against the persians basically, so you go back 1481 01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:48.399 a slide to actual understanding of supernatural entities. Go back 1482 01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:51.560 one slide, USh kind of explain. I think two slides 1483 01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:56.960 are okay, So this is where you know, this may 1484 01:20:57.039 --> 01:20:59.800 have nothing to go. I'm sorry, go back, but go forward, 1485 01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:06.880 I think, oh, go forward, I'm sorry, okay, this is 1486 01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:07.920 go back. 1487 01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:11.439 There we go. 1488 01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:13.800 Okay. So this is where this may have nothing to 1489 01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:18.159 really do in a Plato's perspective, but more of our perspective, 1490 01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:22.359 because now we do have an anthropological understanding of our past. 1491 01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:25.720 We do have understanding that there are lots of evidence 1492 01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:29.840 of hominids, dozens of bones, hundreds if not thousands, and 1493 01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:34.560 more is being found, and something did change in us, 1494 01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:38.199 and scientists are arguing in anthropologistaying there's something changed with 1495 01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:40.920 the fox speed two gene and the nova gene in 1496 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:44.279 our brain related to language, and the vocal cord lyrics 1497 01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:48.840 elongated and changing its form slightly. And then there's the 1498 01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:52.079 mutation for us to be able to handle milk for lactose, 1499 01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:54.880 and that happened around ten thousand years ago, and then 1500 01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:57.720 there's mutation of the chin. So every hominid that we 1501 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:00.319 find that you know, like Michael talks about you always 1502 01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:02.199 want to say, oh, what if these hominants were advanced, No, 1503 01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:06.960 they're archaic. We can tell clearly by the anatomy, and 1504 01:22:07.079 --> 01:22:11.479 that's it shows that there's something mutating in us. The 1505 01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:16.760 question is, can UAPs do small discrete interventions at the 1506 01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:19.920 molecular biological level. I would say as a Catholic, I 1507 01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:22.800 would not rule that out, but it can be very discrete. 1508 01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:26.479 So if evolution doesn't steer us in the right direction, 1509 01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:30.399 once in a while, maybe these UAPs will intervene at 1510 01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:33.840 the genetic level, but at a micro discrete matter that 1511 01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:36.840 we wouldn't be able to tell. And it completely shifts 1512 01:22:37.319 --> 01:22:40.399 how we evolve into an advanced civilization. So we go 1513 01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:43.720 from being in Plato's cave, not understanding the whole world 1514 01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:46.359 in the big picture as a hominid, and all of 1515 01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:49.279 a sudden at around seventy thousand years ago. So if 1516 01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:51.119 you want to say there's a lot of civilizations in 1517 01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:53.279 the past, it would have to be be have to 1518 01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:55.760 be after seventy thousand years ago, because that's when all 1519 01:22:55.760 --> 01:22:58.760 these mutations start popping up and the birth of art 1520 01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:04.079 really starts to get and hold with the or human's 1521 01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:07.119 actual modern Homo sapien sapiens going up into Europe and 1522 01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:11.039 doing paintings there and those abstract paintings. But other hominins 1523 01:23:11.159 --> 01:23:14.439 never did abstract paintings. It wasn't conceptual, It wasn't They 1524 01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:18.520 had the power of synthetic language. They had communication just 1525 01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:21.600 like a dog does some extent, but they could not speak. 1526 01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:24.760 They were physically impaired by that ability. But all of 1527 01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:27.520 a sudden, as the Bible says, you know, he blew 1528 01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:29.840 into Adam, and then Adam became a man. He had 1529 01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:32.760 the spirit of God was in the image and likeness. 1530 01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:37.640 So something definitely changed es and evolution does explain like 1531 01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:40.000 ninety percent of it, but once in a while there 1532 01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:44.279 could be these slight, abnormal mutational changes, and these UAPs 1533 01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:48.279 clearly exist. The question is how much intervention have they 1534 01:23:48.359 --> 01:23:51.399 really done in history, because again, all it took was 1535 01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:54.199 for one interdimensional being. If you want to believe Jesus 1536 01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:56.399 was one of them to intervene in the Roman Empire 1537 01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:59.560 and boom chain reaction of the whole geoplical worldview, just 1538 01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:02.079 like that, it was only thirty eight thirty three years 1539 01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.079 or less. Just a magic wizard man like Gandalf appeared 1540 01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:08.359 and boom, it changed history forever. Same thing with Mohammed. 1541 01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:11.880 Mohammad had experienced boom. It changes the whole geopolitical chessboard. 1542 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:17.159 So angels or these into the interdimensional beings may have 1543 01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:21.640 a slight hand in guiding the program or the simulation, 1544 01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:27.479 but it's not ultimately it's the cosmic god or Allah 1545 01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:30.199 or you know, as Plato describes. You know, there is 1546 01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:34.319 one cosmic god that's hidden. He is ultimately control of 1547 01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:39.439 order versus chaos, and there is this kind of trajectory 1548 01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:42.920 into orders. We see we moved from something, We moved 1549 01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:46.439 from something ugly and fearful to something beautiful and loving. 1550 01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:51.560 And that that's profound in human in the planet of 1551 01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:54.920 this history, because there's no evidence that we have buildings 1552 01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:58.399 like this. Back ten thousand years ago, we would found 1553 01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:01.479 the foundation stones of the universes. You know, they would 1554 01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:04.399 have built something like a university if they advanced at 1555 01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:07.479 our level, but we have nothing. It would not be 1556 01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:10.960 completely gone. Okay, look at Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore would 1557 01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:13.560 be there for a million years, assuming people don't blow 1558 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:17.760 it up. Or Crazy Horse Monument in South Dakota as well, 1559 01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:22.399 So we have something definitely changed the question is did 1560 01:25:22.439 --> 01:25:25.199 these UAPs have a hand. Absolutely when it comes to 1561 01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:29.039 cultural influence. They appear to people, maybe to this one 1562 01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:34.199 prophet or whatever, or they manifest physically as avatars poof 1563 01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:36.680 in and out, and they're influencing culture. And that's what 1564 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:40.119 Jacques Falle is saying. So yes, they are having intervention. 1565 01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:43.079 But Plato isn't really actually as concerned with the gods 1566 01:25:43.119 --> 01:25:45.800 as you might think. He's more of like communists if 1567 01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:48.960 you actually listen to him at times, he's a little 1568 01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:51.720 bit more atheistic, but he knows the gods exists, but 1569 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:54.840 he's taking the allegory of the gods and making allegorical 1570 01:25:54.960 --> 01:25:59.119 for geopolitical reasons because he's more concerned about politics, like 1571 01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:00.199 everybody seems to be. 1572 01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.840 Sorry, I was muted going sorry, that was a big rant. 1573 01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:18.760 So if you go back to the David Miando slide, 1574 01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:21.800 let me let me go back one more, or just 1575 01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:23.920 gonna skip around so you can go back. 1576 01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:26.079 One more. 1577 01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:30.600 I guess okay, so this is where I'm gonna call out. 1578 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.039 You know, these two archaeolo are not archaeologists but historian 1579 01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:36.960 and archaeologists. I respect doctor David Miano. Oops, what happened 1580 01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:39.840 to my Earboots and Flint Dipple to some degree. Okay, 1581 01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:42.159 I've reached out to them. Miano is aware of me, 1582 01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:45.000 but he's ignoring me. He's give me the silent treatment, 1583 01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:49.119 but he's aware and he he would probably be open 1584 01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:51.880 to the eypothsis of Egypt being an influence on Atlantis 1585 01:26:52.119 --> 01:26:54.560 because of authors or researchers like Jake Gwen Griffiths of 1586 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:58.880 Oxford University, who's the first to propose it. But he's 1587 01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:02.479 ignoring presents to his audience. He's intentionally ignoring it. He's 1588 01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:04.840 not bringing up the connection between Egypt and Hittites and 1589 01:27:04.840 --> 01:27:08.359 the Persians, which would fit with the mainstream archaeological record, 1590 01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:11.479 other than maybe shifting the Bronze Age collapse to the 1591 01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:14.720 Middle Bronze Age instead of the earlier or Late Bronze 1592 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:18.840 Age or earlier sorry get confused, like the Early Bronze 1593 01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:20.960 Age at one thousand and two hundred PC versus one 1594 01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:23.000 thousand and six hundred PC. So that's where I'm open 1595 01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:25.039 to possibility that dates are off by a few hundred 1596 01:27:25.079 --> 01:27:29.000 years at the most. But Flint Dibble and Mian are 1597 01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:32.159 so focused more on fighting back against more of the 1598 01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:35.800 New Age at perspective and not really presenting an actual 1599 01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:38.840 rational perspective on Atlantis because they are more liberal and 1600 01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:41.840 they understand that Atlantis does have connections with the Nazis, 1601 01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:44.439 and Nazis wanted to take Atlantis and make it their 1602 01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:49.560 own story. Just as Eric Vondanaka and Zacharisichen are making 1603 01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:51.880 things bigger than it really needs to be. They're trying 1604 01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:55.760 to fit to their national politics. Again, it's political. Things 1605 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:59.520 become political even in archaeology and science, and Plato was 1606 01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:01.840 very politic. He wrote the story because he hated the 1607 01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:06.319 purchase because they wiped out Athens, so naturally that he's 1608 01:28:06.399 --> 01:28:09.520 writing me story stories to figure out should we be 1609 01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:11.520 like the old world or we could be something new? 1610 01:28:12.279 --> 01:28:15.800 And I would I would tell doctor Miano and doctor 1611 01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.159 Flint Dibble that yeah, Atlantis is real, but you just 1612 01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:22.600 need to present these other researchers that you're ignoring, like 1613 01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:27.520 Jay Gwen Griffiths is probably number one, J G. Bennett, 1614 01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:31.520 old Rickter of Stupennheind, Germany, and many others. And they're 1615 01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:33.560 all mostly from Europe and they figured out this, but 1616 01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:36.000 they're in other languages and you have to find the 1617 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:38.800 English translations of their work to be able to figure 1618 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:40.920 out what they're arguing, which is a lot logical and 1619 01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:45.119 rational that even Graham Hancock is starting to shift. He say, Okay, 1620 01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:47.239 I understand Lances to me is more of a concept 1621 01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:49.640 for a lot of civilization in the Ice Age, and 1622 01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:52.000 I'm not ruin out there might be another source of 1623 01:28:52.119 --> 01:28:54.920 civilization in the Ice Age at the level of Karen 1624 01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:57.680 Teppe go Beckley Tepe, another one of those, somewhere in 1625 01:28:57.720 --> 01:29:01.000 the Middle East, or maybe even long the equator zone, 1626 01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:04.640 as Graham is arguing, is probably where that lostivilization would be. 1627 01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:07.479 I agree there's a chance of that, but today we 1628 01:29:07.720 --> 01:29:10.600 reach the level of Roman Egypt. Absolutely not. We would 1629 01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:14.479 have found those Megoithic statues at that level, but we 1630 01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:18.159 don't see that. So Randall, I'm sorry. Meano Inflant's right, 1631 01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:21.239 there is no evidence, you know, of transfer of certain 1632 01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:24.199 types of plants like apples or corn. There's no evidence 1633 01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:27.800 of glass. Glass wasn't really invented until later periods after 1634 01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.760 the Bronze Age, and there's some glass the Egyptians had 1635 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:32.720 in the hit tides, but not near at the level 1636 01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:35.520 until later periods. So glass we should be able to 1637 01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:37.600 find glass. You could break down glass, but there's still 1638 01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:40.479 be sharks and you could tell it be manufactured. We 1639 01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:43.720 have never found any glass in any burial mount ever, 1640 01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:50.279 other than natural glass like ones found in Egypt actually 1641 01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:53.399 from produced by from asteroids millions of years ago, or 1642 01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:55.239 iron like we should be able to find some kind 1643 01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:57.560 of iron pick would have survived by now. Or the 1644 01:29:57.640 --> 01:30:02.199 fact that all the oil wells are not depleted. There's 1645 01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:05.560 still bundance amounts of oil. And if you want to 1646 01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:08.840 show that oil has been depleted, you know, you have 1647 01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:11.920 to be able to say that there's like no easy 1648 01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:15.000 oil to extract, but there's plenty of easy oil, which 1649 01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:19.560 indicates that there was never any advancedivization within the past 1650 01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:24.199 thirty million years now fifty five million years ago. Now 1651 01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:26.319 we can argue there's a chance there could have been 1652 01:30:26.319 --> 01:30:31.319 a loss civization, or you know, if beyond. 1653 01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:35.319 That, out of place artifacts. So you've got in coal 1654 01:30:35.399 --> 01:30:38.359 deposits in West Virginia, they've got, you know, little trinkets 1655 01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:41.279 and metal that seems to be from a completely different 1656 01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:46.319 civilization we're talking about. I was gonna mention that years ago, Yeah, yeah. 1657 01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:51.439 Look like a sword does it look back to And 1658 01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:55.560 I would even see those pictures I've looked at the 1659 01:30:55.680 --> 01:31:00.840 pixel called pick in Texas, that general, which just to argue, 1660 01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:06.720 is petrified, and I've seen it personally, and there's different 1661 01:31:06.720 --> 01:31:09.760 types of petrification. But we need to see very clear 1662 01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:12.800 evidence for something massive, a massive clean like that, and 1663 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:15.479 the only thing we have is the place to thermal map. 1664 01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:19.399 Yeah, but I mean as a Catholic, you can understand this. 1665 01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:22.600 I mean, show me evidence of like half of the 1666 01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:24.520 ship in the Bible, right, but we all believe it. 1667 01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:27.720 That's the faith aspect of it. I mean, where's Jesus's 1668 01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:31.640 bones and like whatever. It's like, this is the faith aspect. 1669 01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:38.359 Cannot but you cannot. So it takes people like me, 1670 01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:41.119 who might be totally over the fence and crazy, and 1671 01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:43.880 people like you who are more historical, to meet in 1672 01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:45.920 the middle. And there could be truth somewhere in there. 1673 01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:52.680 I think, like Atlantis, they had like advanced technology. I 1674 01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:58.399 don't believe ins and like you know, I just I think, 1675 01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:01.039 you know, there could be multiple things that are true 1676 01:32:01.119 --> 01:32:04.520 at the same time. I don't think you have to 1677 01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:08.640 necessarily find evidence of Atlantis for it to have existed. 1678 01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:12.319 It may just have it in a different state. I 1679 01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:14.720 don't think so, because I mean, people believe it in 1680 01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:17.800 Santa Plus and ship like that, and they have no 1681 01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:18.560 evidence of that. 1682 01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:21.880 So, I mean, you wouldn't have much of a Bible 1683 01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:23.319 to go by if you don't want to, if. 1684 01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:28.520 You need influenced Plato, not the Bible. But you know 1685 01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:32.279 the ancient scrolls the Hebrews wrote, because the Hebrews carbonated 1686 01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:35.159 scrolls are right around the same time as the Greek scrolls. 1687 01:32:35.960 --> 01:32:37.600 Why because they're talking with each other. 1688 01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:40.000 It's the same thing with the dinosaurs, you know. I mean, 1689 01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:42.920 they they present to us this evidence and they draw 1690 01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:45.800 all these pictures up for us, but dinosaurs really were 1691 01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:48.920 never really mentioned, you know. I mean large lizards were mentioned, 1692 01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:56.720 Dragons more so big birds maybe right dragon, there. 1693 01:32:56.720 --> 01:33:01.239 Was no The word leviathan derives from a snake or 1694 01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:04.760 a whale. There's two debates whether it's referring to whales 1695 01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:07.000 or a snake. Because in Egypt, what do we find. 1696 01:33:07.079 --> 01:33:11.279 We literally find ancient whalebones on the surface. So when people, 1697 01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:14.119 you know, Berber tribes ran across that, they say, hey, 1698 01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:17.399 that's a Leviathan because they literally saw a giant bone 1699 01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:19.199 that's you know, fifty feet long or you know, the 1700 01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:22.560 the spine of it so that's where they're getting that 1701 01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:25.479 from the fact that we had that exposed whale bone 1702 01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:28.239 or some type of ancient whale that's like fifty years ago. 1703 01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:33.279 That's evidence many different mont or you know, ancient creatures 1704 01:33:33.319 --> 01:33:35.600 from many different cultures, but your core. 1705 01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:40.239 But the problem is you're not conflating them. Yes, because 1706 01:33:40.279 --> 01:33:46.920 the conflation is, you know, the god's avatars versus actual animals. 1707 01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:50.760 So when you say bigfoot or werewolves, do they exist Catholics? Okay, 1708 01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:54.520 real Catholics that look into this. Absolutely, Bigfoot is real, 1709 01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.840 but it's not an evolutionary creature born from nature. It's 1710 01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:01.560 just an avatar of an angel or a demon. They 1711 01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:03.920 can change from a werewolf to a bigfoot to a 1712 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.000 great instantaneously. That's the nature of the gods. This is 1713 01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:10.880 where doctor Mionnodin. People don't understand that the conservation of 1714 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:14.720 matter can be broken. That law in physics is going 1715 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:18.680 to change as UAP disclosure is revealed to people. And 1716 01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:23.119 Big Brother, the military, the Pentagon, the intelligenceies are holding 1717 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:26.119 everyone's hand right now, so they don't scare the children. 1718 01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:30.159 We are the children. So there these entities. 1719 01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:32.760 Yeah, I'm on and I'm a Christian. 1720 01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:33.159 By the way. 1721 01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:35.560 I'm just saying, sometimes you don't need evidence for shit 1722 01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:39.640 to be real. And I don't believe necessarily in dinosaurs. Okay, 1723 01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:43.199 there might have been some serpentine creature something, some ship. 1724 01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:45.279 Like that, but there's lots of bones of dinosaurs. 1725 01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:47.159 There's lots of lie you. 1726 01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:51.399 Know, were they bones of dinosaurs? I mean, you know 1727 01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:54.119 they there's talk of giants in the past, but where 1728 01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:57.479 where are the giant bones? You know, there's dragons, giants 1729 01:34:57.560 --> 01:35:01.680 people's cultures. You know, there's drag in the Chinese cultures, 1730 01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:04.119 and I mean you can say nephilim. There's giants in 1731 01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:07.760 every culture as well. They go by different names. You know, 1732 01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:11.319 you're sure, but you know you're coming atically from you know, 1733 01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:16.479 one kind of perspective, and and and and I get that, but. 1734 01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:19.119 But do you literally believe there are giants like in 1735 01:35:19.199 --> 01:35:20.840 a sense that we should be able to find a 1736 01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:22.640 twelve foot skeleton one? 1737 01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:25.760 Absolutelytons. 1738 01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:28.199 I have talked with you, I've made YouTube videos about this, 1739 01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:30.840 and uh, I don't chuck from CFAs the YouTuber that 1740 01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:33.000 die a couple of years ago. He digged into all this, 1741 01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:36.920 and yes, there are definitely legends about all Native Americans, 1742 01:35:37.039 --> 01:35:39.159 and we have archaeological evidence of some of the Americans 1743 01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:42.399 reaching about six to seven feet. That's not abnormal, really, 1744 01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:44.119 it's it's an odd of deep. But there are seven 1745 01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:47.680 feet tall people today. But in the Bible specifically, people 1746 01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:50.479 are correlating the Native American legends with the Bible and reality. 1747 01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:52.920 They're not the same. Again, you're change. You're putting the 1748 01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:55.720 locale of the Bible into the New World, which has 1749 01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:00.399 nothing to do with the Old world. Bible. Reality is 1750 01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:03.640 a reference to is a reference to the Egyptians, and. 1751 01:36:07.239 --> 01:36:09.680 Well a Bashad was a giant that they still have 1752 01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:14.680 his mound, burial mound in Israel that they go to. 1753 01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:18.600 Ashad is one, but they've got several other giants in 1754 01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:19.119 the region. 1755 01:36:19.239 --> 01:36:24.840 So it's skeletons, right, it's all over the place. Where 1756 01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:25.560 are these giants? 1757 01:36:26.279 --> 01:36:28.640 And uh, they're also recording them in the in the 1758 01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:31.720 New World. You've got George Washington that mentions pulling out 1759 01:36:31.800 --> 01:36:34.880 giant skeletons. You've got Abraham Lincoln that mentions all of 1760 01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:36.600 the giant skeletons in the mounds. 1761 01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:39.439 You've got so much of that is exaggerate over time 1762 01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:44.199 because these are newspaper says this eight feet Someone then 1763 01:36:44.439 --> 01:36:48.159 changes say, actually it was ten feet. So I someone 1764 01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:51.000 in Indiana and they couldn't get the dimensions right. They said, oh, 1765 01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:53.359 this lady saw a ten foot I'm like, is that 1766 01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:55.199 the size of the burial or is that the size 1767 01:36:55.199 --> 01:36:56.920 of the skeleton's I think it was the size of 1768 01:36:56.960 --> 01:36:57.520 the skeleton. 1769 01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:03.720 Or we could see massive displays of losing the bones 1770 01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:06.520 by the Smithsonian Institute over and over and over again. 1771 01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:12.039 Government institutions are trying well, I don't know why, but 1772 01:37:12.119 --> 01:37:13.880 I'm telling you that's what they've done. They've done it 1773 01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:15.479 over and over again. And we've got a problem in 1774 01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:20.760 Currosol right now ofiscate the bones of a giant that's 1775 01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:23.720 in a museum in Currosow right now. Because the Currosow 1776 01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:27.239 Islands had they were referred to by Magellan as the 1777 01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:30.960 Giant Islands. Now Magellan says that he met these giants 1778 01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:33.119 in person, as well as the people who go down 1779 01:37:33.159 --> 01:37:36.159 to Patagonia who said that they met giants in person too. 1780 01:37:37.359 --> 01:37:38.920 These different sources from all these. 1781 01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:42.039 Tribes that talk about. 1782 01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:46.520 Just like Fato's Atlantis, the translations may shift slightly over times, 1783 01:37:46.520 --> 01:37:47.840 so there might be misunderstanding. 1784 01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:52.640 All of these tribes were different. They didn't know each other. 1785 01:37:52.760 --> 01:37:55.520 And they talk about the proportions of the giants being 1786 01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:59.439 not that of people with gigantism. They are specifically making 1787 01:37:59.520 --> 01:38:03.159 that claim that it's different from people with gigantism, which 1788 01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:06.359 they understood. So for them to all be saying that, 1789 01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:10.079 and then watching the malfeasance of the Smithsonian Institute as 1790 01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:13.760 well as other government entities, it's really hard to conclude 1791 01:38:13.800 --> 01:38:16.319 that it's not a massive conspiracy to cover up this 1792 01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:19.680 part of us that now we know nothing about. 1793 01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:23.000 It's just the aliens and stuff. They're covering it up 1794 01:38:23.119 --> 01:38:23.880 just like the aliens. 1795 01:38:25.439 --> 01:38:26.359 They haven't tried, you know. 1796 01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:30.760 But there's no doubt that the aliens are really just 1797 01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:34.039 interdimensional beings. It's the interdimensional beings that are actually covering 1798 01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:37.359 themselves up. The Pentagon has no control over the gods. 1799 01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:40.039 If the gods want to hear just like that, they 1800 01:38:40.119 --> 01:38:42.960 could do it, but they're not. So they're being discreete sneaky, 1801 01:38:43.079 --> 01:38:45.840 in deceptive at times. So is it possible that they 1802 01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:49.680 could mutate some humans to produce a few outlier giants 1803 01:38:49.720 --> 01:38:50.560 seven to eight feet tall? 1804 01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:51.079 Sure? 1805 01:38:51.479 --> 01:38:55.079 I think there's something definitely weird in Charentepic. There's definitely 1806 01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:59.439 a reference to six fingers, eight fingers, and some with 1807 01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:01.840 four fings. I don't know what's up of that. The 1808 01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:05.960 current hypothesis is that maybe symbolizes their rank based off 1809 01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:09.560 the number of fingers. A little odd. I'm not sure yet. 1810 01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:12.840 Hopefully we find some actual writing or petroglyphs that come 1811 01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:15.359 out of go Beckwa Teppe and Karen Tape. But there's 1812 01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:19.279 something weird there, and the Bible does reference is polydactylism, 1813 01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:23.279 so there, but it's the question is is there's some 1814 01:39:23.479 --> 01:39:26.399 tradition being passed down from Kiren Teppe go Beckue Tepe 1815 01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:30.000 into the biblical reference with the reference of polydactism. Possibly. 1816 01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:33.199 I wouldn't rule out the possibility that UAPs could mutate 1817 01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:36.680 a few humans, but it would just be some outliers, 1818 01:39:36.880 --> 01:39:39.079 a mutation born and then it dies. But it's not 1819 01:39:39.279 --> 01:39:43.000 persistent where we could see it everywhere because someone, some 1820 01:39:43.239 --> 01:39:45.560 construction worker would have dug it up by now take 1821 01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.199 a picture and post on Instagram someone. 1822 01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:54.600 Six fingered hand prints from around the American Southwest, including. 1823 01:39:54.640 --> 01:39:57.560 Some Ye, there's something to that. So there is this 1824 01:39:57.720 --> 01:39:59.840 polym is something possible? 1825 01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:04.279 Yeah, the possible and if it's related to the giants 1826 01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:07.720 as well. Those are two big, glaring coincidences that we 1827 01:40:07.840 --> 01:40:10.359 need to start taking more seriously because I think the 1828 01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:15.279 institutions that are investigating this or not, we're not investigating. 1829 01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:20.199 I think that there are many depictions in hieroglyphics of 1830 01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:23.079 giants too that I mean, if we're talking about Egypt, 1831 01:40:23.159 --> 01:40:25.520 there's some fucking hieroglyphics you might want to check out 1832 01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:28.720 because there's some giants up in that bitch. But I 1833 01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:30.800 also don't believe enough to take the art. 1834 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:34.960 Too seriously though, because a symbolic at times, Yeah, because 1835 01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:38.000 sometimes a giant it was the power of the feruh, 1836 01:40:38.319 --> 01:40:39.439 not a literal giant. 1837 01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:43.960 Yeah, But I mean some of them, some of them 1838 01:40:44.039 --> 01:40:46.159 might be a metaphor some of them might be like 1839 01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:48.960 real ship. But also. 1840 01:40:50.600 --> 01:40:52.640 What did you say, Jules, I said it could be both. 1841 01:40:53.039 --> 01:40:54.239 Maybe it could be both. 1842 01:40:54.239 --> 01:40:55.239 There's not much evidence. 1843 01:40:57.560 --> 01:40:59.439 The problem is is like we find all of the 1844 01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:01.439 stuff in the world, we find all this stuff in 1845 01:41:01.479 --> 01:41:04.000 the old world, and then we see the same institutions 1846 01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:06.920 coming in and messing up any chance of having a 1847 01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:09.840 real investigation. And that's the problem is that if we 1848 01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:12.880 can't get these ideas taken seriously at least in some way, 1849 01:41:13.079 --> 01:41:16.159 shape or form, the Smithsonian can keep destroying evidence, which 1850 01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:18.439 they've been caught doing over and over again, especially with 1851 01:41:18.479 --> 01:41:20.880 the boneyard up in Alaska. They took all of this 1852 01:41:21.039 --> 01:41:23.319 stuff from the boneyard up in Alaska down to the 1853 01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:26.199 Smithsonian to put it on display, and they just dumped 1854 01:41:26.239 --> 01:41:30.279 it in the river like that type of irresponsible behavior 1855 01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:32.439 needs to be called out, and far too often people 1856 01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:38.239 just say it was that they that they took on 1857 01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:44.239 behalf of a person. No, I don't, I don't know. 1858 01:41:48.840 --> 01:41:51.159 It's it's the same thing. It's the Cosmos Club and 1859 01:41:51.359 --> 01:41:56.000 the Smithsonian Institute working together to keep down certain aspects 1860 01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:59.039 of society. And we have the Cosmos Club pamphlets and 1861 01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:01.319 the things that they wrote about saying we need to 1862 01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:04.119 keep certain truths from the general public. These are the 1863 01:42:04.199 --> 01:42:07.319 founders of the Smithsonian Institute writing that in the Cosmos 1864 01:42:07.359 --> 01:42:10.359 Club this is very important stuff that now we have 1865 01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:13.319 huge chunks of our own history missing because of the 1866 01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:16.880 elites that were mismanaging all of this evidence. And they're 1867 01:42:16.960 --> 01:42:19.399 still doing it to this day, and it's really irresponsible 1868 01:42:19.399 --> 01:42:19.640 for us. 1869 01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:23.439 I think political attitude dictate reality here. 1870 01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:25.960 You're it is very political well. 1871 01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:30.239 Looking at a conspiracy. 1872 01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:32.840 Flint Dibbel, for instance, Flint Dibbel looks at us like 1873 01:42:32.920 --> 01:42:37.039 where children and having that perspective from these institutions looking 1874 01:42:37.119 --> 01:42:39.000 at us like we don't know what we're talking about 1875 01:42:39.079 --> 01:42:46.199 all the time. Is all fatigued by it because we 1876 01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:48.880 asked questions responsible. 1877 01:42:48.279 --> 01:42:52.359 And Dan Dandy Dunker said that he was trying to 1878 01:42:52.359 --> 01:42:55.479 say that Atlantis is eastern island. But we know you 1879 01:42:55.560 --> 01:42:58.239 can literally look it up yourself and read that Plato's's 1880 01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.760 elephants and it doesn't rain, and they're lots of gold, 1881 01:43:01.319 --> 01:43:03.960 So it makes no sense that he would make that 1882 01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:06.119 same But because Dan is trying to make the concept 1883 01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:10.840 bigger than what actually played, was saying he's ignoring details intentionally, 1884 01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:13.760 or he's not reading it, or he doesn't care. That's 1885 01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:17.000 what doctor are calling out, and I'm gonna call that out. 1886 01:43:17.960 --> 01:43:20.880 I agree it should be called out. But the patriarchal 1887 01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:24.520 methodology that they use to keep the public away from 1888 01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:30.399 certain inconvenient facts about their own history is really really tiresome. 1889 01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:32.680 I mean, there's no way that we can all just 1890 01:43:32.760 --> 01:43:35.960 say the Smithsonian Institute doesn't have their hands dirty when 1891 01:43:35.960 --> 01:43:40.279 it comes to mismanaging all these articles. There's a reason 1892 01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:43.039 why Trump recently signed a document saying we need to 1893 01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:45.920 have a full accounting of what's going on in the Smithsonian. 1894 01:43:46.199 --> 01:43:48.760 They've been outside of the control of the American people 1895 01:43:48.800 --> 01:43:50.439 for a long time now, and we need. 1896 01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:54.520 It's not the Smithsonian, it's the intelligence agencies. If there's 1897 01:43:54.840 --> 01:43:58.359 let me tell you, for if they find something in 1898 01:43:58.439 --> 01:44:01.880 Iraq that looks like a utated human or chrimera or 1899 01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:04.319 anything like that, the first people are gonna get it 1900 01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:06.720 will be the military, and then they're sending it off 1901 01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:09.840 straight to the intelligence sis to be locked up that. 1902 01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:12.319 I believe Mamsonian, on the other hand, is not going 1903 01:44:12.399 --> 01:44:16.840 to get access to that. See, I will go straight 1904 01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:19.560 to ma Sonian directors say you give us that, or 1905 01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:20.880 we're going to drain your bank account. 1906 01:44:25.479 --> 01:44:26.119 That's what we're trying. 1907 01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:28.680 It's all the same thing. We're just trying to more 1908 01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:29.640 sovilient control. 1909 01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:31.840 It's one more powerful than the other because one hasn't done. 1910 01:44:33.359 --> 01:44:38.039 Yeah, the patriarchal Right, it's the patriarchal nature of how 1911 01:44:38.159 --> 01:44:40.399 they treat us, and they cover for the people who 1912 01:44:40.439 --> 01:44:42.800 are pressuring them instead of exposing it to the people 1913 01:44:42.840 --> 01:44:45.800 who should know about it. And that's The big problem 1914 01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:49.039 is all throughout the institutions we find that same attitude, 1915 01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:51.119 which is why a lot of people get upset about 1916 01:44:51.159 --> 01:44:53.600 this topic because of the fact that there is so 1917 01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:54.640 much obfuscation. 1918 01:44:54.960 --> 01:45:00.560 You know, liberals, there's too many liberal archaeolog just like 1919 01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:02.920 these two and starting to speak out, but there's not 1920 01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:07.039 enough more conservative or rationalistic, realistic archaeologist out there to 1921 01:45:07.079 --> 01:45:10.760 speak out. And that's why you're gaining conflicts. I'm noticing 1922 01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:15.159 a divide. Yeah on Dandy Dunker or Graham or Jimmy 1923 01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:17.439 for Brighton inside there are a lot of them are 1924 01:45:17.640 --> 01:45:20.399 right leaning, and then you're encountering more than left leaning 1925 01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:23.039 academics and you're colliding, and there's not too many centrists 1926 01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:25.760 like me to speak out say yes, there really was 1927 01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:28.600 Atlantis and definitely has something to do with the Middle East, 1928 01:45:29.479 --> 01:45:32.319 and it's broabably Egypt, because as Robert Pavow said, or 1929 01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:36.119 not Roppervow, what's the guy that went on Joe Rogan 1930 01:45:36.199 --> 01:45:39.119 that died. Oh he had the white beer and blanket 1931 01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:41.239 out of his name, but he was saying that, you know, 1932 01:45:41.319 --> 01:45:44.119 there basically was an Atlantis. To Joe Rogan, it has 1933 01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:47.960 something to do with Egypt. I think it was oh 1934 01:45:48.039 --> 01:45:51.680 man like it. I'm sorry, but I agree with Robert 1935 01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:55.039 Vow and others that Egypt could be older because I 1936 01:45:55.119 --> 01:45:58.119 do see artifacts that do have margin of errors. The 1937 01:45:58.239 --> 01:46:00.760 dates of the Exus has a margin of air. Santorini 1938 01:46:00.840 --> 01:46:03.600 has a marginer error. So when you add all these up, yes, 1939 01:46:03.720 --> 01:46:07.840 there is something off of the dating records on things, 1940 01:46:08.520 --> 01:46:10.840 and our coeusion should be open to that. But they 1941 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:13.560 do ignore the fact that, yeah, actually Santerni could be 1942 01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:16.920 one thousand, six hundred and sixty eight BC or one 1943 01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:19.319 thousand seven RBC. Is there a connection with the Indos 1944 01:46:19.439 --> 01:46:22.119 Valley migration and collapse? And they say, well, well, we 1945 01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:24.479 want to get to that because it complicates things. Well, yeah, 1946 01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:27.760 it might complicate things. Okay, let's actually look at Platon. 1947 01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:31.960 See there is some historical historicity that's shaping his worldview. 1948 01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:35.840 Real things. Elephants are real, the sun is real, the 1949 01:46:35.960 --> 01:46:39.119 gods are real to some extent. They call them UAPs 1950 01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:42.359 or angels and demons. Could they be aliens? The evidence 1951 01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:45.399 isn't strong enough yep for that. So let's go to 1952 01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:47.039 the last slide and I'll just kind of end it here. 1953 01:46:52.600 --> 01:46:56.479 Let's see, Yeah, so for example, I'm definitely open to 1954 01:46:56.600 --> 01:47:00.399 the possibility of something even more macro than the story 1955 01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:02.600 of players Atlantis, Like, could there have been a lot 1956 01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:05.840 of civilization at fifty five million years ago? Yes, Doctor Flint, 1957 01:47:05.880 --> 01:47:08.800 Devil and Miano should be open to that possibility, because 1958 01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:11.520 when you're going back fifty five million years ago now, 1959 01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:16.000 entropy has enough time to completely alter things. Oil would 1960 01:47:16.039 --> 01:47:20.000 be replenished, so it wouldn't be just depleted. It takes 1961 01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:22.560 about fifty about thirty to fifty million years for that 1962 01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:25.680 to be replenished. So it's a possibility Mount Rushmore would 1963 01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:30.039 be completely gone. Okay, crazy horse monument as well. So yeah, 1964 01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:33.560 things could completely roll by that timescale, but not just 1965 01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:36.720 within the past twelve thousand, fifteen thousand years, no, or 1966 01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:39.680 even one hundred thousand years. Mount Rushmore would still exist 1967 01:47:39.840 --> 01:47:41.920 two hundred thousand years from now. It would be hard 1968 01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:46.319 to notice it, but you could see some stylistic carving 1969 01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:48.880 on it. So, but if you want to even go bigger, 1970 01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:53.119 you could say even the pre Carnian Peluvian event two 1971 01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:56.079 hundred and thirty million years ago, a massive extinction event 1972 01:47:56.319 --> 01:47:59.079 could completely wiped off the civilization. A massive rain event 1973 01:47:59.119 --> 01:48:01.039 that happened there, but it has nothing to do with 1974 01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:05.239 any biblical stories, Plato stories, nothing at all, completely disconnected. 1975 01:48:05.479 --> 01:48:08.960 Same thing with Venus. There's a real possibility that Venus 1976 01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:11.680 could have been just like our more so than Mars, 1977 01:48:11.760 --> 01:48:15.039 because the sun was smaller and then it was more 1978 01:48:15.079 --> 01:48:17.359 in the habitable zone, and Venus may have actually had 1979 01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:19.920 a moon, and the hypothesis is that moon may have 1980 01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:23.720 been mercury. If that's the case, there's a high probability 1981 01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:26.920 Venus would have had a civilization because they now have 1982 01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:30.159 detected according to the Japanese spaces and she that they 1983 01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:34.479 found granite, the chemical signature of granite and phosphe. So 1984 01:48:35.239 --> 01:48:38.000 it's looking very likely there's a possibility that, you know, 1985 01:48:38.439 --> 01:48:40.760 if Venus has a civilization, Now what does that mean 1986 01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:45.000 with the whole aspect of religion and the supernatural and 1987 01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:48.920 paranormal things, because it shows that you know, this idea 1988 01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:51.279 of Jesus, like is he an avatar? What do we 1989 01:48:51.399 --> 01:48:54.119 mean by avatar? Is the debate on whether he's an 1990 01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:57.239 interdimensional being. How many Jesuses have there been or is 1991 01:48:57.279 --> 01:49:00.359 there different angels or being intermensial beings for every place planet, 1992 01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:03.239 But they're not the same being. So this does have 1993 01:49:03.279 --> 01:49:06.239 a theological implication in the long run, which I'm open to. 1994 01:49:06.720 --> 01:49:09.359 But we gotta wait until they send those satellites back 1995 01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:11.640 to Venus, which Japan and Russia are gonna do in 1996 01:49:11.720 --> 01:49:14.840 the twenty thirties. It's gonna change the conversation big time 1997 01:49:15.279 --> 01:49:17.600 in the late twenty thirties, I would say, and I 1998 01:49:17.680 --> 01:49:19.800 would definitely be open, like C. S. Lewis was open 1999 01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:23.239 to the possibility that Venus could have had a loss civilization. 2000 01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:26.760 And now, okay, it wasn't gonna be within our timeline, 2001 01:49:27.079 --> 01:49:30.880 but hundreds of millions of years ago, because right now 2002 01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:35.239 NASA's only found about twelve out of six thousand exoplants 2003 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:38.439 may be considered super harpbule, but that only means it 2004 01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:41.439 has plants, doesn't mean it has a civilization, because our 2005 01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:44.279 civilization is like a blipin time on Earth, so we don't. 2006 01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:47.079 It's hard to line up space and time. Venus is 2007 01:49:47.159 --> 01:49:50.479 so close to us, but they're separated by time. So 2008 01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:53.960 there really are probably extraterrestrials, but they're probably stuck on 2009 01:49:54.039 --> 01:49:57.199 their Garden of Eden, just as we are. And that's 2010 01:49:57.239 --> 01:50:01.000 the sad reality. Probably the Fermi Paradix truly is a thing, 2011 01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:05.239 and the great filters, and we're not gonna carl Sagan said, 2012 01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:08.000 you know, arsivilization is like one second of three hundred 2013 01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:10.159 and sixty five days of the Earth's lifespan. What happens 2014 01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:12.399 in that next second, We're gonna just be gone, and 2015 01:50:12.479 --> 01:50:14.880 maybe two hundred million years later another one pops up 2016 01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:18.880 your backyard squirrel evolves to be the next hominid. It 2017 01:50:18.960 --> 01:50:20.920 could recycle, but it's gonna be have to be a 2018 01:50:21.319 --> 01:50:24.479 larger scale, not sure scale as Randall, carls and Graham 2019 01:50:24.479 --> 01:50:27.079 Hancock kind of want to believe on the recycling of civilization. 2020 01:50:27.800 --> 01:50:31.119 Do you believe in hominated carsonization. This is a theory 2021 01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:33.800 I'm coming up with. So you've got all these crabs 2022 01:50:34.079 --> 01:50:36.399 that are not the same as like each other. They're 2023 01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:39.880 different species of crabs, but they all look like crabs, right, 2024 01:50:40.119 --> 01:50:42.520 They're all shaped in the same way because of carsonization, 2025 01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:45.800 where everything that gets to that level of evolution starts 2026 01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:47.720 to look like a crab. Well, what if there's a 2027 01:50:47.760 --> 01:50:51.319 hominid version of that where everybody, every ape or whatever 2028 01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:53.840 that gets to this level of evolution starts to look 2029 01:50:53.920 --> 01:50:54.439 like a human. 2030 01:50:55.359 --> 01:50:58.399 Yes, and I think there's that hypothesis of the dinosaurroid hypothsis. 2031 01:50:58.479 --> 01:51:00.960 So like fifty five million years ago, possible ability that 2032 01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:04.319 trodon would evolve to look more hominid like. And yeah, 2033 01:51:04.359 --> 01:51:07.079 because there's some basic laws of physics. You need at 2034 01:51:07.279 --> 01:51:11.000 least four fingers and it's some kind of an external 2035 01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:13.159 appendage at a certain angle to be able to grasp 2036 01:51:13.279 --> 01:51:15.960 a tool in the right way, to be amzi dictus 2037 01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:18.479 or you know, to be able to write and maneuver 2038 01:51:18.720 --> 01:51:21.399 material in a more efficient manner than like, you know, 2039 01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:24.079 a dog can't. A dog can't write, it doesn't have 2040 01:51:24.239 --> 01:51:26.359 the right anatomy at all. It has to be the 2041 01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:29.600 right form. So this is why instead of calling intelligent design, 2042 01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:33.000 I would say intelligent programming. And that's mainly due to 2043 01:51:34.119 --> 01:51:37.479 the anthropic principle. Like the way the laws of physics 2044 01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:42.039 works inevitably leads to a natural form that is made 2045 01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:45.279 in the so called image and likeness of the gods. Now, again, 2046 01:51:45.359 --> 01:51:47.800 the gods are purely spiritual that could take av to 2047 01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:50.359 our forms. But is there a possibility that these so 2048 01:51:50.479 --> 01:51:55.640 called UAPs are not just immortal gods that were always immortal. 2049 01:51:55.960 --> 01:51:59.680 But the hyphpods is that maybe they were from planets 2050 01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:02.000 and then they become a God, because that's what the 2051 01:52:02.039 --> 01:52:05.279 Egyptians believe, that humans become a god, but a small 2052 01:52:05.399 --> 01:52:08.000 g god, not the big cosmic one, but you move 2053 01:52:08.119 --> 01:52:11.239 up the ranks of the of the heavens and a 2054 01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:15.239 higher evolutionary spiritual form, I guess, and that's a possibility 2055 01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:18.520 that some of these UAPs we experience, maybe entities that 2056 01:52:18.640 --> 01:52:21.760 were born from Venus a billion years ago and now 2057 01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:25.640 they're immortal and flying around screwing around with us. That's 2058 01:52:25.680 --> 01:52:27.199 a weird way to look at but I think there's 2059 01:52:27.279 --> 01:52:31.159 one NASA professor or NASA administrator was talking with Diana 2060 01:52:31.159 --> 01:52:33.640 Pasoka and was kind of bringing up that idea sort of. 2061 01:52:34.680 --> 01:52:37.279 But that's that's out there, and I'm open to that 2062 01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:41.359 possibility that because you know, people say that Mary is 2063 01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:44.199 manifesting as something like a UAP, and then you get 2064 01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:48.159 this pentagondactment called the Immaculate Constellation, a wink wink to 2065 01:52:48.199 --> 01:52:50.119 the Virgin Mary. I'm like, why are they doing that? 2066 01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:52.600 And then you make me want make you wonder, Okay, 2067 01:52:52.760 --> 01:52:55.119 is Mary a god? What do we define as a god? 2068 01:52:55.279 --> 01:52:57.720 Is she an angel? What do we define as an angel? 2069 01:52:57.840 --> 01:53:02.039 What's considered immortal? So the hierarchy and nature of angels 2070 01:53:02.279 --> 01:53:05.079 is is pretty complicated. It comes down to basically their 2071 01:53:05.159 --> 01:53:08.239 power level. In some sense, they're not all equal in 2072 01:53:08.279 --> 01:53:10.600 their power, and they go up the rank, up the ladder. 2073 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.800 So some may surely have been from Venus for all 2074 01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:17.199 we know. But they're no longer you know, humans, They're 2075 01:53:17.199 --> 01:53:20.319 not depending on the planet anymore. They have become transcendent 2076 01:53:20.399 --> 01:53:21.760 to a higher reality. 2077 01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:27.479 I guess you'd have to believe in space to agree 2078 01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:31.960 with that closing statement. But I mean, I'm not I'm 2079 01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:34.159 not trying to like gang up on you or anything. 2080 01:53:34.479 --> 01:53:37.399 I really enjoy presentations like this. I mean, there's been 2081 01:53:37.479 --> 01:53:41.600 some real rock stars in the comments section tonight. Maybe 2082 01:53:41.640 --> 01:53:45.399 this is somebody from you, Jules Nephlum Hunter zero zero seven, 2083 01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:48.840 Is that from you? Yeah, that's all right, wonder well, 2084 01:53:49.039 --> 01:53:54.079 fucking I like this fucking guy retarded. That's all right 2085 01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:55.880 with me because so am I right? 2086 01:53:57.319 --> 01:53:59.039 But yeah, now retard in maths. 2087 01:53:59.119 --> 01:54:01.560 So you know, I think. 2088 01:54:01.479 --> 01:54:07.880 Multiple things could be true at the same time. This 2089 01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:13.439 is really interesting. I do still think that Atlantis could 2090 01:54:13.720 --> 01:54:19.239 possibly have existed at one time. Maybe it's a advanced civilization, 2091 01:54:19.520 --> 01:54:21.000 maybe it wasn't, but. 2092 01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:27.600 Definitely pretty advanced relative to Greeks and the Romans, but 2093 01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:29.359 I mean giant pyramids. 2094 01:54:30.520 --> 01:54:33.199 Yeah, yeah, that That's the thing though that you and 2095 01:54:33.279 --> 01:54:37.520 I skiz them on is I think like they had 2096 01:54:37.600 --> 01:54:41.880 some help, like not ropes and pulleys and ship like that, 2097 01:54:42.039 --> 01:54:45.520 but like levitation and uh, you know. 2098 01:54:48.039 --> 01:54:50.960 That. But what if the gods don't give you that power. 2099 01:54:51.279 --> 01:54:54.840 We don't know how much power might actually give us. 2100 01:54:54.840 --> 01:54:56.520 They might say, go ahead and slave away and use 2101 01:54:56.640 --> 01:54:58.680 ropes and pulleys. We're not gonna help you. Why should 2102 01:54:58.720 --> 01:54:59.319 they care if. 2103 01:54:59.319 --> 01:55:01.279 Someone figured it out out or I don't know, what 2104 01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:03.880 if they were passed down this knowledge and a download 2105 01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:07.640 or a vision or maybe all. 2106 01:55:06.960 --> 01:55:08.720 The same on the gods. 2107 01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.159 What if the gods created the theory? But you know 2108 01:55:11.319 --> 01:55:12.600 there's those theories as well. 2109 01:55:13.359 --> 01:55:16.560 There's lots of evans to say that I'm open to 2110 01:55:16.600 --> 01:55:19.760 the possibility. Like there's someone on Twitter name Third Eye 2111 01:55:19.840 --> 01:55:22.479 Seekhs and third Ice Sekhs, and I are kind of you. 2112 01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:23.720 I don't know if you guys know him, but he 2113 01:55:23.960 --> 01:55:27.279 goes around last year and talks about how the pyramids 2114 01:55:27.279 --> 01:55:29.319 are kind of built and the possibility that they had 2115 01:55:29.399 --> 01:55:32.760 to use more advanced levers and cranes and pulleys at 2116 01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:36.199 the level of Rome or Persia, so and that some 2117 01:55:36.319 --> 01:55:38.800 of that knowledge was lost and then rediscovered by the 2118 01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:40.960 Romans and the Persians. So they actually were a little 2119 01:55:40.960 --> 01:55:43.920 bit more advanced because the technologies and the techniques they 2120 01:55:43.960 --> 01:55:45.560 would have used wuld have been very similar to how 2121 01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:48.840 they built the cathedrals of Europe. So how the Masons 2122 01:55:48.840 --> 01:55:51.239 built that is probably what they've learned from how the 2123 01:55:51.319 --> 01:55:55.800 Egyptians built their temples. So they probably had cranes, they 2124 01:55:55.840 --> 01:55:58.399 had pois and levers, but in a complicated form. So 2125 01:55:58.439 --> 01:56:01.560 if you look up, for example, the image of the 2126 01:56:03.039 --> 01:56:06.359 Cleopatches needle in Central Park that the Freemasons had had moved, 2127 01:56:06.640 --> 01:56:10.880 they had this giant scaffolding let not levitating but suspending 2128 01:56:10.960 --> 01:56:13.399 it in a fulk crumb the whole obelisk, and they 2129 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:16.760 could tilted with ropes and different poison. They used metal, 2130 01:56:16.800 --> 01:56:20.159 of course, and horses, hundreds of horses, and it was 2131 01:56:20.199 --> 01:56:23.199 a complicated thing, and they did it, and then the 2132 01:56:23.439 --> 01:56:25.600 Vatican did the same thing, and the column in Saint 2133 01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:29.479 Petersburg did the same thing. But it was a complicated system. 2134 01:56:29.560 --> 01:56:32.039 Wasn't just a bunch of people pulling with ropes, No, 2135 01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:35.960 they had to develop an architectural scaffolding system with mechanical 2136 01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:40.439 advantages to be able to move this whole thing even wheels. 2137 01:56:40.520 --> 01:56:43.560 So yeah, I think the Egyptians had more. Yes, exactly 2138 01:56:44.079 --> 01:56:45.039 the Egyptians. 2139 01:56:44.600 --> 01:56:49.880 Because pictures like that, No, that's that is a. 2140 01:56:51.760 --> 01:56:53.520 Not that's not the original picture. That's a scam. 2141 01:56:54.800 --> 01:56:57.680 That's that's the original picture that they skid. But that's 2142 01:56:57.720 --> 01:57:01.960 a picture. It looks like the people in the foreground. 2143 01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:04.159 This is eighteen eighty one. I believe it looks like 2144 01:57:04.239 --> 01:57:06.760 the people in the foreground. Now, that's definitely a drawing. 2145 01:57:06.840 --> 01:57:09.760 But yeah, this is this is a redrawing of that picture. 2146 01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:13.039 There's another one, but there's a calm in Alexandria too, 2147 01:57:13.079 --> 01:57:14.159 you can look up that. But a lot of them 2148 01:57:14.199 --> 01:57:17.159 are drawings. Yes, but because you know, they didn't have 2149 01:57:17.199 --> 01:57:18.960 photography back then, so sure. 2150 01:57:19.199 --> 01:57:22.640 Because it didn't fucking happen that way, and they had 2151 01:57:22.680 --> 01:57:24.800 to draw some ship up to make you think that 2152 01:57:24.920 --> 01:57:27.199 they built it when they fucking didn't build it at all. 2153 01:57:27.640 --> 01:57:29.920 Anyways, they did, That's how. That's when I moved it. 2154 01:57:30.880 --> 01:57:32.079 That's what I'm saying about this. 2155 01:57:32.439 --> 01:57:32.920 You got it. 2156 01:57:33.560 --> 01:57:35.960 That's what I'm saying, though, is you got you said 2157 01:57:36.039 --> 01:57:38.159 not everything is a conspiracy. What I'm telling you is 2158 01:57:38.239 --> 01:57:44.640 it fucking is any every little thing is a CONSPIASI 2159 01:57:45.439 --> 01:57:46.920 I don't wear anything. 2160 01:57:47.239 --> 01:57:51.159 Yeah, they're they're picking it up. This is a real photo, right, 2161 01:57:51.239 --> 01:57:54.800 but it doesn't show it, and it doesn't show they're 2162 01:57:54.800 --> 01:57:55.600 putting it on the boat. 2163 01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:57.079 I don't have video cameras back then. 2164 01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:04.840 Well they've got the cameras they have, but you don't 2165 01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:05.600 trust that photo. 2166 01:58:06.079 --> 01:58:08.159 It comes down to your trust if you don't trust 2167 01:58:08.159 --> 01:58:09.199 in basic society. 2168 01:58:11.760 --> 01:58:12.640 Here's another drawing. 2169 01:58:13.079 --> 01:58:14.479 That's drawing. 2170 01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:17.960 But what what you think the camera back then? 2171 01:58:19.359 --> 01:58:20.720 There weren't that many cameras back then. 2172 01:58:20.760 --> 01:58:22.560 Of course you have to be a little bit like 2173 01:58:23.359 --> 01:58:27.399 people camera right, Yeah, there's a drug. 2174 01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:29.960 Right, So you guys are a bunch of communists, the elites, 2175 01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:31.640 the elites, just. 2176 01:58:33.920 --> 01:58:34.520 What we see. 2177 01:58:36.399 --> 01:58:39.760 There are some conspiracies. U aps definitely have been hidden 2178 01:58:39.800 --> 01:58:43.319 from us intentionally, and it's understandable, I think to some degree. 2179 01:58:44.039 --> 01:58:48.039 Well here's the picture, right, that's a real Now. 2180 01:58:48.159 --> 01:58:50.479 You know what's funny is that you think some of 2181 01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:53.479 the stuff we think is so silly. But I actually 2182 01:58:53.600 --> 01:58:56.760 think that you're listening to lou Alexandre was fucking ridiculous. 2183 01:58:57.800 --> 01:58:58.279 That's not just. 2184 01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:03.880 Again, he wasn't even in in the know until someone 2185 01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:10.840 in the state. Yeah, what about David crush. 2186 01:59:14.199 --> 01:59:15.800 It ship. 2187 01:59:15.920 --> 01:59:18.039 I mean, would they allow them to speak if they 2188 01:59:18.079 --> 01:59:18.720 weren't in on it? 2189 01:59:18.800 --> 01:59:18.960 Man? 2190 01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:21.479 I mean, look at history. You're correct what we've seen 2191 01:59:21.520 --> 01:59:22.199 in the past. 2192 01:59:22.199 --> 01:59:26.760 Name Greek, different career. Yeah, you guys are. 2193 01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:29.960 Yeah. 2194 01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:32.920 He was very closely tied into the Clinton administration, like 2195 01:59:33.119 --> 01:59:35.439 all of his agree stuff back in the nineties, were 2196 01:59:35.600 --> 01:59:38.439 very close to the government, and that was his message. 2197 01:59:38.760 --> 01:59:40.159 It seems really ridiculous now. 2198 01:59:40.199 --> 01:59:44.159 Look, Yeah, the whole UAP topic, it's definitely a top 2199 01:59:44.520 --> 01:59:47.319 down approach. It's the people at the very top who 2200 01:59:47.439 --> 01:59:50.680 want to disclose it. It started under the Obama administration. 2201 01:59:50.960 --> 01:59:54.600 Obama must have signed something to give them, give the 2202 01:59:54.720 --> 01:59:58.359 Geospatial Intelligence Agency clearance to begin the process because it's 2203 01:59:58.439 --> 02:00:02.640 that institution that holds the servers that have the classified 2204 02:00:02.760 --> 02:00:05.680 videos from the eighties and the nineties and so forth. 2205 02:00:06.039 --> 02:00:08.840 So sure, I agree, it's definitely top down. All these 2206 02:00:08.920 --> 02:00:13.079 officers they cannot publicly speak without permission from the superiors, 2207 02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:17.279 I agree. But yes, it's from the top down, because 2208 02:00:17.399 --> 02:00:22.079 the Pentagon knows they can't control the phenomenon what happens 2209 02:00:22.079 --> 02:00:25.399 if the phenomenon does do something that's ontological, like in 2210 02:00:25.439 --> 02:00:27.760 twenty eleven over the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. 2211 02:00:28.319 --> 02:00:30.680 That was a real event, and Fox News just kind 2212 02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:33.479 of showed the wrong video and CNN just that it's 2213 02:00:33.560 --> 02:00:36.359 probably just something fake. But there are five different angles 2214 02:00:36.399 --> 02:00:39.680 of that shot in twenty eleven, something happened over there 2215 02:00:39.920 --> 02:00:40.560 and after. 2216 02:00:40.439 --> 02:00:42.479 That event, and all of a sudden that I think 2217 02:00:42.560 --> 02:00:44.439 so too. I think that was some real shit. 2218 02:00:45.159 --> 02:00:47.720 Yeah, the Obama administration said, Okay, maybe we should begin 2219 02:00:47.800 --> 02:00:50.399 the process of disclosure because we can't hide the phenomenon 2220 02:00:50.479 --> 02:00:53.960 because the phenomenon is going to people like me. And now, 2221 02:00:54.039 --> 02:00:56.159 in my case, I didn't get on video because the 2222 02:00:56.239 --> 02:00:58.800 phenomenon happened to be too sneaky and clever and realized 2223 02:00:58.840 --> 02:01:01.000 I wanted to get on video and would it let me. 2224 02:01:01.279 --> 02:01:04.520 Sounds like an excuse, but these entities are very sneaky, 2225 02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:09.600 very deceptive, and they're very powerful relative to us. So yeah, 2226 02:01:09.680 --> 02:01:12.520 it's very hard to prove the existence of interdimensial beings. 2227 02:01:12.560 --> 02:01:15.079 But we now have cameras for the first time ever 2228 02:01:15.319 --> 02:01:18.239 on this planet in the past hundred years, and they're 2229 02:01:18.279 --> 02:01:21.640 starting to appear the veil is lifting. The Pentagon has 2230 02:01:21.720 --> 02:01:24.079 to prepare for that. It's not just the Pentagon, it's Japan. 2231 02:01:24.560 --> 02:01:28.640 These people that run the Pentagon have been channeling these beings. 2232 02:01:29.840 --> 02:01:34.000 In the periods. Ready can't control them. Well, the Nazis 2233 02:01:34.079 --> 02:01:37.239 tried it and they failed. Well, Nazis got screwed by 2234 02:01:37.279 --> 02:01:37.560 the Gin. 2235 02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:42.079 Yeah, it's not just the Nazis, it's every uh, you know, 2236 02:01:43.399 --> 02:01:46.680 you would say political organization or who has power. At 2237 02:01:46.720 --> 02:01:47.279 the time. 2238 02:01:48.760 --> 02:01:50.760 In the eighteen hundreds, they did. I think there was 2239 02:01:50.760 --> 02:01:52.600 an attempt to try to see if they can summon 2240 02:01:52.720 --> 02:01:55.520 these entities using so called psionics to gain some kind 2241 02:01:55.560 --> 02:01:57.960 of power. The Nazis were definitely doing this, and the 2242 02:01:58.000 --> 02:02:01.880 Americans learned it from the Nazis. But ultimately the Vatican 2243 02:02:02.000 --> 02:02:05.119 is saying you can't control the gods. Plato said that 2244 02:02:05.319 --> 02:02:07.920 you can't control the gods. Don't trust the damn gods 2245 02:02:07.960 --> 02:02:10.479 because they will mess with you. And they absolutely do, 2246 02:02:10.600 --> 02:02:13.560 because fifty percent of them are basically purely demonic, and 2247 02:02:13.600 --> 02:02:16.039 the other fifty percent are very discreet and sneaky, but 2248 02:02:16.119 --> 02:02:18.319 they don't want to show themselves fully. Majors of bold 2249 02:02:18.319 --> 02:02:21.119 plasmay like a shape ship into metal, but I talked 2250 02:02:21.119 --> 02:02:22.800 about this on Reverse Channel a lot. We have a 2251 02:02:22.880 --> 02:02:26.039 whole two hours of this, so you guys can check 2252 02:02:26.119 --> 02:02:27.439 that out on Reverse Channel. 2253 02:02:29.439 --> 02:02:31.840 Well, we're back to the gods. I think that's the 2254 02:02:31.920 --> 02:02:35.119 important part. I think we're all integrated saying that. 2255 02:02:35.399 --> 02:02:39.000 But what's the I'm a Christian and I'm here for it. 2256 02:02:39.279 --> 02:02:43.239 You know, I've been saying that this angel that's yeah. 2257 02:02:44.880 --> 02:02:48.199 On the side, but yeah, yeah, I mean. 2258 02:02:48.159 --> 02:02:50.399 Hold those for two thousand years that they didn't exist, 2259 02:02:50.479 --> 02:02:52.319 and now we're back to it. They killed millions and 2260 02:02:52.359 --> 02:02:55.760 millions of people telling them that the gods didn't Well, actually, 2261 02:02:55.960 --> 02:02:57.439 I think kind of interesting. 2262 02:02:58.560 --> 02:03:02.039 You hear what's his name, Carl Carlnell. Carlnell spoke at 2263 02:03:02.039 --> 02:03:05.720 the SAUL conference. He basically said, it's not really a discovery. 2264 02:03:05.840 --> 02:03:09.119 It's more like a rediscovery of these entities. He didn't 2265 02:03:09.119 --> 02:03:11.920 call them gods. He's trying to avoid religious terminology intentionally, 2266 02:03:12.239 --> 02:03:14.239 but he's saying it wouldn't be that shocking for the 2267 02:03:14.279 --> 02:03:17.439 average Christian or Muslim or even Buddhists because they believed 2268 02:03:17.479 --> 02:03:19.960 in this stuff. Because back in the old days, summoning 2269 02:03:20.079 --> 02:03:23.560 the gods for warfare was a common thing. I mean, 2270 02:03:23.600 --> 02:03:25.720 it was just like you just didn't know how to 2271 02:03:25.840 --> 02:03:26.119 prove it. 2272 02:03:28.359 --> 02:03:31.520 They invade countries on certain days during a certain time 2273 02:03:31.560 --> 02:03:34.600 of the year. They they planned out. These old gods 2274 02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:39.239 are still implicated and every day, Oh yeah, goings on. Brother. 2275 02:03:40.880 --> 02:03:41.399 I don't think. 2276 02:03:42.880 --> 02:03:45.039 You can see who they venerate through the symbolism, and 2277 02:03:45.159 --> 02:03:47.199 it's it's very easy to tell you should you should 2278 02:03:47.199 --> 02:03:48.399 look into some of it, brother. 2279 02:03:48.600 --> 02:03:52.279 Well, that's why all the ancient cultures like that this stuff. 2280 02:03:52.560 --> 02:03:55.439 Dude, you should look into esoteric symbolism and all the 2281 02:03:55.479 --> 02:03:57.560 OCCA I've listened to that worth it. 2282 02:03:58.039 --> 02:03:58.319 Well, that. 2283 02:04:00.960 --> 02:04:03.840 All the all the ancient civilizations that you're talking about, 2284 02:04:03.880 --> 02:04:07.359 Go Beckley Tepe, the Karen Tepe place that was nearby, 2285 02:04:07.479 --> 02:04:10.680 Go Beckley Tepe, all these fucking blood pits and ship 2286 02:04:10.840 --> 02:04:13.479 and the Egyptians, and they were all sacrificed and fucking 2287 02:04:13.800 --> 02:04:16.399 even Graham Pincock's like, look at this, look at this 2288 02:04:16.560 --> 02:04:19.279 odd structure. It looks like a blood pit. Yeah, because 2289 02:04:19.319 --> 02:04:22.880 they were all doing some fucking weird Babylon fucking sacrifice 2290 02:04:22.920 --> 02:04:23.880 and babies and ship. 2291 02:04:24.439 --> 02:04:27.359 They all wanted to consort. 2292 02:04:27.119 --> 02:04:32.119 With some type of weird entity and the aztext and 2293 02:04:32.199 --> 02:04:35.479 the fucking blood rituals. I mean, they all, they all 2294 02:04:35.560 --> 02:04:37.279 did it and they were just trying. 2295 02:04:38.600 --> 02:04:42.119 Because they. 2296 02:04:45.680 --> 02:04:47.920 Syscrapers Washington. 2297 02:04:48.000 --> 02:04:49.800 They still do, they still do that. 2298 02:04:49.920 --> 02:04:51.119 Ship it's just covering. 2299 02:04:52.279 --> 02:04:56.800 You know, in the US the government is run by 2300 02:04:56.840 --> 02:05:00.880 Satanic fucking pedophiles, and and they. 2301 02:05:02.920 --> 02:05:06.399 In Washington, d C. Alone that Why would they keep 2302 02:05:06.439 --> 02:05:09.000 going that knowledge and then put that into the streets 2303 02:05:09.119 --> 02:05:11.560 unless there was something more to it than just. 2304 02:05:11.720 --> 02:05:19.680 Because they believes was Egypt they believe they believe that. Yeah, 2305 02:05:19.960 --> 02:05:23.760 they believe America was like the new Atlantis, the new Rome. 2306 02:05:25.000 --> 02:05:27.079 Yeah, the new Rome right New York. 2307 02:05:27.640 --> 02:05:27.800 You know. 2308 02:05:28.079 --> 02:05:31.319 Yeah, Yeah, it's all just European culture being inherited over here. 2309 02:05:31.399 --> 02:05:33.920 I mean that's natural. It comes the same thing with 2310 02:05:34.039 --> 02:05:37.039 Chinese culture and being inherited by Japan. But that's not 2311 02:05:37.159 --> 02:05:38.840 really just a phenomenon. 2312 02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:41.760 We don't really have access to it anymore. Like they're 2313 02:05:41.800 --> 02:05:44.119 not teaching this stuff as being part of our history. 2314 02:05:44.239 --> 02:05:46.439 Like the streets of Washington College. 2315 02:05:48.560 --> 02:05:49.520 I wouldn't put so much. 2316 02:05:51.319 --> 02:05:53.479 I wouldn't put so much faith in college either, man. 2317 02:05:53.600 --> 02:06:00.800 I look, but you know, we just uh. 2318 02:06:01.159 --> 02:06:06.119 There Uelsy is something to influence America, definitely, that's not 2319 02:06:06.600 --> 02:06:09.000 they don't talk about. But they're not as it used 2320 02:06:09.000 --> 02:06:09.119 to be. 2321 02:06:10.199 --> 02:06:12.960 Well, there's there's a point to that. They're cutting us 2322 02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:15.159 off from that knowledge and they're keeping it for themselves. 2323 02:06:15.199 --> 02:06:17.239 And that's what we constantly see over and over again 2324 02:06:17.319 --> 02:06:20.800 today with the very same organizations. So there is a 2325 02:06:20.880 --> 02:06:24.359 continuity there. We're left in the dark all the time, 2326 02:06:24.600 --> 02:06:26.319 and it's time that changes. We need to get a 2327 02:06:26.359 --> 02:06:28.920 little bit more respect from our government because they don't 2328 02:06:28.920 --> 02:06:31.920 really represent us at all. That's that's the issue that 2329 02:06:32.000 --> 02:06:35.159 everybody's sort of coming into, is that we're at a 2330 02:06:35.279 --> 02:06:35.840 point right now. 2331 02:06:38.840 --> 02:06:41.479 It's not just that it's like, let met our souls 2332 02:06:41.520 --> 02:06:44.640 alone here, you know, we have to when it comes 2333 02:06:44.640 --> 02:06:47.239 to the whole Atlantis war, in some sense, it hasn't 2334 02:06:47.279 --> 02:06:51.279 really ended because it's still being invoked with Israel because 2335 02:06:51.399 --> 02:06:56.000 Israel is basically influenced by the Greek civilization and they're 2336 02:06:56.159 --> 02:06:58.640 sort of taking over the original and Lantean world and 2337 02:06:58.720 --> 02:07:02.079 they're still a collisioner. But it's really it's not conspiratorials 2338 02:07:02.159 --> 02:07:06.000 that it's more geopolitical because the geography is so shitty 2339 02:07:06.359 --> 02:07:10.279 it forces wars. If you had open land, like in 2340 02:07:10.840 --> 02:07:14.239 the Midwest, you can force a way a lot faster 2341 02:07:14.319 --> 02:07:17.159 and unify that region if you have horses. I mean, 2342 02:07:17.399 --> 02:07:20.000 that's why the Native Americans couldn't conquer or fight back 2343 02:07:20.039 --> 02:07:22.880 because they didn't have enough horses, they didn't have enough guns, 2344 02:07:22.920 --> 02:07:24.920 they didn't have a big enough population. They're wiped out 2345 02:07:24.960 --> 02:07:25.520 by a disease. 2346 02:07:25.840 --> 02:07:26.720 So they lost. 2347 02:07:27.399 --> 02:07:30.319 And that's because of geography. Ultimately comes down to the 2348 02:07:30.439 --> 02:07:33.840 landscape and geography that dictates which civilization can be more 2349 02:07:33.880 --> 02:07:36.159 powerful than another. That's why China is going to be 2350 02:07:36.279 --> 02:07:38.520 very powerful because I got a billion people. Because it 2351 02:07:38.600 --> 02:07:41.119 comes down to the law of natural selection, survival of 2352 02:07:41.119 --> 02:07:44.159 the fitness. It's power politics ultimately, and I learned that 2353 02:07:44.359 --> 02:07:47.720 in the University of Iowa. And it sucks that. You know, Yeah, 2354 02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:50.840 Israel basically wants to genocidally murder people out so they 2355 02:07:50.880 --> 02:07:54.439 can gain more strategic real estate put their hotels on. 2356 02:07:55.159 --> 02:07:58.680 It's sad, but that's the sad reality. Well, it comes 2357 02:07:58.720 --> 02:07:59.800 down to the land on this. 2358 02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:03.359 I would agree with Flint Dibble on this. The story 2359 02:08:03.439 --> 02:08:06.680 about how the mound builders were wiped out by these 2360 02:08:06.760 --> 02:08:11.119 current Native Americans was a motivating factor in westward expansion. 2361 02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:11.760 Right. 2362 02:08:11.920 --> 02:08:14.920 They said that these people who built these mounds that 2363 02:08:15.159 --> 02:08:17.640 you know, they had all these cities based around were 2364 02:08:17.720 --> 02:08:20.399 more like the Europeans, and the people who wiped them 2365 02:08:20.439 --> 02:08:23.640 out were the Native Americans. So that gave us license 2366 02:08:24.199 --> 02:08:26.720 to expand westward. That was one of the big motivating 2367 02:08:26.800 --> 02:08:29.560 factors of that time period, and I think it did 2368 02:08:29.680 --> 02:08:32.439 because everybody knew of the stories of Atlantis and they 2369 02:08:32.520 --> 02:08:38.319 understood that there were somehow a much wider Aryan civilization 2370 02:08:38.960 --> 02:08:41.520 that was sort of out there in the new world 2371 02:08:41.960 --> 02:08:43.680 that they were coming to. This was a lot of 2372 02:08:43.760 --> 02:08:45.600 the mythology that came through the. 2373 02:08:47.479 --> 02:08:50.920 Perspective. Yes, Columbus sort of talk. 2374 02:08:52.640 --> 02:08:55.159 With the Knights Pemplar, who are re emerging as a 2375 02:08:55.279 --> 02:08:58.279 factor now in all of this discussion around the collegy. 2376 02:08:58.640 --> 02:09:01.319 Yet they were talking about that stuff you know, that 2377 02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:01.920 was there. 2378 02:09:02.399 --> 02:09:03.960 Yeah, it was an ideological thing. 2379 02:09:05.439 --> 02:09:08.800 The founding fathers were all into the Knights Templar stuff, 2380 02:09:08.840 --> 02:09:11.479 and we're even finding stuff like that today coming out 2381 02:09:11.479 --> 02:09:14.359 of these statues that they tore down back in twenty twenty. 2382 02:09:14.640 --> 02:09:17.239 They found post guards that had Knights Templar seals and 2383 02:09:17.359 --> 02:09:19.920 symbols on them. That was a huge factor in the 2384 02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:23.560 United States government and we don't again the label. 2385 02:09:23.439 --> 02:09:27.159 But ultimately very much it's not it's not really the 2386 02:09:27.279 --> 02:09:30.439 ideology of just the Knights Templar or the free basis. 2387 02:09:30.680 --> 02:09:33.119 It's more the fact that there's a big river there 2388 02:09:33.159 --> 02:09:35.520 that has a lot of freaking water. We want that river, 2389 02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:38.279 get that river. So for that's why why do you 2390 02:09:38.319 --> 02:09:41.279 think Russia is invade in Ukraine. They want did Epper 2391 02:09:41.399 --> 02:09:43.479 River and they're gonna conquer everything up to that river 2392 02:09:43.600 --> 02:09:48.279 because rivers strategic real estate or you know, resources. That's 2393 02:09:48.319 --> 02:09:50.880 the ultimate thing. So when people say, oh, we're gonna 2394 02:09:51.199 --> 02:09:54.279 we're gonna go, you know, defend Israel and expand Israel 2395 02:09:54.319 --> 02:09:56.920 because we Israel's being attacked and all that, in reality, no, 2396 02:09:57.279 --> 02:10:00.680 Israel just wants to expand their border on prime real 2397 02:10:00.840 --> 02:10:03.920 estate to secure the state more, and they will murder 2398 02:10:04.000 --> 02:10:04.479 people out. 2399 02:10:04.399 --> 02:10:04.600 To do it. 2400 02:10:04.680 --> 02:10:07.079 Doesn't matter if your democracy a communist state or a 2401 02:10:07.159 --> 02:10:10.239 fascist state. It ultimately is land is forcing you to 2402 02:10:10.319 --> 02:10:14.920 become dictatorial or fascist because of scarcity. Because as Neil 2403 02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:17.960 Degrass Tyson said, this planet is not as habitable as 2404 02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:20.920 people think. Only like twenty percent or less of the 2405 02:10:21.000 --> 02:10:24.079 land surface is adable. Imagine if that was fifty percent, 2406 02:10:24.439 --> 02:10:26.279 there wouldn't be as many wars because you have more 2407 02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:29.319 puntable resources. But the fact that you know, fifty percent 2408 02:10:29.319 --> 02:10:31.840 of the United States is desert and the Middle East 2409 02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:33.680 is pretty much all desert except for the Garden of 2410 02:10:33.800 --> 02:10:35.760 En of Egypt and Atlantis. I guess you could say. 2411 02:10:36.079 --> 02:10:39.119 And you know, China's so confined in that one region 2412 02:10:39.199 --> 02:10:43.119 of the Yale River. It forces these wars to happen 2413 02:10:43.199 --> 02:10:46.800 because there's a scarcity. It's because the scarcity that forces 2414 02:10:47.159 --> 02:10:52.039 these geopolitical agendas. It's not just ideology. Ideology is justification 2415 02:10:52.199 --> 02:10:54.760 to go murder people, just as Catholics did that we 2416 02:10:55.239 --> 02:11:03.600 digress the States was justification. Listen, Okay, I don't agree 2417 02:11:03.640 --> 02:11:06.960 with everything he says, but he's right. Ther is trying 2418 02:11:07.000 --> 02:11:09.079 to kill us, and that's why there's so much war, 2419 02:11:09.279 --> 02:11:12.239 because we're fighting for primarial estate. That's a logical argument. 2420 02:11:12.600 --> 02:11:16.640 It's nothing conspiratorial. But there are conspiracy that force that 2421 02:11:16.800 --> 02:11:20.680 people make up to justify stealing land, like the Israel 2422 02:11:20.680 --> 02:11:23.560 wants to expand off to the Tiger's River. That's insane. 2423 02:11:24.880 --> 02:11:25.239 All right. 2424 02:11:27.399 --> 02:11:32.079 I've got right here the Rosy Cross Order sixty eighth 2425 02:11:32.159 --> 02:11:38.760 convocation of the Rosy Cross. This is in Pennsylvania. That yeah, 2426 02:11:38.840 --> 02:11:41.159 that's the Great Seal of the United States being unveiled 2427 02:11:41.239 --> 02:11:46.399 in this occult literatures sixteen years But no, this isn't 2428 02:11:46.439 --> 02:11:49.600 the Jews. This is the Knights Templar, and the Rosicrucians 2429 02:11:49.680 --> 02:11:52.279 and the Freemasons. They all got together up in Pennsylvania 2430 02:11:52.319 --> 02:11:55.039 and had this six Jews. 2431 02:11:55.159 --> 02:11:57.119 I'll let you know that they're definitely yeah, I know. 2432 02:11:58.960 --> 02:12:00.800 It's influenced by Yeah. 2433 02:12:01.000 --> 02:12:04.039 Right, So again this book they talk about Atlantis, right, 2434 02:12:04.119 --> 02:12:06.439 they talk about Atlantis and they say that it stretches 2435 02:12:06.520 --> 02:12:09.600 from Mexico all the way over to Africa. This was 2436 02:12:09.680 --> 02:12:11.279 their opinion on Atlantis. 2437 02:12:11.319 --> 02:12:14.119 And this was back in the nineteen I know. 2438 02:12:14.279 --> 02:12:18.680 But I'm saying, like this is within their UIR mythology, and. 2439 02:12:20.119 --> 02:12:23.119 I mean that's just an opinion, you know what I mean. 2440 02:12:23.600 --> 02:12:25.319 I mean it's like it's like the israel things that 2441 02:12:25.359 --> 02:12:27.560 they're the chosen people of God. Well, the real chosen 2442 02:12:27.600 --> 02:12:30.720 people were the Egyptians, and the early Jews were Egyptians, 2443 02:12:30.760 --> 02:12:34.920 and they weren't you know, Ukrainians and Russians. Okay, that 2444 02:12:35.119 --> 02:12:39.359 moved to Israel. It's yeah. People will use ideologies and 2445 02:12:39.479 --> 02:12:44.159 shape and shape shifted to manipulate geopolitical gains. So America 2446 02:12:44.319 --> 02:12:47.319 because of Christopher clumb was naming the first islands the Antilles. 2447 02:12:47.760 --> 02:12:51.159 The Mason started to believe that America basically was Atlantis, 2448 02:12:51.199 --> 02:12:53.000 but then that shifted as a Natian Stollarys said, well, 2449 02:12:53.039 --> 02:12:55.720 maybe it's in the Little Atlantic Ocean, and then that 2450 02:12:55.920 --> 02:12:59.479 kind of shifted. So, but modern scholars now no longer 2451 02:12:59.640 --> 02:13:02.199 believe that because now we have subundance of a months 2452 02:13:02.239 --> 02:13:05.039 of evidence, and to say that it doesn't make any 2453 02:13:05.119 --> 02:13:07.920 logical sense because now we can compare it with other 2454 02:13:08.000 --> 02:13:10.760 writings of Plato and say it was just talking about 2455 02:13:10.760 --> 02:13:12.720 the Middle East, where all of our problems come from. 2456 02:13:14.039 --> 02:13:17.800 Right. So this group specifically is saying under the authority 2457 02:13:17.880 --> 02:13:20.760 of the Rose Cross Order, founded in America in eighteen 2458 02:13:20.920 --> 02:13:24.359 fifty eight, prominent delegates of the Order were gathered in 2459 02:13:24.439 --> 02:13:28.159 the most remarkable conclave held during the last five thousand years, 2460 02:13:28.560 --> 02:13:31.680 the publication of whose records now opens the world and 2461 02:13:31.840 --> 02:13:35.600 connection of Egypt in her ages of true religion, power 2462 02:13:35.720 --> 02:13:38.800 and glory with the mystical seal of the United States, 2463 02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:43.439 whose heralderic symbolism declaring the mighty destiny of America has 2464 02:13:43.600 --> 02:13:47.800 until now only been known to a limited number. He's 2465 02:13:47.880 --> 02:13:52.159 saying that there is a huge connection between America Atlantis 2466 02:13:52.800 --> 02:13:54.319 and Egypt, right. 2467 02:13:54.640 --> 02:13:57.479 Your theory at the time, Yeah, they didn't know literature. 2468 02:13:58.000 --> 02:14:02.079 Yeah, and they're talking about separated though. I think they 2469 02:14:02.159 --> 02:14:04.760 still thought they weren't sure. The Mazons weren't sure if 2470 02:14:04.840 --> 02:14:09.680 Egypt was Atlantis in the eighteen fifties until maybe in 2471 02:14:09.960 --> 02:14:13.159 Night I think under Madam Blovotsky and other occultis they 2472 02:14:13.199 --> 02:14:15.199 start to realize that definitely had something to do with Egypt. 2473 02:14:15.239 --> 02:14:18.439 But as archaeology expanded and we were starting to really 2474 02:14:18.600 --> 02:14:21.079 figure it out, we realized that, yeah, it does have 2475 02:14:21.159 --> 02:14:23.279 something to do with Egypt, especially in the eighteen fifties, 2476 02:14:23.479 --> 02:14:25.600 and that's why an obelisk was placed there. Wasn't just 2477 02:14:25.680 --> 02:14:27.720 for George Washington. It was to say that we are 2478 02:14:27.800 --> 02:14:31.600 the new Atlantis, we are the new and it was Egyptian. 2479 02:14:32.319 --> 02:14:34.399 They're the new Atlantis and it's Egyptians. 2480 02:14:34.479 --> 02:14:39.119 So they were with Manfeism started in Egypt. It wasn't 2481 02:14:39.159 --> 02:14:41.920 the Jice. I mean, it was a pre Jews, which 2482 02:14:41.960 --> 02:14:44.720 were Egyptians, not you know, Oshkenazi Jews from Russia. 2483 02:14:46.039 --> 02:14:48.640 Right. So all I'm saying is that they would agree 2484 02:14:48.680 --> 02:14:51.439 with you on your thesis that they were probably talking 2485 02:14:51.479 --> 02:14:55.119 about Egypt. The difference is that they also believed that 2486 02:14:55.279 --> 02:14:58.039 Egypt was in the New World as well, which was 2487 02:14:58.199 --> 02:15:01.560 a big part of their theories of expanding westward. Is 2488 02:15:01.920 --> 02:15:05.720 their adoration for Egypt and their their willingness to look 2489 02:15:05.840 --> 02:15:08.960 for the things that they kept secret from all the 2490 02:15:09.039 --> 02:15:09.640 rest of the world. 2491 02:15:10.359 --> 02:15:13.479 And I think they saw similar of meso America. 2492 02:15:14.279 --> 02:15:14.479 Yep. 2493 02:15:14.600 --> 02:15:17.880 Yeah, because that one priest, the archaeologist was his name, 2494 02:15:18.279 --> 02:15:20.880 the French guy. He he's the one that first proposed 2495 02:15:20.880 --> 02:15:25.119 there's a connection really with with Central America and Egypt, 2496 02:15:25.279 --> 02:15:28.159 and then a lot of Freemasons ironically adopted that Catholics 2497 02:15:28.199 --> 02:15:31.399 believe and even though he was basically wrong. I mean, 2498 02:15:31.439 --> 02:15:33.439 there might have been some distant connection because there aren't 2499 02:15:33.439 --> 02:15:36.119 trade route winds that go straight to meso America if 2500 02:15:36.159 --> 02:15:38.199 you took from Egypt. Sure, but it's like a one way, 2501 02:15:38.560 --> 02:15:41.960 one way route unless you have more advanced sailing techniques. 2502 02:15:42.039 --> 02:15:44.399 But we don't see evidence that Egypt had advanced sailing 2503 02:15:44.399 --> 02:15:48.079 techniques at the level of Christopher Columbus's ships. It is 2504 02:15:48.319 --> 02:15:50.399 they just they were using their ships mainly in the 2505 02:15:50.439 --> 02:15:53.199 eastern Mediterranean and the Nile. It wasn't designed to go 2506 02:15:53.239 --> 02:15:56.199 across the Atlantic. So sure, a few may have ended 2507 02:15:56.279 --> 02:15:59.680 up in Central America, but they got stranded there. Maybe 2508 02:15:59.760 --> 02:16:03.399 they a slight influence on the American cultures there. It's 2509 02:16:03.439 --> 02:16:05.600 a possibility. I wouldn't rule that out, but I think 2510 02:16:05.640 --> 02:16:08.399 that's more of the Freemason's ideology in the early periods, 2511 02:16:08.439 --> 02:16:12.399 wanting to believe that the Americas was basically Atlantis. But 2512 02:16:12.520 --> 02:16:15.000 I don't think modern day Freemasons believe that anymore. Maybe 2513 02:16:15.119 --> 02:16:18.479 Randall Carlson well random believes in the Azers more because 2514 02:16:18.479 --> 02:16:23.600 of that mappen, But Randall's not your normal Freemason. Yeah, 2515 02:16:23.680 --> 02:16:26.479 it's hard to say. But again, people's ideas in the 2516 02:16:26.520 --> 02:16:29.760 old days, you know, eighteen hundreds, even then, it shifted 2517 02:16:29.800 --> 02:16:31.880 so much because we have so much technology now and 2518 02:16:32.000 --> 02:16:36.600 archaeological evidence to change what actually is the reality and 2519 02:16:36.719 --> 02:16:39.399 reality is it all goes back to the Middle East. 2520 02:16:42.719 --> 02:16:45.879 Sadly enough, when I was at the Cosmic Summit, out 2521 02:16:45.879 --> 02:16:48.639 of all the Freemasons, Randall Carson was the only one 2522 02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:51.280 with three bodyguards and another truck behind it. 2523 02:16:51.879 --> 02:16:54.360 So yeah, he's not like a really yeah. 2524 02:16:55.639 --> 02:16:57.440 Yeah, I don't know if he's even still in a lodge. 2525 02:16:57.479 --> 02:16:59.440 I mean, he was a former freemason, but I don't 2526 02:16:59.440 --> 02:17:00.479 know if he's really practicing. 2527 02:17:02.520 --> 02:17:04.879 We're gonna wrap it up, Jewels how to leave Actually, 2528 02:17:04.920 --> 02:17:07.760 oh he's there. He's there. Not to cut you off, 2529 02:17:07.799 --> 02:17:09.200 it's just it's been over to its fun. 2530 02:17:09.280 --> 02:17:10.079 Yeah, it's been fun. 2531 02:17:10.479 --> 02:17:12.399 Yeah, you know, it's a good discussion, lively. 2532 02:17:12.920 --> 02:17:16.959 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was fun. Real quick, uh, Peter, 2533 02:17:17.040 --> 02:17:18.479 do you want to let everybody know where they can 2534 02:17:18.479 --> 02:17:18.680 find you? 2535 02:17:20.159 --> 02:17:20.360 Yeah? 2536 02:17:20.440 --> 02:17:22.600 You can check me out my YouTube channel at nikmas 2537 02:17:22.639 --> 02:17:26.360 Seeker or on rebirse channel or on YouTuber suspects Sky. 2538 02:17:26.520 --> 02:17:28.719 I made a few videos and been on their podcast. 2539 02:17:28.799 --> 02:17:31.040 I've also been Mica and Dave's channel. We did a 2540 02:17:31.040 --> 02:17:34.799 little talk abou Atlantis there and yeah, there's a few 2541 02:17:34.879 --> 02:17:35.440 orders I've been on. 2542 02:17:37.280 --> 02:17:38.120 Awesome. Awesome. 2543 02:17:38.639 --> 02:17:42.000 We thank you very much everybody else. I'm not going 2544 02:17:42.079 --> 02:17:43.319 to because Jewels has gotta get going. 2545 02:17:43.319 --> 02:17:47.479 I'm not gonna you're dude, it's fun, right, Okay, it's 2546 02:17:47.520 --> 02:17:49.280 really real quick. Let everybody know where they could find 2547 02:17:49.280 --> 02:17:49.959 your amazing work. 2548 02:17:51.040 --> 02:17:54.639 Thanks, you know, obviously these are just my opinions. Thanks 2549 02:17:54.680 --> 02:17:57.760 everybody in the chat, and thanks for being you know, 2550 02:17:58.600 --> 02:18:01.159 a team player, Peter, because I know we had some 2551 02:18:01.479 --> 02:18:03.959 differing opinions, and I think it's important not to be 2552 02:18:04.040 --> 02:18:06.520 a candy ass though. I'm going to tell you what 2553 02:18:06.680 --> 02:18:08.799 I think, and you know you can debate me, and 2554 02:18:09.360 --> 02:18:12.600 that'll just make me have to prove myself, which is great. 2555 02:18:12.799 --> 02:18:15.600 You know, we should all be challenged from time to time. 2556 02:18:16.440 --> 02:18:19.000 If you like anything I said, you can check out 2557 02:18:19.079 --> 02:18:21.559 Cosmic Peach podcast. But thanks for having me Nick, It 2558 02:18:21.680 --> 02:18:23.760 was really fun. I enjoyed the conversation. 2559 02:18:25.600 --> 02:18:29.799 Thank you very much, Julie. And Hello's Giant, sir, Thank 2560 02:18:29.799 --> 02:18:30.319 you very much. 2561 02:18:30.600 --> 02:18:32.959 You can find me at the Headless Giant on Twitter 2562 02:18:33.120 --> 02:18:37.520 and on Instagram and on YouTube. This Sunday, we've got 2563 02:18:37.559 --> 02:18:41.040 the Trialogus coming up with Ethan and Ricardo and that's 2564 02:18:41.079 --> 02:18:42.840 gonna be an awesome time, and as well as a 2565 02:18:43.040 --> 02:18:47.360 big discussion about oh man, I'm blanking what is it? 2566 02:18:47.440 --> 02:18:47.600 Dick? 2567 02:18:48.479 --> 02:18:52.440 What the guy later on in the day with Mithrus. 2568 02:18:52.479 --> 02:18:56.079 Oh yes, yes, yes, that's at eleven, that's at eleven, 2569 02:18:57.000 --> 02:18:59.959 at eleven and five. I got this guy from my astrology. 2570 02:19:00.879 --> 02:19:01.319 You got it. 2571 02:19:01.440 --> 02:19:03.719 It's gonna be awesome. And then I've got Alchemy Mondays 2572 02:19:03.760 --> 02:19:06.680 coming up and my mail bag as well. If you 2573 02:19:06.799 --> 02:19:09.840 send me an email at Headless Giant podcast at gmail 2574 02:19:09.879 --> 02:19:12.479 dot com about your cult experience. We can get some 2575 02:19:12.600 --> 02:19:16.159 stickers out to you, so definitely send me your email 2576 02:19:16.239 --> 02:19:19.040 with your address and we will get that up. 2577 02:19:19.559 --> 02:19:23.079 Thank you, Thank you so and real quick, cheles. Let 2578 02:19:23.120 --> 02:19:25.360 everybody know what's up with you guys. 2579 02:19:25.399 --> 02:19:30.600 It is fun show, great presentation man. Y'all can find 2580 02:19:30.639 --> 02:19:33.680 me on Twitter at Gray Pill Pod, Instagram, Great Pult 2581 02:19:33.760 --> 02:19:37.799 Underscore Podcast. I'm on Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, all 2582 02:19:37.840 --> 02:19:41.159 that good stuff, Patreon dot com, Slash Great Pill Podcast 2583 02:19:42.159 --> 02:19:44.760 doing a lot of cool things over there. You get 2584 02:19:44.760 --> 02:19:48.959 a free sticker pack. We do Patreon exclusive content, esotery 2585 02:19:49.000 --> 02:19:51.040 book reviews. Go check out the one from this morning 2586 02:19:51.079 --> 02:19:53.600 before I make it private. It was a good time. 2587 02:19:53.639 --> 02:19:56.680 We had Nick and Headless there with me, Subliminola and Rat. 2588 02:19:58.479 --> 02:20:01.520 Next week we're reading the au Is so that that 2589 02:20:01.600 --> 02:20:05.680 should be fun. But yeah, check out our show we 2590 02:20:05.760 --> 02:20:10.280 did last night on the I'm blanking the Servant in 2591 02:20:10.319 --> 02:20:16.239 the Rainbow with Annie and Robert. Uh, I'm blanking on 2592 02:20:16.440 --> 02:20:19.079 names dude, Robbie Marks. 2593 02:20:19.559 --> 02:20:19.680 Uh. 2594 02:20:20.639 --> 02:20:25.000 It is a great time banger episode and uh yeah, 2595 02:20:25.200 --> 02:20:27.280 you'll check out our episodes Tomorrow I'll be doing a 2596 02:20:27.360 --> 02:20:30.200 deep dive tomorrow night. I'm pretty sure my part two 2597 02:20:30.239 --> 02:20:33.040 on The Green Man, So y'all keep a lookout for 2598 02:20:33.159 --> 02:20:37.360 a time posted on that. Yeah, Patreon is the best 2599 02:20:37.360 --> 02:20:40.000 way to support the show, and look out this next week. 2600 02:20:40.000 --> 02:20:43.760 I got a bunch of shows this I think Robbie. 2601 02:20:43.760 --> 02:20:46.040 Speaking of Robbie, he's coming on this next week. Uh 2602 02:20:46.680 --> 02:20:54.959 let me uh Wednesday. Him and Doc both book Wednesday night, 2603 02:20:55.159 --> 02:20:57.559 So I'm gonna have to work that out somehow, So 2604 02:20:57.760 --> 02:20:59.920 one of them will be Wednesday night, maybe the the 2605 02:21:00.079 --> 02:21:02.520 one Monday or I don't know. I'll have to get 2606 02:21:02.559 --> 02:21:07.920 at them tomorrow. And then Dana from Rotting Jewels will 2607 02:21:07.959 --> 02:21:10.920 be on Thursday, so that's gonna be a banger. And 2608 02:21:11.000 --> 02:21:13.639 me and Headless have our Rustic Gods episode that we'll 2609 02:21:13.639 --> 02:21:16.399 be doing this week, probably next weekend since we're so 2610 02:21:16.520 --> 02:21:19.520 busy this weekend, so y'all stay tuned for that. But 2611 02:21:20.280 --> 02:21:24.319 until next time, everybody, this this was this was a 2612 02:21:24.360 --> 02:21:25.079 great episode. 2613 02:21:25.639 --> 02:21:29.239 All right, thank you guys, We'll do yeah, thank you all, 2614 02:21:29.280 --> 02:21:30.920 and thank you everybody in the chat. I appreciate it. 2615 02:21:30.959 --> 02:21:33.120 There was a lot of comments on everybody's chat all 2616 02:21:33.120 --> 02:21:35.200 over there. I was stuck in the chat actually, at 2617 02:21:35.200 --> 02:21:38.360 one point so thank you all very much. There's definitely 2618 02:21:38.399 --> 02:21:40.200 some stuff and then definitely check the check out. 2619 02:21:40.799 --> 02:21:43.159 And again, thank you all for coming on the show. 2620 02:21:43.200 --> 02:21:46.600 I really appreciate everybody making the time for Yeah, and 2621 02:21:46.680 --> 02:21:48.559 that is the end of another could rejectcent until the 2622 02:21:48.600 --> 02:21:49.559 next one tomorrow. 2623 02:21:49.719 --> 02:21:51.000 Everybody be well later. 2624 02:21:54.360 --> 02:21:58.479 The continent of Atlantis was an island which lay before 2625 02:21:58.559 --> 02:22:01.559 the Great Flood, in the area we now call the 2626 02:22:01.639 --> 02:22:07.639 Atlantic Ocean, so great an area of land that from 2627 02:22:07.719 --> 02:22:12.360 her western shores, those beautiful sailors journeyed to the South 2628 02:22:13.440 --> 02:22:17.319 and the North Americas with ease in their ships with 2629 02:22:17.520 --> 02:22:18.479 painted sails. 2630 02:22:23.319 --> 02:22:23.959 To the east. 2631 02:22:24.399 --> 02:22:30.479 Africa was her neighbor, across a short strait of sea miles. 2632 02:22:33.559 --> 02:22:36.079 The Great Egyptian Age is but a remnant of the 2633 02:22:36.120 --> 02:22:44.079 Atlantean culture. The Antediluvian kings colonized the world. All the 2634 02:22:44.159 --> 02:22:47.760 gods who play in the mythological dramas in all legends 2635 02:22:47.840 --> 02:22:57.280 from all lands where from fair Atlantis. Knowing her fate, 2636 02:22:57.680 --> 02:23:00.479 Atlantis sent out ships to all corners of the earth, 2637 02:23:01.280 --> 02:23:06.440 on board with the twelve, the poet, the physician, the farmer, 2638 02:23:06.920 --> 02:23:10.319 the scientist, the magician, and the other so called gods 2639 02:23:10.399 --> 02:23:14.959 of our legends. Though gods they were, And as the 2640 02:23:15.040 --> 02:23:19.719 elders of our time choose to remain blind, let us rejoice, 2641 02:23:19.760 --> 02:23:22.760 and let us sing and dance and ring in the 2642 02:23:22.879 --> 02:23:27.000 new hailed atlantis. 2643 02:23:30.000 --> 02:23:51.719 Below the shanty. She may be way, shany me, she 2644 02:23:51.959 --> 02:23:52.399 may be. 2645 02:24:02.799 --> 02:24:03.079 Known. 2646 02:24:04.239 --> 02:24:04.920 She made me