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Speaker 3: Leaning a man.

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Speaker 2: O great. Uh, he's a wondering bird. There was supposed

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to be an intro there, but that you've broken. He's

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not doing anything.

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Speaker 3: So remember why do we get the first second?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I did it again. Let's can we try again one

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more sil Let's try sure, leaning a man.

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Speaker 7: Like this man learn butterfly flatin his wing, big ban

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in on the forest.

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Speaker 2: Man. It will cause a tree.

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Speaker 7: Fall leven five miles a man.

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Speaker 3: Nobody see, nobody might see. You don't need no man.

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He got back up, go back and back the pan.

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Speaker 2: All right, bird, welcome to jabird show.

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Speaker 3: You just gotta do it twice.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you how frustrated I am with stream yards.

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So I actually brought my full recording set up like

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everything I'll use and uh it just didn't work, like

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refuse to work. The exact same setup simply transported to

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a different location. And uh, I'm already switching with podcasting.

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Uh host I use because it's such a pained use

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lips and uh, I'll be on a street nerds unnotice

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too if I can find someone else to let me

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do live streaming. This, this level of service is astonishingly poor.

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Speaker 3: I've never had a problem with restream, but I don't

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do live streaming. Are we live? Are there people watching

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right now?

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Speaker 2: No? There are, but every like every three to four

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weeks I decide to go live, and so that somehow

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justifies my uh my purchase of this awful software. Isn't

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this great podcasting? Just podcasters complaining?

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Speaker 3: You sound so sick?

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Speaker 2: I really do. It's that bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you I literally lie. You sound like you could

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be in a hospital bed right now.

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Speaker 2: That's funny. I feel like it, okay, sick that much.

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And even this one, it's like the voice sounds worse

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to actually feel. But without fail dissident soaks will just

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comet grids time I sound anything less than perfectly healthy,

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And that's acknowledging. The bit is probably the worst thing

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I could ever do. But it's gotten in my head

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so much that literally, every time I feel a tickle

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in the back of my throat, that's all I can

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think about. Like I don't have grids, I don't have grits.

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Speaker 3: I commend you for podcasting while sick, because I will not.

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I refuse to do it, and the listeners will simply

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have to deal with that.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 2: See, this is the difference. It Actually, this brings us

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to our thanksgiving gimmick, the difference between my religious tradition

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and yours. So obviously you know that the work ethic

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is part of it. But uh, are you familiar? Are

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you familiar with one Jack Chick?

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm a huge fan of Jack Chick.

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Speaker 2: Me too. How did you discover his work.

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Speaker 3: By being Catholic on the internet?

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's see, despite growing up in the Bible Belt,

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lady vaguely connected to, you know, my parents, who had

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set up where she would like take a bunch of

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kids for like a week in summer and teach them

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how to get into college. Now did this work? No, well,

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didn't get anyone into college. No, it did make her

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marginally wealthier, which I think was the real goal. But

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she did this like college prep camp, which was just

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getting lectured at by a lady with short guide blonde hair,

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and like an old Baptist church out in the middle

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of nowhere. And so during like some session where she

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just wandering around and we're in the basement, and we

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found two things which were incredibly entertaining. One the late

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nineties toy mister Bucket, infamous for slatious bagline. And the

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other thing was a like comedic trash bag full of

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Jack Chick tracks which are funny. And so I'm discovered

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that you can read all of these Chick tracks on

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his website, including ones on false religions, including Catholicism. Soberto,

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your Thanksgiving is being in the hot seat. I'm gonna

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make you defend.

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Speaker 3: A little apologetics. Great, my favorite subject. The problem. I

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have to say, what do you mean by Bible belt

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like deep South?

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Speaker 2: I won't say exactly where I live, but in a

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place where multiple very famous evangelical preachers are from.

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Speaker 3: Okay, event, that's kind of I should have asked it

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in that way. That's kind of what I was more

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does not mean very much specifically, So you grew up

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in a non denominational evangelical no situation.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in the same faith pudition I'm a

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part of now, which is like oftentimes called a reform tradition,

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which is basically John Calvin tends to be.

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Speaker 3: Very you're a presby?

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Speaker 2: Are you a presby?

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Speaker 3: Doesn't count? That surely can't count, does evangelical.

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Speaker 2: But here's what I'm saying. But my grandparents, who spent

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large forces of my childhood raising me, did go to

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like multiple giant Baptist churches out in the middle or like,

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jarring because that's not the church that I went to

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every Sunday, but I'd end up there, you know, thirty

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of the uh, the contrast, this is how I got

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shown outpaida execution videos like fourth grader youth Faster who

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was like, this is what Muslims are gonna do to you? Yeah,

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what's a Muslim.

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Speaker 3: Read this? Yeah? So I suppose you probably missed out

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on Jack Chick because he isn't as far as I

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understand it, and has never been a like standard.

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Speaker 2: You know Bible belts see sternally focused like going after

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the other guys. You know.

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Speaker 3: Well, he certainly is a parody, comic or whatever you

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would call that. He writes, uh parodies. But I actually,

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if I'm not mistaken, Jack Chick's work is largely suppressed

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or at least ignored by Southern Baptist, Methodist Presbyterian churches

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as far as I understand it, because what I do

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know about Jack Chick is that, first of all, the

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how would you say this? You know, like LifeWay, you

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know that store, you know, life Way, So LifeWay didn't

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carry Chick materials, and so because of that, it never

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really circulated around.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 3: Those three I guess those are the evangelical traditions, Southern Baptist,

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United Methodist, and the Presbyterian, at least the more conservative Presbyterian.

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Speaker 2: Here's so basically not to get too much into this,

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but basically, eatangelical as a term is incredibly broad, and

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it can mean one of several things. Probably the most

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honest literal description, which doesn't matter, is basically conservative Protestant.

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crisis in Protestant Christianity, which is about one hundred and

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ten years ago. You have what are now considered the

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mainline denominations, which if you've ever seen like Protestant rage

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bait on the internet, which is like some shor haired

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aging lesbian from like Massachusetts.

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Speaker 3: You're like PCUSA or one or whatever.

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 2: Every denomination, Yeah, every subgroup had a slit in the

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nineteen twenties. The reason it was called the modernist crisis

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is that a lot of old American institutions like Harvard

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and Yale were like seminaries and they had basically, by

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the standards of our time, quote unquote, gone awoke, and

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it started pushing out ideas in birth.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, what is woke in the

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nineteen twenty is that, okay, yes, denying the version, denying

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so scientism cut right like kind of like denying miracle

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and that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Almost every single faith group in the US. And if

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you're wondering why are there so many like splintering like

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factional groups, this is largely why because when people left,

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they didn't all leave it once. They did and all

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leave in the same direction. And so basically the main

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you know, churches that contain the word evangelical where they

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have bishops. They're very fuzzy. But that's probably the broadest term.

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something more specific, that is the as you said, the

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kind of like Baptist, non denominational, like mass market Christian culture.

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self conscious and interested in being acceptable. So when you

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look at the kind of like sneakers with preachers stuff,

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like the kind of.

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Speaker 3: Church is that like Justin Bieber goes to and sure

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like backwards caps sitting on the chair of the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: That is an outgrowth of that where they're really trying

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to lean it and so Jack Chick is a he's

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a he's a relic of the bad times, and there's

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a desire to kind of string him under the rug

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because of the city. Either kind of comedic. Now, also, right,

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you and I have a friend in common. I don't

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know by what name you know him, but he's sort

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of like a a very Catholic guy, different name on

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different platforms, but he'll know what.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Actually, she's my mole in quote the Catholic discord.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yes, our Catholic fraternal discord channel very powerful.

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Speaker 2: By the way, make sure if you're wondering if this character.

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Speaker 3: You have multiple people who you talk to who are

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you something you may not know about Jack Jack Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, for instance, I was telling him about this idea,

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uh and the fact that I find Jack Chick to

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be genuinely like hilaritous, and he was like, oh, yeah,

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small town in the middle of nowhere, Missouri. Uh, the

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Catholic church that he grew up going to was right

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next to the craziest Pentecostal church in Town, the one

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that basically, you know, they you know, flopped on the ground,

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you know, tongues all that.

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Speaker 2: No, they are well by Protestants.

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Speaker 3: Well so I don't know, man, Okay, I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: This is like you're trying to explain the Jesuits to me.

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Speaker 2: Also want you to know it is not really in

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any cohesive argument. I just find Jade it be very

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funny too, and more funny exposing him to someone who

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kind of knows what he is trying to get at

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instead of me where I'm just like, I don't know.

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the way you look at the like crazy like South

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we're like, I guess there ares I.

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Speaker 3: Guess, Oh, crazy South American stuff like the Catholic Communists,

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like the Liberation theology stuff is weird, like, oh, they're syncretic. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: Like, Okay, I guess I can't like you're more hours

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than anything else. Sure, it's it's a very much a

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weird mix of and again I know I'm gonna get

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people mad, but like wich mix of weird African stuff.

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Speaker 3: I like the idea, by the way, I think talking

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about the italianness of the Vatican as being weird African stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was referring to. May make that argument.

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Uh So, there are several things that actually you this

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exact same formula as like a medieval morality play right,

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seal right when they're following the traveling play rights around

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where there's two distinct paths. There's either the you know,

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the the altar call, or there is you know, the

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rejection of God, the rejection of logos to quote one

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of your guys, and most of my main cartoon astonishments

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immediately like stepping.

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Speaker 3: Around, well that I mean that is possibly one of them.

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Interesting things about Jack Chick is that he was a

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lot like Robert Crumb in that he had a classic

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Disney style of depicting people, but he also had these

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like grotesque so be said, like people had these Disney

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eyes and Disney bodies, but they were burning in pits

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of flame and skewered on pikes. And this is these

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like horrific grotesque images over this vaguely Disney style.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It really was brilliant shock value stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, And that's exactly if you can imagine, right,

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you know, fourteen year old burdenman Cole and digging through

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the dusty church basement in the middle of nowhere, opening

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up a trash bag and finding exactly that, right, what

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appears to be a kind of generic, you know, religious comic,

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you know, from a previous generation, and then flipping the

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page and it's some like grotesque man in full leather

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gear he directed. Give it the hell? Yeah, yeah, this

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is enough to grab attention.

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Speaker 3: How much do you actually know about Jack Chick the Man?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Literally nothing?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you so he was first of all, he

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was the ultra philo Semite. He was a uh, he

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was a premillennial dispensationalist. He's, as far as I understand it,

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he has never written a particularly negative tract against that group.

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And one more, hold on, wait because this is the kicker. Wait,

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this is a kicker. He believed, or at least depicted

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in his comics that the Jesuits committed the Holocaust. Yes,

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it wasn't just a Nazi project, it was it was

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an or it was a basically an inquisition that was

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orchestrated by the Jesuits.

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Speaker 2: So Jack Chick's website is broken down by different categories.

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And you remember what I introduced a series on Catholicism.

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I said that it was filed under false religions and then, yeah,

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you don't have any other religions feature in that. Uh

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two two there are two which is Mormon, no Catholics,

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's also.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen different tracks in the quote black tract series, which

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I don't know if I can this.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so way, Judaism is not in the false religions.

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Speaker 2: Is not mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, because he has made comics. Uh. For instance,

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regarding Judaism, regards like a rabbi who on his deathbed

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discovers that Jesus is the Messiah. That's the worst thing

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he could think of.

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Speaker 2: The death ed conversion is a common one. Uh. One

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of my favorite ones in his uh his urban series

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is one called It's Let's Make a Deal, which is

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about a UH man who sells his soul to the

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devil uh and it becomes really good at basketball.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. He had such an inventive mind. I don't know,

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is this is so much you could say? But so so?

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a box in a basement on a completely organ. Okay, interesting,

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very interesting. So what they were kind of known for,

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especially during what you call the Satanic Panic, which was

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they would go, well, he and his adherents, I don't

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really know. One thing I was never sure was like

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that I really admire actually, which I would call I

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would call gorilla evangelism. Gorilla evangelism is what I would

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call it. And what they would what they would basically

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go around and do is Jack Chick would make and

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print out the zines and then they would leave them

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in public places, so like they pin them up in

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a laundromat board, or they'd leave them in phone booths

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or on restaurant tables. They so they would do this.

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you had prepped me about this a while ago, and

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so I went back into Jackchick. One thing that I

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saw that they had done is they Jack Chick made

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the back of one of the zines look like a

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Speaker 8: It was.

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Speaker 3: Like a Masonic it was supposed to be like an

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anti Masonic ledger, and they made the back of it

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look like a dollar bill. And then they would just

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kind of leave them on the ground because people thought

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it was money, and then they would pick it up

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and find out it was a Jack Chick tract. So

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I really admire this style of trickery me too.

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Speaker 2: And Bird, let me offer you a hypothetical deal. I

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will either give you one dollar or a ninety two

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year old's recluse his personal theory about the Mason's hand

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illustrated wish to your bill.

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Speaker 3: It's exactly exactly right to me. That's delivering value right there.

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You pick it up, you think dollar, you pick it up,

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and it's really basically one hundred dollars bill in your

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Speaker 2: It's priceless. I mean, you've done well with your uh,

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your radio Babbylon series. And I think one of the

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big areas for improvement is that, uh, the host you're covering,

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he might be onto something. I think that's all wrong.

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You need to find someone who is clearly onto nothing.

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Speaker 7: Just ran.

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Speaker 2: That's I think the direction the series needs to take.

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Speaker 3: After your we have actually been outlining a crazy person

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that we may cover as a joke. So you're onto

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something there.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I'm going to in bluck. I'm not

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going to read through these. There's there's a little bit

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of leftist memory in these, which is they can be

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pretty dense as regards text, and again, this is primarily

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an audio show to summarize what we're looking at. Uh,

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let me you.

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Speaker 3: You've got to put this up on video. I don't know.

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I don't want to pressure you, but or you have

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to name the comics so people can look at it

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with us.

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Speaker 2: All right, can you see that bird?

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Speaker 3: Wow? What a great website.

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Speaker 2: This is a great website.

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Speaker 3: Oh you can buy them as cases.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, only twenty one cents each.

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Speaker 3: Amazing. All right, dungeons that they're gonna find a lot

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of dungeons and dragons stuff here too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So for context, this is one of several tracks

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on Catholicism will be awful truth. So it starts off

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explaining Satan, right, so he gets kicked out of heaven.

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How he wants to take you all the hell? You

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just kind of basic stuff. There is this particular panel

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to the Only Amusing where he talks about giving the

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land of Cane and his offspring. Oh shoot, how do

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I get back to this?

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Speaker 9: For the twelve Days of Christmas euros far had for

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me twelve Christmas billings, eleven cakes of baking, ten salmon smoking,

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nine Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Crackers, eight Lovely Jesus, seven sheets of wrapping, six stocking.

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Speaker 12: Fill f missspon for Christmas, case, three Brussels rows, two

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turkey legs, and Christmas made super easy spine.

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Speaker 13: You're super easy supermarket.

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Speaker 2: Well you can see, uh, the devil there pick a

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great profile pictures all that is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a great one.

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Speaker 2: There's so many, there are so many. And by the way,

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for this goes in a direction I guarantee you were

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not expecting. Okay, So the first like eight or nine

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pages basic you know, gospel stuff. But here right after

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talking about the persecution of Christians. She'd given his Holy

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Scriptures to the a church and you know, will not

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Speaker 5: But.

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Speaker 2: Another great proleist.

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Speaker 3: Satan would make. Satan would make his own church. It

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would be powerful and called holy, and it's Satan hugging

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the dome of the Vatican. And uh now, obviously we

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could make some remarks about Satan's physiognomy here, but I

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find it remarkable how Porto rican he looks actually.

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Speaker 2: You know, uh, I guarantee you, mister chick has not

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thought about either of the implications of That makes this

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very funny. This is maximally conspiratory along someone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Credible on others true. This is sort of like Denver Riggleman,

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who you know this is?

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Speaker 3: Look at page twelve. The ruthless Caesars of Rome were

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replaced by a den of religious vipers. The pope says,

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how do I look? And some priests goes like God.

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Speaker 2: So it's talking about how they created new rituals that

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were not of God, and weird new words appeared like quote, hopes, nods, adult,

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which I just like how everything is put into uh

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put in the scare quotes, the.

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Speaker 3: Uh so we're gonna bigger lies came the precious faithful

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Catholics were being set up for hol and there's the Pharisees.

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transition is awesome. Wow, I forgot the Jesuits read the Talmud.

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Speaker 2: Uh so, by the way, man, look at page fifteen,

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we are already going away.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, okay, yeah, can we cover page fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the page fourteen the Council

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of trind that's amusing, but.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so let me read it page fifteen. Read this, yeah, yeah,

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So there's a couple of different lines, the topmost line

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and then it splits three ways. The topmost line says

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Roman Catholicism is called quote the Great Whore, the mother

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of Harlot's see Revelations seventeen through nineteen. Here are only

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three of her deadly daughters. Now, listeners who can't see this,

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take take take three guesses in your mind as to

478
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what the deadly daughters of Roman Catholicism are, and then

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will I will now read them. Number one Islam created

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to eliminate Christians and Jews in the Middle East. Like mother,

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like daughter, both want to rule the world. Okay, that

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was the first one. Number two Communism, the child of

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Roman Catholicism, created to take over the world through revolution

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and executions. Communism is alive and well, hiding under names

485
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like progressive and state capitalism.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, base Jack chick therein of base.

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Speaker 3: And number three, the third deadly daughter of the Great Whore,

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Nazism created to make the world Roman Catholic and terminate

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the Jewish people, pushed by Pope Pious the eleventh.

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Speaker 2: Which is a a It's a different take than you

491
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,920
often see from miss certain because normally they will lean

492
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:18,000
into the pagan elements of yeah that's true, yeah, which

493
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I think is this is why you know, you were

494
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,440
joking about the connection the you know, Jesuits had with

495
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a certain ethnic cleansing. Uh. I sort of thought you

496
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:31,960
were kind of joking until I got to this point

497
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and everyone's like, oh no, that's actually that's the genuine belief.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's the take, you know, I can I say

499
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,480
just and this is maybe the funniest part. Possibly a

500
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,359
tenth of your audience right now is going has he

501
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,559
lied yet?

502
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

503
00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:54,759
Speaker 3: At least one tenth of your audience is fully bought

504
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:58,640
into everything so far, possibly a corner of your audience.

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00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,599
Speaker 2: Not only that, but the roughly five to ten percent

506
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:09,000
of my orthodox audience are furiously typing out how they're

507
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the specialist you appreciatedy, and how this is stupid fractual

508
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in fighting.

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Speaker 3: Oh well I have something. I have something for them, actually, Okay.

510
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,559
One thing that I read was that in a different tract, chick.

511
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:31,000
It's called the Godfathers, or rather it's part of the Yes,

512
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:34,319
it's called the Godfathers. Is the the tract part of

513
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:41,640
his Alberto comic series. He argues that the Vaikan created

514
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communism because now listen to this. He argues that the

515
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Vatican created communism not just to do what it says

516
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,519
in this tract, but also to destroy the Russian Orthodox Church.

517
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So he which I am. There's plenty of Russian Orthodox

518
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,920
who are probably ready to get on board with that one,

519
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,000
but yeah, he he is. Basically it was a big

520
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:15,840
betrayal because the idea was that once the Communists destroyed

521
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,519
the Czar and the Orthodox Church, they were going to

522
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:23,920
allow the Roman Catholic Church to move in and uh

523
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,280
fill the vacuum. But once Lenin and the Bolsheviks seized power,

524
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obviously that they.

525
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Speaker 2: Can really start. They just start Catholics, those guys.

526
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: Yes, and and certainly not any other thing, by the way,

527
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certainly not any other thing.

528
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to guess. Okay, what

529
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is the next piece of history after page nineteen, which

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covers Martin Luther, where do you think we go?

531
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Speaker 3: Hold on, let me see, so innocent, the third, who

532
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was very based Pope. The other the tenth, who is

533
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:03,800
also very based. Okay, so Luther was marked Ford. Okay,

534
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,559
so this is the end of Worm's era. Okay. The

535
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:09,599
next thing we're talking about is.

536
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Speaker 2: We'll get the you're wrong.

537
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Speaker 3: Oh, I never would have guessed. This is what I'm saying.

538
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,920
I never would have guessed. Wait a minute, wait, Roman

539
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:29,800
Catholics engineered the assassination of President Lincoln. What that's not

540
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even fair.

541
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Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. This is what this is.

542
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,199
What makes it distract so fun is that you think,

543
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,679
you know, being kind of you've been around conspiracy culture

544
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,320
as long as I Hadberg, right, you start to notice patterns.

545
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:49,599
Your pattern recognition will not help you here. It never

546
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:51,119
goes where you think it's to go.

547
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,599
Speaker 3: I have no idea if Jack Chick ever wrote a

548
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:58,719
tract about the Klan. Now that I'm thinking about it,

549
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:08,320
I'm looking it up right now, because that's an outrageous accusation. Okay.

550
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,039
And the next one is about JFK.

551
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Speaker 14: Yeah, so the next one says, the next one says,

552
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,599
it was said that JFK put the US Constitution above

553
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Catholic dogma.

554
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Speaker 3: Did that cost him his life. Ex Jesuit priest Alberto

555
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:33,519
Rivera claims it did, and that's why he brought Oswald

556
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:38,760
into Texas. Oh, I get it. Okay. So this is

557
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:46,119
so funny because there's two There's this strand of belief,

558
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which is admittedly extremely marginal, but then there's the much

559
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,320
wider belief that JFK was a Catholic infiltrator who wanted

560
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to basically create an integralist empire in the United States.

561
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,880
So you're as a Catholic, you're kind of getting it

562
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,360
from both sides, even though the first side is very

563
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,239
marginal and small. It's actually really funny. It's like, can

564
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we get a we need a break here, we need

565
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Cat's cats, some kind of break.

566
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Speaker 2: You're really gonna get from both sides there.

567
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: I know, what are you looking at? Right? That's what

568
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:24,360
I think.

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Speaker 2: It's less entertaining than what I'm looking for. We'll go

570
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We'll go to another one. So this is it's a deal,

571
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,239
right deal, which is from a different series. This is

572
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from his uh, his Urban Gospel one. Right, So we've uh,

573
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We've got Ben's Nell, right, who's on the orches, straight

574
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and narrow. He's doing well, he's gonna get married. This

575
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is another great profile. There's so many good ones. Is

576
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so grotesque, but uh.

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Speaker 3: Look at how he draws black people.

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00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,639
Speaker 2: That is incredible.

579
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 3: Wow, it's like that. But it's like it's almost like

580
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,639
the Boon Docks and almost looks like the Boon Docks.

581
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Speaker 2: So it's uh, brothers the victim of a of a

582
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drive by shooting. Again, man, you or I couldn't draw this.

583
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:27,599
Only no, no, only he could. So his brother has killed,

584
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,880
everyone cries, comes to his brother's shouteral uh. He decides

585
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,480
he needs to do a deal with the devil, sell

586
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:39,920
his soul to be famous. And this man, who additionally

587
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looks like sort of a of a boon Dock states

588
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or Boon Docks as character.

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Speaker 3: Y oh my god. Yeah, we should actually read this

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one in black scent.

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Speaker 2: I can't for Thanksgiving. I'm already on good ice with

592
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:03,639
the coming out of this room. It's all that you

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do it if you want, because this only gets better

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and you go through the back half of this.

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Speaker 3: With you know energy.

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Speaker 3: So they need a pimp. They're playing some basketball. The

614
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pimp is named Denzel.

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Speaker 2: No Denzel as our hero.

616
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Speaker 3: The hero is Denzel My apologies.

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Speaker 2: So he confirms that a man who basically says, you know,

618
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what what are you doing back here? Is implying this

619
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is the man who shot his brother, and he said,

620
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,360
watching me sink that basket from here and shoots a

621
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:30,480
full court shot with his power from the devil Ah

622
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six months later.

623
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Speaker 3: That is incredible. The full court shot is an incredible image.

624
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Speaker 2: What do you think about this? It's it's a modern

625
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,840
day Faust, right. The details are slightly.

626
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Speaker 3: Different, far more brilliant than Faust.

627
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Speaker 2: They win the championship game and got his his hummer one.

628
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: Uh sure, the Maybach the extendo Maybak.

629
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:08,679
Speaker 2: Give you a second, I'm going to find the Can

630
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,760
you still see the screen here?

631
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,199
Speaker 3: No, it's it's blanked out. Let me tell you what

632
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,719
I am currently learning while you are searching. Let me

633
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,119
tell you what I am currently learning about his theory

634
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:22,440
regarding the creation of the ku Klux Klan, which having

635
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,679
read three of these tracks, you'll be able to clearly

636
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,480
guess who he thought formed it. Take one, guess who

637
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,079
he thought formed the ku Klux Klan.

638
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: Was it the Catholics?

639
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: It was the Vatican? Yeah, it was. It's always, by

640
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,639
the way, it's always the Vatican. He always targets the Vati.

641
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,119
He doesn't actually target Catholics. He views us the way

642
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:45,199
he views Jews. I think that we're just sort of

643
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,000
lost until we, you know, we find the truth. But

644
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:55,239
the Vatican, he says, the Vatican created the ku Klux Klan.

645
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,840
And this is a part of what Chick called I

646
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,119
think he actually called this, but I would certainly call

647
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:06,400
it this. It's called unified field theory, which is basically

648
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,360
the idea that Catholicism has created every bad thing. Ever,

649
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:16,159
so the idea is to convinced. Okay, so here it is,

650
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,800
I'll try to convince you. Number one, he argued that

651
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,760
the KKK was created by the Vatican as an active,

652
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,239
controlled opposition. This is the first supposition that he has

653
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,519
the Vatican. Basically, the Vatican said, there's all these legitimate

654
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,800
Bible believing Christians that hate the Pope, and so to

655
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,280
kind of defame them and make them bad, the Jesuits

656
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,920
created the KKK as a violent, racist, Protestant terror group,

657
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,840
and by doing that he was able to link the

658
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,960
Vatican to anti Catholicism, and so he was able to

659
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:57,280
kind of create a Catholic Church that plays both sides right. Obviously,

660
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,519
another thing, of course, we just saw the historical revisionism,

661
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:06,119
which is again heavily featured in the Alberto series where

662
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,199
the Jesuits were behind the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. So

663
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:14,639
what are the reasons the proofs that he gives lays

664
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:18,239
out in the Alberto series for the KKK number one,

665
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,840
the visual evidence and to the chick, this was the strongest.

666
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,239
They have a capi rote, you know, the tall cap,

667
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:32,599
they have the smock, and they they did marches in

668
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:36,280
a processional style much like what occurs in Spain during

669
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Holy Weeks, specifically in the city of Seville, where the

670
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,880
penitents and flagulence will go down the street. And this

671
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is what this is what American blacks see every year,

672
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,119
go around and they go, oh my god, the Klan

673
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:52,639
and the and all the Catholics are like, you guys

674
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:59,440
have got to learn to read. So that's the first evidence.

675
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,280
He basically argued that the liturgical you know, costume that

676
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was imported from Spain was it was meant to mock

677
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Protestants in a way, which I'm not even going We've

678
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done Mystery Babylon. I'm not even gonna focus on this.

679
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:16,719
If you want to know, I've actually I think I

680
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,880
have addressed this specific thing before on a Mystery Babylon episode.

681
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:26,280
But anyway, number two, number two, the Confederate generals who

682
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:34,159
claimed infiltration from the Vatican. So Jefferson Davis uh. Chick

683
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claimed that the Pope this was the only world leader

684
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that the Pope recognized was Jefferson Davis was very very specific.

685
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Speaker 2: But you remember that he also recognized, at least according

686
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to the previous comic, a certain Austra Haty Chancellor.

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Speaker 3: Well sure, I mean, yes, different pope, but yes, that's

688
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actually that's part of the point is he will tie

689
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that in later.

690
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Speaker 2: But of course it's just like like Pentecostal reditism, like

691
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the plane all on the same side.

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Speaker 3: Well, of course, but the most damning one was Nathan Bedford.

693
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Forrest was a Freemason, and so you go, well, every

694
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,880
Catholic who's listening is going so that surely can't be

695
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,800
our guy, right, No, no, no, no, Chick believes that

696
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,519
Freemasonry itself was controlled by the Black Pope, who was

697
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the Jesuits General. That's the leader of the Jesuits. Is

698
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,000
called the Black Pope in a derogatory way, because the

699
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:47,000
idea is that he's sort of the underground Pope, the

700
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Black Pope. No, no, no, not as far as I

701
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:54,800
am you have seen lately. I think he's a little

702
00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:01,599
Asian man today. So basically his claim is that wild

703
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,880
Chick was a you know, exoterically a rabid anti Catholic Mason,

704
00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:11,599
which is what Catholics are always saying about Masons. But anyway,

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he was actually because masonry itself was a foundational a

706
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foundation of the Jesuits. Forrest was actually just a pawn

707
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of the Vatican. So no matter what you do, you

708
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are either a Catholic subverter or a Catholic pawn one

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way or another. So the final point, and this is

710
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this is maybe an interesting one to some people. And

711
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I didn't know about this, I admit I'm googling this one.

712
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There is the testimony of a man named Charles Chiniqui.

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And Charles Chiniqui was a former Catholic priest who was

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excommunicated in the eighteen fifties and thereafter became an anti

715
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Catholic Presbyterian minister who wrote a book called Fifty Years

716
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in the Church of Rome, where he claimed the Jesuits

717
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were responsible for starting the Civil War and assassinating Abraham Lincoln.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, dude, can I be honest?

719
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Speaker 3: I wish the Jesuits were this good. I wish the

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Jesuits moved like this, but they don't. They don't. It's

721
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just they fumble everything.

722
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I'm going to think that, uh, you know

723
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,519
Chesterton's point right, that you know, God loves the Catholic

724
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Church because there's no other than such an in calm organization.

725
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like the Jesuits very much. It's actually

726
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,559
a Catholic pastime to not like the Jesuits. So in

727
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some ways I'm sort of agreeing with Checked about some

728
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of this.

729
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's as an outside observer what I noted

730
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about your people hobbies include complaining about the Jesuits, are

731
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talking about how you're completely unified, and then the moment

732
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that anyone talks about really any other ethnic group being

733
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like the day'll count, and then not understanding what you

734
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actually think as a group. Right, But in all seriousness,

735
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so I want you to read Bird really these first

736
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,320
two panels here, because we're starting to see you will

737
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,320
hear echoes of other conspiracy theories directed towards other Austin

738
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,480
targeted groups where it's effatically just been mad lips, right,

739
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and you can substitute Catholic for an out the term,

740
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and it can really have come from a completely different website.

741
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So the first one is less important. There's some wild

742
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claims made there.

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Speaker 3: So page two to five, Page two to.

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Speaker 2: Five, Page three and four, really.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Page three and four, well we should read too,

746
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so that we set this up at least here. Here's

747
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what it says. There's an over there's a header that reads,

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is there a slight chance that the Roman Catholic in

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quotes lowercase church is not is really not Christian? Think

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of the horrifying consequences and then he lists said a

751
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bunch of horrifying consequences.

752
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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, I'll be honest, I admire his

753
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,639
flair for rhetoric, like just leading with like the conversational

754
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overhand right of think of the horrifying consequences in all

755
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:46,840
caps in a second box, like he's not wasting your time.

756
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Speaker 3: I love that these all look like they were made

757
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on microsoftwer PowerPoint. I like that they all have the

758
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kind of visual elements.

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Speaker 2: This is from Oh, these ones don't have a date.

760
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I think this is from the mid seventies.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that peak of that. All right, let me see

764
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the remainder of Okay, so page two reads, let's study

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Helen's life as a devout Roman Catholic, and then now

766
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we'll do pagtree. Helen's first sacrament is the sacrament of baptism.

767
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The Roman Catholic in Capital Institution says that it is

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one of seven channels of grace through which Helen hopes

769
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to be saved. Helen cannot be exposed to Yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: This g's while off the rip, like we are about

771
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to descend into methists.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay. Helen cannot be exposed to Jesus in

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parentheses the blessed sacrament the wayfer God, because she is

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under the influence of evil spirits. The priest exercises, Oh,

775
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I gotta go back to that.

776
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Speaker 2: Oh wait, oh, what happened here?

777
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Speaker 4: Darn it?

778
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Speaker 3: Sorry, there we are. Okay.

779
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Speaker 2: Another streams oh, you can't.

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Speaker 3: Freeze the page. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. The priest

781
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exercises the demons by anointing Helen with oil and putting

782
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salt in her mouth to preserve her from future influence

783
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of evil spirit that may have I have. I don't

784
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think I'm but there was no salt in my baptism

785
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as far as I'm aware. I don't know if this

786
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was going on in the eighties anyway.

787
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Speaker 2: Then she is baptized, sold your soul to the wafer

788
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God for God.

789
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Speaker 3: The way for God like a like a hostess. Treat

790
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the wafer God, little Debbie House amazing. At this point,

791
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he's I hope he's burning in hell anyway. At this point,

792
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she is supposedly cleansed of original sin, made a child

793
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of God and an air of heaven. Provided she dies

794
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:05,960
in grace, she is born again, and at that moment

795
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becomes a member of the Roman Catholic lower case Church

796
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and is subject to its laws. So really, the Bible

797
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sales portion, I'm liking this, I'm learning a lot. I'm

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liking this. Hold on, I'm liking this.

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Speaker 3: Essay trading is reclic.

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Speaker 3: Next page page four, Helen is now a citizen of

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two countries. Helen has two flags, two presidents, two constitutions

821
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and two loyalties. The Vatican is a government with it comes.

822
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I gotta stop because now I've lived and grown up

823
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around Catholics my whole life, my whole life. I also,

824
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being a New Yorker from Queen's grew up around another

825
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group my whole fruit life. Every Catholic that I have

826
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ever every American Catholic that I have ever met, is

827
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a disloyal pig by comparison to the other group that

828
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,559
I am thinking of. Every Catholic that I can think

829
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:12,280
of talks back about the Pope, doesn't really know everything

830
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,960
they should, doesn't have all the dogmine mind. You've heard

831
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,000
the statistic something like half of American Catholics do not

832
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believe in transubstantiation and a central doctrine of the Church.

833
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By comparison, the other group should be described as one country,

834
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one flag, one president, one constitution, and one loyalty. And

835
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,000
we're getting at least Chicken is giving us both. He's

836
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saying we have two loyalties rather than just at one.

837
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:51,400
It's absurd. It's absurd. Which is your Yeah, there's your

838
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,079
mad libs?

839
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:58,039
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, it's like mad proper news. This could

840
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be off storm Front, right, Yeah.

841
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. The Vatican is a government with its own money,

842
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secretary of State, and ambassadors, and is a recognized nation

843
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just like Germany, France, et cetera. If Helen is a

844
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good Catholic, her first loyalty will be to the Vatican.

845
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Speaker 2: So let's skip to page six. Page five is a

846
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brief description of the Sacrament of problems. But I just

847
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wanted to read.

848
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Speaker 3: That brief A brief description of the sacram independence. It's

849
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like a five hundred word blurb.

850
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Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying where it's like the perfect

851
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synthesis of like lefty meme, lunatics, getzo posting, and THEZAR

852
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like Reddit historiography. But uh yeah, check out page six.

853
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Speaker 3: Wow, oh wait, I have to Can I say one

854
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:56,559
thing here? I'm pretty sure I am correct about this

855
00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:01,599
is the word isn't called indulgences. Indulgences is a practice

856
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:04,320
that has always been done in the Catholic Church. Just

857
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:06,920
for the sake of this, because I do find Catholic

858
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,920
theology very interesting. You see up there where it says

859
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Roman Catholicism replaces repentance with the sacrifice of penance. By this,

860
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I assume Chick believes penance is the act of saying

861
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five Hail marries. Now, penance is the act of feeling

862
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:33,599
regret and requesting repentance. That's what penance is. It is

863
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:38,360
the reception of penance. So when I go, if you're

864
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,400
a priest, I go to you and I go, Father,

865
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,599
I've done this, and this I just I feel absolutely

866
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terrible about it. I'd like to see penance for this.

867
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,119
You would issue me penance and then you would give

868
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:53,960
me an indulgence. An indulgence is what an indulgence is

869
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,119
meant to do, is meant to affirm by some sort

870
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of work. You go, so when you make a deal

871
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with somebody, you go, all right, look, I'm not just

872
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,880
gonna trust you on this. You gotta do better, You

873
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,360
gotta put the work in to do better. Fairly reasonable thing,

874
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:11,960
possibly to request of someone who wants you to be better.

875
00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:14,880
They'd want you to do something to be better. Well,

876
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,360
in the old Church, some people used to be able

877
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to pay for penances. This was the big controversy, of course,

878
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and it was rebuked by the church. As far as

879
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,800
I understand the kind of exorbitant fees. But the thing

880
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,239
where you say five hail marries, that's an indulgence. That's

881
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not penance. Just to be clear, I know that may

882
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,360
be Catholic inside baseball, but I think a lot of

883
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Catholics don't even really understand that. But saying five hail marries,

884
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which has never been assigned to me in my entire life.

885
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,480
By the way, but saying five hail marries would be

886
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:50,760
an indulgence, not penance. You do have to actually be

887
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repentant in order to receive penance, and then you are

888
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,719
told an indulgence that you are to perform if you're

889
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,920
really for real arius about it in the eyes of

890
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,199
the community now anyway, just saying that, for I find

891
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Catholic theology interesting. So I want to clarify that if

892
00:58:08,639 --> 00:58:10,960
you weren't listening to any of that the TLDR, I

893
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,000
worship demons whatever, blah blah blah.

894
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Speaker 2: Speaking of that, let's get to this next panel.

895
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Speaker 3: Yes, the next panel reads, did the idea of the

896
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confessional come from the Vatican? No, It originated way back

897
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in ancient Babylon, where they worshiped the sun god Ball.

898
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,679
Ball is not the sun god. Ball is the god

899
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of fertility and crops. It was part of and here's

900
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the big one. Here's the big one. It was part

901
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of an a cult religious system. After the Great Flood,

902
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Noah's offspring built the city of Babylon. It became the

903
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religious center of the world. Here the confessional was first

904
00:58:56,719 --> 00:58:59,320
used to find out what was going on and to

905
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control and blackmail. There is no evidence of that whatsoever.

906
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,320
I promise there is no evidence of a confessional booth

907
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:15,559
occurring in ancient Babylon whatsoever. You can. By the way,

908
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:18,559
you can still believe it's fake, just don't say it's

909
00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:22,159
from the Babylonian mystery school. That has never happened.

910
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Speaker 2: Ever, I think your initial initial anger had more to

911
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do with than this characterization of Ball than the state

912
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of being made.

913
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Speaker 3: What have we got to do here? I'm not an apologist,

914
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I just honestly burden. I don't like little lies. Honestly,

915
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,559
the big lies bother me, but little lies and ignorances

916
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:46,960
bother me so much more. Well, I receive it so

917
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much more.

918
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Speaker 2: It's not a particular scholar of the ancient world. I

919
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:59,039
know this isn't true. In ancient Babylon they worshiped the

920
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sun god Ball. Then then this religion moved into Egypt,

921
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using different names. I guess it did. The altars of

922
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Egypt were some shaped wafers made of unleavened bread. Now

923
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:20,000
when does that come back? These waifers were consecrated by

924
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:23,360
the Egyptian priests, and supposedly they magically became the flesh

925
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of the sun god Osiris. This is called transassociation. So

926
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basically the Egyptians were Babylonians and they became the Roman

927
01:00:35,159 --> 01:00:38,559
Catholic Church. To me, I find this way more.

928
01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: Look at this. I'm actually I'm gonna be fair to

929
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:51,639
Jack Chick. Ok here as apparently nineteenth century scholarship around

930
01:00:51,719 --> 01:00:55,039
the subject of astro theology and the Babylonian mystery religion

931
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,320
did treat Ball as the personification of the sun. Now,

932
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:05,440
earlier and later scholarship have agreed that Shamash or Shopash

933
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,880
was the sun god of Canaan and Babylon. But there

934
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was a time and Jack Chick could have been reading

935
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these documents where it was briefly thought Ball was the

936
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sun god. So you know what, maybe he's onto something.

937
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Maybe I'm the retard, maybe I'm the idiot.

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Speaker 2: So I realized I'm not trying to be deliberately religiously

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insensitive here, and I realized we are joking about serious topics.

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But if you're wondering what exact image was the basis

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for this entire idea of why I wanted to expose

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you to this, it's this is the image Virgin Mary

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is the Masonic isis.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I see here, because you can see a lot

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of similarities between the two drawings. Jack Chick has made.

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Speaker 2: Ah see you fell into mind.

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Speaker 3: Actually, this is really funny. This is Yes. Ude, it's

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that meme. I have already depicted you as the Masonic

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deity isis Yes. But you know what's kind of funny

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about this? So this is page twenty of what is

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the title of this this one? Because people should look

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at this one, the Roman Catholics, Christians. Okay, so go back,

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go back to page twenty and so again Jack Chick

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has drawn both of these. I've never seen a depiction

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of Isis that way. It's very possible. That's a very

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01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:38,519
fair depiction of Isis. Now, can you can you zoom in?

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I need to see what's below Mary's feet. Is it

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a snake? Okay, it's a snake. The trampling of the

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snake okay, very common image because in revelations it is

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said at least Catholics believe what is being said there

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is that Mary crushes the head of the snake. So

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what you're seeing in Jack Chick's depiction here is Mary,

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who is modestly dressed, crushing the snake and has her

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arms extended and is holding nothing. Now, the image of

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Isis has and ohen, there's a halo over Mary's Now

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the image of Isis features a halo over isis and

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an immodestly dressed. She's immodestly dressed. She doesn't have a veil,

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she's wearing some kind of crown, and her upper chest

969
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,000
is visible, very immodestly dressed by comparison. In one hand,

970
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she looks like she holds a scale. In the other hand,

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it looks like she holds some shepherd material, either a

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crook or some kind of noose or something to that effect.

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And what can you clearly see under her feet, Jay Burden?

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You see snakes who are not being crushed, not being crushed.

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And so even in Jack Chick's depiction, there is almost

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no similarity between these two figures besides the halo.

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Speaker 2: Because he controls each one of these images.

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Speaker 3: Yes he could, yes, and I don't know why he

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didn't make them identical.

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Speaker 2: Bring you on for the most the most high IQ subjects, right,

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which is a bit deceased schizophrenic.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate Jack Chick at all, though I have

983
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to be said, I think I don't hate him, Yes,

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very Americana. And you know what, I hope he's in heaven,

985
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I really do. I hope he's in heaven, and I

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hope he's reconciled. And you know, I'm sure that if

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01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:48,880
me and him got together, we'd we'd have recorded a

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01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,760
great episode of t L A.

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Speaker 2: Would be the irony of ironies. If on his deathbeds

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a vision virginis, I'd love to hump completely inverting great

991
01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:07,840
story of every single back Chick track.

992
01:05:07,719 --> 01:05:12,199
Speaker 3: Ever, which is ironically what he's What is that story about?

993
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:15,400
The Rabbi? Yes, what it was all about.

994
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: So we have found out that life in fact does

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imitate art.

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Speaker 3: Jack Chick.

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Speaker 2: The theat I.

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny? And know my research of him,

999
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,079
I don't even know what he looked like. Oh okay,

1000
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:32,559
he looks like exactly what I thought he would look like. Yeah,

1001
01:05:32,599 --> 01:05:34,760
he looks like a regular white dude from the South,

1002
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not from Not from the South, He's not from the South.

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He's from Pasadena's the uh.

1004
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Speaker 2: Is the really where our best schizophrenics came from? The Birchers.

1005
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They came out of Orange County.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the burchase.

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Speaker 2: I actually think I'm supposed to have No, I can't

1008
01:06:00,639 --> 01:06:05,440
keep track. You are actually I think they were right. Honestly,

1009
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I guys were the uh Bird. Where could people find you?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know Timeline Earth. You can find it,

1011
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go to the Patreon don't just Timeline Earth Patreon over

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the line. That's where Yeah, I uh.

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Speaker 2: Listen to Timeline Earth. It's probably the only podcast I

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actually listened to.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know. Can I stop you right there and say,

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first of all, thank you, thank you for saying that,

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friends outside of this context. But I will say this,

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