Speaker 1: Something's going to happen?
Speaker 2: What? What's gonna happen?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Headless Giant Podcast. We've got a special
Speaker 4: guest tonight with me and Nick from the Occult Rejects.
Speaker 4: We have Mansion with us, who is one of our
Speaker 4: mail bag people that has sent us in a story
Speaker 4: from the mail bag. And I'll let you take it. Mansion,
Speaker 4: tell us your story.
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess we're gonna take this from I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was a two three weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I went to Pens and Mounds and.
Speaker 1: It was kind of an out of the blue thing.
Speaker 3: I just all of a sudden one day decided I
Speaker 3: wanted to go. And then when I got closer to
Speaker 3: the mounds, I started recognizing things on the road, like
Speaker 3: the specific thing. One thing is there was this like
Speaker 3: hill you go down and at the bottom of the
Speaker 3: hill there was water over the road and there were
Speaker 3: all these ducks and geese in the middle of the
Speaker 3: road in this water. That got me where I remembered that,
Speaker 3: and then I went further and there's this place the
Speaker 3: highway splits and there's like you old kaboos at the
Speaker 3: side of the road. I saw that and I was like, whoa,
Speaker 3: I've been here, and then you crossed the highway and
Speaker 3: it goes into I don't know how to describe it,
Speaker 3: but it's like old timy, like entry to a little
Speaker 3: community where it kind of goes up over and stuff,
Speaker 3: and that I recognized that. I kept going and got
Speaker 3: to the roads you go down to the mound. I
Speaker 3: think it was called Osier Road. And then there was
Speaker 3: spot over to the right, this little bog looking place
Speaker 3: that I had remembered, and.
Speaker 1: It just kept going.
Speaker 3: I get to the mound, I recognized the museum. I
Speaker 3: walked down the pass. I walked to the top of
Speaker 3: the mound, and I was really out of shape. It's
Speaker 3: all I could do to get up the thing. But
Speaker 3: it was just I don't know, and even other paths
Speaker 3: I walked around, It's like I know this little place
Speaker 3: and of actually, after meditating on it, after this experience,
Speaker 3: I tried to when I have these experience a lot
Speaker 3: of times, I won't think about this stuff for years,
Speaker 3: but I'll remember the dream or whatever it is that's
Speaker 3: going on. And I'm not really sure about what I
Speaker 3: said before. Now it's like, is this like lucid dreaming
Speaker 3: or something else? I can't explain it, but anyway, I
Speaker 3: remember being there at the nighttime and the dream and
Speaker 3: there being other people there. It was real playful. It
Speaker 3: was very almost like summer camp like interactions. Although we're
Speaker 3: all adults. It wasn't the weird tension of everyday life
Speaker 3: around people.
Speaker 1: And I remember us doing stuff up and down the mounds.
Speaker 3: I remember the bridge going out in to the middle
Speaker 3: of the swamp us being there.
Speaker 1: I remember the southern.
Speaker 3: Field next to the Southern Mound and us doing stuff there.
Speaker 3: And I can't really remember what we were doing, but
Speaker 3: I remember the bod that I drove by, and me
Speaker 3: and some other spirits or people or whatever it was
Speaker 3: went to this body and we were looking for a stone.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the stone was. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's in Bob.
Speaker 4: That's really no.
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy, but it's it's kind of weird. I
Speaker 1: like that, but that got me on, kind of keep
Speaker 1: me off into look at mounts right.
Speaker 4: I like that stone angle because there is a thing
Speaker 4: called the Batalist stone, which goes back to the idea
Speaker 4: at the oracle at Delphi where they had a stone
Speaker 4: where Zeus released these two eagles and these two eagles
Speaker 4: went all the way around the world, and then where
Speaker 4: they met Agan was where Zeus said was the navel
Speaker 4: of the world. And at that point they had this
Speaker 4: stone that was sort of represented as sort of the
Speaker 4: navel of the world. And what's interesting about these mounds too,
Speaker 4: is like they're sort of like this this navel of
Speaker 4: the world type concept. And it would be interesting if
Speaker 4: you could actually find some of these other people that
Speaker 4: were maybe astray project they are with you because maybe
Speaker 4: they're drawn to that navel of the world idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to say, I really don't know what
Speaker 3: it is. I don't know if it's astual projection. It
Speaker 3: could be dream it could be looser dreaming. But I
Speaker 3: was starting figuring out it's like, yeah, maybe my drug
Speaker 3: usage in the past triggered some of this opened the door.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I've had it without drugs, So.
Speaker 3: You know, there's I mean, I'm looking at light arm
Speaker 3: maps at places near me, and I'm like getting the
Speaker 3: same sort of feelings and stuff. I was like, Ah,
Speaker 3: there's this place, but I've never been over here, right,
Speaker 3: you know some of them, I mean they're close to here,
Speaker 3: but it's kind of you know, you don't go driving
Speaker 3: up in people's property around here without permission.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, it's.
Speaker 3: Kind of like you know, areas of the hood in Memphis.
Speaker 3: You know, gotta be careful, you.
Speaker 4: Know, start to uh, you know, sort of have an
Speaker 4: impact on our waking life. So, for instance, a lot
Speaker 4: of people have had these mall dreams where they're they're
Speaker 4: walking through a mall and it seems like the whole
Speaker 4: place is abandoned and they'll meet somebody there that they
Speaker 4: end up meeting later in real life. But these mall
Speaker 4: dreams seem to be like a prominent feature of like
Speaker 4: these just empty, vast malls. And then you've got these
Speaker 4: videos talking about u liminal spaces, talking about these empty
Speaker 4: malls again, and it seems like it's drawing back on
Speaker 4: that sort of dream memory that happens a lot where
Speaker 4: you know, people are meeting in these dream environments. So
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if you know, these places, like
Speaker 4: the mounds and like the malls and like these other
Speaker 4: places are places that people go to in their dreams
Speaker 4: that have you know, some sort of a deep energetic
Speaker 4: or spiritual uh you know, consciousness. Then you know it draws.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw a place last week, go into the
Speaker 3: grocery store, and I was going to a special grocery
Speaker 3: store because they were having a meat seal and you know,
Speaker 3: it's cheaper to get it from Sam's or something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't usually I usually shot much groat closer at
Speaker 3: the normal grocery store.
Speaker 1: But went out to the old Country grocery store.
Speaker 3: I had to go on another path and I passed
Speaker 3: the school I recognized, and I've had dreams about that place.
Speaker 1: I can't think anything significant about it, and it's put.
Speaker 3: Me out like the Mounds. But that's it's just weird,
Speaker 3: you know. I don't know if you sometimes, but see
Speaker 3: it's it's harder. I've been down that road before. I
Speaker 3: hadn't been on it to the mounds to my knowledge,
Speaker 3: I was someone took me out there without knowing.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they do that? But oh, I don't know
Speaker 1: about some of these folks in Memphis. Though you never know.
Speaker 4: You got Cosby, you got Cosmid, somebody s left your mickey.
Speaker 1: Before ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so though it wasn't something that would.
Speaker 4: Do Terras's hollow Earth. Yeah, I think there's a lot
Speaker 4: of these meeting places that you know, now we live
Speaker 4: like a third of our lives are more in dreams,
Speaker 4: and yet those dreams have an impact on our everyday
Speaker 4: life and a lot of subconscious ways. But yet we
Speaker 4: don't really understand, we don't really connect with those with
Speaker 4: those memories and those feelings that we get from these things,
Speaker 4: because it's like a whole other life is going on.
Speaker 4: And you know, I feel sorry for the people who
Speaker 4: don't remember their dreams because man, there's so much we
Speaker 4: miss out on being asleep, and nobody even really thinks
Speaker 4: of it. I think all of the symbols in the
Speaker 4: world come from our dreams, you know that sort of
Speaker 4: like the symbolic reality that we live in. All the
Speaker 4: things that we do in dreams are symbolic of the
Speaker 4: things that we do in real life because we're not
Speaker 4: actually doing them, so it's like an idiogram or some
Speaker 4: sort of symbol. And so, you know, even in dreams, though,
Speaker 4: you notice that the clocks don't work, You notice that
Speaker 4: there's a lot of numbers that aren't necessarily present in
Speaker 4: the dreams that we can you know, normally see. And
Speaker 4: it's one of those indicators that helps people to go
Speaker 4: loose it in their dreams is when they're looking at
Speaker 4: a clock and they notice that the numbers are all wrong. Well,
Speaker 4: what if that's something about our level of consciousness, Like
Speaker 4: we can't make those numbers work in the dreams because
Speaker 4: we're sort of disconnected from that symbolic reality. Numbers are,
Speaker 4: you know, an ever present symbol in our waking life
Speaker 4: that don't seem to translate to our dreaming life. So
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe there's a connection there. Maybe it's
Speaker 4: the disconnect between waking life and dreaming life.
Speaker 1: Well, do you want me to go further into this littlejourney? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: when I.
Speaker 3: Was at Penson, I was at some of the smaller
Speaker 3: mounds and I sort of realized that, wait a minute.
Speaker 3: There was this mound by where I used to play.
Speaker 3: I called it Vinesville or Vinland, one of the two,
Speaker 3: because there was all these what I know now is
Speaker 3: passion fruit growing over a ditch, and it was real.
Speaker 1: Like it seemed old.
Speaker 3: But there was this big mound over in the trees
Speaker 3: between fields, and so I got back and went checked,
Speaker 3: and that's when I found that one.
Speaker 1: That one shows up really good on light.
Speaker 3: Are some of the mounds I think I've found probably
Speaker 3: aren't burial mounds or anything like that, but I'm positive
Speaker 3: that they were in the area.
Speaker 4: Let's stop about how you find these things online are
Speaker 4: because I'm sure there's a lot of people out there
Speaker 4: who are want to use your resources that you've been
Speaker 4: able to use with the USGS service.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shoot, I don't have the information really in front
Speaker 3: of me, but you just said it. You just USGS
Speaker 3: National Map. I think you can google it. And it's
Speaker 3: like an online map. And there's one called hill Shade
Speaker 3: Stretch excuse me a second, and.
Speaker 1: It seems to show up really well.
Speaker 3: It gouse has a you have a bump map sort
Speaker 3: of thing that shows you the geography and it's like
Speaker 3: you might have the sunshine and were kind of cast shadows.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can pick up stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So you get onto the USGS and you're scrolling
Speaker 4: through the maps of the places you've seen or you've
Speaker 4: experienced in dream and stuff, and what you end up
Speaker 4: seeing is the light are mapping of those places and
Speaker 4: you can actually see the indent or the protrusions that
Speaker 4: are happening right, forest cover.
Speaker 3: Right, And it seems like even him, I don't know
Speaker 3: if Nick's got the stuff where you can show it.
Speaker 3: But the horse you Now, I have memories of going
Speaker 3: to that place, even though I haven't been there yet.
Speaker 4: Let's see, do you know how to concern there? We go? Right, yeah,
Speaker 4: this is this is the mound that you sort of
Speaker 4: had a connection to.
Speaker 3: Right, I haven't been there yet, but yeah, it kind
Speaker 3: of triggered feelings, like I remember being there with some
Speaker 3: redneck dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that because that's how it is here.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not exactly one hundred percent redneck.
Speaker 1: I never have been.
Speaker 3: But you've got the kind of guys that like go
Speaker 3: shoot and drive trips. You know, I'm not dissing them.
Speaker 3: They're great, but that's just how it is. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, kind of a big dude wearing
Speaker 3: a plaid shirt, how you know, drugger hat. Well, what's
Speaker 3: interesting to me is there's nothing else to it. I
Speaker 3: remember going and looking at it, but that's all I
Speaker 3: remember from you know, dreams about that place before.
Speaker 4: What's interesting to me is that it is in the
Speaker 4: middle of a plowed field. That's right, thought specifically seems
Speaker 4: to be untouched by the rest of this agriculture.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's some there are definitely some things. This
Speaker 1: is like the most grand one I found in the
Speaker 1: area I'm in, you know, but there's lots of.
Speaker 3: Things that show up looking like what I found, and
Speaker 3: it's actually bigger than some of the smaller mouths.
Speaker 1: Because I went to light our pension too.
Speaker 3: Just for to know what I'm looking add on the
Speaker 3: light arm, I'm like, well, this is a good reference.
Speaker 3: And yeah, like the one that's kind of behind me
Speaker 3: back here about two or three blocks in city, you
Speaker 3: know distance, you know, it's probably it looks about like
Speaker 3: that size, So that's not gonna be huge. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: think you could be bigger than I think because that one,
Speaker 3: you know, comes up up to about my neck.
Speaker 4: Interesting. Interesting, So I mean and.
Speaker 1: It's pointed direct north.
Speaker 4: Nice. Yeah, that seems to be a factor. Is these
Speaker 4: uh directional indicators? Because I think, you know, all of
Speaker 4: these mounds were built in reference to the stars, in
Speaker 4: reference to the cardinal points, and being able to you know,
Speaker 4: really tell them for what their purposes are. I think
Speaker 4: that really does come down to a lot of the directions. Also,
Speaker 4: I mean, do you ever do any dowsing?
Speaker 3: I have it my granddad did I believe our well,
Speaker 3: we have well water.
Speaker 1: I believe he found it.
Speaker 4: If you get a chance, go out to the mounds
Speaker 4: with a couple of a couple of copper rods and
Speaker 4: see if you can get some indicators. Just I mean,
Speaker 4: dowsing is really easy. All you're doing is just, you know,
Speaker 4: keeping focused on what you want to find, keeping focused
Speaker 4: on that, and then just sort of letting it as
Speaker 4: you walk back and forth. You probably find that redneck
Speaker 4: out there too while you're doing.
Speaker 3: Well. It's not like a bad experience of that dream.
Speaker 3: So it's a little encouraging and a lot of times.
Speaker 3: You know, my family's been in this area going back
Speaker 3: to my granddad, so and I, you know, became an adult,
Speaker 3: moved to Memphis, gotten a lot of trouble, and actually
Speaker 3: my sister moved to Oregon and our house was available
Speaker 3: bottom rumor.
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to get the hell out
Speaker 1: of the city.
Speaker 4: Right. Well, you can actually find a lot of things
Speaker 4: with dowsing. Some people use them for treasure hunting, some
Speaker 4: people use them for finding water, some people use them
Speaker 4: for finding the earth energies. There's a really good documentary
Speaker 4: about it in England where they're showing you it's not
Speaker 4: just the dowsers. They bring their compasses out there too,
Speaker 4: and the compasses go absolutely nuts. So these these different
Speaker 4: sites have real energetic qualities to them that are different
Speaker 4: from the other places, which make them very interesting kinds
Speaker 4: of kinds of places. There was another one if you
Speaker 4: could scroll through the other pictures, if you got that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's what it looks like from the regular satellite
Speaker 4: view there. So it's it's pretty hidden in there. I mean,
Speaker 4: you can't really see it at all under those trees, right.
Speaker 3: I want to guess that that's why, Like some of
Speaker 3: the spots that I've been told talking to people around
Speaker 3: here that oh there might be a mound there or.
Speaker 1: You know stuff. I've checked some of it and it.
Speaker 3: Checks out, like you can even sometimes with the light
Speaker 3: or on some of the fields see where you think.
Speaker 3: But does all this land around here was cleared like
Speaker 3: for cotton growing in the eighteen hundreds, and they all
Speaker 3: want to flatten their fields out as much as they can.
Speaker 3: But you can even see spots you know that.
Speaker 1: That there used to be a mound. That is insane. Though.
Speaker 4: This is a place that I heard about from Reddit.
Speaker 4: It's right off of little Man Trap Lake and was
Speaker 4: in Minnesota and it's almost dead center of Minnesota. And
Speaker 4: this is just a huge pentacle that I said to
Speaker 4: you and you looked it up. This was on light.
Speaker 4: Are those those gouges go pretty deep into the ground,
Speaker 4: I mean for that Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you can see some of the mounds and there's
Speaker 3: some little mound.
Speaker 4: Spots right right. Those could be indicators of because you know,
Speaker 4: what they do with these mounds is that they try
Speaker 4: to make them a reflection of the sky. So those
Speaker 4: could be references to star formations in whatever sort of
Speaker 4: area they're trying to connect with. But this is just
Speaker 4: a weird thing that somebody found on Google Maps at
Speaker 4: little Man Trapped Lake in Minnesota. Do you have the
Speaker 4: other image there the satellite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very obvious though. Just I'm guessing this has
Speaker 3: been like made us nature park of some sort state park.
Speaker 4: It looks like it's it's partially in a state park,
Speaker 4: but there are houses really close to there. And as
Speaker 4: you can tell from these tree lines, it's been made
Speaker 4: in such a way that you cannot see this if
Speaker 4: you're walking by on the right or at the lake.
Speaker 4: This is only something that you can see from above,
Speaker 4: and there might be an elevation difference around the outside
Speaker 4: of it too, which would indicate to me that they
Speaker 4: were picking like a really kind of a higher plateau
Speaker 4: than all the surrounding land.
Speaker 3: Now do they has this been geologically tested where they
Speaker 3: know about what time period it was done.
Speaker 4: I have no other information other than the images. So
Speaker 4: I found that on Reddit and it's just like wow,
Speaker 4: I gotta go. Well, it's like five hours away from me.
Speaker 4: And what's interesting to me too, is this is this
Speaker 4: line right down the moon. I haven't really seen it, yeah,
Speaker 4: or I know that the necronolicon has its own sort
Speaker 4: of pentacle seal that has kind of another pentacle down
Speaker 4: in the bottom corner, and then other seals thrown in there,
Speaker 4: but I haven't really don't see one like that. And
Speaker 4: if you look in the middle, it kind of looks
Speaker 4: like a snake. I'm not sure if that was intentional
Speaker 4: or if that's just like the tracks that somebody left there,
Speaker 4: But that's just fascinating to me. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 4: go out there and just film what I found, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, when you're there, even up on it clothes,
Speaker 3: you might not be able to tell it's unless it's
Speaker 3: a mound, which it looks pretty flat though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what area is this yere?
Speaker 4: This is in Minnesota. It's it's between a lake up
Speaker 4: to the right up there, and then there's a road
Speaker 4: that kind of goes down to the uh the southwest side.
Speaker 4: But this is facing due north, so that is that
Speaker 4: is perfectly on the north south axis. So that's a
Speaker 4: pretty impression. There was another one in Kazakhstan that I
Speaker 4: found that was just really weird that had a circle
Speaker 4: around the outside of it, so it was far more
Speaker 4: you know, uh, neo pagan pentacle looking thing than this,
Speaker 4: But you can tell that one's so sharp. Somebody had
Speaker 4: to be doing a lot of work to put that
Speaker 4: into the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's a little Masonic in a way.
Speaker 4: It could be.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying the preciseness, you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: sayings did it.
Speaker 4: There isn't an Indian reservation really close to there too.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of different symbols that cross over
Speaker 4: between Native Americans and European pagans, one of which being
Speaker 4: the swastika. Like swastika was all over North America and
Speaker 4: there's no explanation for why they had the swastika the
Speaker 4: fact that these all these different societies were connected at
Speaker 4: some time. It's a very specific symbol.
Speaker 1: I think there's probably something to you that people.
Speaker 4: On five continents all had the swastika as one of
Speaker 4: their main symbols. That means something, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, it goes back to whatever the origin is. I
Speaker 1: would guess.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's something that you know, it's so obvious that
Speaker 4: only an academic could miss it, and that No.
Speaker 3: It's like I talked to my dad about some of
Speaker 3: this stuff, and he's got to He went to college
Speaker 3: and took archaeology in the sixties, so he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's this way, And I'm like, Dad, there's all kinds
Speaker 3: of stuff that has changed, even official archaeologies that's you
Speaker 3: went to school.
Speaker 1: I'm not dissing them. I mean it just has there.
Speaker 3: He has quite a narrowhead collection that he got all
Speaker 3: from around here.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are.
Speaker 4: Serious changes that I see coming when it comes to
Speaker 4: anthropology and all the rest of this archaeology stuff. There
Speaker 4: just has to be. There's too many missing dots for
Speaker 4: them to keep ignoring it. Right my life, they've ignored it,
Speaker 4: you know, they're like, all these connections are fake, all
Speaker 4: that stuff is not real. All we're gonna do is
Speaker 4: talk about the pottery and the differences between the pottery,
Speaker 4: and it's like, come on, people, there's a little bit
Speaker 4: more connecting that you guys could do if you actually
Speaker 4: had the interest of the you know, attention spar.
Speaker 3: I agree, you know, and I've been looking through county
Speaker 3: histories and stuff too, and a lot of JJ's buddies.
Speaker 3: The Society of the Cincinnati popping up in eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 3: it's like, is weird and I'm reading about this stuff.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, this is the original replacement migration.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, like.
Speaker 3: Scotch Irish, send them to send all these scotch Irish
Speaker 3: to Tennessee, get rid of the.
Speaker 4: Well. If you look at the biography, the scotch Irish
Speaker 4: settled in the Highlands just like they were in Ireland
Speaker 4: and Scotland like they ended up in the exact same areas.
Speaker 4: So I think there is some sort of design to that, right,
Speaker 4: you know, the mountain people go to the mountains. Let's
Speaker 4: put them in there and they can take them over.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's not just that you were just
Speaker 4: talking about the Society of the Cincinnati. They were obsessed
Speaker 4: with mounds, like they would do everything in their power
Speaker 4: to map out all these different mounds across the United States.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of geomancy going on with that group.
Speaker 4: And they're the ones who founded the US. So I
Speaker 4: think there should be a lot more attention paid to
Speaker 4: this stuff. I mean, especially when you got things like
Speaker 4: Oak Island. Right, it's still unexplained. As much as they
Speaker 4: like to ignore it. Oak Island represents a very you know,
Speaker 4: significant find in terms of ancient archaeology in America. You've
Speaker 4: got the Stone Hinge in New Hampshire. Right, There's all
Speaker 4: sorts of these different structures that are related between the
Speaker 4: Europeans and the North American people that never gets any attention.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, there's a whole lot. There's like I remember
Speaker 3: Boards of Canada. I found stuff with them connected to mounds.
Speaker 3: Like they had an album released at some mound in
Speaker 3: the Mohave Desert, and there's this whole thing that reminded
Speaker 3: me of the Nutter Butters in their promotion. And not
Speaker 3: only that, that Geo Gotti album. If you look, it's
Speaker 3: like Kaleisascope, but it's like a giant with mounds. Oh
Speaker 3: and they claimed that their studio is in Pittland Hills,
Speaker 3: which is in Scotland, and there's mounds there which I
Speaker 3: guess they might have an RV with the recording studio
Speaker 3: and you know, drive in to the middle of nowhere
Speaker 3: recording their albums.
Speaker 1: They kind of sound like they could.
Speaker 4: So I like to show people geological feature that almost
Speaker 4: nobody pays any attention to this place. That lake is
Speaker 4: in Canada. It's a perfect circle. Wow, how does that
Speaker 4: make any sense to the eclipse?
Speaker 1: Is it atlantis?
Speaker 4: I have no idea, but these are indications that maybe
Speaker 4: somebody had something to do with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: If you take Oak Island and you take these mounds
Speaker 4: and you look back in European history, they have mounds
Speaker 4: for the Nephilim gilgal Rapaym in Israel, right, and so
Speaker 4: it's it's a regular mountain like you would find in
Speaker 4: North America, and it's right there as a temple to
Speaker 4: the Uh, the fallen Og I believe, one of the
Speaker 4: giants from the Bible. It's like, that's kind of strange,
Speaker 4: and you've got the giants over in North America too,
Speaker 4: Like maybe this place was completely different from what we remember.
Speaker 3: The mound back here is big enough for one lates wise,
Speaker 3: it's like not it's like oblong.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say that thing's twelve foot long
Speaker 1: the mound, right, and you've got other I haven't measured it.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of the skeletons of Lovelock Cave that.
Speaker 1: It sounds familiar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the skeletons in love Lock Cave were you know,
Speaker 4: like twelve thirteen feet tall, and they were sent off
Speaker 4: to the Smithsonian and the Smithsonian lost them.
Speaker 3: Well, according to doctor Greg Little, the Smithsonians had to
Speaker 3: give all that stuff back to the Native peoples. I
Speaker 3: have or not, I don't know from the peoples, don't
Speaker 3: have it.
Speaker 4: From the stories of the native people. They did not
Speaker 4: like the giants at all. There's so much so if
Speaker 4: you did give them back to them, you're never going
Speaker 4: to see those things again because they hated those motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they claimed they were animals, right, that's what a
Speaker 3: lot of lines up, right, A lot.
Speaker 1: Of people English giants, right.
Speaker 4: And the way that they tried to cover up that
Speaker 4: that whole incident was the uh, they had a bunch
Speaker 4: of pranks, right, They had a bunch of people who
Speaker 4: made hoax giants, and they said, no, everything was a
Speaker 4: hoaxed giant, just like this one over here, and it's
Speaker 4: like every one of them. All it needs to be
Speaker 4: is just one skeleton and then that just this proves
Speaker 4: your entire theory there. But I mean, that's so devious
Speaker 4: for them to go out there and actually fake these
Speaker 4: giants as a way of throwing people off the set.
Speaker 3: You know, speaking of fake giants dinosaurs, it seems.
Speaker 1: To be a little evidence for some of that. You know.
Speaker 4: The one that I love the most is the ketzel Kuwatlas.
Speaker 4: Have you ever looked at that one? No, it's the
Speaker 4: biggest tyanodon of all times that they found. It's got
Speaker 4: like a fifty or sixty foot wings giant right, it's
Speaker 4: completely ridiculous. I don't believe it could ever get off
Speaker 4: the ground. I mean, it wasn't like the size of
Speaker 4: a cessnat I think there was.
Speaker 2: In a Jurassic Park or a movie recently.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: And well that didn't They make the velociraptors bigger, I
Speaker 1: think the Jurassic bar But you've.
Speaker 4: Got the utah raptor, which is like a twenty foot
Speaker 4: long velociraptor. So okay, that They were much bigger than
Speaker 4: just the ones that you see there. But those were
Speaker 4: those were a type of dinosaur that starts with a
Speaker 4: D I forget. But anyways, the ketzel Kowatless was found
Speaker 4: by well, not archaeologists. They would be palaeontologists that were
Speaker 4: sponsored by Boeing. The people sponsored by Boeing found the
Speaker 4: world's largest flying animal. We're gonna name it after one
Speaker 4: of the Boeing's products, but they thought that'd be too obvious,
Speaker 4: so instead they named it kettel Kowatless. I don't believe
Speaker 4: a word of it. And I'm sure all they found
Speaker 4: were like tiny little fragments, and they said, this goes
Speaker 4: into a much bigger it's the biggest one of all time,
Speaker 4: just from these tiny little fragments. And I'm sure they'll
Speaker 4: find more. They always find more after the first one
Speaker 4: has been you know, tiny fragmented.
Speaker 1: Look because they find some bone. It could be a
Speaker 1: piece of chicken.
Speaker 4: Right there. So it gets so ridiculous with the paleontologists.
Speaker 4: It's like, let's just take this back one step and
Speaker 4: let's let's see the incentive structures here. You guys want
Speaker 4: to fund these museums, you've got to have a constant
Speaker 4: stream of dinosaurs coming into your museums so that little
Speaker 4: kids can be fascinated by this. That's the that's the motivation.
Speaker 4: They find little chips and bone and they're like, this
Speaker 4: has to be a giant, give me a break.
Speaker 3: Well, it's all something that All the skeletons you see
Speaker 3: in museums in China, right.
Speaker 4: I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: No, most of them are not even real. If you read,
Speaker 2: will tell you that shit.
Speaker 4: They're all cast of what the balientologists believe. If you
Speaker 4: that structure from the tiny little bone chips that they found,
Speaker 4: so the whole thing is constructive.
Speaker 2: You be surprised how much it actually would tell you
Speaker 2: the truth if you read the fine print when you're
Speaker 2: looking at them.
Speaker 4: Find things right right, Think about the Brontosaurus, the one
Speaker 4: with the super long neck, Like, how does a thing
Speaker 4: like that breed? How can it pump that much blood
Speaker 4: that head?
Speaker 1: Things?
Speaker 4: Gravity would have had to be completely different for this
Speaker 4: thing to actually exist and not fall over under its
Speaker 4: own weight. Have you ever noticed how hard it is
Speaker 4: to put together dinosaur pieces like the t rex? It
Speaker 4: always falls over on you. That's weird. That might be
Speaker 4: a big problem for a giant lizard back then, but
Speaker 4: now obviously it has to be the dinosaur. I don't
Speaker 4: believe any of it. I think that, I mean, why
Speaker 4: wouldn't they lie. Look at all the shit that we've
Speaker 4: been having to deal with the past couple like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: we were just funding a you know, isis in Iraq
Speaker 4: and in Syria. You know, no big deal, We're just
Speaker 4: sending them millions of dollars. Come on, I don't believe
Speaker 4: any of these fuckers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like name a topic.
Speaker 3: You know, a whole lot of things that you know,
Speaker 3: people are just being lied to about.
Speaker 1: It's the same profession Robert Anton Wilson.
Speaker 3: I think there is something that Robert Anton Wilson talks
Speaker 3: about this really IMPORTANTNS depolarizing yourself.
Speaker 1: Look at things objectively. Don't just jump.
Speaker 3: Into freaking belief systems. Nobody knows what really going on.
Speaker 3: You know, he might be a crack, he could be
Speaker 3: part of the process or whatever. But that's good advice.
Speaker 3: Depolarize your belief systems.
Speaker 4: BS cults have just used the principle of sunk in
Speaker 4: cost fallacy to keep people on the hook for decades.
Speaker 2: The only thing, you know, what they do think about
Speaker 2: when he does come to this stuff, like, I just
Speaker 2: feel like you'd be finding more bones, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: or are you just saying there was like a few
Speaker 2: dozen of these things each, because it doesn't seem to
Speaker 2: be much, Like how can people aren't finding this shit
Speaker 2: when they're going to like build houses and thinking for foundations, right,
Speaker 2: it's only yeah, it's only a few. So I mean,
Speaker 2: I'd actually believe that there was like some scientific experiment
Speaker 2: gone wrong in the past and there was only a
Speaker 2: few of these fucking things and they end up dying.
Speaker 2: I believe that over Like, you know, these things roamed
Speaker 2: the earth for millions of years and there's only any
Speaker 2: fucking bones for anything.
Speaker 4: Well, they claim this place in North Dakota is like
Speaker 4: the ultimate bone field for the US, and so they
Speaker 4: claim that a lot of different bones were deposited there
Speaker 4: and a lot of different animals supposedly lived in that
Speaker 4: valley a long time ago. But you know, it is
Speaker 4: in one of the most unpopulated areas of the entire world,
Speaker 4: so nobody's watching what they do out there. You know,
Speaker 4: they're never digging this stuff up in somebody's backyard and
Speaker 4: saying we found a t rex in a neighborhood. Now
Speaker 4: it's way away from the neighborhoods, so you don't actually
Speaker 4: know what's going on out there. And there's a lot
Speaker 4: of grant money that they get thrown because they find
Speaker 4: these huge bones. It's really fool people. I'm sorry, it
Speaker 4: really is.
Speaker 1: I just it is you people. If you wanted to.
Speaker 2: Imagine, the museums don't even know and they've gotten swimdled
Speaker 2: by some people.
Speaker 4: Oh you know they have.
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope it's even I hope it's gone
Speaker 2: down like that, because that's fucking hilarious. You know that
Speaker 2: mothers like, yo, that ship ain't even real. And I
Speaker 2: got it in there.
Speaker 4: I think I think it was found out a long
Speaker 4: time ago. The older it is and the more people
Speaker 4: want to believe in it, the more real it becomes.
Speaker 4: So people clinging on to, you know, really bad evidence
Speaker 4: for Noah's Ark for a long time.
Speaker 2: Jurassic Park came out and some guys sort of chance
Speaker 2: to swindle something into the swility.
Speaker 4: Beliefs about the past are big business. I'm serious. I mean,
Speaker 4: if you think about it and you break it down
Speaker 4: in those terms, that is I don't know, this is
Speaker 4: in the world beliefs about the house.
Speaker 3: I don't know there's something to the mounts, so.
Speaker 2: Oh, I definitely do something.
Speaker 3: Do you want me to get into what we talked
Speaker 3: about on the what you McCall it on TwixT?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 3: So I grew up in this house when I was
Speaker 3: about three years old.
Speaker 1: This house was built in eighteen.
Speaker 3: Thirty, and I remember being a little kid and seeing
Speaker 3: little dwarves under the front porch, and then it became
Speaker 3: a recurring nightmare.
Speaker 1: And then I remember a little later.
Speaker 3: Waking up and seeing these tall beings that looked like
Speaker 3: kind of like ring Race, maybe not as rough looking,
Speaker 3: but black robed preachers. My sister used to wake up
Speaker 3: screaming every night about three am, and my brother in
Speaker 3: law says she still does it. My mom saw wolves
Speaker 3: in the house in a house like kind of turning
Speaker 3: on fire. And I remember one time the radio came
Speaker 3: on in the middle of the night, not being plugged
Speaker 3: into the wall or any batteries, and I buried it
Speaker 3: in my toy box. I can't really think of anything
Speaker 3: else from that time period, but about the time I
Speaker 3: was thirteen or fourteen, we started having cattle mutilations, and
Speaker 3: of course my dad thought it was Satanists. I found
Speaker 3: out about the UFO stuff later, because you know, this
Speaker 3: was in the eighties. You didn't have UFO abduction talk
Speaker 3: all over the place like you do now. I mean
Speaker 3: it was a little bit. You had some movies like
Speaker 3: First and Counters, but you know that was you know,
Speaker 3: it's low key. People didn't go crazy till the X Files, right,
Speaker 3: So that's just kind of what's happening on light Arm.
Speaker 3: It looks like the house might be built on a mound.
Speaker 3: It's rough, there's been a driveway cut into it, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it looks like kind of Mississippian platform, you know type
Speaker 3: of deal.
Speaker 4: Well, did you know that the house where they signed
Speaker 4: the Federal Reserve Act on that little island that was
Speaker 4: built on top of one of the biggest sacrificial burial
Speaker 4: mounds in the United States, Like, there were bodies strewed
Speaker 4: all about that mound, and that's where the Rockefellers went
Speaker 4: to sign the Federal Reserve Act in the law, you're
Speaker 4: right on top of that sacrificial burial round.
Speaker 1: The stories in this area go way back.
Speaker 3: My granddad told me stories about the witches braiding the horses.
Speaker 3: Manes him meeting one into road and waking up three
Speaker 3: days later with his clothes on inside out.
Speaker 1: And this would have been in the forties.
Speaker 2: It's like the original smiley faced closed.
Speaker 3: There were the African American community around here. They all
Speaker 3: put televisions on their front porch and mirrors to keep
Speaker 3: the evil spirits away, and built bottle trees. There was
Speaker 3: a African American man that worked with my dad on
Speaker 3: the farm. Wasn't a slave, just throwing that out there,
Speaker 3: but he slept every night with a silver spoon on
Speaker 3: his head to keep the witches off of them. These
Speaker 3: witches kind of sound like the same sort of bar
Speaker 3: and normal what people say UFO, who knows what it is?
Speaker 4: The Jacques Valet slash Carl Jung explanation for UFOs. These
Speaker 4: are all projections of the subconscious mind, you know, and
Speaker 4: like having them change from little people into UFOs. That
Speaker 4: seems pretty rational if you're like a non physical being
Speaker 4: that can take different shapes, you know, and fuck with
Speaker 4: people in really spiritual and physical ways.
Speaker 1: That's what I think this is. It's gotta be.
Speaker 3: I mean, they'se first presented to me like these little cute,
Speaker 3: you know elf dudes.
Speaker 1: Hey, they all saw me and they pulled a bottle
Speaker 1: out and drink it and disappeared. Well you know you're
Speaker 1: not you know what, and I wake up, I'd be.
Speaker 3: In my twenties and has a dream of this and
Speaker 3: just sit straight up in my bed, like you know,
Speaker 3: out of breath.
Speaker 1: I mean, like a nightmare. But it's really not that scary.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, mixed like what the hell
Speaker 2: sleeps with garlic under his nuts?
Speaker 4: Like calm, there's a big mound of willship. Oh, there
Speaker 4: we go, Yeah, there is. That's how you know people away.
Speaker 4: Oh definitely, It's how you keep everybody away.
Speaker 3: So I don't really know what else to say about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I hear stuff not in my house because
Speaker 3: I mean that mounds are right around here, which I
Speaker 3: mean I could be full of ship, but I know
Speaker 3: that I've experienced supernatural things.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to the bottom of that.
Speaker 1: I want to know.
Speaker 3: I mean, after a while, you just want to know
Speaker 3: the truth, right, You don't want some oh stee demons
Speaker 3: or is this it's that it's aliens.
Speaker 1: No one knows.
Speaker 4: There might be an explanation and how the mounds are
Speaker 4: constructed right. So what they would do is they would
Speaker 4: layer in organic material between inorganic material and then create
Speaker 4: a piezo electric effect with the amount of weight being
Speaker 4: pushed down on very specific rocks and stones as they
Speaker 4: layered them up. That's why the mounds have stayed together
Speaker 4: for all this time. They're actually a machine of sorts.
Speaker 4: But in the way that you describe a mound as
Speaker 4: being layered and using that same kind of technology that
Speaker 4: these organite generators are. You have to ask yourself, are they,
Speaker 4: you know, using the natural oregon and the lay lines
Speaker 4: to produce, you know, some kind of magical effect.
Speaker 1: It's possible.
Speaker 2: I was going to bring that up therefore, Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: an interesting question stry to answerrupt you. But it was
Speaker 2: just yeah, because I saw somebody as stand in the
Speaker 2: chat like a while ago about lay lines with these mounds,
Speaker 2: and I do wonder somehow those corely or have even
Speaker 2: wondered like a lot of times, I kind of look,
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I look at lay lines as
Speaker 2: like maybe some sort of like streamer of energy. Is
Speaker 2: there some sort of like an opposite somewhere else more
Speaker 2: of a.
Speaker 4: Magnetic dude plasma plasma exactly, plasma using magnetic energy. But
Speaker 4: that's the thing about these lay line sites is they
Speaker 4: have so many different varied effects. So just by changing
Speaker 4: the frequency somewhat, you get all sorts of different effects.
Speaker 4: When it comes to dousing these areas and mapping them
Speaker 4: out using compasses and seeing where these electromagnetic lines are
Speaker 4: snaking in and out, I mean, it's you can actually
Speaker 4: find a lot of information when it comes to this geomancy,
Speaker 4: and that actually changes. I think it has an effect
Speaker 4: on time space itself. So if you're controlling these mounds,
Speaker 4: you're kind of engine nearing how the time and space
Speaker 4: move around you. You know. I think that's one of
Speaker 4: the purposes is to collect enough of that energy and
Speaker 4: have it, you know, maybe criss crossover. When you're talking
Speaker 4: about Keegong, uh Keygong and tai Chi, they operate on
Speaker 4: these these magnetic frequencies and these meridian ideas. Why isn't
Speaker 4: it the same with the Earth and how they place
Speaker 4: these mounds and how they're related to uh, you know,
Speaker 4: basically our fate. Because a lot of what goes into
Speaker 4: that the Chi meridians has to do with the situations
Speaker 4: you find yourself in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the sad thing is I think a lot
Speaker 3: of the mounds have been destroyed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know around here, I mean it's flattened.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't have an ag you can't have
Speaker 4: the agricultural basis that we do unless they flatten these
Speaker 4: mountain because there were so many, Like if you look
Speaker 4: at the early maps of these things, they were fucking everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that's in it's I think you're pretty
Speaker 3: much only going to find them, at least in this
Speaker 3: part of the country and the Mississippi Delta. You're probably
Speaker 3: only going to find them in the areas that people
Speaker 3: don't go. Well, I will say there's people that probably
Speaker 3: go to these places and they're hunters, as you know,
Speaker 3: deer hunting's real big.
Speaker 1: Around but who knows how much are you even pay attention?
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I think that the Native Americans
Speaker 4: and other cultures that might have lived here before were
Speaker 4: using these mounds for agricultural and game purposes. So a
Speaker 4: lot of these things would enhance the energy in nature
Speaker 4: to produce a lot more than what these areas normally would.
Speaker 4: I think it's a different form of agriculture, you know,
Speaker 4: And when you think about it, traveling peoples would want
Speaker 4: to have stuff like that. And if you go back
Speaker 4: to Europe, the traveling people's over there, the Scythians, they
Speaker 4: had giant burial mounts for their kings too, and you
Speaker 4: know that was one of their threats. It's like, you
Speaker 4: could run your mouth out here, but I'll see what
Speaker 4: happens when you come to the king's burial mounds. You know,
Speaker 4: like they were always talking about it. They had these things,
Speaker 4: I think as a different form of technology than what
Speaker 4: we use today. You know, this was more about mind technology,
Speaker 4: and they had very deep understanding of how it worked.
Speaker 4: We don't.
Speaker 3: I also found it really weird the bird activity, the
Speaker 3: hawks and the crows. That was really weird because I've
Speaker 3: been in the country enough to know that hawks don't
Speaker 3: follow you around, and neither do crows most of the time.
Speaker 3: And I looked up as far as Native American lower goes,
Speaker 3: it's a very good omen.
Speaker 1: It's kind of skar. Heared me when it happened.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I was like, what the heck
Speaker 3: I was like because it was like I walked over this.
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure that the spot was even a
Speaker 3: mound actually.
Speaker 1: Now with the light art, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like all of a sudden, this hawk starts,
Speaker 3: you know, making its noise, and there's all these crows
Speaker 3: over right next to it. This is just kind of spooky,
Speaker 3: but I've had multiple times like especially that one I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure is a mound. Yeah, the hawks flying around,
Speaker 3: circling like they're watching.
Speaker 4: That's kind of the hawks. That brings it to mind
Speaker 4: Odin because Odin is supposed to be always watching through
Speaker 4: the crows of the hawks. And I'm sure they had
Speaker 4: burial mounds up there too. Yeah. Well, this has been
Speaker 4: a great episode. Thank you for joining us, Mansion.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's been fun.
Speaker 4: If you will point people to your uh, to your
Speaker 4: Twitter a character or something else.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you can it's Mansion rollers at Twitter
Speaker 3: or however you spell that stuff out. I'm pretty neat
Speaker 3: at Twitter, and I like trying to really be anything.
Speaker 3: But I like Nick and Headless a lot. I did
Speaker 3: listen it to you because you'll go over so many
Speaker 3: different kinds of things.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm so I just try to throw out stuff I
Speaker 3: can that I know something about, because it really hurts
Speaker 3: me with some people when they you know, not that
Speaker 3: you guys do it necessarily. Some of your guests. Maybe
Speaker 3: occasionally there's a.
Speaker 4: Lot of big timing, and I don't know why. It's like,
Speaker 4: come on, just answer your emails, answer your inbox. It's
Speaker 4: not that big of a deal.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's all good. We're dealing with humanity.
Speaker 3: None of us are perfect, right.
Speaker 4: But I think we're trying to be a little bit
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Thanks for having me on. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much, Bud. That was some really interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: You got me thinking about the mounds again and that light.
Speaker 2: That light our stuff is really interesting. Arena start looking
Speaker 2: at stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Oh, I had a quick thing. I just wanted to
Speaker 4: speak to all the fat bitches at the gym.
Speaker 5: You motherfuckers ran into my boy JJ Vance, What the
Speaker 5: fuck is wrong with you? After everything he's been through,
Speaker 5: you're not gonna watch your massive But as you're walking
Speaker 5: around the fucking gym control you should be in the gym.
Speaker 4: We all agree on that. But what we're going.
Speaker 2: Maybe they shouldn't have left yet. That's me. That's awesome, dude.
Speaker 2: That is fucking funny. Yeah, JJ got a hit and
Speaker 2: run unfortunately going into the gym.
Speaker 4: He's back out of commission to go.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm gonna see his I'm gonna see him tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see him tomorrow actually, so I'll let you
Speaker 2: know how he's doing. Yeah, but thanks, thanks for having
Speaker 2: me on again. Uh, that was some really interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna have start looking at that light off
Speaker 2: stuff like I was saying before. Thanks for having me
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