Speaker 1: All start to you to presents. Off the bench with
Jacob Hester and T. Bob Abert. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Off the bench with Jacob Hester and Bob Aber.
Speaker 2: I gotta come off the bitch.
Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob aber.
Speaker 2: Let's go, guys.
Speaker 3: It is Monday, Jerry, you're twenty and twenty twenty five.
Happy Martin Luther King Day, and uh, happy day to
us being here on the edge of potentially the snow
event of a lifetime. Guys, I seem to be the
only one of the ouphantch creulatory excited about this and
cannot wait.
Speaker 2: We'll get to all of it and more.
Speaker 3: We got NFL playoffs to get to that too, say
other show, we got a ton to get to this Monday.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a very fun time.
Speaker 3: We'll check in with Jake later live from the National Championship.
He's doing some Boots on the Gumshoe reporting over there.
We'll talk Naddy, we'll talk everything this morning. I hope
everybody had a wonderful weekend. Alondra, what's up? Grudges me
Elandre and Taylor in studio today. A bit of a
quiet building, as you know, I know a lot of
people off today's If you are off, enjoyed the time
with the family, and chances are you're gonna be off
to where your kids.
Speaker 2: Are probably gonna be off tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So enjoy fighting the crowds today to get all of
your last second preparations in as we're prepared to be
inside for maybe a little bit.
Speaker 2: What's up, guys? How are we doing a lodger? What's up?
Grow are you?
Speaker 4: I'm doing well. So I took an idea from you
this weekend and I started rewatching Twin Peaks. Yeah, it's
probably one of your better ideas. So I rewatched Twin well,
not all of it obviously, but I started rewatching Twin
Peaks and it holds up.
Speaker 2: It's so good, star holds up really well. I'm gonna
do it eventually.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure when I want to commit to it
quite yet. It is I mean, it is right. It's
old school TV, and it's even not as long as
other old school TVs. It was on like a super
long running show, but you know you have there's some
some filler episodes, but all the quirkiness of David Lynch
still just as wonderful.
Speaker 2: As ever. Yeah, it makes uh, Tate, what about you?
What did you get into this weekend?
Speaker 5: So my family, you know, we always used to do
stuff together. You always, yeah, talking about got a text
from my mother on Friday and she says, Hey, we're
all doing soup night Sunday night. I had to make
a different kind of soup. We did that last night.
Uh me and Victoria's was a hit. So that's good news.
We did the tomato basil soup and I made girl
cheeses to go along with it. I have to so, uh,
it was a good time. Watched all the playoff games.
Uh stayed indoors as much as possible because it's entirely
too cold outside.
Speaker 2: But other than that, pretty good weekend.
Speaker 3: Is my natural temptation to make of Taylor for wanting
to victory lap Grilled cheeses. Yes, but we do know
that grilled cheese, like anything that is great, is something
simple yet has a lot of room to make it great.
Speaker 2: So how do you do your grilled cheese?
Speaker 5: So a little bit of mayo on the inside of
the bread. Okay, butter the outside of the bread. Cook
it on the edge of the grill, real low and slow,
so that the cheese melts, but the bread doesn't crisp
a ton. And then I usually do two different counts
of cheeses. So I have mild cheddar and prove alone
this time.
Speaker 3: Okay, not bad tete dual fats. Absolutely love it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Hopefully at some point you moved itto the middle to
crisp up that bread. I would imagine, right, get a
little brown on.
Speaker 2: I cook it for a while, okay in the edge.
I mean it cooks a while. I'm proud of you.
Low and slow. I mean, look, that is a try.
Speaker 3: I mean that works with everything from eggs to grilled
cheese to pork butt.
Speaker 2: Anything and everything. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't interest the week and it went up to
Madisonville and we rented a couple of RVs.
Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of the park was, but
middle of the State park.
Speaker 3: So basically just spent the entire weekend sitting outside by
a fire, running around with kids in our V park.
It was very muddy, very fun and uh, just a
lot of fun cooking on a little grill out there.
I don't know, really really good weekend in nature.
Speaker 4: Was it like glamping or was it?
Speaker 3: No? It's no, it's not like straight of camping because
we had these RVs, and RVs are pretty nice nowadays.
We rented, We just random them, they set them up
and everything. It's not even like we had to do,
uh to do to do that kind of yeah, I
mean still, you know it's five people's a lot in
an RV.
Speaker 4: Ye oh wait, five people?
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, you know, three kids, my wife.
Speaker 3: But but I mean, look again, I am that we
used to have My grandparents growing up, they had an
old school little camper, and I am blown away by
how far our V tech has come in the ensuing
two decades since I've engaged in such activities. Like we
went some friends and it was their child's birthday, so
they got kind of a nicer RV.
Speaker 2: And like, this thing.
Speaker 3: Was pretty freaking chill, like full living room basically like
for the Saturday playoff game. At one point we did
go inside. We basically watched all of Commander's Commander's lines
like inside sitting on a couch on a big TV
was kind of mind blowing, but it was very fun.
Maybe the craziest part of the trip our neighbors in
the RV next to us, You know, they kids see
everybodys playing we're hanging out, get to know him, and
then from Austin, Texas. That's where they came in from.
She was originally from Manisfull. Her mother was my preschool
teacher at Saint Timothy's on the North Shore that I
barely remember. Actually don't really remember going to just know
that I did. But yes, the random person at the
RV park that I've never been to before that was
literally right next door to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her mother was my pre school teacher.
Speaker 4: What a small world.
Speaker 2: Very world works in mysterious ways. I know, it's wonderful.
It's wonderful.
Speaker 3: It's a really good weekend, really good weekend. Nice park
up there, Like I said, like you said, just fun. Anyway,
let's go ahead, because we've got so much sports talk about,
let's go ahead and get this thing started.
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So NFL Playoffs Divisional round took place this weekend and
there were, well, imagine this, some common themes that emerged.
None more common than if you turn over the ball
you lose a couple of wonky box scores in this
bunch in which the main difference in the game was turnovers,
and that starts. Actually, let me check, I actually didn't
even write down the Chiefs Texans turnovers because that's an
odd game. The Chiefs win twenty three to fourteen. You're like, oh,
of course, the Chiefs win twenty three to fourteen. Where
you may not realize is that the Texans kind of
dominated the game. I mean you hold, so the Chiefs
win by nine, and yet they only had two hundred
and twelve total yards, They only ran fifty plays of
the Texans sixty five. They only had twenty two carries
for fifty yards compared to twenty nine for one forty nine,
and yet the Chiefs still won this game. In fact,
the only thing in the box score that the Chiefs
did win.
Speaker 2: What do you think turnovers in time of possession.
Speaker 3: Penalties doubled up well as the Texans doubled up. I
know there's a lot of talk about the Chiefs best
friends the referees, but I mean look four for twenty
nine for the Chiefs, eight for eighty two for the Texans.
Speaker 2: Yes, no turnovers in this game, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: And no, the Texans dominated time possession thirty thirty three
and a half to twenty six and a half. So again,
it's a weird game in which the Texans kind of
on a play to play basis, kicked the Chiefs ass,
but in the high leverage moments could not come through.
Ky Fairbrand had a really bad game for the text.
I mean, missing field goals, missing the extra point to
tie it after you get the massive score, the Chiefs
continue to be inevitable, Travis Kelsey showing up for the
playoffs him And how about Caitlyn Clark hanging out with
Taylor Swift in the suite? Dude, what a call to
get if you're Kaitlyn Clark. And when when t Swift
wants you to come be in this either, that's like that,
that's like an all time moment. I'm sure if you're
Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I call Victoria in the room to watch big plays, okay,
and she's gotten used to it now and she's in
our bedroom and I'm like, going, quite quick, quick, come here,
come right in a flat flicker, and she goes, what
And I was like, Caitlyn Clark and Taylor Swift are
hanging out together.
Speaker 2: She's like, you called me in here for this and
walked out. You knew the media was.
Speaker 5: Gonna be like, guys, guys, get them, get him on
camera every time you can't kill get them, bro.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a literal entertainment sign on a billionaire,
just based off of her songwriting and things like, of
course you're always going to show her and it's Kaylen Clark, But.
Speaker 2: I like thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Simply from the perspective of what does it feel like
to be Kaitlyn Clark, who in all likelihood probably had
some affinity for Taylor Swift at some point growing up.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's like.
Speaker 4: A thing she does, the Hearthands Swift something about it. Yeah,
she's like a known swiftye.
Speaker 3: I remember the reporter asking something. It was Greg Doyle
and he got banned from Prescott.
Speaker 2: You wanted to do the market It creepy.
Speaker 4: But also like real quick, like huge l from the
w n B a though, because they did not capitalize
on this at all, Like not one single post on
their social media of like Caitlin with Taylor, nothing like that.
Like it's it's so easy. It's right there, and the
w NBA's marketing is so bad.
Speaker 2: Easy engagement, Yeah, missed opportunities. Yeah, but anyways.
Speaker 3: The thing about now back to the game though, this
you know, the Chiefs right finding ways to win. Steve Spagnola,
I hate it. I still get angry about it. I
think we referenced the other day. I will never understand
how this man who won multiple Super Bowls in New
York has now won multiple Super Bowls in Kansas City.
Has this Kansas City team. At what are we looking
at now? Seventeen and one fifth, sixteen to two to
sixteen and two, and really one of those losses the
game they're not even playing right, so functionally, one loss
in seventeen games on the year, most of it because
of the defense. And yet when he was in New
Orleans he put together the worst defense of all time.
I mean, the blitzing of CJ. Stroud at the end
of the game had Stroud looking completely helpless. And although
I think we know this, let me know if you
agree with this. Chris Jones remains the third most important
piece of the Chiefs dynasty behind Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid.
Chris Jones firmly ahead of Travis Kelsey in my book,
in terms of how they've been able to stay so
good for so long. As he was once again a
terror on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 5: Well, if you watch, quarterbacks can't step up in the
pocket too, because he has everything blocked and then they
have great edge rushers.
Speaker 2: The quarterback has nowhere to go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Chris Jones is taking on double teams every
play and it doesn't matter. We saw it from Aaron
Donald years ago when everybody's like, you can double team him.
He's so big and strong, it doesn't matter. Chris Jones
the exact same.
Speaker 3: So the Chiefs doing Chiefs things. They move on for
the AFC Championship. Our first NFC matchup Saturday night featured
many of y'all's favorite quarterback right now, and that.
Speaker 2: Is Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 3: And make no mistake, Daniels goes into the Lion din
and emerges like it was nothing, emerges like he was
walking straight out of the pages of the good Book, unbothered, unruffled,
smooth as hell. And really, that's the thing that continues
to stick with me is the moment just never looks
too big for Jade and Daniels. I've never seen someone
on such massive fourth downs execute so automatically and with
such an unhassled air. I mean never, you know, not
not overcompensated, ill, jittery, non shake you just just calmly
assessing the defense.
Speaker 2: Here's my pre snap reading.
Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna execute all my read once the ball
of steps and we're gonna get it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna win the game.
Speaker 3: I'm a little upset he didn't get the three hundred
yard playoff game to his name. He finishes twenty two
to thirty one for two ninety nine, two touchdowns, no pick,
sixteen carries for fifty one yards, and he's caused the
entire country to fall head over heels in love with him.
He now has an NFL rookie record, or he tied,
excuse me, the NFL rookie record for wins in a season.
Speaker 2: He has fourteen.
Speaker 3: It's only matched by Ben Roethlisberger back in two thousand
and four. And remember this is a Washington Commanders team
that was four and thirteen last year. And then I
have fourteen wins of the season. After giving the Commanders
their first postseason win in twenty years, he now was
back to back road wins, joining Joe Flacco and Mark
Sanchez as the only rookie quarterbacks to ever win two
road games. Unlike Mark Sanchez, however, and really Joe Flacco
as well, he's the one doing it through two playoff games,
completing seventy percent of his passes over five hundred fifty yards.
Here are four touchdowns, no picks, and on the other
side of the equation. Unfortunately, Jared Goff picked a bad
day to have a bad day because as we said,
the turnovers, that's the key here, Like if you actually
just look at the Lions offensive output, five hundred and
twenty one total yards, twenty three carries for two to
oh one nearly.
Speaker 2: Nine yards to carry out, you lose.
Speaker 3: Five turnovers to zero five nearly a half dozen, four
picks in a fumble. And for golf, it's not entirely
uh So here here's what you're I'm not saying he's
Sam Darnold because he's not. He's got way better career
achieved and his highs are much higher than that we
have seen from Sam Darnold. Like Jared Goff is a legitimate,
easy top ten quarterback, probably border top five, but they're
always is the question kind of surrounding him.
Speaker 2: But is he truly Tier one?
Speaker 3: Remember when he was kind of forced out of Los Angeles,
McVeigh basically said pretty explicitly, he's not good enough to
get me the championship. That's why he went and chased
Matt Stafford down in the manner in which he did.
And although golf has been great and the people will
still support him, it is this type of performance that
causes a seed in one of those insidious creeping doubt
seeds to be planted in the back of people's minds
as to whether you're capable of capturing the ultimate prize.
Maybe that's fair, maybe it's not, but it is how
people are feeling today as Detroit, this faded season, everything
even better from last year. He finishes the one seed
and it all comes crashing down as you give up
thirty eight points to the defense forty five overall with
the pick six and absolutely insane second quarter. Most points
ever scored was that quarter to forty two. Very fun
affair to watch, But in the end, Jade and Daniels
and the Commanders get the win. And the thing is,
I'll say this, it felt like, and this is such
a credit to the zone that Kingsbury and Daniels appear
to be in right now, it just felt like everything
was very on schedule and very easy for the commanders.
And while I know the lines put up really good
volume numbers, it did feel like they were kind of
always pushing a little more fighting, like a little bit
more relying on the explosive plays, whereas the commanders just smooth,
consistent and unstoppable. And they've now gone on the road
twice in a row and jayde Din's He's victorious, dude, unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Basically won both of these games the exact same way,
because we talked about it with Tampa Bay. In that game,
I mean, he hit Terry McLaurin down the sidelines for
like a thirty yard game. Every other play in that
game was six yards here, eight yards here, just like
it was in this And I'm gonna keep beating this
drum until Jaden proves us wrong. Otherwise, his best attribute
is his is his composure. It's not his passing, it's
not his running. I mean, who looked like the veteran
quarterback in that game. It looked like Jadon Daniels didn't
look like Jared Goff. Goff was the one that made
the mistakes. He's the one that not all the turnover Yeh,
Jayden was smooth. He was composed. Moments never too big
for him. I mean, it's it's incredible the way he
could just be so level.
Speaker 2: Headed in any given moment.
Speaker 5: And you were talking about like the yards that the
Lions gained every game this weekend, the team the game
the most yards actually lost.
Speaker 2: They were owing photo that.
Speaker 5: Game because the Rams on that final drive past the Eagles.
So look, it's it's this weekend as a whole came
down to who was able to hold on to the football,
and Jayden did an excelle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be fair, this was forty one for the
Comedies five twenty one for the Lion. So but I mean,
five turnovers, dude.
Speaker 3: You can't have it, and it sucks because it comes
at a moment, It comes to the biggest moment when
everything comes down to this. Also, now, this does create
an interesting conversation around Aaron Glenn and that defense, but
I want to put more of that in the Saints
coaching search segment that we'll.
Speaker 2: Get to in a little bit. So if you're like,
why is any talking about Aaron Glenn, you just.
Speaker 3: We'll put a pin in it and we will revisit
it in a bit. Right now, let's go ahead and
go to break, and then when we get back, we
will dive into the other two games and talk about
maybe the the conference championships coming up, and then we'll
get to our Saints coaching search update.
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Speaker 6: Off the bench, Off the bench, snow, snows, snow, Welcome
back to the ninth ranked morning sports show in America.
Speaker 2: Off the bench for We'll all be there with snow, snow, snow.
Speaker 6: I want to wash my hands, my face and hair
with snow. Snow along to clear a path, and mister
spade of snow snow.
Speaker 2: To see a great big man entirely me a snow
snow where it's snowing all weather through.
Speaker 1: That's swell.
Speaker 6: I want to be.
Speaker 3: Ob Guys, are we getting excited? The models are increasing
four and eight inches?
Speaker 5: Okay, so do hurts you it's going to snow. Let's
temporary expectations on the amount a little bit. Okay, I'm
not temper des well again, I told a lauder, I
don't have a meteorology background like some of these people,
but I got a pH d in common sense, and
I've lived here my whole life. It's never been more
than an inch. Not to say that it won't be
more than that. We ain't getting eight inches of snow.
That ain't happening.
Speaker 2: I get three very comfortable with that first, and it's what, uh,
why why? Why? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 5: I am just one person that's like, Hey, I'm just
gonna go.
Speaker 2: With what's always been. We talk about it this week.
Speaker 5: That's why I picked the bills over the ravens Lamar
do it same thing.
Speaker 4: That I'm not going to put that on Lamar.
Speaker 2: Last night Lamar had to well, I'm gonna say it's both.
Speaker 3: Is it it's he's the reason for the initial hole,
but he's also the reason for the comeback snow, and
so it is. It's it's it's more context than Taylor
is giving a credit for. Uh, it's somewhere in the
middle of you two. If you two are the spectrum,
I agree with you. It is somewhere in the middle.
I think the Lamar take is. But who hurts y'all
when it came to this snow stuff.
Speaker 7: I just probably pain in the butt for us, Probably
the fact that I've grown up and lived in the
South my entire life, and I never went to the
North until I was like twenty years old.
Speaker 3: So yes, do you remember how exciting was the first
time you would have ever seen snow?
Speaker 4: No, I don't think I've ever really seen actual snow.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, hell yeah, let's freaking go then, dude, to
real snow.
Speaker 4: Was that horrible freeze in Texas where we had no power?
That's what hurt me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean well that was actually you know that
that ended up becoming a bit of big power disaster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get anywhere because all the roads were closed.
Speaker 2: D n F n R s.
Speaker 3: There's only two Bobby said about lost power and broken pipes.
He's thinking like a child, not like adult.
Speaker 2: Lol. Hey wrap your pipe, nerd, Yeah, wrap your pipes.
Speaker 3: Run your water, right like, dude, do the things that
they they they tell you to do. I think you crazy, dude.
My kids have been begging me. You know what, what
does snow feel like?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 3: What it's like seeing the ocean for the first time
or something. Snow's only nice for the first three minutes,
and his slush and he gets everywhere. Not if it
snows like it's look like it's going to snow. If
that does happen, if you can, if you can manage
to extricate yourself from the crushing weight of Tailor's cynicism,
and we do get a nice snowfall. It'll be nice
for a little bit little actually end up getting maybe.
Speaker 4: A little Actually, don't care if anybody thinks that's a
bad taker or not. Snow is just not just not fun.
Like my bone's hurt right now. I don't know what
you want from me, Like I need the heater on.
It's not fun. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Sorry, if we best case scenario, Okay, best case scenario,
we don't come to work tomorrow. I'm just really cold
around the house and everything's closed. Worst case scenario, we
do come up here. I gotta drive up here on
the roads from Walker all the way up here, and
when I get here, the power will be out, so
I have to reset everything in the morning. It's just
kind of it's just really not there's really not very
many positives.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm done. I'm I'm I'm done talking
about snow with y'all. Y'all are y'all are like the
SNL Debbie Downer Skit just morphed into two people don't
care exactly today great weather. I'm not gonna complain at
all about today.
Speaker 2: Disgusting.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into let's get into the uh,
the the other two playoff games Rams Eagles, Yes Afternoon,
and Saquon and this Eagles team continue to win by
going off meta, a team leading the charge when it
comes to running the ball right. We've talked about in
this past in a day and age in which everybody
goes past past pass. This year we've finally seen kind
of the NFL meta and college for that matter, in
a lot of ways overall shift right. What's the theme
of the Codswell players. We've been talking about defensive running
the ball. After years of offensive domination, well in the NFL,
this year defense had a big year and the teams
who got these running backs be it like a Derrick
Henry obviously Saquon leading the way. They had great success
and it just gets funnier and funnier for the New
York Giants as Sekwuon Barkley goes for twenty six carries,
two hundred and five yards two touchdowns after seeing how
fresh those legs looked, Tate, are you willing to rescind
your criticism of Barkley sitting the final game?
Speaker 2: Yeah? If they go on to win the Super Bowl
left Alcally, Oh, so that's the all.
Speaker 3: It's like, Ryan Day that's the only way that they
get their get out of jail free card. Yep, not
not even just not even making it to the conference
championship and looking as good as they did.
Speaker 5: Uh no, you're not old, miss. You don't get rings
for like tie in or get almost getting there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I think Kellenmore is doing it really and
we'll talk about him in a little bit, but I
think he's doing a really good job of playing the
Eagles strength, right. They don't have to dominate to the
air overall. With Jayden Daniels seven carries for seventy yards
in a touchdown, you end up with thirty four carries
two hundred and eighty five yards around eight point four
yards per carry. Guys, that is going to be winning
football in the playoffs. Now, the Eagles could get into
trouble if they have to play from behind. In fact,
I think that's something we'll talk about with Bill's Ravens.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: You, Derrick Henry on a day in which he really.
Speaker 3: Could have kicked ass and was kicking ass, ended up
getting It's almost like when a player gets in a
foul trouble, he just can't go to him as much
because you were having to come back.
Speaker 2: Right, So if you get a big lead on the Eagles,
maybe they struggle to come back.
Speaker 3: But if you're gonna be right there with them the
entire game, or give them a lead, they can and
choke you and pummel you to death.
Speaker 2: And well it's kind of what they did here.
Speaker 3: Ten less plays, yet they win time of possession and
then once again turnovers to to zero. Right, another common
theme from from these from from these playoffs, it's I
mean all playoffs, really, it's it's gotta be disappointing too
for the Rams, because I think this Rams team was
actually super Bowl caliber good. And who knows how much
longer Matt Stafford has these sort of seasons in him.
I mean, you're gonna ride him to the very end.
But you had, you know, you had all your weapons available.
Stafford locked in playing great the defense this year, and
that young defensive line, I mean they're so confident, brash,
talking trash before the game, going over actually to the
Eagle sideline and like talking about give me that seventy
K to Jalen Carter and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And well, you maybe should have poked the bear in
that regard.
Speaker 3: But Nick Sirianni the least respected great coach in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Moving on to another NFC championship.
Speaker 5: The last drive of that game for the Rams, like
you mentioned, Stafford was locked in. They were doing these
quick hitters when they needed to, when they needed to
move the ball down the field through the air, they
did it. I look, Sean McVay is a great play caller.
He knows a lot more about football than I ever
will I hated calling that pass play on third and
two because I get it. There's a minute fourteen seconds left.
You're at the thirteen yard line and you have a
time out left. You have all the time in the world,
a minute fourteen with one time out inside the twenty,
your entire playbooks open. It's third and two, and you
struggled in the first half against that Eagles pass rush.
Speaker 2: He calls a long five step dropback.
Speaker 5: Then it's fourth and eleven at that point, because Stafford
got sacked, then you had to throw the ball and
that was the end of the game. You run it
on third down there and if you don't get it,
you run it again on fourth down. Because Kyron Williams
was excellent in that game, I hated that play called
the Rams had he shot to win that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's tough, right, It's I
understand highlighting a single play call, certainly, and I mean
I think all the elements you laid out are true,
But like, doesn't it feel a bit odd critiquing Sean
mcvay's play college Do you know it's it's it's tough
to do, but but I mean, I do you are right?
Four down, territory, two yards, plenty of time. These elements
are all absolutely factual, and I'm I'm you know, I'm
sure if you've got McVeigh one on one that he
might be willing to concede as well, that if he
could have that back, he might want that one back.
Speaker 2: It is if you think about.
Speaker 3: The Eagles, though, it is actually insane what happened to
the Eagles at the end of last season. I mean,
they've been incredible, not good, not great, They've been great.
They've been top of the NFC good for two point
seventy five out of the last three seasons. Right Like,
they started lasting with like and one to two and
then they had that utter collapse. But outside of that
weird two month collapse, Super Bowl and three fourths the
season incredible, you know, like one seed good, then just
got awful, to the point where they're talking about that
they fire the coordinators, talking about fired Seriote and now
they're at the NFC Championship again not a year later. Uh,
just really wild stuff for Philadelphia Eagles and the rubber
banding of their fans. Who I mean they continue. I
mean it's crazy that they were just booing them like
a like a week or two ago. But Jalen Hurts
and the Eagles right back where they were a couple
of years ago in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 5: Shout out to Jalen Hurts too. Like he was hurting
that game. He had the big brace on his left leg.
He couldn't run. I mean, that's that's why the Rams
were able to make that comeback in the second half.
Hurts couldn't do anything. I mean all that running, virtually
all of it. Yeah, he was in the first half,
and look, I get it, it was a snow game, but
he looked he when he needed to a lot like Stafford,
and he was.
Speaker 2: He was big in that game. Did you see his
postgame interview? I did not.
Speaker 3: I think I think whatever they gave Jalen a tough throat.
It had him feeling pretty good. I've never seen jail,
you know. Jalen hurts normally, very taciturnal, some laconic and
just like manly right, just few words. He was kind
of cutting up in the postgame interview a little bit. Well,
I'll find the clip and see if I could play it.
So shout out to the Eagles. They knock out the Rams,
my former team. You know it sucks to you know
what you'll do. But also with the nol no call,
You're never gonna be too upset with the Rams not
not making it to the NFC Championship anyway. All right, Sorry,
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and welcome back to the best morning sports show
around sort of. It's off the bench with Hester and
t Bob.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to O giv All right, let's see if
a Laundra and Taylor can manage to shake free of
their torpitude and whether or not this video will work?
Speaker 2: Is that a word? I don't know this week, but
Raisley the snow. He was trying to go, We'll be
ready to go.
Speaker 3: You love playing in the snow.
Speaker 2: I love playing football. How about that look I used
to put I used to put that. I used to
put it on when we played a video game as
a kid. I put the snow on one hundred and
all that. But I was as a kid.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I know this sounds crazy, but that
is that is like the most open and happy I
have ever seen.
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Hurts normally gives off that uh eight ish
funny energy, right like, why are you smiling? Because ain't
nothing funny? Not in that case. Look, I get he's
very happy. Winners in the snow, going to uh going
to the NFC Championship. Good formed, good form, dude. I've
always been again, I know him to Alabama and I
hated him at the time because of it, but I'll
always appreciate how he handled being replaced by Tua and
he used that stepback to go have that he's in
Oklahoma and then still had doubts and now he's been
great in the NFL. So you know, you can appreciate
that outside looking at h and I use torportude way wrong.
This torpet is a formal noun that means morally wrong
or evil. I refer to a person's character that is vile, shameful,
or base. So well, I may personally feel that about
you two. When it got his snow, I said, maybe
they can shake free of their I think like cynical
torpitude or something.
Speaker 2: I mean a kind word. I might feel that way.
Speaker 3: I might feel that y'all are depraved to abhorrent, a
moral and common and ethical, wicked, evil, corrupt criminal. I
don't think I'm probably most would not agree in this
case anyway.
Speaker 2: A little bit last last game here is.
Speaker 3: If it's it's slander. If I'm saying it right, libel
would be in print slandering Ravens Bills the big one.
And it did not disappoint at least out of the end.
A very exciting finish here. Unfortunately, many people will remember
this as the Mark Andrews game, and it goes to
some of the themes we've played with recently. Right, you
can spend an entire lifetime building bridges and no one
will call you a built bridge builder. Here's a guy
seven years in the NFL, has been a first team
All Pro, three time Pro bowler, captain of the team,
and yet all that work overshadowed by a single disastrous game.
As Andrews has a big fourth quarter fumble, he has
two big drops in, including a two point conversion right
in his belly.
Speaker 2: Maybe a bit of a.
Speaker 3: Tougher catch than people want to give it credit for,
but one that has to be made. Funnily enough, the
exact catch that Mason Taylor made to beat Alabama a
couple of years ago on a two point conversion, falling,
twisting into the end zone. You gotta fall backwards into it.
But Andrews, I mean, and you can tell how hard
that ball looked to catch and carry yesterday. I mean,
it must have just like catching a rock. And that's
kind of how it bounced off of his belly. As
after an incredible touchdown to seemingly tie to give the
Ravens a chance, Andrews ends up dropping the ball that
fumble the fourth quarter as well, guys, only so he
hadn't dropped a pass since Week six. One thing note,
and that fumble only the second of his seven year career,
so absolutely brutal. Now, I want to get some quotes
that the team had bar Mark Andrews, because I think
it's why the Ravens culture is so good. But we'll
get back to it in a little bit. What do y'all
make of Josh Allen in this game? Nothing spectacular through
the air, obviously, does find the endzone a couple of
times on the ground. A very similar game to Jalen
Hurts statistically. I wonder if the narratives will be the
same today. But but what do you think about Allen's play?
Speaker 4: Well, earlier when we were talking about like playoff Lamar
or whatever, and I was like, well, I'm not gonna
fully put this on Lamar. You can't let Josh Allen
score two touchdowns like rush for two touchdowns like that.
But I think he did. He did well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he did.
Speaker 3: Look, I think the main thing is, again, if the
theme of this weekend was turnovers, he played mistake free.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 5: He did exactly what he needed to do in this game.
People are gonna look at the passing yards. You got
to understand, sure Lamar had almost one hundred more passing
yards in him. Lamar was in a negative game script
because of those two early turnovers. Yeah, like we were
talking there, we were talking during break. It never felt
like the Ravens were threatening the Bills, at least for
me watching this game.
Speaker 2: Because even score wise they weren't well.
Speaker 5: Even when they cut it from it was twenty one
to ten, they cut it all the way like twenty
three to nineteen. Like, I never felt like the Ravens
were threatened in this game. Josh Allen was careful with
the ball. He had the two rushing touchdowns and no turnovers.
I thought he was great.
Speaker 3: So yeah, unfortunately for the Ravens. And this is why
I say that if Taylor thinks this was playoff Lamar,
and if Alander thinks not on Lamar at all, in
the spectrum, I'm probably closer towards a Landra because of
the plays they made it the end, but it can't be.
I mean, but Lamar was mad at himself after the game,
and rightfully so. Right the early pick, the early fumble,
and that's why you go in with your largest halftime
deficit of the entire year, down twenty one to ten.
And probably the biggest knock on effect of again is
having to get away from Dereck Henry at that point.
Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of both, but like,
it's not playoff Lamar.
Speaker 3: No, I agree, But then if you want to pick
and choose, you can be like, oh, well, this is
Lamar's fourth preseason or excuse me. So this was his
first multi turnover game of the entire year, and it's
his fourth postseason game in his career now in which
he's had both a pick and a fumble. And so
I agree, this was still a much better game to
stare down twenty one to ten at half in that environment,
to come back to come up with the touchdoun of
the end. He was doing the things necessary to erase
the sins of the first half, but it was just
a big hill to climb, and the margin of error
is so small when you're in that moment. Again, I
just can't get over the fact that Henry ends with
sixteen for eighty four in a touchdown only sixteen.
Speaker 2: This is a three carry Derrick Henry game. Yes, and
you would have won.
Speaker 5: The negative game script did not allow that. You had
to get back in the game. And look, I'm not
putting this game entirely on Lamar. He was just one
of the reasons that they lost he was not the
sole reason they lost it is, but look three and
six in the playoffs and you just mentioned it, no
multi turnover games all this year, biggest game of the year.
He did it once again like he had a great
game in the second half. But we can't just throw
away all the negative as well.
Speaker 3: He is still getting better though, if you look at
his career, as he used to be awful all and
now he's won a playoff game two years in a row.
He remains the only multi time MVP without a Super Bowl,
but he's in the right direction.
Speaker 2: The Ravens out.
Speaker 3: Gain him four sixteen to two, seventy seven point three
yards per play to four point six, so mistakes the
name of the game for the Ravens. Here's what John
Harbaugh though, had to say about Mark Andrews as the
game quote. There's nobody that has more heart and cares
more and fights more than Mark. We want to be
here without Mark Andrews. Destiny is a decision that you
make and how you handle what comes in your life right,
taking back control from fate if you will, Mark will.
Speaker 2: Handle it fantastically.
Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton will go on to have Mark Andrews back
Lamar Jackson would go on to have Mark Andrews back.
So I do think the Ravens culture shining here. But
the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen back in the ANFC
Championship against Mahomes and the Cheap a classic matchup we've
seen multiple times through the years. Can Alan finally break through?
He's gonna have to go into air ahead and try
to do it all right when we get back. So
I did not expect the playoff combo to go on
so long. We've still got a ton to get to.
We got a Calls Football Natty, we got our Hunt
Pomber player portal profile, we got sas Coaching Church, Keep
locked on Off to Otob, Off.
Speaker 1: The Bench, Welcome in to the best morning sports. This
show rounds Off the Bench with Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to OTB Since the end of the hour,
let's go ahead and dive.
Speaker 2: Into our Hunt Palmer portal player profile.
Speaker 3: So this is a series at Louisiana Sports dot Net, which, guys,
is a great resource that we are building here in
house at Guarantee you got a really good team if
you just want to keep up with all your favorite
Louisiana teams in like one easy website to go to.
Louisiana Sports on Net is a great one and Hunt's
been doing I mean this years where he breaks down
every player one by one that elsie game in the transport.
And today we have another offensive lineman in Northwestern's Josh Thompson.
And this guy is about as perfect of an addition
for your needs as you will find. He's sixty four,
three hundred pounds. He was a number three ranked in
tier offensive lineman in the Transfer portal.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three. Is in the Big ten.
Speaker 3: He had eleven starts at right tackle for a Northwestern
team that in twenty three overachieved, but still eleven starts
at right tackle, only gave up three sacks in the year,
and two of them came against.
Speaker 2: Penn State, very good defense. Understandable.
Speaker 3: He had twelve starts and twenty three eleven twelve starts
in right guard in twenty twenty four. And listen to
these PFF grades. Eighty point seven pass protection grade, seventy
three point four run grade. Again, that would have been
made him one of the highest graded players on this
LSU football team last season. Now, how does he fit
within this LSU roster right now, with the addition of
Brayla Moore maybe taking over that center job and allowing
DJ Chester to potentially move to guard, and the experience
at Mabinga and Cohen Ecles got last year in Borderlan,
there does appear to be more going on at guard
for LSU right now, whereas at tackle it's kind of
like Weston Davis, Tyree Adams, I'm missing a name. I
know I'm missing a name, but those are going to
kind of be your front runners there. Well, you're bringing
Josh Thompson. He started an entire year I did very
well as a tackle in the Big Ten. So how
he fits with LSU. I believe it's probably at that
right tackle position, and then you have Weston Davis and
Tyree Adams fighting out for the left tackle. But what
I love about Thompson and why this works, no matter
how things shake out, it is the versatility. Like when
Brad Davis gets a hold of this group during the
spring and you have everybody there and you're starting to parse, Okay,
who's going to merge at what position? No matter how
it shakes out, I do believe Thompson ends up as
one of your best five and is in that mix,
and I would feel very confident with him either at
guard or at tackle. Will it be as good as
what you saw out of Embry Jones Will Campbell last year,
especially in the past game, you could argue run game
could be better potentially. Will he be as good as
path plugging? Probably not. But when I look at this
LSU roster right now, whatever step back in pass retection
is taken by this line, I think will be mitigated
potentially with the rise of the second year of starting,
the emergence of the weapons that we're talking about, and
the more complete running back group. Now we'll kind of
get into LSU's hopes for a whole more next season.
But Josh Thompson another shrewd effective transfer portal pickup for
this LSU Tiger football team. Hour two of Off the
Bench coming up next, Off the Bench