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<v Speaker 1>This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The

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<v Speaker 1>show is sponsored by G three of Parol. The views

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<v Speaker 1>expressed in the following program are those of the sponsor

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<v Speaker 1>and not necessarily the opinion of seven tenor or iHeartMedia.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is Mark Weber. He's a self made business executive

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<v Speaker 1>here to help you find your success from the New

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<v Speaker 1>York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His

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<v Speaker 1>global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark his classic

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<v Speaker 1>proof that the American dream is alive and well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Weber, take a stand, We stand still self fulfilling prophecy.

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<v Speaker 2>John F. Kennedy made it clear that you can't stub

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<v Speaker 2>your toes standing still, life and decisions must be made.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>So therefore I'm thinking about confidence and decisions and making

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<v Speaker 2>choices tonight. Whether you can or you can't, You're right,

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<v Speaker 2>do nothing, get nothing trying. You got a chance, Babe,

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<v Speaker 2>Bruth's striking out getting your way. You gotta get up

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<v Speaker 2>to bet Okay, Babe, bruth said, never let the fear

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<v Speaker 2>of striking out get in your way. You gotta get

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<v Speaker 2>up to bet. We live in the future. What I've

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<v Speaker 2>said already is in the past. Yesterday's home runs don't

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<v Speaker 2>win today's games. We have to move forward now. I

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<v Speaker 2>could end the show right now. I made my points point,

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<v Speaker 2>made's point taken. I do remember my wake up calls

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<v Speaker 2>in Osaka, Japan. A young girl would get on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone and go, mushy, mushy, mushy, time full wake up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for wake up. Whether you think you can

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<v Speaker 2>or you think you can, either one is right. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to take a stay or stand still. What are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to do? Not try?

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<v Speaker 3>What if my name wasn't in lights? What if my

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<v Speaker 3>face wasn't on TV every other second? But if there

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't a crowd around every corner? But if I was

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<v Speaker 3>just a basketball player? Can you imagine it? I can.

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<v Speaker 2>He made it clear he made so many mistakes. I've

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<v Speaker 2>made so many mistakes. Some I've learned from and some

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<v Speaker 2>I should have learned from. I want to think about

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<v Speaker 2>my broadcasting career. I know lots of people listening and

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, I really appreciate it. But I had a

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<v Speaker 2>choice to make. I spent the first two years of

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<v Speaker 2>my career in broadcasting fighting the inevitable. The title of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, always in Fashion, came from my book Always

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<v Speaker 2>in Fashion. It's a strong positioning statement, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>concerned because people would think the radio was just a

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<v Speaker 2>story about fashion, or it could mean, as I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it for the air, looking good is always in fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>Smart business decisions are always in fashion. Reflecting on life

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<v Speaker 2>is always in fashion. Common sense is always in fashion,

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<v Speaker 2>in spite of realizing common sense is not so common anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I was concerned with the limitation of the show that

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been discounted because it was dedicated to fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week we played an encore presentation. It was called

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody Knows Nobody Knows from May of twenty eighteen. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was a great show, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth listening to it. If you missed it, you

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<v Speaker 2>find it an Apple Spotify podcast. Look, Everybody Knows Nobody Knows.

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<v Speaker 2>The point is, at the beginning of the show, I

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to the fact, as I have for the first

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<v Speaker 2>two years of every opening, which began with this is

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Weber, this is always in fashion, This is business

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<v Speaker 2>now this has always been a business show. The course

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<v Speaker 2>of those two years, I realized the title work well.

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<v Speaker 2>And as much as I've been encouraged to come up

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<v Speaker 2>with a different title, I took a stand. I decided

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<v Speaker 2>to go with the brand I was building. Now. My

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<v Speaker 2>favorite sorry on the subject I've told it before, had

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<v Speaker 2>to do with a truck driver who's riding in his

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<v Speaker 2>truck doing his deliveries, whatever it is, and he got

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where the station said coming up next,

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<v Speaker 2>always in fashion. He listened to the opening, he listened

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<v Speaker 2>to woor and he was tempted. When he heards a

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<v Speaker 2>fashion show, he was tempted to change the station. He

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<v Speaker 2>was tempted to walk away, turn the doll, but when

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<v Speaker 2>he heard it was dedicated to helping people find their success,

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<v Speaker 2>he decided to stay with him because he's an independent entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>And he stayed with the show, and he loved and

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote to the station how much he loved it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I've given great thought to changing the title, but every

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<v Speaker 2>person I've spoken with, every program director, they start to

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<v Speaker 2>listen and they can't stop the show until it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard stories. My wife is calling on the phone,

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<v Speaker 2>where are you. I'm in the driveway. I'll be in

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<v Speaker 2>in fifteen minutes after the show ends for another call.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm putting my children to bed. Where are you? Why

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<v Speaker 2>aren't you here? Keep them up? For twenty minutes. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>listening to a radio show. A lot of people love

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<v Speaker 2>the shows, learn so much and I love listening, but

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<v Speaker 2>it puts me to sleep at night. Oh well, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>changing the title. Note, I took a stand like the captain.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go down with the ship in the end. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been building a brand always in fashion. Now let's be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>I no longer open the show with caveats. It is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. Spotify, Apple and every other vehicle you

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<v Speaker 2>find the show on will rate us as business, cultural,

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<v Speaker 2>and lifestyle. I can talk about anything that I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the opportunity to have a platform to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about whatever I think is important. Now hold that for

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've mentioned mistakes. My first attempt at radio. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>I made a mistake, and there's a lesson. I undervalued

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<v Speaker 2>how tough it is to be on the air. Anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who thinks they can sing listen to American Idol. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>learn to appreciate how good they are. If you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to sing or hard to be great, you

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<v Speaker 2>should do that. I used to be a great baseball

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<v Speaker 2>pitcher when I was in high school. I threw the

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<v Speaker 2>ball eighty miles an hour, putting in perspective. College girls

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<v Speaker 2>playing softball, pitching underhand, pitch faster than I did. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to be easy. And I

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell you, being on radio is not easy.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote a book called Dressed Casually for Success. The

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<v Speaker 2>people who published the book were my agent, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>I told them I had a dream of being on radio.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a relationship with Rush Limburg's producer. They brought

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<v Speaker 2>me into the studio to record a radio show. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you what I did, totally unprepared and what

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<v Speaker 2>happens getting ready to record demo tapes. Did I think

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<v Speaker 2>it would be easy? Yeah, I'm clever, I'm interesting, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a point of view on everything. I'll just talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go in the studio, I'll be there at lunchtime.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote nothing, prepared, nothing, and I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>I was nothing. I was terrible. I embarrassed myself. After

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<v Speaker 2>the recording session was done, I looked at the program

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<v Speaker 2>director and I asked him. How was it? He said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to edit. It'll be okay. Two weeks later,

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<v Speaker 2>my agent showed up with an edited show, three parts.

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<v Speaker 2>They were all okay, not great, not bad. But I

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<v Speaker 2>walked away because I know good isn't good enough, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was probably the right decision. But there were lessons learned.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing worthwhile is easy. Good isn't good enough. I would

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<v Speaker 2>tell you the next time you try something, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to think it through, be prepared. Lessons learned, you would think,

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<v Speaker 2>But not me, because I got my next shot at

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<v Speaker 2>radio fifteen years later. Now, whatever it is, I'm driven

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the radio. I never thought about podcast because, frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>eight years ago podcasts were just starting for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>always dreamed of being on the radio. I drove to

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<v Speaker 2>work every day of my career listen to music. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>at night I started listening to talk radio. I was tired.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be educated, I wanted to be entertained.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to listen to music. I eventually became

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent on the radio listening to talk radio,

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<v Speaker 2>and I became enamored with it. And I said to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>these people, man, women, they're interesting they've lived lives, they

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<v Speaker 2>have stories to tell, they have a point of view.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, don't tell anyone, Mark, But you're

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<v Speaker 2>not unlike them. You've lived an interesting career, You're able

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<v Speaker 2>to tell stories, you're able to speak. Maybe, just maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you could do a radio show. And I decided that

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do it because I'm driven. And subsequently

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast as well. I love podcasts because you have

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<v Speaker 2>people listening whenever they want. Anytime, I ask a person

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<v Speaker 2>that I meet along the way, do you listen to positive? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I do where in my free time, Sometimes in the

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<v Speaker 2>car blah blah blah blah, And I tell them about

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast. They promised to listen. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>my success rate is meeting strangers and telling him to

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<v Speaker 2>listen is, but I know we have a lot of listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we're doing well. So I've been driven

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<v Speaker 2>to radio. Always in fashion, I hire new agents. This time,

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<v Speaker 2>new agents get me into the studios, a big broadcasting group.

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<v Speaker 2>They set up a week of recording to do demo tapes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now before I come in that Monday, they send me

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<v Speaker 2>a knowe mark a tip. Make sure you're prepared? Am

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<v Speaker 2>I right of course, don't worry. I make speeches all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. If I tell you I show up figuring,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll wing it. I'll just talk. You want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about lessons learned, You would think I would learn part

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<v Speaker 2>of tonight. I want to talk about mistakes, because we

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<v Speaker 2>learned through mistakes as well. But here I am my

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<v Speaker 2>second choice of radio. I show up at my lunchtime

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<v Speaker 2>totally unprepared. I bomb mean, I was terrible. I was

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<v Speaker 2>all over the place. I was boring, no continuity, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>that made sense from one minute to the night. At

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, my agents try to console me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they were looking to they make a mistake

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<v Speaker 2>hiring me. But they said, Mark, it wasn't bad. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying to myself, wasn't bad. That's my rating. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't bad. Give it a thought. What wasn't bad means seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I told them, as they did the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Time I didn't learn my lesson, I said, lose the tapes.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you I'll be different tomorrow. Whether they believe

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<v Speaker 2>me or not, that remains to be seen. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was different tomorrow because I wanted this. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be on air. I wanted to stand up or stand still.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to stand up. I went home that night

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<v Speaker 2>and wrote and wrote and wrote. I organized my thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I layered out sequences. I layered it out an order

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<v Speaker 2>of presentation. I constructed a beginning, minus, and an end

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<v Speaker 2>to each performance. I prepared for the next day, and

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<v Speaker 2>for the day after that and the day after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust me, I thought I couldn't, and then I realized

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<v Speaker 2>I can. I decided to take a stand and not

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<v Speaker 2>stand still. I knew I could do this. Whether you

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<v Speaker 2>can or you think you can, it's another lesson. If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think it, it's not gonna happen. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>to believe in yourself and you'll be right. Either way.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't believe that, you won't be well. I decided

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<v Speaker 2>they're no more cans for me. This is Mark Weber,

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<v Speaker 2>this is always from fashion, and here we are, eight

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<v Speaker 2>years later, getting better, always trying, taking a stand, not

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<v Speaker 2>standing still. With that in mind, stay tuned tonight is

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<v Speaker 2>take a stand or stand still? Back in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Moment, Always in fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>Spent a lifetime of my career building the van Usen brand,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am so pleased that they're back with us

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<v Speaker 2>now talking about suits. Men were dressing up again, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can be

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<v Speaker 2>won on multiple occasions in multiple ways. You could wear

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<v Speaker 2>with or without a tie. If you look closely, now

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<v Speaker 2>The choices are endless and every one of them looks right.

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<v Speaker 2>You could really really look the part. I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>in packaging yourself is as important does the products you package,

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<v Speaker 2>and wearing a suit is one of those things that

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<v Speaker 2>make men look their best. Venuesn't invented a new idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the cool flex suit. It's been engineered with

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<v Speaker 2>stretch technology giving you the most comfortable fit and mobility.

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<v Speaker 2>Its wrinkle resistant fabric, it's cool moisture wiki. It makes

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<v Speaker 2>it perfect for all occasions. As we discussed just now,

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<v Speaker 2>embracing the whole idea of dressing up. Let's not forget

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<v Speaker 2>Van Usen made its name with dress shirts. It's only

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<v Speaker 2>You can find van using Koolflex men's stretch suits at

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<v Speaker 2>jcpenny are online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're great,

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<v Speaker 2>you should go look at them. Donna Karen began her

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<v Speaker 2>career as one of the finest, most successful, powerful women

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<v Speaker 2>in the fashion industry. She developed a collection aimed at

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<v Speaker 2>and to night. An extraordinary collection. But the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 2>Donna Karen had a young daughter, and she had friends

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<v Speaker 2>and they couldn't afford to buy the Donna Karen collection.

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<v Speaker 2>And Donna invented DKNY Donna Aaron, New York. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>offshoot of the Donna Karen collection. The same concept a

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle brand. Then we talk about lifestyle brands, What does

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<v Speaker 2>that really mean? Simply what they say, there are brands

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<v Speaker 2>that follow you throughout your lifestyle. You get up in

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<v Speaker 2>why as intimate apparel as hosiery as all those products.

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<v Speaker 2>You're getting dressed for work. You get accessorized shoes, handbags,

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<v Speaker 2>and it takes you through the day. The remarkable thing

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<v Speaker 2>about dk and Why clothes for work, they work into

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<v Speaker 2>the evening. The dresses, the suits, the pants, the sweaters,

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<v Speaker 2>the blouses, extraordinary clothes at affordable prices that go from

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<v Speaker 2>day in tonight. Part of your lifestyle is active. You

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<v Speaker 2>have weekends, you have events, you participate in sports. Donna

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<v Speaker 2>Karen's Casual Clothes did that under the DKNY label. A

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<v Speaker 2>vast array of casual sportshere that make women look great

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<v Speaker 2>as they navigate their busy lives. Whether you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>soccer games for your children or whether you're going out

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<v Speaker 2>to the movies, whatever you want to do, DCNY jeans,

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<v Speaker 2>dk Y Sportswear is there for you. That's what a

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle brand is. I need to mention DKY Activewear, which

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<v Speaker 2>is extraordinary, the leggings, the sports bras, the sweats. You

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<v Speaker 2>can wear DKY activewear certainly in the gym, certainly when

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<v Speaker 2>of luxury made affordable for women of America. DKY and

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<v Speaker 2>Why a true lifestyle brand that takes you from day

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<v Speaker 2>and tonight, from the week into the weekend. DCN. Why

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to it Always in fashion. Here's your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Webber.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight, I'm taking a stand. You have a choice. I

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<v Speaker 2>can stand or stand still. You decide who you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be. I know tonight I'm taking a stand. I

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<v Speaker 2>have an idea of where I want to go. I

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<v Speaker 2>have an idea where I am in life, and I

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<v Speaker 2>always continue to move forward. After all, we're already in

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<v Speaker 2>the future. When I just told you a moment ago

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<v Speaker 2>is the past, you got to move forward. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>the way it is. I'm taking a stand. I do

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<v Speaker 2>not stand still now. I have the right to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about whatever I want. I'm on the microphone. It's mine.

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<v Speaker 2>I could talk and I try to avoid most times

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<v Speaker 2>the hardcore facts about the world. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the multiple wars going on around us right

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<v Speaker 2>now anyway. I don't want to talk about world events.

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<v Speaker 2>I leave it for the others in spite of the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that I have a point of view, and yes

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<v Speaker 2>I do, but it's not my job to teach the

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<v Speaker 2>government and my view of the situation. I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 2>anyone repeat anywhere. I have my own view, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do it. I'd rather just talk about

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating wins. I wonder do the Democrats want I want

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump to be successful? By Trump? Who is our president?

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<v Speaker 2>I do have to ask do they want a country

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<v Speaker 2>to be successful? Does the liberal media want Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>to be successful? I subscribe to a theory I want

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<v Speaker 2>to win. I never want to lose. I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the other guy, And over the course of time, I

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<v Speaker 2>adopted the principle that I hate losing more than I

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<v Speaker 2>like winning. I don't want to be wrong. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be on the wrong side of logic and

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<v Speaker 2>common sense, but I don't want I can't let my

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<v Speaker 2>competitor win, and a business I would rather be wrong

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<v Speaker 2>than win. I don't want to let my competitors succeed.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're talking about a country. We're talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>president that if he's successful, if he's doing good things,

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<v Speaker 2>getting results, winning isn't that good for the country? Illegal

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<v Speaker 2>immigration through this conversation a billion times. We're a country

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<v Speaker 2>of immigrants. We want immigrants, we allow them in, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're supposed to be vetted. As a system. Taxes do

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<v Speaker 2>we want more? Taxes? Really eliminate waste and corruption, end

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<v Speaker 2>all wars, put America first. Not a single Democrat wants

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<v Speaker 2>to step up and celebrate the successes that we've had

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<v Speaker 2>under the Trump presidency so far. Don't like his personality,

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<v Speaker 2>got it, don't like the things and the chaos he creates.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. We do about it differently, maybe, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Democrats, like me and business want

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump to be successful. They talk, they behave, they

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<v Speaker 2>cry out against everything. Nothing is good. It seems that

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<v Speaker 2>rather a country turned to crap fail than have a

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<v Speaker 2>successful Republican presidency, particularly a popular Donald Trump. They so

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<v Speaker 2>disliked this guy that they make it tough. Tough choices

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<v Speaker 2>are never good. He's making tough, tough choices to fix

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<v Speaker 2>and solve problems. He's trying for miracles no matter how

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<v Speaker 2>many people dislike him. He goes for can, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>go for cant. He stands. He doesn't want to stand still. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a whole lot of people in our country and

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<v Speaker 2>Yet I'll admit it, the media, the Democrats seem to

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<v Speaker 2>prefer a failure rather than the country win. I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>In business, I really give some thoughts. I'd rather fail

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<v Speaker 2>than see someone else win. But in government it's embarrassing

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<v Speaker 2>you all want to be on the wrong side of history.

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<v Speaker 2>I leave it at that, Like Forrest Gump. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say about that. Back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>What I do want to say is I've been working

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<v Speaker 2>hard to make this show more about life. It's always business,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not running away from fashion when it suits me.

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<v Speaker 2>But tonight it's whether you take a stand or stand still.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to take a moment to encourage all of

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<v Speaker 2>us to tackle the tough issues and get them done.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's coming to save you, no one's coming to

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<v Speaker 2>save us. We have to do it ourselves. A few

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on business. You have to make money. Hey, New York,

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<v Speaker 2>you just voted to raise the minimum wage to thirty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars your losers, Who do you think is going to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for those other people's salaries? I'll let you think

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<v Speaker 2>about that. There's a commercial, an old commercial that was

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<v Speaker 2>done by Smith Barney. I'm going to play it for

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<v Speaker 2>you now.

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<v Speaker 3>John Housman for the investment firm of Smith Barney.

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<v Speaker 4>Good investments don't walk up, bite you on the bottom

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<v Speaker 4>and say we're here. Finding them takes good old fashioned

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<v Speaker 4>singled out for their work in research. Smith Barney. They

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<v Speaker 2>I love that commercial. You got to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>earn the money the hard way. You've got to earn it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've given a lot of thought to everything. No one

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<v Speaker 2>ever gave me anything. No one ever said life would

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<v Speaker 2>be easy. When given a chance, you have to recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that you're given a chance, and then only then fight

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<v Speaker 2>to win. Yeah. I've been thinking about being smart, first

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<v Speaker 2>for myself and then only for others. Tonight I don't

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<v Speaker 2>self be true. And this week something happened they got

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<v Speaker 2>of maybe you own It's a reoccurring thing for me

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<v Speaker 2>this week I walked five miles in one hundred degree heat.

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<v Speaker 2>I was physically exhausted, soaked through and through. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I was having heat stroke or dehydration, but

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel just right. And I walked into the

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<v Speaker 2>club that I belonged to near where I live. I

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<v Speaker 2>sat down to have a nice tea who I knew

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<v Speaker 2>from the club. I never spoke to who saw me

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there, and I know I look like a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I got in there, because it was cold,

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<v Speaker 2>I put on a light sweater. So I'm wearing long

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<v Speaker 2>pants and a sweater and I was soaked through and through.

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<v Speaker 2>And next to me it was a table with this

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<v Speaker 2>woman who started to talk to me. Two men, two women,

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<v Speaker 2>and they started to engage me. First of all, they

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<v Speaker 2>were right, I was drained, wet, physically exhausted. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they said, you know, you don't look like your dress

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<v Speaker 2>properly long pants, white sweater, and I barely managed to

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<v Speaker 2>get it out and I said to him, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I do for a living? And they said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we know. And while I didn't want to get into it,

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<v Speaker 2>I did bring it up. You know, I'm very, very

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<v Speaker 2>tired and there's no question it was hot out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have to tell you that when you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>fashion to me, did I ever tell you or have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever heard that I wanted to run for president

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States? And it looked at me like

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<v Speaker 2>I was crazy. I said, yeah, I'm looking at everyone here,

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<v Speaker 2>including the two gentlemen you with and with all the

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<v Speaker 2>respect I'm aiming at them, but I wanted to run

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<v Speaker 2>on a platform of being president that the moment I

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<v Speaker 2>become president, all men of banned from wearing shorts. And

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at the two husbands or guys, and I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>look at men in shorts. I have seen in my

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<v Speaker 2>entire time here one guy, young guy, really built athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>look good in shorts. Other than him, there is no exception.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no one who looks good in shorts. And

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<v Speaker 2>then my second platform that I would stand on is

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<v Speaker 2>anyone wearing sandals. Any man wearing sandals, I put him

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<v Speaker 2>in jail. They have to go before me in a

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<v Speaker 2>hearing to get out of jail and promise they'll never

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<v Speaker 2>wear them again. So these guys and this women are

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<v Speaker 2>looking at me like I'm crazy. Before I finished, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy starts laughing and he says, i'd vote for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I started to be gracious. I was feeling better,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, listen, you know we've never spoken. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a recluse. I don't particularly like humans, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk to anybody. And now they're thinking I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>a nut. And I was getting a kick out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in my Larry David mode. But I did say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the subject of shorts, and you're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>me and saying, how could I possibly go out with

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<v Speaker 2>long pants? The sweater I put on when I got here.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, if you look at all the

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<v Speaker 2>people that live in the desert, they're all covered up

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<v Speaker 2>by cloth from head to toe. You look at all

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<v Speaker 2>the Arabs living in the middle of the heat, they're

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<v Speaker 2>fully clothed. And I said, there's something to be said

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<v Speaker 2>for that, because you're not taking the heat directly on

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<v Speaker 2>your skin. So maybe I'm not wrong, But for whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth, I would also say I'm hesitant. I can

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<v Speaker 2>only imagine what your tan lines look like, the whiteness

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<v Speaker 2>on your knees and your hips and your arms, not

436
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<v Speaker 2>for me, and it also got me thinking, and here

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I know I don't look my best. I

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm a mess. I know I didn't serve myself. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always said I'm an acquired taste. And I made

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<v Speaker 2>four new enemies, I'm sure, although I did think I

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<v Speaker 2>was charming, and I did smile a lot while I

442
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<v Speaker 2>was making a fool of myself and perhaps them. But

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<v Speaker 2>I watch people and I see the way they dress,

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<v Speaker 2>and it drives me crazy, which leads me. The other night,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a restaurant, cool place in Dumbo. Been

446
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<v Speaker 2>hanging out a little bit in Brooklyn, across from the bridge,

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<v Speaker 2>underneath the Brooklyn Bridge. Down under the Brooklyn Bridge is

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<v Speaker 2>not what Dumbo stands for. I forget, and I went

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<v Speaker 2>into a very cool restaurant. Everyone is young, The women

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<v Speaker 2>looked amazing. The men. You know, what do I have

451
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<v Speaker 2>to tell you? You know, it's scary. The women come in,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all dressed well, I mean, they're are women that

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<v Speaker 2>gave up. And I don't understand that. By the way,

454
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<v Speaker 2>there are guys who gave up and women gave up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at these couples and I'm saying, is this

456
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<v Speaker 2>what they look like on their wedding night? Is this

457
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<v Speaker 2>what they've allowed themselves to become? What happened here? When

458
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<v Speaker 2>did people give up? I went. I used to celebrity

459
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<v Speaker 2>golf tournaments. I used to sponsor celebrity golf tournaments Palm Springs.

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<v Speaker 2>I did the celebrity golf tournament for Frank Sinatra. His

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<v Speaker 2>wife was sponsor. They invited me to all the events.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up one night in Bob Hope's house, a

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<v Speaker 2>usual house in the middle of nowhere in Palm Spring,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had a whole lot of performances. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>sat with Robert Wagner and Jill Saint John and they

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<v Speaker 2>had entertainment coming up. And they had a guy forget

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<v Speaker 2>his name, don Or Dan, who opened for Frank Sinatra

468
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<v Speaker 2>all those years. And Jack Jones came up. Jack Jones

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day was a famous singer. And who

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<v Speaker 2>was he married to? All people Jill Saint John, who

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting next to in the audience round the tables

472
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<v Speaker 2>like the Golden Gloves, sitting having dinner, and all these

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<v Speaker 2>people are coming into reform. Jack Jones sang the song.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson sang the song he' his famous one, Hey Little girl,

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<v Speaker 2>comb your hair, fix your makeup. Soon he will walk

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<v Speaker 2>through the door. Don't think because there's a ring on

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<v Speaker 2>your finger. You needn't try any more. Because wives should

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<v Speaker 2>always be lovers to run to his arms the moment

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<v Speaker 2>he comes home to you. I'm warning you. So here

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<v Speaker 2>I am in this restaurant and looking at the couples

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<v Speaker 2>walking in, and I'm watching how they gave up. But

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that intrigued me more than anything was the

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<v Speaker 2>way the guys look, the young guys next to the women.

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<v Speaker 2>The young women were wearing fashion. They look amazing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think some of the shoe choices were tragic, but by

486
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<v Speaker 2>and large, the young girls look great. And the guys

487
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<v Speaker 2>either they look like their little brothers or they looked

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous next to them, beautiful dresses, dressed heels, not heels,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the shoes wear, the mids, some of them at

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<v Speaker 2>traffic tragic. But the guys look terrible with the turned

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<v Speaker 2>around hats, the T shirts to beggie short, the sneakers

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<v Speaker 2>or the sandal I mean ridiculous. And I have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about the future of the American and the world procreating.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a public service announcement. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>these attractive women who know what to wear, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the guys who don't. I'm looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>women looking attractive, and I'm looking at the guys and saying,

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<v Speaker 2>when did you decide to be a little brother to

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<v Speaker 2>this girl ear you're going out with. It's fascinating. If

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<v Speaker 2>I would line up ten women and ten guys, you'd

501
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>never put the ten guys with the right matches. There

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<v Speaker 2>are some guys who are trying wearing nice shirts. They

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<v Speaker 2>thought about the pants, their shoes. Very often the tragic,

504
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 2>but they're there. Guys, if you don't look attractive, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the future of the human race. We need you to

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<v Speaker 2>get married, we need you to have children, we need

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<v Speaker 2>a future here. I'm going to do this for the

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<v Speaker 2>last time, hopefully, but it's spring and summer and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a mess. Now here's the deal. I could just talk

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<v Speaker 2>like this and tell you that I'm well dressed all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I get it. I know everything, and hard

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<v Speaker 2>to argue with me. I often have these arguments with

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<v Speaker 2>someone and they try to discuss fashion with me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to argue with me, after all. CEO of two

515
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<v Speaker 2>big companies wrote two books on the radio podcasting Always

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<v Speaker 2>in Fashion, I do have some good credentials. If you

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<v Speaker 2>will work for the largest paralle company the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>the largest global luxury company. Well, it's hard to argue

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<v Speaker 2>with me, but I admit I don't always look good.

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<v Speaker 2>I make my mistakes. I you know, get up. Sometimes

521
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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel I can take it a shower, I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to, you know, mess with my hair

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<v Speaker 2>good enough. Maybe I don't shape, but I know when

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<v Speaker 2>I look good, and I know what I know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know when I'm trying. Guys, you have to think

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<v Speaker 2>about what you're doing. And that's tonight's show. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>I gave you a good example. Those of you who

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<v Speaker 2>don't greet me with shorts, those of you don't greet

529
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<v Speaker 2>me with sandals, those of you who think I'm a puffoon, arrogant,

530
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<v Speaker 2>an acquired taste. I agree with you. No argument here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think it's important to take a stand,

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<v Speaker 2>not stand still. I'll be back in a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>Always in Fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Lagefeld was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge approach

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<v Speaker 2>to style. His unique vision of Parisian shit comes to

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<v Speaker 2>America through car Lagafeld Paris. He has women's collections, men's collections,

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<v Speaker 2>ready to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. The fashion house

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<v Speaker 2>Carlagofeld also offers a range of watches I wear in

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<v Speaker 2>premium fragrances. You could explore the car Lagophl collection to

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<v Speaker 2>Carlagofhelparis dot com. But it's more than that. I have,

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<v Speaker 2>for one, love to shop. I love going around and

543
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<v Speaker 2>seeing what's happening and what catches my attention, what would

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<v Speaker 2>make me feel good to wear now. I don't wear

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<v Speaker 2>the women's wear obviously, but I can appreciate it and

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<v Speaker 2>they look amazing. If you want to look right, you

547
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 2>want to have clothes that fits you well. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to look like you're wearing something that's very expensive, that's

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<v Speaker 2>exclusive for you and yours. You can find at very

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<v Speaker 2>affordable prices at Macy'socarlagofel dot com Paris. The women's ready

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<v Speaker 2>to wear fashion is extraordinary, as well as the handbags

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<v Speaker 2>and the shoes. I for one wear men's clothes, unlike

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00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 2>my appreciation of women's clothes. I'm a modern guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna look current. I want to look the way I

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<v Speaker 2>want to feel. I go out at night, I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>black and Carl Lagafeld is my buddy. Carlos are great,

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<v Speaker 2>They fit great, and they have little tweaks and touches,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's a stripe on the sleeve or button at

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<v Speaker 2>the neck or on the shoulder. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>details that go into Carlagathel because he's always been he

561
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<v Speaker 2>always had been where of the world's great designers, and

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<v Speaker 2>this legacy and goes on and on. I can't speak

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<v Speaker 2>enough about it except to say to you, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to feel good about yourself. You want to know that

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<v Speaker 2>you're dressing properly. You want to clothes that fits you well.

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Lagafeld Paris, Carl Lagofeldparis dot com. My favorite brand

567
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<v Speaker 2>has always been ISOD. My company at one time bought

568
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<v Speaker 2>that brand. The CEO of the company handed it to

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<v Speaker 2>me and said, you better make it work. And I

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<v Speaker 2>put everything in my career to make ISOD work. And

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00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I fell in love with that brand, and to this

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<v Speaker 2>day it is one of the most exciting endeavors I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever got involved with. Isod is an incredibly strong golf brand.

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<v Speaker 2>If you play golf if you play tennis for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>They make a great polo shirts. I mean great. They're

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<v Speaker 2>fit perfect. The material is unique because it's a piquet

577
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<v Speaker 2>fabric that waffle leave, you see, and it's made of

578
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<v Speaker 2>a blend of cotton and microfiber that allows you to stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>And very often they are treated with solar protection as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so they stretch, they're comfortable, and they breathe well. And

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<v Speaker 2>one thing about isa they always fit. They'll never tug

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<v Speaker 2>on you. You put it in your waist that they'll

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<v Speaker 2>fit you great. The colors, patterns are sensational. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>will also tell Isaac makes great shorts and great golf pants.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a golf friend. You want to look good. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to think about how do I look. You

587
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<v Speaker 2>want to think about how you play, not how you feel.

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00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.519
<v Speaker 2>ISOD is the brand for you. I know I was

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<v Speaker 2>there when it was created. The strategy behind that brand

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<v Speaker 2>is brilliant. It's one of my favorite brands. While I

591
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<v Speaker 2>talk about it, I should tell you about the men's sportswear.

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00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 2>ISOD wasn't enough being a golf brand. It wasn't enough

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<v Speaker 2>being just great polo shirts with logos without logos, incredible

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<v Speaker 2>brand and story and history. ISAOD makes salt weather programs.

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<v Speaker 2>They have great printed woven shirts, short sleeves that look

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<v Speaker 2>excellent with colors, excellent with shorts, excellent with cotton pants,

597
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 2>of which they also make this whole salt order relaxed

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00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>line from ISOC, whether it be fleece, cotton sweaters, knit polos,

599
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>woven shirts and pants of a range of colors and

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00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 2>fabrics that are perfect for a guy wants to go

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<v Speaker 2>casually in the spring and summer of this year. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, ISOD is affordable. Everyone listening to me

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this brand can afford to buy it and

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<v Speaker 2>know that there are a lot of other brands that

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<v Speaker 2>also have a look like ISID. Although I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun as Eyaona is. The brand has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of energy in it, but at the price points no

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<v Speaker 2>one can compete. You can find eyes That at You're

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<v Speaker 2>leading retailers and online at ion dot com. Talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you later, guys. I wish you are very happy springing summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I help you by telling you if you were

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<v Speaker 2>eyes On, you're going to look great.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to it. Always in fashion, here's your host.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark webber Tonight, take a stand or stand still. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm thinking about. You either stand for something or

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<v Speaker 2>you don't do anything at all. I suppose either one works.

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<v Speaker 2>There are times where you have to step on the brakes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you take time to think about it, you don't

619
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>want to move forward. You need time to ponder. You

620
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 2>need a moment, very pause, a pregnant moment to make

621
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 2>sure you're going right. You need to say no, fine,

622
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I get it. But most times, or more times than that,

623
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>you'd have to take a stand. And that's what life

624
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 2>is about moving forward. You think of some of the

625
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>greatest people in the world. They've taken stands. They've done

626
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>what needs to be done to do the right thing.

627
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.119
<v Speaker 2>In every facet of light and politics, sports, life, people

628
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 2>are taking stands. You got to be smart about it.

629
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>You got to be well chosen. You got to think

630
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 2>about all the ramifications. You have to think about unattended consequences.

631
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>In business, you're making decisions every moment, every second, to

632
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.320
<v Speaker 2>make a decision on whether or not to go forward.

633
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 2>I get it, I respect it. But on a personal note,

634
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 2>don't ask me why. Maybe it's the summer, maybe spring,

635
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the fact that i'm outdoor, sitting in the beach or

636
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 2>sitting out back looking at the water or the grass

637
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. I have time to think, and I started

638
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:48.280
<v Speaker 2>to think about mistakes I've made. And I've also thought

639
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>about one story in particular where I've corrected something that

640
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 2>needed to be corrected and I was a part of that.

641
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.239
<v Speaker 2>But first, I want to tell you a story about

642
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the summer. Story that I'm about to tell you is

643
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>older than most of you listening. It's something that I

644
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 2>didn't do, but I should have done something about, and

645
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 2>it haunts me to this day. If you're on the radio,

646
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 2>you just heard Garden Party by Ricky Nelson, and that's

647
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.360
<v Speaker 2>what I want to talk about. If you're not on

648
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:29.119
<v Speaker 2>the radio, you're on podcasts listening. Picture the song garden Party.

649
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 2>It's a cute song. Anyway. I was the president of

650
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 2>the Venues and Shirt Company and we were having a

651
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 2>sales meeting in Biscayne Bay, Florida. We rented out the

652
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 2>entire resort. It was an incredible event. We had a

653
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 2>couple of hundred people and I was a senior most

654
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 2>guy at the event. My executive VP was the number

655
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 2>two guy. I had my nine regional sales managers and

656
00:37:56.519 --> 00:38:01.559
<v Speaker 2>all the people from Bridgewood, New Jersey, and New York

657
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:05.679
<v Speaker 2>who came and descended upon this event in Florida and

658
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Biscay Boulevard. I forget the name of the resort, I apologized,

659
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 2>but it was great. I had my own bungalow and

660
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.159
<v Speaker 2>we had the greatest food and everybody was happy. Was

661
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:19.559
<v Speaker 2>during the spring, so everybody was dressed. The women wearing

662
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 2>flower dresses. All the men came to the parties dressed

663
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>in appropriate pants, sport coats. You know. We were shirt

664
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:29.719
<v Speaker 2>companies who with shirts and ties pretty much that time.

665
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>All dressed up wearing our nice jewelry, nice watches. It

666
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 2>was evenings were elegant events, and they were appreciated it

667
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>by all. Tables were set up beautifully for buffet dinners,

668
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 2>and we made speeches even at the event. And we're

669
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 2>outdoors for this evening. And I was a young president.

670
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I was thirty four years old at the time, and

671
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I was so proud to be there. And when I

672
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:02.760
<v Speaker 2>looked back, I tell you what happened. You'll judge for yourself.

673
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I was too young, maybe I had the wrong

674
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>mindset on. But I can only tell you all these

675
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.840
<v Speaker 2>years later, I'm telling you, I still feel guilty. So

676
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>what happened. I made a speech, and I talked about

677
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>how proud I was being the head of the company,

678
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 2>how excited I was to be with everyone, how the

679
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 2>fact that we were doing so well as a company

680
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 2>allowed us to have an event like we were going

681
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:29.960
<v Speaker 2>to have over the next few days where we bring

682
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 2>the entire company together. We also had people from our

683
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.199
<v Speaker 2>warehouses and school Belhaven, Chattanooga, Tennessee. We had people from

684
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 2>our factories. At that time, headquarters was in Potsville, Pennsylvania,

685
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:42.159
<v Speaker 2>So we had all these guests and people there and

686
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 2>it was a great event. And made the speeches and

687
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I did well, and I was very proud of myself,

688
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.639
<v Speaker 2>and I was very corporate, and I had learned how

689
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>to speak. And after dinner, everyone was standing around the

690
00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 2>pool having cocktails, talking, having a great time. And we

691
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>were in a circle of people at the time, and

692
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I was holding court. Next to me on my left

693
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.320
<v Speaker 2>was a regional sales manager and a reginal salesman, a

694
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:15.039
<v Speaker 2>couple of and my executive p And as I tell you,

695
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.159
<v Speaker 2>the event was really elegant, and one guy in particular

696
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.599
<v Speaker 2>always well dressed. His name was Joe. I tell your

697
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 2>entire name, but I don't know where Joe is. I

698
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:27.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he wants me to retell the story.

699
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>And of course to my right was the executive vice

700
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 2>president of our sales division, who I enjoyed. I really

701
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 2>liked him. We were friends, and we're all around the pool.

702
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I got a little boisterous. So one time my executive

703
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:47.480
<v Speaker 2>VP decided to be funny and he hipped banged Joe,

704
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:53.440
<v Speaker 2>who was wearing beautiful brown swede shoes, brown pants, a

705
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>linen a crew blazer, a linen dress shirt and matching tie.

706
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>He looked amazing. He was well groomed guy, very good taste,

707
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.920
<v Speaker 2>and I remember he was wearing a beautiful Cartier watch

708
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Cardia with the tank watch with

709
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:12.039
<v Speaker 2>the brown leather strap. He hip bumped him and he

710
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 2>went into the pool. Threw him in the pool. In

711
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 2>the midst of this event, in front of everyone. Joe

712
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 2>was shocked, and I pushed him into the deep end.

713
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 2>He came up, he was sputtering water. He was shell shocked,

714
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 2>shell shocked, couldn't believe in a company event that this

715
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 2>would happen to him, and it visually affected him. He

716
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:45.760
<v Speaker 2>got out of the water. He was more upset than angry.

717
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 2>He looked at his watch and he said, you ruin

718
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>my watch. And the guy Phil was laughing, and I

719
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 2>was laughing. And it was one of those awkward moments

720
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:06.599
<v Speaker 2>life that people laughing and people weren't laughing. And as

721
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I said, I was a young president. And when I

722
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.440
<v Speaker 2>look back, now, what should I have done?

723
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Now?

724
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I did walk over to Joe and say, hey, I'm sorry.

725
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to say. And he went and

726
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 2>he disappeared, and he had to go back and change

727
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:26.280
<v Speaker 2>his clothes and dry his hair. And he did come

728
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 2>back eventually later because I think he said to himself that,

729
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't just disappear. It doesn't look right.

730
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>But what I didn't do is I didn't take philis

731
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 2>side and say what are you doing? What you did

732
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.639
<v Speaker 2>was totally unacceptable. You should go over and apologize. And

733
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you, I don't know what this

734
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:49.119
<v Speaker 2>does for your career. I don't know that you could

735
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.079
<v Speaker 2>stay with the company behaving that way. I didn't do

736
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 2>any of that. I thought it was funny. And as

737
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I tell you all these years later, that error in

738
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>judgment on my part has never been forgotten. Now, maybe

739
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Speaker 2>the lesson I learned is in life you have to

740
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 2>be Dudley, do right. You always have to take the

741
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:13.079
<v Speaker 2>high ground. You can't allow people to behave that way.

742
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 2>If people behave that way, there has to be repercussions.

743
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 2>That guy who pushed him in the pool didn't belong

744
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.920
<v Speaker 2>with the company anymore, and I didn't know enough to

745
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.760
<v Speaker 2>deal with it. I don't care how important he was.

746
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't care whether I liked him or didn't like him.

747
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I didn't take the appropriate action. All these years later, now,

748
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.199
<v Speaker 2>maybe thirty four I wasn't smart enough. Maybe thirty four

749
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't young enough. Maybe maybe maybe it can only

750
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:43.679
<v Speaker 2>tell you a summer. Maybe one of you out there

751
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:45.920
<v Speaker 2>is going to be at a pool party and think

752
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 2>it's funny to push someone in. I don't know, maybe

753
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:52.679
<v Speaker 2>this is helpful. You have to take a stand or

754
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:56.920
<v Speaker 2>stand still. I stood still that day, and I'll never

755
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 2>forgive myself and I'll never forget it. Now. Having said that,

756
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 2>take a moment to you absorb it. I'm really serious

757
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.800
<v Speaker 2>about it. I'm upset about the way I behaved, but

758
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I learned, and maybe maybe over time good comes from

759
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:23.199
<v Speaker 2>these things. Maybe I can tell you another story that

760
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I did good. I was part of a team that

761
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 2>good good, And I'll tell you a story. It's a

762
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 2>different one. As I said, I have time to think,

763
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 2>and I think about all these things. And there's never

764
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.800
<v Speaker 2>been a swimming pool I've stood around where I haven't

765
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>thought about that event. And there's never been an event

766
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I've gone to where it's outside by a pool where

767
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I haven't thought about it. And I'm embarrassed and I'm

768
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.000
<v Speaker 2>disappointed in myself. But I have to believe and learned.

769
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 2>There's a different part of it. Here's the other side

770
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.719
<v Speaker 2>of the world. I work with a guy in marketing

771
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:03.199
<v Speaker 2>and advertising who's elder states than me. Once again, his

772
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:07.559
<v Speaker 2>name should be left out to protect the innocence. He

773
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:11.599
<v Speaker 2>was a great guy, and he and I became extraordinarily

774
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:16.920
<v Speaker 2>close friends, working together very close. I admired him because

775
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:20.239
<v Speaker 2>he was twenty years my senior, fifteen years my senior.

776
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I had another area of respect, and frankly, you knew

777
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:25.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot more about the business than I would ever know.

778
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:29.480
<v Speaker 2>And we worked very closely together and developed this long term,

779
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:33.760
<v Speaker 2>lifelong friendship until he passed away a bunch of years ago,

780
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 2>and we're working and it was my first involvement, hands on,

781
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:44.320
<v Speaker 2>direct involvement with advertising. And don't ask me why. I

782
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>can't explain it. There's certain things in life that I'm

783
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 2>good at, and there were certain things in life that

784
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I was great at. When it came to the creative

785
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and visual I'm great at it. I could look at

786
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>something and know it's great. It doesn't mean I have

787
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>to create it. I can help create great. I'm a

788
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 2>good editor. But when it came to the visuals and

789
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 2>fashion advertising, I knew what was great. And he and

790
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I started to work together and there was a catalog

791
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 2>around the same time and fan Using were talking that

792
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 2>was being put together every year showing the dress shirts

793
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 2>in the best light that they could be shown in.

794
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 2>And it was terrible. It had no energy. That's the

795
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>word I'd give it. It had no energy. Taste levels mediocre,

796
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 2>it had no energy. It turns out that the company

797
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 2>that was doing the Cauntagogue was a friend of then

798
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Larry Phillips, the CEO of the company Phillips. Fan Using

799
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:41.360
<v Speaker 2>say it was a friend to Larry and he was

800
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Speaker 2>grandfather this deal, and he'd be doing this calagogue for

801
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 2>multiple years and it really was garbage. I was embarrassed

802
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 2>by it. I always was. I didn't know who to talk,

803
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>how to keep my mouth on. Now I'm in charge,

804
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 2>so I talked to my associate and I said to him, listen,

805
00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 2>we got to change this. This is terrible. I can't

806
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 2>work this. Bring the guy in, let's talk about what

807
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.159
<v Speaker 2>needs to be done. Brings the guy in, the owner

808
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:06.599
<v Speaker 2>of the company, Larry Phillips friend and I start to

809
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.760
<v Speaker 2>talk to him, and right away I could see his

810
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>back is up. Who's this young guy telling him how

811
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 2>to do a catalog? And I said to them, listen,

812
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:16.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not a question of whether or not

813
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you guys are capable, but this is not the image

814
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I want for the company. I want it youthful, I

815
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 2>want it more energetic. I want the photos to be shocking.

816
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.599
<v Speaker 2>I want to see them. After all, I learned from

817
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.119
<v Speaker 2>one of your counterparts that the number one rule in

818
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.039
<v Speaker 2>advertising was break through the clutter. There's a million things

819
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.079
<v Speaker 2>being advertised. If you think about it, that that way

820
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:43.199
<v Speaker 2>hit what advertisements all over the place. Everything we do, billboards, taxis, television, online.

821
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 2>You have to be seen. You have to break through

822
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the clutter. David Altman Altman, Stoller, and Weiss learned that

823
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.079
<v Speaker 2>lesson from him all those years ago. I can't believe

824
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I remember the name of the company. I said this

825
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 2>to the guy, and he's looking at me with the

826
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 2>dull face, and he's looking at me with that face

827
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 2>that you know what. Larry phil is my friend. I'm

828
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 2>going to do what I gotta do. He does the

829
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 2>first catalog for us. We take it. It's worse than

830
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:06.880
<v Speaker 2>any of the others. So I go to my friend

831
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:09.599
<v Speaker 2>and said, we've got to get rid of him. We

832
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 2>gave him a chance. You got to get rid of him.

833
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.800
<v Speaker 2>And I noticed, you know right away, he said, Mark,

834
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:15.239
<v Speaker 2>we got to do what's right. I don't care if

835
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:18.599
<v Speaker 2>he's Larry's friend. So we get rid of the guy.

836
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.920
<v Speaker 2>A couple of days later, I get called into a

837
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.199
<v Speaker 2>room by Larry Phillips. I'm there with my boss and

838
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.320
<v Speaker 2>a counterpart of mine. Three of us bruce me allan.

839
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Larry Phillips walks in. He said, I have some disturbing

840
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 2>news to tell you. He said, my friend, this is

841
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the guy who makes the catalogs, told me that my friend,

842
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the guy I work with, canceled the catalog business with him.

843
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Which is okay and in of itself, except that my

844
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 2>friend borrowed a thousand dollars from him and hadn't paid

845
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 2>him back. So I'm looking and listened to I said, so,

846
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 2>what what's the point here? He said, we're firing him,

847
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:03.400
<v Speaker 2>my friend. And I remember I was shell shocked, and

848
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 2>I said, but he's been with us for thirty three years.

849
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.159
<v Speaker 2>What am I missing? He borrowed money, he'll pay it back.

850
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:12.400
<v Speaker 2>And he looked at me, Larry, and he said, you

851
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:16.480
<v Speaker 2>don't borrow money from suppliers, let alone not pay them

852
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 2>back right away. He's fired. I remember the three of

853
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:23.679
<v Speaker 2>us after he walked out, crying. We loved this guy

854
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:25.599
<v Speaker 2>in our company. He was a great guy. He's an

855
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.199
<v Speaker 2>elder statesman, and what possessed him to borrow money? And

856
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 2>how bad was that? And I'll never forget. I got

857
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.559
<v Speaker 2>a call from the industrial psychologist in our company at

858
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the time, doctor Joel Goldberg, another guy, a older statesman.

859
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 2>What did you tell Larry today? I said, what are

860
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:45.400
<v Speaker 2>you talking about? This is one of the many times

861
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 2>that Larry Phillips wanted to fire me. You told him

862
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:52.000
<v Speaker 2>that it was okay? What the other guy did? I said,

863
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 2>I did nothing of the sort. I'm very close to

864
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 2>this guy. He's with the company thirty three years. I

865
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 2>was taken aback. You didn't believe he just to be

866
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:06.639
<v Speaker 2>fire And now I remember again compromising because of fear,

867
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and I said, look, it's not for me to decide

868
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:13.199
<v Speaker 2>whether it's right or wrong. I was just taken aback.

869
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 2>If Larry Phillips doesn't understand that, I'm sorry, but it's

870
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 2>his decision. I respect it. So now I got a

871
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.880
<v Speaker 2>black mark against me, and it was really ugly. I

872
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 2>want to fast forward two years later. The guy we

873
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.320
<v Speaker 2>fired suffered, suffered, couldn't get a job, couldn't get a

874
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 2>job where he was. I don't want to go into

875
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>the personal details. He was really having a tough time.

876
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:42.360
<v Speaker 2>We were worried for his safety. And as life would

877
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 2>intercede or luck would have it, Larry Phillips had left

878
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 2>the company in a proxy fight with my friend who

879
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:52.360
<v Speaker 2>became the CEO, Bruce. He was angry at something going

880
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 2>on in the company. He didn't want to support an

881
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 2>acquisition that we were making of Gant and Isaart, and

882
00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:58.920
<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm not supporting it, and the board said,

883
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 2>we want to support the younger team. In the company.

884
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:03.880
<v Speaker 2>At the time, Larry Phillips was sixty six years old

885
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and Bruce and I were in our early fifties, late forties,

886
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 2>early fifties. Said Larry, you're sixty six, you're thinking about retirement.

887
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 2>We know your energy levels that day. You're a wealthy guy.

888
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.679
<v Speaker 2>If you put it to this this way and you

889
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 2>make us fight it out, we're going to choose the

890
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:21.800
<v Speaker 2>other team. And as it worked out, Larry chose to

891
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 2>leave the company if in fact we could get someone

892
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 2>to buy his shares, and my friend Bruce went to

893
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Hong Kong and found one of the most prestigious companies

894
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.440
<v Speaker 2>in Hong Kong, great family suppliers, friend stores who invested

895
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:36.639
<v Speaker 2>in the company, became board members and made a lot

896
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.639
<v Speaker 2>of money. Eventually, with the stock they bought out Larry's shares.

897
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Larry left. So it's two years later industrial collegist calls

898
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:47.440
<v Speaker 2>the three of us together against we have to hire

899
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 2>our friend back. He's in bad shape. I'm fearful where

900
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:53.960
<v Speaker 2>it'll become of him if we don't hire him back.

901
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.079
<v Speaker 2>And we did, and I'll never forget how happy I

902
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:03.079
<v Speaker 2>was that we brought him back. He explained to us

903
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the problem he was having financially had every intention of

904
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.079
<v Speaker 2>paying him back, and he said to me, Mark, do

905
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 2>you think I ever made a decision in business based

906
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:13.000
<v Speaker 2>on whether or not I borrowed money. You know me,

907
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 2>my reputation is the toughest guy to do business. And

908
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I was tough with this guy. He loved me all along,

909
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:21.320
<v Speaker 2>as I thought he was a friend. But the minute

910
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 2>I didn't give him his catalog anymore, which frankly, was

911
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 2>your decision, not mine, which I agree with wholeheartedly, the

912
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 2>guy goes to behind my back and tells Larry, I'm

913
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:34.559
<v Speaker 2>a bad guy. So that dirt bag destroyed my friend. Well,

914
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.119
<v Speaker 2>we brought him back. We gave him a new life.

915
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I work with him, hand in glove. I'm patting myself

916
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>on the back right now. As I said before, I

917
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.920
<v Speaker 2>had a vision for what our advertising should look like,

918
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:50.159
<v Speaker 2>and he had a vision on how to execute it brilliantly.

919
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Him and I worked together for ten years. We were

920
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.079
<v Speaker 2>words in music, the closest of friends. I loved him.

921
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I believe he loved me and my family. We brought

922
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 2>him back in the company. We gave him a life.

923
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>My friend Bruce made the decision to do it. I

924
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.079
<v Speaker 2>was the one who worked with him to give him

925
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 2>his dignity and give him his life back. And the

926
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:16.519
<v Speaker 2>point of tonight is sometimes you take a stand and

927
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:22.880
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you stand still. Either way could work. I believe

928
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.440
<v Speaker 2>in taking a stand. And when I did it with

929
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.960
<v Speaker 2>this guy whose name shall continue to be left out,

930
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:32.159
<v Speaker 2>to protect the innocent, we saved the life, we saved

931
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:35.119
<v Speaker 2>the family, and we did great things. And for that

932
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm internally proud. I immediately as proud of the role

933
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I played in bringing him back as I was in

934
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 2>embarrassed by not taking the right stand at the garden party.

935
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 2>So when you listen to this, we all have choices

936
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:53.440
<v Speaker 2>to make. I tell you, nothing worthwhile in life is easy.

937
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:57.960
<v Speaker 2>We all don't have the answers. We all make right decisions,

938
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 2>we all make mistakes. We all applaud our successes, we

939
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:06.679
<v Speaker 2>applaud our winds. We try and win whenever we can.

940
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Nothing is easy, Nothing worth while in life is easy.

941
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 2>But here we are where individuals, we are families. We

942
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:19.199
<v Speaker 2>have to make decisions and business it's every minute, every day.

943
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>You have to be proud of yourself. You have to

944
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.960
<v Speaker 2>have integrity. In my case, I've had my wins, I've

945
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 2>had my losses. I've done a lot right and I've

946
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:30.199
<v Speaker 2>made mistakes. But one thing I can tell you, you

947
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 2>have a choice, take a stand or stand still. I

948
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:36.559
<v Speaker 2>vote for taking a stand. Good Night,