Speaker 1: And now it's time for Joe Escalante live from Hollywood.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, as I said, two hours of the business
Speaker 2: end of show business, which also includes a lot of
Speaker 2: defamation cases. Everybody soon everybody for defamation. So we're going
Speaker 2: to start this show before we get to the box
Speaker 2: office and all that stuff. Let's start with a little defamation.
Speaker 2: I want to go ahead and pull up that defamation
Speaker 2: theme song. Oh we don't have one, all right, Well
Speaker 2: it's something to think about. Uh. There's a prominent defamation
Speaker 2: lawsuit pitting French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife, Brigitte
Speaker 2: rep Macron against conservative podcaster Candace Owens. Have you heard
Speaker 2: about this one, Sam?
Speaker 3: I have not, but I know Candace Owens is kind
Speaker 3: of trying to get her name out there a little
Speaker 3: bit more, or saying things that more and more people
Speaker 3: are finding disagreeable.
Speaker 2: I guess poor or again a people love her. I've
Speaker 2: had people that come to me, are you watching Candace
Speaker 2: Owe's on on YouTube? She's amazing that. I watched her,
Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, I'm a pretty conservative person,
Speaker 2: so I go, okay, well you know, uh, but then
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, she's bold, and yeah, she's causing fireworks.
Speaker 2: And then she started talking about something that I happen
Speaker 2: to know a lot about And then I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: she doesn't know what she's talking about on this subject,
Speaker 2: so maybe she doesn't know what she's talking about on
Speaker 2: other subjects. Is what I had to conclude. And I,
Speaker 2: you know what, I've been kind of radicalized by podcasts
Speaker 2: in a way where I don't believe anybody any any
Speaker 2: I don't believe anything anybody says anymore. But this one
Speaker 2: is juicy, So let's dive into it. Sam. Now, as
Speaker 2: we go into this defamation case, our listeners will know
Speaker 2: from listening to this show, what are the elements of
Speaker 2: a defamation case that you have to have to win
Speaker 2: a deformation case? Number one? Sam, what is it?
Speaker 3: It makes me spit on the ground?
Speaker 2: Two? Yeah, it has to be something terrible that they
Speaker 2: say it makes people spit on the ground. Hawk two
Speaker 2: girl is I don't know why you're bringing her up.
Speaker 3: No, it was just a iron chic reference.
Speaker 2: Oh, iron cheek. Okay, you're BRONI Yeah, okay, So it
Speaker 2: has to be something that makes people spit on the ground.
Speaker 2: And what's the other one?
Speaker 3: It has to be provably false.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be not true.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So and then if it's a celebrity. Then you need
Speaker 2: this higher level of malice. There has to be something
Speaker 2: that they know it was false. They knew it was false,
Speaker 2: and they had an agenda to harm the person. That
Speaker 2: would be a good case of malice. So this lawsuit
Speaker 2: filed by these French people in our own American Delaware
Speaker 2: court accuses Candas Owens of repeatedly spreading the false claim
Speaker 2: that Brigitte Macron is a man. According to the Macrones
Speaker 2: legal team, this amounts to a campaign of global humiliation.
Speaker 2: The lawyer stated that the law suit was just, you know,
Speaker 2: a last resort of sorts after years of unsuccessful attempts
Speaker 2: to get Owens to retract her statements. Did they go
Speaker 2: as far as to show the private parts? No, they didn't.
Speaker 2: They said that they don't want to dignify her with
Speaker 2: any kind of picks Owens, she responded, She said, Avis,
Speaker 2: this is a desperate public relations strategy, and she has
Speaker 2: doubled down on her claims that that Brigitte is a man.
Speaker 2: The complaint filed UH is a two hundred and nineteen
Speaker 2: pages of allegations and evidence asserting that Brigitte mat Crone
Speaker 2: was in fact born a woman. She's always been a woman.
Speaker 2: So I would say it's something that is proved. You could,
Speaker 2: if you can prove its false, come in and prove
Speaker 2: it's false. You know, maybe a DNA test. I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not a licensed to practice medicine in California, but
Speaker 2: I would assume a DNA test would would would? I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's other tests, but like a chromosome test,
Speaker 2: I don't know. You can prove that she was a man? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean that she was a woman and she always
Speaker 2: been a woman. So now we got that one taken
Speaker 2: care of. If and then is it something makes me
Speaker 2: people spit on the ground. Well, you could argue either way, like,
Speaker 2: well there's no harm in being a trans woman.
Speaker 3: It depends on who you're asking, right.
Speaker 2: And it depends on the jury. But I would say,
Speaker 2: if you're masquerading as a woman and you're really a
Speaker 2: man and you don't tell people that it makes people
Speaker 2: spit on the ground, you're committing a lie. To the
Speaker 2: French people, Okay, you're like Marie Antoinette or something. So
Speaker 2: they've got the elements. Now what about the malice? What
Speaker 2: do you think, Sam, she's a public figure people, do
Speaker 2: people really believe her? When she says this is that
Speaker 2: she's a man, you know? Or is it like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is a right wing podcaster railing against a liberal
Speaker 2: European leader.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say because it is it really actually malicious?
Speaker 3: Where's the what's the malicious intent of it? And are
Speaker 3: they trying to just poke fun or are they actually
Speaker 3: trying to create some kind of a measurable stir because
Speaker 3: of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good analysis. The people know
Speaker 2: that she's trying to get clicks, she's trying to get views, likes,
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. So I think people would say,
Speaker 2: you know what, that's just an American podcaster saying that's,
Speaker 2: you know, like they said about Michelle Obama. That's a
Speaker 2: lot of people say, I've never seen Michelle Obama sue
Speaker 2: anyone over it. But this woman is a bit relentless.
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's a winner. But what does
Speaker 2: it do? It chills her speech and she might get
Speaker 2: a little she might drop it because she has a
Speaker 2: two hundred and nineteen or whatever it is page document
Speaker 2: that when you tell your lawyers you're defending a defamation
Speaker 2: case with the two hundred nineteen pages in it, they're
Speaker 2: gonna say, well, you got to give me two hundred
Speaker 2: nineteen thousand dollars to handle this. However, there is a
Speaker 2: way for Candae to get out of this and might
Speaker 2: maybe make some money. And I will tell you what
Speaker 2: that is after we break for traffic Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood.
Speaker 3: Before we go, I actually now have our defamation theme song.
Speaker 3: Oh you do, let's hear Yeah, that's about five seconds long.
Speaker 3: Defamation time.
Speaker 4: Come on that?
Speaker 2: Pretty good? Pretty good? I like it all?
Speaker 3: Right, Off to break land.
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Speaker 2: All right. The the the story we're talking about is
Speaker 2: Candice Owen's getting sued by the King and Queen of
Speaker 2: France or whatever they're called all over there, Emmanuel Macral
Speaker 2: and Brigitte Macrawl. And she says, there is no doubt
Speaker 2: this woman, the first Lady of France, is in fact
Speaker 2: a man born a man. And not only is a woman,
Speaker 2: deny it, she's suing for defamation. So we established that
Speaker 2: she had a that they don't have a good case
Speaker 2: against Candice owns, but they are going to drive her nuts.
Speaker 2: And make her pay a team of lawyers to sift
Speaker 2: through this two hundred nineteen one thousand dollars I mean
Speaker 2: two hundred nine now probably two hundred nineteen page a complaint.
Speaker 2: Now there's something you can do if someone sues you
Speaker 2: for defamation and you're just like a podcaster. You have
Speaker 2: a free speech right. We have First Amendment, So there
Speaker 2: is something that protects people, and I assume it applies
Speaker 2: in this case. Sometimes there's like an exception here and there,
Speaker 2: but I don't think I see one in this particular case.
Speaker 2: The anti slap motion that she can file. So this
Speaker 2: is what you do when someone's suing you and has
Speaker 2: a lot of money and they think they can ruin
Speaker 2: you by filing a nuisance lawsuit, which this I think
Speaker 2: is kind of a nuisance lawsuit because they just don't
Speaker 2: really have any chance of prevailing unless they went forum
Speaker 2: shopping and found, like you know, maybe when of those
Speaker 2: Washington DC courts that hates conservatives. It's possible, but I
Speaker 2: think maybe that's what they're banking on. But she is
Speaker 2: going to file an anti slap motion, which means, hey,
Speaker 2: I have a First Amendment right to do this. You
Speaker 2: have to prove and that shifts the burden on them
Speaker 2: on the people suing you. Okay, you prove that you're
Speaker 2: likely to win, and if you can show that to
Speaker 2: the judge that you're likely to win, then the judgeill say, okay,
Speaker 2: this is a pretty good case here. We got to
Speaker 2: go forward because people need to be able to use
Speaker 2: the courts for their defamation, be protective against defamation. But
Speaker 2: if the judge looks at it and goes, this is silly,
Speaker 2: You're not going to win. You lose the anti slap motion.
Speaker 2: Then you have to pay. Candice owns legal fees, so
Speaker 2: it's very risky and a risky and her legal fees
Speaker 2: are going to be quite high because this they've they've
Speaker 2: really piled on her with a two hundred plus plage complaint.
Speaker 3: Now where is is she filing the suit? In France
Speaker 3: or out here?
Speaker 2: I think it's Outer France.
Speaker 3: The outer France, not as opposed to Inner Mongolia.
Speaker 2: Now outer France where the where the coneheads are from?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, this was filed in the Delaware court. Okay,
Speaker 2: Now these are lefties up there, probably, but I mean
Speaker 2: they're Americans. They probably don't like to see people railroaded
Speaker 2: by a foreign power, or the at least give her
Speaker 2: a shot at filing this the anti slap suit and
Speaker 2: getting her legal fees paid. So before it would be
Speaker 2: like if everybody with all the money would control the
Speaker 2: courts and make sure that you can't you're just gonna
Speaker 2: be sorry you ever mess with the big entity, that's
Speaker 2: gonna you know, wipe the floor of the courtroom with
Speaker 2: your face and stuff like that. But now that with
Speaker 2: the anti slap motions available in most cases, you can
Speaker 2: you can fight back. So the little the little guy
Speaker 2: is a really good law because the little guy has been.
Speaker 3: Are there anti slap laws in Delaware?
Speaker 2: Well, that is a good question. They might. They might have.
Speaker 2: They might have filed it there because they don't have them.
Speaker 2: But in a normal situation that our listeners might be in,
Speaker 2: remember the anti slap lawsuit. Now, what else is there
Speaker 2: going on in the defamation world. We have another defamation case.
Speaker 3: It does have an anti slap law.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so she's she's gonna be fine. Yeah. President
Speaker 2: Trump also has a deformation case against a Wall Street journal.
Speaker 2: He filed a ten billion dollar suit against the newspaper
Speaker 2: and its owner, Rupert Murdoch. And I thought they used
Speaker 2: to be friends. It comes after the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 2: published an article on July seventeenth that Trump sent a
Speaker 2: sexually suggestive letter and a drawing for Epstein's fiftieth birthday
Speaker 2: in two thousand and three. Of course that Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 2: is the pedo file that everybody is just wishing would
Speaker 2: go away. And everybody thinks that they can get all
Speaker 2: the files released, that it's going to hurt their political enemies,
Speaker 2: but no one really knows, but it is. It is
Speaker 2: weird that, like, did Donald Trump campaigned on campaign on,
Speaker 2: you know, getting to the bottom of this, and then
Speaker 2: all a sudden said, what are you talk about? Why
Speaker 2: are you guys talking about this. Let's move on. We
Speaker 2: got other things to do. You're still talking about that.
Speaker 2: That strategy didn't work?
Speaker 3: What phony dog poop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that strategy didn't work. So so people are still
Speaker 2: you know, all over it. And so he's filing this
Speaker 2: against the Wall Street Journal. I now, Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 2: let's go see if they have the Let's first let's
Speaker 2: see what's on the I know we're gonna hit but okay,
Speaker 2: this is what's in the letter. Okay, I haven't seen
Speaker 2: the letter I don't even know if they published it,
Speaker 2: but I got a description of a letter from one
Speaker 2: of my sources. Type. Okay, it's a typewritten text framed
Speaker 2: by the outline of a naked woman. So we got
Speaker 2: an outline of a naked woman. It's like hand drawn
Speaker 2: with a black marker. So you got to picture whether
Speaker 2: you believe Donald Trump did this. The drawing reportedly features
Speaker 2: a pair of small arcs denoting a woman's breasts, a
Speaker 2: squiggly Donald signature allegedly placed below the woman's waist, mimicking
Speaker 2: public hare.
Speaker 3: Out in the public too. Yeah, I didn't know we
Speaker 3: could do that.
Speaker 2: Pubicare really what it is?
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: The letter was reportedly styled as an imaginary third person
Speaker 2: conversation between Trump and Epstein. It concludes with the line
Speaker 2: happy birthday and may every day be another wonderful secret.
Speaker 2: President Trump is vehemently denied writing the letter or drawing
Speaker 2: the picture, calling it fake and stating these are not
Speaker 2: my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don't
Speaker 2: draw pictures, So.
Speaker 3: That was the one that was the most easily even
Speaker 3: readily debunked, because he's drawn pictures before for charities.
Speaker 2: He draws pictures Okay, Yeah, but that's not what they
Speaker 2: have to prove is wrong. They have to prove that
Speaker 2: he wrote it. Yeah. And if people say I don't
Speaker 2: draw pictures, that's not evidence of any kind.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I was a traffic judge, everyone came in, it's
Speaker 2: the same thing. I never speed there. I always stop
Speaker 2: at that stop sign, and I go, that's not evidence,
Speaker 2: So not evidence. So it it is. Now they're gonna go,
Speaker 2: h they maybe they have an anti slap suit that
Speaker 2: they can go against him, and they'll have to prove
Speaker 2: or establish that that that it's what they're saying about
Speaker 2: him is false, that they put a false report out there.
Speaker 2: So someone's gonna have to prove that this thing was
Speaker 2: written by him, and that will be the crux of
Speaker 2: the case. But do they have Is there any actual malice?
Speaker 2: I think there is. I think there is a malice
Speaker 2: to destroy him, like everybody else wants to destroy him.
Speaker 2: So I believe you've got actual malice. We'll see if
Speaker 2: it's It makes people spit on the ground, and we'll
Speaker 2: see if it's true or not, so that one might
Speaker 2: go forward. And now we will go forward with another
Speaker 2: break and come back with more Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean burd Bank,
Speaker 2: two hours of the business, end of show business, and
Speaker 2: I think we're done with defamation for the day. Said,
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit dry to me. It's I like
Speaker 2: it because people are always thinking about, like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: sue this guy for saying this, and I think it's
Speaker 2: it's good to pound into people's heads how hard it
Speaker 2: actually is, so that you won't clog up the courts
Speaker 2: with frivolous lawsuits. But right now the courts are so
Speaker 2: clogged because this is it. You're living in different times
Speaker 2: because people are now, well, I don't like what the
Speaker 2: president's doing, I'm going to file a lawsuit. Okay, Well
Speaker 2: the president doesn't like what the newspaper's doing. He's going
Speaker 2: to file a lawsuit, and everyone should just knock it off.
Speaker 3: It would be nice if we weren't so litigious. I agree.
Speaker 2: It's just like just like knock it off. Like the
Speaker 2: guy does this thing, and then you vote to vote
Speaker 2: him out if you don't like his thing, you know,
Speaker 2: and you start going to judges and then pretty soon
Speaker 2: everyone's going to well this this. Uh, we're going to
Speaker 2: go to a New York jury where we can get
Speaker 2: hit them to do what we want. What kind of
Speaker 2: justice is that if you're like, if we're shopping around
Speaker 2: your form shopping like that, it's wrong. And if everybody,
Speaker 2: if the president sues everybody that says an things. Now
Speaker 2: he's talking about suing. I mean, I'm singing that's wrong too,
Speaker 2: to sue everybody that all your enemies. He Now, he says,
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris paid Beyonce and paid Oprah Winfrey, and that
Speaker 2: is a violation of election laws. You know what you want,
Speaker 2: just just drop it, you know. But he's also a troll.
Speaker 2: He's the troll in chief, so he's trolling these people.
Speaker 2: And his trolling has has served him well because now
Speaker 2: he's wildly popular among his base and his enemies are,
Speaker 2: you know, not doing great. So it's not my style.
Speaker 2: But that's why I don't have the stomach for this.
Speaker 2: I just don't. I have a lot of lawyers in
Speaker 2: the in the entertainment industry that do a lot of
Speaker 2: great things, and they're all famous, and I don't, Well,
Speaker 2: they're not my friends. I don't have friends like that.
Speaker 2: But you know, they're all in the papers. You see
Speaker 2: these famous entertainment lawyers. They're just really filing these big
Speaker 2: cases and repers, sending these powerful people.
Speaker 3: You know who's not afraid you can't do it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, who's not afraid to jump into the line
Speaker 3: of fire like that south Park.
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about that. That was south Park, that
Speaker 2: was entertaining before we Okay, before we do the box office,
Speaker 2: let's talk about south Park. The well, actually, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about that when we talk about Cole Bear. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's yeah, that's wrapped up in co Bear in Paramount.
Speaker 2: We're going to do the whole Paramount thing because that's news.
Speaker 2: That's news right now, breaking news about Paramount and the
Speaker 2: deal getting improved. Let's start with the box office for
Speaker 2: a little bit. We got two hours, Yeah, we got
Speaker 2: time number one in the box office, Fantastic four First Steps.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but it did one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighteen million at the box office and number one.
Speaker 3: It's not bad. From what I'm hearing from all the nerds,
Speaker 3: it's really good.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Yeah, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: Same with Superman.
Speaker 2: Superman I have seen it's really good and the nerds
Speaker 2: like it. Yeah, but Superman has only done in three weeks.
Speaker 2: It has done two hundred and eighty nine million, and
Speaker 2: Fantastic Four did one hundred and eighteen in its first week,
Speaker 2: so it has a chance to cat I don't think
Speaker 2: it's going to catch up, though. Jurassic World still Birth,
Speaker 2: Oh no, says Rebirth.
Speaker 3: I saw that one.
Speaker 2: I thought it was good, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I haven't watched one since the since the first one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I liked Scarlett Johansson. But you're you're less than
Speaker 2: enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 3: It was fine, fine, it was It was good. It's
Speaker 3: a good movie to see in the theater, but it's
Speaker 3: not necessarily a good.
Speaker 2: Movie, thank you very much. I agree. Formula one the movie.
Speaker 2: Still haven't seen it now that it's out of the
Speaker 2: big D box movies or whatever theaters, IMAX's and x
Speaker 2: X cinemas, I don't want to watch it on my phone.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: The Smurfs, that's number five. Do you know? Do you
Speaker 2: know that the Mexicans and maybe even all Latino Americans,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I think they do. The Spanish speaking
Speaker 2: world has a done other word for smurf? Really yes,
Speaker 2: Because I guess maybe s MURFH is not smurfhs. No,
Speaker 2: it's you would never guess what it's called. P tufos.
Speaker 3: What are pos?
Speaker 2: They're smurfs told, yeah, smarts a padufo. Okay, p tuoful.
Speaker 2: So that's just like you know, heyky, passa p tufos.
Speaker 2: If you ever see a couple of couple guys hanging
Speaker 2: around in the corner, you know that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Number six I know what you did last summer. My
Speaker 2: wife saw it and said, meh, you know it's okay. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's done twenty three million for a horror movie that
Speaker 2: doesn't seem very good.
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't think anybody cares what they did
Speaker 3: last time.
Speaker 2: How to drain your tame your drag, tame your dragon,
Speaker 2: train your dragon.
Speaker 3: Drain your dragon.
Speaker 2: It would be a little weird, how to drain your dragon.
Speaker 2: I just did that during the break. Actually that's a
Speaker 2: huge success and people say it's just amazing. Number eight
Speaker 2: is a film called Eddington that I saw and we'll
Speaker 2: talk about just a bit. And number nine is a
Speaker 2: Bollywood movie Say and OHI from Sony Pictures rounds up
Speaker 2: at number ten Eddington, Are you familiar with this film.
Speaker 3: No, I've one of my friends went to see it
Speaker 3: and I had no idea what he was talking about.
Speaker 3: I had not gotten any information on it.
Speaker 2: Got to get on. You gotta get into this movie.
Speaker 2: So the latest from director Ari Astor, known for his
Speaker 2: unique and often unsettling horror films like Hereditary. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Midsommer starring Florence Pugh, Yes, everybody's favorite. Yes, this movie
Speaker 2: star studied cast, Sam You're gonna love it, Joaquin Phoenix,
Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal who's in every movie, Emma Stone, Austin Butler okay,
Speaker 2: and a cast of thousands. Okay. It's set in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: The COVID nineteen pandemic is in full force in a
Speaker 2: fictional New Mexico town. You like it so far?
Speaker 3: So far, it's a fictional story.
Speaker 2: They call it a neo Western black comedy. Ooh, it doves.
Speaker 3: In the darkest of comedies. Yes.
Speaker 2: It delves into the political and social turmoil of time,
Speaker 2: revolving around a bitter rivalry between a small town sheriff
Speaker 2: played by Walking Phoenix. Masterful performance from Walking and the
Speaker 2: incumbent mayor, Pedro Pascal. Pretty good performance so far.
Speaker 3: This is the plot to Blazing Saddles, but go on
Speaker 3: a little bit over issues like mask mandates and a
Speaker 3: proposed data center they're going to put, you know, in
Speaker 3: this po dunk town and you know, either help everybody
Speaker 3: or ruin it.
Speaker 2: The plot escalates into profound and disturbing turns, exploring themes
Speaker 2: of contemporary American society, conspiracy theories, and violence. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it just came out on July eighteenth, and you know,
Speaker 2: they it's like a blend of political drama, action, social commentary, satire,
Speaker 2: showcasing Astor's distinctive style in a new context because his
Speaker 2: I mean, midsommar and hereditary and nothing like this.
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued. Now, Yeah, you sold it very well.
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's just it's just like like if you're
Speaker 2: sick of superhero movies and horror movies, this is a
Speaker 2: great movie about a small town. Like one guy's running
Speaker 2: for mayor and then the sheriff's decides, So I think
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run for mayor, which is the plot of
Speaker 2: Burt Reynolds's White Lightning, where he plays the character Gator
Speaker 2: McCluskey good And I think he's he's gonna run for
Speaker 2: mayor or shaff for something anyways, And so that's a
Speaker 2: movie where like he wins and then he looks in
Speaker 2: the law books and finds out he can take the
Speaker 2: old share, and well he can take the mayor. I
Speaker 2: think he becomes the mayor, and then he takes the
Speaker 2: sheriff and moves his office into the men's room because
Speaker 2: it says he can put the guy's office anywhere he wants.
Speaker 3: That's funny.
Speaker 2: So all right, there you have your recommendation, Eddington. I
Speaker 2: also saw another movie not as good. I didn't think
Speaker 2: maybe did you ever see the movie Sinners?
Speaker 3: No, not yet. I've been meaning to see it. I've heard,
Speaker 3: I've heard good things.
Speaker 2: A successful movie, wildly successful, Southern Gothic. They're calling it
Speaker 2: Sam nineteen thirties Mississippi. It's two brothers. They go back
Speaker 2: to their small town and open up a juke joint,
Speaker 2: only to encounter that the vampires are I've taken over
Speaker 2: the town.
Speaker 3: That sounds like the plot to From Dusk Till Dawn.
Speaker 2: This is from Dusk Till Dawn, but in nineteen thirty two,
Speaker 2: without Goddess selma Oh. One of the reviews on letterbox said,
Speaker 2: too long crappy idea, expensive execution, very good execution, like
Speaker 2: beautiful special effects. And then this is I'm reading from
Speaker 2: a review. Y'all call this original because your fancy asses
Speaker 2: didn't watch from Dusk till Dawn because it was a
Speaker 2: fun because it's a fun B movie.
Speaker 3: See what I'm saying is that you like going to
Speaker 3: the letterbox reviews that are the one star reviews.
Speaker 2: I started at the half stars. I never get to
Speaker 2: the one stars. They're so good. Here's another one, extremely overhyped,
Speaker 2: insultingly bad Disney Channel esque slot for people who say
Speaker 2: they like rap and only listen to Kendrick Mustard. Ass movie.
Speaker 2: I don't know there's another one. Storyline was rubbish scene
Speaker 2: where Rick James just turns up out of nowhere is
Speaker 2: effing cringe. The film is general in general, was all
Speaker 2: over the place. Wasn't really sure what message it was
Speaker 2: trying to portray. Was it about racist clan members or
Speaker 2: is it about we're dancing vampires? Bag of poop? And
Speaker 2: then it doesn't end.
Speaker 3: James coming out of nowhere sounds amazing.
Speaker 2: And not to that guy. They sold it not to
Speaker 2: that guy. So the director is Ryan Coogler. He did
Speaker 2: Black Panther and Creed Michael B. Jordan's stars. Great directing,
Speaker 2: great acting, a great special effects, but what a stupid movie.
Speaker 2: Because number one is Dustill Dawn or a thousand vampires
Speaker 2: And when vampires come to your town, what happens? You
Speaker 2: have to kill him and then if they bite you,
Speaker 2: then you're one of them. I get it. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I can't kill this person. It used to be my friend. Oh,
Speaker 2: but I have to because if I don't, this person
Speaker 2: will kill me and everyone in the town. And it's like, wow,
Speaker 2: I've seen that before.
Speaker 3: And every vampire movie out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm not interested. I'm not invested. And then
Speaker 2: it never ended, had like an extra half hour at
Speaker 2: the end, like a like a bad Harry Potter movie. Stamp. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I thought it would be overhyped, and then when I
Speaker 2: saw it, it was over hyped. So I can't recommend Sinners.
Speaker 2: I can recommend Eddington. And let's take a break, check
Speaker 2: the traffic, and come back with more. Joe Scalante Live
Speaker 2: from Hollywood. Joe's Galante Live from Hollywood. My Hollywood, You
Speaker 2: mean bar Bank? Hey, So yeah, we talked about Eddington.
Speaker 2: Recommended it Sinners. The as far as television goes, Sam,
Speaker 2: I've been watching a show called The hunter Wives on Netflix, Okay,
Speaker 2: and it's about it's a little bit silly. You know.
Speaker 2: It's funny when you see a TV show and you
Speaker 2: know how it got made because someone walked into a
Speaker 2: Hollywood Guys executive office and says, okay, picture this. Britney Snow.
Speaker 2: She's a charming former pr person for Democratic candidates in
Speaker 2: the big city, but now her husband took a job
Speaker 2: in Texas. She shout fish out of water, trying to
Speaker 2: uh navigate her way through the social scene of big
Speaker 2: money Texas people. And she's and all the Texas people
Speaker 2: are Are they fine Americans? Patriots? Sam?
Speaker 3: They are Texans, you know, in this in this thing,
Speaker 3: they are hypocrites. They are big, big hat, big bult,
Speaker 3: big hair, big belt buckle wearing Texans.
Speaker 2: In this thing, they're all hypocrites, and they're perverts, and
Speaker 2: they're crup they're crooked. So then in Hollywood, when you
Speaker 2: hear this pitch, do you go, oh, yeah, I love this.
Speaker 2: I'm putting it right on the air. So however, as
Speaker 2: you know, cartoonish as that is, and stereo typing Texans
Speaker 2: is I guess allowed uh and make in a negative way.
Speaker 2: They're all stereotyped as negative. Ah. And the the Britney
Speaker 2: Snow character, she has weaknesses too. It's not like she's
Speaker 2: an angel and there are devils. But you know it's
Speaker 2: everybody's it's it's everybody's got a secret in this town. Okay,
Speaker 2: I can't stop watching it.
Speaker 3: Is this your new guilty pleasure?
Speaker 2: That's a very guilty pleasure. But people are mad about this.
Speaker 2: This is the way Hollywood, you know, treats Americans. What's
Speaker 2: the name of the show again, The Hunter Wise starring
Speaker 2: Britney Snow. Okay, I mean people, you know, if if
Speaker 2: you're a Texan and you turn this on to you go,
Speaker 2: oh this is how we are, you know, you'd be offended.
Speaker 2: Nothing really offends me, so you know, I'm watching it.
Speaker 2: But there is a new movement in Hollywood Sam to
Speaker 2: combat this and that Hollywood has an evolving landscape, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about that for the next several
Speaker 2: segments because it's affecting the business end of Hollywood as well.
Speaker 2: Conservative figures, Okay, conservatives aiming to dramatically shift the entertainment
Speaker 2: industry's traditionally liberal leanings have got a new production company
Speaker 2: together called Founders Films. Now, this happens all the time.
Speaker 2: People go, hey, I got a rich guy start a
Speaker 2: production company. He's conservative, aren't There are more positive messages
Speaker 2: out there, you know, it's happened before. But this one
Speaker 2: is sponsored or some of the investors are. Well, if
Speaker 2: it's Founders, I'm going to say it's Peter tel because
Speaker 2: Peter Teel has a company called the Founder's Fund. I
Speaker 2: think I think that's what his fund is. And he's
Speaker 2: a conservative and he's okay, you know, so he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not maybe he's he's uber socially liberal.
Speaker 3: Uber billionaire. Yeah, I think that overrides everything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's as they say, gay from space.
Speaker 3: Satellite satellite.
Speaker 2: So the Founders Films also linked to the Scilla Con
Speaker 2: Valley data giant Pallinteer. Are you familiar with them?
Speaker 3: Very familiar?
Speaker 2: People are afraid of them, Like that's if there was
Speaker 2: a movie about that. What could happen about with A
Speaker 2: and I? If AI with AI? If it went wrong,
Speaker 2: Pallentteer would be the death the death Star, right, yep? Okay, people,
Speaker 2: So they're launching, they're they're putting money into this, and
Speaker 2: they have a lot of money and they are seeking
Speaker 2: other investors for projects. The champion American exceptionalism and name
Speaker 2: American enemies. I like that part. Why can't we name
Speaker 2: our enemies and films? And why can't we?
Speaker 3: That's a wonderful question. Why haven't we?
Speaker 2: Why they all just nebulous Eastern European cabal. That's that's
Speaker 2: committing all the crimes.
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's a historical you know, like a
Speaker 3: film that has a history has it, you know, like
Speaker 3: a time's If it's a time piece, it would be
Speaker 3: something like you know like Indiana Jones and the Temple
Speaker 3: of Doom. Then you have a stated enemy.
Speaker 2: Then not but that movie. Yeah, but any movie where
Speaker 2: the Nazis of the enemy is one thing. But what
Speaker 2: if the enemy is.
Speaker 3: Let's say Texans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, if they're I mean, you know, they keep
Speaker 2: going back to the Nazis, And a lot of it
Speaker 2: is because their uniforms were so badass, and so you know,
Speaker 2: you take the evil uh persona and the badass uniform
Speaker 2: and you got that's show business right there. That's how
Speaker 2: you make That's how you put butts in the seats.
Speaker 2: So naming American enemies. America's enemies, I guess right now
Speaker 2: would be China, Like, let's make a movie about how
Speaker 2: evil China is.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Normally hollywoods like to do that because they want their
Speaker 2: movie distributed in China. But these people are gonna name
Speaker 2: their enemies, okay, so they want more patriotic narratives. Some
Speaker 2: proposed films is in a new adaptation of Ain Rand's
Speaker 2: Atlast Shrugged. Have you read that book, Sam, Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I can't imagine a more boring film to make.
Speaker 2: It's hard because the book is so long to make
Speaker 2: a good one. There was one made. I worked on
Speaker 2: one that didn't get made with already had the rights
Speaker 2: to that. He got it right from ain Rand. He
Speaker 2: dazzled her and he got the rights, and then he
Speaker 2: died a couple of years ago. So now it's floating
Speaker 2: around and so I guess these guys are going to
Speaker 2: get it, and then they want to add and ain
Speaker 2: Rand is Attlas Shrugged is about like, you know, big
Speaker 2: giant business people saying what's wrong with being big giant
Speaker 2: business people? And the government and the regulations are the enemy.
Speaker 2: So that sounds like a conservative movie that I mean
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have to be one movie, could be
Speaker 2: part two, two part movie, or a six part series
Speaker 2: or a twelve part series. And then they want to
Speaker 2: make one about the nine to eleven World Trade Center evacuation.
Speaker 2: They want to make a spy series about China's global
Speaker 2: power plans. Now I saw your eyes roll just now, Sam.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not so much eye rolling. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: see like you're visualizing. Yeah, I'm trying to picture that.
Speaker 3: I think that. I mean, there's always a movie out
Speaker 3: there that set you know, like if you need to
Speaker 3: have an international spy film, there's always going to be
Speaker 3: some kind of like middle of the road kind of
Speaker 3: looking character that you can say this person is now
Speaker 3: like he's taken over his own island.
Speaker 2: And Eastern Eastern Europeans yea favorites.
Speaker 3: You usually Eastern Europeans or Latin Americans or Middle Easterners
Speaker 3: or whatever. And now it's like, okay, well let's actually
Speaker 3: call out countries. And it just accelerates a lot of
Speaker 3: notionalism that either way in film, it's like okay, if
Speaker 3: we're going to go hard left or hard right, either way,
Speaker 3: we're going to be alienating a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't know if you know about how
Speaker 2: the movies used to be in this in this country, Sam,
Speaker 2: They were very patriotic.
Speaker 3: Long time ago.
Speaker 2: And this push is seen by some as a punch
Speaker 2: in the face for woke Hollywood. It builds on growing
Speaker 2: conservative criticism that studios have become too politically progressive, impacting
Speaker 2: box office performance. For example, the mockumentary I Am Racist.
Speaker 2: Do you remember this one?
Speaker 3: I don't remember that one costs.
Speaker 2: Three million to make in it made twelve million at
Speaker 2: the box office, and it was about a guy just
Speaker 2: It was a documentary walking around exploring racism from a
Speaker 2: conservative point of view. And I remember that made a
Speaker 2: lot of money. But to me, I didn't go see
Speaker 2: it because it seemed like a homework or something like that.
Speaker 2: The biopic Reagan did thirty million. I saw that. One's
Speaker 2: Christian cinema. We all know that's doing well. They make
Speaker 2: a lot of money on those. Donald Trump has sent
Speaker 2: Melt Gibson and Sylvester Stallone and John Voight to be
Speaker 2: ambassadors of the government. So this is a new direction
Speaker 2: for Hollywood. And then when we come back, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about how this might be impacting the Paramount
Speaker 2: Sky Dance merger, and it might be connected to the
Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert firing. Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood, Joe Escalante
Speaker 2: Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank. This
Speaker 2: is two hours of the business end of show business.
Speaker 2: We're an hour number two now, and we were talking
Speaker 2: in the last hour about the movement in Hollywood that
Speaker 2: is going to try to make conservative content. And these
Speaker 2: are people that are just sick of it. They're sick
Speaker 2: of it. Want to see any more woke culture in
Speaker 2: their movies, and they want to know what happened to
Speaker 2: a day when you know, movies were had it seemed
Speaker 2: like they all had a patriotic message and there was
Speaker 2: some good old fashioned censorship afoot. But people know, I
Speaker 2: think people know that you can't make a movie that is,
Speaker 2: you know, too patriotic or jingoistic or nationalistic because the
Speaker 2: Hollywood executives don't like it. So and that's where the
Speaker 2: money is.
Speaker 3: Well, and well that's where the money in the United
Speaker 3: States might be. But they're looking possibly at the foreign
Speaker 3: numbers also.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you're but that's what they're all. They're
Speaker 2: looking at the foreign numbers right now. The guy, the
Speaker 2: people that control Hollywood, they're looking at it. So someone's
Speaker 2: coming in now and according to this new trend that
Speaker 2: is being reported on. They're like, well, why do we
Speaker 2: have to do that, because when you have to make
Speaker 2: a movie for China, you have to jump through these hoops.
Speaker 2: And why can't we make a movie that China hates?
Speaker 2: Why can't we make a movie that China bands.
Speaker 3: We've done that.
Speaker 2: It's a good old fashioned but we've done that. Okay,
Speaker 2: Well I'm not here. I mean, this is just this
Speaker 2: is a This is a movement. Sam. If you if
Speaker 2: you want to rail against the movement, you can get
Speaker 2: on your Twitter account and tell these people that we've
Speaker 2: already done it and to just you know, go back
Speaker 2: where they came from and not try to do this.
Speaker 2: You probably save them a lot of money because movies
Speaker 2: are very expensive and most people lose money when they're
Speaker 2: making them. So anyway, this is what. This is a movement.
Speaker 2: And then people are emboldened now because of a few
Speaker 2: things that are going on. But let's kind of go.
Speaker 3: To the Maverick was banned in China unofficially because of
Speaker 3: Maverick wearing having a Taiwanese flag on him.
Speaker 2: What's the old TV the Top Gun movie? Oh, the
Speaker 2: Top Gun movie that was very successful one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a very good movie. There's a bunch
Speaker 3: of movies that we produce, movies that are pretty often
Speaker 3: banned by China for one reason or another. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean it's okay if we do that. Now, if that's
Speaker 3: what their goal is is to to call out enemies
Speaker 3: and do more patriotic stuff, then that's there's movies for
Speaker 3: people who are into those kind of movies.
Speaker 2: Yes, but they they're going to make those. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: they will. You know, it's just a movement. It happens,
Speaker 2: and I think there right now. It happens all the time.
Speaker 2: I mean there's always this movement like we got to
Speaker 2: make more family friendly movies. Okay, But right now they're
Speaker 2: emboldened because a lot of people see that, well that
Speaker 2: you see the ratings of conservative projects News or whatever
Speaker 2: versus the establishment the lefty networks, and people are in bolded.
Speaker 2: They say, well, Fox is making a ton of money,
Speaker 2: CBS is losing their ass. Maybe now is the time,
Speaker 2: maybe we can convince people to put their money into
Speaker 2: this project. Ours. I think about Fox News, though they
Speaker 2: get affiliate fees from all their cable that that CBS
Speaker 2: doesn't get. But CBS is is a problem. I mean
Speaker 2: they do have a problem because of this the nature
Speaker 2: of the business that they're in. They have got a
Speaker 2: bunch of cable channels and they have CBS, which we
Speaker 2: now know that they were spent. They were losing forty
Speaker 2: million a year on the Colbert Show, and they don't
Speaker 2: want to do it anymore. A new guy is come
Speaker 2: to town, David Ellison, and he's buying CBS, and right
Speaker 2: after the he fires Cole Well he doesn't own it
Speaker 2: yet but now he does. But before you, before he
Speaker 2: owned it, Colbert was fired, so people think, like, did
Speaker 2: he was he trying to get rid of it? Did
Speaker 2: he say you got to fire that guy. I don't
Speaker 2: want to lose forty million dollars on a talk show.
Speaker 2: I don't care what he's saying, what kind of political
Speaker 2: stuff he's saying. There's a lot of people that believe
Speaker 2: if Colbert, I'm not really one of them, if Colbert
Speaker 2: was middle of the road that the show would be profitable.
Speaker 2: I would say, you would lose some people and you
Speaker 2: would gain some people. Ah, but there but there's no
Speaker 2: reason to lose money on a guy that is railing
Speaker 2: against half the country all night. I mean you you,
Speaker 2: there's no reason to lose money if he makes money,
Speaker 2: So yeah, let him do it. If he loses money,
Speaker 2: you got to yank.
Speaker 3: Him now across the board on all of the late
Speaker 3: night formats. How who is anybody making money?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Is a gutfill well that I don't view that as
Speaker 3: late night format. That's the cable news network that has
Speaker 3: the already established highest rated like viewers of all of
Speaker 3: the cable news networks and everything like that. His established,
Speaker 3: His base was already established with or without him. It's
Speaker 3: it's are there any profitable like normal what we would
Speaker 3: call consider traditional non cable news networks that have a
Speaker 3: late night format that are profitable. Probably not, because that's
Speaker 3: the thing is that cable is gonna be way different
Speaker 3: of a thing because you can say more, do more,
Speaker 3: get away with a little bit more. But also it's
Speaker 3: when you already have the highest rated channel in the game,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have that already like there, and what a.
Speaker 2: Lot of that? Why isn't CBS the highest rated channel.
Speaker 2: It's free in every it's free in every home in America.
Speaker 3: It's because content wise, they're not putting out the hits
Speaker 3: that the audience wants to hear the same way that
Speaker 3: say Fox News does with their audience. They say the
Speaker 3: things that the audience wants to hear, and people are
Speaker 3: going to tune in to have their biases confirmed. That's
Speaker 3: how every like. That's what you think.
Speaker 2: You're missing the point. I think you're missing the point.
Speaker 2: You're missing the point. The point is that these people
Speaker 2: on CBS and NBC and ABC are one dimensional. We
Speaker 2: hate the president and we are lefties. Okay, So why
Speaker 2: would you let Why would you lose money? Why would
Speaker 2: you lose money? Why would you lose money with somebody
Speaker 2: who's sitting there and he's not even addressing the whole country,
Speaker 2: he's only addressing half the country, and he's losing money,
Speaker 2: so he's got to go.
Speaker 3: It's just the timing of it all comes off as
Speaker 3: a bit suspicious.
Speaker 2: It looks like it looks like a bribe. That's it
Speaker 2: looks like, and they want to investigate it, and they will.
Speaker 3: And we'll see what the outcome of it is. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, it leads also to the thing
Speaker 3: that we were alluding to earlier. South Park and their
Speaker 3: part in all of this because Paramount Plus had a
Speaker 3: big deal go through with them and they came out
Speaker 3: with guns blazing against Trump.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they and they will come out guns blazing
Speaker 2: against both sides. That's what they do. So that's another thing.
Speaker 2: If that shows lose money, it's a maybe it's a
Speaker 2: loss leader because it's you've got to have it otherwise
Speaker 2: your enemies will have it.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: But they're making money. I think they're profitable. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you know, it's not. It doesn't matter. If
Speaker 2: they're losing money, let them. It's a lost leader. And
Speaker 2: they're not alienating half the country. Sure they're there. So
Speaker 2: that's an example of how you can criticize the president
Speaker 2: and how you can even criticize your bosses if you
Speaker 2: do it well. Colbert didn't do it well and it
Speaker 2: was too it was it was boring and one dimensional. Uh,
Speaker 2: when compared to South Park. South Park is just you know,
Speaker 2: they show you how to do it and this is
Speaker 2: how it's and the people at CBS can't can't and
Speaker 2: the networks can't do it. They can't do it at
Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel and they can't do it at Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 2: So people think those those companies are next. Uh and
Speaker 2: if they're losing money, okay, so then you have like
Speaker 2: this guy is is already they've already paid, Uh, already
Speaker 2: gone after sixty minutes. Sixty minutes had to pay because
Speaker 2: they were biased and the Colbert had to go. This
Speaker 2: new guy, David Ellison is hiring a conservatives to run
Speaker 2: the news division or middle of the road centrist people.
Speaker 2: So people are in Bold and they say, well, maybe
Speaker 2: it's going to change, and some people say that David
Speaker 2: Ellison will. What he's doing, really he's buying. He owns
Speaker 2: this company called sky Dance and they make like James
Speaker 2: Bond or Mission Impossible at one of those things. What's
Speaker 2: a big famous thing they make?
Speaker 3: They make movies British company.
Speaker 2: No, no, no. David Ellison is the guy whose dad
Speaker 2: owns Oracle.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2: So his dad gave him some money and he did
Speaker 2: really well with it and he made hit movies and
Speaker 2: now he has enough money to buy CBS and Paramount.
Speaker 2: All he wants is a studio, Paramount the studio. Now
Speaker 2: he's going to be Paramount the studio, the studio of
Speaker 2: the Godfather and other legendary films. Now he's gonna own that.
Speaker 2: Now he's happy, but he owns all these other parts
Speaker 2: that kind of don't make money. So he's going to
Speaker 2: sell CBS. But to sell CBS, do you want it
Speaker 2: to be? Hey, this is this cool network for sale
Speaker 2: that gets sued by Trump for doing questionable electional election
Speaker 2: interference with Kamala Harrison an interview. And then they have
Speaker 2: this Colbert thing that loses forty million a year because
Speaker 2: they hate Donald Trump, And do you want to buy it?
Speaker 2: Or when you're selling it, would you like to buy
Speaker 2: this cool network doesn't have Colbert has a slot there
Speaker 2: that you, the buyer, can do whatever you want with
Speaker 2: it doesn't Sixty minutes has been spanked and they're not
Speaker 2: going to do that anymore. And they and you might
Speaker 2: be able to create another Fox News, but a network
Speaker 2: Fox News, and that might be Look what Fox News
Speaker 2: rakes in every year. Look at the billions you could
Speaker 2: have this.
Speaker 3: It's not so instead of just going middle of the road,
Speaker 3: go hard right.
Speaker 2: I think people are too afraid to go hard right.
Speaker 2: But they're gonna go but they're at least gonna shake
Speaker 2: shake off the the twenty four a day railing against
Speaker 2: twenty five ers, a day of railing against Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Just forget about Donald Trump. Make content. Have a comedian
Speaker 2: that comes up like Johnny Carson used to and tell
Speaker 2: jokes and interview stars, and then you might be able
Speaker 2: to sell that when and it's a easier sell than
Speaker 2: the old CBS.
Speaker 3: You're not going to replace Carson. You can't. There's nobody
Speaker 3: that's come close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but somebody who wants to own it is gonna
Speaker 2: try to give it a try and think they can
Speaker 2: do it. So that's that's what people are saying that
Speaker 2: that's what this guy's doing. And then he's gonna take
Speaker 2: the stations and sell them to people who want stations.
Speaker 2: I think the stations and the network go together. You
Speaker 2: own all these stations around the country, people like Sinclair
Speaker 2: or companies that like to buy stations on a bunch station,
Speaker 2: you're going to sell those off. He's going to sell
Speaker 2: off the cable channels, the MTV, VH one, country Music Television,
Speaker 2: all the ones that they own, They're going to sell
Speaker 2: those off. Time, maybe Discovery, that spin off that owns
Speaker 2: their cable channels. He's going to sell off all these parts,
Speaker 2: and then he's just gonna own a paaramount and he's
Speaker 2: to have a studio and he's gonna be happy he's
Speaker 2: and it's not gonna be that profitable for him, if
Speaker 2: at all, But he doesn't need any money because he's
Speaker 2: David Ellison and he has so many billions. He can
Speaker 2: never spend it all, but will have his network or
Speaker 2: his his studio, which he wants. Let's take a break
Speaker 2: and check the traffic and we'll come back with more
Speaker 2: of this, you know, genius programming. Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood,
Speaker 2: the Business end of Hollywood Business, Show Business, every Sunday
Speaker 2: from five to seven right here on k EIB eleven
Speaker 2: fifty on your AM dial. We're talking about David Ellison
Speaker 2: buying Paramount Skydance buying Paramount and kind of taking it
Speaker 2: apart and selling it, which is what people think he's
Speaker 2: going to do, and he's and when he sells all
Speaker 2: that stuff, it still won't be You're not gonna get
Speaker 2: his money back for a long time. People usually don't
Speaker 2: get money back on projects like this until they sell
Speaker 2: him again. Once he consolidates everything and has this Paramount thing,
Speaker 2: it comes up with a couple hits. Then you got
Speaker 2: something you got to going concern. He's going to expand
Speaker 2: the CBS Paramount Studios. Right now, Paramount has that big
Speaker 2: lot on Melrose and he wants that and he believes
Speaker 2: that's a business. And then he's going to expand the
Speaker 2: CBS lot, the CBS lot on Radford and Ventura out
Speaker 2: in the valley. That's a piece of history too. I
Speaker 2: mean you go down there, there's like Twilight Zone stuff
Speaker 2: still there and leave it to beaver House. And this
Speaker 2: is what he wants. Yeah, and he wants it, he
Speaker 2: shall take it.
Speaker 3: So he basically wants to take over Paramount entirely, and
Speaker 3: the rest of the parts that he got in the
Speaker 3: deal he gets to disassemble and sell for whatever scrap
Speaker 3: that he feels like he can get.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, and he makes you know, sky Dunce they make,
Speaker 2: they make TV shows, they make big budget movies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy's this guy's made a ton of money.
Speaker 3: You want to know something I found out a very
Speaker 3: mission impossible Yeah, no, I found out a very interesting
Speaker 3: top Gun. I see, that's the thing that I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Top Gun three D banned in China. All the all
Speaker 3: of those movies here's a fun fact. Every Brad Pitt
Speaker 3: movie is banned in China, every single one of them,
Speaker 3: because because he did the movie seven years in Tibet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's banned.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want him there. He's from Entry, and
Speaker 3: none of his movies are coming here.
Speaker 2: Very few movies get approved over there in China anymore.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so this is what the guy's gonna do.
Speaker 2: But also he looks like a guy who doesn't have
Speaker 2: a lefty agenda because mission impossible. You know, that's pure action.
Speaker 2: Top gun is patriotism. So and he's made so much
Speaker 2: money on that top gun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that brings us to the Colbet firing. Got a
Speaker 2: little bit more to say on the Colbert firing. The
Speaker 2: Colbear firing. Okay, he loses forty million years, so okay,
Speaker 2: he's got to go. Is it a bribe? I mean
Speaker 2: it's like, did did Donald Trump say get rid of
Speaker 2: this guy and I will approve this merger? Or did
Speaker 2: David Ellison say get rid of this guy? Because I'm
Speaker 2: not going to have him losing money in my uh
Speaker 2: my studio. I'm I'm not.
Speaker 3: Gonna do a little look a little of column A
Speaker 3: and a little columnbe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, David, I mean, Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: just like going He's he's out for revenge right now, Oh,
Speaker 2: he seems to be. He's like, I'm going to punish
Speaker 2: everybody who tried to put me in jail. And let's
Speaker 2: be honest, they tried to put him in jail. They
Speaker 2: indicted a president. Never happened before, and so he's mad.
Speaker 2: And they went through his wife's underwear drawer. So if
Speaker 2: someone goes through my wife's underwear drawer, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: mad and I'm coming after him. But is it so?
Speaker 2: Is it politically motivated? It might be, but you know,
Speaker 2: everybody's attacking everybody, and everybody's suing everybody, So what are
Speaker 2: you gonna do? So I think we're done with Colbert,
Speaker 2: just like he's gone and there's people marching around going
Speaker 2: save Colbert and all that stuff. He'll land somewhere and
Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing that happened usually happen
Speaker 2: to these people. I think he makes fifteen million a year.
Speaker 2: He could get on a podcast deal and make forty
Speaker 2: million year. He could just can compete with Rogan, compete
Speaker 2: with Rogan and make a hundred million a year. Yeah, so,
Speaker 2: you know, good for him. He doesn't care.
Speaker 3: Literally, the same thing happened to Tucker Carlson after.
Speaker 2: The whole debacle was fired.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they let him go.
Speaker 2: Now he owns his own empire.
Speaker 3: And everybody was saying it was in the name of
Speaker 3: the lawsuit that was carried out back then though, with
Speaker 3: a seven hundred million dollar laws suit with the voting
Speaker 3: booth people. That's the thing is that this is the
Speaker 3: kind of stuff that tends to happen. Whenever you see
Speaker 3: business deals trying to go through or big money being
Speaker 3: lost or moved around. A lot of times the people
Speaker 3: who are on board, you're the people in charge, are
Speaker 3: going to be saying, for this deal to go through,
Speaker 3: this is the thing that needs to happen. We don't
Speaker 3: like that person or that person. That show might be
Speaker 3: burning forty million dollars and it's not getting anything in return.
Speaker 3: And Colbert quite frankly, could do better in a different
Speaker 3: in a different format.
Speaker 2: He goes into niche programming and that's that's he'll make money,
Speaker 2: but he'll be trapped. He'll be trying.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about the money. He's gonna make it.
Speaker 3: Whatever money he makes he's gonna be fine. It's the
Speaker 3: audience and the impact. I think he's he could have
Speaker 3: a bigger audience impact doing his own show on on
Speaker 3: a YouTube ish format or whatever anything like that. That's
Speaker 3: it's just hard.
Speaker 2: He could end up on serious like Howard Stern and
Speaker 2: no one would ever talk about him ever again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the thing. It's you saw how a
Speaker 3: good model of that is the is what happened with
Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson because he had the biggest show on the
Speaker 3: biggest channel and then that that format got pulled and
Speaker 3: he rebuilt it himself on a completely different format. And
Speaker 3: he's doing pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems to be doing great, and he's he's
Speaker 2: actually part of the national conversation and he's changing people's
Speaker 2: views on important political you know, things like whether it's
Speaker 2: Jeff three Epstein or Israel versus the Palestinians. He's really
Speaker 2: I've noticed. I'm like, why, oh, guy's blowing my mind here.
Speaker 2: I never thought of this, you know, like, uh, blowing
Speaker 2: my mind. Yeah. So, and he's selling prep food, Prepper
Speaker 2: food make a lot of money selling prepper food and
Speaker 2: gun saves.
Speaker 3: It's either like gun saves, prepper food, vitamins whatever.
Speaker 2: Man, if people are gonna get their own smokeless tobacco,
Speaker 2: so chewing tobacco. Yeah, like pouches like the Zen. He's
Speaker 2: got one that's like compete, competing with the Zen pouch.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't do that either. So I don't
Speaker 2: have any vices. I only have one vice. It's I
Speaker 2: am just too good at radio. So uh, I tend
Speaker 2: to you know, it just blows my head kai sky high.
Speaker 3: That's about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got a couple of stories. We're not gonna
Speaker 2: get to him just yet, but I'm gonna tease him
Speaker 2: to you right now. Cardi B in a little bit
Speaker 2: of trouble, and if you go to YouTube and look
Speaker 2: up Cardi b microphone, you'll see the video that we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about in the next segment. And Jimmie
Speaker 2: Lee Curtis is opening up about agism in Hollywood and
Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting thing to say, interesting things to
Speaker 2: say because her father was Tony Curtis and her mother
Speaker 2: was Vivian Lee or some starlet. Okay, let's take a break,
Speaker 2: come back, Joe's Goolante live from Hollywood, all right, So
Speaker 2: Jamie Lee Curtis, Yeah, the daughter. I didn't really contemplated this,
Speaker 2: the daughter of Tony Curtis and Janet Lee. And I
Speaker 2: said vivianly before, because what do I know? But Janet
Speaker 2: Lee from Psycho, she's the woman in the shower. Yeah,
Speaker 2: from Psycho.
Speaker 3: Vivian Lee wasn't gone with the Wind?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Orson Wells's Touch of Evil, which is a great movie.
Speaker 2: And then Tony.
Speaker 3: Kurr This of course is Tony Curtis.
Speaker 2: Some like it hot and things like that, but she
Speaker 2: uh agism, this is what it is. One point I
Speaker 2: try to hammer in this show I've been doing for
Speaker 2: so many years about Hollywood is that you can have
Speaker 2: Hollywood dreams. But if you're having Hollywood dreams as like
Speaker 2: an actor or someone in front of the camera, I
Speaker 2: just think it's too many of them die alone, not
Speaker 2: surrounded by their friends, because and your whole life is
Speaker 2: chasing this beauty. And every time you leave your house,
Speaker 2: your everybody who sees you says, oh God, looks like crap,
Speaker 2: and you and and then so you're fighting you're fighting
Speaker 2: that and mentally I don't think I could I could
Speaker 2: take it. You know, every time you leave, people see
Speaker 2: you in the grocery store to go, oh, I saw
Speaker 2: sam Zia and you should see what he looks like
Speaker 2: in person. He's just hideous.
Speaker 3: And he's fat, radio faced.
Speaker 2: So you so you get more plastic surgery because you
Speaker 2: think that you've got to combat that, and you justify
Speaker 2: and say, well, nobody knows what I go through. I
Speaker 2: have to go outside and people look at me and
Speaker 2: they just look at say ooh, look what he looks like.
Speaker 2: Look what she looks like. So I need to fix
Speaker 2: my face. And then you ruin your face, and then
Speaker 2: you you don't have real friends, so you you die
Speaker 2: alone in some rest home for for Starlits not in
Speaker 2: every case, but in so Jamie Lee Curtis was talking
Speaker 2: about agism and she was like, you know, she's going
Speaker 2: gangbusters right now, but she's she's been prepping to get
Speaker 2: out and to retire of the industry because she witnessed
Speaker 2: her parents, Genetly and Tony Curtis, being rejected by the
Speaker 2: industry as they age. I mean, she described watching their
Speaker 2: incredible success slowly erode to the point where it was
Speaker 2: on yeah, which she found very painful. So her goal
Speaker 2: is to leave the party before she's no longer invited.
Speaker 3: Well, she had a roadmap from her parents, like they
Speaker 3: handed her roadmap on how to gracefully walk away and
Speaker 3: not like not watch all of your emotions get shredded
Speaker 3: as your relevance goes.
Speaker 2: She's gotta, she's gotta, she's got a chance. Okay, now
Speaker 2: let's go to someone who I probably will not learn
Speaker 2: any of these lessons is Cardi B. Cardi B is
Speaker 2: delightful and entertaining, but she's dumb as a bucket of hair.
Speaker 2: She was on stage and I guess at some point
Speaker 2: in the show, she's doing this like daytime show at
Speaker 2: Drey's Beach Club like Las Vegas, and she's singing on
Speaker 2: stage and people are like, you know, there's no real barricade, really,
Speaker 2: they're just kind of all around her, and I guess
Speaker 2: she said, hey, I'm really hot, you know, sprinkle me
Speaker 2: with water or someone throws some water up here or something.
Speaker 2: So someone that's the according to the report, somebody like
Speaker 2: splashed her with water from a cup and it was
Speaker 2: a really good shot, Like she came right down to
Speaker 2: the stage and someone just you know, went you just
Speaker 2: got her with the water right in her face, and
Speaker 2: she looked at it and like, how dare you and
Speaker 2: just just tossed, didn't toss just through with intent to
Speaker 2: injure her microphone at the person.
Speaker 3: She intended to injure her microphone or the person the
Speaker 3: person Okay, yes, you need to make that clear.
Speaker 2: Yes, she threw the microphone right at the person who
Speaker 2: is named Jane Doe. In the civil suit, she says
Speaker 2: she was intentionally struck during the performance. And this is
Speaker 2: July of twenty twenty three, so I guess it took
Speaker 2: some time to think about what to do and find
Speaker 2: the right lawyer. And it was sudden and forceful. The
Speaker 2: microphone directly hit her, causing physic physical injury, according to
Speaker 2: the complaint. The lawsuit also claims Cardib's action was excessive
Speaker 2: and disproportionate to the water being tossed on her, and
Speaker 2: it caused public humiliation. It went viral. The microphone was
Speaker 2: later sold sam for ninety nine thousand dollars at an
Speaker 2: auction by who Auctioneers.
Speaker 3: Was it her that put it up or sale like
Speaker 3: it had her? Did she pick it up?
Speaker 2: I don't have this info. Okay, So someone might have
Speaker 2: grabbed it, you know, and not given it back. But
Speaker 2: the guys that you know, the security were coming out,
Speaker 2: and I mean usually you can get something like that
Speaker 2: out of the audience, people say, hey, give me the mic.
Speaker 2: But someone got ahold of it and sold it one.
Speaker 3: Hundred thousand bucks. Who would want to buy a mic
Speaker 3: a broken microphone for one hundred thousand box. I mean
Speaker 3: they got they won't have money to toss around. I know,
Speaker 3: it's nothing.
Speaker 2: It's it's for someone who has everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you know.
Speaker 2: So, Uh, what do you think is gonna happen to her?
Speaker 3: It's a good question.
Speaker 2: Uh, that person's going to get a settlement. Yeah, probably
Speaker 2: won't go to trial because she's gonna get really mad
Speaker 2: for a long time. And then when then when she
Speaker 2: finds out what she has to do to go to trial,
Speaker 2: and then they're gonna depose her and they're gonna ask
Speaker 2: all these personal questions, what did you have that day?
Speaker 2: Did you drink that day? Did you you know? Do
Speaker 2: you ever drink? Do you ever take drugs? Isn't it?
Speaker 2: And then you know, any trouble that she's had the
Speaker 2: law in the past is gonna be resurrected, and pretty
Speaker 2: sure she's gonna go how much is this you know?
Speaker 2: What want?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, writer a check.
Speaker 2: Just cut it and run, man, and no one's gonna
Speaker 2: falter for that. But so stupid you just take a
Speaker 2: microphone and just throw it at someone's face when when
Speaker 2: you're when there's cameras everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and Cardi B from her side, she's saying
Speaker 3: that the lawsuit is a shakedown attempt.
Speaker 2: Of course it is. But how do you Here's how
Speaker 2: you perform you This is how you avoid shakedown attempts.
Speaker 3: Don't don't Joe Montana microphones at fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll tell you something about insurance in the
Speaker 2: in the music world. Is you can buy insurance for
Speaker 2: things thrown from the stage. Oh and my band has that,
Speaker 2: really insurance for stuff thrown from the stage. Just things
Speaker 2: get thrown from the stage. Does that include people, drumsticks, people, anything?
Speaker 3: Oh cool?
Speaker 2: And it happens all the time and people get injured.
Speaker 2: So you you pay to be protected from that. Smart
Speaker 2: And speaking of rock and roll, it is interesting, Uh,
Speaker 2: like a few years ago at Coachella there was like
Speaker 2: not one guitar when people are saying and now rock
Speaker 2: and roll is making a comeback.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 2: A decade after Gene Simmons of Kiss declared rock murdered Murdered.
Speaker 2: It is becoming the fastest growing genre in the US.
Speaker 2: The resurgence is fueled by both exciting new artists and
Speaker 2: the unexpected virility virality of legacy acts on platforms like
Speaker 2: TikTok leading the charger bands like Sweden's Ghost and Britain's
Speaker 2: Sleep Token, both of whom topped the Billboard two hundred
Speaker 2: album chart in May. Sleep Tokens album Even in Arcadia,
Speaker 2: broke records for most streaming hard rock album in a
Speaker 2: single week. On the indie side, wet Leg Familiar with
Speaker 2: What I Think You Would Like. Wet Leg is also
Speaker 2: making waves with their latest album, Moisturizer, hitting number one
Speaker 2: in the UK.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, wet Leg, Moisturizer, that's the.
Speaker 2: And what Leg is like a these girls and they're
Speaker 2: just you know, provocative and uh, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: hunting melodies and if you see them in the tiny desk.
Speaker 3: Their next album is going to be Hydrader.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not just new bands either, sam older rock
Speaker 2: acts are finding a new life. Creed's hits are surprisingly
Speaker 2: popular on TikTok. The bands like System of Down in
Speaker 2: Deaf Tones are are very you know, are filling arenas.
Speaker 2: Now my Chemical Romance is playing tonight or yes tonight
Speaker 2: last night at Dodger Stadium, my Chemical Romance. Put your
Speaker 2: wrap your head around that, like warp to her, No thanks,
Speaker 2: We're headlining Dodger Stadium for two nights.
Speaker 3: That's kind of crazy. Consider it really shows the impact
Speaker 3: of these newer forms, of these new formats like TikTok.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody could predict when TikTok became start
Speaker 3: to really come into its own, the impact that I
Speaker 3: would have on the music industry, and not just like
Speaker 3: new artists putting out music, but also old artists and
Speaker 3: keeping older songs alive. Yeah. Really, it shows just how
Speaker 3: quickly evolving show business, media, film, music, all of it
Speaker 3: is at this point.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then rock music, which people thought was dead,
Speaker 2: is now like kids are just saying, hey, look at
Speaker 2: these guitars and bands were like, like, what is a band?
Speaker 2: I remember like five ten years ago, my friend's kids
Speaker 2: were like, why what is a band? Why would someone
Speaker 2: have a band. Why don't you just go on YouTube
Speaker 2: and be Justin Bieber or make something and something? And
Speaker 2: then all the music they like is somebody featuring somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is this other person featuring this other person. There's
Speaker 2: no bands, but now the bands are. The bands are back,
Speaker 2: and there's many guitars at Coachella.
Speaker 3: Now that's a I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 2: You think you think you're grateful.
Speaker 3: I appreciate run, but Sam, I appreciate live music, and
Speaker 3: I'm glad that it's still you know, filling huge venues
Speaker 3: and not just like spots like the Baked Potato you
Speaker 3: know what and which, And I'm not knocking the baked potato.
Speaker 3: It's an amazing spot and the potatoes are amazing.
Speaker 2: Baked potatoes legendary. Yeah, but you know where people are
Speaker 2: not going, according to all these stories, Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: I've been seeing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's all there's a campaign. It's like it's
Speaker 2: in the zeitgeist. Las Vegas is too expensive and they
Speaker 2: just kind of disrespect the customer and like, you know,
Speaker 2: thirty twenty three dollars bottles of water at certain hotels.
Speaker 3: I remember when I first turned twenty one, the tables
Speaker 3: for blackjack, we're ten dollars tables and you can find
Speaker 3: five dollar tables. Now it's you know, you at the
Speaker 3: minimum twenty five and you're not going to find anything lower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the people are people have had enough, which
Speaker 2: is not great for me because I've got Sublime and
Speaker 2: Pennywise and the Vandals playing and a Sublime takeover of
Speaker 2: Las Vegas at the MGM and the t Mobile Arena
Speaker 2: coming up August fifteenth and sixteenth. This is a notification
Speaker 2: to you people that we need you to buy tickets
Speaker 2: and if you want to see me do another tour
Speaker 2: of the Punk Rock Museum, I'll be doing them on
Speaker 2: August Saturday, August sixteenth, I will be doing tours at
Speaker 2: the Punk Rock Museum, where Fat Mic has proclaimed me
Speaker 2: the best tour guide that the museum has excellent. And
Speaker 2: then the Vandals will play on Friday night and Sublime
Speaker 2: will play, Pennywise will play on fifteenth and sixteenth, And
Speaker 2: it's gotta be fun because you're gonna be You're gonna
Speaker 2: be in our Sublime bubble and you don't have to
Speaker 2: be insulted by twenty three dollar bottles of water because
Speaker 2: we're gonna give away all kinds of fun stuff for free.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and come back with
Speaker 2: our final segment on Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood.
Speaker 4: Joe Ascalante, here's my lawyer.
Speaker 2: All right, let's try to get through the multitude of
Speaker 2: stories I have, Sam, And the little time that we
Speaker 2: have we got is when we're talking about earlier the
Speaker 2: how the media is evolving. E News is calling it quits.
Speaker 2: H E News was something that was on every night
Speaker 2: at eleven on the E Channel, and and they just like,
Speaker 2: you know, want nobody wants to watch the news at eleven.
Speaker 2: People want to just keep checking their phones all day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: nobody's making an appointment time to watch entertainment news.
Speaker 3: I get the feeling that's what we're slowly going to
Speaker 3: start seeing with network and TV news just in general,
Speaker 3: because everybody's getting informed on their phones faster, and the
Speaker 3: people who rely on traditional news sources, like you know,
Speaker 3: the networks and Fox News, we're getting old.
Speaker 2: Well. I think that's why Fox News does so well,
Speaker 2: because there's their audience can't operate these these apps, and
Speaker 2: they have personalities that people like people like Greg Gutfield,
Speaker 2: they like Jesse Waters, and they want to see what
Speaker 2: they have to say, and they have their machines maybe
Speaker 2: recorded every day or they're right there at the appointed time.
Speaker 2: Those are different people. They're going to die. I hate
Speaker 2: to tell you. Hey, I'll tell you a joke. There's
Speaker 2: a pre preacher and he's at this church and he says,
Speaker 2: you know, he's giving a like a sermon on mortality.
Speaker 2: And he says, I hate to break it to you, everybody,
Speaker 2: but everybody in this parish is gonna die someday. Some
Speaker 2: guy starts laughing because it's you, sir. I think that's funny.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that's funny? He goes, I'm not
Speaker 2: from this parish.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one. Damn that was not bad.
Speaker 2: Okay, So uh no more you news.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I can see shows like that slowly
Speaker 3: going by the wayside, or you know, finding if if
Speaker 3: you can't find a way to adjust to the new
Speaker 3: formats and the new way people consume media, then you're
Speaker 3: gonna find yourself having to wave goodbye to your format.
Speaker 3: I mean, we we might be seeing the beginning of
Speaker 3: a trend with Colbert and the late night format because
Speaker 3: few and fewer people are going to be turning to
Speaker 3: live or normal network TV and make appointment viewing the
Speaker 3: way that they did when you can just have access
Speaker 3: to it anytime you want on demand on your phone.
Speaker 2: I got another one for you, A recent study by
Speaker 2: Authoritas Authorities indicates that Google AIS the Google's AI generated
Speaker 2: search results summaries known as AI overviews. You've seen these way, yes,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna go, I'm gonna look at a bunch
Speaker 2: of articles and then all of a sudden they just
Speaker 2: pop up this magic paragraph. You're like, that's enough, yeah,
Speaker 2: and you move on. This is causing a significant drop
Speaker 2: in traffic for news websites. Some sites are seeing nearly
Speaker 2: an eighty percent decline in audience when their content appears
Speaker 2: beneath an AI overview. The trend is raising serious concerns
Speaker 2: with media companies who fear it's an existential threat to
Speaker 2: their business model, and I would you know, eighty percent
Speaker 2: is a tough hit to take. Study also highlighted that
Speaker 2: Google's own YouTube links were more prominently featured than standard
Speaker 2: search results. Finding included an a legal complaint in the UK.
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, so does that mean since we're you know?
Speaker 3: Rumor word has it that the president is looking to
Speaker 3: deregulate AI and what it can possibly do and the
Speaker 3: reach it could possibly have. What's stopping the big media
Speaker 3: companies from creating their own AI in order to compete
Speaker 3: with other AIS.
Speaker 2: There's lots of AIS out there, oh, I.
Speaker 3: Know, and you start to have AI warfare, cyber AI warfare.
Speaker 2: Well, there's one that I saw one that that you know,
Speaker 2: how when you punch into AI and it's like if
Speaker 2: you AI, if you were like a racist and said, like,
Speaker 2: I'm a racist and I want to see how many
Speaker 2: Cambodians committing crimes in my neighborhood, and then the AI
Speaker 2: would go, you know, that's not nice. Let's not single
Speaker 2: out the Cambodise for crimes or whatever. It just wouldn't
Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, but there is one you can pay,
Speaker 2: it's a little more expensive and it'll do it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of different ones for different things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing you can have competing AI's program
Speaker 3: to say different things. And that's why that's where the
Speaker 3: ultimate downfall of AI, you would think would be. But
Speaker 3: so many people are so into having their biases confirmed
Speaker 3: versus learning the actual facts or truth of doing the
Speaker 3: research to actually learn it that you you would hope
Speaker 3: that like truth and like all that stuff would bubble
Speaker 3: up to the surface. But no, no, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting, Okay, we have any Disney I have
Speaker 2: some Disneyland news. Is there a Disneyland theme that we
Speaker 2: might have anywhere around here?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, here it is.
Speaker 4: Erasing all Either you can find a Disneyland the Pilot,
Speaker 4: pun Jump, the Smuggle Countrypan Fight Against the Rise Up
Speaker 4: Into Can stand for the longest ride that you can
Speaker 4: find a Disneyland. No, you can make the case that
Speaker 4: Rise of the Resistance is for attractions and not one.
Speaker 2: But that's with the comments sections for.
Speaker 4: Don't you think buzz like your astro ordered or up
Speaker 4: coasterb in the dark and finding Nemo underneath the one
Speaker 4: that leaves the park, Star towards Anatobya, Big Thunders Bailey,
Speaker 4: goat the Island.
Speaker 2: Rest Columbia and mark Lane verbal Green almost.
Speaker 4: To say it all all right, you'll find a Disneyland
Speaker 4: Yanna singing bread cruise here to lend a hand.
Speaker 2: All right, that's entertaining. That guy's good, Well, he's good.
Speaker 2: He's very good. That's a new discovery. I don't know
Speaker 2: who the guy is, but he's very jolly. Okay, Disneyland
Speaker 2: read this is the public service announcement.
Speaker 3: This is real.
Speaker 2: This is a good information for our listeners. In Anaheim,
Speaker 2: Disneyland is rolling out an ultra discounty ticket exclusively for
Speaker 2: Anaheim residence. Okay, you live in Anaheim. As part of
Speaker 2: the seventieth anniversary celebration, you can get a one day,
Speaker 2: one park ticket for seventy dollars. Wow, all you need
Speaker 2: is an Anaheim address, or just get a fake ID
Speaker 2: or something, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know what, that's not a bad idea. I should
Speaker 3: go get a fake ID that just says that I'm
Speaker 3: an Anaheim specifically for that it can be worth it. Well,
Speaker 3: it would totally be worth it, and still more expensive
Speaker 3: than Tokyo Japan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Toko Japan was like sixty five dollars sixty eight bucks. Yeah, grabsite. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, on the on the other hand, go to Japan,
Speaker 2: to go to Japan? Is the time to go to Japan? Yeah,
Speaker 2: before it gets before Trump fixes their economy somehow, to
Speaker 2: go now while they're suffering. So yeah, so you know
Speaker 2: the seventieth Anniversary, I just went to Disneyland all day
Speaker 2: long on Thursday. I had a guide and with some
Speaker 2: friends and had a great time. But I noticed that
Speaker 2: the seventieth Anniversary, I don't see I didn't see any
Speaker 2: like magic cleaning up or fixing of things, and it
Speaker 2: seemed like a shortage of employees, some broken rides, broken piranhas.
Speaker 2: So it just shows you. I don't think it's a
Speaker 2: fault of Disney because I believe in their ability to
Speaker 2: tackle these things. But they don't have enough people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't have the manpower to do to make it
Speaker 2: a flawless experience like maybe it once was, or maybe
Speaker 2: I'm imagining it, but it just seemed like every time
Speaker 2: I would see something all messed up, I go, whoa
Speaker 2: seventieth anniversary? But I had a great time. And if
Speaker 2: you have a gazillion dollars, get yourself a guide and
Speaker 2: don't wait on any lines, and you will, even as
Speaker 2: a you know, as an adult jaded person who has
Speaker 2: a pass, can go anytime they want. I don't go
Speaker 2: on rides usually, but then on the day that I
Speaker 2: have this guide, went on everything. Yeah, time, just a
Speaker 2: great time. Then how to sat on a bench to
Speaker 2: watch the fireworks with like a private roped off area?
Speaker 2: Oh nice, It's a magical life that I'm living. Sam.
Speaker 3: You know where my favorite place to watch the fireworks
Speaker 3: at Disneyland, It's at where they have Star.
Speaker 2: Star Wars' that's now the hot place.
Speaker 3: And I because it's reminiscent of the scene or from
Speaker 3: a Return of the Jedi at the very end when
Speaker 3: they're in the e Walk village and they have the
Speaker 3: fireworks and everything, and I swear on my phone, I
Speaker 3: put the music from that scene and I crank it
Speaker 3: up and people you can see nerds crying.
Speaker 2: They start gathering around you. Oh yeah, look at you.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get late, okay. And the other thing on
Speaker 2: another amusement park. Note we have not Sperry Farm News.
Speaker 2: We'll have to get a theme for them later in
Speaker 2: knots Berry Farm News. At least twenty riders were left
Speaker 2: dangling sixty feet in the air after a ride malfunctioned
Speaker 2: at Notts Spurry Farm in Buena Park and on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Video shared on social media showed the writers stranded in
Speaker 2: mid air. According to the Notts Bery Farm, the ride
Speaker 2: was stopped for approximately five minutes and all guests were
Speaker 2: able to exit safely after the issue was resolved and
Speaker 2: they reopened after a safety inspection that was a This
Speaker 2: isn't the first time Soul Spin ride has experienced shoes.
Speaker 2: In November twenty two guests were stuck on the same
Speaker 2: ride for several hours before being evacuated. But I just
Speaker 2: give them a hard time, not spray farmers. Also, an
Speaker 2: annual pass is like you probably have whatever is in
Speaker 2: your pocket. It will get you an annual pass. That's it.
Speaker 2: Now leave you with a taste of the greatest song
Speaker 2: ever written. Joe Sclante Live from Hollywood until next week.