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do you say you feel trapped in a man's.

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Speaker 1: But then, hello everybody, and welcome back to the shir

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That You Can't Be Serious podcast. We are about four

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part two of Raising Arizona versus The Big Lebowski The

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Dude El Duderino. If you're not into the whole brevity thing,

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we are here to talk about production of the movies.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the tidbits, we're talking about funniest parts,

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and then ultimately final judgment between these two classics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean they're the eleven years apart. You know,

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one is basically their kind of big masterpiece first funny movie,

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and the next one is their big masterpiece funny movie

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eleven years later, after some very sketchy stuff in between,

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and then of course then they start, you know, they're

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on the roll. They go off with a Brother, Where

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Art Thou right? And No Country for Old Men and

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all these other fantastic Oscar winning movies. But we're not

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here to talk about those today. We're here to talk

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about these two Cohen Brothers movies. But I mentioned last

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time that there's kind of this similarity that these movies have.

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I mean, you watch a Coen Brothers movie and you go, Okay,

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this is a Coen Brothers movie. Like it's distinct. It's

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not like other movies. People aren't doing this. I mean,

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Elmore Leonard kind of writes that witty type of dialogue,

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but it's not the Coen Brothers style at all. It's

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a whole, big masterpiece of stuff. And I was talking

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to AI yesterday a chat Yes, yes, that is exactly.

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and I kept trying to say, okay, just write this

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in the style of the Coen Brothers and it was like,

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I can't do that. I'm like, well, just to analyze

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this script, yes, and they'll tell me about that script.

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I'm like, okay, so just write it like that. I

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can't do that. It's a I have Like I literally

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I was like, can you just analyze all the scripts?

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And it's the response was this, yes, but that would

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take a lot of time and trouble. I'm not kidding.

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That's what the AI said to me. I'm like, you're AI,

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like you can read everything in a millisecond and still no, really,

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it is they are so good at what they do

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they cannot be penned down. But whenever I first started

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watching these movies again, I noted to you there is

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something unique that they do not and there are other

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people that do this. But just to hone in on

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one thing, I told you, it seems like every time

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in these movies, the characters basically end up right where

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these two movies, right, I mean, there's really no huge

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difference from where High starts off to where he ends up.

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to where he ends up. And it made me think

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of the Hudsucker proxy. Right. He holds up this picture

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of a circle and he says, you know, for kids,

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and it's this thing that comes up like they have

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like you've got the circle coin and no country for

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old men. You've got the bowling balls in the yeah,

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the Big Lebowski. And there's not a circle thing in

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raising Arizona. But he's a recidivist, which is I mean,

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that's what the circle is, right, he keeps.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know if this is related or not.

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Speaker 2: Nice. That's good. That's good.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing that's in the Raising Arizona

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that I saw that seems to keep like working its

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way around is the Doctor's Bock Baby Book, which is

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obviously not a circle, but it's got a circle on it,

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and it seems to rotate through all the characters along

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with Nathan Junior.

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Speaker 2: And gets beat up a whole bunch along.

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Speaker 1: The way, not unless rounds funny.

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Speaker 2: Nice, I like it. I like that's good analogy.

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Speaker 1: So there's my analogy for you. There's my thing you

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see over and over in the Coen Brothers movies. But

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beyond that, I'm not ai smart and I cannot en

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it down. It's just incredible what they do. But here's

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both very well lit, very bright, vibrant colors. You see

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all of the colors. I mean, like I said, it

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was like a cartoon like Looney Tunes. For Raising Arizona.

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the movie. The same for Miller's Crossing. You know it

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is it's neat how color means funnier With the Coen Brothers,

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Speaker 2: That they based some of the ideas from Big Lebowski

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on X line. Uh huh, excelly, Yeah, he was a

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softball player, okay, not a bowler. Not a bowler, and

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so me being a softball player.

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of it. I know the bullying is kind of where

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the movie is set and stuff, But back when we

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played you know, beer league softball, we took it very seriously.

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for a stepping over the line and spoking, you're about

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to enter a world of pain. We took our softball

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very seriously back in the day.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, you got to have some respect for

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Speaker 2: The only one around he who cares about the rules.

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Speaker 1: So other similarities in criminals, you got inept criminals. Anytime

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there's comedy with the Coen Brothers, you're gonna have some

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inept criminals. You got high who just he can't he

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piqued the wrong profession, right. Yes, you've got the nihilists

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in the Big Lebowski. Yes you've got the three escaped

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convicts in Old Brother. Where art thou? It's another sort

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of standard thing that they do.

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Speaker 2: But you know, our buddy Duff Dave reached out and

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said that Old Brother We're Out though, is his favorite

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of the Coen brother movies, and I haven't seen that forever.

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Speaker 1: So good and the album and the music is so good.

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really big. But on that note, we've got the same

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composer in both of these movies. His name is Carter Burd. Well,

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now you just finished editing our first episode on this,

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his music. What do you think? What do you think

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of these styles between Big Lebowski and Raising Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Well, Raising Arizona is the one that stands out of

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my mind the most, just because it's such hillbilly music.

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more folk rock and some sort of old style rock

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and roll. I will tell you this though, Dee, I

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he's like, man, I've had a bad day and I

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freaking the Eagles, Yeah, get out of mark care That

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through and pick all those perfect songs. Pick out the

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Bob Dylan song for the intro, pick out the Gypsy

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Kings for Jesus introduction, pick out Kenny Rogers and first

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Edition for the dream sequence. By the way, did we

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this is a throwback to that Chandler thing. You know,

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detective movies that they had back in the forties and

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like The Big Lebowski did, and they would go into

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these kind of weird dreams sequences. And that's what the

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two different dreams sequences with this. My favorite part is

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that this is supposed to be this Jackie Treehorn porno movie, right,

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but they stage it like a Busby Berkley musical. It's hysterical.

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Speaker 2: When he's lying on his back and like drifting down

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the bowling lane and he's looking up the women's skirts

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and he's like smirking and smiling laughing, that cracked me up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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the dream sequence, the bowling ball and the bowling pins

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make some very phalic looking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, movements exactly, and.

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Speaker 2: That cracked me up. Yeah, I didn't notice that the

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creates that's like a vision. Yeah, he creates the Horsemen

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it's so freaking funny. Pimple faced kids with guns which

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Raising Arizona. So number one, he pulls over and spontaneously

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the way, I told you the other day. I vacationed

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uh huh, he puts pantyhose on his head, goes inside

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while Holly Hunter is reading to Nathan Junior in the car,

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and she looks up and notices the panty hose, and

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the alert button for the cops. And he says that

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great line. I'll be taking these Huggies and whatever cash

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you got, And then he gets in the car with

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that guy and the guy's like, son, you got a

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Speaker 1: And that guy's screaming over and over again. Oh wow.

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this that is called the Seattle Liberation Front, right, okay,

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to stage these protests, and it's pretty They do one

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in February of nineteen seventy that gets pretty violent. They

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start like throwing bombs and rocks the courthouse. It gets

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really bad. And then they're about like two thousand people

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there like staging this big protest. And so when that

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And it's Michael Lerner and six other folks Seattle seven.

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You got it nice. So the Seattle seven is real.

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the show, his last name is Cohen, really not related.

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as terrible a movie as it was, Tell me it

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Cohen Brothers, not this other random H Cohen guy. And

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so without having read the script, he went ahead and said, yes.

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all you've got is a phone number.

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and the Speed of Sound Tour is also not real. However,

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Metallica are a bunch of holes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So we've mentioned how many times the word man

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and the fact that this is far outweighed by the

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Speaker 2: Right, nearly two to one. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So you know they showed this on TV.

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Speaker 2: Right, let me have it.

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Speaker 1: How is that possible? How is it possible that you

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can change the word to this is what happens when

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you fuck a stranger in the How do you change

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that for TV? Can you tell me?

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Speaker 2: I think you probably would just cut the whole thing?

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Speaker 1: Right? Is that what they? No? What they do?

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you find a stranger in the Alps. This is what happens.

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Speaker 1: Where else are you gonna find this information?

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Speaker 2: Guys? Exactly? Hey? By the way, on that note, John Goodman,

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the man who said that line, Yes, said this was

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the most fun he ever had making a movie. And

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that's the Big Lebowski.

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part of. Yes, And he's a common thread through both

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of them. You've got him in both Raising Arizona and

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his Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony and who is there,

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none other than Jeff Bridges. Okay, so for me, Jeff Bridges,

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he's Flynn and Tron, which we're getting ready to cover

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Tron here shortly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be great.

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Speaker 2: He's in Against All Odds, and he's Obadiah Stain in

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Iron Man.

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Speaker 2: So he does this wide range of characters, is a

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great actor. And he comes up there and he's got

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a package and he's got a suit and tie on,

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hands it to John Goodman. He reaches in the package

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and he pulls out the dude's sweater. Oh nice, and

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he starts speaking and acting again like the dude.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic great. I love it's great. So this is the

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first movie that Jeff Bridges had done with them, right,

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but it's like fifth or something that John Goodman had

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done with it, right, So When Jeff Bridges shows up

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to start the production, he asks John Goodman, when are

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we going to get the rewrites? Like how often do

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those come out? And John Goodman just looks at him

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and says, Coen Brothers write this and that's the end.

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Speaker 2: There are no rewrites, no rewrite themselves.

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Speaker 1: Nope, it's good. It is. It's really awesome. Okay. So

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at the very end of the movie, Yes, you've got

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the dude saying the dude abides Yes, and the stranger

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Sam Elliott, talking about how that can give us all comfort.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you. When I take comfort in

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that it's a good moon. He's out there, the dude

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taking her easy for all this sinners.

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Speaker 1: This comes from a Bible verse. It's Ecclesiastes one four. Yes,

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says one generation passes away and another generation comes, but

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the Earth abides forever. Preach much like the Earth. The

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dude is eternal.

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Speaker 2: You know, we talked last week about how they brought

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Sam Elliott in to be the narrator.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they.

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Speaker 2: Wanted him to be the very most Sam Elliott cowboy.

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He can be right and he's like, guys, I don't

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really get this, Like what am I doing. You know

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what am I? They like, look, just be Sam Elliott

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and read these lines, like, all right, I have a

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we move back to raising Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good.

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Speaker 2: So, according to an early draft of the script, the

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way that the dude has money and doesn't have to

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have a job is he's an heir to the Rubik's

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Cube fortune, the Ruby's Cube fortune.

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Speaker 1: Sure, are you employed, sir? Employed? You don't go out

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looking for a job dressed like that?

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Speaker 3: Do you?

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Speaker 1: On a weekday?

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Speaker 2: Is this? So?

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Speaker 1: What day is this? Okay? So I always keep an

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eye out for license plates, yes in movies. Okay, So

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toward the end of the movie, when we finally see

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that it is true, Bunny actually kidnapped herself. Yes, they're

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going to kill that poor woman. No, so she kidnapped herself.

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She has all of her toes. She's driving in her

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car listening to Viva Las Vegas by Elvis, right right,

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and as it takes off, you see her license plate

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and the license plate says lapi in lapin, which is

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French four Bunny.

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Speaker 2: Really, that's good, that's good.

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Speaker 1: I like it Bunny Knutson, Who are the Canutsins? Okay?

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Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about how the dude hates

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the Eagles Man. Yeah, I had a really long day

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and I freaking hate the Eagles man. Come on, I

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had a rough night and I hate the Eagles Man.

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So Alan Kleine wanted one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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for the use of the rolling Stone song Dead Flowers,

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but he cut that bee once he saw that scene

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where he hates the eagles. He waved that feet.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: How cool is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you I've got some tidbits for you. Let's

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jump back to Raise in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: But the doctor explained that our inside were a rocky

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place where my sea could find no purchase. Okay, yeah,

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hit me.

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Speaker 2: So we talked about the number of people that really

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love this film. Spike Lee is one of those guys, right,

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Simon peg is one of those guys, okay, sure, which

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we just talked about, and Peg on our Ready Player

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one episode og Tomorrow himself. Yes, absolutely, I thought it

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was funny. He calls it a living breathing Looney Tunes cartoon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what it is. By the way, the

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Ready Player one episode the movie just came out. It did,

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be sure and check that out at the White Rocket

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Entertainment podcast. We are with our friend Def Dave and

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Van Allen Plexigo, the host of that podcast.

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Speaker 2: That was fun and we love the book Ready Player one,

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and we have opinions about the movie Ready Player one,

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So go check us out over there. Yeah, okay, I

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thought this was funny. One day, Nick Cage and Sam McMurray.

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Sam m murray is the guy who plays Glynn.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: They went out to lunch in costume uh huh, and

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there's a girl there who sort of recognized Nick Cage.

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But he looks so weird and funny and his hair

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is messed up and he's got a mustache and he

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looks like trailer trash.

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that's right, Yeah, keep going.

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Speaker 2: So she came up to him and was like, you know, hi,

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are you Nick Cage because you look like him and

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I want to get an autograph. He's like, yeah, I'm

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Nick Cage.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: So he took and he signed Tomorrow you will die

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Nick Cage. What in the world. He's a different cat man.

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Speaker 1: He is a weird dude.

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Speaker 2: He is a weird dude.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent? No, well,

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it's it's interesting. It's Nick Cage plays Nick Cage in

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this right.

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Speaker 2: Ask me if I've heard of that movie.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard? Okay, it just came out last year.

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It's got Nick Cage and Pedro Pascal I mean cutting out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of memes going on with it right now

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where they've dropped acid or whatever. But he Nick Cage

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is like kind of in this washed up stage and

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he keeps talking to his younger self, and his younger

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self has the same hair that h I McDonough has

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in Raising Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Really, yes, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: It's really uncomfortable when they kiss. Hey, I saw spoiler alert.

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Speaker 2: Bando and Hi sharing a kiss.

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Speaker 1: No, no, not man, not Mando, Nick Cage and Nick Cage.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, okay. I saw a video where Nick

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Cage was in Las Vegas. This is toll side note. Yeah,

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Nick Cage was hanging out with Vince Neil, and Vince

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Neil was drunk and belligerent.

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Speaker 1: I saw that and Nick.

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Speaker 2: Cage, like, dude, you got a chill out man with.

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Speaker 1: Nick Cage is telling you to calm down. You know

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you've gone too far. That is a wake up call,

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right there, buddy, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Vince Neil of Motley Crue. If you haven't listened to

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our Girls Girls Goos episode from last summer, go check

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that out. Okay, I've got something for you. Yeah, I

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got a trivia question.

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Speaker 1: Actually, okay, yeah, I'm ready for it.

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage, Holly Hunter. Yeah, both have superhero connections.

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you name.

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Speaker 2: The superhero connections?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I can, can you? Yeah? Holly Hunter is the

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voice for this is incredible. On The Incredibles, Elasta Girl,

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Elasta Girl.

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Speaker 2: Settle down?

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: I'm at the top of my game.

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Speaker 1: I went up there with the big dogs.

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Speaker 3: Girls.

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Speaker 1: Come on, leave the staging the world to the men.

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I don't think it so. And Nick Cage is the

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father of one of the young kid superheroes in the

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movie kick Ass. Really yeah. Also Nick Cage is ghost writer.

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Also Nick Cage really wanted to be Superman, and.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was hoping you.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of Nick Age comic book connections. But

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the only one that doesn't suck is kick Ass. By

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the way, as long as we're referencing other movies, yea,

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you know the scene where Jackie tree Horn takes a

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phone call and then steps out of the room, and

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so the dude, being very you know, espionage, sneaks over

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and rubs the pencil on the pad of paper to

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see what he's writing. And it's the dude with a

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gigantic cart on. Yes, okay, so I was I was

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watching Alfred Hitchcock's movie north By Northwest and that they

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stole it straight from Yeah, out of here it is.

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It is a fact.

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Speaker 2: That is fascinating. Way to go. That's a good that's

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a good one.

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Speaker 1: Except in north By Northwest it was not a giant penis.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't what was it? Okay, they made that part

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up other movies I want to talk to you about

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real quick.

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Speaker 2: So Nick Cage and William Forsyth were in a movie

472
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:20,799
in the nineties.

473
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: Uh huh, which was The Rock The Rock Okay, yeah, right, gotcha?

474
00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, then The Rock is a great action movie.

475
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,240
That's a Shirley movie. I would love to cover that

476
00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:32,319
at some point. Sure, Sean Connery helps the good guys

477
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,359
break back in Alcatraz. Our buddy Pat Cannagallo of the

478
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,559
thirty something Movie Podcast sent me this video the other day.

479
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: By the way, guys, if you're not listening to the

480
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,000
thirty something Movie Podcast, you should be. Those guys are

481
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,640
freaking awesome.

482
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: They are they are they are good friends. He sent

483
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,440
me this video that explains why The Rock is actually

484
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,160
a James Bond movie, not like James Bond, an actual

485
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,519
James Bond movie.

486
00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: Oh so we're saying that the Sean Connery character is

487
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,640
in fact James Bond in an American prison.

488
00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 2: Yes, huh, it's interesting.

489
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to check that out.

490
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good.

491
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,839
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, have you ever seen the movie The

492
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,279
Professional Yes, okay, Natalie Portman as a young kid and

493
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,160
a hit man. Yes, with her.

494
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: It's a really good movie. Yes, it came out what

495
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,440
seven years after Raising Arizona.

496
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety four, a bit more dramatic.

497
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: But the very end of that movie, oh yeah, Leon

498
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,960
kills the Gary Oldman character in basically the same way

499
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,160
that High kills the Apocalypse guy at the end of

500
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,960
Raising Arizona.

501
00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, if you don't know what we're talking about.

502
00:24:35,839 --> 00:24:38,359
At the end of Raising Arizona. Close to the end

503
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,960
of Raising Arizona, in that battle scene between High and

504
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,039
Lenny Small's there's this moment where, I mean, Nick Cage

505
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:51,559
is just getting his ass handed to him, yes, and

506
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:54,599
his face is all lopsided from getting beat up, and

507
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,119
he's trying to crawl into the car to get away

508
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,480
any low motion gets and he's getting this bare and

509
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,960
then there's this like moment where everything just stops and

510
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,319
they realize they both have the woody woodpecker tattoo. Yes,

511
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,480
because it's that's what he is, right, It's the duality

512
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,720
of man. It's the same guy, right, all of that.

513
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,279
It's his evil self, it's his evil size, it is

514
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,200
his his criminal past that he was trying to put

515
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,359
to rest, right, Yes, and then he gets thrown. Lenny

516
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,920
Small throws him, and it looks like he's about to

517
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,880
get it handed to him for the final time, and

518
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,440
then all of a sudden raises up his hand and

519
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,680
he shows Lenny Small's the gnade, the grenade pen and

520
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:40,720
Lenny Smalls is decorated with grenades all over him, and

521
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:44,119
he's got this you have this one moment, the only

522
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,240
moment where Lenny Small shows fear and he panics, drops

523
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:51,000
his guns awkwardly tries to get it but it's too late.

524
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:55,000
And it is one of the best explosions I've ever seen.

525
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,680
I mean, you got the boot with the leg still

526
00:25:57,759 --> 00:26:01,279
in it, falling to the ground on fire. It's freaking awesome.

527
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,000
And the same thing happens in The Professional, right, that's right? Oh,

528
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,960
spoiler alert. Sorry guys, if you haven't you didn't know

529
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,880
that movie was coming up.

530
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: It's a fantastic movie as well.

531
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: Guys, the movie's twenty nine years old. I'm sorry I

532
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:15,680
spoil it, right, right, but yeah, so same thing except

533
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,519
that he hands the grenade pin to Gary Oldman's character,

534
00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:22,279
who's the bad guy, after Gary Oldman has just shot

535
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,359
him in the back of that head basically and says

536
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,720
it's from Matilda. And I think the explosion was even

537
00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,400
bigger in the Professional and it blew.

538
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: Out of that building. It was awesome. Hey, you know

539
00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:37,240
you mentioned something I was going to talk about. I

540
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,160
told you when we first watched Raisin Arizona's a couple

541
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,599
of guys after football practice one night and we swung

542
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,799
by the video store and we grabbed a pizza or whatever.

543
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:48,079
And one of the movies we watched was Rais in Arizona.

544
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,759
One of the funniest scenes to us, or not even

545
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:54,160
a scene, just a small little part, was when the

546
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,240
Apocalypse guy Lenny Smalls is driving by and there's like

547
00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:00,960
a gecko sunning on a rock, and he takes out

548
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,039
his shotgun and just blasted off that rock for no reason.

549
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,079
We laughed our butts off and we kept rewinding and

550
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,759
watching that scene. It's just really funny.

551
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:09,559
Speaker 1: How do they do that?

552
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: Like, no animals during the production. Okay, d have you

553
00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:18,400
ever heard of Herb drink.

554
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Water, this character in James Bond movie.

555
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: No, No, it's not.

556
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Actually, wasn't that like mister Bean's character in uh.

557
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: Because Nigel small Johnson or something like.

558
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:33,839
Speaker 1: That, Small Tapper, small Fawcet. That's it.

559
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: That's it.

560
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: It's not that guy.

561
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,039
Speaker 2: Never say never again.

562
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good.

563
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:38,799
Speaker 2: Recall right there.

564
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for both of us. Yeah, okay, so.

565
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: Herb drink Water was the mayor of Scottsdale at the

566
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,960
time they filmed Raised in Arizona.

567
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,559
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

568
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: So good old Herb. You know, here's what he says

569
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,400
about the movie Raising Arizona that film has no redeeming

570
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,000
social value, and it certainly isn't the image that Arizona

571
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:02,039
wants to project.

572
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:05,599
Speaker 1: What I mean, They're gonna only let the kid watch

573
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:11,119
educational television and sports involving, obviously the University of Arizona.

574
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: Come on, lighting up, Francis.

575
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: Geez, that's fantastic.

576
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,759
Speaker 2: Okay. One more person I want to bring up before

577
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,720
we leave Raised in Arizona is Trey Wilson.

578
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,079
Speaker 1: What did the pajamas? I don't know.

579
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:27,279
Speaker 2: They were jammies and yodasn't on them.

580
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,799
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

581
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,279
Speaker 2: Trey Wilson plays Nathan Arizona.

582
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:35,279
Speaker 1: Sir. It says hither that your real name is Nathan huffheins, Yeah,

583
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,160
what of it? Is there a reason you changed it? Yeah?

584
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,279
Would you buy furniture from a place called unpainted hoffhins?

585
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: This is the same guy who played the manager in

586
00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:44,599
bull Durham, right.

587
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: Lollygaggers, Lollygaggers.

588
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,799
Speaker 2: He died like just shortly after Bullderam came out.

589
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they were actually writing a part for him

590
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:57,599
for Miller's Crossing. Okay. The leader of the bad guys,

591
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,359
the bad guy gang in Miller's Crossing with the supposed

592
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:02,519
to be Trey Wilson that was playing that part. It

593
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000
was a surprise death. He was a young guy, like

594
00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:08,400
early fifties, I think, very young, very young guy. So

595
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240
suddenly they're without the guy that they had written the

596
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,359
part for, and so they said, hey, let's see if

597
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,319
Albert Finnie will do it. I don't know why. Albert

598
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:18,799
Finnie does not remind me of Trey Wilson in any way,

599
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,599
shape or form, but he's got one of the most

600
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:24,200
memorable parts in the movie. I mean he's there's this

601
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,519
attack scene. It's super awesome. He dresses in drag, which

602
00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:30,720
you know, they said, you know he's British, so they're

603
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,119
halfway there anyway, right, anyway, sorry for our British listeners.

604
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,319
That's just a joke. I was quoting the Coen Brothers

605
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,960
on that one. But anyway, Yeah, like Albert Finnie last

606
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,599
minute is available and walks in in his off book.

607
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,599
I mean, he is a pro and nails the part. Wow,

608
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,200
he's one of the best parts of the movie.

609
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:50,359
Speaker 2: Okay, you know I haven't seen that, so I'd like

610
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:50,880
to watch that.

611
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good homage to Trey Wilson. I guess okay,

612
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,880
one final thing we mentioned. Obviously, they've got all these

613
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,440
actors that are in there, so many of their movie movies,

614
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,839
they've got the crew that they go to, and in

615
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,720
their beginning movies, they almost always had the same editor.

616
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:12,279
And that guy's name was Roderick James. But the only

617
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,839
movies that he's ever edited are Coen Brothers movies. Okay,

618
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,559
you know why no, because it's actually the Coen Brothers.

619
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,319
It is a fake name. What that they gave. I

620
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,839
guess what they saw. You know, you've got them both writing,

621
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,400
you've got them both producing, you've got them both directing,

622
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,000
and you just see Cohen after Cohen after Cohen, and

623
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:33,640
so finally they're like, you know what, I don't want

624
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,160
to see our name again. Let's make up a name

625
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,039
and we'll make that guy that's pretty good roder Janes.

626
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:38,480
There you go.

627
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,839
Speaker 2: One more thing on that, just touching on that as well. Yeah,

628
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,039
the the news camera guys who are interviewing Nathan huffheines, yes,

629
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,880
right on their microphone, it says KOI in, like radio

630
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,880
station KOI in or TV station koi in.

631
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:53,599
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

632
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,319
Speaker 2: You know why? It says KOI in no Cohen.

633
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: Oh, but that that's great.

634
00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:01,319
Speaker 2: The little nod right there, that is good.

635
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: I like it.

636
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: Okay, before we do final judgment, I've got some interesting

637
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,039
things I think that happened at the box office in

638
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:10,759
nineteen eighty seven, Yes, and in nineteen ninety eight. I

639
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,839
just want to drop these on you real quick. Yeah,

640
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,240
all right, so before we do that.

641
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this stick up.

642
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:18,039
Speaker 2: Everybody freeze, everybody on the ground.

643
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: Well, which is it, young fella? You want I should

644
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:24,839
freeze or get down on the ground. I mean to say,

645
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440
if and I freeze, I can't rightly drop. And if

646
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,519
and I drop, I'm want to be in motion.

647
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,799
Speaker 2: You see that? Far cracks me up. We're the big television,

648
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:39,079
We're the tilling We're down here, sir.

649
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

650
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,079
Speaker 2: Okay, So just some interesting things going on in nineteen

651
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:46,599
eighty seven.

652
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,119
Speaker 1: Okay.

653
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: So the top movies of nineteen eighty seven are littered

654
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,519
with Shirley movies. Okay, Yeah, movies that either we've covered

655
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,160
or we want to cover. Okay, So just at the top,

656
00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:02,039
Heaverly Hills, Cop two, Platoon, Fatal Attraction, Untouchables, three Minute

657
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:05,200
of Baby, Secret of My Success, Stakeout, Leave the Weapon. Okay.

658
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Wow.

659
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: Number ten for the year is Predator. Number fourteen is RoboCop.

660
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,799
Number sixteen is Dirty Dancing, Okay. Number forty eight is

661
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,880
Ernest goes to Camp. That finished ahead of Raising Arizona

662
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,880
for final box office shut up. Number forty nine is

663
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:30,400
Raising Arizona. Number fifty one Jaws the Revenge? What and

664
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,720
bringing up the Rear Number seventy three Superman for the

665
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:34,599
Quest for Peace.

666
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: You're telling me that this ranked only two places higher

667
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,400
barely then Jaws the Revenge barely? What is wrong with it?

668
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720
They're just too far ahead of their time.

669
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy, man, Wake up son, Okay, same thing

670
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,279
kind of happened in ninety eight. Okay.

671
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:52,839
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

672
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: So interesting that the Cohen Brothers were originally slotted to

673
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:01,359
release The Big Lebaski Christmas of ninety six seven. Okay. Yeah,

674
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,640
And we've talked before that June of nineteen eighty one

675
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,599
is one of the greatest months for movies in the eighties. Yeah,

676
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:12,319
December of nineteen ninety seven is pretty freaking stout. So

677
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,880
just listen to what was going on around Christmas December

678
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,160
of nineteen ninety seven. Okay, Goodwill, Hunting, Amistad, Screamed two,

679
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:24,559
Tamorrow Never Dies. Okay, James Bond movie, You've got Jackie Brown,

680
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:27,920
The Postman, which Kevin Costner was a big thing American

681
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,960
well from Paris. And oh, by the way, Titanic was

682
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,440
released that month, so the Coen Brothers said, forget that,

683
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,000
we're not competing with all those guys, will get washed away.

684
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,440
They moved it to March.

685
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,519
Speaker 1: Of ninety eight. Gotcha.

686
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: The biggest thing they had to compete with at that

687
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,839
time was the Man in the Iron Mask coming, so

688
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,079
a little bit wiser, but still. The Big Lebowski finished

689
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,799
ninety eighth at the box office for nineteen ninety eight.

690
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: What it was?

691
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:59,599
Speaker 2: Still buried? I mean, you're talking Titanic, Armageddon, saving Private Ryan,

692
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,599
something about Mary, the water Boy, The Truman Show, Grease.

693
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,599
The re release of Grease finished at sixty six, way

694
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,039
ahead of the Big Lebowski. Wow.

695
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: So wow.

696
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,559
Speaker 2: Half Baked finished one notch ahead of the Big Lebowski.

697
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,599
It's kind of crazy.

698
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: Off Baked is another cult classic. Yeah, but nothing, nothing

699
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,639
compared to the Dude.

700
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: I know, right, some interesting things happening at the box office. Okay,

701
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,199
are we ready for final judgment.

702
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:33,079
Speaker 1: I yes, okay, Yeah, I knew that I had a

703
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preference when we started this process. Yeah, I hesitated through

704
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watching the two movies. But I know where I stand. Okay, Okay,

705
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let me go first.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: It is, without question the Big Lebowski for me every day,

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all day, and twice on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I love Raising Arizona. I love it to death. I

711
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think it's great. It's quirky. I like how the Coen

712
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:00,960
Brothers and Nick Cage worked together, even though they didn't

713
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,039
like working together themselves. It is one of those classics

714
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:07,639
that I will go back to again and again. I

715
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don't remember if I mentioned this in these episodes, but

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Raising Arizona was the first movie my wife and I

717
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,880
watched together on our very first date. Really, yes, so

718
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,880
it's it's got a special meaning to me. You know what.

719
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,559
The second movie that we watched together was Big Lebski.

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You got it right?

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00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: Well?

722
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,639
Speaker 1: Wow, yes, So we watched Raising Arizona. She had seen

723
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it before, I had seen it before. But we both

724
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,159
loved it, so why not we? You know, I brought

725
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over a DVD. Now this was before DVDs. I brought

726
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,000
over a VHS and a bottle of wine, and we

727
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:42,199
laid on the floor and enjoyed raising Arizona and we're

728
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239
behaved well and all of that good stuff. And I thought, man,

729
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,440
if she loves the Cohen Brothers, I'm gonna wow her

730
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with The Big Lebowski because she hasn't seen it, and

731
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:54,840
I bring it over and I had forgotten how many

732
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,079
f bombs there are in this movie. And whenever we

733
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got done, I was like, she's about to ream me out,

734
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,719
and she's like, that was awesome, and she's right and

735
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,320
it works. It was I mean, that was a long

736
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time ago, twenty two years ago. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

738
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Speaker 1: So The Big Lebowski is what I might call a

739
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,000
perfect movie. It has a plot that's complicated but actually

740
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,519
comes together and makes sense. It's got characters that are

741
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,519
so memorable and so perfect. The coloring is perfect, the

742
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:31,119
cinematography is perfect, the song choices are perfect. There is

743
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,760
literally nothing wrong with this movie. And it is by

744
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,960
two of the guys that I regard in the top

745
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:42,920
notches of all writers and directors in Hollywood. The Big

746
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Lebowski is my final choice.

747
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's fantastic.

748
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm waiting to see okay before I.

749
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,039
Speaker 2: Give my final judgment.

750
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

751
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,679
Speaker 2: One of the things I want to mention to you

752
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:56,480
that I forgot to mention. I love Jeff Bridges as

753
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:02,199
the dude. I love how he reacts to crisis, okay,

754
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,880
or to bluntness right right. He's just trying to get

755
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,800
his rug back. He doesn't really care about your feelings.

756
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,039
He's just trying to get back to his apartment and

757
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:16,800
get back to life as it should be.

758
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,599
Speaker 1: Right.

759
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,119
Speaker 2: So when he meets Maud, this was the one that

760
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,480
every time I see it, he just cracks me up.

761
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,519
She's like, she's talking to him about all these weird

762
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:28,559
things like vagina oil.

763
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,639
Speaker 1: Yes, they don't like hearing it and find it difficult

764
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,960
to say, whereas without batting an eye, a man will

765
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,039
referred to his or his rod or his Johnson.

766
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:42,639
Speaker 2: Johnson Johnson, right, like what are we talking about here?

767
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: Right?

768
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,079
Speaker 2: So he just gets this very peaceful look on his face,

769
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:48,800
like what are you talking about?

770
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Coitus?

771
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,079
Speaker 2: And when Jesus comes over and rips them a new one.

772
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,679
You know, I'm gonna get you guys on Wednesday, and

773
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,760
he's like, Jesus, that's right. Yeah. So I just love

774
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,480
his reactions Okay.

775
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: So it's just like your opinion, man, I.

776
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:15,159
Speaker 2: Know I love his just take on life. So with

777
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,960
that said, my final judgment is Raising Arizona all day,

778
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,400
every day and twice on Sunday. It's not even close

779
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,840
in my book. Okay, So for me, Raising Arizona is funny,

780
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,159
just outright funny. And I'm a Looney Tunes I'm a

781
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:35,559
slapstick kind of guy. To me, that plot is clearer,

782
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:39,960
it's easier to understand, it's simpler. Yeah, it's a fun ride.

783
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:43,960
I'm on board from the get go. I love Raising Arizona.

784
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,000
I have since fallen in love with The Big Lebowski

785
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:49,559
and it's funny, but it is convoluted. It's a little

786
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:51,760
bit tougher to understand. I had to call you and

787
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,559
I'm like, so, am I understanding this right? So for me,

788
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:58,639
it's all day, every day Raising Arizona.

789
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:01,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, I understand. I love the movie. I'm

790
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:02,239
not gonna follow you.

791
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,559
Speaker 2: But I like them. I enjoyed both of them in

792
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:06,280
this episode.

793
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: Well, there you go, Shirley fans. You have our take

794
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,719
on it. Once again, we are on opposite sides of

795
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,920
the matchup. But tell us what you think. You can

796
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,880
find us on Facebook at Shirley Podcast. You can find

797
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us on Twitter at Shirley Podcast. You can email us

798
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at Shirleypodcast at gmail dot com. Those are some of

799
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,480
our best comments. I mean, we got one that we

800
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:31,639
read last episode from Best Sloan, which is absolutely fantastic.

801
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:35,519
We've had Chad Briggs write to us about Tron and

802
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,039
wargames and it looks like he might co host with

803
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:40,840
us when we do that episode, and that's gonna be fantastic.

804
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Def Dave is the one that emailed us and ended

805
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:46,519
up has become one of our best friends. So please

806
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,000
email us or contact us through Twitter and Facebook. We

807
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:52,239
would love to hear how you feel. Tell us what

808
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,559
do you pick? You pick Raising Arizona? Do you pick

809
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:57,159
the big Lebowski? Do you pick? Oh Brother? Where art thou?

810
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Tell us what your thoughts are? We would love to hear.

811
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Speaker 2: Okay, listen to what we got coming up. D I'm

812
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,360
so excited about our future schedule. Okay, next week. But

813
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we got together with the guys from a film buy

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uh Huh, the thirty Sethy Podcast, White Rocket Entertainment, and

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Def Dave and we did a bond Girl's draft. This

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is a best of the James Bond Girls discussion.

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Speaker 1: You you did rate my bondgirl dot com.

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Speaker 2: It was It's gonna be about I'm telling you, is

819
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so good.

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Speaker 1: I do not know how this cannot be a sexist pig.

821
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Speaker 2: Fast Well, you'll just have to come and listen.

822
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: Are the girls gonna enjoy this episode as well as

823
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:40,920
I think?

824
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,039
Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think so we are a gentleman as we discussed.

826
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, good features. I'm excited because I listened to

827
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our episode every week and usually I'm surprised. I'm like,

828
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did I say that this one, I'm gonna be completely

829
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surprised because it wasn't even there. So I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Turned out really well. Yeah, So that one's already done

831
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and in the books. After that, you and I are

832
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gonna sit down and we're gonna discuss two of the

833
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,320
biggest movies of nineteen eighty eight, Turn in thirty five,

834
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Tom Hanks, Big and Arnold Schwarzenegger and Dan DeVito in Twins.

835
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We're gonna compare those two, get into it on that,

836
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:20,519
and then after that we will be discussing Open Up

837
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,519
and say Ah by Poison, going track by track with

838
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:27,239
our good friend and Patreon Dale Selby and then compare

839
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that to Living Color Vivid with.

840
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Speaker 1: James Bugley Smoking Hot albums.

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Speaker 2: Those are and the interesting thing is those two albums

842
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,800
were released on the same day in nineteen eighty eight.

843
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Speaker 1: Guys, we need your help in making these episodes. So

844
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if you want to be an executive producer on one

845
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Can be as little as five bucks a month, and

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We give you access to our secret episode modes that

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we have once a month, and we usually hit one

851
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hit wonders, but we've hit some big hitters as well.

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But these are some special episodes that we do only

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So go to patreon dot com back Slash Shirley Podcast

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Speaker 2: That's right, those are the stories behind the song and

858
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,840
last month we did Aha Take On Me.

859
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Speaker 1: This month we're doing Soft Cell Tainted Love, and next

860
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month we're doing I don't know yet because I'm waiting

861
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to find out.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I can't wait to drop that one.

863
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I know it's my pick this year, this month.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, that's it. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, check us out on YouTube. We got some stuff

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on YouTube. Yeah, some pretty cool stuff.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, guys, it's been great. We will talk to you

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next week, I guess