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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it's Neil Savedra.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to kfi EM six forty the four Report

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<v Speaker 2>on demand on the iHeartRadio app. How do you do

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<v Speaker 2>something about summertime? Just you know, backyard grilling, going out

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<v Speaker 2>to eat, just enjoying the weather. All of these things

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<v Speaker 2>come together in one. And maybe it's because I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>summer baby. I was born in the summer, so the

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<v Speaker 2>summer months are always special to me. But just really,

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<v Speaker 2>you start thinking about how luckily we are to be

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<v Speaker 2>so close to the ocean, great seafood, great fish, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about those things, you cannot you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be in southern California and not think about San Pedro Fish.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can check them out if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>find out more about them at San pedrofish dot com

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<v Speaker 2>San pedrofish dot com. And here to talk about what

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<v Speaker 2>they've got going on for the summer and for the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth July is Michael Angaro. How are you, brother, I'm great, Thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the show. Yeah, we're just talking cigars.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a married man? I am? Okay, So look

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<v Speaker 1>at it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh into the cigar. Her asthma does not agree with I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was gonna say so, how do you do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I have a few hiding places. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 3>really open it back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yard and then you have to wear like a space

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<v Speaker 2>helmet in the house. So yeah, I stopped years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It was never a cigarette smoker. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever had a cigarette.

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<v Speaker 1>In my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>But cigars, they're they're really nice. With a nice port

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<v Speaker 2>or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know, or some basils, basil Hiden's.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I just some Luxado cherries.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, a little bit of a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>the yeah, yeah, for the syrup in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing like buying uh, you know, cherries for twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>dollars jar. It's like, uh, but you know that you

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<v Speaker 2>work hard in life and you want to have Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have some nice things. So you and I understand

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<v Speaker 2>each other already. How's everything going out there? It's sant Peter.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's going pretty well. Do you know like our situation.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't for quite a bit. I think we did

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<v Speaker 3>a zoom during the pandemic. Indeed, we did, so it

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<v Speaker 3>has been a while. Yeah, but it's going well in

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<v Speaker 3>the last So just a quick background. So next year

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be celebrating our seventieth anniversary started nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty six on my grandfather opened the original location called

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<v Speaker 3>this the Seafood nineteen fifty nine, moved down to the waterfront,

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<v Speaker 3>took over a place called Norms Landing seventy nine eighty,

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<v Speaker 3>they expanded the Portsical Village, so we moved out of

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<v Speaker 3>Norms into a parking lot. We're there for about a

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<v Speaker 3>year and a half. We rebuilt an open San Peter

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<v Speaker 3>to a fish market Good Friday nineteen eighty two, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we're just on a streak, just growing, growing, growing.

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<v Speaker 3>We expanded up to three thousand seats at one point

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<v Speaker 3>doing about two million customers a year, more than anyone

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<v Speaker 3>except SeaWorld. And then they're but they're redeveloping again. So

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<v Speaker 3>Portscal's gone, and so we had to leave that building

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<v Speaker 3>on March third of twenty twenty three, two years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>move into a parking lot again, which is where we're

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<v Speaker 3>at now.

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<v Speaker 1>While do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 3>So they're building new places now. The good news is

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<v Speaker 3>we we're part of that project. I signed a forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine year lease which we will move into soon. We

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<v Speaker 3>have to build that from the ground up.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you sign a forty nine year lease.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what everybody asks me. So we believe in

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<v Speaker 3>the brand. You know, I'm third generation going on force.

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, I know that part, but just that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It just is mind boggling, you know, of

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<v Speaker 2>course the brand.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're getting into like the financial part of it,

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<v Speaker 3>what's challenging is the city and the state. They own

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<v Speaker 3>the land. So normally you'd buy the land and then

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<v Speaker 3>you can build on it, and you could you can

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<v Speaker 3>finance it that way, but when you don't the forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine year lease banks look at it as if it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a home. It's like a piece of property that

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<v Speaker 3>you own, even though we have to build it from

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<v Speaker 3>the ground up and we don't own the land. So

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<v Speaker 3>it allows us to borrow the money that we need

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<v Speaker 3>to build it because it could be a twenty million

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<v Speaker 3>dollar project. It's fifty five thousand square feet. Holy and

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna which is what we had before, So we'll

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<v Speaker 3>we'll go back to our three thousand seats and we're

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<v Speaker 3>just basically going to make it all more efficient and

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<v Speaker 3>effective than it ever had been.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you guys so beloved.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we take care of our customers, been around

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, Our customer base is super loyal. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the things we notice now is people come in

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<v Speaker 3>and say, hey, I used to come in as a

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<v Speaker 3>kid with my parents, and I've got my kid my

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<v Speaker 3>parents with me, and they want to re experience that.

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<v Speaker 3>And what we do is we really like celebrating food

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<v Speaker 3>and families sort of our value proposition, if you will.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we're all about.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, you know. So that's exactly why I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>on a Saturday too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, I think we need to remind ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>about what we lived well, work so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, and and then you know, people come down

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<v Speaker 3>Usually parties is three generations, so it's all picnic benches.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all right on the water and they come down there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and our height, you'd be in line for

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<v Speaker 3>a good hour and an hour and a half two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred yard long line just to get in the building

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<v Speaker 3>another hour before you can actually settle and get your food,

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<v Speaker 3>and people drive one hundred miles before the like more

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<v Speaker 3>of a tourist attraction really, and it seefood experience is

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<v Speaker 3>what we call it. So what we're doing is we're

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<v Speaker 3>redesigning that. We hired an architecture firm called Studios. They

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<v Speaker 3>I assume you've been to Italy at some point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, So they designed Italy's And what we realized

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<v Speaker 3>is what we what we had evolved into by accident.

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<v Speaker 3>As we're getting busier and busier and busiers. We had

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<v Speaker 3>all these stations that we just would build, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but put a kitchen out there. We need a the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>Put a kitchen here, take half the crab, a live

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<v Speaker 3>crab and lobster tanks out and replace it with griddles

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<v Speaker 3>and so that worked, but it wasn't very efficient. But

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<v Speaker 3>the experience was there. Go buy your seafood here, bring

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<v Speaker 3>it to a kitchen there. I tell you haven't to cook.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone else waits on line for beer, someone else gets

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<v Speaker 3>the fish and chips, someone else gets the crab. It worked,

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<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't really efficient. It was effective, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was efficient. So Studios we realized that would be a

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<v Speaker 3>great firm to hire, because what we accidentally created was

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<v Speaker 3>a very ineffective version or an efficient version of what

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<v Speaker 3>Italy is, which is a lot of different places to

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<v Speaker 3>get your your protein, your side, your sandwich, whatever. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're bringing that experience back in the first place you'll

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<v Speaker 3>find it is on the Fisherman's War from Monterey Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>I just signed a thirty year lease for a location there,

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen thousand square foot restaurant which we planned open next summer. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>so it works. We're we're on the rise, we're expanding.

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<v Speaker 3>I carry the one. Yeah, I will not be it wet,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's that's part of it. So back to the

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<v Speaker 3>original question. What we did was we left the original

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<v Speaker 3>buildings March third to twenty twenty three sink of Demile.

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<v Speaker 3>Two months later we opened and a pop up parking

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<v Speaker 3>lot was seating for nine hundred, serving about five hundred

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<v Speaker 3>to six hundred thousand people out of that. Holy so

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<v Speaker 3>and we had to really pivot and what was so

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<v Speaker 3>the terrible parts right, you're watching these buildings we grew

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<v Speaker 3>up and get torn down. The plus is that allowed

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<v Speaker 3>us to start from the ground up and do all

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<v Speaker 3>the things we couldn't incorporate into that old structure, like

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of technology. So the only way we could

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<v Speaker 3>do this was QR codes on the table, scan and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll run the food to you. Not what we envisioned doing,

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<v Speaker 3>but we gave it a shot. And people are like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to wait in six different lines. You're

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<v Speaker 3>just going to keep bringing the food and the beer

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<v Speaker 3>to meat great, and we were able to actually be

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more efficient that way. So we'll have some

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<v Speaker 3>of that technology in the new locations. But really the

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<v Speaker 3>goal is bringing back the seafood experience, which we just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of brought back about maybe three months ago, where

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't have a fish market built into a parking lot.

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<v Speaker 3>But we figured out how to do that, and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>figure out how to do it in the next phase.

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<v Speaker 3>So in between the forty nine your release and the

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<v Speaker 3>parking lot we're in now is what we call Phase two,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's a dirt lot that's sort of right between

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<v Speaker 3>the two places, right right on the waterfront. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to open that. I'm hoping we'll be able to use

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<v Speaker 3>it for Fourth of Jolly weekend. We're just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get through building and safety. But that is incredible. This

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<v Speaker 3>is thirty three thousand square feet. We use a company

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<v Speaker 3>called MKUSA that does container kitchens, so they fashioned this

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<v Speaker 3>entire kitchen complex about twenty five hundred to three thousand

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<v Speaker 3>square feet in size. It's got a sixty foot long

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<v Speaker 3>kitchen of just griddles and friars walk in freezers, refrigerators,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there we use another container that's a bar

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<v Speaker 3>and then it's just all DG just basically all like sand.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what it looks like right with We could

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<v Speaker 3>probably get up to eighteen hundred seats on it and

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<v Speaker 3>it's right on the water. We're just but it's been

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<v Speaker 3>hard to open it because no one is building in

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<v Speaker 3>safety and when you go it's just temporary. Well rebuild

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<v Speaker 3>it's like thirty days ninety days. Now we need like

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<v Speaker 3>three to five years and there's no box to check.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So like running around building and safety for two years

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<v Speaker 3>and fire and health and everybody else. But they've been great.

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<v Speaker 3>They've they've accommodated everything. It's just unique. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>anyone's done that before. Wow, it's pretty cool. Look at

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<v Speaker 3>you throwing around d G deco decomposed. Look at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry Saturday, you learned things on this show. Sorry if

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<v Speaker 3>you expected not to today, but you did. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful to look at too. It's like bright.

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<v Speaker 1>It did really nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean if you feel like you're you're in

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<v Speaker 3>the park, but it's not sand. Yeah, but it has

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<v Speaker 3>some similar concept, but it drains it's easy to maintain

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<v Speaker 3>and it reflects. It doesn't like you're an asshalt right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So the heat just bounces right off and it's it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>This this absorbs it. It would be much more. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>much more people friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool. We come back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about your barbecue tray and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing for the upcoming holiday. But I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>us to catch up because it had been so long

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<v Speaker 2>and there's so much going on. You guys continue to grow,

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<v Speaker 2>and we need to keep these heritage places. Man, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's imperative. Hey, Kayla, she's reaching for the food. Next segment.

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<v Speaker 2>She's always hungry. We're gonna keep reaching.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you do hanging out with Michael Angaro San

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<v Speaker 2>Pedro Fish Market. You can find out more at San

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<v Speaker 2>Pedrofish dot com, San pedrofish dot Com, where she brought

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<v Speaker 2>so much food and it smells fantastic. But I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, I usually wait till I'm on the air

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<v Speaker 2>to eat, so my reaction is right there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't that that that, you know, just this, the wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>smell of this is it's very, very enticing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>And this is your barbecue tray. It's available July fourth

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<v Speaker 2>through the sixth. It is in Long Beach and it's

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<v Speaker 2>sixty nine ninety nine. It's so what am I looking at?

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<v Speaker 2>What part of this is that tray? I'm a little

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<v Speaker 3>I only saw it on our social media. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>pulled pork, there's a cubosa sausage, and then it's our

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<v Speaker 3>normal shrimp tray, which is a veggies, potatoes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>belot of po tomato onions, shrimp, there's corn on the cob.

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<v Speaker 3>And then what we added to this that makes it

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<v Speaker 3>unique is because in the spirit of barbecuing and fourth

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<v Speaker 3>of July is the pulled pork and this Carolina honey

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<v Speaker 3>barbecue sauce, which I actually hadn't tried to write. Now

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<v Speaker 3>it's really good. It's a great it's a great accompaniment

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<v Speaker 3>to this and it brings out the flavor in a

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<v Speaker 3>different way. So it's awesome. And yeah, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>only available on the fourth, fifth, and the sixth, only

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<v Speaker 3>in the Long Beach location, so if you don't, if

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<v Speaker 3>you go to Pedro, you can still get great tray,

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<v Speaker 3>you just won't be able to get this specific one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is insanely good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything you could possibly want in one tray and then

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<v Speaker 2>the bread even.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a great deal too. I mean, easily feed

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<v Speaker 3>four people with this. I mean, unless you're super hungry,

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<v Speaker 2>You could easily listen. Can I deal with it myself? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. Yeah, even Craft Mac and Cheese says that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a family of four, so so I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But just the balance in flavor of all these things

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<v Speaker 2>come together, I mean, I'm not surprised. You guys just

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best of the best. I mean, the top

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<v Speaker 2>is the highest tier that you can think about when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to seafood is what you get at San Pedro.

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<v Speaker 3>Are things always been to let the customer pick out

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<v Speaker 3>their own seafood and make their own trays. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was maybe six years ago. My uncle Tommy's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the founders. You know, he's still around. I

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<v Speaker 3>just passed him when I was leaving with this. He's

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's eighty two, eighty three this year. He's

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<v Speaker 3>still there. Good on him every day and he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>we should put let people buy a sausage, and we

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<v Speaker 3>should let people buy a bacon, And then he put

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<v Speaker 3>all these things in the fish case, like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if that's across contamination. I don't sure what we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing here, but it was crazy. People started buying it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the corn and the cop which we'd had

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<v Speaker 3>corn in the cop forever, but we never offered it

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<v Speaker 3>as something you could add to the shrimp tray. So

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<v Speaker 3>just moving it into the seafood case all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>total selling tons of it. And I'm like, I had

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<v Speaker 3>I really didn't see that coming. But that's his thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always looking at what can we test, what we

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<v Speaker 3>can try. Now, we brought in a lot of a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people with the kitchen and back kitchen experience

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<v Speaker 3>and restaurant experience from different different companies, and they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of looked at it and added a whole different layer

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<v Speaker 3>to it, like that pulled pork is something I never

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<v Speaker 3>would have thought to try. But we're cooking it ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>and then adding it to the train. It's it's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I ask where you guys are getting bread from

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<v Speaker 3>right now? We're using a local baker that we've used forever,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the family places in San Pedro. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure fantastic is fantastic? You know, we were talking earlier

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<v Speaker 3>about Monterey the challenges. I'm not sure how we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to transport it up there. So we're talking to other

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<v Speaker 3>bakers and trying to find a match because we have

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<v Speaker 3>to find a way to make it available six hours away,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know how it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's tough, especially when you're growing, and you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have always seemed to grow properly. You know, you put

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<v Speaker 2>push the COVID out because nobody could see that going.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what I'm saying, growing is difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>size something that you that people that's beloved.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that for us, the well, yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot there. We were fortunate with COVID because the

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<v Speaker 3>main location in sant Peedro, all the seating was already outside,

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<v Speaker 3>so we just had to move tables apart and put

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<v Speaker 3>partitions up and we it gave us an unexpected advantage,

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<v Speaker 3>so we still did pretty well once it started to

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<v Speaker 3>loosen up. And then you know also and when it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't and you couldn't go in there, we just said

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<v Speaker 3>we got to try this third party thing. The funny

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<v Speaker 3>part about it was we we did and this might

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<v Speaker 3>have been what we were talking about services, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like door Dash and grub up. What we did and

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is what we would have been talking

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<v Speaker 3>about last time I was here, was we said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>here's the thing. I don't want to we don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to make money in the situation, but we got to

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<v Speaker 3>keep people employed and we have vendors that need that

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<v Speaker 3>we have to buy problem from. So we created a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty a nineteen ninety nine twenty dollars basically tray of

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<v Speaker 3>our shrimp tray that could feed a family of four,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just pushed it through the door Dash and

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<v Speaker 3>grub Hub and luber Eats, and that worked out really

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<v Speaker 3>really well. And what the funny part about it was

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<v Speaker 3>here we are in San Pedro, we've been there forever.

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<v Speaker 3>The most of the people in the community didn't visit

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<v Speaker 3>us because it's too crowded. They don't want to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with the lines. But all of a sudden they're like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get it through door dash or grub Hub, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>is this what everyone's waiting the line for. They had

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<v Speaker 3>no idea this is what we're serving.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane. Yeah, that happens a lot. Some of the

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<v Speaker 2>closest places to me I visit the least. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the way you know it can be sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's like you get. One of the things we

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<v Speaker 3>would hear is I wouldn't wait in line a line

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<v Speaker 3>like this anywhere but Disneyland. So I think that drives

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people away unless they've driven one hundred miles.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have a lot of customers coming from Phoenix

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<v Speaker 3>and Vegas for the day going back home. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>why we think our Monterey project is going to be successful,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's a ton of people already in Monterey that

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<v Speaker 3>our customers making the drive that we'll be able to

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<v Speaker 3>offer something in their backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a huge fan of Disneyland. We have passes and

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<v Speaker 2>we go with our family all the time. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan, and I think that there are things worth

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for. I don't normally wait and line long lines

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<v Speaker 2>for food. I would wait in line for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the fork reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose always nice to see you, my friend, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that things are going so well. The growth,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things are always exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>The on Facebook, San Pedro Fish website, San Pedro Fish

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<v Speaker 2>of course, San Pedro Fish Market is you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a staple here in southern California. You'll find them the

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<v Speaker 2>same on Instagram as well. But check that out. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to see this.

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<v Speaker 3>Also Amazon Prime, you can watch our TV show called Kingfish.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I forgot to mention I had that note as well.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that going?

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<v Speaker 3>It's going on? I think Amazon doesn't share a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of data with us, but it's still. Oh, it's so on.

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<v Speaker 3>Its streaming. It's also we're going to be moving at

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<v Speaker 3>the YouTube so we have a little more control. And

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<v Speaker 3>you can watch my podcast Fish Factor, which is also

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<v Speaker 3>on the San Pego Fish YouTube channel which we toss

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<v Speaker 3>on how we made it and all the background and

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<v Speaker 3>who the producers aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I would have plugged that more. Oh, no worries.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's good to see you and we got to

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<v Speaker 2>do this more often. Man, this is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>To get this.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to go check out the website because they

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<v Speaker 2>have everything there san pedrofish dot com. You can look

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<v Speaker 2>and you can see that they have their barbecue tray

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<v Speaker 2>sixty nine ninety nine serves two to four people depending

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<v Speaker 2>on if they're me or a normal person. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is only available at July fourth through the sixth, and

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<v Speaker 2>just you pull ash sausage, pulled pork corn on the cob, coleslaw,

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<v Speaker 2>the garlic bread of course, homemade Carolina gold barbecue sauce

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<v Speaker 2>on the side. Just fantastic. The flavors are just spot

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<v Speaker 2>on and Mary with every note in there, i'd you

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<v Speaker 2>like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to see you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to be here.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to the Fork Report with Nil Sevadra on

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<v Speaker 1>We are coming sliding out of June and into July.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe it? That is happening?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm always joke about how the minute you hit summer,

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<v Speaker 2>we're in the holidays and everybody goes, hey, you're pushing

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<v Speaker 2>things along too far. I say, okay, sliding on a

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<v Speaker 2>June now. But I've asked Michael Longaro from San Pedro

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<v Speaker 2>Fish Market to stick around because I totally neglected to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about some of the other projects that you've got

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<v Speaker 2>going on that people can enjoy, the podcast and the

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<v Speaker 2>TV show and the like. Plus this food is just

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<v Speaker 2>so fantastic. A reminder to check out the website at

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<v Speaker 2>San Pedro Fish dot com San pedrofish dot com. The

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<v Speaker 2>barbecue tray in Long Beach only a veil bowl at

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<v Speaker 2>the Long Beach location July fourth through the sixth. This

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<v Speaker 2>barbecue tray, it's fantastic. Got my absolute seal of approval.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing by the look on your face, Kaylea the same. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's giving me the look like you don't even have

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<v Speaker 2>to ask.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just grateful that he bought to go boxes. Use

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be eating this. This was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you go Sunday Monday Tuesday, and I figured, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is that the spice even without the sauce on it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just in its own lovely juice as a

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<v Speaker 2>spot on.

423
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<v Speaker 3>And you could also if you go to the website,

424
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<v Speaker 3>or you can go I think directly to San Pedro

425
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<v Speaker 3>dot Fish, but it'll link from the website too. You

426
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<v Speaker 3>can buy our trays through gold Belly and we ship

427
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<v Speaker 3>them all over the country.

428
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, ready to cook?

429
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<v Speaker 3>So you got you want to cook it within a

430
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<v Speaker 3>day or two of receiving it because it's all fresh

431
00:18:57.039 --> 00:18:59.079
<v Speaker 3>seafoods and you can't freeze it because the veggies and

432
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<v Speaker 3>potatoes are not in it. Yeah, but you can get

433
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<v Speaker 3>there's a whole bunch of different combinations with crab, lobster, shrimp, fish,

434
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<v Speaker 3>and you can I think there's a couple of additions

435
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<v Speaker 3>you can put on there and we'll ship it anywhere

436
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<v Speaker 3>in the country.

437
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<v Speaker 2>And gold Belly is really it's like the premiere flavors

438
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<v Speaker 2>of all these different areas and they managed to figure

439
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<v Speaker 2>out ways to get the best of the best to

440
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<v Speaker 2>you no matter where you are.

441
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<v Speaker 3>Makes a great Christmas present for everybody.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the local places like a cake you want

443
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<v Speaker 2>on the East coast or something like cheesecake.

444
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

445
00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:32.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, I get brisket from Texas or ribs from

446
00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City and just send stuff all over insane. Did

447
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<v Speaker 3>you do this?

448
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, so it's an honor man, because if your

449
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<v Speaker 2>name is in Thatchol, that's because you have something that

450
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<v Speaker 2>is unique and regional that people want other places.

451
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<v Speaker 4>You.

452
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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of that, when when the news came out that

453
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<v Speaker 3>we were getting the news reported us as being shut down,

454
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<v Speaker 3>they didn't report it for the most part of us

455
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<v Speaker 3>moving so I started. So we had to do a

456
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<v Speaker 3>lot of course correction on that time. You know, we're

457
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<v Speaker 3>still open, we're still here, and then we did. It

458
00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:01.079
<v Speaker 3>was fine, but as interesting, what I'm noticing is a

459
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<v Speaker 3>lot of copycat places popping up from Bakersfield to Inland,

460
00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.240
<v Speaker 3>the Empire, to like all over the place, thinking well,

461
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<v Speaker 3>they're not there anymore, so we could sell these world

462
00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:10.720
<v Speaker 3>famous strom trades for ourself. I'm like, hold on, and

463
00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:12.880
<v Speaker 3>people say I went to your new location in Murrietta,

464
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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I even know who that is.

465
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<v Speaker 1>So are they are the names similar enough?

466
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're calling them. They'll call them San Pedro Trays,

467
00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.279
<v Speaker 3>San Pedro Famous fish trades or shrimp trays and It's

468
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<v Speaker 3>sad because I own the IP so I would rather

469
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<v Speaker 3>have a way to partner with a lot of these companies,

470
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<v Speaker 3>but the way the laws are written, you have to

471
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<v Speaker 3>tell them to stop first to protect your intellectual property.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Which sucks because people don't understand that.

473
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<v Speaker 3>I want to support these mom and pop places and

474
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<v Speaker 3>help them grow and it helps us. It could be Synergis,

475
00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.319
<v Speaker 3>but you've got to do the season desist thing and

476
00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:41.480
<v Speaker 3>try to talk to them, and that's you have to

477
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<v Speaker 3>cereal and you don't want to do it.

478
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<v Speaker 2>But people don't understand that you will lose your trademark

479
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<v Speaker 2>if you don't defend it exactly right. And people don't

480
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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I used to do all the trademarking

481
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<v Speaker 2>for KFI as well. Did you really Yeah? I had to,

482
00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:54.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, in my management. I had to cover all that.

483
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<v Speaker 2>And maybe people think that you're just being a big

484
00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.680
<v Speaker 2>mean corporation and you're like, no, if I don't do this,

485
00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.960
<v Speaker 2>then anybody and everybody gets it and all the stuff

486
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<v Speaker 2>I've worked for.

487
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, snick, Like I said, next year is going to

488
00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:07.960
<v Speaker 3>be seventy years if I mentioned that, but we are

489
00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:09.960
<v Speaker 3>seventieth anniversary, right, So I was like, I have to

490
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<v Speaker 3>protect the legacy we built. So it's kind of lame,

491
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<v Speaker 3>but it is what it is. You don't have a choice.

492
00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:16.799
<v Speaker 3>But like if we were talking about the web series,

493
00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:18.359
<v Speaker 3>so if you go to Amazon Prime, you watch it.

494
00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Go search for Kings of Fish if you don't have

495
00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:23.039
<v Speaker 3>an Amazon Prime. We have actual seven seasons of the

496
00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:26.640
<v Speaker 3>show that started nine years ago. I think today maybe

497
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<v Speaker 3>it launched. And why that significant is we were only

498
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<v Speaker 3>doing for social media's little four minute episodes five minute

499
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<v Speaker 3>episodes with the four story arc, the first ones we

500
00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:36.960
<v Speaker 3>came out with in July. I guess it's twenty eighteen,

501
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<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen.

502
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<v Speaker 1>Hold that thought.

503
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<v Speaker 2>I just noticed we're up against the clock because it

504
00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:43.799
<v Speaker 2>went so late last time. And then stick around. We

505
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<v Speaker 2>got Michael Longaro with us from San Pedro Fish Market,

506
00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:54.599
<v Speaker 2>the home of the famous trays. So stick around. We'll

507
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<v Speaker 2>talk more when we return. You've been listening to the

508
00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Fork Report. You can always hear us live on KFI

509
00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.559
<v Speaker 2>AM six forty two to five pm on Saturday and

510
00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:07.319
<v Speaker 2>anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app. You know, food

511
00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:10.079
<v Speaker 2>just brings us all together. You know, I get the

512
00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.640
<v Speaker 2>best compliment ever is people will say, you know, I'm

513
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<v Speaker 2>not a foodie. I don't like to cook nothing, but

514
00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I do love it. And you know, listening to the

515
00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:20.799
<v Speaker 2>show because it's positive, it makes me hungry and I

516
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:23.519
<v Speaker 2>get to hear of interesting people and I'm like, that's

517
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<v Speaker 2>why I do it.

518
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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly why I do it.

519
00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:28.799
<v Speaker 2>And right now we're hanging out with Michael Angaro from

520
00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:32.799
<v Speaker 2>San Pedro Fish Market and you know they've been around

521
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<v Speaker 2>for seventy years. That to put that in perspective, Disneyland

522
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<v Speaker 2>is celebrating his seventieth right now, now one hundred years

523
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<v Speaker 2>of Walt and his business. But as far as Disneyland

524
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<v Speaker 2>is concerned, so that's you know, so it's pretty pretty. Oh,

525
00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:54.279
<v Speaker 2>you can pop your mic on. I'm sorry, bored up,

526
00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:57.640
<v Speaker 2>just stepped away from it.

527
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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I'm back.

528
00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Look at you. You're like, you know, I run restaurants, man,

529
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

530
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<v Speaker 3>I don't. If I wish if I could just push

531
00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:08.319
<v Speaker 3>a button and make them work, I would everything was

532
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<v Speaker 3>a microphone. Yeah, Disney's a cool play. I mean, we

533
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<v Speaker 3>we have. We did the study of just asking people

534
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<v Speaker 3>in a survey and it turns out our customer base

535
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<v Speaker 3>that visits us right they're driving one hundred miles or

536
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<v Speaker 3>they're coming in from out of town. The two places

537
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<v Speaker 3>they go is us in Disneyland and the same like

538
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<v Speaker 3>more than sixty or seventy percent of the customers we

539
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<v Speaker 3>talked to that's their two destinations.

540
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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

541
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<v Speaker 3>We didn't know, you know, but the more you look

542
00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.960
<v Speaker 3>at technology and social media allows you to run these polls,

543
00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:34.759
<v Speaker 3>track or we had that at one point one of

544
00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:36.480
<v Speaker 3>the credit card companies we had would give us a

545
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<v Speaker 3>map like thoughts on a map, like here's the clusters

546
00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:40.200
<v Speaker 3>are your customer basis And I was like, wow, that's

547
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<v Speaker 3>one hundred miles we had. We didn't realize that we

548
00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:45.640
<v Speaker 3>were drawing that far out everywhere. Wow, I don't. I mean,

549
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<v Speaker 3>I had to say, we're really not a restaurant at

550
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<v Speaker 3>this point. We're more of a destination seafood experience. And

551
00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.200
<v Speaker 3>that's really how we think about ourselves now.

552
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<v Speaker 2>And you know what's interesting that came out of the

553
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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic was people want experiences with their food.

554
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

555
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that could be whether it's a manufactured experience

556
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:06.160
<v Speaker 2>of some kind where you're like, hey, this is this

557
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:08.359
<v Speaker 2>is our vibe or what we you know, kind of

558
00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.839
<v Speaker 2>the insides or and what the feel is of it.

559
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<v Speaker 2>And then there's you know, what you've built, which is

560
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>making outstanding food in a way that's approachable.

561
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<v Speaker 3>And what's interesting that we did again by accident and

562
00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:27.880
<v Speaker 3>we just kind of evolved, is we allow people to

563
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<v Speaker 3>pick their own combination of seafood and that was the

564
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:32.880
<v Speaker 3>experience for them. So at one point, and they don't

565
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<v Speaker 3>do this anymore, but Instagram would list the top ten

566
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<v Speaker 3>most Instagram restaurants by geotagging, and we would be in

567
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<v Speaker 3>the top ten. You know, it would be Cafe Dumont,

568
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:43.319
<v Speaker 3>Cat's Deli US And I was like, how do we

569
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<v Speaker 3>get in this? But there were so many people that

570
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<v Speaker 3>are like, I can't believe the size of this tray

571
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:48.720
<v Speaker 3>with all this seafood overflowing, and they were picturing and

572
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:51.160
<v Speaker 3>showing their friends and family and geotagging, and I think

573
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<v Speaker 3>we had an advantage of three thousand seats over the

574
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<v Speaker 3>other restaurants because you know, the volume of clicks was high. Sure,

575
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<v Speaker 3>but I was like, we were on Time magazine at CNN,

576
00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:00.720
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, we weren't trying, you know, it was like,

577
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:02.160
<v Speaker 3>we're just doing what we do. But it was a

578
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.000
<v Speaker 3>really good testament to the customer fan base that we had,

579
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<v Speaker 3>which is really cool.

580
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<v Speaker 2>You know, so called trying is only going to go

581
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.240
<v Speaker 2>so far. The consistency of just wanting to serve.

582
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

583
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the hospitality.

584
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<v Speaker 2>If you remove the hospitality out of the restaurant industry,

585
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<v Speaker 2>it's gone.

586
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.000
<v Speaker 3>I think the hospitality and the story are the two

587
00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:25.519
<v Speaker 3>main things. Like if so, we do the best we

588
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:27.799
<v Speaker 3>can with hospital and we are constantly working to improve

589
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 3>on that. But at the same time, if you had

590
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<v Speaker 3>three seafood restaurants next to each other, which at one

591
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<v Speaker 3>time we did, like when we're in San Pedro, all

592
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.240
<v Speaker 3>these places open next to us and copycass they weren't

593
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<v Speaker 3>supposed to, like it was in their least that they

594
00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:39.839
<v Speaker 3>couldn't do it. They're supposed to sell tempera and sushi,

595
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.039
<v Speaker 3>but they copied everything we did. And it was like,

596
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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I'm not even going to push back

597
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.079
<v Speaker 3>on it. Because we had so many customers we couldn't handle.

598
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.400
<v Speaker 3>They needed an alternative so they would come back when

599
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:50.759
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't as crowded, So that actually worked our advantage.

600
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<v Speaker 3>But we realized was you could compete against all of

601
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<v Speaker 3>them based on the story that we had, and people

602
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:57.960
<v Speaker 3>didn't know we had been there for decades and decades.

603
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<v Speaker 3>They didn't know my grandfather was originally a bookie. They

604
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:02.480
<v Speaker 3>didn't know that's why he started the business. They didn't know.

605
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:04.559
<v Speaker 3>They thought, you know, they just thought we were just

606
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:08.400
<v Speaker 3>random seafood swap meat. So Kings of Fish evolved out

607
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:09.960
<v Speaker 3>of that. It was a way to not just tell

608
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<v Speaker 3>our story, which we're experimenting on social media, but actually

609
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 3>own it, produce it, and be able to point it

610
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 3>where we wanted to point it so people could see,

611
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.119
<v Speaker 3>like you can be part of the story. You can

612
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.119
<v Speaker 3>come in on we're filming, you could be in the storyline.

613
00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:23.519
<v Speaker 3>Then that's what we're doing now with all of our

614
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<v Speaker 3>business partners. It's like anybody that we buy from, our

615
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 3>tech people, our suppliers, We're happy to include you in,

616
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.079
<v Speaker 3>but we do need some help with that, so we're

617
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<v Speaker 3>like looking for them, like if you invest in the show,

618
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.160
<v Speaker 3>you you can be sponsored by or we can incorporate

619
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<v Speaker 3>in the storyline, you know, like Corona or Modello. Yeah, yeah,

620
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:42.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, I could see us. I'm flying out it.

621
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<v Speaker 3>We ran out of product and you know someone's coming

622
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<v Speaker 3>in with a parachute dropping it off. We can create

623
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:48.839
<v Speaker 3>any storyline work because we're self producing it, you know.

624
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.559
<v Speaker 3>So it's really fun and it gives us a place

625
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.519
<v Speaker 3>to be creative. And then's for the fourth generation that's

626
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:55.880
<v Speaker 3>coming up. I don't want to sling fish. Great, we're

627
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.839
<v Speaker 3>also doing this whole media thing. We have a whole

628
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<v Speaker 3>it thing. So my nephew now handles all of our it.

629
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<v Speaker 3>My daughter's our executive assistant. My other daughter is working.

630
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 3>She's actually an executive assistant from Hoda Coppy and her company.

631
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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

632
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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, if you ever decide to come back

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<v Speaker 3>to California, I could do some help with the media

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<v Speaker 3>stuff since you're helping her build her media brand. So like,

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<v Speaker 3>it creates opportunities for the next generation. It doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be slinging fish.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it interesting though, how a restaurant business is not

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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant business anymore. You have to have your hand

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<v Speaker 2>in everything else, Yeah, to remind people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you're in control. Yeah, so you want to

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<v Speaker 3>own as much as it as you can.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The expansion gets us into a situation where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we got to borrow money, can't to build a fifty

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<v Speaker 3>five thousand square foot restaurant. That's twenty or thirty million dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>not like there might be some cans dug in somebody's backyard,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's gonna be that much. It's might be twenty

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars. You know, it's a joking. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 3>got to We had to bring in people that understand

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<v Speaker 3>how to finance restaurants in a different way. And even

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<v Speaker 3>these guys like one of my my my business partners,

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<v Speaker 3>Albert Dwix, great guy in New York, comes in, he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>I do a lot of real estate development New York,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've never thought about forty nine years on the lease,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the way you have to think differently, time horizons

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<v Speaker 3>so long. The banks don't even know how to think

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<v Speaker 3>about it. Even we don't, like we have to project out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well you get to year thirty, what's the shrimp cocktail cost?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It could be fifty dollars with inflation,

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<v Speaker 3>that's impossible, but it was twenty five cents when we started. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so so to think about those things are much much different.

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<v Speaker 3>But again you're not you know, you got to get

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<v Speaker 3>outside of the operational part all of that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they have a forty nine year projection for for the

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<v Speaker 3>investors to think through. And I'm like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what's going to happen in five minutes, never mind five

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<v Speaker 3>years to forty nine, you know. So it's it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a learning experience for us, but that's part of growing

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<v Speaker 3>the legacy for the next generations.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm glad this has been a really fun conversation

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<v Speaker 2>just because the insight to all of it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys already have everything else down the food, that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're constantly learning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like Fish Factor and Kings of Fish, they're

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<v Speaker 3>the way to tell those stories and show people behind

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes. Like I loved, well, I shouldn't say I loved.

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<v Speaker 3>I bared through watching The Bear. Hard to watch for

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<v Speaker 3>some hard to watch it, yet accurate, especially the whole

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<v Speaker 3>everybody told you my whole family's Italian. So I'm watching

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<v Speaker 3>it going, yeah, that's Christmas Eve. But it's really accurate

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<v Speaker 3>to see, you know, see somebody tell the behind the

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<v Speaker 3>scenes story of what the stress is like. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>because that customers when they're wait for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>they assume you're just out to get them. I'll try

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<v Speaker 3>to help you, man, Yeah, but they have to really

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<v Speaker 3>be on top of the hospitality part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, the storytelling brings them in, the hospitality keeps

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<v Speaker 3>them coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's always always great to spend time with you

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<v Speaker 2>and chat.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that things are still going with full Bore

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<v Speaker 2>seventy years later. Michael Angaro uh from the famous San

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<v Speaker 2>Pedro Fish Market and you can find out more at

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<v Speaker 2>San pedrofish dot com and on all the social media's.

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<v Speaker 2>Check out the shows as well as the podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see you again. Man, anything we can do, you

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<v Speaker 2>let us know when any of these changes happened. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>make sure people.

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<v Speaker 1>Know about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate it, Man, great to be here, Thank you, Good

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<v Speaker 3>to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on

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