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Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome in. It is time for another

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edition of Full Court Press. As always, we have to

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recap the night before. I had a good night for

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clients and I ended up playing one play. It was Binghamton.

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They found a way to win that game out right,

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So that was a nice winner for me. But Rob Bino,

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I ruined the parlay, And of course I was at

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the game that I used for the parlay, Floida Golf

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Coast in North Florida, and so I want to come

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on and acknowledge that, but also give a couple takeaways

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from that game that you might be able to use

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in the a Sun tournament next week. So Floda Golf

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Coast at a nine point lead at halftime, I kind

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of was like, all right, we're just you know, it

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kind of felt like one of those games where we

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would sort of just maintain that and win by nine

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or ten points. They got Not only did they lose

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the second half, they lost the game after being up

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nine and a half. And my takeaways were North Florida

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did not look like a six and twenty three team

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played much better than like even just watching them play

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did not look like a six and twenty three team,

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and that Florida Gulf Coast team is very average. In hindsight,

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I wish I didn't lay points with them, because that's

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just we've kind of talked about it at times. Not

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the best basketball team, and I think they had a

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little bit of a fraudulent win streak, so I would

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be willing to fade.

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Speaker 2: Then.

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Speaker 1: The other thing you guys need to know is this

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is the first year that the Atlantic Sun is not

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going to play campus site tournament venues. However, two of

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the campus sites from the Atlantic Sun are hosting portions

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of the tournament. So what I found out last night

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is Jacksonville is hosting the tournament at I believe it's

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Swisher Gym and Jacksonville UNF Arena and North Florida, and

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then I think the final they may use like Veterans Memorial,

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like the Big Arena downtown. So it'll be interesting to

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see how that conference tournament plays out. Being a neutral site.

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I don't think they're gonna let like JU and UNF

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are not going to be allowed to play at their

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home venue. So you know, we learned something last night. Stan,

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who's always in the chat. Great to meet you, came

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out for the game. We had a great time, So yeah,

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it was it was a good night in North Florida

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or in Jacksonville at North Florida. I wish we had

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a better result in the parlay, but shout out to you,

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rob being no great call on Montana State. Hopefully some

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people just played that straight because of course the FGCU

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game was over before Montana State tipped off, and what else,

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how did your Thursday night go outside of the Montana

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State winner?

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Speaker 2: So Montana State was part of a three and one

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Thursday night and it missed four and O was missed

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by one point. The loser was the Idaho team total

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over seventy eight and a half. They got the seventy eight.

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So we got stuck right on the edge of the

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cliff with that one. But otherwise Montana State got home

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Jacksonville Jacksonville State. Excuse me, you got a little lucky there, Adam,

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because the overtime is the place where underdogs go to die.

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And sure enough, Delaware. The reason why I made the

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play was basically, it's a six man rotation where everybody's

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got to go forty and boy, Delaware played terrific basketball,

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gritty basketball for forty minutes and then when overtime took hold,

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you found out that they're a little bit fatigued at

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this point. Another long trip to Jacksonville State, which is

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in Alabama. We've talked about CUSA trips. A lot of

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credit to Delaware last night, but I benefited from the

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extra five minutes because Jacksonville had a lot. Jacksonville State,

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excuse me, had a lot left in the tank and

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Delaware did not. And any other play you know, why

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not go back to one of your favorites, cal Poly

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team total over eighty one and a half, they get

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to one hundred and two. Probably should have played it

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a little stronger than I did, but recap here with

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Binghamton the double. The CBB Firepower Package goes four and

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one again last night after a seven and zero the

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previous night, So eleven won the last two nights. Those

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of you who just picked up and joined or purchased

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a package either three day or full season remainder of season,

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we're off to a seven and excuse me, an eleven

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and one start here, So good news on the package front, Adam.

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Hopefully we continue that or we'll try to continue that

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here tonight.

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Speaker 1: Great day to a never a better day than right

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now to sign up, because I've already locked in a

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five percenter tonight and it's Friday, so it's essentially the

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weekend package. You'll get all Saturday and Sunday, and Rob

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this is we got to get into it. Oh before

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we get into it, shout out to our chat because

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Garth had the team total under in Missouri Kansas City,

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which hit and our pal that played cal Poly, we

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talked about it on the show on the show yesterday,

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no reason to not think cal Poly would would win

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that game comfortably, and they won the game comfortably, dropped

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one hundred on Long Beach State, so you win with

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the team total and I forget who that was in

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the chat, but someone had Polly minus five and a

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half for a winner as well. So we are going

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to get into it today. Garth, I see you in there,

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and he already wants to talk about the sun Belt,

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which we could do the whole show. I honestly, we

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can do the whole hour on the sun Belt today,

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but we've got to start with one of the biggest

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games of the weekend. So let's head out to Champagne, Illinois.

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First feature game, Michigan Illinois feature game Robino and arguably

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one of the best games of the entire Big Ten season.

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Right here, you got Michigan as a short road favorite,

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Illinois obviously gonna be tough on their home court. What

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do you do with Michigan and Illinois. We know it's

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going to be a great game.

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Speaker 2: You know, I want in the worst way to be

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on the home team here Illinois because I just feel

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as if Michigan is and rightfully so. Listen, in Michigan's

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done what they've done this year, they deserve everybody's utmost respect.

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But I feel like this separation of respect heading into

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this game between media, written material, et cetera, et cetera,

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all the way to the networks, right.

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Speaker 3: They just seem to be all over the Michigan side.

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Speaker 2: And for me, when you go through this, Adam, and

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of course when you respond, you could look at it

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and tell me what you think of this. But personnel wise,

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to me, Illinois is a team with two you know,

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I don't know if I can call Boswell an NBA

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point guard, but let's say this, they have two elite

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point guards at this point in time. I think they

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discovered Wagler along the way when Boswell got hurt. You

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come back with the two Ivasich guys who can both

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drag Mara away from the rim because Illinois two seven

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footer shoot threes. I know Mara likes to plant himself

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under the rim and use the seven three, seven to four,

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whatever it is. But maybe somebody else is going to

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have to try and deter the seven footers from shooting

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threes here. If a couple of them go, it makes

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life difficult for Michigan. Yes, Lindeborg is a tremendous player

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NBA lottery pick. However, on the other side, playing the

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same position as him, basically as Mirkovich for Illinois, who's

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been dominant at times offensively, andres Stoyakovich, who's been dominant

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at times offensively, I mean ben Himarcus comes off the

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bench and basically can light it up from three hummerkous

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excuse me? So when I go through this, I just

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think Illinois's got as many options for scoring here a Michigan.

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Does they match up? Well, They've got the same type

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of length, et cetera, et cetera. The problem I run

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into in this game is the difference in tempo. Bothers

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me a little bit Michigan's the fastest tempo team in

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a Big Ten. Illinois very very slow, moderate deliberate. I mean,

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their possession numbers are way down there as far as

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pace of play is concerned. Now, can they go ultra

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slow and take on the Michigan half court defense all

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game long without going through some sort of a scoring drought,

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we'll see. It seems like nobody really puts Illinois into

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a scoring drug or very rarely does that occur. Michigan's

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got the defensive ability to do so. So you'd rather

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have Illinois at least be a mid type tempo team

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where you know we're going to see some outlets, some breaks,

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maybe some opportunity. Brad Underwood maybe he'll coach it into

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them tonight. I'm not in on their meetings, but let's

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run when we get the chance, because we don't want

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to set up against these guys where Michigan's gonna go

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up and down the floor, get some easy buckets, et cetera,

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et cetera. Home floor means a lot in Champagne to me.

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But Michigan's been in tough venues before and might as

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well say it now, Adam, because we've talked about it

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since the Michigan State game.

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Speaker 3: When you get Michigan in this price range, it's.

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Speaker 2: Hard to ignore, so for me the side became more difficult.

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Speaker 3: Then the total Illinois is so efficient.

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down and it gets up and over fifty one point

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fifty eight. There's been a push towards that over since

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the overnight opened at two and excuse me, one fifty

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five and a half two and a half point moved

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towards the total. I still think it might get over.

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to eighty in most instances, or at least high seventies,

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Speaker 3: Michigan from doing so.

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Speaker 2: So for me, I think my strongest lean here is

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going to be toward over one fifty eight. If you're

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shopping really really well, there's four or five six, one

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fifty seven and a half's out there that you can

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still pick off. So I think for intent of this

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analysis and time of day we're doing this, I would

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use one fifty seven and a half as my stance

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here on this game. Michigan Illinois up and over one

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fifty seven and a half. Great game, just a little

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bit of difference in tempo style. Otherwise, I think Illinois

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personnel wise matches up.

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Speaker 3: Really really well with Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Rob we joined forces for a eleven am over yesterday

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that that soared over in the Charleston Hampton games. So

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future game here. That's that's the way I look as well,

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would be toward the over now. Listen, Illinois is not

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a bad defensive team when you look at the when

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you look at the overall rankings, I don't think anyone

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looks at Illinois's as well, this is a bad defensive team,

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or they're not like they're you know, they they're on

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the kind of the fringe of the top thirty. I

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think most would say that's pretty good. But I don't

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think they defend the way that you need to defend

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to keep Michigan from scoring. If you look, it's very interesting.

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But to me, like the teams that Michigan has struggled

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to score on have not necessarily been the best defensive

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teams that they face. It's like TCU comes to mind

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that small you know, we've talked about them on the

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show a couple of times where they've got the really

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aggressive guards that are gonna just make life miserable, fear

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ball handlers like those. That's the type of team that

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tends to give Michigan trouble and that's not really what

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Illinois is gonna do. Illinois will play some zone. Michigan

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has no problem with zone. So for me, like I

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do think Michigan scores their sheriff points. I think, like

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again going back to what we you know, going back

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to our breakdown of Michigan Michigan state that you reference

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from a few weeks back, you know, you get Michigan

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in this price range, it's it's tough to pass up,

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like because I still think you look at Michigan and

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they're they're a cut above like almost anyone else in

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the country. And I still think I still think they're

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even a cut above Illinois, even with how good Illinois

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is offensively. But there's certainly like paths to victory for

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Illinois in this game as well. To the point where

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you know you talked about obviously the hype, home spot,

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tremendous crowd, definitely need to factor that in the fact

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that Illinois, if they could shoot it and and they're

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hot shooting the ball, like they could win a high

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scoring game. But for me, like I don't really want to,

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I don't really want to have to rely on Illinois

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sort of like playing out of their minds to cast

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your ticket because again, there's no wiggle room here, very

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little at least, Like you basically need Illinois to win

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to win the bet, and I'm not just not really

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comfortable doing that against Michigan, especially when you know how

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many times are you gonna be able to do that

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against Michigan, this Michigan team in a season, and you

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basically were able to do it last Saturday with Duke

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right taking Duke is the very very short dog and

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they and they won the game. But I'll argue that

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Duke was a much tougher matchup for Michigan than Illinois

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is in terms of being able to put the ball

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in the basket and play the game that they want

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to play. So Robino, I'm with you. Points in this

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game is if I was gonna bet this one, which

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I'm not, it would it would have to just be

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points in the over because it's just too it's too

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coin flip for me on the side, and I just

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did again, I feel like if you, if you play

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an under here, you're kind of praying on Illinois having

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a rough shooting night, and I wouldn't want to bet

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against that because they're home and it's a big spot

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for them. So I'll call it over with you as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Illinois has so many scoring options at him. If

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it's not Waggler, it can be Stoyakovic, it could be Murkovich.

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I mean, they've got plenty of options that Michigan's going

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to have to defend here. And to be honest with you,

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they didn't do a superior job defending Dukes guys the

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one intangible here And again, Elliott Caddou did just recently

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have an off night. And Elliot Caddou has been a

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real spark plug for this team. He helps that interior

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play because he stretches the defense out with the three

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point shooting that he's had this year. And Boswell may

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be one of the best hounds. I guess you would

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call him because when you said TCU guards bothered Michigan,

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and that triggered this thought that Boswell is that guy. Defensively,

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Caddo's going to have a somewhat tough time here unless

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Illinois is forced to pack it in against you know,

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Michigan's base because they can't handle him. But if that's

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not the case here, Elliot caddo is going to know

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he's being guarded tonight by Boswell. Now, of course, Michigan,

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just like I said about Illinois, has so many other

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options it may not matter, but I still think Elliot

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caddou has to be a factor in this game for

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Michigan to win, at least somewhat of a factor. So

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I'm gonna stick to total here because I just like

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the massive amount of offensive options that are on the

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floor here. And I do think I know I said

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earlier Illinois and of course statistically proven out that Illinois

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is a slower tempo team, but I do think they'll

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take their opportunities. I mean, having watched them play six, seven,

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eight times this year, they're not necessarily a snails pace

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maybe overall, you know, majority of the game they prefer

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half courts. Kind of the brat underwood Way since he

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was at Steven F. Austin years ago. But I think

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they're gonna take their opportunities to get out and go,

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especially on their own home floor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that should be a it's gonna be a great watch.

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Obviously the feature game of tonight, but there's a lot

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of other games, so let's move on. Well, like I said,

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I joked about it, but what a night for the

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Sun Belt Conference. I love that they do this. They've

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been doing this for years where they play everyone plays

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the final The final slate of Sun Belt games is

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always this Friday, and rob it is. It is arguably

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as impactful of any final slate of games because of

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the way they organize their conference tournament. I mean you're

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talking about you're talking about like potentially having to play

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two extra games. Some people would even have to, like

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their scenarios tonight, where a team with a loss might

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have to play like two additional games than they would

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have played had they won. Like that. That is how

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crazy the scenarios are in the Sunbelt. For two reasons.

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One it's a gauntlet format in the conference tournament, and

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two there's like six or seven teams with very similar records,

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so it's like there's a lot of different spots up

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for grabs. These are two teams. So let's go to

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Garth here, he says he got back on track last

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night with UMKC. Yes, that was a great call. He said,

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he's looking at the sun Belt tonight with Coastal and

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James Madison, and he likes the over one thirty nine

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and a half. So I'll let you talk about the total.

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I guess what I'll say real quick about Coastal Carolina

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overs is like so me personally, I found them to

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be kind of stagnant offensively at times where they will

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they will sort of stand around and like wait for

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someone to do something. I've noticed that with them at

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different points during the season. However, they do have some

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shot makers on this team. That's one thing if you're

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talking about you know, they've got guards that can can

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fill it up. Aj Dantler came over from Lemoyne. Guy

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plays no defense. He's just I mean, he would you know.

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The part of the reason Leamoyn had a hard time

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last years because they had a bunch of these scorers

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that just didn't do anything on the defensive end, and

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he was one of them. But I see he's caught

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on nicely at Coastal fifteen point seven points per game.

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He got another local guy, well not not really local,

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but I got confused it was Josh Beto was at BC.

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He's leading the team with seventeen points per game. And

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then Rashid Jones, who was my favorite from last year's

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team when I went down to Conway and I got

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to see this team play and pretty much knew they

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would be better this year than last year. He's the

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one that is just a big time shot maker. Could

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have two guys on him, he's gonna pull up and

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be able to put the ball in the basket. So

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talk to me about this game, about this total, because

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again I haven't loved the Coastal's floor spacing at times,

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and I don't think they run great offense, but they've

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got a trio of guards that can put the ball

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in the basket. And you know, if you can put

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the ball in the hoop, that is the name still

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the name of this game, Rob Above all out. So

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do you have any interest in the Side and Coastal

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James man Madison, and do you agree with Garth that

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there's going to be points in this one?

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Speaker 2: You know, just to start real quick here, Adam, this

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Sunbelt Final night is so crazy that it I don't

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know whatever time it was two thirty this morning, two

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thirty five am this morning, whatever, I had to take

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the X and just comment on how crazy this last

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night is going to be and how many things could

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change with the results in the Sunbelt tonight. And to

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your point, the Sun Belt is such a weird tournament

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that the number one through number four seeds, they'll get

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four days off before they even.

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Speaker 3: Have to play a game.

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Speaker 2: The tournament starts, they don't go until we have to

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make it through eight and nine and five and six

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and whatever, until the one through four even have to place.

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What's a huge advantage. I would guess if you're one

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through four and there's seven teams that could end up

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in that one through four tonight. So just a crazy,

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crazy frenzy night the sun Belt. It'll be fun to

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watch Madison and Coastal. I'm gonna guess that Garth is

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playing over because he's just playing the number one thirty

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nine and a half, because I find it hard myself

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to support a case for these two teams and the

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way that they play just getting to one forty. Fundamentally,

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they played once over Ady sixty seven to sixty five.

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James Madison wins. There's a little revenge on the Coastal

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Carolina side. If you're looking to play side, you might

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want to look at Coastal here they lost at home,

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or you could look at it the other way and say,

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James Madison beat them at home. They're certainly gonna beat

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them on their home floor. But over the course of

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the last eight nine games, Coastal Carolina is only four

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and four to the over where this total is concerned.

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In other words, four games over one thirty nine and

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a half, four games under one thirty nine and a half.

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James Madison four games over one thirty nine and a half,

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five games under in the last nine. So when you

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talked about Coastal being stagnant somewhat, they're just erratic as

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far as game.

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Speaker 3: Final scores are concerned.

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Speaker 2: Could be way up, there could be way down there.

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And both of these teams, in my estimation, are better

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defensive teams than they are offensive teams. And if you

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have the added element of scratching and cloying to move

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up in these standings. For Coastal they are one of

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those teams that could slide right into the top four

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they win tonight. It's possible for JMU they could slide

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into that five through eight category. Which earns, you know,

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five to six earns three days off, not four, but

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three or however many. So they both benefit from a

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win here. So I think when you have that in play,

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you get a little extra defensive effort. And they're already.

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To me, they're already the best units on the floor

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are going to be the defenses. So my guess is

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gonna be And I don't know this to be true,

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but I would say this to Gartha. I think that

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one thirty nine and a half is the reason why

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you're playing over to ask these two just to get

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to one forty from a fundamental standpoint in this particular situation,

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I'm not sure. I'm not going to talk you off,

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believe me. Just trying to play counter side here, I

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probably won't get. Of all the Sunbelt Games tonight, Adam,

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I would say that this is the one I didn't

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have marked as one to play.

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Speaker 3: Just too difficult to handicap.

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Speaker 2: So let's root for Garth. Let's get this thing up

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and over.

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Speaker 3: And see where the chips land.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that this was of all

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the Sunbelt Games, this was the one I was closest

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to on the number. I think it was at like

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six point one.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was very close to either. I want to say

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this has been in the five and a half to

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six and a half range, and you know, I guess

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I'll just close it out by going back to the

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first meeting. There was one hundred and thirty two points.

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You know, you could you could do. Another reason that may,

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you know, kind of helped Garth make his case is

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the first meeting one thirty two. Yet neither team shot

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the lights out like they Neither team shot like considerably

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well in that game. Both of these teams rebound the

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ball pretty good, So you got a couple of top

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one hundred rebounding teams. I think Coastal is like a

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top ten rebounding team. But they also I think they

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take I think they miss a good amount of shots too.

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Like that. That's been my issue with Coastal Carolina offensively

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at times, is like they take difficult shots and they

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don't really move the ball at all. So when you

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watch Coastal Carolina play, it is there is more standing

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around than any team I've seen, Like for in the

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context of rob good teams, good basketball team teams, I

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think we can both agree that Coastal Carolina should be

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in the mix when you're talking Sun Belt. They're a

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good team. They are one game off the lead in

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the league. They're in that group of seven teams that's

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either eleven and six or ten and seven in the

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sum about Conference this year, this team rarely they don't

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pass like they or it's like a pass is out

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of necessity, so there's zero ball movement and they take

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like every shot as a contested three or mid range shot.

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That's what makes it difficult to play the over in

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my opinion, because it is there are so many tough shots.

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But then you go back to last game and you're

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sitting there and you're like, well, you know, Coastal in

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that game shot thirty nine percent from the field, went

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seven for twenty nine from three, and it was only

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seven points off of this number. Right, Like a couple

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threes go in. I haven't looked, but it was a

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two point final. You get a little extension that would

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have gone over easily. So you know, maybe maybe the

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accumulation of second chance points and the frequency at which

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the shots go up the math might like math out

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to getting you over that number. But that's I guess

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my thing with Coastal, which is why I kind of

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have shied away from playing them, because they've got tough

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shot makers and I I like the way they defend

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and they're gritty. But to me, they are the type

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of team that can go six minutes without scoring the

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way they play, and that's what's gotten me out on

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Coastal in recent weeks. So I guess we'll just leave

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it at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, another thing just to add real quick, Adam. Offensively,

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both of these teams are in the three hundreds as

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far as offensive possession length is concerned, so they both

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drag it out. And I'll say this having followed Belmont

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for you know, as long as my son entered there

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fourteen years ago. Preston Spradland was a head coach against

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Belmont when he was with Morehead I think. And Preston

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Spradland is just a guy that likes to take the

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air out of the ball.

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00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 3: I mean, his career is the same.

480
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:58,039
Speaker 2: Everywhere he goes. Offensively, they will drain shot clock and

481
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,440
if that happens tonight, you may not get the possession.

482
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,519
Is necessarly an interesting game. And you know what, I

483
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:05,960
wouldn't put this. The first game was a two point game,

484
00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:08,319
I would not put overtime out of the realm of

485
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,359
possibility in that one, which helped me out with the

486
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,200
side last night. I could always help with a total

487
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,759
play it over.

488
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. It's that that to me

489
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,759
from a from a just a intriguing game standpoint, is

490
00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,599
way up there. I just I just with you, Rob,

491
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,000
I didn't have like a great way to get into

492
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:31,799
that from a side perspective, and I don't do much

493
00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:34,440
with total, So good luck. It will be rooting for

494
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,720
you either way. So good luck if you do decide

495
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,319
to play that. Someone in the chat said, looked like

496
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:41,799
you had fun last night. Yeah, North North Florida was awesome.

497
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,359
What a great little arena that a building was built

498
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,920
in nineteen ninety three. You would have never guessed it though.

499
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:53,400
They they amazing branding. They have that osprey a unf

500
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:57,759
or North Florida on every inch of that building. Like

501
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,319
if you were ever to look at a course like

502
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,480
branding your arena like the way it probably should be.

503
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,640
Like I go way too many places, Rob, where there's

504
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,599
like very little briand like I'm like, who plays here?

505
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,440
Who plays in this building? You know what I mean?

506
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,680
You're in that building, you had you you know who

507
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,559
plays there very clearly. But anyway, yeah, little six thousand seedter,

508
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,960
I really enjoyed that. But I'm gonna I'm gonna segue

509
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,759
into the next game. Here we have a donation because

510
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,559
Arci Colo wants to talk Akron Kent State. And I've

511
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:36,599
now been to ninety three venues, hundreds of games over

512
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,440
the years, over one hundred games in the last four

513
00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:42,920
years since I've started sort of documenting this journey, and

514
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,359
and still to this date, the the the hottest crowd

515
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,359
of any game and the hottest, like one of one

516
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,599
of the craziest atmospheres I've ever been in was with

517
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,640
Brian Power and Jeff Michaels at the Jar like three

518
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,720
four years ago when act in Kent State. We're both

519
00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:05,920
really good that these two fan bases hate each other.

520
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,160
There's almost always a fight of some sort, whether it

521
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,839
be between fans, whether it be between players. Earlier this

522
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,880
year in Akron, I believe there was a scuffle of

523
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,359
some sort with the players before for the game, which

524
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,519
Rob you know, I think has happened probably six years

525
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:26,039
in a row. At this point. These two fan bases

526
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:28,880
can't stand each other, They're twenty minutes away. The two

527
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,279
teams don't like each other. And to me again, they

528
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,440
that night in Akron, they probably sold four hundred too

529
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,200
many tickets. I literally think they oversold, like ga by

530
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,039
like four hundred. There was people standing on the running

531
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:48,079
track that's around that the upper ring, just trying to

532
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:50,759
get a look at the game. Yeah, as crazy of

533
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:53,440
an atmosphere as I've been in. And I don't think

534
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,759
it'll be any different at Kent State. Kent State a

535
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:59,720
little bit nicer, building, a little bigger. But I fully

536
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:03,319
ex Kent State to that game sold out at Akron.

537
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:05,400
I think this will probably be a sellout. I think

538
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,440
typically Akron Kent State is almost always like a sellout,

539
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:12,920
the best crowd you're gonna get all year, and these

540
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,279
are and Kent State's a team rob amazingly, this team

541
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:21,119
has not been a home underdog in like seven years,

542
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,920
which is crazy, Like that's crazy to me. I mean

543
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,200
Kent State has been you know, year and year out

544
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,119
in this they're good, like they're always up up toward

545
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,920
towards the top of the MAC. But that was shocking

546
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,279
to me that it's been like I think it's seven years.

547
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:37,039
It has been since Kent State has been an underdog

548
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,799
at home, and that is what they are here today

549
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:46,519
for this game with Akron. So I guess we go

550
00:29:46,599 --> 00:29:50,200
back to the first meeting between these two teams again,

551
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:54,359
that was an Akron home game, and Akron won that

552
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,319
game sixty nine to fifty two. It was a not

553
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,880
the best effort for Kent State. I believe I'm going

554
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,279
off memory here. I think they just straight up could

555
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:06,240
not hit a shot. Like it was one of those

556
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:09,880
games where it's almost like they couldn't shoot the ball

557
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,079
as bad as they did if they attempted to shoot

558
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,359
it worse. It was that kind of game for Kent State.

559
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,039
Couldn't blindfolded, they probably make more shots than they did

560
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:24,319
in that first meeting with Akron. But you know the

561
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:28,720
argument here, Rob that I think is I think we've

562
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,319
brought it up. I've heard it pretty much the last

563
00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:34,799
couple of weeks is that if Miami, Ohio had a loss,

564
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:37,799
no one would be talking about Miami of Ohio. They'd

565
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,400
be talking about Akron being the best team in this league.

566
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:43,359
So my question to you is, do you think Akron

567
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,480
is a little bit underrated because of Miami Ohio, and

568
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,279
does Kent State have any shot in the rematch here

569
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:59,039
after just getting bludgeoned in the first meeting. You're muted.

570
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,799
I'm muted in you're but you're definitely we're both muted.

571
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,839
Speaker 2: I'll kill you, you know, Akron. And it could have just

572
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,440
been because the way it was positioned inside the schedule,

573
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,920
a game where they didn't play all out. But I

574
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,319
was thoroughly disappointed in Akron in that trip to Troy

575
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,839
on MAC sun Belt Saturday. If ever there was a

576
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,920
spot to just you know, flex a little bit, Akron

577
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,759
should have done it that day and they couldn't against

578
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:32,400
Troy offensively, they were tied up by that team. Now,

579
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,720
since they got back to MAC playing again, it could

580
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,160
have just been one of those where they're like, we

581
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,400
don't care, we're in the MAC, we'll go play this

582
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,480
thing in Troy, Alabama, and you know, whatever happens happened.

583
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,160
But since they came back to the MAC, I mean

584
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400
ninety nine against hu Mass, ninety against Western, seventy eight

585
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,799
against ball State. If at ball State was last Friday

586
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,400
night when I laid thirteen and a half and they

587
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,599
won by thirteen, and they were up by like sixteen

588
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,680
with a minute and a half left, So that was

589
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,480
a tough loss. Buffalo they scored ninety nine. Again, Listen,

590
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:01,519
you're absolut right about Kent not being able to make

591
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:03,519
a shot in that first game. One of twenty three

592
00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:06,839
from three point range is almost Saint John's esque from

593
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:09,039
the Connecticut game the other night when Saint John's missed

594
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:10,880
their final twenty four shots of the game. I think

595
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,599
it was, so one of twenty three just doesn't happen

596
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:18,960
when you're Kent state. It's not gonna happen again. I would,

597
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,680
you know, I don't know what the odds on that

598
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,519
would be, but I'd be willing to play it. Kent

599
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:25,680
won't go one for twenty three tonight.

600
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: In this game.

601
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,799
Speaker 2: They also played without Rob Whaley, their third leading scorer

602
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:32,599
in that one, which does make a difference because Kent

603
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,720
disperses points pretty well. It's not a top heavy scoring team,

604
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:41,279
so Whaley's importance to the team is that much. He's

605
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:44,119
played almost every game, I think every game since then.

606
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,440
So back in the lineup here tonight. What's interesting about

607
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,200
Kent is they had two ten minute frames in that

608
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,599
game where they scored six and seven points. First ten

609
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160
minutes of the game only scored six. You can see

610
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,519
that you're in the opposing arena. You might have to

611
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:59,319
take an opening punch in such a hated rivalry. They did,

612
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,640
But then this are the second half the same way.

613
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,160
Seven points again, two things I don't think are gonna

614
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,279
happen here tonight. My initial look was gonna be toward

615
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:10,319
the over in this game until I saw where they

616
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,559
put the number. And I'm not saying that they shouldn't

617
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:15,200
have put it there. You're supposed to put it at

618
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,680
one sixty five to discourage some people who want to

619
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,599
run to the window with over money like I do.

620
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,440
It's up to one sixty six. I don't know you're

621
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,240
asking for eighty three. Aside, it's not out of the question,

622
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:29,400
but it's out of my league, so I can't play it.

623
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:34,440
I would think, you know, Akron is let's put it.

624
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,759
The difference between the talent level of these two teams

625
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:44,039
is probably more than the opener of four and a half.

626
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,920
It's been bent down to three and a half four now.

627
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:51,079
I think based on rivalry, home floor, revenge, et cetera,

628
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:53,680
et cetera, and Kent is no pushover. But I do

629
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,279
think Akron's the cream of the crop inside that league.

630
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,319
I can't get there with either side here. This is

631
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:03,240
more of those one of those in game type bets

632
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,359
for me, Adam. For like, if Kent gets out of

633
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,640
the shoot really really fast here, I would play Acron

634
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,880
immediately to get back into the game. So that's the

635
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,480
way I'll probably look. They they priced me out of

636
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,440
total and sidewise, even though I think Akron is more

637
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,679
than four points better on most given days. This one

638
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,119
second time around with revenge, with your third leading scorer

639
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,920
back if your Kent, I don't know, it keeps me away.

640
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said it as that I could. I really

641
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,719
can't say it better. I'll apply that to the side

642
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,519
as well. I couldn't believe this open Achron minus four.

643
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,559
I love, I mean my handicap loves Achron here, but

644
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,840
I am shocked that I'm being forced to lay two

645
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,199
possessions on the road in this rivalry. Like I just

646
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,440
I just the way that these the way that this

647
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,599
game has been priced in years past, I did not think.

648
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,119
I thought it was going to be more like a pick.

649
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:03,639
I felt like this was going to be closer to

650
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:07,199
pick and Akron would have been instantly on my card

651
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,480
if that was the case, because they didn't see that's

652
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:11,880
the thing. Akron didn't even play a great They didn't

653
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,119
even play a great game in the first one, and

654
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:17,679
they they won the game easily. And you just don't

655
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,119
see Akron play poorly very often, right, Like that's just

656
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:25,760
just you know, go go back through the years of

657
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,760
the last you know, sort of this run where Akron

658
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,760
has been really good. They just they don't play that.

659
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,000
There's not many nights where this team sort of no shows.

660
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,079
And you know that's the thing. That first meeting, I

661
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,400
don't even think they played close to their best game,

662
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,000
but Kent State could not buy a bucket. So you know,

663
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,800
you talk about the Troy game, and I think, again,

664
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,239
I've been willing to throw out the h The mac

665
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,159
Sunbelt rematch is a little bit tough because it's like

666
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,440
some of these teams like a right, like you kind

667
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,840
of have your site set on winning the league. You know,

668
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,760
they're fourteen and one in league play, they're one game

669
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,639
behind Miami of Ohio was on a generational run. But

670
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,000
most people, at least back then, thought that they had

671
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,320
a loss coming to them at some point. So like

672
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,039
I look at that, and I'm like, I almost am

673
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,480
willing to throw out the Troy loss because of course

674
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:25,079
all of the MAX schools went on the road in

675
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:28,559
the second leg of that of that of the the

676
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:32,119
of the Max Sunbelt thing. So at the time you

677
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:36,920
were basically you were basically asking Akron to go on

678
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,159
the road to Eastern Michigan, go down to Troy to

679
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:42,400
play a non conference game, and then they had to

680
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,679
come back and play like what was a pretty you know,

681
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,039
kind of like higher profile home game with UMass a

682
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:53,199
couple days later. So since the Troy loss, they dropped

683
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,480
ninety nine on U mass in a win, they dropped

684
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:59,119
ninety on Western Michigan won by seventeen blowouts of Ball

685
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:01,760
State and Buffalo, And of course the ball State game

686
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,480
we talked about on this show ball State backdoor at

687
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,119
a fourteen point spread at the like right at the end,

688
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,159
that was a twenty point game for most of the time.

689
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,480
So to me, like, I'll go back to your point,

690
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,599
Acron's just a better team by like a wide margin.

691
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,800
Here in my opinion, if you put these two teams

692
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,960
on a neutral I think I'd have Akron somewhere in

693
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,880
like the seven and I think i'd make Akron probably

694
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,960
seven and a half on a neutral six and a half,

695
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,159
seven and a half Akron kent state. Let's say that game.

696
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,440
Let's say this game occurs when Brian powers at the

697
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,880
Rocket Arena in a couple of weeks in the in

698
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,079
the Mac tournament. I think Akron's like a six and

699
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:39,440
a half point favorite, seven and a half point favorite.

700
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,480
So to me, Cat like much better. I just didn't

701
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:46,639
want to lay four. I still think they're the right side.

702
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,199
I even even win the four. Something tells me that

703
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,800
this is like a nine to eleven point Achron win.

704
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:56,280
They pull away, hit some free throws, probably finish the

705
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,800
job right around double digits. So do what you will

706
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:05,039
with that. All right, let's continue on here. We've got

707
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,039
another donation, much appreciated.

708
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: Here.

709
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: Mad Max is in the building, and I'm glad he

710
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,519
brought this one up because this is a game I

711
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:15,760
absolutely wanted to talk about. Very interesting game. Here, he says,

712
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,840
Dayton is coming off a big upset. Yeah, and Dayton

713
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,159
is starting to play really good ball. All of a sudden,

714
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,000
I think me, you rob the entire country, maybe left

715
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,760
Dayton for dead a few weeks back, and they have

716
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,920
bounced back in a big way. They're playing their best

717
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,320
ball of the season, and now they're hitting the road

718
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,519
to take on a George Washington team that just got

719
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:42,360
their best player back in Rafael Castro. Mad Max likes

720
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,599
GW here. I was very impressed with GW and the

721
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,599
crowd and how loud that building got a couple Fridays

722
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:52,519
ago when I was there for a Friday night game

723
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:55,960
against George Mason. I can only imagine the crowd will

724
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,639
be that and then some tonight for National TV two

725
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,679
against the Dayton team that's a perennial power in this league.

726
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,880
So are you riding with the home GW revs Tonight? Robert?

727
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,639
Do you think Dayton continues their run?

728
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,519
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I was very surprised by the day

729
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:18,480
and you know what, money wasn't surprised, Adam, because there

730
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:22,519
was a flood of money on Dayton against Saint Louis

731
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:24,079
on Tuesday night.

732
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:25,119
Speaker 3: I mean that game got.

733
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:28,159
Speaker 2: Three point move yeah, like three and a half point more,

734
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:33,079
and it turned out to be true. Somehow, some way,

735
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,599
Dayton found a way to reverse that massacre that you

736
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:42,079
were present for it. Chafitz in Saint Louis seventy seven

737
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,519
sixty two that that game was never even closed, so

738
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:48,400
maybe it was just a revenge thing. They have started

739
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,719
to put up points the last three games. It's not

740
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,280
the easiest thing to do on the road to put

741
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,960
up eighty two against George Mason in what's really a

742
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,199
slow footed game. So Dayton shot really really well there,

743
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,519
came back with seventy eight against Duquane, come back with

744
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:07,239
seventy seven against Saint Louis, and all of a sudden,

745
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,039
the offense is what's clicking. These teams did play the

746
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:13,039
one time already though, and it was a GW seven

747
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:17,639
point winning Castro was present in that game, not necessarily

748
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:20,960
a dominant force when we go back through the box,

749
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,519
only eight points in that game, but he was present there.

750
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,519
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting.

751
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm almost of the same opinion as mad Max that

752
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:33,199
there could be a potential let down here for Dayton

753
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,440
after beating Saint Louis.

754
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,679
Speaker 3: I have to believe that.

755
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,159
Speaker 2: Just in seeing that game for about twenty five minutes

756
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:45,679
of it, the amount of energy that UD had in

757
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,360
that game from the outset was incredible. It's like Saint

758
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,639
Louis was never really in that one complete reversal of

759
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:54,559
the first time round. So I don't know if you

760
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:56,760
can take that same energy now and bring it on

761
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,519
the road or not. Anthony Grant's team did have a

762
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:03,760
bad stretch, a six game stretch where they lost five

763
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,079
of the six. Seem to have righted this ship now,

764
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,480
but I think GW can write the ship here too.

765
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,360
A couple of things where this one is concerned. I

766
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,039
feel like I don't really want to lay three and

767
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:19,519
a half, to be honest with you, because I don't

768
00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:24,440
want to take the stance that I think Dayton's win

769
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:28,400
streak is kind of bogus and maybe they're just in

770
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,639
a letdown spot here, because if it's not bogus, and

771
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,119
if that wasn't just a letdown, if they have turned

772
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:38,559
the corner, then GW might not win this game at home.

773
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:42,280
Dayton certainly comes with a little bit of revenge. We'll

774
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,920
see how Castro works himself back into the lineup. A

775
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,320
lot of reasons that would keep me off of GW.

776
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,360
Money has pointed that direction. Early three up to three

777
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,800
and a half totals come down one fifty four and

778
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,280
a half to one fifty two and a half. The

779
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,440
chat is picking an awful lot of I didn't even

780
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,199
say they're picking a lot of difficult games to handicap today,

781
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,599
but I would say that the entire board is kind

782
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,760
of full of games where I can go. You know,

783
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,280
if I put up a wall and had arguments from

784
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,440
the left and arguments from the right and they both

785
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,719
went back and forth. There's a lot of legit arguments,

786
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,880
two way legit arguments for these games, and this is

787
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,400
one of those. So I probably passed my way through

788
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:24,800
this one.

789
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: No, I'm with you, Rob, That's that is you know

790
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,079
where I'm at with this one too, because you know Castro,

791
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,360
there's no there's no discounting his importance to the GW team.

792
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,440
He is their best room defender. He's the best player.

793
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:46,199
You know, last last game, like I feel like he

794
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:49,039
was kind of just out there at times, sort of

795
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:51,840
getting his feet wet still goes for sixteen and seven.

796
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,840
GW drops one oh four on Leasal. I mean, like,

797
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,480
there's no question George Washington is better team when he

798
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:02,199
is on the court, like there is, it's not in

799
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,679
my opinion like that, it's not close. Like I know,

800
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:09,199
Hunger played well in his absence, but he is just

801
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,360
not the force on both ends that Castro is. So

802
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:14,800
my whole thing is this, though the Castro is properly

803
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,159
priced into this number. In my opinion, three three and

804
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:19,639
a half. That's where it should be. And I guess

805
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,719
I'm with you, Rob, I'm not. I don't know that

806
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,880
I want to play against Dayton right now with just

807
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,239
sort of their tenacity on both ends of the floor.

808
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,840
And I my gut says Dayton's a little bit more

809
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,920
battle tested, a little bit more tough than GW. And

810
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,119
you know, going back to the earlier meeting, Dayton won

811
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:41,679
that game by seven a in a stretch where they

812
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:45,320
were not playing their best basketball. They had lost, they

813
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,559
had lost a home game to Liberty, they kind of

814
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:51,559
barely beat Ford and barely beat Loyola Chicago, which it

815
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:53,840
was almost they won the game by two and got

816
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,639
treated like it was a loss because that just beating

817
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,639
Loyola Chicago only by two was almost like an embarrassment.

818
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:03,880
And they still turned around and beat GW. But now

819
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:07,639
for Dayton, I mean, you've had wins at George Mason,

820
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,519
who is a team that's been in the top half

821
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:11,880
of this league this year. The win over Saint Louis

822
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,760
so yeah, there's are you going to play the letdown

823
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,360
spot on the road, which is very possible, and that

824
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,639
that building is like I couldn't believe how loud it

825
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:24,039
got in there. And I bet tonight's crowd is better

826
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:26,000
than the crowd that I that was there for the

827
00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:31,119
GW George Mason game. And again George Washington just got

828
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:33,320
their best player back, so you have to bump them

829
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,719
up in your in your ratings. It is a yeah,

830
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,840
I again, we're we're here, listen, We're here to give

831
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,639
out picks and we're going to do our share of that,

832
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:43,079
and Rob and I are each going to give one

833
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:45,000
out in a minute. But we're also here to break

834
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:47,760
down the games that you guys ask about, and sometimes

835
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,719
it's you know, that's another one that's that's quite difficult

836
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,519
to really land on something for me that I would

837
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:59,760
be confident on. So let's go ahead. Oh this is

838
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:02,840
so Mansy shout out to you. I couldn't remember who

839
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,559
gave us the cal Poly game yesterday, but Mansey hit

840
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,519
that with cal Poly and he wanted to talk about

841
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:12,159
the game to day in game, which we just did,

842
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,239
so we just hit his game, and yeah, I was

843
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,000
gonna say a lot of people wanted that one in

844
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:20,400
the chat, and it's tough one. It's gonna be a

845
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,880
great watch national TV. Okay, this one's very interesting to me.

846
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,639
Let's go back to the sun Belt, the fun Belt

847
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:30,119
as some people call it, Rob Vino, and it's gonna

848
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:33,199
be a fun Friday night because these games are crazy.

849
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,159
So Garth says, Louisiana Monroe plus nineteen and a half

850
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,760
against Troy. Now Troy, it has the easiest road because

851
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:46,840
if they win, and they're a massive favorite to do so,

852
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,639
I believe they pretty much locked them itselves into the

853
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:54,760
two seed. But they did almost get clipped by Louisiana

854
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,239
Monroe a couple of weeks ago, ten days ago in

855
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,199
a game they won by one. And so Rob, I

856
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:08,239
have Louisiana Monroe has shown value on my numbers every

857
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,880
single game, pretty much every game. I've been higher than

858
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,840
the market on four and twenty six Anna Monroe since

859
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,119
the beginning of the season. But the interesting thing about

860
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:23,119
that is they cover a lot like they're always a

861
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,800
huge favorite or huge underdog. My number pretty much always

862
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,960
shows value and a lot of times they lose but

863
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,519
cover big numbers. And that was the case in the

864
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:36,559
first meeting where they covered easily against Troy, and my

865
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:41,639
number love Louisiana Monroe in that game. So my number, Garth,

866
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:45,280
I'm with you. My number loves Louisiana Monroe. Here. But

867
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,800
do you think Rob, this is the spot a spot

868
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,599
where Troy could run it up or would want to

869
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:52,599
run it up. And if you don't have anything on

870
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:54,639
the side, can you talk about talk to us about

871
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:57,440
the total yet?

872
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: This one's a little bit difficult, but I think it

873
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,639
probably the number probably leans or lends itself, I'll put

874
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:07,679
it that way, lends itself to a play on ul

875
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:13,599
Monroe for one exterior reason, and that would be if

876
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:18,519
Troy's out in front three minutes to go by twenty

877
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:23,880
twenty one points, they're gonna pull their guys and preserve

878
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,960
them for the conference tournament. There's no sense in a

879
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:29,400
game like that to leave them out on the floor,

880
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:35,840
which immediately lends itself to a back door Ul Monroe cover.

881
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,079
So you have that on your side if you're taking

882
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:40,480
the points. The seventy seven to seventy six game was

883
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,760
a complete surprise Monroe. If there's one thing they can do,

884
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,119
it's at times score score enough to cover nineteen and

885
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:52,440
a half or to get under that number for sure.

886
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,800
But they don't play any defense whatsoever. And Troy is

887
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:01,599
so good defensively, and maybe Monroe got their attention with

888
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,400
that seventy seven to seventy six game, and now Troy

889
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:06,920
is here. I thought Troy was playing for the number

890
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,760
one seed. Maybe they are playing for days.

891
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,199
Speaker 1: They might no, they might be you might be right.

892
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:14,039
I think they I think there's a scenarios where they

893
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,119
could win the one I think there is.

894
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: And so regardless though they're one of those teams that

895
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,920
will get the four days off, right, you just got

896
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,280
to win this game. You're at home, You're against a

897
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,239
team that maybe has got your tension the last time

898
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,599
you played. Because these, you know, all of these Sun

899
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:34,639
Belt rematches that will occur tonight, they've all been in

900
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:36,840
with like the last fourteen days. These are not games

901
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,480
that were played back on January one, back in you know,

902
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,239
middle of January, second week whatever. They've all been played recently,

903
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,599
so it's got to be a little bit fresh in

904
00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:47,360
Troy's mind. I have no doubt they're going to win

905
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,800
this game, and probably Garth either. But of course the

906
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,239
number is a great equalizer. Here in the nineteen and

907
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,280
a half does loom large. I would be very fearful

908
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,960
of playing Troy in this instance, just because of the

909
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,480
back door. However, they're way better than you, well, Monroe

910
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,960
on both ends, and if that seventy seven to seventy

911
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,360
six awoke them a little bit or woke them up

912
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,119
a little bit, then I could see them, you know,

913
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:20,920
I could see I don't know. I'm trying to think

914
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,920
of a score at the top of my head. Eighty

915
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,119
eighty three sixty two, I guess is where you'd have

916
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,719
to be, and maybe Monroe.

917
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,639
Speaker 3: Can get more than sixty two.

918
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna leave my thoughts, you know, on Garth's

919
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,599
side here, just because I don't trust the very end

920
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:37,320
of the game. But I do think Troy can get

921
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,960
away with a double digit win here. You know, total

922
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:43,519
one p fifty three the first time around, this time

923
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:46,400
we're looking let's get the current. This time we're looking

924
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,119
at the same exact number, one fifty three, and it's

925
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,280
been bent down from one fifty six. And I think

926
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,760
that's solely because money, and I would include myself on

927
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,440
this bandwagon. I would expect Troy to play way better

928
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,559
defense tonight. With a number one seed at stake, and

929
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:06,719
maybe Monroe doesn't come near that seventy six number again.

930
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,599
So I can understand the move towards the under here.

931
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: This is gonna be my parlay leg I cannot I

932
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,639
cannot ignore a a this big of a variance my

933
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,440
number to the market number. And I see that. Noah

934
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,119
says U. L. Monroe is horrendous, but I'm gonna gonna

935
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,519
quantify that real quick. This is they're getting nineteen and

936
00:50:28,519 --> 00:50:32,400
a half points. I'm at fifteen point eight. Okay. They

937
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:36,559
they got destroyed by South Alabama because South Alabama just

938
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:39,440
plays a nasty zone and that's gonna be tough for

939
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,119
a team that, like U. EL Monroe, it doesn't really

940
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:44,800
have shooters. But Troy does not set up like that.

941
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,119
Troy is gonna play man. It's gonna be you know,

942
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,559
up and down and Rob. You made such a tremendous

943
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:55,440
point about there's there's no style points here. This is

944
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:58,400
gonna be like if they've got a fifteen point leader

945
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,039
or a twenty point lead, they're not going to risk

946
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:03,639
a single person getting hurt before that conference tournament. It's

947
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:06,000
gonna be unload the bench the second they get up twenty.

948
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,480
It's unload the bench, get the get the student manager

949
00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:13,599
in on senior night or whatever. Right, like, let's just

950
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:16,039
get anyone and everyone. All the walk Ons are gonna

951
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:19,119
come in, you know. And ul Monroe they've played hard

952
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:21,199
right to the end of these games. They covered fifteen

953
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,920
and a half against Arkansas State, they covered seventeen and

954
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,320
a half against Troy. These are all recent covered fourteen

955
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,840
and a half against Texas State, they cover the ball

956
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,559
State game was a little bit more competitive. They beat

957
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:39,920
Old Dominion. They got to win in that game fourteen

958
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,760
and a half point underdog. Those are all within the

959
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,840
last month. So Louisiana Moreau has been extremely profitable as

960
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,960
this size of an underdog in these games. And now

961
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,679
you're talking about a massive, massive premium to back Troy

962
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,880
because there's this thought that like, well, they've got to

963
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,920
win for the one seed, it's a must win. Yeah,

964
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,559
no one said they had to win by twenty though,

965
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,119
and embarrass Monroe and put their starters out there and

966
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:08,559
leave them out there to risk injury. So I think

967
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:10,719
you're gonna have a if you don't get it just

968
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,119
from the game being competitive, which we just saw these

969
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:16,119
teams played to a one point game. You might get

970
00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:19,800
it from just straight up. Hey, let's get the reserves in,

971
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,079
let's get the walk ons in, and then all of

972
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:24,719
a sudden Monroe comes clips it. It's an eighteen point

973
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,000
Finally cash easily. This one happened. I'm gonna think about

974
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,760
this at nineteen and a half, this is this might

975
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,880
make my client card, but yeah, this will be my

976
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,960
leg of the parlay. Monroe plus nineteen and a half.

977
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:38,639
I love that angle. Someone said, Adam, stop it. I'm sorry.

978
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,280
Nineteen and a half is an insane number for that game,

979
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:44,679
and that is my leg of the parlay. What about you, Robino,

980
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,119
what's your leg of the parlay?

981
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well two choices here, Adam. One of them would

982
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,960
involve your cno sense against Fairfield tonight. But I'll go

983
00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:57,559
the other route just because it's been really, really kind

984
00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:00,440
to me so far this season, and I'm going to

985
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,119
play the Sacred Heart Mount Saint Mary's game over one

986
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:11,159
and a half here in a league where tempo doesn't exist.

987
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:14,440
I mean, this is the one of the slowest leagues

988
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,039
in the country, and for Mount Saint Mary's around a

989
00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:18,719
pretty good role right now. I just want to put

990
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,280
some context into this play here. We've talked enough about

991
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,639
Sacred Heart this year. We know their style, we know

992
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,239
they shoot it well from three, we know they lack defense.

993
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,519
They're gonna play with pace, et cetera, et cetera. But

994
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:34,679
Mount Saint Mary's a team that probably is happy to

995
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:36,639
find a team that's going to play pace with them.

996
00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:39,199
It'll be the second time they played this year. But

997
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,880
right now, currently Mount Saint Mary's on a four game

998
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,880
win streak, playing really good basketball. But what got me

999
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,039
the most when I was doing this handicap early this

1000
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:52,280
morning was the fact that how do you get if

1001
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,840
you're Mount Saint Marys. This is driving me towards extreme

1002
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,440
tempo in this game here tonight. How do you get

1003
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,800
Merrimack play a seventy one possession game with you? That

1004
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,320
doesn't happen with that Merrimack's not going to play seven.

1005
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,360
But yet they did, and they scored seventy points, gave

1006
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,519
up eighty seven, but they got Merrimack to go up

1007
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:14,400
and down. How do you get Niagara and Jerry mcnameric

1008
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,039
to play a seventy possession game. It doesn't have Niagara

1009
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:21,280
sixty three, sixty two, fifty nine, just don't play that fast.

1010
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:24,800
So I've got a team here that wants to go.

1011
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:27,800
Sacred Heart's going to go. They want to go. We

1012
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,679
should get more than enough or an ample amount of

1013
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,119
scoring opportunities here, which is always what you're looking for

1014
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:36,360
when you're playing over and then I just think the

1015
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,719
price range is good here, one forty nine and a

1016
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,679
half for a game that I feel can get to

1017
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,000
one fifty four or better. And in fact, first time

1018
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:47,639
around they got to one sixty seven against one another

1019
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,440
and Kwan Hill was present in that game. All guys

1020
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,800
were on deck for the Sacred Heart side. So to me,

1021
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:57,639
I've got Mount Saint Mary's playing really good offensive basketball

1022
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,239
right now, playing fast tempo against teams that don't want

1023
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,800
to move whatsoever. Going to get a team that does

1024
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,079
want to move tonight. Both teams can fill it up.

1025
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,280
I thought one and a half this play is fifty

1026
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,920
sixty percent against the number, and they've moved it up

1027
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,639
a little. One forty eight. Opener was even better priced,

1028
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:20,320
but here we're still under one fifty. I like it.

1029
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,360
And on top of that, Sacred Heart is off of

1030
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,320
a very poor offensive game the prior game here, So

1031
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,599
I'm always a guy who's looking at bounce back If

1032
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:32,800
you do something really well and you didn't do it

1033
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,679
well the prior game. I looked for that bounce back.

1034
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:36,199
I think you get it out of Sacred Heart here.

1035
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:38,360
That's going to be my leg of the parlay here,

1036
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,599
Adam a little Northeast Conference basketball tonight. I'll go back

1037
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:46,159
to what you know. I've kind of got twin Alma

1038
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:51,800
maters u NH. Sacred Heart. Gonna go to Sacred Heart tonight.

1039
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,280
They've been good to me that team that game total

1040
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,199
mount Saint Mary's Sacred Heart over one forty nine and

1041
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:56,559
a half.

1042
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is you know, Sacred Heart for me. Rob

1043
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,840
kind of a disappointing season. I thought that this team

1044
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,840
talent wise would have been sort of in the mix

1045
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,960
for that like top four, top five in the MAC.

1046
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,760
They're going to finish probably closer to tenth, ninth or

1047
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,239
tenth regardless of depending on what happens in this next

1048
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:21,239
these next couple of games. But the reason that they've

1049
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,079
been so disappointing to me is is not that it

1050
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:27,400
hasn't been the offensive end that that is that is

1051
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,199
like cause them to disappoint. They still make a lot

1052
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,760
of threes. They still play esthetically pleasing offense. Most of

1053
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,119
the time they do. I mean, they will force up.

1054
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,320
There's no shot that Sacred Heart does not like to take.

1055
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,719
But the nice part about if you like an over

1056
00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:45,760
is they get them up quick. They will get them

1057
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,000
up quick, and it's like they they're they're they're typically

1058
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,599
not running a ton of shot clock. What I've noticed

1059
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:55,559
that that makes sense for your handicap with Mount Saint

1060
00:56:55,559 --> 00:56:59,079
Mary's is this is not nearly the Mount Saint Mary's team,

1061
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:01,400
in my opinion that made the run of the NCAA

1062
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,920
tournament last year, and they don't have as much of

1063
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,079
an identity. So I've I've found that Mount Saint Mary's

1064
00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:10,719
is a little bit more inclined to play the game

1065
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,719
that their opponent wants to play. And I think if

1066
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,199
they play the game like if you look at like

1067
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,639
you know, Canisius Niagara, they've played like Rider all teams

1068
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:22,519
like the last three games for Mount Saint Mary's, they've

1069
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:26,679
played bad offensive teams that play slower games, and of

1070
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:30,960
course the scores were lower scoring. But when they've played

1071
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,039
some of the faster paced teams in this league. We'll

1072
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:36,880
just use the first meeting between these two teams way

1073
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,719
back on December third, eighty seven to eighty right, Like,

1074
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,119
I feel like you know, Sianna was a team that

1075
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,239
I remember Jerry wanting to slow down Mount Saint Mary's

1076
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:52,280
in that game, and Sianna beat them sixty seven to fifty.

1077
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,440
So I found that Mount Saint Mary's can be you

1078
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,239
can coax them into playing your game, and if they

1079
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,599
play Sacred Hearts game here, there's probably one hundred and

1080
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:05,519
seventy points in the game like that, because that is

1081
00:58:05,519 --> 00:58:08,000
the type of game that Sacred Heart will will push for.

1082
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:10,840
So yeah, what is what did you say your number was?

1083
00:58:11,159 --> 00:58:18,000
Certainly wasn't one seventy one forty nine and a half? Yeah,

1084
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:20,920
that makes a lot of sense, Rob, If Sacred Heart

1085
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,960
dictates this game, you're gonna get you. You will easily

1086
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,719
get to one fifty, even if even if neither team

1087
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,039
is having a great shooting night, just by the sheer

1088
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,599
volume of shots that are likely to be attempted.

1089
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: And real quick as you were talking, I realized you

1090
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,239
pointed out another mistake. As I was rattling off a

1091
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,280
thousand thoughts out of my head. How come I get

1092
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,039
Greg Paulus and Jerry McNamara mixed up, but they're like

1093
00:58:48,119 --> 00:58:49,920
the same person. Rob.

1094
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: You know, they're both they're both Syracuse legends. They are

1095
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,239
both legends in the three one five area code. Greg

1096
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,440
Paul is former mister Basketball CBA Sarah Couse and of

1097
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,440
course you know Greg Paul is an incredible high school

1098
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,480
career in the Syracuse area area. And then Jerry McNamara

1099
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:09,880
maybe the greatest career of anyone to ever step foot

1100
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:12,280
in the three one five area code. So you know,

1101
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,239
it's an honest mistake.

1102
00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:17,679
Speaker 2: No my apology because they just they're the same person

1103
00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:22,239
to me, the point guards, it's crazy, but yes, one

1104
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,000
forty nine and a half. But I think Sacred Heart

1105
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:26,320
in Mount Saint Mary's get that thing up and over.

1106
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,119
So let's knock down this parlay tonight.

1107
00:59:29,199 --> 00:59:32,199
Speaker 1: Two teamer tonight for us over in Sacred Heart, Mount

1108
00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:34,599
Saint Mary's over one forty nine and a half. I'm

1109
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:37,480
gonna go with Louisiana Monroe plus nineteen and a half.

1110
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:39,800
That's your two teamer for today. We will be back

1111
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,719
on last call tomorrow with a three teamer. We'll throw

1112
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,960
Kelly and Vegas into the mix. So let's try to

1113
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,880
get this one and set ourselves up, you know for

1114
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,639
a nice three team or tomorrow I've got a five

1115
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:53,760
percent play Tonight, Rob and I have the joint package

1116
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,400
up three day all access, a much more cost effective

1117
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,719
way to get that five percenter. Hope everyone has a

1118
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:02,000
great weekend. Cash all your tickets, said Rob, and I

1119
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,320
will see you as part of Last Call in the

1120
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,920
morning right here on wager Talk TV.