Speaker 1: From Workhouse Connect and aj Benza.
Speaker 2: Fame.
Speaker 1: Uh, he'd liked to be walked on a leash and
Speaker 1: play really dirty kinky sex games. Is the guy put
Speaker 1: the cock in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, Hey, everybody
Speaker 1: aj Benz are here with Fame is a bitch. This
Speaker 1: is your daily Unfiltered podcast for tax Day, April fifteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six four two two six. Hate the odd
Speaker 1: numbers and there's a good reason why let's not talk
Speaker 1: about taxes. This of the worst topic in the world.
Speaker 1: I can't take it. I started the show about twenty
Speaker 1: minutes ago, and then the army of Guatemalan and Elsalvadoran
Speaker 1: landscapers came and we're here for a half hour almost
Speaker 1: with the edging, the cutting, the leaf blowing. They love
Speaker 1: that leaf blower. And as I've said a million times,
Speaker 1: the gas powered leaf blowers are illegal in California. No one,
Speaker 1: no one pushes that. They just let it occur. Let
Speaker 1: it happen. Every day of the week. There's dust flying.
Speaker 1: I took a shower yesterday, right yesterday afternoon, and I
Speaker 1: did my three mile walk. Today. I went down to
Speaker 1: the store, picked something up, came back not really sweating,
Speaker 1: but still, you know, a little little misty around my
Speaker 1: face and chest whatever. I took my shirt off because
Speaker 1: I had to wash it. And I took my shirt.
Speaker 1: I just I wiped the back of my neck and
Speaker 1: behind my ears with it. Dirt, dirt come off, dirt.
Speaker 1: And when I used to stay at the Travel Large hotel,
Speaker 1: and you know, I was shaving my head like i'd
Speaker 1: still do. I would walk. I would spend a couple
Speaker 1: hours outside walk and talk and whatever. And I get
Speaker 1: back to the hotel and I take a wet washcloth
Speaker 1: and put it on my head and rub it. Dirt
Speaker 1: just from walking around this disgusting Shitsville climbing Now, it's
Speaker 1: a beautiful climbate. It's just it's all the shit that
Speaker 1: they blow in the air. Can't take it anyhow, Gang
Speaker 1: saw something interesting today? Oh, by the way, I mean yesterday.
Speaker 1: I kept saying Marty Croft died. Actually his brother Sid died.
Speaker 1: Since ninety six he passed. I kept saying Marty, sorry
Speaker 1: about that. And I'm getting some heat from one of
Speaker 1: my patrons, which I don't mind constructive criticism. Wanted to
Speaker 1: tell me that Bob McAllister was not the guy you
Speaker 1: want to talk about. When it comes to hosting won Durama,
Speaker 1: that was Sonny Fox. I know. Sonny Fox was the
Speaker 1: first host of Wonderama only for three or four years,
Speaker 1: and I was way too young to watch the show
Speaker 1: at that point. But when I got to be I
Speaker 1: don't know, seven eight, it was Bob McAllister and that show,
Speaker 1: his show with him his host, ran longer than Sonny Fox.
Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying. Sonny was the first.
Speaker 1: I get it. Okay, what kind of you know? It's
Speaker 1: no big deal, But I get what you're saying. You're
Speaker 1: an old school guy like me. You want to give
Speaker 1: credit to the first guy, not the second guy through
Speaker 1: to the door. I get okay. Moving on, I saw
Speaker 1: something today that the shot just shocked me because it's well,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't shock me. But remember Jessica mcclare Morales. Does
Speaker 1: that name sound familiar. She was baby Jessica who got
Speaker 1: stuck in the well when she was eighteen months old
Speaker 1: in Midland, Texas. I wonder if I wonder if the
Speaker 1: great Catherine Steward was there at that point. I must
Speaker 1: right in her backyard Midlands. There's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: about Midland on TV on Murder Stories on what do
Speaker 1: you call it? Landman's I love it. I was gonna go, well,
Speaker 1: regret it. Captain and her husband John told me come out,
Speaker 1: come out and see us, and I probably angling for
Speaker 1: me to see her before she felt the worst was coming.
Speaker 1: And I just couldn't do it. I couldn't make it
Speaker 1: out there. It was Vegas, there was Chicago. I just
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. And then when John invited me to
Speaker 1: her memorial, it was in the middle of my crazy
Speaker 1: he flew at Rosalie's house. So couldn't do it. And
Speaker 1: I think about her all the time. But this story,
Speaker 1: Jessica mcclaur moreles was little baby Jessica in the well.
Speaker 1: Those of you who are considerably younger than this old
Speaker 1: guy don't know the story. But back in nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 1: she was rescued from a well. An eighteen month old
Speaker 1: baby was stuck in a well twenty two feet beneath
Speaker 1: the ground. It was horrifying to watch. And well, now
Speaker 1: she's forty years old and she got taken into police
Speaker 1: custody because she had like a domestic disturbance. I guess
Speaker 1: she's facing a criminal charge. Now assault causing bodily injury
Speaker 1: involving family violence. Hard to believe forty years have gone well,
Speaker 1: almost forty years have gone by. She fell into an
Speaker 1: eight inch wide well twenty two feet. It took fifty
Speaker 1: eight hours for her to be rescued. I remember me
Speaker 1: and my first we're eating in Manhattan and it's one
Speaker 1: of our first like nice, big, like nice New York
Speaker 1: City dinners after we got married. It was nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1: As I said, we're married for a year, and we
Speaker 1: went to the village and ate at the Minetta Tavern
Speaker 1: on the beautiful Minetta Lane, great spot, been there many
Speaker 1: many years. And we're eating there and it's a great
Speaker 1: dinner and there's a couple of TVs up by the ceiling,
Speaker 1: which was odd. That was like a new thing back then.
Speaker 1: And it was tuned into CNN because Ted Turner had,
Speaker 1: you know, the first twenty four hour news station. And
Speaker 1: we all watched this happen during our dinner. And by
Speaker 1: the time it ended and she was rescued, everybody was
Speaker 1: standing up, applauding. People were hugging each other. That was
Speaker 1: a really good moment with a bunch of strangers in
Speaker 1: a room who all came together because of a tragedy
Speaker 1: or a near tragedy, And God, I haven't seen the
Speaker 1: city like that since nine to eleven. It's a very
Speaker 1: different world now, where you don't want to touch people,
Speaker 1: You're nervous of who's coming towards you. What are they saying?
Speaker 1: Who do they vote for? Ah? Sucks, But the biggest
Speaker 1: story today has to be and this is disgusting. Well,
Speaker 1: Ruby Rose, the actress, made a claim against Katie Perry,
Speaker 1: the pop star in graphic detail which I'll get to.
Speaker 1: Katy Perry has denied Ruby Rose's accusations that she sexually
Speaker 1: molested her over two decades ago. I love how these
Speaker 1: girls bring things up over twenty years later. It must
Speaker 1: have caused them such grief that it just keeps coming
Speaker 1: up and they have to tell someone, tell the world. Anyhow,
Speaker 1: Ruby Rose is claiming that she did this on Threats,
Speaker 1: which is the worst platform I've ever seen, is nothing
Speaker 1: but lies. Everything I read on there was a lie.
Speaker 1: Why do people go to threads? I don't know. Don't
Speaker 1: waste your time on threads. It's such a stupid fucking
Speaker 1: sight or app whatever you want to call it. Anyhow,
Speaker 1: this occurred in Melbourne in Australia when she was in
Speaker 1: her twenties. And just understand, Katie and Ruby Rose, we're
Speaker 1: not famous yet. That would happen a couple of years
Speaker 1: after that, but they weren't really famous yet. She said,
Speaker 1: Katy Perry sexually assaulted me at Spice Market nightclub in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: Who gives a shit what she thinks, That's what she
Speaker 1: wrote in response to see Katy Perry had a comment
Speaker 1: about Justin Bieber's performance at Coachella. Didn't like what he did.
Speaker 1: He opened up a laptop and kind of sang along
Speaker 1: to songs that he performed, and I think he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the right to them if I'm not mistaken, So
Speaker 1: he had to do it that way. He played the
Speaker 1: song on the laptop loud for the and then like
Speaker 1: sang with it kind of a karaoke thing. Very weird,
Speaker 1: but he got ten million bucks for it, so he
Speaker 1: ain't laughing. But that's all that. Katy Perry made mention
Speaker 1: of that and Ruby Rose had to run to Justin
Speaker 1: Bieber's defense. Then she said, it's taken her almost two
Speaker 1: decades to make the accusation public. Now here's the accusation.
Speaker 1: You're ready, it began to go around social media, and
Speaker 1: of course Katy Perry is saying, no, this did not happen.
Speaker 1: It's a reckless lie. And Katie says miss Rose has
Speaker 1: a well documented issue of making serious public allegations on
Speaker 1: social media against various individuals, claims that have repeatedly been
Speaker 1: denied by those names. So Rose gave some details about
Speaker 1: this alleged incident. She said she didn't kiss me, but
Speaker 1: Katie saw me resting on my best friend's lap to
Speaker 1: avoid her, and she bent down, pulled her underwear to
Speaker 1: the side, and wrote her disgusting vagina on my face
Speaker 1: until my eyes snapped open and I projectile vomited on her.
Speaker 1: And after I threw up on her, I told this
Speaker 1: story publicly, but changed it to be a quote funny
Speaker 1: little drunk story because I didn't know how else to
Speaker 1: handle it. Later, she agreed to help me get my
Speaker 1: US visa, so I kept it a secret. But I
Speaker 1: did tell you all she wasn't a good person. Do
Speaker 1: you see how women are the work A man would
Speaker 1: never do this to another man, but women are so
Speaker 1: caddy over a shit that happened when they were young,
Speaker 1: stupid kids about to be famous. They can feel the
Speaker 1: pull of Hollywood. They knew everybody who gets into Hollywood
Speaker 1: can feel it starting to happen. It's like the ground
Speaker 1: beneath you starts to move, like those moving things in
Speaker 1: the airport where you stand still, and they take it
Speaker 1: to your gate. That's what getting close to fame feels like.
Speaker 1: And then you meet a few people who are in
Speaker 1: the business and they put their hand out to extend
Speaker 1: to help you up the ladder. It ain't as much
Speaker 1: as what you think that they people want you out
Speaker 1: of Hollywood. They step on your fingers when when your
Speaker 1: fingers reach the one of the rungs of the ladder
Speaker 1: as you're climbing. It's not the case. I have to
Speaker 1: say this in Hollywood's defense. When you're getting close and
Speaker 1: they like what you have to bring, they extend their
Speaker 1: hands and it's easier to get to where you're going,
Speaker 1: and they what I'm saying is Ruby Rose and Katie
Speaker 1: Perry both felt that happening beneath their feet. I know
Speaker 1: I did, and I never would reach the level of
Speaker 1: fame they have, but you just feel it. So a
Speaker 1: fan told Ruby Rose, I believe your story. It's something
Speaker 1: incredibly raw, and traumatic. Everybody's a fucking doctor. Everybody's a
Speaker 1: doctor or a therapist who understands all too well what
Speaker 1: is and isn't trauma. Do you see what's happening here
Speaker 1: every day? Do you read the comments that people write.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows medicine and and and therapeutics and psychology. Jesus,
Speaker 1: I can't stand how everybody's doing this now. And how
Speaker 1: about some women nowadays just want to take something that
Speaker 1: happened to them, even something in private that had to
Speaker 1: do with a famous friend, and turn it into an
Speaker 1: international scandal. I like women who were possibly in a raw,
Speaker 1: weird predicament, but came away with it with strength, grace, wisdom, clarity, Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, I don't think she'll mind me hurt, she'll
Speaker 1: mind me telling you this story. But well, my sister
Speaker 1: Rosalie Rossi's one of those women who, like you know,
Speaker 1: tilts her head and squints her eyes when she hears
Speaker 1: all these stories about men, you know, sexually assaulting or
Speaker 1: molesting women. She's more along the lines. Really, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: what happened? Like my sisters would never go to a
Speaker 1: producer's hotel, romora's house on a Saturday night, at nine
Speaker 1: o'clock expecting to really just audition. They were smarter than
Speaker 1: that because my father taught them what men can some
Speaker 1: men can be like. But yet you have these girls
Speaker 1: who want to taste so badly. They do something stupid,
Speaker 1: and of course the tiger tries to bite. You know,
Speaker 1: you're in the tiger cage. You can't go in the
Speaker 1: tiger cage like. I'm looking at this a picture of
Speaker 1: one of the chicks that said Eric Swowoll drugged her,
Speaker 1: raped her the whole thing, and she had some kind
Speaker 1: of company that it was some kind of online company.
Speaker 1: He said he wanted to help her, and she thought
Speaker 1: it was going to be Oh, this is great. I
Speaker 1: also was interested in local politics. He said he'd helped
Speaker 1: me with that. So of course she accepts dinner with
Speaker 1: the guy. She had a boyfriend, but she thought it
Speaker 1: was all business. Now, I'm not blaming her, but if
Speaker 1: you're having dinner with a politician who were mostly always smarty,
Speaker 1: and you got a boyfriend, why are you seeing Eric
Speaker 1: Swowall with a not see through well yet a sheer
Speaker 1: top where you could see your broad beneath it, and
Speaker 1: a nipple? Why are you wearing that shirt? I remember
Speaker 1: when I was dating Kara and she came back from
Speaker 1: having lunch with a fucking director who did Animal House.
Speaker 1: I can't think of his name right now. You know
Speaker 1: Ghostbusters direct Landis John Landis. He had a thing for her,
Speaker 1: and you know, whenever he was in New York and
Speaker 1: he had some time, he'd call her, they'd get lunch.
Speaker 1: Not when I was with her, but one day she's
Speaker 1: getting dolled up. Are you going, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: lunch with a friend? Okay? She comes back and I'm
Speaker 1: at the apartment. I had a key back then and
Speaker 1: said what's up? And she was very like upset. I
Speaker 1: could said did he try something? She said, and she
Speaker 1: shook her head and she didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: She said, nothing happened, but I didn't like the way
Speaker 1: he was acting. Okay, and I you know, held herian Okay.
Speaker 1: I said, well, here's the thing. Next time, don't wear
Speaker 1: a tight, tight red mid drift shirt to exposure deep
Speaker 1: cup breasts okay, with no bra by the way, and
Speaker 1: a tight tight skirt that accentuates your ass. And thought,
Speaker 1: what the fuck do you think a man's gonna do?
Speaker 1: He's in town for a few days he calls you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wants to get it on christ an' might. But
Speaker 1: you know some girls like to play with that danger. Oh,
Speaker 1: like it's a powerful thing. I got clothes. He wanted
Speaker 1: a piece of me, but I shut it down. Well,
Speaker 1: don't go out there stinking of bait. Not saying the
Speaker 1: man is right to pounce, but for fuck's sake, it's biology.
Speaker 1: If I was home over, he said, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: take that off, no no stop, you're not wearing that.
Speaker 1: That's for me, not for him. So the Rosalie story was,
Speaker 1: and again she doesn't always believe these women or things.
Speaker 1: They make a mountain out of a mole hill. At times.
Speaker 1: Rosie told me the story of one day I forget
Speaker 1: many years ago. She was a kid, maybe nineteen years old,
Speaker 1: and she was climbing down maybe twelve, I don't know,
Speaker 1: coming down the ladder, but she was young enough that
Speaker 1: people were scared she might fall back. And one of
Speaker 1: our relatives, I can't think, who would, uncle whatever is
Speaker 1: getting ready to grab her. He's guiding her down, and
Speaker 1: she said his hand went up her thigh and his
Speaker 1: thumb hit her little young vagina, And I said, you're
Speaker 1: kidding me. You know, no, did you say anything? She says, no,
Speaker 1: I know he didn't mean it was an accident. I
Speaker 1: know he didn't mean he loved me. That's how she
Speaker 1: handled it. No trauma down the road, you know that.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know these fucking women, some of them.
Speaker 1: In another post, Ruby Rose writes that she planned to
Speaker 1: go to a police station to see if any of
Speaker 1: my experience can be investigated twenty years later. I imagine it's
Speaker 1: past the statute of limitations, but all the more reason
Speaker 1: to try. I have a long list. It'll probably take
Speaker 1: more out of me than I'm prepared for, but I'll
Speaker 1: come back here to update others on the process as
Speaker 1: soon as I'm ready, And she writes back at the
Speaker 1: police station, now I did it. What a shithead. I
Speaker 1: could never really like Ruby Rose. This Ruby Rose. You know,
Speaker 1: when she came on the scene, she was this beautiful,
Speaker 1: talented actress with a very androgynous look. You know, I
Speaker 1: would question my I mean, she's very fetching. I would
Speaker 1: stare at her face. She was adorable. But it didn't
Speaker 1: take long for her to announce to the world, who
Speaker 1: wasn't even asking that she's gender fluid. And identifies as
Speaker 1: neither strictly male nor female, and she says she often
Speaker 1: moves between the two and their personal expression. She said
Speaker 1: she feels like a boy, but it's comfortable living as
Speaker 1: a woman using both they them, and she her pronouns.
Speaker 1: You know what back in the eighties when I got divorced. Oh,
Speaker 1: I got divorced in ninety one, so I'm freshly divorced.
Speaker 1: And I saw Entrew dice Clay live at a comedy
Speaker 1: club on Long Island called Governors. I was with this
Speaker 1: girl I worked with at Newsday, desperately wanted to have something.
Speaker 1: Whether she had a boyfriend. She was one of those
Speaker 1: girls that'll never leave him, really good Italian chick, Italian
Speaker 1: Irish girl from Long Island. Boyfriend was in a band.
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't gonna last. Jokes on me. They'd
Speaker 1: been married for years, so it lasted. But I wanted
Speaker 1: her so bad. And one day she had no ring,
Speaker 1: no engagement. I saw her in the parking that from
Speaker 1: the second story window from the sports department. Mary's getting
Speaker 1: out of the call with no engagement ring on the finger.
Speaker 1: I run out of the room. I'm on deadline. I
Speaker 1: run down the hall to gree like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: the bathroom. Hey man, what's up? And I pointed to a
Speaker 1: thing of what happened her eyes? Well up, it's not
Speaker 1: working out. You know. We broke it off, Okay, I
Speaker 1: let it. Let a week go by. We kept talking
Speaker 1: in the hallway, so I invited her out, but she
Speaker 1: just man, she she was tough. I called Mary the
Speaker 1: one that got away. Mary bought a Lamucci, had a
Speaker 1: lot of young Liz Taylor in her beautiful eyes, black
Speaker 1: black hair, light skin. But we're sitting there and andretized
Speaker 1: Clay comes out and does the nursery rhymes, and I
Speaker 1: remember that from when I was younger at the HBOS.
Speaker 1: But Rodney Danger for how the big special that he
Speaker 1: was on. But I remember how he did this bit
Speaker 1: about gay guys and he said, yeah, you got you
Speaker 1: got your regular two of them, two leg fags, and
Speaker 1: then you got your sexuals. What do these people do?
Speaker 1: Wake up in the morning and flip a coin to
Speaker 1: decide heads, eye want hairpie tails, balls across the nose.
Speaker 1: Everybody laughed. People recited it with him because it's brilliant.
Speaker 1: That's really what Ruby Rose is living like Ruby Rose
Speaker 1: and Katy Perry are both known for not playing with
Speaker 1: a full fifty two card deck. Let's face it, but
Speaker 1: they were both so cute before they told us too
Speaker 1: much about themselves, and this story just takes the cake.
Speaker 1: But in the last several years, I can't take how
Speaker 1: Ruby Rose ruined her body covered it with the worst
Speaker 1: tattoos you can find. This girl went from being so
Speaker 1: hot to a disaster Candidas of amateur tattoos in about
Speaker 1: two years. And by the way, Katy Perry looks so
Speaker 1: ridiculous with Justin Trudeau, who looks more ridiculous and out
Speaker 1: of place than anybody there. A grown man's gonna go
Speaker 1: see Justin Bieber Sabrina Carpet is saying a bresso, get
Speaker 1: them here. You saw pictures of these two at Coachella.
Speaker 1: This guy runs Canada and he's at Coachella wearing a
Speaker 1: baseball cap backwards. Do you know any other leader world
Speaker 1: leader that wears a baseball cap backwards? And not for nothing,
Speaker 1: He's seen drinking out of a red Roady plastic cup.
Speaker 1: These are the very same plastic cups Trudeau banned in Canada,
Speaker 1: along with other single use plastics. This is what this
Speaker 1: fucking hypocrit does, spins his hat backwards and drinks out
Speaker 1: of a roady Don't you wish who invented the roady cup?
Speaker 1: My god? Is that guy? Well company doing great? So simple?
Speaker 1: Get some red and blue and green cups see through,
Speaker 1: but the red Roady is the one. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: when we were younger going to this city, meet Joey
Speaker 1: and his friendly You know, this is so stupid. This
Speaker 1: is like nineteen ninety eight, ninety seven and six, we'd
Speaker 1: we'd all make a gin and tonic in the red
Speaker 1: Roady cup, three of us. I'm driving Joey's next les
Speaker 1: in the back. We're all drinking gene tonics. And then
Speaker 1: you know, when we got to our destination, we throw
Speaker 1: the cups out. Having alcohol in a red Roady cup
Speaker 1: in a car. How never got caught, Thank God? So stupid.
Speaker 1: I mean, Rosie didn't know we snunk it out. But
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, and excuse me for asking this, but I'm dumbe.
Speaker 1: If Ruby Rose likes girls, why would she project al
Speaker 1: vomited after having a Pop Stars vagina on her face?
Speaker 1: But what was that the night she was digging guys?
Speaker 1: Was it balls across the nose? Night, what's the problem,
Speaker 1: and Ruby Rose says she's so traumatized by this act, well, warrant,
Speaker 1: traumatized enough to let Katie help you get your visa
Speaker 1: to work in the US. Though, right, these assholes are
Speaker 1: all the same, just big hypocrites. Here's another one for you.
Speaker 1: I can't even talk about this girl without wanting to
Speaker 1: throw up. She's that disgusting Lena Dunham who looks like
Speaker 1: she's bulking up to play job of the Hut in
Speaker 1: the next Star Wars film. She's saying that her Girls
Speaker 1: co star, remember the HBO show Girls, that should be
Speaker 1: just her because she's so big, she's plural. Now she's
Speaker 1: not even a girl, she is Girls. Her co star
Speaker 1: Adam Driver, had shocking outbursts towards her on this set
Speaker 1: of the HBO show. Now she's promoting her new memoir
Speaker 1: called Fame Sick. Hey, that's a little close to fame adjacent,
Speaker 1: which I'm grooving on. Spoke to my agent the other
Speaker 1: day and in this interview with I think The Guardian,
Speaker 1: she talked about her allegations about Adam Driver's temper and
Speaker 1: you know, as you know, if you watch the show,
Speaker 1: which I did, he played her her on to go
Speaker 1: and off against boyfriend and was rude to her, spectacularly rude,
Speaker 1: she says. She says that Adam Driver wants her old
Speaker 1: a chair at the wall next to her. She says
Speaker 1: he also punched a hole in his trail of wall
Speaker 1: and that he would scream in her face. Okay, welcome
Speaker 1: to Hollywood. Happens all the time. When she says, at
Speaker 1: the time, I didn't have the skill to it never
Speaker 1: entered my mind to say, I am your boss. You
Speaker 1: can't speak to me this way. Because she was the
Speaker 1: creator and the showrunner, and at that point in my twenties,
Speaker 1: I still thought that that's what great male geniuses do.
Speaker 1: They eviscerate you, which is weird because I was raised
Speaker 1: by a male genius who would never do that. More
Speaker 1: on him and her family in a minute. Her father's
Speaker 1: the painter Carol Dunham. Carol. I guess some guys are
Speaker 1: named Carol. I don't know many, but there you go, Carol.
Speaker 1: But she did praise other men in her life, amazing men.
Speaker 1: She said. John Appatow is a great hero of mine.
Speaker 1: I have to say, regardless of his politics, John Apatow
Speaker 1: is responsible for some of the funniest movies in the
Speaker 1: last twenty five years, and putting together talent that he
Speaker 1: put together to do Freaks and Geeks on TV. Look
Speaker 1: at the cast and that show, and look how so
Speaker 1: many of them were superstars mainly in comedy. I gotta
Speaker 1: I mean him and Lauren Michaels know how to find
Speaker 1: the true comedic geniuses that are going to just make
Speaker 1: us laugh for the next thirty forty years. Anyhow, Appathaez
Speaker 1: a great hero of mine. Tim Bevin at working title
Speaker 1: is a huge part of my life, and so is
Speaker 1: cinematographer Sam Levy. I just worked with Mark Ruffalo christ
Speaker 1: the most thoughtful, sensitive, politically engaged, beautiful person. Beautiful and
Speaker 1: politically engaged don't go together, especially his views. Here's what happened. So,
Speaker 1: Adam Driver was a little too rough with Lena during
Speaker 1: their first sex scene that she wrote. By the way,
Speaker 1: she said, he tossed her back and forth. He was
Speaker 1: kind of a little violent, and the person who the
Speaker 1: sex what do you call choreographer, whatever you call those
Speaker 1: people on set didn't say a thing. So then she said,
Speaker 1: I remember doing a fight scene with Adam and how
Speaker 1: scary it was to meet someone so totally present with
Speaker 1: such absence. It's called method acting. He studied it, He's
Speaker 1: good at it. Late one night, as we practiced lines
Speaker 1: in my trailer, I found that mine were suddenly gone.
Speaker 1: I knew i'd written them, I'd known them only minutes before,
Speaker 1: But when I opened my mouth, all that came out
Speaker 1: was a stammer, until finally Adam screamed, fucking say something,
Speaker 1: and then he threw a chair at the wall next
Speaker 1: to me. Wake the fuck up. He told me, I'm
Speaker 1: sick of watching you just stare good, good latest characters.
Speaker 1: This is what he says. Ye know, here's his thoughts
Speaker 1: on her. Latea's characters, especially her female characters, are so
Speaker 1: three dimensional and never seem in any way stereotypical, which
Speaker 1: was amazing to be a part of. It was such
Speaker 1: a collaborative group of people on set that you couldn't
Speaker 1: ask for a better circond. He's nothing but gushing over her.
Speaker 1: She's perpetually happy, awesome to be around. Having in the
Speaker 1: room is really the best scenario if you're gonna spend
Speaker 1: that much time being really intimate with someone, I'm like,
Speaker 1: can't even I almost get like a little intimate with
Speaker 1: I mean, she was I don't want to say cute.
Speaker 1: She looked nothing like she looks now when she made girls. Okay,
Speaker 1: but not to the degree where you'd say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: having her in the room, what a great thing to do,
Speaker 1: and really intimate with her. It's kind of special bullshit.
Speaker 1: And then she decides to save this out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: and this is something that really could have fucked up
Speaker 1: his life, even if it happened. She describes Adam Driver
Speaker 1: as short tempered and verbally aggressive, condescending, and physically imposing
Speaker 1: because he's a boy. He's a man over six feet
Speaker 1: and you're a fat little girl. Yes, he's physically imposing.
Speaker 1: Once punched a hole in the dressing room wall because
Speaker 1: he hated his new haircut. You don't know what else
Speaker 1: is bubbling underneath him that day. He can't just be
Speaker 1: the haircut. She goes, he could be protective, loving, even
Speaker 1: and one week came to her apartment every night when
Speaker 1: she was feeling particularly anxious as romantic vibes mounted again
Speaker 1: she's writing this. Drivers said before his final visit, I'm
Speaker 1: warning you if I come up, I'm not leaving this time,
Speaker 1: which Dunham didn't take issue with initially. Then she writes,
Speaker 1: I crouched at the window, watching him park his bike,
Speaker 1: pull out his phone and dial, but I didn't answer.
Speaker 1: It felt as simple as ignoring your doorbell, as pretending
Speaker 1: to be asleep, as impossible as stopping your blood from flowing.
Speaker 1: But some part of me knew, some wise part of me,
Speaker 1: some bold part of me, that if we crossed whatever
Speaker 1: boundary we were threatening to cross, the return to work
Speaker 1: would be tinged with humiliation, that I'd be minimizing any
Speaker 1: authority I still had, and that, however it went, my heart,
Speaker 1: bruised but and probably not yet broken, would crack. Then
Speaker 1: Adam Driver called to announce his engagement to his now wife,
Speaker 1: and Dunham says she was heartbroken, even though such a
Speaker 1: feeling was absurd. The guy said such nice things about it.
Speaker 1: How many people have nice things to say about this woman?
Speaker 1: She's ugly inside and out. And by the way, can
Speaker 1: online website stop trying to sell sweatpants by using Lena
Speaker 1: Dunham as a model. Lena Dunham has warned these perfect
Speaker 1: sweatpants for a year. That's a problem. Any woman who's
Speaker 1: seen in sweatpants for an entire year has already given
Speaker 1: up she's not fucking a man anymore. That's over. She
Speaker 1: just wants comfort. Her waist got too big. They've given
Speaker 1: up on trying to keep their men happy. They're done.
Speaker 1: Their bodies are shot. So they just one day pull
Speaker 1: on a pair of sweatpants or Lulu lemons, depending on
Speaker 1: the tax bracket, and they're done. They passed the checkered
Speaker 1: flag and they're done. You know, can't you guys see this?
Speaker 1: I told you years ago about a cousin of mine
Speaker 1: who came over married and I saw a black head
Speaker 1: in the middle of her eyebrow. I saw it for
Speaker 1: at least three visits, and I'm like, come on, he's
Speaker 1: he has to see it. He's not squeezing that black
Speaker 1: head or telling her about it. They're not fucking period.
Speaker 1: He's just not close enough to her face to see
Speaker 1: the black head. Otherwise he'd say, hun, I have a
Speaker 1: black head that on the left side of my chest,
Speaker 1: above my heart right that always comes up. It's so
Speaker 1: embedded deep. And when I was married, well i'm still
Speaker 1: i'm married. But when I was with Lola, she whenever
Speaker 1: my shirt was up, she'd go, oh, let me get
Speaker 1: that black head. She would go right and she'd love
Speaker 1: to see it come out, but it never all of it.
Speaker 1: Can ever had one on my back. She loved doing
Speaker 1: it because because we were fucking anyhow, jes Adam through
Speaker 1: a chair on set. Oh any chance you were running
Speaker 1: your mouth at him when he threw the chair. I'm
Speaker 1: just sorry he missed. But I would be filled with
Speaker 1: rage too. If she wrote constant sex scenes that you
Speaker 1: had to engage in her with you imagine a worst job.
Speaker 1: Good news, bed news, I got a starring role on
Speaker 1: Girls on HBO. What's great? Well, I gotta fuck Leena Dunham?
Speaker 1: Oh no, can you get out of it? And the
Speaker 1: money's too good? I can't unbelievable. The girl's got no shame.
Speaker 1: Remember her book detailing the sexually abusive thing she did
Speaker 1: to her sister when she was an infant. Her book
Speaker 1: was called Not That Kind of Girl. Read into the
Speaker 1: title there are passages that There's one passage that describes
Speaker 1: an incident when I think Lena was like seven and
Speaker 1: her sister was one. They were playing outside of the driveway,
Speaker 1: and Dunham wrote in her book that curiosity got the
Speaker 1: best of me and she opened her sister's vagina, only
Speaker 1: to call her mother when she found that toddler had
Speaker 1: six or seven pebbles in there. Let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: A one year old doesn't pick up and put them
Speaker 1: inside her body. They don't do it. I never heard
Speaker 1: a story about a boy putting rocks in his asshole. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't tell me a one year old condicted barely walk,
Speaker 1: but they're picking up rocks on the driveway. Nah. I
Speaker 1: don't buy it. And my mother didn't bother asking me
Speaker 1: why it opened Grace's vagina. This was within the spectrum
Speaker 1: of things that I did, because you're a sick fuck.
Speaker 1: In another passage, she says to try, she was trying
Speaker 1: to persuade her sister to kiss her on the lips
Speaker 1: for five seconds by offering her gifts or sweets or coins, anything,
Speaker 1: she said, basically anything the sexual predator might do to
Speaker 1: woo a small suburban girl. I was trying, and this
Speaker 1: crazy bitch wants us to get upset to Adam driving
Speaker 1: through a chair or punched the wool. When people got
Speaker 1: into these scenarios, they were shocked, and rightfully so, so,
Speaker 1: Lena answered back on Twitter. The right wing news story
Speaker 1: that I molested my little sister isn't just lol. It's
Speaker 1: really fucking upsetting and disgusting. And by the way, if
Speaker 1: you were a little kid and never looked at another
Speaker 1: little kid's vagina, well congrats to you. Can't say that.
Speaker 1: Can't say that. Usually this is stuff I can ignore,
Speaker 1: but don't demean sufferers. Don't twist my words back the
Speaker 1: fuck up, bros. Whenever a girl calls a man bro,
Speaker 1: I want to throw a punch at her. I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, but I can't handle Hey, bro, it's just
Speaker 1: done too much. Bro, what are you doing to me?
Speaker 1: I'm not your fucking bro. I told the story about
Speaker 1: being a weird seven year old. I bet you have
Speaker 1: some too old men that I'd rather not hear. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I get so mad, I burn right up. At some
Speaker 1: point of her sister, who she says pounded rocks into
Speaker 1: a vagina, defended her. Of course she did. They're both sick.
Speaker 1: Grace Stunnham defended her, Saysterlena, she tweeted, get rid of this,
Speaker 1: get ready for this, tw You're gonna hate the girl
Speaker 1: just by the way she writes heteronormativity deems certain behaviors
Speaker 1: harmful and others normal. By the way she's behaviors with
Speaker 1: you at the end.
Speaker 2: Oh, you are as very fancy.
Speaker 1: The state and media are always invested in maintaining that.
Speaker 1: As a queer person, I'm committed to people narrating their
Speaker 1: own experiences, determining for themselves what has and has not
Speaker 1: been harmful, and that today, like every other day, is
Speaker 1: a good day to think about how we police the
Speaker 1: sexualities of young women, queer and trans people. And also
Speaker 1: she wrote today with the number two d A Y
Speaker 1: must have been in a hurry, had to say some time,
Speaker 1: so one numeric character beats two two letters, want a hurry.
Speaker 1: Thank you for gracing us with your with your wit
Speaker 1: and your your incredible intelligence. Did you understand what she said?
Speaker 1: But we all know that when they turn it into
Speaker 1: an LGB thing, LGBTQ thing, everybody's got to back up. Now,
Speaker 1: you're not going to be shocked by this. But her
Speaker 1: sister was born a male named Cyrus. Figures prominent family,
Speaker 1: both parents working artists, heavily progressively democrat. They send their
Speaker 1: daughters to expensive private schools in New York City, Saint
Speaker 1: Anne's and then liberal universities Ivy League schools. One becomes
Speaker 1: a sex crazed, fat lunatic slob. The other changes her
Speaker 1: sex and now refers to herself and called herself a
Speaker 1: writer activist. By the way, did you know Dunham's family
Speaker 1: is related to the Tiffany family. Yeah, the jewelry comp Tiffany.
Speaker 1: I'd like to shove the whole family into one of
Speaker 1: those tight, little light blue boxes.
Speaker 2: Bastards.
Speaker 1: So Adam Driver was acting like a man, a pissed
Speaker 1: off man. Did he go too far? Maybe not the
Speaker 1: end of the world. He didn't hit her hit the wall.
Speaker 1: Speaking of men and what men are portrayed like, I
Speaker 1: caught the finale of DTF Saint Louis last night. I
Speaker 1: liked the show and I think it's worth watching. Mike
Speaker 1: bailed on episode one. Stick with it. Just be ready
Speaker 1: to see a show where every female is smart and savvy,
Speaker 1: and every man and child is either fat, autistic, or
Speaker 1: a henpeck pussy, a cuck, has a crooked penis, or
Speaker 1: is seriously mulling seeing if a gay man can give
Speaker 1: him a heart on what she calls a full on
Speaker 1: and takes a directile his function drug. On top of that, kid,
Speaker 1: you not aj how'd you hang with it? I just did?
Speaker 1: I like Justin Bateman a lot. I like Linda Cardellini,
Speaker 1: although Justin Babman needs to be told to never take
Speaker 1: his shot off again in any movie or TV show.
Speaker 1: He looks like he was in Outwitz for two weeks.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make a joke about it, but
Speaker 1: he just looks like he needs to be put on
Speaker 1: a can at seven to eleven to get money from malnutrition.
Speaker 1: It's I don't think he's ever pushed a weight off
Speaker 1: his chest or lifted anything heavy christ But I love
Speaker 1: the guys acting. He's funny as hell. But like I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm watching Bateman and David Harbor do their
Speaker 1: best acting. But I couldn't help but think, where have
Speaker 1: all the men gone? What's happening? Did you ever see
Speaker 1: Lee Marvin wearing a pink tap? Did Edward g Robinson
Speaker 1: or Robert Mitcham have a wife who are absolute bitches
Speaker 1: toward them? Did Jimmy cag Do you ever talk about
Speaker 1: a rectile dysfunction with Pat O'Brien playing the priest he
Speaker 1: always played? Did you ever see Charles Bronson and Steve
Speaker 1: McLean holding hands while riding on their recumbent bikes? Can
Speaker 1: you imagine Dirty Harry being remade today, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: as soon as Clint dies there will be a remake.
Speaker 1: But imagine Detective Harry Callahan saying, I know.
Speaker 2: What you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five?
Speaker 1: Well? To tell you the truth and all this excitement,
Speaker 1: I kind of lost track myself. But being as this
Speaker 1: as a forty four mag the most powerful handgun in
Speaker 1: the world, it would blow your head clean off.
Speaker 2: You've got to ask yourself one question, do I feel lucky?
Speaker 1: Well? Do you punk today? That speech in the writer's
Speaker 1: room with trans and foreigners and handicappers and all the
Speaker 1: sorts of shit they got to drag in to the
Speaker 1: writer's room would be more like.
Speaker 2: I know what you're thinking, did he have his green
Speaker 2: juice today?
Speaker 1: Did he take his beat root? Well?
Speaker 2: To tell you the truth? I kind of lost track
Speaker 2: somewhere between my sauna and cold plunge this morning.
Speaker 1: I mean that floy did write it, they would absolutely
Speaker 1: turn it into that. I'm watching a scene from DTF.
Speaker 1: No spoilers here, but both Bateman and David Harbor are
Speaker 1: dancing in their underwear in a pool house, like the
Speaker 1: locker room of a community pooled. No one's there. It's
Speaker 1: like five am and they're in the underwear dancing, and
Speaker 1: Bateman breaks down and hugs Harbor and cries, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. Everybody's lonely, you know, and everybody
Speaker 1: makes terrible decisions just to try to ease a little
Speaker 1: bit of pain. Fucking kill me. Men do not talk
Speaker 1: to men this way now deep we get how you doing,
Speaker 1: Bro with the divorce. Oh Bro, it's not easy, and
Speaker 1: I have feel for you. You know you're okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll get through it. Boom bangs it. That's all we say.
Speaker 1: Very rarely do we gir Can I talk to you
Speaker 1: about something's really bugging me. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: We don't do that. We keep it in. That's why
Speaker 1: we get heart attacks and strokes. Doctor pimple Poppa had
Speaker 1: a stroke while she was working on set. I'd love
Speaker 1: to see that video. Not that I think strokes are funny,
Speaker 1: they're horrible. But I remember when I woke up with
Speaker 1: belle palsy Christmas morning twenty one years ago. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you can feel your body begin to go, your face
Speaker 1: just drop. It's horrible, horrible. I think I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a stroke one day. I just I've always seen it.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen anyhow. Just kill me with
Speaker 1: the way men are portrayed. This is what our boys
Speaker 1: see as men being men when they get off TikTok
Speaker 1: and Instagram. That is. I don't mind a man or
Speaker 1: an actor being sad or losing it over a girl.
Speaker 1: That shit happens, and we can all understand it. But
Speaker 1: it's the way Hollywood's group of bullshit riders deal with
Speaker 1: things these days. They have no idea how real men act,
Speaker 1: because the ones writing aren't real men and most likely
Speaker 1: didn't have fathers who were real men. Men who ran
Speaker 1: toward the fight, men who met trouble head on or
Speaker 1: cut it off at the pass, men who knock right.
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly reminded of how much better Hollywood understood
Speaker 1: men back in the day. The other night I called
Speaker 1: Humphrey Bogart in Gloria Graham, who we talked about a
Speaker 1: couple weeks back. In one of the greatest film noirs
Speaker 1: of all time, called In a Lonely Place, Bogart plays
Speaker 1: Dixon Steele or Dick Steele, a troubled, violence prone screenwriter
Speaker 1: suspected a murder Gloria Graham co stars is Laurel Gray,
Speaker 1: a lonely neighbor who falls under his spell. Very romantic movie,
Speaker 1: I must say, even though it's a film noir. At
Speaker 1: one point, Bogard sits down with a friend to tell
Speaker 1: him the effect that Gloria Graham had on him, and
Speaker 1: he says, I was born when she kissed me. I
Speaker 1: died when she left me. I lived a few weeks
Speaker 1: while she loved me. Now that's writing, because that's how
Speaker 1: real men think. Maybe because it was written by real men.
Speaker 1: Andrews Salton Edmund North. But remember this on the way out.
Speaker 1: And I only wish the studio lots that dot Shitsville
Speaker 1: had this quote chiseled into their buildings on the lot.
Speaker 1: Just remember romanticism was created by men, not women. Take
Speaker 1: that for what it's worth. Either way, men are not
Speaker 1: being portrayed the way I know men. I'm aj Benza.
Speaker 1: That was your daily Unfiltered podcast for April fourteenth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. Talk to you tomorrow.