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<v Speaker 1>Andy Anderson my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where you can find her at Andy five. Make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you support creators who come on the show. Andy, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming on with me tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So right off the bat, let's do the boring hack interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you've heard this a million times question? How did

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<v Speaker 1>you cross over from vanilla life into whatever form of

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<v Speaker 1>the adult entertainment industry? Maybe some sexual stuff outside of

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<v Speaker 1>normal life, Like when did you first make that switch

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<v Speaker 1>in your life?

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<v Speaker 3>If you will h.

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<v Speaker 4>So, my husband and I have always been very open

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<v Speaker 4>with our not I wouldn't say open, I guess open

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<v Speaker 4>minded with our sexuality.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a conversation we had.

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<v Speaker 4>From the beginning, and so we kind of started there.

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<v Speaker 4>I was always bisexual and it was actually a conversation

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<v Speaker 4>that I had with him on our first date, like, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm bisexual. It's something I have to have. It's it's

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<v Speaker 4>not just a desire, it's a need. So I need

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<v Speaker 4>you to be on board with it. And if you're not,

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<v Speaker 4>like you should probably take.

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<v Speaker 2>A hike now.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so there was no because the story you always

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<v Speaker 1>hear sometimes is the guy really pushing like you know

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<v Speaker 1>what if we had a threesome, you know, hey, that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting. That wasn't the case in your situation. You

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<v Speaker 1>were the one that presented right up front, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>one on one for the rest of our lives, probably

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna cut it, because I need some women in

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<v Speaker 1>here too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, So I actually told him on that date too,

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<v Speaker 4>like because I was I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty years old at that point, and I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming to the realization that I needed to be non

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<v Speaker 4>monogamous because I was hurting people and you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>would get into these relationships and they'd be great and

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<v Speaker 4>then I'd get bored. And I know I'm not the

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<v Speaker 4>only person guilty of that, Okay, So so in that exploration,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, some people got hurt and I feel really

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<v Speaker 4>terrible about it still, but it was a journey and

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<v Speaker 4>I started realizing, Okay, I don't think I can be

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<v Speaker 4>in a relationship where I am monogamous.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't work for me.

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<v Speaker 4>But then I was like, oh my god, I'm never

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<v Speaker 4>going to find a person that's like down with that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had been single for about a year.

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<v Speaker 4>And met my husband, and yeah, we chatted for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time because we didn't live in the same state.

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<v Speaker 4>So we chatted for a long time after we had initially.

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<v Speaker 2>Met, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Finally when we went on the first date, we were

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<v Speaker 4>having such a great time, and I was like, look,

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<v Speaker 4>this date's going amazing. But there's some things you got

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<v Speaker 4>to know, like I need women. I have to have that.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to be okay with that. And honestly, I

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<v Speaker 4>think I'm moving.

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<v Speaker 2>Into non monogamy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what that looks like for me because

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<v Speaker 4>I've never ventured that with another person.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're open to something like that in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't need to be now, but maybe later. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, okay, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>So from then on we started going to sex clubs

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<v Speaker 4>occasionally and kind of dipping our toe in there, and

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<v Speaker 4>finally it got to a point where we were just

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<v Speaker 4>very comfortable sexually with other people together. Played separately at

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<v Speaker 4>this point in time and twenty nineteen, I had a

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<v Speaker 4>girlfriend who was making like insane amounts of money on

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<v Speaker 4>Snapchat Wow as a snap Premium.

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<v Speaker 2>Model, and I was like, Oh, let me try it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, I'm sure I could make a little you

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<v Speaker 4>know that was an extra dollars a month or something

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<v Speaker 4>like that, and that first year, I was making insane,

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<v Speaker 4>insane amounts of money as a Snapchat model. So then

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<v Speaker 4>it got into oh twenty happen, and when COVID happened,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we were all out of a job, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>most of us, so that included myself, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>let me try my hand at camming, like, let me,

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<v Speaker 4>let me try this. We were not hard, but just

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<v Speaker 4>wanted something else to do. And my husband was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of into it. He was like, oh, this is hot,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm down to Yeah, I'm done to watch this.

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<v Speaker 4>So I started camming, and at first I wasn't doing

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<v Speaker 4>very good because you have to build your clientele. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, the first month is discouraging when you're

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<v Speaker 4>a new when you're a new webcam model, because and

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<v Speaker 4>you have no following anywhere else, because you have to

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<v Speaker 4>sit there for free for hours, and you have to

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<v Speaker 4>show people your personality and your body and all of

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<v Speaker 4>these things. And then you build up a clientele and

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<v Speaker 4>then they come in and start tipping you. So my husband,

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<v Speaker 4>come to find out years later, I didn't know this.

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<v Speaker 2>My I'd be upstairs.

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<v Speaker 4>Camming, my husband would be downstairs watching me, and there

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<v Speaker 4>would be this whale that would come into the room,

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<v Speaker 4>and he would spend Googles the fucking money to start

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<v Speaker 4>getting the room going, and it would work every time,

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<v Speaker 4>come and out.

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<v Speaker 3>That was my husband. That's that's love.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you're listening, if you're listening out there,

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<v Speaker 1>go into your wife's bugging either premium Snapchat or her

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<v Speaker 1>cameraom and start tipping it. Hey, why aren't more people

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<v Speaker 1>tipping in here? Start commenting that. That is so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like if I went on Reddit and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, have you heard this new podcast? It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting. But then other people are like, yo, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give it a listen. They don't do that for me.

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<v Speaker 1>They just go like, hey, fuck this guy, get.

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<v Speaker 3>Them out of here. So that is so oh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>so funny. And it worked. That worked.

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<v Speaker 4>It worked, so he would come in and spend all

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<v Speaker 4>this money, and then people started just catching on and

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<v Speaker 4>spending money, and so within three months, I was a

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<v Speaker 4>top model on Chatterbabe. Then of course my fans were

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<v Speaker 4>pressing and pressing for an OnlyFans and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll can I say that you can say what you pay?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, Yeah, you're totally fine. You were one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent fine.

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<v Speaker 2>To say it okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So they were like, you need an OnlyFans and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh no, I share enough of my sexuality

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<v Speaker 4>with you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I don't think so no.

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<v Speaker 4>Well then my husband of course, is like, maybe you

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<v Speaker 4>should try that, like it might be another you know,

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<v Speaker 4>revenue stream. And I was like, I have no idea

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm doing, Like I don't know how to film

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<v Speaker 4>a video, edit a video. I don't know any of

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<v Speaker 4>that stuff. And he's like, well you'd learn real fast.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, well, you're right, So I started an only fan.

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<v Speaker 4>After that, it was pretty much all over with. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I started the only fans, the only fans took off

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<v Speaker 4>and started generating that that year of twenty twenty and

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one was insanity.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the term you used earlier?

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<v Speaker 5>Goog gobs googlebucking money? So can I ask you this though?

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<v Speaker 5>Let me let me ask you on your mindset there.

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<v Speaker 5>You seemed like, and I don't mean any offense by this,

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<v Speaker 5>a girl who's ready to go. Ever since you met

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<v Speaker 5>the husband, right, You're like, hey, but but then, why

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<v Speaker 5>the why the hesitation.

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<v Speaker 1>On the only fans? Like what I just again, no

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<v Speaker 1>no judgment whatsoever. But I think that's so interesting where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I'll go this far, not quite there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet, because in my brain there was a there was

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<v Speaker 4>a oh my god, that's porn. Okay, well I can't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm not putting porn out into I'm doing solo

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<v Speaker 4>work here and that's it. And so I also thought, well,

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<v Speaker 4>my sex life, do I really want to open that

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<v Speaker 4>up for the world, Like, you know, do you really

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<v Speaker 4>want to open that up for the Internet, which is

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<v Speaker 4>the whole world forever?

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<v Speaker 2>And so that was kind of you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I I have three degrees, I'm I I'm highly educated.

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, thought what if I want to do

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<v Speaker 4>more with those degrees?

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<v Speaker 2>What if I you know, And so I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 2>about it. There.

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<v Speaker 4>There was just a lot going on there that I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I don't know. And so finally, with the

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<v Speaker 4>encouragement of my partner, it was like, well, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>good with it, like okay, like, you know, I know

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<v Speaker 4>if my family were to find out, because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>at that point, I was like, well, I know, if

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<v Speaker 4>my family finds out, like they're just gonna be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>not surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>You okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I wasn't really concerned about it. After he

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<v Speaker 4>gave me the green light, after he was encouraging it,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, okay, so we ran with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I ran with it.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't really he's not really involved in my stuff

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<v Speaker 4>at all, and so, and not not that he wouldn't be,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just that he has a more professional position. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, you handle that, I'll do this, and we

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<v Speaker 4>have a pretty good thing here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it works.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, So I was a content creator after that

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<v Speaker 4>and was hesitant to get into mainstream porn, also because

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I didn't I didn't need it for

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<v Speaker 4>a long time, and also the stigma that is attached

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<v Speaker 4>to mainstream porn even like I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 4>ever read Jena Jenna Jamison's book, but I read that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I did not read it, but I can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>it may have seemed rough.

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<v Speaker 4>I encourage everyone to read it because it it gives

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<v Speaker 4>you a little bit of history in the porn the

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<v Speaker 4>professional porn realm.

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<v Speaker 2>But and it was real, you know, the ship that

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<v Speaker 2>she was going through was real.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I read that when she put it out,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think it was like I think maybe she

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<v Speaker 4>put that out in like two thousand and eight, So

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<v Speaker 4>that always stuck with me that, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think they're doing people real right on the on these

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<v Speaker 4>porn sets.

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<v Speaker 1>But going I mean, having experienced somewhat slightly the industry

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<v Speaker 1>camming later on and then maybe talking to people, interacting

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<v Speaker 1>with people this and that, did you notice that the

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<v Speaker 1>industry has shifted somewhat a little more pro woman or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you are absolutely not wrong. You were absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the you know, I was just I was just

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<v Speaker 2>telling you why I was terrified for.

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<v Speaker 4>It, sure and hesitant because now I kick myself like

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<v Speaker 4>I should have done this years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have fucking done this years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you a question quick. What were

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<v Speaker 3>your three degrees?

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<v Speaker 4>If I can ask that, Yeah, I have a bachelor's

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the psychology and the business work. The biology is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the most directly related. But every time I

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<v Speaker 1>And I always tell them like, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>you still want to go to school, get a marketing degree,

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<v Speaker 1>go into business yeah sometimes yeah, market or take a

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<v Speaker 1>minor in like video editing or production or something like that. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really want to make this a career, It's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny to me how much of your guys work

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<v Speaker 3>It's all the other shit, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the thing, So that that's actually it's funny you

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<v Speaker 4>bring that up, because that is why I ended up

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<v Speaker 4>going into mainstream porn, because I had kind of hit

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<v Speaker 4>a cap for myself as to what I could do

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<v Speaker 4>was like, okay, like I'm doing good. I'm still doing good,

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<v Speaker 4>like I had browsers knocking out my door, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I went ahead and took the call with browsers and

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<v Speaker 4>decided to start shooting. And I shot a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>scenes with browsers. It was fantastic, and so I was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So at the beginning of last year, when ABN kicked

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<v Speaker 4>off in twenty twenty four, I went and I went

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<v Speaker 4>with plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I went.

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<v Speaker 4>Thinking, Okay, I'm going to get a manager, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to find a fucking agent, I'm going to get an assistant.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to get all of these things that I

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<v Speaker 2>And that's precisely what I did.

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<v Speaker 4>In two weeks later, I was shooting pro porn in Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the producer, this director was like, okay, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>have ten scenes for you. I'm like okay, yeah, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've also worked with, though some pretty incredible, it's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to I've yet to figure out the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to articulate this. So the mainstream performers, there's

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<v Speaker 1>also more of your independent performers. And it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be felt like a tear system, a little bit like

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<v Speaker 1>you're indies, and then this it seems like it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>leveling out as different kinds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it really.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, where she's kind of like this, actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, You've worked with someone who I think

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<v Speaker 1>is like the best example of that, subgirl. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they do, maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one well sure you know, yeah, yeah, yes, I assume,

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<v Speaker 4>oh subgirl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're not just falling that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's amazing to me how much indie performers can

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<v Speaker 1>still stay out of the mainstream and I mean build

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<v Speaker 1>a full business, right yeah, Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>My god, yeah, I think for I've worked with so

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<v Speaker 4>many people like that, She's one of them, and I

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<v Speaker 4>briefly worked with her. I did not work with her

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<v Speaker 4>a whole lot, but I did work with her a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit on the Hot Wife tour. But oh man,

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<v Speaker 4>if she's ever a web or a person that is

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<v Speaker 4>top chier that does this indie performance and stays out

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<v Speaker 4>of mainstream for the most part, she's one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 4>that person, I think. Uh, I want to I want

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<v Speaker 4>to say, also Max and Hailey Rose, like Phil's and Haley,

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<v Speaker 4>they kind of did independent, very very indie and look

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<v Speaker 4>at the two of them now, like, yeah, but they

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<v Speaker 4>have since moved into pro porn.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's funny you say that though, because I only

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<v Speaker 1>associate Haley I know Haley or not personally like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know her, she's a friend of mine. I know

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<v Speaker 1>of Haley Rose, and I only associate her with just

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<v Speaker 1>having a huge like Twitter presence, like her shit always

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<v Speaker 1>shows up at the top of my thing and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's amazing that they've built this, do you, But

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<v Speaker 1>you say you do like shooting mainstream scenes still right?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I love them.

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<v Speaker 4>I and And you asked me a question earlier and

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't really dive into it.

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<v Speaker 2>You asked me if.

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<v Speaker 4>If pro porn has since changed in giving the performers

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<v Speaker 4>more more rights than what they have, And I do

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<v Speaker 4>want to, I do wanna that because yes, absolutely, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing like I thought it would be. It was nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>What it was when once upon a time. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 4>is not that now. And I think, I honestly think

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<v Speaker 4>too that the platform of only Fans, I have a

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<v Speaker 4>love hate relationship with that platform, as I know many

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<v Speaker 4>of my name my colleagues do too. But it changed

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<v Speaker 4>things for people I porn like, it changed the pro

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<v Speaker 4>porn realm to give them to give performers just more.

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<v Speaker 1>Agency. Is that the word? I don't know what that means?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, like it gave them more.

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<v Speaker 1>Power, right, you more more decision making ability. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>you can take that big brawser. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>money wise, you don't really need it so much as

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<v Speaker 1>much as you would have ten years ago. Something like that, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So let me I'm sorry, continue, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>No, so I have I mean, I love the way

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<v Speaker 4>they treat me on these sets. I love the people

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<v Speaker 4>I work with on them. I've never had a bad,

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<v Speaker 4>bad day, bad situation, and so and I've been on

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how many. I think I shot sixty

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<v Speaker 4>five scenes last year. So so I've never had a

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<v Speaker 4>bad anything, well anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that you mentioned numbers, we're going to do something

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<v Speaker 1>to do on the show called stat check.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start out by saying these numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>entirely wrong. They're not right. I say this to every

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<v Speaker 1>woman I interview. They go okay, and then at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of it, when I say the numbers, they go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's totally wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we're all we know, we know.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna fitball in here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm basing this off the Internet Adult Film Database,

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<v Speaker 1>which is almost like IMDb, the Internet Movie Database, and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of tracks most of your main or all

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<v Speaker 1>of your mainstream stuff, a lot of the mini bids

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<v Speaker 1>or this and that other things. So when I say

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<v Speaker 1>this numbers, these numbers here, they're gonna be wrong because

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<v Speaker 1>you just said something that blows it out of the water. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So number of okay, but we use this as a milestone.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I have you on a year from now

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<v Speaker 1>and you have fifty AVN awards and you're like this

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<v Speaker 1>queen and blah blah blah blah blah, even more of

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<v Speaker 1>a queen, I apologize. We can look back and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>remember when on your record you only had blank blank blank.

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<v Speaker 1>So number of scenes I have is forty eight. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I know the numbers are wrong. You just said

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Number of scenes is forty eight. Number of guys you've

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<v Speaker 1>worked with is fifty one. Number of girls you've worked

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<v Speaker 1>with is twenty four. According to this, no AVN nominations yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and no AVN wins. Now's your turn to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers are totally wrong. Those numbers are wrong, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I think actually the one that might actually be correct

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<v Speaker 4>is the number of women I've worked with. Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. So are these pro scenes that they're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about that women in pros.

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<v Speaker 1>This is probably like it's a website that's been around

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty years, but it's probably built by a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like in a basement in Thailand, like putting it together.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't don't sweat it. I wouldn't be like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have credit. No, they don't have credit for a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of years.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's probably less actually in the women that

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<v Speaker 4>I've worked with in the pro world.

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<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, I have.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely it's more men and it's more scenes for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>But no no avn noums yet and no no awards.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're working on We're gonna fucking get there.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that mean a lot to you or no? An award?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it doesn't. It just kind of validates you, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. So, while I don't feel like I know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm putting out and I'm happy with it and

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<v Speaker 4>it's gaining dry and I'm fine with that. But of

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<v Speaker 4>course it's always nice to be told, dude, you took

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<v Speaker 4>that dick soak, you were the best one. You took

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<v Speaker 4>that dick the best I don't hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, congratulations, congratulations you took that dick so much better

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<v Speaker 1>than all the other ladies who took dick this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You said something before that I wanted to touch on. You

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<v Speaker 1>said love hate relationship with OnlyFans. Now you are not

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<v Speaker 1>I understand none of the independent channels. You've already gone

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<v Speaker 1>through again and again, how much they've given women in

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<v Speaker 1>this industry, the independent channels not just only fans fansly

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<v Speaker 1>many bids, blah blah. It's great to have your own outlet,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to publish things, yes, but the love

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<v Speaker 1>hate what is the hate part? What can these things

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<v Speaker 1>do to be more friendly towards women, because they're already

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<v Speaker 1>doing a great job of giving you the ability, But

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<v Speaker 1>now how can they take some of the chains off?

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<v Speaker 1>What is something that really bothers you about them?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say women, I'd say create, I'd say fair

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<v Speaker 4>creators in general. I have I've seen the blue and whiteside.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to say it out logs. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want them to come for me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's why I was trying to disperse it. Independent

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<v Speaker 3>channel I've seen.

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<v Speaker 4>In particular, just do creator so dirty? Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>kick them off? For things that are not clear in

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<v Speaker 4>the tos or there was like there was one person

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<v Speaker 4>in particular who had their only who.

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<v Speaker 3>Had their their their channel some.

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<v Speaker 4>Income suspended and it was because you know, we're allowed

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<v Speaker 4>to our Twitter in the bio and they were linking

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<v Speaker 4>their Twitter, which their Twitter had some stuff on it

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<v Speaker 4>that that mentioned, uh, high end escorting.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I allowed to.

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<v Speaker 3>See that on it? Yeah? You said whatever you want. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're totally So.

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<v Speaker 4>They had that on their on their Twitter and they

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<v Speaker 4>suspended their account because of that. Now, how is that

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<v Speaker 4>breaking the toos? They're talking about that on the site

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<v Speaker 4>on on Why is it a problem when your bots

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<v Speaker 4>can go in and read the freaking twitter and see

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<v Speaker 4>what's on the twitter, that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I got my strike on YouTube. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not tell anyone to go anywhere. I said, you may

428
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<v Speaker 1>know my next guest Andy Anderson from blank blank blank

429
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<v Speaker 1>dot com. And they took the transcript and put a

430
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<v Speaker 1>link to it, and then they went, oh, you're linking pornography.

431
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<v Speaker 1>You get a strike now. So that is why I

432
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>am dancing around telling people to check you out at

433
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<v Speaker 1>the site. We all know what it is at and

434
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<v Speaker 1>D five A and d E five. Make sure you

435
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:43.079
<v Speaker 1>check her out. You know, I understand one aspect of it.

436
00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>They they don't want that on their site because there's

437
00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 1>legal ramifications blah blah blah blah whatever. I get that,

438
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>But the linking thing, you're right, they need to be

439
00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:56.599
<v Speaker 1>more clear about that. I don't know if I'm allowed

440
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<v Speaker 1>to put a Twitter account in uh the YouTube bio,

441
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know if when they go to Andy

442
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Anderson's Twitter, giant beautiful breasts are going to be there

443
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:10.160
<v Speaker 1>or something.

444
00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Like that, They're gonna see my butt hole.

445
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:21.559
<v Speaker 1>And lucky for everyone who clicks that, let me, let

446
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:24.440
<v Speaker 1>me dive into some of the content. And so, yeah,

447
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>if you could only shoot one niche the rest of

448
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>your career, say, you are getting pigeonholed, but it's going

449
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.119
<v Speaker 1>to equate to tons of money. Most girls go, I

450
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>like shooting everything, and I totally respect that. I understand.

451
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:39.119
<v Speaker 1>But if there was one thing that you are just

452
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<v Speaker 1>in love with doing, shooting whatever type of niche or

453
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>kink or whatever it is, what is something you would

454
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<v Speaker 1>want to dive into forever if you were forced to do.

455
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<v Speaker 4>That, That's a good question, I would probably say, because.

456
00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:05.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know I would probably say the stepmommy stuff.

457
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:10.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the milf content is what I would probably

458
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<v Speaker 4>stick with.

459
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Just because.

460
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 4>I have found that it's such a it's not it

461
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:24.720
<v Speaker 4>is a niche, but it's not really because I think all.

462
00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Men that were once younger.

463
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:34.599
<v Speaker 4>Grow up having this fetish about, you know, mils, about

464
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.160
<v Speaker 4>these women that are a little bit older. They have

465
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 4>fake breasts, they whatever, they you know, are more experienced

466
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.640
<v Speaker 4>than the girls their age, so on and so forth,

467
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:49.519
<v Speaker 4>and then they actually get to that age where they're

468
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:51.759
<v Speaker 4>the same age as the MILFs, and they're still into

469
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.839
<v Speaker 4>the MILFs. Sure, so I feel like it's such a

470
00:26:54.880 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 4>broad age range that you're not having to hit. It's

471
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 4>not really a niche. It's a genre, I guess, yeah,

472
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 4>for sure. Really, Yeah, so that's what I would stick with,

473
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 4>I think because it's fun. It's fun the film, like.

474
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, and it's never gonna I'm never gonna age

475
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<v Speaker 2>out of it.

476
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Sure, well gonna hit you'll age into the guilf category eventually,

477
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:24.039
<v Speaker 1>but I think you got to hit like seventy five

478
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>for that.

479
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hopefully by then, I'm no longer hopeful by then,

480
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:32.440
<v Speaker 4>my buttholes no longer fresh on the internet.

481
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, let's and.

482
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>No hate, no hate to my guilfs. Dude, no noy

483
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 2>to my gilfs.

484
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you a quick, quick, quick story. I

485
00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>interviewed someone the other day. I will not say who

486
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 1>it is. And if anyone's listening to this and they go, oh,

487
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 1>is it this episode he released, I will not release

488
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 1>that episode. Actually it's a shame I was. I was

489
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 1>having not a good time with her. She's actually kind

490
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 1>of a led in a specific niche. But whatever, I'm

491
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 1>having a decent time talk. But the whole time she's

492
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>just complaining. She's like, I don't get booked anywhere. I

493
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.079
<v Speaker 1>never get booked. And it's like, oh, your attitude's not great,

494
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 1>but it's I never get booked. I never get booked.

495
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.240
<v Speaker 3>D da da da da da da. Then it ends

496
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>and she's like, that was good. That was nice.

497
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 1>She goes, I just never get booked anywhere. I'm like, okay,

498
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:24.839
<v Speaker 1>I go, well, you used to direct a lot you

499
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 1>She complained the entire episode. Younger girls coming in the

500
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.160
<v Speaker 1>industry just work for free. No one wants to booked

501
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>me because of the there's all these younger girls. So

502
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>in my head, I go, well, you used to direct

503
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:37.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of videos and a lot of scenes. And

504
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 1>going back to the times you were talking about the

505
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Jenna Jamison times, why not try and bring along some

506
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of these younger people shoot the content, do this and that.

507
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.599
<v Speaker 1>She flips on me. She starts yelling, no one wants

508
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>unsolicited advice. You need to shut up. Go ahead, just

509
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>give me more. And I just went, you know what,

510
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 1>fuck this, I'm out of here. Can I ask is

511
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>there anyone that has helped you ment or? It wouldn't

512
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>be this lady, by the way, Has anyone helped you mentor?

513
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>And I won't give the name. I'll tell you after

514
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 1>if you want, but no one else? Has anyone helped

515
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 1>you like mentor? In this industry? Do you have anyone

516
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>that you've kind of looked up to? And so many

517
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 1>times I see women come on the independent circuit and

518
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>then mainstream and then there's someone they and it's not

519
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 1>a negative thing, but they're like, oh my god, this

520
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 1>person is like my oh, she's my jewels. She's so helpful,

521
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>she works on scenes with me. Do you have anyone

522
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>like that? It's okay if you don't, so.

523
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 4>I I'll tell you, honestly, someone that I can credit

524
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 4>to kind of mentoring me through this journey is Max Fill's.

525
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:43.319
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

526
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I know that's.

527
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 4>Really an odd thing to say, but if I ever

528
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 4>needed any Max and I had great chemistry from jump,

529
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 4>not only as shoe shoe partners, but also just it's

530
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 4>really and so I can I can even now go

531
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 4>to Max and be like, hey, what's up with this?

532
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Or do you know about this?

533
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:08.799
<v Speaker 4>And he'll help me through it and so, and especially

534
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:13.519
<v Speaker 4>in the pro realm, like he had anything I needed,

535
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 4>anything I could ask I I.

536
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Went to him with and he's helped me.

537
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 4>There were a lot yeah yeah, so and then as

538
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:27.519
<v Speaker 4>far as like I also, our social media goes too,

539
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 4>Like I didn't know. All I was doing was social

540
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:35.480
<v Speaker 4>media either, no idea getting into this. And there was

541
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:39.200
<v Speaker 4>someone that mentored me. Her name's Ona Artist and she.

542
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Was not.

543
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 4>She's not a porn star. She blew up as an

544
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 4>Instagram girl. She was on she had her own website

545
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.599
<v Speaker 4>for a long time and she was doing webcam on website.

546
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I was watching.

547
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:58.240
<v Speaker 4>Vice Viceland one night and she just happened to be

548
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:03.240
<v Speaker 4>on this episode of slut Her. And this was back

549
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 4>in like I don't know twenty seventeen or something like this.

550
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching this.

551
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:11.880
<v Speaker 4>A couple years later, when I started getting into the

552
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 4>sex industry, I immediately remembered her, followed her, and she

553
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 4>was selling this course for how to become a large

554
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.960
<v Speaker 4>Instagram model, and so I thought, I need to do

555
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 4>that because I have no idea what I'm and so

556
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 4>I ended up buying the course.

557
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.839
<v Speaker 2>But then she ended up helping me through so much.

558
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:43.079
<v Speaker 4>And that also there was a lot of girls in there,

559
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 4>like all in there together, and we were able to learn.

560
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 4>Everybody kind of knew a little bit. They brought something

561
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 4>to the table. Everybody brought something to the table from

562
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:01.160
<v Speaker 4>one thing or another. And early on I had learned

563
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:04.160
<v Speaker 4>the ropes on sex fanther how to work sex fanther

564
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 4>really well, and so that was kind of what I

565
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 4>brought to the table and was teaching people. And so

566
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 4>I learned a lot from her and from that group too.

567
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Everything I've heard, I'm going to specify the difference. Everything

568
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I've heard about the back room of a strip club,

569
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 1>not the VIP room. The dancer room is just girls

570
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>going at each other's throats with razor blades, wanting to

571
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:29.759
<v Speaker 1>fight Da da da, And then everything I've heard in

572
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 1>the porn industry is all of you women are somewhat

573
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>helpful to each other and willing to give advice or

574
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>willing to do this and that and whatever. It's what

575
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.359
<v Speaker 1>does that? Is there just enough business around? Do you

576
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:45.519
<v Speaker 1>ever feel like, oh, I'm competing and you don't have

577
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.759
<v Speaker 1>to say names. Do you ever feel like I'm competing

578
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 1>with this person, I'm whatever, or you just build yourself.

579
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do not feel like I'm competing. But I'm

580
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>not like that ever. I've never been like that. My

581
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>whole life felt like I was competing with anybody.

582
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 4>And so I think I think that quality and mentality.

583
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 4>I am not fighting for my life here. I also

584
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:14.200
<v Speaker 4>think because I was older getting into this, I'm not

585
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 4>there's not forty there's not forty thousand mills. There's a

586
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.720
<v Speaker 4>couple of us that can do the job.

587
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, sure, yeah, I'm not.

588
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:32.400
<v Speaker 4>We're not fighting for In fact, I'm I'm so excited

589
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:39.279
<v Speaker 4>for this scene on Wednesday, La on Sunday, And sorry

590
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 4>if I got super loud.

591
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Did I blow your ear pods?

592
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>No?

593
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, You're totally good.

594
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 4>No, You're I actually get to start alongside uh Cherie

595
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 4>Deville and Rachelle Ryan.

596
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that's yeah, Cherry Deville has become the

597
00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:01.359
<v Speaker 1>face of angry. Didn't she do the ads at the

598
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>beginning of when they were banning porn across the country.

599
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I thought she was the face of porn hub that

600
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, you need the ID check man. There was

601
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:12.639
<v Speaker 1>probably a lot of dudes who looked at her and

602
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>were just like, I'll just beat.

603
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 3>It to this. I don't give a fuck yet, Yeah.

604
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 2>What are you selling? Okay? Yeah?

605
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:28.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I'm I've worked with Rashelle before for content uh,

606
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 4>and I was kind of starstruck then and so now

607
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm just super excited to work with those two.

608
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:35.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited.

609
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to ask you. Do you

610
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>get starstruck at all? It sounds like you do, but

611
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>like when what does it though? Is it someone that

612
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>you know is like a phenomenal performer. Is it someone

613
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>with a huge presence, Like what really gets you? Is

614
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>it someone that like I used to search her and

615
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>now and get to fuck her?

616
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.119
<v Speaker 4>So there are there is some of that element to

617
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 4>it where it's like, oh my god, I watched this

618
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 4>person ten years ago.

619
00:34:58.760 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's.

620
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:03.679
<v Speaker 4>It's where they're at in their career that I'm like,

621
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 4>I want to do, I want to be there. So

622
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 4>it's really it's really truly the people that have their

623
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 4>shit together on the end, that are doing so well

624
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 4>that I'm like, that's my ment, That's who I want

625
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 4>to be in my life, that's who I want to

626
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 4>work besides. So, yeah, it's not so much huge presence

627
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 4>or anything like that. I've never I've never really cared

628
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 4>about that type of thing, not that that doesn't play

629
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 4>a part, of course, but it's the people that are

630
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 4>just fucking on it, that are killing it that that's

631
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 4>what I want to That's what I want to do,

632
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 4>That's what I want to be. So so to be

633
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 4>able to work with two people that I know for

634
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 4>sure hit that is really super exciting.

635
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 1>I asked you before a trend or thing you really like,

636
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this, what is a niche, a

637
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>trend to cank whatever. I used to call this game

638
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>sack and it was it stood for shit animals. Kids,

639
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>we're taking those out of the equation. Anytime I would

640
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:10.679
<v Speaker 1>ask a girl this question, they would go, well, I

641
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you know do this with a kid.

642
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:13.360
<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, yeah.

643
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 1>No, if you would, I wouldn't want to talk to

644
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you anymore. What is something that's in the adult world

645
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>but you just don't really have any interest in pursuing

646
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:25.159
<v Speaker 1>like a kink and a fetish or a genre, you

647
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:25.679
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

648
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, race play.

649
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a great one.

650
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>And I always when I asked that other question, a

651
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of women just going nothing at all. I'll do

652
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 1>it all, I'll do anything. And that's my comeback. I go,

653
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>how about race play? And they go, oh, no, no, no,

654
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:40.519
<v Speaker 1>not that, no.

655
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:40.719
<v Speaker 3>No no.

656
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 2>In fact, it's real funny.

657
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 4>And the reason this isn't my brain right now currently

658
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:50.000
<v Speaker 4>is because I was working. I was doing video chats

659
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 4>at like six o'clock in the morning and I was

660
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 4>on sex Panther and I had the sky on a

661
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 4>video chat and he was wanted to do race play

662
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.360
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like I She's like, no, it's fine, say it.

663
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm into it. And I was like, I'm not, Like, I'm.

664
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 3>Not no sure.

665
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Like I've interviewed black performers before, female and male, and

666
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten both answers. I've gotten from women. Avery Jane

667
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.519
<v Speaker 1>is a phenomenal performer and she has told me, you know,

668
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>no chance, Like I'll fucking take your head off if

669
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you even you know.

670
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:27.119
<v Speaker 3>And I get that.

671
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 1>And I've talked to Anna Fox, Anna Fox, however you

672
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 1>say her damn name. She's a legend, right, I got

673
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 1>it wrong throughout the entire episode. By the way, when

674
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I talk to her about it, and she's very vocal

675
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>about race relations and this and that online totally great.

676
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:43.159
<v Speaker 1>But when I talked to her about it, she goes,

677
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>he has a performance, Like maybe she's changed since then,

678
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and if fine, that's totally acceptable. But she's like, it's

679
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a performance at whatever. I've interviewed John Legendary, who's a

680
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>great performer, and he has told me, yo, I'm fucking

681
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>this girl.

682
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't give a shit what she says to me,

683
00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 3>like if she wants to call me whatever.

684
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's always a weird line because like, for sure,

685
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you're a performer, someone is paying you for the performance.

686
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:12.840
<v Speaker 1>If it's a black gentleman and they want it, part

687
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of me goes like, not that you should do it

688
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>at all, it's your comfort, But part of me is like,

689
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 1>is it okay because he wants it and it's part

690
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 1>of the performance. I think that's for African American people

691
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to determine for themselves. I don't think I should be

692
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the one really pointing that out. I commend you for

693
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>not doing it, unless, of course, Lex Steel came around

694
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 1>and wanted it. Then I'd be like, and I know

695
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I've seen you've worked with him before, but I would

696
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 1>be like if you were my wife and Lex Steel

697
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:43.519
<v Speaker 1>came to you and was like, hey, Lex, some rays

698
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.159
<v Speaker 1>play and you're like, I'm not comfortable, I'd go Andy, please,

699
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 1>he's a legend. Just call him whatever he wants.

700
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Please. But I understand and respect it.

701
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:59.559
<v Speaker 4>I just I you know, I feel like I've always

702
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:05.239
<v Speaker 4>grown up with you know that that whole the word and.

703
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Everything is just it's base. It was.

704
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 4>It was born in based hate. And I still feel

705
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:15.199
<v Speaker 4>that way, you know. So so it's a word that

706
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 4>I just and I know it's like any other kink.

707
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 4>It's like, you know, you have you have the guys

708
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 4>that lost their jobs in two thousand and seven and

709
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.840
<v Speaker 4>went from being an executive executive that was making a

710
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.599
<v Speaker 4>million dollars a year to losing their jobs and they

711
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.199
<v Speaker 4>lost everything. The pay pigk kink came from that. Really,

712
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 4>that's where it fucking came from I didn't think about it.

713
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:43.000
<v Speaker 4>We didn't hear about pay pigs before that, did you know.

714
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.280
<v Speaker 1>That's a great point. I never considered that before. That

715
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 1>is really insightful.

716
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it stems from people just leaning into things that

717
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 4>could have been a trauma. Was probably a trauma, and

718
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:00.840
<v Speaker 4>this is this is I'm into this.

719
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 2>So I get it. I understand it.

720
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:08.639
<v Speaker 4>But as a performer, uh, and I get I also

721
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.719
<v Speaker 4>understand inside with what she was saying. As being a performer,

722
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.599
<v Speaker 4>I get that, And I no hate to anybody that's

723
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 4>comfortable with that.

724
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not, you know, totally get it, totally get it.

725
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Anything else that you wouldn't want to dive into any

726
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>other kind of niche genre, fetish, anything like that.

727
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm not into the little fetish, you know, like the

728
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 4>very it's they're called the littles, and is that when good?

729
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 4>It's really it's the girls that are super young. They're

730
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 4>like nineteen twenty and they're playing super.

731
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 3>Young girls, right. Sure.

732
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 4>So that's one thing that I want to avoid, especially

733
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:56.639
<v Speaker 4>as a MILF, because they'll try and cast me with

734
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that.

735
00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't because then we're on.

736
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 4>Average of like you know, it's distasteful to me.

737
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 3>You so are you?

738
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>You're comfortable with age play, You're not comfortable with it

739
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:12.760
<v Speaker 1>being painted so low?

740
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

741
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I'm comfortable with age play because I'm a

742
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 4>milf and I'm obviously you know milf stuff is with

743
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 4>cubs and all that.

744
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm always someone's step mom.

745
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 3>But I'm always someone's step mom.

746
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I am.

747
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 4>But when the girls are being casted as like eleven twelve, yeah,

748
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 4>that's crazy. No that I want to avoid that one too.

749
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's smart. That would fall into like

750
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.519
<v Speaker 1>the SEC category for me. Sorry, I had a little

751
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>technical issue there. Just so we know, I'm speaking to

752
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Andy Anderson at Andy five. You know where you can

753
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>find her links in the episode description. So let me

754
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 1>talk about the content moving forward. What you said the

755
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 1>scene you're doing Rachelle Ryan and Cherry Deville awesome. Do

756
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 1>you have anything else you want to tackle on the horizon?

757
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you have you shot a gang bang yet, like

758
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a like a real you solo gang bang, like I'm pro,

759
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>like pro or just whatever?

760
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Can I find content of you gang bang?

761
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Back in September for content?

762
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.760
<v Speaker 4>And at the time, I was really proud of it

763
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 4>because it was something I hadn't done. Now looking back

764
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 4>on it, it was kind of a shit show. Not

765
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 4>because of the not because of the male talent. They

766
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:37.320
<v Speaker 4>were all fucking awesome, amazing, and not because of me.

767
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>It was just it was just not shot.

768
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Sure, great, So I want to go back to that

769
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:48.280
<v Speaker 4>and kind of polish do another one, polish it up

770
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:48.760
<v Speaker 4>a little.

771
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, are you shooting these or do you have

772
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 1>a guy you bring in to shoot for you?

773
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Yea, I know I have people shoot for me.

774
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, cool, cool? Cool?

775
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>So what are you going to to try and tackle differently?

776
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Is it just light and no offense? You know, I'm

777
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>sure it was, you know, it just confusion? But is

778
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>it lit wrong? Is it just angles?

779
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.519
<v Speaker 3>Not great?

780
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 4>The audio was kind of a mess. Yeah, the angles

781
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 4>weren't great. There's also like it was a roaming camera

782
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 4>and when you're trying to I don't know, when you're

783
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:29.519
<v Speaker 4>trying to film a gang bang, like you really it

784
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 4>has to be thought out a little more, really, And

785
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 4>I think I was just like, okay, free for all,

786
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:37.159
<v Speaker 4>let's go, because I didn't you know, I'm like, I

787
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:39.119
<v Speaker 4>don't know what I'm doing here to you guys.

788
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:42.119
<v Speaker 2>No, Okay, let's just I got two holes.

789
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:50.639
<v Speaker 4>Let's go three three, I can't agree, Oh, let's go.

790
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:55.000
<v Speaker 4>You know it was a mess, so uh and my camera,

791
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 4>my camera guy did great. Like I said, you just

792
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 4>you have to go in with the plank of Okay, guys,

793
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:03.800
<v Speaker 4>we're going to go here and we're going to do this,

794
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 4>and and the camera guy is gonna stay here, like

795
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 4>you just really have to think about that. And we

796
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 4>did not, and it's okay, Like still made us some

797
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 4>good money.

798
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Like again, we go back to I go back to

799
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:20.159
<v Speaker 1>angry Twitter guy writing at you from some basement somewhere

800
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>going All she does is she just gets fucked on

801
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>camera and that's how she makes all her money. You

802
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>just described to me that a shot list has to

803
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 1>be designed for this entire thing. Do you know how

804
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>intensive that is? And plus, by the way, you're going

805
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 1>to be on your back the whole time, so how

806
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 1>are you you know? Yeah? It just uh, the respect

807
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I have on a business level and a production level

808
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 1>for performers has only grown since I've talked to them,

809
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>because I, you know, incorrectly, I came into doing this

810
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.920
<v Speaker 1>talking to beautiful women who have sex for a living

811
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and go, oh, your life must be so great and

812
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>your life is great, but it's not as easy as

813
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>it sounds.

814
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Listen.

815
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 4>I I had corporate jobs. I worked for FEMA. I've

816
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 4>do for FEMA for years. The hardest job I've ever

817
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:10.800
<v Speaker 4>had is this one. I do the most work being

818
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.440
<v Speaker 4>foreign star than I've ever done work. You know, I

819
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.599
<v Speaker 4>went to college. I was a stripper when I was

820
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:21.800
<v Speaker 4>in college. I was also a cheerleader, did not sleep.

821
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.679
<v Speaker 4>And I work harder now than I thought it then,

822
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:31.000
<v Speaker 4>So like, oh, no one will ever understand. They just think,

823
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, oh we're terrible. People were just on our

824
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:38.079
<v Speaker 4>back and that's not and it's not true. True, it's

825
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:41.679
<v Speaker 4>not true. Yeah they're working at a weapons manufacturing plant.

826
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah yeah. If you don't have.

827
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Business sense, you will not make it in this industry.

828
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 3>I've asked this before. Do you who do you?

829
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 1>And it's just a great example of hard work in

830
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>this industry. Who do you think makes more money? A

831
00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>ten out of ten with no social media sense? We're

832
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a seven out of ten who knows how to work

833
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the algorithm?

834
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, the seven out of ten every time?

835
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:08.119
<v Speaker 3>Right out of ten.

836
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:14.559
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I have seen girls that are not the prettiest girls.

837
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 4>And these girls are out there making millions of dollars. Yeah,

838
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 4>and you know I mean going into that like people

839
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 4>can talk all the shit they want. Some of the

840
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.079
<v Speaker 4>smartest people I've ever seen are in this industry.

841
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to ammer ant.

842
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, so she doesn't she doesn't do she doesn't

843
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:38.800
<v Speaker 4>shoot pro porn.

844
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.800
<v Speaker 2>She's not truly in the porn industry.

845
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 4>I think she does solo work on her of Okay,

846
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 4>but still that is something sure, and look at what

847
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 4>she's done, like, look at the things that she continues

848
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 4>to do.

849
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:56.199
<v Speaker 2>She is incredibly intelligent.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah there is there's a whole team and there

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<v Speaker 4>of course we know, but she started that on her own.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the team doesn't show up. They don't knock on

853
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<v Speaker 1>the door one day and go, oh andy, do you

854
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<v Speaker 1>want to be a superstar now?

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<v Speaker 3>Or you have to build up to that team. Right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>People can say what they want to say.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I said, some of the most intelligent people

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<v Speaker 4>are in this industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, yeah, I definitely think so. Willman ask last

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<v Speaker 1>question here? Then I have a quick little social media

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<v Speaker 1>thing for you. But last question, what is the future?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you see this going? Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>dollar amount you want to get to? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a number of scenes? Do you have an age? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you see an endgame? Or you like I said earlier

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on the cover of Guilf Hunter sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>like when do you want to get out?

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<v Speaker 3>If you do want to get out, do you have

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<v Speaker 3>a metric?

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't have an age that I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get out. I just.

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<v Speaker 4>There is burnout at some point. There is, because it's

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<v Speaker 4>like I'll tell you. And I was talking to my

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<v Speaker 4>husband about this earlier today because he, oh, I make

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<v Speaker 4>really good money on sex at their menks. I make

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00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 4>really good money and it's video chatting and sexteen and

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<v Speaker 4>he said, look, you need to work that into the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're home.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to be working that. Because I had just

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<v Speaker 2>told him.

881
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:34.079
<v Speaker 4>I came downstairs and I told him how much money

882
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.199
<v Speaker 4>I made on it, and he was like, oh, fuck,

883
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<v Speaker 4>Like you need to be working not as much as

884
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<v Speaker 4>you can in your home. And I'm like, look, but

885
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<v Speaker 4>here's the thing. Yes, you're right, I should, but I

886
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<v Speaker 4>I let's think about this when I'm home. I typically

887
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<v Speaker 4>i'm two weeks home, two weeks gone, and so in

888
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<v Speaker 4>the two weeks that I'm home, I'm diddling myself on camera.

889
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 4>I have to shoot content scenes and then I also

890
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<v Speaker 4>have to have my own personal sex. So then you know,

891
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<v Speaker 4>like I'm gonna fly off to LA on Sunday and

892
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<v Speaker 4>I'm shooting every day, sometimes twice a day while I'm gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, it's you know, I could I could see

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<v Speaker 1>his point if you had a metric, if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were like, once we get to ten million, we can

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<v Speaker 1>both retire and be out then. And also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not his holes that he's telling you to, you know,

898
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<v Speaker 1>or he's not having to do it. It would probably

899
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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit different if he had this sex

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<v Speaker 1>with guys on that and no, nope, yeah go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told him, like, you know, it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different. I know guys could sit there.

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<v Speaker 4>I know guys can sit there a mole for fucking

904
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<v Speaker 4>twenty hours a day. I was like, it's different. You're

905
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<v Speaker 4>not putting stuff inside your body, like, it's different. We

906
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<v Speaker 4>we burn out, you know. And so I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>have a number or an age. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 4>when I decide that oh shit, okay, I'm there is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a point where X is getting to

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<v Speaker 4>be mundane and I never want that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when I start to feel.

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<v Speaker 4>That, that's my that popping point, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I plan to do prior to that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think within the next probably two years, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to start on Twitch or on kick and start streaming,

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<v Speaker 4>and I, you know, like, I'm funny enough and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>creative enough to.

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<v Speaker 2>To pull people in on that.

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<v Speaker 4>So start doing that and kind of doing a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of cosplay stuff and kind of move on segue

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<v Speaker 4>I think into that and into YouTube. So my husband

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<v Speaker 4>has always pushed for years and years and years because

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<v Speaker 4>I've managed my own OnlyFans for a long time, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's like, I think that you should manage some of

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<v Speaker 4>these girls. And I'm like, fuck that. Have you met

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<v Speaker 4>any of these girls?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you know, it's so funny. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember my story from earlier, he gave you

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<v Speaker 1>some unsolicited advice that you should manage girls, and you

930
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<v Speaker 1>yelled at him. That's what we don't do, folks. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't offer unsolicited advice. Ladies and gentlemen, my guests tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Anderson, you know exactly where you can find her

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<v Speaker 1>at Andy five.

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<v Speaker 3>You know our rule here go through the episode description.

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<v Speaker 3>Follow everywhere that's free.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to at least follow everywhere that's free the

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<v Speaker 1>bare minimum, Twitter, Instagram, all of that. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>want to direct you again the site we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>at A N D I E five That is the

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<v Speaker 1>VIP one. You go and sign up for that. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to support independent content creators. We want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure we don't go back to the old days of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five when I was just a wee

944
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<v Speaker 1>boy searching the internet and I didn't know women were

945
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<v Speaker 1>being treated so badly behind the scenes. Jenna Jamison let

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<v Speaker 1>us all know. Andy Anderson, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on with you now.

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<v Speaker 2>Nie