Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody.
Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of Profit Picks. If you are new,
we alaly start this show by being transparent. Didn't do
any shows over the weekend. I bet a lot of
NFL over the weekend. It was like seven and six,
but I lost my best bet, so it wasn't that good.
It wasn't good at all, So gotta do a little
bit better.
Speaker 1: Than seven and six. NBA.
Speaker 2: Well, NFL props, though they've been hot all season this weekend,
that was a bright spot for me. And now on
the season, I think I'm ten and three on NFL props.
And then I did play some NBA. I've hit ten
of my last fifteen NBA, so we'll try to roll
that into today. We have nine games to talk about. Veno,
good to be back with you. How's everything been for you?
Speaker 3: Thanks for good ski. NFL was good again this weekend,
so remain atop the wager. Twelk candycappers in the NFL
forty five and zero point six units for the season.
Was a good job. There was a good job in
college basketball first week seven and three seventy percent, so
that went well. NBA, unfortunate for me, lost last night
U Kapper will laugh at me. Golden State team total
over one twenty and a half gets to one fourteen.
Not good enough in that game. Probably should have just
played the side they dominated second half there. But all's good,
no complaints here, and we'll see if we can get
to this NBA car TOEA. It looks like there's some
stuff to me at least that sticks out Ski, So
we'll talk it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see if we can open up that wallet. All right,
We'll go in rotation order like we always do. That
means the first one up is five fifteen five sixteen
Lakers and Charlotte opened up minus seven and a half
for LA. It did go up to nine, but I'm
seeing Miles British just got.
Speaker 1: I know. It's our upgraded to available to play.
Speaker 2: It's coming back down to eight and a half total
open two twenty nine and a half. We're looking at
two thirty two and a half right now. I see
Reeves has been upgraded to probable. There will be no Lebron,
no Theorro, no Vincent Nolamelo, Josh Green, Brandon Miller or
Grant Williams for this Charlotte team. Nolamelo, no Hornets, for
me and I forget you know who. The Lakers just
played last but they lost as a favorite. It was
like an embarrassing loss. They had no business music Atlanta. Okay,
they had no business losing that game. In my opinion.
For this one, though the Hornets do have a little
bit of a rest advantage, had two days off.
Speaker 1: I believe it's just no LaMelo, no Me for the Hornets.
Speaker 2: So I think that the Lakers should be a shame,
and I think that they would play a full game tonight.
It would be Lakers or past for me. What do
you think about that game?
Speaker 3: Well? I played, I played la the points eight and
a half number, but I mostly I played the head
coach here ski jj Reddick was pretty Usually he's got
a lot to say, you know, he doesn't mind talking afterwards,
but he was pretty brief with what he had to
say the other night after that loss.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: Is his basic His whole basic thing was there's not
a lot to like about what we did tonight. He
wasn't thrilled with any aspect of the game, which I
know we try to handicap coaches a lot on this
show and a lot of times when they choose to
speak it's meaningful, and I think in Reddick's case, a
couple of other things. He said he saw nothing from
the team early in the game, with a little throughout
the contest. The praise at all indicated he's not willing
to dismiss this performance and just simply move on. He's
going to make a point that the team looks at
it and probably plays better. You combine that with what
you just I mean, no LaMelo, no Charlotte's just not good.
And there was a couple of things our guy from
Duke had and he's been playing well. I mean, he's
been playing well. If you've been riding his props, I
think you've probably been making money. But he said, you
can't just come out and play soft like that in
the first quarter. Hopefully some guys can get healthy soon.
Obviously a little bit of indication that they're shorthanded, that
they really need LaMelo in the lineup, that they need
Brandon Miller in this lineup, And I don't disagree with
any of that. The defense is horrible. I think if
Freddick has his way, the Lakers will play better defense
here tonight in this game. So for me, it was
Lakers and I generally like West versus East, especially when
there's a class difference, because I think the West is
a better conference overall. So you got a good team
from the West against the miserable team from the East
without a couple of their best players. So I played
the Lakers here, see how it goes. But I think
they can win this game by ten plus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of with you there. Lakers have been
a dead overteam. They haven't been playing the best defense.
But without LaMelo, you know, no pays. I don't know.
I don't want to touch the total, but I agree
with you on The Lake Show all right Tomorrow says
maybe even early says they'll be fired up after the loss.
That is actually pretty appilling. Couldn't tuck you off a
first quarter or first half. Next game up, Blazers and
Magic opened up minus three for the Magic. Looks like
two go to open two thirty four and a half
as high as two thirty six as far as the
injury report, Scoot with East Tyble, Wesley all out, Suggs
mo Wagner out for the Magic. Magic on a back
to back, So you have the Blazers with a little
bit of rest advents here Man the Magic have well,
you know, they did play good in the first game
versus Celtics. I guess it's not too surprising to see
the Celtics come back and win in a quick revenge game.
Another coach, Robno, who is not happy with the way
his team has been performing, and he's not happy with
the questions he's being asked. Seems like he's on the
hot seat. You know, rest advantage is important. Now, you're
just asking these teams to win the game. There's no
points in alved really to be It's tough. It's tough
to back the Blazers to win games. So I don't know.
I think that Orlando's the hungrier team. I just don't
know if I can put my money on it.
Speaker 1: How do you feel?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think We've talked a lot about Jamal Mosley
this season, and Orlando's switched to being more up tempo
than what they were last year, and it's not going away.
I mean, you read behind or inside the lines of
his quotes after that game, you'll understand that they still
want to play fast and that it's still somewhat of
an evaluation experimentation period for this team. Here's his exact words,
we don't want to go with the highs and lows.
The team understands that things happen when guys are in
the right spots, when we push the pace, the stops
that we need in order to get out and run.
Those are all process pieces and that's what we're continuing
to do. So they're still working through some stuff here.
As to the back to backs here at the minutes
were huge, Ski, and there were big minutes right against
Boston yesterday. That's an important game for Orlando to try
and pull off the home sweep. Franz Wagner thirty seven minutes,
Paolo thirty four and a half minutes, Desmond Bane thirty
five minutes. And now you're going to ask these guys
to come out again against a team that really wants
to run. In Portland. What I found interesting here and
maybe we can capitalize on it is Portland is a
little frustrated with the way they've been playing early on.
According to what I have here, Portland, we'll put an
emphasis on avoiding falling behind early. Thiago splitters group is
halftime three of the last four games. We need to
start games better. I think that lately we've had to
get punched in the face first and then wake up
to start to play the second half. That's not good enough.
League is too tough to wait for that. Hopefully from
the get go tonight we are ready to play and
get what we want the way that we want. So
maybe a first half play with Portland here, But when
you play these back to backs, I think generally.
Speaker 1: The second half usually, or at least.
Speaker 3: Generally, you would want Orlando first half right, because you
would think they'd tiere second half. Portland thinks that they are.
At least Portland's indicating that they want to play hard
first half. I know it's going to be played with pace.
To your point, my initial thinking would be that Orlando
runs out of gas in the second half, not the first,
and therefore maybe that's why Portland's only getting these couple
of points. Orlando hasn't been the best defensive team, and
I don't know that we can expect it out of
them tonight. I didn't play the game. I just found
it interesting that Portland's going to focus on first half here.
If you look at Orlando's first half numbers, four and
six overall in the first half, or Lando only two
and three at home Portland down the road first half,
you know what, on the road three and one ski,
but overall not good overall not why not bad either
five and four. So in Portland may be nippicking saying
that they're not playing well early, but they've been a
pretty good road first half team.
Speaker 2: You know, thinking about it. Also, they were favorites in
that last game that they lost to the Heat. Heat
were missing Bam right, and maybe they were missing somebody else,
but they did lose as a favorite. You mentioned Thiago's
splitter being unhappy with them. I mean not only back
to back for the Magic. It is their third game
of four nights. Maybe there is some some reasons to
get there with the Blazers, whether it's early or full game.
Jay Patrino saying first half over, I don't really have
any strong opinions about the total, and to Big Baby says,
thanks for the Franz report.
Speaker 1: I was talking about Moe Wagner. He's out. Franz is
playing all right.
Speaker 2: I think we can keep it going here Wizards and Pistons.
Pistons did get that dub versus six Ers last night. K.
I'm a big K fan, big K guy, probably my
I think, yeah, it's my favorite point guard right now,
one of my favorite players in general. Guy has that
Detroit team eight and two. I don't think we've seen Detroit.
I mean since Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton and Ben Wallace.
I haven't seen the Pistons looking like this.
Speaker 1: So it makes sense.
Speaker 2: I mean when you look at how good they've been
so far, even though they're on the back to back,
and then how pathetic the Wizards have been, like they're
just getting blown out on a nightly basis.
Speaker 1: So I'll ask you Rob.
Speaker 2: You know, rest advantage is important, but are the Wizards
just that bad where you got later or stay out
the way.
Speaker 3: I was hoping you were going to say, you're going
to get behind this ugly dog scheme because.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't do it.
Speaker 3: A couple of things here, Kde played forty minutes last night.
It's a bunch Jalen Durhan, who I think we both
like in the middle. He is rim protection, he is scoring,
rebounding the whole nine yard twenty one and sixteen last
night for Jalen Durhan. But he played thirty seven and
a half minutes in that game last night in Detroit.
They're shorthanded to begin with, you know, JB. Bickerstaff, we're
down quite a few bodies. They thought that coming into
the season, depth would be a strength. That proved to
be last night, But will it prove to be on
back to backs? All of that situationally would have you
toward the other side in this game. But as you
pointed out, it is the Wizards, and you have to
put that into consideration here. The Wizards are that bad.
I happen to think that, maybe, you know, I might
hold my nose here Ski and go with the eleven
and a half. I swear it just it lines up
as a game that Detroit shouldn't care about as much.
Maybe Kaye doesn't see forty minutes, not that you need
to play forty minutes against the Wizards. He might be
able to play twenty eight and go rest because the
margin is so big. But I think there's opportunity, you know,
on the other side of the on the other side
of the floor. The Washington coach had a lot of
things to say, and again I don't know what you
make of what he's trying to say. How competitive we
were last game, and we like to get into these
close games and we're making strides. We don't see those strides.
I mean not in our business point spreads, totals. We're
not seeing any strides out of your team, coach. But
he thinks he saw something last game that might carry over.
I think if I had allow would be on the
if I had to play, I would be on the
Washington side and just pray that they could sneak in
under eleven and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they're not motivated tonight like tomorrow, says.
Speaker 1: Jason.
Speaker 2: Gets a good point too, He says, I don't think
Pigeons are the type of team to take a day off,
even if the Wizards, with all those losing seasons they.
Speaker 1: Had said, I mean, that could be a good point too,
right there.
Speaker 2: Situationally though, everything does point to Wizards rest advantage. Yeah,
and just you know, you talked about those minutes for
the Pistons, just fading that on the back to back,
so I can understand. But man, those Wizards have been
I don't even know if they're just a dirty dog
that's filthy.
Speaker 1: We'll see.
Speaker 2: Next one up is Cleveland and Miami. The opener I
have here is eight maybe the open yeah, opener half
here is eight. I'm looking at seven and a half
here we go. You know, those toddles are starting to
get pushed up open two forty three as high as
two forty eight. Injuries, Larry Nash Junior questionable for the Calves.
Still know Max Streuce, everybody else available. Heat will be
without Bam, Tyler Herro and uh of course Terry Rose here.
Speaker 1: I'll keep his name alive on the show. You do
have you do have?
Speaker 2: Drew Smith probable for this Heat team. Looking at the
situation here, it is third game in four nights for
both of these teams, and the Heat, I'm not mistaken
that's that's the other side, right They just played the Blazers,
I think it was, and they won that game, and
they were an underdog, So coming off of win as
a dog could be a little bit of a letdown spot.
At the same time, this is a Cavs team who
own the Heat last year, you care. I think that
they beat them every time last year, I know that,
and only one game was not by the margin that
we're looking at here tonight. So I think that the
Calves just in general match up well with this Miami team.
And when I think about that, like Miami likes to
score in the paint. Maybe some Mit Rangers, like they
started off the year shooting a lot of threes and
good from three, but the past few games it hasn't
been like that, So they're not gonna have a lot
of success in the paint. With Jared Allen and Evan
Mobley down there, Calves just getting a little healthier. I
want to take the Calves here, Rob, you know, can
you talk me off?
Speaker 3: It's hard to it really is, because as you mentioned,
even in that playoff series last year, at one of
those games, Cleveland beat this team by fifty five points,
and I think it's when that Cleveland can get motivated.
For the interesting thing about Cleveland, Ski, you were talking
about these totals getting pushed up this when we're looking
at now they've bet from two forty three to two
forty seven.
Speaker 1: And a half.
Speaker 3: Cleveland doesn't mind scoring themselves. Miami for what it's worth.
Eric Spolstra, I'm not putting the brakes on anyone who
wants to attack the rim our. Guys are getting pretty
comfortable in this in this style, and he's you know,
obviously let loose of the reins. It's going to be
up and down. Since Darius Garland returned to the calves,
the game totals have landed two fifty three, two sixty three,
and two fifty, all above what we're looking at tonight.
I think, just based on pace and the ability of
the calves to score, you might be able to chalk
the calves up for one hundred and thirty here. So
on the other side, you're looking for one eighteen to
get it up and over. I don't know that that's
too much to ask for. It's kind of hard at
this Pointski, but I don't know that Miami totals are
yet out of range. That game you talked about with
Portland this fifty three in the first quarter the other night.
Maybe that's what Thiago Splitter was so mad about. Fifty
three in the first quarter. Never seen such a thing
other than an All Star game at almost lean toward
over here. I think Cleveland's the better team. But the
way Miami is just dedicated themselves to playing this fast
and they almost don't mind giving up buckets because they
think they're gonna outscore you. And I don't think they'll
outscore this team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know the heater are gonna play on tempo,
you know, the heat, I would ask you this, you know,
is there a reason to cut it in half? The
heat are five and zero to the first half over
last five games, three and two to the full game over,
Maybe this one dies dies out if the Calves are
whooping that ass tonight. Any thoughts on maybe first half
versus the full game?
Speaker 3: You know what? And surprisingly, I'm just looking at it now,
Ski where we sit as we talk it out here,
it's at one twenty and a half, which to me,
you know, if you're these halftime totals every single day,
as far as the lines are concerned before the game
is played, one twenty and a half is not unreasonable
in these games. I've seen these things listed at one
twenty four and a half, one twenty five, et cetera,
et cetera. This one almost seems a little bit low.
So just first glance, I would have to agree with
you that one twenty and a half doesn't seem like
that big of a number to get over here in
this game. One thing for sure, Cleveland has not yet
played Miami at this you know philosophy, this tempo, the
Miami we knew from last year far different that playoff
Miami than what they brought to the Floyd this year,
So it might take take Cleveland a little bit to
get adjusted to the speed Miami is going to play at.
But I'll go back to one quick point that you
made about no Bam and Mobley and Allen inside. Man,
the buckets should be very easy for Cleveland in this
So maybe first half over one twenty and a half.
I'm as you say, you're going to write it down
on your shortlist, I'm gonna write that one down as
we speak here because I kind of like.
Speaker 2: That, yeah, man, I mean sounding pretty good to me.
I'm looking at looking at these calves hard. I like
that first half of over. I'm looking at these calves
pretty hard man.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe I've gotten away from this a little bit.
I definitely got away from it last year. But over
in general and all my you know, career of capping,
the most important thing to me has been how are
you playing right now? And when I look at the heat,
like they start off the season really really hot, playing
really well lately, I haven't been liking everything I'm seeing
and not rebounding well, you're gonna be without a reboundering
Bam Calves. I mean they got two twin towers down there.
Calves definitely been the better offense and defensive ready team
last five They've dominated this team. I feel like I
have to go with the Calves here. So yeah, I'll
put that on my short list right there. I'm pretty
sure I'll get there with the Calves all right. Next
game up, you know, Spurs and Bulls opened up minus
one for the Spurs. We're looking at four or four
and a half. So it went from two thirty four
and a half up to two as high as two
thirty seven and a half. Take a look at the
Spur the injury report. Luke Cornett questionable, Dylan Harper out here,
Fox will be out there for the Bulls. Giddy's questionable
after getting crossed off the earth. He better play because
he's gonna it's gonna be so much means and he'll
never hear the end of it if he doesn't play tonight.
He's already probably not hearing the end of it, but
it will only get worse. Patrick Williams is probable, Zach Collins,
Kobe White both out because of what I just said,
I think Giddy plays, how effective he'll be We'll see
Darren Fox. He looked good in that first game. I
think he can score versus Bulls defense. I mean, the
Spurs seemed like the easy side to me, honestly, and
I could I could be talking in the dareon Fox points. Yeah,
Spurs are nothing for me and this one Robbino. But
if Giddy's in, the number will come down. And I
do think he's gonna play. So I'm curious, how are
you looking at Spurs Bulls?
Speaker 1: And I'll be right back. I'm still dying just a
little bit. Give me, give me a second.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna say this. I'm already with you on
the Spurs and I'm probably gonna get there with Spurs
team total. Now, remember the beginning of the season when,
and we've talked about it since Billy Donovan, we're going
to be more physical, We're gonna be more defensive oriented.
It kind of showed up early. But for the last
five games that the Chicago Bulls that play, they gave
up one twenty five to the Knicks, one twenty eight
to the Knicks, one twenty six to the Bucks, one
twenty eight to the Cavs. All that defense talk is
eroding quickly all around us here, all around the Bulls.
So I think san Antonio now with seeing it, excuse me,
with the Aaron Fox at the at the helm proud.
Their team total is one nineteen and a half. I
think one twenty, as indicated by the numbers that I
just rattled off, one twenty is not hard for the
Bulls to allow. They're not a good defensive team, as
Billy Donovan wanted us to believe early. They're not as
physical a team as Billy Donovan wanted us to believe,
and it's showing up in these results. If I go
back even a couple more, they gave up one twenty
three to the Hawks. So that's five of their last
seven games where they've given up one twenty or better.
I think san Antonio is well equipped to get that
against this defense. I don't see why it doesn't happen
like the Spurs. Like the Spurs team total here, if
Josh Giddy's in doesn't make much more different, it doesn't
make much difference defensively for the Bulls. They don't become
a better defensive team with Giddy on the floor. So
I'd probably looked those two ways. Ski like us I've
already bet Spurs at a better price than this. I
actually got three and a half but it is pushed
up to four and a half now and I like
over one nineteen and a half Spurs team total.
Speaker 2: All right, so doubling up on this one here from
mister Robert.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: I mean we talked about it. Yeah, Billy Donovan, you know,
talked all that defense. It looked good for a couple
of games. But we know who the Bulls are. That's
it's not gonna last, Robie. No, so expect the Spurs
to score, especially with the Aaron box back in the lineup.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: Spurs and Spurs team total, definitely.
Speaker 3: Give me a quick Billy Donovan forward here Ski He's
he's criticizing his team's offense, not criticizing, but saying that
they're not as good offensively as other teams because, in
his words, we must attack. We've have to find a
way collectively to generate more spacing and penetration. His whole
point is they played Cleveland and Milwaukee in their last
two games, and when they defensively have to defend. Donovan,
Mitchell or Jannis teams generally over commit to those two
guys because they're afraid of them. He's like, we have
nobody on our team that anybody over commits to, so
we don't get those same openings offensively. We got to
find a way to generate those in when you're going
against Wenby at the rim and Darren Fox obviously doesn't
add defense to this team. But point being, Chicago may
have a few extra turnovers here, a few extra misses
that turn into runouts for the Spurs. So I think
I'm all about san Antonio in that game.
Speaker 2: I like that comment tomorrow if you know, you know
about the Grant that fought o wasted screen after get
he got crossed, That's exactly what it looked like, all right,
Bucks and mass the Bucks last night. I'm pretty sure
because I was watching Janni's first LP, I'm pretty sure
that was yesterday. Yeah, yeah, it was yesterday. So Bucks
went the back to back here Dallas with a little
bit of a rest advantage, and Dallas for Rovino, they've
looked absolutely pathetic. I didn't think this team would look
like this. Maybe a lot a lot of it has
to do with Jason Kidd, you know, trying to force
this Cooper flag at point guard. A lot of it
has to do with injuries to Anthony Davis and you
know some of their bigs, et cetera. But damn Rob,
you know they look pathetic. It is the like I said,
second of a back to back for the Bucks. It's
the third game and four nights for both fourth and
six for the Mavericks. The Bucks though, maybe a little bit.
I mean they were the favorite in that last Wait, yeah,
they were the favorite in that last game. I think
I don't. I'm kind of I'm not taking the Mavericks like.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: It's a good spot for them, But do you want
to catch that fall a knife or do you want
them to show you first. I need them to show
me first because the mask they haven't give me any
reason to believe in them.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Well, I'd agree, and I'd agree even more because the
Bucks are off of a loss. That game was hard
for it. You say, the Bucks led for a lot
of that and then Houston pulled away big fourth quarter
out of them. So credit to the Houston Rockets for
pulling that one out. And Milwaukee's generally not been a
good back to back team, especially back to back with travel. However,
you got to win the winnables, and I think if
they had won that game yesterday, I might be looking
at this a little bit differently. But I don't think
they want to lose two in a row here, and
the price is actually conducive to betting the Bucks Dallas
even over the last five ski which I'm looking at
now shout out to u Kappa one more time for
the Moneyballer website. But last five games, Dallas hasn't really
slowed down their tempo whatsoever. And I don't think you
want to go quick with the Honest and the Bucks.
I really don't, So I think there's a lot going
wrong in Dallas. They don't they go fast, they don't
score Milwaukee when they want to, can play enough defense.
I think they're motivated to win here against this team,
and they just as you mentioned the Bigs, the situation
there which was supposed to be and when they're healthy
it will be Gafford Lively Ad. That's a whole lot
different than no Lively, no Ad and Gafford not necessarily
playing at one hundred percent. It's just different. Right now,
no Kyrie at point until probably after the first of
the year, so it's difficult here to play Dallas after
what they shown us. Any team that can lose by
two add home to New Orleans on a back to back,
you know, can lose by six, six or eight to
Milwaukee off of back to back. So I'd probably be
on Bucks or nothing here.
Speaker 1: All right, other books or nothing.
Speaker 2: Steven Young says under two thirty says he thinks every
MAVs game finished under the total. They barely scored one
hundred points versus the Wizards. I mean, not a bad
way to look that MAVs offense has, but you know,
maybe a Buck's defense suffers on the second.
Speaker 1: Of a back to back.
Speaker 2: A lot of different ways you can look at this one.
Not my favorite game of the day. Pelicans and Sons,
I don't know, waste too much time, but Suns open
six went up to eight and a half. That shows
you how sorry the Pelicans are. That total came down
about from two thirty and a half as low as
two twenty five and a half, so by a five
point move there, I think MESI has just been ruled in. Yes,
pull is out, Zion out for Phoenix. Roy O'Neill's probable
Jalen Green did reinjurre that hamstring, or at least that's
what it looked like. He was limping off the court.
He had an hamstring injury before he came back, so
I just think he reaggravated it. I was watching without
the sound. I can't look at the Pelicans, Rovin, know,
I know, I don't really, you know, think of the
Sons as a minus eight and a half team, But
it just feels like.
Speaker 1: This numbers is like that for a reason.
Speaker 2: So do you have anything on Pelicans or Sons or
should we keep it moving right along?
Speaker 3: I have nothing here, Ski. All I would say is
the last time I tried to lay eight and a
half against the Pelicans on the road and with a
bad basketball team, it was Dallas and the Pelicans won
straight up. So I'm not gonna do Phoenix a little
better than Dallas. But I'm not laying eight and a
half again with a bad basketball team at home against
the Pelicans, regardless of who's in their lineup. So just
a big red X through that one didn't play won't play.
Speaker 2: All right, We'll keep it going different looks in the chat.
This next game is very interesting to be here, Robb.
You know T Wolves at the Jazz and this one
opened up. I have to open her at seven and
a half, so that means it hasn't moved. Total came
down from two thirty six, so it's two thirty four
and a half. Injury report as right now, Terrence Shannon
Junior is out for the Timberwolves. For the Jazz, I
mean we know Walker Kessler is done for the year,
right so that's a big blow for them. Kyle Anderson
is questionable. You have Taylor Hendrix also questionable, and Yang
looks like he's out. This is the second of a
back to back for the Wolves, third and fourth, fourth
and sixth for them. For the Jazz, they've had two
days off. The last time they played, it was this
timber Wolves team and they got blown off the Earth.
I think they lost by forty points. Rob You know,
Jazz also on the front end of a back to back,
so situationally, this is absolutely a spot for the Jazz,
and I think it could be like a It's definitely
a fatigue spot for the Timberwolves.
Speaker 1: I can see them.
Speaker 2: You know, they cared about that last game because it's
a cup game, so they whooped them. You know, the
margins matter in a Cup game. They really cared that
much about this one, I don't think so. And the
spread on that last game was like fifteen points. Now
we have seven points after they just lost by forty.
I don't know, Ravino. This is one of those where.
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: And Utah has looked really bad lately. But Utah was
in one of those beast schedule spots. They were playing
so many games in the short time span, and I
think they were all on the road. This is one
of those I just is screaming at me, Rob, you
know right now, like I've seen this before, Rovino, I'm
thinking about taking them Jazz at the house two and
all as a home dog. Can you talk me off?
Speaker 3: The problem for me? And I looked to take Utah
myself just because of the scheduling spot that favors them
against Minnesota. The problem for me with the Jazz is
here's their last five game outputs offensively ninety six, one
oh three, one oh five, one oh three, ninety seven.
What I used to depend on with Utah, especially at
home today or tonight, was the fact that they could
score enough to keep me within striking distance. Anthony Edwards
wasn't really pushed to the limit last night because the
game was a blowout played less than thirty minutes. I
don't know if you know, Minnesota's looking to just keep
rolling here there on back to back blowouts. You talked
about the Jazz game last night. They won by twenty seven,
really easy against Sacramento. So the situation, much like the
Wizards right ski, The situation screams to the Utah side.
But to play on the floor doesn't indicate Utah at
all because I don't trust them scoring right now. If
I knew they were that team that averages one nineteen,
one twenty at home like they were to start the
season throughout last season, I could get there with them.
But they just are not. They're not shooting well. It
doesn't even look like they have any true option other
than marketing on the floor right now. So they've played
four unders in their last five games. Team total has
been under five straight. I don't know. In Minnesota could
almost win this game by mistake, or by eight points
by mistake. So I have to lay off because you know,
my situational angles all tell me a bit Utah. But
then when I look at the game from a fundamental standpoint,
I just can't do it.
Speaker 2: You talked about lack of scoring, right, I mean, I
think a lot of that just they're on a bad
long road trip. At home, they were scoring one hundred
and thirty three points per game at the house so
far this season. Now they come back home t Wolves
on his back to back going into elevation. I don't know, Rovino.
I could see that defense lacking on the will side,
knowing they just beat this team by forty I can
see the Jazz scoring the night.
Speaker 1: I will be on the Utah Jazz. I like the
Utah Jazz.
Speaker 3: And that game where they went by forty two real quick.
Ski did go over this total. I believe even though
Utah didn't contribute, it still got over one last thing
before we close this one out. I will just jump
on what you said. Walker Kessler is a big miss
for this team. His rebounding, his ability to get out
and run. So we'll see the first two games of
that long road trip where Phoenix and Charlotte not known
as defensive stalwarts, and they only got ninety six and
one oh three. I'm just a little mind. I guess
you're a little more bullish on the Utah offense than me. Tonight.
Speaker 2: But we'll see a couple of people in the chat.
Steve asking if I'll be rocking with Jay this year,
jam Van don Dan asking if I'll be doing anything
with Sauce. I mean, I don't even think Sauce has
been doing the regular NBA thing, but I'm sure at
some point, you know, we'll link, we'll talk about some stuff.
Speaker 1: Sauce likes baseball.
Speaker 2: Sauce likes football right now, and he's in the college
sports right now. He's not really thinking about the NBA
too much. It's on the back burner. So when maybe
football is winding down, he'll probably want to talk some
more basketball, and for j let me feel a little
bit better, and then maybe I'll start doing a little
bit more shows. All right, next game, last game, you
know in the NBA, Hawks and Clippers opened up.
Speaker 1: Clippers minus four and a half. I see between four
and a half and five and a half.
Speaker 2: We'll call it five up in two twenty four and
a half down as low ass to twenty and a.
Speaker 1: Half for the Hawks. Looks like ni Kid.
Speaker 2: I mean, it just has his name here. It doesn't
say anything next to it. It says na kill Alexander Walker.
So I'm assuming he's questionable for this game. Yeah, now
put the questionable there. He's questionable. Jalon Johnson also questionable.
We know Trey Young still, we know that for the Clippers,
Bradley Bill questionable, Miller questionable, and Kawhi out. They look
really bad without Kawhi in general. And I mean, you
know how I feel these the old guys with the tennis.
Speaker 1: Balls and the Walkers.
Speaker 2: I just don't really like this Clippers team. At some
point they are going to start winning games, but it's
just one of those teams I don't trust. It's a
third game in for an ice for the Hawks. They
are coming off of winn as a dog they could
let down. I mean, it is a bounce back spot
for the Clippers. They haven't covered it, and who knows
when they haven't covered in five games at least. This
is This is tough for me, Rob, you know, it's
hard for me to lay with the Clippers the way
that they've looked lately.
Speaker 1: How do you see this one?
Speaker 3: They're one in eight against the spread, and how could
they take anybody's money right now? They're just not good.
I mean we laughed about it in the beginning, Ski right,
it was kind of half truth but half joke, the
Walkers and the tennis balls. But they're playing like the
Walkers and the tennis balls. I mean, every team that
comes at them with pace has their way. You lose
back to backs against Phoenix and you only score one
oh two and one oh three in those games. That's problematic.
They lost at home by thirteen, they lost on the
road by eleven. You're probably right. At some point they
likely will start winning games. There's enough talent there to
do so. But until we see it, it's really hard
to play them. Now. The other side of that coin
is Atlanta off a Friday night game, fly to the
West Coast. Play this as an opener, but Atlanta might
have a little bit of juice to them right now.
They've won two out of three without Trey, and they've
won those two of those. Are those two games in
pretty convincing fashion, scoring over one twenty, winning by double digits.
You know, my notes here on this game said see
the result and then counter punching the Sacramento game. Atlanta
plays Sacramento on the second game of this road trip
a couple of days from now, so kind of see
what happens here. And then maybe make a play on
the Sacramento game. But I want no part of the
Clippers at this point in time.
Speaker 2: All Right, we agree on that. All Right, we're gonna
talk a little bit of Monday Night football Ravino, but
before we do some stuff in the chat that I
want to address. A couple guys, say tray Von Jackson says,
I can't trust Tylou and his gambling habits. The poker game,
Mal says, tylerust oss bookie some bread. It's a Tyler's
gonna be played Brook Lopez for thirty minutes. He'll sit
the start of five after halftime. Hey man, you know,
so I don't remember what it was, but I went
on wager Talk today and I haven't been on there
in a long time, so it was obviously a while
ago and pres was the host, and somehow, some way,
I think it was a question from the chat but
what it started being asking about, like it's sports rigged
or sports manipulated or whatever the case may be. And
my answer was not every game, but absolutely some games are.
And they did not like to hear that on that show.
I understand, you know, you might not want to hear it.
But here we are Robino. We're seeing it everywhere NBA players,
MLB players. I'm sure they're doing it at football too.
So sometimes you got to find that fix man. When
you hear me say I've seen this before, sometimes that
might be one of those moments.
Speaker 3: It's it's funny you say that, because yesterday on the
NFL in game show end Zone Live, that Wager Talkers
had this show I'm on Teddy was hosting rather than
pres yesterday and somebody came in the comments section because
the fourth quarter games start to go wild in the NFL,
and somebody came in the chat and said, these games scripted,
and Teddy went bonkers. You know, Teddy can get a
little animated. Right at his point was if they're scripted,
what are you doing talking to us right now? You
should know the script and you should be rich. Maybe
you should tell me what the script is so I
can get in on it too. And I just I
think it's much more. There were a couple points in
that show where topics were brought up where the NBA
seems to be the place where it happens more like
like I was saying, just that, you know, in the NBA,
when we do shows together. We talk about not games
being fixed, but hey, let's be aware of where Scott
Foster is.
Speaker 1: Let's be aware of certainly you know what I mean
it is, and you know.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. So I don't know, you know, the
baseball players. Somebody was saying, I don't know how you
get four hundred and fifty k down on a first
pitch prop and they were parlaying that thing and whatnot.
But to the credit, I'll just make this last side point,
Emanuel Clause. One of the guys, are the guy really
in that given away ball one as a closer walk
out in the mound, close the game out, giveaway ball
one and still be one of the three best closures
in the league. That dude wasn't fixing outcomes. He was
just making You're like, hey, I'll spot you bag one
and I'm still good to get you outs. It doesn't matter.
Kind of crazy, but yeah, to your point, we do
look at stuff in the NBA. I think a little
harder where that's concerned than we do the NFL.
Speaker 2: One thousand percent tomorrow now says I'm gonna join a
teddy streamer, say these games are scripted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or you'll get some pushback. There's no question.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't even laugh. I'm dying here.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you one more thing before we move
on to some more actionable stuff. We're seeing it a
lot right now, these player props, especially the popular ones.
You'll see them taking away the stats. Like you'll see
a guy go get it assists. Next thing you look
at it is back down to two assists he just
had three, or they crediting the rebound, or somebody else
not giving somebody else a rebound. It's been happening all
season long, and now guys are fed up. Guys are
on Twitter at in the NBA calling them out, and
the NBA is having to respond because everybody's talking about it,
they're having to change the stats. So pay attention, man,
that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: All right, NFL, what do we have here?
Speaker 2: I don't think I I didn't put the banner up,
So oh, there we go, Eagles Packers.
Speaker 1: This one opened at three.
Speaker 2: For the Packers, came down to I mean, it's a
pick them at a couple of shops now minus one
without really any Jews, So yeah, it really it's a
pick them now. Total open forty four and a half.
We'll call consensus forty five. Right now, I'm touring a
little bit, you know, my initial thought on this game,
Like I'm when I'm looking at week ten on Wednesday
or whatever to whatever, I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: The pack.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking the Eagles off of a bye, right, I'm
thinking that I might want to back the Eagles off
of a bye, but I don't trust the Eagles defense
as much as I trust the Packers defense. And then,
you know, I started to think about Tucker Kraft getting
hurt and what that could mean for the Packers' offense
because he's a big part of their offense. It's man,
I've been going back and forth. I think the Packers
pass defense is solid, but Eagles have Saquan.
Speaker 1: This is this is a really really tough game for me.
I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm an pass it to you. You're the Philadelphia area guy.
What are you thinking about Eagles and Packers right now?
Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you one thing that has nothing to
do with the people that are going to be on
the field as far as matchups are concerned. Philly's bitter,
and I mean really bitter about Green Bay being the
one team that voted against the tush push, and so
in this area it's a big deal. And Matt Lafleur,
the coach at Green Bay, had a press conference during
the week at some point whatever the coach's day for
press conferences is, and a Philly Beat writer and flat
out asked him about it, and he didn't want to answer.
He didn't want to take responsibility for his management voting
against Philadelphia ever being able to run that play. And
you know, jokingly around this area Philly sports media, we
should run it twenty five times, right up green Bay's ass,
so to speak. You know, they won't run it twenty
five times, but you get the point. They're a little
bit bitter that green Bay tried to get rid of
this play. I don't know how that affects anything here.
I think Philly is going to be totally motivated. As
you mentioned, Nick Sirianni is a perfect four and oh
off a bye week with this team. And to the
point about defense, I give Howie Roseman the GM a
ton of credit. Trade deadline came, what did he do?
He went out and got Jalen Philip from Miami, their
best pass rusher, to put alongside the pass rusher on
the other side for Green Bay. For Philly, the Georgia
kid Nolan Smith, and he went out and got Jaii
Alexander to play corner because their corners were getting exposed.
And I don't know how much of the Green Bay
playbook Jaier Alexander remembers or still knows, but it was
the same coaching staff when he played over there, so
maybe there's a little something there. Those are all exterior factors.
I think Philadelphia is the right side here. I agree
with the money. I just think they're the better team
at this point in time. As you said earlier, Saquan's
gotten going because the offensive line got a little bit
healthier and they started opening up holes for him. Again,
I think during the bye week, you get two weeks
to prepare for a team, it's pretty good chance you're
going to be ready for them. The venue might be
a little bit scary Monday night in Green Bay, but
Philly seems venue proof to me. So I looked towards
the Eagles to win this game. I took a money
line because it was a better price and taking one
and a half points, and I figured they'll win the
game out right, at least in my mind. So That's
where I'm Matt. I think Philadelphia right at this point
in time is trying to make every move possible. Oh
one last thing, skey. They're very familiar with blocking Micah Parsons.
They had to do it twice a year when he
was on Dallas every single year. So Micah Parsons is
not the scary thing that other teams view him to be.
To Philadelphia, they have ways to keep him off. Jalen
hurts his back, So I like the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Here, all right, Vino liking the Eagles did have somebody
mentioned that hurts his thrown interception every.
Speaker 1: Monday night football game.
Speaker 2: I think it was back to twenty twenty that they said,
So some good information there. Yeah, I need a little
bit more time with this Eagles in Green Bay game,
so it might be one that I tweet out. Definitely
if I play, it'll be closer to kickoff. So, Vino,
I think we did a pretty solid job trying to
wrap it up before we do the best. I don't
even know that do we still.
Speaker 3: Have a I was just gonna say, I don't, I
don't know.
Speaker 1: What we don't even know. I don't even know we're
gonna do it the o G way. We'll put this
up here.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you if there's anything you want to
promote personally and if you have a best bet for
the show, we love to hear it.
Speaker 1: And if you don't, it's okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're promotional stuff is concerned. I'll just say really quick,
anybody who's interested in selection packages on my on my
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time on wager Talk TV. Now let's get to what
we're talking about tonight, and I think my favorite play
of all tonight's ski was probably san Antonio. I got
it at a better price than what's being offered now.
So I'll come off of that here for best bet
purposes and I'll ride with the Lakers minus eight and
a half. I think the Lakers JJ Reddick. Again, I'm
handicapping the coach. I could be wrong, but I don't
think JJ Reddick is one of those guys who is
full of bs so to speak. I mean, when he
reacts the way he reacted Friday, it's kind of out
a character. He was upset. I think the team will respond.
Charlotte's in dire straits here as far as personnel and
defensive ability. So best BET's gonna be the Lakers minus
eight and a half tonight.
Speaker 2: Good stuff for me promo wise, all I'm gonna say is,
you know I've hit ten in my last fifteen in
the NBA, ten and three on the NFL props this season,
and I'm gonna be getting involved today. Even if you
don't see something on my page, I will have action.
So it'll be one of those where you should get
a day pass or a week pass or a three
day or if you want to be involved, that's the
way to do it with me right now, my best
bet for the show, I'm gonna go back to the Cavaliers,
and you know I'm seeing seven and a half minus
well fifteen, but I can get a six and a
half minus one twenty. I'll just take the I'll pay
an extra five cents for the six.
Speaker 1: And a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Cavs.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: They dominated Miami all last year. Like I said that
only one game they didn't cover this margin. They protect
the paint with the trees down there, no bam out
of bio. They're gonna struggle to rebound even more than
they already have been lately. It's a lot of different
things that line up for me here Calves Mius to
six and a half. Honestly, think they win by ten plus.
That would be my best bet for the show. You know,
I've always enjoy breaking down the games with you. Appreciate
you taking their time to capping with me. Everybody in
the chat, Thank you guys for putting in. If you
get the like button, it helps out the show. And yeah,
just appreciate you guys. Like I always say, y'all are
good cappers out there, good people out there, and we're
all doing the same thing. We're all just trying to
help each other win. So best of luck everybody today
on all your action. We'll be back again tomorrow