Speaker 1: Hey, here's your favorite postal carrier, Lane Wolf from Westfield
and your pop quiz. What would you rather do? Drive
in a ferrari with your best friend and your girlfriend,
going to a Cubs game, catching a foul ball while
avoiding your principal while is that a pizza joint? Or
fighting those babies and blues with a bunch of kids
while being chased by the motor City madmen. Hey, there's
only one thing left to do in a time like this.
Why don't you ask yourself what Lane Wolf would do?
Who Lane Wolf? I would listen to James D. Graves
and Jason Colvin on the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcast?
Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome back to the Surely you Can't
Be Serious Podcast. We're here with part two of Ferris
Bueller's Day Off versus Adventures in Babysitting Chuck Dave, Why
are you guys still here?
Speaker 3: Nobody gets out of here without plane the blues?
Speaker 2: All right? We had to pick between two adventures and
babysitting lines that everybody knows, and so we took the
one without the F bomb in it. We are back.
If you missed part one, we talked about the origins
of Ferris Bueller's Day Off and Adventures in Babysitting. We
talked about quite a bit of trivia and some other
fun stuff, and we talked about casting for Ferris Bueller's
Day Off. We're back here part two. We're going to
start off by talking about casting for Adventures in Babysitting. Jason, Wait,
wait all take a moment for Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: Shoe man Alive.
Speaker 2: What a sweet casting choice that was.
Speaker 3: I think every guy about our age had a crush
on Leah Thompson and Elizabeth Shoe.
Speaker 2: Sure, Am I wrong?
Speaker 4: I throw Catherine Mary Stewart in there as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or Jennifer Conley. There's a lot of them back,
there's a lot, but definitely yeah, Elizabeth Shoe. You've got
You've got Back to the Future Leah Thompson, yep. And
you've got Karate Kid Elizabeth Shoe. Yeah. Those were monumental
moments in my childhood.
Speaker 3: And then in nineteen eighty eight you have you have
Elizabeth Shoe.
Speaker 2: And Cocktail Back to the Future too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: She she replaces Claudia Wells.
Speaker 2: Yeah in Back the Future two and three, and in
both movies she wakes up from being passed out and says,
I just had the worst nightmare hopefully.
Speaker 3: Them how about that? You know what, there is another
Back to the Future alum in this cast as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, in Adventures of Babysitter. Yeah tell me, well I will, Okay.
Speaker 3: We'll get to it, all right, So Elizabeth Shoe plays
Chris Parker. Don't with the Lord's Head, Don't with the Babysitter.
The list of who they wanted to play Chris Parker
in this movie is astounding. It's everybody. Basically, we talked
last week how they really had their mindset on Molly Ringwold.
Mally Ringwold said no, So they shifted.
Speaker 2: To Bette Midler and Share What what the what?
Speaker 5: That makes no sense?
Speaker 2: I can say I could see in nineteen eighty six
any kid having the hots for share Bette Midler.
Speaker 3: Bette Midler, Bette Midler what she was hot at the moment?
Speaker 2: No, she was not.
Speaker 3: So let me give you the list of other people
they considered to play Chris Parker.
Speaker 4: We're talking ruthless people. Bet Miler, right, ruthless people.
Speaker 3: Bette Midler, who was a bit chunky, Yeah, very annoying.
Speaker 2: And yes, Bette Midler has never been attractive a day
in her.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Okay, so let me give you the list
of possible Chris Parker's all.
Speaker 2: Right, wait, wait, before you do this, each person that
you're gonna name, I'm gonna have to think could they
pull off miss March. I mean it's an important part, right,
It is a huge part of the movie.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okayne Middler, definitely not.
Speaker 3: True, all right? Nineteen eighty seven version, Julia Louise Dreyfus, Sure,
she was kind of a babe back then.
Speaker 2: There's a babe in Seinfeld on the.
Speaker 5: Nineties, she was a babe.
Speaker 3: Okay, brook Shields, Yes, Michelle Pfeiffer, I think they're kind
of reaching for the stars right there. I don't know
that you're gonna get land Michelle Pfeiffer.
Speaker 2: For this one. Well, I'm going to head you off
at the pass here. But at the time, an unknown
Sharon Stone, Sharon Stone on the list, Okay, Kelly McGillis, Yeah,
she wanted it. She wanted it.
Speaker 3: They didn't want to, They were not interested.
Speaker 2: Surprised.
Speaker 3: How about Valerie Burtonilly yep, yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, such a crush on her from one day at
a time. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me give you one I don't think works.
Kathleen Turner babysitter.
Speaker 2: Well, she is romancing the Stone Smidge old, but she
was still very attracted.
Speaker 3: I mean she's very attractive.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying no, she's attractive, like shear is attractive.
I mean, they're they're, they're, they're they're fine. It's just
they're It just seems like the demographic is a little older,
is all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, now that I'm thinking about it, you
have that entire scene with the frat party where he's like,
you're the prettiest girl at the University of Chicago and
you're in high school. That that all falls apart right there. Yeah,
you dropped in Kathleen Turner. There she goes from being
jail bait to be in cougar. She could be hit.
Speaker 6: When they were like at least know with like Sharon
Att Middler, when they were thinking about that they were
going to rewrite the movie to make it maybe be
an older person. So when they were thinking maybe some
of these older people, they also had in their mind
that the movie would go a different direction.
Speaker 3: Sure, I get it, all right. Melanie Griffith is another
name I have here. And then finally one that I
think fits but doesn't quite fit the Playboy aspect of it,
is Tulsa's own Heather lang Camp Oh from Night nyn
Elm Street.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you might be able to dress her.
Speaker 3: Up Nancy from nightmn Elm Street.
Speaker 2: It might be. Okay, she's not, she's not better look
at it, and she's she kind of hides her figure
a little bit in that movie. I think she's better look.
Speaker 3: All right, Heather balled in your court, let's do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Elizabeth Shu in this movie actually did like a
photo shoot at the Playboy mansion.
Speaker 2: It flew her out there well yes not nudes, yes,
no nudes, but yes, and she when she talked about it,
she was like, I think it might have been a
Hugh he Haffner thing. That was like, if you're going to
use the name Playboy, you have to kind of have
to shoot it out here.
Speaker 3: That prop magazine only one was made or one still exists,
and she has it.
Speaker 4: Yep, does it have the writing of the plans that
they were after. That makes no sense, man, that makes
no sense. I mean that happens to me every time
I'm in a meeting I'm looking for something to write
on and the only thing that's there is my Gentleman's
quarterly or whatever.
Speaker 6: And I'm having your mechanics.
Speaker 3: He wrote it on the centerfold too, I mean, can
you not do it on the joke page on the
next one or two?
Speaker 2: Over runned it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't want to ruin the articles.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why he reads it.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I know we've said it before, but
Elizabeth Shoe, she does a great job. She's believable as
the kind of the frumpy version of the high school
student who can still manage to be the centerfold in
the Playboy magazine. Right, she's wearing those ridiculous gloves throughout
the entire movie.
Speaker 2: But you know, she is a smoke show if she
wanted to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, our question, have you guys ever told the Elizabeth
Shoe cocktail story with Tom Cruise?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is actually one of the stories that
I could have sworn you guys have told before. But
when they were shooting Cocktail, right, there was a scene
I think maybe they were out riding horses or something,
But anyways, a lot of helicopters that was shooting the
actual scene and they would come down in between takes,
they would look at they'd go over what the video
playback of what was just shot, and the director would
give them more directions for what to do on the
next take. On it something about a helicopter. They're going
to leave the helicopter basically running with the backblades going.
When the rear rotor is spinning, it's invisible. Elizabeth Shoe
turns around and starts walking towards the back of the helicopter.
She's almost close to get her whole face just taken
right off. Cruise, you know, being a pilot himself, just
jumped right after her tackled her. She's ticked off at
him for just attacking her before he shows her that
she was just about to walk into the blades of
the helicopter in the on the rotor. So Tom Cruise
saved Elizabeth's shoes life in Cocktail, I thought y'all had
told that story.
Speaker 2: Wow, but that's a great one. That sounds like something
we would tell, But I don't. I haven't told that story.
That's a great one, you know.
Speaker 3: That brings me to another Elizabeth Shoe story, Chuck. I mean,
it's a great one. But she had an older brother
named William. She actually named her I think her firstborn
son after her older brother.
Speaker 2: Cameo in this movie.
Speaker 3: Andrew Shoe gets a cameo in this movie. Oh okay,
Andrew She who is popular on was it Melrose Place?
So he's an actor, very famous. But they had an
older brother, oh okay, who was killed in like the
summer that cocktail came out. I think it may have
been like August or September. They were on a family
vacation and just think about a million of these moments
when you've been on a family vacation. He was on
a tire rope swing. He was twenty six, so I
mean old enough, and he swung out and when he
swung out, the branch broke and he fell on another
branch and impaled himself and was killed. Oh, just an
absolute freak accident and died. And so she named her
oldest son after him.
Speaker 2: What a tragedy. Yep.
Speaker 3: Anything else on Elizabeth Shoe other than the fact she
was the Burger King girl along with Leah Thompson.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: Okay, Let's move on to Keith Coogan. He plays Brad.
Speaker 2: Could you drop us off to the nearest mall a ball.
Speaker 5: What do y'all think? We got boise Adaho shit.
Speaker 2: So, Keith Coogan is the grandson of Jackie Cougan. And
if you were a film buff, you know that he
was the kid in Charlie Chaplin's The Kid, a tiny
little kid in a silent movie. And then when he
grew up and became an older man, he was Uncle
Fester on the original Adams Family series. That is Keith
Cougan's grandfather. Keith Coogan went by Keith Mitchell until just
after his Jackie Cougan's funeral, And when you know the
news of Jackie Cougan passing and Keith Mitchell giving the
eulogy was everybody's confused about it. Then he changed his name,
his acting name, to Keith Coogan. He's also going to
be in another movie and a couple of years after this,
called The Babysitters Don't Tell Mom the Babysitters Dead. Two
big movies for this guy, and both of them involve babysitters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's one line from Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's
Dead that I remember.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: No dishes are done, man, that's Keith Coogan.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: This a done man, Queen da By the way, I
believe the movie is called Toy Soldiers came out a
couple of years after this. Seawan Aston was in it
with him and so so. Seawan Aston and Keith Cougan
were teenagers at this school that's taken over by terrorist.
It's kind of a red Dawn at a private school thing.
Shawn Asten's dad played Gomez Adams and Keith Coogan's granddad
played Uncle Fester.
Speaker 2: His alleged dad. But if you listen to episode you
will find out that that's not who his real dad was.
That's right. Maybe at the time Pattie Duke getting at home.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about Penelope and Miller. This is her debut. Hello,
Oh yeah, sure, Chris Christ's Brenda, Chris Chris, I'm in trouble, Hendy,
You're always in trouble.
Speaker 5: No, I'm really in trouble.
Speaker 1: I didn't you spiked r Tad with Dreno.
Speaker 7: No, I ran away from home.
Speaker 3: Here's what I have on Penelope Ann Miller. She was
married to Will Arnette. Okay, right, yeah, you guys know
who Will Arnett is. H absolutely famous funny guy.
Speaker 2: He's. If you don't know who he is, he's He's
very frequently in funny movies. He's also the voice of
Batman in the Lego Batman movie. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Great actor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, a ton of stuff arrested development, right, that's right.
Speaker 3: Okay, listen to this. They were They got married December
ninth of nineteen ninety four, and they divorced on January
the eighteenth, nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: It's a quick turn around, basically.
Speaker 3: That's uh. That was my college break that year. They
were married for about three weeks or four weeks or whatever.
Speaker 2: That time period is next to nothing.
Speaker 5: I took longer to plan the wedding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what happened. I really wanted to
find out, couldn't find out anything. But at last they
did not make it. She actually played the love interest
for Arnold Schwarzenegger in Kindergarten Cop. Yes, remember that she's
a dominic's mother, so Kindergarten Cop.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard of this movie before. No, I'm just
I can't put together that that's the same person.
Speaker 3: The goofy glasses Brenda who thinks that there's a cat
and it's a rat.
Speaker 2: She ended up getting kind of hot.
Speaker 3: She did get kind of hot.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well they dressed her down in this movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, a lot.
Speaker 3: Okay, Chuck, I'm gonna pass this one to you. But
Anthony Rapp is the guy who plays Darryl, their buddy.
Speaker 4: I think Anthony rap in this movie basically plays Corey
Feldman's character from the Goonies. He's the mouth you know
in this film. And he's also another one of our
Star Trek references here. He plays in The Star Trek
Discovery as Paul Stammets, who is the engineer who's able
to power the drive of the starship Discovery in that show.
He also played in the play Rent, and he rejoined
up with Chris Columbus later in the film version, where
he reprised the role that he played on Broadway.
Speaker 2: He was also in the movie Dazed and Confused. He
played the other of the two goofy characters that you
will remember as the guy who describes his dream of
having sex with the perfect female body, and then looking
up and she has the head of Abraham Lincoln, which
I think was a nod to this will be a
future homosexual person. He did up, of course, being that
in real life and Also, as it turns out, in
those escapades acting as a young man, he was apparently
involved with Kevin Spacey and something because interesting, as we
all know, Kevin Spacey got canceled basically for some sexual
actions that he had allegedly taken place many years earlier
with a young actor. Well, that young actor was Anthony Rap.
Speaker 5: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: There you go, on that note, on that super fun note,
I will say that Anthony Rap in this movie has
maybe the second or third funniest.
Speaker 2: Line in the whole movie.
Speaker 3: And that is and that is I think they're trying
to They're trying to get away from the bad guys.
And I think Chris says, we're gonna walk across this
We're gonna crawl up the shoot, We're gonna walk across
this girder and crawl out a window.
Speaker 2: And he says, you gotta.
Speaker 6: Be watch your mouth, watch my mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, guys, if you're gonna watch this right now,
you're probably gonna see it streaming on Disney, and what
you're gonna hear instead of that.
Speaker 5: The other day?
Speaker 2: Watch your mouth? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That makes sense, right? I thought you were gonna say
The funny line was you will be murdered, dead, stabbed,
and he goes raped.
Speaker 4: I just always remember wrapping this movie in his entrance
where his mouth is against the window and he makes
it a big banana mouth. It was hilarious.
Speaker 2: He was blonde, naturally, they dyed his hair red because
they were worried that he was going to look too
much like Anthony Michael Hall. How about that. I can
see that. Actually, yep. I don't know why you wouldn't
want to look like Anthony Michael Hall, given the success
of all of the movies and the fact that they're
trying to recreate a version of Varios Bueller's Day Off.
But whatever, you know, we probably need to review that.
Speaker 3: Just briefly, David Simpkins read the script for Veris Bueller's
Day Off and set out to.
Speaker 2: Make a movie like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and gave us adventures Baby City.
Speaker 4: I would also probably go one step further. I don't
know how much of what Simpkins's original script is actually
in the movie, because I think Chris Columbus, I know,
he brought his original idea of bringing in you know,
no one gets out of here without singing the blues
in that whole scene. I'm gonna be very honest, I
find this movie to be more like the Goonies than
I do Ferris Bueller's Day Off, just in the story structure,
and we can talk about that when we get out
of it. But I think Chris Columbus's foot fingerprints are
over more of this script than what we normally think
of with it. But that's a little something I can
get into later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you got a group of kids who
are trying to escape some criminals who are out to
kill them, which is not a very common theme but
definitely involved in both of those movies. Yeah, for sure.
I guess see.
Speaker 5: That with some babysitting.
Speaker 6: In the comparison with Farispueler, a lot of it is
the luck, the fact that things just kind of work out.
Speaker 5: That's a commonality. And in Chicago, yeah, from a storyline.
Speaker 4: And they they but they and they filmed it all
in Toronto, right, So it was it was, it was
not even filmed in Chicago. And I would even go further.
You could you could say that the character of Joe Gibb,
even the truck driver, handsome John Pruitt, and uh uh oh,
there was one more guy there, Oh Dawson, Right, all
of these guys are kind of a prototype Sloth, right,
where Sloth these are. These are bad guys who are
actually good guys that help them along the criminals. They
seem to be very competent, but by the end they're
not competent. Wait a minute, I'm starting to I'm starting
to describe a movie called Home Alone two where you
have the Wet bandits, right, So, so there's a lot
of connective tissue from just from Chris Columbus between these
two where I just think that David Simpkins script, you know,
I think it morphed during shooting because it feels too
much like Chris Columbus.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: That is interesting because when I watched it, Chuck and
and now I'm seeing what you're saying, and we're starting
to break down the movie now. But to me, the
opening scene of Adventures of Babysitting where she is lip
syncing and then he kissed me, which is a great
needle drop, but it's essentially the twist and shout scene
from Ferris Bueler. They just moved it to the beginning
of the movie, so you get the parade scene and
right off the bat essentially, and then the very last
ten minutes of Adventures in Babysitting are exactly like Ferris
Bueler's Day.
Speaker 6: Off, even which he throws herself into the couch that
parents come right around the corner.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, it's absolutely the same. The only thing she
doesn't do is throw baseball at the stereo to turn off.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Bradley Whitford plays Mike, the boyfriend Bradley Whitford who would
go on to be in Billy Madison and the West
Wing and do one hundred other things. To me, it's crazy.
You know he studied at Juilliard and then ends up
in Billy Madison.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, West Wing. I just watched a movie
called Cabin in the Woods. Have you guys seen that? Yeah?
I had never seen it before. He's got a very
interesting part in there. It's a weird kind of horror movie.
And for those folks out there who don't watch many
modern movies, which maybe a lot of you, considering you're
listening to our podcast right now, it's a good movie.
It's got Chris Simsworth in it, and it does kind
of a weird play on the horror movie, kind of
like a scream esque, where like, hey, here's what happens
in the horror movies and you follow along with it.
So I'm gonna recommend that movie. Just watch it for
the first time, enjoyed it watching with Kevin Davis. Actually,
oh cool, Yeah, it's up, Kim.
Speaker 3: Okay, anything else when you say, I'm Bradley Whitford other
than he drove his own car and the so cool
vanity plate was his. Yeah, and the fact that he
looked forty dating a seventeen year.
Speaker 2: Old, well, nope, but then they went ahead and dated
her anyway, they did.
Speaker 3: They did dating.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't have in my notes who
the girl that he ended up at the French restaurant
was with.
Speaker 2: But she was a sleeze.
Speaker 3: She was a sleeze and comparatively to Elizabeth Shoe, not
even in the same.
Speaker 2: But what are you happen to do? How were you
going to find somebody?
Speaker 3: Well, and we know she puts out, so it's a
balancing right.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Vincent Dinofrio as Thor with the ridiculously
long blonde wig. We talked about it last episode, Chuck,
but he was muscled up right before he put on
seventy pounds.
Speaker 4: To be in full mental jacket technically, not the first
appearance of Thor on screen. That would come the following
year on the TV show, The Return of the Incredible Hulk.
I don't know if you remember that one with luf Riigno,
Bill Bixby.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: So they had a series where they had introduced Thor
in eighty eight, so this is like nearly this is
probably a good eight years after the show had actually
ended on there. But I know a lot of folks
who say that Dinafrio's Thor is more of the real
Thour than the one on the TV show. So I
think there's no doubt about it that if if the
little Girl believes that he's Store, then he'store.
Speaker 5: A chuck, I got a chuck.
Speaker 6: I got a trivia question for you, though, Who originally
was supposed to be the superhero instead of Thor?
Speaker 5: What was originally in the script?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: I'm going to go for a guess because for some reason,
I'm thinking either Daredevil or Captain America.
Speaker 5: Okay, Jason spider Man, d No Club he Man?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 3: Oh that works.
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 6: And because think about the mid eighties, he Man is
huge in fact, there was even a movie. It probably
worked out best, did it the way I did, because
that became afterwards and it wasn't great and all that.
Speaker 5: But like he man, it was huge at the time.
Speaker 6: Nowadays Thor is huge, but in the mid eighties it
really really wasn't except for you know, people that are
really into comic books. And so Chris changed it for
a very specific reason, just because he liked Threre better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris Columbus was a very he loved comic books
and he had he had comic books all the time.
In fact, he changed you know, the character to Thor
in very much the same way that another character in
an earlier film opened up his shirt, but it was
a DC character with a Superman sloth from the Goonies.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 4: That was Donner who directed itself. But still I heard.
Speaker 3: That they were going to put some members of the
Chicago Bears, maybe like she was going to be a
Big Bears fan, which man at that time to have
Walter Payton or a BigMan or Mike Singletary or the
fridge like William the Refrigerator Perry.
Speaker 2: They were. Anthony Rapp's character was going to steal their jockstraps,
and they're going to sell the jockstraps to make the
money to pay for the car. That was the that
was the plot.
Speaker 3: Line, and they they decided against it because you never
know who was going to get in trouble for cocaine
or for you know, getting in trouble with whatever whatever.
But looking back, if you had had had Mike Singletary
or Jim McMahon or Willie Galt or Walter Payton or
any of those guys, that really would have been a
cool Chicago stamp on this movie.
Speaker 2: Very iconic. Yep.
Speaker 3: Okay, by the way, Chuck, you mentioned the little girl.
Her name is Maya Brutin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember her as another little girl in another
movie where she played I think her name was Sally.
Speaker 3: Baines, Elly Baines.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: That was the younger sister of Lorraine Baines. Who wait, man,
we're talking back to the future again. This is your
second back to the future rat. Okay, Okay, there we go.
Speaker 6: I will see your situation and raise you a situation.
What TV show was she in after this movie? That
is kind of a kind of a comparison to.
Speaker 2: Paris Parker Lewis Cantle.
Speaker 5: It is she's the younger sister.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 4: Not the Ferris Bueller TV show, right, not not the
Ferris Bueller TV show. But yeah, Parker Lewis Okay.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 3: Yes, was Jennifer Anston in that.
Speaker 2: Now she was in the Ferris Bueller one. She played
Jennifer Gray's part. That was Friends. Jennifer Grace character marries
the guy the dentist that Jennifer Andison's character is supposed
to be marrying. That she walks out in the pilot episode.
She comes in the wedding dress. It's all these connections. Wow,
here can I.
Speaker 4: Can I just shout out that the children of the
eighties gang. Yeah, Jim and lindsay, please please go back
and do your Friends episodes again, because I was I
was rewatching Friends because of your podcast and and I
ended up stopping because because it didn't come back and
I missed that.
Speaker 2: So please.
Speaker 3: Jim said something about work or when or whatever some
dumb craft like that life.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I do want to bring up mister Albert Collins, who
is actually a blues musician, who is the guy who's
like nobody get out of here about playing blues.
Speaker 5: If you don't mind.
Speaker 3: We just like to let ourselves out.
Speaker 5: Nobody is just played for that sing in the blue?
Speaker 2: What nobody leave his place for that sang in the blue?
Speaker 3: Actually famous blues musician.
Speaker 6: And the hard part about him actually being on camera
is that that whole thing was pre recorded. And yeah,
and so they they went into a studio and they
pre recorded all the vocals, the band, everything, and then
they had to shoot it. And he's up there and
you know, you know him especially, but musicians in general,
they don't do the same thing twice. How they sing
their little ad libs or little licks on the guitar,
And so him being able to lipseyn was like so hard.
Speaker 5: He like really had.
Speaker 3: It's so hard it is, and it's so hard.
Speaker 2: Tar had a blowout and my mom's car got shut.
Speaker 3: Up, started to Jesus and we all got hijacked. We're
cruising down the highway this big off Canillac and it's
so hard.
Speaker 5: It's so hot.
Speaker 4: Bag sitting these guys.
Speaker 3: Hey, you mentioned the Babysitter Blues. Okay, I want to
talk about it real quick. You and I talked about
this already in a former episode. The writer of The
Babysitter Blues. His name is Mark Mueller. He also wrote
the song Crushed by Jennifer Page Yes, which was a
huge hit in the late nineties.
Speaker 5: It's from her album Greatest Hit.
Speaker 3: He also wrote That's what Love Is For by Amy Grantow,
and he wrote Nothing at All by Heart, featured on
the self titled Heart album that we covered and go
back and listen to us go track. I tracked through
that one, all right. Two more people I want to
bring up really quickly. From the cast of Adventures and Babysitting,
you have George Newbern, who goes on to play Steve
Martin's future son in law in the movie Father of
the Bride. That's what I recognize him the most. From
Brian McKenzie McKinsey, I met a man and I'm getting married.
Speaker 2: Are you telling me I could have a grandchild named
Sophie Zenkman. I love that movie. That's such a good movie. Yes, okay.
Speaker 3: And then Lolita Davidovich plays Sue Anne or the Blonde.
She is the girl at the frat party that Darryl
gets kind of hooked up with.
Speaker 2: I wondered, Okay, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Probably recognized she was in the movie. She married Ron Shelton,
who wrote the screenplay for Bull, Durham and Cobb and
White Man Can't Jump.
Speaker 2: She was a Babe in a Half.
Speaker 4: Ron Canada played Graydon, Yes, one of the rough guys there,
and you see him all the time now on television.
He's usually either a judge or a detective. But I
also know him of course from not only Star Trek
the Next Generation, but also Star Trek Deep Space nine
and finally in Star Trek Voyager, so we have more
Star Trek connectivity tissues. I'm sorry, I can't help myself.
Speaker 3: That's okay, all right, let's go through some tidbits and
then we'll make our way to final judgment. So it's
gonna sound good. All right, let's do some tidbits from
Adventures in Baby.
Speaker 6: City, Chuck, you already mentioned this, but like the fact
that although it takes place in Chicago, most of this
was shot in Toronto. One of their problems that they
had shooting in Toronto is that it was too clean.
They would put trash on the set to make it
look like Chicago. The problem was that workers from the
city would see the trash and pick it up and
throw it away. They actually had to get crew members
and dress them up as guards to guard the trash
so that their city of Chicago in Toronto right would
continue to look like Chicago.
Speaker 3: Those darn clean Canadians.
Speaker 2: I know, hey.
Speaker 4: I wanted to point out that, because I was working
at the movie theater, I saw this poster all summer long.
You can see I have a Bukaroo Bonsai poster behind me,
So I have a bunch of posters that I was
able to take home. The one I couldn't get was
the one for Adventures and Babysitting because someone else had
snagged it before I was able.
Speaker 2: To get there.
Speaker 4: That poster was drawn by Drew Strusan, who would go
on to draw a lot of the Star Wars and
a lot of the posters that we have come to love.
Speaking of like the other people who work inside this film,
I did want to say that the composer was Michael Kaman,
who wrote the film and this movie does have a
proper score to it, and you will know him from
the greatest Christmas movie ever made, die Hard. And then finally, finally,
I wanted to recognize the cinematographer. I know, you guys
normally don't get down into this deep part of it.
But I love how the movies are made, as I
said earlier, and this was done by Rock Waite, and
Rock worked on a lot of great films, including forty
eight Hours, Footloose, Red down there with John Milius and
all the other folks we've been naming today. He worked
with Brewsters Millions, He worked with Carl Reiner on Summer Rental,
and he did two John Candy films. He also did Volunteers.
That year he shot Cobra Rambo three and The Great Outdoors.
So this guy has a lot of films that you
guys have talked about that we all loved from the eighties.
Speaker 3: Right there, Okay, two nuggets for you. You can see
by like their letter jackets and stuff. They go to
Hemingway Hot which is a fictional school, but Ernest Hemingway
was born and raised in Oak Park, Illinois, and so
that was a tribute to Ernest Hemingway.
Speaker 5: Oh interesting, nice kays.
Speaker 3: And then lastly, I wanted to drop. I looked up
the movie starts with a needle drop for the Crystal song,
and then he kissed Me, which is a great, great
song and a wonderful way to kick off the movie.
So I was looking at this. That song was written
by Phil Spector, Ellie Greenwich, and Jeff Barry, who all
wrote be My Baby, which we talked about on our
Dirty Dancing.
Speaker 2: Episode, which, by the way, to tie it back again
features Share singing in the background in one of her
very first recordings.
Speaker 3: That's right, and also it's featured in the movie Dirty Dancing,
which stars Jennifer Gray. And then He Kissed Me was
covered by Gary Glitter Kiss and the Beach Boys, and
the singer La La Brooks was just fifteen years old
when she sang it, and Phil Spector went to her
and said, I want you to sing it like there's
a boy that you just kissed, and she's like, I haven't.
I haven't ever really kissed anybody yet. And he's like, then,
just imagine that she just kidd And so she was
too young to have really kissed the boy, and yet
delivers this great vocal for this great song for the ages.
All right, that's all the tibbets I have on Adventures
of Babysitting.
Speaker 6: They got one, Okay, there is so Chris's wife, the director.
Chris's wife is Monica Devereaux. There's a lot of interesting
little easter eggs that are throughout the movie that feature her.
For example, did she choreographed that first scene you're talking about.
Speaker 5: She choreographed that. Then he kissed me.
Speaker 6: Seen also choreographed the scene of the blues at the
bar scene, so she put all that together. There's a
mention when they're on the train. Hey, when this train
rolls through Devereux Street, it's an archer. There is no
Devaux Street in Chicago. Oh nice, But that's her last name.
And if you want to know what she looks like,
she is the prostitute in the white fur coat that
you know says I'm seventeen smart.
Speaker 3: Really whoa, that's a great nugget.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting. That is good. Yeah, you know, and we.
Speaker 3: Talked about it maybe in this episode. I can't remember her.
It was this or or the last one. If you
watch this on Disney, they remove the big F bomb
in that train scene, which the double F bomb, the
double F bomb, that's right, the double fom which when
you watch the movie theater that hit like Bruce willis
yippie kaya line. I mean, it's a nuclear bomb. And
then when you hear don't fool with the babysitter just
doesn't quite.
Speaker 2: Kind of that's all the gas out of the tank,
didn't it right?
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 6: A week ago I was watching it again because I
haven't seen this in decades, since I was watching it
with my daughters. They were twenty and eighteen that maybe
have seen like the remake that was made with the
Disney Channel, and it was kind of a throwaway, you know.
Speaker 5: They didn't know was a remake whatever they saw it.
Speaker 6: Sitting down and watching this and when that scene came on,
my youngest looked at me and he goes, that's not
what she said.
Speaker 4: I had. I didn't get the movie poster. And one
of the other things that we had that was often
given out was you'd have buttons and you'd wear them
on your vest to advertise the movies. And there were
two of them for this movie that I had for
a long time, no idea where they are. One of
them is just a smaller version of the Drew Strusan poster,
but another one is one that just says don't f
and then cartoons swear words with the babysitter on it,
which I wish I had that button.
Speaker 2: Still, I love it. I love it. Quick side note
on the remake, which, by the way, been ten years
since they remade this movie. Really it's been It was
twenty sixteen sixteen, but stars Sabrina Carpenter. Yes, which is
probably not a big impact to Jason because he has
no idea what modern music is like. But she is
one of the hottest pop stars around right now. She
is literally everywhere on the charts all the time for
the last year and a half.
Speaker 5: I would like an expresso right now.
Speaker 2: There you go, that's an express though.
Speaker 5: I want an espresso right now.
Speaker 3: Okay. Any nuggets from Ferris Bueler's Day Off from you.
Speaker 4: Chuck Well, I will I will say that in nineteen
eighty six, this was the tenth highest grossing film of
the year, but there were actually three other comedies that
grossed higher in it, you know. The number one we've
already talked about was Top Gun, not really a comedy,
but the number two was a film about an Australian
man who would go into the outpack crocodile Dundee. The
next movie was The Back to School. Back to School
was number four with Rodney Dangerfield. Finally, we had Ruthless
People came in at number eight with both Danny DeVito
and Bette Midler along with Judge Reinhold in that film.
So this film, it opened on Juna Lee and it
stayed in theaters well until September.
Speaker 2: I mean it was.
Speaker 4: It was in theaters all summer, played at the midnights,
and it was. It was a just a summer of
eighty six. It was a good movie, Yeah, it sure was.
Speaker 6: I got a question for you in terms of nuggets.
You know how when they film cars like in films,
they have multiple versions of that car. My question is
how many Ferraris did they have on set for Ferris
Bueler Zeros.
Speaker 2: They had time.
Speaker 6: I can't afford the insurance to have one just sit
not even touch it.
Speaker 2: Back then it was a fifteen million dollar car.
Speaker 6: Yes, only one hundred were made for real. They couldn't
even afford to have it just sit there and afford
the insurance. So these are all shells of a car.
There was three of them that were on Mustang chassis,
so they have like the normal, but here a car
that the that the kids would write around in. There
was one that was souped up a little bit more
that they could do all the stunts with. And then
the third one was just a fiberglass body that that's
the one that goes out the window. And if you
look really carefully when that car goes down. One of
the problems they had because you can only do that
shot once. Yeah, one of the problems was because it's fiberglass,
it tore on the hood of the car and they're like, okay,
what do we do? So they got some like leaves
and like actually had to like paint some leaves green
or whatever and kind of just put it, you know,
in a way where it didn't you couldn't notice it,
but that you know, the real car wouldn't have done that.
And so it was the third car was made of
fiberglass that went out the window.
Speaker 4: So a comment on the on the car that I
had earlier, I think I said that the sound design
in this film is phenomenal. And the moment that they
open up the garage door and you hear them yeah,
and it starts that whole part there. There's a scene
where Ferris goes over and he puts his finger on
the car and he just strokes it all the way
up and then you hear the big squeak at the end.
Listen to the beginning of it, it's a woman moaning.
Speaker 2: And it's it's Jason. That's the sound of an orgasm.
Speaker 3: I know, thank you.
Speaker 4: But when the car goes out the window there at
the end, as Dave was saying, they had to go
through and this film at this point was being was
when they were filming these scenes, was in October, so
all the foliage was starting to change. And there's a
reverse shot where they're looking at the kids standing in
the framing of the window. If you look at the reflection,
it's it's all autumn leaves. But then when they film
from the reverse side of it, you know they've they've
already because that was filmed earlier. They've already got all
the leaves put out. They had to. They had all
the leaves painted up green. They also had to replace
all of the gale glass inside the building because they
were afraid that when the car went out. First of all,
the glass had a patina on it now that had
already aged, so they couldn't destroy any of the original glass.
The fear was that if they removed that one pain
and replaced it with a fake one, that all of
the other pains might break. Also at the same time,
just from the force and the structure of the home.
So they replaced all of the glass in there with
the glass that you see in there, and then they
reinstalled it. I have one more tidbit, and it's the
tidbit that I can't let go of. It's twist and shout.
How does this movie get a Beatles song in their
film when it's well known that just like Led Zeppelin
and Pink Floyd, the Beatles do not license. They did
not license their music into movies. Luckily they had The
director of music was a former executive at Arista Records,
and he happened to remember something. The Beatles did not
write that song. That song was written by Bert Burns
and Phil Medley. So it turns out the Beatles did
not own the publishing rights. And when they went to
the publishing company, the publishing company is going, yes, make
us money, even though the record label would say no.
So who are they going to deny a company from
making a little bit of income. The second thing about
the song Twist and sout, you'll notice that there's a
horn line that has been added and layered into the song.
So this is this is the Beatles, right, But they
had a marching band that was in front of the
of the float, and they're like, oh, we need to
put a band in there, you know, so a horn
line marching band. And so once again they go to
Ira Newborn, Ira Newborn arrange just the music that they're
gonna layer in on top of it, which was only
Paul McCartney's only comment. He said, he liked the film,
but they overdubbed some lousy brass on the stuff, and
if we had wanted brass, we would have stuck it
in ourselves. And that comment really hurt John Hughes because
he was a big Beatles fan, and even if you
listen to the director commentary, you can hear that he's
still I mean, it's still something that really bothered him
about that comment from McCartney.
Speaker 3: Hey, I love it. Okay, I got one last tidbit
and we'll get into final judgment. Twist and Shout was
also featured in another Summer eighty six movie.
Speaker 4: It was the Gosh, it was the next It's all
the tip of my top. It's almost like the next movie.
It's gonna come to me. I should have had this
one down, but I know it, but I'm not gonna
be able to say it.
Speaker 3: Rodney danger Field sings it and back to school shake by.
Speaker 2: Twist and shoe, Come on, come on, come on home baby,
come on, I'll work head on.
Speaker 3: Oh how about that?
Speaker 2: That was? That was?
Speaker 4: That was not what I was going to say. I
was going to say that it was an it. The
editor Hirsch did another movie after this one, and he
brought the twist and shout to that one, and he
also brought Walking on Shun Sunshine. So Walking on Sunshine
was the song that Hirsh was editing to during the
scene right after they leave the high school with Simone
and they're going into Chicago. Uh, And they replaced that
with Beat City by the flower Pot Men. John Hees
actually liked it until he heard the song over and
over again and then he decided, I'm tired of it,
you know. And John Hughes just being this voracious collector
of all things music, especially music that's over from either
you know, the UK, some some lesser known bands, you know,
he found some other music that he put in there.
Speaker 3: All right, we're on the final judgment. Oh Dave, this
is your movie. You're from Chicago.
Speaker 2: What do you think.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing is like we started this whole series
saying that we want these movies is on the Mount Rushmore.
I mean, Ferris Bueller is the Day Off is iconic
for multiple reasons. So if you're gonna give a judgment,
it's gonna go to Ferris Bueler. However, I want Command
Adventures and Babysitting. This movie, like is able to hold
up to something as iconic as Ferris Bueller. Again, I
mentioned that I was watching it with my daughters because
I was kind of curious to see what their opinion
of this film would be, and they really enjoyed it.
They really liked it. I even kind of just watched
their body language, like are they kind of bored? Are
they on their phones? But they were like really into it.
So this movie, I think is a really strong contender,
you know, versus it being just a blowout of like, oh,
they tried to make this thing like Ferris Bueller by
but they didn't. They didn't get there. No, I feel
like it's strong, all the different character arcs, the nods
to Chicago, it's it's a beautiful movie. So no, it's
got to go to Ferris Buehler. But Man Adventures in
Babysitting even just being able to watch it last week
and just be able to remind myself, is such a
good movie, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Jack, you know, I'll be honest, I was really
hoping that this might be more more of a close
fight than what it was because you look at Adventures
and Babysitting and it's a fantastic debut from Chris Columbus,
no doubt.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's.
Speaker 4: Fun, it's chaotic, it's got hard and it I mean
it works. It taps into a kids on an adventure
vibe that Chris Columbus is so known for. I'm thinking
like of the Goonies.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's kind of got that rescue mission. It's got a
memorable side, memorable side characters, and it kind of delivers
on exactly what it said it was going to do.
But then you got Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and that's
where the conversation is starting to shift for me, because
Ferris isn't just another teen movie. It's just operating on
a completely different level. The interaction between Matthew Broderick and
Alan Ruck, I mean, they're just beyond playing friends there,
and you believe them, you believe that there's history there
and the relationship. Their relationship is absolutely the backbone of
the entire film. And you know, we didn't get this
talk too much about the soundtrack because it's it's almost
an identity inside this film. It's it's just a perfectly
curated mixtape, you know. But then again, what John Hughes
film isn't But I think what the real difference maker
is between Adventures and Babysitting and Ferris Bueller is what
the movie is actually about. So Adventures in Babysitting is
about surviving a wild night. Ferris Buehler is about saving
a friend. Ferris isn't just ditching school. He's doing it
because Cameron is drowning, not literally at first, but maybe
a little bit more emotionally psychologically, and he's stuck under,
you know, this weight of his life, and Ferris is
spending the entire day trying to pull him out of that.
And by the end he does. Literally Cameron stands up
to his father, he faces his fear, he changes. So
you said earlier d that the real hero here in
the movie was it was about Cameron, and you're absolutely right.
It's a transformation. And I do want to say one
last thing about the antagonist, because you know, the antagonists
reinforce all of this. You know, Rooney loses, he's humiliated.
He was fighting Ferris and you really didn't have a chance.
But Jeanie, Jeanie has grown through the whole film. She
realizes that her problem was never about Ferris, it was
really herself. And that's that's real character work, a lot
of character work in a movie on the surface that
you thought you were just going in for a comedy,
And ultimately that's why this isn't really a close call
at all. Adventures in Babysitting is a good movie, but
Ferris Buehler's Day Off is a defining one. So you've
said it before. It's funnier, it's sharper, it's more layered,
and at its core, it's actually got something to say.
Speaker 7: So, oh yeah, Farris wins in Gosh, honestly, it wasn't
even close as much as I was hoping it would be.
Speaker 2: So you're saying, Genie, the problem is you.
Speaker 3: Fit a little time, Less time on your brother, more
time on yourself.
Speaker 2: Go all right, d you're up. I wanted to come
and be a Adventures in Babysitting apologists today, but it
felt like I didn't have to. I really felt like
you guys really brought it in. We did talk more
about Adventures in Babysitting today than we did on our
last episode, and I appreciate that, and I think you
guys are all one percent right. Adventures in Babysitting is
a great movie. It's well directed, it's well acted, it's
got memorable parts. It's got a unique story structure for
Chris Columbus because he does kind of do his or
his fingerprint stuff on it. I didn't actually see this
movie until I was an adult with children, so I
watched it for the first time with kid and they
enjoyed it. But the difference is when I was watching
it today and my sixteen year old came in, he
was like, I think I've seen this movie before, you know.
That was what his reaction was. My fourteen year old,
who was probably eight or nine when she saw Ferris
Bueller's Day Off for the first time, would ask to
see it virtually every week after that. And if that
is the effect that you have on a nine year old,
and we feel the way we do about it into
our fifties, then that tells you that this is more
than just a really good movie. This is a culture changing,
paradigm shifting, truly unique movie that will be talked about
long after people have forgotten what Adventures and Babysitting Ever was.
So you're voting for Ferris Speeler's Dan's it's not a vote,
it's not.
Speaker 5: A question, Okay.
Speaker 3: So I said before, I said it before, and I'll
say it again. One of these is a great movie,
and one of these is among the mount Rushmore movies
of the nineteen eighties. When I watch Flash Gordon, I
enjoy Flash Gordon. I love it. I think it's great.
But when I watch Star Wars, then I really go, Okay,
now that's a great movie. And Flash Gordon came from
Star Wars in that sense, and so Adventures from Babysitting
is a great fun movie. I enjoy it. I think
my kids enjoyed it. It's fun. I really like it.
Chris Columbus, great director. We all love Elizabeth Shoe, but
I agree with all of you guys. I mean, Farrispueler
is a generational movie. It's a once in a generation
type of movie. So mark me down for Farrispeeler's Day Off.
That makes four four times that we voted for first.
Speaker 2: Peler four times.
Speaker 5: Hi, I remember voting four times.
Speaker 2: Guys. Thank you so much for joining us for the
Surely You Can't Be Serious podcast? Jason, while we got
coming up next week?
Speaker 3: See next week We've got Hotel California by the Eagles,
followed by Rumors Fleetwood Mac. We are going toe to
toe with two of the greatest albums of all time.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is going to be epic, Chuck, what do
you got coming up? On the Cinematic Flashback Podcast.
Speaker 4: We are in our Getting Weird Movie month here. I've
been looking for it in a little bit and very
excited about getting to this one, but also a little
bit nervous. Where you know, we've we've just put out
The wicker Man and releasing real soon. Is gonna be Zardas.
This is a film I have been campaigning for to
get the Sean Connery and the Red Diaper. This is
a film that I watched prior to starting the Cinematic
Flashback Podcast, and I have to say it is a
movie that's maybe worth taking a look at. So anyways,
that's all I'll say about it. There's some interesting twist
and turns in that, so yeah, join.
Speaker 2: Us let me just elaborate just a bit, not just
a red diaper, but like a red bikini with bandolero
type bullets strapped across his chest and a ponytail. Yeah.
Speaker 4: For those of you who know the movie, you know
the quote the gun is good, the is bad. And
I'm gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 6: And so you guys are interesting because like you got
this all planned out, Like I just pull up to
the gas station every morning and I just spout whatever.
I'm not that far ahead. I'm just documenting my mid
life crisis. And you can find me at Dave Dolphin Okay,
on all the socials.
Speaker 2: Awesome guys, Be sure and go check out Dave's channel,
Go check out the Cinematic Flashback podcast with Chuck, and
be sure and hits your follower subscribe button on this
podcast if you haven't already. We will see you all
next week. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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