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<v Speaker 1>Around.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the seventy seven w ABC Mini cast.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Jake Novak in for Joe Kanca in tonight. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>really grateful for the opportunity. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>letting me speak to you tonight. And let's get to

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<v Speaker 3>the mccallers right now. Including this is an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Casey who voted for abdul said and now wants

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<v Speaker 3>to switch to Rogers And that's quick buyer's remorse.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on, Casey?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, there was never a thought about switching to Rogers.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always both I'm vote in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>desk brat primary every time, okay, just to get a

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<v Speaker 1>bad candidate and hopefully the Republicans win. But this, but

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<v Speaker 1>here's here's the problem with the Democrats is that they're

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<v Speaker 1>really afraid of Bernie Sanders and the left and their

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<v Speaker 1>hatred of Trump is allowing these these far left lunatics

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<v Speaker 1>to take over. And and you know, like only Fetterman

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<v Speaker 1>has the guts to stand up if these if the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats stood up and and just did a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>they would they would be winning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Casey, you know, you hit the nail on the head.

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<v Speaker 3>The the Democrats have been motivated only by hate, specifically

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<v Speaker 3>hatred of Trump for quite some time now, really going

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<v Speaker 3>on ten years, eleven years, and that is a dead end.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to have something that you're for. Eventually, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a certain there's a very low ceiling for how well,

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<v Speaker 3>how far you're going to go politically. If you only

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<v Speaker 3>have hate, it doesn't work. You need to something else.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got news for the Democrats, really bad news

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<v Speaker 3>for you. Despite all the you know, jokes that Trump

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<v Speaker 3>makes and the moronic statements by people like Steve Bannon

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<v Speaker 3>who's desperately trying to get back into Trump's good graces.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's not running for president again. This is it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to have him to beat up on anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's going to be very difficult for you to

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<v Speaker 3>even get that low ceiling of the hate of Trump

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<v Speaker 3>back again. That's going to be a huge problem for you. Now, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm convinced that people like Mom, Donnie and Elsayah have

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<v Speaker 3>been winning. I mean again, I'll say it has only

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<v Speaker 3>won a primary, and he's only won it narrowly. He

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't won anything yet as far as an actual seat anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>So just remember that. But you know, a big part

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<v Speaker 3>of it is tapping into that hatred of Trump. And

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<v Speaker 3>when your hatred, this is something I've known for.

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<v Speaker 2>A long time. Hate makes you stupid. It just does.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, when you're overly emotional and not rational about decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>That's usually a bad thing too, but nothing more than hate.

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<v Speaker 3>People say, oh, people do stupid things for love, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's true, But actually I think people do even more

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<v Speaker 3>stupid things out of hate, things that really hurt them.

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<v Speaker 3>They spite themselves just to be hateful. And the party

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<v Speaker 3>has lost itself over this.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think they hate him so much?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a lot of different reasons why. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>it has to do with personality. You know, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you something. I'll tell you something, Casey. I'll tell everybody

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<v Speaker 3>about this too. And I got how well educated you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care how well how rational a person you are.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact is ninety nine point nine to nine percent

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<v Speaker 3>of people vote based on an emotional response, just like dating,

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<v Speaker 3>which is, by the way, a great way to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how popular a candidate is really going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>When I heard people back in two thousand and eight

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<v Speaker 3>telling me that they loved Barack Obama, as crazy as

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<v Speaker 3>that was, not to you know, I'm not just because

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<v Speaker 3>you can't love someone that you don't know. But when

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<v Speaker 3>they kept saying I love him, I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy's going to win. In twenty sixteen, when all

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<v Speaker 3>of the Democrats I knew told me, well, Hillary is

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<v Speaker 3>the most qualified to win, I knew she was going

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<v Speaker 3>to lose. That's like going to your mother and say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to marry this woman because she's the most

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<v Speaker 3>qualified to be my wife's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a gay.

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<v Speaker 3>We are emotional beings, no matter how educated we think

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<v Speaker 3>we are, and just like in the dating world, that

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<v Speaker 3>first five ten minutes when we meet someone are in

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<v Speaker 3>about ninety to ninety five percent of our decision process,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's an emotional response. So some people just don't

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<v Speaker 3>like the personality, you know, if you're not from New York,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you're not like somebody like me who I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up with guys like Donald Trump, not billionaires, but

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up with people about his age since he's

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<v Speaker 3>been running for president, who talk like him and acted

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<v Speaker 3>like him for a lot of my life. So there

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't anything that was shocking or different from me. Imagine

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<v Speaker 3>you're some I think that's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>a therapist, and so I'm not going to try to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out all of that. It's kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we spend a lot of time in this world and

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<v Speaker 3>in our lives and our personal lives and in politics

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<v Speaker 3>asking the why do they hate us?

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<v Speaker 2>Question?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, unless you're a trained psychiatrist or

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<v Speaker 3>psychologists or therapist, I wouldn't recommend spending too much time

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<v Speaker 3>on that. Just make sure you protect yourself from them,

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<v Speaker 3>and you'd be the best person you can be.