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<v Speaker 1>Streamy Live on the iHeart Radio WAP. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steam Ravera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to going on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox fourteen and with me, Studo, Jiggins Alt and got

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<v Speaker 2>our guy Great Frants are here from the start, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah you were here. I'd love to be here. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I have another chat next month right for the

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sometime before, right before the super Bowl, were gonna

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<v Speaker 3>try and be here, uh and kick that around with you.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a great deal for us. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's fine. I love coming out here.

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<v Speaker 3>The weird thing is Steve there and my wife, if

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<v Speaker 3>she's listening, she'll be happy to hear this. Every time

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<v Speaker 3>we've come out here, I've had something I've had to

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<v Speaker 3>do after the show, and I haven't been able to stay.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't rolled the dice, haven't played a hand of black jack.

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<v Speaker 3>And today I got to go home right after the

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<v Speaker 3>show as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I can verify that. I can.

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<v Speaker 5>We had dinner that one time. Yeah we didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you stayed and played some punker, but I had

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<v Speaker 3>to leave right after that, so you know, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a good thing. I mean we're getting paid to be here, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and I haven't thrown any of that money back at

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<v Speaker 3>the place.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good for you. Good for you just walking through

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<v Speaker 4>this place. I've only been here twice. Really, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>like Las Vegas. Yeah, it is, it is, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's got that feels comfortable. Yeah, and it's a great

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<v Speaker 4>looking place. So we talked a little about football, or

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<v Speaker 4>a lot about fotball. Let's talk a little about basketball. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>and you and you were talking about just how they

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<v Speaker 4>much they look better, blah blah blah. Uh And and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think they have the perfect coach. And I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to try to just anybody's butt or whatever. But he

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<v Speaker 2>got him through that tough time. And I think mostly

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<v Speaker 2>because of his personality. I don't know if you agree

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<v Speaker 2>with me or not, but he doesn't panic and he

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<v Speaker 2>lets them get through it. I'm not sure that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing the bad thing, but he's they got through it.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember a PAC twelve coach had Tommy's demeanor

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<v Speaker 4>on the sideline? Good question, how much time we have?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he was Yeah, the ones that were like

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<v Speaker 3>that didn't stick around for very long, right, he was

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<v Speaker 3>you know, come on, you didn't, didn't didn't Walt Hazzard

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<v Speaker 3>have that?

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<v Speaker 4>God, you know what. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But and back then it was more of you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>beat loot, so you had to be serious, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Montgomery was the serious guy. Bibby was that guy. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple Rob Evans and su No. But he's not

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<v Speaker 2>at all like Tommy. But he was a laid back guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I just remember him.

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<v Speaker 2>Him and Rosboro kind of he got on rosborow for

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<v Speaker 2>a handshake or something, and I didn't like him after that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, he allegedly said, look at me when I

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<v Speaker 3>kicked your ass, right the quote the weird remember that

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<v Speaker 3>after they beat as you beat him up there and

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<v Speaker 3>they were shaking hands and he told Rosboro that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then next year, in the year after it was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna turn the favorite big time. Yeah, but I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I don't I don't remember anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was, you know, really serious like that. There

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<v Speaker 2>really isn't anybody like that that you think of now, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the Pac twelve, No, But Tommy is. You know, Tomy's

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<v Speaker 2>a different cat though, he's just a different His demeanor is.

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<v Speaker 5>It's almost it's almost like he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't look like anything bothers him. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about Brent Brennan, right, who's kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, you know, same but different, Same but different.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't feel you feel Tommy's way more engaged than

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Brennan is. But you watch Tommy in the game,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, there's time he sees a call and he'll

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<v Speaker 3>yell at a guy or whatever, but you don't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like he's losing it to the point of not paying

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<v Speaker 3>attention to what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the thing my difference. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why I would do this, but I would go with

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<v Speaker 2>for a drink with Tommy. With Brent, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have to buy the beer. Does he drink beer?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>See, you know what I'm saying. It's it's a different

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<v Speaker 2>vibe if you had a beer with them. Don't you

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<v Speaker 2>think the first time I went to lunch with Tommy,

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<v Speaker 2>he had two PEPs blue rubins for lunch for lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was better than that. You better he's

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<v Speaker 2>a regular guy. Yeah, well, no, Rolling Rock. He's from

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<v Speaker 2>that area right up there right.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't Rolling Rock a big deal in Oregon in Washington

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<v Speaker 3>up in the Northwest. I know it comes from Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just remember a couple of our road trips

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<v Speaker 3>we would go.

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<v Speaker 5>We would go looking for Rolling Rock nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven Olympia Brewery there then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know Olympia was a big deal. No, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about beer. But the vibe of Tommy's just different.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've said this to him and to many people.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he was the perfect guy to come in to

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<v Speaker 2>replace Sean because of Sewn's situation. It's his demeanor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and that's why he's been successful.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think I think his his way of doing

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<v Speaker 3>things resonates right now with with the bath with today's

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<v Speaker 3>basketball player. Here's one things Like we're talking about McK

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<v Speaker 3>cronin right, who just lit up his players, you know

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<v Speaker 3>last night, two nights ago, I mean, just crapped all

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<v Speaker 3>over them.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's done that before, and he's done before.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen him say things to his players, you know

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<v Speaker 3>when when we're on the sideline at the at the

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<v Speaker 3>Pac twelve tournament and you think what you said, Who

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<v Speaker 3>wants to come and play for a guy like that?

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<v Speaker 3>And nowadays you know, and today's player, I think is

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<v Speaker 3>a little more in a position of power. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>you would say to say, well, then I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to be here for that, because I can play next

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<v Speaker 3>year somewhere. I don't have to sit out somewhere if

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<v Speaker 3>I decide I don't want to play for a guy

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they get a whole year travel around their

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<v Speaker 4>conference looking at these other coaches.

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<v Speaker 5>Right man, I'd like to or talking to other players.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't tell me players don't sit around going, boy,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to play for him? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, And that's what they're doing, because that's what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually physically doing it. But his whole roster changed

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<v Speaker 2>after lest year. Right, guess what if anybody's roster is

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<v Speaker 2>going to change the year to year, it's gonna be it.

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<v Speaker 2>You get there, Hey, you didn't promise me this.

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<v Speaker 4>That guy's such a quack. One game at Michael about

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<v Speaker 4>two years ago, when he was in his fit after

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<v Speaker 4>the game, someone asked him about the ross or something

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<v Speaker 4>and he goes, uh u, c l A doesn't take transfers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he said that, Yeah, well, I remember last year

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<v Speaker 2>was last year was justin it was it was the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who spit He talked about the crowd, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was the guy who spit et.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he said I would expect that from you

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<v Speaker 4>or something. He didn't know who he was, and he

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<v Speaker 4>once told me I was there once when a guy said,

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<v Speaker 4>how come you wear a suit? Everybody else where it's

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, casual clothes. Now he goes, because John

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<v Speaker 4>Woulden would wear a suit. Oh yeah, you are so

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<v Speaker 4>John Wooden.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I wanted to see it, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have I know John Wooden, and you know John Wooden.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see I think perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, uh, you'll see him again next year,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see him again in the year before after. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>is it three years, street years or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, though to your question of seeing people

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<v Speaker 2>in the Pac twelve, I don't remember seeing anybody like Tommy,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a few guys in the Big twelve that

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<v Speaker 2>are like him. You know, come on, Kelvin, although he's older,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like you know it was.

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<v Speaker 5>He seemed like a laid back kind of guy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>he wanted to kick your ass.

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<v Speaker 3>But he wasn't Yeah, you know, he wasn't ready to

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<v Speaker 3>fight you in the middle of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Would he get into it with you? Oh sure, yeah, sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a few I think there's a few in there,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of more casual.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Bill self doesn't do no, he doesn't show anger.

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<v Speaker 2>No. Right, No, that was another guy we wanted to say,

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<v Speaker 2>just that his stature is higher.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, he knows he's gonna be good, no matter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>this bad moment will pass, right exactly like last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had the issue, had him by like eight

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<v Speaker 2>ten at halftime, and then they got their butt kicked

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<v Speaker 2>in the second half, Like you said, twelve points in

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<v Speaker 2>the second half.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was And.

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<v Speaker 2>You're thinking Arizona State might be good, might be give

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona a tough game up in Tempe, and then that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there's the guy with the demeanor everybody likes, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Hurley.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right, Well why didn't do carry him? The most

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<v Speaker 4>famous player ever in Duke.

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<v Speaker 3>And because of that, I think that's you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't want they don't want that guy on their sideline, right, And.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw what happened with the in Netflix. One thing,

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<v Speaker 2>right that it's happened, and it didn't happen and they're state.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you because what I know. And

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<v Speaker 2>and Troy came on the scene maybe two three months

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<v Speaker 2>ago and started talking about kids not being paid from

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<v Speaker 2>being promised, that not being paid. Now we're we're actually

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<v Speaker 2>seeing that.

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<v Speaker 5>Duke or just every anywhere anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>That surprised you.

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<v Speaker 4>I never gave it much thought, but the first time

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<v Speaker 4>it happened, it was that quarterback at the UNLV And

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<v Speaker 4>then I thought, well, if they don't have it in riding,

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<v Speaker 4>this is going to happen more and more.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's happening well, Florida State.

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<v Speaker 4>They're suing that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're suing Leonard Hamilton, four guys, four guys for they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get paid quarter of a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>And then James, when you know how much money guys

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<v Speaker 4>like kle Glove is making for Florida State. Guys are

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<v Speaker 4>making two fifty each Florida State basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they haven't called you yet. Yeah, no, I knew

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<v Speaker 2>you graduated at some point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I have some eligibility left I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm talking about digging your pockets to.

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<v Speaker 3>Take my pocket. They know I don't have that, like

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<v Speaker 3>they got they got my Uh. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>hundred bucks per per season football tea.

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<v Speaker 4>That's they're big.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet they get two hundred bucks from us, and yeah

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<v Speaker 3>and uh and then said, I get a little luggage

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<v Speaker 3>tag every year and this year got I got this

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<v Speaker 4>I got that on my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys, I don't greg. You go to games

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<v Speaker 2>every now and again. Jay's there because he has to

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<v Speaker 2>But these start times are not going to be very favorable.

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<v Speaker 2>And will they have a will McHale be a home

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<v Speaker 2>court advantage when it's eight thirty nine o'clock game next Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's for the next few games, late games eight

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<v Speaker 2>And what about Monday night with Irish State, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>when they need them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, students, it doesn't matter to the students. Yeah, students

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, come on, draw our age now.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny though, because I worked the women's game last

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<v Speaker 3>night against Baylor. It was a great Well, it was

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona just looked out of place. They look they don't

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<v Speaker 3>belong on this court with this team. They go into

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<v Speaker 3>twelve going into the fourth quarter, and I thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're semi respectable. You know, they lose by ten, twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen points, you know, at least say, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>next thing you know, they got a shot to win

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<v Speaker 3>the game, and I thought, what the hell do you

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what what did happen? We went in overtime

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<v Speaker 3>and they lost.

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<v Speaker 4>How did they get that?

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<v Speaker 3>They their defense, their defense that they I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many how many uh layups at you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Baylor went into the lane. What was working all day?

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<v Speaker 3>And then all of a sudden it wasn't. And then

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<v Speaker 3>they just ran some stuff inside and it's like they

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<v Speaker 3>figured something out during the break between the third and

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<v Speaker 3>fourth quarter. And the next thing you know that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they cut it to eight when a couple of possessions,

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<v Speaker 3>then they cut it to six when a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>possessions they cut it to and I'm like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>this game's didn't go overtime. I'm not to stay here

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<v Speaker 3>longer you were.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So Greg, let me ask you a serious

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>People, you know this is her place, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it is anyway. I know exactly

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<v Speaker 4>because she's going to get two percent of the revenue

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<v Speaker 4>sharing money, which which shocked me. Shocked me, and I

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<v Speaker 4>can tell you she is beyond angry. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 4>this is how naive I am with that. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's getting equal shares. No, but no, it's not even close.

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<v Speaker 3>When the football is going to get like she's twelve thirteen,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought a million dollars, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sixty five percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in basketball about sixteen percent, and then baseball softball

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<v Speaker 4>wins basketball about two percent.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes no sense to me, but that's what That's

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<v Speaker 3>how it's going to be across the board.

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<v Speaker 4>Though. You know some on internet Texas Tech Athletic director

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<v Speaker 4>when public and broke down, and that's exactly the cut

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<v Speaker 4>that Arizona's going to have, like that football pays the

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<v Speaker 4>bills to.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you what do you think because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hearing stuff too.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think she's still on the open market attractive

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<v Speaker 4>to the elite jobs?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, yes, to what degree? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Well where's where is she going to go? Though?

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<v Speaker 3>That's going to get her more money than that. There's

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<v Speaker 3>one point two five million, Yeah, you know, where's she

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<v Speaker 3>going to go?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know what they pay at the w

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<v Speaker 4>It's because they're they're going to have a bad season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're not gonna because in the end, they lost

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<v Speaker 3>last night, right and and uh, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 3>getting to the point that watching the the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a big twelve team like Baylor come in and it's different.

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<v Speaker 3>It's different than watching Washington State or Oregon State or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. Like this is a team that's won

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<v Speaker 3>national championships and a horse running at Paradise and now

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, there at Santa Aniita, right and

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<v Speaker 3>and it was really visible last night. What's her name,

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<v Speaker 3>Aaronet von Ley is playing for it's also playing for Baylor,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's good and she was here and now she's

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<v Speaker 3>there and you're wondering, you know, how's that? How how's

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<v Speaker 3>that gonna fly going forward?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And and I'm gonna say, you know, Arizona's talent is

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the road.

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<v Speaker 4>It really is.

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<v Speaker 3>Now their gutsy, they play hard, they look like they

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<v Speaker 3>wear carded. There's a couple of players that maybe look

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<v Speaker 3>like they need some work or some motivation, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>a talent gap. There's a there was a talent gap

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<v Speaker 3>last night between Baylor and Arizona. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona got that game into overtime, to me was stunning

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<v Speaker 3>based on what I saw the first three.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Jay, when we had her on last and we

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<v Speaker 2>were in the studio right when we looked at each

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<v Speaker 2>other when she talked about nil and one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand, how can she compete with the the l

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<v Speaker 2>s us of two million?

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<v Speaker 5>And we're like, looking, this doesn't sound it doesn't sound good.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't sound good. Look at her players were transferred out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Matty Connor is the best shooter in college basketball at TCU.

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<v Speaker 3>If they had her just one one shooter, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>she wasn't a great shooter here, which I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>She had streaks, streaks, that's right. She wasn't a consistent

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<v Speaker 3>She's not at consistent.

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<v Speaker 4>She's alone. There's other people who have.

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<v Speaker 5>But remember they brought that Oregon, the girl from Shavin.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she we saw her play here for Oregon

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<v Speaker 3>and just light up Arizona. And then when they got her,

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<v Speaker 3>I like, Okay, that's the shooter they've been looking for.

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<v Speaker 5>And she was average And the same one with the

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<v Speaker 5>a SU girl, the transfer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, yeah, she would have streaks, but she wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Conference Yeah, no, it's it's weird, but you know, getting

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<v Speaker 3>too the question of a DA Yeah, I mean, and look,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna it's gonna be like that in a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of places. Is that you know when you see where

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<v Speaker 3>women's basketball is on the totem pole, you know there's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a lot of coaches and saying what, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go find something else, whether it's a w NBA

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that, or go be an assistant at

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<v Speaker 3>a place that's got a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here we're talking about the prodigal daughter, right who's

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<v Speaker 2>come back, has raised a level to a degree that

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<v Speaker 2>we never thought possible. And now I'm saying I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I can do this in any Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>the fans are still coming. There was there were sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred there last night. Yeah, you know, they were

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<v Speaker 2>getting you know, I worked some of their games when

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<v Speaker 2>she first got here.

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<v Speaker 3>Five hundred eight hundred. You know, there's still six thousand

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<v Speaker 3>people coming to the game. So they're coming. The question

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<v Speaker 3>is is the money coming in to support what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Tough situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, we got to take a break. We're

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<v Speaker 1>Streaming live on the iHeartRadio. This is High on the

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome back to go on the ball here on Fox.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Steve Rivera, you're Jagans also got great handser with

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<v Speaker 2>a waiting for our guy, mister Aaron Torres from Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports to talk about whatever, but the interesting stuff. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff going on in UV obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>new a D she's kind of first year now almost

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<v Speaker 2>officially a year, she's almost quite a year. Uh so

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stuff the softball going on. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there's stuff there. Baseball starts here pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh twelfth, I saw somewhere, right, I got players, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Mason White, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>It's odd.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm you know that that graphic

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<v Speaker 3>came up and I just kind of glanced at it

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<v Speaker 3>and my somehow the A immediately caught my eye, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Their twelfth there ranked twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's that's like national championship territories, right, because.

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<v Speaker 4>They have pitching. They must have pitching, and they've got

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<v Speaker 4>a superstar pitching coach. That guy they run in last year, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he does all that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, their pitching last year was phenomenal, right, I

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<v Speaker 3>there was some I mean I loved Candyatti last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I just watching him pitch was fun to watch, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and he wasn't even their number one guy. Yeah, Walter, Yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 4>Got Summer Hill, Mason White, Andrew Cane, a kid from

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<v Speaker 4>Ironwood Ridge.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it should be fun and go out to

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<v Speaker 5>the juice box man.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell me again the percentages of if adig gets too,

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<v Speaker 2>who's baseball is getting two?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, depends on the revenue you bring in. Is your

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<v Speaker 4>percentage in baseball? And Whens basketball are about a push? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what they're doing? Okay, I get it now,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Kind of makes sense, Yeah, which means

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they even think about track and field or saw

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<v Speaker 4>or anything like that. Probably not. You don't bring anything. Wow. Yeah, crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's changing everything, and you just wonder what's the

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<v Speaker 3>future of those those other sports, right, you know it

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<v Speaker 3>can't you know, can they survive, can they make it?

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<v Speaker 3>Or does it just become Okay, every school's got a

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<v Speaker 3>football team and that's all you got, boy.

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<v Speaker 4>The male non revenue sports. I think in the next

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<v Speaker 4>five years you're in real danger. Swimming, men's swimming, tennis,

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<v Speaker 4>men's track, tennisnis.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially some of some of the uh you know, facility

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<v Speaker 3>uh dependent sport you know, like a swimming you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to have a swimming facility, right, what it costs to

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<v Speaker 3>run that, what it costs to have a golf course,

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<v Speaker 3>right to be at Tucson Country Club for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for Arizona, can.

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<v Speaker 4>You imagine what it costs for a track team that

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<v Speaker 4>traveled to Baylor for a meet. Yeah, there's a whole

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<v Speaker 4>lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, imagine if you're not all the gear and all this,

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<v Speaker 2>this is at Arizona where you're kind of middling group

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. What if you're at New Mexico, Colorado Stateium,

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<v Speaker 2>no kidding you your toast pretty much? How are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to compete with even the Arizonas when Arizona can't

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<v Speaker 2>compete with the Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're not going to cut any women's sports. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the men's volume sports like track, and I mean, i'd

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<v Speaker 4>say or don't have a very rosy future.

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<v Speaker 3>How many how many athletes are there in a track team?

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<v Speaker 3>Men's and women's.

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<v Speaker 4>Gotta be forty on each, yeah, splitting like.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's almost like a football team. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that you got a.

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<v Speaker 4>Track program, I think it only has twelve scholarships to

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<v Speaker 4>spread among those forty today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they're gonna have to get to get some

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<v Speaker 3>of the revenue, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's tough, that's tough. They have twenty one sports,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty three sports depends on if you count indoor track

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<v Speaker 4>and field for one or two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, let's me ask you don't question because I

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<v Speaker 2>ask the coach, is this question? I know the answer

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<v Speaker 2>they'd say all the time. Are you you're in the

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<v Speaker 2>towilet of your career? You're still doing it out of love?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you glad you're not dealing with it now, even

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<v Speaker 2>though there's a lot to write about it? Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, because it's it's changed so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know what it's like when you're doing it,

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<v Speaker 4>it's part of your routine and it's just what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>Then when you stop doing that routine, it's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>glad I'm not doing that. What the hell was I doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, we've talked about that as writers, and

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<v Speaker 3>we were, you know, in a time when people read

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<v Speaker 3>newspapers and be that's where your stuff was. Right, you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have to be on social media two o'clock in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning because some kid on the East Coast got

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<v Speaker 3>up in the morning and announced where he's going to school.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get video of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and and all of that, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 3>see what you see what guys like Justin Spears, Michael

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<v Speaker 3>lev some of those guys, you know, the pros have

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<v Speaker 3>to do you know to cover sports, and like I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't want to do that, no way, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, on maybe what did you think maybe an average

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<v Speaker 4>of three nights a month you had breaking stuff? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>when we were all in newspapers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's every day's and it's just several times a

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<v Speaker 3>day now on stuff. When you you know, when you

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<v Speaker 3>see that you know, this this wide receiver and that

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<v Speaker 3>coach and this linebacker whatever, all in the same day

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<v Speaker 3>decided on something that affects Arizona and you got to

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<v Speaker 3>you got to do something with that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the good thing is like today you have the news,

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<v Speaker 2>you have stuff to write about. You just never boring,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's the time of it's the what's next to

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<v Speaker 2>what's coming?

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<v Speaker 4>What's you know? And doing it now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're okay. Now we're getting now

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<v Speaker 5>we're you know.

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<v Speaker 4>The good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They're breaking their own stuff, so you're not calling Can

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me first? Can you tell me first? Can

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<v Speaker 2>you do that they're breaking it and you're using their

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to report?

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<v Speaker 3>There is that there's that because I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 3>you know and you know it, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I worried when you when I recovering football, I worry

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<v Speaker 3>that you're gonna have something that I didn't have. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you're worried about that on the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, going the other way. But you know that

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<v Speaker 3>was when I when I was you know, covering the

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<v Speaker 3>police beat. Yeah, you know, something big happened there and

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<v Speaker 3>I got beat on something. You got called into the

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<v Speaker 3>office like, how the hell did you not get this?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>My the one that sticks in my mind about how

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<v Speaker 3>the hell did you not get this?

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<v Speaker 5>Was when when Dick went to the eyebone against U C.

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<v Speaker 2>L A.

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<v Speaker 4>And they ran for like eight.

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<v Speaker 5>Hundred yards And.

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<v Speaker 3>It came after a bye week and they and and

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<v Speaker 3>Dick get talked about how they you know, they just

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<v Speaker 3>changed their their formation in the backfield. I literally got

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<v Speaker 3>called in on Monday. I got called into the managing

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<v Speaker 3>editor's office and said, how did you miss this? Remember

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Emery and I think was the sports editor or

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's Stever Chuck or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 3>I got called into the mana gener's office says, how

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<v Speaker 3>did you miss this? I said, I was a practice

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<v Speaker 3>every day I just did. I just didn't notice it.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want me to do. What are you

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<v Speaker 3>I going to say? You know, because they said they

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<v Speaker 3>practiced all that, you know during the off week. I said, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I was a practice every day. When I go to practice,

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<v Speaker 3>I go to practice to see who got hurt. And

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see the alignment difference. And I got in

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<v Speaker 3>trouble for that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we talked about it. Now. When we go to

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<v Speaker 2>the spring not spring, but we go to the fall

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<v Speaker 2>practice and we see what we see, it says, what

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<v Speaker 2>are we trying to see? We don't know what we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to see. You know, we're just seeing the people

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<v Speaker 2>are held, they're healthier, whatever, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>You see who's playing, who's the first team quarterback, who's

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<v Speaker 3>the second dam quarterback?

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever. Yeah, that was the only reason you had to

637
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<v Speaker 4>spend those two to three hours every.

638
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<v Speaker 5>Every day, man, going to football practice.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think these kids or the people today

640
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<v Speaker 2>are covering this?

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00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:12.599
<v Speaker 3>Well?

642
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<v Speaker 4>Wish we can go to practice. You don't know.

643
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<v Speaker 3>You don't If you had to go every day, you

644
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 3>would hate life. Yes, famous last words from Jack Richard.

645
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 3>When I started working here, Jack said, I met him

646
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 3>the first time. He said, what beat you do? And

647
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:27.720
<v Speaker 3>I said football, And he goes, sorry, what are you

648
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 3>talking about. You have to go to every practice, don't you.

649
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah. He said, that's why I quit basketball.

650
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, no, yeah, So it was and you stand

651
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 3>there and your back would hurt, and it's you know,

652
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I got you know, the first year I

653
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<v Speaker 3>went to campco Chase and I took a lawn chair,

654
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<v Speaker 3>you know, to sit be on the sidelines. Well, I

655
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<v Speaker 3>didn't take one after the first day, after the first

656
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<v Speaker 3>day of two a days and we were all just

657
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.240
<v Speaker 3>standing there, and everybody just stood there. I went to

658
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>that kmart next door to the next door to the

659
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Motel six, and I got myself a chair, you know.

660
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<v Speaker 4>Don't you next to the prison.

661
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<v Speaker 5>And it was the next thing that well, yeah, it was.

662
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<v Speaker 3>You had the prison, the Motel six, in the in

663
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 3>the kmart, and and Tom Donaldson took a picture of that,

664
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<v Speaker 3>took you know, from the other side of the field,

665
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 3>took a picture of me sitting in my lawn chair

666
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 3>and threatened to send it to.

667
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<v Speaker 4>Our editor.

668
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<v Speaker 3>But then and then all of a sudden, people realized

669
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<v Speaker 3>that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

671
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<v Speaker 5>And then we all had chairs and.

672
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 4>You couldn't beat the camaraderie. Well, that was a good times,

673
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:32.559
<v Speaker 4>the good times because we could go play pool. Or

674
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 4>that's funny.

675
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 3>I was golfing with my my son and uh, he

676
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.079
<v Speaker 3>takes he takes his little music speaker and he plays music.

677
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 3>But the guy we're playing with also had his own

678
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 3>music and friends in low places. That that country song.

679
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I explained the story to my my son. I said,

680
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 3>that was a Dawson's bar and grill uh staple. Butch

681
00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Henry would play that every time we went over there

682
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 3>to shoot pool. I said, Adam, we would shoot pool

683
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<v Speaker 3>with Dwayne and Quina and and and and and uh

684
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Mark Lunsford and and Pat Hill and all those guys.

685
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 3>We could go shoot pool and drink beer with those

686
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.920
<v Speaker 3>guys all night long. And Butcher would keep feeding country

687
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 3>music into the thing. But I said, that's how it was. Then,

688
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 3>think about you were the sports information director. You kept

689
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<v Speaker 3>us away from everything, and that was your job, not

690
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<v Speaker 3>because you wanted to, but because that's what they wanted

691
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<v Speaker 3>you to do.

692
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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know.

693
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<v Speaker 3>If it's hard for you to fathom what that was like,

694
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<v Speaker 3>not only the camaraderie between the writers who were competing

695
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 3>but still friends, friends and then the you know, the

696
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.640
<v Speaker 3>coaches and stuff playing poker. Remember at Tech at the

697
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Texas Techi we went and got a bunch of beer,

698
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.200
<v Speaker 3>filled up the bathtub with beer, and the coaches came

699
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 3>over and played poker in that room and that game

700
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.319
<v Speaker 3>the next day and they got their asses kicked. But

701
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't why they got their But we played poker

702
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:59.039
<v Speaker 3>into the night. James Gray was the reason why.

703
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.480
<v Speaker 4>I remember about going into a bar and York City

704
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 4>with Jim Rosborough the night before a game in the preseason.

705
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 4>N I t every time Arizona's in a preseason n

706
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.960
<v Speaker 4>I would you go at that same bar? It would

707
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 4>be Rasim Donaldson late eighties in the early nineties. It

708
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 4>was just you can't beat those times. Those that's what

709
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 4>was the fun. That was what was fun about being

710
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.279
<v Speaker 4>a sports writer and why it was work. But it

711
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 4>wasn't because you were having so much fun.

712
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>And once you were done, you were done, once you wrote

713
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>your stuff and you sall meet you down there or whatever.

714
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, you know, if you're not Bruce, you're not

715
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>doing it.

716
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you.

717
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Let me here's another dichotomy, guys, Greg specific to you.

718
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>They need to sell tickets, right, they need to sell tickets,

719
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>But how do you sell tickets to to to to

720
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>fans who don't know who the players are because we're

721
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 2>not allowed to tell those It's not that we're not

722
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 2>allowed to tell the stories.

723
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:51.599
<v Speaker 4>They don't let us.

724
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 2>We're not able to tell their stories. How do you

725
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 2>go with that? Back in the day, they knew the

726
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>players because we told their stories. Now that's not the case.

727
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I remember going to of all players by some DeLay's apartment.

728
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:06.799
<v Speaker 2>He was the most.

729
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 4>In antic. He was a tough guy. Yeah, to get

730
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 4>to know he let me go to his apartment, Yeah,

731
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 4>and talk to me for an hour and a half.

732
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 4>If you tried that now, they wouldn't even do You.

733
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 3>Remember walking walking into their locker room after they lost

734
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 3>in Long Beach in nineteen nineteen ninety to Alabama. Yes,

735
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 3>and the door opens and he's sitting there on a

736
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 3>slumped in a folding chair and you said, I'm not

737
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 3>going over there. And I was the one who had

738
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:34.319
<v Speaker 3>to go over there and talked it.

739
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 4>And then I heard Judd Busher just ripping me.

740
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.079
<v Speaker 3>Look at that guy, and that was part of the reason. Well,

741
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:43.599
<v Speaker 3>that was why Luke got mad, And that's why Luke

742
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 3>got mad at me over that whole story. Didn't talk

743
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 3>to me for years after that. But you know again,

744
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, you talk about Bison dalely. You know, I

745
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 3>went to I just wanted to spend the day at

746
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.359
<v Speaker 3>Steve Kerr's apartment before the eighty eight season.

747
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 5>I picked him up at practice.

748
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I picked him up up, We threw his he had

749
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 3>he had ridden his bike to to practice. He lived

750
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 3>over there in that those apartments that had been in

751
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 3>elementary school on Park and uh Park and Speedway just

752
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:13.240
<v Speaker 3>north of Speedway on Park that converted an elementary school

753
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 3>into some apartments and that's where he was living with

754
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 3>Bruce Fraser. We threw his bike in the trunk of

755
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 3>my car and we went over to Sausage Deli. We

756
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 3>got some sandwiches, and I went to his apartment, he

757
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 3>and Bruce and we watched football all day and I

758
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 3>just see and I interviewed him for a little while,

759
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 3>and then I was probably there three four hours, you know.

760
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.480
<v Speaker 3>And well, to my to my point, because and I

761
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 3>got a better story because of that, no question.

762
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 2>And people knew who they were. And to my point,

763
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>for this with with Loot, he let them grow up,

764
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:42.599
<v Speaker 2>let them say what they wanted to say with you know,

765
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.839
<v Speaker 2>with what the reason Now you know, Greg comes in

766
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 2>Burn and Sean and it's limited very watch what you say,

767
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 2>YadA YadA. It's almost us against them and it should

768
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.319
<v Speaker 2>never be, never come to that, but it has.

769
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<v Speaker 4>Arizona beat Utah Utah and like two thousand five fifteen

770
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 4>when Utah was the top twenty five team in basketball. Yeah,

771
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 4>and it was on deadline game and I was waiting

772
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.239
<v Speaker 4>in the tunnel a way back there, yeah, and Solomon

773
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 4>Hill walks out and he saw me. He said, you

774
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 4>want to talk to me? Yeah, So I went over

775
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 4>started talking to him and that sid they had at

776
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 4>the time, Oh Corey. Yes, Corey was over and physically

777
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 4>pulled me away, pulled you away, wouldn't let me talk

778
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:24.440
<v Speaker 4>to me.

779
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.199
<v Speaker 3>I would have fist fought right there. We would have

780
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 3>thrown me, but that's the extreme. We would have thrown hands.

781
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:33.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, completely harmless something Yeah yeah, yeah, And that was

782
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 4>just the way it is and still kind of is

783
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 4>it makes no sense? Yeah, no it is.

784
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, again going back to the you

785
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 3>know those days, you know when I went and interviewed

786
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Cook that year, he's his senior year. Right, so

787
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.280
<v Speaker 3>I was doing his senior year story, went to went

788
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 3>to he was sharing a dorm room with Shawn Elliott, well,

789
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.079
<v Speaker 3>not really shared, it was a Sean had his room.

790
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 3>The bathroom was in between. And then Anthony sweet sweet right,

791
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Speaker 3>the sweet they were sweet me and you know that

792
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 3>was where Anthony cooked told me his dad had committed suicide.

793
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 4>And we got that personal.

794
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, you don't get that anymore unless you're the

795
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 3>dude on ESPN that does those stories for Game Day,

796
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 3>right when those those very sad stories that they do.

797
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 3>You don't get those stories anymore, you know, because because

798
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 3>Greg you as a columnist, and Justin Spears and Mike

799
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:23.519
<v Speaker 3>lev and Brian Peterson and those other guys, you guys

800
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 3>all get the same thing. Yeah it saw well you

801
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 3>write it yea or we you know, we would record

802
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 3>that the press the press conferences and just play it.

803
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 5>And that's what was in those guys of stories, the

804
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:35.840
<v Speaker 5>exact same words.

805
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:36.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

806
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there needs to be a change. If they're going

807
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>to sell some tickets, they need to figure that out. Yeah,

808
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.559
<v Speaker 2>I think yeah. All right, all right, we're here at

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<v Speaker 2>Soul Sports Sportsbook. We got about another well we'll be

810
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 2>here for twenty five minutes. We've got a little little break.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Greg Hanson who's joined us here for the

812
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 2>whole hour. We've been kicking around a lot of stories,

813
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 2>but talking about a lot of stuff going on right now. Uh,

814
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 2>just some of that future stuff, man, this scary stuff

815
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<v Speaker 2>without college sports.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, sol Sports Sports Book. We'll be here for another

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<v Speaker 3>off till the top of the hour. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a look back at the Ludelsen era in my

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's

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<v Speaker 2>he built the program into a national powerhouse. Want one

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<v Speaker 2>Email me at Steve dot rivera ninety five at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the xs and os. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports sporteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>We welcome back.

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<v Speaker 4>You're taking on a.

895
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<v Speaker 2>Big game here in about forty five minutes right start.

896
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we haven't talked about that enough Here at SOHL

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<v Speaker 3>and or bet on the Notre Dame Penn State game.

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame minus one and a half. Who are you taking, Steve,

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<v Speaker 3>Penn State? Really, PennState? Are you taking that in our pool?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, speaking of you know, I'm I'm not

902
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<v Speaker 3>doing this. I'm not doing this speaking of I need,

903
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<v Speaker 3>we need to help people. I know I haven't been

904
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<v Speaker 3>posting the our our, our, our game.

905
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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead because I'm still winning.

906
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:10.039
<v Speaker 4>But I have.

907
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 3>I have almost run Steve down. I was I was

908
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.920
<v Speaker 3>what six points behind you a few weeks ago. I'm

909
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 3>half a point behind you with fifty six and a

910
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<v Speaker 3>half to fifty six with this weekend and next weekend

911
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<v Speaker 3>left to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I choked a big one this weekend. Yeah, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are fifty six Yeah no, no, no, that's the number.

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<v Speaker 3>No that that's our points, fifty six points sixties like

915
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<v Speaker 3>in the money.

916
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yes, yeah, you're there is I got sixty

917
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<v Speaker 2>two someone, so you're about eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>Ish forty forty so yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah.

919
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<v Speaker 3>I was up there and then I I was never stinking,

920
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:48.559
<v Speaker 3>but he was. He was killing it for a while,

921
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.119
<v Speaker 3>and I was. I fell way behind him. But I've

922
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<v Speaker 3>run him down, you.

923
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 4>Run me down.

924
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:53.800
<v Speaker 2>So I got to figure out what you're picking in

925
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 2>the school the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I already told you one. Yeah, I don't. I

927
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<v Speaker 4>don't know. I don't know which one is it.

928
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to tell you now if you forgot

929
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:07.920
<v Speaker 3>already telling you not the spread six six they came

930
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.960
<v Speaker 3>out of it, came out of six. There's there's eight games.

931
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 3>There's the two college games and then the six so

932
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 3>wildcard games over the weekend.

933
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:18.480
<v Speaker 4>With this one tonight. So just because I'll have to

934
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<v Speaker 4>go with the pros.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I might, I might, you know, when we wrap

936
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<v Speaker 3>up here, I still might throw my picks in for

937
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 3>counting today's game.

938
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<v Speaker 1>So I.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you love the Do you love the playoff? I do?

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<v Speaker 4>I love the college football player.

941
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's entertaining. It's they're gonna have to go to sixteen.

942
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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna say that it's entertaining, You're not, like, well.

943
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<v Speaker 4>I didn't. I didn't like the issue being involved. Well, okay,

944
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 4>I know, but take take your but.

945
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<v Speaker 3>The tournament itself, it's yeah, Now again, I agree with

946
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 3>what everybody else is saying that they can't give automatic

947
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 3>or can't give you know, top seeds just because you're

948
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.480
<v Speaker 3>a conference champion, you should be able to get in,

949
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, an automatic bid for for winning your league championship.

950
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 3>But you know, the A s U and both Boise

951
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 3>State seeds they were seated too high.

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00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 4>I agree with that.

953
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm here now that they're not going to change that

954
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<v Speaker 3>for the next one. That they're not going to change

955
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<v Speaker 3>it until you know, they're gonna let this run a

956
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<v Speaker 3>couple of years. Before they do that, They're gonna wait

957
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.559
<v Speaker 3>and see what happens next year. But I've been fascinated

958
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<v Speaker 3>about it. I I I love those games. On New

959
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Year's Eve in New Year's Day, that was really cool,

960
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.599
<v Speaker 3>and I started thinking, you know, back in the day,

961
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<v Speaker 3>we had all these bowl games, and we didn't really

962
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.159
<v Speaker 3>we had three games in the morning, and then you

963
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<v Speaker 3>had the Rose Bowl and the Orange Bowl, so really

964
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<v Speaker 3>only five games. We were going to get three had

965
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<v Speaker 3>they not canceled the And you know, if if if

966
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<v Speaker 3>something would have been up against the as UH Texas game,

967
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:49.800
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't watching those other games I was watching, I

968
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<v Speaker 3>would be watching the playoffs. So the fact that there

969
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 3>were only three games scheduled for that day, and they

970
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 3>won after the other I thought was cool and the

971
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:57.559
<v Speaker 3>Rose Bulls still felt like the Rose Bowl.

972
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's it's been fun. I think they're going

973
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<v Speaker 2>to the sixteen games that'd been more fair to everybody.

974
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Won't do that next year, No, no, no, no, ultimately

975
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 3>they will well again when you think and of course,

976
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 3>the reason a couple of the you know, all four

977
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<v Speaker 3>top seeds lost, but the reason two of them wanted

978
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 3>is because they shouldn't have been.

979
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<v Speaker 2>Top seeds, right, yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, No,

980
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it's been it's been cool. Tonight's this weekends should be

981
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.679
<v Speaker 2>pretty good as well. Let's go back to basketball. So

982
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:26.159
<v Speaker 2>about a week ago Arizona and maybe to your point, Jay,

983
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:28.719
<v Speaker 2>uh no, one, a few people had to be in

984
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the tournament. They were out of the tournament. Now they're

985
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 2>back in. We'll see how high they go, how well

986
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 2>they play. But I'm thinking they're not a four seeds

987
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.639
<v Speaker 2>right now. They're not a four seed if things go well,

988
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean they could be.

989
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:41.880
<v Speaker 4>A five to six. You think they're back in the

990
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 4>mix though, Yeah, I mean Campom has them fifteen.

991
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Though, yeah, fourteen, I think When then I saw something

992
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 3>and I'm looking up. I'm looking up to see where

993
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.559
<v Speaker 3>they are on on DraftKings in terms of, you know,

994
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 3>winning the league. But I saw the thing that had

995
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.159
<v Speaker 3>them as the fourth place team. It was for you know,

996
00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 3>fourth highest best odds to win the league at this

997
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:01.800
<v Speaker 3>And I put that yesterday on Facebook.

998
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 4>Did you okay? That's why follow you.

999
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<v Speaker 3>Very rarely haven't finished reading your book, but I follow you,

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<v Speaker 3>jab follows. You know, my grandson loves your book. He

1001
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>comes to the house every day that he comes to

1002
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<v Speaker 3>the house. It's sitting there on the table next to

1003
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.039
<v Speaker 3>my desk, and he rips it open. He throws the

1004
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<v Speaker 3>cover in the you know, on the ground, and then

1005
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 3>he just leaves it there, all the stuff inside. Yeah, yeah,

1006
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 3>this is boring.

1007
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:32.679
<v Speaker 2>There's no pictures in this. So they're gonna be okay.

1008
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:36.960
<v Speaker 2>What okay means I don't know because I said this

1009
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.599
<v Speaker 2>a month or so ago. They have flaws. Those flaws

1010
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.920
<v Speaker 2>are still there, I think, But are they? Well, Townson's

1011
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 2>not going to help you. Waka is probably not gonna

1012
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:50.039
<v Speaker 2>help you. Although what would they have if they didn't

1013
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 2>have those two.

1014
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:55.239
<v Speaker 3>But those guys have been they've they they have filled

1015
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:58.320
<v Speaker 3>the role that they that they needed to Toby a

1016
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Waka just needs to be physical and side. You know,

1017
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 3>when they bring Henry Vassart in, they've got a little

1018
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.880
<v Speaker 3>bit more of a scoring threat with him. Uh, Trey

1019
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Townsend has to realize. I know, he made like eight

1020
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:11.119
<v Speaker 3>three pointers in that first exhibition game, but that's not

1021
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.800
<v Speaker 3>who he is. He's got to be physical inside, get

1022
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 3>some rebounds, you know, make some plays, make a shot

1023
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:19.960
<v Speaker 3>here and there, and you know, I think I think

1024
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Trey Townsend was trying to be more than what he's

1025
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be and that's been you know, realized and

1026
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 3>sort of fixed. Those are the things that I'm talking about, Steve.

1027
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:33.239
<v Speaker 3>They aren't who they were anymore. I at least from

1028
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.559
<v Speaker 3>what we've seen over the last maybe the last four game,

1029
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 3>but certainly the last three, you know, conference games.

1030
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I still believe that they hit a stretch here where

1031
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 2>they beat teams that she should have beaten.

1032
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 4>That's just how I feel.

1033
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Big DraftKings has Arizona as the third favorite to win.

1034
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.440
<v Speaker 3>It's at one thousand. Okay, so they got they got

1035
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Houston at one twenty. I alway stayed at one fifty five.

1036
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Then you get to Arizona one thousand. I head of

1037
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Kansas to be at twelve eleven. There's an eleven hundred.

1038
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 3>Is Kansas Texas tack at fourteen? Baylor two thousands?

1039
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<v Speaker 4>So great?

1040
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Just to say this again, you agree with me in

1041
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the last few games.

1042
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Cincinnati is not a top twenty five team. Yeah.

1043
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 4>West Virginia's dust player didn't play. But I think maybe

1044
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:20.280
<v Speaker 4>you guys disagree with this. I think Henry Visa has

1045
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:22.239
<v Speaker 4>got a heck of the future. Oh heck, I thought

1046
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:23.199
<v Speaker 4>that two years ago.

1047
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow, he's better than Grant Jarrett was a stretch four,

1048
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.199
<v Speaker 2>stretch five. He can actually play. Maybe his shots are

1049
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:31.559
<v Speaker 2>a little questionable from the three, but.

1050
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 4>He can hit the three. Oh I watch him in practice.

1051
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's going to be a heck of a player.

1052
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 4>Can you put the ball on the ground and move

1053
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 4>with it. Yeah.

1054
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's got to get his feet under him a

1055
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.320
<v Speaker 3>little bit more. But he's had again another thing that

1056
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 3>you see that a little better every game.

1057
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:49.760
<v Speaker 2>And let's let's not say this or let's go with here.

1058
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Prebos kind of bogged it down. Yes, yes, it's not

1059
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 2>bogged out anymore.

1060
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:54.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1061
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they were trying to because he's a really good player.

1062
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 3>And then so they were trying to force that one.

1063
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Maybe because of the injury, Uh, maybe because he didn't

1064
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 3>practice much in the in the off season. But you're right,

1065
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 3>he was clogging things up in terms of the rotation

1066
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.400
<v Speaker 3>and stuff because Tommy felt like we got to get

1067
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:11.679
<v Speaker 3>him in there because we need him. But now that

1068
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 3>he's gone, it's cleared a lot of things up. Sure,

1069
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 3>and the motion is different, Yes, it's very it's very

1070
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:19.559
<v Speaker 3>different because they know who tobyo Waka is. Right, He's

1071
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:21.760
<v Speaker 3>a guy that's going to bruise inside. If he gets

1072
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:23.639
<v Speaker 3>the ball, he's gonna kick it back out to somebody

1073
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 3>unless he's right under the basket.

1074
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Then he's gonna get physical and throw it up there.

1075
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:28.280
<v Speaker 5>But Tobyo Waka is not.

1076
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 3>He can't do what Crevis does, and as long as

1077
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.760
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't try to do what Creevus does, then he's useful.

1078
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I think Visar will have a few clunkers at the

1079
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:41.159
<v Speaker 4>worst possible time. Yeah, but I also think he'll continue

1080
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:43.719
<v Speaker 4>to grow and if he comes back next year, I

1081
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:45.079
<v Speaker 4>think he could be an all conference player.

1082
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no question in a tough conference. Right, what

1083
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 2>about this this guy dyl also? So you need him

1084
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>you need him. Like the other night, he had ten points, right,

1085
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.480
<v Speaker 2>that's given. That's points to that's gravy because he's not

1086
00:47:57.559 --> 00:47:58.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna give you ten points every night.

1087
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:00.599
<v Speaker 4>But he's got to.

1088
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:04.440
<v Speaker 3>He's got to hit a couple of clutch threes every game.

1089
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 3>If it's two, maybe three, that's what he's for.

1090
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:10.679
<v Speaker 5>He's he's got to he's got to stretch the defense

1091
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 5>out to him.

1092
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.119
<v Speaker 3>And it's to the point where if he's gonna shoot,

1093
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.280
<v Speaker 3>he's you know, they got to know that they can't

1094
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:19.320
<v Speaker 3>let him shoot if he makes it, you know, a

1095
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.119
<v Speaker 3>couple of shots a game. I just got to just

1096
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:24.000
<v Speaker 3>make his first one, and now the defense has to

1097
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:24.800
<v Speaker 3>pay attention to him.

1098
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Well here, here's what you gotta have.

1099
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 2>That from him, you have a walk to get you know,

1100
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe six seven points with about seven rebounds. And then

1101
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Townsend kind of helped with that. So I you, those

1102
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 2>three dudes who you don't expect much from give you something.

1103
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.719
<v Speaker 2>This team could be okay, if that makes any sense.

1104
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 2>I think they brought.

1105
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:45.199
<v Speaker 4>Townsend in on on the premise, we're gonna let you

1106
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 4>develop into a three point shooters, see what the scouts

1107
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:51.920
<v Speaker 4>think about you. And after a few months they went No, that's.

1108
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because he has stopped shooting him Now he'll throw

1109
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 3>one up hit, but but he's not doing he's.

1110
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Not he's not looking for that shot. Right.

1111
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 3>If he gets it and he's wide open, he'll take it,

1112
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 3>which is good. And if he makes a few, then

1113
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.440
<v Speaker 3>then that's great. But he's not shooting it all the

1114
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.400
<v Speaker 3>time like she was earlier in the season, which leads

1115
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 3>me to this question. Guys Arizona will go as far

1116
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 3>as as that that three guard tandem takes them. Those

1117
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 3>guys have to continue to play together, continue to respect

1118
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.599
<v Speaker 3>each other's roles, and not get selfish.

1119
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.000
<v Speaker 5>That's I think that's what has to happen.

1120
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 3>And then all those other things del orso and and

1121
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.000
<v Speaker 3>and vas are in towns, all those things fall into place.

1122
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:38.519
<v Speaker 3>If those three guys are doing what they can do

1123
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.079
<v Speaker 3>and should do. That's how I see it. Yeah, that's

1124
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 3>my expert opinion.

1125
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:46.239
<v Speaker 4>What it's worth. Thank you very much.

1126
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:48.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what your group probably says to No, but I agree,

1127
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.599
<v Speaker 2>it's it's the three three. It's the three guys, I mean,

1128
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the three of me goes. If they don't play well together,

1129
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:55.760
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to go work far. Yeah, and then

1130
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Caleb is so hot and cold that I don't know

1131
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.440
<v Speaker 2>but there. But you know, the guy that they need

1132
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 2>all the time is Jayden. He's he's the he's the

1133
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:06.519
<v Speaker 2>the wholeus of the group.

1134
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 3>But when Caleb had thirty something, thirty one, thirty three

1135
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:11.559
<v Speaker 3>the other night, did you think he had that many points?

1136
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 11>So?

1137
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.320
<v Speaker 3>I didn't either, because you know, on my screen, you know,

1138
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.400
<v Speaker 3>when I'm when I'm doing the stats, it doesn't give

1139
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.440
<v Speaker 3>me any stats like that. If I want to see stats,

1140
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I've got to open up the stat broadcast. And late

1141
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:24.960
<v Speaker 3>in the game, I you know, I looked up at

1142
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.599
<v Speaker 3>the board, you know, in the scoreboard in the in

1143
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 3>the arena, and I said that he had he was

1144
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 3>in his thirties.

1145
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, when the hell did that happen? I

1146
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:35.039
<v Speaker 4>had no idea. It didn't look like thirty points to me.

1147
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:37.920
<v Speaker 4>This team looks so much different when he's doing that, though.

1148
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he they wrote him last.

1149
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 3>Year, and until he didn't right, until he couldn't well,

1150
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:44.639
<v Speaker 3>until that the load got too heavy, and it you.

1151
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 4>Know, I guess what hold on to your ask?

1152
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 5>Of course, of course you go based on somebody's history.

1153
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, where do you think I'll happen to Caleb

1154
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Love after beyond.

1155
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:01.199
<v Speaker 3>He'll he'll he'll, yeah, he'll sign as a free agent,

1156
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:03.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, with the NBA. He'll get his shot in

1157
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:06.119
<v Speaker 3>the G League or whatever, and then he'll wind up overseas.

1158
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 3>He's not the same kind of player, but in terms

1159
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:15.519
<v Speaker 3>of his level, he's He's who We've had him on

1160
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 3>the show. He's been overseas forever.

1161
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't know the guard. No, no, the you have

1162
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 4>a guard? Why can I think his name is Johnson?

1163
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, he's a level of player, but that he

1164
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 3>can go overseas, probably do really, really well.

1165
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 5>But he's just not quite good enough, isn't it.

1166
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Here's to you guys, that he's this good that we

1167
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:42.840
<v Speaker 2>see a back player of the Year blah blah blah,

1168
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.360
<v Speaker 2>and he's not even the fourth best player on the team.

1169
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 4>That's how good you for the NBA.

1170
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's how good you've got to be to be

1171
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 3>in the NBA. That's what it's saying. You know, Tiger

1172
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 3>Campbell didn't make it in the NBA.

1173
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:54.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1174
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just one of those.

1175
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:57.480
<v Speaker 4>And I hated that guy. I thought he was the

1176
00:51:57.519 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 4>most effective player in the league.

1177
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 3>He was, he was as good as I hated him,

1178
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:04.400
<v Speaker 3>as much as I hated Darren Collison.

1179
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:06.519
<v Speaker 4>Remember Darren Collson. That guy would come in here and

1180
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 4>kill Arizona.

1181
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.360
<v Speaker 3>And he was that kind of a guy because you

1182
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:12.199
<v Speaker 3>looked at him and said, you can't be that good

1183
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:15.400
<v Speaker 3>because you're five foot four and one hundred and twenty pounds,

1184
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:16.320
<v Speaker 3>and yet you're that good.

1185
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:19.119
<v Speaker 2>That's why everyone said the same thing about McConnell all

1186
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 2>these years.

1187
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>See, McConnell had had the body and the work ethic.

1188
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:27.119
<v Speaker 3>And by the body, I mean he was big enough,

1189
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 3>strong enough, physical enough, tall enough, and then the work

1190
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 3>ethic to do whatever it takes for his Tiger Campbell.

1191
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.239
<v Speaker 3>The guys that size aren't in the NBA unless they're

1192
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:42.000
<v Speaker 3>extraordinarily talented, which he was very talented, but not extraordinarily talented.

1193
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we gotta go, we do gotta go. Well, we

1194
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:48.239
<v Speaker 2>got a minute. Okay, No, thanks great for joining us.

1195
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Thanks thanks coming out here.

1196
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's fun. I still got to buy your beer,

1197
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:53.920
<v Speaker 3>So if you want to stick around, I'll buy your beer.

1198
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I want to buy you a beer. I don't to

1199
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:56.320
<v Speaker 3>buy your beer.

1200
00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:57.800
<v Speaker 4>We'll have fun.

1201
00:52:58.280 --> 00:52:59.800
<v Speaker 3>He's got to go do some other stuff. He's got

1202
00:52:59.920 --> 00:53:01.760
<v Speaker 3>to work, to do I do? You got to let

1203
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.000
<v Speaker 3>me buy you a beer? All right, it's fun that

1204
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Soul sports. We're going to be back here before the

1205
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:09.239
<v Speaker 3>super Bowl that Thursday before the super Bowl. To go

1206
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:11.119
<v Speaker 3>through that week with these guys, it's been a lot

1207
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:14.039
<v Speaker 3>of fun to be here. Yeah, and we'll be back. Thanks,

1208
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 3>all right, thanks for being here.
